From va57 at law.georgetown.edu  Sat Oct  2 21:34:56 2010
From: va57 at law.georgetown.edu (Vikram Agarwal)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 17:34:56 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam
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Message-ID: <84C7DE89EC13B74E90BC22E82A3DA17E969E4E@law-be2.law.georgetown.edu>

Has anyone taken the Virginia bar or the Maryland bar and requested and
received accommodations allowing the use of Jaws (or equivalent screen
reader) and extra time?  If so, I would greatly appreciate an
opportunity to speak with you to hear your experiences and advice.
Vikram
Va57 at law.georgetown.edu

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   1. Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California	Bar
      exam or theMPRE? (Scott C. LaBarre)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:50:56 -0600
From: "Scott C. LaBarre" <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the
	California	Bar exam or theMPRE?
Message-ID: <2950FAE799BD41ECBDBC2F4225EB56E5 at labarre>
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Please read the below.
Thanks,
Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.
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To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List" 
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California Bar exam or

theMPRE?


> Disability Rights Advocates would like to speak with individuals who
are
> planning to take the California Bar exam or the Multistate
Professional
> Responsibility Exam (MPRE) in California during 2011 and who use
screen
> access technology (JAWS, ZoomText, or other screen reading or screen
> magnification programs) as their primary method of reading in
employment
> or law school settings. If you are in this situation, please contact
> Karla Gilbride at 510-665-8644 or kgilbride at dralegal.org.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
>
> Karla Gilbride
> Staff Attorney
> Disability Rights Advocates
> 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
> Berkeley, California  94704-1204
>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sun Oct  3 16:01:41 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 12:01:41 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: [Iabs-talk] Streaming of Illinois Convention 10/8
	-10/10
Message-ID: <13b97b.33a9742a.39da02e5@aol.com>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: pattichang at att.net
Reply-to: iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
To:  il-talk at nfbnet.org, iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: 10/3/2010 11:59:31 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Iabs-talk] Streaming of Ilinois Convention  10/8 -10/10


The National Federation of the Blind of Illinois will be  streaming our 
convention next weekend.  First and formost, we will  stream our banquet on 
Saturday night beginning 7:00 central time.   Dr. Maurer is our keynote 
speaker.  We will also stream our general  sessions Friday night (including 
the popular IABS Idol, Saturday morning,  Saturday afternoon and Sunday 
morning.

The link is:   http://gamebird.ehhh.us:8000/nfbi.m3u

Please mark it as a favorite now  or save this e-mail.  We are very excited 
to do this and want as many  to join us as  possible.




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From pattichang at att.net  Sun Oct  3 16:59:19 2010
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:59:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] IL convention streaming and agenda for 10/8 to 10/10
Message-ID: <CB5EB1AEE6364E1C9858206059D65235@D3J75Z91>

Re:  IL convention streaming and agenda for 10/8 to 10/10

The National Federation of the Blind of Illinois will be streaming our
convention next weekend.  First and formost, we will stream our banquet on
Saturday night beginning 7:00 central time.  Dr. Maurer is our keynote
speaker.  We will also stream our general sessions Friday night (including
the popular IABS Idol, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon and Sunday
morning.  Our convention agenda is also attached.

The link for streaming is:  http://gamebird.ehhh.us:8000/nfbi.m3u

Please mark it as a favorite now or save this e-mail.  We are very excited
to do this and want as many to join us as possible.



To sponsor me in the race for independence which raises funds for the 
Imagination Fund affiliated with the NFB Jernigan Institute, you can go to 
www.raceforindependence.org.  Help us build innovative programs and products 
to gain true independence.    For more information on NFB, the Jernigan 
Institute and the Imagination Fund, go to www.nfb.org.


P.S.  National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at 
www.twitter.com/nfbi.
We also have a facebook page.  Just search for our full name.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
pattichang at att.net
www.nfbofillinois.org 
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From taiablas at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 04:26:58 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:26:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
Message-ID: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>

Listers,

Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through Bookshare's
proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
materials.

Thanks.

Tai' 
 

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database 5500 (20101003) __________

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 13:08:25 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:08:25 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>

I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I bought
it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare?  I'd
like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare

Listers,

Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible 
published in
2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
Bookshare's
proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be 
available for
download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
materials.

Thanks.

Tai' 
 

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From taiablas at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 15:00:05 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:00:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
	<62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
Message-ID: <4A2B80F0-A08A-470A-8EC0-04698A09D4A4@gmail.com>

How did you get it as a pdf? Would you share it with me?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I bought
> it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare?  I'd
> like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible 
> published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be 
> available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tai' 
> 
> 
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> virus signature
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> 
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> 
> http://www.eset.com
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> 
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From carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 23:36:45 2010
From: carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com (Kate Carroll)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:36:45 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List-ers,

I know this question has probably come up in previous discussions, so
forgive me for resurrecting it.

Can anyone tell me definitely if publishing companies are allowed to require
people to buy new versions of books before providing accessible e-files?

I am a law student who needs books from Aspen and West publishing.

Thanks, and my apologies again for what I am sure is bringing up a belabored
issue.

-- 
Kathryn CARROLL
St. John's University College of Law 2013
631-521-3018

From dricken at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 08:39:05 2010
From: dricken at gmail.com (Kendrick Kennedy)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 03:39:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+4ZpoUs6KLUi+hUaqtWs4RYw8anw4a-5MvWoO@mail.gmail.com>

Kate,

West Publishing is requiring students to purchase new books in order
to release an accessible file. Aspen did not require me to purchase
new books.

I do not have a problem with purchasing a new book but I'm in my last
year of law school and West just out of the blue states students have
to purchase new books. After, I've purchased used books to minimize
cost as required by Rehab. Services.

Kendrick R. Kennedy, BSBA

Juris Doctor Candidate, 2011
The University of Mississippi,
School of Law

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677


From awilusa at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  5 11:58:01 2010
From: awilusa at yahoo.com (Girmai Kahsai)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 06:58:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
References: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2FAD904D6C6F44EAA31E314BE7D2E80D@HP65761938311>

Yes, publishers such asAspen and Westlaw require the purchase of a book in 
print to provide an electronic version. When i was law student until 2009, i 
was required to present the receipt of a print book from Aspen or Westlaw 
through the disability/student services. once the publishers get the 
purchase receipt they send the electronic version either by email or cd to 
the student services. it is wise to request to electronic version to be in 
text format to make accessible using braille note takers.
regards, Girmai Kahsai
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers


> Hi List-ers,
>
> I know this question has probably come up in previous discussions, so
> forgive me for resurrecting it.
>
> Can anyone tell me definitely if publishing companies are allowed to 
> require
> people to buy new versions of books before providing accessible e-files?
>
> I am a law student who needs books from Aspen and West publishing.
>
> Thanks, and my apologies again for what I am sure is bringing up a 
> belabored
> issue.
>
> -- 
> Kathryn CARROLL
> St. John's University College of Law 2013
> 631-521-3018
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct  7 22:22:35 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:22:35 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [mamas_jobs] Part Time Admin/Paralegal - Ref#40950470
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B69D4E1EF@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



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Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:45 PM
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Subject: [mamas_jobs] Part Time Admin/Paralegal - Ref#40950470

Anonymous posted:

Evolution Legal Group is looking for a senior administrative assistant/junior paralegal who is interested in working 20 hours per week from home. The work involves managing the entire end to end process that we have developed for the hiring and screening of attorney candidates in multiple cities throughout the United States.  An understanding or familiarity with contract law would be helpful in evaluating candidates.  Please contact Gregg at evolutionlegalgroup.com if you are interested and provide a current resume.


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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct  7 22:39:36 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:39:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: WTKC10GM552530/D -- EEO Manager
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B69D4E1F6@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



-----Original Message-----
From: CMPDL's Disability Discussion Docket (3D) [mailto:CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG] On Behalf Of Copeland, Anthony T SPD
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:38 PM
To: CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG
Subject: FW: WTKC10GM552530/D -- EEO Manager
Importance: High

Attached is the job announcement for a EEO Manager for the San Francisco Division of the U.S. Corps of Engineers.  The position is posted for application on http://www.USAJOBS.GOV. The position is a GS-12 and it is located in downtown San Francisco.

Please either consider this opportunity or distribute the announcement widely through your outreach and recruitment channels.  The application period for the position ends on 18-OCT-2010. If you or any of the candidates have questions, please contact me.  My contact information is below.  

Also, in the near future there will be an announcement for a EEO Specialist in the San Francisco District Office.

Thanks  ---Tony--



Anthony T. Copeland
EEO Manager and Advisor - SPD
USACE Headquarters - CEEO
Tele: 415-503-6636
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Oct  8 16:05:46 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:05:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: USDA Office of Ethics Vacancy Announcement
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B69D4E32D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: USDA Office of Ethics Vacancy Announcement

Please share and direct any interested party to the appropriate links.


USDA is recruiting for an Ethics Program Specialist.

The announcement is at the following link.  There are two announcements;  one for non status candidates:  http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=91309946&JobTitle=Program+Specialist+(Ethics)&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&jbf574=AGDA&vw=b&re=134&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&caller=advanced.aspx&AVSDM=2010-10-07+16%3a04%3a00

And one for Merit Promotion/applicants with non-competitive eligibility:  http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=91309944&JobTitle=Program+Specialist+(Ethics)&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&jbf574=AGDA&vw=b&re=134&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&caller=advanced.aspx&AVSDM=2010-10-07+16%3a04%3a00



-------------------------
Akinyemi Banjo/FDWC
Policy Advisor
U.S. Department of Labor
Office of Disability Employment Policy
200 Constitution Ave., NW; S-1011
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202-693-7919
Web: http://www.dol.gov/odep/



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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Oct  8 23:47:55 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:47:55 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: [il-talk] info for NFBI streaming
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Subj: [il-talk] info for NFBI streaming




Streaming correction for this weekend's  NFB of Illiinois  convention:
http://67.212.189.10:8842/nfbi.m3u

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Listen  to:   LIFE   THE  UNIVERSE  &
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:16:30 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:16:30 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us><62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
	<4A2B80F0-A08A-470A-8EC0-04698A09D4A4@gmail.com>
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Hello All,

>From what I understand when registering for Bookshare.org, they have already 
certified that their users are blind and covered by the necessary copyright 
fair share exemptions, and that is why they are in operation.  I also think 
that their download files are linked to their licenses, like the one that I 
had to load onto my Victor Reader Stream to listen to the downloadable 
files.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare


> How did you get it as a pdf? Would you share it with me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I 
>> bought
>> it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare? 
>> I'd
>> like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their 
>> sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
>> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible
>> published in
>> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through
>> Bookshare's
>> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be
>> available for
>> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
>> materials.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tai'
>>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:18:18 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:18:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <A7A233EDC4D446B1B7FC461080A2A73B@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

Thank you.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare


> Listers,
>
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai'
>
>
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> signature
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:21:02 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:21:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam
References: <mailman.49.1285952408.11855.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<84C7DE89EC13B74E90BC22E82A3DA17E969E4E@law-be2.law.georgetown.edu>
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Vikram,

Aren't those states already being taken to court for not allowing users to 
use JAWS?

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vikram Agarwal" <va57 at law.georgetown.edu>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam


> Has anyone taken the Virginia bar or the Maryland bar and requested and
> received accommodations allowing the use of Jaws (or equivalent screen
> reader) and extra time?  If so, I would greatly appreciate an
> opportunity to speak with you to hear your experiences and advice.
> Vikram
> Va57 at law.georgetown.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org
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>   1. Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California Bar
>      exam or theMPRE? (Scott C. LaBarre)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:50:56 -0600
> From: "Scott C. LaBarre" <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the
> California Bar exam or theMPRE?
> Message-ID: <2950FAE799BD41ECBDBC2F4225EB56E5 at labarre>
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>
> Please read the below.
> Thanks,
> Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karla Gilbride" <kgilbride at dralegal.org>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
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> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California Bar exam or
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> theMPRE?
>
>
>> Disability Rights Advocates would like to speak with individuals who
> are
>> planning to take the California Bar exam or the Multistate
> Professional
>> Responsibility Exam (MPRE) in California during 2011 and who use
> screen
>> access technology (JAWS, ZoomText, or other screen reading or screen
>> magnification programs) as their primary method of reading in
> employment
>> or law school settings. If you are in this situation, please contact
>> Karla Gilbride at 510-665-8644 or kgilbride at dralegal.org.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
>>
>>
>> Karla Gilbride
>> Staff Attorney
>> Disability Rights Advocates
>> 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
>> Berkeley, California  94704-1204
>>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:29:37 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:29:37 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
References: <auto-000171335945@mailfront1.g2host.com><A86C58580BA44841A32B9A81FF2B432A@TMLDELLLAPTOP1><1EC2D416-F623-4BBF-A60E-CF858F91B7A4@zufelt.ca>
	<1FC02694-441D-469D-BF18-C14B74C69991@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BD84524243BD4D3E89E72F95268055EC@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

George,

How is a resolution developed?I would like to submit this issue for 
consideration by NFB before the problem morphs into something even less 
friendly to the blind, such as manipulation of images and other things that 
are being developed?

