[blindlaw] Portable devices
Daniel K. Beitz
dbeitz at wiennergould.com
Fri Mar 9 18:39:56 UTC 2012
The iPad is similar to the iPhone. For typing I would agree, the laptop is
way better, although some of the advantages of a laptop may be overcome on
an iPhone by using a Bluetooth keyboard. I meant that the iPad/iPhone/iPod
is great for pleasure reading of purchased eBooks in protected epub format
and audio books. If Apple ever made iBook's readable on the MacBook, I
would use that instead of an iPod.
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Paul Sullivan
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices
I have an iPhone, and for the basics (e-mail, texts, web) it is fantastic.
However, the thought of using it to compose/edit long documents or conduct
in depth research, etc, makes me cringe. The technique of moving your
finger over text, which is often placed on the screen in not easily findable
or in a coherent order is very cumbersome. I may not be using it too it's
fullest capacity, and I have never used an iPad, so I don't know if
navigating that device is any different, but in terms of ease-of-use and
speed, my laptop is way, way more effective.
Paul Sullivan
On 3/9/12, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:15:08 -0800, Aser Tolentino wrote:
>
>>There are a few accessible apps that can read PDFs, not least of which
>>is Apple's own iBooks. The
> Kindle app's interface is accessible, but books are not; this is the
> case with many ebook and PDF viewers. I also ran into an app called
> VoiceReader, which can import PDF's and allow you to navigate the text
> fairly well; it can also generate its own text-to-speech independent
> of the operating system screen reader much like the GhostReader
> program on the Mac.
>
>>Respectfully,
>>Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>
>>On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Daniel K. Beitz"
>><dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and
>>> presumably amazon books as well. Other devices and programs can
>>> read books in epub format, but not protected formats.
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices
>>>
>>> Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and
>>> also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and
>>> such? I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been
>>> addressed to some extent on newer devices.
>>>
>>> When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one
>>> should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House
>>> for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar
>>> device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever
>>> it is called. I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the
>>> best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I
>>> know that the Apple devices are very nice. I did not have a good
>>> experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting
>>> better. HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much
>>> bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no
>>> CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight.
>>> The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a
>>> bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is
>>> something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the
>>> BookSense can't do. The choice just isn't that simple, though. It
>>> depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds
>>> of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does
>>> editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth.
>>> Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the
>>> internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network
>>> coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi
>>> coverage. The Booksense and the Stream must get their information
>>> through a connection to a computer.
>>> How else can I confuse the issue?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a book sense, and it was nice. But devices like this are
>>>> very expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything
>>>> close to the functionality of an iPod touch. I use an IPad for my
>>>> personal reading
>>> needs
>>>> now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format
>>>> plus any book on the Itunes library is also accessible. The iPhone
>>>> has a decent speaker as well, better than book sense. The apple
>>>> portable products are worth learning.
>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM
>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices
>>>
>>>> Randy,
>>>
>>>> Thanks much. Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is
>>>> the Book Sense. I will look into it.
>>>
>>>> Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone.
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Farber, Randy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices
>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>> I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device. It is slightly
>>>> more expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more.
>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Andrew Webb
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic
>>>> device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the
>>>> go. The piece
>>> I'm
>>>> envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out
>>>> just about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working
>>>> around the house,
>>> sitting
>>>> at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc. I could
>>>> use it
>>> to
>>>> download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other
>>>> documents in a variety of digital formats. I'd like to be able to
>>>> easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and
>>>> review, and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of
>>>> text.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly
>>>> wisdom, anyone can suggest a device along these lines? It has come
>>>> to my attention that the Victor Reader Stream might be an apt
>>>> choice, but I wondered if there might be some other good
>>>> possibilities out there.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Many thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>
>>>> Andrew Webb
>>>
>>>>
>>>
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