From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 21:21:39 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:21:39 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar
In-Reply-To: <00c901ce2cec$c939b770$5bad2650$@gmail.com>
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Hi Ronza,

Thank you and all the guests for that presentation.  It was awesome.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 29, 2013, at 7:17 PM, "Ronza Othman" <rothmanjd at gmail.com> wrote:

> We're trying to work out the technology and will let you know if it's
> available.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathryn
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:28 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar
> 
> All:
> 
> I would also appreciate a recording or notes of the teleconference as I
> registered, but could not attend.
> C Bonnette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa
> Goraya
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:25 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if the blind justice seminar phohne call on Monday was
> recorded, or if any notes or minutes were taken? I wasn't able to make  the
> call and I really would like to know what was discussed.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Deepa
> 
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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Tue Apr  2 13:55:24 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:55:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: "Go Abroad with a Disability, Find Your Career Path"
In-Reply-To: <19B899BD3501D846AD62D3F087E8588108F0A7CF@BL2PRD0810MB373.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <19B899BD3501D846AD62D3F087E8588108F0A7CF@BL2PRD0810MB373.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
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From: Joan Durocher [mailto:JDurocher at ncd.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:01 AM
To: Joan Durocher
Subject: "Go Abroad with a Disability, Find Your Career Path"

Forwarded from MIUSA:

Dear colleagues, please invite your networks of youth, college students, young adults in transition, and others with disabilities to attend this free online event from MIUSA. Disability organizations and professionals are welcome to join us as well! I have included a sample newsletter announcement, Tweets, and Facebook posts you may wish to use. Thank you!

Ashley Bryant
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
www.miusa.org/ncde<http://www.miusa.org/ncde>


[Title:   - Description: Photo collage of young people with physical and sensory disabilities during their travels.]Sample Newsletter/e-news announcement:

"Go Abroad with a Disability, Find Your Career Path"
Thursday, April 25, 2013, 4-5 pm Eastern Time (1-2 pm Pacific Time)

Going abroad is an excellent opportunity to travel and explore other cultures, but have you ever wondered how it can help you stand out to future employers or launch your career?

In this free webinar, presenters with diverse disabilities describe how their experiences studying, volunteering, and working abroad made a positive impact on their career paths. Staff from Mobility International USA (MIUSA) will share tips for how young people with disabilities can take the first steps towards exploring international exchange as an option for them!

Live captioning and ASL interpreting will be provided. Other reasonable accommodations provided upon request with advance notice.

Sign up here: http://www.miusa.org/ncde/goingabroad/careerwebinar

Sample Facebook posts:

Going abroad is an excellent opportunity to travel and explore other cultures, but have you ever wondered how it can help you stand out to future employers or launch your career? http://ow.ly/jzRPB

Join a webinar to meet people with disabilities who have turned their experiences studying, volunteering, and working abroad into career opportunities! http://ow.ly/jzRPB

Get tips and advice for going abroad with a disability from travelers with disabilities and @Mobility International USA. http://ow.ly/jzRPB

Going abroad provides unique opportunities to develop personal and professional skills. Join a webinar to learn how people with disabilities can benefit professionally from international exchange.  http://ow.ly/jzRPB

Sample Twitter posts:

How to translate your #studyabroad experience into a #job! From @MobilityINTL http://ow.ly/jzRPB
#studyabroad led to careers for these ppl with #disabilities. Ask them q's in a live webinar @MobilityINTL http://ow.ly/jzRPB
Go abroad with a #disability, launch your career! Attend a webinar with @MobilityINTL to get started. http://ow.ly/jzRPB
Study or volunteer abroad is a real option for people with #disabilities. Meet ppl who made it happen. @MobilityINTL  http://ow.ly/jzRPB



Ashley Bryant
Project Coordinator
Mobility International USA
National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange
132 E. Broadway, Suite 343
Eugene, OR 97401
Tel (541) 343-1284 ext. 18
Fax (541) 343-6812
abryant at miusa.org<mailto:abryant at miusa.org>
www.miusa.org/ncde<http://www.miusa.org/ncde>
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[Description: Twitter]<https://us1.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns/wizard/www.twitter.com/mobilityintl>Follow us on Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/mobilityintl>
[Description: Facebook]<http://www.facebook.com/mobility.international>Find us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/mobility.international>
The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange (NCDE) provides free information and referral services related to the participation of people with disabilities in international exchange programs.

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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Tue Apr  2 14:40:40 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:40:40 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] First Dinner Forum: 7 April -- Final Reminder
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1490CFB6@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:


This is to remind you of the first in the Repast and Repartee Series of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, occurring this forthcoming Sunday night in Annapolis, at Gordon Biersch Restaurant. The 2013 dinner forums are hosted in partnership with the Museum of Maritime Pets, a good friend and partner to the Lyceum and of dogs in general. The dinner forum, which starts at 4:30 P.M., will discuss: partnering veterans with assistance dogs and companion dogs. This will be a night of good friends and good food.
Registrations are still being accepted. Discounts are available to students and to veterans. For more information, do consult: www.museumofmaritimepets.org<http://www.museumofmaritimepets.org> or Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. at (410) 241-6745.

From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue Apr  2 14:55:42 2013
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:55:42 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: National Federation of the Blind Applauds DOJ Motion
	to Intervene in Sheltered Workshop Case
In-Reply-To: <4C785AE92339A84D80E58139B523D98535B5CE8E@CH1PRD0711MB431.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <4C785AE92339A84D80E58139B523D98535B5CE8E@CH1PRD0711MB431.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <017001ce2fb2$2639a800$72acf800$@labarrelaw.com>

fyi

 

From: Freeh, Jessica [mailto:JFreeh at nfb.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:16 AM
Subject: National Federation of the Blind Applauds DOJ Motion to Intervene
in Sheltered Workshop Case

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 

CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

 <mailto:Cdanielsen at nfb.org> Cdanielsen at nfb.org 

 

 

National Federation of the Blind Applauds DOJ Motion
to Intervene in Sheltered Workshop Case

Baltimore, Maryland (April 2, 2013): The National Federation of the Blind
<http://www.nfb.org/>  today applauded the United States Department of
Justice's motion to intervene in the pending class action lawsuit Lane v.
Kitzhaber
<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP
TIwMTMwMzI5LjE3MjA1OTUxJm1lc3NhZ2VpZD1NREItUFJELUJVTC0yMDEzMDMyOS4xNzIwNTk1M
SZkYXRhYmFzZWlkPTEwMDEmc2VyaWFsPTE3NDc5NzgzJmVtYWlsaWQ9Y2hhbnNzZW5zQGhpdmxhd
2FuZHBvbGljeS5vcmcmdXNlcmlkPWNoYW5zc2Vuc0BoaXZsYXdhbmRwb2xpY3kub3JnJmZsPSZle
HRyYT1NdWx0aXZhcmlhdGVJZD0mJiY=&&&100&&&http://www.ada.gov/olmstead/olmstead
_cases_list2.htm#lane> , No. 12-cv-138 (D. Or.). The United States'
complaint in intervention alleges that the state of Oregon has violated
Title II of the ADA and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act by
unnecessarily segregating thousands of individuals with intellectual and
developmental disabilities in sheltered workshops, and by placing them at
risk of such segregation, when they could be working in integrated
employment settings with appropriate supports and services, such as
supported employment. 

Dr. Marc Maurer <http://www.nfb.org/marc-maurer-bio> , President of the
National Federation of the Blind <http://www.twitter.com/NFB_voice> , said:
"The National Federation of the Blind supports efforts to integrate more
Americans with disabilities into competitive, integrated employment settings
and to ensure that youth who are blind or who have other disabilities are
not unnecessarily tracked into sheltered workshops, many of which pay their
workers significantly less than federal or state minimum wages.  We
therefore applaud the United States Department of Justice for moving to
intervene in this potentially groundbreaking litigation."

The National Federation of the Blind needs your support to ensure that blind
children get an equal education, to connect blind veterans with the training
and services they need, and to help seniors who are losing vision continue
to live independent and fulfilling lives. To make a donation, please go to
www.nfb.org.

 

###

 

 

About the National Federation of the Blind


The National Federation of the Blind (NFB) is the oldest, largest, and most
influential nationwide membership organization of blind people in the United
States.  Founded in 1940, the NFB advocates for the civil rights and
equality of blind Americans, and develops innovative education, technology,
and training programs to provide the blind and those who are losing vision
with the tools they need to become independent and successful.  We need your
support.  To make a donation, please go to  <http://www.nfb.org/>
www.nfb.org.

 

 

                

 

 

 


From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV  Tue Apr  2 18:29:12 2013
From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR))
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:29:12 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Vacancy posted to USAJOBS
Message-ID: <FC3590EE5FEF7842ABCCFBE0C22F24FA02E688@HH-EMSMB15.ees.hhs.gov>

Below is a job announcement from the Office for Civil Rights, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

/s/

Bennett Prows

The following vacancy announcement has been posted to USA Jobs.



Vacancy Information:
Position:  Health Information Privacy Specialist GS-301-9/11/12
Vacancy Announcement Number:  (MP) - HHS-OCR-MP-13-867352  (DE) -HHS-OCR-DE-13-867248

Opening Date; April 2, 2013



Closing Date: April 15, 2013
:
Vacancy Link:  MP:  http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/340712800

Vacancy Link: DE:: http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/340712900

Job Title: Health Information Privacy Specialist
Department: Department Of Health And Human Services
Agency: Office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services
Job Announcement Number: HHS-OCR-DE-13-867248
SALARY RANGE:

$51,630.00 to $97,333.00 / Per Year

OPEN PERIOD:

Tuesday, April 02, 2013 to Monday, April 15, 2013

SERIES & GRADE:

GS-0301-09/12

POSITION INFORMATION:

Full Time - Permanent

PROMOTION POTENTIAL:
12

DUTY LOCATIONS:

3 vacancies in the following location:
Washington DC, DC United States

WHO MAY APPLY:

United States Citizens






From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Apr  2 19:24:28 2013
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:24:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Public in New York State
References: <CA+3U9s79Ldv-g1XCa3RB59cyHj4R7DFjMhm13sTH5XUJxTMRFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<7E1E10B2D7B647C9AFD7F73E4E7CB6F1@barney03>
Message-ID: <EBA3608CFAD541E8859D08DAD0C5D2E6@victory2>

Dear Mr. Langlois:

Please permit me to ask you a question or two.  As a blind individual, what 
methods do you use for verifying peoples' signatures prior to affixing the 
notary public stamp?

Much thanks for any enlightenment or learning I shall derive from your 
response.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Wed Apr  3 17:13:20 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:13:20 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] ADR Section Dinner, 2 May
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1490DA31@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:



I am writing as the in-coming Treasurer of the Alternative Dispute Resolution Section to encourage your attendance. In addition, the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, which Josh and I have co-founded, as an emerging leader in the Maryland ADR community, does encourage you to attend. As such, this is to encourage you to consider attending the below stated.


At bottom, Pilot (bene cane) and I will attend the dinner, starting at 6:30 P.M. If you are a good friend of mine, then we will secure a table or tables, as the case might be, for ourselves - the best one in the house as it has Pilot. Registrations may be made via www.msba.org<http://www.msba.org> or, as I imagine, via telephone. Due to the great work of our board, a notable speaker has been secured for the day-long training and for the dinner. Do share this with your network.


Adappo,
Gary


Lessons From Poe - Detecting The Inner Mediator
featuring Stephanie West Allen
Day-Long Training & Dinner Event
Thursday, May 2, 2013
Training: 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
Dinner: 6:30 pm - 9:00 pm
Westminster Hall - Site of the Edgar Allen Poe Crypt, 519 Fayette St., Baltimore, MD
Register by April 1 to receive a discount!
Register Online<https://www.msba.org/Forms/event/adrspringevent050213.asp>






From mgmckay1963 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  3 17:35:36 2013
From: mgmckay1963 at gmail.com (Michael G McKay)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:35:36 -0300
Subject: [blindlaw] ADR Section Dinner, 2 May
In-Reply-To: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1490DA31@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>
References: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1490DA31@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>
Message-ID: <D4471346-63BA-4F27-8D6D-582A9B66E901@gmail.com>

Will you please invert all email addresses in your Bcc edit field when posting to the list. It takes too much time to get to the message.

Thanks!
Michael G. McKay

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-03, at 14:13, "Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)" <Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> 
> 
> I am writing as the in-coming Treasurer of the Alternative Dispute Resolution Section to encourage your attendance. In addition, the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, which Josh and I have co-founded, as an emerging leader in the Maryland ADR community, does encourage you to attend. As such, this is to encourage you to consider attending the below stated.
> 
> 
> At bottom, Pilot (bene cane) and I will attend the dinner, starting at 6:30 P.M. If you are a good friend of mine, then we will secure a table or tables, as the case might be, for ourselves - the best one in the house as it has Pilot. Registrations may be made via www.msba.org<http://www.msba.org> or, as I imagine, via telephone. Due to the great work of our board, a notable speaker has been secured for the day-long training and for the dinner. Do share this with your network.
> 
> 
> Adappo,
> Gary
> 
> 
> Lessons From Poe - Detecting The Inner Mediator
> featuring Stephanie West Allen
> Day-Long Training & Dinner Event
> Thursday, May 2, 2013
> Training: 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
> Dinner: 6:30 pm - 9:00 pm
> Westminster Hall - Site of the Edgar Allen Poe Crypt, 519 Fayette St., Baltimore, MD
> Register by April 1 to receive a discount!
> Register Online<https://www.msba.org/Forms/event/adrspringevent050213.asp>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mgmckay1963%40gmail.com


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Thu Apr  4 13:11:35 2013
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 07:11:35 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Live Webcast April 5: Federal Intellectual Property
	Policy: IP and Disability Rights
In-Reply-To: <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A80C1B36@MAILHOST.WCL.Local>
References: <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A80C1B36@MAILHOST.WCL.Local>
Message-ID: <024701ce3135$efbe58e0$cf3b0aa0$@labarrelaw.com>

FYI

 

From: Meredith Jacob [mailto:mjacob at wcl.american.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:53 AM
To: Meredith Jacob
Subject: Live Webcast April 5: Federal Intellectual Property Policy: IP and
Disability Rights 

 

Dear all,

 

Just wanted to provide you with this info to pass on to anyone in your
respective networks who may be interested in watching some or all of the
webcast online.  

 

While in-person registration is still open, and drop-in attendance is
welcome, at this point we wanted to highlight that the event will be live
webcast with captioning for anyone who would like to follow along remotely.

 

Inaugural Cherry Blossoms Conference on Federal Intellectual Property
Policy: Accessibility, Copyright and New Technologies

 

April 5, 2013 9:00am – 6:00pm

Washington College of Law – Room 402

4801 Massachusetts Ave NW, Washington DC 20016 

Directions: goo.gl/M4LO3

Registration for In-Person Attendance and CLE :
https://www.wcl.american.edu/secle/cle_form.cfm

Live and On-Demand Webcast will be available once the event has begun at:
www.pijip-impact.org/events/cherry-blossoms

 

On April 5, 2013, American University Washington College of Law will host
the Inaugural Cherry Blossom Symposium, exploring intersections between
intellectual property and Federal policy. This year’s inaugural symposium
will focus on intellectual property and disability rights policy.

 

The symposium will take as a starting point the tensions between Federal
intellectual property laws, which promote exclusion as a means of fostering
creation and innovation, and disability rights law and policy, which promote
universal access and social inclusion. There an increasing number of issues
emerging at the intersection of Federal intellectual property laws and
disability rights legislation – including in policy discussions and
litigation over access to e-readers for people with visual impairments, over
access to closed captioning for media content for people who are deaf or
hard of hearing, over access to web content for people with cognitive
disabilities and over strategies for promoting innovation in technologies
and services that promote access more generally for people with
disabilities.

 

The 2013 Cherry Blossom Symposium is being sponsored by WCL’s Program on
Information Justice and Intellectual Property, Disability Rights Law Clinic,
Disability Law Society, and Center for Human Rights and Humanitarian Law.

 

Agenda

9:00

Welcome –  Michael Carroll,  Director, Program on Information Justice and
Intellectual Property, American University Washington College of Law

 

9:15

Copyright and the Americans with Disabilities Act: Conflict or Coexistence?

• Chair:  Peter Jaszi, Professor, American University Washington College of
Law

• Eve Hill, Senior Counselor to the Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights
Division

• Blake Reid, Graduate Clinical Fellow and Staff Attorney Institute for
Public Representation, Georgetown Law

• Tracy Mitrano, Director of IT Policy, Cornell University

• Peter Blanck, University Professor & Chairman, Burton Blatt Institute,
Syracuse University

 

10:30

Break

 

10:45

Technology as a Tool for or Barrier to Universal Access

• Chair: Victoria Phillips, Director, Intellectual Property Law Clinic,
American University Washington College of Law

• Karen Peltz Strauss, Deputy Bureau Chief, Consumer and Governmental
Affairs Bureau, FCC

• Jonathan Lazar, Professor of Computer and Information Sciences, Director,
Universal Usability Laboratory, Towson University

• Raja S. Kushalnagar, Assistant Professor, National Technical Institute for
the Deaf Rochester Institute of Technology

• Prue Adler, Associate Executive Director, Association of Research
Libraries

• Richard Culatta, Acting Director, Office of Educational Technology, US
Department of Education

 

12:45

Luncheon

• Keynote: George Kerscher, Secretary General, DAISY Consortium

2:00

IP and Disability Access in International Law

• Chair: Hadar Harris, Executive Director, Center on Human Rights and
Humanitarian Law, American University Washington College of Law

• Scott LaBarre, Legal Counsel, National Federation for the Blind

• Nancy Weiss, General Counsel, Institute of Museum and Library Services

• Facundo Chávez Penillas, Fellow, Center for Human Rights and Humanitarian
Law, American University Washington College of Law

• Peter Jaszi, Professor,  American University Washington College of Law

 

3:15

Break

 

3:30

Roundtable Discussion: Patents and Innovation Systems for the Production of
Accessibility Tools

• Chairs: Jorge Contreras, American University Washington College of Law;
Sean Flynn, Associate Director, Program on Information Justice and
Intellectual Property, American University Washington College of Law

• Opening Presentation: Christian Vogler, Director, Technology Access
Program,  Gallaudet University, Patent Issues in TTY-911 Services

• Roundtable Discussion: Peter Blanck, Raja  Kushalnagar, Jonathan Lazar,
Bob Dinerstein

 

4:30

Close and Light Reception

 


From LBlake at nfb.org  Mon Apr  8 21:19:26 2013
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:19:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] One Week Left to Register for the 2013 Jacobus tenBroek
 Disability Law Symposium
Message-ID: <169538947A2BAC4694FA18579A4F87101F12B5FF@BL2PRD0711MB397.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

One Week Left to Register
to hear
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2013 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium

Push Forward and Push Back: Continuing the Struggle for the Right to Live in the World

April 18-19, 2013
at the
National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute
Baltimore, Maryland

Don't miss this opportunity to be one of the first to hear Rebecca Bond talk about her plans for DOJ's Disability Rights Section as its new Chief. In addition, 2013 luncheon keynote speaker Jonathan Young, former Chairman of the National Council on Disability and Partner and General Counsel at FOXKISER, will reflect on the continuing struggle by people with disabilities for the right to live in the world.

