From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 13:48:40 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:48:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability Message-ID: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, when it goes up to $75 If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities At: http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:09:39 2011 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:09:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Message-ID: Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 14:16:59 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:16:59 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> A few things come to mind: Get a Scansnap scanner so that you can have lengthy documents scanned for reading: Get a PDF conversion program such as PDF converter, so that you can take the scanned PDF documents and convert them to Word; Subscribe to as many law firm blogs and follow other law firms on Twitter to help you keep up with current developments in the law. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From jduncanhines at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:29:40 2011 From: jduncanhines at gmail.com (joe hines) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:29:40 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> Message-ID: <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> I use zoom tech and scan them and let the computer read them to me -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:17 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice A few things come to mind: Get a Scansnap scanner so that you can have lengthy documents scanned for reading: Get a PDF conversion program such as PDF converter, so that you can take the scanned PDF documents and convert them to Word; Subscribe to as many law firm blogs and follow other law firms on Twitter to help you keep up with current developments in the law. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 3 14:30:09 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:30:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Paul - I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 3 14:22:10 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:22:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C05B9C5BFDE45F89456E0A6FDCB9EDE@DHRL6TC1> You absolutely must have access to online research, such as westlaw, lexis, or one of the other low cost alternatives. The main obstacle is to learn to practice law, which is difficult for any young attorney. Jaws and a laptop can do most of what you need. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:43:19 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:43:19 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: hi randy, I wonder if you'd mind sharing your experiences by email on or off post. I realize a conversation would be much much better but as I am based in ireland, that probably isn't an option, unless you skype? I should say that I'm blind and just about to start with a large firm here. The systems are different but similar enough to make what you might have to say really interesting. All the best, GER On 10/3/11, Farber, Randy wrote: > Paul - > > I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I > started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. > Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I > graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate > economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last > few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying > for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited > me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited > experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual > limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large > quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share > with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm > or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology > should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times > in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the > practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Mon Oct 3 14:50:47 2011 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:50:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul: I am right here in Philly. Give me a call at the number listed below so we can talk. Look forward to hearing from you. Rod Alcidonis Principal Attorney Alcidonis Law Office, LLC 6622 Castor Avenue 1st Floor Philadelphia, PA 19149 Tel: (215) 305-8085 Fax: (215) 525-0999 Work: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and/or its attachment(s) is being sent by an attorney and may contain privileged and confidential information and may be protected by attorney client and work product privileges. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized and/or permitted to retain, disseminate, read, or copy this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Alcidonis Law Office at (215) 305-8085 or at Lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com, and permanently delete this message from your system. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Sullivan" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 3 14:57:38 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:57:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCF3@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> GER - Contach me off-list at Rfarber at JW.com and we can correspond off list. Do you have any particular concerns or questions. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:43 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice hi randy, I wonder if you'd mind sharing your experiences by email on or off post. I realize a conversation would be much much better but as I am based in ireland, that probably isn't an option, unless you skype? I should say that I'm blind and just about to start with a large firm here. The systems are different but similar enough to make what you might have to say really interesting. All the best, GER On 10/3/11, Farber, Randy wrote: > Paul - > > I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I > started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. > Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 15:07:22 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:07:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys (and judges) here get the information! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, when it goes up to $75 If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities At: http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 15:14:18 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:14:18 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: would it be possible to obtain the papers delivered? Maybe an email to the organizers would be productive. Ger On 10/3/11, Susan Kelly wrote: > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 15:17:06 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:17:06 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Paul - I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or signatures. The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on that. In the mean time - best of luck! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 15:28:40 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:28:40 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read documents "on the fly." Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Paul - I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or signatures. The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on that. In the mean time - best of luck! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From agtolentino at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 15:54:49 2011 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:54:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Message-ID: Hi Russell, Which ScanSnap model do you recommend? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28, "Russell J. Thomas, Jr." wrote: > Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read > documents "on the fly." > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Paul - > > I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term > experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable > to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division > here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and > transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This > is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, > where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it > now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or > signatures. > > The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I > used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors > who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously > can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has > not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program > is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through > an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an > office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which > is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is > huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on > that. > > In the mean time - best of luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 16:07:10 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:07:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <181E6FAC44D248FD8399CC5FA2B4BA65@mycomputer> Hi Susan: I will look into it. Ross A. Doerr Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 16:11:18 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:11:18 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov><414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Message-ID: <95BEDB9525094078A57725E8862A89FC@RThomas> There may be more, but I am aware of two. The larger model, for use in the office I believe is the 1500. That runs about $450.00. according to recent articles I have read, this scanner is the most popular among law firms, especially smaller firms. There is another model, (can't remember the number) the runs around $200.00 which is small enough to take with you to Court, or for other occasions when you are away from your office and need a scanner. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:55 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Hi Russell, Which ScanSnap model do you recommend? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28, "Russell J. Thomas, Jr." wrote: > Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read > documents "on the fly." > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Paul - > > I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term > experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable > to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division > here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and > transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This > is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, > where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it > now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or > signatures. > > The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I > used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors > who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously > can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has > not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program > is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through > an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an > office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which > is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is > huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on > that. > > In the mean time - best of luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c om From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 18:18:58 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:18:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> Hello Susan: I have heard back from the Louisiana Bar Assoc. regarding the possible taping of that "LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities" CLE. At this time, they have no plans to record it, but will get in touch with me if they decide to do so. They chose not to respond to my question abot the materials for said CLE being made available. Is there anyone on this list admitted to the LA bar? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 18:25:05 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:25:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F28D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Thanks for checking - hopefully someone will be close enough to be able to attend and let us know about what happens. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:19 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability Hello Susan: I have heard back from the Louisiana Bar Assoc. regarding the possible taping of that "LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities" CLE. At this time, they have no plans to record it, but will get in touch with me if they decide to do so. They chose not to respond to my question abot the materials for said CLE being made available. Is there anyone on this list admitted to the LA bar? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunn er.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 21:28:13 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:28:13 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Paul, I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. Marsha Drenth Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6513 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 22:02:47 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:02:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Two U.S. Atty postings Message-ID: <5019B5EEF411436B97276997FBAB7F86@mycomputer> a.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Northern District of Georgia 12-GAN-AUSA-01 Applications must be received by 5:30 p.m. EST, Friday, October 7, 2011. b.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Districts of Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands Term Appointment - May be Converted to Permanent or Extended. The position is open for five business days after posting. From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 15:38:01 2011 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:38:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Message-ID: Hello all, Thanks very much for all your replies. Your collective thoughts were enlightening, and I'll be sure to ask more questions as things progress. All the best, Paul R. Sullivan, Jr. On 10/3/11, Marsha Drenth wrote: > Paul, > > I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro > area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city > Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could > help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other > Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. > > Marsha Drenth > Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I > graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate > economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last > few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying > for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited > me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited > experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual > limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large > quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share > with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm > or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology > should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times > in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the > practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. > com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6513 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6514 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6514 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Oct 5 12:26:33 2011 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:26:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045D9B992D99@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Good luck to you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Paul, I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. Marsha Drenth Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6513 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 5 16:30:09 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:30:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting - California - uncompensated Message-ID: <9C8F7F89B81A44E3BE61782195E29C67@mycomputer> United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California October 5, 2011 12-EDCA-01A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, October 21, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us Thu Oct 6 14:25:10 2011 From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED)) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:25:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Jobs: Openings at MN Department of Human Services - Legal Services St. Paul Message-ID: <2CBA05A7F34B34439FA5DDAC7DF99E4A01E73D@055-CH1MPN1-003.055d.mgd.msft.net> fyi _____________________________________________ From: Crozier, Ouida G (DHS) Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:37 PM Subject: Openings at MN Department of Human Services Here are two high-level openings at the MN Department of Human Services for members of the legal profession. Share as appropriate. Ouida =========================================================================== Job Classification: STATE PROG ADMIN MGR PRINC Job Class Option: Legal Services Working Title: OIG Chief General Counsel Salary Range: $ 33.65-$ 48.25 hourly, $ 70,261-$ 100,746 annually Location: St. Paul Hiring Agency: Human Services Dept Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers Employment Conditions: Permanent, Full-time Posting Number: 11DHS001264 Closing Date: 10/31/2011 Go to https://statejobs.doer.state.mn.us/JobPosting/View?_posting=11DHS001264 to see the full listing about this job. =========================================================================== Job Classification: STATE PROG ADMIN MGR PRINC Job Class Option: Legal Services Working Title: DHS Chief General Counsel Salary Range: $ 33.65-$ 48.25 hourly, $ 70,261-$ 100,746 annually Location: St. Paul Hiring Agency: Human Services Dept Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers Employment Conditions: Permanent, Full-time Posting Number: 11DHS001263 Closing Date: 10/31/2011 Go to https://statejobs.doer.state.mn.us/JobPosting/View?_posting=11DHS001263 to see the full listing about this job. =========================================================================== From michael.steven.n at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 17:20:39 2011 From: michael.steven.n at gmail.com (Michael S. Nunez) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:20:39 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] California Style Guide Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I write to ask the community how they access the California Style manual. My understanding is that unlike the Bluebook, no web-based version of the California Style Guide exists. I have an inaccessible PDF of the guide, and running it through Kurzweil will probably generate errors and strip some of the formatting nuances from the document. Hence, I seek other solutions. Has anyone successfully obtained an accessible version in word? Thanks, Mike From rumpole at roadrunner.com Thu Oct 6 20:39:59 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:39:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bur. of Prisons - Texas Message-ID: <160A46767D7141648975BC476CB74A85@mycomputer> a.. United States Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons Federal Correctional Complex Consolidated Legal Center Beaumont, Texas Attorney-Advisor GS-905-12/13 The position will remain open until filled, but applications must be submitted no later than October 19, 2011. From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Fri Oct 7 16:01:53 2011 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:01:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 7 16:09:48 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:09:48 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student In-Reply-To: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> References: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Very nice! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:02 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Oct 7 16:57:20 2011 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:57:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045D9B9937DE@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Great job. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:10 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Very nice! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:02 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 11 09:10:29 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:10:29 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs In-Reply-To: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> References: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> Message-ID: <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> as usual I'm behind in emails but these would be the strongest arguments against the sign. It is important to note that under the ADA a person cannot be forced to identify with a disability or accept services and a disability is confidential even if it is an obvious one to the public. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs > You might be able to argue that by placing the sign, the Village is > providing a reasonable accommodation (a weak argument though) and that you > have > the right to refuse a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. You might > also be able to argue that by erecting such a sign, the Village is > violating > your right to confidentiality under the ADA (also a weak argument). > > I suggest you contact Shawn Mayo, Executive Director at BLIND, Inc. I > believe that the City of Minneapolis recently put up signs similar to > yours > near the training center, but Shawn, her staff, and the affilliate > successfully advocated to get them removed. Shawn's email address is > _smayo at blindinc.org_ (mailto:smayo at blindinc.org) . > > Good luck, > Ronza > > > In a message dated 9/11/2011 7:53:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > billreif at ameritech.net writes: > > I don't know in what manner the sign can be said to discriminate. I'm > sure that whoever put it up has the mistaken belief that drivers in the > area may be more cautious about hitting you. > > There is nevertheless much objectionable about such a sign. It > signifies that you are owed some special degree of care, and can't look > out for yourself. Of more concern is the message such a sign would send > criminals of various sorts. Were I a criminal, I would relish the > opportunity to wait for someone who can't visually identify me. I could > thus sneak in behind them to do whatever I cared to with them or their > property; and they would have no way of picking me out of a lineup or > even providing a description in the absence of other witnesses. Please > demand that the City remove its inadvertent way of making you a target. > > cordially, > Bill > > > On 9/11/2011 5:02 PM, Leslie Fairall wrote: >> Hello: >> >> I have moved to the state of Rhode Island to take another position. >> I'm renting a single family residence and have lived here for a month. >> >> To my horror, the town of Cranston has erected a sign that says "blind >> person" directly across the street from my home. I would not have >> known this if a friend of mine who picks me up for church hadn't told >> me. It is a bright yellow sign with black lettering. >> >> I will be contacting City Hall both by phone and in writing to have >> the sign removed. I have a few questions. >> >> >> 1. Would this be considered discrimination under the Americans with >> Disabilities or some other act? >> 2. Is singling out a person because of disability a form of >> discrimination? My knee-jerk reaction is yes, but I want to get the >> facts straight. >> 3. What is a reasonable timeframe to request that the sign be removed? >> In my rough draft, I stated seven days. >> >> 4. Are their any other points I should make that would strongly >> encourage them to remove the sign? >> >> Thanks for any and all advice. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/billreif%40ameritech.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 21:15:10 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:15:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs In-Reply-To: <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> References: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> Message-ID: I'd probably take the sign down at 1 am and hang it in my living room lol. Just a fun idea. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2011, at 4:10 AM, wrote: > as usual I'm behind in emails but these would be the strongest arguments against the sign. It is important to note that under the ADA a person cannot be forced to identify with a disability or accept services and a disability is confidential even if it is an obvious one to the public. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:22 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs > > >> You might be able to argue that by placing the sign, the Village is >> providing a reasonable accommodation (a weak argument though) and that you have >> the right to refuse a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. You might >> also be able to argue that by erecting such a sign, the Village is violating >> your right to confidentiality under the ADA (also a weak argument). >> >> I suggest you contact Shawn Mayo, Executive Director at BLIND, Inc. I >> believe that the City of Minneapolis recently put up signs similar to yours >> near the training center, but Shawn, her staff, and the affilliate >> successfully advocated to get them removed. Shawn's email address is >> _smayo at blindinc.org_ (mailto:smayo at blindinc.org) . >> >> Good luck, >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 9/11/2011 7:53:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> billreif at ameritech.net writes: >> >> I don't know in what manner the sign can be said to discriminate. I'm >> sure that whoever put it up has the mistaken belief that drivers in the >> area may be more cautious about hitting you. >> >> There is nevertheless much objectionable about such a sign. It >> signifies that you are owed some special degree of care, and can't look >> out for yourself. Of more concern is the message such a sign would send >> criminals of various sorts. Were I a criminal, I would relish the >> opportunity to wait for someone who can't visually identify me. I could >> thus sneak in behind them to do whatever I cared to with them or their >> property; and they would have no way of picking me out of a lineup or >> even providing a description in the absence of other witnesses. Please >> demand that the City remove its inadvertent way of making you a target. >> >> cordially, >> Bill >> >> >> On 9/11/2011 5:02 PM, Leslie Fairall wrote: >>> Hello: >>> >>> I have moved to the state of Rhode Island to take another position. >>> I'm renting a single family residence and have lived here for a month. >>> >>> To my horror, the town of Cranston has erected a sign that says "blind >>> person" directly across the street from my home. I would not have >>> known this if a friend of mine who picks me up for church hadn't told >>> me. It is a bright yellow sign with black lettering. >>> >>> I will be contacting City Hall both by phone and in writing to have >>> the sign removed. I have a few questions. >>> >>> >>> 1. Would this be considered discrimination under the Americans with >>> Disabilities or some other act? >>> 2. Is singling out a person because of disability a form of >>> discrimination? My knee-jerk reaction is yes, but I want to get the >>> facts straight. >>> 3. What is a reasonable timeframe to request that the sign be removed? >>> In my rough draft, I stated seven days. >>> >>> 4. Are their any other points I should make that would strongly >>> encourage them to remove the sign? >>> >>> Thanks for any and all advice. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/billreif%40ameritech.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 12 18:37:02 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:37:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Two U.S. federzl Atty postings Message-ID: a.. Detail Opportunity for an Experienced DOJ Trial Attorney, Senior Trial Attorney, or Assistant U.S. Attorney Office of the Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator Washington, D.C. Closing Date: October 24, 2011. a.. U.S. Department of Justice U.S. Trustee Program -- Corpus Christi, Texas (1) Assistant United States Trusted Vacancy Announcement # Corpus AUST 11-03 Applications must be postmarked no later than October 19, 2011. From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Wed Oct 12 20:42:55 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:42:55 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Oct 12 20:48:19 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:48:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 12 23:22:25 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:22:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting Texas Message-ID: <5D813EFE4B8747F2A4C66661E203A0BB@mycomputer> a.. Special Assistant U.S. Attorney U.S. Attorney's Office Eastern District of Texas Plano, Texas Vacancy Announcement No.: 11-EDTX-04 (SAUSA) Closing Date: October 26, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 17:09:58 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:09:58 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Thu Oct 13 18:42:09 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:42:09 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 19:00:45 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:00:45 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F301@EVS02.central.pima.gov> We're finding that with JustWare as well - apparently no one thinks attorneys can have any vision issues. Very disturbing, indeed - good luck, in any event! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:42 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Oct 13 19:06:49 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:06:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 19:32:55 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:32:55 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 20:35:01 2011 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:35:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR Message-ID: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Thu Oct 13 20:41:22 2011 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:41:22 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR In-Reply-To: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> References: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: Did the document have the name of an legal clinic? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 15:37, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ > <20111013160719202.doc> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 20:46:28 2011 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:46:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR References: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: <3F819E1B46324AD0AC333C42318A1C89@hometwxakonvzn> No. Here it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dittman, Robert" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] OCR > Did the document have the name of an legal clinic? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 15:37, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: > >> I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ >> <20111013160719202.doc> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20111013160719202.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 66098 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Oct 13 23:36:53 2011 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:36:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: I believe that ProLaw and JustWear are case management software. If that is correct, the accessibility of legal case management software has been an issue over many years raised on this list. We, as a group, need to figure out how to get this problem resolved. Susan: Do you work for a federal agency? If so, you have Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act to rely on in demanding that the government purchase accessible software. If you work for a state agency, perhaps that state has an executive order or baby Section 508 statute you could use. However, is there any accessible case management software? If there is such a thing, I am not aware of it. Noel Nightingale -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:33 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 14 15:01:22 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:01:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F30A@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Yes, they are both case management systems. In our office, JustWare is being introduced to replace our case tracking system, which was written in-house many years ago and actually does relatively well (with only a few problems) with JAWS. The main purpose, however, seems to be so that the administration can keep constant tabs on what we are doing every second of the work-day - even more concerning for those of us who need a bit more time to get through the "simple" tasks made not simple by the inaccessibility problem. Unfortunately, the office is not a federal agency - it's a county agency in Arizona. And Arizona is not showing the best track record on any form of civil rights lately, including physical access issues for a quadriplegic co-worker. But we'll keep pestering them, trust me! And maybe we should all attempt to get an accessible file management package created - who knows, could be worthwhile beyond just those of us who can't see the computer in the standard way. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:37 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS I believe that ProLaw and JustWear are case management software. If that is correct, the accessibility of legal case management software has been an issue over many years raised on this list. We, as a group, need to figure out how to get this problem resolved. Susan: Do you work for a federal agency? If so, you have Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act to rely on in demanding that the government purchase accessible software. If you work for a state agency, perhaps that state has an executive order or baby Section 508 statute you could use. However, is there any accessible case management software? If there is such a thing, I am not aware of it. Noel Nightingale -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:33 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 14 22:13:12 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:13:12 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Atty job postings, PA., NJ and SC Message-ID: <920B7ED0C110419299E0B76299D78068@mycomputer> a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Northeast Regional Office (Consolidated Legal Center) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania GS-905-12/13 This position is open until filled, but no later than October 28, 2011. a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Northeast Regional Office Consolidated Legal Center Fort Dix, New Jersey Senior CLC Attorney GS-905-14 This position is open until filled, but no later than October 28, 2011. a.. Attorney-Advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Southeast Regional Office Consolidated Legal Center Edgefield, South Carolina GS This position is open until filled, but no later than October 19, 2011. a.. Attorney-Advisor / GS-11 to GS-12 Foreign Claims Settlement Commission Applications should be submitted as early as possible but, in any event, not later than October 28, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 13:54:16 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:54:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin Message-ID: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and internet explorer? With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages that needs more work with respect to accessibility? Sincerely, Craig Spencer Esq. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 15 14:21:33 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:21:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Hello Craig: Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site that needs more accessibility work. Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? Ross A. Doerr Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 15 14:24:02 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:24:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0939F200F48F4ADEB05A357DE9C8DF5C@mycomputer> Also, has anyhone on the list had really good luck with your state bar association's Casemaker web site? That is another one that is pretty rugged to navigate with speech software. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > From womankind at earthlink.net Sat Oct 15 14:31:03 2011 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:31:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is touch.linkedin.com At 09:54 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: supposed to be their accessible page? Stephanie >touch.linkedin.com From womankind at earthlink.net Sat Oct 15 14:32:20 2011 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:32:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Message-ID: And for thos of us who use window eyes? At 10:21 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: >Hello Craig: >Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have >found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. >Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site >that needs more accessibility work. >Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn >with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? >Ross A. Doerr Esq. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM >Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >>Hello everyone, >>I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and >>internet explorer? >>With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >>I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >>Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages >>that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >>Sincerely, >>Craig Spencer Esq. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>for blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com >> >> >>----- >>No virus found in this message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/womankind%40earthlink.net From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 14:48:43 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:48:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003d01cc8b49$896f2da0$9c4d88e0$@gmail.com> My understanding is that touch.linkedin.com is supposed to be their page for mobile devices. When I go on that page, I don't notice a difference with that "touch" page and the regular page. Unlike Facebook where there is a noticeable difference between facebook.com and m.facebook.com........ where m.facebook.com is more accessible I guess because it has less clotter. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Ortoleva Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:31 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin Is touch.linkedin.com At 09:54 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: supposed to be their accessible page? Stephanie >touch.linkedin.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai l.com From dandrews at visi.com Sun Oct 16 23:12:55 2011 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:12:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Message-ID: At one time, Linked-In was very accessible. Lately it has gone downhill some, although I have been able to do what I want so far. I have never found a sign-off link on the page, just close it. Either it isn't visible to a screen reader, or there isn't one. Dave At 09:21 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: >Hello Craig: >Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have >found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. >Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site >that needs more accessibility work. >Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn >with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? >Ross A. Doerr Esq. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM >Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >>Hello everyone, >>I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and >>internet explorer? >>With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >>I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >>Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages >>that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >>Sincerely, >>Craig Spencer Esq. From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 17 10:24:32 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:24:32 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with the page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 11:01:00 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:01:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> Message-ID: <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> There is supposedly a "settings" page where you can change your pass word and other account settings. However, jaws does not seem to find that link. Linkedin even has a help section that supposed to answer the question "can't find the settings and sign out link". There answer is that you must hover the mouse over your name on the top of the page and you will find the links. Jaws does not find it. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:25 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with the page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai l.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 17 11:48:00 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:48:00 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com><39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41FE148A92964C85BBA3D7592602B7A0@spike> I can get to those features by going to my "Account" and through my "profile. Chuck P.S. for those on LinkedIn feel free to connect at http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-krugman/b/357/722 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > There is supposedly a "settings" page where you can change your pass word > and other account settings. However, jaws does not seem to find that > link. > > > Linkedin even has a help section that supposed to answer the question > "can't > find the settings and sign out link". > There answer is that you must hover the mouse over your name on the top of > the page and you will find the links. > Jaws does not find it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:25 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with > the > page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Spencer" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >> Hello everyone, >> I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 >> and >> internet explorer? >> With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >> I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >> Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking >> pages >> that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >> Sincerely, >> Craig Spencer Esq. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 15:55:16 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:55:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting Southern CA. Message-ID: a.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of California 11-SDCA-02 Application materials must be postmarked by the deadline date of October 31, 2011. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 17:11:55 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:11:55 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Atty posting - WDC Message-ID: <50E5DF1AC779447FA5D6F69DCF3B0840@mycomputer> Attorney-Adviser Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel Washington Application Deadline is October 28, 2011. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 22:22:35 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:22:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting San Francisco-uncompensated Message-ID: a.. Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Northern District of California - San Francisco Vacancy Announcement No. 11-NDCA-08-E Applications must be received by Monday, October 31, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rumpole at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 21 20:24:08 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:24:08 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Fed. Bur. of Prisons attorney opening Message-ID: <2A64B33F9FD84C639391AD7349A25F35@mycomputer> a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Office of General Counsel Industries, Education & Vocational Training Federal Prison Industries, Inc. Attorney-advisor GS-905-12/13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than November 4, 2011. From dandrews at visi.com Sat Oct 22 02:43:15 2011 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:43:15 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Lives Worth Living" Disability Rights Documentary Premieres on PBS Series Independent Lens; October 27 Message-ID: > >Rarely in the history of media has a documentary >captured the authentic voices of disability >leaders as they reframe the debate on the >disability rights movement in America. This >October 27 premiere of Lives Worth Living >coincides with National Disability Employment >Awareness Month, and gives “Independent Lens” a >whole new meaning as this film recalibrates the >focus that chronicles the Independent Living Movement. >This film is for everyone with – and without - >disabilities. We encourage students to watch >and discuss in school; employees to watch (with >their Employee Resource Groups); families to >experience it with friends. Blog about it, talk about it. >Let PBS know this is the kind of authentic programming that is important. >Lives Worth Living IS the film worth watching! > >Lead On..... > >Tari > >Tari Hartman Squire, CEO >EIN SOF Communications, Inc. >"We Mean Business" >11601 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 500 >Los Angeles, CA 90025 >310-650-0595 - mobile >310-473-5954 - office >Tari at EINSOFcommunications.com > > > > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT >Voleine Amilcar, ITVS 415-356-8383 x >244 >voleine_amilcar at itvs.org >Mary >Lugo >770-623-8190 >lugo at negia.net >Cara >White >843-881-1480 >cara.white at mac.com > >For downloadable images, visit >http://pressroom.pbs.org > >LIVES WORTH LIVING Premieres on the PBS Series INDEPENDENT LENS >Thursday, October 27 at 10 PM During >National Disability Employment Awareness Month > >Powerful Documentary Chronicles the History of >America’s Disability Rights Movement > >While there are over 54 million Americans living >with disabilities, Lives Worth Living is the >first television history of their decades-long >struggle for equal rights. Produced and directed >by Eric Neudel, Lives Worth Living is a window >into a world inhabited by people with an >unwavering determination to live their lives >like everyone else, and a look back into a past >when millions of Americans lived without access >to schools, employment, apartment buildings, and >public transportation – a way of life >unimaginable today. Lives Worth Living premieres >on the Emmy® Award-winning PBS series >Independent Lens, on Thursday, October 27, 2011 >at 10 PM (check local listings) to coincide with >National Disability Employment Awareness Month. > >Lives Worth Living traces the development of the >disability rights movement from its beginning >following World War II, when thousands of >disabled veterans returned home, through its >burgeoning in the 1960s and 1970s, when it began >to adopt the tactics of other social movements. >Told through interviews with the movement’s >pioneers, legislators, and others, Lives Worth >Living explores how Americans with a wide >variety of disabilities ­ including blind, deaf, >physical, intellectual and psychiatric ­ banded >together to change public perception and policy. >Through demonstrations and legislative battles, >the disability rights community finally secured >equal civil rights with the 1990 passage and >signing into law of the Americans with >Disabilities Act, one of the most transformative >pieces of civil rights legislation in American history. > > >[] > > > > > > >[] > > >[] > > >To learn more about the film, and the issues >involved, visit the film’s companion website at >www.pbs.org/independentlens/. >Get detailed information on the film, watch >preview clips, read an interview with the >filmmaker, and explore the subject in depth with >links and resources. The site also features a >Talkback section, where viewers can share their ideas and opinions. > > >About the Participants, in Order of Appearance >Fred Fay, early leader in the >disability >rights movement (1944 – 2011) >Ann Ford, director of the Illinois National Council on Independent Living >Judy Heumann, leading disability rights >activist, Co-Founder of World Institute on Disability >Judi Chamberlin, Mental Patients Liberation >Front, a movement for the rights and dignity of >people with mental illness (1944-2010) >Dr. William Bronston, former staff physician at >the notorious Willowbrook State School who was >dismissed after agitating for change >Bob Kafka, established ADAPT of Texas, a >disability rights advocacy organization >Zona Roberts, counselor, UC Berkeley's >Physically Disabled Students’ Program and Center >for Independent Living, Berkeley; mother of >disability rights pioneer Ed Roberts >Pat Wright, Former Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund >John Wodatch, Former Chief, Disability Rights >Section, Civil Rights Division, U. S. Department of Justice >Jack Duncan, Former Counsel, U.S. House of Representatives >Mary Jane Owen, disability rights activist, >philosopher, policy expert, and writer >Marca Bristo, CEO, Access Living of Metropolitan >Chicago, former chair of the National Council on >Disability, and leader in the disability rights movement >Michael Winter, Former director, Berkeley Center for Independent Living >Lex Frieden, Former director, National Council >on the Handicapped (now National Council on Disability) >Dr. I. King Jordan, President Emeritus, Gallaudet University >Jeff Rosen, alumni leader, Gallaudet University >Senator Tom Harkin, (D-Iowa), co-author of the ADA >Bobby Silverstein, Former Chief Counsel, Senate >Subcommittee on Disability Policy >Richard Thornburgh, U.S. Attorney General, 1988-1991 >Tony Coelho, Former Congressman (D-California), >House Majority Whip, 1986-1989, author of the ADA >Justin Dart, leader in the disability rights movement (1930 – 2002) > >About the Filmmaker >Eric Neudel (Producer/Director) has produced, >directed, and edited numerous award-winning >films for public television. His many credits >include Eyes on the Prize, AIDS: Chapter One, >LBJ Goes to War, Tet 1968, Steps, After the >Crash, The Philippines and The US: In Our Image, >Body and Soul, and more. He was a visiting >senior critic and lecturer in film at Yale >University and served as producer, director, and >editor for Harvard University’s Derek Bok Center >for Teaching and Learning, and Spectrum Media’s >program series on the art and craft of teaching. >Neudel was also a photographer and video >production consultant, teaching video production >to a team working for the Compass Project in >Malawi. Photographs from his two years in Malawi >were exhibited in the Sandra and Phillip Gordon >Gallery at The Boston Arts Academy in October 2007. > >He also served as story consultant for Row Hard >No Excuses, an award-winning documentary about >two middle aged American men who set out to >cross the Atlantic in a rowboat. Most recently >he served as a photographer in Rwanda for The >Boston Globe, where he directed, produced, and >edited a companion documentary about the >Maranyundo Middle School, which was built on the >site of one of the worst concentration camps and killing fields in Rwanda. > > >About Independent Lens >Independent Lens is an Emmy® Award-winning >weekly series airing Thursday nights at 10 PM on >PBS. The acclaimed anthology series features >documentaries and a limited number of fiction >films united by the creative freedom, artistic >achievement, and unflinching visions of their >independent producers. Independent Lens features >unforgettable stories about a unique individual, >community or moment in history. Presented by the >Independent Television Service (ITVS), the >series is supported by interactive companion >websites and national publicity and community >engagement campaigns. Further information about >the series is available at >www.pbs.org/independentlens. >Independent Lens is jointly curated by ITVS and >PBS; it is funded by the Corporation for Public >Broadcasting (CPB), a private corporation funded >by the American people, with additional funding >provided by PBS and the National Endowment for >the Arts. The series producer is Lois Vossen. > >### > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbd3.png Type: image/png Size: 23560 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbe2.png Type: image/png Size: 24612 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbf2.png Type: image/png Size: 24134 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lives Worth Living Release FINAL1.docx Type: application/msword Size: 432010 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 22 20:03:19 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:03:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Casemaker Message-ID: <5C3564D7D9AB482CB8FE0AADF9DA6ED0@mycomputer> Has anyone on the list tried to use the new casemaker elite software available through their bar association for any research? It uses a google like search box and gets you results fairly quickly - but I can't gt any of them to open in the case maker elite screen - the search results aren't being recognized by JAWS. I'm using JAWS 12 on XP pro. I stopped using the regular CaseMaker because the screen was so darn difficult to navigate. I attended a seminar recently about using the new casemaker elite software, and find it great up to the point when I'd like to read my results without emailing or downloading them to myself. The download and email function sure seems as if it could be a bit easier to use as well. Anyone out there been using it? From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 02:21:29 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:21:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 13:01:04 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:01:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim Atinachi can help as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 13:31:22 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:31:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marsha, Guiding eyes gave us a book of statutes for each state. The book contains all the laws for all of the 50 states. I can transcribe the Pennsylvania statutes and send those to you if you would like. I worked as a paralegal in Pennsylvania. There is a listing of statutes online. The book guiding eyes gave us is a good place to start. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:21 PM, "Marsha Drenth" wrote: > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 15:56:52 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:56:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Message-ID: Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 24 16:13:57 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:13:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01cc9267$ef3645e0$cda2d1a0$@wiennergould.com> There are basically two ways I have dealt with this issue. Currently, my employer simply provides a paid driver. This is cost effective for them because I can work, and therefore be productive, on the road. Moreover, since I brought in a significant account, it is worth it to them. However, you are unlikely to be able to bring in much work right now, so you are going to have to work out a different arrangement. I worked out an intern arrangement with several universities where my office brings on interns for credit and no pay, and they drive me around and assist with other tasks. This works out well, although sometimes you can get a lack of interest for certain semesters. The other option is to use paid drivers on a purely as needed basis. Again, this can be challenging, but you can sometimes find a stay-at-home mom or a retired person that doesn't mind being flexible and making a few extra bucks. My guess though is that at many firms, you won't be traveling much early in your career, as you will be stuck at a desk doing research. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 16:19:45 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:19:45 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A05C@tiger> Hi Kristi, First I am not a lawyer, but as a blind employee, I face the same issues. If the service in Austin is a Para transit service, It will probably not work for you. You need to control your own transportation. Over the years I have used public transit, I have hired a driver, shared rides work co-workers, and at one time hitch hiked. I do not recommend that last one, since the seventies are long gone. As far as small towns, and jobs go, there are a couple of approaches. One is to get the job, and then deal with hiring transportation. I would recommend researching the town first, so you have some options. Remember, if you discuss this during an interview (and you should, because the employer will wonder too) you can talk about the options you could use. Not the subjunctive. You do not have to use the ones you talk about. This has been my approach. You can choose to interview for jobs where you have transportation easily available. If you use public transit as opposed to Para transit, you plan your schedule around the bus schedule. If you must get somewhere at once, you call a cab, assuming there is one. It helps to know a few drivers. If there is no cab, find a retired person who wants to do things, and has a car, and put them on retainer for certain hours. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 24 16:20:16 2011 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:20:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Ms. Wilkins: I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. Please feel free to call. Dan McBride, Attorney Fort Worth 817 847 0023 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 24 16:26:33 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:26:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A202CDCE0B6D@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Kristi - I am a transaction attorney in Houston. While I do not have to go to court, I do need to get to meetings. I have a set ride to and from the office each day. When I have to go to a meeting, I do not use the Metrolift because it takes too much time. Instead I use either a Metro Cab (a service for the disabled) or a regular taxi cab to get to meetings. Since I am located downtown I have no problem getting a taxi cab. Also, what I pay for taxi cabs is less than the $200 per month that I would pay for parking if I was driving. Also, I have a trip to Austin planned for this Friday, October 28, and have some free time before my late afternoon flight. If you would like to get together mid-afternoon to discuss issues, give me a call at 713-752-4241. Randy Farber -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 16:29:06 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:29:06 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with > transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs > (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able > to > get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live > in > Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It > can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short > notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on > their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to > use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been > popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services > Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able > to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the > transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 24 16:48:04 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:48:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free to call. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 17:03:29 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:03:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Thank you all so much for your help and advice! The job market is so tight right now that I really hate to limit my search because of my disability. It helps to know that it can be managed. I had never thought of the intern idea, and I could see that working out for a college student looking to find a mentor. As far as hiring a driver (a couple of you mentioned that), did you just put an ad in the paper or on Craigslist? Did you run a background check or anything? I am a young woman and am a little nervous about hiring a stranger to drive me around. Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free to > call. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering > this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication > in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Mr. McBride, > > Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? > > Kristi > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride > wrote: > > > Ms. Wilkins: > > > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > > Please feel free to call. > > > > Dan McBride, Attorney > > Fort Worth > > 817 847 0023 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > > > Good morning, > > > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > > requires me to be able to plan my trips > > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > > > Thanks, > > Kristi > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > > al.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > > gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40gmail.com > From RJaquiss at nfb.org Mon Oct 24 17:11:11 2011 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:11:11 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E77A00BF4@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: I am an Access Technology Specialist working for the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute. If I need to go somewhere on my own, I take the bus or call a cab. If I need to go to Washington DC, Iwould probably get a cab to the nearest train station and catch a train to Union Station. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40nfb.org From RJaquiss at nfb.org Mon Oct 24 17:24:04 2011 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:24:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E77A00C08@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: When I hired readers, I usually put an add in my church's bulletin. I would absolutely not put an add in a local paper. When I was in college, I had an arrangement with the local LaLeche League. It was a bit odd, but the mothers in the group were glad for some income and were available when I needed them. My solution was unconventional, but it worked. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422 From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 17:27:38 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:27:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865FAE8191@tiger> I have advertised both ways. Craig's list is cheaper. If it meets your comfort level, run a background check. Perhaps you could do so at their expense, and reimburse those who pass? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Thank you all so much for your help and advice! The job market is so tight right now that I really hate to limit my search because of my disability. It helps to know that it can be managed. I had never thought of the intern idea, and I could see that working out for a college student looking to find a mentor. As far as hiring a driver (a couple of you mentioned that), did you just put an ad in the paper or on Craigslist? Did you run a background check or anything? I am a young woman and am a little nervous about hiring a stranger to drive me around. Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free > to call. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email > messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the > individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying > to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Mr. McBride, > > Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? > > Kristi > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride > wrote: > > > Ms. Wilkins: > > > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > > Please feel free to call. > > > > Dan McBride, Attorney > > Fort Worth > > 817 847 0023 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org > > [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > > > Good morning, > > > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I > > am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you > > deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for > > some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned > > about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > > requires me to be able to plan my trips > > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it > > is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I > > have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely > > don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are > > you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers > > understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > > > Thanks, > > Kristi > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcgl > > ob > > al.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins% > > 40 > > gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From gpc at browngold.com Mon Oct 24 17:31:56 2011 From: gpc at browngold.com (Greg Care) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:31:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania guide dog law Message-ID: Someone recently asked about any Pennsylvania laws regarding guide dogs. Pennsylvania has split up its "White Cane Law" into different parts of the statutory code, so the part dealing with access to places of public accommodation while accompanied by a service animal is pasted below. Please note that this is a criminal law, enforced by the local prosecutor. Because I am not licensed to practice in Pennsylvania, I'm afraid that I can't be of greater assistance on this. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 7325. Discrimination on account of guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal. A person is guilty of a summary offense if he, being the proprietor, manager or employee of a theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public accommodation, entertainment or amusement, refuses, withholds or denies any person, who is using a guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal that has been certified by a recognized authority to assist a person, because of the physical disability, blindness or deafness of the user, or who is training a guide, signal or support dog or other aid animal for or from a recognized authority for such a user, the use of or access to any accommodation, advantage, facility or privilege of such theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public entertainment or amusement. Gregory P. Care Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. Baltimore Street Suite 1700 Baltimore, Maryland 21202 Phone: 410-962-1030 ext. 1316 Fax: 410-385-0869 gpc at browngold.com www.browngold.com Please consider the environment before printing this email Confidentiality Notice This e-mail may contain confidential information that may also be legally privileged and that is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized agent of the recipient, please be advised that any dissemination or copying of this e-mail, or taking of any action in reliance on the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me immediately by use of the reply button, and then delete the e-mail from your system. Thank you! From gpc at browngold.com Mon Oct 24 17:36:34 2011 From: gpc at browngold.com (Greg Care) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:36:34 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania guide dog law Message-ID: It just occurred to me that you might also be interested in the following PA statutes regarding guide dogs: Title 75 - Vehicles § 3549. Blind pedestrians. (a) General rule.--The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to any totally or partially blind pedestrian carrying a clearly visible white cane or accompanied by a guide dog and shall take such precautions as may be necessary to avoid injuring or endangering the pedestrian and, if necessary, shall stop the vehicle in order to prevent injury or danger to the pedestrian. (b) Effect of absence of cane or dog.--This section shall not be construed to deprive a totally or partially blind pedestrian not carrying a cane or not being guided by a dog of the rights and privileges conferred by law upon pedestrians crossing streets or highways, nor shall the failure of a totally or partially blind pedestrian to carry a cane or to be guided by a guide dog upon the streets, highways or sidewalks of this Commonwealth be held to constitute contributory negligence in and of itself. (c) Penalty.--A violation of subsection (a) constitutes a summary offense punishable by a fine of not less than $50 nor more than $150. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 5511. Cruelty to animals. (a) Killing, maiming or poisoning domestic animals or zoo animals, etc.-- (1) A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if he willfully and maliciously: (i) Kills, maims or disfigures any domestic animal of another person or any domestic fowl of another person. (ii) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any domestic animal of another person or domestic fowl of another person. (iii) Harasses, annoys, injures, attempts to injure, molests or interferes with a dog guide for an individual who is blind, a hearing dog for an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service dog for an individual who is physically limited. Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this paragraph shall be sentenced to pay a fine of not less than $500. (2) A person commits a felony of the third degree if he willfully and maliciously: (i) Kills, maims or disfigures any zoo animal in captivity. (ii) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any zoo animal in captivity. (2.1) (i) A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he willfully and maliciously: (A) Kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise. If a person kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures a dog guide for an individual who is <>, a hearing dog for an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service dog for an individual who is physically limited, whether belonging to the individual or otherwise, that person, in addition to any other applicable penalty, shall be required to make reparations for veterinary costs in treating the dog and, if necessary, the cost of obtaining and training a replacement dog. (B) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise. (ii) Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this paragraph shall be sentenced to pay a fine of not less than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more than two years, or both. The court may also order a presentence mental evaluation. A subsequent conviction under this paragraph shall be a felony of the third degree. This paragraph shall apply to dogs and cats only. (iii) The killing of a dog or cat by the owner of that animal is not malicious if it is accomplished in accordance with the act of December 22, 1983 (P.L.303, No.83), referred to as the Animal Destruction Method Authorization Law. (3) This subsection shall not apply to: (i) the killing of any animal taken or found in the act of actually destroying any domestic animal or domestic fowl; (ii) the killing of any animal or fowl pursuant to the act of June 3, 1937 (P.L.1225, No.316), known as The Game Law, or 34 Pa.C.S. §§ 2384 (relating to declaring dogs public nuisances) and 2385 (relating to destruction of dogs declared public nuisances), or the regulations promulgated thereunder; or (iii) such reasonable activity as may be undertaken in connection with vermin control or pest control. (b) Regulating certain actions concerning fowl or rabbits.-- A person commits a summary offense if he sells, offers for sale, barters, or gives away baby chickens, ducklings, or other fowl, under one month of age, or rabbits under two months of age, as pets, toys, premiums or novelties or if he colors, dyes, stains or otherwise changes the natural color of baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl, or rabbits or if he brings or transports the same into this Commonwealth. This section shall not be construed to prohibit the sale or display of such baby chickens, ducklings, or other fowl, or such rabbits, in proper facilities by persons engaged in the business of selling them for purposes of commercial breeding and raising. (c) Cruelty to animals.-- (1) A person commits an offense if he wantonly or cruelly illtreats, overloads, beats, otherwise abuses any animal, or neglects any animal as to which he has a duty of care, whether belonging to himself or otherwise, or abandons any animal, or deprives any animal of necessary sustenance, drink, shelter or veterinary care, or access to clean and sanitary shelter which will protect the animal against inclement weather and preserve the animal's body heat and keep it dry. (2) (i) Except as provided in subparagraph (ii), a person convicted of violating paragraph (1) commits a summary offense. (ii) A person convicted for a second or subsequent time of violating paragraph (1) commits a misdemeanor of the third degree if all of the following occurred: (A) The action or omission for which the person was convicted for a subsequent time was performed on a dog or cat. (B) The dog or cat was seriously injured, suffered severe physical distress or was placed at imminent risk of serious physical harm as the result of the person's action or omission. (3) This subsection shall not apply to activity undertaken in normal agricultural operation. (d) Selling or using disabled horse.--A person commits a summary offense if he offers for sale or sells any horse, which by reason of debility, disease or lameness, or for other cause, could not be worked or used without violating the laws against cruelty to animals, or leads, rides, drives or transports any such horse for any purpose, except that of conveying the horse to the nearest available appropriate facility for its humane keeping or destruction or for medical or surgical treatment. (e) Transporting animals in cruel manner.--A person commits a summary offense if he carries, or causes, or allows to be carried in or upon any cart, or other vehicle whatsoever, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner. The person taking him into custody may take charge of the animal and of any such vehicle and its contents, and deposit the same in some safe place of custody, and any necessary expenses which may be incurred for taking charge of and keeping the same, and sustaining any such animal, shall be a lien thereon, to be paid before the same can lawfully be recovered, or the said expenses or any part thereof remaining unpaid may be recovered by the person incurring the same from the owner of said creature in any action therefor. For the purposes of this section, it shall not be deemed cruel or inhumane to transport live poultry in crates so long as not more than 15 pounds of live poultry are allocated to each cubic foot of space in the crate. (e.1) Transporting equine animals in cruel manner.-- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person commits a summary offense for each equine animal if the person carries, or causes or allows to be carried, any equine animal in or upon any conveyance or other vehicle whatsoever with two or more levels stacked on top of one another. A person who violates this subsection on a second or subsequent occasion commits a misdemeanor of the third degree for each equine animal transported. (f) Hours of labor of animals.--A person commits a summary offense if he leads, drives, rides or works or causes or permits any other person to lead, drive, ride or work any horse, mare, mule, ox, or any other animal, whether belonging to himself or in his possession or control, for more than 15 hours in any 24 hour period, or more than 90 hours in any one week. Nothing in this subsection contained shall be construed to warrant any persons leading, driving, riding or walking any animal a less period than 15 hours, when so doing shall in any way violate the laws against cruelty to animals. (g) Cruelty to cow to enhance appearance of udder.--A person commits a summary offense if he kneads or beats or pads the udder of any cow, or willfully allows it to go unmilked for a period of 24 hours or more, for the purpose of enhancing the appearance or size of the udder of said cow, or by a muzzle or any other device prevents its calf, if less than six weeks old, from obtaining nourishment, and thereby relieving the udder of said cow, for a period of 24 hours. (h) Specific violations; prima facie evidence of violation.-- (1) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person crops, trims or cuts off, or causes or procures to be cropped, trimmed or cut off, the whole or part of the ear or ears of a dog. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cropping, trimming or cutting off the whole or part of the ear or ears of a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent any person from causing or procuring the cropping, trimming or cutting off of a dog's ear or ears by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with an ear or ears cropped, trimmed or cut off and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this subsection by the person except as provided for in this subsection. (iv) A person who procures the cropping, trimming or cutting off of the whole or part of an ear or ears of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (2) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person debarks a dog by cutting, causing or procuring the cutting of its vocal cords or by altering, causing or procuring the alteration of any part of its resonance chamber. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cutting the vocal cords or otherwise altering the resonance chamber of a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring a debarking procedure by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with the vocal cords cut or the resonance chamber otherwise altered and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the cutting of vocal cords or the alteration of the resonance chamber of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (3) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person docks, cuts off, causes or procures the docking or cutting off of the tail of a dog over five days old. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from docking, cutting off or cropping the whole or part of the tail of a dog when the dog is at least 12 weeks of age and the procedure is performed using general anesthesia and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring the cutting off or docking of a tail of a dog by a veterinarian as provided in this paragraph. (iii) The provisions of this section shall not prevent a veterinarian from surgically removing, docking, cutting off or cropping the tail of a dog between five days and 12 weeks of age if, in the veterinarian's professional judgment, the procedure is medically necessary for the health and welfare of the dog. If the procedure is performed, it shall be done in accordance with generally accepted standards of veterinary practice. (iv) The possession by any person of a dog with a tail cut off or docked and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (v) A person who procures the cutting off or docking of a tail of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (4) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person surgically births or causes or procures a surgical birth. (ii) The provisions of this section shall not prevent a veterinarian from surgically birthing a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent any person from causing or procuring a surgical birthing by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with a wound or incision site resulting from a surgical birth unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the surgical birth of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (v) This paragraph shall not apply to personnel required to comply with standards to minimize pain to an animal set forth in section 2143(a)(3) of the Animal Welfare Act (Public Law 89-544, 7 U.S.C. § 2131 et seq.), trained in accordance with section 2143(d) of the Animal Welfare Act, who work in a federally registered research facility required to comply with the Animal Welfare Act under the guidance or oversight of a veterinarian. (5) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person cuts off or causes or procures the cutting off of the dewclaw of a dog over five days old. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cutting the dewclaw and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring the procedure by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with the dewclaw cut off and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the cutting off of the dewclaw of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (h.1) Animal fighting.--A person commits a felony of the third degree if he: (1) for amusement or gain, causes, allows or permits any animal to engage in animal fighting; (2) receives compensation for the admission of another person to any place kept or used for animal fighting; (3) owns, possesses, keeps, trains, promotes, purchases, steals or acquires in any manner or knowingly sells any animal for animal fighting; (4) in any way knowingly encourages, aids or assists therein; (5) wagers on the outcome of an animal fight; (6) pays for admission to an animal fight or attends an animal fight as a spectator; or (7) knowingly permits any place under his control or possession to be kept or used for animal fighting. This subsection shall not apply to activity undertaken in a normal agricultural operation. (i) Power to initiate criminal proceedings.--An agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals, incorporated under the laws of the Commonwealth, shall have the same powers to initiate criminal proceedings provided for police officers by the Pennsylvania Rules of Criminal Procedure. An agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals, incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth, shall have standing to request any court of competent jurisdiction to enjoin any violation of this section. (j) Seizure of animals kept or used for animal fighting.-- Any police officer or agent of a society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth, shall have power to seize any animal kept, used, or intended to be used for animal fighting. When the seizure is made, the animal or animals so seized shall not be deemed absolutely forfeited, but shall be held by the officer or agent seizing the same until a conviction of some person is first obtained for a violation of subsection (h.1). The officer or agent making such seizure shall make due return to the issuing authority, of the number and kind of animals or creatures so seized by him. Where an animal is thus seized, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide such care as is reasonably necessary, and where any animal thus seized is found to be disabled, injured or diseased beyond reasonable hope of recovery, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide for the humane destruction of the animal. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of subsection (h.1) shall order the forfeiture or surrender of any abused, neglected or deprived animal of the defendant to any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth and shall require that the owner pay the cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal. (k) Killing homing pigeons.--A person commits a summary offense if he shoots, maims or kills any antwerp or homing pigeon, either while on flight or at rest, or detains or entraps any such pigeon which carries the name of its owner. (l) Search warrants.--Where a violation of this section is alleged, any issuing authority may, in compliance with the applicable provisions of the Pennsylvania Rules of Criminal Procedure, issue to any police officer or any agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth a search warrant authorizing the search of any building or any enclosure in which any violation of this section is occurring or has occurred, and authorizing the seizure of evidence of the violation including, but not limited to, the animals which were the subject of the violation. Where an animal thus seized is found to be neglected or starving, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide such care as is reasonably necessary, and where any animal thus seized is found to be disabled, injured or diseased beyond reasonable hope of recovery, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide for the humane destruction of the animal. The cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal shall be paid by the owner thereof and claims for the costs shall constitute a lien upon the animal. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may require that the owner pay the cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal. No search warrant shall be issued based upon an alleged violation of this section which authorizes any police officer or agent or other person to enter upon or search premises where scientific research work is being conducted by, or under the supervision of, graduates of duly accredited scientific schools or where biological products are being produced for the care or prevention of disease. (m) Forfeiture.--In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may order the forfeiture or surrender of any abused, neglected or deprived animal of the defendant to any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth. (m.1) Fine for summary offense.--In addition to any other penalty provided by law, a person convicted of a summary offense under this section shall pay a fine of not less than $50 nor more than $750 or to imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or both. (m.2) Prohibition of ownership.--Notwithstanding any provision of law and in addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may order the prohibition or limitation of the defendant's ownership, possession, control or custody of animals or employment with the care of animals for a period of time not to exceed the statutory maximum term of imprisonment applicable to the offense for which sentence is being imposed. (n) Skinning of and selling or buying pelts of dogs and cats.--A person commits a summary offense if he skins a dog or cat or offers for sale or exchange or offers to buy or exchange the pelt or pelts of any dog or cat. (o) Representation of humane society by attorney.--Upon prior authorization and approval by the district attorney of the county in which the proceeding is held, an association or agent may be represented in any proceeding under this section by any attorney admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania and in good standing. Attorney's fees shall be borne by the humane society or association which is represented. (o.1) Construction of section.--The provisions of this section shall not supersede the act of December 7, 1982 (P.L.784, No.225), known as the Dog Law. (p) Applicability of section.