Thanks,
Tom Ladis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Purpose of List


> Basically,
> a resolution must be made regarding CAPTCHAs.
> Then, it goes to the resolution board at general convention, and they do a 
> recommending vote.
> Then its presented to the general session, and stated weather "board 
> reccommends pass".
> And it goes to a full NFB-membership up or down vote.
> If aprooved, that becomes policy.
>
> Then the NFB can do as it sees fit within that policy.
>
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 4:19 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>
>> I'm not a member of NFB and I'm unfamiliar with practices and procedure. 
>> When NFB becomes involved in such actions does it first determine if 
>> members are supportive, and how does it so do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Everett Zufelt
>> http://zufelt.ca
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter
>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>
>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-09-12, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.  I am not a lawyer yet, but think that someone who is and has the 
>>> energy to file actions against a few of the largest offenders, such as 
>>> LinkedIn, Home Depot, Google(Gmail), CraigsList, and others, would make 
>>> a huge difference for the blind community.  I will talk with Judge 
>>> Pomaro and Equip For Equality here in Chicago about the subject.
>>>
>>> We can discuss the technical details in the blind programmers or blind 
>>> webbers groups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would we be able to file a federal action since these companies are 
>>> global? If necessary, we can find brick and mortars to approach about 
>>> changing their system, and that may cause change.
>>>
>>> Also, would NFB be willing to become involved?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Ladis
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
>>>
>>>
>>>> A reminder to everybody -- this is the Blind Law list.  It is not for 
>>>> the discussion of the merits, or lack thereof for CAPTCHA's, for 
>>>> debating the Blind Driver Challenge etc.  Please take those topics 
>>>> elsewhere and stick to the law and blindness.
>>>>
>>>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>
>>>>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Sat Oct  9 15:54:38 2010
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 11:54:38 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
In-Reply-To: <BD84524243BD4D3E89E72F95268055EC@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
References: <auto-000171335945@mailfront1.g2host.com>
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Message-ID: <502EAD1E-A0E5-4399-B7D0-24E687C00AE7@mac.com>

Hi Tom:
If you wish to take it to the NFB, you have to submit the written resolution to Jessy Hartle for consideration.

Jorge


On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:

> George,
> 
> How is a resolution developed?I would like to submit this issue for consideration by NFB before the problem morphs into something even less friendly to the blind, such as manipulation of images and other things that are being developed?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Ladis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
> 
> 
>> Basically,
>> a resolution must be made regarding CAPTCHAs.
>> Then, it goes to the resolution board at general convention, and they do a recommending vote.
>> Then its presented to the general session, and stated weather "board reccommends pass".
>> And it goes to a full NFB-membership up or down vote.
>> If aprooved, that becomes policy.
>> 
>> Then the NFB can do as it sees fit within that policy.
>> 
>> 
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 4:19 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not a member of NFB and I'm unfamiliar with practices and procedure. When NFB becomes involved in such actions does it first determine if members are supportive, and how does it so do?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Everett Zufelt
>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter
>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010-09-12, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello.  I am not a lawyer yet, but think that someone who is and has the energy to file actions against a few of the largest offenders, such as LinkedIn, Home Depot, Google(Gmail), CraigsList, and others, would make a huge difference for the blind community.  I will talk with Judge Pomaro and Equip For Equality here in Chicago about the subject.
>>>> 
>>>> We can discuss the technical details in the blind programmers or blind webbers groups.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Would we be able to file a federal action since these companies are global? If necessary, we can find brick and mortars to approach about changing their system, and that may cause change.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, would NFB be willing to become involved?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Ladis
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:02 PM
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A reminder to everybody -- this is the Blind Law list.  It is not for the discussion of the merits, or lack thereof for CAPTCHA's, for debating the Blind Driver Challenge etc.  Please take those topics elsewhere and stick to the law and blindness.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>                      David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Mon Oct 11 16:33:26 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:33:26 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Law school in Canada and how it all works.
Message-ID: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there.

I was recently speaking with someone who is wanting to try and get into Law 
school and was mentioning that here in Canada we have one year of articling. 
I was wondering if that is in our third year or if that is after the three 
years of Law school? Have a great day and for the Canadian listers Happy 
thanksgiving and Americans happy Columbus day.

Blaine 

From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Oct 11 16:40:49 2010
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire.)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:40:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] {Disarmed} Emailing: Google is testing cars that drive
	themselves - CNN.com.htm
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Google is testing cars that drive themselves
     By Samuel Axon, Mashable
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The vehicles have been tested on 140,000 miles of California road, from Silicon Valley to Santa Monica.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  a.. Google has developed cars that drive themselves automatically in traffic 
  b.. Only one accident has occurred during testing so far and it was human error 
  c.. Google believes that technology could half the number of automobile-related deaths 
  d.. Optimistic projections put this technology at least eight years away from market
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(Mashable) -- Google announced Sunday that it has developed cars that drive themselves automatically in traffic, and that it has been testing them on the streets of California for months. It might seem like an unusual project for Google, but it could actually have big benefits.

We're not just talking about cars running Google Android. This is the stuff of science fiction. The only accident that has occurred so far: One of the cars was rear-ended by a driver at a stop light. Human error!

The vehicles have been tested on 140,000 miles of California road, from Silicon Valley to Santa Monica. 

Each car is manned during the tests. One person sits in the driver's seat, ready to take control of the vehicle instantly by grabbing the wheel or touch the brake should something go wrong with the system. The person in the passenger's seat is an engineer who monitors the software operations on a computer.

Google (Google) hired engineers who previously participated in competitions and races involving automated cars -- important turning points in the development of the technology, which has been coming into its own since around 2005 according to The New York Times.

If your first concern is one of safety, Google would argue that you're going about it all wrong. 

Safety is one of the the project's purposes. Google believes that the technology could nearly half the number of automobile-related deaths because computers are supposedly better at driving than humans in the right circumstances.

There are other hypothetical pluses, too. The vehicles' instant reaction time and 360-degree awareness would allow them to drive closer together on the highway than humans can, reducing traffic congestion. They could be more careful when operating the gas, reducing fuel consumption.

But the biggest benefit for Google would be the hour or so of daily commute time the car owner would save. Instead of driving, he or she could either be productive or entertained in the vehicle, doing work on a wireless Internet (Internet) connection or watching television. 

Google doesn't say it explicitly, but TechCrunch was quick to note that this time could be spent using Google products and absorbing Google-run advertising.

The most optimistic projections put this technology at least eight years away from market, though. Legal hassles are among the myriad problems; all of the current traffic laws assume that a human driver is present in the vehicle.

Do you think this technology will eventually be deployed, or is it just a pipe dream for Sergei and Larry? Let us know in the comments.

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From lists at zufelt.ca  Mon Oct 11 16:42:41 2010
From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:42:41 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Law school in Canada and how it all works.
In-Reply-To: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <F59E1BF1-6D94-4EB8-9DB5-ADEB98544ED7@zufelt.ca>

Articling requirements in Canada vary from one province to the next, generally it is roughly one year and is begun after completing the 3 year LL.B. degree from a recognized Canadian law school.  Depending on province you will also be taking bar courses and completing bar exams during the articling period.  If you article with a high profile firm they may pay you during your bar courses and pay for the bar exams.


HTH,
Everett Zufelt
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On 2010-10-11, at 12:33 PM, Blaine Deutscher wrote:

> Hello there.
> 
> I was recently speaking with someone who is wanting to try and get into Law 
> school and was mentioning that here in Canada we have one year of articling. 
> I was wondering if that is in our third year or if that is after the three 
> years of Law school? Have a great day and for the Canadian listers Happy 
> thanksgiving and Americans happy Columbus day.
> 
> Blaine 
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From LBlake at nfb.org  Tue Oct 12 16:38:42 2010
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:38:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille
Message-ID: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>

Dear List Members:
 
The Jacobus tenBroek Library has received a request from the Education
Administration Officer, of the South African National Council for the
Blind, for information on Braille policy or legislation in the United
States, Canada, and the UK.  Currently, South Africa does not have any
official policy or legislation relating to Braille.
 
The library staff will forward your responses.  Thank you for your
input.
 
Lou Ann Blake, J.D.
HAVA Project Manager and Law Symposium Coordinator
Jacobus tenBroek Library
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
    at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230
Telephone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2221
Fax: (410) 659-5129
E-mail: lblake at nfb.org <mailto:lblake at nfb.org> 
Web site: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfb.org/> 
 

Text the word BLIND to 85944 to donate $10 to the NFB Imagination Fund
via your phone bill.

 

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Wed Oct 13 01:52:59 2010
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:52:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille
In-Reply-To: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>
References: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>
Message-ID: <20101013015259.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Lou-Ann: 
As I recall, the federal Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) has some language concerning Braille literacy.  Also, there are Braille bills that the NFB got passed in about thirty states, including New York. 
Feel free to contact me off-list or by phone, and I'll help you track down the New York legislation. 
Ray Wayne 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake, Lou Ann" <LBlake at nfb.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tuesday, Oct 12, 2010 11:40:40
Subject: [bllaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille

>
>
> Dear List Members:
>  
> The Jacobus tenBroek Library has received a request from the Education
> Administration Officer, of the South African National Council for the
> Blind, for information on Braille policy or legislation in the United
> States, Canada, and the UK.  Currently, South Africa does not have any
> official policy or legislation relating to Braille.
>  
> The library staff will forward your responses.  Thank you for your
> input.
>  
> Lou Ann Blake, J.D.
> HAVA Project Manager and Law Symposium Coordinator
> Jacobus tenBroek Library
> Jernigan Institute
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
> 200 East Wells Street
>     at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, MD 21230
> Telephone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2221
> Fax: (410) 659-5129
> E-mail: lblake at nfb.org <mailto:lblake at nfb.org> 
> Web site: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfb.org/> 
>  
> 
> Text the word BLIND to 85944 to donate $10 to the NFB Imagination Fund
> via your phone bill.
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
> bllaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 14 17:01:31 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:01:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Special Report: Diversity, National Law Journal,
	October 11 2010
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6BF80E43@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



Link:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473139435&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=National%20Law%20Journal&pt=NLJ.com-%20Daily%20Headlines&cn=20101011NLJ&kw=Special%20Report%3A%20Diversity&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1

Text:

Special Report: Diversity

A focus on attorneys with disabilities who are making headway in the profession.
October 11, 2010
Opportunities for disabled attorneys are increasing both through advances in technology and changing attitudes toward the rights and abilities of those with handicaps. In this special report, The National Law Journal profiles disabled attorneys forging successful careers at large law firms, on the bench, as solo practitioners and at one of the nation's most prestigious law schools.

Lawyers with disabilities are making headway<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089244>
When it comes to the number of attorneys and aspiring attorneys with disabilities, the picture is far from clear because few groups collect detailed information on disabled attorneys. Advocates say that is one reason why efforts to increase their presence throughout the profession have lagged behind the parallel pushes to boost the number of women and minorities. Still, doors are opening more and more for disabled attorneys.
>From Supreme Court clerk to appellate advocate<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089386>
Isaac Lidsky has come close to achieving a paperless law office. That's because Lidsky, an associate in the New York office of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, is blind, and paper is not of much use to him. Almost all the documents he deals with are reformatted by a team of support staff for special software that reads the documents aloud to Lidsky.
Wisconsin judge overcomes hearing impairment
<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473099157>Richard Brown has relied on technology and perseverance to build a prestigious legal career despite almost complete deafness. After stints as an assistant district attorney and litigator at a private law firm in Racine, Wis., Brown was elected to the Wisconsin Court of Appeals in 1978 and now serves as chief judge.
An energetic advocate for disabled law students<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089733>
Elizabeth Kolbe, a Stanford 2L with a spinal cord injury, hopes that opportunities for law students with disabilities will increase with improved advocacy. She's the vice president of the National Association of Law Students With Disabilities, a resource for disabled law students seeking tips on academic accommodations and careers.
Going solo is the best fit for some disabled lawyers<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089818>
Disabled lawyers across the country say hanging out a shingle helps them manage their physical needs and limitations. Those who receive Social Security disability benefits can maximize income without exceeding government-benefit restrictions and even provide low-cost or free legal help to disabled and low-income clients.