The 2013 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as: the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, the impact of Olmstead on employment, transitioning from minor to adult in education, the status of Web sites as a place of public accommodation following Target and Netflix, and individual choice in decision making.

2013 Keynote speakers:

  *   Rebecca Bond, Chief (designate), U.S. Department of Justice, Disability Rights Section
  *   Jonathan M. Young, Partner and General Counsel, FOXKISER

2013 plenary session presenters:


  *   Curtis L. Decker, Executive Director, National Disability Rights Network
  *   Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law & Associate Dean for Experiential Education, and Director, Disability Rights Law Clinic, American University Washington College of Law
  *   Kristin Booth Glen, Surrogate (retired), New York County Surrogate's Court
  *   Daniel F. Goldstein, Partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP
  *   Judith E. Heumann, Special Advisor on International Disability Rights, United States Department of State
  *   Arlene B. Mayerson, Directing Attorney, Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund
  *   Ari Ne'eman, President, Autistic Self Advocacy Network
  *   Curtis Richards, Director, Centre for Workforce Development, Institute for Educational Leadership
  *   Eric Rosenthal, Executive Director, Disability Rights International
  *   Kathleen L. Wilde, Litigation Director, Disability Rights Oregon

2013 workshop facilitators:


  *   Amy L. Allbright, Director, American Bar Association Commission on Disability Rights
  *   Robert Bruskin, Senior Counsel, Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs
  *   Ira Burnim, Legal Director, Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
  *   Tina M. Campanella, Chief Executive Officer, Quality Trust for Individuals with Disabilities
  *   Marc Charmatz, Senior Attorney, National Association of the Deaf
  *   David Ferleger, Esquire, Law Office of David Ferleger
  *   Leslie P. Francis, Associate Dean for Faculty Research and Development, S.J. Quinney College of Law, and Alfred C. Emery Distinguished Professor of Law and Distinguished Professor of Philosophy, University of Utah
  *   Eden Heilman, Senior Staff Attorney, Southern Poverty Law Center
  *   Peter Jaszi, Professor of Law and Faculty Director of the Glushko-Samuelson Intellectual Property Clinic, American University Washington College of Law
  *   Marti Knisley, Director of the National Community Support Initiative, Technical Assistance Collaborative
  *   Christopher Kuczynski, Assistant Legal Counsel, United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
  *   Scott LaBarre, Principal, LaBarre Law Offices, P.C.
  *   Bill Lichtenstein, Parent and Journalist, Lichtenstein Creative Media
  *   Jennifer Mathis, Assistant Legal Director, Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
  *   Paula D. Pearlman, Executive Director, Disability Rights Legal Center
  *   Joseph B. Ryan, Associate Professor and Associate Director of Research and Outreach for the School of Education, Clemson University
  *   Mehgan Sidhu, General Counsel, National Federation of the Blind
  *   Daniel T. Vail, Esquire, United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
  *   Mark C. Weber, Vincent DePaul Professor of Law, DePaul University College of Law
  *   Megan K. Whyte, Director, Fair Housing Project, Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs

Documentation for CLE credits will be provided.

Registration fee: $175
Student registration fee: $25

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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr  9 12:34:43 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:34:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
Message-ID: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>

I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and
visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But on a
disability level.
I'd read it through twice if I were you.
Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site and read
those job opportunities. Gods.
Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times
MARTIN, S.D. - Rural Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law
school graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law
practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country lives,
recent data show.
Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations on the
Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of property
litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides with no one to
take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one of half a dozen
lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for 120 miles.
"A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and
judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South Dakota's
chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very real possibility
of whole sections of this state being without access to legal services."
In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. In
Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent are in
the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around Houston,
Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar Association
called on federal, state and local governments to stem the decline of
lawyers in rural areas.
Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It passed
a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in rural areas,
like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists have had for
decades.
Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself on
medical training to increase practical skills and employability. They also
come amid intense debate on the future of the legal profession, and concerns
about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past two years, only about 55
percent of law school graduates, many with large student loans to repay,
have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
"In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in others
we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting worse," said
David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal profession at Harvard
Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about half their time serving
individuals and half on corporations. By the 1990s, it was two-thirds for
corporations. So there has been a skewing toward urban business practice and
neglect of many other legal needs."
Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 lawyers
were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with only 2 percent
in rural regions.
In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates from
South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming will gather
near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected to be high on the
agenda.
The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33
counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain fewer
than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
"I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the state bar
association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in Garner, Iowa, said of
the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said, there were a dozen lawyers
in his area. Now there are seven, none of them young.
Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law students to
spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put down roots. In
Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours for law students for
the first time this year.
Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his
homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger
lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, the
shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of the
people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town of
1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000 head of
cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of lawyers, the ones
in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than two hours from Rapid
City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which also pays to transport
prisoners 100 miles away because it has no functioning jail.
"Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and judges,
we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman of the County 
Board of Commissioners.
The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the rural
counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy before the
state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he worried about finding
the money for his county's share and rental properties for young lawyers.
Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the site of
the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and antelopes, winter
wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills, sales and disputes.
"We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from Rapid
City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in years. For any
legal issue, we have to look out of town."
Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction is a
raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal matters
sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on the Internet
and download forms.
Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South Dakota,
said lawyers serve their towns not only through their professional work but
also on school and community boards. He said that in contrast to an earlier
era, law graduates seemed increasingly drawn to urban life for the better
shopping and dining as well as job opportunities for their spouses. In
addition, he said, young graduates need mentors.
But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities for
satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in rural
areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors and help
spouses find work.
The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year
commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16
participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 percent of
the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law School.
This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National
Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan repayment
for two years of service in underserved areas and up to $140,000 for five
years of service. The program consists of nearly 10,000 medical, dental and
mental health professionals serving 10.4 million people, almost half in
rural communities.
A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that residents
who train in rural settings are two to three times more likely than urban
graduates to practice in rural areas.
"The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor finding
some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be ratcheted up to
that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We should think more about
public-private partnerships and loosening up some of the restrictions on law
practice without junking them all. What we need now is experimentation, like
what is happening in South Dakota."




From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 17:20:35 2013
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:20:35 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] ensuring consistency of formatting of emails and
	documents, jaws user
Message-ID: <CAGZitzJ3zs5d-_b=TF9V_tMJJCDoFO0MaPuH3F3-FRn3VR6XKQ@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,
I'm a jaws user and enquiring about the best ways of ensuring the
consistency of formatting in documents and emails, using jaws.
I've tried text analyzer. maybe I'm not getting the most out of it but
I don't think it especially useful.
Thoughts welcome.
Ger


From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 17:59:45 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:59:45 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>
References: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>

That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and
> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But on a
> disability level.
> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site and read
> those job opportunities. Gods.
> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times
> MARTIN, S.D. - Rural Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law
> school graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law
> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country lives,
> recent data show.
> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations on the
> Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of property
> litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides with no one to
> take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one of half a dozen
> lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for 120 miles.
> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and
> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South Dakota's
> chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very real possibility
> of whole sections of this state being without access to legal services."
> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. In
> Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent are in
> the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around Houston,
> Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar Association
> called on federal, state and local governments to stem the decline of
> lawyers in rural areas.
> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It passed
> a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in rural areas,
> like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists have had for
> decades.
> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself on
> medical training to increase practical skills and employability. They also
> come amid intense debate on the future of the legal profession, and concerns
> about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past two years, only about 55
> percent of law school graduates, many with large student loans to repay,
> have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in others
> we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting worse," said
> David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal profession at Harvard
> Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about half their time serving
> individuals and half on corporations. By the 1990s, it was two-thirds for
> corporations. So there has been a skewing toward urban business practice and
> neglect of many other legal needs."
> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 lawyers
> were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with only 2 percent
> in rural regions.
> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates from
> South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming will gather
> near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected to be high on the
> agenda.
> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33
> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain fewer
> than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the state bar
> association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in Garner, Iowa, said of
> the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said, there were a dozen lawyers
> in his area. Now there are seven, none of them young.
> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law students to
> spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put down roots. In
> Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours for law students for
> the first time this year.
> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his
> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger
> lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, the
> shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of the
> people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town of
> 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000 head of
> cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of lawyers, the ones
> in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than two hours from Rapid
> City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which also pays to transport
> prisoners 100 miles away because it has no functioning jail.
> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and judges,
> we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman of the County 
> Board of Commissioners.
> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the rural
> counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy before the
> state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he worried about finding
> the money for his county's share and rental properties for young lawyers.
> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the site of
> the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and antelopes, winter
> wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills, sales and disputes.
> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from Rapid
> City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in years. For any
> legal issue, we have to look out of town."
> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction is a
> raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal matters
> sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on the Internet
> and download forms.
> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South Dakota,
> said lawyers serve their towns not only through their professional work but
> also on school and community boards. He said that in contrast to an earlier
> era, law graduates seemed increasingly drawn to urban life for the better
> shopping and dining as well as job opportunities for their spouses. In
> addition, he said, young graduates need mentors.
> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities for
> satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in rural
> areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors and help
> spouses find work.
> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year
> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16
> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 percent of
> the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law School.
> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National
> Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan repayment
> for two years of service in underserved areas and up to $140,000 for five
> years of service. The program consists of nearly 10,000 medical, dental and
> mental health professionals serving 10.4 million people, almost half in
> rural communities.
> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that residents
> who train in rural settings are two to three times more likely than urban
> graduates to practice in rural areas.
> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor finding
> some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be ratcheted up to
> that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We should think more about
> public-private partnerships and loosening up some of the restrictions on law
> practice without junking them all. What we need now is experimentation, like
> what is happening in South Dakota."
> 
> 
> 
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 18:08:54 2013
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:08:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>
References: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>
	<09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>
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Until the google car gets going and we can drive. its not all that far off.



On Apr 9, 2013, at 13:59, Mike Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and
>> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But on a
>> disability level.
>> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
>> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site and read
>> those job opportunities. Gods.
>> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times
>> MARTIN, S.D. - Rural Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law
>> school graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law
>> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country lives,
>> recent data show.
>> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations on the
>> Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of property
>> litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides with no one to
>> take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one of half a dozen
>> lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for 120 miles.
>> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and
>> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South Dakota's
>> chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very real possibility
>> of whole sections of this state being without access to legal services."
>> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. In
>> Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent are in
>> the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around Houston,
>> Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar Association
>> called on federal, state and local governments to stem the decline of
>> lawyers in rural areas.
>> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It passed
>> a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in rural areas,
>> like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists have had for
>> decades.
>> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself on
>> medical training to increase practical skills and employability. They also
>> come amid intense debate on the future of the legal profession, and concerns
>> about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past two years, only about 55
>> percent of law school graduates, many with large student loans to repay,
>> have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
>> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in others
>> we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting worse," said
>> David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal profession at Harvard
>> Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about half their time serving
>> individuals and half on corporations. By the 1990s, it was two-thirds for
>> corporations. So there has been a skewing toward urban business practice and
>> neglect of many other legal needs."
>> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 lawyers
>> were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with only 2 percent
>> in rural regions.
>> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates from
>> South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming will gather
>> near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected to be high on the
>> agenda.
>> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33
>> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain fewer
>> than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
>> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the state bar
>> association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in Garner, Iowa, said of
>> the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said, there were a dozen lawyers
>> in his area. Now there are seven, none of them young.
>> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law students to
>> spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put down roots. In
>> Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours for law students for
>> the first time this year.
>> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his
>> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger
>> lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, the
>> shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of the
>> people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
>> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town of
>> 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000 head of
>> cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of lawyers, the ones
>> in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than two hours from Rapid
>> City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which also pays to transport
>> prisoners 100 miles away because it has no functioning jail.
>> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and judges,
>> we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman of the County 
>> Board of Commissioners.
>> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the rural
>> counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy before the
>> state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he worried about finding
>> the money for his county's share and rental properties for young lawyers.
>> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the site of
>> the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and antelopes, winter
>> wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills, sales and disputes.
>> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from Rapid
>> City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in years. For any
>> legal issue, we have to look out of town."
>> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction is a
>> raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal matters
>> sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on the Internet
>> and download forms.
>> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South Dakota,
>> said lawyers serve their towns not only through their professional work but
>> also on school and community boards. He said that in contrast to an earlier
>> era, law graduates seemed increasingly drawn to urban life for the better
>> shopping and dining as well as job opportunities for their spouses. In
>> addition, he said, young graduates need mentors.
>> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities for
>> satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in rural
>> areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors and help
>> spouses find work.
>> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year
>> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16
>> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 percent of
>> the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law School.
>> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National
>> Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan repayment
>> for two years of service in underserved areas and up to $140,000 for five
>> years of service. The program consists of nearly 10,000 medical, dental and
>> mental health professionals serving 10.4 million people, almost half in
>> rural communities.
>> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that residents
>> who train in rural settings are two to three times more likely than urban
>> graduates to practice in rural areas.
>> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor finding
>> some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be ratcheted up to
>> that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We should think more about
>> public-private partnerships and loosening up some of the restrictions on law
>> practice without junking them all. What we need now is experimentation, like
>> what is happening in South Dakota."
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 18:24:32 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:24:32 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <3750962A-9315-4B16-BC4D-EB24D54C031A@gmail.com>
References: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>
	<09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>
	<3750962A-9315-4B16-BC4D-EB24D54C031A@gmail.com>
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Omg. That is so true. I've been looking forward to that for a long time. I do hope it comes to fruition in our lifetime.  

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sybren Hoekstra <sy.hoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Until the google car gets going and we can drive. its not all that far off.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 13:59, Mike Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and
>>> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But on a
>>> disability level.
>>> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
>>> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site and read
>>> those job opportunities. Gods.
>>> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times
>>> MARTIN, S.D. - Rural Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law
>>> school graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law
>>> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country lives,
>>> recent data show.
>>> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations on the
>>> Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of property
>>> litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides with no one to
>>> take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one of half a dozen
>>> lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for 120 miles.
>>> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and
>>> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South Dakota's
>>> chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very real possibility
>>> of whole sections of this state being without access to legal services."
>>> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. In
>>> Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent are in
>>> the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around Houston,
>>> Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar Association
>>> called on federal, state and local governments to stem the decline of
>>> lawyers in rural areas.
>>> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It passed
>>> a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in rural areas,
>>> like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists have had for
>>> decades.
>>> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself on
>>> medical training to increase practical skills and employability. They also
>>> come amid intense debate on the future of the legal profession, and concerns
>>> about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past two years, only about 55
>>> percent of law school graduates, many with large student loans to repay,
>>> have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
>>> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in others
>>> we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting worse," said
>>> David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal profession at Harvard
>>> Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about half their time serving
>>> individuals and half on corporations. By the 1990s, it was two-thirds for
>>> corporations. So there has been a skewing toward urban business practice and
>>> neglect of many other legal needs."
>>> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 lawyers
>>> were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with only 2 percent
>>> in rural regions.
>>> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates from
>>> South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming will gather
>>> near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected to be high on the
>>> agenda.
>>> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33
>>> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain fewer
>>> than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
>>> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the state bar
>>> association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in Garner, Iowa, said of
>>> the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said, there were a dozen lawyers
>>> in his area. Now there are seven, none of them young.
>>> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law students to
>>> spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put down roots. In
>>> Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours for law students for
>>> the first time this year.
>>> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his
>>> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger
>>> lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, the
>>> shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of the
>>> people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
>>> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town of
>>> 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000 head of
>>> cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of lawyers, the ones
>>> in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than two hours from Rapid
>>> City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which also pays to transport
>>> prisoners 100 miles away because it has no functioning jail.
>>> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and judges,
>>> we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman of the County 
>>> Board of Commissioners.
>>> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the rural
>>> counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy before the
>>> state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he worried about finding
>>> the money for his county's share and rental properties for young lawyers.
>>> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the site of
>>> the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and antelopes, winter
>>> wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills, sales and disputes.
>>> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from Rapid
>>> City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in years. For any
>>> legal issue, we have to look out of town."
>>> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction is a
>>> raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal matters
>>> sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on the Internet
>>> and download forms.
>>> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South Dakota,
>>> said lawyers serve their towns not only through their professional work but
>>> also on school and community boards. He said that in contrast to an earlier
>>> era, law graduates seemed increasingly drawn to urban life for the better
>>> shopping and dining as well as job opportunities for their spouses. In
>>> addition, he said, young graduates need mentors.
>>> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities for
>>> satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in rural
>>> areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors and help
>>> spouses find work.
>>> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year
>>> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16
>>> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 percent of
>>> the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law School.
>>> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National
>>> Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan repayment
>>> for two years of service in underserved areas and up to $140,000 for five
>>> years of service. The program consists of nearly 10,000 medical, dental and
>>> mental health professionals serving 10.4 million people, almost half in
>>> rural communities.
>>> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that residents
>>> who train in rural settings are two to three times more likely than urban
>>> graduates to practice in rural areas.
>>> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor finding
>>> some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be ratcheted up to
>>> that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We should think more about
>>> public-private partnerships and loosening up some of the restrictions on law
>>> practice without junking them all. What we need now is experimentation, like
>>> what is happening in South Dakota."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Apr  9 18:26:25 2013
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:26:25 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>
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	<09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>
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Believe me, there are even urban areas (like my city) which make it
difficult - while we do have para-transit, the scheduling is such that
large portions of time are wasted waiting for either the ride or an
appointment to begin, and nothing can be done with less than 24 hours'
notice.  Buses are equally difficult, because of the routing system.
That leaves only very expensive taxis...but even that might not be
available in rural areas.