--This section shall not apply to, interfere with or hinder any activity which is authorized or permitted pursuant to the act of June 3, 1937 (P.L.1225, No.316), known as The Game Law or Title 34 (relating to game). (q) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection: "Animal fighting." Fighting or baiting any bull, bear, dog, cock or other creature. "Audibly impaired." The inability to hear air conduction thresholds at an average of 40 decibels or greater in the better ear. "<>." Having a visual acuity of 20/200 or less in the better eye with correction or having a limitation of the field of vision such that the widest diameter of the visual field subtends an angular distance not greater than 20 degrees. "Conveyance." A truck, tractor, trailer or semitrailer, or any combination of these, propelled or drawn by mechanical power. "Deaf." Totally impaired hearing or hearing with or without amplification which is so seriously impaired that the primary means of receiving spoken language is through other sensory input, including, but not limited to, lip reading, sign language, finger spelling or reading. "Domestic animal." Any dog, cat, equine animal, bovine animal, sheep, goat or porcine animal. "Domestic fowl." Any avis raised for food, hobby or sport. "Equine animal." Any member of the Equidae family, which includes horses, asses, mules, ponies and zebras. "Normal agricultural operation." Normal activities, practices and procedures that farmers adopt, use or engage in year after year in the production and preparation for market of poultry, livestock and their products in the production and harvesting of agricultural, agronomic, horticultural, silvicultural and aquicultural crops and commodities. "Physically limited." Having limited ambulation, including, but not limited to, a temporary or permanent impairment or condition that causes an individual to use a wheelchair or walk with difficulty or insecurity, affects sight or hearing to the extent that an individual is insecure or exposed to danger, causes faulty coordination or reduces mobility, flexibility, coordination or perceptiveness. "Zoo animal." Any member of the class of mammalia, aves, amphibia or reptilia which is kept in a confined area by a public body or private individual for purposes of observation by the general public. From: Greg Care Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:32 PM To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' Cc: 'marsha.drenth at gmail.com' Subject: Pennsylvania guide dog law Someone recently asked about any Pennsylvania laws regarding guide dogs. Pennsylvania has split up its "White Cane Law" into different parts of the statutory code, so the part dealing with access to places of public accommodation while accompanied by a service animal is pasted below. Please note that this is a criminal law, enforced by the local prosecutor. Because I am not licensed to practice in Pennsylvania, I'm afraid that I can't be of greater assistance on this. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 7325. Discrimination on account of guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal. A person is guilty of a summary offense if he, being the proprietor, manager or employee of a theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public accommodation, entertainment or amusement, refuses, withholds or denies any person, who is using a guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal that has been certified by a recognized authority to assist a person, because of the physical disability, blindness or deafness of the user, or who is training a guide, signal or support dog or other aid animal for or from a recognized authority for such a user, the use of or access to any accommodation, advantage, facility or privilege of such theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public entertainment or amusement. Gregory P. Care Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. 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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 24 17:52:03 2011 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:52:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <004701cc9275$a38abff0$eaa03fd0$@sbcglobal.net> Ms. Wilkins: Any time between 8AM and 9PM is fine. If you are available at this time, I am as well. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:29 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 21:09:32 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:09:32 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> References: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Message-ID: I have done a quite bit of research in this topic. I am a part of the PA affiliate and am researching this on behalf of Jim and the affiliate. I am trying to see that I have not missed any thing in my research, I want to have all the facts. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim Atinachi can help as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12 .wi.us _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6569 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From cannona at fireantproductions.com Mon Oct 24 22:08:45 2011 From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:08:45 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Message-ID: You might try checking the state law section of the NAGDU site. http://www.nagdu.org Don't trust the summary. It may be accurate, but it may also be very out of date. However, they usually have a link to the actual law. NAGDU is the National Association of Guide Dog Users, a division of the NFB. Thanks. Aaron On 10/24/11, Marsha Drenth wrote: > I have done a quite bit of research in this topic. I am a part of the PA > affiliate and am researching this on behalf of Jim and the affiliate. I am > trying to see that I have not missed any thing in my research, I want to > have all the facts. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:01 AM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law > > Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This > would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim > Atinachi can help as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Marsha Drenth > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law > > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12 > .wi.us > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. > com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6569 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6571 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6571 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com > From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Mon Oct 24 22:12:45 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:12:45 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Government Purchasing of ProLaw Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6087F5EDE@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Please respond only if you know the answer to the following question. Our office is in the midst of perhaps purchasing ProLaw, but is holding off due to the accessibility problems. We have received third hand information that the federal government is no longer allowing purchase of ProLaw due to its accessibility problems. Does anyone know if this is true, and if yes, what federal entity made that decision? Sincerely, Tim Ford From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Oct 24 23:20:01 2011 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:20:01 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Message-ID: Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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LaBarre Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:20 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 00:12:25 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:12:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, I got the information I needed. Marsha -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dale Sczweck Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:31 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Marsha, Guiding eyes gave us a book of statutes for each state. The book contains all the laws for all of the 50 states. I can transcribe the Pennsylvania statutes and send those to you if you would like. I worked as a paralegal in Pennsylvania. There is a listing of statutes online. The book guiding eyes gave us is a good place to start. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:21 PM, "Marsha Drenth" wrote: > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6569 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Oct 25 12:33:20 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:33:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart References: Message-ID: Excellent news Scott. And excellent work! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. 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LaBarre Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:20 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. 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Smith ; James Antonacci ; Jeannie Massay ; Jennifer Dunnam ; Joe Ruffalo ; John Batron ; John Fritz ; Joy Harris ; Joyce Scanlan ; Ken Rollman ; Kim Williams ; Kimberly Flores ; Larry Posont ; Lynn Majewski ; Mary Willows ; Melissa Riccobono ; Michael Barber ; Michael Freeman ; Mika Pyyhkala ; Nani Fife ; Pam Allen ; Parnell Diggs ; Patti Chang ; Patty Estes ; Rena Smith ; Ron Brown ; Gardner, Ron ; Sam Gleese ; Scott LaBarre ; Shawn Callaway ; Terry Sheeler Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org Anna Levine Disability Rights Advocates (510) 665-8644 Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers Berkeley, California (October 26, 2011): On Monday, October 24, the Honorable Judge Charles R. Breyer ended a two-year legal battle between a blind law school graduate and a national testing corporation over the graduate's right to use a computer equipped with assistive technology to take the California Bar Exam. Granting Stephanie Enyart's motion for summary judgment, Judge Breyer found that Ms. Enyart is entitled to take the bar exam on a computer equipped with text-to-speech screen reading and visual screen magnification software, as the method that will best ensure that she is tested on her aptitude rather than her disability. Stephanie Enyart, who graduated from UCLA School of Law in 2009 and first sought to take the bar exam that same year, was forced into court by the refusal of the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) to allow her to take the bar exam using her primary reading method, a computer equipped with screen reading and screen magnifying software. Ms. Enyart, who became blind in her early adulthood as a result of macular degeneration, has relied on screen reading and screen magnifying technology to read since college, through law school, and in her professional career. Although Ms. Enyart won a preliminary injunction in early 2010, ordering NCBE to provide her requested accommodations, the case has remained in court for almost two years, as NCBE unsuccessfully challenged the district court's preliminary injunction order first to the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and then to the United States Supreme Court. NCBE argued that it fulfilled its legal obligations to Ms. Enyart by offering accommodations such as Braille or a human reader-notwithstanding evidence that these alternatives do not work well for Ms. Enyart. The courts resoundingly rejected that argument, holding that licensing examinations must be administered to exam takers with sensory impairments in a manner that "best ensures" that they are tested on what the examination purports to measure, rather than on the exam takers' impairments. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Although blind people have practiced law successfully throughout history, we still face unreasonable and unwarranted barriers to entering and achieving success in the profession. Judge Breyer's decision is a tremendous step forward in granting blind Americans seeking to enter the practice of law full and equal access to the process of acquiring their credentials. We applaud this common-sense ruling and expect full compliance going forward from the National Conference of Bar Examiners." Anna Levine of Disability Rights Advocates, an attorney representing the plaintiff, said, "Judge Breyer's decision vindicates Stephanie Enyart's request to take the bar exam on a computer, so that she can be tested on what other examinees are tested on, rather than on how well she uses an unfamiliar reading method. We only wish that NCBE had not fought this simple, justified request so aggressively over the past two years." The suit was filed on November 3, 2009, and charged that the NCBE violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and California's Unruh Civil Rights Act by denying accommodations on the Multistate Bar Examination and the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination, two components of the California Bar Exam controlled by NCBE. The State Bar granted Ms. Enyart's request to use a computer on the essay portions of the bar exam, but was unable to grant her request on the portions controlled by NCBE. Ms. Enyart was represented with the support of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) by Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, Maryland, and the LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., in Denver, Colorado. The plaintiff was further represented by Disability Rights Advocates (DRA), a national nonprofit law center that specializes in civil rights cases on behalf of persons with disabilities, with offices in Berkeley, California, and New York City. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 19:04:43 2011 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] we can't see the street lights but ... Message-ID: <1319655883.63598.YahooMailClassic@web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I found the article at the link below. I sent it to a co-worker of mine who was in the Army for twenty years. She confirmed that when she was stationed in Germany, she saw the stuff mentioned in it. http://www.infowars.com/new-street-lights-to-have-homeland-security-applications/ From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Oct 31 17:05:00 2011 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:05:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Outreach for ACLU Career Opportunity - Counsel for Disability Rights Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:34 AM Subject: Outreach for ACLU Career Opportunity - Counsel for Disability Rights Dear Colleague- The American Civil Liberties Union's (ACLU) is reaching out to the disability community for assistance in filling an opening in its Center for Equality. The position is a Counsel for Disability Rights. Attached is the posting for your convenience. Please forward this career opportunity to your contacts, professionals with disabilities, associations, etc. ------------------------- Akinyemi Banjo/FDWC Policy Advisor U.S. Department of Labor Office of Disability Employment Policy 200 Constitution Ave., NW; S-1011 Washington, DC 20210 Phone: 202-693-7919 Web: http://www.dol.gov/odep/ "The bend in the road is not the end of the road unless you refuse to take the turn." Anon. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CE-02 Equality Center Counsel - Disability Rights-Rhb.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 51669 bytes Desc: CE-02 Equality Center Counsel - Disability Rights-Rhb.pdf URL: From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:20:41 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps Message-ID: hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:20:06 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps Message-ID: hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 31 21:25:09 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:25:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft office, but that is all I know about it. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:37:06 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> References: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: thanks daniel, How is the battery life on your machine do you mind my asking. I have heard you can get up to 7 or 8 hours from a mac. That's a big attraction. Ger On 10/31/11, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, > powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft > office, but that is all I know about it. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI  48307 > Phone:  (248) 841-9405 > Fax:  (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice > of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing > spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs > and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which > are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:28:32 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:28:32 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop Message-ID: hi does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the lcd screen of a laptop are there any brands of laptop that allow this to be done? Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:32:39 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:32:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> References: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Hello, The Microsoft office suite on Mac is not accessible at this point. However, you can download open office for free. That is fully accessible and gives access to text documents, spreadsheets, and database. If you have any questions feel free to contact me. I am an assistive technology trainer from Dekalb Illinois and I would be willing to help over the phone or Skype if you would like. Dale Sczweck Assistive Technology specialist for the blind and visually impaired Phone: 815-314-0874 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, > powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft > office, but that is all I know about it. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice > of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing > spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs > and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which > are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 31 22:36:20 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:36:20 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard commands. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c om From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:43:54 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:43:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: dale, Thanks very much. Would open office give me full access to ms office documents? These are very common and even if I stopped using these formats myself I would need to be able to access them when others send them. Any further recommendations welcome. Ger On 10/31/11, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. wrote: > The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are > comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP > makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a > laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard > commands. > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the > practice of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for > accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing > ms office docs and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, > which are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:48:15 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:48:15 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It will give you access to ms word .doc mad .docx. Dale Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > dale, > Thanks very much. > Would open office give me full access to ms office documents? These > are very common and even if I stopped using these formats myself I > would need to be able to access them when others send them. > Any further recommendations welcome. > Ger > > On 10/31/11, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. wrote: >> The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are >> comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP >> makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a >> laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard >> commands. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> >> Russell J. Thomas, Jr. >> >> Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. >> >> 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 >> >> Newport Beach, California 92660 >> >> T: (949) 752-0101 >> >> F: (949) 257-4756 >> >> M: (949) 466-7238 >> >> www.emplmntattorney.com >> >> Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM >> To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps >> >> hi all >> I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the >> practice of law. >> In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for >> accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing >> ms office docs and pdfs. >> >> I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? >> I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, >> which are I phone apps. >> Ger >> >> -- >> Best wishes >> >> Gerard Sadlier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 31 23:10:58 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:10:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop References: Message-ID: Hi Gerard - Do you want to be able to keep reading your notes from the laptop while it is blank, or do you simply want on screen on at all at any time? I take it this has to do with hearings and sighted "snoopers". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard Sadlier" To: "blindlaw" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop > hi does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the lcd screen of a > laptop are there any brands of laptop that allow this to be done? > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3987 - Release Date: 10/31/11 > From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 13:48:40 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:48:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability Message-ID: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, when it goes up to $75 If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities At: http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:09:39 2011 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:09:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Message-ID: Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 14:16:59 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:16:59 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> A few things come to mind: Get a Scansnap scanner so that you can have lengthy documents scanned for reading: Get a PDF conversion program such as PDF converter, so that you can take the scanned PDF documents and convert them to Word; Subscribe to as many law firm blogs and follow other law firms on Twitter to help you keep up with current developments in the law. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From jduncanhines at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:29:40 2011 From: jduncanhines at gmail.com (joe hines) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:29:40 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> Message-ID: <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> I use zoom tech and scan them and let the computer read them to me -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:17 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice A few things come to mind: Get a Scansnap scanner so that you can have lengthy documents scanned for reading: Get a PDF conversion program such as PDF converter, so that you can take the scanned PDF documents and convert them to Word; Subscribe to as many law firm blogs and follow other law firms on Twitter to help you keep up with current developments in the law. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 3 14:30:09 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:30:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Paul - I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 3 14:22:10 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:22:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C05B9C5BFDE45F89456E0A6FDCB9EDE@DHRL6TC1> You absolutely must have access to online research, such as westlaw, lexis, or one of the other low cost alternatives. The main obstacle is to learn to practice law, which is difficult for any young attorney. Jaws and a laptop can do most of what you need. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 14:43:19 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:43:19 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: hi randy, I wonder if you'd mind sharing your experiences by email on or off post. I realize a conversation would be much much better but as I am based in ireland, that probably isn't an option, unless you skype? I should say that I'm blind and just about to start with a large firm here. The systems are different but similar enough to make what you might have to say really interesting. All the best, GER On 10/3/11, Farber, Randy wrote: > Paul - > > I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I > started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. > Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I > graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate > economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last > few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying > for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited > me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited > experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual > limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large > quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share > with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm > or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology > should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times > in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the > practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Mon Oct 3 14:50:47 2011 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:50:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul: I am right here in Philly. Give me a call at the number listed below so we can talk. Look forward to hearing from you. Rod Alcidonis Principal Attorney Alcidonis Law Office, LLC 6622 Castor Avenue 1st Floor Philadelphia, PA 19149 Tel: (215) 305-8085 Fax: (215) 525-0999 Work: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and/or its attachment(s) is being sent by an attorney and may contain privileged and confidential information and may be protected by attorney client and work product privileges. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized and/or permitted to retain, disseminate, read, or copy this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Alcidonis Law Office at (215) 305-8085 or at Lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com, and permanently delete this message from your system. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Sullivan" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 3 14:57:38 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:57:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCAA@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20281FCCCF3@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> GER - Contach me off-list at Rfarber at JW.com and we can correspond off list. Do you have any particular concerns or questions. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:43 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice hi randy, I wonder if you'd mind sharing your experiences by email on or off post. I realize a conversation would be much much better but as I am based in ireland, that probably isn't an option, unless you skype? I should say that I'm blind and just about to start with a large firm here. The systems are different but similar enough to make what you might have to say really interesting. All the best, GER On 10/3/11, Farber, Randy wrote: > Paul - > > I work in a large law firm and started having visual problems after I > started practicing law. However, I can let you know how I practice law. > Please call me to discuss at 713-752-4241. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 15:07:22 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:07:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys (and judges) here get the information! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, when it goes up to $75 If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities At: http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 15:14:18 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:14:18 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: would it be possible to obtain the papers delivered? Maybe an email to the organizers would be productive. Ger On 10/3/11, Susan Kelly wrote: > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 15:17:06 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:17:06 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Paul - I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or signatures. The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on that. In the mean time - best of luck! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 15:28:40 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:28:40 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read documents "on the fly." Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Paul - I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or signatures. The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on that. In the mean time - best of luck! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From agtolentino at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 15:54:49 2011 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:54:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Message-ID: Hi Russell, Which ScanSnap model do you recommend? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28, "Russell J. Thomas, Jr." wrote: > Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read > documents "on the fly." > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Paul - > > I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term > experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable > to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division > here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and > transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This > is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, > where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it > now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or > signatures. > > The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I > used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors > who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously > can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has > not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program > is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through > an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an > office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which > is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is > huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on > that. > > In the mean time - best of luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 16:07:10 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:07:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <181E6FAC44D248FD8399CC5FA2B4BA65@mycomputer> Hi Susan: I will look into it. Ross A. Doerr Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 3 16:11:18 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:11:18 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27D@EVS02.central.pima.gov><414AE3D037FE4539ACF0D2C1B0A77032@RThomas> Message-ID: <95BEDB9525094078A57725E8862A89FC@RThomas> There may be more, but I am aware of two. The larger model, for use in the office I believe is the 1500. That runs about $450.00. according to recent articles I have read, this scanner is the most popular among law firms, especially smaller firms. There is another model, (can't remember the number) the runs around $200.00 which is small enough to take with you to Court, or for other occasions when you are away from your office and need a scanner. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:55 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Hi Russell, Which ScanSnap model do you recommend? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28, "Russell J. Thomas, Jr." wrote: > Get the portable version of the Scansnap so that you can scan and read > documents "on the fly." > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:17 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Paul - > > I can't say I have small firm experience (public defender), or long-term > experience being visually impaired (vision was more or less correctable > to at least driving ability until about 3 years ago), but my division > here at the PD's has been great about scanning disclosure and > transcripts to the network for me, using Adobe and an OCR program. This > is much more feasible for reading multiple pages of print than the CCTV, > where I would frequently lose my place, etc. I pretty much only use it > now for forms and other documents that require filling out by hand, or > signatures. > > The other problems that I have run into are being much slower than I > used to be when I could still read directly, and annoying prosecutors > who will hand me disclosure and other paperwork in court. I obviously > can't read them in that form, and the portable video magnifier just has > not been sufficiently efficient for that. The State Voc. Rehab. program > is proposing getting me a KNFB reader, which would read it to me through > an earpiece - we will see if that handles it. The other problem is an > office one, as we are going to case management system (Just Ware) which > is only marginally accessible - JAWS reads it fairly well, but there is > huge conflict in the keystrokes for both programs. We shall see on > that. > > In the mean time - best of luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro > area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to > the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal > field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working > musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's > invited me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with > limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if > any, visual limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a > large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to > share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially > in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if > any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the > times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate > to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c om From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 18:18:58 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:18:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> Hello Susan: I have heard back from the Louisiana Bar Assoc. regarding the possible taping of that "LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities" CLE. At this time, they have no plans to record it, but will get in touch with me if they decide to do so. They chose not to respond to my question abot the materials for said CLE being made available. Is there anyone on this list admitted to the LA bar? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 3 18:25:05 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:25:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability In-Reply-To: <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> References: <29270FCC00054E138E57640281833494@mycomputer> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F27C@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <52B74A185572401FAAA51BEF71877CB1@mycomputer> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F28D@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Thanks for checking - hopefully someone will be close enough to be able to attend and let us know about what happens. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:19 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability Hello Susan: I have heard back from the Louisiana Bar Assoc. regarding the possible taping of that "LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with disabilities" CLE. At this time, they have no plans to record it, but will get in touch with me if they decide to do so. They chose not to respond to my question abot the materials for said CLE being made available. Is there anyone on this list admitted to the LA bar? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > Do you know if it will be recorded? I'd love to have some attorneys > (and judges) here get the information! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:49 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Louisiana Diversity CLE on Lawyers with a disability > > If anyone is interested in attending this one, I have gone to the web > site and its cost is $50, unless you wait to register after October 7, > when it goes up to $75 > > If it weren't for the cost of air fare, I'd go to this one. > > > > LA State Bar to hold summit on unraveling the myths of attorneys with > disabilities > > At: > > http://www.lsba.org/2007cle/cledocuments/291(5).pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima > .gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunn er.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 21:28:13 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:28:13 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Paul, I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. Marsha Drenth Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6513 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 3 22:02:47 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:02:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Two U.S. Atty postings Message-ID: <5019B5EEF411436B97276997FBAB7F86@mycomputer> a.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Northern District of Georgia 12-GAN-AUSA-01 Applications must be received by 5:30 p.m. EST, Friday, October 7, 2011. b.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Districts of Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands Term Appointment - May be Converted to Permanent or Extended. The position is open for five business days after posting. From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 15:38:01 2011 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:38:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Message-ID: Hello all, Thanks very much for all your replies. Your collective thoughts were enlightening, and I'll be sure to ask more questions as things progress. All the best, Paul R. Sullivan, Jr. On 10/3/11, Marsha Drenth wrote: > Paul, > > I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro > area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city > Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could > help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other > Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. > > Marsha Drenth > Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice > > Greetings, > > I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I > graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate > economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last > few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying > for what few jobs are out there. > Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited > me to work with him. > > While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited > experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual > limitations I might encounter. > > Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large > quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. > > I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share > with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm > or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology > should I be looking at and considering investing in? > Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times > in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the > practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > Paul Sullivan > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. > com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6513 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6514 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6514 (20111003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Oct 5 12:26:33 2011 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:26:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice In-Reply-To: <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> References: <49A5AFA2EB274ECFB9F0AF24D393A4EB@RThomas> <000001cc81d8$e46a1be0$ad3e53a0$@gmail.com> <14B4B9DDA6244D9B9553D06E061D5D3A@Cptr233> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045D9B992D99@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Good luck to you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:28 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Paul, I myself am not a lawyer, but I do live in the greater Philadelphia metro area. There is another lawyer in my NFB chapter that meets in center city Philly. All of the folks in my chapter are of the working sort, and could help with your technology issues. If you are interested in meeting other Philadelphia residents who are blind, please email me off list. Marsha Drenth Marsha.drenth @ gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:10 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Entering solo practice Greetings, I am a visually impaired attorney living in the Philadelphia metro area. I graduated law school and passed the bar in 2008, but due to the unfortunate economy, I've been unable to find a job in the legal field. For the last few years I've made a living as a working musician, all the while applying for what few jobs are out there. Recently, a good friend decided to open his own practice, and he's invited me to work with him. While the practice of law is intimidating enough for someone with limited experience post law school, I'm most concerned about what, if any, visual limitations I might encounter. Right now, I use Jaws and can use a CCTV. However, using a CCTV for a large quantity of paperwork isn't very feasible for me. I'm very curious if the attorneys on this list would be willing to share with me what types of problems they've encountered, especially in small firm or solo practice, where resources are limited. What, if any, technology should I be looking at and considering investing in? Having worked as a musician for several years, I feel a bit behind the times in terms of technology. Any thoughts, especially as they relate to the practice of law would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul Sullivan _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jduncanhines%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6513 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6514 (20111003) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 5 16:30:09 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:30:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting - California - uncompensated Message-ID: <9C8F7F89B81A44E3BE61782195E29C67@mycomputer> United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California October 5, 2011 12-EDCA-01A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, October 21, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us Thu Oct 6 14:25:10 2011 From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED)) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:25:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Jobs: Openings at MN Department of Human Services - Legal Services St. Paul Message-ID: <2CBA05A7F34B34439FA5DDAC7DF99E4A01E73D@055-CH1MPN1-003.055d.mgd.msft.net> fyi _____________________________________________ From: Crozier, Ouida G (DHS) Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:37 PM Subject: Openings at MN Department of Human Services Here are two high-level openings at the MN Department of Human Services for members of the legal profession. Share as appropriate. Ouida =========================================================================== Job Classification: STATE PROG ADMIN MGR PRINC Job Class Option: Legal Services Working Title: OIG Chief General Counsel Salary Range: $ 33.65-$ 48.25 hourly, $ 70,261-$ 100,746 annually Location: St. Paul Hiring Agency: Human Services Dept Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers Employment Conditions: Permanent, Full-time Posting Number: 11DHS001264 Closing Date: 10/31/2011 Go to https://statejobs.doer.state.mn.us/JobPosting/View?_posting=11DHS001264 to see the full listing about this job. =========================================================================== Job Classification: STATE PROG ADMIN MGR PRINC Job Class Option: Legal Services Working Title: DHS Chief General Counsel Salary Range: $ 33.65-$ 48.25 hourly, $ 70,261-$ 100,746 annually Location: St. Paul Hiring Agency: Human Services Dept Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers Employment Conditions: Permanent, Full-time Posting Number: 11DHS001263 Closing Date: 10/31/2011 Go to https://statejobs.doer.state.mn.us/JobPosting/View?_posting=11DHS001263 to see the full listing about this job. =========================================================================== From michael.steven.n at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 17:20:39 2011 From: michael.steven.n at gmail.com (Michael S. Nunez) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:20:39 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] California Style Guide Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I write to ask the community how they access the California Style manual. My understanding is that unlike the Bluebook, no web-based version of the California Style Guide exists. I have an inaccessible PDF of the guide, and running it through Kurzweil will probably generate errors and strip some of the formatting nuances from the document. Hence, I seek other solutions. Has anyone successfully obtained an accessible version in word? Thanks, Mike From rumpole at roadrunner.com Thu Oct 6 20:39:59 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:39:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bur. of Prisons - Texas Message-ID: <160A46767D7141648975BC476CB74A85@mycomputer> a.. United States Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons Federal Correctional Complex Consolidated Legal Center Beaumont, Texas Attorney-Advisor GS-905-12/13 The position will remain open until filled, but applications must be submitted no later than October 19, 2011. From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Fri Oct 7 16:01:53 2011 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:01:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 7 16:09:48 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:09:48 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student In-Reply-To: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> References: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Very nice! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:02 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Oct 7 16:57:20 2011 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:57:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E1B5066@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2CA@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045D9B9937DE@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Great job. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:10 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Very nice! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:02 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Media coverage of blind law student Not to blow my own horn, but I thought you as my friends and fellow blind professionals would like to see this. http://www.ksat.com/news/29408150/detail.html?taf=ant Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 11 09:10:29 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:10:29 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs In-Reply-To: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> References: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> Message-ID: <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> as usual I'm behind in emails but these would be the strongest arguments against the sign. It is important to note that under the ADA a person cannot be forced to identify with a disability or accept services and a disability is confidential even if it is an obvious one to the public. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs > You might be able to argue that by placing the sign, the Village is > providing a reasonable accommodation (a weak argument though) and that you > have > the right to refuse a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. You might > also be able to argue that by erecting such a sign, the Village is > violating > your right to confidentiality under the ADA (also a weak argument). > > I suggest you contact Shawn Mayo, Executive Director at BLIND, Inc. I > believe that the City of Minneapolis recently put up signs similar to > yours > near the training center, but Shawn, her staff, and the affilliate > successfully advocated to get them removed. Shawn's email address is > _smayo at blindinc.org_ (mailto:smayo at blindinc.org) . > > Good luck, > Ronza > > > In a message dated 9/11/2011 7:53:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > billreif at ameritech.net writes: > > I don't know in what manner the sign can be said to discriminate. I'm > sure that whoever put it up has the mistaken belief that drivers in the > area may be more cautious about hitting you. > > There is nevertheless much objectionable about such a sign. It > signifies that you are owed some special degree of care, and can't look > out for yourself. Of more concern is the message such a sign would send > criminals of various sorts. Were I a criminal, I would relish the > opportunity to wait for someone who can't visually identify me. I could > thus sneak in behind them to do whatever I cared to with them or their > property; and they would have no way of picking me out of a lineup or > even providing a description in the absence of other witnesses. Please > demand that the City remove its inadvertent way of making you a target. > > cordially, > Bill > > > On 9/11/2011 5:02 PM, Leslie Fairall wrote: >> Hello: >> >> I have moved to the state of Rhode Island to take another position. >> I'm renting a single family residence and have lived here for a month. >> >> To my horror, the town of Cranston has erected a sign that says "blind >> person" directly across the street from my home. I would not have >> known this if a friend of mine who picks me up for church hadn't told >> me. It is a bright yellow sign with black lettering. >> >> I will be contacting City Hall both by phone and in writing to have >> the sign removed. I have a few questions. >> >> >> 1. Would this be considered discrimination under the Americans with >> Disabilities or some other act? >> 2. Is singling out a person because of disability a form of >> discrimination? My knee-jerk reaction is yes, but I want to get the >> facts straight. >> 3. What is a reasonable timeframe to request that the sign be removed? >> In my rough draft, I stated seven days. >> >> 4. Are their any other points I should make that would strongly >> encourage them to remove the sign? >> >> Thanks for any and all advice. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/billreif%40ameritech.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 21:15:10 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:15:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs In-Reply-To: <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> References: <88ac.23400acf.3b9eaade@aol.com> <27F5F45BDA944EA1A059B9B6AF677111@spike> Message-ID: I'd probably take the sign down at 1 am and hang it in my living room lol. Just a fun idea. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2011, at 4:10 AM, wrote: > as usual I'm behind in emails but these would be the strongest arguments against the sign. It is important to note that under the ADA a person cannot be forced to identify with a disability or accept services and a disability is confidential even if it is an obvious one to the public. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:22 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Discriminating Signs > > >> You might be able to argue that by placing the sign, the Village is >> providing a reasonable accommodation (a weak argument though) and that you have >> the right to refuse a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. You might >> also be able to argue that by erecting such a sign, the Village is violating >> your right to confidentiality under the ADA (also a weak argument). >> >> I suggest you contact Shawn Mayo, Executive Director at BLIND, Inc. I >> believe that the City of Minneapolis recently put up signs similar to yours >> near the training center, but Shawn, her staff, and the affilliate >> successfully advocated to get them removed. Shawn's email address is >> _smayo at blindinc.org_ (mailto:smayo at blindinc.org) . >> >> Good luck, >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 9/11/2011 7:53:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> billreif at ameritech.net writes: >> >> I don't know in what manner the sign can be said to discriminate. I'm >> sure that whoever put it up has the mistaken belief that drivers in the >> area may be more cautious about hitting you. >> >> There is nevertheless much objectionable about such a sign. It >> signifies that you are owed some special degree of care, and can't look >> out for yourself. Of more concern is the message such a sign would send >> criminals of various sorts. Were I a criminal, I would relish the >> opportunity to wait for someone who can't visually identify me. I could >> thus sneak in behind them to do whatever I cared to with them or their >> property; and they would have no way of picking me out of a lineup or >> even providing a description in the absence of other witnesses. Please >> demand that the City remove its inadvertent way of making you a target. >> >> cordially, >> Bill >> >> >> On 9/11/2011 5:02 PM, Leslie Fairall wrote: >>> Hello: >>> >>> I have moved to the state of Rhode Island to take another position. >>> I'm renting a single family residence and have lived here for a month. >>> >>> To my horror, the town of Cranston has erected a sign that says "blind >>> person" directly across the street from my home. I would not have >>> known this if a friend of mine who picks me up for church hadn't told >>> me. It is a bright yellow sign with black lettering. >>> >>> I will be contacting City Hall both by phone and in writing to have >>> the sign removed. I have a few questions. >>> >>> >>> 1. Would this be considered discrimination under the Americans with >>> Disabilities or some other act? >>> 2. Is singling out a person because of disability a form of >>> discrimination? My knee-jerk reaction is yes, but I want to get the >>> facts straight. >>> 3. What is a reasonable timeframe to request that the sign be removed? >>> In my rough draft, I stated seven days. >>> >>> 4. Are their any other points I should make that would strongly >>> encourage them to remove the sign? >>> >>> Thanks for any and all advice. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/billreif%40ameritech.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 12 18:37:02 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:37:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Two U.S. federzl Atty postings Message-ID: a.. Detail Opportunity for an Experienced DOJ Trial Attorney, Senior Trial Attorney, or Assistant U.S. Attorney Office of the Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator Washington, D.C. Closing Date: October 24, 2011. a.. U.S. Department of Justice U.S. Trustee Program -- Corpus Christi, Texas (1) Assistant United States Trusted Vacancy Announcement # Corpus AUST 11-03 Applications must be postmarked no later than October 19, 2011. From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Wed Oct 12 20:42:55 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:42:55 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Oct 12 20:48:19 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:48:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 12 23:22:25 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:22:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting Texas Message-ID: <5D813EFE4B8747F2A4C66661E203A0BB@mycomputer> a.. Special Assistant U.S. Attorney U.S. Attorney's Office Eastern District of Texas Plano, Texas Vacancy Announcement No.: 11-EDTX-04 (SAUSA) Closing Date: October 26, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 17:09:58 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:09:58 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Thu Oct 13 18:42:09 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:42:09 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 19:00:45 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:00:45 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F301@EVS02.central.pima.gov> We're finding that with JustWare as well - apparently no one thinks attorneys can have any vision issues. Very disturbing, indeed - good luck, in any event! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:42 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Oct 13 19:06:49 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:06:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Oct 13 19:32:55 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:32:55 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 20:35:01 2011 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:35:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR Message-ID: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Thu Oct 13 20:41:22 2011 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:41:22 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR In-Reply-To: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> References: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: Did the document have the name of an legal clinic? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 15:37, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ > <20111013160719202.doc> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 20:46:28 2011 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:46:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] OCR References: <341D13A145B74274907FC603512C1D54@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: <3F819E1B46324AD0AC333C42318A1C89@hometwxakonvzn> No. Here it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dittman, Robert" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] OCR > Did the document have the name of an legal clinic? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 15:37, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: > >> I was sent a ocument, and I'm not shure if this is an OCR or not. RJ >> <20111013160719202.doc> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20111013160719202.