From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 1 21:41:50 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:41:50 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: SEC Job announcements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: SEC Job announcements All, The followings are job announcements with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). They are high level with a very short window. Please share this information with your respective networks. Individuals interested should follow the instructions on how to apply in the links provided. Thank you. Job Title: Assistant Director for Operations (Business Manager) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #:12-610968-MP-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/28/2012 to 03/06/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310595000 Job Title: Supervisory Attorney (Assistant Director, Employment Practices) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #: 12-612460-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/29/2012 to 03/07/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310594800 Job Title: Supervisory Human Resources Specialist (Assistant Director, Staff Acquisition) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #:12-610709-MP-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/28/2012 to 03/06/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310595200 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 2 21:50:56 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 15:50:56 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] VACANCY: Department of the Air Force Seeks Disability Program Manager (GS-14) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: FW: VACANCY: Department of the Air Force Seeks Disability Program Manager (GS-14) Importance: High fyi ________________________________ Colleagues, The Department of the Air Force is seeking a Disability Program Manager at the GS-14 level. Please pay close attention to the area of consideration - if you are non-DoD, you must fall into at least one of the remaining categories: Veteran with a 30% or greater disability rating, Schedule A eligible candidate, or eligible for placement through ICTAP. This is a unique opportunity. The incumbent will manage the Department of the Air Force's Disability Program and work closely with me and my colleagues in Diversity Management & Equal Opportunity, Office of the Secretary of Defense, to assist in the development of DoD-wide policy to support implementation of Executive Order 13548, as well as other disability initiatives impacting the DoD civilian workforce of over 700,000 employees, and 3,000,000 active duty military and reserves. The incumbent will primarily perform their duties from the Pentagon, which is very accessible to mass transit. The vacancy announcement is available at http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310758100?share=email. The application deadline is Wednesday, March 07, 2012. As indicated in the vacancy announcement, questions should be directed to Donna W. Barr, Department of the Air Force, Phone: (202)404-3229, TDD: 800-382-0893, Email: DONNA.BARR at AFNCR.AF.MIL. Please disseminate throughout your respective networks. Respectfully, Stephen M. King Director, Disability Programs Co-Director, Workforce Recruitment Program (WRP) Diversity Management & Equal Opportunity Office of the Secretary of Defense 4000 Defense Pentagon, Room 5D641 Washington, D.C. 20301-4000 (703) 571-9327 stephen.king at osd.mil From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Mar 5 17:26:06 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:26:06 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007401ccfaf5$0e040de0$2a0c29a0$@labarrelaw.com> From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 9:14 AM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Current Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Deputy Chief, Litigation Unit, GS-905-15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Narcotic and Dangerous Drug Section Washington, D.C. 12-CRM-NDDS-039 This announcement is open for 45 days. This position closes at midnight on April 16, 2012, Eastern Standard Time. Date posted: 03-02-2012 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-905-13/14/15 Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section Criminal Division U.S. Department of Justice Washington, D.C. 12-CR-CCIPS-037 Applications must be received by CCIPS by March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Detention Center Houston, Texas Senior Attorney Advisor GS-905-12/13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California 12-EDCA-18A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 Special Assistant United States Attorney Vacancy United States Attorney's Office - Northern District of Iowa Office of the Linn County Attorney Announcement Number: 2012-SAUSA-NDIA-02 Hand-carried applications must be received by 5:00 pm CST on Friday, March 16, 2012; mailed applications must be postmarked by Friday, March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California 12-EDCA-18A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office District of South Dakota 12-SD-AUSA-Crim-004 Applications must be received by March 15, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Assistant United States Attorney U.S. Attorney's Office Eastern District of Texas Vacancy Announcement No.: 12-EDTX-611761-AUSA-02 The deadline to apply is Wednesday, March 14, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Attorney Advisor, GS-905-14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development Assistance and Training Section Resident Legal Advisor in Bangladesh 12-CR-OPDAT-040 Applications will be accepted until this position is filled. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Middle District of Alabama Term Appointment not to Exceed 14 Months Announcement No: 12-MDAL-05 Applications must be received by 5:00 p.m. CST on March 14, 2012. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney (Two Year Term Appointment) United States Attorney's Office Honorable Joyce White Vance Northern District of Alabama Vacancy Announcement Number 12-NDAL-04 Applications must be postmarked by the closing date of the announcement or March 13, 2012. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney (CIVIL) United States Attorney's Office District of Maryland Northern (Baltimore) Division 14 Month Term Appointment Announcement Number: 12-MD-06 This announcement will close on March 20, 2012; therefore, resumes, cover letters and transcripts must be e-mailed or received by the closing date. Date posted: 02-28-2012 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Mar 5 19:29:21 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:29:21 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: US DOT - General Attorney (1), FV-0905-G/H, Renton, WA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310746700 Job Title:General Attorney Department:Department Of Transportation Agency:Federal Aviation Administration Job Announcement Number:ANM-RC-12-0122397-24223 SALARY RANGE: $49,820.00 to $94,403.00 / Per Year OPEN PERIOD: Thursday, March 01, 2012 to Thursday, March 22, 2012 SERIES & GRADE: FV-0905-G/H POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time - Permanent DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy(s) - Renton WAView Map WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: U.S. Citizens - This announcement is open to all U.S. Citizens JOB SUMMARY: The Next Generation of Flight is Underway - and you can be part of it! We need you and your fresh ideas to shape the air transportation system of tomorrow, and the way America flies. Come be a part of the new generation in aviation, an industry that is absolutely critical to this nation's economy and security. The Next Generation Air Transportation System (NextGen) is a fundamental transformation of our nation's airspace system. It uses 21st century technologies to meet future demands, avoid gridlock in the sky and on the runways, further improve safety, and protect the environment. For more information on NextGen, watch this brief introduction : NextGen Introduction About the FAA Employment Information Business Component: Northwest Mountain Region, Office of the Regional Counsel. Sample of Duties: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of the Regional Counsel, Northwest Mountain Region, supports the FAA's mission by furnishing timely and respons... (see Duties tab for more duties) The salary range above includes a 21.81% locality rate. No Permanent Change of Station (PCS) payments are authorized. KEY REQUIREMENTS * U.S. Citizen ________________________________ DUTIES: Back to top The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of the Regional Counsel, Northwest Mountain Region, supports the FAA's mission by furnishing timely and responsive legal services to the Regional Administrator and all FAA organizations within the Northwest Mountain Region. The incumbent will handle matters related to enforcement and compliance with the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs), personnel and labor law, litigation, general legal services, environmental reviews, procurement and contract disputes, real estate, and ethics. Attorneys represent the Agency before a variety of administrative forums, including the National Transportation Safety Board, Department of Transportation, U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and FAA Office of Dispute Resolutions. The G pay band is considered developmental and requires less responsibility and more supervision. Identification of promotion in the vacancy announcement does not constitute a commitment or an obligation on the part of management to promote the employee selected at some future date. Promotion will depend upon the selectee meeting training, qualification requirements, and recommendation by the supervisor. ________________________________ QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: Back to top To qualify for this position at the FV-G or FG/GS-11 grade level you must have a JD Degree from an accredited law school, be admitted to practice before the bar of any U.S. jurisdiction, and be an active member of that bar. To qualify for this position at the FV-H or FG/GS-12 level you must meet the FV-G qualifications described above and you must demonstrate in your application that you possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the FV-G or FG/GS-11 grade level in the Federal Service. Specialized experience is experience that has equipped you with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of the position. Specialized experience would include: a. Applies relevant experience and legal knowledge to assignments that have relatively simple legal questions or factual situations and clearly applicable precedents. b. Performs basic legal research and writing assignments under the guidance and close direction of a higher level attorney. c. Experience with and demonstrated skill in the application of relatively clear and specific legal principles, precedents, and ruling. d. Basic skill in case management. The following may substitute for specialized experience at the next lower level to qualify for the FV-H grade level: a. An L.L.M. degree in a related practice area b. Minimum of two years attorney experience in a law firm, corporate legal office, non-profit legal office, non-federal governmental legal office or similar entity. ***This position has a positive education requirement. A copy of your final law school transcripts must accompany your application if you have never held a position as an Attorney with the FAA.*** Foreign education must be evaluated by a private professional organization specializing in interpretation of foreign education credentials or an accredited U.S. educational institution in terms of equivalency to a degree acquired at an American college or university. A copy of the evaluation results must be included in your application package. If you do not include a copy of the evaluation as part of your application package, your foreign education will not be considered. Qualifications must be met by the closing date of the vacancy announcement. Applicants should include examples of their specialized experience in their work history. U.S. Citizen HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED: Applicants may be rated on the extent and quality of experience, education, and training relevant to the duties of the position(s). All answers provided in the on-line process must be substantiated. Knowledge, Skills and Abilities (KSA) 1. Ability to prepare clear and concise reports or documentation that accurately states critical issues, facts, and events. 2. Ability to prioritize, plan, organize and complete multiple work assignments concurrently. 3. Ability to work with a team of individuals consisting of professional, scientific, technical and administrative staff, coordinating work activities, coaching, and resolving problems. 4. Ability to perform computerized research and proficiency with the use of Microsoft Word. Technical Requirements 1. Are you admitted to practice before the bar of any U.S. jurisdiction, and are you an active member of that bar? If so please provide your bar association number(s) and the state bar association's address, phone number, and email (if any) for verification of membership and standing. ________________________________ BENEFITS: Back to top FAA offers an excellent comprehensive benefits programs. To learn more about the federal government benefits, please click here. OTHER INFORMATION: We may use this vacancy to fill other similar vacant positions. Travel may be required. Position may be subject to a background investigation. A one-year probationary period may be required. As a condition of employment, male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must certify that they have registered with the Selective Service System, or are exempt from having to do so under the Selective Service Law. Direct deposit of pay is required. Applicants must apply on-line to receive consideration for this vacancy announcement. Faxed, mailed or e-mailed applications cannot be accepted. Only supplemental documentation, e.g. transcripts or veteran's documentation, will be accepted in combination with your online application. Supplemental documentation can be faxed to 425-227-2199, please include your name and the vacancy announcement number on all faxed documents. Please ensure you answer all questions and follow all instructions carefully. Errors or omissions may impact your rating or may result in you not being considered for the job. As a part of the Federal-Wide Hiring Reform Initiative (streamlining the hiring process), the FAA is committed to eliminating the use of the Knowledge, Skills and Ability (KSA) narratives from the initial application in the hiring process for all external announcements. Therefore, as an applicant for this external announcement, you are NOT required to provide a narrative response in the text box listed below each KSA. In lieu of providing a KSA narrative response in the text box listed below each KSA, in your work history, please include work history that describes how you meet the answer you chose for each KSA. Your work history examples should be specific and clearly reflect the highest level of ability. Your KSA answers will be evaluated further to validate whether the level that you selected is appropriate. Your answers may be adjusted as appropriate. Eligible applicants meeting the minimum qualification requirements and selective factor(s), if applicable, may be further evaluated on the Knowledge, Skills and Abilities (KSA) listed in the announcement. Based on this evaluation, applicants will be placed in one of the following categories: score order, category grouping, or alphabetical and referred to the selecting official for consideration. FAA organizations may offer enhanced annual leave accrual to newly appointed or reappointed employees. In order to receive consideration for such a benefit, applicants' prior non-Federal service or active duty uniformed service must directly relate to the duties of the position to which appointed. Granting enhanced annual leave is at the sole discretion of the hiring organization, and granting such benefit is not an entitlement nor guaranteed to any newly hired employee. Some, none, or all of the candidates may be interviewed. This is not a bargaining unit position. Links to Important Information: Locality Pay, COLA, Citizenship, Financial Disclosure ________________________________ HOW TO APPLY: Back to top You must apply online to receive consideration. Your application must have a status of "Submitted" by 11:59 PM Central Time on the Close Date for it to be accepted. If you are applying for positions associated with FAA registers, your application must have a status of "Submitted" each time a referral list is created in order to receive consideration for positions associated with register. REQUIRED DOCUMENTS: You must submit proof of veterans preference (DD-214, and, if claiming 10-point preference, SF-15 plus proof required by that form) as requested by the Human Resource Office. Veterans Preference will only be considered based on what is supported. If you fail to provide the required documents within the stated time period, the Human Resource office may withdraw a job offer and/or remove you from further consideration. **For General Attorney, FV-0905-G/H positions, veterans' preference does not apply, therefore, submission of a DD-214 or other veterans' preference documentation is only needed if appointed.** You will be required to provide proof of U.S. Citizenship. Education Requirement: This position has a positive education requirement. A copy of your final law school transcript must accompany your application if you have never held a position as an Attorney with the FAA. Supplemental documentation can be faxed to 425-227-2199, please include your name and the vacancy announcement number on all faxed documents. Foreign Education: Foreign education must be evaluated by a private professional organization specializing in interpretation of foreign education credentials or an accredited U.S. educational institution in terms of equivalency to a degree acquired at an American college or university. A copy of the evaluation results must be included in your application package. If you do not include a copy of the evaluation as part of your application package, your foreign education will not be considered. AGENCY CONTACT INFO: Office of Human Resource Phone: (425) 227-2691 Fax: (425) 227-2199 Email: danielle.hellner at faa.gov Agency Information: Northwest Mountain Region 1601 Lind Ave SW ANM-14 Renton, WA 98057 US Fax: (425) 227-2199 WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT: Candidates for FAA positions are evaluated using our Automated Vacancy Information Access Tool for Online Referral (AVIATOR) system. AVIATOR compares your skills and experience as described in your application with the requirements of the position. If you are found to be an eligible, highly-qualified candidate, you will be referred to the selecting official for further consideration. (In some cases, individuals with priority for special consideration must be considered and selected before other candidates.) Whether or not you are contacted for an interview depends upon the location of the position and the judgment of the selecting official. You can check the status of your application by accessing AVIATOR and selecting the "My Applications" tab. Simply click on the "Status" link in the "Status" column to see whether a list has been sent to the selecting official and if you were included on the list. You can return to your application at any time to review your answers, and until the announcement closes you can change your application. Important - If you make any change to your application, you must resubmit it. If you change your application and do not resubmit it, your changes will not be considered part of your application package, and your previous application will be considered. < Back to ResultsBack to top EEO Policy Statement | Reasonable Accommodation Policy Statement | Veterans Information | Legal and Regulatory Guidance From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Mon Mar 5 19:33:59 2012 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:33:59 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Positive story on me Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E8BB067@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Hi all, Not to blow my own horn, but positive press on one blind law student makes others wish to try. There are some factual errors, but not many. http://issuu.com/stmarysu/docs/goldblue_spring2012/21 Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From LBlake at nfb.org Tue Mar 6 13:35:34 2012 From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:35:34 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Message-ID: Eve Hill, Senior Counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez, Will Keynote at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Identity in the Disability Rights Movement April 19-20, 2012 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Eve Hill, senior counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez at the United States Department of Justice, will be one of two keynote speakers at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium. The symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as: judicial perspectives on the presentation of disability cases, how to influence jurors' perception of disability, the impact of the ADA Amendments Act on employment cases, the role of identity in the disability rights movement, and disability discrimination in health care.. 2012 plenary session presenters: * Adrienne Asch, Edward and Robin Milstein Professor of Bioethics, Yeshiva University * David Ball, jury consultant, Miller Malekpour & Ball * Richard S. Brown, Chief Judge, Wisconsin Court of Appeals * Brian East, senior attorney, Disability Rights Texas * Katie Eyer, Research Scholar and Lecturer in Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School * Donovan W. Frank, U.S. District Judge, District of Minnesota * Arlene S. Kanter, Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor for Teaching Excellence and Professor of Law, Syracuse University College of Law * Peggy R. Mastroianni, legal counsel, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Jane Perkins, legal director, National Health Law Program * Francis A. Polito, Chief Administrative Judge, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Silvia Yee, senior staff attorney, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund 2012 workshop facilitators: * Michael Allen, partner, Relman, Dane & Colfax * Robert Ardinger, president, Ardinger Consultants and Associates * Charles Brown, director, Volunteer Lawyers for the Blind, American Action Fund for Blind Children and Adults * Michael Bullis, parent * Matthew W. Dietz, principal, Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. * Brian Dimmick, staff attorney, American Diabetes Association * Senator Lisa A. Gladden, Maryland General Assembly * Daniel F. Goldstein, partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Judith A. Gran, partner, Reisman Carolla Gran LLP * Katy Kaplan, assistant director, Temple University Collaborative on Community Inclusion of People with Psychiatric Disabilities * Scott C. LaBarre, principal, LaBarre Law Offices, PC * William J. Phelan, IV, partner, The Gowen Group Law Office PLLC * Howard A. Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer, National Association of the Deaf * Jackie Simon, member, Equal Rights Center Board of Directors; broker/owner, Jackie Simon Homes, LLC * Joyce Walker-Jones, senior attorney advisor, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 Student registration fee: $25 A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need. To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp. You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax. Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Law Symposium Coordinator Jernigan Institute NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 E-mail: lblake at nfb.org From dandrews at visi.com Wed Mar 7 05:32:06 2012 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 23:32:06 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Florida State University Resolves Litigation with Students Message-ID: > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > >CONTACT: > >Chris Danielsen > >Director of Public Relations > >National Federation of the Blind > >(410) 659-9314, extension 2330 > >(410) 262-1281 (Cell) > >cdanielsen at nfb.org > > > >Jeffery Seay > >University Communications > >Florida State University > >(850) 644-0277 > >jseay at admin.fsu.edu > > > > >Florida State University Resolves Litigation with Students > > > > > >National Federation of the Blind Praises Comprehensive Settlement Agreement > > > > > >Tallahassee, Florida (March 6, 2012): Florida >State University and two students who are >blind­Christopher Shane Toth and Jamie Ann >Principato­have resolved a >lawsuit >brought by the two students with the assistance >of the National Federation of the Blind last summer. > > > >The students claimed that they experienced >discrimination in violation of state and federal >disability laws, including failure to reasonably >accommodate their disability and lack of >accessible technology. As a result, they >claimed, they were unable to complete courses >related to their academic majors. > > > >Without admitting liability or wrongdoing, the >university has agreed to pay each of the >students $75,000 in settlement of their claims >and to continue its efforts to make courses >accessible to all students. Specifically, the >university will examine technology-based >instructional materials currently in use for >accessibility compliance, and ensure >accessibility in future software and hardware procurements. > > > >“We are extremely pleased with this settlement >agreement, which will benefit all current and >future blind students at Florida State,” said >Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the National >Federation of the Blind. “We commend the >university for showing leadership and commitment >to treating students with disabilities equally >and hope that other institutions of higher >learning will follow the example set by Florida State.” > > > >“I am greatly relieved and pleased that this >litigation has been resolved and look forward to >continuing my academic career at Florida State >on an equal basis with my sighted peers,” Principato said. > > > >“We are committed to the success of all of our >students, including those with disabilities,” >said Garnett S. Stokes, provost and executive >vice president for academic affairs at Florida >State. “We will continue our efforts to make >our institution a welcoming and rewarding >environment for students with disabilities.” > >The plaintiffs are represented in this matter by >Daniel F. Goldstein, Sharon Krevor-Weisbaum, and >Brooke E. Lierman of the Baltimore firm Brown, >Goldstein, and Levy; and Matthew Dietz of the >Miami firm Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. > >### > > > >About the National Federation of the Blind > >With more than 50,000 members, the National >Federation of the Blind is the largest and most >influential membership organization of blind >people in the United States. The NFB improves >blind people’s lives through advocacy, >education, research, technology, and programs >encouraging independence and self-confidence. It >is the leading force in the blindness field >today and the voice of the nation's blind. In >January 2004 the NFB opened the National >Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the >first research and training center in the United >States for the blind led by the blind. From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:07:38 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:07:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <621725.370810.1331132858706.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To my dismay, I have just learned that I have to write the Washington state bar examination after a lengthy hiatus from the practice of law. If I want to use the computer, I have to use exam soft From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:07:37 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <24211811.361485.1331132857320.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To my dismay, I have just learned that I have to write the Washington state bar examination after a lengthy hiatus from the practice of law. If I want to use the computer, I have to use exam soft From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:21:34 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:21:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <27981124.370817.1331133694450.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net> (trying (Trying again) To my dismay, I have just learned(Trying again) To my dismay, I have just learned that I must write the Washington state bar that I must write the Washington state bar again) From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 02:26:52 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:26:52 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Message-ID: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 02:40:16 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:40:16 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> Hello Andrew, Have you considered the iPod Touch or other Apple iOS devices? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:26 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 9 02:44:05 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:44:05 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> Hello, If you are thinking of the victor reader stream, you may also want to look at the booksense xt from hims, which supports bluetooth (hims inc) or bookport plus which supports wireless and internet radio from APH. Otherwise, you may be talking about the ipod touch or even an iphone. On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:31:24 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:31:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <009c01ccfda5$1c82ff40$5588fdc0$@com> Thanks Denise. I will be looking into these. I guess I'm not as familiar with the Apple products as I need to be. Hope things are well with you. I follow the goings on via IL-Talk, and look forward to getting back to Chicago after I'm done here at BLIND, Inc. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:44 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello, If you are thinking of the victor reader stream, you may also want to look at the booksense xt from hims, which supports bluetooth (hims inc) or bookport plus which supports wireless and internet radio from APH. Otherwise, you may be talking about the ipod touch or even an iphone. On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40amerit > ech.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:33:37 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:33:37 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009d01ccfda5$6b9e9d50$42dbd7f0$@com> Aser, Thanks for your response. I do need to look further into the Apple products. A couple other people wrote back with the same suggestion. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:40 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello Andrew, Have you considered the iPod Touch or other Apple iOS devices? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:26 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From rfarber at jw.com Fri Mar 9 03:52:38 2012 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:52:38 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 04:10:19 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:10:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Randy, Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book Sense. I will look into it. Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:51:06 2012 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 08:51:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: I'd still say that a small laptop is: 1 ONly slightly less portable and 2 so much more powerful! You can do everything on it. G On 3/9/12, Andrew Webb wrote: > Randy, > > Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book > Sense. I will look into it. > > Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > > Regards, > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Farber, Randy > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Andrew > > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more > expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 12:50:38 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are worth learning. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Randy, Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book Sense. I will look into it. Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Mar 9 16:05:17 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:05:17 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 16:24:16 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:24:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books in epub format, but not protected formats. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould . >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 9 16:52:10 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:52:10 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Victories in Our Ongoing Saga with the National Conference of Bar Examiners, Braille Monitor, February 2012 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EC8D8A17@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EC8D8A17@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: I want to call your attention to the article by Scott LaBarre, the president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, in this month's issue of the Braille Monitor, which is linked and pasted below. Noel Link: http://www.nfb.org/search/node/national%20conference%20of%20bar%20examiners Text: Victories in Our Ongoing Saga with the National Conference of Bar Examiners by Scott C. LaBarre >From the Editor: Scott LaBarre is president of the National Federation of the Blind of Colorado and the National Association of Blind Lawyers. He is a practicing lawyer in Denver who coordinates many of the legal cases we take on. An active litigator, he knows a lot about the law and is capable of putting the victories we achieve into English so that we can all appreciate and benefit from them. Here is what Scott has to say about technology and high-stakes testing: The year is now 2012, and the Congress passed into law the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) nearly twenty-two years ago. This landmark legislation declared boldly that discrimination on the basis of disability was strictly prohibited. The Act carried this mandate to all manner of entities from public facilities like restaurants and hotels to employers large and small. Section 309 of the ADA directs testing agencies to ensure that their examinations are administered in a non-discriminatory manner. Congress charged the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) with promulgating regulations to enforce this part of the Act. The relevant DOJ regulation states that a testing agency offering an exam must assure that "the examination is selected and administered so as to best ensure that, when the examination is administered to an individual with a disability that impairs sensory, manual, or speaking skills, the examination results accurately reflect the individual's aptitude or achievement level or whatever other factor the examination purports to measure, rather than reflecting the individual's impaired sensory, manual, or speaking skills." As most people know, the ADA requires covered entities to provide accommodations for an individual's disability so that whatever good, service, or employment is offered is accessible to the individual with a disability. Therefore it is no surprise that a testing agency is required to provide accommodations. With such clear direction from Congress and DOJ, refusal of a testing agency to provide accommodations should be a thing of the distant past. But, as we learned when we were children, it is never safe to make assumptions. I graduated from the University of Minnesota Law School in 1993. At that time assistive technology was far more limited than it is now. Although I used Artic Vision to create DOS-based WordPerfect documents and conduct rudimentary legal research using a modem and a slow dial-up service, I certainly did not have access to electronic texts and other legal material digitally. So I employed other techniques like live readers and law books on cassette from Recordings for the Blind (now Learning Ally) and Minnesota State Services for the Blind. When I took the bar exam, I used a person to read the text and a typewriter to produce the essay portions of the exam. The world of the twenty-first century law student is far different. Every book now begins as an electronic file. Students can get every textbook and other material in an electronic format. As a result a blind law student can use screen-reading software to read the required material, and every blind law student I know either relies heavily on assistive technology or uses electronic texts exclusively. My own law practice has changed dramatically over the years. When I first hung out my shingle, I relied extensively on human readers. Today I use my chief legal assistant to read some short passages from faxes or print mail that come into the office, but, if I have long documents, I either have immediate electronic access to them or have my legal assistant turn paper documents into electronic text. Generally speaking, the legal profession has gone almost completely digital. Most courts in the land now require that documents of any type be filed in an electronic format. I can read much faster and control my place in the text much more efficiently using my JAWS (Job Access with Speech) screen reader. In some ways I have become more effective because I can process material more quickly than I could previously and can assign my assistant to take care of a variety of tasks demanded by the cases coming through my office. Ultimately every blind lawyer or blind person has to select from the arsenal of alternative techniques that allows him or her to get the job done. In fact the ADA recognizes this individuality and calls upon covered entities to evaluate reasonable accommodations case by case. The concept of making accommodations for a person's disability has been around for decades, and it is the law of the land. As lawyers and as a legal profession, we are supposed to have a heightened awareness of the law, even if the specific area at issue is not an individual lawyer's specialty. We would expect testing agencies that work regularly and frequently with test takers with disabilities to be particularly mindful and aware of their obligations under the law to provide accommodations. Logically we could expect a testing agency that offers licensing exams in the legal profession to be acutely aware of its obligations and ready to comply with the dictates of the law. Imagine my surprise when the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) refused to provide the accommodation most frequently used by law students. NCBE offers a number of examinations, but, most important, it offers the Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) and Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination (MPRE). The MBE is a two-hundred-question multiple-choice exam testing several areas of the law, and it is used in something like forty-eight jurisdictions in the country. The MPRE is a much shorter multiple choice exam that tests the applicant's knowledge of the ethical rules governing the practice of law. In just about every state a person has to pass both of these exams, along with some other essay exams, to become licensed. For an aspiring lawyer the MBE and MPRE are mandatory in almost every state, and these examinations are difficult enough that it is hard to achieve passing scores. This means that a blind applicant's most familiar and strongest alternative technique must be employed to give the blind test taker the best shot at passing these difficult exams. As I mentioned previously, the vast majority of blind law students today use various screen readers to access their law school materials and take their exams. It is not difficult to understand why blind bar applicants coming out of law school today wish to take the MBE and MPRE using assistive technology. Using a screen reader permits the blind test taker to move quickly through the text and go back and forth with ease to reread various passages, an ability necessary in the bar examination. In 2009 Stephanie Enyart contacted me and told me that NCBE practice was to deny blind bar applicants the use of assistive technology on the MBE and MPRE. She is a blind 2009 honors graduate of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Law. She also served as the first president of the National Association of Law Students with Disabilities and was also a member of the NFB chapter in the western Los Angeles area. Stephanie knew that she wanted to take the bar examination in late 2009 or early 2010 and needed to use a combination of JAWS and ZoomText. Her initial research revealed that NCBE would not allow her to use these technologies, even though the California Bar Association would allow her to use them on the state portion of the exam. At first I thought this would be a pretty easy problem to solve. Either I, as president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, or Dr. Maurer, as president of the National Federation of the Blind, could contact NCBE, explain the problem and the proper use of assistive technology, and then walk away with a solution. I refer you to my earlier discussion of making assumptions. In early 2009 we started our contact with NCBE and urged them to change their policy. To this day their national policy still precludes the use of assistive technology on the portions of the bar examination that they control. Despite their loud and vociferous protestations before the nine different federal courts where we have appeared, I still cannot understand why they continue to refuse to offer the bar examination with the accommodations needed by these blind law students. NCBE has consciously decided to spend millions of dollars in legal fees fighting us rather than finding a workable solution. Erica Moeser, president of NCBE, and Dr. Maurer became pen pals for several months in 2009, and NCBE even had contact with the International Braille and Technology Center for the Blind at the Jernigan Institute. At the end of this process NCBE decided that it would continue its practice of denying the use of assistive technology on the bar examination. In the alternative, they offered Stephanie and others the use of a human reader, a large CCTV, the examination on an audio CD, or the examination in Braille. This was the menu, and applicants could select from only these choices. Let me digress to address some of the comments that I have heard from within and outside the blindness community. They go something like this: "Life isn't perfect for a blind person, and you just need to accept whatever is offered. As blind people we have to be tougher. So suck it up and take the test with a reader or whatever. After all, many of us used readers in the past and did so successfully." Although I agree that blind people generally must be tougher and more resourceful, this does not mean that we must climb much higher peaks if more reasonable and practical approaches are readily available. To make some analogies, sighted test takers are not forced to take the exam without their eye glasses or contacts. Neither are they forced to read the exam upside down, even though they might be able to manage with great effort to do so. If forced to compete in this way, it would be virtually impossible for them to perform at their best and demonstrate what they really know since a majority of their brainpower and concentration would be required to focus on reading rather than on the question and its answer. The bar examination and other professional examinations like it are high-stakes, high-pressure exams and require test takers' maximum concentration. If blind applicants are unfamiliar with using readers, CCTVs, or other accommodations, they should not be forced to use an unfamiliar method to take one of the most important tests that they will ever take. Nevertheless, this is precisely what NCBE wanted Stephanie and others to do. To make a long story a bit shorter, we were not able to negotiate successfully with NCBE and had no other option but to sue for violations of the ADA in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in early November of 2009. Because Stephanie applied to take the February 2010 California Bar Examination, we had precious little time to get the kind of court ruling we needed for her to take the examination with the accommodations she had used in law school. Therefore we filed a motion for preliminary injunction, an urgent motion that tells the court that it must act quickly on a matter because, if it does not, the opportunity being addressed will have passed, and there will be no way to correct the wrong done in the future. Bar examinations are offered only twice each year, and, if people cannot take an exam, their careers are delayed by at least six months. This may not seem like a big deal, but, when you consider that the average law student now racks up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt for outrageous law school tuition, a six-month delay is far from trivial. It is critical for a newly graduated law student to become licensed and employed as soon as possible. I haven't worked on this case alone. NCBE is a large organization with tens of millions of dollars of revenue each year. It has the capacity to hire some of the nation's largest and most powerful law firms, and it has done exactly that throughout the course of this litigation. To combat this inherent advantage for NCBE, we had to marshal our best effort to assemble a powerful team as well. From day one Dan Goldstein of Brown, Goldstein and Levy and I have been the two lead attorneys on this matter. We have had the privilege of working with several other skilled and experienced attorneys in California; Vermont; Washington, D.C.; and elsewhere. In particular we have been greatly aided by Disability Rights Advocates of Berkeley, California, and its executive director, Larry Paradis. Without the tremendous team that we assembled, the victories achieved would not have been possible. This tremendous show of legal power has been possible only because of the resources, philosophy, and commitment of the National Federation of the Blind. We engaged in whirlwind litigation preparation and got the case ready for a hearing before United States District Court Judge Charles Breyer at the end of January 2010. By the way, Judge Breyer is the brother of United States Supreme Court Justice Steven Breyer. The oral arguments went very well, and on February 4, 2010, Judge Breyer granted our motion for preliminary injunction