From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Feb  1 00:06:12 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:06:12 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for its accessibility?

Noel nightingale



From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Tue Feb  1 00:16:44 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:16:44 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>

Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large annotated
statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I guess
I would recommend westlaw. 

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 00:22:35 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHbeH=dgcuG+mdSTB4xtbDEnABpG=KMk5hAEoU@mail.gmail.com>

I love Westlaw, but have to admit after being forced to use it that Lexis
does work fine. If given the choice, I'd go back to using Text Only Westlaw.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:

> Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
> although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large
> annotated
> statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I guess
> I would recommend westlaw.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 <tel:+12488419405>
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 <tel:+12486522729>
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility
> or
> usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?
>
> If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
> for
> its accessibility?
>
> Noel nightingale
>
>
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From withat at msn.com  Tue Feb  1 01:29:43 2011
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:29:43 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
	<AANLkTikHbeH=dgcuG+mdSTB4xtbDEnABpG=KMk5hAEoU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP215C5EC9B4CE48A4418DA61D2E50@phx.gbl>

Hi folks,

Text only Westlaw (text.westlaw.com) is great if you already have a 
citation: very quick and convenient; however, it is severely limited in its 
functions.  Any broad research is better done on the full site; it's just 
more practical.  I have only used Westlaw Next once, and it appears at first 
glance to be more user friendly than the standard version... thank goodness! 
A note for new users to the text only Westlaw site:  you must put something, 
anything, in the Client ID box.  Without putting a character in there, it 
will not allow you to sign in.

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW


>I love Westlaw, but have to admit after being forced to use it that Lexis
> does work fine. If given the choice, I'd go back to using Text Only 
> Westlaw.
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Daniel K. Beitz 
> <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>
>> Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
>> although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large
>> annotated
>> statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I 
>> guess
>> I would recommend westlaw.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI  48307
>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 <tel:+12488419405>
>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 <tel:+12486522729>
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email 
>> messages
>> attached
>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 
>> If
>> you are
>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
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>> email
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>> copying,
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>> in
>> error,
>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or 
>> by
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
>>
>> Blindlaw listers:
>>
>> Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility
>> or
>> usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?
>>
>> If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
>> for
>> its accessibility?
>>
>> Noel nightingale
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Respectfully,
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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  1 02:04:20 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:04:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>

I think which screen reader you are using is important. I use ZoomText and
both Lexis and WestLaw are difficult to use. However, WestLaw has a text
only site and ZoomText works fine in an environment where there is only
text. As a Law student I have access to both and I always use WestLaw.

Cheers,
Dee Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From langlois2 at verizon.net  Tue Feb  1 03:38:30 2011
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:38:30 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
Message-ID: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois




From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 04:03:42 2011
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:03:42 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

   I have had opportunity to use the PDF format with the JAWS software
and it works great.  Although, there are computers users that do not
feel that this program is friendly to the people that are not familiar
with the short cut keys.
Thanks for the entry to this topic...
Darlene Olsen
1 Year Law Student
Northwestern California University School of Law


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Brian Langlois <langlois2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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-- 
Darlene Olsen


From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:27:36 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:27:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney job postings
Message-ID: <88FA9BC7268D4A4589262F7E715B320E@none8a46117901>

      * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, CRIMINAL SECTION DIRECTOR FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, GS-15 CLOSING DATE: FEBRUARY 18, 2011 11-ATT-001 Closing date February 18, 2011.  
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-att-001.htm  


"He had delusions of adequacy." 

- Walter Kerr   



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Feb  1 13:35:08 2011
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:35:08 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>

I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois



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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:37:19 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:37:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] ADA posting of interest
Message-ID: <7C74DEB7190349A3A0A52C6FB4DDC15E@none8a46117901>

For those who use a tax service to file taxes:

*A new ADA settlement agreement with H&R Block Tax Services has been added along with the January 2011 issue of Disability Rights Online News. Both are now available at: 

http://service.govdelivery.com/service/view.html?code=USDOJ_41  

 

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

- - - André Gide 

 



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:39:48 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:48 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
Message-ID: <1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>

Could someone who still uses Word 2003 please post where one can find the 
conversion     option for a PDF in the menues?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 15:01:05 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:01:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
	<1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <654608D5143A4BA1BEF6DCE0D6CD2E33@Rufus>

I'm still on Office 2003, but I don't think there was ever a conversion
option for this version.  Just the other day I was on the Microsoft website
and only found some for 2007 and 2010.  I'm hoping someone can prove me
wrong though, as it would be great.  I use Click2Convert, a paid software
that converts to PDF and HTML from most any format.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

Could someone who still uses Word 2003 please post where one 
can find the 
conversion     option for a PDF in the menues?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind 
Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will 
send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind 
of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has 
such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally 
inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Feb  1 15:05:57 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:05:57 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3E902@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

I have had the same experience with WinZoom.  I much prefer to use Text
Westlaw, even if it is overly basic at times.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Deanna Jones
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:04 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

I think which screen reader you are using is important. I use ZoomText
and
both Lexis and WestLaw are difficult to use. However, WestLaw has a text
only site and ZoomText works fine in an environment where there is only
text. As a Law student I have access to both and I always use WestLaw.

Cheers,
Dee Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the
accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Feb  1 15:07:48 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:07:48 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3E903@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

I do not know which version our office uses, but it has a built-in
reader function that even co-workers who can see without assistance like
using.  Like any such document, however, it only "reads" the portions
which are typed - anything on a PDF (ours are generally police reports)
that is handwritten does not "read".

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:39 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois



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From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Tue Feb  1 15:18:34 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:18:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
Message-ID: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>

Greetings,

                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple of
totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work without
sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: johnnyrusso at windstream.net
Thank You.


From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb  1 15:33:20 2011
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:33:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
Message-ID: <E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>

open book 9 is great for turning useless pdf files into something readable.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Feb  1 16:24:09 2011
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:24:09 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
	<E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>

I found the instructions to convert image to readable files in office 2003. Here it is below.


First make sure you have Microsoft Office 2003 installed along with the Microsoft Office Document Imaging feature (which, I believe, is installed by default,
at least with the Professional Edition of Microsoft Office 2003). Next, make sure you have either Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat installed, which you would
need anyway to read non-protected PDF files. Finally, you'll need the PDF file that you can't read through normal Adobe means.

Here's the step by step:

list of 11 items
1. Open the restricted PDF file. 
2. Press CTRL-P to print. 
3. Select the Microsoft Office Document Image Writer from the printer name combo box, and press ENTER. 
4. Enter a file name to print to. The extension should be .MDI (for Microsoft Document Imaging Format). Once the document has printed, close the PDF file.

5. Open the Microsoft Office Document Imaging utility (usually located in the Start Menu, under Programs, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Office Tools). 
6. Press CTRL-O to bring up the Open dialog. 
7. Type in the path and file name of the MDI you saved in step 5, and press ENTER. 
8. Press ALT-T for Tools. 
9. Arrow down to Send Text to Word, and press ENTER. 
10. Press ENTER to begin the conversion with the default options. If you're presented with a dialog stating, "You must re-run OCR before performing this
operation," simply confirm by selecting the OK button.
The conversion process will begin. You can use the Window-Eyes progress hot key (CTRL-INS-B by default) to interrogate the progress. 
11. Once the conversion is complete, Microsoft Word will be open (for me, it opened in the background) with the text of the PDF file available for your
perusal. Once you locate the Microsoft Word window, you can close the Microsoft Office Document Imaging utility.
list end

There are a few things to note about this process.

list of 4 items
* The results of an OCR are only as good as the OCR engine. OCR is never a complete replacement for the original text. In other words, don't expect perfect
text accuracy. 
* This process does not remove password protection. If you have a password protected PDF, you will still need to know the password to perform this task.

* If a PDF author has restricted copying text, this method will enable the OCR'd text to be copied. Acrobat itself warns about this when you enable the
copying restriction: "All Adobe products enforce the restrictions set by the Permissions Password. However, not all third-party products fully support
and respect these settings. Recipients using such third-party products might be able to bypass some of the restrictions you have set." 
* If the printing security restriction has been enabled, you cannot print the PDF, meaning you can't use this method to do what you want.
list end

Although I've been discussing this method for use with restricted PDFs, it will also work fairly well with PDFs that contain nothing but images. If you
don't have access to another utility that boasts PDF OCR capabilities, this may be a good solution for you.

For example, I took a screen shot of a web page, and created a PDF out of it; the PDF contained nothing but an image of what was on my screen. I ran it
through this process, and for the most part, the text on the web page was readable. 

PDF files, in general, are very accessible despite their enigmatic stigma. Adobe even provides their own methods of tweaking accessibility settings (i.e.
changing reading order, overriding tagged order, etc.). There's even an Accessibility Quick Check in the Acrobat Reader (even more detailed Accessibility
tools in the full Adobe Acrobat) for examining documents, and reporting problems to the PDF author.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:33 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

open book 9 is great for turning useless pdf files into something readable.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you 
>PDF files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of 
>conversion software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to 
>use it's conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to 
> blind computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 16:47:05 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:47:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger><E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
Message-ID: <DAD926FBB6BC4CDEBAAB38AA26FAA035@Rufus>

Even though PDF files are not intimidating for me, I do take other options
if they're available.  Jamal has a program which I believe converts them to
something more readable, but if I'm dealing with a massive federal
government document, I use Adobe's built-in Copy to Text feature found under
File in the menu bar.  My biggest gripe with PDF is the Search feature.
I've never quite gotten the hang of how that thing is supposed to work
correctly.  Any tips are welcomed.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 18:19:02 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:19:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger><E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
	<DAD926FBB6BC4CDEBAAB38AA26FAA035@Rufus>
Message-ID: <5C754CADFD8141A5B25BFED0CE6A312D@none8a46117901>

I echo this - I have never ben able to get the search function in Adobe 
reader to work in an easy way.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Even though PDF files are not intimidating for me, I do take other options
> if they're available.  Jamal has a program which I believe converts them 
> to
> something more readable, but if I'm dealing with a massive federal
> government document, I use Adobe's built-in Copy to Text feature found 
> under
> File in the menu bar.  My biggest gripe with PDF is the Search feature.
> I've never quite gotten the hang of how that thing is supposed to work
> correctly.  Any tips are welcomed.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Tue Feb  1 19:58:57 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA1A9BB7-E6AB-4602-9EA5-2B14FFCAEDBF@mac.com>

There is always zamzar.com to translate pdfs into text.

PDFs can be read on Macs but not edited.

Jorge


On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Darlene Olsen wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>   I have had opportunity to use the PDF format with the JAWS software
> and it works great.  Although, there are computers users that do not
> feel that this program is friendly to the people that are not familiar
> with the short cut keys.
> Thanks for the entry to this topic...
> Darlene Olsen
> 1 Year Law Student
> Northwestern California University School of Law
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Brian Langlois <langlois2 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hello, listers,
>> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
>> computer users.
>> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
>> Thanks!
>> Brian Langlois
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Darlene Olsen
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 20:02:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:02:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Case citation
Message-ID: <0F5347050A39402A800A2625D5F5609B@none8a46117901>

Can anyone on the list - with access to WestLaw or Nexis - please get me the full cite for the City of Layborn case, - All I know of it is that it is supposed to be a S. Ct. case and it involves PWD and the Federal Equal Protection clause.
Any help with the citation will be very much appreciated - 
Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From langlois2 at verizon.net  Tue Feb  1 21:45:09 2011
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:45:09 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>

So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users? 
Somewhat accessible?
I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of files, 
including PDF.
In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or 
any other graphical format.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Brian l.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Tue Feb  1 22:09:57 2011
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:09:57 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>

For the widest possible use, something other than PDF is best in my
humble opinion, probably word or text format.  The reason is that to use
the available technology for PDF, a blind person needs to have installed
Adobe version 8 or newer, and probably a screen reader of fairly recent
vintage.  Also, creating accessible PDF documents is something that
seems hard for entities to consistently get right.  All it takes is for
one person to start doing it wrong, and somehow the same error can
become widespread.  

All the above in mind, PDF is probably too popular to stop, so on web
pages a link to a current Adobe version, and perhaps a note to screen
reader users should do the trick.  The note would warn blind folks of
the need for them to have a recent Adobe and screen reader software
version.

Sincerely,
Tim Ford
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:45 PM
To: Brian Langlois; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users?

Somewhat accessible?
I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of
files, including PDF.
In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF
or any other graphical format.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Brian l.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to
blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Feb  1 22:17:31 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:17:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
Message-ID: <A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>

I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more 
information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing 
some sort of hypothesis.
Steve ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Greetings,
>
>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple of
> totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work without
> sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: johnnyrusso at windstream.net
> Thank You.
>
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From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Wed Feb  2 04:38:51 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:38:51 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
Message-ID: <001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>

Steve,
	Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular
hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My thesis will
be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is interviews.
Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and adaptive
equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use that enable them
to compete successfully alongside their sighted colleagues.  Much
information written about blindness and employment focuses legitimate
attention on discrimination.  My case study will show that blind people are
currently employed in professional fields, and they are performing their
tasks with equal levels of productivity as sighted employees.  The evidence
will go beyond answering the question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather
speak loudly that we, "are" doing our work.  The product is the important
result, the means of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to
ability and quality of performance.  
	I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to
answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations and
suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any blind
professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware of resources
that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles that discuss
employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  Thank you very much.

	
John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview

I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more
information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing
some sort of hypothesis.
Steve ----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Greetings,
>
>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M 
> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple 
> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work 
> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: 
> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 10:54:59 2011
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 05:54:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <000301cbc2c7$a3692ad0$ea3b8070$@gmail.com>

Hello everyone:
To throw something else in to the mix, has any one used successfully a PDF
portfolio file?
Apparently it is a PDF file but has multiple files contained in it.
I attended a seminar and they had available the materials on a flash drive.
There was just this one big file which is a PDF portfolio.  Using adobe 9 I
cannot access the individual documents.  I use jaws.  Not sure if there is
some technique I should be using? 



From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Wed Feb  2 11:03:06 2011
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:03:06 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
	<000301cbc2c7$a3692ad0$ea3b8070$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BC3F3CE4CAD34DE88A6F8567D846806D@GPD945>

Hello everyone.  Noting the difficulties that a lot of you are having with 
PDF documents the one suggestion I can pass on is purchasing a PDF 
converter. Not sure if American's have a Staples or a office store but they 
should have one. the converter that I purchased is called nuance PDF 
(spelled faneticly so you know how it's pronounced and not sure how they 
spell it). There are two versions - one Professional which gives the ability 
to convert word documents into PDF and the other way around or the home 
edition which only allows you to convert a PDF document into word or text 
file. that is one suggestion that I can pass on. The professional version in 
Canada runs about $112. Hope this helps and if you have any further 
questions please feel free to write me off list. I can find out what a 
couple of my lawyer friends here do.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'Brian 
Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


Hello everyone:
To throw something else in to the mix, has any one used successfully a PDF
portfolio file?
Apparently it is a PDF file but has multiple files contained in it.
I attended a seminar and they had available the materials on a flash drive.
There was just this one big file which is a PDF portfolio.  Using adobe 9 I
cannot access the individual documents.  I use jaws.  Not sure if there is
some technique I should be using?


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb  2 15:56:16 2011
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:56:16 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] state controled prices
Message-ID: <260C9A8804384C309D705872ED6F9D87@HP8730notebook>

hi,

Could anyone comment on how a state is allowed to control how much a business chargesper hour?

Say if a contract is in effect with a state agency and it says the rate is $75 per hour, how does the state have the right to tie the hands of the company by stating you cannot charge an individual/the general public less for the same service?
Not all blind people have the luxury of free assistance from rehab services for the blind and can't afford $75 per hour.

This wouldn't be much of a concern if clients were semi equally assigned to vendors but one vendor receives about 85% of all work available.

Bryan Schulz

From O'Gorman at wapa.gov  Wed Feb  2 18:08:59 2011
From: O'Gorman at wapa.gov (Sherilyn O'Gorman)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:08:59 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Western Area Power Administration EEO Job
Message-ID: <4D493B4B0200008600070064@10.1.50.131>

See attached

Sherilyn O'Gorman
EEO Specialist
720-962-7043
720-962-7041 (fax)


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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Thu Feb  3 01:26:01 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:26:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
	<001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
Message-ID: <F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>

Very interesting study.  Thank you for the explanation!  I hope you will let 
us know how we can read your thesis when it is complete.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Steve,
> Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular
> hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My thesis 
> will
> be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is interviews.
> Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and 
> adaptive
> equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use that enable 
> them
> to compete successfully alongside their sighted colleagues.  Much
> information written about blindness and employment focuses legitimate
> attention on discrimination.  My case study will show that blind people 
> are
> currently employed in professional fields, and they are performing their
> tasks with equal levels of productivity as sighted employees.  The 
> evidence
> will go beyond answering the question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather
> speak loudly that we, "are" doing our work.  The product is the important
> result, the means of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to
> ability and quality of performance.
> I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to
> answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations and
> suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any blind
> professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware of 
> resources
> that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles that discuss
> employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  Thank you very 
> much.
>
>
> John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
> I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more
> information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing
> some sort of hypothesis.
> Steve ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
>> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple
>> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work
>> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at:
>> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deele
>> y%40insightbb.com
>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Feb  3 02:39:34 2011
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:39:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Brian:

The answer to your question is it depends.  First, there is probably 
no perfect format.  If the PDF is produced properly it can and should 
be accessible.  It however, can't be an image of a page, but must 
contain text to be directly accessed.  Most PDF's are produced from 
Microsoft Word files, and if this is used, the author should employ 
"styles."  This way, when the conversion is done, the Adobe software 
knows what is text, what is a graphic, what a table, what is a list etc.

Also, recent versions of your screen reader, and Adobe Acrobat Reader 
should be used, as the tools have all improved.

There are lots of ways to product PDF's though, lots of ways to get 
text on the page, lots of elements that can be contained ... etc., 
and not all will be accessible.  Thus my answer, it depends.

Things have generally improved, but we still aren't there.

Dave

At 03:45 PM 2/1/2011, you wrote:
>So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users?
>Somewhat accessible?
>I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of files,
>including PDF.
>In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or
>any other graphical format.
>Thoughts? Suggestions?
>Brian l.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
>Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
>
> > Hello, listers,
> > For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
> > computer users.
> > I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> > Thanks!
> > Brian Langlois



From b75205 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 02:50:23 2011
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:50:23 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=WU83EJG+rrQf6qVy7HQtWKpCm47OZKRxF4WaN@mail.gmail.com>

PDF files have to be laid out correctly in order to be accessible.  The OCR
Software that comes with Adobe Acrobat ( for instance) is not very helpful
if you have two columns of text in an image of a document, you get to read
the first line of text for each column and then onwards down the page. If
you can, try to avoid PDF files for accessibility, Adobe does not want to
make any new innovations on this subject, they are not open to new ideas.
 Also the PDF standards board is run by a guy who sells the software that
the US government uses to make all of its documents so there is an interest
to keep things the way they are, don't change.

James Pepper

From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Thu Feb  3 04:05:17 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:05:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>	<001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
	<F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>
Message-ID: <000001cbc357$92093880$b61ba980$@net>

Steve,
	Thank you for your interest.  I'll keep you posted, and if you have
any information you would like to share, or people you want to recommend for
me to interview, just let me know.  Thank you again.   John Russo

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:26 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview

Very interesting study.  Thank you for the explanation!  I hope you will let
us know how we can read your thesis when it is complete.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Steve,
> Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular 
> hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My 
> thesis will be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is 
> interviews.
> Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and 
> adaptive equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use 
> that enable them to compete successfully alongside their sighted 
> colleagues.  Much information written about blindness and employment 
> focuses legitimate attention on discrimination.  My case study will 
> show that blind people are currently employed in professional fields, 
> and they are performing their tasks with equal levels of productivity 
> as sighted employees.  The evidence will go beyond answering the 
> question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather speak loudly that we, 
> "are" doing our work.  The product is the important result, the means 
> of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to ability and 
> quality of performance.
> I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to 
> answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations 
> and suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any 
> blind professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware 
> of resources that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles 
> that discuss employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
> I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more 
> information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are 
> testing some sort of hypothesis.
> Steve ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M 
>> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple 
>> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work 
>> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at:
>> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deel
>> e
>> y%40insightbb.com
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  3 19:31:04 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:31:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF electroni signatures and 508-compliance
Message-ID: <607555.77125.qm@web112409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

I've noticed that some of the 508-compliant Federal forms have a place to place an electronic signature in lieu of signing it with a pen. Is there any policy (statute, reg, etc.) that requires an electronic signature be a part of a 508-compliant PDF form?

Thanks.

Mike


      


From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb  3 20:17:19 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:17:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney  posting
Message-ID: <65D527EF37F74D4C978CEA771A9827BD@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EXECUTIVE OFFICE FOR UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS OFFICE OF THE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER ATTORNEY ADVISOR, GS-0905-15 VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO: 11-EOUSA-002 Closing date February 28, 2011 
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-eousa-002.htm 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  4 15:58:03 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:58:03 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
Message-ID: <24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>

again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file 
legal documents unless they are emancipated.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating


> Hi.
> Just had a quick question.
> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
> My question is this:
> In the form, there are two areas,
> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>
> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
> down in "organizer" and my father
> down as the "filed by" name?
>
> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 16:10:20 2011
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:10:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
Message-ID: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>

Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating


> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
> attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file 
> legal documents unless they are emancipated.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>
>
>> Hi.
>> Just had a quick question.
>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>> My question is this:
>> In the form, there are two areas,
>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>
>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>> down in "organizer" and my father
>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>
>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 21:11:58 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:11:58 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
Message-ID: <019d01cbc4b0$2a2d2140$7e8763c0$@com>

George, you might want to check on your state's Secretary of State's
website...at least that's where that information is here in Texas.  That
might be a great starting point.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:10 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating

Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating


> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
> attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file

> legal documents unless they are emancipated.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>
>
>> Hi.
>> Just had a quick question.
>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>> My question is this:
>> In the form, there are two areas,
>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>
>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>> down in "organizer" and my father
>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>
>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Fri Feb  4 23:33:36 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:33:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
Message-ID: <50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>

Well,
I want to set up my own LLC,
but I'm wondering weather I could sign my own name as the organizer and have my father under "filed by".





On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:10 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:

> Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating
> 
> 
>> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file legal documents unless they are emancipated.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> Just had a quick question.
>>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>>> My question is this:
>>> In the form, there are two areas,
>>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>> 
>>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>>> down in "organizer" and my father
>>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>> 
>>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jorge
>>> 
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Sat Feb  5 00:57:28 2011
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:57:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com><24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike><B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>
Message-ID: <66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>

Ok William, how old are you?  Are you at least 18 years of age?  If not, I 
don't see how you can legaly append your signature to such a document.  May 
be wait a few years if you are not quite 18 yet, or have your dad be the 
owner of the company you are about to set up.  Later, he can transfer full 
responsibilities to you when you turn 18.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Sat Feb  5 00:58:51 2011
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:58:51 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike><B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<019d01cbc4b0$2a2d2140$7e8763c0$@com>
Message-ID: <F80AC2E300CA49D0A47FE891165D5F51@victory>

My profound apologies.  My previous message was for George, not William! 
It's Friday, I've been picking the wrong letters pretty much all day, 
<phew>, shame on me!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Sat Feb  5 01:06:11 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:06:11 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>
	<66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>
Message-ID: <BBBAAB15-FB8D-4F93-91CD-98A698A408AE@mac.com>

Olusegun:
Nope I'm not 18 yet,
so I guesss I'll have to wait.
Or simply wait to register until I'm 18.