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 66098 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Oct 13 23:36:53 2011 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:36:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: I believe that ProLaw and JustWear are case management software. If that is correct, the accessibility of legal case management software has been an issue over many years raised on this list. We, as a group, need to figure out how to get this problem resolved. Susan: Do you work for a federal agency? If so, you have Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act to rely on in demanding that the government purchase accessible software. If you work for a state agency, perhaps that state has an executive order or baby Section 508 statute you could use. However, is there any accessible case management software? If there is such a thing, I am not aware of it. Noel Nightingale -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:33 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 14 15:01:22 2011 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:01:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FECD3@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2EF@EVS02.central.pima.gov><1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F2FB@EVS02.central.pima.gov> <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6084FED96@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> <8453C9E24B6D4AA6979801666C549A39@DHRL6TC1> <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F303@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F705F3F30A@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Yes, they are both case management systems. In our office, JustWare is being introduced to replace our case tracking system, which was written in-house many years ago and actually does relatively well (with only a few problems) with JAWS. The main purpose, however, seems to be so that the administration can keep constant tabs on what we are doing every second of the work-day - even more concerning for those of us who need a bit more time to get through the "simple" tasks made not simple by the inaccessibility problem. Unfortunately, the office is not a federal agency - it's a county agency in Arizona. And Arizona is not showing the best track record on any form of civil rights lately, including physical access issues for a quadriplegic co-worker. But we'll keep pestering them, trust me! And maybe we should all attempt to get an accessible file management package created - who knows, could be worthwhile beyond just those of us who can't see the computer in the standard way. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:37 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS I believe that ProLaw and JustWear are case management software. If that is correct, the accessibility of legal case management software has been an issue over many years raised on this list. We, as a group, need to figure out how to get this problem resolved. Susan: Do you work for a federal agency? If so, you have Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act to rely on in demanding that the government purchase accessible software. If you work for a state agency, perhaps that state has an executive order or baby Section 508 statute you could use. However, is there any accessible case management software? If there is such a thing, I am not aware of it. Noel Nightingale -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:33 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on purchasing virtually inaccessible management software? Even though my direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be accessible, we were ignored. I then searched out training on my own, almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at every turn. I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Thank you for the input. Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw have become more and more inaccessible. I just learned of a JAWS script writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw. He is now working on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more difficult to work with. ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in how they designed the program. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw. She said that her one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for JAWS. She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may have upgraded its accessibility by now. Hopefully that is the case. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS And same question with JAWS and JustWare? Many of the keyboard commands conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made..... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS Hi there, Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw? Sincerely, Tim Ford _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tim.ford%40cdph.ca .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergo uld. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 14 22:13:12 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:13:12 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Atty job postings, PA., NJ and SC Message-ID: <920B7ED0C110419299E0B76299D78068@mycomputer> a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Northeast Regional Office (Consolidated Legal Center) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania GS-905-12/13 This position is open until filled, but no later than October 28, 2011. a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Northeast Regional Office Consolidated Legal Center Fort Dix, New Jersey Senior CLC Attorney GS-905-14 This position is open until filled, but no later than October 28, 2011. a.. Attorney-Advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Southeast Regional Office Consolidated Legal Center Edgefield, South Carolina GS This position is open until filled, but no later than October 19, 2011. a.. Attorney-Advisor / GS-11 to GS-12 Foreign Claims Settlement Commission Applications should be submitted as early as possible but, in any event, not later than October 28, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 13:54:16 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:54:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin Message-ID: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and internet explorer? With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages that needs more work with respect to accessibility? Sincerely, Craig Spencer Esq. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 15 14:21:33 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:21:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Hello Craig: Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site that needs more accessibility work. Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? Ross A. Doerr Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 15 14:24:02 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:24:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0939F200F48F4ADEB05A357DE9C8DF5C@mycomputer> Also, has anyhone on the list had really good luck with your state bar association's Casemaker web site? That is another one that is pretty rugged to navigate with speech software. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > From womankind at earthlink.net Sat Oct 15 14:31:03 2011 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:31:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is touch.linkedin.com At 09:54 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: supposed to be their accessible page? Stephanie >touch.linkedin.com From womankind at earthlink.net Sat Oct 15 14:32:20 2011 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:32:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Message-ID: And for thos of us who use window eyes? At 10:21 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: >Hello Craig: >Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have >found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. >Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site >that needs more accessibility work. >Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn >with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? >Ross A. Doerr Esq. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM >Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >>Hello everyone, >>I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and >>internet explorer? >>With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >>I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >>Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages >>that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >>Sincerely, >>Craig Spencer Esq. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>for blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com >> >> >>----- >>No virus found in this message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3953 - Release Date: 10/15/11 > > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/womankind%40earthlink.net From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 14:48:43 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:48:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003d01cc8b49$896f2da0$9c4d88e0$@gmail.com> My understanding is that touch.linkedin.com is supposed to be their page for mobile devices. When I go on that page, I don't notice a difference with that "touch" page and the regular page. Unlike Facebook where there is a noticeable difference between facebook.com and m.facebook.com........ where m.facebook.com is more accessible I guess because it has less clotter. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Ortoleva Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:31 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin Is touch.linkedin.com At 09:54 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: supposed to be their accessible page? Stephanie >touch.linkedin.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai l.com From dandrews at visi.com Sun Oct 16 23:12:55 2011 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:12:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <199D76B7E3A44565AB36E785200922D3@mycomputer> Message-ID: At one time, Linked-In was very accessible. Lately it has gone downhill some, although I have been able to do what I want so far. I have never found a sign-off link on the page, just close it. Either it isn't visible to a screen reader, or there isn't one. Dave At 09:21 AM 10/15/2011, you wrote: >Hello Craig: >Regarding LinkedIn - I have been on it for about a year now and have >found that I experience the same problems that you outline in your email. >Yes, in my opinion, this is a professional social networking site >that needs more accessibility work. >Is there a true "techy" on the list who can give wisdom on LinkedIn >with JAWS 12 for those of us who are mere mortals? >Ross A. Doerr Esq. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:54 AM >Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >>Hello everyone, >>I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and >>internet explorer? >>With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >>I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >>Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages >>that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >>Sincerely, >>Craig Spencer Esq. From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 17 10:24:32 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:24:32 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with the page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 11:01:00 2011 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:01:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com> <39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> Message-ID: <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> There is supposedly a "settings" page where you can change your pass word and other account settings. However, jaws does not seem to find that link. Linkedin even has a help section that supposed to answer the question "can't find the settings and sign out link". There answer is that you must hover the mouse over your name on the top of the page and you will find the links. Jaws does not find it. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:25 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with the page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 and > internet explorer? > With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. > I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. > Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking pages > that needs more work with respect to accessibility? > > Sincerely, > Craig Spencer Esq. > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai l.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 17 11:48:00 2011 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:48:00 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin In-Reply-To: <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> References: <002a01cc8b41$ee37a120$caa6e360$@gmail.com><39A777462A124E879DF77CEFF9E84E35@spike> <000c01cc8cbc$0e77bc10$2b673430$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41FE148A92964C85BBA3D7592602B7A0@spike> I can get to those features by going to my "Account" and through my "profile. Chuck P.S. for those on LinkedIn feel free to connect at http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-krugman/b/357/722 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > There is supposedly a "settings" page where you can change your pass word > and other account settings. However, jaws does not seem to find that > link. > > > Linkedin even has a help section that supposed to answer the question > "can't > find the settings and sign out link". > There answer is that you must hover the mouse over your name on the top of > the page and you will find the links. > Jaws does not find it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:25 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > I use it all of the time without any difficulties. I'm not familiar with > the > page you are refgerring to as I have never tried to sign out. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Spencer" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:54 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility and Linkedin > > >> Hello everyone, >> I was wondering if persons have found linkedin accessible with Jaws 12 >> and >> internet explorer? >> With jaws I am unable to find the sign out and settings link. >> I even tried the touch.linkedin.com page with no better result. >> Is there any other solution, or is that one of the social networking >> pages >> that needs more work with respect to accessibility? >> >> Sincerely, >> Craig Spencer Esq. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 15:55:16 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:55:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Attorney posting Southern CA. Message-ID: a.. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of California 11-SDCA-02 Application materials must be postmarked by the deadline date of October 31, 2011. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 17:11:55 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:11:55 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Atty posting - WDC Message-ID: <50E5DF1AC779447FA5D6F69DCF3B0840@mycomputer> Attorney-Adviser Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel Washington Application Deadline is October 28, 2011. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 17 22:22:35 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:22:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Atty posting San Francisco-uncompensated Message-ID: a.. Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Northern District of California - San Francisco Vacancy Announcement No. 11-NDCA-08-E Applications must be received by Monday, October 31, 2011. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rumpole at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 21 20:24:08 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:24:08 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Fed. Bur. of Prisons attorney opening Message-ID: <2A64B33F9FD84C639391AD7349A25F35@mycomputer> a.. Federal Bureau of Prisons Office of General Counsel Industries, Education & Vocational Training Federal Prison Industries, Inc. Attorney-advisor GS-905-12/13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than November 4, 2011. From dandrews at visi.com Sat Oct 22 02:43:15 2011 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:43:15 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Lives Worth Living" Disability Rights Documentary Premieres on PBS Series Independent Lens; October 27 Message-ID: > >Rarely in the history of media has a documentary >captured the authentic voices of disability >leaders as they reframe the debate on the >disability rights movement in America. This >October 27 premiere of Lives Worth Living >coincides with National Disability Employment >Awareness Month, and gives “Independent Lens” a >whole new meaning as this film recalibrates the >focus that chronicles the Independent Living Movement. >This film is for everyone with – and without - >disabilities. We encourage students to watch >and discuss in school; employees to watch (with >their Employee Resource Groups); families to >experience it with friends. Blog about it, talk about it. >Let PBS know this is the kind of authentic programming that is important. >Lives Worth Living IS the film worth watching! > >Lead On..... > >Tari > >Tari Hartman Squire, CEO >EIN SOF Communications, Inc. >"We Mean Business" >11601 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 500 >Los Angeles, CA 90025 >310-650-0595 - mobile >310-473-5954 - office >Tari at EINSOFcommunications.com > > > > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT >Voleine Amilcar, ITVS 415-356-8383 x >244 >voleine_amilcar at itvs.org >Mary >Lugo >770-623-8190 >lugo at negia.net >Cara >White >843-881-1480 >cara.white at mac.com > >For downloadable images, visit >http://pressroom.pbs.org > >LIVES WORTH LIVING Premieres on the PBS Series INDEPENDENT LENS >Thursday, October 27 at 10 PM During >National Disability Employment Awareness Month > >Powerful Documentary Chronicles the History of >America’s Disability Rights Movement > >While there are over 54 million Americans living >with disabilities, Lives Worth Living is the >first television history of their decades-long >struggle for equal rights. Produced and directed >by Eric Neudel, Lives Worth Living is a window >into a world inhabited by people with an >unwavering determination to live their lives >like everyone else, and a look back into a past >when millions of Americans lived without access >to schools, employment, apartment buildings, and >public transportation – a way of life >unimaginable today. Lives Worth Living premieres >on the Emmy® Award-winning PBS series >Independent Lens, on Thursday, October 27, 2011 >at 10 PM (check local listings) to coincide with >National Disability Employment Awareness Month. > >Lives Worth Living traces the development of the >disability rights movement from its beginning >following World War II, when thousands of >disabled veterans returned home, through its >burgeoning in the 1960s and 1970s, when it began >to adopt the tactics of other social movements. >Told through interviews with the movement’s >pioneers, legislators, and others, Lives Worth >Living explores how Americans with a wide >variety of disabilities ­ including blind, deaf, >physical, intellectual and psychiatric ­ banded >together to change public perception and policy. >Through demonstrations and legislative battles, >the disability rights community finally secured >equal civil rights with the 1990 passage and >signing into law of the Americans with >Disabilities Act, one of the most transformative >pieces of civil rights legislation in American history. > > >[] > > > > > > >[] > > >[] > > >To learn more about the film, and the issues >involved, visit the film’s companion website at >www.pbs.org/independentlens/. >Get detailed information on the film, watch >preview clips, read an interview with the >filmmaker, and explore the subject in depth with >links and resources. The site also features a >Talkback section, where viewers can share their ideas and opinions. > > >About the Participants, in Order of Appearance >Fred Fay, early leader in the >disability >rights movement (1944 – 2011) >Ann Ford, director of the Illinois National Council on Independent Living >Judy Heumann, leading disability rights >activist, Co-Founder of World Institute on Disability >Judi Chamberlin, Mental Patients Liberation >Front, a movement for the rights and dignity of >people with mental illness (1944-2010) >Dr. William Bronston, former staff physician at >the notorious Willowbrook State School who was >dismissed after agitating for change >Bob Kafka, established ADAPT of Texas, a >disability rights advocacy organization >Zona Roberts, counselor, UC Berkeley's >Physically Disabled Students’ Program and Center >for Independent Living, Berkeley; mother of >disability rights pioneer Ed Roberts >Pat Wright, Former Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund >John Wodatch, Former Chief, Disability Rights >Section, Civil Rights Division, U. S. Department of Justice >Jack Duncan, Former Counsel, U.S. House of Representatives >Mary Jane Owen, disability rights activist, >philosopher, policy expert, and writer >Marca Bristo, CEO, Access Living of Metropolitan >Chicago, former chair of the National Council on >Disability, and leader in the disability rights movement >Michael Winter, Former director, Berkeley Center for Independent Living >Lex Frieden, Former director, National Council >on the Handicapped (now National Council on Disability) >Dr. I. King Jordan, President Emeritus, Gallaudet University >Jeff Rosen, alumni leader, Gallaudet University >Senator Tom Harkin, (D-Iowa), co-author of the ADA >Bobby Silverstein, Former Chief Counsel, Senate >Subcommittee on Disability Policy >Richard Thornburgh, U.S. Attorney General, 1988-1991 >Tony Coelho, Former Congressman (D-California), >House Majority Whip, 1986-1989, author of the ADA >Justin Dart, leader in the disability rights movement (1930 – 2002) > >About the Filmmaker >Eric Neudel (Producer/Director) has produced, >directed, and edited numerous award-winning >films for public television. His many credits >include Eyes on the Prize, AIDS: Chapter One, >LBJ Goes to War, Tet 1968, Steps, After the >Crash, The Philippines and The US: In Our Image, >Body and Soul, and more. He was a visiting >senior critic and lecturer in film at Yale >University and served as producer, director, and >editor for Harvard University’s Derek Bok Center >for Teaching and Learning, and Spectrum Media’s >program series on the art and craft of teaching. >Neudel was also a photographer and video >production consultant, teaching video production >to a team working for the Compass Project in >Malawi. Photographs from his two years in Malawi >were exhibited in the Sandra and Phillip Gordon >Gallery at The Boston Arts Academy in October 2007. > >He also served as story consultant for Row Hard >No Excuses, an award-winning documentary about >two middle aged American men who set out to >cross the Atlantic in a rowboat. Most recently >he served as a photographer in Rwanda for The >Boston Globe, where he directed, produced, and >edited a companion documentary about the >Maranyundo Middle School, which was built on the >site of one of the worst concentration camps and killing fields in Rwanda. > > >About Independent Lens >Independent Lens is an Emmy® Award-winning >weekly series airing Thursday nights at 10 PM on >PBS. The acclaimed anthology series features >documentaries and a limited number of fiction >films united by the creative freedom, artistic >achievement, and unflinching visions of their >independent producers. Independent Lens features >unforgettable stories about a unique individual, >community or moment in history. Presented by the >Independent Television Service (ITVS), the >series is supported by interactive companion >websites and national publicity and community >engagement campaigns. Further information about >the series is available at >www.pbs.org/independentlens. >Independent Lens is jointly curated by ITVS and >PBS; it is funded by the Corporation for Public >Broadcasting (CPB), a private corporation funded >by the American people, with additional funding >provided by PBS and the National Endowment for >the Arts. The series producer is Lois Vossen. > >### > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbd3.png Type: image/png Size: 23560 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbe2.png Type: image/png Size: 24612 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 79bfbf2.png Type: image/png Size: 24134 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lives Worth Living Release FINAL1.docx Type: application/msword Size: 432010 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 22 20:03:19 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:03:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Casemaker Message-ID: <5C3564D7D9AB482CB8FE0AADF9DA6ED0@mycomputer> Has anyone on the list tried to use the new casemaker elite software available through their bar association for any research? It uses a google like search box and gets you results fairly quickly - but I can't gt any of them to open in the case maker elite screen - the search results aren't being recognized by JAWS. I'm using JAWS 12 on XP pro. I stopped using the regular CaseMaker because the screen was so darn difficult to navigate. I attended a seminar recently about using the new casemaker elite software, and find it great up to the point when I'd like to read my results without emailing or downloading them to myself. The download and email function sure seems as if it could be a bit easier to use as well. Anyone out there been using it? From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 02:21:29 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:21:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 13:01:04 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:01:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim Atinachi can help as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 13:31:22 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:31:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marsha, Guiding eyes gave us a book of statutes for each state. The book contains all the laws for all of the 50 states. I can transcribe the Pennsylvania statutes and send those to you if you would like. I worked as a paralegal in Pennsylvania. There is a listing of statutes online. The book guiding eyes gave us is a good place to start. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:21 PM, "Marsha Drenth" wrote: > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 15:56:52 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:56:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Message-ID: Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 24 16:13:57 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:13:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01cc9267$ef3645e0$cda2d1a0$@wiennergould.com> There are basically two ways I have dealt with this issue. Currently, my employer simply provides a paid driver. This is cost effective for them because I can work, and therefore be productive, on the road. Moreover, since I brought in a significant account, it is worth it to them. However, you are unlikely to be able to bring in much work right now, so you are going to have to work out a different arrangement. I worked out an intern arrangement with several universities where my office brings on interns for credit and no pay, and they drive me around and assist with other tasks. This works out well, although sometimes you can get a lack of interest for certain semesters. The other option is to use paid drivers on a purely as needed basis. Again, this can be challenging, but you can sometimes find a stay-at-home mom or a retired person that doesn't mind being flexible and making a few extra bucks. My guess though is that at many firms, you won't be traveling much early in your career, as you will be stuck at a desk doing research. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 16:19:45 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:19:45 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A05C@tiger> Hi Kristi, First I am not a lawyer, but as a blind employee, I face the same issues. If the service in Austin is a Para transit service, It will probably not work for you. You need to control your own transportation. Over the years I have used public transit, I have hired a driver, shared rides work co-workers, and at one time hitch hiked. I do not recommend that last one, since the seventies are long gone. As far as small towns, and jobs go, there are a couple of approaches. One is to get the job, and then deal with hiring transportation. I would recommend researching the town first, so you have some options. Remember, if you discuss this during an interview (and you should, because the employer will wonder too) you can talk about the options you could use. Not the subjunctive. You do not have to use the ones you talk about. This has been my approach. You can choose to interview for jobs where you have transportation easily available. If you use public transit as opposed to Para transit, you plan your schedule around the bus schedule. If you must get somewhere at once, you call a cab, assuming there is one. It helps to know a few drivers. If there is no cab, find a retired person who wants to do things, and has a car, and put them on retainer for certain hours. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 24 16:20:16 2011 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:20:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Ms. Wilkins: I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. Please feel free to call. Dan McBride, Attorney Fort Worth 817 847 0023 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rfarber at jw.com Mon Oct 24 16:26:33 2011 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:26:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A202CDCE0B6D@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Kristi - I am a transaction attorney in Houston. While I do not have to go to court, I do need to get to meetings. I have a set ride to and from the office each day. When I have to go to a meeting, I do not use the Metrolift because it takes too much time. Instead I use either a Metro Cab (a service for the disabled) or a regular taxi cab to get to meetings. Since I am located downtown I have no problem getting a taxi cab. Also, what I pay for taxi cabs is less than the $200 per month that I would pay for parking if I was driving. Also, I have a trip to Austin planned for this Friday, October 28, and have some free time before my late afternoon flight. If you would like to get together mid-afternoon to discuss issues, give me a call at 713-752-4241. Randy Farber -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 16:29:06 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:29:06 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with > transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs > (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able > to > get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live > in > Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It > can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short > notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on > their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to > use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been > popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services > Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able > to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the > transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 24 16:48:04 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:48:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free to call. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From kristiwilkins at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 17:03:29 2011 From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:03:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Thank you all so much for your help and advice! The job market is so tight right now that I really hate to limit my search because of my disability. It helps to know that it can be managed. I had never thought of the intern idea, and I could see that working out for a college student looking to find a mentor. As far as hiring a driver (a couple of you mentioned that), did you just put an ad in the paper or on Craigslist? Did you run a background check or anything? I am a young woman and am a little nervous about hiring a stranger to drive me around. Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free to > call. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering > this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication > in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Mr. McBride, > > Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? > > Kristi > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride > wrote: > > > Ms. Wilkins: > > > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > > Please feel free to call. > > > > Dan McBride, Attorney > > Fort Worth > > 817 847 0023 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > > > Good morning, > > > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > > requires me to be able to plan my trips > > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > > > Thanks, > > Kristi > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > > al.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > > gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40gmail.com > From RJaquiss at nfb.org Mon Oct 24 17:11:11 2011 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:11:11 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E77A00BF4@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: I am an Access Technology Specialist working for the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute. If I need to go somewhere on my own, I take the bus or call a cab. If I need to go to Washington DC, Iwould probably get a cab to the nearest train station and catch a train to Union Station. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:57 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Good morning, I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and requires me to be able to plan my trips - something that may not always be possible when things come up on short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have transportation services), what do you do to get around? Thanks, Kristi _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40nfb.org From RJaquiss at nfb.org Mon Oct 24 17:24:04 2011 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:24:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E77A00C08@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: When I hired readers, I usually put an add in my church's bulletin. I would absolutely not put an add in a local paper. When I was in college, I had an arrangement with the local LaLeche League. It was a bit odd, but the mothers in the group were glad for some income and were available when I needed them. My solution was unconventional, but it worked. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422 From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Mon Oct 24 17:27:38 2011 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:27:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> <004501cc926c$b377adf0$1a6709d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865FAE8191@tiger> I have advertised both ways. Craig's list is cheaper. If it meets your comfort level, run a background check. Perhaps you could do so at their expense, and reimburse those who pass? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Thank you all so much for your help and advice! The job market is so tight right now that I really hate to limit my search because of my disability. It helps to know that it can be managed. I had never thought of the intern idea, and I could see that working out for a college student looking to find a mentor. As far as hiring a driver (a couple of you mentioned that), did you just put an ad in the paper or on Craigslist? Did you run a background check or anything? I am a young woman and am a little nervous about hiring a stranger to drive me around. Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I doubt I know more than the McBride guy, but if I can help, feel free > to call. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email > messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the > individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying > to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Mr. McBride, > > Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? > > Kristi > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride > wrote: > > > Ms. Wilkins: > > > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > > Please feel free to call. > > > > Dan McBride, Attorney > > Fort Worth > > 817 847 0023 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org > > [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > > > Good morning, > > > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I > > am legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you > > deal with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for > > some jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned > > about being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > > requires me to be able to plan my trips > > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it > > is difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I > > have seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely > > don't have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are > > you able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers > > understand the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > > > Thanks, > > Kristi > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcgl > > ob > > al.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > blindlaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins% > > 40 > > gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From gpc at browngold.com Mon Oct 24 17:31:56 2011 From: gpc at browngold.com (Greg Care) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:31:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania guide dog law Message-ID: Someone recently asked about any Pennsylvania laws regarding guide dogs. Pennsylvania has split up its "White Cane Law" into different parts of the statutory code, so the part dealing with access to places of public accommodation while accompanied by a service animal is pasted below. Please note that this is a criminal law, enforced by the local prosecutor. Because I am not licensed to practice in Pennsylvania, I'm afraid that I can't be of greater assistance on this. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 7325. Discrimination on account of guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal. A person is guilty of a summary offense if he, being the proprietor, manager or employee of a theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public accommodation, entertainment or amusement, refuses, withholds or denies any person, who is using a guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal that has been certified by a recognized authority to assist a person, because of the physical disability, blindness or deafness of the user, or who is training a guide, signal or support dog or other aid animal for or from a recognized authority for such a user, the use of or access to any accommodation, advantage, facility or privilege of such theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public entertainment or amusement. Gregory P. Care Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. Baltimore Street Suite 1700 Baltimore, Maryland 21202 Phone: 410-962-1030 ext. 1316 Fax: 410-385-0869 gpc at browngold.com www.browngold.com Please consider the environment before printing this email Confidentiality Notice This e-mail may contain confidential information that may also be legally privileged and that is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized agent of the recipient, please be advised that any dissemination or copying of this e-mail, or taking of any action in reliance on the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me immediately by use of the reply button, and then delete the e-mail from your system. Thank you! From gpc at browngold.com Mon Oct 24 17:36:34 2011 From: gpc at browngold.com (Greg Care) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:36:34 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania guide dog law Message-ID: It just occurred to me that you might also be interested in the following PA statutes regarding guide dogs: Title 75 - Vehicles § 3549. Blind pedestrians. (a) General rule.--The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to any totally or partially blind pedestrian carrying a clearly visible white cane or accompanied by a guide dog and shall take such precautions as may be necessary to avoid injuring or endangering the pedestrian and, if necessary, shall stop the vehicle in order to prevent injury or danger to the pedestrian. (b) Effect of absence of cane or dog.--This section shall not be construed to deprive a totally or partially blind pedestrian not carrying a cane or not being guided by a dog of the rights and privileges conferred by law upon pedestrians crossing streets or highways, nor shall the failure of a totally or partially blind pedestrian to carry a cane or to be guided by a guide dog upon the streets, highways or sidewalks of this Commonwealth be held to constitute contributory negligence in and of itself. (c) Penalty.--A violation of subsection (a) constitutes a summary offense punishable by a fine of not less than $50 nor more than $150. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 5511. Cruelty to animals. (a) Killing, maiming or poisoning domestic animals or zoo animals, etc.-- (1) A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if he willfully and maliciously: (i) Kills, maims or disfigures any domestic animal of another person or any domestic fowl of another person. (ii) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any domestic animal of another person or domestic fowl of another person. (iii) Harasses, annoys, injures, attempts to injure, molests or interferes with a dog guide for an individual who is blind, a hearing dog for an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service dog for an individual who is physically limited. Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this paragraph shall be sentenced to pay a fine of not less than $500. (2) A person commits a felony of the third degree if he willfully and maliciously: (i) Kills, maims or disfigures any zoo animal in captivity. (ii) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any zoo animal in captivity. (2.1) (i) A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he willfully and maliciously: (A) Kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise. If a person kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures a dog guide for an individual who is <>, a hearing dog for an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service dog for an individual who is physically limited, whether belonging to the individual or otherwise, that person, in addition to any other applicable penalty, shall be required to make reparations for veterinary costs in treating the dog and, if necessary, the cost of obtaining and training a replacement dog. (B) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise. (ii) Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this paragraph shall be sentenced to pay a fine of not less than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more than two years, or both. The court may also order a presentence mental evaluation. A subsequent conviction under this paragraph shall be a felony of the third degree. This paragraph shall apply to dogs and cats only. (iii) The killing of a dog or cat by the owner of that animal is not malicious if it is accomplished in accordance with the act of December 22, 1983 (P.L.303, No.83), referred to as the Animal Destruction Method Authorization Law. (3) This subsection shall not apply to: (i) the killing of any animal taken or found in the act of actually destroying any domestic animal or domestic fowl; (ii) the killing of any animal or fowl pursuant to the act of June 3, 1937 (P.L.1225, No.316), known as The Game Law, or 34 Pa.C.S. §§ 2384 (relating to declaring dogs public nuisances) and 2385 (relating to destruction of dogs declared public nuisances), or the regulations promulgated thereunder; or (iii) such reasonable activity as may be undertaken in connection with vermin control or pest control. (b) Regulating certain actions concerning fowl or rabbits.-- A person commits a summary offense if he sells, offers for sale, barters, or gives away baby chickens, ducklings, or other fowl, under one month of age, or rabbits under two months of age, as pets, toys, premiums or novelties or if he colors, dyes, stains or otherwise changes the natural color of baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl, or rabbits or if he brings or transports the same into this Commonwealth. This section shall not be construed to prohibit the sale or display of such baby chickens, ducklings, or other fowl, or such rabbits, in proper facilities by persons engaged in the business of selling them for purposes of commercial breeding and raising. (c) Cruelty to animals.-- (1) A person commits an offense if he wantonly or cruelly illtreats, overloads, beats, otherwise abuses any animal, or neglects any animal as to which he has a duty of care, whether belonging to himself or otherwise, or abandons any animal, or deprives any animal of necessary sustenance, drink, shelter or veterinary care, or access to clean and sanitary shelter which will protect the animal against inclement weather and preserve the animal's body heat and keep it dry. (2) (i) Except as provided in subparagraph (ii), a person convicted of violating paragraph (1) commits a summary offense. (ii) A person convicted for a second or subsequent time of violating paragraph (1) commits a misdemeanor of the third degree if all of the following occurred: (A) The action or omission for which the person was convicted for a subsequent time was performed on a dog or cat. (B) The dog or cat was seriously injured, suffered severe physical distress or was placed at imminent risk of serious physical harm as the result of the person's action or omission. (3) This subsection shall not apply to activity undertaken in normal agricultural operation. (d) Selling or using disabled horse.--A person commits a summary offense if he offers for sale or sells any horse, which by reason of debility, disease or lameness, or for other cause, could not be worked or used without violating the laws against cruelty to animals, or leads, rides, drives or transports any such horse for any purpose, except that of conveying the horse to the nearest available appropriate facility for its humane keeping or destruction or for medical or surgical treatment. (e) Transporting animals in cruel manner.--A person commits a summary offense if he carries, or causes, or allows to be carried in or upon any cart, or other vehicle whatsoever, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner. The person taking him into custody may take charge of the animal and of any such vehicle and its contents, and deposit the same in some safe place of custody, and any necessary expenses which may be incurred for taking charge of and keeping the same, and sustaining any such animal, shall be a lien thereon, to be paid before the same can lawfully be recovered, or the said expenses or any part thereof remaining unpaid may be recovered by the person incurring the same from the owner of said creature in any action therefor. For the purposes of this section, it shall not be deemed cruel or inhumane to transport live poultry in crates so long as not more than 15 pounds of live poultry are allocated to each cubic foot of space in the crate. (e.1) Transporting equine animals in cruel manner.-- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person commits a summary offense for each equine animal if the person carries, or causes or allows to be carried, any equine animal in or upon any conveyance or other vehicle whatsoever with two or more levels stacked on top of one another. A person who violates this subsection on a second or subsequent occasion commits a misdemeanor of the third degree for each equine animal transported. (f) Hours of labor of animals.--A person commits a summary offense if he leads, drives, rides or works or causes or permits any other person to lead, drive, ride or work any horse, mare, mule, ox, or any other animal, whether belonging to himself or in his possession or control, for more than 15 hours in any 24 hour period, or more than 90 hours in any one week. Nothing in this subsection contained shall be construed to warrant any persons leading, driving, riding or walking any animal a less period than 15 hours, when so doing shall in any way violate the laws against cruelty to animals. (g) Cruelty to cow to enhance appearance of udder.--A person commits a summary offense if he kneads or beats or pads the udder of any cow, or willfully allows it to go unmilked for a period of 24 hours or more, for the purpose of enhancing the appearance or size of the udder of said cow, or by a muzzle or any other device prevents its calf, if less than six weeks old, from obtaining nourishment, and thereby relieving the udder of said cow, for a period of 24 hours. (h) Specific violations; prima facie evidence of violation.-- (1) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person crops, trims or cuts off, or causes or procures to be cropped, trimmed or cut off, the whole or part of the ear or ears of a dog. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cropping, trimming or cutting off the whole or part of the ear or ears of a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent any person from causing or procuring the cropping, trimming or cutting off of a dog's ear or ears by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with an ear or ears cropped, trimmed or cut off and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this subsection by the person except as provided for in this subsection. (iv) A person who procures the cropping, trimming or cutting off of the whole or part of an ear or ears of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (2) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person debarks a dog by cutting, causing or procuring the cutting of its vocal cords or by altering, causing or procuring the alteration of any part of its resonance chamber. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cutting the vocal cords or otherwise altering the resonance chamber of a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring a debarking procedure by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with the vocal cords cut or the resonance chamber otherwise altered and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the cutting of vocal cords or the alteration of the resonance chamber of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (3) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person docks, cuts off, causes or procures the docking or cutting off of the tail of a dog over five days old. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from docking, cutting off or cropping the whole or part of the tail of a dog when the dog is at least 12 weeks of age and the procedure is performed using general anesthesia and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring the cutting off or docking of a tail of a dog by a veterinarian as provided in this paragraph. (iii) The provisions of this section shall not prevent a veterinarian from surgically removing, docking, cutting off or cropping the tail of a dog between five days and 12 weeks of age if, in the veterinarian's professional judgment, the procedure is medically necessary for the health and welfare of the dog. If the procedure is performed, it shall be done in accordance with generally accepted standards of veterinary practice. (iv) The possession by any person of a dog with a tail cut off or docked and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (v) A person who procures the cutting off or docking of a tail of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (4) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person surgically births or causes or procures a surgical birth. (ii) The provisions of this section shall not prevent a veterinarian from surgically birthing a dog when the dog is anesthetized and shall not prevent any person from causing or procuring a surgical birthing by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with a wound or incision site resulting from a surgical birth unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the surgical birth of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (v) This paragraph shall not apply to personnel required to comply with standards to minimize pain to an animal set forth in section 2143(a)(3) of the Animal Welfare Act (Public Law 89-544, 7 U.S.C. § 2131 et seq.), trained in accordance with section 2143(d) of the Animal Welfare Act, who work in a federally registered research facility required to comply with the Animal Welfare Act under the guidance or oversight of a veterinarian. (5) (i) A person commits a summary offense if the person cuts off or causes or procures the cutting off of the dewclaw of a dog over five days old. (ii) The provisions of this paragraph shall not prevent a veterinarian from cutting the dewclaw and shall not prevent a person from causing or procuring the procedure by a veterinarian. (iii) The possession by any person of a dog with the dewclaw cut off and with the wound or incision site resulting therefrom unhealed, or any such dog being found in the charge or custody of any person or confined upon the premises owned by or under the control of any person, shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this paragraph by the person, except as provided in this paragraph. (iv) A person who procures the cutting off of the dewclaw of a dog shall record the procedure. The record shall include the name of the attending veterinarian and the date and location at which the procedure was performed. The record shall be kept as long as the wound or incision site is unhealed and shall be transferred with the dog during that period of time. (h.1) Animal fighting.--A person commits a felony of the third degree if he: (1) for amusement or gain, causes, allows or permits any animal to engage in animal fighting; (2) receives compensation for the admission of another person to any place kept or used for animal fighting; (3) owns, possesses, keeps, trains, promotes, purchases, steals or acquires in any manner or knowingly sells any animal for animal fighting; (4) in any way knowingly encourages, aids or assists therein; (5) wagers on the outcome of an animal fight; (6) pays for admission to an animal fight or attends an animal fight as a spectator; or (7) knowingly permits any place under his control or possession to be kept or used for animal fighting. This subsection shall not apply to activity undertaken in a normal agricultural operation. (i) Power to initiate criminal proceedings.--An agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals, incorporated under the laws of the Commonwealth, shall have the same powers to initiate criminal proceedings provided for police officers by the Pennsylvania Rules of Criminal Procedure. An agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals, incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth, shall have standing to request any court of competent jurisdiction to enjoin any violation of this section. (j) Seizure of animals kept or used for animal fighting.-- Any police officer or agent of a society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth, shall have power to seize any animal kept, used, or intended to be used for animal fighting. When the seizure is made, the animal or animals so seized shall not be deemed absolutely forfeited, but shall be held by the officer or agent seizing the same until a conviction of some person is first obtained for a violation of subsection (h.1). The officer or agent making such seizure shall make due return to the issuing authority, of the number and kind of animals or creatures so seized by him. Where an animal is thus seized, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide such care as is reasonably necessary, and where any animal thus seized is found to be disabled, injured or diseased beyond reasonable hope of recovery, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide for the humane destruction of the animal. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of subsection (h.1) shall order the forfeiture or surrender of any abused, neglected or deprived animal of the defendant to any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth and shall require that the owner pay the cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal. (k) Killing homing pigeons.--A person commits a summary offense if he shoots, maims or kills any antwerp or homing pigeon, either while on flight or at rest, or detains or entraps any such pigeon which carries the name of its owner. (l) Search warrants.--Where a violation of this section is alleged, any issuing authority may, in compliance with the applicable provisions of the Pennsylvania Rules of Criminal Procedure, issue to any police officer or any agent of any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth a search warrant authorizing the search of any building or any enclosure in which any violation of this section is occurring or has occurred, and authorizing the seizure of evidence of the violation including, but not limited to, the animals which were the subject of the violation. Where an animal thus seized is found to be neglected or starving, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide such care as is reasonably necessary, and where any animal thus seized is found to be disabled, injured or diseased beyond reasonable hope of recovery, the police officer or agent is authorized to provide for the humane destruction of the animal. The cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal shall be paid by the owner thereof and claims for the costs shall constitute a lien upon the animal. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may require that the owner pay the cost of the keeping, care and destruction of the animal. No search warrant shall be issued based upon an alleged violation of this section which authorizes any police officer or agent or other person to enter upon or search premises where scientific research work is being conducted by, or under the supervision of, graduates of duly accredited scientific schools or where biological products are being produced for the care or prevention of disease. (m) Forfeiture.--In addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may order the forfeiture or surrender of any abused, neglected or deprived animal of the defendant to any society or association for the prevention of cruelty to animals duly incorporated under the laws of this Commonwealth. (m.1) Fine for summary offense.--In addition to any other penalty provided by law, a person convicted of a summary offense under this section shall pay a fine of not less than $50 nor more than $750 or to imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or both. (m.2) Prohibition of ownership.