-----Original Message-----
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Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:00 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect
Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office
right next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i
think it would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to
thrive in that kind of rural environment, due to not being able to
drive.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and 
> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But 
> on a disability level.
> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site 
> and read those job opportunities. Gods.
> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times MARTIN, S.D. - Rural 
> Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law school 
> graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law 
> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country 
> lives, recent data show.
> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations 
> on the Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of 
> property litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides 
> with no one to take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one

> of half a dozen lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for
120 miles.
> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and 
> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South 
> Dakota's chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very 
> real possibility of whole sections of this state being without access
to legal services."
> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. 
> In Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent

> are in the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around 
> Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar

> Association called on federal, state and local governments to stem the

> decline of lawyers in rural areas.
> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It 
> passed a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in

> rural areas, like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists 
> have had for decades.
> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself 
> on medical training to increase practical skills and employability. 
> They also come amid intense debate on the future of the legal 
> profession, and concerns about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past

> two years, only about 55 percent of law school graduates, many with 
> large student loans to repay, have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in 
> others we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting 
> worse," said David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal 
> profession at Harvard Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about 
> half their time serving individuals and half on corporations. By the 
> 1990s, it was two-thirds for corporations. So there has been a skewing

> toward urban business practice and neglect of many other legal needs."
> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 
> lawyers were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with 
> only 2 percent in rural regions.
> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates 
> from South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming 
> will gather near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected 
> to be high on the agenda.
> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33 
> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain 
> fewer than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the 
> state bar association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in 
> Garner, Iowa, said of the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said,

> there were a dozen lawyers in his area. Now there are seven, none of
them young.
> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law 
> students to spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put 
> down roots. In Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours

> for law students for the first time this year.
> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his 
> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger

> lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, 
> the shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of

> the people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town 
> of 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000

> head of cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of 
> lawyers, the ones in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than

> two hours from Rapid City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which 
> also pays to transport prisoners 100 miles away because it has no
functioning jail.
> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and 
> judges, we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman 
> of the County Board of Commissioners.
> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the 
> rural counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy 
> before the state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he 
> worried about finding the money for his county's share and rental
properties for young lawyers.
> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the 
> site of the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and 
> antelopes, winter wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds,
wills, sales and disputes.
> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from 
> Rapid City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in 
> years. For any legal issue, we have to look out of town."
> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction 
> is a raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal 
> matters sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on 
> the Internet and download forms.
> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South 
> Dakota, said lawyers serve their towns not only through their 
> professional work but also on school and community boards. He said 
> that in contrast to an earlier era, law graduates seemed increasingly 
> drawn to urban life for the better shopping and dining as well as job 
> opportunities for their spouses. In addition, he said, young graduates
need mentors.
> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities

> for satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in 
> rural areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors 
> and help spouses find work.
> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year 
> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16 
> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 
> percent of the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law
School.
> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National

> Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan 
> repayment for two years of service in underserved areas and up to 
> $140,000 for five years of service. The program consists of nearly 
> 10,000 medical, dental and mental health professionals serving 10.4 
> million people, almost half in rural communities.
> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that 
> residents who train in rural settings are two to three times more 
> likely than urban graduates to practice in rural areas.
> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor 
> finding some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be 
> ratcheted up to that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We 
> should think more about public-private partnerships and loosening up 
> some of the restrictions on law practice without junking them all. 
> What we need now is experimentation, like what is happening in South
Dakota."
> 
> 
> 
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From amatney at hf-law.com  Tue Apr  9 18:41:09 2013
From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:41:09 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
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In a prior (nonlegal) job, I had a caseload that involved some very rural areas here in Virginia. The agency hired a reader/driver. I think that would be the only way you could operate in some rural areas, because as Susan notes, taxies aren't uniformly available.



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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

Believe me, there are even urban areas (like my city) which make it difficult - while we do have para-transit, the scheduling is such that large portions of time are wasted waiting for either the ride or an appointment to begin, and nothing can be done with less than 24 hours'
notice.  Buses are equally difficult, because of the routing system.
That leaves only very expensive taxis...but even that might not be available in rural areas.



From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Apr  9 19:20:45 2013
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:20:45 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
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Sybren:

Although I am an advocate of hope, I wouldn't put too many eggs in the
Google Car basket.  I am 57 years of age.  The average life span of an
American male is 76 years.

Within my lifetime, only the very wealthy will be purchasing Google cars.

However, being an advocate of hope, perhaps you will give me one for my 65th
birthday. (lol)

Dan McBride
Fort Worth, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren
Hoekstra
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:09 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

Until the google car gets going and we can drive. its not all that far off.



On Apr 9, 2013, at 13:59, Mike Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect
Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right
next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it
would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that
kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and 
>> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But 
>> on a disability level.
>> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
>> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site 
>> and read those job opportunities. Gods.
>> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times MARTIN, S.D. - Rural 
>> Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law school 
>> graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law 
>> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country 
>> lives, recent data show.
>> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations 
>> on the Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of 
>> property litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides 
>> with no one to take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was 
>> one of half a dozen lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for
120 miles.
>> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and 
>> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South 
>> Dakota's chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very 
>> real possibility of whole sections of this state being without access to
legal services."
>> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. 
>> In Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 
>> percent are in the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are 
>> around Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the 
>> American Bar Association called on federal, state and local 
>> governments to stem the decline of lawyers in rural areas.
>> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It 
>> passed a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work 
>> in rural areas, like the national one that doctors, nurses and 
>> dentists have had for decades.
>> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself 
>> on medical training to increase practical skills and employability. 
>> They also come amid intense debate on the future of the legal 
>> profession, and concerns about a possible glut of lawyers. In the 
>> past two years, only about 55 percent of law school graduates, many 
>> with large student loans to repay, have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
>> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in 
>> others we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting 
>> worse," said David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal 
>> profession at Harvard Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about 
>> half their time serving individuals and half on corporations. By the 
>> 1990s, it was two-thirds for corporations. So there has been a 
>> skewing toward urban business practice and neglect of many other legal
needs."
>> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 
>> lawyers were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with 
>> only 2 percent in rural regions.
>> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates 
>> from South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming 
>> will gather near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected 
>> to be high on the agenda.
>> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33 
>> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain 
>> fewer than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
>> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the 
>> state bar association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in 
>> Garner, Iowa, said of the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he 
>> said, there were a dozen lawyers in his area. Now there are seven, none
of them young.
>> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law 
>> students to spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put 
>> down roots. In Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus 
>> tours for law students for the first time this year.
>> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his 
>> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that 
>> younger lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled 
>> office, the shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The 
>> needs of the people are still there. There is plenty of work and
opportunity."
>> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town 
>> of 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 
>> 1,000 head of cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table 
>> of lawyers, the ones in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more 
>> than two hours from Rapid City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, 
>> which also pays to transport prisoners 100 miles away because it has no
functioning jail.
>> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and 
>> judges, we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman 
>> of the County Board of Commissioners.
>> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the 
>> rural counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy 
>> before the state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he 
>> worried about finding the money for his county's share and rental
properties for young lawyers.
>> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the 
>> site of the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and 
>> antelopes, winter wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills,
sales and disputes.
>> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from 
>> Rapid City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in 
>> years. For any legal issue, we have to look out of town."
>> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction 
>> is a raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal 
>> matters sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on 
>> the Internet and download forms.
>> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South 
>> Dakota, said lawyers serve their towns not only through their 
>> professional work but also on school and community boards. He said 
>> that in contrast to an earlier era, law graduates seemed increasingly 
>> drawn to urban life for the better shopping and dining as well as job 
>> opportunities for their spouses. In addition, he said, young graduates
need mentors.
>> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the 
>> possibilities for satisfying and highly varied legal work were 
>> especially great in rural areas. And the plan is to set up new rural 
>> lawyers with mentors and help spouses find work.
>> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year 
>> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16 
>> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 
>> percent of the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law
School.
>> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the 
>> National Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free 
>> loan repayment for two years of service in underserved areas and up 
>> to $140,000 for five years of service. The program consists of nearly 
>> 10,000 medical, dental and mental health professionals serving 10.4 
>> million people, almost half in rural communities.
>> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that 
>> residents who train in rural settings are two to three times more 
>> likely than urban graduates to practice in rural areas.
>> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor 
>> finding some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be 
>> ratcheted up to that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We 
>> should think more about public-private partnerships and loosening up 
>> some of the restrictions on law practice without junking them all. 
>> What we need now is experimentation, like what is happening in South
Dakota."
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr  9 20:21:11 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:21:11 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
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Oh yes indeed, transportation is, in my mind the very first thing to deal
with, and in a rural environment it would probably be a job killer.  My
point in posting the article was to engender three things 
 First to note how a bar association that thinks outside of the box can
address an issue of legal need.
Second, to note how the medical community addressed a similar issue a long
time ago with a more attractive business model to entice doctors etc into
rural environments.
And third, why can't state bar associations do something similar to address
legal needs in urban communities for target groups like us, for target
needs, like those?
I know many of us bridle at being viewed as a target group -- but not nearly
as much as those who have the target need would like to have someone like
"us" represent them, right?
 Lets face it, proven, skilled and enthusiastic legal professionals go
wanting for work because of a visual impairment when there is a critical
need for our services.
Just a few thoughts to ponder, I don't have the answers but I thought it was
interesting how the statistics for legal need, and attorney flight away from
general practice into corporate and business practices seemed to be so
readily available while an entire segment of the legal community who could
begin filling that need was not noted at all..
I admit to being a trouble maker. I have been told that by people other than
my wife, most usually opposing counsel.



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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect
Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right
next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it
would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that
kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and 
> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But 
> on a disability level.
> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site 
> and read those job opportunities. Gods.
> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times MARTIN, S.D. - Rural 
> Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law school 
> graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law 
> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country 
> lives, recent data show.
> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations 
> on the Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of 
> property litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides 
> with no one to take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was one 
> of half a dozen lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for 120
miles.
> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and 
> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South 
> Dakota's chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very 
> real possibility of whole sections of this state being without access to
legal services."
> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. 
> In Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 percent 
> are in the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are around 
> Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the American Bar 
> Association called on federal, state and local governments to stem the 
> decline of lawyers in rural areas.
> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It 
> passed a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work in 
> rural areas, like the national one that doctors, nurses and dentists 
> have had for decades.
> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself 
> on medical training to increase practical skills and employability. 
> They also come amid intense debate on the future of the legal 
> profession, and concerns about a possible glut of lawyers. In the past 
> two years, only about 55 percent of law school graduates, many with 
> large student loans to repay, have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in 
> others we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting 
> worse," said David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal 
> profession at Harvard Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about 
> half their time serving individuals and half on corporations. By the 
> 1990s, it was two-thirds for corporations. So there has been a skewing 
> toward urban business practice and neglect of many other legal needs."
> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 
> lawyers were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with 
> only 2 percent in rural regions.
> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates 
> from South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming 
> will gather near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected 
> to be high on the agenda.
> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33 
> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain 
> fewer than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the 
> state bar association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in 
> Garner, Iowa, said of the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he said, 
> there were a dozen lawyers in his area. Now there are seven, none of them
young.
> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law 
> students to spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put 
> down roots. In Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus tours 
> for law students for the first time this year.
> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his 
> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that younger 
> lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled office, 
> the shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The needs of 
> the people are still there. There is plenty of work and opportunity."
> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town 
> of 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 1,000 
> head of cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table of 
> lawyers, the ones in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more than 
> two hours from Rapid City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, which 
> also pays to transport prisoners 100 miles away because it has no
functioning jail.
> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and 
> judges, we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman 
> of the County Board of Commissioners.
> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the 
> rural counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy 
> before the state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he 
> worried about finding the money for his county's share and rental
properties for young lawyers.
> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the 
> site of the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and 
> antelopes, winter wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills,
sales and disputes.
> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from 
> Rapid City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in 
> years. For any legal issue, we have to look out of town."
> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction 
> is a raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal 
> matters sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on 
> the Internet and download forms.
> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South 
> Dakota, said lawyers serve their towns not only through their 
> professional work but also on school and community boards. He said 
> that in contrast to an earlier era, law graduates seemed increasingly 
> drawn to urban life for the better shopping and dining as well as job 
> opportunities for their spouses. In addition, he said, young graduates
need mentors.
> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the possibilities 
> for satisfying and highly varied legal work were especially great in 
> rural areas. And the plan is to set up new rural lawyers with mentors 
> and help spouses find work.
> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year 
> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16 
> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 
> percent of the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law
School.
> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the National 
> Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free loan 
> repayment for two years of service in underserved areas and up to 
> $140,000 for five years of service. The program consists of nearly 
> 10,000 medical, dental and mental health professionals serving 10.4 
> million people, almost half in rural communities.
> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that 
> residents who train in rural settings are two to three times more 
> likely than urban graduates to practice in rural areas.
> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor 
> finding some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be 
> ratcheted up to that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We 
> should think more about public-private partnerships and loosening up 
> some of the restrictions on law practice without junking them all. 
> What we need now is experimentation, like what is happening in South
Dakota."
> 
> 
> 
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 20:30:30 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:30:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
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Ha ha ha. It's so true. So exciting to think about. But even if they do become commercial there will have to be at least a decade of demonstrated excellence before they'll be allowed to pilot blind people alone, I think.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 12:20 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Sybren:
> 
> Although I am an advocate of hope, I wouldn't put too many eggs in the
> Google Car basket.  I am 57 years of age.  The average life span of an
> American male is 76 years.
> 
> Within my lifetime, only the very wealthy will be purchasing Google cars.
> 
> However, being an advocate of hope, perhaps you will give me one for my 65th
> birthday. (lol)
> 
> Dan McBride
> Fort Worth, Texas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren
> Hoekstra
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:09 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
> 
> Until the google car gets going and we can drive. its not all that far off.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 13:59, Mike Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That is interesting article. One issue that seems to particularly affect
> Visually impaired attorneys is driving. So unless you set up an office right
> next door to the courthouse and your clients would come see you, i think it
> would be very difficult for a visually impaired attorney to thrive in that
> kind of rural environment, due to not being able to drive.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that this article points out some issues that many blind and 
>>> visually impaired lawyers have been trying to bring up for years. But 
>>> on a disability level.
>>> I'd read it through twice if I were you.
>>> Then, by all means, go to the South Dakota Bar Association web site 
>>> and read those job opportunities. Gods.
>>> Published in April 9, 2013 New York Times MARTIN, S.D. - Rural 
>>> Americans are increasingly without lawyers even as law school 
>>> graduates are increasingly without jobs. Just 2 percent of small law 
>>> practices are in rural areas, where nearly a fifth of the country 
>>> lives, recent data show.
>>> Here in Bennett County, which is situated between Indian reservations 
>>> on the Nebraska border, Fredric Cozad is retiring after 64 years of 
>>> property litigation, school board disputes, tax cases and homicides 
>>> with no one to take his place. When he hung out his shingle he was 
>>> one of half a dozen lawyers here. Now there is not a working attorney for
> 120 miles.
>>> "A hospital will not last long with no doctors, and a courthouse and 
>>> judicial system with no lawyers faces the same grim future," South 
>>> Dakota's chief justice, David E. Gilbertson, said. "We face the very 
>>> real possibility of whole sections of this state being without access to
> legal services."
>>> In South Dakota, 65 percent of the lawyers live in four urban areas. 
>>> In Georgia, 70 percent are in the Atlanta area. In Arizona, 94 
>>> percent are in the two largest counties, and in Texas, 83 percent are 
>>> around Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. Last summer, the 
>>> American Bar Association called on federal, state and local 
>>> governments to stem the decline of lawyers in rural areas.
>>> Last month, South Dakota became the first state to heed the call. It 
>>> passed a law that offers lawyers an annual subsidy to live and work 
>>> in rural areas, like the national one that doctors, nurses and 
>>> dentists have had for decades.
>>> Such moves follow a growing call for legal education to model itself 
>>> on medical training to increase practical skills and employability. 
>>> They also come amid intense debate on the future of the legal 
>>> profession, and concerns about a possible glut of lawyers. In the 
>>> past two years, only about 55 percent of law school graduates, many 
>>> with large student loans to repay, have found full-time jobs as lawyers.
>>> "In some areas we probably do have an oversupply of lawyers, but in 
>>> others we have a chronic undersupply, and that problem is getting 
>>> worse," said David B. Wilkins, who directs a program on the legal 
>>> profession at Harvard Law School. "In the 1970s, lawyers spent about 
>>> half their time serving individuals and half on corporations. By the 
>>> 1990s, it was two-thirds for corporations. So there has been a 
>>> skewing toward urban business practice and neglect of many other legal
> needs."
>>> Data from LexisNexis showed that in 2012, firms with fewer than 50 
>>> lawyers were heavily concentrated in urban and suburban areas, with 
>>> only 2 percent in rural regions.
>>> In June at the annual Jackrabbit Bar Conference, for which delegates 
>>> from South Dakota and similar states like Nevada, Montana and Wyoming 
>>> will gather near Mount Rushmore, the new South Dakota law is expected 
>>> to be high on the agenda.
>>> The South Dakota model has also drawn interest in Iowa, where the 33 
>>> counties with the smallest populations, among 99 over all, contain 
>>> fewer than 4 percent of the state's lawyers.
>>> "I sent it to our legislators," Philip L. Garland, chairman of the 
>>> state bar association's rural practice committee and a lawyer in 
>>> Garner, Iowa, said of the South Dakota law. Thirty years ago, he 
>>> said, there were a dozen lawyers in his area. Now there are seven, none
> of them young.
>>> Last year, the Iowa State Bar Association began encouraging law 
>>> students to spend summers in rural areas in the hope they might put 
>>> down roots. In Nebraska, the bar association organized rural bus 
>>> tours for law students for the first time this year.
>>> Here in South Dakota, Mr. Cozad, who is 86 and came as a boy with his 
>>> homesteader parents from Iowa, said he had never imagined that 
>>> younger lawyers would not follow him. Sitting in his modest paneled 
>>> office, the shelves groaning under aging legal volumes, he said: "The 
>>> needs of the people are still there. There is plenty of work and
> opportunity."
>>> That was evident on the day court was in weekly session in this town 
>>> of 1,100. The lunch place at the Martin Livestock Auction, where 
>>> 1,000 head of cattle had been sold the previous day, included a table 
>>> of lawyers, the ones in suits, ties and no hats. All had driven more 
>>> than two hours from Rapid City and Pierre, paid by Bennett County, 
>>> which also pays to transport prisoners 100 miles away because it has no
> functioning jail.
>>> "Between sending out prisoners to Winner and bringing in lawyers and 
>>> judges, we are breaking the county budget," said Rolf Kraft, chairman 
>>> of the County Board of Commissioners.
>>> The new law to lure lawyers passed partly because it requires the 
>>> rural counties and the bar association to contribute to the subsidy 
>>> before the state pays. Mr. Kraft said the law seemed good, but he 
>>> worried about finding the money for his county's share and rental
> properties for young lawyers.
>>> Mayor Gayle Kocer said that landowners in Martin - 42 miles from the 
>>> site of the Wounded Knee massacre and home to wild turkeys and 
>>> antelopes, winter wheat and millet - required lawyers for deeds, wills,
> sales and disputes.
>>> "We need lawyers," she said. "Our state attorney drives down from 
>>> Rapid City. It's crazy. We haven't had a full-time city attorney in 
>>> years. For any legal issue, we have to look out of town."
>>> Carla Sue Denis, a drug-rehabilitation counselor in town - addiction 
>>> is a raging problem - said people seeking a divorce and other legal 
>>> matters sometimes consulted her since she knew how to do research on 
>>> the Internet and download forms.
>>> Thomas C. Barnett Jr., executive director of the State Bar of South 
>>> Dakota, said lawyers serve their towns not only through their 
>>> professional work but also on school and community boards. He said 
>>> that in contrast to an earlier era, law graduates seemed increasingly 
>>> drawn to urban life for the better shopping and dining as well as job 
>>> opportunities for their spouses. In addition, he said, young graduates
> need mentors.
>>> But Mr. Barnett, like Chief Justice Gilbertson, said the 
>>> possibilities for satisfying and highly varied legal work were 
>>> especially great in rural areas. And the plan is to set up new rural 
>>> lawyers with mentors and help spouses find work.
>>> The new law, which will go into effect in June, requires a five-year 
>>> commitment from the applicant and sets up a pilot program of up to 16 
>>> participants. They will receive an annual subsidy of $12,000, 90 
>>> percent of the cost of a year at the University of South Dakota Law
> School.
>>> This compares with a 40-year-old federal medical program, the 
>>> National Health Service Corps, which offers up to $60,000 in tax-free 
>>> loan repayment for two years of service in underserved areas and up 
>>> to $140,000 for five years of service. The program consists of nearly 
>>> 10,000 medical, dental and mental health professionals serving 10.4 
>>> million people, almost half in rural communities.
>>> A spokesman for the federal program said research had shown that 
>>> residents who train in rural settings are two to three times more 
>>> likely than urban graduates to practice in rural areas.
>>> "The health care model is unbelievably subsidized, and while I favor 
>>> finding some version of it for legal needs, it is never going to be 
>>> ratcheted up to that level," Professor Wilkins of Harvard said. "We 
>>> should think more about public-private partnerships and loosening up 
>>> some of the restrictions on law practice without junking them all. 
>>> What we need now is experimentation, like what is happening in South
> Dakota."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Apr  9 21:03:11 2013
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:03:11 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
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Although the Google self-driving car is still in its infancy, my hope is
that I'd be able to drive one someday.  I do intend to keep this hope alive
for as long as I live, unless I lose all my senses and become more of a
vegetable before it becomes a reality.