Thanks,


Jorge



On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:

> Ok William, how old are you?  Are you at least 18 years of age?  If not, I don't see how you can legaly append your signature to such a document.  May be wait a few years if you are not quite 18 yet, or have your dad be the owner of the company you are about to set up.  Later, he can transfer full responsibilities to you when you turn 18.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado 
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb  5 09:40:25 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:40:25 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] more on the consideration of an optional LSAT
Message-ID: <5634AFBC479A43A7B64B23F35E52EC23@spike>




The following is a lengthy article but interesting. As this is a very long link to access let me know if you have difficulty and I will forward the article off list.
Chuck

Who needs the LSAT anyway?

 
The American Bar Association is contemplating making the Law School Admissions Test voluntary rather than mandatory for accreditation.



http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202479662328&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=National%20Law%20Journal&pt=NLJ.com-%20Daily%20Headlines&cn=20110131NLJ&kw=Who%20needs%20the%20LSAT%20anyway%3F&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1

From snowball07 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 19:17:00 2011
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice Jeang)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:17:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] technology for sell
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDf3fKGV2BPZ2xY0sJJS5o2FiRLZ44qpQ9bdVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have the following items for sale:

1. Braille Note PK with Sendero GPS

2. Brailliant 40

3. Eye Pal Solo

4. Toshiba Satalite Laptop

5. Olympus DS-50

6. KNFB Reader Mobile – software only

*all prices do not include shipping and handling.
 If interested or any questions, contact janice.jeang at gmail.com


1. Braille Note PK with Sendero GPS

This unit was refurbished back in August of last year. It has the latest
firmware, as well as what was a new battery at that time. It has just been
sitting on my shelf, since I moved over to the Mac OS. The device also comes
with the BrailleNote GPS from Sendero, as well as a 16GB compact flash card,
and compact flash card reader; I will also throw in a GPS receiver if you
ask for it.

I’m asking  $2000 or best offer.

Information from the Humanware site about the device.

http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/braillenotes/_details/id_26/braillenote_pk.html



2. Brailliant 40

 Brailliant-40 braille display in perfect working order. Selling the item
because I just have not been using it, and it might as well get some use.
Included is the Brailliant, and a mini USB to USB cord, which I was last
using it to charge. Fairly certain I should have the AC charger too. Item
will come in its original box with all original paperwork.

This display works with Apple products, JAWS and Window-Eyes. This device
also works with System Access from Serotek. It does not have a keyboard for
entering text but has a keypad for issuing screen reading commands.

I am asking $1,500 or best offer.

Here is the link to the page on Humanware's website for the device.

http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/braille_displays/_details/id_34/brailliant_40.html





3. Eye Pal Solo

I am asking $1,800 or best offer.

Here is the link to the page on Abisee's website for the device.

http://www.abisee.com/products/eye-pal-solo.html



4. Toshiba Satalite Laptop

This is a used laptop recently reformatted, works perfect.

Specs:
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual T2330 @ 1.60 GHz
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Drive: 120GB
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
Screen: 15.4

Asking $350 or best offer.

Website with more specs and pictures:
http://www.clearanceclub.com/products/9307-Satellite-A205-S5810



5. Olympus DS-50

Asking $120 or best offer.

Website with more info:
http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-DS-50-Digital-voice-recorder/dp/B000MFR34Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1297017730&sr=8-2



6. KNFB Reader Mobile – software only

Asking $900 or best offer.

Website with more info: http://www.knfbreader.com/products-mobile.php

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  7 07:25:34 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:25:34 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>

If they are created properly they are accessible for blind users. they need 
to be tabbed properly. Additionally, if you are using Kurzweil or Open Book 
they can be scanned and recognized by them and read properly. There has been 
considerable improvement over the years.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  7 22:02:10 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:02:10 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <069307F66F7344A79DB449C4B27F2D19@spike>

PDF files are accessible on web sites as long as the information presented 
in them does not come from a scanned image. A while back we had an issue 
here in Fresno where city staff was scanning pdf files in to the web site 
and those weren't accessible unless someone had access to software such as 
Kurzweil or Open Book. For someone to read files directly from a web site 
they need to come from an actual document rather than a scanned image. If 
needed contact me off list and I can go in to more detail with you.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


> So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users? 
> Somewhat accessible?
> I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of 
> files, including PDF.
> In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or 
> any other graphical format.
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
> Brian l.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
>
>> Hello, listers,
>> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
>> computer users.
>> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
>> Thanks!
>> Brian Langlois
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Feb  7 23:55:18 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:55:18 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Four paralegal positions open in DC
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4F63E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  8 15:00:45 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:00:45 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
Message-ID: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>

Hello,

 

Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.

 

Thanks,

Dee Jones


From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Tue Feb  8 19:09:52 2011
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:09:52 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
Message-ID: <9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>

what does this program do? I've never heard of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud


Hello,



Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.



Thanks,

Dee Jones

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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  8 23:29:06 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:29:06 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
In-Reply-To: <9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
Message-ID: <000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>

It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program. The
academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything about
the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I would check
on this list to see if anyone was using it.

Dee

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud

what does this program do? I've never heard of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud


Hello,



Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.



Thanks,

Dee Jones

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From devinenora at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 06:33:31 2011
From: devinenora at gmail.com (Nora)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:33:31 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Zoom text question
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
	<000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
Message-ID: <85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>

I use zoom text to read my law books etc. on my computer. I would like  
to take notes on my computer while also listening to the book etc.  
being read. Is this possible with zoom text? Is there another program  
that can do this?

Thanks so much,
Nora

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>  
wrote:

> It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program.  
> The
> academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything  
> about
> the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I  
> would check
> on this list to see if anyone was using it.
>
> Dee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw- 
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>
> what does this program do? I've never heard of it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a  
> Law
> school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking  
> for any
> feedback good or bad.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dee Jones
>
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  9 12:36:37 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 04:36:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
Message-ID: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves printing them out and scanning them?

Thanks.


      

From bjsexton at comcast.net  Wed Feb  9 13:09:31 2011
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Sexton, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:09:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801cbc85a$9b0c7d90$d12578b0$@net>

Try pressing f5

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:37 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides

Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group
of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down arrow
to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves printing them
out and scanning them?

Thanks.


      
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From dale.sczweck at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 14:37:24 2011
From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:37:24 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Zoom text question
In-Reply-To: <85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
	<000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
	<85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12D9CD4E-D2C9-4C85-89AF-88EA6D814303@gmail.com>

Nora,
If you open your textbook using the doc reader you should be able to take notes while zoom text continues to read the book. I'm pretty sure this method should work for you. I hope I was able to help.

Regards,
Dale Sczweck
1004 W. Lincoln Hwy.
APT H1
DeKalb, IL. 60115
(215) 390-7918

On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Nora <devinenora at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use zoom text to read my law books etc. on my computer. I would like to take notes on my computer while also listening to the book etc. being read. Is this possible with zoom text? Is there another program that can do this?
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Nora
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program. The
>> academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything about
>> the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I would check
>> on this list to see if anyone was using it.
>> 
>> Dee
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>> 
>> what does this program do? I've never heard of it.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
>> school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
>> feedback good or bad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dee Jones
>> 
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Wed Feb  9 16:16:01 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:16:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9E2ED4710240369C2FCCAE7873D782@none8a46117901>

Yes there is a way to read Power Point slides with Jaws -- I give 
presentations with PPT all the time and it works.
In general, if you tap the F5 key, that will begin the slide show, and each 
time you tap the spacebar it should take you to the next slide.
When a slide is open, you should be able to read the text on the screen 
using the standard JAWS navigation keys.
Having said this, if there are pictures in the slide, or if someone got a 
bit carried away using tyext boxes, you may have a bit of a problem reading 
them.
Another way to read what is in the slides is to simply pull the slide show 
up, but do not "start it" - arrow to the slide you want to read, and then 
tap the enter key - this will open the slide up for editing. Don't edit 
anything, while you are in it, but you can now use the Keys to read what is 
in the slide.
Caution - the version of Power point you use may have different ways to 
access the slides, so you may need to adjust what you do according to what 
you find on the screen That is the "hidden treasure" factor.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group 
> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Feb 10 00:25:04 2011
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:25:04 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000000628655@mailfront3.g2host.com>

I think it depends on how they were made, and what is in them.  You 
can try save as, and save in an accessible format.  Sometimes f5, 
full screen helps.  Then, sometimes outline view can help.

Dave

At 06:36 AM 2/9/2011, you wrote:
>Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a 
>group of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can 
>use down arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them 
>that saves printing them out and scanning them?
>
>Thanks.




From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 12:24:50 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:24:50 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>
Message-ID: <01ad01cbc91d$84ec14d0$8ec43e70$@com>

This is true.  If you are in a firm that is scanning quite a bit, then they
have to make sure to "Scan to PDF" rather than "Scan to Image."  When they
scan as an image or .IMG file, that's when the inaccessibility comes in.  As
long as it's a .pDF, then you're fine.  I would suggest using Adobe 8.0 or
higher.  I use 8.0 at work simply for reading purposes and 9.0 Professional
for my personal use.  i like 9.0 because it will recognize a .jpg file by
recognizing the characters without having to print, re-scan and reading.

Chuck's right about the OCR technology.  Sometimes, the .IMG files can be
read by simply clicking to "Recognize with Kurzwilde."  It's a luck of the
draw with that one...especially with version 8.0.

Good luck on the PDF journey.

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:26 AM
To: Brian Langlois; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

If they are created properly they are accessible for blind users. they need 
to be tabbed properly. Additionally, if you are using Kurzweil or Open Book 
they can be scanned and recognized by them and read properly. There has been

considerable improvement over the years.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 10 20:47:06 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:47:06 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
Message-ID: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>


  * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm  

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 02:59:03 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:59:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment rate, but still! 
Just curious! 
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> 
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm  
> 
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 11 03:22:25 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:22:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
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References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
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What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of ray wayne
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a
job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
rate, but still! 
Just curious! 
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> 
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES
ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> 
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 03:38:56 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:38:56 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
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In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future paid
employment is often compensation enough.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:

> What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  <+12488419405>(248) 841-9405 <+12488419405>
> Fax:  <+12486522729>(248) 652-2729 <+12486522729>
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of ray wayne
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for
> a
> job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
> rate, but still!
> Just curious!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> >
> >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> STATES
> ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > Admitted to Practice in
> > Maine and New Hampshire
> > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > _______________________________________________
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(916) 572-2737 <+19165722737>
agtolentino at gmail.com

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 03:50:34 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:50:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
	<AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship would be more on point. 
Ray



----- Original Message -----
From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future paid
> employment is often compensation enough.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> 
> > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Daniel K. Beitz
> > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > Rochester, MI  48307
> > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 <ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages
> > attached
> > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If
> > you are
> > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
> > this
> > email
> > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
> > copying,
> > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
> > attached to
> > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication
> > in
> > error,
> > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by
> > telephoning
> > us at <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>(248) 841-9400 <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> >
> > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for
> > a
> > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
> > rate, but still!
> > Just curious!
> > Ray Wayne
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > STATES
> > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > >
> > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > bllaw mailing list
> > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > bllaw:
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> > > c.rr.com
> >
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> >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Respectfully,
> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> (916) 572-2737 <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
> agtolentino at gmail.com
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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 04:04:19 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:04:19 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
	<AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>

I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone who
is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions in
some jurisdictions.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
> would be more on point.
> Ray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
> paid
> > employment is often compensation enough.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> >
> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Daniel K. Beitz
> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > > Rochester, MI  48307
> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 <+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 <+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
> messages
> > > attached
> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.
>  If
> > > you are
> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
> > > this
> > > email
> > > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
> > > copying,
> > > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
> > > attached to
> > > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this
> communication
> > > in
> > > error,
> > > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or
> by
> > > telephoning
> > > us at <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>(248) 841-9400 <+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply
> for
> > > a
> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
> unemployment
> > > rate, but still!
> > > Just curious!
> > > Ray Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > > STATES
> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > > >
> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > bllaw mailing list
> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > > bllaw:
> > > >
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40ny
> > > > c.rr.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > uld.com<
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo%0Auld.com
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Respectfully,
> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
> > agtolentino at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
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Aser Tolentino, Esq.
(916) 572-2737
agtolentino at gmail.com

From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 04:59:51 2011
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:59:51 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67A93CE328824309BA0958F0CEE652C9@Blind>

What!  Someone blind was actually hired by the US attorney's office??  Must
have been a former law clerk for a supreme court justice.  *smile*

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Aser Tolentino
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:04 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone who
is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions in
some jurisdictions.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
> would be more on point.
> Ray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
> paid
> > employment is often compensation enough.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> >
> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Daniel K. Beitz
> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > > Rochester, MI  48307
> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405
<+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729
<+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
> messages
> > > attached
> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.
>  If
> > > you are
> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for
delivering
> > > this
> > > email
> > > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
disclosure,
> > > copying,
> > > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
> > > attached to
> > > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this
> communication
> > > in
> > > error,
> > > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email
or
> by
> > > telephoning
> > > us at <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>(248) 841-9400
<+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply
> for
> > > a
> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
> unemployment
> > > rate, but still!
> > > Just curious!
> > > Ray Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > > STATES
> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > > >
> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > bllaw mailing list
> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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> > > bllaw:
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> > > uld.com<
>
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%0Auld.com
> >
> > >
> > >
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l.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Respectfully,
> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
> > agtolentino at gmail.com
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From pattichang at att.net  Fri Feb 11 14:55:43 2011
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:55:43 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
Message-ID: <1713FB47C6C84BDAB220617887FCF927@D3J75Z91>

Actually, I have 4 or 5 attorneys working for me right now who are not being 
paid.  They want the experience while they job hunt and they hope it will 
lead to a paid position.  It also gets one a reference in a very tight 
market.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel K. Beitz" <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland


What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.


-------------------------------------------
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Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI 48307
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Fax: (248) 652-2729
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Behalf Of ray wayne
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a
job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
rate, but still!
Just curious!
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
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To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
>
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES
ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From pattichang at att.net  Fri Feb 11 14:56:53 2011
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:56:53 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF2167CC75E041A8ADFC8BCE38E4920D@D3J75Z91>

Absolutely.  City of Chicago Law Dept. probably has 20 working for us 
departmentwide right now.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland


>I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone 
>who
> is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
> to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
> experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
> volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
> constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions 
> in
> some jurisdictions.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
>> would be more on point.
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
>> paid
>> > employment is often compensation enough.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------------------------
>> > > Daniel K. Beitz
>> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> > > Rochester, MI  48307
>> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 
>> > > <+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
>> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 
>> > > <+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
>> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
>> messages
>> > > attached
>> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally 
>> > > privileged.
>>  If
>> > > you are
>> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for 
>> > > delivering
>> > > this
>> > > email
>> > > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any 
>> > > disclosure,
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>> > > <+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> > > [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
>> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or 
>> > > apply
>> for
>> > > a
>> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
>> unemployment
>> > > rate, but still!
>> > > Just curious!
>> > > Ray Wayne
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
>> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
>> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
>> > > STATES
>> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
>> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
>> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> > > > Admitted to Practice in
>> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
>> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>> > > uld.com<
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo%0Auld.com
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
>> > agtolentino at gmail.com
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 11 15:38:58 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:38:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <BF2167CC75E041A8ADFC8BCE38E4920D@D3J75Z91>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
	<BF2167CC75E041A8ADFC8BCE38E4920D@D3J75Z91>
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I'd probably do it if I were a young unemployed attorney. 


-------------------------------------------
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Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Patti Gregory-Chang
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

Absolutely.  City of Chicago Law Dept. probably has 20 working for us
departmentwide right now.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland


>I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone 
>who
> is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
> to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
> experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
> volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
> constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions 
> in
> some jurisdictions.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
>> would be more on point.
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
>> paid
>> > employment is often compensation enough.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------------------------
>> > > Daniel K. Beitz
>> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> > > Rochester, MI  48307
>> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 
>> > > <+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
>> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 
>> > > <+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
>> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
>> messages
>> > > attached
>> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally 
>> > > privileged.
>>  If
>> > > you are
>> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for 
>> > > delivering
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>> > > email
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>> > > disclosure,
>> > > copying,
>> > > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
>> > > attached to
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>> > > in
>> > > error,
>> > > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email 
>> > > or
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>> > > <+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> > > [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
>> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or 
>> > > apply
>> for
>> > > a
>> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
>> unemployment
>> > > rate, but still!
>> > > Just curious!
>> > > Ray Wayne
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
>> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
>> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
>> > > STATES
>> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
>> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
>> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> > > > Admitted to Practice in
>> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
>> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > bllaw mailing list
>> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> > > > for
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>> > >
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>> > > uld.com<
>>
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%0Auld.com
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
>> > agtolentino at gmail.com
>> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> -- 
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 11 17:53:05 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:53:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
Message-ID: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>

...and this one is being paid.
By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty offices do that sort of thing from time to time.

  * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm

"Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
----- Charles Shultz
 
Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 11 17:56:23 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:56:23 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting - North District of Illinois
Message-ID: <BB12B842E79B4993AFA7DA72F84DF838@none8a46117901>


  * ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: AUSA-NDIL-11 Position is open until filled.
  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/ausa-ndil-11.htm  

"Yep, that would be the two of us, me and Sam Colt"
--- Unknown

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Feb 12 00:44:15 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:44:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
In-Reply-To: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
References: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <20110212004415.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Gosh, somebody was willing to work without pay and live in Maine! Smile! I've never been there; I just hate the cold! 
Ray Wayne 


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To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:17
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Attorney posting

>
>
> ...disand this one is being paid.
> By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty offices do that sort of thing from time to time.
> 
>   * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
> http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm
> 
> "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
> ----- Charles Shultz
>  
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Sat Feb 12 14:34:15 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:34:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
References: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
	<20110212004415.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <EA8E711112754B9A9AC9CC43BB076BB0@none8a46117901>

                            Well, Ray, its like this,  up here in Maine 
things are "different".
For example, if you ask someone what time it is, they are likely to say 
"1776 of course"

You really need 6 different jobs to live here, - one where you work for free 
to get your foot in the door so that when a paying position opens up, you're 
first in line for it. One that you work at to try and pay the bills, and 4 
others, one for each season of the year, spring, summer, fall and winter, 
and all of which are usually paid in cash so that you can make ends meet. IF 
the state knew you were paying your bills, they'd pass ligislation to put a 
stop to it as quickly as possible.
 All kidding aside, the cost of living up here is very, very high and the 
average rate of pay is pretty darn low.
Interesting, but not unique as I unde3rstand it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting


> Gosh, somebody was willing to work without pay and live in Maine! Smile! 
> I've never been there; I just hate the cold!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:17
> Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Attorney posting
>
>>
>>
>> ...disand this one is being paid.
>> By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an 
>> uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I 
>> don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to 
>> see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty 
>> offices do that sort of thing from time to time.
>>
>>   * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 
>> CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION 
>> CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 
>> PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
>> http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm
>>
>> "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
>> ----- Charles Shultz
>>
>> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> Admitted to Practice in
>> Maine and New Hampshire
>> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Sat Feb 12 14:46:21 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:46:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. attorney posting in WDC
Message-ID: <62377243E03547CE8AFEAB9A545C8FD5@none8a46117901>

Ever notice that jobs down in Washington are NEVER "uncompensated"?

  * ATTORNEY-ADVISOR GS-905-00 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO. OIG-2011-06 WASHINGTON, DC Closing date February 15, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/oig-2011-06.htm



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 13 07:37:06 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:37:06 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6126DE5F578A46B29BA8992147420A0E@spike>

I am using the latest version of JAWS and I have no problem reading them 
usually. There are some keystrokes that work but I don't remember them off 
hand as I don't have to use Power Point that oftenl.
Chuck
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To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group 
> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 13 23:11:19 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:11:19 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <6126DE5F578A46B29BA8992147420A0E@spike>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<6126DE5F578A46B29BA8992147420A0E@spike>
Message-ID: <027f01cbcbd3$5476c940$fd645bc0$@com>

F5 takes you around PowerPoint.  That works in the older version..

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I am using the latest version of JAWS and I have no problem reading them 
usually. There are some keystrokes that work but I don't remember them off 
hand as I don't have to use Power Point that oftenl.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group

> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 14 15:28:11 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
Message-ID: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      


From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Mon Feb 14 15:53:14 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:53:14 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
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I used the right mouse click, because the context menu didn't do it. 


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Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to
find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 16:11:20 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:11:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
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Message-ID: <31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all changes
in document.

Joe

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some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Mon Feb 14 16:15:50 2011
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:15:50 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
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Wonderful!  I had always wondered how to do this step with JAWS.  Thanks
Joe!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford
 

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On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E
to turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to
Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all 
>changes
in document.

Joe

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sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
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Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to
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Mike


      

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Mon Feb 14 17:31:28 2011
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:31:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
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What are track changes?

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What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all changes
in document.

Joe

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some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

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Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Feb 14 17:41:49 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:41:49 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal
 Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 6:24 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: FW: KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA



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Subject: KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA

Attached and copied below is a position announcement for our current opening for a Research and Writing Specialist in the Tacoma office of the Federal Public Defender.

POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT

RESEARCH AND WRITING SPECIALIST
POSITION #:                2011-1-ATTY
ANNOUNCED:        February 4, 2011
CLOSES:                When Filled


        The Federal Public Defender Office for the Western District of Washington, operating under authority of the Criminal Justice Act, 18 U.S.C. 3006A  to provide defense services in federal criminal matters in the federal courts, is seeking a Research and Writing Specialist.  Applicants must be law school graduates, who have been admitted to and are in good standing with their state bars.  A minimum of two years of legal experience and knowledge of criminal law is required. Experience in habeas law and handling federal criminal cases is strongly preferred.
        The Research and Writing Specialist will provide legal research and writing services to the Defender and Assistant Defenders in support of representations for indigent defendants in federal court. These services will require computer assisted legal research, development of legal strategies, drafting of motions, briefs, petitions for certiorari and legal memoranda.
        The selection criteria will consider the following areas:
*        a commitment to the representation of the indigent accused,
*        an established capacity or a demonstrated aptitude of excellence in criminal defense practice,
*        a commitment to personal and professional integrity,
*        an established capacity of effective communication with clients, witnesses, colleagues, staff and court personnel,
*        an established capacity for timely completion of assignments and projects,
*        an established capacity for independent and collaborative work.
This job is based in the Tacoma Office and is contingent on federal funding. It is full-time position with federal salary based on qualifications and experience. The salary range is $50, 628 to $155,500. The salary will be based on education and experience consistent with federal guidelines and regulations. The position is subject to mandatory Electronic Funds Transfer (direct deposit) and includes federal benefits. Employment will be considered provisional pending the successful outcome of a background fingerprint check. Federal Public Defender attorneys may not engage in the private practice of law. Further information about the job and the office is available at http://wawfpd.org.
        Applications for this position need to contain a letter of interest, resume, and two work references (including names, addresses and telephone numbers).  Applications will only be accepted if submitted by U.S. Mail to:

Thomas W. Hillier, II
Federal Public Defender
Attn: Human Resources
1601 Fifth Avenue, Suite 700
Seattle, WA   98101

NO TELEPHONE OR E-MAIL INQUIRIES PLEASE.