From jsorozco at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 22:46:01 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:46:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
Message-ID: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>

Hello,

I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists.  I
didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There are
some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing



From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Fri Oct 15 02:10:15 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:10:15 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
Message-ID: <02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there everyone. I was shocked when I saw this subject line as a friend 
innvighted me to the "LinkedIn" page and an email was sent to me.  I too 
didn't pay too much attention to it as it seemd for professionals.  Am I 
correct in assuming that it is a "social network" similar to Facebook and 
Twitter?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


Hello,

I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists.  I
didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There are
some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing


_______________________________________________
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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Fri Oct 15 04:29:46 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:29:46 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] request e-mails
Message-ID: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there.

I was wondering why I'm getting e-mails to be unsubscribed from this list? I 
haven't sent any requests in so if someone would like me off this list could 
you please e-mail me as to why that would be greatly appreciated.

Blaine 

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 09:27:08 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:27:08 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
	<02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <D777A1DCA5E9409B811DFDA90B8721F5@spike>

yes, and as it is geared for professionals it doesn't have all the cutesy 
features that Facebook or Myspace has.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello there everyone. I was shocked when I saw this subject line as a 
> friend
> innvighted me to the "LinkedIn" page and an email was sent to me.  I too
> didn't pay too much attention to it as it seemd for professionals.  Am I
> correct in assuming that it is a "social network" similar to Facebook and
> Twitter?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindlaw:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.m.deutscher%40sasktel.net
>
>
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> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 09:04:30 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:04:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
Message-ID: <44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>

I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net 


From dandrews at visi.com  Fri Oct 15 09:49:05 2010
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 04:49:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] request e-mails
In-Reply-To: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <auto-000176668346@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Occasionally the unsubscribe messages are generated by the system -- 
this is caused by people not cleaning out all the footer info at the 
bottom of messages they reply to.  This info includes personal 
options page links that sometimes get triggered.  Just ignore the 
messages and they will expire.

David Andrews, List Owner.

At 11:29 PM 10/14/2010, you wrote:
>Hello there.
>
>I was wondering why I'm getting e-mails to be unsubscribed from this list? I
>haven't sent any requests in so if someone would like me off this list could
>you please e-mail me as to why that would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Blaine

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 13:25:48 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:25:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
	<44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
Message-ID: <3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>

Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn

I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of 
these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I 
wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with 
it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the 
JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
> 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
an%40sbcglobal.net 



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Oct 15 14:00:47 2010
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:00:47 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
	<3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
Message-ID: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>

Hello Joe and Chuck -
Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get linked in to 
work for you?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
> these lists.
>> I
>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
> wish I had on
>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
> it?  There
>> are
>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
> JAWS cursor.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
> an%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
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> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 15:06:40 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:06:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
	<3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
	<35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <D170D5367D9C4A4EAC1DD81B7528C182@Rufus>

Hi Ross,

It might be easier if you explained what part of the website is giving you
trouble.  I initially had some issues with adding people to my network.
JAWS would not record my input into the edit fields.  For example, for
people with whom I'd worked with at a previous company, JAWS would not
record my position title and years I worked there, but I only experienced
this the first couple times.  I'd neglected to read the error message that
was popping up at the top of the page.  At any rate, I now seem to have a
handle on it.  It's a lot more manageable than the Facebook account I never
check.

Best,

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Doerr [mailto:rumpole at roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:01 AM
To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn

Hello Joe and Chuck -
Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get 
linked in to 
work for you?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
> these lists.
>> I
>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
> wish I had on
>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
> it?  There
>> are
>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
> JAWS cursor.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
> an%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 16 03:29:01 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:29:01 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike><3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
	<35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <03AB4DF157534F18B6775EE40F2CB45B@spike>

At first when I tried to use it a couple of years ago I found completing the 
profile a bit confusing and ended up doing it in installments as the 
instructions of what is contained in it were not very clear. Otherwise, I 
haven't had any difficulties using it. I use it for postings on various 
groups that I am a member of and have signed to receive regular email 
updates about what those who I'm linked with are doing. What specific 
problems are you having with it?
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello Joe and Chuck -
> Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get linked in to 
> work for you?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their 
>> sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
>> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>>
>> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
>> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
>> these lists.
>>> I
>>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
>> wish I had on
>>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
>> it?  There
>>> are
>>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
>> JAWS cursor.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>> their sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> blindlaw:
>>>
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
>> an%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From dtomblin at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 05:20:24 2010
From: dtomblin at hotmail.com (Darren Tomblin)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:20:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <BLU139-DS10A967B6AB9B773D70C673D45A0@phx.gbl>

Hi, just wondering if you have any idea when the books will be in bookshare. 
I'm taking the lsat in december and was wanting to use these books. thanks

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:26 AM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare

> Listers,
>
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai'
>
>
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Oct 19 00:14:58 2010
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:14:58 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?
Message-ID: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>

Hello Everyone:

In colorado, where may I find the ballot measures for 2010?  I want to 
download and read them ahead of time before going out to vote.

I could not think of a better list to pose the question so I thought a list 
for lawyers would be best; much thanks!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 19 10:14:34 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 03:14:34 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?
In-Reply-To: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>
References: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>
Message-ID: <209E3F50D595474180BD5D8442812C1C@spike>

For an official list try your secretary of state's web site. Otherwise, 
doing a search under "November 2010 Colorado Ballot Initiatives" turned up 
many possible sites where you can find this information.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?


> Hello Everyone:
>
> In colorado, where may I find the ballot measures for 2010?  I want to 
> download and read them ahead of time before going out to vote.
>
> I could not think of a better list to pose the question so I thought a 
> list for lawyers would be best; much thanks!!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 20 19:44:35 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:44:35 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of
 Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations, DOJ,
 October 20 2010
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6C0ABF02@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



Link:
http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010/anprm_nov-jan_2010.htm

Text:
Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations

The Department of Justice has scheduled three public hearings on four Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRMs)<anprm2010.htm>, which seek public comment on the possibility of revising the ADA regulations to address accessible web information and services, movie captioning and video description, accessibility of Next Generation 9-1-1, and accessible equipment and furniture. The ANPRMs were published in the Federal Register on July 26, 2010, and the comment period for them closes on January 24, 2011.

The public hearings are scheduled for the following dates and locations:

*       November 18, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., CST, at
Access Living, 115 West Chicago Avenue, Chicago, IL 60654.
*       December 16, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., EST, at
the United States Access Board, 1331 F Street, NW, Washington, DC 20004.
*       January 2011 in San Francisco, CA, at a date and location to be announced in the near future on the ADA Home Page at www.ada.gov<http://www.ada.gov>.

For additional information, including the procedures for registering to comment at the hearings and for requesting special accommodations, click on the link below for the advance text of the Department's Notice of Public Hearings.

Hearing Notice: Notice of Public Hearings on ANPRMs<public_hearing_anprm_2010.htm>


From khagen12 at q.com  Wed Oct 20 22:14:40 2010
From: khagen12 at q.com (kathleen hagen)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:14:40 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of
	Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing
	Regulations, DOJ, October 20 2010
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6C0ABF02@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1494FD3FFD0AF544735745FC95C0@phx.gbl>

Thank you Noel for forwarding on this information.
Kathleen Hagen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:44 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of 
Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations, DOJ, October 
20 2010


>
>
> Link:
> http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010/anprm_nov-jan_2010.htm
>
> Text:
> Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking to 
> Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations
>
> The Department of Justice has scheduled three public hearings on four 
> Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRMs)<anprm2010.htm>, which seek 
> public comment on the possibility of revising the ADA regulations to 
> address accessible web information and services, movie captioning and 
> video description, accessibility of Next Generation 9-1-1, and accessible 
> equipment and furniture. The ANPRMs were published in the Federal Register 
> on July 26, 2010, and the comment period for them closes on January 24, 
> 2011.
>
> The public hearings are scheduled for the following dates and locations:
>
> *       November 18, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., CST, at
> Access Living, 115 West Chicago Avenue, Chicago, IL 60654.
> *       December 16, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., EST, at
> the United States Access Board, 1331 F Street, NW, Washington, DC 20004.
> *       January 2011 in San Francisco, CA, at a date and location to be 
> announced in the near future on the ADA Home Page at 
> www.ada.gov<http://www.ada.gov>.
>
> For additional information, including the procedures for registering to 
> comment at the hearings and for requesting special accommodations, click 
> on the link below for the advance text of the Department's Notice of 
> Public Hearings.
>
> Hearing Notice: Notice of Public Hearings on 
> ANPRMs<public_hearing_anprm_2010.htm>
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 00:16:49 2010
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:16:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [nabs-l] Braille Notetaker Survey
Message-ID: <890EF4C8ADA74551A9F90A4A1D866EF6@hometwxakonvzn>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'Discussion list for NABS,National Alliance of Blind Students.'" 
<nabs at acb.org>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" 
<nfbcs at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>; 
<ATCNFB at yahoogroups.com>; <members at nfb-texas.org>; 
<tabs_students at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Notetaker Survey


> Hello,
>
> Sorry if this has already made the rounds, but the National Braille Press,
> in partnership with Bentley University, is conducting a survey about user
> preferences for Braille notetakers.  My sense is this research and
> development for the Android device they're putting together.  Please fill 
> it
> out.  It only takes about 5 minutes and will provide feedback to people 
> who
> are dedicated to changing the field in the expensive notetaker field.
>
> https://bentley.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3fs0pdBxChLuMSg
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From JChwalow at nfb.org  Mon Oct 25 16:31:34 2010
From: JChwalow at nfb.org (Chwalow,
	Judith)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:31:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind academics and Thomson Reuters
Message-ID: <auto-000178079968@mailfront1.g2host.com>

From: William Page [mailto:page at scipol.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 7:19 AM
To: Maurer, Patricia
Subject: Blind academics and Thomson Reuters

As always, academics need to be published in academic journals.
Increasingly, journals are insisting articles are submitted online. 
The market leader is ScholarOne Manuscript, a division of Thomson 
Reuters and based in the US. Its websites have many buttons which are 
graphics with no hidden text beneath them; I believe no screen reader 
can read them. This limits the ability of blind academics to submit 
articles to at least this major player. This is unhelpful to their 
career development!

I know this because I am a blind publisher who signed up to use their 
service for our journals - and I cannot use it!

Thomson Reuters agree they should be doing something about this, but 
cannot see it being done for some time. Is there an association of 
blind academics who might add pressure to get this changed sooner 
rather than later? Below are my emails to Thomson Reuters about this; 
they are clearly not trying to be difficult, but say this would be an 
immense job for technical reasons.

You are welcome to forward this email to anyone you think appropriate.
Thanks for any help you can give.

Bill Page

--------------------------------------------
William Page
Beech Tree Publishing
- Science and Public Policy
- Research Evaluation
- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal 10 Watford Close, 
Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 
567497 Email page at scipol.co.uk Website www.scipol.co.uk (including 
links to journal abstracts and full texts on the Ingenta Connect site)

-----Original Message-----
From: tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com
[mailto:tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com]
Sent: 18 June 2010 18:58
To: page at scipol.co.uk
Cc: ryan.looney at thomsonreuters.com
Subject: RE: MC and screen readers


Dear Bill,

Thank you for your note explaining the hardship you're experience using
ScholarOne Manuscripts with Hal.  While I have heard that certain users
with screen readers had various minor troubles using the system, I
haven't become aware that the system was impossible to use until you
mentioned it below.  From my understanding of screen readers, they rely
heavily (if not solely) on "alt text" describing images and buttons to
aid in navigation.

I also appreciate your willingness to help prioritize changes in the
sites you work with.  However, in the case of ScholarOne Manuscripts,
the system is built in such a way that all sites rely on the same code
base to work; each site, rather than being a unique deployment of unique
code, is simply a branch of the main code for all sites.  Any changes we
make to one site will and must affect all.  Adding "alt text" to each
image throughout the site is a large undertaking, and is further
complicated by the fact that the sites can be customized to display
different images depending on workflow, configuration, and language
settings.

While I don't believe that we can expect any improvement in 2010, as our
resources are completely deployed on other projects, I will speak with
my supervisors here and at Thomson Reuters to evaluate this for the
future.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have further questions.

