[blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)

Mike Fry mikefry79 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 21 06:06:41 UTC 2012 

Patti,

Would you please elaborate on your answer?  You are the first and only person that I've seen on this list claim to know someone that is blind that has used schedule A to obtain a job as a federal attorney.  You say you know several people that have done this.  Would you tell us more.  What departments hired them?  Were they hired out of law school or lateral hires?  Who was their schedule a coordinator? 

Mike

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On Oct 19, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Patti Chang <pattichang at att.net> wrote:

> I do know of several.
> 
> p.s. give to our annual appeal by sending to NFBI c/o glenn Moore po box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121.
> 
> Patti S. Gregory-Chang
> NFBI President 
> NFB, Scholarship Committee Chair
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> On Oct 19, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "William T. Miller" <william_t_miller at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds familiar. I don't feel entitled to noncompetitive status, but please
>> spare me the dangling carrot. I'm curious to know if anyone on the list is
>> aware of any Schedule A success stories -- I'd love to find out that my
>> skepticism regarding the program is unwarranted.
>> 
>> Will Miller
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alcidonis Law Office [mailto:attorney at alcidonislaw.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:13 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>> 
>> As I said, it is just a joke. Long ago I stopped wasting my time with 
>> so-called schedule A coordinators. One of them pretty much admitted to me: 
>> "I don't think I am still the coordinator though." Really? And your name is 
>> on the government's website?
>> 
>> I also don't see what the heck they are coordinating if they have applicants
>> 
>> send resume to their attentions and the applicant just never receives even 
>> an acknowledgement of receipt.
>> 
>> 
>> Rod
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Deepa Goraya
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:49 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>> 
>> Many Schedule A coordinators don't even return calls or emails. I have tried
>> contacting some of them.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alcidonis
>> Law Office
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:25 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>> 
>> Some of the schedule A coordinators don't even know they hold that title.
>> The whole thing is a joke.
>> 
>> 
>> Rod
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Angie Matney
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:41 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>> 
>> Hello Will:
>> 
>> Jobs filled through schedule a do not have to be (but may be) advertized. I
>> guess you could contact the agency you're interested in and see if there are
>> openings. This page has more information:
>> 
>> http://www.opm.gov/disability/mngr_3-13.asp
>> 
>> I don't know how well this theoretically great program works in practice.
>> 
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/18/12, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Will:
>>> 
>>> Not only do I find the Schedule A Federal program somewhat suspect, I
>>> am curious about the complete absence of Schedule A type programs at
>>> the state and local levels.
>>> 
>>> I have been practicing criminal law for 29 years; 3 years as a
>>> prosecutor and the remainder in defense.  The local DA's office is
>>> quite familiar with me and my abilities.  However, my efforts to gain
>>> employment with them do not receive the time of day.  I have no doubt
>>> but that their stated EEOC policy is mere form lacking any substance.
>>> 
>>> I cannot agree more with the posts entered since Ross' apology.
>>> 
>>> Dan McBride, Attorney
>>> Fort Worth, Texas
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> William T.
>>> Miller
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:41 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>>> 
>>> Theoretically there is a process similar to the "binders" mentioned in
>>> the last presidential debate: Schedule A. I'm curious if this list
>>> feels that schedule A is an effective process? My understanding of
>>> Schedule A is that disabled candidates for federal positions can post
>>> for jobs before they are posted publicly and, if qualified, the hiring
>>> manager may hire them noncompetitively. However, I don't understand
>>> how disabled job candidates are supposed to know of potential jobs
>>> before they are posted to the public.
>>> If disabled candidates have no way of knowing what Schedule A
>>> opportunities exists, then how can he or she take advantage of the
>>> program? I'm definitely no expert on this topic, so if anyone on the
>>> list can correct me and explain how one applies for a specific
>>> position as a Schedule A candidate, please enlighten me.
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Will Miller
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Daniel K. Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:54 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Question" Posting
>>> 
>>> I didn't see anything wrong with the post.
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross
>>> Doerr
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:45 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] "Question" Posting
>>> 
>>> Hello List:
>>> 
>>> I am the one who posted the "question" about why disabled job seekers
>>> aren't being asked for binders full of their resumes to get more of
>>> "us" into the workplace. It was my blatant reference to a comment made
>>> during the presidential debate.
>>> 
>>> In view of the on list and off list reprimands I have received about
>>> the posting, I feel that I should go onto the list and apologize for
>>> posting what is, as it has been pointed out to me repeatedly, an off
>>> topic message.
>>> 
>>> I had thought that, in view of the underlying unemployment  issues
>>> that face those of us on the list, and those of us who regularly post
>>> job listings, such as myself and Noel Nightengale, that an idea to
>>> improve the employment situation would be net with some positive
>>> thought provocation.
>>> 
>>> Since I was wrong, I apologize to the list as a whole for my off
>>> topic posting. It will not happen again.
>>> 
>>> Ross A. Doerr Attorney at law
>>> 
>>> 
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