and ordered NCBE to provide Stephanie Enyart with the accommodations she needed to take the February 2010 California Bar Examination. Immediately after we achieved this successful order, NCBE filed an emergency motion with the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit asking that court to prevent Judge Breyer's order from taking effect. The Ninth Circuit denied the emergency motion but did allow NCBE to pursue its appeal of Judge Breyer's preliminary order on the normal docket of the court. A preliminary injunction is a temporary order and not the final ruling of the court. It is extraordinary relief and very rarely granted. To gain relief on future administrations of the bar examination, we would need to achieve another preliminary injunction or a permanent injunction. Because well over half of the applicants who take the California Bar Examination fail, needing another injunction from the court stood as a real possibility in February of 2010. Unfortunately, like the majority of her fellow applicants, Stephanie did not pass the exam in February. We had to go back to Judge Breyer in June and get another order. Despite NCBE's best efforts, we achieved that order as well. This allowed Stephanie to take the July 2010 bar examination with her requested accommodations. Meanwhile three blind applicants in Maryland--Tim Elder, Ann Blackfield, and Michael Whitwer--requested the use of assistive technology on the Maryland Bar Examination, but NCBE of course denied their requests. We filed a similar preliminary injunction motion with the United States District Court of Maryland, and the case got assigned to U.S. District Court Judge Frederick Motz. Unfortunately he ruled against us. In my view his reasoning was greatly flawed and a terrible interpretation of the law. One can read more about Judge Motz's decision and the earlier parts of this NCBE saga in my article, "SWEP and the Bars of Our Prison," which ran in the October 2010 Braille Monitor. In California the Ninth Circuit appeal continued. We filed our appellate brief during the summer of 2010, and the Ninth Circuit scheduled oral arguments for December. Dr. Maurer and I, along with the entire legal team, prepared Dan Goldstein to argue before the court, and Dan delivered a tremendous argument on December 6. At the hearing the court made it clear to us that it wanted to rule quickly and that it felt great skepticism about NCBE's arguments. Let me pause to address some of the arguments NCBE has trotted out everywhere we go on our tour of the United States federal court system. NCBE argues that individuals with disabilities do not get to choose unilaterally the accommodation they wish to use. Throughout this litigation NCBE has referred to Stephanie's request for the use of assistive technology as her "preferred accommodation" and has often characterized her request as something that was trivial or a matter of whimsy. NCBE argues that, because Stephanie has used readers and CCTVs in the past, she could use them now on the bar examination. It also argues that the DOJ regulation I cited at the beginning of this article should be ignored and that a testing agency does not need to provide the accommodation that best ensures that the test taker's abilities and knowledge are measured, but that NCBE is only obligated to provide some reasonable accommodation. This argument is flawed for many reasons. The bar examination is a high-pressure, high-stakes exam. Applicants must be able to concentrate at peak efficiency to pass. If blind applicants are spending a great deal of effort working with unfamiliar or inefficient accommodations, their concentration is diverted, to their detriment. Additionally, Congress and the DOJ adopted strong language regarding testing entities, presumably because examinations are far different from employment and other situations covered by the ADA. When working with an employer or in a classroom, a long-term relationship exists in which the individual with a disability can work with the entity to determine the most reasonable and efficient accommodation. Conversely, licensing examinations are often one-shot opportunities given under a great deal of pressure, and applicants with disabilities must be able to use the accommodations with which they are most familiar and comfortable. Additionally, NCBE has also made the argument that it is not covered by the ADA. It makes this argument because it is the state bar in each jurisdiction that administers the overall bar examination and decides how to administer it. Therefore NCBE says that it does not directly offer the exam. The major problem with this argument is that NCBE makes the decision about what accommodations will be offered on its portions of the exam. Moreover, NCBE gives explicit instructions on how to administer its examinations, and, if a state bar does not follow those instructions, that state bar risks having all of its NCBE exams invalidated. In every case we have brought in this ongoing saga, the state bars have been more than willing to grant the use of assistive technology as a reasonable accommodation but have not been allowed to do so on the NCBE examinations because NCBE makes that call. NCBE's third major argument is that to offer the bar exam with assistive technology poses an undue burden on it. This is certainly not true in a financial sense because NCBE passes the cost of the accommodation on to the individual state bar organization. Furthermore, NCBE has millions of dollars of revenue each year and always reports substantial revenues in excess of expenses. On January 4, 2011, Louis Braille's two-hundred-second birthday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued an opinion in this matter. It ruled that Judge Breyer was correct to issue a preliminary injunction, and therefore it affirmed his order that NCBE provide the use of assistive technology as an accommodation on the portions of the bar examination it controls. Additionally the Ninth Circuit confirmed that NCBE's reasonable-accommodation argument is not the proper standard. The court said the DOJ "best ensured" regulation should be applied. The Ninth Circuit is the first appellate court to address and rule on the question of whether the DOJ regulation should apply. This decision represents an extremely important and precedent-setting victory for any individual with a disability seeking accommodations on an examination offered by a private entity. Next chronologically in this saga is Tim Elder's application to take the California Bar Examination. Incidentally, Tim is a two-time winner of NFB scholarships. He now serves as second vice president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, but in January of 2011 Tim was not yet a licensed attorney in California and needed to take that state's bar examination. When he requested the use of his preferred screen reader to take the MBE and MPRE, NCBE of course denied the request. We filed another motion for preliminary injunction in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. Tim's case was assigned to the Honorable Susan Illston. On February 11, 2011, we appeared before Judge Illston and went over the same old arguments with NCBE. Judge Illston ruled in our favor, and Tim took the February 2011 California Bar Examination with the use of JAWS. Judge Illston cited what was then the very recently issued decision of the Ninth Circuit to support her ruling. Additionally she explicitly ruled that NCBE could not hide behind its argument that it did not fall under the provisions of the ADA because it did not offer the exam. By this time one would have thought that NCBE would have gotten the message that the trend was going against it. However, NCBE filed a petition for writ of certiorari before the United States Supreme Court. Our Supreme Court has what is called discretionary jurisdiction over the cases filed with it. This means that the court does not have to hear every appeal made to it. In fact the reality is that the Supreme Court hears less than one percent of all cases it is asked to review. In its petition to the Supreme Court, NCBE raised the same old legal arguments, and several testing organizations filed their own amicus briefs urging the Court to take this case. Meanwhile other blind applicants made known their wishes to take portions of the bar exam using assistive technology. Katherine Bonnette of Washington wished to take the July 2011 Washington, D.C., Bar Examination with JAWS, and NCBE denied her application. Again we filed a motion for preliminary injunction, this time before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. United States District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Cotelly ruled in our favor on July 13, 2011, and she cited Judge Breyer's decision, the Ninth Circuit's ruling, and Judge Illston's opinion. She order NCBE to provide Katherine Bonnette with the MBE using JAWS. In Vermont Deanna Jones, one of our members, applied to take the MPRE. At that time she was about to start her third year of law school at the University of Vermont, where she had always used ZoomText and Kurzweil 3000 to take her exams. It is common for those in the third year of law school to take the MPRE and get that part of the bar exam out of the way. As usual, NCBE denied Deanna's request for the use of assistive technology, and we filed a motion for preliminary injunction before the U.S. District Court for the District of Vermont. On August 2, 2011, Chief Judge Christina Reiss granted our motion, and once again NCBE was ordered to provide the requested accommodations. Afterwards NCBE appealed Judge Reiss's decision to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, and that appeal is still pending. During the summer 2011 proceedings we filed an additional motion in Stephanie's case. As I mentioned above, a preliminary injunction is only a temporary measure. To make sure that Stephanie Enyart could take the MBE and MPRE again in California, and perhaps in other states, we requested that Judge Breyer make his ruling permanent. We filed a motion for summary judgment, a motion in which you tell the court that, even if it looks at the facts in the light most favorable to the other party, in this case NCBE, we would win as a matter of law. We argued that the "best-ensured" standard is now the law in the Ninth Circuit. We asserted that NCBE could not marshal any facts demonstrating that anything other than the use of assistive technology would best ensure that the bar exam measure her abilities rather than her disability. We introduced several expert witnesses, who all indicated that Stephanie needed to use assistive technology to have the best and fairest opportunity to pass the bar examination. None of NCBE's experts were able to say which accommodation best ensured that Stephanie's abilities would be measured. NCBE again made all the same arguments and also argued that our motion failed because we had no medical doctor who could testify that Stephanie Enyart needed the accommodations she had requested. The Supreme Court started its new term in September of 2011 and reviewed all the petitions filed over the summer, including the one filed by NCBE. We had filed an extensive brief opposing its petition and told the Supreme Court that it should not take NCBE's case and should allow the Ninth Circuit's decision to stand. In early October the Supreme Court denied NCBE's petition and its attempt to have the highest court undo what the Ninth Circuit had decided. On October 11, 2011, we appeared before Judge Breyer again to argue the summary judgment motion. The court took only thirteen days to write a decision, and here is the way we announced the Court's October 24, 2011, finding to the world. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers Berkeley, California (October 26, 2011): On Monday, October 24, the Honorable Judge Charles R. Breyer ended a two-year legal battle between a blind law school graduate and a national testing corporation over the graduate's right to use a computer equipped with assistive technology to take the California Bar Exam. Granting Stephanie Enyart's motion for summary judgment, Judge Breyer found that Ms. Enyart is entitled to take the bar exam on a computer equipped with text-to-speech screen reading and visual screen magnification software as the method that will best ensure that she is tested on her aptitude rather than her disability. Stephanie Enyart, who graduated from UCLA School of Law in 2009 and first sought to take the bar exam that same year, was forced into court by the refusal of the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) to allow her to take the bar exam using her primary reading method, a computer equipped with screen-reading and screen-magnifying software. Ms. Enyart, who became blind in early adulthood as a result of macular degeneration, has relied on screen-reading and screen-magnifying technology to read since college, through law school, and in her professional career. Although Ms. Enyart won a preliminary injunction in early 2010 ordering NCBE to provide her requested accommodations, the case has remained in court for almost two years as NCBE unsuccessfully challenged the district court's preliminary injunction order, first to the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and then to the United States Supreme Court. NCBE argued that it had fulfilled its legal obligations to Ms. Enyart by offering accommodations such as Braille or a human reader, notwithstanding evidence that these alternatives do not work well for her. The courts resoundingly rejected that argument, holding that licensing examinations must be administered to exam takers with sensory impairments in a manner that "best ensures they are tested on what the examination purports to measure, rather than on the exam takers' impairments." Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Although blind people have practiced law successfully throughout history, we still face unreasonable and unwarranted barriers to entering and achieving success in the profession. Judge Breyer's decision is a tremendous step forward in granting blind Americans seeking to enter the practice of law full and equal access to the process of acquiring their credentials. We applaud this common-sense ruling and expect full compliance going forward from the National Conference of Bar Examiners." Anna Levine of Disability Rights Advocates, an attorney representing the plaintiff, said, "Judge Breyer's decision vindicates Stephanie Enyart's request to take the bar exam on a computer so that she can be tested on what other examinees are tested on, rather than on how well she uses an unfamiliar reading method. We only wish that NCBE had not fought this simple, justified request so aggressively over the past two years." The suit was filed on November 3, 2009, and charged that the NCBE violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and California's Unruh Civil Rights Act by denying accommodations on the Multistate Bar Examination and the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination, two components of the California Bar Exam controlled by NCBE. The state bar granted Ms. Enyart's request to use a computer on the essay portions of the bar exam but was unable to grant her request on the portions controlled by NCBE. Ms. Enyart was represented with the support of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) by Brown, Goldstein and Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, Maryland, and the LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., in Denver, Colorado. The plaintiff was further represented by Disability Rights Advocates (DRA), a national nonprofit law center that specializes in civil rights cases on behalf of persons with disabilities, with offices in Berkeley, California, and New York City. I must put Judge Breyer's ruling in context to explain how extraordinary it is. The American Bar Association has compiled statistics demonstrating that defendants win ADA cases well over ninety-five percent of the time. Plaintiffs almost never win ADA cases, especially on summary judgment. Judge Breyer used the Ninth Circuit's ruling and applied the "best-ensured" standard. He also commented on NCBE's insistence that a medical professional had to opine that Stephanie needed the accommodations she had requested. In our experience as blind people we often hear that a medical doctor has to decide what is best for us. Doctors can tell us that we are blind and how we got there. Very rarely do they have the training to tell us what accommodations and alternative techniques we need. Doctors do not spend their time trying to figure out how to accommodate blindness. Their emphasis is on trying to prevent blindness. Consequently doctors normally do not make good witnesses when telling a court or jury how blindness should be accommodated. Because doctors command so much esteem and automatic respect, courts and juries often give their opinions about practical and most appropriate accommodations too much weight. Fortunately Judge Breyer understood this issue properly and, when addressing NCBE's argument that only a medical professional could speak to what Stephanie Enyart truly needed, he stated, this "argument misses the point of the testimony. The most effective assistive technologies for accommodating Ms. Enyart's disability are not matters that require a medical opinion, but rather experience, skill, and knowledge with the use, application, and evaluation of assistive technologies." In one respect our press release was not entirely accurate. The legal battle has not quite ended. Because we have won a final judgment in Stephanie's case, the ADA allows us to collect attorneys' fees and costs as the prevailing party. Because we have had to litigate so forcefully with NCBE, we have spent several hundred hours on Stephanie's behalf, and we anticipate being able to collect millions of dollars in fees. Once we receive that fee award, that money will go to good use. Despite the fact that we have secured something like seven substantial legal victories against NCBE, with only one bad opinion against us, NCBE is still waging this battle with vigor. As I mentioned previously, Deanna Jones' case is before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, and we expect to have a hearing before that court early this year. As I conclude this article, I remain perplexed about why NCBE has fought so hard to maintain its policy of denying the use of assistive technology on the portions of the bar exam it administers. Part of the problem is that NCBE and many other entities still view the use of accommodations as something special and extraordinary and expect us to feel that any entity that makes any nod to our blindness is doing us a favor and that we should be grateful for what we do receive. Our founder, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek, wrote a landmark law review article entitled "The Right to Live in the World: The Disabled in the Law of Torts." This was one of the earliest pieces of legal writing which clearly established the rights of the blind and otherwise disabled as fundamental human and civil rights. Dr. tenBroek's writing reminds us that accommodations to our disabilities are not acts of charity but rather a means to a level playing field. We have the right to live in a world in which society does not create and maintain artificial barriers preventing us from true equality. With respect to our ongoing saga with NCBE, its policy prohibiting the use of assistive technology on the bar exam creates an artificial barrier. The exams start out as electronic files. Those files can be read with a screen-reading program. Screen-reading programs give blind people independent and immediate access to text. Although the use of this technology cannot give us precisely the same experience as the sighted, for the vast majority of blind bar applicants, their assistive technology gives them as close to the same experience as anything ever has and now can. As the courts have ruled, providing this accommodation does not unduly burden NCBE. So it comes down to a matter of will and choice. Thus far NCBE has chosen to go to great lengths to fight us and has made the strongest possible effort to deny us the common-sense accommodations we need to compete. Although life for us is better than ever before, this saga demonstrates with compelling force that we still have a long journey ahead of us before we can declare our freedom and first-class citizenship. As I sit at this keyboard using assistive technology to write and review this piece, I have no clue how long it will take for us to prevail. I do know, however, that we will emerge victorious. The right to information is a fundamental human right. Technology and the law give us the right and ability to access information on terms of equality with the nondisabled. Still many sectors of society will not acknowledge this right, and therefore we must compel their compliance through legal action. Legal battles like this one are expensive and lengthy. However, the cost of not acting is far greater for blind people. We are far along on our march towards true freedom, and our ultimate destination of full equality is close at hand. Because of the common commitment, love, and philosophy we share, we shall permit no force, not NCBE, not anyone, from stopping us. Freedom will be ours! From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:15:08 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is Apple's own iBooks. The Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and > presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books > in epub format, but not protected formats. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Jacobson > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also > reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know > these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some > extent on newer devices. > > When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should > look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind > which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by > Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not > certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with > a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very > nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and > they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are > not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no > CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple > devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can > be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind > such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that > simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as > the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does > editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. > Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet > through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other > devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and > the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. > How else can I confuse the issue? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > >> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading > needs >> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >> worth learning. > >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering > this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication > in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Randy, > >> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >> Sense. I will look into it. > >> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > >> Regards, >> Andrew > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Andrew > >> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > >> Randy > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece > I'm >> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, > sitting >> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it > to >> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >> > >> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >> there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >> > >> Many thanks in advance! > >> > >> Regards > >> Andrew Webb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould > . >> com > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi > .com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Fri Mar 9 17:15:13 2012 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:15:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E8BCE66@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Hi all, I have a court hearing this morning where I will need to read several questions to witnesses. I use my Iphone and a Refreshabraille 18 braille display. This works very well. Hope this information helps. Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX  78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760  fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:24 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books in epub format, but not protected formats. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to >the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal >reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus >any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a >decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable >products are worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the >individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained >herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you >receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the >Book Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. >The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just >about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the >house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use >it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, >and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my >attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I >wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail >.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennerg >ould . >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >visi .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Mar 9 17:27:27 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:27:27 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: >There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is Apple's own iBooks. The Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. >Respectfully, >Aser Tolentino, Esq. >On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: >> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books >> in epub format, but not protected formats. >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also >> reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know >> these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some >> extent on newer devices. >> >> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should >> look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind >> which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by >> Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not >> certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with >> a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very >> nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and >> they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are >> not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple >> devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can >> be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind >> such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that >> simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as >> the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet >> through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other >> devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and >> the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. >> How else can I confuse the issue? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >> >>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >>> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >>> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading >> needs >>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >>> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >>> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >>> worth learning. >> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >>> attached >>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >> this >>> email >>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>> copying, >>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>> attached to >>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication >> in >>> error, >>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >>> telephoning >>> us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Randy, >> >>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >>> Sense. I will look into it. >> >>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >> >>> Regards, >>> Andrew >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Andrew >> >>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >>> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >> >>> Randy >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Hello all, >> >>> >> >>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >>> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece >> I'm >>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >>> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, >> sitting >>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it >> to >>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >>> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >>> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >>> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. >> >>> >> >>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >>> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >>> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >>> there might be some other good possibilities out there. >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks in advance! >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> Andrew Webb >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould >> . >>> com >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi >> .com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Mar 9 17:57:27 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 12:57:27 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045F620AB904@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> See the conference indicated below, which will have a disability related working group. We would be pleased if you would join us at the American University Washington College of Law for the Inaugural Conference on Global Health, Gender and Human Rights event scheduled for March 21-22, 2012; Day 1 - 3:30pm - 9:00pm Day 2 - 8:30am - 5:30pm To register for this program, please go to www.wcl.american.edu/secle/registration Further information on this program is at http://www.wcl.american.edu/secle/founders/2012/20120321.cfm [cid:image001.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image002.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image003.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image004.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] For additional information please contact the Office of Special Events & Continuing Legal Education Office of Special Events and Continuing Legal Education American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington, DC 20016-8199 (202) 274-4075 (202) 274-4079 - fax www.wcl.american.edu/secle secle at wcl.american.edu For a full listing of our upcoming programs, including those offering CLE, please go to http://www.wcl.american.edu/secle/founders/2012/events.cfm [cid:image005.gif at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] Staff Attorney OAA L.L.M. 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Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is >> Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case > with many ebook and PDF > viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's > and allow you to navigate the > text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of > the operating system screen > reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read >>> books >>> in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages >>> attached >>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >>> this >>> email >>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>> copying, >>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>> attached to >>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>> in >>> error, >>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >>> by >>> telephoning >>> us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also >>> reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know >>> these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some >>> extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should >>> look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind >>> which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by >>> Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am >>> not >>> certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing >>> with >>> a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very >>> nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have >>> and >>> they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are >>> not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The >>> Apple >>> devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and >>> can >>> be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the >>> blind >>> such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't >>> that >>> simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such >>> as >>> the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet >>> through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while >>> other >>> devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense >>> and >>> the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >>>> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to >>>> the >>>> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus >>>> any >>>> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >>>> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products >>>> are >>>> worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages >>>> attached >>>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>>> copying, >>>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>>> attached to >>>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this >>>> communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >>>> by >>>> telephoning >>>> us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the >>>> Book >>>> Sense. I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >>>> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >>>> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just >>>> about >>>> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use >>>> it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents >>>> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange >>>> my >>>> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >>>> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >>>> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my >>>> attention >>>> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >>>> there might be some other good possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 18:39:56 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:39:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> The iPad is similar to the iPhone. For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard. I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books. If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense. I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly >>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go. The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 19:05:39 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:05:39 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> References: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <378E0290-D5A0-41C9-9D12-5A896559D761@gmail.com> I shutter at the prospect of composing even a moderately long email using nothing but the touchscreen, but that's why I carry a bluetooth keyboard. Navigation has recently been made easier by the addition of two features from the Mac version of VoiceOver, an item chooser and search function that can be called upon wherever you are in the operating system. Navigating complicated websites or documents can be difficult on the 3.5 inch screen since sighted users are expected to zoom in as necessary. For this reason, the iPad can be easier to navigate. I've grown so fond of the iPad that it became my preferred method of doing legal research. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > The iPad is similar to the iPhone. For typing I would agree, the laptop is > way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on > an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard. I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod > is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format > and audio books. If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I > would use that instead of an iPod. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. > However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct > in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your > finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable > or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's > fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if > navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and > speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. > > Paul Sullivan > > On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: >> Thank you. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: >> >>> There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>> is Apple's own iBooks. The >> Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the >> case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called >> VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text >> fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent >> of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader >> program on the Mac. >> >>> Respectfully, >>> Aser Tolentino, Esq. >> >>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can >>>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>>> legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>>> strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >>>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>>> such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>>> >>>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>>> it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>>> know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good >>>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>>> better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>>> BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It >>>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>>> coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>>> through a connection to a computer. >>>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Steve Jacobson >>>> >>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are >>>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my >>>>> personal reading >>>> needs >>>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone >>>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple >>>>> portable products are worth learning. >>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>>> is legally privileged. >>>>> If >>>>> you are >>>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>>> delivering >>>> this >>>>> email >>>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>>> prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>>> in >>>>> error, >>>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Randy, >>>> >>>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>>> the Book Sense. I will look into it. >>>> >>>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly >>>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>>> >>>>> Randy >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>>> go. The piece >>>> I'm >>>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>>> around the house, >>>> sitting >>>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could >>>>> use it >>>> to >>>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>>> documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >>>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>>> text. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come >>>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt >>>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>>> possibilities out there. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance! >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>> >>>>> Andrew Webb >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>>> com >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>>> mail.com >>>>> ----- >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>>> 03/08/12 >>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>>> nergould >>>> . >>>>> com >>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>>> n%40visi >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>>> com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>>> gmail.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>> 0visi.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 >> %40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 9 19:21:48 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:21:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, if Andrew is going to consider a computer, he may want to think seriously about the macbook air. --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: From: Daniel K. Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 12:39 PM The iPad is similar to the iPhone.  For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard.  I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books.  If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe.  The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome.  I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is  Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well.  Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such?  I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called.  I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice.  I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better.  HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight.  >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do.  The choice just isn't that simple, though.  It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage.  The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice.  But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch.  I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible.  The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense.  The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited.  Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much.  Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense.  I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>>    I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device.  It is slightly >>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go.  The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc.  I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats.  I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines?  It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream  might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 19:48:29 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:48:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008501ccfe2d$9a1c6f80$ce554e80$@wiennergould.com> For pleasure, those are great. For work as an attorney though, I can't imagine not going with a windows computer, but I haven't really used a Mac. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello, if Andrew is going to consider a computer, he may want to think seriously about the macbook air. --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: From: Daniel K. Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 12:39 PM The iPad is similar to the iPhone.  For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard.  I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books.  If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe.  The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome.  I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is  Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well.  Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such?  I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called.  I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice.  I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better.  HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do.  The choice just isn't that simple, though.  It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage.  The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice.  But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch.  I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible.  The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense.  The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited.  Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much.  Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense.  I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>>    I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device.  It is slightly >>>>more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go.  The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc.  I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats.  I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines?  It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream  might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.ne t _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 20:57:56 2012 From: wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com (keri) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:57:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] credit scores References: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com><1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <008501ccfe2d$9a1c6f80$ce554e80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: greetings, I'm looking to try to obtain my credit score. I've done the anual credit reports, but they don't include my credit score. I have registered for creditkarma and they say I have a "thin" file. I don't have money currently to pay a bunch to get my credit score. I'm thinking about getting a credit card to help build my credit up. Since now days you can't do anything without credit... Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keri From awebb2168 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 01:48:24 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:48:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: <003101ccfe5f$e3f60080$abe20180$@com> Thanks! Good points! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:51 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I'd still say that a small laptop is: 1 ONly slightly less portable and 2 so much more powerful! You can do everything on it. G On 3/9/12, Andrew Webb wrote: > Randy, > > Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the > Book Sense. I will look into it. > > Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > > Regards, > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Farber, Randy > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Andrew > > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more > expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmai > l.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: > 03/08/12 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From zmayfarth23 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:56:58 2012 From: zmayfarth23 at gmail.com (Zachariah M) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:56:58 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Post secondary education accommodations Message-ID: Hello All, I have a situation that I would like some guidance on. I'm an undergraduate student who has multiple disabilities, namely cerebral palsy and legal blindness. Professors both this semester and last have refused to provide accommodations. I have talked to my professors in their office, sent them numerous emails and talked with disability services to no avail. I would appreciate any advice or assistance you all could provide me. Thank you, Zachariah Mayfarth From wmodnl at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 20:58:19 2012 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (Wmodnl) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:58:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Post secondary education accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, Sorry to here of your problems in school. What college/university are you attending? Most schools have offices of affirmative action (OOA), that you can contact when your DS office is not working with you. Learn the chain of command: EG> your directors/supervisors of that office. Finally, you may want to check out the various state and local organizations for the blind. Your state should also have a Disability Law Center (DLC). Good luck. William O'Donnell, distributor Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. www.willsholistics.organogold.com Sent from my iPad On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Zachariah M wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a situation that I would like some guidance on. I'm an undergraduate > student who has multiple disabilities, namely cerebral palsy and legal > blindness. Professors both this semester and last have refused to provide > accommodations. I have talked to my professors in their office, sent them > numerous emails and talked with disability services to no avail. I would > appreciate any advice or assistance you all could provide me. > > Thank you, > > Zachariah Mayfarth > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com > From awebb2168 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 02:10:37 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:10:37 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple Message-ID: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Hello Everyone, First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? Thanks in advance. Andrew From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 02:19:04 2012 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:19:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I use a Mac, and I use a program called Vuescan, which can be found at http://www.hamrick.com/ It has basic OCR, so nothing flashy, but it will read documents, books, mail, etc. For more sophisticated needs or more varied scan environments, keep in mind that you can run a windows virtual machine on a Mac, allowing you to use OpenBook or whatever. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ From awebb2168 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 02:20:43 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:20:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows Message-ID: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Hello again, For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? Thanks, Andrew From dravant at ameritech.net Tue Mar 13 02:45:01 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:45:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> References: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Message-ID: Hello Andrew, I use windows 7 and ms word and outlook and internet explorer at work. I use mostly apple products at home. I use text edit or pages on my mac, making shore to save or convert documents to word documents if I need to take them to work. However, I write all my briefs and letters at work. I can read work documents on my apple devices just fine if all I need to do is read. I do not use excel or ms access very much at all, and cannot realy comment on the apple equivalent of numbers and keynote. Since I have an iphone 4s and an ipad, it is very easy to sync all of my appointments to my mac. I do use openbook at work, which is where I do all of my scanning. if I should need to scan at home, I run windows in a virtual window on my mac using a program called vm ware viewer, so that I can run openbook if needed. If you wish to find a scanning program for the mac, you may want to look at serotech's docu scan product. This e program is compatible with both windows and the mac, and I think if you own a license on one platform, serotech will let you have the other license on the other platform for a nominal fee. e. But check with serotech to be sure about the latter statements. if you are seriously considering the mac, you may want to join a list even if only for a short time called macvisionaries. it is a google groups list. When I was deciding on whether to even get a mac, i joined this list, and the people who knew the mac inside and out, answered most if not all of my questions. You will find some law students and lawyers on the list. So it could be a helpful resource. On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello again, > > > > For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you > do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means > of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your > Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible > to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > > > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Tue Mar 13 11:00:41 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> References: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Message-ID: <002901cd0108$881c13c0$98543b40$@wiennergould.com> If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows Hello again, For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? Thanks, Andrew _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Tue Mar 13 14:50:42 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:50:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <002901cd0108$881c13c0$98543b40$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Daniel, In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless that has changed. The problem isn't with VoiceOver, as I understand it, but how Office for the MAC is written. In addition, while you can exchange documents between Apple's TextEdit or even Open Office, there are compatibility issues there. Therefore, and this is not a knock on Apple at all, I would tend to want to use whichever platform is being used by an office within which you work. Although people do it, I'm not sure I would even try using Windows on a MAC because there are just unknowns there although I don't doubt it works. If one is working independently, then one definitely should examine Windows and Macs to figure out which would work best for them. I am convinced that MACs are probably more stable and that there are other advantages, but the fact is that the two platforms are different and each has advantages and disadvantages. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. >Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, >and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, >iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows >Hello again, > >For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you >do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means >of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your >Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible >to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > >Thanks, >Andrew >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From mworkman.lists at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:23:32 2012 From: mworkman.lists at gmail.com (Marc Workman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:23:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BF32CE6-2672-453D-8D6C-20FDA8191F0F@gmail.com> Steve wrote, In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless that has changed. I'm not sure if and when they weren't compatible, but iWork, Apple's version of Office, has been more or less accessible to Voiceover users for at least the year and a half that I've had my Mac. I believe the suite of apps was updated in 2009, so that might have been when they became accessible. I say more or less accessible because I think there is general, though not unanimous agreement, that *advanced* word processing and spreadsheet work is, at the very least, easier and involves fewer workarounds when using Office and a Windows screen reader. My understanding is that there are pretty significant accessibility issues with Keynote, the Apple equivalent to Power Point. Reading presentations is possible, but creation is, at best, difficult. Regarding compatibility issues, I have had problems opening and editing .doc files when switching from one platform to the other, so I now try to save things in RTF, though there may be issues with adopting that practice in all situations. Regards, Marc On 2012-03-13, at 8:50 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Daniel, > > In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless > that has changed. The problem isn't with VoiceOver, as I understand it, but how Office for the MAC is > written. In addition, while you can exchange documents between Apple's TextEdit or even Open Office, > there are compatibility issues there. Therefore, and this is not a knock on Apple at all, I would tend > to want to use whichever platform is being used by an office within which you work. Although people do > it, I'm not sure I would even try using Windows on a MAC because there are just unknowns there although > I don't doubt it works. If one is working independently, then one definitely should examine Windows and > Macs to figure out which would work best for them. I am convinced that MACs are probably more stable > and that there are other advantages, but the fact is that the two platforms are different and each has > advantages and disadvantages. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > >> If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. >> Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, >> and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, >> iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. > >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows > >> Hello again, > >> > >> For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you >> do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means >> of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your >> Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible >> to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Andrew > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >> com > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mworkman.lists%40gmail.com From wmodnl at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 18:56:28 2012 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (Wmodnl) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:56:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, is about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since it makes and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a personal reader or going back to windows. William O'Donnell, distributor Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. www.willsholistics.organogold.com Sent from my iPad On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > > > First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive > responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple > IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other > solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. > > > > For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on > options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil > and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its > own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. > I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people > just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com > From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 18:59:37 2012 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:59:37 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I find the Kurzweil programmes very clunky. Good for what they do but clunky. What do sighted people use for OCR? On MAC or Windows? I realize they don't have the same need of it. On 3/13/12, Wmodnl wrote: > > I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, is > about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since it makes > and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a personal reader or > going back to windows. > > William O'Donnell, distributor > Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. > www.willsholistics.organogold.com > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive >> responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple >> IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other >> solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, >> etc. >> >> >> >> For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on >> options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that >> Kurzweil >> and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its >> own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is >> satisfactory. >> I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people >> just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Tue Mar 13 19:10:09 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:10:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: <007801cd014c$e8916f40$b9b44dc0$@wiennergould.com> Omnipage. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple I find the Kurzweil programmes very clunky. Good for what they do but clunky. What do sighted people use for OCR? On MAC or Windows? I realize they don't have the same need of it. On 3/13/12, Wmodnl wrote: > > I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, > is about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since > it makes and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a > personal reader or going back to windows. > > William O'Donnell, distributor > Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. > www.willsholistics.organogold.com > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive >> responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. >> Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there >> are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, >> neb books, etc. >> >> >> >> For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment >> on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding >> that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe >> that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no >> idea if it is satisfactory. >> I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do >> people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmai >> l.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Mar 13 19:18:45 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:18:45 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003501cd014e$1e103d30$5a30b790$@labarrelaw.com> From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:05 PM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Current Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Western District of Oklahoma 12-OKW-01-A 03-08-2012 Resumes must be received no later than Friday, March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-12-2012 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-905-13/14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Narcotic and Dangerous Drug Section Washington, D.C. 12-CRM-NDDS-045 This announcement is open for 30 days. This position closes at midnight on April 13, 2012, Eastern Standard Time. Date posted: 03-12-2012 Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of Tennessee Vacancy Announcement Number 12-EDTN-05 Applications must be received by Friday, March 30, 2012. Date posted: 03-09-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Texas Announcement Number 12-SDTX-08 (HOUSTON - CRIMINAL) The position is open until filled. The initial cutoff date for receipt of applications is March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-09-2012 United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, Voting Section Trial Attorney, GS-12/15 Announcement Number: 12-ATT-007 Applications are being accepted from March 7, 2012 through 11:59 PM, March 28, 2012. Date posted: 03-08-2012 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-905-14/15 Office of International Affairs U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Duty Location Washington, DC Announcement Number 12-CRM-OIA-044 Submissions must be post-marked or received no later than 11:59 p.m. eastern standard time, on April 5, 2012. Date posted: 03-06-2012 Special Assistant United States Attorney Uncompensated United States Attorney's Office District of Connecticut Position is open until filled. Date posted: 03-06-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Northern District of Texas Dallas, TX Vacancy Announcement 12-NDTX-AUSA-D619555 The deadline to apply is March 20, 2012. Date posted: 03-06-2012 United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Fresno, California 12-EDCA-19A Applications should be postmarked no later than Tuesday, March 27, 2012. Date posted: 03-06-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Northern District of Texas Fort Worth or Lubbock, TX (one position) March 5, 2012 - March 19, 2012 Vacancy Announcement # 12-NDTX-AUSA-F613566 The deadline to apply is March 19, 2012. Date posted: 03-05-2012 From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Mar 13 19:19:56 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:19:56 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] {Disarmed} FW: Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern In-Reply-To: <1331664751700.886433.47194071.bulletin.info@messages.whitehouse.gov> References: <1331664751700.886433.47194071.bulletin.info@messages.whitehouse.gov> Message-ID: <003a01cd014e$486e08a0$d94a19e0$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: White House Disability Group [mailto:info at messages.whitehouse.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:53 PM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern The White House Tuesday, March 13, 2012 Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern If you received this email as a forward but would like to be added to the White House Disability Group email list, please visit our website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/disability-issues-contact and fill out the "contact us" form in the disabilities section, or you can email us at disability at who.eop.gov and provide your full name, city, state, and organization. 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Contact the White House The White House • 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW • Washington, DC 20500 • 202-456-1111 From RJaquiss at nfb.org Wed Mar 14 15:03:36 2012 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:03:36 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E7AF12496@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: Serotek does offer a solution for the Mac. It is called DocuScan. I have tried it with the HoverCam unit. Print quality is very important. When I tested the DocuScan last August, I found it possible to overload the system. On a Mac, DocuScan is a cloud based application. The Hovercam can capture images quite rapidly about one page per second. The images must be transmitted to Serotek for processing. The text is then available to the user. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss Access Technology Specialist National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, MD 21230 Phone: (410) 659-9314, Ext. 2422 Email: rjaquiss at nfb.org -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:11 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple Hello Everyone, First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? Thanks in advance. Andrew _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40nfb.org From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:30:35 2012 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:30:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] (OT) accessible NCAA men's basketball tournament bracket Message-ID: Hello fellow listers, please pardon the off-topic post. I thought some of the college basketball fans among us might be interested in this accessible NCAA tournament bracket. Terrell Thompson, a former colleague and IT accessibility specialist, creates an accessible bracket every year. I think it is primarily designed with visual impairments in mind, but it has some features that are helpful for people with mobility impairments as well. Feel free to pass the link along to anyone you think might be interested. Here's the link: Accessible NCAA Tournament Bracket (http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa/) Enjoy! Will Miller Attorney at Law William T. Miller, P.A. P.O. Box 7 Kernersville, NC 27285 (336) 497-5160 (phone) (336) 497-5161 (fax) william_t_miller at hotmail.com From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Wed Mar 14 16:51:28 2012 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:51:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Job Announcement for Deputy Regional Manager for OCR in HHS Message-ID: <45909D82C38DBE408DA69213A6A4C777F36A4E8F99@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Want to move to Chicago? Or apply for a job anyway? Here's an announcement of a job as the Deputy Regional Manager for the Office for Civil Rights, within the Department of Health and Human Services. Happy job hunting. /s/ Bennett Prows, J.D. The following vacancy announcement for the Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Deputy Regional Manager), GS-0360-14 - HHS-OS-MP-12-624749 Chicago has posted to USA Jobs, the opening and closing dates are as follow Opening 03/14/2012 - Closing 03/20/2012. Please visit USAJOBS to view the vacancy. Thanks Job Title:Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Deputy Regional Manager) Department:Department Of Health And Human Services Agency:Office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services Job Announcement Number:HHS-OS-MP-12-624749 SALARY RANGE: $105,956.00 to $137,740.00 / Per Year OPEN PERIOD: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 to Tuesday, March 20, 2012 SERIES & GRADE: GS-0360-14 POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time - Permanent PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 14 DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy(s) - Chicago, IL United StatesView Map WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: Status Candidates (Merit Promotion and VEOA Eligibles From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Mar 14 20:31:01 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:31:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: HHS OGC -- Paid internship for 2L (deadline extended to 3/23) In-Reply-To: <0561D41F1784BE4FA02DE66690989E1FEB598E5A03@PL-EMSMB1.ees.hhs.gov> References: <0561D41F1784BE4FA02DE66690989E1FEB598E5A03@PL-EMSMB1.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: From: fangseattle at googlegroups.com [mailto:fangseattle at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Parker, Pamela (HHS/OGC) Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:17 PM To: fangseattle at googlegroups.com Subject: [fangs] HHS OGC -- Paid internship for 2L (deadline extended to 3/23) -- You received this message because you are a federal agency attorney and subscribed to the FANGS group. 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If you have recieved this e-mail in error, or are not its intended recipients, please: do not print, copy, or distribute the above message or its attachments; delete this e-mail from your computer and server; and inform William of this error. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Katie Hathaway Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:17 PM To: Subject: [DRBA] American Diabetes Association seeks part-time legal advocate Dear listmates, We are seeking a part-time legal advocate to help us respond to individuals experiencing diabetes discrimination. This is a contract position through the end of 2012 and is based here in our Alexandria, VA office. The attached description contains more information. Please pass it on to anyone who may be interested. Thanks, Katie Katie Hathaway Director, Legal Advocacy | American Diabetes Association 1701 N. 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From mabrown at ualberta.ca Mon Mar 19 19:33:43 2012 From: mabrown at ualberta.ca (Wade Brown) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:33:43 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry In-Reply-To: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> References: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: Here is Google's help page regarding google apps and accessibility. I've used this info in the past, and most features worked rather well. http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1631886 I found that when working with google docs, it was much easier to download the file, edit it, and re-upload it again later. There were a couple of issues with editing documents when I tried to do it strictly online. That was at least a year ago though, so perhaps they've come up with a better solution. Good luck, Wade Brown JD candidate. University of Alberta. -----Original Message----- From: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:26 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nathan Horne ; jterpslaw at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. M.B.A. and I have established a new law journal, the Mid-Atlantic J. on Law and Pub. Policy. As part of this, I may need to utilize Google Dox. Recently, when utilizing this on-line software, I found it some what difficult with JAWS. I would appreciate any "tips and tricks" on accessing this on-line portal or platform with JAWS. Thanks. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mabrown%40ualberta.ca From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 19 19:39:40 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:39:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry In-Reply-To: References: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AE7@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Thanks much. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wade Brown Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:34 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Inquiry Here is Google's help page regarding google apps and accessibility. I've used this info in the past, and most features worked rather well. http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1631886 I found that when working with google docs, it was much easier to download the file, edit it, and re-upload it again later. There were a couple of issues with editing documents when I tried to do it strictly online. That was at least a year ago though, so perhaps they've come up with a better solution. Good luck, Wade Brown JD candidate. University of Alberta. -----Original Message----- From: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:26 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nathan Horne ; jterpslaw at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. M.B.A. and I have established a new law journal, the Mid-Atlantic J. on Law and Pub. Policy. As part of this, I may need to utilize Google Dox. Recently, when utilizing this on-line software, I found it some what difficult with JAWS. I would appreciate any "tips and tricks" on accessing this on-line portal or platform with JAWS. Thanks. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mabrown%40ualberta.ca _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Mar 20 14:56:25 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:56:25 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] tenBroek Symposium and DRBA Conference, NABL Assistance Available Message-ID: <006b01cd06a9$a1654260$e42fc720$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings, below are announcements regarding the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium and the first ever Disability Rights Bar Association's Conference being held in Baltimore, April 19 and 20. The National Association of Blind Lawyers has some financial assistance available for blind attorneys and law students to attend these events. To learn more about and apply for this assistance, contact Scott LaBarre, President of NABL, at slabarre at labarrelaw.com or 303 504-5979. Three Weeks Remaining to Register! for the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Identity in the Disability Rights Movement April 19-20, 2012 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Don't miss your opportunity to hear Eve Hill, senior counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez at the United States Department of Justice, and other leading disability rights advocates at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium. The symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as: judicial perspectives on the presentation of disability cases, how to influence jurors' perception of disability, the impact of the ADA Amendments Act on employment cases, the role of identity in the disability rights movement, and disability discrimination in health care.. 2012 plenary session presenters: * Adrienne Asch, Edward and Robin Milstein Professor of Bioethics, Yeshiva University * David Ball, jury consultant, Miller Malekpour & Ball * Richard S. Brown, Chief Judge, Wisconsin Court of Appeals * Brian East, senior attorney, Disability Rights Texas * Katie Eyer, Research Scholar and Lecturer in Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School * Donovan W. Frank, U.S. District Judge, District of Minnesota * Arlene S. Kanter, Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor for Teaching Excellence and Professor of Law, Syracuse University College of Law * Peggy R. Mastroianni, legal counsel, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Jane Perkins, legal director, National Health Law Program * Francis A. Polito, Chief Administrative Judge, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Silvia Yee, senior staff attorney, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund 2012 workshop facilitators: * Michael Allen, partner, Relman, Dane & Colfax * Robert Ardinger, president, Ardinger Consultants and Associates * Charles Brown, director, Volunteer Lawyers for the Blind, American Action Fund for Blind Children and Adults * Michael Bullis, parent * Matthew W. Dietz, principal, Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. * Brian Dimmick, staff attorney, American Diabetes Association * Senator Lisa A. Gladden, Maryland General Assembly * Daniel F. Goldstein, partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Judith A. Gran, partner, Reisman Carolla Gran LLP * Katy Kaplan, assistant director, Temple University Collaborative on Community Inclusion of People with Psychiatric Disabilities * Scott C. LaBarre, principal, LaBarre Law Offices, PC * William J. Phelan, IV, partner, The Gowen Group Law Office PLLC * Howard A. Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer, National Association of the Deaf * Jackie Simon, member, Equal Rights Center Board of Directors; broker/owner, Jackie Simon Homes, LLC * Joyce Walker-Jones, senior attorney advisor, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 Student registration fee: $25 A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need. To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp. You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax. Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Law Symposium Coordinator Jernigan Institute NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 E-mail: lblake at nfb.org ***** A Message from Dan Goldstein Listmates, We are pleased, no, let me start that again, We are excited, even pumped, to announce that the First (Annual?) Meeting of the Disability Rights Bar Association will take place, beginning at 12:30 p.m. on Friday, April 20, 2012 at the National Center for the Blind in Baltimore. This will present an unequaled opportunity for those of us who work in disability rights law to meet and learn from each other and to be re-energized and inspired. This could be a major step forward from what has been a vibrant and useful listserv into a true organization of those who champion disability rights. The conference will begin on the heels of the tenBroek Conference on Disability Rights Law which will take place at the National Center for the Blind on Thursday, April 19, 2012 and the morning of April 20. Our conference will then begin with lunch, followed by two superlative panels. The first, moderated by Sam Bagenstos, with co-panelists Deputy Ass't Attorney General Eve Hill from the Civil Rights Division and Steven Schwartz from the Center for Public Representation will talk about the application of Olmstead to employment and other fields. The second, moderated by Linda Dardarian, with Jocelyn Larkin, Executive Director of the Impact Fund and Larry Paradis, Co-Director of Litigation at Disability Rights Advocates will talk about disability class actions post-Dukes. At 5 o'clock, we will recess and go offsite for "War Stories with Food & Drink." The location is yet to be determined, but it would be a pay your own way evening of frivolity and fellowship. We would ask registrants to pay $25 to defray expenses. So that we know how many to expect for lunch, please email _______ by ___________ to indicate whether you will be attending. Daniel F. Goldstein Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. Baltimore St., Suite 1700 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410)962-1030 (410)385-0869 (fax) 443-923-1314 (direct dial) From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 22 19:11:04 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:11:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Feds Crowdsource Ideas to Reduce Technology Hurdles for the Disabled, Nextgov, March 20, 2012 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3ED9296F3@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3ED9296F3@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Link: http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2012/03/government_crowd_sources_508_policy.php Text: Feds Crowdsource Ideas to Reduce Technology Hurdles for the Disabled By Joseph Marks 03/20/12 Federal officials launched an IdeaScale page Monday to crowdsource ideas for reducing the technological barriers disabled Americans encounter when they interact with the federal government as employees or citizens seeking information or services. The page will collect suggestions through April 9. The crowdsourcing initiative follows a series of more formal public listening sessions, according to the IdeaScale page, and a July direction from President Obama to develop a strategic plan for Section 508, a portion of the 1973 Rehabilitation Act focused on making federal IT more accessible to people with disabilities. About 30 suggestions had been posted to the site by Tuesday morning, the most popular of which was standardizing 508 guidelines across agencies. "Whether we are working to achieve the goals of the president's disability executive order, ensuring that people with disabilities have access to services during disasters, improving transportation services or so many other efforts, technology plays a critical role in our success," the White House said in a blog post. "People with disabilities should be able to access their government on an equal footing with all Americans." The post was authored by Kareem Dale, special assistant to the president for disability policy; Lesley Field, acting administrator for federal procurement policy; and Steven VanRoekel, federal chief information officer. The crowdsourcing initiative is sponsored by the Chief Acquisition Officers Council, the Chief Information Officers Council, and the General Services Administration. From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 26 12:15:50 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:15:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Birding for the Blind Event April 2012 Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463224EC0E8@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> From: Amy_Shoop at fws.gov [mailto:Amy_Shoop at fws.gov] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:42 PM Cc: Nell_Baldacchino at fws.gov Subject: Birding for the Blind Event April 2012 Hello Everyone, Want to introduce your visually impaired students or clients to more outdoor activities? Here is a great event where visually impaired individuals can learn to explore birding by ear as an independent hobby! I am sending this email in hopes that you will pass along this information to your visually impaired clients or students with an interest in nature. Overall, the program focuses on teaching the sounds, shape and size of local birds through tactlie exploration and auditory experiences. This exciting hands on morning begins with participants riding on an all electric tram through various habitats (wetlands, meadows, & forests) on the Patuxent Research Refuge listening for bird calls with experts on hand identifying and answering questions. Then proceeds to a tactile experience in which participants can feel actual bird mounts to determine size and shape of many local birds from owls to songbirds. Participants can register at 301-497-5887. We have done this program for the last few years and we are hoping to spread the word. We are reaching out to ask if you would please take a moment to send or give this announcement out to clients/students you feel may be interested and to encourage them to come if interested. Please feel free to call me at 301-497-5776 with questions. We will gladly provide printed flyers for your establishment. Just respond with a good mailing address. Please call or email with any additional questions. Thank you for your support and suggestions! We sincerely hope that you see this opportunity as a valuable one. Thanks so much! Amy Shoop Park Ranger Patuxent Research Refuge 301-497-5776 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This Dialogue is the result of the July 26, 2011 direction from the President to develop a strategic plan for Section 508 and the intent to share the plan with the public. In the development of this plan, the Executive office has met with stakeholders both inside and outside the government and has held a number of listening sessions across the U.S. The Executive office has taken the input from these various initiatives and pulled together a framework for the next phase in our efforts to improve Section 508 management. Before proceeding further with development of the strategic plan, the Executive office is seeking your input. This national dialogue is an opportunity to bring together a diverse community of stakeholders to help shape improvements in how the Federal government manages the Section 508 program. The Executive office is seeking your comments on what has been proposed, encouraging you to propose broad management strategies, tactics, and actions than can ultimately help Federal agencies better comply with Section 508. Select this link for more information about the goals for this dialogue and the next steps to be completed when this dialogue ends on April 9, 2012. Please submit an idea, vote on existing ideas or add your comments on the website provided. http://section508.ideascale.com/ Regards, Akinyemi Banjo /FDWC Policy Advisor U.S. Department of Labor Office of Disability Employment Policy From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Mar 27 19:28:43 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:28:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION closes March 30 Message-ID: Closes this Friday. From: The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right [mailto:3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG] On Behalf Of Phelan, William Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:43 AM To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: [ABA-3D] FW: OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION Two attorney positions at DOJ in DC. William J. Phelan, IV, Esq. Special Projects and Technology Coordinator Commission on Disability Rights American Bar Association william.phelan at americanbar.org http://www.americanbar.org/disabilityrights Notice: The contents of this e-mail may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have recieved this e-mail in error, or are not its intended recipients, please: do not print, copy, or distribute the above message or its attachments; delete this e-mail from your computer and server; and inform William of this error. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Parker, Richard L. (JMD) [mailto:Richard.L.Parker2 at usdoj.gov] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:32 AM To: 'rhondaesq at aol.com'; 'fchabr at comcast.net'; 'hfranks at fgmlaw.com'; 'abedayoub at gmail.com'; 'cprentice at austin.rr.com'; 'chris at license.state.tx.us'; 'jsthom at comcast.net'; Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS); 'pshonb at comcast.net'; 'Sspeilaw at inebraska.com'; 'jkk48 at bellsouth.net'; 'emtelk at optonline.net'; ABA Commission on Disbility Rights; ABA Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity; Rivera, Nicole; 'cgjoslin at ucdavis.edu'; 'info at jewishlawyers.org'; 'gladlaw at glad.org'; 'jwu at glad.org'; ABA Commission on Hispanic Legal Rights & Responsibilities; ABA Commission on Women in the Profession; ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division; 'info at acb.org'; 'musallam at wcl.american.edu'; 'information at advancingequality.org'; 'frost at law.edu'; 'president at apaba-dc.org'; 'president-elect at apaba-dc.org'; 'secretary at apaba-dc.org'; 'dbinder at chapman.edu'; 'tpduane at ucsc.edu'; 'neildennis2004 at yahoo.com'; 'legal at adc.org'; 'lmokhiber at adc.org'; 'gaylaw at gaylaw.org'; 'dstern at equaljusticeworks.org'; 'omiller58 at comcast.net'; 'sampa1 at comcast.net'; 'goehl at law.edu'; 'gsf2 at law.georgetown.edu'; 'Ldelacruz at bakkerdelacruz.com'; 'j.a.areizaga at gmail.com'; 'Sarah E Ramirez (sramirez at hnba.com)'; 'careerservices at law.howard.edu'; 'dcoffice at indianlaw.org'; 'hpark at park-law.com'; 'tmatsuoka at napaba.org'; 'npatel at napaba.org'; 'dcheatham at nationalbar.org'; 'GWACbar at yahoo.com'; 'baumds at yahoo.com'; 'sabadc at sabadc.org'; 'president at sabadc.org'; 'vp at sabadc.org'; 'cdo at law.gwu.edu'; 'dbauman at udc.edu'; 'nnguyen at snlawfirm.com'; 'vabadc at gmail.com'; 'maiapham at gmail.com'; 'Elizabeth Kolbe'; 'center at azdisabilitylaw.org'; 'slabarre at labarrelaw.com'; 'cprentice at austin.rr.com'; 'chris at license.state.tx.us'; 'jsthom at comcast.net'; Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS); 'emtelk at optonline.net'; 'info at nod.org' Cc: Nichol, Allison (CRT); Ruisanchez, Alberto (CRT); Turner, Diane (CRT) Subject: OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION As Special Counsel on Diversity Recruitment and Outreach for the United States Department of Justice, I would like to share with you and ask you to disseminate the following vacancy announcement for the position of trial attorney for Olmstead enforcement in our Civil Rights Division's Disability Rights Section located in Washington, D.C.. Justice seeks to attract, retain, and promote individuals of exceptional ability and talent from all walks of life. The work environment and atmosphere is open, diverse, collegial, and inclusive. There are active affinity groups for African-American; Asian-American; Hispanic; lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT); and Native American employees, which are open to all DOJ employees regardless of background. Justice fosters a work environment where people of all backgrounds and experiences may reach their full potential. Thank you for your help in disseminating this vacancy announcement. This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at: http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/attvacancies.html. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-14 ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 12-ATT-003 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD0C14.CDCC7420] About the Office: The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking experienced attorneys for the position of Trial Attorney for Olmstead enforcement in the Disability Rights Section located in Washington, D.C. The Division is primarily responsible for enforcing federal statutes, regulations and executive orders that prohibit, among other things, unlawful discrimination in voting, education, employment, housing, police services, public accommodations and facilities, and federally funded and conducted programs. The Section enforces statutes that prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability. These statutes include the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the ADA Amendments Act, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, the Genetic Information Non-Discrimination Act, and portions of the Help America Vote Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, and Executive Order 12250. The Section has enforcement, certification, regulatory, coordination, and technical assistance responsibilities. Who May Apply: Applications are being accepted from all qualified candidates. Number of Opportunities: 2 Application Period: Applications are being accepted from March 9, 2012 through 11:59 PM, March 30, 2012. Responsibilities and Opportunity Offered: Trial Attorneys in the Section enjoy a diverse practice throughout the country and are responsible for conducting complex pattern and practice investigations (negotiations and occasionally litigation of civil claims) under these statutes. The work primarily involves practice before federal district courts. Trial Attorneys are responsible for screening and developing new matters, and conducting investigations and litigation addressing all aspects of the Section's enforcement duties. Specifically, the core duties and responsibilities are to gather facts through a variety of sources, develop investigations, interview witnesses, conduct case law research, analyze data and evidence with major responsibility for electronic discovery, draft written recommendations for investigation and/or other specific enforcement action, litigate (including all pre-trial and litigation motions practice and discovery actions, including electronic discovery), and negotiate and monitor settlement agreements and consent decrees. As Trial Attorneys for Olmstead enforcement, the incumbents will be responsible for litigating to enforce civil rights for persons with disabilities residing in, or at risk of placement into, nursing homes, health care facilities, and large institutions under the ADA and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Duties include, but are not limited to: (1) conducting investigations, litigation, and negotiations regarding the Division's active Olmstead enforcement program; (2) working with senior managers to develop and establish policies, strategies and priorities for Olmstead enforcement; (3) working with team members to coordinate with other federal agencies to develop strategies for effective and efficient data sharing and case referrals; and (4) conducting selected outreach and training presentations. Required Qualifications: Applicants must possess a J.D. degree, be an active member of the bar in good standing (any jurisdiction), and have a minimum of two and one-half years of post-J.D. experience. Applicants must possess outstanding writing, editing, oral advocacy and organizational skills, solid research skills, and the ability to work cooperatively on a litigation team. Applicants must also be able to excel in a fast-paced, highly demanding environment. In addition, applicants must have knowledge and professional experience related to the ADA, the Rehabilitation Act, the Medicaid Act, and implementing regulations for those statutes. Preferred Qualifications: Given the nature and volume of this work, the following qualifications are preferred: (1) knowledge of state or local government systems for administering the Medicaid Act; (2) demonstrated commitment to public service and/or civil rights; (3) demonstrated skill in negotiation; and (4) significant litigation experience, including with complex electronic discovery. Salary Information: Current salary and years of specialized experience will determine the appropriate salary level within the GS-14 ($105,211 through $136,771.00 per annum). Final selection for these positions will be subject to budgetary funding constraints. Location: Washington, D.C. Relocation Expenses: Relocation expenses are not authorized. Travel: The position requires extended hours and may require some travel. Submission Process and Deadline Date: To apply, please submit a resume, cover letter and a writing sample (a brief or comparable analytic legal exposition that is your work product) by one of the two following means: Diane Turner Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov or Fax: 202-514-6603 No telephone calls please. Internet Sites: This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/attvacancies.html. For more information about the Civil Rights Division, visit the Civil Rights Division's web page. Department Policies: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination because of color, race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, marital status, disability (physical or mental), age, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, genetic information, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, on the basis of personal favoritism, or any non merit factor. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please notify the agency. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis. It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment. Employment is also contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation. Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis. There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting documents). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more). * * * The Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination are not an endorsement by the Department of the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information. Richard L. Parker Special Counsel on Diversity Recruitment and Outreach United States Department of Justice 450 Fifth Street, NW, Suite 10200 Washington, DC 20530 Phone: (202) 514-8912 Fax: (202) 514-0713 Email: Richard.L.Parker2 at usdoj.gov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 381 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Mar 28 12:37:19 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:37:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney's Fees in Disability Rights Cases In-Reply-To: <39705-18298581.1332936124406.JavaMail.SYSTEM@chg-mcm-prod> References: <39705-18298581.1332936124406.JavaMail.SYSTEM@chg-mcm-prod> Message-ID: <016b01cd0cdf$85ca4b40$915ee1c0$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: ABA-CLE Announcement [mailto:aba-cle-announcement at americanbar.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:00 AM To: Scott Charles LaBarre Subject: Attorney's Fees in Disability Rights Cases Trouble viewing? Try Blackberry version Description: Image removed by sender. ABA Description: Image removed by sender. Description: Image removed by sender. NEW CLE PROGRAM! Register for the latest CLE specialty program from the American Bar Association. Attorney's Fees in Disability Rights Cases: Doing Well by Doing Good Thursday, 4/19/12 1:00 PM - 2:30 PM Eastern 1.5 CLE credits requested Webinar This webinar will explore: . The sources of law for attorney's fees . 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Name: image032.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 353 bytes Desc: image032.jpg URL: From dandrews at visi.com Thu Mar 29 02:57:25 2012 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:57:25 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] Message-ID: >From: "Reese" >Subject: [Blindtlk] Fw: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer > accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > >Please circulate this message where ever you feel its appropriate. > >----- Original Message ----- > >Hello list: > >Here's the final word from Spirit Airlines regarding there inaccessible >website. It will follow my final reply to them. Again the US Department of >Transportation has dropped the ball on this one just like they did with the >accessible airport boarding. > >Reese > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peachtreetravel.net" >To: "Spirit Airlines" >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible >using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > >Dear Michelle: > >First I want to thank you for researching this serious matter both for me >and all of the members of my Organization. Regretfully I'll have to inform >the 50,000 members of my organization to do business else where until Spirit >Airlines website is accessible once again. For this is the only way to >achieve fare and equal access. > >I will check back from time to time to see if true access ever returns to >spirit Airlines and will keep my members up to date. It has been good doing >business with you and hopefully we >can resume doing business again in the future. > >Sincerely yours, > >Maurice P Shackelford > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spirit Airlines" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:38 AM >Subject: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using >speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > > >Subject >--------------------------------------------------------------- >[Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech > > >Discussion Thread >--------------------------------------------------------------- > (Michelle 62611) - 03/27/2012 09:38 AM >Dear Mr. Shackelford, > >Thank you for your patience as we investigated this matter thoroughly. > >We sincerely regret that you are unable to access the check box for the $9 >Fare Club membership and or the check box at the end of the booking. >However, this is not a violation of DOT's disability rule. Please be advised >that airlines are governed under the Department of Transportation and their >disability rule, 14 CFR 382, and are under no legal obligation to provide an >accessible website. We are required, under 14 CFR 382.31(c), to disclose >web-based discount fares to any prospective passenger who contacts the >carrier via other normal channels for inquiring about fares, making a >reservation, or purchasing transportation (e.g. telephone reservation line, >airport ticket counter) and states that he or she has a visual impairment >and is unable to use the website. The carrier must sell a >web-based discount fare to such a person if his or her itinerary qualifies >for the fare as it is offered on the web (e.g., same cities and dates). > >Our IT Department has reviewed your claim and they have informed me that >they changed the boxes on our booking path to styled check boxes which don't >work in the browser types you've attempted to use. The change was made >nearly a year ago and this has been the first complaint brought to their >attention on the matter. They are reviewing options to allow these types of >browsers to work with the needed functionality for our customers with visual >impairments. > >I regret that I cannot offer more information on the matter, but thank you >for bringing this to our attention. > >Please note, if you ever encounter problems when traveling with us, feel >free to ask our Spirit Airlines customer service personnel for a Complaint >Resolution Official (CRO). Our CROs have been specially trained and are >aware of applicable Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of >Transportation (DOT) disability regulations. Our CROs are available at all >airport locations and will be glad to respond to your concerns. > >We trust we have addressed you concerns in a satisfactory manner; however, >if you choose to pursue enforcement action, you have the right to contact >the Department of Transportation, in accordance with ACAA and DOT rule 14 >CFR Part 382. > >Please feel free to contact me if you ever require assistance. We know you >have a choice in air travel and are grateful you choose Spirit Airlines. > >Sincerely, > >Michelle 62611 >Disability Specialist/ >Corporate Escalation Officer >Spirit Airlines From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Mar 29 11:47:14 2012 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: FW: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 Message-ID: <70cb1.3a378a6.3ca5a5c2@aol.com> Hi All, Below is a posting for a vacancy in my office at CMS. Please follow the instructions in the vacancy announcement. I have no role in the selection process, so please don't direct any questions or resumes to me. Thanks, Ronza ____________________________________ From: rothmanjd at gmail.com To: aznor99 at aol.com Sent: 3/29/2012 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: FW: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 ____________________________________ From: [DO NOT REPLY] [mailto:notifications at usajobs.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:33 AM To: rothmanjd at gmail.com Subject: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 Hello Ronza, Below you will find the results of your saved search EEO Specialist. _EEO Specialist_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/312807300) Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services Duty Locations: 1 vacancy(s) - Woodlawn,Maryland Salary: $89,033.00 to $115,742.00 / Per Year Series and Grade: GS-0260-13 Open Period: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 to Tuesday, April 10, 2012 Position Information: Permanent - Full-Time Who May Be Considered: United States Citizens You can make changes or create additional saved searches via the _Saved Searches_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/Applicant/SavedSearches/ListSavedSearches) section of your _USAJOBS_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/) account. This area is located by logging into your USAJOBS account and clicking Saved Searches. Your Search(es) will have an option to modify the criteria. Simply click the Edit hyperlink under the name of the Saved Search to make changes. Thank you for using USAJOBS! The USAJOBS Support Team Please do not reply to this message. Replies to this message are routed to an unmonitored mailbox. If you have questions or comments please go to _http://www.usajobs.gov/resourcecenter_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/resourcecenter) . From johnrsheehan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 15:52:29 2012 From: johnrsheehan at yahoo.com (John Sheehan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1333036349.33173.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The correspondence below has been brought to our attention. While it is true that your airline may be adhering to the "letter" of the law, despite the polite language, it rather avoids the spirit, ie trying to be as accommodating as possible to people who value their independence as they travel and pursue normal lives and activities. As I am sure your IT department can verify - and if they can't, you might want to explore expanding your IT staff - these are not difficult or costly changes to make.  We will be including a condensed version of this correspondence in our E-newsletter and we will certainly help spread the word among the blind community and those who support it that it would be best to explore alternative travel options. Certainly a number of other airlines have managed to include the blind community - and they will be the ones who get our business. Congratulations on being so successful that the large numbers of people involved in this issue aren't an audience of interest to you.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Chairman Xavier Society for the Blind Web Site: www.xaviersocietyfortheblind.org 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: David Andrews To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] >From: "Reese" >Subject: [Blindtlk] Fw: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer >        accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > >Please circulate this message where ever you feel its appropriate. > >----- Original Message ----- > >Hello list: > >Here's the final word from Spirit Airlines regarding there inaccessible >website.  It will follow my final reply to them.  Again the US Department of >Transportation has dropped the ball on this one just like they did with the >accessible airport boarding. > >Reese > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peachtreetravel.net" >To: "Spirit Airlines" >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible >using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > >Dear Michelle: > >First I want to thank you for researching this serious matter both for me >and all of the members of my Organization.  Regretfully I'll have to inform >the 50,000 members of my organization to do business else where until Spirit >Airlines website is accessible once again.  For this is the only way to >achieve fare and equal access. > >I will check back from time to time to see if true access ever returns to >spirit Airlines and will keep my members up to date.  It has been good doing >business with you and hopefully we >can resume doing business again in the future. > >Sincerely yours, > >Maurice P Shackelford > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spirit Airlines" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:38 AM >Subject: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using >speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > > >Subject >--------------------------------------------------------------- >[Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech > > >Discussion Thread >--------------------------------------------------------------- >  (Michelle 62611) - 03/27/2012 09:38 AM >Dear Mr. Shackelford, > >Thank you for your patience as we investigated this matter thoroughly. > >We sincerely regret that you are unable to access the check box for the $9 >Fare Club membership and or the check box at the end of the booking. >However, this is not a violation of DOT's disability rule. Please be advised >that airlines are governed under the Department of Transportation and their >disability rule, 14 CFR 382, and are under no legal obligation to provide an >accessible website. We are required, under 14 CFR 382.31(c), to disclose >web-based discount fares to any prospective passenger who contacts the >carrier via other normal channels for inquiring about fares, making a >reservation, or purchasing transportation (e.g. telephone reservation line, >airport ticket counter) and states that he or she has a visual impairment >and is unable to use the website. The carrier must sell a >web-based discount fare to such a person if his or her itinerary qualifies >for the fare as it is offered on the web (e.g., same cities and dates). > >Our IT Department has reviewed your claim and they have informed me that >they changed the boxes on our booking path to styled check boxes which don't >work in the browser types you've attempted to use. The change was made >nearly a year ago and this has been the first complaint brought to their >attention on the matter. They are reviewing options to allow these types of >browsers to work with the needed functionality for our customers with visual >impairments. > >I regret that I cannot offer more information on the matter, but thank you >for bringing this to our attention. > >Please note, if you ever encounter problems when traveling with us, feel >free to ask our Spirit Airlines customer service personnel for a Complaint >Resolution Official (CRO). Our CROs have been specially trained and are >aware of applicable Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of >Transportation (DOT) disability regulations. Our CROs are available at all >airport locations and will be glad to respond to your concerns. > >We trust we have addressed you concerns in a satisfactory manner; however, >if you choose to pursue enforcement action, you have the right to contact >the Department of Transportation, in accordance with ACAA and DOT rule 14 >CFR Part 382. > >Please feel free to contact me if you ever require assistance. We know you >have a choice in air travel and are grateful you choose Spirit Airlines. > >Sincerely, > >Michelle 62611 >Disability Specialist/ >Corporate Escalation Officer >Spirit Airlines _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yahoo.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 30 18:46:12 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:46:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Investigation & Resolution Specialist job opening at the University of Washington In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EDAE530E@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EDAE530E@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Link: https://uwhires.admin.washington.edu/eng/candidates/default.cfm?szCategory=jobprofile&szOrderID=82553&szCandidateID=0&szSearchWords=&szReturnToSearch=1 Text: INVESTIGATION & RESOLUTION SPECIALIST Req #: 82553 Department: OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT Job Location: Other Locations Job Location Detail: Roosevelt Commons Posting Date: 03/25/2012 Closing Info: Open Until Filled Salary: $5312-$5917 Notes: First consideration will be given to those candidates who apply by April 11, 2012 The University of Washington (UW) is proud to be one of the nation's premier educational and research institutions. Our people are the most important asset in our pursuit of achieving excellence in education, research, and community service. Our staff not only enjoys outstanding benefits and professional growth opportunities, but also an environment noted for diversity, community involvement, intellectual excitement, artistic pursuits, and natural beauty. The Office of Risk Management protects the University from the financial impact of unintentional loss. It provides services to all University schools, colleges, and administrative units in the areas of risk financing, workers' compensation, complaint investigation and resolution, risk consulting, claims management, and strategic loss control. The University Complaint Investigation and Resolution Office ("UCIRO") is a program within the Office of Risk Management. UCIRO typically investigates allegations that the conduct of a University employee has violated the University's non-discrimination policy, including allegations of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation. A UCIRO investigation may be requested by anyone with such a concern: staff, faculty, students, or members of the public. The administrative head of a University unit also may request that UCIRO conduct an institutional investigation. In all cases, the subject of the investigation must be a University employee. Our Office of Risk Management has an outstanding opportunity for an Investigation & Resolution Specialist. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist acts as a neutral and objective fact-finder under the procedures outlined in the University of Washington's Administrative Policy Statements, Section 46.3. Allegations investigated by this position include complaints of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation, as well as complex issues arising from such complaints relating to University policy or federal and state law. Under the general direction of the UCIRO Director, the Investigation and Resolution Specialist investigates and facilitates the resolution of alleged violations of the University's non-discrimination policy and corresponding federal and state laws according to program practices, procedures, and regulations. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist is a critical part of the risk management function at the University and its Medical Centers. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist analyzes pertinent complaint and resolution information in a meaningful, constructive way and utilizes that information as appropriate with those who have a business need to know to avoid, reduce, and mitigate risk. Duties and Responsibilities: * Investigates, evaluates and advises on potential exposure of risk associated with complaints which assert violations of University of Washington policies, including non-discrimination policies and related procedures, and, if accepted, complaints of policy violations for which there are no other established administrative processes available. Authors and disseminates summary investigation reports that include factual determinations and analysis. * Investigates, evaluates and advises on potential exposure of risk associated with externally filed complaints and charges against the University of Washington, including complaints of discrimination (e.g. Title VII, ADEA, ADA, etc.), retaliation, and harassment. Conducts investigations in accordance with state and federal laws, regulations and applicable case law. Provides agencies with responses and information that complies substantively and procedurally with agency standards. Monitors agency action until file closing and assists with implementation of compliance agreements. * Participates in external agency fact-finding and mediation conferences as necessary. Prepares witnesses for interviews with administrative agencies conducting on-site investigations. * Communicates and coordinates with University departments, Human Resources representatives and Assistant Attorneys General and administrative personnel as appropriate in handling complaints and issues related thereto. * Partners with departments, Human Resources representatives and Assistant Attorneys General regarding early dispute intervention and resolution. * Leads cross-departmental resolution teams in devising, refining and implementing appropriate and creative approaches to dispute resolution, unit training, discipline and related management efforts. * Assists in developing University responses to requests for information from federal and state agencies. * Negotiates settlements within delegated authority; obtains authority in excess of delegation, as appropriate and when necessary. * Executes settlement agreements. * Maintains data consistent with data integrity standards at UCIRO and within Risk Management. As a UW employee, you will enjoy generous benefits and work/life programs. For a complete description of our benefits for this position, please visit our website, click here. Requirements: Juris Doctorate degree AND two years of experience in employment law or workplace investigations * Excellent interpersonal and communication skills * Ability to work effectively both independently and as a member of a team * Excellent writing skills * Basic word processing skills Equivalent education/experience will substitute for all minimum qualifications except when there are legal requirements, such as a license/certification/registration. Desired: * Knowledge of federal and state employment law * Experience representing employers to enforcement agencies, such as the EEOC or the Washington State Human Rights Commission * Knowledge of dispute resolution techniques * Ability to effectively and efficiently use computer systems and databases, including Windows-based software Condition of Employment: A satisfactory outcome from criminal background verification is required prior to hire. Application Process Part of the application process for this position includes completing an online cover letter assessment, as well as the Employment Eligibility Assessment to obtain additional information that will be used in the evaluation process. The assessment(s) will appear on your screen for you to complete as soon as you select "Apply to this Position" on this job announcement. Once you begin the assessment, it must be completed at that time. If you select to take it later, it will appear on your "My Jobs" page to take when you are ready. Please note that your application will not be reviewed and you will not be considered for this position until the assessment is complete. [cid:image003.png at 01CD0E69.52253EE0]The University of Washington is a leader in environmental stewardship & sustainability, and committed to becoming climate neutral. The University of Washington is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer. To request disability accommodation in the application process, contact the Disability Services Office at 206-543-6450 / 206-543-6452 (tty) or dso at uw.edu. Apply for this job -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:05 PM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] Office of Disability Employment Policy (ODEP) Seeking Deputy Washington D.C. > >Job Opportunity > >Job Title: Deputy Assistant Secretary >Department:Department Of Labor >Agency:Office of Disability Employment Policy Job Announcement >Number:DOL-SES-ODEP-12-08 SALARY RANGE: > >$119,554.00 to $179,700.00 / Per Year > >OPEN PERIOD: > >Wednesday, March 28, 2012 to Saturday, April 28, 2012 > >SERIES & GRADE: > >ES-0301-00 > >POSITION INFORMATION: > >Full-Time - Permanent > > > >DUTY LOCATIONS: > >1 vacancy(s) in the following locations: >Washington, DC, USView >Map > >WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: > >Open to all groups of qualified candidates. SES Candidate Development >Program graduates with noncompetitive eligibility may apply for >noncompetitive consideration for this position. > >JOB SUMMARY: >Opportunities are Open! Begin a challenging career with the U.S. >Department of Labor (DOL), and you will help shape the workforce of >tomorrow. DOL offers rewarding opportunities to contribute to a noble >mission; to serve and protect American workers, prepare them for new >and better jobs, and to ensure the safety and fairness of American >workplaces. >The Office of Disability Employment Policy (ODEP) is responsible for >creating and implementing national policy, and providing information >that improves employment opportunities for people with disabilities. >ODEP's Assistant Secretary directs the overall organization and is the >principal advisor to the Secretary of Labor on all disability >employment policy. >KEY REQUIREMENTS > > > * Subject to a security background investigation. > * Subject to financial disclosure requirements. > * Must complete 1 year SES probationary period, if not > previously completed. > * Subject to drug test prior to and during appointment. > >________________________________ >DUTIES: >Back to >top >The Deputy Assistant Secretary serves as the principal advisor to the >Assistant Secretary of the Office of Disability Employment Policy >(ODEP),on issues and policies related to ODEP's mission, and provides >general operational management of the organization through coordination >of the agency's administrative, budget, and policy-making activities. >In addition, the incumbent is also responsible, but not limited to, the >following duties and >responsibilities: provides executive leadership to ensure the >coordination and development of cross-cutting policies and effective >practices to improve employment opportunities for people with >disabilities; participates with the Assistant Secretary and other key >Government, Department of Labor (DOL), and ODEP officials in >formulating and developing policies, objectives, strategic plans, >budgets, and goals to ensure the agency provides national leadership to >increase employment opportunities for people with disabilities; >coordinates disability-related policies, programs and activities of >ODEP with related Federal programs (including the Access Board; the >Committee for Purchase from People who are Blind or Severely Disabled; >Departments of Education, Health and Human Services, Transportation, >and Veterans Affairs; the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission; the >National Council on Disability; the Office of Personnel Management; and >the Social Security Administration.); and promotes the implementation >and adoption of policies and effective practices that encourages the >full inclusion of people with disabilities in the American workforce by >engaging and collaborating with stakeholders in both the public and >private sectors. >________________________________ >QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: >Back to >top >Candidates must possess technical and management experience and have >developed the knowledge and skills required for effective performance >of the specific duties of the position. Candidates must have had >experience at a major management level (normally equivalent to the >GS-15 level in the federal service). All applicants MUST separately >address each of the Mandatory Technical Qualifications >(MTQs) and Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) when applying on line. >Responses to ECQs MUST not exceed 10 pages. For additional guidance, >applicants may visit the Office Of Personnel Management's Guide to >Senior Executive Service Qualifications located at >www.opm.gov/ses/references/GuidetoSESQuals_2010.pdf. Applicants are >encouraged to follow the Challenge, Context, Action, and Result model >outlined in the guide. Current/Former Career SES or SES Candidate >Development Program graduates who have been certified by OPM MUST >address the MTQ's, but need not address the ECQs. In order to >successfully complete the online application process you MUST input the >term, "noncompetitive eligible" in the text boxes for each of the ECQs. >You MUST submit a Standard Form 50 that documents your SES Career >appointment or a copy of your OPM approved SES Candidate Development >Program certificate. >EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS (ECQs): 1. Leading Change: This core >qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, >both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals. >Inherent to this ECQ is the ability to establish an organizational >vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment. 2. >Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead >people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals. >Inherent to this ECQ is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace >that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and >teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts. 3. Results >Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet >organizational goals and customer expectations. Inherent to this ECQ is >the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by >applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating >risks. 4. Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability >to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically. 5. >Building Coalitions: >This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions >internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local >governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign >governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals. >MANDATORY TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS (MTQs): In addition to the ECQs above, >qualified applicants must possess the following four (4) technical >qualifications which represent the experience required to perform the >duties of this position. Proficiency in these technical qualifications >MUST be clearly evident in your resume. MTQs include: >1. Demonstrated knowledge and experience in management of an >organization, including human resources, budget, procurement, and >internal control matters. 2. Strong experience leading the analysis of >highly technical, complex and sensitive disability employment policy >issues, as well as implementing programs, initiatives or strategies >resulting from this analysis. 3. Demonstrated skill in communications >at high levels in an organization, and experience in obtaining support >for projects and program opportunities for people with disabilities. 4. >Expert knowledge of legislative, political, economic and civil rights >issues impacting people with disabilities. > >The Department of Labor does not recognize academic degrees from >schools that are not accredited by an accrediting institution >recognized by the Department of Education. Any applicant falsely >claiming an academic degree from an accredited school will be subject >to actions ranging from disqualification from federal employment to >removal from federal service. > >HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED: >Candidates will be evaluated based upon their qualifications. In >addition, applicants will be evaluated based upon their responses to >the Mandatory Technical Qualifications (MTQs) and Executive Core >Qualifications (ECQs). >To preview questions please click >here. >________________________________ >BENEFITS: >Back to >top >The Department of Labor (DOL) offers a great benefit package to >eligible employees. The benefit package includes but is not limited to >health benefits, supplemental dental and vision plans, and flexible >spending accounts. We offer a variety of employee benefit options, a >family-friendly work environment, transit subsidy program, career >assistance program, health services and fitness programs, access to >LifeCare, a resource and referral service and more. Members of the >Senior Executive Service accrue eight (8) hours of annual leave and >four (4) hours of sick leave per pay period. For a comprehensive site >about all federal benefits, please refer to >OPM. >For specific DOL benefits information, please refer to DOL >BENEFITS. >OTHER INFORMATION: >________________________________ >HOW TO APPLY: >Back to >top >Follow the 5 steps below to apply online to a Department of Labor >(DOL) vacancy. Your application and ALL required supplemental documents >must be received by 11:59 pm Eastern Time (ET) on the vacancy closing >date to be considered. Paper applications and supplemental documents >submitted in any other manner without prior approval from the vacancy >contact will not be considered. For more details, reference How To >Apply Detailed >Instructions. >For help, refer to the Vacancy Contact on the announcement in the >"Questions about this job" section. Save your information before the >60 MINUTE TIMEOUT or risk losing your information! STEP 1 - Create >USAJOBS Account, including Resume and Saved Documents It is essential >that your application provide sufficient information to substantiate >your responses to the MTQs and ECQs listed in the vacancy announcement. >STEP 2 - Answer Vacancy Questions (DOORS) Click the Apply Online >button, which is available when you search for a job on >www.usajobs.gov, click on the title and proceed. STEP 3 >- Submit Supplemental Documents Submit the required documents (only if >applicable to you) specified in the "Required Documents" section of >this vacancy. For details: click How to Submit Supplemental >Documentation. >If you submit a document using the same document title, the 2nd >submission will OVERWRITE the 1st submission. To avoid this, submit >documents (ex. undergraduate and graduate degree transcripts) as one >document. STEP 4 - Review Application and click Finish STEP 5 - Edit >Application as needed by 11:59 pm ET of Close Date REQUIRED DOCUMENTS: >1. SF-50 documentation of career SES appointment or other Federal >appointment (if applicable) 2. Certificate of completion of OPM >certified SES candidate program (if applicable) 3. Copy of most recent >performance appraisal (optional) AGENCY CONTACT INFO: >Michelle Hudson >Phone: 202-693-7800 >Fax: 202-693-7705 >TDD: 202-693-7758 >Email: hudson.michelle.j at dol.gov >Agency Information: >Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy >200 Constitution Ave., NW >N-2453 >Washington, DC >20210 >US >Fax: 202-693-7705 >WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT: >The Office of Executive Resources will review all applications to >determine if applicants meet the mandatory technical qualifications of >this position and the SES ECQs. Those who meet the qualifications will >be referred to a panel of SES members for rating and ranking to >determine the "best qualified" candidates. The panel will make a >recommendation to the selecting official about the top candidates that >he/she should interview. Once a selection is made, the selectee's >application will be forwarded to the Office of Personnel Management >(OPM) for approval by an OPM independent Qualifications Review Board, >unless the selectee is a current SES executive or has successfully >participated in an OPM approved SES Candidate Development Program. To >check the status of your application: Click >here. >To sign up for Application Status Updates via email: Click >Here. _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From bspiry at comcast.net Sat Mar 31 07:41:08 2012 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:41:08 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02dd01cd0f11$a348a480$e9d9ed80$@comcast.net> Apples BT keyboard works very well with the iPhone and the iPad. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:56 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notetakers I have a really difficult time typing On the I devices. Does anyone have any suggestions Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:17 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notetakers Hello John, Though there's always a fair bit of subjectivity to such an evaluation, you seem to have struck upon some of the same points that have restrained me from making the leap to using an iPhone or iPad in court situations. I really like the accessibility features of IS devices, but I still find the Apex's combination of Braille and a hardware keyboard to be the most elegant solution at present. Apex support of USB drives and SDHC cards also make it really simple to transfer documents from remote storage, so you can treat it just like any other computer. They may not weigh much alone, but an iPad, Braille display and keyboard add up to far more than the Apex, require independent charging and are dependent on all components to work. And while far from perfect, the Apex keyboard feels luxurious compared to a virtual equivalent. That's just my opinion and there's nothing to say it won't change tomorrow, but that's how i see it for now. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:45, John Gardner wrote: > So guys I think I have gotten enough information on what notetakers you guys use. I think I will go with the Braillenote apex. Here are my reasons. The I devices are in too parts. It's the device and the Braille display. I need something that is one unit. Also the apex turns on faster and I like that. The idevices are not as efficient either and I can't have that. Also a notetaker would be less to carry and keep track of. It's also not very heavy as a iPad and Braille display would be. Are these bad reasons? What do you guys think? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et From thebluesisloose at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 07:48:19 2012 From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:48:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Notetakers Message-ID: <4f76b6f7.a7203c0a.29a9.335c@mx.google.com> I have a Qwerty keyboard straight from the apple store that works well on my iPod. Forget the phone, it's really expensive! lol Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Spiry" wrote: So guys I think I have gotten enough information on what notetakers you guys use. I think I will go with the Braillenote apex. Here are my reasons. The I devices are in too parts. It's the device and the Braille display. I need something that is one unit. Also the apex turns on faster and I like that. The idevices are not as efficient either and I can't have that. Also a notetaker would be less to carry and keep track of. It's also not very heavy as a iPad and Braille display would be. Are these bad reasons? What do you guys think? Thanks _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolen tino%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40s bgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry% 40comcast.n et _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/thebluesisl oose%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 1 21:41:50 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:41:50 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: SEC Job announcements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: SEC Job announcements All, The followings are job announcements with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). They are high level with a very short window. Please share this information with your respective networks. Individuals interested should follow the instructions on how to apply in the links provided. Thank you. Job Title: Assistant Director for Operations (Business Manager) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #:12-610968-MP-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/28/2012 to 03/06/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310595000 Job Title: Supervisory Attorney (Assistant Director, Employment Practices) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #: 12-612460-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/29/2012 to 03/07/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310594800 Job Title: Supervisory Human Resources Specialist (Assistant Director, Staff Acquisition) Pay Plan: SK-0905/17 Vacancy Ann #:12-610709-MP-JF Opening/Closing Date: 2/28/2012 to 03/06/2012 USAJOBS URL: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310595200 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 2 21:50:56 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 15:50:56 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] VACANCY: Department of the Air Force Seeks Disability Program Manager (GS-14) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: FW: VACANCY: Department of the Air Force Seeks Disability Program Manager (GS-14) Importance: High fyi ________________________________ Colleagues, The Department of the Air Force is seeking a Disability Program Manager at the GS-14 level. Please pay close attention to the area of consideration - if you are non-DoD, you must fall into at least one of the remaining categories: Veteran with a 30% or greater disability rating, Schedule A eligible candidate, or eligible for placement through ICTAP. This is a unique opportunity. The incumbent will manage the Department of the Air Force's Disability Program and work closely with me and my colleagues in Diversity Management & Equal Opportunity, Office of the Secretary of Defense, to assist in the development of DoD-wide policy to support implementation of Executive Order 13548, as well as other disability initiatives impacting the DoD civilian workforce of over 700,000 employees, and 3,000,000 active duty military and reserves. The incumbent will primarily perform their duties from the Pentagon, which is very accessible to mass transit. The vacancy announcement is available at http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310758100?share=email. The application deadline is Wednesday, March 07, 2012. As indicated in the vacancy announcement, questions should be directed to Donna W. Barr, Department of the Air Force, Phone: (202)404-3229, TDD: 800-382-0893, Email: DONNA.BARR at AFNCR.AF.MIL. Please disseminate throughout your respective networks. Respectfully, Stephen M. King Director, Disability Programs Co-Director, Workforce Recruitment Program (WRP) Diversity Management & Equal Opportunity Office of the Secretary of Defense 4000 Defense Pentagon, Room 5D641 Washington, D.C. 20301-4000 (703) 571-9327 stephen.king at osd.mil From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Mar 5 17:26:06 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:26:06 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007401ccfaf5$0e040de0$2a0c29a0$@labarrelaw.com> From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 9:14 AM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Current Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Deputy Chief, Litigation Unit, GS-905-15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Narcotic and Dangerous Drug Section Washington, D.C. 12-CRM-NDDS-039 This announcement is open for 45 days. This position closes at midnight on April 16, 2012, Eastern Standard Time. Date posted: 03-02-2012 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-905-13/14/15 Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section Criminal Division U.S. Department of Justice Washington, D.C. 12-CR-CCIPS-037 Applications must be received by CCIPS by March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Detention Center Houston, Texas Senior Attorney Advisor GS-905-12/13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California 12-EDCA-18A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-02-2012 Special Assistant United States Attorney Vacancy United States Attorney's Office - Northern District of Iowa Office of the Linn County Attorney Announcement Number: 2012-SAUSA-NDIA-02 Hand-carried applications must be received by 5:00 pm CST on Friday, March 16, 2012; mailed applications must be postmarked by Friday, March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) Criminal Division, Misdemeanor Unit Sacramento, California 12-EDCA-18A Applications should be postmarked no later than Friday, March 23, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office District of South Dakota 12-SD-AUSA-Crim-004 Applications must be received by March 15, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Assistant United States Attorney U.S. Attorney's Office Eastern District of Texas Vacancy Announcement No.: 12-EDTX-611761-AUSA-02 The deadline to apply is Wednesday, March 14, 2012. Date posted: 03-01-2012 Attorney Advisor, GS-905-14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development Assistance and Training Section Resident Legal Advisor in Bangladesh 12-CR-OPDAT-040 Applications will be accepted until this position is filled. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Middle District of Alabama Term Appointment not to Exceed 14 Months Announcement No: 12-MDAL-05 Applications must be received by 5:00 p.m. CST on March 14, 2012. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney (Two Year Term Appointment) United States Attorney's Office Honorable Joyce White Vance Northern District of Alabama Vacancy Announcement Number 12-NDAL-04 Applications must be postmarked by the closing date of the announcement or March 13, 2012. Date posted: 02-29-2012 Assistant United States Attorney (CIVIL) United States Attorney's Office District of Maryland Northern (Baltimore) Division 14 Month Term Appointment Announcement Number: 12-MD-06 This announcement will close on March 20, 2012; therefore, resumes, cover letters and transcripts must be e-mailed or received by the closing date. Date posted: 02-28-2012 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Mar 5 19:29:21 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:29:21 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: US DOT - General Attorney (1), FV-0905-G/H, Renton, WA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/310746700 Job Title:General Attorney Department:Department Of Transportation Agency:Federal Aviation Administration Job Announcement Number:ANM-RC-12-0122397-24223 SALARY RANGE: $49,820.00 to $94,403.00 / Per Year OPEN PERIOD: Thursday, March 01, 2012 to Thursday, March 22, 2012 SERIES & GRADE: FV-0905-G/H POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time - Permanent DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy(s) - Renton WAView Map WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: U.S. Citizens - This announcement is open to all U.S. Citizens JOB SUMMARY: The Next Generation of Flight is Underway - and you can be part of it! We need you and your fresh ideas to shape the air transportation system of tomorrow, and the way America flies. Come be a part of the new generation in aviation, an industry that is absolutely critical to this nation's economy and security. The Next Generation Air Transportation System (NextGen) is a fundamental transformation of our nation's airspace system. It uses 21st century technologies to meet future demands, avoid gridlock in the sky and on the runways, further improve safety, and protect the environment. For more information on NextGen, watch this brief introduction : NextGen Introduction About the FAA Employment Information Business Component: Northwest Mountain Region, Office of the Regional Counsel. Sample of Duties: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of the Regional Counsel, Northwest Mountain Region, supports the FAA's mission by furnishing timely and respons... (see Duties tab for more duties) The salary range above includes a 21.81% locality rate. No Permanent Change of Station (PCS) payments are authorized. KEY REQUIREMENTS * U.S. Citizen ________________________________ DUTIES: Back to top The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of the Regional Counsel, Northwest Mountain Region, supports the FAA's mission by furnishing timely and responsive legal services to the Regional Administrator and all FAA organizations within the Northwest Mountain Region. The incumbent will handle matters related to enforcement and compliance with the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs), personnel and labor law, litigation, general legal services, environmental reviews, procurement and contract disputes, real estate, and ethics. Attorneys represent the Agency before a variety of administrative forums, including the National Transportation Safety Board, Department of Transportation, U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and FAA Office of Dispute Resolutions. The G pay band is considered developmental and requires less responsibility and more supervision. Identification of promotion in the vacancy announcement does not constitute a commitment or an obligation on the part of management to promote the employee selected at some future date. Promotion will depend upon the selectee meeting training, qualification requirements, and recommendation by the supervisor. ________________________________ QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: Back to top To qualify for this position at the FV-G or FG/GS-11 grade level you must have a JD Degree from an accredited law school, be admitted to practice before the bar of any U.S. jurisdiction, and be an active member of that bar. To qualify for this position at the FV-H or FG/GS-12 level you must meet the FV-G qualifications described above and you must demonstrate in your application that you possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the FV-G or FG/GS-11 grade level in the Federal Service. Specialized experience is experience that has equipped you with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of the position. Specialized experience would include: a. Applies relevant experience and legal knowledge to assignments that have relatively simple legal questions or factual situations and clearly applicable precedents. b. Performs basic legal research and writing assignments under the guidance and close direction of a higher level attorney. c. Experience with and demonstrated skill in the application of relatively clear and specific legal principles, precedents, and ruling. d. Basic skill in case management. The following may substitute for specialized experience at the next lower level to qualify for the FV-H grade level: a. An L.L.M. degree in a related practice area b. Minimum of two years attorney experience in a law firm, corporate legal office, non-profit legal office, non-federal governmental legal office or similar entity. ***This position has a positive education requirement. A copy of your final law school transcripts must accompany your application if you have never held a position as an Attorney with the FAA.*** Foreign education must be evaluated by a private professional organization specializing in interpretation of foreign education credentials or an accredited U.S. educational institution in terms of equivalency to a degree acquired at an American college or university. A copy of the evaluation results must be included in your application package. If you do not include a copy of the evaluation as part of your application package, your foreign education will not be considered. Qualifications must be met by the closing date of the vacancy announcement. Applicants should include examples of their specialized experience in their work history. U.S. Citizen HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED: Applicants may be rated on the extent and quality of experience, education, and training relevant to the duties of the position(s). All answers provided in the on-line process must be substantiated. Knowledge, Skills and Abilities (KSA) 1. Ability to prepare clear and concise reports or documentation that accurately states critical issues, facts, and events. 2. Ability to prioritize, plan, organize and complete multiple work assignments concurrently. 3. Ability to work with a team of individuals consisting of professional, scientific, technical and administrative staff, coordinating work activities, coaching, and resolving problems. 4. Ability to perform computerized research and proficiency with the use of Microsoft Word. Technical Requirements 1. Are you admitted to practice before the bar of any U.S. jurisdiction, and are you an active member of that bar? If so please provide your bar association number(s) and the state bar association's address, phone number, and email (if any) for verification of membership and standing. ________________________________ BENEFITS: Back to top FAA offers an excellent comprehensive benefits programs. To learn more about the federal government benefits, please click here. OTHER INFORMATION: We may use this vacancy to fill other similar vacant positions. Travel may be required. Position may be subject to a background investigation. A one-year probationary period may be required. As a condition of employment, male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must certify that they have registered with the Selective Service System, or are exempt from having to do so under the Selective Service Law. Direct deposit of pay is required. Applicants must apply on-line to receive consideration for this vacancy announcement. Faxed, mailed or e-mailed applications cannot be accepted. Only supplemental documentation, e.g. transcripts or veteran's documentation, will be accepted in combination with your online application. Supplemental documentation can be faxed to 425-227-2199, please include your name and the vacancy announcement number on all faxed documents. Please ensure you answer all questions and follow all instructions carefully. Errors or omissions may impact your rating or may result in you not being considered for the job. As a part of the Federal-Wide Hiring Reform Initiative (streamlining the hiring process), the FAA is committed to eliminating the use of the Knowledge, Skills and Ability (KSA) narratives from the initial application in the hiring process for all external announcements. Therefore, as an applicant for this external announcement, you are NOT required to provide a narrative response in the text box listed below each KSA. In lieu of providing a KSA narrative response in the text box listed below each KSA, in your work history, please include work history that describes how you meet the answer you chose for each KSA. Your work history examples should be specific and clearly reflect the highest level of ability. Your KSA answers will be evaluated further to validate whether the level that you selected is appropriate. Your answers may be adjusted as appropriate. Eligible applicants meeting the minimum qualification requirements and selective factor(s), if applicable, may be further evaluated on the Knowledge, Skills and Abilities (KSA) listed in the announcement. Based on this evaluation, applicants will be placed in one of the following categories: score order, category grouping, or alphabetical and referred to the selecting official for consideration. FAA organizations may offer enhanced annual leave accrual to newly appointed or reappointed employees. In order to receive consideration for such a benefit, applicants' prior non-Federal service or active duty uniformed service must directly relate to the duties of the position to which appointed. Granting enhanced annual leave is at the sole discretion of the hiring organization, and granting such benefit is not an entitlement nor guaranteed to any newly hired employee. Some, none, or all of the candidates may be interviewed. This is not a bargaining unit position. Links to Important Information: Locality Pay, COLA, Citizenship, Financial Disclosure ________________________________ HOW TO APPLY: Back to top You must apply online to receive consideration. Your application must have a status of "Submitted" by 11:59 PM Central Time on the Close Date for it to be accepted. If you are applying for positions associated with FAA registers, your application must have a status of "Submitted" each time a referral list is created in order to receive consideration for positions associated with register. REQUIRED DOCUMENTS: You must submit proof of veterans preference (DD-214, and, if claiming 10-point preference, SF-15 plus proof required by that form) as requested by the Human Resource Office. Veterans Preference will only be considered based on what is supported. If you fail to provide the required documents within the stated time period, the Human Resource office may withdraw a job offer and/or remove you from further consideration. **For General Attorney, FV-0905-G/H positions, veterans' preference does not apply, therefore, submission of a DD-214 or other veterans' preference documentation is only needed if appointed.** You will be required to provide proof of U.S. Citizenship. Education Requirement: This position has a positive education requirement. A copy of your final law school transcript must accompany your application if you have never held a position as an Attorney with the FAA. Supplemental documentation can be faxed to 425-227-2199, please include your name and the vacancy announcement number on all faxed documents. Foreign Education: Foreign education must be evaluated by a private professional organization specializing in interpretation of foreign education credentials or an accredited U.S. educational institution in terms of equivalency to a degree acquired at an American college or university. A copy of the evaluation results must be included in your application package. If you do not include a copy of the evaluation as part of your application package, your foreign education will not be considered. AGENCY CONTACT INFO: Office of Human Resource Phone: (425) 227-2691 Fax: (425) 227-2199 Email: danielle.hellner at faa.gov Agency Information: Northwest Mountain Region 1601 Lind Ave SW ANM-14 Renton, WA 98057 US Fax: (425) 227-2199 WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT: Candidates for FAA positions are evaluated using our Automated Vacancy Information Access Tool for Online Referral (AVIATOR) system. AVIATOR compares your skills and experience as described in your application with the requirements of the position. If you are found to be an eligible, highly-qualified candidate, you will be referred to the selecting official for further consideration. (In some cases, individuals with priority for special consideration must be considered and selected before other candidates.) Whether or not you are contacted for an interview depends upon the location of the position and the judgment of the selecting official. You can check the status of your application by accessing AVIATOR and selecting the "My Applications" tab. Simply click on the "Status" link in the "Status" column to see whether a list has been sent to the selecting official and if you were included on the list. You can return to your application at any time to review your answers, and until the announcement closes you can change your application. Important - If you make any change to your application, you must resubmit it. If you change your application and do not resubmit it, your changes will not be considered part of your application package, and your previous application will be considered. < Back to ResultsBack to top EEO Policy Statement | Reasonable Accommodation Policy Statement | Veterans Information | Legal and Regulatory Guidance From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Mon Mar 5 19:33:59 2012 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:33:59 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Positive story on me Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E8BB067@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Hi all, Not to blow my own horn, but positive press on one blind law student makes others wish to try. There are some factual errors, but not many. http://issuu.com/stmarysu/docs/goldblue_spring2012/21 Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX 78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760 fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From LBlake at nfb.org Tue Mar 6 13:35:34 2012 From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:35:34 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Message-ID: Eve Hill, Senior Counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez, Will Keynote at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Identity in the Disability Rights Movement April 19-20, 2012 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Eve Hill, senior counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez at the United States Department of Justice, will be one of two keynote speakers at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium. The symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as: judicial perspectives on the presentation of disability cases, how to influence jurors' perception of disability, the impact of the ADA Amendments Act on employment cases, the role of identity in the disability rights movement, and disability discrimination in health care.. 2012 plenary session presenters: * Adrienne Asch, Edward and Robin Milstein Professor of Bioethics, Yeshiva University * David Ball, jury consultant, Miller Malekpour & Ball * Richard S. Brown, Chief Judge, Wisconsin Court of Appeals * Brian East, senior attorney, Disability Rights Texas * Katie Eyer, Research Scholar and Lecturer in Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School * Donovan W. Frank, U.S. District Judge, District of Minnesota * Arlene S. Kanter, Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor for Teaching Excellence and Professor of Law, Syracuse University College of Law * Peggy R. Mastroianni, legal counsel, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Jane Perkins, legal director, National Health Law Program * Francis A. Polito, Chief Administrative Judge, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Silvia Yee, senior staff attorney, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund 2012 workshop facilitators: * Michael Allen, partner, Relman, Dane & Colfax * Robert Ardinger, president, Ardinger Consultants and Associates * Charles Brown, director, Volunteer Lawyers for the Blind, American Action Fund for Blind Children and Adults * Michael Bullis, parent * Matthew W. Dietz, principal, Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. * Brian Dimmick, staff attorney, American Diabetes Association * Senator Lisa A. Gladden, Maryland General Assembly * Daniel F. Goldstein, partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Judith A. Gran, partner, Reisman Carolla Gran LLP * Katy Kaplan, assistant director, Temple University Collaborative on Community Inclusion of People with Psychiatric Disabilities * Scott C. LaBarre, principal, LaBarre Law Offices, PC * William J. Phelan, IV, partner, The Gowen Group Law Office PLLC * Howard A. Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer, National Association of the Deaf * Jackie Simon, member, Equal Rights Center Board of Directors; broker/owner, Jackie Simon Homes, LLC * Joyce Walker-Jones, senior attorney advisor, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 Student registration fee: $25 A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need. To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp. You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax. Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Law Symposium Coordinator Jernigan Institute NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 E-mail: lblake at nfb.org From dandrews at visi.com Wed Mar 7 05:32:06 2012 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 23:32:06 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Florida State University Resolves Litigation with Students Message-ID: > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > >CONTACT: > >Chris Danielsen > >Director of Public Relations > >National Federation of the Blind > >(410) 659-9314, extension 2330 > >(410) 262-1281 (Cell) > >cdanielsen at nfb.org > > > >Jeffery Seay > >University Communications > >Florida State University > >(850) 644-0277 > >jseay at admin.fsu.edu > > > > >Florida State University Resolves Litigation with Students > > > > > >National Federation of the Blind Praises Comprehensive Settlement Agreement > > > > > >Tallahassee, Florida (March 6, 2012): Florida >State University and two students who are >blind­Christopher Shane Toth and Jamie Ann >Principato­have resolved a >lawsuit >brought by the two students with the assistance >of the National Federation of the Blind last summer. > > > >The students claimed that they experienced >discrimination in violation of state and federal >disability laws, including failure to reasonably >accommodate their disability and lack of >accessible technology. As a result, they >claimed, they were unable to complete courses >related to their academic majors. > > > >Without admitting liability or wrongdoing, the >university has agreed to pay each of the >students $75,000 in settlement of their claims >and to continue its efforts to make courses >accessible to all students. Specifically, the >university will examine technology-based >instructional materials currently in use for >accessibility compliance, and ensure >accessibility in future software and hardware procurements. > > > >“We are extremely pleased with this settlement >agreement, which will benefit all current and >future blind students at Florida State,” said >Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the National >Federation of the Blind. “We commend the >university for showing leadership and commitment >to treating students with disabilities equally >and hope that other institutions of higher >learning will follow the example set by Florida State.” > > > >“I am greatly relieved and pleased that this >litigation has been resolved and look forward to >continuing my academic career at Florida State >on an equal basis with my sighted peers,” Principato said. > > > >“We are committed to the success of all of our >students, including those with disabilities,” >said Garnett S. Stokes, provost and executive >vice president for academic affairs at Florida >State. “We will continue our efforts to make >our institution a welcoming and rewarding >environment for students with disabilities.” > >The plaintiffs are represented in this matter by >Daniel F. Goldstein, Sharon Krevor-Weisbaum, and >Brooke E. Lierman of the Baltimore firm Brown, >Goldstein, and Levy; and Matthew Dietz of the >Miami firm Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. > >### > > > >About the National Federation of the Blind > >With more than 50,000 members, the National >Federation of the Blind is the largest and most >influential membership organization of blind >people in the United States. The NFB improves >blind people’s lives through advocacy, >education, research, technology, and programs >encouraging independence and self-confidence. It >is the leading force in the blindness field >today and the voice of the nation's blind. In >January 2004 the NFB opened the National >Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the >first research and training center in the United >States for the blind led by the blind. From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:07:38 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:07:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <621725.370810.1331132858706.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To my dismay, I have just learned that I have to write the Washington state bar examination after a lengthy hiatus from the practice of law. If I want to use the computer, I have to use exam soft From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:07:37 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <24211811.361485.1331132857320.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To my dismay, I have just learned that I have to write the Washington state bar examination after a lengthy hiatus from the practice of law. If I want to use the computer, I have to use exam soft From emrene at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 15:21:34 2012 From: emrene at earthlink.net (emrene at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:21:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [blindlaw] ExamSoft SofTest accessibility Message-ID: <27981124.370817.1331133694450.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net> (trying (Trying again) To my dismay, I have just learned(Trying again) To my dismay, I have just learned that I must write the Washington state bar that I must write the Washington state bar again) From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 02:26:52 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:26:52 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Message-ID: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 02:40:16 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:40:16 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> Hello Andrew, Have you considered the iPod Touch or other Apple iOS devices? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:26 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 9 02:44:05 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:44:05 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> Hello, If you are thinking of the victor reader stream, you may also want to look at the booksense xt from hims, which supports bluetooth (hims inc) or bookport plus which supports wireless and internet radio from APH. Otherwise, you may be talking about the ipod touch or even an iphone. On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:31:24 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:31:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <82A5F885-436B-4FB0-B8ED-6B98000D0AF7@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <009c01ccfda5$1c82ff40$5588fdc0$@com> Thanks Denise. I will be looking into these. I guess I'm not as familiar with the Apple products as I need to be. Hope things are well with you. I follow the goings on via IL-Talk, and look forward to getting back to Chicago after I'm done here at BLIND, Inc. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:44 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello, If you are thinking of the victor reader stream, you may also want to look at the booksense xt from hims, which supports bluetooth (hims inc) or bookport plus which supports wireless and internet radio from APH. Otherwise, you may be talking about the ipod touch or even an iphone. On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40amerit > ech.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:33:37 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:33:37 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <6C45D992-0211-425A-A75E-9041846F456B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009d01ccfda5$6b9e9d50$42dbd7f0$@com> Aser, Thanks for your response. I do need to look further into the Apple products. A couple other people wrote back with the same suggestion. Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:40 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello Andrew, Have you considered the iPod Touch or other Apple iOS devices? Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:26 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From rfarber at jw.com Fri Mar 9 03:52:38 2012 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:52:38 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 04:10:19 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:10:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Randy, Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book Sense. I will look into it. Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:51:06 2012 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 08:51:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: I'd still say that a small laptop is: 1 ONly slightly less portable and 2 so much more powerful! You can do everything on it. G On 3/9/12, Andrew Webb wrote: > Randy, > > Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book > Sense. I will look into it. > > Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > > Regards, > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Farber, Randy > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Andrew > > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more > expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device > that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm > envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about > anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting > at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to > download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents > in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my > downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to > highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention > that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if > there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 12:50:38 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are worth learning. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Randy, Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book Sense. I will look into it. Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Andrew I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello all, I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. Many thanks in advance! Regards Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Mar 9 16:05:17 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:05:17 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 16:24:16 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:24:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books in epub format, but not protected formats. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould . >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 9 16:52:10 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:52:10 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Victories in Our Ongoing Saga with the National Conference of Bar Examiners, Braille Monitor, February 2012 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EC8D8A17@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EC8D8A17@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: I want to call your attention to the article by Scott LaBarre, the president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, in this month's issue of the Braille Monitor, which is linked and pasted below. Noel Link: http://www.nfb.org/search/node/national%20conference%20of%20bar%20examiners Text: Victories in Our Ongoing Saga with the National Conference of Bar Examiners by Scott C. LaBarre >From the Editor: Scott LaBarre is president of the National Federation of the Blind of Colorado and the National Association of Blind Lawyers. He is a practicing lawyer in Denver who coordinates many of the legal cases we take on. An active litigator, he knows a lot about the law and is capable of putting the victories we achieve into English so that we can all appreciate and benefit from them. Here is what Scott has to say about technology and high-stakes testing: The year is now 2012, and the Congress passed into law the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) nearly twenty-two years ago. This landmark legislation declared boldly that discrimination on the basis of disability was strictly prohibited. The Act carried this mandate to all manner of entities from public facilities like restaurants and hotels to employers large and small. Section 309 of the ADA directs testing agencies to ensure that their examinations are administered in a non-discriminatory manner. Congress charged the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) with promulgating regulations to enforce this part of the Act. The relevant DOJ regulation states that a testing agency offering an exam must assure that "the examination is selected and administered so as to best ensure that, when the examination is administered to an individual with a disability that impairs sensory, manual, or speaking skills, the examination results accurately reflect the individual's aptitude or achievement level or whatever other factor the examination purports to measure, rather than reflecting the individual's impaired sensory, manual, or speaking skills." As most people know, the ADA requires covered entities to provide accommodations for an individual's disability so that whatever good, service, or employment is offered is accessible to the individual with a disability. Therefore it is no surprise that a testing agency is required to provide accommodations. With such clear direction from Congress and DOJ, refusal of a testing agency to provide accommodations should be a thing of the distant past. But, as we learned when we were children, it is never safe to make assumptions. I graduated from the University of Minnesota Law School in 1993. At that time assistive technology was far more limited than it is now. Although I used Artic Vision to create DOS-based WordPerfect documents and conduct rudimentary legal research using a modem and a slow dial-up service, I certainly did not have access to electronic texts and other legal material digitally. So I employed other techniques like live readers and law books on cassette from Recordings for the Blind (now Learning Ally) and Minnesota State Services for the Blind. When I took the bar exam, I used a person to read the text and a typewriter to produce the essay portions of the exam. The world of the twenty-first century law student is far different. Every book now begins as an electronic file. Students can get every textbook and other material in an electronic format. As a result a blind law student can use screen-reading software to read the required material, and every blind law student I know either relies heavily on assistive technology or uses electronic texts exclusively. My own law practice has changed dramatically over the years. When I first hung out my shingle, I relied extensively on human readers. Today I use my chief legal assistant to read some short passages from faxes or print mail that come into the office, but, if I have long documents, I either have immediate electronic access to them or have my legal assistant turn paper documents into electronic text. Generally speaking, the legal profession has gone almost completely digital. Most courts in the land now require that documents of any type be filed in an electronic format. I can read much faster and control my place in the text much more efficiently using my JAWS (Job Access with Speech) screen reader. In some ways I have become more effective because I can process material more quickly than I could previously and can assign my assistant to take care of a variety of tasks demanded by the cases coming through my office. Ultimately every blind lawyer or blind person has to select from the arsenal of alternative techniques that allows him or her to get the job done. In fact the ADA recognizes this individuality and calls upon covered entities to evaluate reasonable accommodations case by case. The concept of making accommodations for a person's disability has been around for decades, and it is the law of the land. As lawyers and as a legal profession, we are supposed to have a heightened awareness of the law, even if the specific area at issue is not an individual lawyer's specialty. We would expect testing agencies that work regularly and frequently with test takers with disabilities to be particularly mindful and aware of their obligations under the law to provide accommodations. Logically we could expect a testing agency that offers licensing exams in the legal profession to be acutely aware of its obligations and ready to comply with the dictates of the law. Imagine my surprise when the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) refused to provide the accommodation most frequently used by law students. NCBE offers a number of examinations, but, most important, it offers the Multistate Bar Examination (MBE) and Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination (MPRE). The MBE is a two-hundred-question multiple-choice exam testing several areas of the law, and it is used in something like forty-eight jurisdictions in the country. The MPRE is a much shorter multiple choice exam that tests the applicant's knowledge of the ethical rules governing the practice of law. In just about every state a person has to pass both of these exams, along with some other essay exams, to become licensed. For an aspiring lawyer the MBE and MPRE are mandatory in almost every state, and these examinations are difficult enough that it is hard to achieve passing scores. This means that a blind applicant's most familiar and strongest alternative technique must be employed to give the blind test taker the best shot at passing these difficult exams. As I mentioned previously, the vast majority of blind law students today use various screen readers to access their law school materials and take their exams. It is not difficult to understand why blind bar applicants coming out of law school today wish to take the MBE and MPRE using assistive technology. Using a screen reader permits the blind test taker to move quickly through the text and go back and forth with ease to reread various passages, an ability necessary in the bar examination. In 2009 Stephanie Enyart contacted me and told me that NCBE practice was to deny blind bar applicants the use of assistive technology on the MBE and MPRE. She is a blind 2009 honors graduate of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Law. She also served as the first president of the National Association of Law Students with Disabilities and was also a member of the NFB chapter in the western Los Angeles area. Stephanie knew that she wanted to take the bar examination in late 2009 or early 2010 and needed to use a combination of JAWS and ZoomText. Her initial research revealed that NCBE would not allow her to use these technologies, even though the California Bar Association would allow her to use them on the state portion of the exam. At first I thought this would be a pretty easy problem to solve. Either I, as president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, or Dr. Maurer, as president of the National Federation of the Blind, could contact NCBE, explain the problem and the proper use of assistive technology, and then walk away with a solution. I refer you to my earlier discussion of making assumptions. In early 2009 we started our contact with NCBE and urged them to change their policy. To this day their national policy still precludes the use of assistive technology on the portions of the bar examination that they control. Despite their loud and vociferous protestations before the nine different federal courts where we have appeared, I still cannot understand why they continue to refuse to offer the bar examination with the accommodations needed by these blind law students. NCBE has consciously decided to spend millions of dollars in legal fees fighting us rather than finding a workable solution. Erica Moeser, president of NCBE, and Dr. Maurer became pen pals for several months in 2009, and NCBE even had contact with the International Braille and Technology Center for the Blind at the Jernigan Institute. At the end of this process NCBE decided that it would continue its practice of denying the use of assistive technology on the bar examination. In the alternative, they offered Stephanie and others the use of a human reader, a large CCTV, the examination on an audio CD, or the examination in Braille. This was the menu, and applicants could select from only these choices. Let me digress to address some of the comments that I have heard from within and outside the blindness community. They go something like this: "Life isn't perfect for a blind person, and you just need to accept whatever is offered. As blind people we have to be tougher. So suck it up and take the test with a reader or whatever. After all, many of us used readers in the past and did so successfully." Although I agree that blind people generally must be tougher and more resourceful, this does not mean that we must climb much higher peaks if more reasonable and practical approaches are readily available. To make some analogies, sighted test takers are not forced to take the exam without their eye glasses or contacts. Neither are they forced to read the exam upside down, even though they might be able to manage with great effort to do so. If forced to compete in this way, it would be virtually impossible for them to perform at their best and demonstrate what they really know since a majority of their brainpower and concentration would be required to focus on reading rather than on the question and its answer. The bar examination and other professional examinations like it are high-stakes, high-pressure exams and require test takers' maximum concentration. If blind applicants are unfamiliar with using readers, CCTVs, or other accommodations, they should not be forced to use an unfamiliar method to take one of the most important tests that they will ever take. Nevertheless, this is precisely what NCBE wanted Stephanie and others to do. To make a long story a bit shorter, we were not able to negotiate successfully with NCBE and had no other option but to sue for violations of the ADA in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in early November of 2009. Because Stephanie applied to take the February 2010 California Bar Examination, we had precious little time to get the kind of court ruling we needed for her to take the examination with the accommodations she had used in law school. Therefore we filed a motion for preliminary injunction, an urgent motion that tells the court that it must act quickly on a matter because, if it does not, the opportunity being addressed will have passed, and there will be no way to correct the wrong done in the future. Bar examinations are offered only twice each year, and, if people cannot take an exam, their careers are delayed by at least six months. This may not seem like a big deal, but, when you consider that the average law student now racks up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt for outrageous law school tuition, a six-month delay is far from trivial. It is critical for a newly graduated law student to become licensed and employed as soon as possible. I haven't worked on this case alone. NCBE is a large organization with tens of millions of dollars of revenue each year. It has the capacity to hire some of the nation's largest and most powerful law firms, and it has done exactly that throughout the course of this litigation. To combat this inherent advantage for NCBE, we had to marshal our best effort to assemble a powerful team as well. From day one Dan Goldstein of Brown, Goldstein and Levy and I have been the two lead attorneys on this matter. We have had the privilege of working with several other skilled and experienced attorneys in California; Vermont; Washington, D.C.; and elsewhere. In particular we have been greatly aided by Disability Rights Advocates of Berkeley, California, and its executive director, Larry Paradis. Without the tremendous team that we assembled, the victories achieved would not have been possible. This tremendous show of legal power has been possible only because of the resources, philosophy, and commitment of the National Federation of the Blind. We engaged in whirlwind litigation preparation and got the case ready for a hearing before United States District Court Judge Charles Breyer at the end of January 2010. By the way, Judge Breyer is the brother of United States Supreme Court Justice Steven Breyer. The oral arguments went very well, and on February 4, 2010, Judge Breyer granted our motion for preliminary injunction and ordered NCBE to provide Stephanie Enyart with the accommodations she needed to take the February 2010 California Bar Examination. Immediately after we achieved this successful order, NCBE filed an emergency motion with the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit asking that court to prevent Judge Breyer's order from taking effect. The Ninth Circuit denied the emergency motion but did allow NCBE to pursue its appeal of Judge Breyer's preliminary order on the normal docket of the court. A preliminary injunction is a temporary order and not the final ruling of the court. It is extraordinary relief and very rarely granted. To gain relief on future administrations of the bar examination, we would need to achieve another preliminary injunction or a permanent injunction. Because well over half of the applicants who take the California Bar Examination fail, needing another injunction from the court stood as a real possibility in February of 2010. Unfortunately, like the majority of her fellow applicants, Stephanie did not pass the exam in February. We had to go back to Judge Breyer in June and get another order. Despite NCBE's best efforts, we achieved that order as well. This allowed Stephanie to take the July 2010 bar examination with her requested accommodations. Meanwhile three blind applicants in Maryland--Tim Elder, Ann Blackfield, and Michael Whitwer--requested the use of assistive technology on the Maryland Bar Examination, but NCBE of course denied their requests. We filed a similar preliminary injunction motion with the United States District Court of Maryland, and the case got assigned to U.S. District Court Judge Frederick Motz. Unfortunately he ruled against us. In my view his reasoning was greatly flawed and a terrible interpretation of the law. One can read more about Judge Motz's decision and the earlier parts of this NCBE saga in my article, "SWEP and the Bars of Our Prison," which ran in the October 2010 Braille Monitor. In California the Ninth Circuit appeal continued. We filed our appellate brief during the summer of 2010, and the Ninth Circuit scheduled oral arguments for December. Dr. Maurer and I, along with the entire legal team, prepared Dan Goldstein to argue before the court, and Dan delivered a tremendous argument on December 6. At the hearing the court made it clear to us that it wanted to rule quickly and that it felt great skepticism about NCBE's arguments. Let me pause to address some of the arguments NCBE has trotted out everywhere we go on our tour of the United States federal court system. NCBE argues that individuals with disabilities do not get to choose unilaterally the accommodation they wish to use. Throughout this litigation NCBE has referred to Stephanie's request for the use of assistive technology as her "preferred accommodation" and has often characterized her request as something that was trivial or a matter of whimsy. NCBE argues that, because Stephanie has used readers and CCTVs in the past, she could use them now on the bar examination. It also argues that the DOJ regulation I cited at the beginning of this article should be ignored and that a testing agency does not need to provide the accommodation that best ensures that the test taker's abilities and knowledge are measured, but that NCBE is only obligated to provide some reasonable accommodation. This argument is flawed for many reasons. The bar examination is a high-pressure, high-stakes exam. Applicants must be able to concentrate at peak efficiency to pass. If blind applicants are spending a great deal of effort working with unfamiliar or inefficient accommodations, their concentration is diverted, to their detriment. Additionally, Congress