Today, we can do much more with technology.  Now, I can use Abbyy FineReader
to scan all my books and don't have a need for expensive toys like Kurzweil
1000 or OpenBook.  A few short years back, this would have been impossible.
SmartPhones are beginning to support OCR packages which will soon obviate
the need for specially adapted phone-based OCR apps.  I salute the courage
and candour of those who take their ttime to investigate these technologies
and I'll pray that their dreams will never die unfulfilled!  

It's my understanding that the Google self-driving car was tested in
Botswana, Africa sometime back and it performed well.  Therefore, the
promise is real and, before too long, it will all fall in place.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 22:14:42 2013
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:14:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <000e01ce3565$a54da020$efe8e060$@com>
References: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>	<09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>	<3750962A-9315-4B16-BC4D-EB24D54C031A@gmail.com>
	<00e801ce3557$56207e40$02617ac0$@sbcglobal.net>
	<000e01ce3565$a54da020$efe8e060$@com>
Message-ID: <004c01ce356f$a3a9a890$eafcf9b0$@gmail.com>

Actually, it's been tested in California rather extensively, and a nearly
completely blind man successfully drove it to Taco Bell and the laundry
matt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/google-self-driving-car-blind-man-t
aco-bell_n_1387930.html




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:03 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

Although the Google self-driving car is still in its infancy, my hope is
that I'd be able to drive one someday.  I do intend to keep this hope alive
for as long as I live, unless I lose all my senses and become more of a
vegetable before it becomes a reality.

Today, we can do much more with technology.  Now, I can use Abbyy FineReader
to scan all my books and don't have a need for expensive toys like Kurzweil
1000 or OpenBook.  A few short years back, this would have been impossible.
SmartPhones are beginning to support OCR packages which will soon obviate
the need for specially adapted phone-based OCR apps.  I salute the courage
and candour of those who take their ttime to investigate these technologies
and I'll pray that their dreams will never die unfulfilled!  

It's my understanding that the Google self-driving car was tested in
Botswana, Africa sometime back and it performed well.  Therefore, the
promise is real and, before too long, it will all fall in place.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr  9 23:06:27 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:06:27 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article
In-Reply-To: <004c01ce356f$a3a9a890$eafcf9b0$@gmail.com>
References: <948FEA89ECF849718F8F1F37F234354B@mycomputer>	<09DA099E-8576-4806-AC6D-5C03D861235E@gmail.com>	<3750962A-9315-4B16-BC4D-EB24D54C031A@gmail.com><00e801ce3557$56207e40$02617ac0$@sbcglobal.net><000e01ce3565$a54da020$efe8e060$@com>
	<004c01ce356f$a3a9a890$eafcf9b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D489B4146D0479E90A60A726DEAD014@mycomputer>

While I "see" how the car found the Taco Bell and his laundry place, the
wonders of a good GPS - how did the car know where the drive-up ordering
pillar was?
I'll bet some software programming folks had some fun with all of that job.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy Hoekstra
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:15 PM
To: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

Actually, it's been tested in California rather extensively, and a nearly
completely blind man successfully drove it to Taco Bell and the laundry
matt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/google-self-driving-car-blind-man-t
aco-bell_n_1387930.html




-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:03 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] N.Y. Times Article

Although the Google self-driving car is still in its infancy, my hope is
that I'd be able to drive one someday.  I do intend to keep this hope alive
for as long as I live, unless I lose all my senses and become more of a
vegetable before it becomes a reality.

Today, we can do much more with technology.  Now, I can use Abbyy FineReader
to scan all my books and don't have a need for expensive toys like Kurzweil
1000 or OpenBook.  A few short years back, this would have been impossible.
SmartPhones are beginning to support OCR packages which will soon obviate
the need for specially adapted phone-based OCR apps.  I salute the courage
and candour of those who take their ttime to investigate these technologies
and I'll pray that their dreams will never die unfulfilled!  

It's my understanding that the Google self-driving car was tested in
Botswana, Africa sometime back and it performed well.  Therefore, the
promise is real and, before too long, it will all fall in place.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 10 01:59:04 2013
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:59:04 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google's driverless car
Message-ID: <013c01ce358e$fae346b0$f0a9d410$@sbcglobal.net>

A couple of things about the driverless car.  First, as is always the case
with scientific and technological advancements, the motivation is profit and
its initial applications are for use by the military industrial complex.

 

Google's driverless car originated through DARPA, the Defense Advanced
Research Project Agency in 2005.  It doesn't take much to realize that the
initial use for this technology will not be for average citizens.  Rather,
it will be used for robotic tanks, armored vehicles and other military
vehicles.  In essence, it will be used to develop drones that drive through
the streets rather than flying overhead.

 

Second is the cost if, and when, it becomes available to the citizen
consumer.  At a scientific seminar this past January, one of the Google car
engineers spoke of "releasing the technology" to auto manufacturers within
the next five years.  Currently, however, the modifications to make a car
driverless are at a cost of $150,000 per unit.  This would make the cost of
such car close to $200,000.

 

So, the initial cost of these cars will be prohibitive for the average
consumer.

 

I have no doubt the day is coming that driverless cars will be as common as
hybrids are today.  However, at 57 years old, I do not foresee it in my
lifetime.  On the other hand, I do anticipate robotic, driverless military
vehicles to be with us in the near future, as that is the foremost reason
for development of the technology.

 

I for one, do not have a budget that will allow $200,000 for a car.  

 

Dan McBride 


From kristiwilkins at gmail.com  Wed Apr 10 02:16:35 2013
From: kristiwilkins at gmail.com (Kristi Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:16:35 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google's driverless car
In-Reply-To: <013c01ce358e$fae346b0$f0a9d410$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <013c01ce358e$fae346b0$f0a9d410$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <DA86E490-EF6E-4433-BABB-A273A8393ABE@gmail.com>

Not to be a negative nancy, but there is another concern. Even the best technologies fail from time to time or have glitches. I wonder how likely it is that it will ever be deemed infallible enough that blind people will be allowed to "drive" one alone. If the technology fails with a sighted person in the car, they could always grab the wheel and take over. I am always hopeful as transportation is always a major issue. 

Kristi

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2013, at 8:59 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> A couple of things about the driverless car.  First, as is always the case
> with scientific and technological advancements, the motivation is profit and
> its initial applications are for use by the military industrial complex.
> 
> 
> 
> Google's driverless car originated through DARPA, the Defense Advanced
> Research Project Agency in 2005.  It doesn't take much to realize that the
> initial use for this technology will not be for average citizens.  Rather,
> it will be used for robotic tanks, armored vehicles and other military
> vehicles.  In essence, it will be used to develop drones that drive through
> the streets rather than flying overhead.
> 
> 
> 
> Second is the cost if, and when, it becomes available to the citizen
> consumer.  At a scientific seminar this past January, one of the Google car
> engineers spoke of "releasing the technology" to auto manufacturers within
> the next five years.  Currently, however, the modifications to make a car
> driverless are at a cost of $150,000 per unit.  This would make the cost of
> such car close to $200,000.
> 
> 
> 
> So, the initial cost of these cars will be prohibitive for the average
> consumer.
> 
> 
> 
> I have no doubt the day is coming that driverless cars will be as common as
> hybrids are today.  However, at 57 years old, I do not foresee it in my
> lifetime.  On the other hand, I do anticipate robotic, driverless military
> vehicles to be with us in the near future, as that is the foremost reason
> for development of the technology.
> 
> 
> 
> I for one, do not have a budget that will allow $200,000 for a car.  
> 
> 
> 
> Dan McBride 
> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 10 02:17:14 2013
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:17:14 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google's driverless car
References: <013c01ce358e$fae346b0$f0a9d410$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7972C5CEDCFE4AAA8A2834AF86B5B71A@HP8730notebook>

hi,

thank you for stating my opinion from a few years ago.
maybe someone in my state will put more stock in your truths when coming 
from someone other than me.
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 8:59 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Google's driverless car


>A couple of things about the driverless car.  First, as is always the case
> with scientific and technological advancements, the motivation is profit 
> and
> its initial applications are for use by the military industrial complex.
>
>
>
> Google's driverless car originated through DARPA, the Defense Advanced
> Research Project Agency in 2005.  It doesn't take much to realize that the
> initial use for this technology will not be for average citizens.  Rather,
> it will be used for robotic tanks, armored vehicles and other military
> vehicles.  In essence, it will be used to develop drones that drive 
> through
> the streets rather than flying overhead.
>
>
>
> Second is the cost if, and when, it becomes available to the citizen
> consumer.  At a scientific seminar this past January, one of the Google 
> car
> engineers spoke of "releasing the technology" to auto manufacturers within
> the next five years.  Currently, however, the modifications to make a car
> driverless are at a cost of $150,000 per unit.  This would make the cost 
> of
> such car close to $200,000.
>
>
>
> So, the initial cost of these cars will be prohibitive for the average
> consumer.
>
>
>
> I have no doubt the day is coming that driverless cars will be as common 
> as
> hybrids are today.  However, at 57 years old, I do not foresee it in my
> lifetime.  On the other hand, I do anticipate robotic, driverless military
> vehicles to be with us in the near future, as that is the foremost reason
> for development of the technology.
>
>
>
> I for one, do not have a budget that will allow $200,000 for a car.
>
>
>
> Dan McBride
>
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> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Wed Apr 10 07:36:44 2013
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:36:44 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] File Site and Jaws, Question For Angela
Message-ID: <CAGZitzLBEuGx_=aGP-vQy0zLtQK-kmP+CpxVPGijrOuWWv0vOw@mail.gmail.com>

Angela

In previous correspondence, we discussed the need to interact with
Freedom Scientific regarding jaws and its limitations when working
with file site.

I know you were anxious that others mention this to FS. Can I confirm
to whom I should write regarding this?

Kind regards

Ger


From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Wed Apr 10 12:34:57 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:34:57 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Improving Access to Federal Facilities -- Brought to
 you by Perspectives
In-Reply-To: <CB7D6C252DA8F740AA211EBE0B1AFE14571239@ECNEXMBVS04.oasam.dir.labor.gov>
References: <147C5F36480D3D4886CEDAE15B46416E091DC9F2@RSRCNMEX3>
	<8B1E0BAFE06BDF4F9FE67F6B75323B930FF875E1@RSRCNMEX1>
	<CB7D6C252DA8F740AA211EBE0B1AFE1404FCBFFD@ECNEXMBVS04.oasam.dir.labor.gov>
	<CB7D6C252DA8F740AA211EBE0B1AFE14571239@ECNEXMBVS04.oasam.dir.labor.gov>
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F381EE9@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:46 PM
>Subject: FW: Improving Access to Federal Facilities -- Brought to you by
>Perspectives
>
>Colleagues,
>
>The Perspectives on Employment of Persons with Disabilities Committee
>would like to invite you and other disability and/or facilities management
>professionals in the DC area to attend an upcoming free event we are
>offering in partnership with the U.S. Access Board.
>
>This information session, which will take place on Monday, April 29th at the
>Access Board from 10 AM until 12 PM, will focus on how federal facilities can
>be more accessible to individuals with disabilities.  Ms.
>Peg Blechman, Compliance Specialist, will also explain the Board's role in
>addressing complaints.  For additional information, including how to register,
>see the attached.
>
>Please disseminate throughout your networks and to facilities management
>personnel in the DC area.
>

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From wburley at burley-wilson.com  Wed Apr 10 13:50:46 2013
From: wburley at burley-wilson.com (William Burley)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:50:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for a Sample Demand Letter
Message-ID: <DD30FC25-543F-40F9-921C-D5F57E0D3EBC@burley-wilson.com>

Good Wednesday morning!

Would anyone know of a place where I can find a demand letter requesting corporate documents? The only letters I have are for personal injury cases.

Thanks for any suggestions and help…

Will Burley
Burley-Wilson & Associates
Main: 888-494-0031
Direct: 832-529-3243
Web:www.burley-wilson.com

"Virtual Consultants for Your Success"

From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Wed Apr 10 15:26:23 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:26:23 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] First Dinner Forum of Lyceum -- Great Success
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F382327@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:





This is to inform that the first dinner forum of the Lyceum, hosted in partnership with the Museum of Maritime Pets, was a success. On 7 April, between twenty to twenty-five people gathered together for good conversation, good food, and good interaction at Gordon Biersch Restaurant. The next dinner forum of the Lyceum, in partnership with the Museum, will be in November, 2013.


I would be remiss if I did not thank: Elaine, an officer of the Lyceum, for her dedication to the Lyceum and its projects; the Deputy Director of MCRO for his friendship and facilitation skills; Mark, a board member of the Lyceum, for his time commitment to the dinner forum of Sunday; and the Museum for being an outstanding, good faith, and great partner.


The Lyceum is thankful of having the presence of notable Maryland citizens on Sunday: former Secretary of M.H.D.H. or Md. HHS, as I called it; Caroline; an Associate Judge of the Md. Ct. of App.; and of course Judge Jim and his wife, also a notable judge.


We are presently exploring publishing a transcript of the dinner forum in the Journal.


Broadly writing at this moment, the next dinner forum will discuss ensuring physical, programmatic, and informational access to cultural institutions. Great speakers from the Kennedy Center and the Smithsonian have been secured. More details will be forthcoming.


Stacey, current Chair of the Animal Law Section, won the door prize - breakfast with Pilot and myself at Roland Park Bakery or at Common Ground Café. She has until and inclusive of 3 May to redeem it.


On another note, we are looking forward to an informal post symposium launch celebration of the Lyceum and its Journal.


Before this missive concludes, it should be noted that Caroline propounded what was perhaps the seminal question in the discussion portion of the dinner forum. The Lyceum will look forward to working with her and organizations like BARCS to utilize a public engagement strategy (e.g. a dinner forum) to further build relationships among shelters and veterans. She propounded basically:

How do we connect animal shelters like BARCS and organizations serving veterans to match wounded warriors with companion or service dogs?


The Lyceum is open to receiving your comments (offline) as to how, if at all, the dinner forums may be improved.


Sincerely,
Gary

From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Wed Apr 10 21:20:14 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:20:14 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Looking for Volunteer Editors for Issue No. 2
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F3827E4@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:


As announced at the successful dinner forum, we have the Journal whose first issue was published in December- January. The Lyceum is in the process of organizing a second issue, which, if all is successful, will be published in December-January once again. To advance this project, the Journal is in need of volunteer editors. We do welcome any talented graduate or post graduate student (law students or non-law students) who have significant experience in publishing articles and/or working on a public policy Journal. Again, the Lyceum is grateful for many individuals and organizations and their good faith partnership; among these are - the Museum; the Bar Foundation; the Board of Governors of the bar association; the dispute resolution community of Md.; and all of the members of the Lyceum's board and advisory board. If interested, do contact me at (410) 241-6745.


Sincerely,
Gary
Co-founder, Acting President, and Co-Executive Editor

From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 12 01:43:29 2013
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:43:29 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
Message-ID: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>

Members:

 

I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law library
in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals for use by the
public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons.

 

Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making
at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not
all four.

 

As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know
what to suggest otherwise.

 

I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should I be
discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your views on the
Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations
and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind
persons.

 

Thank you

Daniel McBride

Fort Worth


From cannona at fireantproductions.com  Fri Apr 12 02:39:09 2013
From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:39:09 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a
nerd, so will comment on the first.

Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows.  If they are Macs,
running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a
screen reader built in.

However, getting the screen reader is only the first step.  I'm
assuming that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so
that you can get access to the software or web sites that are
available exclusively on those computers.  However, it is possible
that the software or web sites you wish to access may not be
accessible.

My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT
department meet with you at the library, where you both can install a
demo version of Jaws, and you can test the software, to see if it is
in fact accessible.

If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning
curve for you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader)
works.

Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Aaron Cannon

On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Members:
>
>
>
> I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law library
> in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals for use by the
> public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons.
>
>
>
> Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making
> at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not
> all four.
>
>
>
> As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know
> what to suggest otherwise.
>
>
>
> I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should I be
> discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your views on the
> Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations
> and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind
> persons.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Daniel McBride
>
> Fort Worth
>
> _______________________________________________
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From paulharpur at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 02:45:39 2013
From: paulharpur at gmail.com (Paul Harpur)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:45:39 +1000
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005401ce3727$d3aaee50$7b00caf0$@gmail.com>

You might consider using NVDA as this is free.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron
Cannon
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility

I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a nerd,
so will comment on the first.

Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows.  If they are Macs,
running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a screen
reader built in.

However, getting the screen reader is only the first step.  I'm assuming
that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so that you can get
access to the software or web sites that are available exclusively on those
computers.  However, it is possible that the software or web sites you wish
to access may not be accessible.

My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT department meet
with you at the library, where you both can install a demo version of Jaws,
and you can test the software, to see if it is in fact accessible.

If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning curve for
you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader) works.

Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Aaron Cannon

On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Members:
>
>
>
> I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law 
> library in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals 
> for use by the public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind
persons.
>
>
>
> Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss 
> making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind 
> persons, if not all four.
>
>
>
> As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't 
> know what to suggest otherwise.
>
>
>
> I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should 
> I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your 
> views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of 
> reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public 
> access law library and blind persons.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Daniel McBride
>
> Fort Worth
>
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From rdittman at stmarytx.edu  Fri Apr 12 02:50:24 2013
From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:50:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <005401ce3727$d3aaee50$7b00caf0$@gmail.com>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<005401ce3727$d3aaee50$7b00caf0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F95D26A9-A3FB-46CD-9963-CD43DE8E6BAD@stmarytx.edu>

Daniel I think the idea is a good one but perhaps you might consider writing up a proposal for the city council to consider such as this is what you could do to increase accessibility as opposed to taking the offensive track of beatings them into submission V What type of law library programs are they using, LEXIS-NEXIS, Westlaw, etc.? Once we know the type of research software they are using then we will be better able to know if the screen reader alone will be enough. That was the hardest part I had hospital was to gain access to legal research. Met by the way you do know or maybe you don't that resources such as fast case and find law as well as the Texas bar website are useful and excessive accessible. Good luck on your quest and if you want to call me to have someone to bounce a battle plan off of feel free to do so take care and good luck 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2013, at 21:46, "Paul Harpur" <paulharpur at gmail.com> wrote:

> You might consider using NVDA as this is free.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Cannon
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
> 
> I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a nerd,
> so will comment on the first.
> 
> Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows.  If they are Macs,
> running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a screen
> reader built in.
> 
> However, getting the screen reader is only the first step.  I'm assuming
> that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so that you can get
> access to the software or web sites that are available exclusively on those
> computers.  However, it is possible that the software or web sites you wish
> to access may not be accessible.
> 
> My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT department meet
> with you at the library, where you both can install a demo version of Jaws,
> and you can test the software, to see if it is in fact accessible.
> 
> If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning curve for
> you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader) works.
> 
> Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
> 
> Aaron Cannon
> 
> On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Members:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law 
>> library in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals 
>> for use by the public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind
> persons.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss 
>> making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind 
>> persons, if not all four.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't 
>> know what to suggest otherwise.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should 
>> I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your 
>> views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of 
>> reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public 
>> access law library and blind persons.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Daniel McBride
>> 
>> Fort Worth
>> 
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Fri Apr 12 14:38:10 2013
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:38:10 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <F8AF7FE2971A7E468ABC5B960EF7609D01E09F57@spexch2k301.central.pima.gov>

When I first started losing my vision 4 years ago, I used a program
called WinZoom - it was a very helpful magnification / narration program
which is quite useful to persons who still have a decent amount of
residual vision.  It is fairly intuitive and does not have the learning
curve of JAWS or Zoom Text.  While it probably wouldn't help users who
need JAWS or a similar heavy-duty program, it would be good on the other
terminals - magnification is much more clear than that I remember being
standard on a Windows computer, and is useful even to folks who still
have the eyesight to be driving, etc.

It does seem that at least one terminal should have JAWS, though - and
maybe the braille output option as well?  And MAGic or some other
magnification program.

Good luck - I still have problems convincing others in the profession
that I can still use a computer just like before.  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:43 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility

Members:

 

I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law
library in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals for
use by the public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons.

 

Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss
making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind
persons, if not all four.

 

As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't
know what to suggest otherwise.

 

I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should I
be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your views
on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable
accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public access law
library and blind persons.

 

Thank you

Daniel McBride

Fort Worth

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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Fri Apr 12 14:44:12 2013
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:44:12 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <588D5FC8160845FD84175759C6A78143@victory2>

Dear Mr. McBride:

I think it would be unfair to recommend a particular screen reader over the 
other.  If you recommend Jaws, and I walk into the said library desiring to 
use NVDA, there will be a problem.  The librarian will assume that I am a 
Jaws user just like you when in fact this may not be true.  As such, whereas 
the library will be accessible to you, it will remain largely inaccessible 
to me.

If you are able to load your screen reader of choice on a USB flash drive, I 
believe that requesting access to the library's computer using the screen 
reader loaded on your USB flash drive will be the best approach.  My 
understanding with respect to Jaws though is that a copy of Jaws does have 
to be installed on the particular computer to be used in order for the 
portable version on a USB flash drive to work.  If this is correct, perhaps, 
for temporary use only, you may need to investigate NVDA, System Access to 
Go, and Window-Eyes!

Of the three screen readers suggested above, Window-Eyes may require the 
installation of a video driver on the computer in question before the 
portable version on a USB flash drive would work.  NVDA, however, DOES NOT 
rely on video driver hooks, and, if memory serves, I believe that System 
Access To Go can be used directly off the Internet.

As you can see sire, no one method fits the bill.  Not all blind individuals 
use Jaws and, if the goal is to make the library's computer accessible to 
other blind atorneys or paralegals in your area, the considerations outlined 
herein do become necessary evils!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Fri Apr 12 14:49:07 2013
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:49:07 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7@victory2>

Dear Mr. Cannon:

Well sir, Jaws is NOT THE ONLY screen reader for Windows.  Supernova, NVDA, 
System Access To Go, Window-Eyes and another one whose name begins with the 
letter "C" but I don't recall the rest of it--are others!  You may use Jaws 
and love it; but this may not be the case for other blind lawyers and 
paralegals needing similar access.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 18:22:06 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:22:06 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7@victory2>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7@victory2>
Message-ID: <CAKtsbaoEsc6c8RDHr6umBN0u=uGUROW46mF0KUb0mZCOCyVJaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

It seems to me that a strong case could be made under the ADA that at least
one computer research terminal in a public library should be accessible to
a blind person.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. <
ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Cannon:
>
> Well sir, Jaws is NOT THE ONLY screen reader for Windows.  Supernova,
> NVDA, System Access To Go, Window-Eyes and another one whose name begins
> with the letter "C" but I don't recall the rest of it--are others!  You may
> use Jaws and love it; but this may not be the case for other blind lawyers
> and paralegals needing similar access.
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Apr 12 20:15:34 2013
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:15:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7EDA5B93B58E9@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Daniel:

The situation you raise about access to a court house public library could be a violation of the ADA.  You could file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice under Title II  of the ADA, which applies to local and state governments.  Here is a link to DOJ's ADA website.

www.ada.gov

Of course, local and state laws could also apply. 

Noel Nightingale


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:43 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility

Members:

 

I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas.  The county has a law library
in the courthouse.  The library has four computer terminals for use by the
public.  Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons.

 

Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making
at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not
all four.

 

As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know
what to suggest otherwise.

 

I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues.  First, should I be
discussing any accommodation other than JAWS?  Secondly, your views on the
Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations
and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind
persons.

 

Thank you

Daniel McBride

Fort Worth

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From cannona at fireantproductions.com  Sat Apr 13 01:16:19 2013
From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:16:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility
In-Reply-To: <621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7@victory2>
References: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAERFoOjhWw30S8EDUo6gythGW4StP34ET=TOyHqQNKJCJyzJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7@victory2>
Message-ID: <E8B30560-D36A-4FB1-821A-721E4EA3B2C3@fireantproductions.com>

Hi.

Thanks for mentioning that other screenreaders exist. I think that too many people are unaware of this. However, I never said in my message that I love Jaws. The only reason I mentioned it in particular was because it was mentioned in the original question, so I reasonably assumed that it was the preferred screenreader of the original poster.

Aaron

--
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On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:49 AM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Cannon:
> 
> Well sir, Jaws is NOT THE ONLY screen reader for Windows.  Supernova, NVDA, System Access To Go, Window-Eyes and another one whose name begins with the letter "C" but I don't recall the rest of it--are others!  You may use Jaws and love it; but this may not be the case for other blind lawyers and paralegals needing similar access.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado 
> 
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From harderlucas at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 13 18:13:55 2013
From: harderlucas at yahoo.com (Lucas Harder)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] Strike Through in PDFs
Message-ID: <1365876835.41638.YahooMailClassic@web121102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dear List,
I was hoping someone would be able to help me with a problem. For my externship in school I'm supposed to be reading and reporting on some of the pending bills in the legislative session. The bills are in PDFA format. I'm needing to be able to know when the bill indicates a word has been striken from the statute. I'm using JAWS 14 and I have changed the speech settings so that it is supposed to indicate attribute changes, including the strike through. So far, I have had no luck with getting JAWS to recognize the striken material.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lucas Harder
UALR William H. Bowen School of Law
 J.D. Candidate 2013



From dravant at ameritech.net  Sun Apr 14 02:10:16 2013
From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:10:16 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship: New
	Application Deadline
References: <754CD11606D64746A911DFADB3D18CD538784E@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org>
Message-ID: <58CA3B2C-B6F2-4AEF-9466-D0E1CD5DFE28@ameritech.net>


Denise Avant
dravant at ameritech.net

P.S.  Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual
Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III,
Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Rita, Sherri" <Sherri.Rita at AMERICANBAR.ORG>
> Subject: Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship: New Application Deadline
> Date: April 10, 2013 9:31:20 AM CDT
> To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
> Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Rita, Sherri" <Sherri.Rita at AMERICANBAR.ORG>
> 
> Please note the new application deadline. 
> https://www.disabilityrightslegalcenter.org/kirkland-ellis-justice-fellowship
> Disability Rights Legal Center’s Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship is awarded every two years to a law school graduate(applicants should be graduating May 2012 - May 2013) to pursue public interest work for two years as a staff attorney with DRLC in Los Angeles.  The Fellow is selected on the basis of personal integrity and the potential to make a positive contribution towards enhancing the civil rights of people with disabilities.
>  
> All applications must be received by 5:00 pm (PST) on Friday, May 31, 2013.  Finalists will be notified the beginning of June and interviews will be conducted the week of June 17, 2013.  Start date is September/October 2013.
>  
>  
> Sherri L. Rita, J.D.
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>  
> 
>  


From taiablas at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 03:10:14 2013
From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 22:10:14 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Strike Through in PDFs
In-Reply-To: <1365876835.41638.YahooMailClassic@web121102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1365876835.41638.YahooMailClassic@web121102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006901ce38bd$999fbc80$ccdf3580$@gmail.com>

Lucas,

If the program you are using to access the PDF will allow it, I would
recommend saving to RTF. I have Adobe X Standard and it allows me to do
this. When you open the RTF in word, JAWS should indicate the striken
material. Let me know if you have this version of the PDF software. If not,
feel free to send me the material off list and I will convert it for you. My
email address is taiablas at gmail dot com. 

Alternatively, you could ask your VR counselor and/or school to provide you
with a human reader to assist you with the material.

Tai
 

From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucas
Harder
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:14 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Strike Through in PDFs

Dear List,
I was hoping someone would be able to help me with a problem. For my
externship in school I'm supposed to be reading and reporting on some of the
pending bills in the legislative session. The bills are in PDFA format. I'm
needing to be able to know when the bill indicates a word has been striken
from the statute. I'm using JAWS 14 and I have changed the speech settings
so that it is supposed to indicate attribute changes, including the strike
through. So far, I have had no luck with getting JAWS to recognize the
striken material.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lucas Harder
UALR William H. Bowen School of Law
 J.D. Candidate 2013


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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Mon Apr 15 15:02:17 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:02:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Animal L. Symposium and A.D.R. Spring Dinner
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F3834AA@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:


This is to encourage you to register for:

22 April, 4th annual animal law symposium at 519 West Fayette Street

2 May, A.D.R. Spring dinner, also at the Hall


After the symposium of 22 April, a post symposium launch of the Journal will occur.


In terms of animal law, discount rates are available for students.


Registration information is available at www.msba.org.

From rdittman at stmarytx.edu  Tue Apr 16 13:03:33 2013
From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:03:33 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
Message-ID: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>

Hi all,

So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what software those of you who use a mac also use.
I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so on.

thanks for the help.

Robert Dittman

p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate planning.


Sent from my iPhone

From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Tue Apr 16 14:16:29 2013
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:16:29 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
Message-ID: <002801ce3aac$fd09d8f0$f71d8ad0$@wiennergould.com>

If I were starting a solo practice today, I would use something like cleo or
rocket.  They are affordable, and allot cheaper than buying and managing
software.  All you have to do is pick the web service you like best, which
will probably be the one that works with your browser the best.


-------------------------------------------
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Wienner & Gould, P.C.
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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman,
Robert
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:04 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hi all,

So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage your
practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so on.

thanks for the help.

Robert Dittman

p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate
planning.


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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 16:25:11 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:25:11 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
Message-ID: <3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>

Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your experiences.  

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what software those of you who use a mac also use.
> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so on.
> 
> thanks for the help.
> 
> Robert Dittman
> 
> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate planning.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Apr 16 16:42:09 2013
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:42:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
	<3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>

To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or 
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn 
some from one another?


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I 
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting 
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your 
experiences.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what 
> software those of you who use a mac also use.
> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage your 
> practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so on.
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> Robert Dittman
>
> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate 
> planning.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 17:15:05 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:15:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
	<3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>
	<57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
Message-ID: <F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.  So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on it.  

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq." <attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn some from one another?
> 
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
> 
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your experiences.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so on.
>> 
>> thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Robert Dittman
>> 
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate planning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr 16 17:52:22 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:52:22 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.  

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
> 
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
> 
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
> software
> 
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>> 
>> thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Robert Dittman
>> 
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate
planning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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From rdittman at stmarytx.edu  Tue Apr 16 18:11:08 2013
From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:11:08 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
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Oh brothers and sisters of the bar I greatly appreciate the conference call idea I am very interested let me know when it is and I will make every effort to be there also if you have any other tips for a young attorney that would be great my bar results should be out on 3 May and I will let you know I still plan on trying to work with Congress to become a jag but I have to put food on the table

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:53, "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
> Ross Doerr
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
> fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
> So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
> it.  
> 
> Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
> <attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:
> 
>> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or
> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
> some from one another?
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> Alcidonis Law Office
>> 2824 Cottman Avenue
>> Suite 15
>> Philadelphia, PA 19149
>> O: (215) 305-8085
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> www.alcidonislaw.com
>> 
>> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
>> software
>> 
>> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I
> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
> my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
> experiences.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what
> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
> on.
>>> 
>>> thanks for the help.
>>> 
>>> Robert Dittman
>>> 
>>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate
> planning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Apr 16 17:35:40 2013
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:35:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FDD1D19B0644414C9D3A20F8C8E92C18@Workstation>

Mike:

Of course I have some advice about living in Philly. Don't come here! Smile. 
Feel free to shoot me an e-mail with questions and concerns and I will 
address them. Let me know generally where you will be living.



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the 
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo. 
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on 
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq." 
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or 
> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly 
> learn some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I 
> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be 
> starting my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear 
> about your experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what 
>> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage 
>> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so 
>> on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate 
>> planning.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Apr 16 18:04:03 2013
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:04:03 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation><F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
	<6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <687E71A14904406FA0F1BB8194466672@Workstation>

Ross:

If the interest is there, I can make this happen by end of this month. Let's 
see how many folks are interested. It would be an opportunity for solos to 
share ideas with each other on how we are making out on our own.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:52 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management
> software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate
planning.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue Apr 16 19:13:41 2013
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:13:41 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
	<6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <00b301ce3ad6$824586d0$86d09470$@labarrelaw.com>

A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
continuing series of NABL telecons.  

Best,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.  

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call 
> or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
> 
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
> 
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
> software
> 
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own 
> practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know 
>> what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>> 
>> thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Robert Dittman
>> 
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic 
>> estate
planning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr 16 19:15:38 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:15:38 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <687E71A14904406FA0F1BB8194466672@Workstation>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation><F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com><6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
	<687E71A14904406FA0F1BB8194466672@Workstation>
Message-ID: <57B3B88464DB46C8A350C7E95CCD74E7@mycomputer>

I agree Rod.  It is an excellent idea, and a conference call  by phone or
skype  would be a great idea - we won't have to travel to a city anywhere.
Ross
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Alcidonis, Esq.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:04 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Ross:

If the interest is there, I can make this happen by end of this month. Let's
see how many folks are interested. It would be an opportunity for solos to
share ideas with each other on how we are making out on our own.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
Message-----
From: Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:52 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call 
> or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
> software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own 
> practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know 
>> what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic 
>> estate
planning.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr 16 19:17:46 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:17:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <FDD1D19B0644414C9D3A20F8C8E92C18@Workstation>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation><F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
	<FDD1D19B0644414C9D3A20F8C8E92C18@Workstation>
Message-ID: <C64B10FC4B8F44A8A25860F49A020A95@mycomputer>


On the other hand, I'd say that moving to Maine is a definate "no" - Its
expensive to live, the pay scale is very, very low, the cost of living is
high and unbless you know someone, getting a job is extremely difficult to
do.
But, if you like ice and snow... We beat Philly hands down.,
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Alcidonis, Esq.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:36 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Mike:

Of course I have some advice about living in Philly. Don't come here! Smile.

Feel free to shoot me an e-mail with questions and concerns and I will
address them. Let me know generally where you will be living.



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the 
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo. 
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on 
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq." 
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or 
> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly 
> learn some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I

> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be 
> starting my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear 
> about your experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know what 
>> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage 
>> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so

>> on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic estate

>> planning.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 19:26:54 2013
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:26:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] effective cross examination
Message-ID: <000c01ce3ad8$5b0defb0$0202a8c0@hometwxakonvzn>

In your opinion, What makes an effective cross examination? I'm not a lawyer myself, but I'm watching a trial. Lets say you asked a question such as, "Dr. Johnson, You can't tell us with a reasonible degree of medical cirtainity, that the stab wounds and not the gun shot to the chest were fatle can you yes or no? RJ

From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Apr 16 19:50:24 2013
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:50:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <00b301ce3ad6$824586d0$86d09470$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com><6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
	<00b301ce3ad6$824586d0$86d09470$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <B0821A11958B48BAA620C223BABC661F@Workstation>

Well, if it is an NABL call, I would need to make sure that I am following 
proper protocols so I am not out of order. In that case, further 
instructions would be needed from you, Scott, on how to proceed. Either the 
leadership will take over and make it happen, or I can be tasked with the 
responsibility. I am fine with it one way or the other.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott C. LaBarre
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:13 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
continuing series of NABL telecons.