--Notwithstanding any provision of law and in addition to any other penalty provided by law, the authority imposing sentence upon a conviction for any violation of this section may order the prohibition or limitation of the defendant's ownership, possession, control or custody of animals or employment with the care of animals for a period of time not to exceed the statutory maximum term of imprisonment applicable to the offense for which sentence is being imposed. (n) Skinning of and selling or buying pelts of dogs and cats.--A person commits a summary offense if he skins a dog or cat or offers for sale or exchange or offers to buy or exchange the pelt or pelts of any dog or cat. (o) Representation of humane society by attorney.--Upon prior authorization and approval by the district attorney of the county in which the proceeding is held, an association or agent may be represented in any proceeding under this section by any attorney admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania and in good standing. Attorney's fees shall be borne by the humane society or association which is represented. (o.1) Construction of section.--The provisions of this section shall not supersede the act of December 7, 1982 (P.L.784, No.225), known as the Dog Law. (p) Applicability of section.--This section shall not apply to, interfere with or hinder any activity which is authorized or permitted pursuant to the act of June 3, 1937 (P.L.1225, No.316), known as The Game Law or Title 34 (relating to game). (q) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection: "Animal fighting." Fighting or baiting any bull, bear, dog, cock or other creature. "Audibly impaired." The inability to hear air conduction thresholds at an average of 40 decibels or greater in the better ear. "<>." Having a visual acuity of 20/200 or less in the better eye with correction or having a limitation of the field of vision such that the widest diameter of the visual field subtends an angular distance not greater than 20 degrees. "Conveyance." A truck, tractor, trailer or semitrailer, or any combination of these, propelled or drawn by mechanical power. "Deaf." Totally impaired hearing or hearing with or without amplification which is so seriously impaired that the primary means of receiving spoken language is through other sensory input, including, but not limited to, lip reading, sign language, finger spelling or reading. "Domestic animal." Any dog, cat, equine animal, bovine animal, sheep, goat or porcine animal. "Domestic fowl." Any avis raised for food, hobby or sport. "Equine animal." Any member of the Equidae family, which includes horses, asses, mules, ponies and zebras. "Normal agricultural operation." Normal activities, practices and procedures that farmers adopt, use or engage in year after year in the production and preparation for market of poultry, livestock and their products in the production and harvesting of agricultural, agronomic, horticultural, silvicultural and aquicultural crops and commodities. "Physically limited." Having limited ambulation, including, but not limited to, a temporary or permanent impairment or condition that causes an individual to use a wheelchair or walk with difficulty or insecurity, affects sight or hearing to the extent that an individual is insecure or exposed to danger, causes faulty coordination or reduces mobility, flexibility, coordination or perceptiveness. "Zoo animal." Any member of the class of mammalia, aves, amphibia or reptilia which is kept in a confined area by a public body or private individual for purposes of observation by the general public. From: Greg Care Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:32 PM To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' Cc: 'marsha.drenth at gmail.com' Subject: Pennsylvania guide dog law Someone recently asked about any Pennsylvania laws regarding guide dogs. Pennsylvania has split up its "White Cane Law" into different parts of the statutory code, so the part dealing with access to places of public accommodation while accompanied by a service animal is pasted below. Please note that this is a criminal law, enforced by the local prosecutor. Because I am not licensed to practice in Pennsylvania, I'm afraid that I can't be of greater assistance on this. Title 18 - Crimes and Offenses § 7325. Discrimination on account of guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal. A person is guilty of a summary offense if he, being the proprietor, manager or employee of a theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public accommodation, entertainment or amusement, refuses, withholds or denies any person, who is using a guide, signal or service dog or other aid animal that has been certified by a recognized authority to assist a person, because of the physical disability, blindness or deafness of the user, or who is training a guide, signal or support dog or other aid animal for or from a recognized authority for such a user, the use of or access to any accommodation, advantage, facility or privilege of such theatre, hotel, restaurant or other place of public entertainment or amusement. Gregory P. Care Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. 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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 24 17:52:03 2011 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:52:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues In-Reply-To: References: <003301cc9268$d1659010$7430b030$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <004701cc9275$a38abff0$eaa03fd0$@sbcglobal.net> Ms. Wilkins: Any time between 8AM and 9PM is fine. If you are available at this time, I am as well. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:29 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues Mr. McBride, Thank you! I will give you a call. Is there a time that is best? Kristi On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ms. Wilkins: > > I am glad to share my experiences of 29 years in this regards with you. > Please feel free to call. > > Dan McBride, Attorney > Fort Worth > 817 847 0023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Kristi Wilkins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:57 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Transportation Issues > > Good morning, > > I am a recent law graduate and am in the middle of a job search. I am > legally blind and can't drive. I was wondering how some of you deal > with transportation issues. I have been hesitant to apply for some > jobs (especially litigation positions) because I am concerned about > being able to get to and from the office, courthouse, meetings, etc. > Right now, I live in Austin, TX and use the transportation services > provided by Cap Metro. It can sometimes be time-consuming and > requires me to be able to plan my trips > - something that may not always be possible when things come up on > short notice. Also, they are experiencing budget cuts and may be > cutting back on their services soon. We have a bus service, but it is > difficult for me to use for several reasons. A lot of the jobs I have > seen lately have been popping up in small towns, which likely don't > have the extensive services Austin does. Here are my questions: > > 1. If you have transportation services like the one in Austin, are you > able to use them efficiently to get around? Do employers understand > the transportation difficulties that come with being legallly blind? > > 2. If the services don't work for you (or you simply don't have > transportation services), what do you do to get around? > > Thanks, > Kristi > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kristiwilkins%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 21:09:32 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:09:32 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> References: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Message-ID: I have done a quite bit of research in this topic. I am a part of the PA affiliate and am researching this on behalf of Jim and the affiliate. I am trying to see that I have not missed any thing in my research, I want to have all the facts. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:01 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim Atinachi can help as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Good Evening, I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for me, it would be greatly appreciated! Marsha Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6568 (20111023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12 .wi.us _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6569 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From cannona at fireantproductions.com Mon Oct 24 22:08:45 2011 From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:08:45 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC1233865D37A028@tiger> Message-ID: You might try checking the state law section of the NAGDU site. http://www.nagdu.org Don't trust the summary. It may be accurate, but it may also be very out of date. However, they usually have a link to the actual law. NAGDU is the National Association of Guide Dog Users, a division of the NFB. Thanks. Aaron On 10/24/11, Marsha Drenth wrote: > I have done a quite bit of research in this topic. I am a part of the PA > affiliate and am researching this on behalf of Jim and the affiliate. I am > trying to see that I have not missed any thing in my research, I want to > have all the facts. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:01 AM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law > > Marsha, your state probably has an on-line listing of state statutes. This > would be a good place to start. I'm sure that the state NFB president Jim > Atinachi can help as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Marsha Drenth > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:21 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law > > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12 > .wi.us > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. > com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6569 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6571 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6571 (20111024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com > From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov Mon Oct 24 22:12:45 2011 From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:12:45 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal Government Purchasing of ProLaw Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F6087F5EDE@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Please respond only if you know the answer to the following question. Our office is in the midst of perhaps purchasing ProLaw, but is holding off due to the accessibility problems. We have received third hand information that the federal government is no longer allowing purchase of ProLaw due to its accessibility problems. Does anyone know if this is true, and if yes, what federal entity made that decision? Sincerely, Tim Ford From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Oct 24 23:20:01 2011 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:20:01 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Message-ID: Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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LaBarre Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:20 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From marsha.drenth at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 00:12:25 2011 From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com (Marsha Drenth) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:12:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, I got the information I needed. Marsha -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dale Sczweck Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:31 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania, Guide dogs, and the law Marsha, Guiding eyes gave us a book of statutes for each state. The book contains all the laws for all of the 50 states. I can transcribe the Pennsylvania statutes and send those to you if you would like. I worked as a paralegal in Pennsylvania. There is a listing of statutes online. The book guiding eyes gave us is a good place to start. Dale Sczweck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:21 PM, "Marsha Drenth" wrote: > Good Evening, > > I am a resident of Pennsylvania. I am looking for any and all the laws, > ordinances, policies, regulations that pertain to Pennsylvania and guide > dogs and or service animals. I am not a lawyer myself and thus do not have > access to Westlaw. If someone who does, could look up the information for > me, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Marsha > Marsha . Drenth at g mail . com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 6568 (20111023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marsha.drenth%40gmail. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6569 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6571 (20111024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Oct 25 12:33:20 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:33:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart References: Message-ID: Excellent news Scott. And excellent work! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. 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LaBarre Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:20 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] More Good News In Enyart Greetings, as most know, we were victorious in getting the Supreme Court to deny the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Petition for a Writ of Certiorari on October 4th. This kept in place the 9th Circuit's decision issued on January 4th of this year that an entity such as NCBE must offer the accommodations to a test taker with a disability that best ensure that the exam measures the individual's apptitudes and abilities rather than their disability. In Stephanie's case, this meant that NCBE was ordered to provide the Multistate Bar Exam and Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam on a computer with assistive technology. This portion of the litigation tied back to U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer's original grant of a preliminary injunction ordering the accommodations. After the 9th Circuit victory, we moved for summary judgment on Stephanie's claims and asked the Court to issue a permanent injuction ordering the accommodations. I am very pleased to say that today, Judge Breyer granted summary judgment in our favor. Attached you will find an accessible pdf of the decision. Through this whole time, Stephanie has been represented by myself, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy of Baltimore, and Disability Rights Advocates of Berkley. Best, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. 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If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. ----- Original Message ----- From: Freeh, Jessica To: Alpidio Rolon ; Amy Buresh ; Art Schreiber ; Beth Rival ; Bill Packee ; Bob Kresmer ; Carl Jacobsen ; Cassandra McNabb ; Cathy Jackson ; Charlene Smyth ; Christine G. Hall ; Dan Hicks ; Daniel Burke ; Donna Wood ; Duane Iverson ; Elsie Dickerson ; Frank Lee ; Franklin Shiner ; Fred Schroeder ; Garrick Scott ; Gary Ray ; Gary Wunder ; Grace Pires ; J.W. Smith ; James Antonacci ; Jeannie Massay ; Jennifer Dunnam ; Joe Ruffalo ; John Batron ; John Fritz ; Joy Harris ; Joyce Scanlan ; Ken Rollman ; Kim Williams ; Kimberly Flores ; Larry Posont ; Lynn Majewski ; Mary Willows ; Melissa Riccobono ; Michael Barber ; Michael Freeman ; Mika Pyyhkala ; Nani Fife ; Pam Allen ; Parnell Diggs ; Patti Chang ; Patty Estes ; Rena Smith ; Ron Brown ; Gardner, Ron ; Sam Gleese ; Scott LaBarre ; Shawn Callaway ; Terry Sheeler Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org Anna Levine Disability Rights Advocates (510) 665-8644 Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers Berkeley, California (October 26, 2011): On Monday, October 24, the Honorable Judge Charles R. Breyer ended a two-year legal battle between a blind law school graduate and a national testing corporation over the graduate's right to use a computer equipped with assistive technology to take the California Bar Exam. Granting Stephanie Enyart's motion for summary judgment, Judge Breyer found that Ms. Enyart is entitled to take the bar exam on a computer equipped with text-to-speech screen reading and visual screen magnification software, as the method that will best ensure that she is tested on her aptitude rather than her disability. Stephanie Enyart, who graduated from UCLA School of Law in 2009 and first sought to take the bar exam that same year, was forced into court by the refusal of the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) to allow her to take the bar exam using her primary reading method, a computer equipped with screen reading and screen magnifying software. Ms. Enyart, who became blind in her early adulthood as a result of macular degeneration, has relied on screen reading and screen magnifying technology to read since college, through law school, and in her professional career. Although Ms. Enyart won a preliminary injunction in early 2010, ordering NCBE to provide her requested accommodations, the case has remained in court for almost two years, as NCBE unsuccessfully challenged the district court's preliminary injunction order first to the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and then to the United States Supreme Court. NCBE argued that it fulfilled its legal obligations to Ms. Enyart by offering accommodations such as Braille or a human reader-notwithstanding evidence that these alternatives do not work well for Ms. Enyart. The courts resoundingly rejected that argument, holding that licensing examinations must be administered to exam takers with sensory impairments in a manner that "best ensures" that they are tested on what the examination purports to measure, rather than on the exam takers' impairments. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Although blind people have practiced law successfully throughout history, we still face unreasonable and unwarranted barriers to entering and achieving success in the profession. Judge Breyer's decision is a tremendous step forward in granting blind Americans seeking to enter the practice of law full and equal access to the process of acquiring their credentials. We applaud this common-sense ruling and expect full compliance going forward from the National Conference of Bar Examiners." Anna Levine of Disability Rights Advocates, an attorney representing the plaintiff, said, "Judge Breyer's decision vindicates Stephanie Enyart's request to take the bar exam on a computer, so that she can be tested on what other examinees are tested on, rather than on how well she uses an unfamiliar reading method. We only wish that NCBE had not fought this simple, justified request so aggressively over the past two years." The suit was filed on November 3, 2009, and charged that the NCBE violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and California's Unruh Civil Rights Act by denying accommodations on the Multistate Bar Examination and the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination, two components of the California Bar Exam controlled by NCBE. The State Bar granted Ms. Enyart's request to use a computer on the essay portions of the bar exam, but was unable to grant her request on the portions controlled by NCBE. Ms. Enyart was represented with the support of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) by Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, Maryland, and the LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., in Denver, Colorado. The plaintiff was further represented by Disability Rights Advocates (DRA), a national nonprofit law center that specializes in civil rights cases on behalf of persons with disabilities, with offices in Berkeley, California, and New York City. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 19:04:43 2011 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] we can't see the street lights but ... Message-ID: <1319655883.63598.YahooMailClassic@web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I found the article at the link below. I sent it to a co-worker of mine who was in the Army for twenty years. She confirmed that when she was stationed in Germany, she saw the stuff mentioned in it. http://www.infowars.com/new-street-lights-to-have-homeland-security-applications/ From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Oct 31 17:05:00 2011 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:05:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Outreach for ACLU Career Opportunity - Counsel for Disability Rights Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:34 AM Subject: Outreach for ACLU Career Opportunity - Counsel for Disability Rights Dear Colleague- The American Civil Liberties Union's (ACLU) is reaching out to the disability community for assistance in filling an opening in its Center for Equality. The position is a Counsel for Disability Rights. Attached is the posting for your convenience. Please forward this career opportunity to your contacts, professionals with disabilities, associations, etc. ------------------------- Akinyemi Banjo/FDWC Policy Advisor U.S. Department of Labor Office of Disability Employment Policy 200 Constitution Ave., NW; S-1011 Washington, DC 20210 Phone: 202-693-7919 Web: http://www.dol.gov/odep/ "The bend in the road is not the end of the road unless you refuse to take the turn." Anon. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CE-02 Equality Center Counsel - Disability Rights-Rhb.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 51669 bytes Desc: CE-02 Equality Center Counsel - Disability Rights-Rhb.pdf URL: From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:20:41 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps Message-ID: hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:20:06 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps Message-ID: hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Mon Oct 31 21:25:09 2011 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:25:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft office, but that is all I know about it. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:37:06 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> References: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: thanks daniel, How is the battery life on your machine do you mind my asking. I have heard you can get up to 7 or 8 hours from a mac. That's a big attraction. Ger On 10/31/11, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, > powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft > office, but that is all I know about it. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI  48307 > Phone:  (248) 841-9405 > Fax:  (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice > of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing > spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs > and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which > are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:28:32 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:28:32 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop Message-ID: hi does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the lcd screen of a laptop are there any brands of laptop that allow this to be done? Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:32:39 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:32:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> References: <008c01cc9813$9170ef80$b452ce80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Hello, The Microsoft office suite on Mac is not accessible at this point. However, you can download open office for free. That is fully accessible and gives access to text documents, spreadsheets, and database. If you have any questions feel free to contact me. I am an assistive technology trainer from Dekalb Illinois and I would be willing to help over the phone or Skype if you would like. Dale Sczweck Assistive Technology specialist for the blind and visually impaired Phone: 815-314-0874 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > I use a Lenovo laptop, x-201, with windows 7 and love it. Its small, > powerful and robust. I don't think a mac gives you access to Microsoft > office, but that is all I know about it. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice > of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing > spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs > and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which > are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Oct 31 22:36:20 2011 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:36:20 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard commands. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 www.emplmntattorney.com Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps hi all I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the practice of law. In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing ms office docs and pdfs. I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, which are I phone apps. Ger -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c om From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:43:54 2011 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:43:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: dale, Thanks very much. Would open office give me full access to ms office documents? These are very common and even if I stopped using these formats myself I would need to be able to access them when others send them. Any further recommendations welcome. Ger On 10/31/11, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. wrote: > The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are > comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP > makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a > laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard > commands. > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > www.emplmntattorney.com > > Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM > To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps > > hi all > I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the > practice of law. > In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for > accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing > ms office docs and pdfs. > > I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? > I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, > which are I phone apps. > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > -- Best wishes Gerard Sadlier From dale.sczweck at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 22:48:15 2011 From: dale.sczweck at gmail.com (Dale Sczweck) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:48:15 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It will give you access to ms word .doc mad .docx. Dale Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > dale, > Thanks very much. > Would open office give me full access to ms office documents? These > are very common and even if I stopped using these formats myself I > would need to be able to access them when others send them. > Any further recommendations welcome. > Ger > > On 10/31/11, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. wrote: >> The answer to this question will depend on what types of technology you are >> comfortable using. For me, a laptop with a Desktop keyboard is ideal. HP >> makes a great machine. If you use a screen reader like JAWS, a >> laptop/desktop will avoid the need to use two different types of keyboard >> commands. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> >> Russell J. Thomas, Jr. >> >> Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. >> >> 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 >> >> Newport Beach, California 92660 >> >> T: (949) 752-0101 >> >> F: (949) 257-4756 >> >> M: (949) 466-7238 >> >> www.emplmntattorney.com >> >> Follow me on Twitter: EmplmntAttorney >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:21 PM >> To: blindlaw; blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [blindlaw] recommendation for laptop and views on gps >> >> hi all >> I wondered if you might be able to recommend laptops you use in the >> practice of law. >> In particular does anyone use an apple mac. How do you find it for >> accessing spreadsheet documents, surfing legal databases and accessing >> ms office docs and pdfs. >> >> I also wondered if anyone uses a gps system. How do you find it? >> I have heard particularly good things about navacon and look around, >> which are I phone apps. >> Ger >> >> -- >> Best wishes >> >> Gerard Sadlier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40rjtlawfirm.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dale.sczweck%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 31 23:10:58 2011 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:10:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop References: Message-ID: Hi Gerard - Do you want to be able to keep reading your notes from the laptop while it is blank, or do you simply want on screen on at all at any time? I take it this has to do with hearings and sighted "snoopers". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard Sadlier" To: "blindlaw" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [blindlaw] turning off the screen of a laptop > hi does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the lcd screen of a > laptop are there any brands of laptop that allow this to be done? > Ger > > -- > Best wishes > > Gerard Sadlier > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3987 - Release Date: 10/31/11 >