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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 14 18:01:36 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:01:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney Posting for Utah
Message-ID: <D8F12269E081440A80958C6C1ECAD322@none8a46117901>

  * ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DISTRICT OF UTAH 11-UT-01 Applications must be postmarked no later than February 18, 2011.
http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/ausa-vac-anngfirerecovery302-11.htm  

"Acting is all about honesty. If you can fake that you've got it made."

- - - George Burns 

 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov  Mon Feb 14 19:11:20 2011
From: Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov (Borne, Craig D. (CMS/OEOCR))
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:11:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Senior EEO Specialist; GS 0260-11/12; Baltimore, MD;
 Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
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* * * Job Announcement * * *

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 21:41:10 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:41:10 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <A14E9ED14A3F4BDFA84052E1573F0DB0@HPLaptop>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
	<A14E9ED14A3F4BDFA84052E1573F0DB0@HPLaptop>
Message-ID: <E7B19B74EB304C91977066A7BD514E32@Rufus>

Track Changes let's you see all the modifications in a Word document,
deletions, insertions, etc.  As an editor, you can either accept or reject
each individual modification.  Note that Track Changes must be enabled for
these modifications to be visibly recorded.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What are track changes?

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[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:11 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + 
Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or 
all changes
in document.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Mon Feb 14 23:20:37 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:20:37 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] copyright regulations on sound track recordings
Message-ID: <45B52F36-C7B8-49EC-A17E-8E84A66D875E@mac.com>

Hi all:

Its Jorge writing.

Just wondering,
what are the regulations for controlling sound track rights in music stores?

For example: take the Star Wars series.

I've seen some CDs that have the "unofficial" Star Wars soundtrack, or "music inspired by…" before the movie title.

I was wondering,
would people have to pay copyright fees
in order to use the names,
just like they would in cover songs?

Or does the "unofficial/inspired by" prefixes give them exemption from this since they are only taking part of the name and it is their own work, and making it clear that it is NOT the original work,
but rather some form of it in a modified version, or simply a title that was inspired by the movie.

Thanks,

Jorge

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb 15 21:24:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:24:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
Message-ID: <CD7DBA1018EA4058A161D4E32A825A81@none8a46117901>

Has anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the affordable health care act?
That is, in a format other than PDF?

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov  Tue Feb 15 21:39:46 2011
From: Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov (Reyazuddin, Yasmin)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:39:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
In-Reply-To: <CD7DBA1018EA4058A161D4E32A825A81@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <C44CB32B3B29804C9CF73E0B85AB130205601874@MCG-EXB04.mcgov.org>

You can try to find it on the Library of Congress website under Thomas 
www.loc.gov/thomas. 


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On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:25 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act


Has anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the
affordable health care act? That is, in a format other than PDF?

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Wed Feb 16 12:39:38 2011
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:39:38 EST
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
Message-ID: <95440.73e7d15c.3a8d1f8a@aol.com>

It's posted on the Department of Health and Human Services website.   
_www.hhs.gov_ (http://www.hhs.gov) .  It's under "Affordable Care  Act" if you do 
a search.
 
Thomas also has it.
 
 
In a message dated 2/15/2011 4:28:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rumpole at roadrunner.com writes:

Has  anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the 
affordable  health care act?
That is, in a format other than PDF?

Ross A. Doerr  Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct.  Admission: ME.  N.H.
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 16 14:50:02 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:50:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] editing power point slides
Message-ID: <120959.42525.qm@web112413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

When I open a power point document, it gives me the slide number and its corresponding title. How do I edit a specific slide?


      


From LBlake at nfb.org  Wed Feb 16 15:03:21 2011
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:03:21 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
Message-ID: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>

Don't Miss the Opportunity to hear Assistant Secretary of Education for Civil Rights Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary of Labor for Disability Employment Policy Kathleen Martinez, and EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum

at the

2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium

Bridging the Gap between the Disability Rights Movement and Other Civil Rights Movements

April 14-15, 2011
at the
National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute
Baltimore, Maryland

The 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss issues such as how to translate what worked for the civil rights movements to the disability rights movement, how the disability community can learn to speak with one voice while respecting and maintaining its diversity, and how to erase the misconception that disability rights is not a civil rights issue.

2011 plenary session presenters:


 *   Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights
 *   Ruth Colker, Distinguished University Professor and Heck Faust Memorial Chair in Constitutional Law, Ohio State University Moritz College of Law
 *   Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law
 *   Wade Henderson, President and CEO, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
 *   Scott C. LaBarre, Esquire, LaBarre Law Offices P.C.
 *   Kathleen Martinez, Assistant Secretary, Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy
 *   Marc Maurer, President, National Federation of the Blind
 *   Shannon Price Minter, Legal Director, National Center for Lesbian Rights
 *   Larry Paradis, Executive Director, Disability Rights Advocates
 *   Howard Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer (Designate), National Association of the Deaf
 *   Lynn Hecht Schafran, Senior Vice President and Director, National Judicial Education Program, Legal Momentum

2011 workshop facilitators:


 *   Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division
 *   Michael W. Bien, Managing Partner, Rosen, Bien & Galvan LLP
 *   Peter Blanck, University Professor and Chair, The Burton Blatt Institute
 *   Ella Callow, Legal Program Director, The National Center for Parents with Disabilities and their Families
 *   Kevin Cremin, Director of Disability and Public Benefits Law, Legal Services NYC
 *   Brian East, Senior Attorney, Advocacy, Inc.
 *   Leslie Ellis, Jury Consultant, TrialGraphix
 *   Donald Freedman, Partner, Rosenberg, Freedman & Goldstein LLP
 *   Douglas Kruse, Director, PhD program in Labor Relations and Human Resources, Rutgers University School of Management and Labor Relations
 *   Janet Lord, Senior Partner, BlueLaw International
 *   Laura Rovner, Associate Professor of Law, University of Denver Sturm College of Law
 *   Jo Anne Simon, Esquire
 *   Michael Waterstone, J. Howard Ziemann Fellow and Professor of Law, Loyola Law School

The theme keynote speaker will be Commissioner Chai Feldblum, United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Documentation for CLE credits will be provided.

Registration fee: $175
Student registration fee: $25

A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need.

To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp.  You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax.  Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site.

For additional information, contact:

Lou Ann Blake, JD
Law Symposium Coordinator
Jacobus tenBroek Library
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, Maryland 21230
Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221
E-mail: lblake at nfb.org<mailto:lblake at nfb.org>



From dricken at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 11:51:48 2011
From: dricken at gmail.com (Kendrick Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:51:48 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 13:51:52 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:51:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57653D1776D34668898E4736076999C6@none8a46117901>

    In my view, they are not correct.
I have found that billing hours and file numbers through a form created in, 
for example, Excel, is very, very easy to do.
I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but use of an excel format is easy 
to produce and customize and will be able to do almost everything a firm 
could ask for.
If you want a sample form, contact me off list and I will share the one I 
used for 5 years with you.
An excel format over one of those massive, expensive firm billing programs 
is arguably a "reasonable accommodation".
Don't go "government job"  unless you really want to.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From rfarber at jw.com  Thu Feb 17 15:01:44 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:01:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>

Kendrick - 

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Thu Feb 17 15:04:54 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:04:54 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
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It might depend on whether the firm in question is going to a to a
computer-based case management / billable hours system, like my office
(a government agency) will be this fall.  The program selected by the
administration is most definitely NOT fully accessible, as my direct
supervisor and I found out when she tried to run the demo version on my
computer - it will magnify, but it will not narrate, and has many
"hidden" areas that would need to be tweaked in order for any narration
program to work.  Moreover, because of the amount of information on each
screen, the narrator is necessary even for a person like me with some
residual vision.  Once in place, the system will be almost the exclusive
manner for accessing electronic files and disclosure, and the only
acceptable way to track our work hours, something that even government
jobs require in many counties.  Administration promises to work on this
design, but I fear they will require me to work with an assistant,
essentially forcing me to be a passive by-stander.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

    In my view, they are not correct.
I have found that billing hours and file numbers through a form created
in, 
for example, Excel, is very, very easy to do.
I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but use of an excel format is
easy 
to produce and customize and will be able to do almost everything a firm

could ask for.
If you want a sample form, contact me off list and I will share the one
I 
used for 5 years with you.
An excel format over one of those massive, expensive firm billing
programs 
is arguably a "reasonable accommodation".
Don't go "government job"  unless you really want to.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working
at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment
they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and
alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour
system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that
is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From rfarber at jw.com  Thu Feb 17 15:15:36 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:15:36 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs
Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>

All -

My firm presently uses DocsOpen for document management.  While it is not the most friendly system, I can use it.  Later this year the firm is switching to IDocs.  Has anyone had experience with using Jaws and IDocs?

Randy

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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 17 16:15:13 2011
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:15:13 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009d01cbcebd$dc36a2a0$7201a8c0@server>

Hello Kendrick,
I don't fully understand the nature of the law firms concern and billable 
hours.  Were they saying that you work more slowly than your sighted 
colleagues, or that there was some problem with you tracking your time?  If 
you could provide some more details it would be helpful.  Please feel free 
to respond on or off list.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


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Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:01:28 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:01:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs
In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D56D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Randy:

I have no experience with IDocs but will be quite interested to here if it is accessible.  If no one on this list has experience with IDocs, I suggest you contact the technology experts at the NFB  office in Baltimore, (410) 659-9314.

Noel


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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:16 AM
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Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs

All -

My firm presently uses DocsOpen for document management.  While it is not the most friendly system, I can use it.  Later this year the firm is switching to IDocs.  Has anyone had experience with using Jaws and IDocs?

Randy



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:03:44 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:03:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney
 vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D571@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation (Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments (Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities.  Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants.  Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions.  Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board.  Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view and/or access publicly available information about you, including information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss (202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
US
Fax: 202-514-6603



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:04:39 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:04:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney
 vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D573@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>





_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation (Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments (Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities.  Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants.  Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions.  Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board.  Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view and/or access publicly available information about you, including information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss (202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
US
Fax: 202-514-6603



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 21:06:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:06:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty - Civil Rights Div. Chief
Message-ID: <B481C9EABF3D45DE924BE54EF6B946E3@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION CHIEF, ES-0905 (SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE CLOSING DATE: MARCH 10, 2011 11-SES-CRD-001.  
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm  

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From devinenora at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 21:12:23 2011
From: devinenora at gmail.com (Nora Devine)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:12:23 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at
> a
> defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
> that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
> use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and
> alterative
> techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
> plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
> Criminal Appeals Clinic
> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
> The University of Mississippi Law School
>
> P.O. Box 2006
> University, MS 38677
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Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 21:22:10 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:22:10 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief
	Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D573@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <9434A152AE08492BB97C6FE3AE4CF529@none8a46117901>

Sorry Noel, I didn't realize you'd posted that Civil Rights Division job 
before I did.
Sorry for the dual posting folks.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney 
vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001






_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 
11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

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The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing 
attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the 
rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the 
Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination 
on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public 
accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, 
health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation 
(Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments 
(Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government 
employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes 
architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and 
alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title 
III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities. 
Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State 
law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department 
establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum 
requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison 
to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible 
for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the 
Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and 
the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights 
Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, 
approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support 
employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and 
implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and 
oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to 
enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the 
ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business 
Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information 
Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and 
review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the 
applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including 
drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, 
and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants. 
Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed 
monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil 
Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section 
matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions. 
Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues 
including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public 
on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the 
federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to 
enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and 
oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable 
statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent 
decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, 
including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the 
preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain 
regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests 
from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes 
are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide 
technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model 
access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability 
rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to 
the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum 
accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board. 
Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local 
governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with 
disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of 
the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA 
Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current 
information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours 
and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the 
executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior 
Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this 
position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) 
Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both 
the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will 
adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong 
possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined 
below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and 
creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five 
Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how 
often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, 
the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues 
you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and 
tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer 
professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance 
specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and 
implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build 
coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to 
effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, 
and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and 
written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory 
provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar 
Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about 
strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet 
organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the 
ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a 
continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people 
toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to 
this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive 
workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation 
and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet 
organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive 
Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce 
high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, 
and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage 
human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build 
coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local 
governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign 
governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of 
Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and 
the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: 
http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have 
had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as 
part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that 
includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life 
insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees 
Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently 
offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of 
travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication 
of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and 
persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which 
screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, 
including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 
213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, 
missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, 
mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. 
Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform 
the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable 
accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the 
questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For 
additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted 
disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program 
Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal 
Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also 
http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and 
http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view 
and/or access publicly available information about you, including 
information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and 
consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel 
practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. 
No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an 
applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, 
commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or 
other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for 
Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 
1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this 
position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, 
or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service 
Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary 
payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their 
choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for 
Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless 
otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may 
apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that 
appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments 
would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission 
and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold 
dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a 
case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department 
of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and 
encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where 
otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an 
applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, 
marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, 
status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee 
organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of 
Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and 
mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its 
affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that 
persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on 
the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides 
reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. 
If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and 
hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable 
Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss 
(202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will 
be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or 
posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting 
and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the 
organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security 
investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for 
Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless 
otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may 
apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that 
appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments 
would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission 
and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold 
dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a 
case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to 
attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of 
Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in 
attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include 
that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting 
documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from 
Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. 
Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to 
claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 
10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation 
required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, 
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the 
types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). 
Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation 
associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of 
nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in 
the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement 
orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement 
was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was 
transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or 
retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject 
to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it 
will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the 
vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will 
be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive 
full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail 
their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit 
your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to 
CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via 
e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title 
in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if 
specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most 
recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, 
along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal 
government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations 
and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
US
Fax: 202-514-6603


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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:34:45 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:34:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Deputy Regional Manager Supervisory Equal Opportunity
 Specialist - DHHS
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D58D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>


http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=96772443&JobTitle=Deputy+Regional+Manager+Supervisory+Equal+Opportunity+Specialist&q=&where=Seattle%2c+WA&brd=3876&vw=b&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&x=113&y=0&pg=3&re=4&AVSDM=2011-02-11+14%3a38%3a00#duties

Job Title: Deputy Regional Manager Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist
Department: Department Of Health And Human Services
Agency: Office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services
Job Announcement Number: HHS-OS-DE-11-433449

SALARY RANGE:

$103,169.00 - $134,118.00 /year

OPEN PERIOD:

Friday, February 11, 2011 to Friday, February 25, 2011

SERIES & GRADE:

GS-0360-14

POSITION INFORMATION:

Full Time Career/Career Conditional

DUTY LOCATIONS:

1 vacancy - Seattle, WA

WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:

United States Citizens


JOB SUMMARY:
Become a part of the Department that touches the lives of every American! At the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) you can give back to your community, state, and country by making a difference in the lives of Americans everywhere. It is the principal agency for protecting the health of citizens. Join HHS and help to make our world healthier, safer, and better for all Americans.
This position is located in the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Office of the Secretary (OS), Office for Civil Rights (OCR).
This vacancy is also being announced concurrently with vacancy announcement HHS-OS-MP-11-433455 under merit promotion procedures. Please review that announcement to see if you are eligible for consideration under merit promotion procedures. NOTE: Applicants must apply separately for each announcement in order to be considered.
PHS Commissioned Corps Officers interested in performing the duties of this position within the Commissioned Corps (not as a career/career-conditional employee) are encouraged to apply under the merit promotion announcement indicated above.
Additional selections may be made from this announcement.


KEY REQUIREMENTS:

 *   U.S. Citizenship is required.



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Duties
Additional Duty Location Info:

1 vacancy - Seattle, WA


Directs the regional staff ranging from grades GS-2 through GS-14 engaging in civil rights and Privacy Rule work, in implementing an effective plan for civil rights and privacy of health information compliance programs in health and human services institutions and systems in the region and for headquarters.

Makes final decision on problems growing out of activities that subordinates cannot resolve because of precedent-setting nature or sensitivity, also resolves differences between key subordinates on important program matters

Advises the Regional Manager on the adequacy and effectiveness and of existing Departmental policies and programs for promoting compliance and participants in the formulation of major changes in Departmental policies.

Provides advice and information to the Regional Manager and Regional Operating Divisions and Staff Division personnel on civil rights and health privacy policy development and interpretation affecting their areas of responsibility; alerting them when major compliance action and publicity has the potential for impact on Departmental program activity.


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Qualifications and Evaluations
QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:
FOR THE GS-14:  You must have at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-13 or equivalent.  Specialized experience is defined as particular competencies/knowledge, skills and abilities to successfully perform the duties of the position and is typically in or related to the duties of the position and is typically in or related to the work of the position to be filled.
Examples of specialized experience includes:
Experience directing a multifaceted program involving highly technical and critical agency policy and regulatory programs

Experience providing guidance and direction to the staff resulting in a technical and operationally effective program that completes the office investigative responsibilities in identifying defects, problems and weaknesses in the compliance and enforcement process of the agency

Experience working with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), and implementing the Privacy Rule.

Foreign Education: If you are using education completed in foreign colleges or universities to meet the qualification requirements, you must show that the education credentials have been evaluated by a private organization that specializes in interpretation of foreign education programs and such education has been deemed equivalent to that gained in an accredited U.S. education program; or full credit has been given for the courses at a U.S. accredited college or university. For further information, visit: http://www.ed.gov/.

Conditions of Employment:
1. Security and Background Requirements: If not previously completed, a background security investigation will be required for all appointees. Appointment will be subject to the applicant's successful completion of a background security investigation and favorable adjudication. Failure to successfully meet these requirements may be grounds for appropriate personnel action. In addition, if hired, a background security reinvestigation or supplemental investigation may be required at a later time. Applicants are also advised that all information concerning qualifications is subject to investigation. False representation may be grounds for non-consideration, non-selection and/or appropriate disciplinary action.
2. E-Verify: If you are selected for this position, the documentation that you present for purposes of completing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Form I-9 will be verified through the DHS "E-Verify" System. Federal law requires DHS to use the E-Verify System to verify employment eligibility of all new hires, and as a condition of continued employment obligates the new hire to take affirmative steps to resolve any discrepancies identified by the system. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is an E-Verify Participant.
3. Direct Deposit: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.
4. All qualification requirements must be met by the closing date of the announcement.
5. Financial disclosure statement may be required.
6. One-year probationary period may be required.
7. Travel, transportation, and relocation expenses will not be paid.
8. Bargaining Unit Position: No
9. Drug Screening Required: No
10. Recruitment Bonus may be authorized:  No
11. Travel Required: Yes, 5% Domestic

HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED:

Once the application process is complete, a review of resume and supporting documentation will be made and compared against your responses to the assessment questionnaire to determine if you are qualified for this job.  If, after reviewing your resume and or supporting documentation, a determination is made that you have inflated your qualifications and or experience, you may lose consideration for this position.  Please follow all instructions carefully. Errors or omissions may affect your eligibility.  Qualified candidates will be assigned to a quality category (Best-Qualified, Well-Qualified, and Qualified).  The category assignment is a measure of the degree in which your background matches the competencies required for this position.

Qualified candidates assigned to a category are not given numeric ratings (scores); therefore, preference eligibles receive points, as prescribed by 5 U.S.C. § 3309.
Your qualifications will be evaluated on the following competencies (knowledge, skills, abilities and other characteristics):

Knowledge of the concepts, principles, and methods of civil rights laws, policies and/or related issues related to program delivery.

Ability to oversee staff who investigates complaints, conducts compliance reviews and provides technical assistance and outreach to health and human services institutional and its agencies.

Skilled in obtaining personal contacts with professional, government, community and political leaders in the Region.

Ability to exercise leadership and provide guidance and direction to staff resulting in a technical and operational effective program that completes the office investigative responsibilities in identifying defects, problems, and or weaknesses in the compliance and enforcement process.



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Benefits and Other Info

BENEFITS:
The Federal Government offers a comprehensive benefits package. Explore the major benefits offered to most Federal employees at http://www.usajobs.gov/ei/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:
If you are a veteran with preference eligibility and you are claiming 5-points veterans' preference, you must submit a copy of your DD-214 or other proof of eligibility. If you are claiming 10-point veterans' preference, you must also submit an SF-15, "Application for 10-Point Veterans' Preference" plus the proof required by that form. For more information on veterans' preference see http://www.usajobs.gov/veterans.asp.
Males born after December 31, 1959 must be registered or exempt from Selective Service (see http://www.sss.gov<http://www.sss.gov/>).
For information on "People with Disabilities" please visit http://opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp
Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program (ICTAP):  For information on how to apply as an ICTAP eligible see http://opm.gov/rif/employee_guides/career_transition.asp#ictap.  To be well-qualified and exercise selection priority for this vacancy, displaced Federal employees must be rated at 85.0 or above on the rating criteria for this position.


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How To Apply

HOW TO APPLY:
To begin the process, click the Apply Online button to create an account or log in to your existing USAJOBS account. Follow the prompts to complete the assessment questionnaire. Please ensure you click the Submit My Answers button at the end of the process.

Note: To return to a previously Saved or Incomplete application you may use the following link: https://applicationmanager.gov/.

To fax supporting documents you are unable to upload, complete this cover page http://staffing.opm.gov/pdf/usascover.pdf using the following Vacancy ID DF433449.  Fax your documents to 1-478-757-3144.

If you cannot apply online:

 1.  Click the following link to view and print the assessment questionnaire View Occupational Questionnaire<https://ApplicationManager.gov/Questionnaire.aspx?ID=4099091&PreviewType=Questionnaire>, and
 2.  Print this 1203FX form to provide your response to the assessment questionnaire http://www.opm.gov/forms/pdfimage/opm1203fx.pdf and
 3.  Fax the completed 1203FX form along with any supporting documents to 1-478-757-3144. Your 1203FX will serve as a cover page for your fax transmission.
The following documents are required and must be received by the closing date of this announcement:
1. Your Resume'
2. A complete Assessment Questionnaire
3. Other supporting documents:
    - Veterans Preference Documentation, if applicable
    - College transcript, if applicable
For Resume' and Application Tips visit: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/resumeandapplicationtips.asp#icc

REQUIRED DOCUMENTS:

To apply for this position, you must provide a complete Application Package which includes:

1. Your Résumé
2. A complete Assessment Questionnaire
3. Other supporting documents:
         - Veterans Preference Documentation, if applicable
              - College Transcripts, if applicable

Note: You may submit an unofficial transcript or a list of college courses completed indicating course titles, credit hours, and grades received. An official transcript from an accredited educational institution is required if you are selected for the position.

The complete Application Package must be submitted by 11:59 PM (EST) on Friday, February 25, 2011.