Best wishes,
Tiffany

.................................................................
Tiffany Coker
Director, Product Management
ScholarOne
Healthcare & Science

Thomson Reuters

Phone: 434.964.4027
Fax: 434.817.2039

tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com
thomsonreuters.com


-----Original Message-----
From: William Page [mailto:page at scipol.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:26 AM
To: Coker, Tiffany (Hlthcr&Science)
Cc: Looney, Ryan (Hlthcr&Science)
Subject: RE: MC and screen readers

Hello Tiffany
Around December, Ryan Looney kindly contacted you on my behalf. We had
signed up for two of the journals I publish to be on Manuscript Central.
It took me time to realize that I could not really use MC because I am
blind and use a screen reader (called Hal). Although David Thomas knew I
was blind when he did the demonstration, it did not become apparent
until much later that this would be a problem.

I appreciate your situation, of making all MC sites compliant will be an
immense undertaking. However, I am currently signed up to a service
which I cannot use! So I wonder if we can reach a compromise: might it
be possible to make just our two sites compliant? By which I mean, that
a competent screen reader can read?

If it helps: I am actively involved as an editor as well as the
publisher of one, Science and Public Policy, so this would be my
priority. If the other, Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal, had to
wait, I could survive because I am not actively involved in editing that
one, only in publishing it.

If there is anything I can do to help with this, please tell me.

With thanks for any help  you can give me,

Best wishes

Bill Page

--------------------------------------------
William Page
Beech Tree Publishing
- Science and Public Policy
- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal
10 Watford Close, Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK
Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 567497
Email page at scipol.co.uk
Website www.scipol.co.uk (including links to journal abstracts and full
texts on the Ingenta Connect site)




From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Oct 25 20:19:08 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:19:08 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: LSAT survey-please consider taking if you received
 accommodations
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:48 AM
To: CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG
Subject: LSAT survey-please consider taking if you received accommodations

Prof. Carrie Griffin Basas of the University of North Carolina School
of Law is conducting a brief online survey of LSAT (Law School
Admissions Test) test-takers with disabilities who received
accommodations on the exam.  Anyone who has taken the LSAT-whether or
not they ended up attending law school-and received an accommodation
for the LSAT is eligible to participate.  Participants are asked to
respond to the 5-10 minute survey before December 1, 2010.  Please
forward this information widely  to your respective networks.  The
results of the survey will be completely confidential and anonymous.
The data will assist Prof. Basas in understanding the potential impact
of accommodated LSAT tests on law school admissions.  If you have
questions or concerns about the survey, please direct them to Prof.
Basas, basas at email.unc.edu.  The survey is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/37ehvd4



Thank you,
Carrie

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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 26 16:23:35 2010
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
Message-ID: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      

From joramsey at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 16:38:31 2010
From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:38:31 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA7E27685A9444EB80F762AA350A6EF5@noneeb869fea9a>

Hi Mike:
I use Open Book's Freedom Import printer to read those documents and it
works pretty well.
Take care,
John 


"Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat
you with experience." ~ anonymous

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net  Tue Oct 26 16:42:30 2010
From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn Bonnette)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:42:30 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1E118DB6AA8744A08ECC118D30282A59@14bd0130080a469>

Mike,

I've had frequent experiences with this in federal work. I generally choose
the print option. Alternatively, you may save it in a Word file first and
try opening it with Kurzweil. I have had less experience with this, but
another on this list may also have used that method.

Best,

Cathryn Bonnette

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Oct 26 17:06:26 2010
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:06:26 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>

Mike. If the attachment works, I'm sending you the method I use. The guy who wrote it goes into more detail than you may want, but the process works.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:24 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Oct 26 20:54:52 2010
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Sexton, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:54:52 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>
Message-ID: <004301cb7550$0de02d20$29a08760$@net>

open it in kurzweil or open book if you have those programs!  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:06 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike. If the attachment works, I'm sending you the method I use. The guy who
wrote it goes into more detail than you may want, but the process works.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:24 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From steve.jacobson at visi.com  Tue Oct 26 21:21:18 2010
From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:21:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000022333647@mailback2.g2host.com>

Most of the OCR programs now support doing OCR from PDF to create text versions.  Kurzweil 1000 and Open Book both have this ability as I understand 
it, although you may have to print the document to a "virtual printer" which captures the output in a file that can be accessed directly for OCR.  Omnipage 
has a PDF Converter that comes with it as well.  In general, pasting a scanned document into Word will not solve your problem unless you have the version 
of Microsoft Office that includes some OCR capability.  

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT), Mike Gilmore wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an 
empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought 
of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and 
therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

>Thanks.

>Mike


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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 27 06:53:40 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:53:40 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>

This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The 
document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty 
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents 
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty 
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore 
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the 
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I 
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so 
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and 
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Wed Oct 27 11:52:14 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:52:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
Message-ID: <AE66C587A735493881133C832DA28DDD@Rufus>

ABBYY Finereader.  Don't be a conformist! (grin)

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:54 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The 
document can be read with either of those programs without much 
difficulty 
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. 
Sometimes, documents 
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
it's an empty 
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image 
and therefore 
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of 
paper if the 
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this 
problem? I 
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a 
Word document so 
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made 
secure and 
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From stiehm.law at juno.com  Wed Oct 27 12:35:00 2010
From: stiehm.law at juno.com (Patrick H Stiehm)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:35:00 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
Message-ID: <20101027.083500.400.0.stiehm.law@juno.com>

If you have Adobe Acrobat there is away to convert an image to a true
PDF, that JAWS should be able tp read.  I can't tell you how to do it but
Adobe customer support should be able to help.

Stiehm Law Office
Alexandria, Virginia
703-360-1089 (Voice)
703-935-8266 (Fax)

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Mike Gilmore
<m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com> writes:
> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
> be copied and pasted.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Wed Oct 27 13:52:17 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:52:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
Message-ID: <019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>

Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is 
purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price 
range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between the 
one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and 
convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that 
have the professional version.  Hope this helps.

Blaine
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From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Wed Oct 27 14:01:59 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:01:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 28 16:14:56 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:14:56 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] from law.com: Judge's Unusual Order Revives Law Firm
 Diversity Issue
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B78D7EFFB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202474038196&Judges_Unusual_Order_Revives_Law_Firm_Diversity_Issue

excerpt:

After 16 years of observing scores of litigation teams from his seat on the Southern District bench, Judge Harold Baer Jr. has strong views about what is lacking in many slaw firms: diversity

A stir recently erupted in the securities class action bar after Baer issued an order<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810order1.pdf> in a case against Gilda Activewear Inc., directing two of the largest firms in the field, Labaton Sucharow and Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, to "make every effort" to put at least one woman and one minority lawyer on the case<http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202472380122>. The ensuing press about the order caused Edward Labaton, a senior partner at his firm, to make a rare court appearance earlier this month to publicly state that his firm was committed to equal opportunity (See Labaton's letter<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810letter.pdf> to Baer).
In a follow up order last Friday<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810order2.pdf> in In re Gildan Activewear Inc. Securities Litigation, 08 cv 5048, Baer said his initial order "was not intended to be critical in any way" of how the two firms promote diversity or prosecute and staff a case. But he said the diversity considerations "were goals I would urge be met in similar cases that come before me."


From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 31 02:06:47 2010
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
Message-ID: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike


      

From jsorozco at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 02:32:39 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:32:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2D33AD318DB248E5867729991733138B@Rufus>

The only thing close to us here is the NFB National Center in Baltimore,
Independence Market.  Actually, I think the Columbia Lighthouse might carry
some of these items as well.

Joe

“Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all.”--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:07 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of 
anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering 
where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia 
purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells 
canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike


      
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From marshall at blindlawyers.org  Sun Oct 31 05:26:48 2010
From: marshall at blindlawyers.org (ScottMarshall)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:26:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>

Hi:
One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the DC area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not sure whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
~
On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike



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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 07:34:15 2010
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 02:34:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>
	<5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
Message-ID: <004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Sun Oct 31 07:51:09 2010
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 00:51:09 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945><5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
	<004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
Message-ID: <307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>

I use Kurzweil and select "virtual scanner" and the program OCR's it.  I
then save it as a Word doc to read or whatever.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:34 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Sun Oct 31 10:16:27 2010
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 03:16:27 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945><5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1><004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
	<307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>
Message-ID: <959EBA727F6046CEB6CE7FD26C895256@Blind>

Correction.  In Adobe, I select "virtual printer" from the print menu and it
sends the doc for OCR to my Kurzweil program which then allows me to save
the now recognizable doc.  Hope that is more helpful than my last attempt.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of James Weisberg
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:51 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I use Kurzweil and select "virtual scanner" and the program OCR's it.  I
then save it as a Word doc to read or whatever.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:34 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From taiablas at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 16:17:54 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:17:54 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>
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The independence market does have an actual store that you can visit at NFB hq in baltimore. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:26 AM, ScottMarshall <marshall at blindlawyers.org> wrote:

> Hi:
> One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the DC area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not sure whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
> ~
> On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sun Oct 31 22:09:50 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:09:50 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
Message-ID: <8b5.11e53305.39ff432e@aol.com>

The NFB Independence Market is open from 8-5 Mon-Fri for walk-ins as well  
as by appointment in certain circumstances.  In addition, you can purchase  
items from there via the internet by visiting _www.nfb.org_ 
(http://www.nfb.org)  or by phone by calling  410-659-9314.  My Agency has actually switched 
to the Independence Market  as our sole provider for Braille paper, 20/20 
pens, and many other items our  staff uses.  If you ask them to ship the 
item, it usually departs that same  day and arrives quickly.  My experience with 
other distributors such as the  Columbia Lighthouse and the Iowa Commission 
is that it takes about a week for  them to process the request and another 
week for it to arrive.
 
Good luck.
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2010 12:27:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
taiablas at gmail.com writes:

The  independence market does have an actual store that you can visit at 
NFB hq in  baltimore. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:26 AM,  ScottMarshall <marshall at blindlawyers.org> 
wrote:

> Hi:
>  One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia 
 Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I  
believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the 
DC  area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not 
sure  whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
> ~
> On Oct  30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:
> 
> Hi  everybody,
> 
> I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't  think of anywhere else 
to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where  those of you who reside 
in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is  there a store for the 
blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the  blind close by?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
>  
> 
> 
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From va57 at law.georgetown.edu  Sat Oct  2 21:34:56 2010
From: va57 at law.georgetown.edu (Vikram Agarwal)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 17:34:56 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam
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Message-ID: <84C7DE89EC13B74E90BC22E82A3DA17E969E4E@law-be2.law.georgetown.edu>

Has anyone taken the Virginia bar or the Maryland bar and requested and
received accommodations allowing the use of Jaws (or equivalent screen
reader) and extra time?  If so, I would greatly appreciate an
opportunity to speak with you to hear your experiences and advice.
Vikram
Va57 at law.georgetown.edu

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      exam or theMPRE? (Scott C. LaBarre)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:50:56 -0600
From: "Scott C. LaBarre" <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the
	California	Bar exam or theMPRE?
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Please read the below.
Thanks,
Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California Bar exam or

theMPRE?


> Disability Rights Advocates would like to speak with individuals who
are
> planning to take the California Bar exam or the Multistate
Professional
> Responsibility Exam (MPRE) in California during 2011 and who use
screen
> access technology (JAWS, ZoomText, or other screen reading or screen
> magnification programs) as their primary method of reading in
employment
> or law school settings. If you are in this situation, please contact
> Karla Gilbride at 510-665-8644 or kgilbride at dralegal.org.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
>
> Karla Gilbride
> Staff Attorney
> Disability Rights Advocates
> 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
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>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sun Oct  3 16:01:41 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 12:01:41 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: [Iabs-talk] Streaming of Illinois Convention 10/8
	-10/10
Message-ID: <13b97b.33a9742a.39da02e5@aol.com>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: pattichang at att.net
Reply-to: iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
To:  il-talk at nfbnet.org, iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: 10/3/2010 11:59:31 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Iabs-talk] Streaming of Ilinois Convention  10/8 -10/10


The National Federation of the Blind of Illinois will be  streaming our 
convention next weekend.  First and formost, we will  stream our banquet on 
Saturday night beginning 7:00 central time.   Dr. Maurer is our keynote 
speaker.  We will also stream our general  sessions Friday night (including 
the popular IABS Idol, Saturday morning,  Saturday afternoon and Sunday 
morning.

The link is:   http://gamebird.ehhh.us:8000/nfbi.m3u

Please mark it as a favorite now  or save this e-mail.  We are very excited 
to do this and want as many  to join us as  possible.