and the DOJ adopted strong language regarding testing entities, presumably because examinations are far different from employment and other situations covered by the ADA. When working with an employer or in a classroom, a long-term relationship exists in which the individual with a disability can work with the entity to determine the most reasonable and efficient accommodation. Conversely, licensing examinations are often one-shot opportunities given under a great deal of pressure, and applicants with disabilities must be able to use the accommodations with which they are most familiar and comfortable. Additionally, NCBE has also made the argument that it is not covered by the ADA. It makes this argument because it is the state bar in each jurisdiction that administers the overall bar examination and decides how to administer it. Therefore NCBE says that it does not directly offer the exam. The major problem with this argument is that NCBE makes the decision about what accommodations will be offered on its portions of the exam. Moreover, NCBE gives explicit instructions on how to administer its examinations, and, if a state bar does not follow those instructions, that state bar risks having all of its NCBE exams invalidated. In every case we have brought in this ongoing saga, the state bars have been more than willing to grant the use of assistive technology as a reasonable accommodation but have not been allowed to do so on the NCBE examinations because NCBE makes that call. NCBE's third major argument is that to offer the bar exam with assistive technology poses an undue burden on it. This is certainly not true in a financial sense because NCBE passes the cost of the accommodation on to the individual state bar organization. Furthermore, NCBE has millions of dollars of revenue each year and always reports substantial revenues in excess of expenses. On January 4, 2011, Louis Braille's two-hundred-second birthday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued an opinion in this matter. It ruled that Judge Breyer was correct to issue a preliminary injunction, and therefore it affirmed his order that NCBE provide the use of assistive technology as an accommodation on the portions of the bar examination it controls. Additionally the Ninth Circuit confirmed that NCBE's reasonable-accommodation argument is not the proper standard. The court said the DOJ "best ensured" regulation should be applied. The Ninth Circuit is the first appellate court to address and rule on the question of whether the DOJ regulation should apply. This decision represents an extremely important and precedent-setting victory for any individual with a disability seeking accommodations on an examination offered by a private entity. Next chronologically in this saga is Tim Elder's application to take the California Bar Examination. Incidentally, Tim is a two-time winner of NFB scholarships. He now serves as second vice president of the National Association of Blind Lawyers, but in January of 2011 Tim was not yet a licensed attorney in California and needed to take that state's bar examination. When he requested the use of his preferred screen reader to take the MBE and MPRE, NCBE of course denied the request. We filed another motion for preliminary injunction in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. Tim's case was assigned to the Honorable Susan Illston. On February 11, 2011, we appeared before Judge Illston and went over the same old arguments with NCBE. Judge Illston ruled in our favor, and Tim took the February 2011 California Bar Examination with the use of JAWS. Judge Illston cited what was then the very recently issued decision of the Ninth Circuit to support her ruling. Additionally she explicitly ruled that NCBE could not hide behind its argument that it did not fall under the provisions of the ADA because it did not offer the exam. By this time one would have thought that NCBE would have gotten the message that the trend was going against it. However, NCBE filed a petition for writ of certiorari before the United States Supreme Court. Our Supreme Court has what is called discretionary jurisdiction over the cases filed with it. This means that the court does not have to hear every appeal made to it. In fact the reality is that the Supreme Court hears less than one percent of all cases it is asked to review. In its petition to the Supreme Court, NCBE raised the same old legal arguments, and several testing organizations filed their own amicus briefs urging the Court to take this case. Meanwhile other blind applicants made known their wishes to take portions of the bar exam using assistive technology. Katherine Bonnette of Washington wished to take the July 2011 Washington, D.C., Bar Examination with JAWS, and NCBE denied her application. Again we filed a motion for preliminary injunction, this time before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. United States District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Cotelly ruled in our favor on July 13, 2011, and she cited Judge Breyer's decision, the Ninth Circuit's ruling, and Judge Illston's opinion. She order NCBE to provide Katherine Bonnette with the MBE using JAWS. In Vermont Deanna Jones, one of our members, applied to take the MPRE. At that time she was about to start her third year of law school at the University of Vermont, where she had always used ZoomText and Kurzweil 3000 to take her exams. It is common for those in the third year of law school to take the MPRE and get that part of the bar exam out of the way. As usual, NCBE denied Deanna's request for the use of assistive technology, and we filed a motion for preliminary injunction before the U.S. District Court for the District of Vermont. On August 2, 2011, Chief Judge Christina Reiss granted our motion, and once again NCBE was ordered to provide the requested accommodations. Afterwards NCBE appealed Judge Reiss's decision to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, and that appeal is still pending. During the summer 2011 proceedings we filed an additional motion in Stephanie's case. As I mentioned above, a preliminary injunction is only a temporary measure. To make sure that Stephanie Enyart could take the MBE and MPRE again in California, and perhaps in other states, we requested that Judge Breyer make his ruling permanent. We filed a motion for summary judgment, a motion in which you tell the court that, even if it looks at the facts in the light most favorable to the other party, in this case NCBE, we would win as a matter of law. We argued that the "best-ensured" standard is now the law in the Ninth Circuit. We asserted that NCBE could not marshal any facts demonstrating that anything other than the use of assistive technology would best ensure that the bar exam measure her abilities rather than her disability. We introduced several expert witnesses, who all indicated that Stephanie needed to use assistive technology to have the best and fairest opportunity to pass the bar examination. None of NCBE's experts were able to say which accommodation best ensured that Stephanie's abilities would be measured. NCBE again made all the same arguments and also argued that our motion failed because we had no medical doctor who could testify that Stephanie Enyart needed the accommodations she had requested. The Supreme Court started its new term in September of 2011 and reviewed all the petitions filed over the summer, including the one filed by NCBE. We had filed an extensive brief opposing its petition and told the Supreme Court that it should not take NCBE's case and should allow the Ninth Circuit's decision to stand. In early October the Supreme Court denied NCBE's petition and its attempt to have the highest court undo what the Ninth Circuit had decided. On October 11, 2011, we appeared before Judge Breyer again to argue the summary judgment motion. The court took only thirteen days to write a decision, and here is the way we announced the Court's October 24, 2011, finding to the world. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Federal Judge Issues Permanent Legal Resolution for Blind Law School Graduate Who Paved the Way for Blind Test Takers Berkeley, California (October 26, 2011): On Monday, October 24, the Honorable Judge Charles R. Breyer ended a two-year legal battle between a blind law school graduate and a national testing corporation over the graduate's right to use a computer equipped with assistive technology to take the California Bar Exam. Granting Stephanie Enyart's motion for summary judgment, Judge Breyer found that Ms. Enyart is entitled to take the bar exam on a computer equipped with text-to-speech screen reading and visual screen magnification software as the method that will best ensure that she is tested on her aptitude rather than her disability. Stephanie Enyart, who graduated from UCLA School of Law in 2009 and first sought to take the bar exam that same year, was forced into court by the refusal of the National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) to allow her to take the bar exam using her primary reading method, a computer equipped with screen-reading and screen-magnifying software. Ms. Enyart, who became blind in early adulthood as a result of macular degeneration, has relied on screen-reading and screen-magnifying technology to read since college, through law school, and in her professional career. Although Ms. Enyart won a preliminary injunction in early 2010 ordering NCBE to provide her requested accommodations, the case has remained in court for almost two years as NCBE unsuccessfully challenged the district court's preliminary injunction order, first to the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and then to the United States Supreme Court. NCBE argued that it had fulfilled its legal obligations to Ms. Enyart by offering accommodations such as Braille or a human reader, notwithstanding evidence that these alternatives do not work well for her. The courts resoundingly rejected that argument, holding that licensing examinations must be administered to exam takers with sensory impairments in a manner that "best ensures they are tested on what the examination purports to measure, rather than on the exam takers' impairments." Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Although blind people have practiced law successfully throughout history, we still face unreasonable and unwarranted barriers to entering and achieving success in the profession. Judge Breyer's decision is a tremendous step forward in granting blind Americans seeking to enter the practice of law full and equal access to the process of acquiring their credentials. We applaud this common-sense ruling and expect full compliance going forward from the National Conference of Bar Examiners." Anna Levine of Disability Rights Advocates, an attorney representing the plaintiff, said, "Judge Breyer's decision vindicates Stephanie Enyart's request to take the bar exam on a computer so that she can be tested on what other examinees are tested on, rather than on how well she uses an unfamiliar reading method. We only wish that NCBE had not fought this simple, justified request so aggressively over the past two years." The suit was filed on November 3, 2009, and charged that the NCBE violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and California's Unruh Civil Rights Act by denying accommodations on the Multistate Bar Examination and the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination, two components of the California Bar Exam controlled by NCBE. The state bar granted Ms. Enyart's request to use a computer on the essay portions of the bar exam but was unable to grant her request on the portions controlled by NCBE. Ms. Enyart was represented with the support of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) by Brown, Goldstein and Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, Maryland, and the LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., in Denver, Colorado. The plaintiff was further represented by Disability Rights Advocates (DRA), a national nonprofit law center that specializes in civil rights cases on behalf of persons with disabilities, with offices in Berkeley, California, and New York City. I must put Judge Breyer's ruling in context to explain how extraordinary it is. The American Bar Association has compiled statistics demonstrating that defendants win ADA cases well over ninety-five percent of the time. Plaintiffs almost never win ADA cases, especially on summary judgment. Judge Breyer used the Ninth Circuit's ruling and applied the "best-ensured" standard. He also commented on NCBE's insistence that a medical professional had to opine that Stephanie needed the accommodations she had requested. In our experience as blind people we often hear that a medical doctor has to decide what is best for us. Doctors can tell us that we are blind and how we got there. Very rarely do they have the training to tell us what accommodations and alternative techniques we need. Doctors do not spend their time trying to figure out how to accommodate blindness. Their emphasis is on trying to prevent blindness. Consequently doctors normally do not make good witnesses when telling a court or jury how blindness should be accommodated. Because doctors command so much esteem and automatic respect, courts and juries often give their opinions about practical and most appropriate accommodations too much weight. Fortunately Judge Breyer understood this issue properly and, when addressing NCBE's argument that only a medical professional could speak to what Stephanie Enyart truly needed, he stated, this "argument misses the point of the testimony. The most effective assistive technologies for accommodating Ms. Enyart's disability are not matters that require a medical opinion, but rather experience, skill, and knowledge with the use, application, and evaluation of assistive technologies." In one respect our press release was not entirely accurate. The legal battle has not quite ended. Because we have won a final judgment in Stephanie's case, the ADA allows us to collect attorneys' fees and costs as the prevailing party. Because we have had to litigate so forcefully with NCBE, we have spent several hundred hours on Stephanie's behalf, and we anticipate being able to collect millions of dollars in fees. Once we receive that fee award, that money will go to good use. Despite the fact that we have secured something like seven substantial legal victories against NCBE, with only one bad opinion against us, NCBE is still waging this battle with vigor. As I mentioned previously, Deanna Jones' case is before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, and we expect to have a hearing before that court early this year. As I conclude this article, I remain perplexed about why NCBE has fought so hard to maintain its policy of denying the use of assistive technology on the portions of the bar exam it administers. Part of the problem is that NCBE and many other entities still view the use of accommodations as something special and extraordinary and expect us to feel that any entity that makes any nod to our blindness is doing us a favor and that we should be grateful for what we do receive. Our founder, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek, wrote a landmark law review article entitled "The Right to Live in the World: The Disabled in the Law of Torts." This was one of the earliest pieces of legal writing which clearly established the rights of the blind and otherwise disabled as fundamental human and civil rights. Dr. tenBroek's writing reminds us that accommodations to our disabilities are not acts of charity but rather a means to a level playing field. We have the right to live in a world in which society does not create and maintain artificial barriers preventing us from true equality. With respect to our ongoing saga with NCBE, its policy prohibiting the use of assistive technology on the bar exam creates an artificial barrier. The exams start out as electronic files. Those files can be read with a screen-reading program. Screen-reading programs give blind people independent and immediate access to text. Although the use of this technology cannot give us precisely the same experience as the sighted, for the vast majority of blind bar applicants, their assistive technology gives them as close to the same experience as anything ever has and now can. As the courts have ruled, providing this accommodation does not unduly burden NCBE. So it comes down to a matter of will and choice. Thus far NCBE has chosen to go to great lengths to fight us and has made the strongest possible effort to deny us the common-sense accommodations we need to compete. Although life for us is better than ever before, this saga demonstrates with compelling force that we still have a long journey ahead of us before we can declare our freedom and first-class citizenship. As I sit at this keyboard using assistive technology to write and review this piece, I have no clue how long it will take for us to prevail. I do know, however, that we will emerge victorious. The right to information is a fundamental human right. Technology and the law give us the right and ability to access information on terms of equality with the nondisabled. Still many sectors of society will not acknowledge this right, and therefore we must compel their compliance through legal action. Legal battles like this one are expensive and lengthy. However, the cost of not acting is far greater for blind people. We are far along on our march towards true freedom, and our ultimate destination of full equality is close at hand. Because of the common commitment, love, and philosophy we share, we shall permit no force, not NCBE, not anyone, from stopping us. Freedom will be ours! From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:15:08 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is Apple's own iBooks. The Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and > presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books > in epub format, but not protected formats. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Jacobson > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also > reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know > these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some > extent on newer devices. > > When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should > look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind > which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by > Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not > certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with > a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very > nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and > they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are > not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no > CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple > devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can > be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind > such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that > simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as > the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does > editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. > Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet > through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other > devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and > the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. > How else can I confuse the issue? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > >> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading > needs >> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >> worth learning. > >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering > this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication > in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Randy, > >> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >> Sense. I will look into it. > >> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > >> Regards, >> Andrew > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Andrew > >> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > >> Randy > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece > I'm >> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, > sitting >> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it > to >> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >> > >> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >> there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >> > >> Many thanks in advance! > >> > >> Regards > >> Andrew Webb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould > . >> com > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi > .com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Fri Mar 9 17:15:13 2012 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:15:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> References: <00c501ccfdf3$3afd49a0$b0f7dce0$@wiennergould.com> <002101ccfe11$129cd930$37d68b90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <687DEBB12226C246A2070B791A47BD4E0E8BCE66@EXCH1.stmarytx.edu> Hi all, I have a court hearing this morning where I will need to read several questions to witnesses. I use my Iphone and a Refreshabraille 18 braille display. This works very well. Hope this information helps. Robert D. Dittman Student Attorney St. Mary's University, Center for Legal and Social Justice (Civil Clinic) 2507 N.W. 36th Street San Antonio, TX  78228-3918 Phone: (210) 431-5760  fax: (210) 431-5700 Email: rdittman at mail.stmarytx.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, immediately contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:24 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books in epub format, but not protected formats. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices. When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. How else can I confuse the issue? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to >the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal >reading needs >now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus >any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a >decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable >products are worth learning. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the >individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained >herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you >receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Randy, >Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the >Book Sense. I will look into it. >Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >Regards, >Andrew >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Farber, Randy >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Andrew > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >On Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >Hello all, > >I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. >The piece I'm >envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just >about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the >house, sitting >at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use >it to >download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, >and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > >Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my >attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I >wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > >Many thanks in advance! > >Regards >Andrew Webb > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail >.com >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennerg >ould . >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >visi .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Mar 9 17:27:27 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:27:27 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: >There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is Apple's own iBooks. The Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. >Respectfully, >Aser Tolentino, Esq. >On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: >> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read books >> in epub format, but not protected formats. >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also >> reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know >> these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some >> extent on newer devices. >> >> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should >> look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind >> which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by >> Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am not >> certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with >> a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very >> nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and >> they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are >> not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The Apple >> devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can >> be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind >> such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that >> simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as >> the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet >> through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other >> devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense and >> the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. >> How else can I confuse the issue? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >> >>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >>> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to the >>> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading >> needs >>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus any >>> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >>> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products are >>> worth learning. >> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >>> attached >>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >> this >>> email >>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>> copying, >>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>> attached to >>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication >> in >>> error, >>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >>> telephoning >>> us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Randy, >> >>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the Book >>> Sense. I will look into it. >> >>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >> >>> Regards, >>> Andrew >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Andrew >> >>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >>> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >> >>> Randy >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >> >>> Hello all, >> >>> >> >>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >>> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece >> I'm >>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just about >>> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, >> sitting >>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use it >> to >>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other documents >>> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my >>> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >>> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. >> >>> >> >>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >>> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my attention >>> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >>> there might be some other good possibilities out there. >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks in advance! >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> Andrew Webb >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould >> . >>> com >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi >> .com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Mar 9 17:57:27 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 12:57:27 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D045F620AB904@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> See the conference indicated below, which will have a disability related working group. We would be pleased if you would join us at the American University Washington College of Law for the Inaugural Conference on Global Health, Gender and Human Rights event scheduled for March 21-22, 2012; Day 1 - 3:30pm - 9:00pm Day 2 - 8:30am - 5:30pm To register for this program, please go to www.wcl.american.edu/secle/registration Further information on this program is at http://www.wcl.american.edu/secle/founders/2012/20120321.cfm [cid:image001.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image002.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image003.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] [cid:image004.jpg at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] For additional information please contact the Office of Special Events & Continuing Legal Education Office of Special Events and Continuing Legal Education American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington, DC 20016-8199 (202) 274-4075 (202) 274-4079 - fax www.wcl.american.edu/secle secle at wcl.american.edu For a full listing of our upcoming programs, including those offering CLE, please go to http://www.wcl.american.edu/secle/founders/2012/events.cfm [cid:image005.gif at 01CCFDF4.2DF329E0] Staff Attorney OAA L.L.M. 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Name: image005.gif Type: image/gif Size: 3417 bytes Desc: image005.gif URL: From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 18:00:13 2012 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:00:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which is >> Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the case > with many ebook and PDF > viewers. I also ran into an app called VoiceReader, which can import PDF's > and allow you to navigate the > text fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent of > the operating system screen > reader much like the GhostReader program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can read >>> books >>> in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages >>> attached >>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >>> this >>> email >>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>> copying, >>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>> attached to >>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>> in >>> error, >>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >>> by >>> telephoning >>> us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also >>> reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such? I know >>> these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some >>> extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should >>> look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind >>> which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by >>> Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called. I am >>> not >>> certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing >>> with >>> a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very >>> nice. I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have >>> and >>> they are getting better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are >>> not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. The >>> Apple >>> devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and >>> can >>> be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the >>> blind >>> such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't >>> that >>> simple, though. It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such >>> as >>> the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet >>> through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while >>> other >>> devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage. The Booksense >>> and >>> the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are very >>>> expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to >>>> the >>>> functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus >>>> any >>>> book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone has a decent >>>> speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple portable products >>>> are >>>> worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages >>>> attached >>>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>>> copying, >>>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >>>> attached to >>>> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this >>>> communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or >>>> by >>>> telephoning >>>> us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the >>>> Book >>>> Sense. I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more >>>> expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic device >>>> that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just >>>> about >>>> anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could use >>>> it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents >>>> in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange >>>> my >>>> downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to >>>> highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, >>>> anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my >>>> attention >>>> that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I wondered if >>>> there might be some other good possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 18:39:56 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:39:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> The iPad is similar to the iPhone. For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard. I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books. If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense. I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly >>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go. The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 19:05:39 2012 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:05:39 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> References: <6989BE19-59E6-40E8-ADF5-23DE36137C57@gmail.com> <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <378E0290-D5A0-41C9-9D12-5A896559D761@gmail.com> I shutter at the prospect of composing even a moderately long email using nothing but the touchscreen, but that's why I carry a bluetooth keyboard. Navigation has recently been made easier by the addition of two features from the Mac version of VoiceOver, an item chooser and search function that can be called upon wherever you are in the operating system. Navigating complicated websites or documents can be difficult on the 3.5 inch screen since sighted users are expected to zoom in as necessary. For this reason, the iPad can be easier to navigate. I've grown so fond of the iPad that it became my preferred method of doing legal research. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" wrote: > The iPad is similar to the iPhone. For typing I would agree, the laptop is > way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on > an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard. I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod > is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format > and audio books. If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I > would use that instead of an iPod. > > ------------------------------------------- > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Sullivan > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. > However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct > in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your > finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable > or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's > fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if > navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and > speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. > > Paul Sullivan > > On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: >> Thank you. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: >> >>> There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>> is Apple's own iBooks. The >> Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the >> case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called >> VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text >> fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent >> of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader >> program on the Mac. >> >>> Respectfully, >>> Aser Tolentino, Esq. >> >>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can >>>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>>> legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>>> strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >>>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>>> such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>>> >>>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>>> it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>>> know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good >>>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>>> better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>>> BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It >>>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>>> coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>>> through a connection to a computer. >>>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Steve Jacobson >>>> >>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are >>>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my >>>>> personal reading >>>> needs >>>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone >>>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple >>>>> portable products are worth learning. >>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>>> Rochester, MI 48307 >>>>> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >>>>> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >>>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>>> is legally privileged. >>>>> If >>>>> you are >>>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>>> delivering >>>> this >>>>> email >>>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>>> prohibited. Should you receive this communication >>>> in >>>>> error, >>>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Randy, >>>> >>>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>>> the Book Sense. I will look into it. >>>> >>>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly >>>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>>> >>>>> Randy >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>>> go. The piece >>>> I'm >>>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>>> around the house, >>>> sitting >>>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could >>>>> use it >>>> to >>>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>>> documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to >>>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>>> text. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come >>>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt >>>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>>> possibilities out there. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance! >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>> >>>>> Andrew Webb >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>>> com >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>>> mail.com >>>>> ----- >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>>> 03/08/12 >>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>>> nergould >>>> . >>>>> com >>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>>> n%40visi >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>>> com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>>> gmail.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>> 0visi.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 >> %40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 9 19:21:48 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:21:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, if Andrew is going to consider a computer, he may want to think seriously about the macbook air. --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: From: Daniel K. Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 12:39 PM The iPad is similar to the iPhone.  For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard.  I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books.  If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe.  The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome.  I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is  Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well.  Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such?  I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called.  I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice.  I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better.  HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight.  >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do.  The choice just isn't that simple, though.  It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage.  The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice.  But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch.  I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible.  The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense.  The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited.  Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much.  Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense.  I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>>    I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device.  It is slightly >>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go.  The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc.  I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats.  I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines?  It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream  might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 9 19:48:29 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:48:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com> <1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008501ccfe2d$9a1c6f80$ce554e80$@wiennergould.com> For pleasure, those are great. For work as an attorney though, I can't imagine not going with a windows computer, but I haven't really used a Mac. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices Hello, if Andrew is going to consider a computer, he may want to think seriously about the macbook air. --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: From: Daniel K. Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 12:39 PM The iPad is similar to the iPhone.  For typing I would agree, the laptop is way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard.  I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format and audio books.  If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I would use that instead of an iPod. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic. However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct in depth research, etc, makes me cringe.  The technique of moving your finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable or in a coherent order is very cumbersome.  I may not be using it too it's fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and speed, my laptop is way, way more effective. Paul Sullivan On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote: > >>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which >>is  Apple's own iBooks. The > Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the > case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called > VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text > fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent > of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader > program on the Mac. > >>Respectfully, >>Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz" >> >> wrote: > >>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and >>> presumably amazon books as well.  Other devices and programs can >>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel K. Beitz >>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >>> legally privileged. >>> If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>> delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any >>> of the information contained herein or attached to this email is >>> strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in >>> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of >>> this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and >>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and >>> such?  I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been >>> addressed to some extent on newer devices. >>> >>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one >>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House >>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar >>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever >>> it is called.  I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the >>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I >>> know that the Apple devices are very nice.  I did not have a good >>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting >>> better.  HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much >>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no >>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight. >>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a >>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is >>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the >>> BookSense can't do.  The choice just isn't that simple, though.  It >>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds >>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does >>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth. >>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the >>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network >>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi >>> coverage.  The Booksense and the Stream must get their information >>> through a connection to a computer. >>> How else can I confuse the issue? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >>> >>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice.  But devices like this are >>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything >>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch.  I use an IPad for my >>>> personal reading >>> needs >>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format >>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible.  The iPhone >>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense.  