AGENCY CONTACT INFO:
Bethesda Center Helpdesk
Phone: (888)478-4340
Fax: (478)757-3144
Email: QUICKQUESTIONS at PSC.GOV

Agency Information:
OHR Bethesda Operations Center
7700 Wisconsin Ave
Bethesda, MD 20814
Fax: (478)757-3144


WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT:
Once the online questionnaire is received you will receive an acknowledgement email that your submission was successful. The most highly qualified candidates will be referred to the hiring manager for further consideration and possible interview. We expect to make a selection within 45 days of the closing date of this announcement.

You will receive notice via email or by mail, if no email address was provided by you during the application process, once this process is completed (generally 4-6 weeks).

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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Thu Feb 17 22:43:23 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:43:23 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <322CB0AAAC8645CAAA48E9605A7C8B93@DanielKBeitzPC>

What they are telling you is wrong.  There is no reason you can't work in
the private sector.  I have done so for 18 years, billable hours and all.
People have bizarre perceptions about what a blind person can do, and you
can't listen to them.  If you are hard working, a good attorney and willing
to put in some extra time on occasion, you can make it.  But you must be
very efficient, and be aware of the technology that is out there, and know
how to use it thoroughly. 


-------------------------------------------
Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
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Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nora Devine
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:12 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and 
> working at a defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they 
> work at a firm that uses the billable hour format and what techniques 
> and equipment they use in their office to make things more efficient 
> completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and 
> alterative techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the 
> billable hour system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm 
> that is plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
> Criminal Appeals Clinic
> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of 
> Mississippi Law School
>
> P.O. Box 2006
> University, MS 38677
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--
Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Thu Feb 17 23:16:57 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:16:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
	<3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
Message-ID: <8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>

As a non-lawyer, why can't your assistant plug in the hours you work on a 
client's case
Steve?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farber, Randy" <rfarber at jw.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Kendrick -

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many 
techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as 
efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to 
address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more 
detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a 
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm 
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they 
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative 
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is 
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of 
Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 18 01:42:39 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:42:39 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com><3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
	<8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>
Message-ID: <2F1A2F2DB42243E885C9488EB733E5D8@DanielKBeitzPC>

I had my secretary do that when I got out of school.  Its easy for them.
You can type your time in a word document or dictate it, and tey type it in.



-------------------------------------------
Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
Fax:  (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:17 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

As a non-lawyer, why can't your assistant plug in the hours you work on a
client's case Steve?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farber, Randy" <rfarber at jw.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Kendrick -

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many
techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as
efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to
address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more
detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of
Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 20 17:12:17 2011
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:12:17 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] fun test
Message-ID: <006901cbd121$5449a6b0$7201a8c0@server>

Hello everyone,
I just received an email from some sort of attorney marketing firm.  They included the following questions for fun, to see how alert one is or isn't.
Best,
Dennis

1)  Is there a 4th of July in England?
2)  How many birthdays does an average man have?
3)  Some months have 31 days; how many have 28?
4)  If there are 3 apples and you take away 2, how many do you have?
5)  How many animals of each sex did Moses take on the ark?

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 21 10:20:35 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:20:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
In-Reply-To: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>
References: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>
Message-ID: <C45DC8751B0441F888F9CF6CC88221A5@spike>

any movement toward web casting this event?
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blake, Lou Ann" <LBlake at nfb.org>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium


> Don't Miss the Opportunity to hear Assistant Secretary of Education for 
> Civil Rights Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary of Labor for Disability 
> Employment Policy Kathleen Martinez, and EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum
>
> at the
>
> 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
>
> Bridging the Gap between the Disability Rights Movement and Other Civil 
> Rights Movements
>
> April 14-15, 2011
> at the
> National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute
> Baltimore, Maryland
>
> The 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium will consist of plenary 
> sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, 
> practitioners, and advocates who will discuss issues such as how to 
> translate what worked for the civil rights movements to the disability 
> rights movement, how the disability community can learn to speak with one 
> voice while respecting and maintaining its diversity, and how to erase the 
> misconception that disability rights is not a civil rights issue.
>
> 2011 plenary session presenters:
>
>
> *   Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of Education Office 
> for Civil Rights
> *   Ruth Colker, Distinguished University Professor and Heck Faust 
> Memorial Chair in Constitutional Law, Ohio State University Moritz College 
> of Law
> *   Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington 
> College of Law
> *   Wade Henderson, President and CEO, The Leadership Conference on Civil 
> and Human Rights
> *   Scott C. LaBarre, Esquire, LaBarre Law Offices P.C.
> *   Kathleen Martinez, Assistant Secretary, Department of Labor, Office of 
> Disability Employment Policy
> *   Marc Maurer, President, National Federation of the Blind
> *   Shannon Price Minter, Legal Director, National Center for Lesbian 
> Rights
> *   Larry Paradis, Executive Director, Disability Rights Advocates
> *   Howard Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer (Designate), National 
> Association of the Deaf
> *   Lynn Hecht Schafran, Senior Vice President and Director, National 
> Judicial Education Program, Legal Momentum
>
> 2011 workshop facilitators:
>
>
> *   Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General, U.S. 
> Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division
> *   Michael W. Bien, Managing Partner, Rosen, Bien & Galvan LLP
> *   Peter Blanck, University Professor and Chair, The Burton Blatt 
> Institute
> *   Ella Callow, Legal Program Director, The National Center for Parents 
> with Disabilities and their Families
> *   Kevin Cremin, Director of Disability and Public Benefits Law, Legal 
> Services NYC
> *   Brian East, Senior Attorney, Advocacy, Inc.
> *   Leslie Ellis, Jury Consultant, TrialGraphix
> *   Donald Freedman, Partner, Rosenberg, Freedman & Goldstein LLP
> *   Douglas Kruse, Director, PhD program in Labor Relations and Human 
> Resources, Rutgers University School of Management and Labor Relations
> *   Janet Lord, Senior Partner, BlueLaw International
> *   Laura Rovner, Associate Professor of Law, University of Denver Sturm 
> College of Law
> *   Jo Anne Simon, Esquire
> *   Michael Waterstone, J. Howard Ziemann Fellow and Professor of Law, 
> Loyola Law School
>
> The theme keynote speaker will be Commissioner Chai Feldblum, United 
> States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
>
> Documentation for CLE credits will be provided.
>
> Registration fee: $175
> Student registration fee: $25
>
> A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be 
> available to individuals with demonstrated financial need.
>
> To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, 
> view the agenda, and register online, please visit 
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp.  You may also download from this 
> Web site a registration form to mail or fax.  Hotel information is also 
> available on the symposium Web site.
>
> For additional information, contact:
>
> Lou Ann Blake, JD
> Law Symposium Coordinator
> Jacobus tenBroek Library
> Jernigan Institute
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
> 200 East Wells Street
> at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221
> E-mail: lblake at nfb.org<mailto:lblake at nfb.org>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 22 08:11:12 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:11:12 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <423EC1930C414EFFA02B7DFBB3C55714@spike>

There are various billing programs out there that address this issue. As a 
paralegal while I haven't been directly involved with this issue for some 
time I found that some of these programs were accessible with screen reading 
software when testing them several years ago when I was in paralegal school. 
The question here is what billing program is the firm in question using to 
keep track of its hours. Most of the manufacturers will provide trial 
versions so you can explore the accessibility of the programs with screen 
reading or other types of adaptive software.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
_______________________________________________
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From tanyawilliams23 at aol.com  Tue Feb 22 16:10:47 2011
From: tanyawilliams23 at aol.com (Tanya Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:10:47 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation
Message-ID: <B24D282A-977D-4CA0-9105-BA1A956381C7@aol.com>

Hello everyone,
I recently joined this mailing list and was wondering if any of y'all could be speak from experience when it comes to studying for the LSAT.
If you could tell me what study material you used and if you used a private tutor. Any info would help me. Feel free to contact me off the mailing list.
Best,
Tanya

Sent from my iPhone 

From withat at msn.com  Tue Feb 22 16:35:01 2011
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:35:01 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation
References: <B24D282A-977D-4CA0-9105-BA1A956381C7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP192EB74691AE6A275FE4E68D2D80@phx.gbl>

Hi Tanya,

I used two sources.  1. Kaplan over-the-counter text.  I used a readr to 
help me with it.  2. A Kaplan private tutor.  It was spendy (over a thousand 
dollars for the time package I chose), but without it I wouldn't have earned 
a score that would have given me admission.  The tutoring package included 
the same texts that come with their classroom classes, which are very 
helpful: hundreds or even thousands of questions from former LSATs.  After 
not too much effort they provided me the texts in PDF format.  The tutor 
came to my house, which was very helpful.  It included the online lectures 
but they are in flash, so almost useless with a screen reader.

The other difference-maker was hiring a company named Admissions 
Consultants.  Give their website a look.  It is another expensive company, 
but their consultants are former admissions workers- unlike the people at 
Kaplan.  Mine was the former Dean of Admissions at the U of Penn Law School 
(Ivy League).

You'll find that dealing with LSAC and their accomodations office will be a 
bigger chore than prepping for the exam itself.  They have been sued by the 
NFB and I think the ACB.  A California attorney was suing on behalf of a law 
student or LS applicant a couple years ago; I'm not sure the status of that.

Good luck.  Give me a mail off list if you have any questions.

Jay
jayjohnston at lclark.edu
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tanya Williams" <tanyawilliams23 at aol.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation


> Hello everyone,
> I recently joined this mailing list and was wondering if any of y'all 
> could be speak from experience when it comes to studying for the LSAT.
> If you could tell me what study material you used and if you used a 
> private tutor. Any info would help me. Feel free to contact me off the 
> mailing list.
> Best,
> Tanya
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 23 04:32:03 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:32:03 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFA4D190980A4CB5B79434CCF4DB7CE9@spike>

based on my experiences working in several fields I have found that career 
counselors don't have a clue as to how blind people can adapt and over the 
years some of the worst have been with agencies serving the blind or blind 
themselves. the problem with many career counselors is they deal with 
hypothetical situations and hypothetical people. With much ingenuity and 
individual adaptation this issue and others can be dealt with.
Chuck
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To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at
> a
> defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
> that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
> use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and
> alterative
> techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour 
> system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that 
> is
> plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
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> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
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>
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 24 17:49:53 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:49:53 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney Posting for Eastern California
Message-ID: <172D89E31BED401BB3E19F19CF8415E0@none8a46117901>

  * UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EASTERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY FRESNO, CALIFORNIA FEBRUARY 24, 2011 11-EDCA-10A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 11, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/sausaad11-edca-10a.htm 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 25 23:21:03 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:21:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney postings - Iowa and Illinois
Message-ID: <94F50CFB51EB470BA726C8B6CADA311D@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF U.S. TRUSTEES REGION 12 DES MOINES, IA TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-12/13 ANNOUNCEMENT NO. R12-IA-11001 Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked by the closing date of March 25, 2011. [ http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/oarmvacannattydesmo11.htm ] 
  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE U.S. TRUSTEE PROGRAM REGION 11 - CHICAGO, ILLINOIS (1) TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-13/14/15 VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT #BSATTY-1124-VF Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked no later than midnight March 14, 2011.  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/chitrialattornbsattyvfIntern.htm ] 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 26 03:40:34 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:40:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Virtual Paralegal Services
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 28 14:52:53 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:52:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] practicing in front of Native American tribal courts?
Message-ID: <605698.113.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'm drafting a regulation for the feds and a comment was received regarding tribal courts. My question is: Do you have to be licensed to practice in front of a tribal court? If so, by whom? Is there a Native American tribal bar exam akin to state exams? Any information will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Mike


      


From agtolentino at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 15:04:29 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:04:29 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] practicing in front of Native American tribal courts?
In-Reply-To: <605698.113.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <605698.113.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9cmtbfsjWRSGUVtu_3hzcUiKxaE=1ds_87NG7@mail.gmail.com>

Licensing requirements surely vary between the tribes, each being a distinct
sovereignty. For instance, from a job announcement I saw a while back, I
know that the Navajo Nation has a bar exam.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Mike Gilmore <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm drafting a regulation for the feds and a comment was received regarding
> tribal courts. My question is: Do you have to be licensed to practice in
> front of a tribal court? If so, by whom? Is there a Native American tribal
> bar exam akin to state exams? Any information will be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 28 21:40:18 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:40:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
Message-ID: <38F668FDBF774863B37B18156CBDC9D5@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE U.S. TRUSTEE PROGRAM REGION 20 WICHITA, KANSAS (1) TRIAL ATTORNEY GS-905-12/13/14/15 ANNOUNCEMENT NO. FY11-01 Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked by the closing date of March 14, 2011.  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/trialattywichitafy11-01.htm 

_______________________________________
Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 23:32:29 2011
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:32:29 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] hot docs
Message-ID: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has experience with this document creation program?
My firm is exploring the use of hot docs for generating pleadings, motions
and the likes.




From rfarber at jw.com  Mon Feb 28 23:51:34 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:51:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hot docs
In-Reply-To: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>
References: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2018FE99002@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>

I have not used Hot Docs itself.  It is a system used to create forms.  My understanding is that it is quite expensive. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:32 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] hot docs

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has experience with this document creation program?
My firm is exploring the use of hot docs for generating pleadings, motions and the likes.



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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Feb  1 00:06:12 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:06:12 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for its accessibility?

Noel nightingale



From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Tue Feb  1 00:16:44 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:16:44 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>

Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large annotated
statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I guess
I would recommend westlaw. 

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Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 00:22:35 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:22:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHbeH=dgcuG+mdSTB4xtbDEnABpG=KMk5hAEoU@mail.gmail.com>

I love Westlaw, but have to admit after being forced to use it that Lexis
does work fine. If given the choice, I'd go back to using Text Only Westlaw.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:

> Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
> although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large
> annotated
> statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I guess
> I would recommend westlaw.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
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> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility
> or
> usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?
>
> If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
> for
> its accessibility?
>
> Noel nightingale
>
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From withat at msn.com  Tue Feb  1 01:29:43 2011
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:29:43 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><498E8153F601437CBD86D75CB167C7B8@DanielKBeitzPC>
	<AANLkTikHbeH=dgcuG+mdSTB4xtbDEnABpG=KMk5hAEoU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP215C5EC9B4CE48A4418DA61D2E50@phx.gbl>

Hi folks,

Text only Westlaw (text.westlaw.com) is great if you already have a 
citation: very quick and convenient; however, it is severely limited in its 
functions.  Any broad research is better done on the full site; it's just 
more practical.  I have only used Westlaw Next once, and it appears at first 
glance to be more user friendly than the standard version... thank goodness! 
A note for new users to the text only Westlaw site:  you must put something, 
anything, in the Client ID box.  Without putting a character in there, it 
will not allow you to sign in.

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW


>I love Westlaw, but have to admit after being forced to use it that Lexis
> does work fine. If given the choice, I'd go back to using Text Only 
> Westlaw.
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Daniel K. Beitz 
> <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>
>> Both are accessable.  I don't think it really matters which you use,
>> although lexis is a bit slower some times, particularly with large
>> annotated
>> statutes.  Lexis is easier to use, but westlaw is pretty powerful.  I 
>> guess
>> I would recommend westlaw.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI  48307
>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 <tel:+12488419405>
>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 <tel:+12486522729>
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email 
>> messages
>> attached
>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 
>> If
>> you are
>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
>> this
>> email
>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
>> copying,
>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
>> attached to
>> this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication
>> in
>> error,
>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or 
>> by
>> telephoning
>> us at (248) 841-9400 <tel:+12488419400>.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
>>
>> Blindlaw listers:
>>
>> Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility
>> or
>> usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?
>>
>> If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
>> for
>> its accessibility?
>>
>> Noel nightingale
>>
>>
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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  1 02:04:20 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:04:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>

I think which screen reader you are using is important. I use ZoomText and
both Lexis and WestLaw are difficult to use. However, WestLaw has a text
only site and ZoomText works fine in an environment where there is only
text. As a Law student I have access to both and I always use WestLaw.

Cheers,
Dee Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From langlois2 at verizon.net  Tue Feb  1 03:38:30 2011
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:38:30 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
Message-ID: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois




From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 04:03:42 2011
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:03:42 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

   I have had opportunity to use the PDF format with the JAWS software
and it works great.  Although, there are computers users that do not
feel that this program is friendly to the people that are not familiar
with the short cut keys.
Thanks for the entry to this topic...
Darlene Olsen
1 Year Law Student
Northwestern California University School of Law


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Brian Langlois <langlois2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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-- 
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:27:36 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:27:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney job postings
Message-ID: <88FA9BC7268D4A4589262F7E715B320E@none8a46117901>

      * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, CRIMINAL SECTION DIRECTOR FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, GS-15 CLOSING DATE: FEBRUARY 18, 2011 11-ATT-001 Closing date February 18, 2011.  
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-att-001.htm  


"He had delusions of adequacy." 

- Walter Kerr   



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Feb  1 13:35:08 2011
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:35:08 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>

I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois



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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:37:19 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:37:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] ADA posting of interest
Message-ID: <7C74DEB7190349A3A0A52C6FB4DDC15E@none8a46117901>

For those who use a tax service to file taxes:

*A new ADA settlement agreement with H&R Block Tax Services has been added along with the January 2011 issue of Disability Rights Online News. Both are now available at: 

http://service.govdelivery.com/service/view.html?code=USDOJ_41  

 

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

- - - André Gide 

 



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 13:39:48 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:48 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
Message-ID: <1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>

Could someone who still uses Word 2003 please post where one can find the 
conversion     option for a PDF in the menues?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 15:01:05 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:01:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
	<1D15C5FE254147888350FE92BA5CCA35@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <654608D5143A4BA1BEF6DCE0D6CD2E33@Rufus>

I'm still on Office 2003, but I don't think there was ever a conversion
option for this version.  Just the other day I was on the Microsoft website
and only found some for 2007 and 2010.  I'm hoping someone can prove me
wrong though, as it would be great.  I use Click2Convert, a paid software
that converts to PDF and HTML from most any format.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

Could someone who still uses Word 2003 please post where one 
can find the 
conversion     option for a PDF in the menues?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind 
Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will 
send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind 
of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has 
such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally 
inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Feb  1 15:05:57 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:05:57 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW
In-Reply-To: <000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4E89F@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<000001cbc1b4$5b229c20$1167d460$@net>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3E902@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

I have had the same experience with WinZoom.  I much prefer to use Text
Westlaw, even if it is overly basic at times.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Deanna Jones
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:04 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

I think which screen reader you are using is important. I use ZoomText
and
both Lexis and WestLaw are difficult to use. However, WestLaw has a text
only site and ZoomText works fine in an environment where there is only
text. As a Law student I have access to both and I always use WestLaw.

Cheers,
Dee Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:06 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of LAWS versus WESTLAW

Blindlaw listers:

Has anyone on this list had recent experience comparing the
accessibility or
usability of Lexis versus Westlaw with a screen reader ?

If one were choosing today, what legal research system should one select
for
its accessibility?

Noel nightingale


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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Feb  1 15:07:48 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:07:48 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3E903@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

I do not know which version our office uses, but it has a built-in
reader function that even co-workers who can see without assistance like
using.  Like any such document, however, it only "reads" the portions
which are typed - anything on a PDF (ours are generally police reports)
that is handwritten does not "read".

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:39 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files

Hello, listers,
For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
computer users.
I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
Thanks!
Brian Langlois



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From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Tue Feb  1 15:18:34 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:18:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
Message-ID: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>

Greetings,

                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple of
totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work without
sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: johnnyrusso at windstream.net
Thank You.


From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb  1 15:33:20 2011
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:33:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
Message-ID: <E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>

open book 9 is great for turning useless pdf files into something readable.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you PDF 
>files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of conversion 
>software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to use it's 
>conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Feb  1 16:24:09 2011
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:24:09 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger>
	<E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>

I found the instructions to convert image to readable files in office 2003. Here it is below.


First make sure you have Microsoft Office 2003 installed along with the Microsoft Office Document Imaging feature (which, I believe, is installed by default,
at least with the Professional Edition of Microsoft Office 2003). Next, make sure you have either Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat installed, which you would
need anyway to read non-protected PDF files. Finally, you'll need the PDF file that you can't read through normal Adobe means.

Here's the step by step:

list of 11 items
1. Open the restricted PDF file. 
2. Press CTRL-P to print. 
3. Select the Microsoft Office Document Image Writer from the printer name combo box, and press ENTER. 
4. Enter a file name to print to. The extension should be .MDI (for Microsoft Document Imaging Format). Once the document has printed, close the PDF file.

5. Open the Microsoft Office Document Imaging utility (usually located in the Start Menu, under Programs, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Office Tools). 
6. Press CTRL-O to bring up the Open dialog. 
7. Type in the path and file name of the MDI you saved in step 5, and press ENTER. 
8. Press ALT-T for Tools. 
9. Arrow down to Send Text to Word, and press ENTER. 
10. Press ENTER to begin the conversion with the default options. If you're presented with a dialog stating, "You must re-run OCR before performing this
operation," simply confirm by selecting the OK button.
The conversion process will begin. You can use the Window-Eyes progress hot key (CTRL-INS-B by default) to interrogate the progress. 
11. Once the conversion is complete, Microsoft Word will be open (for me, it opened in the background) with the text of the PDF file available for your
perusal. Once you locate the Microsoft Word window, you can close the Microsoft Office Document Imaging utility.
list end

There are a few things to note about this process.

list of 4 items
* The results of an OCR are only as good as the OCR engine. OCR is never a complete replacement for the original text. In other words, don't expect perfect
text accuracy. 
* This process does not remove password protection. If you have a password protected PDF, you will still need to know the password to perform this task.

* If a PDF author has restricted copying text, this method will enable the OCR'd text to be copied. Acrobat itself warns about this when you enable the
copying restriction: "All Adobe products enforce the restrictions set by the Permissions Password. However, not all third-party products fully support
and respect these settings. Recipients using such third-party products might be able to bypass some of the restrictions you have set." 
* If the printing security restriction has been enabled, you cannot print the PDF, meaning you can't use this method to do what you want.
list end

Although I've been discussing this method for use with restricted PDFs, it will also work fairly well with PDFs that contain nothing but images. If you
don't have access to another utility that boasts PDF OCR capabilities, this may be a good solution for you.

For example, I took a screen shot of a web page, and created a PDF out of it; the PDF contained nothing but an image of what was on my screen. I ran it
through this process, and for the most part, the text on the web page was readable. 

