[blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

Thu Oct 13 23:36:53 UTC 2011

I believe that ProLaw and JustWear are case management software.  If that is correct, the accessibility of legal case management software has been an issue over many years raised on this list.  We, as a group, need to figure out how to get this problem resolved.

Susan:  Do you work for a federal agency?  If so, you have Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act to rely on in demanding that the government purchase accessible software.  If you work for a state agency, perhaps that state has an executive order or baby Section 508 statute you could use.

However, is there any accessible case management software?  If there is such a thing, I am not aware of it.

Noel Nightingale

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

This is probably going to seem a bit hysterical...but has anyone ever
called to task the government agencies and large firms who insist on
purchasing virtually inaccessible management software?  Even though my
direct supervisor and I have been reminding the administration from the
very beginning that whatever program was selected needed to be
accessible, we were ignored.  I then searched out training on my own,
almost entirely paid for by vocational rehab in our state (rather than
by the office), and am getting resistance from administration and IT at
every turn.  I doubt this is intentional discrimination, but that does
not help me to continue to timely and efficiently do my job.  

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If its worse now than it used to be, its really bad. 

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Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

Thank you for the input.   Unfortunately, the newer versions of ProLaw
have become more and more inaccessible.  I just learned of a JAWS script
writer who wrote ones for older versions of ProLaw.  He is now working
on the newer version of ProLaw, and has found it to be much more
difficult to work with.  ProLaw apparently has some very basic flaws in
how they designed the program.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:10 AM
To: Susan Kelly; NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

In speaking with my instructor from vocational rehab this morning about
JustWare, I mentioned this query regarding ProLaw.  She said that her
one experience with ProLaw was that it had to be entirely scripted for
JAWS.  She did say that was approximately 3 to 4 years ago, so they may
have upgraded its accessibility by now.  Hopefully that is the case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:48 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

And same question with JAWS and JustWare?  Many of the keyboard commands
conflict, so looking for any adjustments anyone may have made.....

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 PM
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Subject: [blindlaw] ProLaw and JAWS

Hi there,

Is anyone out there having any luck in using JAWS with ProLaw?

Sincerely,
Tim Ford

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