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From pattichang at att.net  Sun Oct  3 16:59:19 2010
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:59:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] IL convention streaming and agenda for 10/8 to 10/10
Message-ID: <CB5EB1AEE6364E1C9858206059D65235@D3J75Z91>

Re:  IL convention streaming and agenda for 10/8 to 10/10

The National Federation of the Blind of Illinois will be streaming our
convention next weekend.  First and formost, we will stream our banquet on
Saturday night beginning 7:00 central time.  Dr. Maurer is our keynote
speaker.  We will also stream our general sessions Friday night (including
the popular IABS Idol, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon and Sunday
morning.  Our convention agenda is also attached.

The link for streaming is:  http://gamebird.ehhh.us:8000/nfbi.m3u

Please mark it as a favorite now or save this e-mail.  We are very excited
to do this and want as many to join us as possible.



To sponsor me in the race for independence which raises funds for the 
Imagination Fund affiliated with the NFB Jernigan Institute, you can go to 
www.raceforindependence.org.  Help us build innovative programs and products 
to gain true independence.    For more information on NFB, the Jernigan 
Institute and the Imagination Fund, go to www.nfb.org.


P.S.  National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at 
www.twitter.com/nfbi.
We also have a facebook page.  Just search for our full name.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
pattichang at att.net
www.nfbofillinois.org 
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From taiablas at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 04:26:58 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:26:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
Message-ID: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>

Listers,

Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through Bookshare's
proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
materials.

Thanks.

Tai' 
 

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 13:08:25 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:08:25 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>

I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I bought
it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare?  I'd
like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
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Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare

Listers,

Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible 
published in
2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
Bookshare's
proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be 
available for
download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
materials.

Thanks.

Tai' 
 

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From taiablas at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 15:00:05 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:00:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
	<62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
Message-ID: <4A2B80F0-A08A-470A-8EC0-04698A09D4A4@gmail.com>

How did you get it as a pdf? Would you share it with me?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I bought
> it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare?  I'd
> like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible 
> published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be 
> available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tai' 
> 
> 
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From carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 23:36:45 2010
From: carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com (Kate Carroll)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:36:45 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List-ers,

I know this question has probably come up in previous discussions, so
forgive me for resurrecting it.

Can anyone tell me definitely if publishing companies are allowed to require
people to buy new versions of books before providing accessible e-files?

I am a law student who needs books from Aspen and West publishing.

Thanks, and my apologies again for what I am sure is bringing up a belabored
issue.

-- 
Kathryn CARROLL
St. John's University College of Law 2013
631-521-3018

From dricken at gmail.com  Tue Oct  5 08:39:05 2010
From: dricken at gmail.com (Kendrick Kennedy)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 03:39:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+4ZpoUs6KLUi+hUaqtWs4RYw8anw4a-5MvWoO@mail.gmail.com>

Kate,

West Publishing is requiring students to purchase new books in order
to release an accessible file. Aspen did not require me to purchase
new books.

I do not have a problem with purchasing a new book but I'm in my last
year of law school and West just out of the blue states students have
to purchase new books. After, I've purchased used books to minimize
cost as required by Rehab. Services.

Kendrick R. Kennedy, BSBA

Juris Doctor Candidate, 2011
The University of Mississippi,
School of Law

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677


From awilusa at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  5 11:58:01 2010
From: awilusa at yahoo.com (Girmai Kahsai)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 06:58:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers
References: <AANLkTimYdUSpJyPGj2nciFPsmqZU5Nvx+aUn__Yt4tZ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2FAD904D6C6F44EAA31E314BE7D2E80D@HP65761938311>

Yes, publishers such asAspen and Westlaw require the purchase of a book in 
print to provide an electronic version. When i was law student until 2009, i 
was required to present the receipt of a print book from Aspen or Westlaw 
through the disability/student services. once the publishers get the 
purchase receipt they send the electronic version either by email or cd to 
the student services. it is wise to request to electronic version to be in 
text format to make accessible using braille note takers.
regards, Girmai Kahsai
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] book requests from publishers


> Hi List-ers,
>
> I know this question has probably come up in previous discussions, so
> forgive me for resurrecting it.
>
> Can anyone tell me definitely if publishing companies are allowed to 
> require
> people to buy new versions of books before providing accessible e-files?
>
> I am a law student who needs books from Aspen and West publishing.
>
> Thanks, and my apologies again for what I am sure is bringing up a 
> belabored
> issue.
>
> -- 
> Kathryn CARROLL
> St. John's University College of Law 2013
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct  7 22:22:35 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:22:35 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [mamas_jobs] Part Time Admin/Paralegal - Ref#40950470
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Subject: [mamas_jobs] Part Time Admin/Paralegal - Ref#40950470

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct  7 22:39:36 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:39:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: WTKC10GM552530/D -- EEO Manager
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Subject: FW: WTKC10GM552530/D -- EEO Manager
Importance: High

Attached is the job announcement for a EEO Manager for the San Francisco Division of the U.S. Corps of Engineers.  The position is posted for application on http://www.USAJOBS.GOV. The position is a GS-12 and it is located in downtown San Francisco.

Please either consider this opportunity or distribute the announcement widely through your outreach and recruitment channels.  The application period for the position ends on 18-OCT-2010. If you or any of the candidates have questions, please contact me.  My contact information is below.  

Also, in the near future there will be an announcement for a EEO Specialist in the San Francisco District Office.

Thanks  ---Tony--



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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Oct  8 16:05:46 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:05:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: USDA Office of Ethics Vacancy Announcement
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B69D4E32D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: USDA Office of Ethics Vacancy Announcement

Please share and direct any interested party to the appropriate links.


USDA is recruiting for an Ethics Program Specialist.

The announcement is at the following link.  There are two announcements;  one for non status candidates:  http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=91309946&JobTitle=Program+Specialist+(Ethics)&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&jbf574=AGDA&vw=b&re=134&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&caller=advanced.aspx&AVSDM=2010-10-07+16%3a04%3a00

And one for Merit Promotion/applicants with non-competitive eligibility:  http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=91309944&JobTitle=Program+Specialist+(Ethics)&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&jbf574=AGDA&vw=b&re=134&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&caller=advanced.aspx&AVSDM=2010-10-07+16%3a04%3a00



-------------------------
Akinyemi Banjo/FDWC
Policy Advisor
U.S. Department of Labor
Office of Disability Employment Policy
200 Constitution Ave., NW; S-1011
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202-693-7919
Web: http://www.dol.gov/odep/



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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Oct  8 23:47:55 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:47:55 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: [il-talk] info for NFBI streaming
Message-ID: <29967f.e1d1b73.39e107ab@aol.com>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: leanne at uddle.com
Reply-to: il-talk at nfbnet.org
To:  il-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: 10/8/2010 7:16:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time
Subj: [il-talk] info for NFBI streaming




Streaming correction for this weekend's  NFB of Illiinois  convention:
http://67.212.189.10:8842/nfbi.m3u

LeAnne  Mayne     KB9ZEF      leanne at uddle.com
Listen  to:   LIFE   THE  UNIVERSE  &
EVERYTHING  w/Blair Alper         
Sundays 7pm CST  HTTP://cband.info/rfd2.m3u  
When he is Motivated to do a SHOW



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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:16:30 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:16:30 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us><62714B3C7BE24C42BD4E6172C2B954AF@Rufus>
	<4A2B80F0-A08A-470A-8EC0-04698A09D4A4@gmail.com>
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Hello All,

>From what I understand when registering for Bookshare.org, they have already 
certified that their users are blind and covered by the necessary copyright 
fair share exemptions, and that is why they are in operation.  I also think 
that their download files are linked to their licenses, like the one that I 
had to load onto my Victor Reader Stream to listen to the downloadable 
files.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare


> How did you get it as a pdf? Would you share it with me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also have the Reading Comprehension Bible, but I didn't scan it.  I 
>> bought
>> it already as a PDF.  So, would this not be acceptable for Bookshare? 
>> I'd
>> like to make it available to other people.  Any suggestions would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their 
>> sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
>> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible
>> published in
>> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through
>> Bookshare's
>> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be
>> available for
>> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
>> materials.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tai'
>>
>>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:18:18 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:18:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <A7A233EDC4D446B1B7FC461080A2A73B@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

Thank you.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare


> Listers,
>
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai'
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
> database 5500 (20101003) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:21:02 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:21:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam
References: <mailman.49.1285952408.11855.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<84C7DE89EC13B74E90BC22E82A3DA17E969E4E@law-be2.law.georgetown.edu>
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Vikram,

Aren't those states already being taken to court for not allowing users to 
use JAWS?

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vikram Agarwal" <va57 at law.georgetown.edu>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Bar Exam


> Has anyone taken the Virginia bar or the Maryland bar and requested and
> received accommodations allowing the use of Jaws (or equivalent screen
> reader) and extra time?  If so, I would greatly appreciate an
> opportunity to speak with you to hear your experiences and advice.
> Vikram
> Va57 at law.georgetown.edu
>
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>   1. Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the California Bar
>      exam or theMPRE? (Scott C. LaBarre)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:50:56 -0600
> From: "Scott C. LaBarre" <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [Nfbc-info] Are you planning to take the
> California Bar exam or theMPRE?
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> Please read the below.
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> Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karla Gilbride" <kgilbride at dralegal.org>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
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> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:40 PM
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> theMPRE?
>
>
>> Disability Rights Advocates would like to speak with individuals who
> are
>> planning to take the California Bar exam or the Multistate
> Professional
>> Responsibility Exam (MPRE) in California during 2011 and who use
> screen
>> access technology (JAWS, ZoomText, or other screen reading or screen
>> magnification programs) as their primary method of reading in
> employment
>> or law school settings. If you are in this situation, please contact
>> Karla Gilbride at 510-665-8644 or kgilbride at dralegal.org.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
>>
>>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Sat Oct  9 15:29:37 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:29:37 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
References: <auto-000171335945@mailfront1.g2host.com><A86C58580BA44841A32B9A81FF2B432A@TMLDELLLAPTOP1><1EC2D416-F623-4BBF-A60E-CF858F91B7A4@zufelt.ca>
	<1FC02694-441D-469D-BF18-C14B74C69991@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BD84524243BD4D3E89E72F95268055EC@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

George,

How is a resolution developed?I would like to submit this issue for 
consideration by NFB before the problem morphs into something even less 
friendly to the blind, such as manipulation of images and other things that 
are being developed?

Thanks,
Tom Ladis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Purpose of List


> Basically,
> a resolution must be made regarding CAPTCHAs.
> Then, it goes to the resolution board at general convention, and they do a 
> recommending vote.
> Then its presented to the general session, and stated weather "board 
> reccommends pass".
> And it goes to a full NFB-membership up or down vote.
> If aprooved, that becomes policy.
>
> Then the NFB can do as it sees fit within that policy.
>
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 4:19 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>
>> I'm not a member of NFB and I'm unfamiliar with practices and procedure. 
>> When NFB becomes involved in such actions does it first determine if 
>> members are supportive, and how does it so do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Everett Zufelt
>> http://zufelt.ca
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter
>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>
>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-09-12, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.  I am not a lawyer yet, but think that someone who is and has the 
>>> energy to file actions against a few of the largest offenders, such as 
>>> LinkedIn, Home Depot, Google(Gmail), CraigsList, and others, would make 
>>> a huge difference for the blind community.  I will talk with Judge 
>>> Pomaro and Equip For Equality here in Chicago about the subject.
>>>
>>> We can discuss the technical details in the blind programmers or blind 
>>> webbers groups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would we be able to file a federal action since these companies are 
>>> global? If necessary, we can find brick and mortars to approach about 
>>> changing their system, and that may cause change.
>>>
>>> Also, would NFB be willing to become involved?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Ladis
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
>>>
>>>
>>>> A reminder to everybody -- this is the Blind Law list.  It is not for 
>>>> the discussion of the merits, or lack thereof for CAPTCHA's, for 
>>>> debating the Blind Driver Challenge etc.  Please take those topics 
>>>> elsewhere and stick to the law and blindness.
>>>>
>>>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Sat Oct  9 15:54:38 2010
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 11:54:38 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
In-Reply-To: <BD84524243BD4D3E89E72F95268055EC@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
References: <auto-000171335945@mailfront1.g2host.com>
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Hi Tom:
If you wish to take it to the NFB, you have to submit the written resolution to Jessy Hartle for consideration.