PDF files, in general, are very accessible despite their enigmatic stigma. Adobe even provides their own methods of tweaking accessibility settings (i.e.
changing reading order, overriding tagged order, etc.). There's even an Accessibility Quick Check in the Acrobat Reader (even more detailed Accessibility
tools in the full Adobe Acrobat) for examining documents, and reporting problems to the PDF author.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:33 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

open book 9 is great for turning useless pdf files into something readable.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
To: "'Brian Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


>I use them all the time with JAWS. Since sometimes people will send you 
>PDF files that are just the images, it is good to have some kind of 
>conversion software. Under earlier versions of Office, I was able to 
>use it's conversion program. I am not sure whether the Office 10 has such or not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to 
> blind computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Feb  1 16:47:05 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:47:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger><E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook>
	<8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
Message-ID: <DAD926FBB6BC4CDEBAAB38AA26FAA035@Rufus>

Even though PDF files are not intimidating for me, I do take other options
if they're available.  Jamal has a program which I believe converts them to
something more readable, but if I'm dealing with a massive federal
government document, I use Adobe's built-in Copy to Text feature found under
File in the menu bar.  My biggest gripe with PDF is the Search feature.
I've never quite gotten the hang of how that thing is supposed to work
correctly.  Any tips are welcomed.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 18:19:02 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:19:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CD5@tiger><E1537DC31A504D7EB7DD9346C5F111E5@HP8730notebook><8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233862AC92CDA@tiger>
	<DAD926FBB6BC4CDEBAAB38AA26FAA035@Rufus>
Message-ID: <5C754CADFD8141A5B25BFED0CE6A312D@none8a46117901>

I echo this - I have never ben able to get the search function in Adobe 
reader to work in an easy way.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Even though PDF files are not intimidating for me, I do take other options
> if they're available.  Jamal has a program which I believe converts them 
> to
> something more readable, but if I'm dealing with a massive federal
> government document, I use Adobe's built-in Copy to Text feature found 
> under
> File in the menu bar.  My biggest gripe with PDF is the Search feature.
> I've never quite gotten the hang of how that thing is supposed to work
> correctly.  Any tips are welcomed.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Tue Feb  1 19:58:57 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<AANLkTim6i5_pB4__wU7n5__Dn1cNs9v490tAwBJ+UxL7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA1A9BB7-E6AB-4602-9EA5-2B14FFCAEDBF@mac.com>

There is always zamzar.com to translate pdfs into text.

PDFs can be read on Macs but not edited.

Jorge


On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Darlene Olsen wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>   I have had opportunity to use the PDF format with the JAWS software
> and it works great.  Although, there are computers users that do not
> feel that this program is friendly to the people that are not familiar
> with the short cut keys.
> Thanks for the entry to this topic...
> Darlene Olsen
> 1 Year Law Student
> Northwestern California University School of Law
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Brian Langlois <langlois2 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hello, listers,
>> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
>> computer users.
>> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
>> Thanks!
>> Brian Langlois
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Darlene Olsen
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb  1 20:02:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:02:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Case citation
Message-ID: <0F5347050A39402A800A2625D5F5609B@none8a46117901>

Can anyone on the list - with access to WestLaw or Nexis - please get me the full cite for the City of Layborn case, - All I know of it is that it is supposed to be a S. Ct. case and it involves PWD and the Federal Equal Protection clause.
Any help with the citation will be very much appreciated - 
Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From langlois2 at verizon.net  Tue Feb  1 21:45:09 2011
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:45:09 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>

So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users? 
Somewhat accessible?
I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of files, 
including PDF.
In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or 
any other graphical format.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Brian l.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Tue Feb  1 22:09:57 2011
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:09:57 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>

For the widest possible use, something other than PDF is best in my
humble opinion, probably word or text format.  The reason is that to use
the available technology for PDF, a blind person needs to have installed
Adobe version 8 or newer, and probably a screen reader of fairly recent
vintage.  Also, creating accessible PDF documents is something that
seems hard for entities to consistently get right.  All it takes is for
one person to start doing it wrong, and somehow the same error can
become widespread.  

All the above in mind, PDF is probably too popular to stop, so on web
pages a link to a current Adobe version, and perhaps a note to screen
reader users should do the trick.  The note would warn blind folks of
the need for them to have a recent Adobe and screen reader software
version.

Sincerely,
Tim Ford
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Brian Langlois
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:45 PM
To: Brian Langlois; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users?

Somewhat accessible?
I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of
files, including PDF.
In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF
or any other graphical format.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Brian l.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to
blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Feb  1 22:17:31 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:17:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
Message-ID: <A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>

I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more 
information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing 
some sort of hypothesis.
Steve ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Greetings,
>
>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple of
> totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work without
> sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: johnnyrusso at windstream.net
> Thank You.
>
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From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Wed Feb  2 04:38:51 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:38:51 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
Message-ID: <001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>

Steve,
	Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular
hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My thesis will
be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is interviews.
Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and adaptive
equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use that enable them
to compete successfully alongside their sighted colleagues.  Much
information written about blindness and employment focuses legitimate
attention on discrimination.  My case study will show that blind people are
currently employed in professional fields, and they are performing their
tasks with equal levels of productivity as sighted employees.  The evidence
will go beyond answering the question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather
speak loudly that we, "are" doing our work.  The product is the important
result, the means of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to
ability and quality of performance.  
	I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to
answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations and
suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any blind
professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware of resources
that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles that discuss
employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  Thank you very much.

	
John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview

I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more
information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing
some sort of hypothesis.
Steve ----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Greetings,
>
>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M 
> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple 
> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work 
> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at: 
> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 10:54:59 2011
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 05:54:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <000301cbc2c7$a3692ad0$ea3b8070$@gmail.com>

Hello everyone:
To throw something else in to the mix, has any one used successfully a PDF
portfolio file?
Apparently it is a PDF file but has multiple files contained in it.
I attended a seminar and they had available the materials on a flash drive.
There was just this one big file which is a PDF portfolio.  Using adobe 9 I
cannot access the individual documents.  I use jaws.  Not sure if there is
some technique I should be using? 



From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Wed Feb  2 11:03:06 2011
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:03:06 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
References: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F606ED986F@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
	<000301cbc2c7$a3692ad0$ea3b8070$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BC3F3CE4CAD34DE88A6F8567D846806D@GPD945>

Hello everyone.  Noting the difficulties that a lot of you are having with 
PDF documents the one suggestion I can pass on is purchasing a PDF 
converter. Not sure if American's have a Staples or a office store but they 
should have one. the converter that I purchased is called nuance PDF 
(spelled faneticly so you know how it's pronounced and not sure how they 
spell it). There are two versions - one Professional which gives the ability 
to convert word documents into PDF and the other way around or the home 
edition which only allows you to convert a PDF document into word or text 
file. that is one suggestion that I can pass on. The professional version in 
Canada runs about $112. Hope this helps and if you have any further 
questions please feel free to write me off list. I can find out what a 
couple of my lawyer friends here do.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "'Brian 
Langlois'" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


Hello everyone:
To throw something else in to the mix, has any one used successfully a PDF
portfolio file?
Apparently it is a PDF file but has multiple files contained in it.
I attended a seminar and they had available the materials on a flash drive.
There was just this one big file which is a PDF portfolio.  Using adobe 9 I
cannot access the individual documents.  I use jaws.  Not sure if there is
some technique I should be using?


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb  2 15:56:16 2011
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:56:16 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] state controled prices
Message-ID: <260C9A8804384C309D705872ED6F9D87@HP8730notebook>

hi,

Could anyone comment on how a state is allowed to control how much a business chargesper hour?

Say if a contract is in effect with a state agency and it says the rate is $75 per hour, how does the state have the right to tie the hands of the company by stating you cannot charge an individual/the general public less for the same service?
Not all blind people have the luxury of free assistance from rehab services for the blind and can't afford $75 per hour.

This wouldn't be much of a concern if clients were semi equally assigned to vendors but one vendor receives about 85% of all work available.

Bryan Schulz

From O'Gorman at wapa.gov  Wed Feb  2 18:08:59 2011
From: O'Gorman at wapa.gov (Sherilyn O'Gorman)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:08:59 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Western Area Power Administration EEO Job
Message-ID: <4D493B4B0200008600070064@10.1.50.131>

See attached

Sherilyn O'Gorman
EEO Specialist
720-962-7043
720-962-7041 (fax)


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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Thu Feb  3 01:26:01 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:26:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>
	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>
	<001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
Message-ID: <F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>

Very interesting study.  Thank you for the explanation!  I hope you will let 
us know how we can read your thesis when it is complete.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Steve,
> Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular
> hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My thesis 
> will
> be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is interviews.
> Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and 
> adaptive
> equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use that enable 
> them
> to compete successfully alongside their sighted colleagues.  Much
> information written about blindness and employment focuses legitimate
> attention on discrimination.  My case study will show that blind people 
> are
> currently employed in professional fields, and they are performing their
> tasks with equal levels of productivity as sighted employees.  The 
> evidence
> will go beyond answering the question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather
> speak loudly that we, "are" doing our work.  The product is the important
> result, the means of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to
> ability and quality of performance.
> I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to
> answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations and
> suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any blind
> professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware of 
> resources
> that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles that discuss
> employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  Thank you very 
> much.
>
>
> John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
> I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more
> information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are testing
> some sort of hypothesis.
> Steve ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M
>> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple
>> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work
>> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at:
>> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Feb  3 02:39:34 2011
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:39:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Brian:

The answer to your question is it depends.  First, there is probably 
no perfect format.  If the PDF is produced properly it can and should 
be accessible.  It however, can't be an image of a page, but must 
contain text to be directly accessed.  Most PDF's are produced from 
Microsoft Word files, and if this is used, the author should employ 
"styles."  This way, when the conversion is done, the Adobe software 
knows what is text, what is a graphic, what a table, what is a list etc.

Also, recent versions of your screen reader, and Adobe Acrobat Reader 
should be used, as the tools have all improved.

There are lots of ways to product PDF's though, lots of ways to get 
text on the page, lots of elements that can be contained ... etc., 
and not all will be accessible.  Thus my answer, it depends.

Things have generally improved, but we still aren't there.

Dave

At 03:45 PM 2/1/2011, you wrote:
>So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users?
>Somewhat accessible?
>I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of files,
>including PDF.
>In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or
>any other graphical format.
>Thoughts? Suggestions?
>Brian l.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
>Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
>
> > Hello, listers,
> > For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind
> > computer users.
> > I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> > Thanks!
> > Brian Langlois



From b75205 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 02:50:23 2011
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:50:23 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
	<auto-000193135636@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=WU83EJG+rrQf6qVy7HQtWKpCm47OZKRxF4WaN@mail.gmail.com>

PDF files have to be laid out correctly in order to be accessible.  The OCR
Software that comes with Adobe Acrobat ( for instance) is not very helpful
if you have two columns of text in an image of a document, you get to read
the first line of text for each column and then onwards down the page. If
you can, try to avoid PDF files for accessibility, Adobe does not want to
make any new innovations on this subject, they are not open to new ideas.
 Also the PDF standards board is run by a guy who sells the software that
the US government uses to make all of its documents so there is an interest
to keep things the way they are, don't change.

James Pepper

From johnnyrusso at windstream.net  Thu Feb  3 04:05:17 2011
From: johnnyrusso at windstream.net (Johnny Russo)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:05:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
In-Reply-To: <F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>
References: <001701cbc223$4b31f440$e195dcc0$@net>	<A3E3E657FAD44B15831BBF01C7E1560C@StevePC>	<001e01cbc293$17bc0450$47340cf0$@net>
	<F8EDEC67A88C49BC8C8E965A44411998@StevePC>
Message-ID: <000001cbc357$92093880$b61ba980$@net>

Steve,
	Thank you for your interest.  I'll keep you posted, and if you have
any information you would like to share, or people you want to recommend for
me to interview, just let me know.  Thank you again.   John Russo

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:26 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview

Very interesting study.  Thank you for the explanation!  I hope you will let
us know how we can read your thesis when it is complete.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview


> Steve,
> Thank you for your interest.  No, I'm not testing a particular 
> hypothesis, which would lend itself to a quantitative study.  My 
> thesis will be a qualitative case study.  The method of research is 
> interviews.
> Questions are designed to find out what alternative strategies and 
> adaptive equipment totally blind, and partially sighted  people use 
> that enable them to compete successfully alongside their sighted 
> colleagues.  Much information written about blindness and employment 
> focuses legitimate attention on discrimination.  My case study will 
> show that blind people are currently employed in professional fields, 
> and they are performing their tasks with equal levels of productivity 
> as sighted employees.  The evidence will go beyond answering the 
> question of, "how" we do our jobs, but rather speak loudly that we, 
> "are" doing our work.  The product is the important result, the means 
> of production, though alternative, are irrelevant to ability and 
> quality of performance.
> I hope this answers your question.  I am most sincerely willing to 
> answer any other questions, and will gladly accept any observations 
> and suggestions that will enhance the study.  If you're aware of any 
> blind professors, attorneys, computer programmers, or if you're aware 
> of resources that would yield peer reviewed academic journal articles 
> that discuss employment, or lack of, for the blind, please respond.  
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> John Russo, home phone: 903-645-4344
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:18 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
> I'm not an attorney, however, I am wondering if you can share more 
> information about your thesis and perhaps let us know if you are 
> testing some sort of hypothesis.
> Steve ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnny Russo" <johnnyrusso at windstream.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] looking to interview
>
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>                I am a totally blind graduate student at Texas A&M 
>> University.  I am preparing my thesis and need to interview a couple 
>> of totally blind attorneys to find out how they perform their work 
>> without sight.  If anyone can assist me, contact me at:
>> johnnyrusso at windstream.net Thank You.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> e
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  3 19:31:04 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:31:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF electroni signatures and 508-compliance
Message-ID: <607555.77125.qm@web112409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

I've noticed that some of the 508-compliant Federal forms have a place to place an electronic signature in lieu of signing it with a pen. Is there any policy (statute, reg, etc.) that requires an electronic signature be a part of a 508-compliant PDF form?

Thanks.

Mike


      


From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb  3 20:17:19 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:17:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney  posting
Message-ID: <65D527EF37F74D4C978CEA771A9827BD@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EXECUTIVE OFFICE FOR UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS OFFICE OF THE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER ATTORNEY ADVISOR, GS-0905-15 VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO: 11-EOUSA-002 Closing date February 28, 2011 
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-eousa-002.htm 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  4 15:58:03 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:58:03 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
Message-ID: <24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>

again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file 
legal documents unless they are emancipated.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating


> Hi.
> Just had a quick question.
> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
> My question is this:
> In the form, there are two areas,
> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>
> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
> down in "organizer" and my father
> down as the "filed by" name?
>
> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 16:10:20 2011
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:10:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
Message-ID: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>

Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating


> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
> attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file 
> legal documents unless they are emancipated.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>
>
>> Hi.
>> Just had a quick question.
>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>> My question is this:
>> In the form, there are two areas,
>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>
>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>> down in "organizer" and my father
>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>
>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 21:11:58 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:11:58 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
Message-ID: <019d01cbc4b0$2a2d2140$7e8763c0$@com>

George, you might want to check on your state's Secretary of State's
website...at least that's where that information is here in Texas.  That
might be a great starting point.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:10 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating

Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating


> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an 
> attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file

> legal documents unless they are emancipated.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>
>
>> Hi.
>> Just had a quick question.
>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>> My question is this:
>> In the form, there are two areas,
>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>
>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>> down in "organizer" and my father
>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>
>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>
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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Fri Feb  4 23:33:36 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:33:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
Message-ID: <50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>

Well,
I want to set up my own LLC,
but I'm wondering weather I could sign my own name as the organizer and have my father under "filed by".





On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:10 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:

> Jorge, What are you wanting to do? RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] incorporating
> 
> 
>> again you would need to research laws in your state or consult with an attorney. In most states minors cannot be officers of corporations or file legal documents unless they are emancipated.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> Just had a quick question.
>>> I finally filled out the forms I needed to incorporate my business.
>>> My question is this:
>>> In the form, there are two areas,
>>> one that says "organizer" and "filed by."
>>> 
>>> Since I'm under 18, can I put my name
>>> down in "organizer" and my father
>>> down as the "filed by" name?
>>> 
>>> Or do both of these fields  need to have my father's name on them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jorge
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Sat Feb  5 00:57:28 2011
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:57:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com><24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike><B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>
Message-ID: <66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>

Ok William, how old are you?  Are you at least 18 years of age?  If not, I 
don't see how you can legaly append your signature to such a document.  May 
be wait a few years if you are not quite 18 yet, or have your dad be the 
owner of the company you are about to set up.  Later, he can transfer full 
responsibilities to you when you turn 18.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Sat Feb  5 00:58:51 2011
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:58:51 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike><B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<019d01cbc4b0$2a2d2140$7e8763c0$@com>
Message-ID: <F80AC2E300CA49D0A47FE891165D5F51@victory>

My profound apologies.  My previous message was for George, not William! 
It's Friday, I've been picking the wrong letters pretty much all day, 
<phew>, shame on me!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Sat Feb  5 01:06:11 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:06:11 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] incorporating
In-Reply-To: <66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>
References: <93A8D55F-EB5D-4F07-9429-55EFCB3BD1F4@mac.com>
	<24D6F0B7884B4638817A4800079CA514@spike>
	<B47275DE8F46456C82079C3C857475E6@hometwxakonvzn>
	<50F19C58-96DC-47E9-A700-742E2E95D733@mac.com>
	<66ABF27E0099469C9B98786CC01607F2@victory>
Message-ID: <BBBAAB15-FB8D-4F93-91CD-98A698A408AE@mac.com>

Olusegun:
Nope I'm not 18 yet,
so I guesss I'll have to wait.
Or simply wait to register until I'm 18.

Thanks,


Jorge



On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:

> Ok William, how old are you?  Are you at least 18 years of age?  If not, I don't see how you can legaly append your signature to such a document.  May be wait a few years if you are not quite 18 yet, or have your dad be the owner of the company you are about to set up.  Later, he can transfer full responsibilities to you when you turn 18.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado 
> 
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb  5 09:40:25 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:40:25 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] more on the consideration of an optional LSAT
Message-ID: <5634AFBC479A43A7B64B23F35E52EC23@spike>




The following is a lengthy article but interesting. As this is a very long link to access let me know if you have difficulty and I will forward the article off list.
Chuck

Who needs the LSAT anyway?

 
The American Bar Association is contemplating making the Law School Admissions Test voluntary rather than mandatory for accreditation.



http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202479662328&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=National%20Law%20Journal&pt=NLJ.com-%20Daily%20Headlines&cn=20110131NLJ&kw=Who%20needs%20the%20LSAT%20anyway%3F&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1

From snowball07 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 19:17:00 2011
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice Jeang)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:17:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] technology for sell
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDf3fKGV2BPZ2xY0sJJS5o2FiRLZ44qpQ9bdVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have the following items for sale:

1. Braille Note PK with Sendero GPS

2. Brailliant 40

3. Eye Pal Solo

4. Toshiba Satalite Laptop

5. Olympus DS-50

6. KNFB Reader Mobile – software only

*all prices do not include shipping and handling.
 If interested or any questions, contact janice.jeang at gmail.com


1. Braille Note PK with Sendero GPS

This unit was refurbished back in August of last year. It has the latest
firmware, as well as what was a new battery at that time. It has just been
sitting on my shelf, since I moved over to the Mac OS. The device also comes
with the BrailleNote GPS from Sendero, as well as a 16GB compact flash card,
and compact flash card reader; I will also throw in a GPS receiver if you
ask for it.

I’m asking  $2000 or best offer.

Information from the Humanware site about the device.

http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/braillenotes/_details/id_26/braillenote_pk.html



2. Brailliant 40

 Brailliant-40 braille display in perfect working order. Selling the item
because I just have not been using it, and it might as well get some use.
Included is the Brailliant, and a mini USB to USB cord, which I was last
using it to charge. Fairly certain I should have the AC charger too. Item
will come in its original box with all original paperwork.

This display works with Apple products, JAWS and Window-Eyes. This device
also works with System Access from Serotek. It does not have a keyboard for
entering text but has a keypad for issuing screen reading commands.

I am asking $1,500 or best offer.

Here is the link to the page on Humanware's website for the device.

http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/products/blindness/braille_displays/_details/id_34/brailliant_40.html





3. Eye Pal Solo

I am asking $1,800 or best offer.

Here is the link to the page on Abisee's website for the device.

http://www.abisee.com/products/eye-pal-solo.html



4. Toshiba Satalite Laptop

This is a used laptop recently reformatted, works perfect.

Specs:
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual T2330 @ 1.60 GHz
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Drive: 120GB
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
Screen: 15.4

Asking $350 or best offer.

Website with more specs and pictures:
http://www.clearanceclub.com/products/9307-Satellite-A205-S5810



5. Olympus DS-50

Asking $120 or best offer.

Website with more info:
http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-DS-50-Digital-voice-recorder/dp/B000MFR34Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1297017730&sr=8-2



6. KNFB Reader Mobile – software only

Asking $900 or best offer.

Website with more info: http://www.knfbreader.com/products-mobile.php

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  7 07:25:34 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:25:34 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
Message-ID: <6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>

If they are created properly they are accessible for blind users. they need 
to be tabbed properly. Additionally, if you are using Kurzweil or Open Book 
they can be scanned and recognized by them and read properly. There has been 
considerable improvement over the years.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  7 22:02:10 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:02:10 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<74B8AF707DE04B938FB6A6C3DF02C593@barney03>
Message-ID: <069307F66F7344A79DB449C4B27F2D19@spike>

PDF files are accessible on web sites as long as the information presented 
in them does not come from a scanned image. A while back we had an issue 
here in Fresno where city staff was scanning pdf files in to the web site 
and those weren't accessible unless someone had access to software such as 
Kurzweil or Open Book. For someone to read files directly from a web site 
they need to come from an actual document rather than a scanned image. If 
needed contact me off list and I can go in to more detail with you.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>; "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing 
List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files


> So, are we saying that PDF files are accessible to blind computer users? 
> Somewhat accessible?
> I'm working with my local city web site which uses different types of 
> files, including PDF.
> In the past, I've told city leaders to use a different format, not PDF or 
> any other graphical format.
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
> Brian l.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
>
>
>> Hello, listers,
>> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
>> computer users.
>> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
>> Thanks!
>> Brian Langlois
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Feb  7 23:55:18 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:55:18 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Four paralegal positions open in DC
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85F4F63E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  8 15:00:45 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:00:45 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
Message-ID: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>

Hello,

 

Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.

 

Thanks,

Dee Jones


From b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net  Tue Feb  8 19:09:52 2011
From: b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net (Blaine Deutscher)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:09:52 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
Message-ID: <9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>

what does this program do? I've never heard of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud


Hello,



Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.



Thanks,

Dee Jones

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From deannaljones at comcast.net  Tue Feb  8 23:29:06 2011
From: deannaljones at comcast.net (Deanna Jones)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:29:06 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
In-Reply-To: <9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
Message-ID: <000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>

It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program. The
academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything about
the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I would check
on this list to see if anyone was using it.

Dee

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud

what does this program do? I've never heard of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud


Hello,



Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
feedback good or bad.



Thanks,

Dee Jones

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From devinenora at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 06:33:31 2011
From: devinenora at gmail.com (Nora)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:33:31 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Zoom text question
In-Reply-To: <000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
	<000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
Message-ID: <85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>

I use zoom text to read my law books etc. on my computer. I would like  
to take notes on my computer while also listening to the book etc.  
being read. Is this possible with zoom text? Is there another program  
that can do this?

Thanks so much,
Nora

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>  
wrote:

> It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program.  
> The
> academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything  
> about
> the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I  
> would check
> on this list to see if anyone was using it.
>
> Dee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw- 
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>
> what does this program do? I've never heard of it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a  
> Law
> school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking  
> for any
> feedback good or bad.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dee Jones
>
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  9 12:36:37 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 04:36:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
Message-ID: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves printing them out and scanning them?

Thanks.


      

From bjsexton at comcast.net  Wed Feb  9 13:09:31 2011
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Sexton, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:09:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801cbc85a$9b0c7d90$d12578b0$@net>

Try pressing f5

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:37 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides

Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group
of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down arrow
to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves printing them
out and scanning them?