The apple >>>> portable products are worth learning. >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> Daniel K. Beitz >>>> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >>>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >>>> Rochester, MI  48307 >>>> Phone:  (248) 841-9405 >>>> Fax:  (248) 652-2729 >>>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >>>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >>>> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that >>>> is legally privileged. >>>> If >>>> you are >>>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for >>>> delivering >>> this >>>> email >>>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the >>>> information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly >>>> prohibited.  Should you receive this communication >>> in >>>> error, >>>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this >>>> email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Randy, >>> >>>> Thanks much.  Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is >>>> the Book Sense.  I will look into it. >>> >>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrew >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Andrew >>> >>>>    I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device.  It is slightly >>>>more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. >>> >>>> Randy >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices >>> >>>> Hello all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic >>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the >>>> go.  The piece >>> I'm >>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out >>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working >>>> around the house, >>> sitting >>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc.  I could >>>> use it >>> to >>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other >>>> documents in a variety of digital formats.  I'd like to be able to >>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and >>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of >>>> text. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly >>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines?  It has come >>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream  might be an apt >>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good >>>> possibilities out there. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks in advance! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> Andrew Webb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw. >>>> com >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: >>>> 03/08/12 >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wien >>>> nergould >>> . >>>> com >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobso >>>> n%40visi >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40 >>> gmail.com > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%4 >>0visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paul.sullivan416 > %40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.ne t _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 20:57:56 2012 From: wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com (keri) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:57:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] credit scores References: <005a01ccfe24$065abf30$13103d90$@wiennergould.com><1331320908.53472.YahooMailClassic@web181503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <008501ccfe2d$9a1c6f80$ce554e80$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: greetings, I'm looking to try to obtain my credit score. I've done the anual credit reports, but they don't include my credit score. I have registered for creditkarma and they say I have a "thin" file. I don't have money currently to pay a bunch to get my credit score. I'm thinking about getting a credit card to help build my credit up. Since now days you can't do anything without credit... Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keri From awebb2168 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 01:48:24 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:48:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices In-Reply-To: References: <006d01ccfd9c$17f7e7f0$47e7b7d0$@com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2072AC5CC0C@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <00b001ccfdaa$8c548a00$a4fd9e00$@com> Message-ID: <003101ccfe5f$e3f60080$abe20180$@com> Thanks! Good points! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:51 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices I'd still say that a small laptop is: 1 ONly slightly less portable and 2 so much more powerful! You can do everything on it. G On 3/9/12, Andrew Webb wrote: > Randy, > > Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the > Book Sense. I will look into it. > > Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone. > > Regards, > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Farber, Randy > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Andrew > > I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly more > expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic > device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go. > The piece I'm envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and > pull out just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working > around the house, sitting at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer > practice, etc. I could use it to download materials including cases, > statutes, and assorted other documents in a variety of digital > formats. I'd like to be able to easily arrange my downloads into > files for quick retrieval and review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text. > > > > Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, > anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come to my > attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt choice, but I > wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there. > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Regards > > Andrew Webb > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmai > l.com > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: > 03/08/12 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4859 - Release Date: 03/08/12 From zmayfarth23 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:56:58 2012 From: zmayfarth23 at gmail.com (Zachariah M) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:56:58 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Post secondary education accommodations Message-ID: Hello All, I have a situation that I would like some guidance on. I'm an undergraduate student who has multiple disabilities, namely cerebral palsy and legal blindness. Professors both this semester and last have refused to provide accommodations. I have talked to my professors in their office, sent them numerous emails and talked with disability services to no avail. I would appreciate any advice or assistance you all could provide me. Thank you, Zachariah Mayfarth From wmodnl at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 20:58:19 2012 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (Wmodnl) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:58:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Post secondary education accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, Sorry to here of your problems in school. What college/university are you attending? Most schools have offices of affirmative action (OOA), that you can contact when your DS office is not working with you. Learn the chain of command: EG> your directors/supervisors of that office. Finally, you may want to check out the various state and local organizations for the blind. Your state should also have a Disability Law Center (DLC). Good luck. William O'Donnell, distributor Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. www.willsholistics.organogold.com Sent from my iPad On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Zachariah M wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a situation that I would like some guidance on. I'm an undergraduate > student who has multiple disabilities, namely cerebral palsy and legal > blindness. Professors both this semester and last have refused to provide > accommodations. I have talked to my professors in their office, sent them > numerous emails and talked with disability services to no avail. I would > appreciate any advice or assistance you all could provide me. > > Thank you, > > Zachariah Mayfarth > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com > From awebb2168 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 02:10:37 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:10:37 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple Message-ID: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Hello Everyone, First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? Thanks in advance. Andrew From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 02:19:04 2012 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:19:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I use a Mac, and I use a program called Vuescan, which can be found at http://www.hamrick.com/ It has basic OCR, so nothing flashy, but it will read documents, books, mail, etc. For more sophisticated needs or more varied scan environments, keep in mind that you can run a windows virtual machine on a Mac, allowing you to use OpenBook or whatever. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ From awebb2168 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 02:20:43 2012 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:20:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows Message-ID: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Hello again, For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? Thanks, Andrew From dravant at ameritech.net Tue Mar 13 02:45:01 2012 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:45:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> References: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Message-ID: Hello Andrew, I use windows 7 and ms word and outlook and internet explorer at work. I use mostly apple products at home. I use text edit or pages on my mac, making shore to save or convert documents to word documents if I need to take them to work. However, I write all my briefs and letters at work. I can read work documents on my apple devices just fine if all I need to do is read. I do not use excel or ms access very much at all, and cannot realy comment on the apple equivalent of numbers and keynote. Since I have an iphone 4s and an ipad, it is very easy to sync all of my appointments to my mac. I do use openbook at work, which is where I do all of my scanning. if I should need to scan at home, I run windows in a virtual window on my mac using a program called vm ware viewer, so that I can run openbook if needed. If you wish to find a scanning program for the mac, you may want to look at serotech's docu scan product. This e program is compatible with both windows and the mac, and I think if you own a license on one platform, serotech will let you have the other license on the other platform for a nominal fee. e. But check with serotech to be sure about the latter statements. if you are seriously considering the mac, you may want to join a list even if only for a short time called macvisionaries. it is a google groups list. When I was deciding on whether to even get a mac, i joined this list, and the people who knew the mac inside and out, answered most if not all of my questions. You will find some law students and lawyers on the list. So it could be a helpful resource. On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Andrew Webb wrote: > Hello again, > > > > For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you > do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means > of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your > Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible > to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > > > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Tue Mar 13 11:00:41 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> References: <004501cd00bf$e5d641f0$b182c5d0$@com> Message-ID: <002901cd0108$881c13c0$98543b40$@wiennergould.com> If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows Hello again, For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? Thanks, Andrew _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Tue Mar 13 14:50:42 2012 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:50:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: <002901cd0108$881c13c0$98543b40$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: Daniel, In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless that has changed. The problem isn't with VoiceOver, as I understand it, but how Office for the MAC is written. In addition, while you can exchange documents between Apple's TextEdit or even Open Office, there are compatibility issues there. Therefore, and this is not a knock on Apple at all, I would tend to want to use whichever platform is being used by an office within which you work. Although people do it, I'm not sure I would even try using Windows on a MAC because there are just unknowns there although I don't doubt it works. If one is working independently, then one definitely should examine Windows and Macs to figure out which would work best for them. I am convinced that MACs are probably more stable and that there are other advantages, but the fact is that the two platforms are different and each has advantages and disadvantages. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: >If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. >Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, >and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, >iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. >------------------------------------------- >Daniel K. Beitz >Wienner & Gould, P.C. >950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >Rochester, MI 48307 >Phone: (248) 841-9405 >Fax: (248) 652-2729 >dbeitz at wiennergould.com >This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >attached >to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >you are >not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >email >to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >copying, >or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >attached to >this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >error, >please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >telephoning >us at (248) 841-9400. >-----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Andrew Webb >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM >To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows >Hello again, > >For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you >do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means >of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your >Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible >to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > >Thanks, >Andrew >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From mworkman.lists at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:23:32 2012 From: mworkman.lists at gmail.com (Marc Workman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:23:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BF32CE6-2672-453D-8D6C-20FDA8191F0F@gmail.com> Steve wrote, In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless that has changed. I'm not sure if and when they weren't compatible, but iWork, Apple's version of Office, has been more or less accessible to Voiceover users for at least the year and a half that I've had my Mac. I believe the suite of apps was updated in 2009, so that might have been when they became accessible. I say more or less accessible because I think there is general, though not unanimous agreement, that *advanced* word processing and spreadsheet work is, at the very least, easier and involves fewer workarounds when using Office and a Windows screen reader. My understanding is that there are pretty significant accessibility issues with Keynote, the Apple equivalent to Power Point. Reading presentations is possible, but creation is, at best, difficult. Regarding compatibility issues, I have had problems opening and editing .doc files when switching from one platform to the other, so I now try to save things in RTF, though there may be issues with adopting that practice in all situations. Regards, Marc On 2012-03-13, at 8:50 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote: > Daniel, > > In addition, I do not believe that Apple's version of Office works with VoiceOver at this point unless > that has changed. The problem isn't with VoiceOver, as I understand it, but how Office for the MAC is > written. In addition, while you can exchange documents between Apple's TextEdit or even Open Office, > there are compatibility issues there. Therefore, and this is not a knock on Apple at all, I would tend > to want to use whichever platform is being used by an office within which you work. Although people do > it, I'm not sure I would even try using Windows on a MAC because there are just unknowns there although > I don't doubt it works. If one is working independently, then one definitely should examine Windows and > Macs to figure out which would work best for them. I am convinced that MACs are probably more stable > and that there are other advantages, but the fact is that the two platforms are different and each has > advantages and disadvantages. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:00:41 -0400, Daniel K. Beitz wrote: > >> If your office is using windows, the best thing to do is use windows. >> Apples version of office is not fully compatible with office for windows, >> and the windows environment is the standard in business. Apples phones, >> iPods etc. are great, but you need a PC and Jaws for the office. > >> ------------------------------------------- >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages >> attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If >> you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this >> email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in >> error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by >> telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Webb >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:21 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Integrating Apple technology with Windows > >> Hello again, > >> > >> For those using Apple technology as a matter of personal choice, what do you >> do if the office where you work uses Windows? Do you have effective means >> of merging your Apple apps and documents in a Windows environment? Are your >> Apple word processing documents and spreadsheets, etc. readily convertible >> to Windows? Are there other compatibility issues that might arise? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Andrew > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. >> com > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mworkman.lists%40gmail.com From wmodnl at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 18:56:28 2012 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (Wmodnl) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:56:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, is about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since it makes and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a personal reader or going back to windows. William O'Donnell, distributor Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. www.willsholistics.organogold.com Sent from my iPad On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > > > First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive > responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple > IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other > solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. > > > > For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on > options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil > and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its > own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. > I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people > just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com > From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 18:59:37 2012 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:59:37 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: I find the Kurzweil programmes very clunky. Good for what they do but clunky. What do sighted people use for OCR? On MAC or Windows? I realize they don't have the same need of it. On 3/13/12, Wmodnl wrote: > > I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, is > about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since it makes > and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a personal reader or > going back to windows. > > William O'Donnell, distributor > Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. > www.willsholistics.organogold.com > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive >> responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple >> IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other >> solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, >> etc. >> >> >> >> For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on >> options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that >> Kurzweil >> and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its >> own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is >> satisfactory. >> I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people >> just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Tue Mar 13 19:10:09 2012 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:10:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: <007801cd014c$e8916f40$b9b44dc0$@wiennergould.com> Omnipage. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple I find the Kurzweil programmes very clunky. Good for what they do but clunky. What do sighted people use for OCR? On MAC or Windows? I realize they don't have the same need of it. On 3/13/12, Wmodnl wrote: > > I have a Mac and use K3000. It works well when scanning books; that, > is about it. It turns my scanner into a great decoration though since > it makes and creates more OCR errors. You are better off with a > personal reader or going back to windows. > > William O'Donnell, distributor > Organo Gold Enterprises, INC. > www.willsholistics.organogold.com > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:10 PM, "Andrew Webb" wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive >> responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. >> Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there >> are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, >> neb books, etc. >> >> >> >> For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment >> on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding >> that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe >> that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no >> idea if it is satisfactory. >> I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do >> people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmai >> l.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Mar 13 19:18:45 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:18:45 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003501cd014e$1e103d30$5a30b790$@labarrelaw.com> From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:05 PM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Current Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Western District of Oklahoma 12-OKW-01-A 03-08-2012 Resumes must be received no later than Friday, March 16, 2012. Date posted: 03-12-2012 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-905-13/14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Narcotic and Dangerous Drug Section Washington, D.C. 12-CRM-NDDS-045 This announcement is open for 30 days. 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LaBarre) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:19:56 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] {Disarmed} FW: Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern In-Reply-To: <1331664751700.886433.47194071.bulletin.info@messages.whitehouse.gov> References: <1331664751700.886433.47194071.bulletin.info@messages.whitehouse.gov> Message-ID: <003a01cd014e$486e08a0$d94a19e0$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: White House Disability Group [mailto:info at messages.whitehouse.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:53 PM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern The White House Tuesday, March 13, 2012 Apply to be a Fall 2012 White House Intern If you received this email as a forward but would like to be added to the White House Disability Group email list, please visit our website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/disability-issues-contact and fill out the "contact us" form in the disabilities section, or you can email us at disability at who.eop.gov and provide your full name, city, state, and organization. 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Contact the White House The White House • 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW • Washington, DC 20500 • 202-456-1111 From RJaquiss at nfb.org Wed Mar 14 15:03:36 2012 From: RJaquiss at nfb.org (Jaquiss, Robert) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:03:36 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple In-Reply-To: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> References: <004001cd00be$7d755480$785ffd80$@com> Message-ID: <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E100E7AF12496@VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local> Hello: Serotek does offer a solution for the Mac. It is called DocuScan. I have tried it with the HoverCam unit. Print quality is very important. When I tested the DocuScan last August, I found it possible to overload the system. On a Mac, DocuScan is a cloud based application. The Hovercam can capture images quite rapidly about one page per second. The images must be transmitted to Serotek for processing. The text is then available to the user. Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss Access Technology Specialist National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, MD 21230 Phone: (410) 659-9314, Ext. 2422 Email: rjaquiss at nfb.org -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:11 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Scanning with Apple Hello Everyone, First , I'd like to thank folks for the many helpful and substantive responses to my query last week about portable electronic devices. Apple IOS seems to be the popular choice, but I realize that there are other solutions as well, including the Victor Reader, Book Sense, neb books, etc. For those using Apple devices, I wonder if any of you could comment on options for scanning documents for OCR? It's my understanding that Kurzweil and Open Book are not compatible with Apple. I believe that Apple has its own proprietary scanning program, but I have no idea if it is satisfactory. I'm wondering if any of you use the Apple scanning program, or do people just resort back to Kurzweil, OpenBook, etc. for these purposes? Thanks in advance. Andrew _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40nfb.org From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:30:35 2012 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:30:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] (OT) accessible NCAA men's basketball tournament bracket Message-ID: Hello fellow listers, please pardon the off-topic post. I thought some of the college basketball fans among us might be interested in this accessible NCAA tournament bracket. Terrell Thompson, a former colleague and IT accessibility specialist, creates an accessible bracket every year. I think it is primarily designed with visual impairments in mind, but it has some features that are helpful for people with mobility impairments as well. Feel free to pass the link along to anyone you think might be interested. Here's the link: Accessible NCAA Tournament Bracket (http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa/) Enjoy! Will Miller Attorney at Law William T. Miller, P.A. P.O. Box 7 Kernersville, NC 27285 (336) 497-5160 (phone) (336) 497-5161 (fax) william_t_miller at hotmail.com From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Wed Mar 14 16:51:28 2012 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:51:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Job Announcement for Deputy Regional Manager for OCR in HHS Message-ID: <45909D82C38DBE408DA69213A6A4C777F36A4E8F99@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Want to move to Chicago? Or apply for a job anyway? Here's an announcement of a job as the Deputy Regional Manager for the Office for Civil Rights, within the Department of Health and Human Services. Happy job hunting. /s/ Bennett Prows, J.D. The following vacancy announcement for the Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Deputy Regional Manager), GS-0360-14 - HHS-OS-MP-12-624749 Chicago has posted to USA Jobs, the opening and closing dates are as follow Opening 03/14/2012 - Closing 03/20/2012. Please visit USAJOBS to view the vacancy. 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If you have recieved this e-mail in error, or are not its intended recipients, please: do not print, copy, or distribute the above message or its attachments; delete this e-mail from your computer and server; and inform William of this error. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Katie Hathaway Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:17 PM To: Subject: [DRBA] American Diabetes Association seeks part-time legal advocate Dear listmates, We are seeking a part-time legal advocate to help us respond to individuals experiencing diabetes discrimination. This is a contract position through the end of 2012 and is based here in our Alexandria, VA office. The attached description contains more information. Please pass it on to anyone who may be interested. Thanks, Katie Katie Hathaway Director, Legal Advocacy | American Diabetes Association 1701 N. 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I'm trying to anticipate where my income will come from once I'm no longer earning a paycheck. Hope my question is clear - thanks for any info/guidance you may have to offer. Dave A. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 19 19:26:19 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:26:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. M.B.A. and I have established a new law journal, the Mid-Atlantic J. on Law and Pub. Policy. As part of this, I may need to utilize Google Dox. Recently, when utilizing this on-line software, I found it some what difficult with JAWS. I would appreciate any "tips and tricks" on accessing this on-line portal or platform with JAWS. Thanks. From mabrown at ualberta.ca Mon Mar 19 19:33:43 2012 From: mabrown at ualberta.ca (Wade Brown) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:33:43 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry In-Reply-To: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> References: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: Here is Google's help page regarding google apps and accessibility. I've used this info in the past, and most features worked rather well. http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1631886 I found that when working with google docs, it was much easier to download the file, edit it, and re-upload it again later. There were a couple of issues with editing documents when I tried to do it strictly online. That was at least a year ago though, so perhaps they've come up with a better solution. Good luck, Wade Brown JD candidate. University of Alberta. -----Original Message----- From: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:26 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nathan Horne ; jterpslaw at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. M.B.A. and I have established a new law journal, the Mid-Atlantic J. on Law and Pub. Policy. As part of this, I may need to utilize Google Dox. Recently, when utilizing this on-line software, I found it some what difficult with JAWS. I would appreciate any "tips and tricks" on accessing this on-line portal or platform with JAWS. Thanks. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mabrown%40ualberta.ca From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 19 19:39:40 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:39:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry In-Reply-To: References: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AD3@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463222F9AE7@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> Thanks much. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wade Brown Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:34 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Inquiry Here is Google's help page regarding google apps and accessibility. I've used this info in the past, and most features worked rather well. http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1631886 I found that when working with google docs, it was much easier to download the file, edit it, and re-upload it again later. There were a couple of issues with editing documents when I tried to do it strictly online. That was at least a year ago though, so perhaps they've come up with a better solution. Good luck, Wade Brown JD candidate. University of Alberta. -----Original Message----- From: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:26 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nathan Horne ; jterpslaw at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Inquiry Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. M.B.A. and I have established a new law journal, the Mid-Atlantic J. on Law and Pub. Policy. As part of this, I may need to utilize Google Dox. Recently, when utilizing this on-line software, I found it some what difficult with JAWS. I would appreciate any "tips and tricks" on accessing this on-line portal or platform with JAWS. Thanks. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mabrown%40ualberta.ca _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Mar 20 14:56:25 2012 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:56:25 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] tenBroek Symposium and DRBA Conference, NABL Assistance Available Message-ID: <006b01cd06a9$a1654260$e42fc720$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings, below are announcements regarding the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium and the first ever Disability Rights Bar Association's Conference being held in Baltimore, April 19 and 20. The National Association of Blind Lawyers has some financial assistance available for blind attorneys and law students to attend these events. To learn more about and apply for this assistance, contact Scott LaBarre, President of NABL, at slabarre at labarrelaw.com or 303 504-5979. Three Weeks Remaining to Register! for the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Identity in the Disability Rights Movement April 19-20, 2012 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Don't miss your opportunity to hear Eve Hill, senior counselor to Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez at the United States Department of Justice, and other leading disability rights advocates at the 2012 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium. The symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as: judicial perspectives on the presentation of disability cases, how to influence jurors' perception of disability, the impact of the ADA Amendments Act on employment cases, the role of identity in the disability rights movement, and disability discrimination in health care.. 2012 plenary session presenters: * Adrienne Asch, Edward and Robin Milstein Professor of Bioethics, Yeshiva University * David Ball, jury consultant, Miller Malekpour & Ball * Richard S. Brown, Chief Judge, Wisconsin Court of Appeals * Brian East, senior attorney, Disability Rights Texas * Katie Eyer, Research Scholar and Lecturer in Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School * Donovan W. Frank, U.S. District Judge, District of Minnesota * Arlene S. Kanter, Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor for Teaching Excellence and Professor of Law, Syracuse University College of Law * Peggy R. Mastroianni, legal counsel, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Jane Perkins, legal director, National Health Law Program * Francis A. Polito, Chief Administrative Judge, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission * Silvia Yee, senior staff attorney, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund 2012 workshop facilitators: * Michael Allen, partner, Relman, Dane & Colfax * Robert Ardinger, president, Ardinger Consultants and Associates * Charles Brown, director, Volunteer Lawyers for the Blind, American Action Fund for Blind Children and Adults * Michael Bullis, parent * Matthew W. Dietz, principal, Law Offices of Matthew W. Dietz, P.L. * Brian Dimmick, staff attorney, American Diabetes Association * Senator Lisa A. Gladden, Maryland General Assembly * Daniel F. Goldstein, partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Judith A. Gran, partner, Reisman Carolla Gran LLP * Katy Kaplan, assistant director, Temple University Collaborative on Community Inclusion of People with Psychiatric Disabilities * Scott C. LaBarre, principal, LaBarre Law Offices, PC * William J. Phelan, IV, partner, The Gowen Group Law Office PLLC * Howard A. Rosenblum, Chief Executive Officer, National Association of the Deaf * Jackie Simon, member, Equal Rights Center Board of Directors; broker/owner, Jackie Simon Homes, LLC * Joyce Walker-Jones, senior attorney advisor, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 Student registration fee: $25 A limited number of scholarships to cover the registration fee will be available to individuals with demonstrated financial need. To learn more about the symposium and symposium sponsorship opportunities, view the agenda, and register online, please visit http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Law_Symposium.asp. You may also download from this Web site a registration form to mail or fax. Hotel information is also available on the symposium Web site. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Law Symposium Coordinator Jernigan Institute NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 E-mail: lblake at nfb.org ***** A Message from Dan Goldstein Listmates, We are pleased, no, let me start that again, We are excited, even pumped, to announce that the First (Annual?) Meeting of the Disability Rights Bar Association will take place, beginning at 12:30 p.m. on Friday, April 20, 2012 at the National Center for the Blind in Baltimore. This will present an unequaled opportunity for those of us who work in disability rights law to meet and learn from each other and to be re-energized and inspired. This could be a major step forward from what has been a vibrant and useful listserv into a true organization of those who champion disability rights. The conference will begin on the heels of the tenBroek Conference on Disability Rights Law which will take place at the National Center for the Blind on Thursday, April 19, 2012 and the morning of April 20. Our conference will then begin with lunch, followed by two superlative panels. The first, moderated by Sam Bagenstos, with co-panelists Deputy Ass't Attorney General Eve Hill from the Civil Rights Division and Steven Schwartz from the Center for Public Representation will talk about the application of Olmstead to employment and other fields. The second, moderated by Linda Dardarian, with Jocelyn Larkin, Executive Director of the Impact Fund and Larry Paradis, Co-Director of Litigation at Disability Rights Advocates will talk about disability class actions post-Dukes. At 5 o'clock, we will recess and go offsite for "War Stories with Food & Drink." The location is yet to be determined, but it would be a pay your own way evening of frivolity and fellowship. We would ask registrants to pay $25 to defray expenses. So that we know how many to expect for lunch, please email _______ by ___________ to indicate whether you will be attending. Daniel F. Goldstein Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP 120 E. Baltimore St., Suite 1700 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410)962-1030 (410)385-0869 (fax) 443-923-1314 (direct dial) From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 22 19:11:04 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:11:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Feds Crowdsource Ideas to Reduce Technology Hurdles for the Disabled, Nextgov, March 20, 2012 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3ED9296F3@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3ED9296F3@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Link: http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2012/03/government_crowd_sources_508_policy.php Text: Feds Crowdsource Ideas to Reduce Technology Hurdles for the Disabled By Joseph Marks 03/20/12 Federal officials launched an IdeaScale page Monday to crowdsource ideas for reducing the technological barriers disabled Americans encounter when they interact with the federal government as employees or citizens seeking information or services. The page will collect suggestions through April 9. The crowdsourcing initiative follows a series of more formal public listening sessions, according to the IdeaScale page, and a July direction from President Obama to develop a strategic plan for Section 508, a portion of the 1973 Rehabilitation Act focused on making federal IT more accessible to people with disabilities. About 30 suggestions had been posted to the site by Tuesday morning, the most popular of which was standardizing 508 guidelines across agencies. "Whether we are working to achieve the goals of the president's disability executive order, ensuring that people with disabilities have access to services during disasters, improving transportation services or so many other efforts, technology plays a critical role in our success," the White House said in a blog post. "People with disabilities should be able to access their government on an equal footing with all Americans." The post was authored by Kareem Dale, special assistant to the president for disability policy; Lesley Field, acting administrator for federal procurement policy; and Steven VanRoekel, federal chief information officer. The crowdsourcing initiative is sponsored by the Chief Acquisition Officers Council, the Chief Information Officers Council, and the General Services Administration. From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 26 12:15:50 2012 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:15:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Birding for the Blind Event April 2012 Message-ID: <5F7E6855B3549A4096D6B30DCADC2D0463224EC0E8@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> From: Amy_Shoop at fws.gov [mailto:Amy_Shoop at fws.gov] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:42 PM Cc: Nell_Baldacchino at fws.gov Subject: Birding for the Blind Event April 2012 Hello Everyone, Want to introduce your visually impaired students or clients to more outdoor activities? Here is a great event where visually impaired individuals can learn to explore birding by ear as an independent hobby! I am sending this email in hopes that you will pass along this information to your visually impaired clients or students with an interest in nature. Overall, the program focuses on teaching the sounds, shape and size of local birds through tactlie exploration and auditory experiences. This exciting hands on morning begins with participants riding on an all electric tram through various habitats (wetlands, meadows, & forests) on the Patuxent Research Refuge listening for bird calls with experts on hand identifying and answering questions. Then proceeds to a tactile experience in which participants can feel actual bird mounts to determine size and shape of many local birds from owls to songbirds. Participants can register at 301-497-5887. We have done this program for the last few years and we are hoping to spread the word. We are reaching out to ask if you would please take a moment to send or give this announcement out to clients/students you feel may be interested and to encourage them to come if interested. Please feel free to call me at 301-497-5776 with questions. We will gladly provide printed flyers for your establishment. Just respond with a good mailing address. Please call or email with any additional questions. Thank you for your support and suggestions! We sincerely hope that you see this opportunity as a valuable one. Thanks so much! Amy Shoop Park Ranger Patuxent Research Refuge 301-497-5776 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BIRDING FOR THE BLIND 2012.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 71941 bytes Desc: BIRDING FOR THE BLIND 2012.pdf URL: From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Tue Mar 27 14:36:28 2012 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:36:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Comments on Federal 508 Compliance Message-ID: <45909D82C38DBE408DA69213A6A4C777F6999CCA6F@PL-EMSMB4.ees.hhs.gov> I received the following correspondence from my Federal colleague. /s/ Bennett Prows Dear Colleague, We enjoin you to be a part of this conversation to improve the Federal government Section 508 program. Comment by April 9 on Improving the Section 508 Program This National Dialogue is sponsored by the Chief Acquisition Officers Council, the Chief Information Officers Council, and U.S. General Services Administration. This Dialogue is the result of the July 26, 2011 direction from the President to develop a strategic plan for Section 508 and the intent to share the plan with the public. In the development of this plan, the Executive office has met with stakeholders both inside and outside the government and has held a number of listening sessions across the U.S. The Executive office has taken the input from these various initiatives and pulled together a framework for the next phase in our efforts to improve Section 508 management. Before proceeding further with development of the strategic plan, the Executive office is seeking your input. This national dialogue is an opportunity to bring together a diverse community of stakeholders to help shape improvements in how the Federal government manages the Section 508 program. The Executive office is seeking your comments on what has been proposed, encouraging you to propose broad management strategies, tactics, and actions than can ultimately help Federal agencies better comply with Section 508. Select this link for more information about the goals for this dialogue and the next steps to be completed when this dialogue ends on April 9, 2012. Please submit an idea, vote on existing ideas or add your comments on the website provided. http://section508.ideascale.com/ Regards, Akinyemi Banjo /FDWC Policy Advisor U.S. Department of Labor Office of Disability Employment Policy From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Mar 27 19:28:43 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:28:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION closes March 30 Message-ID: Closes this Friday. From: The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right [mailto:3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG] On Behalf Of Phelan, William Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:43 AM To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: [ABA-3D] FW: OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION Two attorney positions at DOJ in DC. William J. Phelan, IV, Esq. Special Projects and Technology Coordinator Commission on Disability Rights American Bar Association william.phelan at americanbar.org http://www.americanbar.org/disabilityrights Notice: The contents of this e-mail may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have recieved this e-mail in error, or are not its intended recipients, please: do not print, copy, or distribute the above message or its attachments; delete this e-mail from your computer and server; and inform William of this error. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Parker, Richard L. (JMD) [mailto:Richard.L.Parker2 at usdoj.gov] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:32 AM To: 'rhondaesq at aol.com'; 'fchabr at comcast.net'; 'hfranks at fgmlaw.com'; 'abedayoub at gmail.com'; 'cprentice at austin.rr.com'; 'chris at license.state.tx.us'; 'jsthom at comcast.net'; Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS); 'pshonb at comcast.net'; 'Sspeilaw at inebraska.com'; 'jkk48 at bellsouth.net'; 'emtelk at optonline.net'; ABA Commission on Disbility Rights; ABA Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity; Rivera, Nicole; 'cgjoslin at ucdavis.edu'; 'info at jewishlawyers.org'; 'gladlaw at glad.org'; 'jwu at glad.org'; ABA Commission on Hispanic Legal Rights & Responsibilities; ABA Commission on Women in the Profession; ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division; 'info at acb.org'; 'musallam at wcl.american.edu'; 'information at advancingequality.org'; 'frost at law.edu'; 'president at apaba-dc.org'; 'president-elect at apaba-dc.org'; 'secretary at apaba-dc.org'; 'dbinder at chapman.edu'; 'tpduane at ucsc.edu'; 'neildennis2004 at yahoo.com'; 'legal at adc.org'; 'lmokhiber at adc.org'; 'gaylaw at gaylaw.org'; 'dstern at equaljusticeworks.org'; 'omiller58 at comcast.net'; 'sampa1 at comcast.net'; 'goehl at law.edu'; 'gsf2 at law.georgetown.edu'; 'Ldelacruz at bakkerdelacruz.com'; 'j.a.areizaga at gmail.com'; 'Sarah E Ramirez (sramirez at hnba.com)'; 'careerservices at law.howard.edu'; 'dcoffice at indianlaw.org'; 'hpark at park-law.com'; 'tmatsuoka at napaba.org'; 'npatel at napaba.org'; 'dcheatham at nationalbar.org'; 'GWACbar at yahoo.com'; 'baumds at yahoo.com'; 'sabadc at sabadc.org'; 'president at sabadc.org'; 'vp at sabadc.org'; 'cdo at law.gwu.edu'; 'dbauman at udc.edu'; 'nnguyen at snlawfirm.com'; 'vabadc at gmail.com'; 'maiapham at gmail.com'; 'Elizabeth Kolbe'; 'center at azdisabilitylaw.org'; 'slabarre at labarrelaw.com'; 'cprentice at austin.rr.com'; 'chris at license.state.tx.us'; 'jsthom at comcast.net'; Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS); 'emtelk at optonline.net'; 'info at nod.org' Cc: Nichol, Allison (CRT); Ruisanchez, Alberto (CRT); Turner, Diane (CRT) Subject: OPENING: EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION As Special Counsel on Diversity Recruitment and Outreach for the United States Department of Justice, I would like to share with you and ask you to disseminate the following vacancy announcement for the position of trial attorney for Olmstead enforcement in our Civil Rights Division's Disability Rights Section located in Washington, D.C.. Justice seeks to attract, retain, and promote individuals of exceptional ability and talent from all walks of life. The work environment and atmosphere is open, diverse, collegial, and inclusive. There are active affinity groups for African-American; Asian-American; Hispanic; lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT); and Native American employees, which are open to all DOJ employees regardless of background. Justice fosters a work environment where people of all backgrounds and experiences may reach their full potential. Thank you for your help in disseminating this vacancy announcement. This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at: http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/attvacancies.html. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, DISABILITY RIGHTS SECTION TRIAL ATTORNEY, GS-14 ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER: 12-ATT-003 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD0C14.CDCC7420] About the Office: The U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division is seeking experienced attorneys for the position of Trial Attorney for Olmstead enforcement in the Disability Rights Section located in Washington, D.C. The Division is primarily responsible for enforcing federal statutes, regulations and executive orders that prohibit, among other things, unlawful discrimination in voting, education, employment, housing, police services, public accommodations and facilities, and federally funded and conducted programs. The Section enforces statutes that prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability. These statutes include the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the ADA Amendments Act, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, the Genetic Information Non-Discrimination Act, and portions of the Help America Vote Act, the Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act, and Executive Order 12250. The Section has enforcement, certification, regulatory, coordination, and technical assistance responsibilities. Who May Apply: Applications are being accepted from all qualified candidates. Number of Opportunities: 2 Application Period: Applications are being accepted from March 9, 2012 through 11:59 PM, March 30, 2012. Responsibilities and Opportunity Offered: Trial Attorneys in the Section enjoy a diverse practice throughout the country and are responsible for conducting complex pattern and practice investigations (negotiations and occasionally litigation of civil claims) under these statutes. The work primarily involves practice before federal district courts. Trial Attorneys are responsible for screening and developing new matters, and conducting investigations and litigation addressing all aspects of the Section's enforcement duties. Specifically, the core duties and responsibilities are to gather facts through a variety of sources, develop investigations, interview witnesses, conduct case law research, analyze data and evidence with major responsibility for electronic discovery, draft written recommendations for investigation and/or other specific enforcement action, litigate (including all pre-trial and litigation motions practice and discovery actions, including electronic discovery), and negotiate and monitor settlement agreements and consent decrees. As Trial Attorneys for Olmstead enforcement, the incumbents will be responsible for litigating to enforce civil rights for persons with disabilities residing in, or at risk of placement into, nursing homes, health care facilities, and large institutions under the ADA and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Duties include, but are not limited to: (1) conducting investigations, litigation, and negotiations regarding the Division's active Olmstead enforcement program; (2) working with senior managers to develop and establish policies, strategies and priorities for Olmstead enforcement; (3) working with team members to coordinate with other federal agencies to develop strategies for effective and efficient data sharing and case referrals; and (4) conducting selected outreach and training presentations. Required Qualifications: Applicants must possess a J.D. degree, be an active member of the bar in good standing (any jurisdiction), and have a minimum of two and one-half years of post-J.D. experience. Applicants must possess outstanding writing, editing, oral advocacy and organizational skills, solid research skills, and the ability to work cooperatively on a litigation team. Applicants must also be able to excel in a fast-paced, highly demanding environment. In addition, applicants must have knowledge and professional experience related to the ADA, the Rehabilitation Act, the Medicaid Act, and implementing regulations for those statutes. Preferred Qualifications: Given the nature and volume of this work, the following qualifications are preferred: (1) knowledge of state or local government systems for administering the Medicaid Act; (2) demonstrated commitment to public service and/or civil rights; (3) demonstrated skill in negotiation; and (4) significant litigation experience, including with complex electronic discovery. Salary Information: Current salary and years of specialized experience will determine the appropriate salary level within the GS-14 ($105,211 through $136,771.00 per annum). Final selection for these positions will be subject to budgetary funding constraints. Location: Washington, D.C. Relocation Expenses: Relocation expenses are not authorized. Travel: The position requires extended hours and may require some travel. Submission Process and Deadline Date: To apply, please submit a resume, cover letter and a writing sample (a brief or comparable analytic legal exposition that is your work product) by one of the two following means: Diane Turner Email: crd.attyvacancies at usdoj.gov or Fax: 202-514-6603 No telephone calls please. Internet Sites: This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/attvacancies.html. For more information about the Civil Rights Division, visit the Civil Rights Division's web page. Department Policies: The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination because of color, race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, marital status, disability (physical or mental), age, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, genetic information, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, on the basis of personal favoritism, or any non merit factor. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please notify the agency. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis. It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment. Employment is also contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation. Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis. There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting documents). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more). * * * The Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination are not an endorsement by the Department of the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information. Richard L. 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Name: image032.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 353 bytes Desc: image032.jpg URL: From dandrews at visi.com Thu Mar 29 02:57:25 2012 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:57:25 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] Message-ID: >From: "Reese" >Subject: [Blindtlk] Fw: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer > accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > >Please circulate this message where ever you feel its appropriate. > >----- Original Message ----- > >Hello list: > >Here's the final word from Spirit Airlines regarding there inaccessible >website. It will follow my final reply to them. Again the US Department of >Transportation has dropped the ball on this one just like they did with the >accessible airport boarding. > >Reese > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peachtreetravel.net" >To: "Spirit Airlines" >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible >using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > >Dear Michelle: > >First I want to thank you for researching this serious matter both for me >and all of the members of my Organization. Regretfully I'll have to inform >the 50,000 members of my organization to do business else where until Spirit >Airlines website is accessible once again. For this is the only way to >achieve fare and equal access. > >I will check back from time to time to see if true access ever returns to >spirit Airlines and will keep my members up to date. It has been good doing >business with you and hopefully we >can resume doing business again in the future. > >Sincerely yours, > >Maurice P Shackelford > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spirit Airlines" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:38 AM >Subject: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using >speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > > >Subject >--------------------------------------------------------------- >[Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech > > >Discussion Thread >--------------------------------------------------------------- > (Michelle 62611) - 03/27/2012 09:38 AM >Dear Mr. Shackelford, > >Thank you for your patience as we investigated this matter thoroughly. > >We sincerely regret that you are unable to access the check box for the $9 >Fare Club membership and or the check box at the end of the booking. >However, this is not a violation of DOT's disability rule. Please be advised >that airlines are governed under the Department of Transportation and their >disability rule, 14 CFR 382, and are under no legal obligation to provide an >accessible website. We are required, under 14 CFR 382.31(c), to disclose >web-based discount fares to any prospective passenger who contacts the >carrier via other normal channels for inquiring about fares, making a >reservation, or purchasing transportation (e.g. telephone reservation line, >airport ticket counter) and states that he or she has a visual impairment >and is unable to use the website. The carrier must sell a >web-based discount fare to such a person if his or her itinerary qualifies >for the fare as it is offered on the web (e.g., same cities and dates). > >Our IT Department has reviewed your claim and they have informed me that >they changed the boxes on our booking path to styled check boxes which don't >work in the browser types you've attempted to use. The change was made >nearly a year ago and this has been the first complaint brought to their >attention on the matter. They are reviewing options to allow these types of >browsers to work with the needed functionality for our customers with visual >impairments. > >I regret that I cannot offer more information on the matter, but thank you >for bringing this to our attention. > >Please note, if you ever encounter problems when traveling with us, feel >free to ask our Spirit Airlines customer service personnel for a Complaint >Resolution Official (CRO). Our CROs have been specially trained and are >aware of applicable Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of >Transportation (DOT) disability regulations. Our CROs are available at all >airport locations and will be glad to respond to your concerns. > >We trust we have addressed you concerns in a satisfactory manner; however, >if you choose to pursue enforcement action, you have the right to contact >the Department of Transportation, in accordance with ACAA and DOT rule 14 >CFR Part 382. > >Please feel free to contact me if you ever require assistance. We know you >have a choice in air travel and are grateful you choose Spirit Airlines. > >Sincerely, > >Michelle 62611 >Disability Specialist/ >Corporate Escalation Officer >Spirit Airlines From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Mar 29 11:47:14 2012 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: FW: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 Message-ID: <70cb1.3a378a6.3ca5a5c2@aol.com> Hi All, Below is a posting for a vacancy in my office at CMS. Please follow the instructions in the vacancy announcement. I have no role in the selection process, so please don't direct any questions or resumes to me. Thanks, Ronza ____________________________________ From: rothmanjd at gmail.com To: aznor99 at aol.com Sent: 3/29/2012 7:44:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: FW: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 ____________________________________ From: [DO NOT REPLY] [mailto:notifications at usajobs.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:33 AM To: rothmanjd at gmail.com Subject: USAJOBS Saved Search Results - 3/29/2012 Hello Ronza, Below you will find the results of your saved search EEO Specialist. _EEO Specialist_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/312807300) Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services Duty Locations: 1 vacancy(s) - Woodlawn,Maryland Salary: $89,033.00 to $115,742.00 / Per Year Series and Grade: GS-0260-13 Open Period: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 to Tuesday, April 10, 2012 Position Information: Permanent - Full-Time Who May Be Considered: United States Citizens You can make changes or create additional saved searches via the _Saved Searches_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/Applicant/SavedSearches/ListSavedSearches) section of your _USAJOBS_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/) account. This area is located by logging into your USAJOBS account and clicking Saved Searches. Your Search(es) will have an option to modify the criteria. Simply click the Edit hyperlink under the name of the Saved Search to make changes. Thank you for using USAJOBS! The USAJOBS Support Team Please do not reply to this message. Replies to this message are routed to an unmonitored mailbox. If you have questions or comments please go to _http://www.usajobs.gov/resourcecenter_ (http://www.usajobs.gov/resourcecenter) . From johnrsheehan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 15:52:29 2012 From: johnrsheehan at yahoo.com (John Sheehan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1333036349.33173.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The correspondence below has been brought to our attention. While it is true that your airline may be adhering to the "letter" of the law, despite the polite language, it rather avoids the spirit, ie trying to be as accommodating as possible to people who value their independence as they travel and pursue normal lives and activities. As I am sure your IT department can verify - and if they can't, you might want to explore expanding your IT staff - these are not difficult or costly changes to make.  We will be including a condensed version of this correspondence in our E-newsletter and we will certainly help spread the word among the blind community and those who support it that it would be best to explore alternative travel options. Certainly a number of other airlines have managed to include the blind community - and they will be the ones who get our business. Congratulations on being so successful that the large numbers of people involved in this issue aren't an audience of interest to you.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Chairman Xavier Society for the Blind Web Site: www.xaviersocietyfortheblind.org 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: David Andrews To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] >From: "Reese" >Subject: [Blindtlk] Fw: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer >        accessible using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > >Please circulate this message where ever you feel its appropriate. > >----- Original Message ----- > >Hello list: > >Here's the final word from Spirit Airlines regarding there inaccessible >website.  It will follow my final reply to them.  Again the US Department of >Transportation has dropped the ball on this one just like they did with the >accessible airport boarding. > >Reese > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peachtreetravel.net" >To: "Spirit Airlines" >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible >using speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > >Dear Michelle: > >First I want to thank you for researching this serious matter both for me >and all of the members of my Organization.  Regretfully I'll have to inform >the 50,000 members of my organization to do business else where until Spirit >Airlines website is accessible once again.  For this is the only way to >achieve fare and equal access. > >I will check back from time to time to see if true access ever returns to >spirit Airlines and will keep my members up to date.  It has been good doing >business with you and hopefully we >can resume doing business again in the future. > >Sincerely yours, > >Maurice P Shackelford > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spirit Airlines" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:38 AM >Subject: [Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using >speech [Incident: 120307-000422] > > > >Subject >--------------------------------------------------------------- >[Travelandtourism] Spirit Airlines is no longer accessible using speech > > >Discussion Thread >--------------------------------------------------------------- >  (Michelle 62611) - 03/27/2012 09:38 AM >Dear Mr. Shackelford, > >Thank you for your patience as we investigated this matter thoroughly. > >We sincerely regret that you are unable to access the check box for the $9 >Fare Club membership and or the check box at the end of the booking. >However, this is not a violation of DOT's disability rule. Please be advised >that airlines are governed under the Department of Transportation and their >disability rule, 14 CFR 382, and are under no legal obligation to provide an >accessible website. We are required, under 14 CFR 382.31(c), to disclose >web-based discount fares to any prospective passenger who contacts the >carrier via other normal channels for inquiring about fares, making a >reservation, or purchasing transportation (e.g. telephone reservation line, >airport ticket counter) and states that he or she has a visual impairment >and is unable to use the website. The carrier must sell a >web-based discount fare to such a person if his or her itinerary qualifies >for the fare as it is offered on the web (e.g., same cities and dates). > >Our IT Department has reviewed your claim and they have informed me that >they changed the boxes on our booking path to styled check boxes which don't >work in the browser types you've attempted to use. The change was made >nearly a year ago and this has been the first complaint brought to their >attention on the matter. They are reviewing options to allow these types of >browsers to work with the needed functionality for our customers with visual >impairments. > >I regret that I cannot offer more information on the matter, but thank you >for bringing this to our attention. > >Please note, if you ever encounter problems when traveling with us, feel >free to ask our Spirit Airlines customer service personnel for a Complaint >Resolution Official (CRO). Our CROs have been specially trained and are >aware of applicable Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of >Transportation (DOT) disability regulations. Our CROs are available at all >airport locations and will be glad to respond to your concerns. > >We trust we have addressed you concerns in a satisfactory manner; however, >if you choose to pursue enforcement action, you have the right to contact >the Department of Transportation, in accordance with ACAA and DOT rule 14 >CFR Part 382. > >Please feel free to contact me if you ever require assistance. We know you >have a choice in air travel and are grateful you choose Spirit Airlines. > >Sincerely, > >Michelle 62611 >Disability Specialist/ >Corporate Escalation Officer >Spirit Airlines _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yahoo.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 30 18:46:12 2012 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:46:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Investigation & Resolution Specialist job opening at the University of Washington In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EDAE530E@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341C3EDAE530E@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Link: https://uwhires.admin.washington.edu/eng/candidates/default.cfm?szCategory=jobprofile&szOrderID=82553&szCandidateID=0&szSearchWords=&szReturnToSearch=1 Text: INVESTIGATION & RESOLUTION SPECIALIST Req #: 82553 Department: OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT Job Location: Other Locations Job Location Detail: Roosevelt Commons Posting Date: 03/25/2012 Closing Info: Open Until Filled Salary: $5312-$5917 Notes: First consideration will be given to those candidates who apply by April 11, 2012 The University of Washington (UW) is proud to be one of the nation's premier educational and research institutions. Our people are the most important asset in our pursuit of achieving excellence in education, research, and community service. Our staff not only enjoys outstanding benefits and professional growth opportunities, but also an environment noted for diversity, community involvement, intellectual excitement, artistic pursuits, and natural beauty. The Office of Risk Management protects the University from the financial impact of unintentional loss. It provides services to all University schools, colleges, and administrative units in the areas of risk financing, workers' compensation, complaint investigation and resolution, risk consulting, claims management, and strategic loss control. The University Complaint Investigation and Resolution Office ("UCIRO") is a program within the Office of Risk Management. UCIRO typically investigates allegations that the conduct of a University employee has violated the University's non-discrimination policy, including allegations of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation. A UCIRO investigation may be requested by anyone with such a concern: staff, faculty, students, or members of the public. The administrative head of a University unit also may request that UCIRO conduct an institutional investigation. In all cases, the subject of the investigation must be a University employee. Our Office of Risk Management has an outstanding opportunity for an Investigation & Resolution Specialist. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist acts as a neutral and objective fact-finder under the procedures outlined in the University of Washington's Administrative Policy Statements, Section 46.3. Allegations investigated by this position include complaints of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation, as well as complex issues arising from such complaints relating to University policy or federal and state law. Under the general direction of the UCIRO Director, the Investigation and Resolution Specialist investigates and facilitates the resolution of alleged violations of the University's non-discrimination policy and corresponding federal and state laws according to program practices, procedures, and regulations. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist is a critical part of the risk management function at the University and its Medical Centers. The Investigation and Resolution Specialist analyzes pertinent complaint and resolution information in a meaningful, constructive way and utilizes that information as appropriate with those who have a business need to know to avoid, reduce, and mitigate risk. Duties and Responsibilities: * Investigates, evaluates and advises on potential exposure of risk associated with complaints which assert violations of University of Washington policies, including non-discrimination policies and related procedures, and, if accepted, complaints of policy violations for which there are no other established administrative processes available. Authors and disseminates summary investigation reports that include factual determinations and analysis. * Investigates, evaluates and advises on potential exposure of risk associated with externally filed complaints and charges against the University of Washington, including complaints of discrimination (e.g. Title VII, ADEA, ADA, etc.), retaliation, and harassment. Conducts investigations in accordance with state and federal laws, regulations and applicable case law. Provides agencies with responses and information that complies substantively and procedurally with agency standards. Monitors agency action until file closing and assists with implementation of compliance agreements. * Participates in external agency fact-finding and mediation conferences as necessary. Prepares witnesses for interviews with administrative agencies conducting on-site investigations. * Communicates and coordinates with University departments, Human Resources representatives and Assistant Attorneys General and administrative personnel as appropriate in handling complaints and issues related thereto. * Partners with departments, Human Resources representatives and Assistant Attorneys General regarding early dispute intervention and resolution. * Leads cross-departmental resolution teams in devising, refining and implementing appropriate and creative approaches to dispute resolution, unit training, discipline and related management efforts. * Assists in developing University responses to requests for information from federal and state agencies. * Negotiates settlements within delegated authority; obtains authority in excess of delegation, as appropriate and when necessary. * Executes settlement agreements. * Maintains data consistent with data integrity standards at UCIRO and within Risk Management. As a UW employee, you will enjoy generous benefits and work/life programs. For a complete description of our benefits for this position, please visit our website, click here. Requirements: Juris Doctorate degree AND two years of experience in employment law or workplace investigations * Excellent interpersonal and communication skills * Ability to work effectively both independently and as a member of a team * Excellent writing skills * Basic word processing skills Equivalent education/experience will substitute for all minimum qualifications except when there are legal requirements, such as a license/certification/registration. Desired: * Knowledge of federal and state employment law * Experience representing employers to enforcement agencies, such as the EEOC or the Washington State Human Rights Commission * Knowledge of dispute resolution techniques * Ability to effectively and efficiently use computer systems and databases, including Windows-based software Condition of Employment: A satisfactory outcome from criminal background verification is required prior to hire. Application Process Part of the application process for this position includes completing an online cover letter assessment, as well as the Employment Eligibility Assessment to obtain additional information that will be used in the evaluation process. The assessment(s) will appear on your screen for you to complete as soon as you select "Apply to this Position" on this job announcement. Once you begin the assessment, it must be completed at that time. If you select to take it later, it will appear on your "My Jobs" page to take when you are ready. Please note that your application will not be reviewed and you will not be considered for this position until the assessment is complete. [cid:image003.png at 01CD0E69.52253EE0]The University of Washington is a leader in environmental stewardship & sustainability, and committed to becoming climate neutral. The University of Washington is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer. To request disability accommodation in the application process, contact the Disability Services Office at 206-543-6450 / 206-543-6452 (tty) or dso at uw.edu. Apply for this job -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:05 PM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] Office of Disability Employment Policy (ODEP) Seeking Deputy Washington D.C. > >Job Opportunity > >Job Title: Deputy Assistant Secretary >Department:Department Of Labor >Agency:Office of Disability Employment Policy Job Announcement >Number:DOL-SES-ODEP-12-08 SALARY RANGE: > >$119,554.00 to $179,700.00 / Per Year > >OPEN PERIOD: > >Wednesday, March 28, 2012 to Saturday, April 28, 2012 > >SERIES & GRADE: > >ES-0301-00 > >POSITION INFORMATION: > >Full-Time - Permanent > > > >DUTY LOCATIONS: > >1 vacancy(s) in the following locations: >Washington, DC, USView >Map > >WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: > >Open to all groups of qualified candidates. SES Candidate Development >Program graduates with noncompetitive eligibility may apply for >noncompetitive consideration for this position. > >JOB SUMMARY: >Opportunities are Open! Begin a challenging career with the U.S. >Department of Labor (DOL), and you will help shape the workforce of >tomorrow. DOL offers rewarding opportunities to contribute to a noble >mission; to serve and protect American workers, prepare them for new >and better jobs, and to ensure the safety and fairness of American >workplaces. >The Office of Disability Employment Policy (ODEP) is responsible for >creating and implementing national policy, and providing information >that improves employment opportunities for people with disabilities. >ODEP's Assistant Secretary directs the overall organization and is the >principal advisor to the Secretary of Labor on all disability >employment policy. >KEY REQUIREMENTS > > > * Subject to a security background investigation. > * Subject to financial disclosure requirements. > * Must complete 1 year SES probationary period, if not > previously completed. > * Subject to drug test prior to and during appointment. > >________________________________ >DUTIES: >Back to >top >The Deputy Assistant Secretary serves as the principal advisor to the >Assistant Secretary of the Office of Disability Employment Policy >(ODEP),on issues and policies related to ODEP's mission, and provides >general operational management of the organization through coordination >of the agency's administrative, budget, and policy-making activities. >In addition, the incumbent is also responsible, but not limited to, the >following duties and >responsibilities: provides executive leadership to ensure the >coordination and development of cross-cutting policies and effective >practices to improve employment opportunities for people with >disabilities; participates with the Assistant Secretary and other key >Government, Department of Labor (DOL), and ODEP officials in >formulating and developing policies, objectives, strategic plans, >budgets, and goals to ensure the agency provides national leadership to >increase employment opportunities for people with disabilities; >coordinates disability-related policies, programs and activities of >ODEP with related Federal programs (including the Access Board; the >Committee for Purchase from People who are Blind or Severely Disabled; >Departments of Education, Health and Human Services, Transportation, >and Veterans Affairs; the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission; the >National Council on Disability; the Office of Personnel Management; and >the Social Security Administration.); and promotes the implementation >and adoption of policies and effective practices that encourages the >full inclusion of people with disabilities in the American workforce by >engaging and collaborating with stakeholders in both the public and >private sectors. >________________________________ >QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: >Back to >top >Candidates must possess technical and management experience and have >developed the knowledge and skills required for effective performance >of the specific duties of the position. Candidates must have had >experience at a major management level (normally equivalent to the >GS-15 level in the federal service). All applicants MUST separately >address each of the Mandatory Technical Qualifications >(MTQs) and Executive Core Qualifications (ECQs) when applying on line. >Responses to ECQs MUST not exceed 10 pages. For additional guidance, >applicants may visit the Office Of Personnel Management's Guide to >Senior Executive Service Qualifications located at >www.opm.gov/ses/references/GuidetoSESQuals_2010.pdf. Applicants are >encouraged to follow the Challenge, Context, Action, and Result model >outlined in the guide. Current/Former Career SES or SES Candidate >Development Program graduates who have been certified by OPM MUST >address the MTQ's, but need not address the ECQs. In order to >successfully complete the online application process you MUST input the >term, "noncompetitive eligible" in the text boxes for each of the ECQs. >You MUST submit a Standard Form 50 that documents your SES Career >appointment or a copy of your OPM approved SES Candidate Development >Program certificate. >EXECUTIVE CORE QUALIFICATIONS (ECQs): 1. Leading Change: This core >qualification involves the ability to bring about strategic change, >both within and outside the organization, to meet organizational goals. >Inherent to this ECQ is the ability to establish an organizational >vision and to implement it in a continuously changing environment. 2. >Leading People: This core qualification involves the ability to lead >people toward meeting the organization's vision, mission, and goals. >Inherent to this ECQ is the ability to provide an inclusive workplace >that fosters the development of others, facilitates cooperation and >teamwork, and supports constructive resolution of conflicts. 3. Results >Driven: This core qualification involves the ability to meet >organizational goals and customer expectations. Inherent to this ECQ is >the ability to make decisions that produce high-quality results by >applying technical knowledge, analyzing problems, and calculating >risks. 4. Business Acumen: This core qualification involves the ability >to manage human, financial, and information resources strategically. 5. >Building Coalitions: >This core qualification involves the ability to build coalitions >internally and with other Federal agencies, State and local >governments, nonprofit and private sector organizations, foreign >governments, or international organizations to achieve common goals. >MANDATORY TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS (MTQs): In addition to the ECQs above, >qualified applicants must possess the following four (4) technical >qualifications which represent the experience required to perform the >duties of this position. Proficiency in these technical qualifications >MUST be clearly evident in your resume. MTQs include: >1. Demonstrated knowledge and experience in management of an >organization, including human resources, budget, procurement, and >internal control matters. 2. Strong experience leading the analysis of >highly technical, complex and sensitive disability employment policy >issues, as well as implementing programs, initiatives or strategies >resulting from this analysis. 3. Demonstrated skill in communications >at high levels in an organization, and experience in obtaining support >for projects and program opportunities for people with disabilities. 4. >Expert knowledge of legislative, political, economic and civil rights >issues impacting people with disabilities. > >The Department of Labor does not recognize academic degrees from >schools that are not accredited by an accrediting institution >recognized by the Department of Education. Any applicant falsely >claiming an academic degree from an accredited school will be subject >to actions ranging from disqualification from federal employment to >removal from federal service. > >HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED: >Candidates will be evaluated based upon their qualifications. In >addition, applicants will be evaluated based upon their responses to >the Mandatory Technical Qualifications (MTQs) and Executive Core >Qualifications (ECQs). >To preview questions please click >here. >________________________________ >BENEFITS: >Back to >top >The Department of Labor (DOL) offers a great benefit package to >eligible employees. The benefit package includes but is not limited to >health benefits, supplemental dental and vision plans, and flexible >spending accounts. We offer a variety of employee benefit options, a >family-friendly work environment, transit subsidy program, career >assistance program, health services and fitness programs, access to >LifeCare, a resource and referral service and more. Members of the >Senior Executive Service accrue eight (8) hours of annual leave and >four (4) hours of sick leave per pay period. For a comprehensive site >about all federal benefits, please refer to >OPM. >For specific DOL benefits information, please refer to DOL >BENEFITS. >OTHER INFORMATION: >________________________________ >HOW TO APPLY: >Back to >top >Follow the 5 steps below to apply online to a Department of Labor >(DOL) vacancy. Your application and ALL required supplemental documents >must be received by 11:59 pm Eastern Time (ET) on the vacancy closing >date to be considered. Paper applications and supplemental documents >submitted in any other manner without prior approval from the vacancy >contact will not be considered. For more details, reference How To >Apply Detailed >Instructions. >For help, refer to the Vacancy Contact on the announcement in the >"Questions about this job" section. Save your information before the >60 MINUTE TIMEOUT or risk losing your information! STEP 1 - Create >USAJOBS Account, including Resume and Saved Documents It is essential >that your application provide sufficient information to substantiate >your responses to the MTQs and ECQs listed in the vacancy announcement. >STEP 2 - Answer Vacancy Questions (DOORS) Click the Apply Online >button, which is available when you search for a job on >www.usajobs.gov, click on the title and proceed. STEP 3 >- Submit Supplemental Documents Submit the required documents (only if >applicable to you) specified in the "Required Documents" section of >this vacancy. For details: click How to Submit Supplemental >Documentation. >If you submit a document using the same document title, the 2nd >submission will OVERWRITE the 1st submission. To avoid this, submit >documents (ex. undergraduate and graduate degree transcripts) as one >document. STEP 4 - Review Application and click Finish STEP 5 - Edit >Application as needed by 11:59 pm ET of Close Date REQUIRED DOCUMENTS: >1. SF-50 documentation of career SES appointment or other Federal >appointment (if applicable) 2. Certificate of completion of OPM >certified SES candidate program (if applicable) 3. Copy of most recent >performance appraisal (optional) AGENCY CONTACT INFO: >Michelle Hudson >Phone: 202-693-7800 >Fax: 202-693-7705 >TDD: 202-693-7758 >Email: hudson.michelle.j at dol.gov >Agency Information: >Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy >200 Constitution Ave., NW >N-2453 >Washington, DC >20210 >US >Fax: 202-693-7705 >WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT: >The Office of Executive Resources will review all applications to >determine if applicants meet the mandatory technical qualifications of >this position and the SES ECQs. Those who meet the qualifications will >be referred to a panel of SES members for rating and ranking to >determine the "best qualified" candidates. The panel will make a >recommendation to the selecting official about the top candidates that >he/she should interview. Once a selection is made, the selectee's >application will be forwarded to the Office of Personnel Management >(OPM) for approval by an OPM independent Qualifications Review Board, >unless the selectee is a current SES executive or has successfully >participated in an OPM approved SES Candidate Development Program. To >check the status of your application: Click >here. >To sign up for Application Status Updates via email: Click >Here. _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From bspiry at comcast.net Sat Mar 31 07:41:08 2012 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:41:08 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02dd01cd0f11$a348a480$e9d9ed80$@comcast.net> Apples BT keyboard works very well with the iPhone and the iPad. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:56 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notetakers I have a really difficult time typing On the I devices. Does anyone have any suggestions Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:17 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notetakers Hello John, Though there's always a fair bit of subjectivity to such an evaluation, you seem to have struck upon some of the same points that have restrained me from making the leap to using an iPhone or iPad in court situations. I really like the accessibility features of IS devices, but I still find the Apex's combination of Braille and a hardware keyboard to be the most elegant solution at present. Apex support of USB drives and SDHC cards also make it really simple to transfer documents from remote storage, so you can treat it just like any other computer. They may not weigh much alone, but an iPad, Braille display and keyboard add up to far more than the Apex, require independent charging and are dependent on all components to work. And while far from perfect, the Apex keyboard feels luxurious compared to a virtual equivalent. That's just my opinion and there's nothing to say it won't change tomorrow, but that's how i see it for now. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. (916) 572-2737 agtolentino at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:45, John Gardner wrote: > So guys I think I have gotten enough information on what notetakers you guys use. I think I will go with the Braillenote apex. Here are my reasons. The I devices are in too parts. It's the device and the Braille display. I need something that is one unit. Also the apex turns on faster and I like that. The idevices are not as efficient either and I can't have that. Also a notetaker would be less to carry and keep track of. It's also not very heavy as a iPad and Braille display would be. Are these bad reasons? What do you guys think? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et From thebluesisloose at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 07:48:19 2012 From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:48:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Notetakers Message-ID: <4f76b6f7.a7203c0a.29a9.335c@mx.google.com> I have a Qwerty keyboard straight from the apple store that works well on my iPod. Forget the phone, it's really expensive! lol Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Spiry" wrote: So guys I think I have gotten enough information on what notetakers you guys use. I think I will go with the Braillenote apex. Here are my reasons. The I devices are in too parts. It's the device and the Braille display. I need something that is one unit. Also the apex turns on faster and I like that. The idevices are not as efficient either and I can't have that. Also a notetaker would be less to carry and keep track of. It's also not very heavy as a iPad and Braille display would be. Are these bad reasons? What do you guys think? 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