Jorge


On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:

> George,
> 
> How is a resolution developed?I would like to submit this issue for consideration by NFB before the problem morphs into something even less friendly to the blind, such as manipulation of images and other things that are being developed?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Ladis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
> 
> 
>> Basically,
>> a resolution must be made regarding CAPTCHAs.
>> Then, it goes to the resolution board at general convention, and they do a recommending vote.
>> Then its presented to the general session, and stated weather "board reccommends pass".
>> And it goes to a full NFB-membership up or down vote.
>> If aprooved, that becomes policy.
>> 
>> Then the NFB can do as it sees fit within that policy.
>> 
>> 
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 4:19 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not a member of NFB and I'm unfamiliar with practices and procedure. When NFB becomes involved in such actions does it first determine if members are supportive, and how does it so do?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Everett Zufelt
>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter
>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010-09-12, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ladis wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello.  I am not a lawyer yet, but think that someone who is and has the energy to file actions against a few of the largest offenders, such as LinkedIn, Home Depot, Google(Gmail), CraigsList, and others, would make a huge difference for the blind community.  I will talk with Judge Pomaro and Equip For Equality here in Chicago about the subject.
>>>> 
>>>> We can discuss the technical details in the blind programmers or blind webbers groups.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Would we be able to file a federal action since these companies are global? If necessary, we can find brick and mortars to approach about changing their system, and that may cause change.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, would NFB be willing to become involved?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Ladis
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:02 PM
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Purpose of List
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A reminder to everybody -- this is the Blind Law list.  It is not for the discussion of the merits, or lack thereof for CAPTCHA's, for debating the Blind Driver Challenge etc.  Please take those topics elsewhere and stick to the law and blindness.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>                      David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Mon Oct 11 16:33:26 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:33:26 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Law school in Canada and how it all works.
Message-ID: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there.

I was recently speaking with someone who is wanting to try and get into Law 
school and was mentioning that here in Canada we have one year of articling. 
I was wondering if that is in our third year or if that is after the three 
years of Law school? Have a great day and for the Canadian listers Happy 
thanksgiving and Americans happy Columbus day.

Blaine 

From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Oct 11 16:40:49 2010
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire.)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:40:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] {Disarmed} Emailing: Google is testing cars that drive
	themselves - CNN.com.htm
Message-ID: <8BB5C4B8D77049DB8F0AD28BF299EC7E@LawOfficePC>

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The vehicles have been tested on 140,000 miles of California road, from Silicon Valley to Santa Monica.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  a.. Google has developed cars that drive themselves automatically in traffic 
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(Mashable) -- Google announced Sunday that it has developed cars that drive themselves automatically in traffic, and that it has been testing them on the streets of California for months. It might seem like an unusual project for Google, but it could actually have big benefits.

We're not just talking about cars running Google Android. This is the stuff of science fiction. The only accident that has occurred so far: One of the cars was rear-ended by a driver at a stop light. Human error!

The vehicles have been tested on 140,000 miles of California road, from Silicon Valley to Santa Monica. 

Each car is manned during the tests. One person sits in the driver's seat, ready to take control of the vehicle instantly by grabbing the wheel or touch the brake should something go wrong with the system. The person in the passenger's seat is an engineer who monitors the software operations on a computer.

Google (Google) hired engineers who previously participated in competitions and races involving automated cars -- important turning points in the development of the technology, which has been coming into its own since around 2005 according to The New York Times.

If your first concern is one of safety, Google would argue that you're going about it all wrong. 

Safety is one of the the project's purposes. Google believes that the technology could nearly half the number of automobile-related deaths because computers are supposedly better at driving than humans in the right circumstances.

There are other hypothetical pluses, too. The vehicles' instant reaction time and 360-degree awareness would allow them to drive closer together on the highway than humans can, reducing traffic congestion. They could be more careful when operating the gas, reducing fuel consumption.

But the biggest benefit for Google would be the hour or so of daily commute time the car owner would save. Instead of driving, he or she could either be productive or entertained in the vehicle, doing work on a wireless Internet (Internet) connection or watching television. 

Google doesn't say it explicitly, but TechCrunch was quick to note that this time could be spent using Google products and absorbing Google-run advertising.

The most optimistic projections put this technology at least eight years away from market, though. Legal hassles are among the myriad problems; all of the current traffic laws assume that a human driver is present in the vehicle.

Do you think this technology will eventually be deployed, or is it just a pipe dream for Sergei and Larry? Let us know in the comments.

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From lists at zufelt.ca  Mon Oct 11 16:42:41 2010
From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:42:41 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Law school in Canada and how it all works.
In-Reply-To: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <002701cb6962$07b82050$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <F59E1BF1-6D94-4EB8-9DB5-ADEB98544ED7@zufelt.ca>

Articling requirements in Canada vary from one province to the next, generally it is roughly one year and is begun after completing the 3 year LL.B. degree from a recognized Canadian law school.  Depending on province you will also be taking bar courses and completing bar exams during the articling period.  If you article with a high profile firm they may pay you during your bar courses and pay for the bar exams.


HTH,
Everett Zufelt
http://zufelt.ca

Follow me on Twitter
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On 2010-10-11, at 12:33 PM, Blaine Deutscher wrote:

> Hello there.
> 
> I was recently speaking with someone who is wanting to try and get into Law 
> school and was mentioning that here in Canada we have one year of articling. 
> I was wondering if that is in our third year or if that is after the three 
> years of Law school? Have a great day and for the Canadian listers Happy 
> thanksgiving and Americans happy Columbus day.
> 
> Blaine 
> _______________________________________________
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From LBlake at nfb.org  Tue Oct 12 16:38:42 2010
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:38:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille
Message-ID: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>

Dear List Members:
 
The Jacobus tenBroek Library has received a request from the Education
Administration Officer, of the South African National Council for the
Blind, for information on Braille policy or legislation in the United
States, Canada, and the UK.  Currently, South Africa does not have any
official policy or legislation relating to Braille.
 
The library staff will forward your responses.  Thank you for your
input.
 
Lou Ann Blake, J.D.
HAVA Project Manager and Law Symposium Coordinator
Jacobus tenBroek Library
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
    at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230
Telephone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2221
Fax: (410) 659-5129
E-mail: lblake at nfb.org <mailto:lblake at nfb.org> 
Web site: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfb.org/> 
 

Text the word BLIND to 85944 to donate $10 to the NFB Imagination Fund
via your phone bill.

 

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Wed Oct 13 01:52:59 2010
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:52:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille
In-Reply-To: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>
References: <7638A85981599142811F69FBB9508B6B033F8BDC@FPNTEXCBE01.services.local>
Message-ID: <20101013015259.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Lou-Ann: 
As I recall, the federal Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) has some language concerning Braille literacy.  Also, there are Braille bills that the NFB got passed in about thirty states, including New York. 
Feel free to contact me off-list or by phone, and I'll help you track down the New York legislation. 
Ray Wayne 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake, Lou Ann" <LBlake at nfb.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tuesday, Oct 12, 2010 11:40:40
Subject: [bllaw] Policy and Legislation Relating to Use of Braille

>
>
> Dear List Members:
>  
> The Jacobus tenBroek Library has received a request from the Education
> Administration Officer, of the South African National Council for the
> Blind, for information on Braille policy or legislation in the United
> States, Canada, and the UK.  Currently, South Africa does not have any
> official policy or legislation relating to Braille.
>  
> The library staff will forward your responses.  Thank you for your
> input.
>  
> Lou Ann Blake, J.D.
> HAVA Project Manager and Law Symposium Coordinator
> Jacobus tenBroek Library
> Jernigan Institute
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
> 200 East Wells Street
>     at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, MD 21230
> Telephone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2221
> Fax: (410) 659-5129
> E-mail: lblake at nfb.org <mailto:lblake at nfb.org> 
> Web site: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfb.org/> 
>  
> 
> Text the word BLIND to 85944 to donate $10 to the NFB Imagination Fund
> via your phone bill.
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
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> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 14 17:01:31 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:01:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Special Report: Diversity, National Law Journal,
	October 11 2010
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6BF80E43@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



Link:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473139435&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=National%20Law%20Journal&pt=NLJ.com-%20Daily%20Headlines&cn=20101011NLJ&kw=Special%20Report%3A%20Diversity&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1

Text:

Special Report: Diversity

A focus on attorneys with disabilities who are making headway in the profession.
October 11, 2010
Opportunities for disabled attorneys are increasing both through advances in technology and changing attitudes toward the rights and abilities of those with handicaps. In this special report, The National Law Journal profiles disabled attorneys forging successful careers at large law firms, on the bench, as solo practitioners and at one of the nation's most prestigious law schools.

Lawyers with disabilities are making headway<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089244>
When it comes to the number of attorneys and aspiring attorneys with disabilities, the picture is far from clear because few groups collect detailed information on disabled attorneys. Advocates say that is one reason why efforts to increase their presence throughout the profession have lagged behind the parallel pushes to boost the number of women and minorities. Still, doors are opening more and more for disabled attorneys.
>From Supreme Court clerk to appellate advocate<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089386>
Isaac Lidsky has come close to achieving a paperless law office. That's because Lidsky, an associate in the New York office of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, is blind, and paper is not of much use to him. Almost all the documents he deals with are reformatted by a team of support staff for special software that reads the documents aloud to Lidsky.
Wisconsin judge overcomes hearing impairment
<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473099157>Richard Brown has relied on technology and perseverance to build a prestigious legal career despite almost complete deafness. After stints as an assistant district attorney and litigator at a private law firm in Racine, Wis., Brown was elected to the Wisconsin Court of Appeals in 1978 and now serves as chief judge.
An energetic advocate for disabled law students<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089733>
Elizabeth Kolbe, a Stanford 2L with a spinal cord injury, hopes that opportunities for law students with disabilities will increase with improved advocacy. She's the vice president of the National Association of Law Students With Disabilities, a resource for disabled law students seeking tips on academic accommodations and careers.
Going solo is the best fit for some disabled lawyers<http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473089818>
Disabled lawyers across the country say hanging out a shingle helps them manage their physical needs and limitations. Those who receive Social Security disability benefits can maximize income without exceeding government-benefit restrictions and even provide low-cost or free legal help to disabled and low-income clients.



From jsorozco at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 22:46:01 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:46:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
Message-ID: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>

Hello,

I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists.  I
didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There are
some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing



From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Fri Oct 15 02:10:15 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:10:15 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
Message-ID: <02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there everyone. I was shocked when I saw this subject line as a friend 
innvighted me to the "LinkedIn" page and an email was sent to me.  I too 
didn't pay too much attention to it as it seemd for professionals.  Am I 
correct in assuming that it is a "social network" similar to Facebook and 
Twitter?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


Hello,

I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists.  I
didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There are
some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing


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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Fri Oct 15 04:29:46 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:29:46 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] request e-mails
Message-ID: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>

Hello there.

I was wondering why I'm getting e-mails to be unsubscribed from this list? I 
haven't sent any requests in so if someone would like me off this list could 
you please e-mail me as to why that would be greatly appreciated.

Blaine 

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 09:27:08 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:27:08 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
	<02d801cb6c0e$1b4d64f0$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <D777A1DCA5E9409B811DFDA90B8721F5@spike>

yes, and as it is geared for professionals it doesn't have all the cutesy 
features that Facebook or Myspace has.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello there everyone. I was shocked when I saw this subject line as a 
> friend
> innvighted me to the "LinkedIn" page and an email was sent to me.  I too
> didn't pay too much attention to it as it seemd for professionals.  Am I
> correct in assuming that it is a "social network" similar to Facebook and
> Twitter?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindlaw:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.m.deutscher%40sasktel.net
>
>
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> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 15 09:04:30 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:04:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
Message-ID: <44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>

I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
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From dandrews at visi.com  Fri Oct 15 09:49:05 2010
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 04:49:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] request e-mails
In-Reply-To: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>
References: <03f601cb6c21$98c2b990$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <auto-000176668346@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Occasionally the unsubscribe messages are generated by the system -- 
this is caused by people not cleaning out all the footer info at the 
bottom of messages they reply to.  This info includes personal 
options page links that sometimes get triggered.  Just ignore the 
messages and they will expire.

David Andrews, List Owner.