Thanks.


      
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From dale.sczweck at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 14:37:24 2011
From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:37:24 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Zoom text question
In-Reply-To: <85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>
References: <000001cbc7a0$faf228a0$f0d679e0$@net>
	<9A68B625235648F39C7805FF28EDC62A@GPD945>
	<000601cbc7e8$04bb8790$0e3296b0$@net>
	<85BCB1E6-18E0-4F55-8692-329F06E63AA2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12D9CD4E-D2C9-4C85-89AF-88EA6D814303@gmail.com>

Nora,
If you open your textbook using the doc reader you should be able to take notes while zoom text continues to read the book. I'm pretty sure this method should work for you. I hope I was able to help.

Regards,
Dale Sczweck
1004 W. Lincoln Hwy.
APT H1
DeKalb, IL. 60115
(215) 390-7918

On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Nora <devinenora at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use zoom text to read my law books etc. on my computer. I would like to take notes on my computer while also listening to the book etc. being read. Is this possible with zoom text? Is there another program that can do this?
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Nora
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> It is a text-to-speech program. I don't know much about the program. The
>> academic support office at my Law school asked me if I knew anything about
>> the program or anyone in the legal field using it. I said that I would check
>> on this list to see if anyone was using it.
>> 
>> Dee
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:10 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>> 
>> what does this program do? I've never heard of it.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Deanna Jones" <deannaljones at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:00 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Read-Out-Loud
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is anyone using the program Read-Out-Loud in legal practice or in a Law
>> school setting? If so, how well does it work for you? I am looking for any
>> feedback good or bad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dee Jones
>> 
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Wed Feb  9 16:16:01 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:16:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9E2ED4710240369C2FCCAE7873D782@none8a46117901>

Yes there is a way to read Power Point slides with Jaws -- I give 
presentations with PPT all the time and it works.
In general, if you tap the F5 key, that will begin the slide show, and each 
time you tap the spacebar it should take you to the next slide.
When a slide is open, you should be able to read the text on the screen 
using the standard JAWS navigation keys.
Having said this, if there are pictures in the slide, or if someone got a 
bit carried away using tyext boxes, you may have a bit of a problem reading 
them.
Another way to read what is in the slides is to simply pull the slide show 
up, but do not "start it" - arrow to the slide you want to read, and then 
tap the enter key - this will open the slide up for editing. Don't edit 
anything, while you are in it, but you can now use the Keys to read what is 
in the slide.
Caution - the version of Power point you use may have different ways to 
access the slides, so you may need to adjust what you do according to what 
you find on the screen That is the "hidden treasure" factor.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group 
> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Feb 10 00:25:04 2011
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:25:04 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
In-Reply-To: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000000628655@mailfront3.g2host.com>

I think it depends on how they were made, and what is in them.  You 
can try save as, and save in an accessible format.  Sometimes f5, 
full screen helps.  Then, sometimes outline view can help.

Dave

At 06:36 AM 2/9/2011, you wrote:
>Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a 
>group of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can 
>use down arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them 
>that saves printing them out and scanning them?
>
>Thanks.




From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 12:24:50 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:24:50 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files
In-Reply-To: <6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>
References: <E3693B16C135402C875C5E5EAB16E41C@barney03>
	<6668CCF552644BB386E2D556089B1D80@spike>
Message-ID: <01ad01cbc91d$84ec14d0$8ec43e70$@com>

This is true.  If you are in a firm that is scanning quite a bit, then they
have to make sure to "Scan to PDF" rather than "Scan to Image."  When they
scan as an image or .IMG file, that's when the inaccessibility comes in.  As
long as it's a .pDF, then you're fine.  I would suggest using Adobe 8.0 or
higher.  I use 8.0 at work simply for reading purposes and 9.0 Professional
for my personal use.  i like 9.0 because it will recognize a .jpg file by
recognizing the characters without having to print, re-scan and reading.

Chuck's right about the OCR technology.  Sometimes, the .IMG files can be
read by simply clicking to "Recognize with Kurzwilde."  It's a luck of the
draw with that one...especially with version 8.0.

Good luck on the PDF journey.

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:26 AM
To: Brian Langlois; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] PDF files

If they are created properly they are accessible for blind users. they need 
to be tabbed properly. Additionally, if you are using Kurzweil or Open Book 
they can be scanned and recognized by them and read properly. There has been

considerable improvement over the years.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Langlois" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] PDF files


> Hello, listers,
> For years I have regarded PDF  files as generally inaccessible to blind 
> computer users.
> I'm wondering if this is still true in the blind community.
> Thanks!
> Brian Langlois
>
>
>
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 10 20:47:06 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:47:06 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
Message-ID: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>


  * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm  

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 02:59:03 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:59:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment rate, but still! 
Just curious! 
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> 
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm  
> 
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 11 03:22:25 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:22:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>

What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad. 


-------------------------------------------
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Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of ray wayne
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a
job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
rate, but still! 
Just curious! 
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> 
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES
ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> 
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 03:38:56 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:38:56 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com>

In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future paid
employment is often compensation enough.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:

> What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  <+12488419405>(248) 841-9405 <+12488419405>
> Fax:  <+12486522729>(248) 652-2729 <+12486522729>
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of ray wayne
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for
> a
> job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
> rate, but still!
> Just curious!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> >
> >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> STATES
> ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > Admitted to Practice in
> > Maine and New Hampshire
> > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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-- 
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(916) 572-2737 <+19165722737>
agtolentino at gmail.com

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 03:50:34 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:50:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
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Message-ID: <20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship would be more on point. 
Ray



----- Original Message -----
From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
> In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future paid
> employment is often compensation enough.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> 
> > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Daniel K. Beitz
> > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > Rochester, MI  48307
> > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 <ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages
> > attached
> > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If
> > you are
> > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
> > this
> > email
> > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
> > copying,
> > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
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> > in
> > error,
> > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> >
> > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for
> > a
> > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
> > rate, but still!
> > Just curious!
> > Ray Wayne
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > STATES
> > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > >
> > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Respectfully,
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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 04:04:19 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:04:19 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901>
	<20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
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I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone who
is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions in
some jurisdictions.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
> would be more on point.
> Ray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
> paid
> > employment is often compensation enough.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> >
> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Daniel K. Beitz
> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > > Rochester, MI  48307
> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 <+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 <+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
> messages
> > > attached
> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.
>  If
> > > you are
> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply
> for
> > > a
> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
> unemployment
> > > rate, but still!
> > > Just curious!
> > > Ray Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > > STATES
> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > > >
> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > bllaw mailing list
> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > > bllaw:
> > > >
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> > > > c.rr.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > uld.com<
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo%0Auld.com
> >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Respectfully,
> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
> > agtolentino at gmail.com
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Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.
(916) 572-2737
agtolentino at gmail.com

From jimi-law at dc.rr.com  Fri Feb 11 04:59:51 2011
From: jimi-law at dc.rr.com (James Weisberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:59:51 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
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What!  Someone blind was actually hired by the US attorney's office??  Must
have been a former law clerk for a supreme court justice.  *smile*

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Aser Tolentino
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:04 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone who
is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions in
some jurisdictions.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
> would be more on point.
> Ray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>
> >
> >
> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
> paid
> > employment is often compensation enough.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
> >
> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Daniel K. Beitz
> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> > > Rochester, MI  48307
> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405
<+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729
<+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
> messages
> > > attached
> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.
>  If
> > > you are
> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for
delivering
> > > this
> > > email
> > > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
disclosure,
> > > copying,
> > > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
> > > attached to
> > > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this
> communication
> > > in
> > > error,
> > > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email
or
> by
> > > telephoning
> > > us at <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>(248) 841-9400
<+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply
> for
> > > a
> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
> unemployment
> > > rate, but still!
> > > Just curious!
> > > Ray Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
> > > STATES
> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
> > > >
> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> > > > Admitted to Practice in
> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > bllaw mailing list
> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for
> > > bllaw:
> > > >
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> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > uld.com<
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo
%0Auld.com
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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l.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Respectfully,
> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> > (916) 572-2737 <+19165722737> <ingbleaiafegbbgcg>
> > agtolentino at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
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agtolentino at gmail.com
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From pattichang at att.net  Fri Feb 11 14:55:43 2011
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:55:43 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC>
Message-ID: <1713FB47C6C84BDAB220617887FCF927@D3J75Z91>

Actually, I have 4 or 5 attorneys working for me right now who are not being 
paid.  They want the experience while they job hunt and they hope it will 
lead to a paid position.  It also gets one a reference in a very tight 
market.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel K. Beitz" <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland


What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.


-------------------------------------------
Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI 48307
Phone: (248) 841-9405
Fax: (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com
This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages
attached
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you are
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email
to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
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or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
attached to
this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in
error,
please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by
telephoning
us at (248) 841-9400.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of ray wayne
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or apply for a
job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent unemployment
rate, but still!
Just curious!
Ray Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland

>
>
>
>   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED STATES
ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
> http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
> _______________________________________________
> bllaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
bllaw:
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From pattichang at att.net  Fri Feb 11 14:56:53 2011
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:56:53 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
	<AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF2167CC75E041A8ADFC8BCE38E4920D@D3J75Z91>

Absolutely.  City of Chicago Law Dept. probably has 20 working for us 
departmentwide right now.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland


>I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone 
>who
> is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
> to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
> experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
> volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
> constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions 
> in
> some jurisdictions.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
>> would be more on point.
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
>> paid
>> > employment is often compensation enough.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------------------------
>> > > Daniel K. Beitz
>> > > Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> > > Rochester, MI  48307
>> > > Phone:  <ingbleabdhhdaidje>(248) 841-9405 
>> > > <+12488419405><ingbleabdhhdaidje>
>> > > Fax:  <ingbleabdhfebbgbi>(248) 652-2729 
>> > > <+12486522729><ingbleabdhfebbgbi>
>> > > dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>> > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email
>> messages
>> > > attached
>> > > to it may contain confidential information that is legally 
>> > > privileged.
>>  If
>> > > you are
>> > > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for 
>> > > delivering
>> > > this
>> > > email
>> > > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any 
>> > > disclosure,
>> > > copying,
>> > > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or
>> > > attached to
>> > > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this
>> communication
>> > > in
>> > > error,
>> > > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email 
>> > > or
>> by
>> > > telephoning
>> > > us at <ingbleabdhhdaidjj>(248) 841-9400 
>> > > <+12488419400><ingbleabdhhdaidjj>.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> > > [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> > > Behalf Of ray wayne
>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
>> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or 
>> > > apply
>> for
>> > > a
>> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
>> unemployment
>> > > rate, but still!
>> > > Just curious!
>> > > Ray Wayne
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
>> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
>> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
>> > > STATES
>> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
>> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
>> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> > > > Admitted to Practice in
>> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
>> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > bllaw mailing list
>> > > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> > > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>> > > > for
>> > > bllaw:
>> > > >
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40ny
>> > > > c.rr.com
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > bllaw mailing list
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 11 15:38:58 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:38:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
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References: <DEAA39FC55BA4B3191313D60DB28FB72@none8a46117901><20110211025903.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><3D294C9B515B4347B192E190A77F8619@DanielKBeitzPC><AANLkTi=Wynr-kXLE59+a-H-zBUiS_ws0ODWAB3E-FAMw@mail.gmail.com><20110211035034.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com><AANLkTi=yrrxgfHo_NhxGfHjbQHZXEcdGGqs9TXFZHw4w@mail.gmail.com>
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I'd probably do it if I were a young unemployed attorney. 


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Absolutely.  City of Chicago Law Dept. probably has 20 working for us
departmentwide right now.


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>I think the important distinction is that an intern is generally someone 
>who
> is first and foremost a student. Volunteer attorneys are sworn in and held
> to the standard of an actual practicing attorney of their level of
> experience. All three DA's offices with which I've worked have employed
> volunteers sworn as acting deputy district attorneys. Given budget
> constraints, they have become integral parts of lower level prosecutions 
> in
> some jurisdictions.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ray wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to be insensitive. I would have thought that an internship
>> would be more on point.
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 22:40:51
>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > In the current job climate, experience and the mere potential of future
>> paid
>> > employment is often compensation enough.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Daniel K. Beitz <
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > What do you want dude?  Somebody needs work real bad.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -------------------------------------------
>> > > Daniel K. Beitz
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>> > > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
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>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:59 PM
>> > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > Could someone explain to me why anyone would either advertise or 
>> > > apply
>> for
>> > > a
>> > > job that is without compensation. I know we have a 70 percent
>> unemployment
>> > > rate, but still!
>> > > Just curious!
>> > > Ray Wayne
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
>> > > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Date: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011 15:48:57
>> > > Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Atty Position in Maryland
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   * SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY (UNCOMPENSATED) UNITED
>> > > STATES
>> > > ATTORNEY's OFFICE, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER:
>> > > 11-MD-03 Open and Continuous.
>> > > > http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-md-03specassisusatty.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> > > > Admitted to Practice in
>> > > > Maine and New Hampshire
>> > > > F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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>> >
>> > --
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>> > Aser Tolentino, Esq.
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 11 17:53:05 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:53:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
Message-ID: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>

...and this one is being paid.
By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty offices do that sort of thing from time to time.

  * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm

"Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
----- Charles Shultz
 
Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 11 17:56:23 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:56:23 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting - North District of Illinois
Message-ID: <BB12B842E79B4993AFA7DA72F84DF838@none8a46117901>


  * ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: AUSA-NDIL-11 Position is open until filled.
  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/ausa-ndil-11.htm  

"Yep, that would be the two of us, me and Sam Colt"
--- Unknown

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Feb 12 00:44:15 2011
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:44:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
In-Reply-To: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
References: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <20110212004415.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Gosh, somebody was willing to work without pay and live in Maine! Smile! I've never been there; I just hate the cold! 
Ray Wayne 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:17
Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Attorney posting

>
>
> ...disand this one is being paid.
> By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty offices do that sort of thing from time to time.
> 
>   * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
> http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm
> 
> "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
> ----- Charles Shultz
>  
> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> Admitted to Practice in
> Maine and New Hampshire
> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Sat Feb 12 14:34:15 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:34:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
References: <54045D5F97C246558AD5083D5D86C01B@none8a46117901>
	<20110212004415.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <EA8E711112754B9A9AC9CC43BB076BB0@none8a46117901>

                            Well, Ray, its like this,  up here in Maine 
things are "different".
For example, if you ask someone what time it is, they are likely to say 
"1776 of course"

You really need 6 different jobs to live here, - one where you work for free 
to get your foot in the door so that when a paying position opens up, you're 
first in line for it. One that you work at to try and pay the bills, and 4 
others, one for each season of the year, spring, summer, fall and winter, 
and all of which are usually paid in cash so that you can make ends meet. IF 
the state knew you were paying your bills, they'd pass ligislation to put a 
stop to it as quickly as possible.
 All kidding aside, the cost of living up here is very, very high and the 
average rate of pay is pretty darn low.
Interesting, but not unique as I unde3rstand it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting


> Gosh, somebody was willing to work without pay and live in Maine! Smile! 
> I've never been there; I just hate the cold!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:17
> Subject: [bllaw] U.S. Attorney posting
>
>>
>>
>> ...disand this one is being paid.
>> By the way, the U.S. Attorney's office up here in Maine advertised for an 
>> uncompensated position a few months ago and it went rather quickly. I 
>> don't know this for certain, but I suspect that they use the posting to 
>> see if the attorney would be good for a contract position. U.S. Atty 
>> offices do that sort of thing from time to time.
>>
>>   * EXPERIENCED TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-15 U .S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 
>> CRIMINAL DIVISION ASSET FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING SECTION 
>> CHANTILLY, VA 11-CRM-AFMLS-012 All applications must be received by 11:59 
>> PM, Eastern Standard Time , February 24, 2011.
>> http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/11-crm-afmls-012.htm
>>
>> "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken"
>> ----- Charles Shultz
>>
>> Ross A. Doerr Esquire
>> Admitted to Practice in
>> Maine and New Hampshire
>> F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Sat Feb 12 14:46:21 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:46:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. attorney posting in WDC
Message-ID: <62377243E03547CE8AFEAB9A545C8FD5@none8a46117901>

Ever notice that jobs down in Washington are NEVER "uncompensated"?

  * ATTORNEY-ADVISOR GS-905-00 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO. OIG-2011-06 WASHINGTON, DC Closing date February 15, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/oig-2011-06.htm



Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 13 07:37:06 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:37:06 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
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References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6126DE5F578A46B29BA8992147420A0E@spike>

I am using the latest version of JAWS and I have no problem reading them 
usually. There are some keystrokes that work but I don't remember them off 
hand as I don't have to use Power Point that oftenl.
Chuck
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From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group 
> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 13 23:11:19 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:11:19 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides
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References: <318044.51249.qm@web112420.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<6126DE5F578A46B29BA8992147420A0E@spike>
Message-ID: <027f01cbcbd3$5476c940$fd645bc0$@com>

F5 takes you around PowerPoint.  That works in the older version..

-----Original Message-----
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I am using the latest version of JAWS and I have no problem reading them 
usually. There are some keystrokes that work but I don't remember them off 
hand as I don't have to use Power Point that oftenl.
Chuck
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From: "Mike Gilmore" <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] reading power point slides


> Is there any way to read power point slides with JAWS? When I open a group

> of slides, it'll tell me how many slides there are and I can use down 
> arrow to hear the titles. Is there any way to read them that saves 
> printing them out and scanning them?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 14 15:28:11 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
Message-ID: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      


From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Mon Feb 14 15:53:14 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:53:14 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
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I used the right mouse click, because the context menu didn't do it. 


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Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to
find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 16:11:20 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:11:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all changes
in document.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Mon Feb 14 16:15:50 2011
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:15:50 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
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Wonderful!  I had always wondered how to do this step with JAWS.  Thanks
Joe!

Sincerely,
Tim Ford
 

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E
to turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to
Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all 
>changes
in document.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28 AM
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Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm unable to
find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Mon Feb 14 17:31:28 2011
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:31:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
Message-ID: <A14E9ED14A3F4BDFA84052E1573F0DB0@HPLaptop>

What are track changes?

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or all changes
in document.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28 AM
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Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Feb 14 17:41:49 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:41:49 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal
 Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B85FDDF7A@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 6:24 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: FW: KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA



From: KCWWL-Announce at listbox.com [mailto:KCWWL-Announce at listbox.com]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 2:08 PM
To: KCWWL-Announce
Subject: KCWWL Announcement Position Announcement - Federal Public Defender Research and Writing Specialist - Tacoma, WA

Attached and copied below is a position announcement for our current opening for a Research and Writing Specialist in the Tacoma office of the Federal Public Defender.

POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT

RESEARCH AND WRITING SPECIALIST
POSITION #:                2011-1-ATTY
ANNOUNCED:        February 4, 2011
CLOSES:                When Filled


        The Federal Public Defender Office for the Western District of Washington, operating under authority of the Criminal Justice Act, 18 U.S.C. 3006A  to provide defense services in federal criminal matters in the federal courts, is seeking a Research and Writing Specialist.  Applicants must be law school graduates, who have been admitted to and are in good standing with their state bars.  A minimum of two years of legal experience and knowledge of criminal law is required. Experience in habeas law and handling federal criminal cases is strongly preferred.
        The Research and Writing Specialist will provide legal research and writing services to the Defender and Assistant Defenders in support of representations for indigent defendants in federal court. These services will require computer assisted legal research, development of legal strategies, drafting of motions, briefs, petitions for certiorari and legal memoranda.
        The selection criteria will consider the following areas:
*        a commitment to the representation of the indigent accused,
*        an established capacity or a demonstrated aptitude of excellence in criminal defense practice,
*        a commitment to personal and professional integrity,
*        an established capacity of effective communication with clients, witnesses, colleagues, staff and court personnel,
*        an established capacity for timely completion of assignments and projects,
*        an established capacity for independent and collaborative work.
This job is based in the Tacoma Office and is contingent on federal funding. It is full-time position with federal salary based on qualifications and experience. The salary range is $50, 628 to $155,500. The salary will be based on education and experience consistent with federal guidelines and regulations. The position is subject to mandatory Electronic Funds Transfer (direct deposit) and includes federal benefits. Employment will be considered provisional pending the successful outcome of a background fingerprint check. Federal Public Defender attorneys may not engage in the private practice of law. Further information about the job and the office is available at http://wawfpd.org.
        Applications for this position need to contain a letter of interest, resume, and two work references (including names, addresses and telephone numbers).  Applications will only be accepted if submitted by U.S. Mail to:

Thomas W. Hillier, II
Federal Public Defender
Attn: Human Resources
1601 Fifth Avenue, Suite 700
Seattle, WA   98101

NO TELEPHONE OR E-MAIL INQUIRIES PLEASE.

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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 14 18:01:36 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:01:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney Posting for Utah
Message-ID: <D8F12269E081440A80958C6C1ECAD322@none8a46117901>

  * ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DISTRICT OF UTAH 11-UT-01 Applications must be postmarked no later than February 18, 2011.
http://justice.gov/oarm/jobs/ausa-vac-anngfirerecovery302-11.htm  

"Acting is all about honesty. If you can fake that you've got it made."

- - - George Burns 

 

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From Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov  Mon Feb 14 19:11:20 2011
From: Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov (Borne, Craig D. (CMS/OEOCR))
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:11:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Senior EEO Specialist; GS 0260-11/12; Baltimore, MD;
 Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
Message-ID: <0818DBDD67C7E545B85BDE9A0E3A012B085DEE5D36@PL-EMSMB5.ees.hhs.gov>

* * * Job Announcement * * *

The EEO Compliance Team at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), located in Baltimore, Maryland, is seeking a senior level EEO Specialist (GS 0260-11/12).  CMS is very interested in hiring someone who is Schedule A eligible, meaning that they possess a "severe" disability.  For more information on the Schedule A hiring authority, please visit http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp

The candidate should possess the following skills:



                                                               i.      ability to frame federal employment discrimination claims, perform expert level legal analysis of claims citing relevant case law and regulation, draft professional-level complaint documents that require minimal revision



                                                             ii.      knowledge of the federal sector complaint process or experience demonstrating the ability to quickly learn the complaint process



                                                            iii.      ability to produce signature-ready documents in which details have been verified and proofed (dates and case numbers are correct; right names, verb tenses, he/she, etc. used; ability to follow office standard formatting)



                                                           iv.      willingness to follow OEOCR SOPs and to maintain data in iComplaints and our various charts



                                                             v.      ability to coordinate a timely EEO investigation

Interested candidates may forward a copy of their current resume and a cover letter to craig.borne at cms.hhs.gov<mailto:craig.borne at cms.hhs.gov>.

Regards,
Craig

"OEOCR  - the model of quality EEO and Civil Rights Services"

Craig Borne
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 21:41:10 2011
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:41:10 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <A14E9ED14A3F4BDFA84052E1573F0DB0@HPLaptop>
References: <543778.84995.qm@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<31B9BB1C188945DB9F8CC51D488AF664@Rufus>
	<A14E9ED14A3F4BDFA84052E1573F0DB0@HPLaptop>
Message-ID: <E7B19B74EB304C91977066A7BD514E32@Rufus>

Track Changes let's you see all the modifications in a Word document,
deletions, insertions, etc.  As an editor, you can either accept or reject
each individual modification.  Note that Track Changes must be enabled for
these modifications to be visibly recorded.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:31 PM
To: jsorozco at gmail.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What are track changes?

