[blindlaw] Mac Users Out There?

Sun Jun 19 22:00:53 UTC 2011

Hi Daniel.  

I think this e-mail helps.  The accessibility issues that I'm having with
Jaws is that it simply crashes too much for my taste and I've gone through
almost a week of not being able to work because FS broke my license and
nothing seemed to work to get it going again until today.  I wasn't able to
respond to a couple potential clients because my Jaws completely stopped
working and for some reason, the free screen readers out there wouldn't work
for me or I just simply did something wrong in trying to use them.  I'm just
tired of having a constant struggle with FS and it's either not working for
prolonged periods of time or intermittently not working for up to 5 minutes
or until I do a hard reboot.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:08 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mac Users Out There?

I'm no tech guy, but here are some of my observations and hard lessons I
have learned.  I hope this helps somebody.

I hear Macs are very accessible, but I've never tried one.  However, the
ipad and iphone are absolutely fantastic.  The only thing with a mac is that
microsoft office is not accessible at all.  Apple's word processor, pages,
is accessible, and is apparently 99% word compatible.  However, I might be
afraid of some formatting compatibility issues between pages and word,
although your docs should be pretty simple and maybe you won't have any.
That is the issue I would want to get feedback on though.  Email and web
access should not be a problem.  As far as third party programs which are
accessible on a mac, I hear good things, but have no firsthand knowledge.

If you don't mind me asking, What accessibility issues are you having with
jaws?  I know jaws has had issues with Westlaw, but all you have to do after
you log in is shut jaws off and turn it back on, and Westlaw seems to work
fine.  I don't even use the text addition of Westlaw, as I want all the
features the full website offers.  I am a trial attorney, and I use jaws
with few issues.  The only thing with jaws is that, in my experience, there
are some web pages it simply won't read completely.  Window-eyes will read
many pages that jaws will not read.  Jaws has never caught up with GW micro
on web access, but window-eyes doesn't have all the features that jaws has,
and can be more cumbersome to use.  Also, jaws works better in word and
outlook.  Also, window-eyes has some bugs right now with windows 7.

I did learn recently that if you are using jaws 12 in word, you will notice
that office 2010 is real responsive.  But apparently, in making word 2010
work so well, they somehow broke word 2003, because jaws 12 is very
unresponsive in word 2003.

If you have issues reading emails in word 2010 or 2007, you can display the
email in HTML format by using the following keystrokes:  alt H, A, V.
Office 2010 uses word, rather than the browser, to display emails, and they
can be hard to read.  But once you get use to the keystrokes to dump
unreadable emails into an HTML window, you can pretty much read most emails.

Hope this helps somebody out there.

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of William Burley, III
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:24 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] Mac Users Out There?

Hello all!

Are there any Mac users out there in the group?  I am considering possibly
switching from Windows because I'm having lots of issues with jaws and
accessibility.

If there are Mac users out there, can you give me the Pros and Cons to using
this in a legal world full of Windows users?  How do you make that work?
What apps do you use to make your legal practice effective with so many
others using Windows products?

Thanks for any information!

William Burley, III

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