At 11:29 PM 10/14/2010, you wrote:
>Hello there.
>
>I was wondering why I'm getting e-mails to be unsubscribed from this list? I
>haven't sent any requests in so if someone would like me off this list could
>you please e-mail me as to why that would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Blaine

                         David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920



From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 13:25:48 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:25:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus>
	<44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
Message-ID: <3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>

Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn

I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB 
Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello,
>
> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of 
these lists. 
> I
> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I 
wish I had on
> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with 
it?  There 
> are
> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the 
JAWS cursor.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
> 
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an%40sbcglobal.net 



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Oct 15 14:00:47 2010
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:00:47 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
	<3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
Message-ID: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>

Hello Joe and Chuck -
Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get linked in to 
work for you?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
> these lists.
>> I
>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
> wish I had on
>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
> it?  There
>> are
>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
> JAWS cursor.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
> an%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 15:06:40 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:06:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike>
	<3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
	<35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <D170D5367D9C4A4EAC1DD81B7528C182@Rufus>

Hi Ross,

It might be easier if you explained what part of the website is giving you
trouble.  I initially had some issues with adding people to my network.
JAWS would not record my input into the edit fields.  For example, for
people with whom I'd worked with at a previous company, JAWS would not
record my position title and years I worked there, but I only experienced
this the first couple times.  I'd neglected to read the error message that
was popping up at the top of the page.  At any rate, I now seem to have a
handle on it.  It's a lot more manageable than the Facebook account I never
check.

Best,

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Doerr [mailto:rumpole at roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:01 AM
To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn

Hello Joe and Chuck -
Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get 
linked in to 
work for you?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
> these lists.
>> I
>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
> wish I had on
>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
> it?  There
>> are
>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
> JAWS cursor.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
> an%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 16 03:29:01 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:29:01 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
References: <38B4DF73A72440F39CBF6D71784C892E@Rufus><44C617B57ACB4211BB3149BADF094C5C@spike><3EEC5CAC4CD447708310E2467A62AB73@Rufus>
	<35C80C76553F485696BFF68BADFF517C@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <03AB4DF157534F18B6775EE40F2CB45B@spike>

At first when I tried to use it a couple of years ago I found completing the 
profile a bit confusing and ended up doing it in installments as the 
instructions of what is contained in it were not very clear. Otherwise, I 
haven't had any difficulties using it. I use it for postings on various 
groups that I am a member of and have signed to receive regular email 
updates about what those who I'm linked with are doing. What specific 
problems are you having with it?
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn


> Hello Joe and Chuck -
> Would you guys let the rest of us know how you managed to get linked in to 
> work for you?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>
>
>> Yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong.  Thanks much.--Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their 
>> sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ckrugman at sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:05 AM
>> To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>>
>> I use it quite regularly with JAWS and have no difficulties.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB
>> Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:46 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I know that the discussion about LinkedIn came across one of
>> these lists.
>>> I
>>> didn't pay much attention to the thread, and of course now I
>> wish I had on
>>> account I need it for my job.  Have you guys had success with
>> it?  There
>>> are
>>> some features I can't seem to make work with and without the
>> JAWS cursor.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>> their sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> blindlaw:
>>>
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugm
>> an%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>
>
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From dtomblin at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 18 05:20:24 2010
From: dtomblin at hotmail.com (Darren Tomblin)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:20:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare
In-Reply-To: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
References: <830B17CB1BA14C67A5BADC34BD1B63AB@blind.state.ia.us>
Message-ID: <BLU139-DS10A967B6AB9B773D70C673D45A0@phx.gbl>

Hi, just wondering if you have any idea when the books will be in bookshare. 
I'm taking the lsat in december and was wanting to use these books. thanks

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:26 AM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] New LSAT Study Materials Uploaded to Bookshare

> Listers,
>
> Today, I scanned and uploaded the most recent versions of the Powerscore
> Logic Games Bible and the Power Score Logical Reasoning Bible published in
> 2008 and 2009 respectively. These books will need to go through 
> Bookshare's
> proofreading and approval processes, but look for them to be available for
> download very soon. I am hoping that these will be useful LSAT study
> materials.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai'
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
> database 5500 (20101003) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
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>
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>
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> 


From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Oct 19 00:14:58 2010
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:14:58 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?
Message-ID: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>

Hello Everyone:

In colorado, where may I find the ballot measures for 2010?  I want to 
download and read them ahead of time before going out to vote.

I could not think of a better list to pose the question so I thought a list 
for lawyers would be best; much thanks!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 19 10:14:34 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 03:14:34 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?
In-Reply-To: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>
References: <D15ABE9996DE492481CA56C6BE93FBC0@valtd>
Message-ID: <209E3F50D595474180BD5D8442812C1C@spike>

For an official list try your secretary of state's web site. Otherwise, 
doing a search under "November 2010 Colorado Ballot Initiatives" turned up 
many possible sites where you can find this information.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] COLORADO BALLOT MEASURES -- WHERE TO FIND?


> Hello Everyone:
>
> In colorado, where may I find the ballot measures for 2010?  I want to 
> download and read them ahead of time before going out to vote.
>
> I could not think of a better list to pose the question so I thought a 
> list for lawyers would be best; much thanks!!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 20 19:44:35 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:44:35 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of
 Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations, DOJ,
 October 20 2010
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6C0ABF02@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



Link:
http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010/anprm_nov-jan_2010.htm

Text:
Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations

The Department of Justice has scheduled three public hearings on four Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRMs)<anprm2010.htm>, which seek public comment on the possibility of revising the ADA regulations to address accessible web information and services, movie captioning and video description, accessibility of Next Generation 9-1-1, and accessible equipment and furniture. The ANPRMs were published in the Federal Register on July 26, 2010, and the comment period for them closes on January 24, 2011.

The public hearings are scheduled for the following dates and locations:

*       November 18, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., CST, at
Access Living, 115 West Chicago Avenue, Chicago, IL 60654.
*       December 16, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., EST, at
the United States Access Board, 1331 F Street, NW, Washington, DC 20004.
*       January 2011 in San Francisco, CA, at a date and location to be announced in the near future on the ADA Home Page at www.ada.gov<http://www.ada.gov>.

For additional information, including the procedures for registering to comment at the hearings and for requesting special accommodations, click on the link below for the advance text of the Department's Notice of Public Hearings.

Hearing Notice: Notice of Public Hearings on ANPRMs<public_hearing_anprm_2010.htm>


From khagen12 at q.com  Wed Oct 20 22:14:40 2010
From: khagen12 at q.com (kathleen hagen)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:14:40 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of
	Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing
	Regulations, DOJ, October 20 2010
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B6C0ABF02@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1494FD3FFD0AF544735745FC95C0@phx.gbl>

Thank you Noel for forwarding on this information.
Kathleen Hagen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:44 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of 
Proposed Rulemaking to Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations, DOJ, October 
20 2010


>
>
> Link:
> http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010/anprm_nov-jan_2010.htm
>
> Text:
> Notice of Public Hearings on the Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking to 
> Revise the ADA Implementing Regulations
>
> The Department of Justice has scheduled three public hearings on four 
> Advance Notices of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRMs)<anprm2010.htm>, which seek 
> public comment on the possibility of revising the ADA regulations to 
> address accessible web information and services, movie captioning and 
> video description, accessibility of Next Generation 9-1-1, and accessible 
> equipment and furniture. The ANPRMs were published in the Federal Register 
> on July 26, 2010, and the comment period for them closes on January 24, 
> 2011.
>
> The public hearings are scheduled for the following dates and locations:
>
> *       November 18, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., CST, at
> Access Living, 115 West Chicago Avenue, Chicago, IL 60654.
> *       December 16, 2010, from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., EST, at
> the United States Access Board, 1331 F Street, NW, Washington, DC 20004.
> *       January 2011 in San Francisco, CA, at a date and location to be 
> announced in the near future on the ADA Home Page at 
> www.ada.gov<http://www.ada.gov>.
>
> For additional information, including the procedures for registering to 
> comment at the hearings and for requesting special accommodations, click 
> on the link below for the advance text of the Department's Notice of 
> Public Hearings.
>
> Hearing Notice: Notice of Public Hearings on 
> ANPRMs<public_hearing_anprm_2010.htm>
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Mon Oct 25 00:16:49 2010
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:16:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: [nabs-l] Braille Notetaker Survey
Message-ID: <890EF4C8ADA74551A9F90A4A1D866EF6@hometwxakonvzn>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'Discussion list for NABS,National Alliance of Blind Students.'" 
<nabs at acb.org>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" 
<nfbcs at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>; 
<ATCNFB at yahoogroups.com>; <members at nfb-texas.org>; 
<tabs_students at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Notetaker Survey


> Hello,
>
> Sorry if this has already made the rounds, but the National Braille Press,
> in partnership with Bentley University, is conducting a survey about user
> preferences for Braille notetakers.  My sense is this research and
> development for the Android device they're putting together.  Please fill 
> it
> out.  It only takes about 5 minutes and will provide feedback to people 
> who
> are dedicated to changing the field in the expensive notetaker field.
>
> https://bentley.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3fs0pdBxChLuMSg
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
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From JChwalow at nfb.org  Mon Oct 25 16:31:34 2010
From: JChwalow at nfb.org (Chwalow,
	Judith)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:31:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind academics and Thomson Reuters
Message-ID: <auto-000178079968@mailfront1.g2host.com>

From: William Page [mailto:page at scipol.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 7:19 AM
To: Maurer, Patricia
Subject: Blind academics and Thomson Reuters

As always, academics need to be published in academic journals.
Increasingly, journals are insisting articles are submitted online. 
The market leader is ScholarOne Manuscript, a division of Thomson 
Reuters and based in the US. Its websites have many buttons which are 
graphics with no hidden text beneath them; I believe no screen reader 
can read them. This limits the ability of blind academics to submit 
articles to at least this major player. This is unhelpful to their 
career development!

I know this because I am a blind publisher who signed up to use their 
service for our journals - and I cannot use it!

Thomson Reuters agree they should be doing something about this, but 
cannot see it being done for some time. Is there an association of 
blind academics who might add pressure to get this changed sooner 
rather than later? Below are my emails to Thomson Reuters about this; 
they are clearly not trying to be difficult, but say this would be an 
immense job for technical reasons.

You are welcome to forward this email to anyone you think appropriate.
Thanks for any help you can give.

Bill Page

--------------------------------------------
William Page
Beech Tree Publishing
- Science and Public Policy
- Research Evaluation
- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal 10 Watford Close, 
Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 
567497 Email page at scipol.co.uk Website www.scipol.co.uk (including 
links to journal abstracts and full texts on the Ingenta Connect site)

-----Original Message-----
From: tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com
[mailto:tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com]
Sent: 18 June 2010 18:58
To: page at scipol.co.uk
Cc: ryan.looney at thomsonreuters.com
Subject: RE: MC and screen readers


Dear Bill,

Thank you for your note explaining the hardship you're experience using
ScholarOne Manuscripts with Hal.  While I have heard that certain users
with screen readers had various minor troubles using the system, I
haven't become aware that the system was impossible to use until you
mentioned it below.  From my understanding of screen readers, they rely
heavily (if not solely) on "alt text" describing images and buttons to
aid in navigation.

I also appreciate your willingness to help prioritize changes in the
sites you work with.  However, in the case of ScholarOne Manuscripts,
the system is built in such a way that all sites rely on the same code
base to work; each site, rather than being a unique deployment of unique
code, is simply a branch of the main code for all sites.  Any changes we
make to one site will and must affect all.  Adding "alt text" to each
image throughout the site is a large undertaking, and is further
complicated by the fact that the sites can be customized to display
different images depending on workflow, configuration, and language
settings.

While I don't believe that we can expect any improvement in 2010, as our
resources are completely deployed on other projects, I will speak with
my supervisors here and at Thomson Reuters to evaluate this for the
future.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have further questions.

Best wishes,
Tiffany

.................................................................
Tiffany Coker
Director, Product Management
ScholarOne
Healthcare & Science

Thomson Reuters

Phone: 434.964.4027
Fax: 434.817.2039

tiffany.coker at thomsonreuters.com
thomsonreuters.com


-----Original Message-----
From: William Page [mailto:page at scipol.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:26 AM
To: Coker, Tiffany (Hlthcr&Science)
Cc: Looney, Ryan (Hlthcr&Science)
Subject: RE: MC and screen readers

Hello Tiffany
Around December, Ryan Looney kindly contacted you on my behalf. We had
signed up for two of the journals I publish to be on Manuscript Central.
It took me time to realize that I could not really use MC because I am
blind and use a screen reader (called Hal). Although David Thomas knew I
was blind when he did the demonstration, it did not become apparent
until much later that this would be a problem.

I appreciate your situation, of making all MC sites compliant will be an
immense undertaking. However, I am currently signed up to a service
which I cannot use! So I wonder if we can reach a compromise: might it
be possible to make just our two sites compliant? By which I mean, that
a competent screen reader can read?