Best,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

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On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call
> or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
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> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
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> software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own
> practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know
>> what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic
>> estate
planning.
>>
>>
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 21:44:09 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:44:09 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] effective cross examination
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I don't have any trial experience but I would say that sounds like a good cross-examination question to me.

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> In your opinion, What makes an effective cross examination? I'm not a lawyer myself, but I'm watching a trial. Lets say you asked a question such as, "Dr. Johnson, You can't tell us with a reasonible degree of medical cirtainity, that the stab wounds and not the gun shot to the chest were fatle can you yes or no? RJ
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Tue Apr 16 22:33:12 2013
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:33:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] effective cross examination
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I do try cases and it is a leading question which is what you are supposed
to do in cross examination.

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I don't have any trial experience but I would say that sounds like a good
cross-examination question to me.

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wrote:

> In your opinion, What makes an effective cross examination? I'm not a 
> lawyer myself, but I'm watching a trial. Lets say you asked a question 
> such as, "Dr. Johnson, You can't tell us with a reasonible degree of 
> medical cirtainity, that the stab wounds and not the gun shot to the 
> chest were fatle can you yes or no? RJ 
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From jts220 at charter.net  Wed Apr 17 01:17:46 2013
From: jts220 at charter.net (Josh Smith)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:17:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] effective cross examination
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Perfect cross.

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> I do try cases and it is a leading question which is what you are supposed
> to do in cross examination.
> 
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> I don't have any trial experience but I would say that sounds like a good
> cross-examination question to me.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> In your opinion, What makes an effective cross examination? I'm not a 
>> lawyer myself, but I'm watching a trial. Lets say you asked a question 
>> such as, "Dr. Johnson, You can't tell us with a reasonible degree of 
>> medical cirtainity, that the stab wounds and not the gun shot to the 
>> chest were fatle can you yes or no? RJ 
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From carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 01:20:48 2013
From: carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com (Kathryn Carroll)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:20:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 107,
	Issue 8 - law library accessibility
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Hi there, You might want to keep in mind that not everyone uses JAWS- for the administrator's sake I wouldn't want the administrator to be confounded by the different software packages out there. I would just be concerned about someone else needing ZoomText or something similar and the administrator not understanding the difference.  Would it be appropriate during the call to ask about other access technology, such as putting a CCTV in the library? A scanner? I do like the NVDA option instead of JAWS. Someone below mentions the USB version of JAWS; for ZoomText, at least, I know that ZoomText has to be installed on the computer itself for the USB startup to work.  Kathryn Carroll Intern, One Billion Strong J.D. Candidate, St. John's University School of Law Class of 2013 Google Voice: (347) 455-1521 Social Media: My LinkedIn Profile, My Site, or ConnectWithMe Make an Appointment with Me From: blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 01:00 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: blindlaw Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8   Send blindlaw mailing list submissions to blindlaw at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of blindlaw digest..." Today's Topics: 1. law library accessibility (Daniel McBride) 2. Re: law library accessibility (Aaron Cannon) 3. Re: law library accessibility (Paul Harpur) 4. Re: law library accessibility (Dittman, Robert) 5. Re: law library accessibility (Susan Kelly) 6. Re: law library accessibility (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) 7. Re: law library accessibility (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:43:29 -0500 From: "Daniel McBride" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: <010d01ce371f$23088d80$6919a880$@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Members: I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas. The county has a law library in the courthouse. The library has four computer terminals for use by the public. Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons. Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not all four. As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know what to suggest otherwise. I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues. First, should I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS? Secondly, your views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind persons. Thank you Daniel McBride Fort Worth ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:39:09 -0500 From: Aaron Cannon To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a nerd, so will comment on the first. Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows. If they are Macs, running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a screen reader built in. However, getting the screen reader is only the first step. I'm assuming that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so that you can get access to the software or web sites that are available exclusively on those computers. However, it is possible that the software or web sites you wish to access may not be accessible. My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT department meet with you at the library, where you both can install a demo version of Jaws, and you can test the software, to see if it is in fact accessible. If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning curve for you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader) works. Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Aaron Cannon On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Members: > > > > I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas. The county has a law library > in the courthouse. The library has four computer terminals for use by the > public. Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons. > > > > Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making > at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not > all four. > > > > As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know > what to suggest otherwise. > > > > I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues. First, should I be > discussing any accommodation other than JAWS? Secondly, your views on the > Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations > and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind > persons. > > > > Thank you > > Daniel McBride > > Fort Worth > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:45:39 +1000 From: "Paul Harpur" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: <005401ce3727$d3aaee50$7b00caf0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You might consider using NVDA as this is free. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Cannon Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a nerd, so will comment on the first. Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows. If they are Macs, running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a screen reader built in. However, getting the screen reader is only the first step. I'm assuming that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so that you can get access to the software or web sites that are available exclusively on those computers. However, it is possible that the software or web sites you wish to access may not be accessible. My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT department meet with you at the library, where you both can install a demo version of Jaws, and you can test the software, to see if it is in fact accessible. If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning curve for you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader) works. Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Aaron Cannon On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Members: > > > > I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas. The county has a law > library in the courthouse. The library has four computer terminals > for use by the public. Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons. > > > > Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss > making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind > persons, if not all four. > > > > As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't > know what to suggest otherwise. > > > > I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues. First, should > I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS? Secondly, your > views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of > reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public > access law library and blind persons. > > > > Thank you > > Daniel McBride > > Fort Worth > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40firean > tproductions.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paulharpur%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:50:24 +0000 From: "Dittman, Robert" To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Daniel I think the idea is a good one but perhaps you might consider writing up a proposal for the city council to consider such as this is what you could do to increase accessibility as opposed to taking the offensive track of beatings them into submission V What type of law library programs are they using, LEXIS-NEXIS, Westlaw, etc.? Once we know the type of research software they are using then we will be better able to know if the screen reader alone will be enough. That was the hardest part I had hospital was to gain access to legal research. Met by the way you do know or maybe you don't that resources such as fast case and find law as well as the Texas bar website are useful and excessive accessible. Good luck on your quest and if you want to call me to have someone to bounce a battle plan off of feel free to do so take care and good luck Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 21:46, "Paul Harpur" wrote: > You might consider using NVDA as this is free. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron > Cannon > Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility > > I'm not a lawyer, so certainly can't comment on the second, but I am a nerd, > so will comment on the first. > > Jaws only makes sense if the computers run Windows. If they are Macs, > running a recent version of MacOS, then they will already have a screen > reader built in. > > However, getting the screen reader is only the first step. I'm assuming > that the purpose of getting access to the computers is so that you can get > access to the software or web sites that are available exclusively on those > computers. However, it is possible that the software or web sites you wish > to access may not be accessible. > > My suggestion would be to request that someone from their IT department meet > with you at the library, where you both can install a demo version of Jaws, > and you can test the software, to see if it is in fact accessible. > > If they're using the Mac operating system, there may be a learning curve for > you to figure out how Voice Over (the Mac screen reader) works. > > Good luck, and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. > > Aaron Cannon > > On 4/11/13, Daniel McBride wrote: >> Members: >> >> >> >> I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas. The county has a law >> library in the courthouse. The library has four computer terminals >> for use by the public. Not one of the four is accessible for blind > persons. >> >> >> >> Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss >> making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind >> persons, if not all four. >> >> >> >> As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't >> know what to suggest otherwise. >> >> >> >> I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues. First, should >> I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS? Secondly, your >> views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of >> reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public >> access law library and blind persons. >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> Daniel McBride >> >> Fort Worth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40firean >> tproductions.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paulharpur%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:38:10 -0700 From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I first started losing my vision 4 years ago, I used a program called WinZoom - it was a very helpful magnification / narration program which is quite useful to persons who still have a decent amount of residual vision. It is fairly intuitive and does not have the learning curve of JAWS or Zoom Text. While it probably wouldn't help users who need JAWS or a similar heavy-duty program, it would be good on the other terminals - magnification is much more clear than that I remember being standard on a Windows computer, and is useful even to folks who still have the eyesight to be driving, etc. It does seem that at least one terminal should have JAWS, though - and maybe the braille output option as well? And MAGic or some other magnification program. Good luck - I still have problems convincing others in the profession that I can still use a computer just like before. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Members: I live and practice in Tarrant County, Texas. The county has a law library in the courthouse. The library has four computer terminals for use by the public. Not one of the four is accessible for blind persons. Tomorrow, I intend to call the chief county administrator to discuss making at least one of those four computers accessible for blind persons, if not all four. As my own personal use of computers has been through JAWS, I wouldn't know what to suggest otherwise. I would appreciate your comments regarding two issues. First, should I be discussing any accommodation other than JAWS? Secondly, your views on the Americans With Disabilities Act, the concept of reasonable accommodations and how these concepts apply to the public access law library and blind persons. Thank you Daniel McBride Fort Worth _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:44:12 -0600 From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: <588D5FC8160845FD84175759C6A78143 at victory2> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Mr. McBride: I think it would be unfair to recommend a particular screen reader over the other. If you recommend Jaws, and I walk into the said library desiring to use NVDA, there will be a problem. The librarian will assume that I am a Jaws user just like you when in fact this may not be true. As such, whereas the library will be accessible to you, it will remain largely inaccessible to me. If you are able to load your screen reader of choice on a USB flash drive, I believe that requesting access to the library's computer using the screen reader loaded on your USB flash drive will be the best approach. My understanding with respect to Jaws though is that a copy of Jaws does have to be installed on the particular computer to be used in order for the portable version on a USB flash drive to work. If this is correct, perhaps, for temporary use only, you may need to investigate NVDA, System Access to Go, and Window-Eyes! Of the three screen readers suggested above, Window-Eyes may require the installation of a video driver on the computer in question before the portable version on a USB flash drive would work. NVDA, however, DOES NOT rely on video driver hooks, and, if memory serves, I believe that System Access To Go can be used directly off the Internet. As you can see sire, no one method fits the bill. Not all blind individuals use Jaws and, if the goal is to make the library's computer accessible to other blind atorneys or paralegals in your area, the considerations outlined herein do become necessary evils! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:49:07 -0600 From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law library accessibility Message-ID: <621DF70B58144F6298FA666DC5EFBDC7 at victory2> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Mr. Cannon: Well sir, Jaws is NOT THE ONLY screen reader for Windows. Supernova, NVDA, System Access To Go, Window-Eyes and another one whose name begins with the letter "C" but I don't recall the rest of it--are others! You may use Jaws and love it; but this may not be the case for other blind lawyers and paralegals needing similar access. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of blindlaw Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8 ****************************************

From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 17 02:25:36 2013
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:25:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>	<3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>
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Rod:

Excellent idea.  Count me in.

Dan McBride, Attorney
Fort Worth, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Alcidonis, Esq.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
Message-----
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know 
> what software those of you who use a mac also use.
> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage 
> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> Robert Dittman
>
> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic 
> estate planning.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 17 02:37:33 2013
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:37:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <B0821A11958B48BAA620C223BABC661F@Workstation>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu><3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com><57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com><6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>	<00b301ce3ad6$824586d0$86d09470$@labarrelaw.com>
	<B0821A11958B48BAA620C223BABC661F@Workstation>
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Rod:

Let's explore access to teleconferencing so that the sole protocol is
general kindness and professional courtesy to others.  Otherwise, a more
relaxed and open atmosphere is far superior to protocol.

Dan McBride, Attorney
Fort Worth, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Alcidonis, Esq.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:50 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Well, if it is an NABL call, I would need to make sure that I am following
proper protocols so I am not out of order. In that case, further
instructions would be needed from you, Scott, on how to proceed. Either the
leadership will take over and make it happen, or I can be tasked with the
responsibility. I am fine with it one way or the other.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
www.alcidonislaw.com

Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
Message-----
From: Scott C. LaBarre
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:13 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
continuing series of NABL telecons.

Best,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
Ross Doerr


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
it.

Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?

Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
<attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call 
> or
something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
some from one another?
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
> software
>
> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own 
> practice.  I
hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know 
>> what
software those of you who use a mac also use.
>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
on.
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> Robert Dittman
>>
>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic 
>> estate
planning.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From tmeloy at fuse.net  Wed Apr 17 03:37:16 2013
From: tmeloy at fuse.net (Timothy J. Meloy)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:37:16 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <014c01ce3b14$84657770$8d306650$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50528F3C-F424-454A-9560-6F2DB2E9D6F6@stmarytx.edu>
	<3907E5B3-BDD3-4B15-B094-6BC2BDCEAF2A@gmail.com>
	<57FC76EC42EA426C86AAD6B5F4E6E3DA@Workstation>
	<F264C6AE-972B-44E5-83EF-A34B511F86A8@gmail.com>
	<6185A1656A3E4484B3105734CFF495D5@mycomputer>
	<00b301ce3ad6$824586d0$86d09470$@labarrelaw.com>
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I Would be interested in joining the call as well. Keep me for posted on further info.
TJ

On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:37 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Rod:
> 
> Let's explore access to teleconferencing so that the sole protocol is
> general kindness and professional courtesy to others.  Otherwise, a more
> relaxed and open atmosphere is far superior to protocol.
> 
> Dan McBride, Attorney
> Fort Worth, Texas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
> Alcidonis, Esq.
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:50 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> Well, if it is an NABL call, I would need to make sure that I am following
> proper protocols so I am not out of order. In that case, further
> instructions would be needed from you, Scott, on how to proceed. Either the
> leadership will take over and make it happen, or I can be tasked with the
> responsibility. I am fine with it one way or the other.
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
> 
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
> Message-----
> From: Scott C. LaBarre
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:13 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
> continuing series of NABL telecons.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
> Ross Doerr
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
> fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
> So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
> it.
> 
> Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
> <attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:
> 
>> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call 
>> or
> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
> some from one another?
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> Alcidonis Law Office
>> 2824 Cottman Avenue
>> Suite 15
>> Philadelphia, PA 19149
>> O: (215) 305-8085
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> www.alcidonislaw.com
>> 
>> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management 
>> software
>> 
>> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own 
>> practice.  I
> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
> my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
> experiences.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know 
>>> what
> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
> on.
>>> 
>>> thanks for the help.
>>> 
>>> Robert Dittman
>>> 
>>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic 
>>> estate
> planning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindlaw:
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>>> il.com
>> 
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From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Wed Apr 17 03:54:40 2013
From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:54:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
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My expectation was for us to hav a more informal, more relaxed itneraction, 
as Dan has mentioned. We just talk amongst ourselves offering ideas, 
experiences, frustrations, techniques, etc as it relates to practicing law 
as a solo attorney.

Once I know how we will proceed, I will begin the process and possibly get 
something setup by end of this month.

Rod Alcidonis, Esquire
Alcidonis Law Office
2824 Cottman Avenue
Suite 15
Philadelphia, PA 19149
O: (215) 305-8085
Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com
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No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury
-----Original Message----- 
From: Timothy J. Meloy
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:37 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software

I Would be interested in joining the call as well. Keep me for posted on 
further info.
TJ

On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:37 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Rod:
>
> Let's explore access to teleconferencing so that the sole protocol is
> general kindness and professional courtesy to others.  Otherwise, a more
> relaxed and open atmosphere is far superior to protocol.
>
> Dan McBride, Attorney
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
> Alcidonis, Esq.
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:50 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> Well, if it is an NABL call, I would need to make sure that I am following
> proper protocols so I am not out of order. In that case, further
> instructions would be needed from you, Scott, on how to proceed. Either 
> the
> leadership will take over and make it happen, or I can be tasked with the
> responsibility. I am fine with it one way or the other.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> www.alcidonislaw.com
>
> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
> Message-----
> From: Scott C. LaBarre
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:13 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
> continuing series of NABL telecons.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross 
> Doerr
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
> Ross Doerr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>
> Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
> fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a 
> solo.
> So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
> it.
>
> Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
> <attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:
>
>> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call
>> or
> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly 
> learn
> some from one another?
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> Alcidonis Law Office
>> 2824 Cottman Avenue
>> Suite 15
>> Philadelphia, PA 19149
>> O: (215) 305-8085
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> www.alcidonislaw.com
>>
>> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management
>> software
>>
>> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own
>> practice.  I
> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be 
> starting
> my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
> experiences.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know
>>> what
> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
> on.
>>>
>>> thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Robert Dittman
>>>
>>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic
>>> estate
> planning.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 05:44:09 2013
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:44:09 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
In-Reply-To: <D5DFD4AE49B64B3F8162827C773CCE56@RodPC>
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	<D5DFD4AE49B64B3F8162827C773CCE56@RodPC>
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Awesome.  Thanks, Rod.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esquire" <Attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:

> My expectation was for us to hav a more informal, more relaxed itneraction, as Dan has mentioned. We just talk amongst ourselves offering ideas, experiences, frustrations, techniques, etc as it relates to practicing law as a solo attorney.
> 
> Once I know how we will proceed, I will begin the process and possibly get something setup by end of this month.
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, Esquire
> Alcidonis Law Office
> 2824 Cottman Avenue
> Suite 15
> Philadelphia, PA 19149
> O: (215) 305-8085
> Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com
> www.Alcidonislaw.com
> 
> 
> No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury
> -----Original Message----- From: Timothy J. Meloy
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:37 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
> 
> I Would be interested in joining the call as well. Keep me for posted on further info.
> TJ
> 
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:37 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Rod:
>> 
>> Let's explore access to teleconferencing so that the sole protocol is
>> general kindness and professional courtesy to others.  Otherwise, a more
>> relaxed and open atmosphere is far superior to protocol.
>> 
>> Dan McBride, Attorney
>> Fort Worth, Texas
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod
>> Alcidonis, Esq.
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:50 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>> 
>> Well, if it is an NABL call, I would need to make sure that I am following
>> proper protocols so I am not out of order. In that case, further
>> instructions would be needed from you, Scott, on how to proceed. Either the
>> leadership will take over and make it happen, or I can be tasked with the
>> responsibility. I am fine with it one way or the other.
>> 
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> Alcidonis Law Office
>> 2824 Cottman Avenue
>> Suite 15
>> Philadelphia, PA 19149
>> O: (215) 305-8085
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> www.alcidonislaw.com
>> 
>> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original
>> Message-----
>> From: Scott C. LaBarre
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:13 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>> 
>> A call is a great idea and maybe we can organize one soon as one of our
>> continuing series of NABL telecons.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:52 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>> 
>> IF you decide to do a conference call, I'd appreciate being in on it.
>> Ross Doerr
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:15 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management software
>> 
>> Hey Rod,  I'm moving to Philly because my wife is going to Wharton in the
>> fall.  So I'm leaving my cushy government job. I may find myself as a solo.
>> So if you guys have this conference call, I'd really like to listen in on
>> it.
>> 
>> Do you have any advice about living in Philadelphia?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Rod Alcidonis, Esq."
>> <attorney at alcidonislaw.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> To the solos on the list: do you guys want to setup a conference call
>>> or
>> something where we can chat about our respective practice and possibly learn
>> some from one another?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> Alcidonis Law Office
>>> 2824 Cottman Avenue
>>> Suite 15
>>> Philadelphia, PA 19149
>>> O: (215) 305-8085
>>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>>> www.alcidonislaw.com
>>> 
>>> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:25 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] law practice on a mac practice management
>>> software
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert, that is so exciting that you are starting your own
>>> practice.  I
>> hope you keep us updated on how things are going with it.  I may be starting
>> my own practice in about six months.  It would be great to hear about your
>> experiences.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, "Dittman, Robert" <rdittman at stmarytx.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> So it's time to start my practice.  I use a mac and wanted to know
>>>> what
>> software those of you who use a mac also use.
>>>> I also would like to know what software or services you use to manage
>> your practice ie rocket matter, creo, time matters attorney amicus and so
>> on.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for the help.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Dittman
>>>> 
>>>> p.s. the areas law include criminal defense, family law, and basic
>>>> estate
>> planning.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
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From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 18 01:07:29 2013
From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:07:29 -0300
Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2487D5ADC08EE9B7C028D61CDCF0@phx.gbl>

Good evening:

Can someone explain me what is a escrow deposit under the Rent Withholding Act?