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
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Lubbock, TX 79401
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Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:11 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

What version of Office are you using?  If 2003, use Control + 
Shift + E to
turn on Track Changes.  Then, use Alt + S, then arrow Right to Changes.
>From this list you arrow Down to accept/reject one instance or 
all changes
in document.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] accepting track changes in Word

Just wondering how you accept track changes/edits in Word. I'm 
unable to find any keystrokes in the pull-down menus.

Mike


      

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From jorgeapaez at mac.com  Mon Feb 14 23:20:37 2011
From: jorgeapaez at mac.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:20:37 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] copyright regulations on sound track recordings
Message-ID: <45B52F36-C7B8-49EC-A17E-8E84A66D875E@mac.com>

Hi all:

Its Jorge writing.

Just wondering,
what are the regulations for controlling sound track rights in music stores?

For example: take the Star Wars series.

I've seen some CDs that have the "unofficial" Star Wars soundtrack, or "music inspired by…" before the movie title.

I was wondering,
would people have to pay copyright fees
in order to use the names,
just like they would in cover songs?

Or does the "unofficial/inspired by" prefixes give them exemption from this since they are only taking part of the name and it is their own work, and making it clear that it is NOT the original work,
but rather some form of it in a modified version, or simply a title that was inspired by the movie.

Thanks,

Jorge

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb 15 21:24:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:24:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
Message-ID: <CD7DBA1018EA4058A161D4E32A825A81@none8a46117901>

Has anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the affordable health care act?
That is, in a format other than PDF?

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov  Tue Feb 15 21:39:46 2011
From: Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov (Reyazuddin, Yasmin)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:39:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
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Message-ID: <C44CB32B3B29804C9CF73E0B85AB130205601874@MCG-EXB04.mcgov.org>

You can try to find it on the Library of Congress website under Thomas 
www.loc.gov/thomas. 


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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:25 PM
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Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act


Has anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the
affordable health care act? That is, in a format other than PDF?

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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Wed Feb 16 12:39:38 2011
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:39:38 EST
Subject: [blindlaw] Affordable health care act
Message-ID: <95440.73e7d15c.3a8d1f8a@aol.com>

It's posted on the Department of Health and Human Services website.   
_www.hhs.gov_ (http://www.hhs.gov) .  It's under "Affordable Care  Act" if you do 
a search.
 
Thomas also has it.
 
 
In a message dated 2/15/2011 4:28:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rumpole at roadrunner.com writes:

Has  anyone on the list found a good place to get a full copy of the 
affordable  health care act?
That is, in a format other than PDF?

Ross A. Doerr  Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct.  Admission: ME.  N.H.
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 16 14:50:02 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:50:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] editing power point slides
Message-ID: <120959.42525.qm@web112413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

When I open a power point document, it gives me the slide number and its corresponding title. How do I edit a specific slide?


      


From LBlake at nfb.org  Wed Feb 16 15:03:21 2011
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:03:21 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
Message-ID: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>

Don't Miss the Opportunity to hear Assistant Secretary of Education for Civil Rights Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary of Labor for Disability Employment Policy Kathleen Martinez, and EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum

at the

2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium

Bridging the Gap between the Disability Rights Movement and Other Civil Rights Movements

April 14-15, 2011
at the
National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute
Baltimore, Maryland

The 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss issues such as how to translate what worked for the civil rights movements to the disability rights movement, how the disability community can learn to speak with one voice while respecting and maintaining its diversity, and how to erase the misconception that disability rights is not a civil rights issue.

2011 plenary session presenters:


 *   Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights
 *   Ruth Colker, Distinguished University Professor and Heck Faust Memorial Chair in Constitutional Law, Ohio State University Moritz College of Law
 *   Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law
 *   Wade Henderson, President and CEO, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
 *   Scott C. LaBarre, Esquire, LaBarre Law Offices P.C.
 *   Kathleen Martinez, Assistant Secretary, Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy
 *   Marc Maurer, President, National Federation of the Blind
 *   Shannon Price Minter, Legal Director, National Center for Lesbian Rights
 *   Larry Paradis, Executive Director, Disability Rights Advocates
 *   Howard Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer (Designate), National Association of the Deaf
 *   Lynn Hecht Schafran, Senior Vice President and Director, National Judicial Education Program, Legal Momentum

2011 workshop facilitators:


 *   Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division
 *   Michael W. Bien, Managing Partner, Rosen, Bien & Galvan LLP
 *   Peter Blanck, University Professor and Chair, The Burton Blatt Institute
 *   Ella Callow, Legal Program Director, The National Center for Parents with Disabilities and their Families
 *   Kevin Cremin, Director of Disability and Public Benefits Law, Legal Services NYC
 *   Brian East, Senior Attorney, Advocacy, Inc.
 *   Leslie Ellis, Jury Consultant, TrialGraphix
 *   Donald Freedman, Partner, Rosenberg, Freedman & Goldstein LLP
 *   Douglas Kruse, Director, PhD program in Labor Relations and Human Resources, Rutgers University School of Management and Labor Relations
 *   Janet Lord, Senior Partner, BlueLaw International
 *   Laura Rovner, Associate Professor of Law, University of Denver Sturm College of Law
 *   Jo Anne Simon, Esquire
 *   Michael Waterstone, J. Howard Ziemann Fellow and Professor of Law, Loyola Law School

The theme keynote speaker will be Commissioner Chai Feldblum, United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Documentation for CLE credits will be provided.

Registration fee: $175
Student registration fee: $25

A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need.

To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp.  You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax.  Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site.

For additional information, contact:

Lou Ann Blake, JD
Law Symposium Coordinator
Jacobus tenBroek Library
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, Maryland 21230
Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221
E-mail: lblake at nfb.org<mailto:lblake at nfb.org>



From dricken at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 11:51:48 2011
From: dricken at gmail.com (Kendrick Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:51:48 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 13:51:52 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:51:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57653D1776D34668898E4736076999C6@none8a46117901>

    In my view, they are not correct.
I have found that billing hours and file numbers through a form created in, 
for example, Excel, is very, very easy to do.
I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but use of an excel format is easy 
to produce and customize and will be able to do almost everything a firm 
could ask for.
If you want a sample form, contact me off list and I will share the one I 
used for 5 years with you.
An excel format over one of those massive, expensive firm billing programs 
is arguably a "reasonable accommodation".
Don't go "government job"  unless you really want to.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From rfarber at jw.com  Thu Feb 17 15:01:44 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:01:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>

Kendrick - 

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Thu Feb 17 15:04:54 2011
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:04:54 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
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It might depend on whether the firm in question is going to a to a
computer-based case management / billable hours system, like my office
(a government agency) will be this fall.  The program selected by the
administration is most definitely NOT fully accessible, as my direct
supervisor and I found out when she tried to run the demo version on my
computer - it will magnify, but it will not narrate, and has many
"hidden" areas that would need to be tweaked in order for any narration
program to work.  Moreover, because of the amount of information on each
screen, the narrator is necessary even for a person like me with some
residual vision.  Once in place, the system will be almost the exclusive
manner for accessing electronic files and disclosure, and the only
acceptable way to track our work hours, something that even government
jobs require in many counties.  Administration promises to work on this
design, but I fear they will require me to work with an assistant,
essentially forcing me to be a passive by-stander.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

    In my view, they are not correct.
I have found that billing hours and file numbers through a form created
in, 
for example, Excel, is very, very easy to do.
I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but use of an excel format is
easy 
to produce and customize and will be able to do almost everything a firm

could ask for.
If you want a sample form, contact me off list and I will share the one
I 
used for 5 years with you.
An excel format over one of those massive, expensive firm billing
programs 
is arguably a "reasonable accommodation".
Don't go "government job"  unless you really want to.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working
at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment
they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and
alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour
system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that
is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From rfarber at jw.com  Thu Feb 17 15:15:36 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:15:36 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs
Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>

All -

My firm presently uses DocsOpen for document management.  While it is not the most friendly system, I can use it.  Later this year the firm is switching to IDocs.  Has anyone had experience with using Jaws and IDocs?

Randy

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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb 17 16:15:13 2011
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:15:13 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009d01cbcebd$dc36a2a0$7201a8c0@server>

Hello Kendrick,
I don't fully understand the nature of the law firms concern and billable 
hours.  Were they saying that you work more slowly than your sighted 
colleagues, or that there was some problem with you tracking your time?  If 
you could provide some more details it would be helpful.  Please feel free 
to respond on or off list.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:01:28 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:01:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs
In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F38E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D56D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Randy:

I have no experience with IDocs but will be quite interested to here if it is accessible.  If no one on this list has experience with IDocs, I suggest you contact the technology experts at the NFB  office in Baltimore, (410) 659-9314.

Noel


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:16 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Using Idocs

All -

My firm presently uses DocsOpen for document management.  While it is not the most friendly system, I can use it.  Later this year the firm is switching to IDocs.  Has anyone had experience with using Jaws and IDocs?

Randy



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:03:44 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:03:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney
 vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D571@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation (Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments (Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities.  Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants.  Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions.  Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board.  Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view and/or access publicly available information about you, including information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss (202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
US
Fax: 202-514-6603



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:04:39 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:04:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney
 vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D573@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>





_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation (Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments (Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities.  Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants.  Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions.  Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board.  Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view and/or access publicly available information about you, including information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss (202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
US
Fax: 202-514-6603



From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 21:06:51 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:06:51 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty - Civil Rights Div. Chief
Message-ID: <B481C9EABF3D45DE924BE54EF6B946E3@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION CHIEF, ES-0905 (SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE CLOSING DATE: MARCH 10, 2011 11-SES-CRD-001.  
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm  

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From devinenora at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 21:12:23 2011
From: devinenora at gmail.com (Nora Devine)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:12:23 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at
> a
> defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
> that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
> use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and
> alterative
> techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
> plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
> Criminal Appeals Clinic
> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
> The University of Mississippi Law School
>
> P.O. Box 2006
> University, MS 38677
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-- 
Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 17 21:22:10 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:22:10 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief
	Attorney vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D573@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <9434A152AE08492BB97C6FE3AE4CF529@none8a46117901>

Sorry Noel, I didn't realize you'd posted that Civil Rights Division job 
before I did.
Sorry for the dual posting folks.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney 
vacancy 11-SES-CRD-001






_____________________________________________
From: Johnson, B.Sue
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: DOJ Disability Rights Division Section Chief Attorney vacancy 
11-SES-CRD-001


Link:
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/drs-sechief-11-sescrd-001.htm

Text:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section
Chief, ES-0905 (Senior Executive Service)
Closing Date:  March 10, 2011
11-SES-CRD-001

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking a managing 
attorney to lead the Disability Rights Division in its protection of the 
rights of persons with disabilities under Titles I, II and III of the 
Americans with Disabilities Act ('ADA').  The ADA prohibits discrimination 
on the basis of disability in over seven million places of public 
accommodation, including all hotels, restaurants, retail stores, theaters, 
health care facilities, convention centers, parks, and places of recreation 
(Title III), in all activities of over 80,000 state and local governments 
(Title II), and in all employment practices of state and local government 
employers with 15 or more employees (Title I).  The ADA also establishes 
architectural accessibility requirements for new construction and 
alterations of buildings and facilities covered under Title II and Title 
III, which generally include all nonresidential buildings and facilities. 
Title III of the ADA also requires the Department to determine that a State 
law or local building code that has been submitted to the Department 
establishes accessibility requirements that meet or exceed the ADA's minimum 
requirements.  This position also serves as the Attorney General's liaison 
to the U.S. Access Board.  In addition, this position is also responsible 
for implementing the Department's responsibilities under section 508 of the 
Rehabilitation Act, the disability provisions of Executive Order 12250, and 
the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.

DUTIES:

The successful candidate will: Serve as the Chief of the Disability Rights 
Section to supervise, directly and through subordinate supervisors, 
approximately 54 attorneys and 65 non-attorney professionals and support 
employees.  Manage the development of the Section's enforcement strategy and 
implementation plan, including appropriate allocation of staff resources and 
oversight of personnel matters.  Plan and direct a nationwide program to 
enforce the applicable statutory provisions (Titles I, II and III of the 
ADA, Sections 504 and 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Small Business 
Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, the Genetic Information 
Nondiscrimination Act, and Executive Order 12250).  Initiate, direct and 
review investigations that arise from complaints regarding violations of the 
applicable federal statutes.  Supervise the preparation of cases, including 
drafting and filing of complaints, pre-trial discovery, motions practice, 
and trials.  Intervene in significant cases brought by private litigants. 
Review and evaluate the work of experts, consultants and court-imposed 
monitors.  Consult and advise the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil 
Rights Division and other Department of Justice officials regarding Section 
matters and policy matters affecting the applicable statutory provisions. 
Play a critical role in a range of policy, regulatory, and outreach issues 
including engaging in public speaking, as appropriate, to educate the public 
on the Section's work.  Coordinate with other components throughout the 
federal government to ensure comprehensive and collaborative effort to 
enforce the applicable statutory provisions.  Confer with U.S. Attorneys and 
oversee the handling of U.S. Attorney cases related to the applicable 
statutory provisions.  Resolve cases through settlement agreements, consent 
decrees, or litigation.  Prepare recommendations for or against appeal, 
including appeals to the Supreme Court, and review briefs or assist in the 
preparation of argument for cases being appealed.  Develop and maintain 
regulations implementing Titles II and III of the ADA.  Respond to requests 
from State and local governments to certify that their accessibility codes 
are equivalent to the ADA Standards for Accessible Design.  Provide 
technical assistance to private sector organizations that develop model 
access codes and standards.  Provide legal and policy guidance or disability 
rights training to other Federal agencies; serve as Department's liaison to 
the U.S. Access Board and participate in the development of minimum 
accessibility guidelines and other regulations developed by the Board. 
Provide technical assistance to the general public, to State and local 
governments, to private entities covered by Title III, and to persons with 
disabilities.  Develop subregulatory guidance explaining the requirements of 
the ADA.  Oversee the operations of the ADA Information Line and the ADA 
Mediation Program.  Maintain and expand the ADA website, providing current 
information on how to comply with the ADA.  Be able to work extended hours 
and handle a significant amount of travel.

QUALIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is required by law to review the 
executive qualifications of each new career appointee to the Senior 
Executive Service (SES) prior to appointment.  To be considered for this 
position, you must submit a written statement addressing the five (5) 
Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) listed below.  Failure to address both 
the mandatory technical/professional qualifications and the ECQs will 
adversely affect your chances for selection.

You must provide a supplemental statement that demonstrates strong 
possession of all of the technical/professional requirements as outlined 
below, and a narrative that separately addresses successful performance and 
creative leadership in prior managerial positions for each of the five 
Executive ECQs.  When addressing the ECQs, give examples and explain how 
often you used these skills, the complexity of the knowledge you possessed, 
the level of the people you interacted with, the sensitivity of the issues 
you handled, etc.  Your ECQ statement must not exceed 10 pages.

A. TECHNICAL/PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS

A proven record of accomplishment of managing a complex organization and 
tackling challenging organizational issues.

Ability to manage a diverse workforce that includes lawyers, non-lawyer 
professionals, including architects, investigators, technical assistance 
specialists, and support staff and Federal contractors.

Ability to establish an organizational vision, develop a strategic plan and 
implement strategic change, develop and advance policy initiatives, build 
coalitions, both within the organization and outside the organization, to 
effectively enforce the applicable statutory provisions.

Ability to consult and provide advice on complex legal and technical issues, 
and to resolve issues or negotiate agreements through effective oral and 
written communication.

Must have experience litigating cases and negotiating settlements.

Must have experience working with one or more of the applicable statutory 
provisions.

Must be a graduate from a law school accredited by the American Bar 
Association.

Must be an active member in good standing of a State bar.

B. EXECUTIVE/MANAGERIAL REQUIREMENTS

Leading Change: This core qualification involves the ability to bring about 
strategic change, both within and outside the organization, to meet 
organizational goals.  Inherent to this Executive Core Qualification is the 
ability to establish an organizational vision and to implement it in a 
continuously changing environment.

Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead people 
toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals.  Inherent to 
this Executive Core Qualification is the ability to provide an inclusive 
workplace that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation 
and teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts.

Results Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet 
organizational goals and customer expectations.  Inherent to this Executive 
Core Qualification is the ability to make decisions that produce 
high-quality results by applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, 
and calculating risks.

Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability to manage 
human, financial, and information resources strategically.

Building Coalitions: This core qualification involves the ability to build 
coalitions internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local 
governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign 
governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals.

For additional guidance, you are encouraged to review the Office of 
Personnel Management Guide to Senior Executive Service Qualifications and 
the Executive Core Qualifications before applying: 
http://www.opm.gov/ses/recruitment/ecq.asp.

Applicants who have completed a Candidate Development Program (CDP) and have 
had their ECQs certified by OPM must provide a copy of their certificate as 
part of their application.

BENEFITS:

The Department of Justice offers a comprehensive benefits package that 
includes, in part, paid vacation; sick leave; holidays; telework; life 
insurance; health benefits; and participation in the Federal Employees 
Retirement System.  This link provides an overview of the benefits currently 
offered to Federal employees: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:

You must be able to work extended hours and handle a significant amount of 
travel.

Employment is contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication 
of a background investigation.

It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and 
persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which 
screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment.

The Department of Justice encourages qualified applicants with disabilities, 
including individuals with targeted disabilities under 5 C.F.R. § 
213.3102(u), to apply. Targeted disabilities are deafness, blindness, 
missing extremities, partial or complete paralysis, convulsive disorder, 
mental retardation, mental illness, severe distortion of limbs and/or spine. 
Applicants who meet the qualification requirements and are able to perform 
the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable 
accommodation are encouraged to identify disabilities in response to the 
questions in the on-line application system seeking that information. For 
additional information about hiring authorities for applicants with targeted 
disabilities, please contact the Civil Rights Division's Disability Program 
Manager, Diane Petrie, at (202) 514-3934 or the Department's Equal 
Employment Opportunity Staff at (202) 616-4800; see also 
http://www.jan.wvu.edu/LEAD/index.htm  and 
http://www.opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp.

As part of the agency's review of your application, the agency may view 
and/or access publicly available information about you, including 
information publicly available on the internet, that is job-related and 
consistent with the merit system principles and prohibited personnel 
practices set forth in the Civil Service Reform Act, 5 U.S.C.§ § 2301, 2302. 
No information from any source may be used to discriminate for or against an 
applicant based on race, color, national origin,

Senior Executive Service (SES) pay is determined within the pay range, 
commensurate with experience, superior leadership qualifications, and/or 
other competencies consistent with the mission of the Civil Rights Division.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.  Position is not eligible for 
Alternate Work Schedule or Telework Programs.

As a condition of employment, all male applicants born after December 31, 
1959, must have registered for the selective service. If selected for this 
position, the applicant must sign a statement certifying his registration, 
or the applicant must demonstrate exempt status under the Selective Service 
Law.

DIRECT DEPOSIT: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary 
payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their 
choosing.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for 
Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless 
otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may 
apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that 
appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments 
would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission 
and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold 
dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a 
case-by-case basis.

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY / REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION: The U.S. Department 
of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer, and 
encourages qualified applicants from all backgrounds to apply. Except where 
otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination for or against an 
applicant because of color, race, religion, national origin, politics, 
marital status, disability, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, 
status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee 
organization, or on the basis of personal favoritism. The Department of 
Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and 
mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its 
affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that 
persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on 
the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides 
reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. 
If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and 
hiring process, please contact one of the Civil Rights Division's Reasonable 
Accommodation Coordinators, Kate Nicholson (202) 514-0547 or Carolyn Weiss 
(202) 514-6269. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will 
be made on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or 
posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting 
and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department or the 
organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information.

Relocation expenses are not authorized.

Entrance on duty is contingent upon completion of a pre-employment security 
investigation.

Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for 
Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless 
otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may 
apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that 
appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments 
would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission 
and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold 
dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a 
case-by-case basis.

There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to 
attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of 
Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in 
attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include 
that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting 
documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from 
Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. 
Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to 
claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 
10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation 
required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, 
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the 
types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). 
Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation 
associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of 
nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in 
the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement 
orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement 
was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was 
transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or 
retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more).

Individuals entering the SES career service for the first time are subject 
to a one-year probationary period.

HOW TO APPLY:

You must submit your application and all required information so that it 
will be received no later than 11:59 PM EST on the closing date of the 
vacancy announcement.  If materials are not received, your application will 
be evaluated solely on the information available and you may not receive 
full consideration or may not be considered eligible.

Due to the delayed delivery of mail, applicants must either fax or e-mail 
their application in by the closing date for this position. Please submit 
your application via fax at 202-514-6603 or by email to 
CRD.ATTYVACANCIES at USDOJ.GOV. If you are submitting your application via 
e-mail, please indicate the Vacancy Announcement Number and position title 
in the subject line.

Required Documents:  (are permissible w/ initial application only if 
specified in announcement.)

A cover letter (highlighting relevant experience) and resume.
If you are a current or recent federal employee, you must submit your most 
recent performance appraisal, or if none exists, a statement to that effect, 
along with a copy of your latest Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50).
Applications mailed using government postage and/or internal federal 
government mail systems are in violation of agency and postal regulations 
and will not be accepted.

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Diane Turner
Phone: 202-514-3934
Fax: 202-514-6603
Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov

Agency Information:
Department Of Justice/CRD
PLEASE DO NOT MAIL APPLICATIONS
PLEASE SEE "HOW TO APPLY" SECTION
WASHINGTON, DC 20530
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Feb 17 21:34:45 2011
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:34:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Deputy Regional Manager Supervisory Equal Opportunity
 Specialist - DHHS
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED7B8603D58D@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>


http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=96772443&JobTitle=Deputy+Regional+Manager+Supervisory+Equal+Opportunity+Specialist&q=&where=Seattle%2c+WA&brd=3876&vw=b&FedEmp=Y&FedPub=Y&x=113&y=0&pg=3&re=4&AVSDM=2011-02-11+14%3a38%3a00#duties

Job Title: Deputy Regional Manager Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist
Department: Department Of Health And Human Services
Agency: Office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services
Job Announcement Number: HHS-OS-DE-11-433449

SALARY RANGE:

$103,169.00 - $134,118.00 /year

OPEN PERIOD:

Friday, February 11, 2011 to Friday, February 25, 2011

SERIES & GRADE:

GS-0360-14

POSITION INFORMATION:

Full Time Career/Career Conditional

DUTY LOCATIONS:

1 vacancy - Seattle, WA

WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:

United States Citizens


JOB SUMMARY:
Become a part of the Department that touches the lives of every American! At the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) you can give back to your community, state, and country by making a difference in the lives of Americans everywhere. It is the principal agency for protecting the health of citizens. Join HHS and help to make our world healthier, safer, and better for all Americans.
This position is located in the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Office of the Secretary (OS), Office for Civil Rights (OCR).
This vacancy is also being announced concurrently with vacancy announcement HHS-OS-MP-11-433455 under merit promotion procedures. Please review that announcement to see if you are eligible for consideration under merit promotion procedures. NOTE: Applicants must apply separately for each announcement in order to be considered.
PHS Commissioned Corps Officers interested in performing the duties of this position within the Commissioned Corps (not as a career/career-conditional employee) are encouraged to apply under the merit promotion announcement indicated above.
Additional selections may be made from this announcement.