If it helps: I am actively involved as an editor as well as the
publisher of one, Science and Public Policy, so this would be my
priority. If the other, Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal, had to
wait, I could survive because I am not actively involved in editing that
one, only in publishing it.

If there is anything I can do to help with this, please tell me.

With thanks for any help  you can give me,

Best wishes

Bill Page

--------------------------------------------
William Page
Beech Tree Publishing
- Science and Public Policy
- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal
10 Watford Close, Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK
Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 567497
Email page at scipol.co.uk
Website www.scipol.co.uk (including links to journal abstracts and full
texts on the Ingenta Connect site)




From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Oct 25 20:19:08 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:19:08 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: LSAT survey-please consider taking if you received
 accommodations
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B78D7E756@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



-----Original Message-----
From: CMPDL's Disability Discussion Docket (3D) [mailto:CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG] On Behalf Of Carrie Griffin Basas
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:48 AM
To: CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG
Subject: LSAT survey-please consider taking if you received accommodations

Prof. Carrie Griffin Basas of the University of North Carolina School
of Law is conducting a brief online survey of LSAT (Law School
Admissions Test) test-takers with disabilities who received
accommodations on the exam.  Anyone who has taken the LSAT-whether or
not they ended up attending law school-and received an accommodation
for the LSAT is eligible to participate.  Participants are asked to
respond to the 5-10 minute survey before December 1, 2010.  Please
forward this information widely  to your respective networks.  The
results of the survey will be completely confidential and anonymous.
The data will assist Prof. Basas in understanding the potential impact
of accommodated LSAT tests on law school admissions.  If you have
questions or concerns about the survey, please direct them to Prof.
Basas, basas at email.unc.edu.  The survey is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/37ehvd4



Thank you,
Carrie

Carrie Griffin Basas
Visiting Assistant Professor
UNC School of Law
basas at unc.edu
919-962-3688

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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 26 16:23:35 2010
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
Message-ID: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      

From joramsey at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 16:38:31 2010
From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:38:31 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA7E27685A9444EB80F762AA350A6EF5@noneeb869fea9a>

Hi Mike:
I use Open Book's Freedom Import printer to read those documents and it
works pretty well.
Take care,
John 


"Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat
you with experience." ~ anonymous

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net  Tue Oct 26 16:42:30 2010
From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn Bonnette)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:42:30 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1E118DB6AA8744A08ECC118D30282A59@14bd0130080a469>

Mike,

I've had frequent experiences with this in federal work. I generally choose
the print option. Alternatively, you may save it in a Word file first and
try opening it with Kurzweil. I have had less experience with this, but
another on this list may also have used that method.

Best,

Cathryn Bonnette

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Oct 26 17:06:26 2010
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:06:26 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>

Mike. If the attachment works, I'm sending you the method I use. The guy who wrote it goes into more detail than you may want, but the process works.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:24 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Oct 26 20:54:52 2010
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Sexton, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:54:52 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>
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	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233736F7F1A43@tiger>
Message-ID: <004301cb7550$0de02d20$29a08760$@net>

open it in kurzweil or open book if you have those programs!  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:06 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike. If the attachment works, I'm sending you the method I use. The guy who
wrote it goes into more detail than you may want, but the process works.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:24 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is
treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire document
(which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is
rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought of
copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can
read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore
cannot be copied and pasted.

Thanks.

Mike


      
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From steve.jacobson at visi.com  Tue Oct 26 21:21:18 2010
From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:21:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000022333647@mailback2.g2host.com>

Most of the OCR programs now support doing OCR from PDF to create text versions.  Kurzweil 1000 and Open Book both have this ability as I understand 
it, although you may have to print the document to a "virtual printer" which captures the output in a file that can be accessed directly for OCR.  Omnipage 
has a PDF Converter that comes with it as well.  In general, pasting a scanned document into Word will not solve your problem unless you have the version 
of Microsoft Office that includes some OCR capability.  

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT), Mike Gilmore wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an 
empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I thought 
of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and 
therefore cannot be copied and pasted.

>Thanks.

>Mike


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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 27 06:53:40 2010
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:53:40 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>

This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The 
document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty 
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents 
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty 
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore 
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the 
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I 
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so 
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and 
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Wed Oct 27 11:52:14 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:52:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
Message-ID: <AE66C587A735493881133C832DA28DDD@Rufus>

ABBYY Finereader.  Don't be a conformist! (grin)

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:54 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The 
document can be read with either of those programs without much 
difficulty 
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. 
Sometimes, documents 
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
it's an empty 
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image 
and therefore 
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire 
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of 
paper if the 
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this 
problem? I 
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a 
Word document so 
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made 
secure and 
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From stiehm.law at juno.com  Wed Oct 27 12:35:00 2010
From: stiehm.law at juno.com (Patrick H Stiehm)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:35:00 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
Message-ID: <20101027.083500.400.0.stiehm.law@juno.com>

If you have Adobe Acrobat there is away to convert an image to a true
PDF, that JAWS should be able tp read.  I can't tell you how to do it but
Adobe customer support should be able to help.

Stiehm Law Office
Alexandria, Virginia
703-360-1089 (Voice)
703-935-8266 (Fax)

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Mike Gilmore
<m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com> writes:
> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
> be copied and pasted.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Wed Oct 27 13:52:17 2010
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:52:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
Message-ID: <019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>

Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is 
purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price 
range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between the 
one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and 
convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that 
have the professional version.  Hope this helps.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
as long as it is a good scan of the document.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document so
>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From tom at tomladis.com  Wed Oct 27 14:01:59 2010
From: tom at tomladis.com (Tom Ladis)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:01:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>
	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>
Message-ID: <5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 28 16:14:56 2010
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:14:56 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] from law.com: Judge's Unusual Order Revives Law Firm
 Diversity Issue
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B78D7EFFB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202474038196&Judges_Unusual_Order_Revives_Law_Firm_Diversity_Issue

excerpt:

After 16 years of observing scores of litigation teams from his seat on the Southern District bench, Judge Harold Baer Jr. has strong views about what is lacking in many slaw firms: diversity

A stir recently erupted in the securities class action bar after Baer issued an order<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810order1.pdf> in a case against Gilda Activewear Inc., directing two of the largest firms in the field, Labaton Sucharow and Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, to "make every effort" to put at least one woman and one minority lawyer on the case<http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202472380122>. The ensuing press about the order caused Edward Labaton, a senior partner at his firm, to make a rare court appearance earlier this month to publicly state that his firm was committed to equal opportunity (See Labaton's letter<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810letter.pdf> to Baer).
In a follow up order last Friday<http://www.nylj.com/nylawyer/adgifs/decisions/102810order2.pdf> in In re Gildan Activewear Inc. Securities Litigation, 08 cv 5048, Baer said his initial order "was not intended to be critical in any way" of how the two firms promote diversity or prosecute and staff a case. But he said the diversity considerations "were goals I would urge be met in similar cases that come before me."


From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 31 02:06:47 2010
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
Message-ID: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike


      

From jsorozco at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 02:32:39 2010
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:32:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2D33AD318DB248E5867729991733138B@Rufus>

The only thing close to us here is the NFB National Center in Baltimore,
Independence Market.  Actually, I think the Columbia Lighthouse might carry
some of these items as well.

Joe

“Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all.”--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:07 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of 
anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering 
where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia 
purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells 
canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike


      
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From marshall at blindlawyers.org  Sun Oct 31 05:26:48 2010
From: marshall at blindlawyers.org (ScottMarshall)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:26:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>

Hi:
One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the DC area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not sure whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
~
On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:

Hi everybody,
 
I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
 
Thanks.
 
Mike



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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 07:34:15 2010
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 02:34:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945>
	<5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
Message-ID: <004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Sun Oct 31 07:51:09 2010
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 00:51:09 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945><5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1>
	<004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
Message-ID: <307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>

I use Kurzweil and select "virtual scanner" and the program OCR's it.  I
then save it as a Word doc to read or whatever.

James

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Behalf Of WB
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:34 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Sun Oct 31 10:16:27 2010
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 03:16:27 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
In-Reply-To: <307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>
References: <444930.12274.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><178C7B79E9C2400999973BBFF4C59DF7@spike>	<019301cb75de$2b6b8f90$400110ac@GPD945><5F3EAF02C6DC4381A2C17A0B9E92E0F8@TMLDELLLAPTOP1><004b01cb78ce$06710f60$13532e20$@com>
	<307AEE433B044ECD8DBFFEE78F0CD397@Blind>
Message-ID: <959EBA727F6046CEB6CE7FD26C895256@Blind>

Correction.  In Adobe, I select "virtual printer" from the print menu and it
sends the doc for OCR to my Kurzweil program which then allows me to save
the now recognizable doc.  Hope that is more helpful than my last attempt.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of James Weisberg
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:51 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I use Kurzweil and select "virtual scanner" and the program OCR's it.  I
then save it as a Word doc to read or whatever.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:34 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

Mike,

The full version of Adobe Reader works perfectly with the image files.  It
will tell you that the document is blank, do you want it to match it with
the closest character.  it takes maybe 30 seconds and will fix a clean
document perfectly.  I think this would be the easiest because the OCR
programs work less than it fails.

so, check out the full version of Adobe 9.0.  It should work fine.  I'm
using this method at the firm I work at.  Hope that helps.

Will
mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:02 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

If you have OpenBook, you can either open the file using OpenBook or print 
the file and select the Freedom Import Printer, which will send it to 
OpenBook directly from Adobe.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's


> Another option, and this is what I did for my University courses, is
> purchase a PDF converter such as nuonce PDF converter. it's in the price
> range of $112 for the professional version.  The only difference between 
> the
> one that I have ($95) and the professional version is you can go back and
> convert word or text files into PDF from myunderstanding from people that
> have the professional version.  Hope this helps.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
> This is where OCR software such as Kurzweil or Open book comes in. The
> document can be read with either of those programs without much difficulty
> as long as it is a good scan of the document.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, documents
>>are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that it's an empty
>>document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an image and therefore
>>is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of printing out the entire
>>document (which can be very time-consuming and wasteful of paper if the
>>document is rather long), is there any way to work around this problem? I
>>thought of copying  and pasting the entire document into a Word document 
>>so
>>JAWS can read it. This works except when the PDF has been made secure and
>>therefore cannot be copied and pasted.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From taiablas at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 16:17:54 2010
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:17:54 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
In-Reply-To: <4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>
References: <500085.18212.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4B3E275C-E32A-472E-9CC1-3E7B38C4E033@blindlawyers.org>
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The independence market does have an actual store that you can visit at NFB hq in baltimore. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:26 AM, ScottMarshall <marshall at blindlawyers.org> wrote:

> Hi:
> One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the DC area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not sure whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
> ~
> On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't think of anywhere else to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where those of you who reside in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is there a store for the blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the blind close by?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sun Oct 31 22:09:50 2010
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:09:50 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] stores for the blind in the D.C. Metro area?
Message-ID: <8b5.11e53305.39ff432e@aol.com>

The NFB Independence Market is open from 8-5 Mon-Fri for walk-ins as well  
as by appointment in certain circumstances.  In addition, you can purchase  
items from there via the internet by visiting _www.nfb.org_ 
(http://www.nfb.org)  or by phone by calling  410-659-9314.  My Agency has actually switched 
to the Independence Market  as our sole provider for Braille paper, 20/20 
pens, and many other items our  staff uses.  If you ask them to ship the 
item, it usually departs that same  day and arrives quickly.  My experience with 
other distributors such as the  Columbia Lighthouse and the Iowa Commission 
is that it takes about a week for  them to process the request and another 
week for it to arrive.
 
Good luck.
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2010 12:27:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
taiablas at gmail.com writes:

The  independence market does have an actual store that you can visit at 
NFB hq in  baltimore. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:26 AM,  ScottMarshall <marshall at blindlawyers.org> 
wrote:

> Hi:
>  One source in Silver Spring is the White Canes and More Store on Georgia 
 Avenue. If I can help further, please email or call me at 301-960-7477. I  
believe the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind may also have a store in the 
DC  area. There is also the NFB Independence Market in Baltimore, but am not 
sure  whether they have a store or are strictly mailorder.
> ~
> On Oct  30, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Mike Gilmore wrote:
> 
> Hi  everybody,
> 
> I know this is slightly off topic but I couldn't  think of anywhere else 
to turn (google didn't help.) I was wondering where  those of you who reside 
in D.C./northern Virginia purchase your canes. Is  there a store for the 
blind that sells canes, braille paper, etc. for the  blind close by?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike
>  
> 
> 
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