I am trying to figure out what kind of deposit is this but am not sure.

Cheers.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com




From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net  Thu Apr 18 13:24:28 2013
From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net (Rob Tabor)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:24:28 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question
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References: <BLU0-SMTP2487D5ADC08EE9B7C028D61CDCF0@phx.gbl>
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Hi, Marcos and list.

I'm not familiar with the "rent withholding act" that you mention, but in
general an escro account is a dedicated bank account in which the account
owner's sole purpose is  to transmit funds to another party at a specified
time. The most common type of escro account is used by a home-owner whose
property is under mortgage to ensure that homeowner's insurance premiums and
property tax liabilities are paid promptly as they come due. Similarly, a
small business owner may create an escro account to ensure that payroll
taxes including FICA (Social Security) withholding, unemployment insurance
contributions, etc. are paid to the state and Federal governments on time. I
hope this helps to explain the role and purposes of escro accounts, but
please feel free to ask any follow-up questions if you need further
clarification.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos
Rodrigues
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question

Good evening:

Can someone explain me what is a escrow deposit under the Rent Withholding
Act?

I am trying to figure out what kind of deposit is this but am not sure.

Cheers.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com



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From awebb2168 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 21:18:39 2013
From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:18:39 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Special education question
Message-ID: <00af01ce3c7a$4cde8050$e69b80f0$@com>

Dear List,

 

Is there anyone here with expertise on special education law?  I expect so,
and wonder if someone could shed some light on my question.

 

I'm helping a client with a visual impairment (not severe) who is wrangling
with his local school district in order to qualify for special education
services. As many of you probably know, eligibility categories for special
education are a matter of federal law, set forth in the IDEA (Individuals
With Disabilities Education Act).  One of those categories is for students
with visual impairments, and the full text of the eligibility standard reads
as follows:

 

Visual Impairment Including Blindness
<http://nichcy.org/disability/specific/visualimpairment/> .

.means an impairment in vision that, even with correction, adversely affects
<http://nichcy.org/disability/categories#adversely>  a child's educational
performance. The term includes both partial sight and blindness.

 

 

With regard to the client I mentioned, it's something of an open question at
this point as to whether his vision impairment really does adversely affect
his academic performance.  However, the issue is that the school district
has unilaterally drafted its own numerical cutoffs for whether students can
qualify for services on the basis of visual impairment. i.e., They have
disqualified this kid based on the fact that his vision is better than 20/70
uncorrected in his dominant eye, and that he has a visual field of more than
a certain number of degrees.  This appears blatantly illegal to me, I just
am trying to make sure I'm not missing something.  

 

There are no supplemental state guidelines (I'm in Illinois); I contacted
the State Board of Education, and they informed me that when it comes to
setting eligibility standards, they simply refer local school districts to
the federal standards.  I'm not aware of any supplemental guidelines at the
federal level, either.  As best I can tell, the text I pasted is the sum
total of the guidelines . if the student has a vision problem that adversely
affects academic performance, then the student qualifies for special ed,
simple as that.

 

So, does anyone have any specific knowledge or comments to add on this
matter?  Anyone ever incurred a similar situation?  I think it goes without
saying that this "sounds fishy" or "can't be right," so I'll ask folks to
just share feedback based on personal knowledge, research and experience if
possible.  This seems like a slam dunk to me, but of course I'm hungry for
additional perspectives if there are any.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Andrew Webb


From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Thu Apr 18 22:17:23 2013
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:17:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Special education question
In-Reply-To: <00af01ce3c7a$4cde8050$e69b80f0$@com>
References: <00af01ce3c7a$4cde8050$e69b80f0$@com>
Message-ID: <F8AF7FE2971A7E468ABC5B960EF7609D03B38F3A@spexch2k301.central.pima.gov>

Working at juvenile court, I have many clients who have had 504 plans
based on learning disabilities.  I know that's a different thing, but if
the child doesn't get accepted based on the arbitrary vision cut-off,
perhaps the visual impairment could be characterized as something which
causes or contributes to a learning disability, just like dyslexia or
other print disorders....  Just a thought for a way to get help now,
while working out the arbitrary barriers on the other category.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Webb
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:19 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] Special education question

Dear List,

 

Is there anyone here with expertise on special education law?  I expect
so, and wonder if someone could shed some light on my question.

 

I'm helping a client with a visual impairment (not severe) who is
wrangling with his local school district in order to qualify for special
education services. As many of you probably know, eligibility categories
for special education are a matter of federal law, set forth in the IDEA
(Individuals With Disabilities Education Act).  One of those categories
is for students with visual impairments, and the full text of the
eligibility standard reads as follows:

 

Visual Impairment Including Blindness
<http://nichcy.org/disability/specific/visualimpairment/> .

.means an impairment in vision that, even with correction, adversely
affects <http://nichcy.org/disability/categories#adversely>  a child's
educational performance. The term includes both partial sight and
blindness.

 

 

With regard to the client I mentioned, it's something of an open
question at this point as to whether his vision impairment really does
adversely affect his academic performance.  However, the issue is that
the school district has unilaterally drafted its own numerical cutoffs
for whether students can qualify for services on the basis of visual
impairment. i.e., They have disqualified this kid based on the fact that
his vision is better than 20/70 uncorrected in his dominant eye, and
that he has a visual field of more than a certain number of degrees.
This appears blatantly illegal to me, I just am trying to make sure I'm
not missing something.  

 

There are no supplemental state guidelines (I'm in Illinois); I
contacted the State Board of Education, and they informed me that when
it comes to setting eligibility standards, they simply refer local
school districts to the federal standards.  I'm not aware of any
supplemental guidelines at the federal level, either.  As best I can
tell, the text I pasted is the sum total of the guidelines . if the
student has a vision problem that adversely affects academic
performance, then the student qualifies for special ed, simple as that.

 

So, does anyone have any specific knowledge or comments to add on this
matter?  Anyone ever incurred a similar situation?  I think it goes
without saying that this "sounds fishy" or "can't be right," so I'll ask
folks to just share feedback based on personal knowledge, research and
experience if possible.  This seems like a slam dunk to me, but of
course I'm hungry for additional perspectives if there are any.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Andrew Webb

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From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 19 00:38:30 2013
From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:38:30 -0300
Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question
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Thanks Rob, it helped a lot.	
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com



Em 18/04/2013, às 10:24, Rob Tabor escreveu:

> Hi, Marcos and list.
> 
> I'm not familiar with the "rent withholding act" that you mention, but in
> general an escro account is a dedicated bank account in which the account
> owner's sole purpose is  to transmit funds to another party at a specified
> time. The most common type of escro account is used by a home-owner whose
> property is under mortgage to ensure that homeowner's insurance premiums and
> property tax liabilities are paid promptly as they come due. Similarly, a
> small business owner may create an escro account to ensure that payroll
> taxes including FICA (Social Security) withholding, unemployment insurance
> contributions, etc. are paid to the state and Federal governments on time. I
> hope this helps to explain the role and purposes of escro accounts, but
> please feel free to ask any follow-up questions if you need further
> clarification.
> 
> Best regards,
> Rob Tabor
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos
> Rodrigues
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:07 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question
> 
> Good evening:
> 
> Can someone explain me what is a escrow deposit under the Rent Withholding
> Act?
> 
> I am trying to figure out what kind of deposit is this but am not sure.
> 
> Cheers.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 19 00:52:29 2013
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:52:29 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] A quick question
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In some states an escrow deposit is a deposit that a tenant would make in to 
an escrow account in lieu of a rent payment while there is a dispute with a 
landlord. The money is placed in to a bank account where it is held until 
the matter is resolved if a claim was filed in court. It is usually done 
when there are questions or disputes regarding habitability of premises or 
where maintenance might not have been done in a timely manner. As I am not 
an attorney and don't know the state where you reside I would recommend that 
you consult with an attorney. If you are involved in a land lord-tenant 
dispute there are services available to you through many legal aid programs. 
You can also consult with your local bar association for referrals.
Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
5590-266-9237
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> Good evening:
>
> Can someone explain me what is a escrow deposit under the Rent Withholding 
> Act?
>
> I am trying to figure out what kind of deposit is this but am not sure.
>
> Cheers.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Fri Apr 19 14:43:06 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:43:06 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Architect of the Capitol: Summer law intern position
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From: Deborah Laufer [mailto:list at adrnetwork.org]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:01 AM
To: ;
Subject: Architect of the Capitol: Summer law intern position

As you may know, the practice of the AOC Office of General Counsel includes a good measure of work dealing with mediation preparation and participation.

Attached is the announcement, which has a short deadline of May 1. If possible, I would appreciate your including this announcement in your regular ADR network email, just in case you have readers who know of qualified law student candidates.

Thanks. --Kevin

Kevin Mulshine
Deputy General Counsel
Office of General Counsel
Office of Architect of the Capitol
H2-265 Ford House Office Building
202-226-2196/202-329-6451 (cell)
Fax: 202-225-5927
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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Fri Apr 19 15:25:04 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:25:04 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FYI: Opportunity, FACA
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Greetings:


Do find the below stated opportunity. Thanks.





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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Fri Apr 19 17:47:52 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 17:47:52 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Announcements: 22 April and J.; 2 May; Nov. 2013
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Greetings:



This is to wish all of you well. Specifically, this is to encourage you to register for the below stated events. For all of these, discounted rates for students are available. As specifically is in relation to those matters hosted or organized by the Lyceum, discounted rates are also available to veterans.



1). Do note that, on 22 April, the next animal law symposium will occur at 519 West Fayette Street; Baltimore, Md.; Across from the bar association. After the symposium, some short remarks will be made in honor of the Mid-Atlantic Journal on L. and Public Policy. Speakers from the symposium are eligible to publish their remarks or presentations within the second issue of the Journal, which is now being compiled.

The morning panel on breed specific legislation will be compelling; and not only because I am facilitating. As part of the panel, the impact of breed specific legislation on service dogs will be discussed.

:)

Again, the Lyceum is honored to have received the support of the Maryland Bar foundation.

To bring the second issue to a reality, volunteer staff editors are needed.


2). On 2 May, the annual spring dinner of the Alternative Dispute Resolution Section of the Md. State Bar Association will occur at 519 West Fayette Street; Baltimore, Md. At each annual dinner, the Chief Judge Bell Award is bestowed on a leader in dispute resolution. The Section will bestow this year's award on the current Executive Director of the Md. Conflict Resol. Office.


3). Save the date:  In November, 2013, the Lyceum will have its second dinner forum in partnership with the Museum of Maritime Pets. The next dinner forum will discuss access to the cultural arts. Two outstanding speakers (a representative from the Smithsonian and a representative from the Kennedy Ctr.) have been secured or confirmed.


4). By the annual meeting, a good friend and mentor of mine and I should have information about a twenty hour seminar on some form of animal disputes and mediation to announce.


5). This is to wish C.J. Bell a healthy and happy time of repose in his retirement from the Court.


Last night, I received a prestigious award from American University, Wash. College of L. I do want to thank my good friend and dearest colleague Deb for introducing me and presenting the award to me. There are truly some great students at Am. U. Pilot navigated with great skill and attractive gate. In short, I am pleased to be a notable public official with a disability, who is partnered with such great friends, including, those of the furry variety. Wash. College of L. should be commended for its encouragement of pro bono and public service.


In closing, for more information, do consult the website of the bar association at www.msba.org.


Sincerely,
Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M.

From law at cordovaesq.com  Fri Apr 19 19:42:24 2013
From: law at cordovaesq.com (Marina Cordova)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:42:24 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Special education question
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Andrew,
I do some spec ed advocacy in New Mexico.  Its very common in NM as well for
school districts, even our own school for the blind, to assist the school
districts in ensuring that many low vision students are cut off from
services. This has included even students that are legally blind (20/200 or
worse).  

I recommend three steps (1) obtain a functional vision evaluation from
someone you know is licensed/qualified and you can trust to thoroughly
determine the student's impairments, inability to read, or function, etc.;
(2) write a letter to the Director of Special Education for that school
district, citing ;laws they are violating, recommending the accommodations
the student needs, and threatening to file a grievance with state if the
school district does not provide needed services within set deadline, ie. 30
days (copy the letter to superintendent, student's principal, and state
education agency; and (3) if district does not comply by deadline, file a
grievance with your state department of education, after obtaining the
evaluation.

You are right that the standard in IDEA is based on whether the student can
function, learn, read, etc.  You can email me directly at law at cordovaesq.com
or call if you have more questions.

Sincerely,
Marina A. Cordova
Attorney at Law
1000 Cordova Place, # 234
Santa Fe, NM 87505
Office (505) 467-8395
Fax (505) 467-8746
PLEASE NOTE MY CHANGE OF EMAIL ADDRESS TO: law at cordovaesq.com


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:19 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] Special education question

Dear List,

 

Is there anyone here with expertise on special education law?  I expect so,
and wonder if someone could shed some light on my question.

 

I'm helping a client with a visual impairment (not severe) who is wrangling
with his local school district in order to qualify for special education
services. As many of you probably know, eligibility categories for special
education are a matter of federal law, set forth in the IDEA (Individuals
With Disabilities Education Act).  One of those categories is for students
with visual impairments, and the full text of the eligibility standard reads
as follows:

 

Visual Impairment Including Blindness
<http://nichcy.org/disability/specific/visualimpairment/> .

.means an impairment in vision that, even with correction, adversely affects
<http://nichcy.org/disability/categories#adversely>  a child's educational
performance. The term includes both partial sight and blindness.

 

 

With regard to the client I mentioned, it's something of an open question at
this point as to whether his vision impairment really does adversely affect
his academic performance.  However, the issue is that the school district
has unilaterally drafted its own numerical cutoffs for whether students can
qualify for services on the basis of visual impairment. i.e., They have
disqualified this kid based on the fact that his vision is better than 20/70
uncorrected in his dominant eye, and that he has a visual field of more than
a certain number of degrees.
This appears blatantly illegal to me, I just am trying to make sure I'm not
missing something.  

 

There are no supplemental state guidelines (I'm in Illinois); I contacted
the State Board of Education, and they informed me that when it comes to
setting eligibility standards, they simply refer local school districts to
the federal standards.  I'm not aware of any supplemental guidelines at the
federal level, either.  As best I can tell, the text I pasted is the sum
total of the guidelines . if the student has a vision problem that adversely
affects academic performance, then the student qualifies for special ed,
simple as that.

 

So, does anyone have any specific knowledge or comments to add on this
matter?  Anyone ever incurred a similar situation?  I think it goes without
saying that this "sounds fishy" or "can't be right," so I'll ask folks to
just share feedback based on personal knowledge, research and experience if
possible.  This seems like a slam dunk to me, but of course I'm hungry for
additional perspectives if there are any.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Andrew Webb

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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Fri Apr 19 21:11:13 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 17:11:13 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Dept. of Justice Settlement
Message-ID: <C1EA546AC00C46FB8441255089ED689A@mycomputer>

I thought people on the list may be interested in this ADA Settlement.
Ross A. Doerr Esq.

The Justice Department today announced an agreement with the city of
Jacksonville, Florida, to improve access for people with disabilities to
civic life in Jacksonville.  The agreement was reached under Project Civic
Access (PCA), the Justice Department's initiative to ensure that cities,
towns and counties throughout the country comply with the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA).   

People interested in finding out more about the ADA and the Department's
settlement agreement with the City of Jacksonville can access the ADA
website at ADA.gov, or call the toll-free ADA Information Line at (800)
514-0301 (voice) or (800) 514-0383 (TTY).


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From emrene at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 20 03:34:57 2013
From: emrene at earthlink.net (Elizabeth Rene)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:34:57 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Guardianship practice
Message-ID: <4EE4147FA23445289FA976E4372CB809@elizabethrene>

Hi all,

Just wanted to pass along an interesting bit of information about an area of 
practice I'd known nothing about, with the suggestion that you, too, might 
find it intriguing.

Last week, I attended a two-day CLE seminar put on by my county bar 
association to certify applicants for the superior court's guardian ad litem 
registry.  By statute, lawyers and qualified nonlawyers can register to be 
appointed by the court to serve as guardians ad litem (GALS).  GALS, 
operating within the terms of their appointing court order, are authorized 
and empowered to investigate the merits of petitions for the guardianship of 
"alleged incapacitated persons" (read "vulnerable adults") in the best 
interests of that person, to recommend the appointment of a guardian or some 
other less restrictive intervention, to support or veto the petitioner's 
guardian nominee, to recommend a certified professional guardian independent 
of the family, or to support or qualify the wishes of the alleged 
incapacitated person, given the relevant facts.  GALS can get help in the 
administration of these duties from the court commissioner by requesting 
further formal instructions re their appointing order, and their role ends 
when the court determines what to do.