KEY REQUIREMENTS:

 *   U.S. Citizenship is required.



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Duties
Additional Duty Location Info:

1 vacancy - Seattle, WA


Directs the regional staff ranging from grades GS-2 through GS-14 engaging in civil rights and Privacy Rule work, in implementing an effective plan for civil rights and privacy of health information compliance programs in health and human services institutions and systems in the region and for headquarters.

Makes final decision on problems growing out of activities that subordinates cannot resolve because of precedent-setting nature or sensitivity, also resolves differences between key subordinates on important program matters

Advises the Regional Manager on the adequacy and effectiveness and of existing Departmental policies and programs for promoting compliance and participants in the formulation of major changes in Departmental policies.

Provides advice and information to the Regional Manager and Regional Operating Divisions and Staff Division personnel on civil rights and health privacy policy development and interpretation affecting their areas of responsibility; alerting them when major compliance action and publicity has the potential for impact on Departmental program activity.


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Qualifications and Evaluations
QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:
FOR THE GS-14:  You must have at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-13 or equivalent.  Specialized experience is defined as particular competencies/knowledge, skills and abilities to successfully perform the duties of the position and is typically in or related to the duties of the position and is typically in or related to the work of the position to be filled.
Examples of specialized experience includes:
Experience directing a multifaceted program involving highly technical and critical agency policy and regulatory programs

Experience providing guidance and direction to the staff resulting in a technical and operationally effective program that completes the office investigative responsibilities in identifying defects, problems and weaknesses in the compliance and enforcement process of the agency

Experience working with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), and implementing the Privacy Rule.

Foreign Education: If you are using education completed in foreign colleges or universities to meet the qualification requirements, you must show that the education credentials have been evaluated by a private organization that specializes in interpretation of foreign education programs and such education has been deemed equivalent to that gained in an accredited U.S. education program; or full credit has been given for the courses at a U.S. accredited college or university. For further information, visit: http://www.ed.gov/.

Conditions of Employment:
1. Security and Background Requirements: If not previously completed, a background security investigation will be required for all appointees. Appointment will be subject to the applicant's successful completion of a background security investigation and favorable adjudication. Failure to successfully meet these requirements may be grounds for appropriate personnel action. In addition, if hired, a background security reinvestigation or supplemental investigation may be required at a later time. Applicants are also advised that all information concerning qualifications is subject to investigation. False representation may be grounds for non-consideration, non-selection and/or appropriate disciplinary action.
2. E-Verify: If you are selected for this position, the documentation that you present for purposes of completing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Form I-9 will be verified through the DHS "E-Verify" System. Federal law requires DHS to use the E-Verify System to verify employment eligibility of all new hires, and as a condition of continued employment obligates the new hire to take affirmative steps to resolve any discrepancies identified by the system. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is an E-Verify Participant.
3. Direct Deposit: All Federal employees are required to have Federal salary payments made by direct deposit to a financial institution of their choosing.
4. All qualification requirements must be met by the closing date of the announcement.
5. Financial disclosure statement may be required.
6. One-year probationary period may be required.
7. Travel, transportation, and relocation expenses will not be paid.
8. Bargaining Unit Position: No
9. Drug Screening Required: No
10. Recruitment Bonus may be authorized:  No
11. Travel Required: Yes, 5% Domestic

HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED:

Once the application process is complete, a review of resume and supporting documentation will be made and compared against your responses to the assessment questionnaire to determine if you are qualified for this job.  If, after reviewing your resume and or supporting documentation, a determination is made that you have inflated your qualifications and or experience, you may lose consideration for this position.  Please follow all instructions carefully. Errors or omissions may affect your eligibility.  Qualified candidates will be assigned to a quality category (Best-Qualified, Well-Qualified, and Qualified).  The category assignment is a measure of the degree in which your background matches the competencies required for this position.

Qualified candidates assigned to a category are not given numeric ratings (scores); therefore, preference eligibles receive points, as prescribed by 5 U.S.C. § 3309.
Your qualifications will be evaluated on the following competencies (knowledge, skills, abilities and other characteristics):

Knowledge of the concepts, principles, and methods of civil rights laws, policies and/or related issues related to program delivery.

Ability to oversee staff who investigates complaints, conducts compliance reviews and provides technical assistance and outreach to health and human services institutional and its agencies.

Skilled in obtaining personal contacts with professional, government, community and political leaders in the Region.

Ability to exercise leadership and provide guidance and direction to staff resulting in a technical and operational effective program that completes the office investigative responsibilities in identifying defects, problems, and or weaknesses in the compliance and enforcement process.



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Benefits and Other Info

BENEFITS:
The Federal Government offers a comprehensive benefits package. Explore the major benefits offered to most Federal employees at http://www.usajobs.gov/ei/benefits.asp#icc.

OTHER INFORMATION:
If you are a veteran with preference eligibility and you are claiming 5-points veterans' preference, you must submit a copy of your DD-214 or other proof of eligibility. If you are claiming 10-point veterans' preference, you must also submit an SF-15, "Application for 10-Point Veterans' Preference" plus the proof required by that form. For more information on veterans' preference see http://www.usajobs.gov/veterans.asp.
Males born after December 31, 1959 must be registered or exempt from Selective Service (see http://www.sss.gov<http://www.sss.gov/>).
For information on "People with Disabilities" please visit http://opm.gov/disability/PeopleWithDisabilities.asp
Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program (ICTAP):  For information on how to apply as an ICTAP eligible see http://opm.gov/rif/employee_guides/career_transition.asp#ictap.  To be well-qualified and exercise selection priority for this vacancy, displaced Federal employees must be rated at 85.0 or above on the rating criteria for this position.


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How To Apply

HOW TO APPLY:
To begin the process, click the Apply Online button to create an account or log in to your existing USAJOBS account. Follow the prompts to complete the assessment questionnaire. Please ensure you click the Submit My Answers button at the end of the process.

Note: To return to a previously Saved or Incomplete application you may use the following link: https://applicationmanager.gov/.

To fax supporting documents you are unable to upload, complete this cover page http://staffing.opm.gov/pdf/usascover.pdf using the following Vacancy ID DF433449.  Fax your documents to 1-478-757-3144.

If you cannot apply online:

 1.  Click the following link to view and print the assessment questionnaire View Occupational Questionnaire<https://ApplicationManager.gov/Questionnaire.aspx?ID=4099091&PreviewType=Questionnaire>, and
 2.  Print this 1203FX form to provide your response to the assessment questionnaire http://www.opm.gov/forms/pdfimage/opm1203fx.pdf and
 3.  Fax the completed 1203FX form along with any supporting documents to 1-478-757-3144. Your 1203FX will serve as a cover page for your fax transmission.
The following documents are required and must be received by the closing date of this announcement:
1. Your Resume'
2. A complete Assessment Questionnaire
3. Other supporting documents:
    - Veterans Preference Documentation, if applicable
    - College transcript, if applicable
For Resume' and Application Tips visit: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI/resumeandapplicationtips.asp#icc

REQUIRED DOCUMENTS:

To apply for this position, you must provide a complete Application Package which includes:

1. Your Résumé
2. A complete Assessment Questionnaire
3. Other supporting documents:
         - Veterans Preference Documentation, if applicable
              - College Transcripts, if applicable

Note: You may submit an unofficial transcript or a list of college courses completed indicating course titles, credit hours, and grades received. An official transcript from an accredited educational institution is required if you are selected for the position.

The complete Application Package must be submitted by 11:59 PM (EST) on Friday, February 25, 2011.


AGENCY CONTACT INFO:
Bethesda Center Helpdesk
Phone: (888)478-4340
Fax: (478)757-3144
Email: QUICKQUESTIONS at PSC.GOV

Agency Information:
OHR Bethesda Operations Center
7700 Wisconsin Ave
Bethesda, MD 20814
Fax: (478)757-3144


WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT:
Once the online questionnaire is received you will receive an acknowledgement email that your submission was successful. The most highly qualified candidates will be referred to the hiring manager for further consideration and possible interview. We expect to make a selection within 45 days of the closing date of this announcement.

You will receive notice via email or by mail, if no email address was provided by you during the application process, once this process is completed (generally 4-6 weeks).

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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Thu Feb 17 22:43:23 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:43:23 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
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Message-ID: <322CB0AAAC8645CAAA48E9605A7C8B93@DanielKBeitzPC>

What they are telling you is wrong.  There is no reason you can't work in
the private sector.  I have done so for 18 years, billable hours and all.
People have bizarre perceptions about what a blind person can do, and you
can't listen to them.  If you are hard working, a good attorney and willing
to put in some extra time on occasion, you can make it.  But you must be
very efficient, and be aware of the technology that is out there, and know
how to use it thoroughly. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nora Devine
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:12 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and 
> working at a defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they 
> work at a firm that uses the billable hour format and what techniques 
> and equipment they use in their office to make things more efficient 
> completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and 
> alterative techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the 
> billable hour system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm 
> that is plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
> Criminal Appeals Clinic
> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of 
> Mississippi Law School
>
> P.O. Box 2006
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Nora Devine
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University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Thu Feb 17 23:16:57 2011
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:16:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
	<3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2DC81F35E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com>
Message-ID: <8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>

As a non-lawyer, why can't your assistant plug in the hours you work on a 
client's case
Steve?
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To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Kendrick -

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many 
techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as 
efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to 
address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more 
detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a 
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm 
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they 
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative 
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is 
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of 
Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Fri Feb 18 01:42:39 2011
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:42:39 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>
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	<8CFF8D7D24DC4752AB49EB1455DDF34C@StevePC>
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I had my secretary do that when I got out of school.  Its easy for them.
You can type your time in a word document or dictate it, and tey type it in.



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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:17 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

As a non-lawyer, why can't your assistant plug in the hours you work on a
client's case Steve?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farber, Randy" <rfarber at jw.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Kendrick -

I work at a firm that uses a billable hour system.  There are many
techniques that can be used.  As a last resort, if you just can't become as
efficient as other associates, then your compensation can be adjusted to
address the issue.  Please call me and we can discuss this issue in more
detail.

Randy
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4241 - Phone




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Kendrick Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: NFB Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours

Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my "Capability" and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW The University of
Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 20 17:12:17 2011
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:12:17 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] fun test
Message-ID: <006901cbd121$5449a6b0$7201a8c0@server>

Hello everyone,
I just received an email from some sort of attorney marketing firm.  They included the following questions for fun, to see how alert one is or isn't.
Best,
Dennis

1)  Is there a 4th of July in England?
2)  How many birthdays does an average man have?
3)  Some months have 31 days; how many have 28?
4)  If there are 3 apples and you take away 2, how many do you have?
5)  How many animals of each sex did Moses take on the ark?

From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb 21 10:20:35 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:20:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
In-Reply-To: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>
References: <EAEE231BE07AAA4E83308A41BCE2786E01B3581824@VA3DIAXVS641.RED001.local>
Message-ID: <C45DC8751B0441F888F9CF6CC88221A5@spike>

any movement toward web casting this event?
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blake, Lou Ann" <LBlake at nfb.org>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium


> Don't Miss the Opportunity to hear Assistant Secretary of Education for 
> Civil Rights Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary of Labor for Disability 
> Employment Policy Kathleen Martinez, and EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum
>
> at the
>
> 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium
>
> Bridging the Gap between the Disability Rights Movement and Other Civil 
> Rights Movements
>
> April 14-15, 2011
> at the
> National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute
> Baltimore, Maryland
>
> The 2011 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium will consist of plenary 
> sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, 
> practitioners, and advocates who will discuss issues such as how to 
> translate what worked for the civil rights movements to the disability 
> rights movement, how the disability community can learn to speak with one 
> voice while respecting and maintaining its diversity, and how to erase the 
> misconception that disability rights is not a civil rights issue.
>
> 2011 plenary session presenters:
>
>
> *   Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of Education Office 
> for Civil Rights
> *   Ruth Colker, Distinguished University Professor and Heck Faust 
> Memorial Chair in Constitutional Law, Ohio State University Moritz College 
> of Law
> *   Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington 
> College of Law
> *   Wade Henderson, President and CEO, The Leadership Conference on Civil 
> and Human Rights
> *   Scott C. LaBarre, Esquire, LaBarre Law Offices P.C.
> *   Kathleen Martinez, Assistant Secretary, Department of Labor, Office of 
> Disability Employment Policy
> *   Marc Maurer, President, National Federation of the Blind
> *   Shannon Price Minter, Legal Director, National Center for Lesbian 
> Rights
> *   Larry Paradis, Executive Director, Disability Rights Advocates
> *   Howard Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer (Designate), National 
> Association of the Deaf
> *   Lynn Hecht Schafran, Senior Vice President and Director, National 
> Judicial Education Program, Legal Momentum
>
> 2011 workshop facilitators:
>
>
> *   Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General, U.S. 
> Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division
> *   Michael W. Bien, Managing Partner, Rosen, Bien & Galvan LLP
> *   Peter Blanck, University Professor and Chair, The Burton Blatt 
> Institute
> *   Ella Callow, Legal Program Director, The National Center for Parents 
> with Disabilities and their Families
> *   Kevin Cremin, Director of Disability and Public Benefits Law, Legal 
> Services NYC
> *   Brian East, Senior Attorney, Advocacy, Inc.
> *   Leslie Ellis, Jury Consultant, TrialGraphix
> *   Donald Freedman, Partner, Rosenberg, Freedman & Goldstein LLP
> *   Douglas Kruse, Director, PhD program in Labor Relations and Human 
> Resources, Rutgers University School of Management and Labor Relations
> *   Janet Lord, Senior Partner, BlueLaw International
> *   Laura Rovner, Associate Professor of Law, University of Denver Sturm 
> College of Law
> *   Jo Anne Simon, Esquire
> *   Michael Waterstone, J. Howard Ziemann Fellow and Professor of Law, 
> Loyola Law School
>
> The theme keynote speaker will be Commissioner Chai Feldblum, United 
> States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
>
> Documentation for CLE credits will be provided.
>
> Registration fee: $175
> Student registration fee: $25
>
> A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be 
> available to individuals with demonstrated financial need.
>
> To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, 
> view the agenda, and register online, please visit 
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp.  You may also download from this 
> Web site a registration form to mail or fax.  Hotel information is also 
> available on the symposium Web site.
>
> For additional information, contact:
>
> Lou Ann Blake, JD
> Law Symposium Coordinator
> Jacobus tenBroek Library
> Jernigan Institute
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
> 200 East Wells Street
> at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221
> E-mail: lblake at nfb.org<mailto:lblake at nfb.org>
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 22 08:11:12 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:11:12 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <423EC1930C414EFFA02B7DFBB3C55714@spike>

There are various billing programs out there that address this issue. As a 
paralegal while I haven't been directly involved with this issue for some 
time I found that some of these programs were accessible with screen reading 
software when testing them several years ago when I was in paralegal school. 
The question here is what billing program is the firm in question using to 
keep track of its hours. Most of the manufacturers will provide trial 
versions so you can explore the accessibility of the programs with screen 
reading or other types of adaptive software.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kendrick Kennedy" <dricken at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hello All,



As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at a
defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?



I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and alterative
techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour system.
Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that is
plaintiff oriented.






-- 


Student Attorney
Kendrick R. Kennedy
Criminal Appeals Clinic
NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
The University of Mississippi Law School

P.O. Box 2006
University, MS 38677
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From tanyawilliams23 at aol.com  Tue Feb 22 16:10:47 2011
From: tanyawilliams23 at aol.com (Tanya Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:10:47 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation
Message-ID: <B24D282A-977D-4CA0-9105-BA1A956381C7@aol.com>

Hello everyone,
I recently joined this mailing list and was wondering if any of y'all could be speak from experience when it comes to studying for the LSAT.
If you could tell me what study material you used and if you used a private tutor. Any info would help me. Feel free to contact me off the mailing list.
Best,
Tanya

Sent from my iPhone 

From withat at msn.com  Tue Feb 22 16:35:01 2011
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:35:01 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation
References: <B24D282A-977D-4CA0-9105-BA1A956381C7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP192EB74691AE6A275FE4E68D2D80@phx.gbl>

Hi Tanya,

I used two sources.  1. Kaplan over-the-counter text.  I used a readr to 
help me with it.  2. A Kaplan private tutor.  It was spendy (over a thousand 
dollars for the time package I chose), but without it I wouldn't have earned 
a score that would have given me admission.  The tutoring package included 
the same texts that come with their classroom classes, which are very 
helpful: hundreds or even thousands of questions from former LSATs.  After 
not too much effort they provided me the texts in PDF format.  The tutor 
came to my house, which was very helpful.  It included the online lectures 
but they are in flash, so almost useless with a screen reader.

The other difference-maker was hiring a company named Admissions 
Consultants.  Give their website a look.  It is another expensive company, 
but their consultants are former admissions workers- unlike the people at 
Kaplan.  Mine was the former Dean of Admissions at the U of Penn Law School 
(Ivy League).

You'll find that dealing with LSAC and their accomodations office will be a 
bigger chore than prepping for the exam itself.  They have been sued by the 
NFB and I think the ACB.  A California attorney was suing on behalf of a law 
student or LS applicant a couple years ago; I'm not sure the status of that.

Good luck.  Give me a mail off list if you have any questions.

Jay
jayjohnston at lclark.edu
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tanya Williams" <tanyawilliams23 at aol.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT preparation


> Hello everyone,
> I recently joined this mailing list and was wondering if any of y'all 
> could be speak from experience when it comes to studying for the LSAT.
> If you could tell me what study material you used and if you used a 
> private tutor. Any info would help me. Feel free to contact me off the 
> mailing list.
> Best,
> Tanya
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Feb 23 04:32:03 2011
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:32:03 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinWAYaOZzH=Cbxh_cXVBOPdgVCXWcfdRn5Q3qLW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=vvL2HbugX64N2cjdYh_5m_d9e9xwFLn9Heai8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFA4D190980A4CB5B79434CCF4DB7CE9@spike>

based on my experiences working in several fields I have found that career 
counselors don't have a clue as to how blind people can adapt and over the 
years some of the worst have been with agencies serving the blind or blind 
themselves. the problem with many career counselors is they deal with 
hypothetical situations and hypothetical people. With much ingenuity and 
individual adaptation this issue and others can be dealt with.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nora Devine" <devinenora at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Private firms/Billable Hours


Hi Kendrick,

I am a 2L student and I have been told the same thing many times - i.e. I
would not be as efficient as others and thus my time would not be worth as
much as fully sighted attorneys'. Career counselors have told me the
government's schedule A hiring is my only chance of getting a job in the
legal field.

I don't believe my vision should prevent me from working as an attorney in a
private firm, but I often wonder how practicing attorneys with vision
issues, or any issue that is seen as making them "less efficient," make it
outside working as a solo-practitioner or for the government.

Thanks so much,

Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com

2011/2/17 Kendrick Kennedy <dricken at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> As a 3L student at the University of Mississippi Law School and working at
> a
> defense firm last summer. Could anyone comment on if they work at a firm
> that uses the billable hour format and what techniques and equipment they
> use in their office to make things more efficient completing their task?
>
>
>
> I was told I do excellent work but because of my “Capability” and
> alterative
> techniques I am not appealing to a firm that uses the billable hour 
> system.
> Therefore, I should apply for a government position or maybe a firm that 
> is
> plaintiff oriented.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Student Attorney
> Kendrick R. Kennedy
> Criminal Appeals Clinic
> NATIONAL CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW
> The University of Mississippi Law School
>
> P.O. Box 2006
> University, MS 38677
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-- 
Best Regards,

Nora Devine
Juris Doctor Candidate 2012
University of San Francisco School of Law
Tel: 510-508-4209
devinenora at gmail.com
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Thu Feb 24 17:49:53 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:49:53 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney Posting for Eastern California
Message-ID: <172D89E31BED401BB3E19F19CF8415E0@none8a46117901>

  * UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EASTERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SPECIAL ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY FRESNO, CALIFORNIA FEBRUARY 24, 2011 11-EDCA-10A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 11, 2011.
http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/sausaad11-edca-10a.htm 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Feb 25 23:21:03 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:21:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney postings - Iowa and Illinois
Message-ID: <94F50CFB51EB470BA726C8B6CADA311D@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF U.S. TRUSTEES REGION 12 DES MOINES, IA TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-12/13 ANNOUNCEMENT NO. R12-IA-11001 Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked by the closing date of March 25, 2011. [ http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/oarmvacannattydesmo11.htm ] 
  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE U.S. TRUSTEE PROGRAM REGION 11 - CHICAGO, ILLINOIS (1) TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-905-13/14/15 VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT #BSATTY-1124-VF Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked no later than midnight March 14, 2011.  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/chitrialattornbsattyvfIntern.htm ] 

Ross A. Doerr Esquire
Admitted to Practice in
Maine and New Hampshire
F. Ct. Admission: ME. N.H.

From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 26 03:40:34 2011
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (William Burley)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:40:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Virtual Paralegal Services
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 28 14:52:53 2011
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:52:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] practicing in front of Native American tribal courts?
Message-ID: <605698.113.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'm drafting a regulation for the feds and a comment was received regarding tribal courts. My question is: Do you have to be licensed to practice in front of a tribal court? If so, by whom? Is there a Native American tribal bar exam akin to state exams? Any information will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Mike


      


From agtolentino at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 15:04:29 2011
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:04:29 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] practicing in front of Native American tribal courts?
In-Reply-To: <605698.113.qm@web112408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Licensing requirements surely vary between the tribes, each being a distinct
sovereignty. For instance, from a job announcement I saw a while back, I
know that the Navajo Nation has a bar exam.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Mike Gilmore <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm drafting a regulation for the feds and a comment was received regarding
> tribal courts. My question is: Do you have to be licensed to practice in
> front of a tribal court? If so, by whom? Is there a Native American tribal
> bar exam akin to state exams? Any information will be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Mon Feb 28 21:40:18 2011
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:40:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting
Message-ID: <38F668FDBF774863B37B18156CBDC9D5@none8a46117901>

  * U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE U.S. TRUSTEE PROGRAM REGION 20 WICHITA, KANSAS (1) TRIAL ATTORNEY GS-905-12/13/14/15 ANNOUNCEMENT NO. FY11-01 Applications submitted by mail must be postmarked by the closing date of March 14, 2011.  http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/trialattywichitafy11-01.htm 

_______________________________________
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Maine and New Hampshire
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 23:32:29 2011
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:32:29 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] hot docs
Message-ID: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has experience with this document creation program?
My firm is exploring the use of hot docs for generating pleadings, motions
and the likes.




From rfarber at jw.com  Mon Feb 28 23:51:34 2011
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:51:34 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hot docs
In-Reply-To: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>
References: <001401cbd79f$c4abb3b0$4e031b10$@gmail.com>
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I have not used Hot Docs itself.  It is a system used to create forms.  My understanding is that it is quite expensive. 

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Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has experience with this document creation program?
My firm is exploring the use of hot docs for generating pleadings, motions and the likes.



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