Lawyers can serve as GALS, as certified professional guardians (CPG's) who 
are also trained and appointed by the court, or they can represent the 
alleged incapacitated  person, who has the right to counsel in any 
guardianship proceeding.

Whether a GAL, a CPG, or an appointed attorney, the lawyer serving in this 
practice gets paid an hourly rate, by the court if the person involved has 
limited means, or by the alleged incapacitated person whose wealth permits 
private payment--but the rate is determined by the court to prevent 
exploitation.  The nonlawyer GAL or CPG is paid in the same way.

GAL appointments are short-term, the work is intense, and the deadlines are 
tight.  But a sentient GAL could do a lot to help a vulnerable adult keep 
his dignity while shielding him from self-destruction or staving off the 
clutches of greedy relatives.  GALS are mandated in Washington to take the 
least custodial path to this end.

Other kinds of guardians ad litem serve the courts, e.g. in family law 
custody or child dependency proceedings, or adoptions.  These, I understand, 
take their authority from other statutes.

Seems to me that those of us who write to this list could be particularly 
attuned to the kinds of issues that might arise in guardianship proceedings, 
and especially suited to assess the best interests of someone thought by 
others to have less than full capacities.  I think this because of our own 
commitment to self-determination.

Every state appoints guardians.  Most likely, every state court appoints 
guardians ad litem to help determine whether a guardianship should be 
established.  Some states may have established standards for this, others 
may not.

But those of us able blind lawyers who are looking to round out a practice, 
or who are wondering what to do until full-time employment comes, might want 
to think about whether some guardianship work might help to keep the wolf 
away from our own doors, and the lion from somebody else's.

Good luck.

Elizabeth

 



From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 17:47:38 2013
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt Manwaring)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:47:38 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Dept. of Justice Settlement
In-Reply-To: <C1EA546AC00C46FB8441255089ED689A@mycomputer>
References: <C1EA546AC00C46FB8441255089ED689A@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <CABDhuevQe0nyWXKx4xTKakq_T1+sFpiKHeNow8nE=toApBmUYg@mail.gmail.com>

This seems kind of vague, and I'll freely admit I don't have the time
or inclination to research all the specific provisions of this
settlement.  Any of you lawyer types want to summarize for me?
  Best,
Kirt Manwaring

On 4/19/13, Ross Doerr <rumpole at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I thought people on the list may be interested in this ADA Settlement.
> Ross A. Doerr Esq.
>
> The Justice Department today announced an agreement with the city of
> Jacksonville, Florida, to improve access for people with disabilities to
> civic life in Jacksonville.  The agreement was reached under Project Civic
> Access (PCA), the Justice Department's initiative to ensure that cities,
> towns and counties throughout the country comply with the Americans with
> Disabilities Act (ADA).
>
> People interested in finding out more about the ADA and the Department's
> settlement agreement with the City of Jacksonville can access the ADA
> website at ADA.gov, or call the toll-free ADA Information Line at (800)
> 514-0301 (voice) or (800) 514-0383 (TTY).
>
>
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Apr 24 15:35:54 2013
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:35:54 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
	Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
In-Reply-To: <AC42A407EAAE7B46828D01D96C3A337902A42D35@HERBERT.alicia.local>
References: <AC42A407EAAE7B46828D01D96C3A337902A42D35@HERBERT.alicia.local>
Message-ID: <002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>

Fyi


-----Original Message-----
From: Young Lawyers Committee [mailto:GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG]
On Behalf Of Rich Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:31 AM
To: GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
Subject: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer Fellowship
Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
Importance: High

Dear ABA GPSolo Young Lawyers Committee Members:

 

The final countdown is here.  The deadline to apply for the 2013/2014
GPSolo Young Lawyers Fellows Program is only one week away. All
applications must be submitted by no later than Tuesday, April 30th. 

 

This great program provides opportunities for young lawyers to develop
their leadership skills, become active in GPSolo, and to be integrally
involved in the GPSolo's meetings and committees.

 

As you'll see from the details on the website, all Fellows receive
funding to GPSolo's fall and spring meetings.  The 2013 Fall Meeting
will be in Lexington, Kentucky from October 3-5.  The 2014 Spring
Meeting will be in Las Vegas, Nevada in May 2014. 

 

For more information and the application, visit
http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fello
wship.html. 

 

Please feel free to forward this email to others that may be interested
in this opportunity.  If you have any questions, please contact the
GPSolo Division at 312-988-5659 or gpsolo at americanbar.org.

 

Thanks,

 

Rich Williamson

 

____________________________________

Richard D. Williamson, Esq.

Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson

50 West Liberty Street, Suite 600

Reno, Nevada 89501

Telephone:  (775) 329-5600

Facsimile:  (775) 348-8300

Email:  Rich at NVLawyers.com <mailto:Rich at NVLawyers.com> 

Please visit our Website at: www.nvlawyers.com
<http://www.nvlawyers.com/> 

 

 

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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Wed Apr 24 15:38:02 2013
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:38:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Cell phone app and web site
Message-ID: <B31B1340B04F4177BF111D1E32A6B40F@mycomputer>

I recently ran across this web site and downloadable cell phone app that is quite interesting.

It is AXS Map and is aimed at individuals with a disability.

For those of us who are professionals, it has potential on numerous levels both as a user and as a source of research.

Htt;://www.axsmap.com

There is a video to listen to or watch if you go to the link for axs map TV and scroll down to "introducing axs map"

I use JAWS and found the web site to be quite accessible.

Ross

From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 15:46:44 2013
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
 Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
In-Reply-To: <002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <AC42A407EAAE7B46828D01D96C3A337902A42D35@HERBERT.alicia.local>
	<002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <CAKs_uDTRheACVqNMNCoEoi_g2ppzO7wJPpOmw0OkkpF=V8C6=g@mail.gmail.com>

The link does  not seem to be working.

Deepa

On 4/24/13, Scott C. LaBarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com> wrote:
> Fyi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young Lawyers Committee [mailto:GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG]
> On Behalf Of Rich Williamson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
> Subject: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer Fellowship
> Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
> Importance: High
>
> Dear ABA GPSolo Young Lawyers Committee Members:
>
>
>
> The final countdown is here.  The deadline to apply for the 2013/2014
> GPSolo Young Lawyers Fellows Program is only one week away. All
> applications must be submitted by no later than Tuesday, April 30th.
>
>
>
> This great program provides opportunities for young lawyers to develop
> their leadership skills, become active in GPSolo, and to be integrally
> involved in the GPSolo's meetings and committees.
>
>
>
> As you'll see from the details on the website, all Fellows receive
> funding to GPSolo's fall and spring meetings.  The 2013 Fall Meeting
> will be in Lexington, Kentucky from October 3-5.  The 2014 Spring
> Meeting will be in Las Vegas, Nevada in May 2014.
>
>
>
> For more information and the application, visit
> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fello
> wship.html.
>
>
>
> Please feel free to forward this email to others that may be interested
> in this opportunity.  If you have any questions, please contact the
> GPSolo Division at 312-988-5659 or gpsolo at americanbar.org.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rich Williamson
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
>
> Richard D. Williamson, Esq.
>
> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson
>
> 50 West Liberty Street, Suite 600
>
> Reno, Nevada 89501
>
> Telephone:  (775) 329-5600
>
> Facsimile:  (775) 348-8300
>
> Email:  Rich at NVLawyers.com <mailto:Rich at NVLawyers.com>
>
> Please visit our Website at: www.nvlawyers.com
> <http://www.nvlawyers.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE:
>
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> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson.  This message and any file(s)
> or attachment(s) transmitted with it are confidential, intended only for
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> proprietary, protected by the attorney work-product doctrine, subject to
> the attorney-client privilege, or is otherwise protected against
> unauthorized use or disclosure.  This message and any file(s) or
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> Any disclosure, distribution, copying, or use of this information by
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Apr 24 15:59:19 2013
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:59:19 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
	Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
In-Reply-To: <CAKs_uDTRheACVqNMNCoEoi_g2ppzO7wJPpOmw0OkkpF=V8C6=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AC42A407EAAE7B46828D01D96C3A337902A42D35@HERBERT.alicia.local>	<002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>
	<CAKs_uDTRheACVqNMNCoEoi_g2ppzO7wJPpOmw0OkkpF=V8C6=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701ce4104$ae47f8b0$0ad7ea10$@labarrelaw.com>

Hmmm, perhaps it got scrambled up because this message has been forwarded a
couple of times.  I suggest going to www.americanbar.org/genpractice and
looking on GP Solo's website for the application.

Best,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa
Goraya
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:47 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13

The link does  not seem to be working.

Deepa

On 4/24/13, Scott C. LaBarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com> wrote:
> Fyi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young Lawyers Committee
[mailto:GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG]
> On Behalf Of Rich Williamson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
> Subject: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer
Fellowship
> Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
> Importance: High
>
> Dear ABA GPSolo Young Lawyers Committee Members:
>
>
>
> The final countdown is here.  The deadline to apply for the 2013/2014
> GPSolo Young Lawyers Fellows Program is only one week away. All
> applications must be submitted by no later than Tuesday, April 30th.
>
>
>
> This great program provides opportunities for young lawyers to develop
> their leadership skills, become active in GPSolo, and to be integrally
> involved in the GPSolo's meetings and committees.
>
>
>
> As you'll see from the details on the website, all Fellows receive
> funding to GPSolo's fall and spring meetings.  The 2013 Fall Meeting
> will be in Lexington, Kentucky from October 3-5.  The 2014 Spring
> Meeting will be in Las Vegas, Nevada in May 2014.
>
>
>
> For more information and the application, visit
> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fello
> wship.html.
>
>
>
> Please feel free to forward this email to others that may be interested
> in this opportunity.  If you have any questions, please contact the
> GPSolo Division at 312-988-5659 or gpsolo at americanbar.org.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rich Williamson
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
>
> Richard D. Williamson, Esq.
>
> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson
>
> 50 West Liberty Street, Suite 600
>
> Reno, Nevada 89501
>
> Telephone:  (775) 329-5600
>
> Facsimile:  (775) 348-8300
>
> Email:  Rich at NVLawyers.com <mailto:Rich at NVLawyers.com>
>
> Please visit our Website at: www.nvlawyers.com
> <http://www.nvlawyers.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE:
>
> PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL.  This message originates from the law firm of
> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson.  This message and any file(s)
> or attachment(s) transmitted with it are confidential, intended only for
> the named recipient, and may contain information that is a trade secret,
> proprietary, protected by the attorney work-product doctrine, subject to
> the attorney-client privilege, or is otherwise protected against
> unauthorized use or disclosure.  This message and any file(s) or
> attachment(s) transmitted with it are transmitted based on a reasonable
> expectation of privacy consistent with ABA Formal Opinion No. 99-413.
> Any disclosure, distribution, copying, or use of this information by
> anyone other than the intended recipient, regardless of address or
> routing, is strictly prohibited.  If you receive this message in error,
> please advise the sender by immediate reply and completely delete the
> original message (which includes your deleted items folder).  Personal
> messages express only the view of the sender and are not attributable to
> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson.  IRS CIRCULAR 230 DISCLOSURE:
> We advise you that any tax advice contained in this communication
> (including any attachments) is not intended to be used, and cannot be
> used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties imposed under the United
> States Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or
> recommending to another person any tax-related matter addressed herein.
> TRANSMISSION OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOT INTENDED TO CREATE, AND RECEIPT
> DOES NOT CONSTITUTE, AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT RELATIONSHIP.
>
>
>
>
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From amatney at hf-law.com  Wed Apr 24 16:11:32 2013
From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:11:32 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
 Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
In-Reply-To: <002701ce4104$ae47f8b0$0ad7ea10$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <AC42A407EAAE7B46828D01D96C3A337902A42D35@HERBERT.alicia.local>
	<002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>
	<CAKs_uDTRheACVqNMNCoEoi_g2ppzO7wJPpOmw0OkkpF=V8C6=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<002701ce4104$ae47f8b0$0ad7ea10$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225352180@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com>

Try this. I just took out the greater-than signs and put it on one line. It works.

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fellowship.html







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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. LaBarre
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:59 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13

Hmmm, perhaps it got scrambled up because this message has been forwarded a
couple of times.  I suggest going to www.americanbar.org/genpractice and
looking on GP Solo's website for the application.

Best,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa
Goraya
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:47 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13

The link does  not seem to be working.

Deepa

On 4/24/13, Scott C. LaBarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com> wrote:
> Fyi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young Lawyers Committee
[mailto:GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG]
> On Behalf Of Rich Williamson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
> Subject: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer
Fellowship
> Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
> Importance: High
>
> Dear ABA GPSolo Young Lawyers Committee Members:
>
>
>
> The final countdown is here.  The deadline to apply for the 2013/2014
> GPSolo Young Lawyers Fellows Program is only one week away. All
> applications must be submitted by no later than Tuesday, April 30th.
>
>
>
> This great program provides opportunities for young lawyers to develop
> their leadership skills, become active in GPSolo, and to be integrally
> involved in the GPSolo's meetings and committees.
>
>
>
> As you'll see from the details on the website, all Fellows receive
> funding to GPSolo's fall and spring meetings.  The 2013 Fall Meeting
> will be in Lexington, Kentucky from October 3-5.  The 2014 Spring
> Meeting will be in Las Vegas, Nevada in May 2014.
>
>
>
> For more information and the application, visit
> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fello
> wship.html.
>
>
>
> Please feel free to forward this email to others that may be interested
> in this opportunity.  If you have any questions, please contact the
> GPSolo Division at 312-988-5659 or gpsolo at americanbar.org.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rich Williamson
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
>
> Richard D. Williamson, Esq.
>
> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson
>
> 50 West Liberty Street, Suite 600
>
> Reno, Nevada 89501
>
> Telephone:  (775) 329-5600
>
> Facsimile:  (775) 348-8300
>
> Email:  Rich at NVLawyers.com <mailto:Rich at NVLawyers.com>
>
> Please visit our Website at: www.nvlawyers.com
> <http://www.nvlawyers.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
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From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 16:12:41 2013
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:12:41 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young
 Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
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	<002f01ce4101$68f766e0$3ae634a0$@labarrelaw.com>
	<CAKs_uDTRheACVqNMNCoEoi_g2ppzO7wJPpOmw0OkkpF=V8C6=g@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks.

On 4/24/13, Scott C. LaBarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com> wrote:
> Hmmm, perhaps it got scrambled up because this message has been forwarded a
> couple of times.  I suggest going to www.americanbar.org/genpractice and
> looking on GP Solo's website for the application.
>
> Best,
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa
> Goraya
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:47 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo
> Young
> Lawyer Fellowship Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
>
> The link does  not seem to be working.
>
> Deepa
>
> On 4/24/13, Scott C. LaBarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com> wrote:
>> Fyi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Young Lawyers Committee
> [mailto:GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG]
>> On Behalf Of Rich Williamson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:31 AM
>> To: GP-YOUNGLAWYERS at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
>> Subject: Only One Week Left to Apply for the GPSolo Young Lawyer
> Fellowship
>> Program - DEADLINE 4/30/13
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Dear ABA GPSolo Young Lawyers Committee Members:
>>
>>
>>
>> The final countdown is here.  The deadline to apply for the 2013/2014
>> GPSolo Young Lawyers Fellows Program is only one week away. All
>> applications must be submitted by no later than Tuesday, April 30th.
>>
>>
>>
>> This great program provides opportunities for young lawyers to develop
>> their leadership skills, become active in GPSolo, and to be integrally
>> involved in the GPSolo's meetings and committees.
>>
>>
>>
>> As you'll see from the details on the website, all Fellows receive
>> funding to GPSolo's fall and spring meetings.  The 2013 Fall Meeting
>> will be in Lexington, Kentucky from October 3-5.  The 2014 Spring
>> Meeting will be in Las Vegas, Nevada in May 2014.
>>
>>
>>
>> For more information and the application, visit
>> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/gpsolo/initiatives/young_lawyers_fello
>> wship.html.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please feel free to forward this email to others that may be interested
>> in this opportunity.  If you have any questions, please contact the
>> GPSolo Division at 312-988-5659 or gpsolo at americanbar.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rich Williamson
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Richard D. Williamson, Esq.
>>
>> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson
>>
>> 50 West Liberty Street, Suite 600
>>
>> Reno, Nevada 89501
>>
>> Telephone:  (775) 329-5600
>>
>> Facsimile:  (775) 348-8300
>>
>> Email:  Rich at NVLawyers.com <mailto:Rich at NVLawyers.com>
>>
>> Please visit our Website at: www.nvlawyers.com
>> <http://www.nvlawyers.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> IMPORTANT NOTICE:
>>
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>> Robertson, Johnson, Miller & Williamson.  This message and any file(s)
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>> Any disclosure, distribution, copying, or use of this information by
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>> please advise the sender by immediate reply and completely delete the
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>> We advise you that any tax advice contained in this communication
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>> recommending to another person any tax-related matter addressed herein.
>> TRANSMISSION OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOT INTENDED TO CREATE, AND RECEIPT
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From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Wed Apr 24 19:32:07 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:32:07 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent: Seeking Volunteer Editors for J.
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F386C62@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:


Do please share the below information with your network and within your respective law schools or other graduate programs. The below stated may be a great opportunity to obtain experience this forthcoming summer. Our volunteers on the first issue worked hard but gained much. Our hope is to obtain externship credits for our volunteer students in the future. Although that day is not today. Law students, other graduate students for generalized editing work, and any of the aforesaid who are people with disabilities are encouraged to apply.  If you have questions, after reading the below, contact me.


LAW JOURNAL STAFF SOLICITATION


The Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law & Public Policy is actively seeking a limited number of Staff or Student Editors to participate in our second edition (Volume 2) to be published December, 2013 - January, 2014.  This is our typical schedule.  As with the first, the second edition will be predominantly based in the burgeoning field of Animal Law but may incorporate other Mid-Atlantic law and policy issues.  The only expertise necessary is a willingness to roll up your sleeves and dedicate your time to a worthwhile cause.

Serving as an editor is not without its advantages.  Students and young lawyers will be offered the opportunity to publish a Note or an article for our journal that will have Westlaw citations.  There are sundry awards for which students and young lawyers, who serve on the Journal, are eligible.  Do be sure you have no conflicts before contacting us.

Requirements and background on responsibilities: Journal members may not concurrently serve on any other journal or law review, but Journal staff will consider exceptions.  The work will primarily be performed electronically as we are an online journal with print copies made for our staff and writers.  The Journal is based on the model of say Politico that has a limited paper based issuance.  Initial time commitment is flexible but will be about ten hours max per week for the next few months with increased time commitments near the deadlines.  As needed or relevant, training will be provided.

Who may apply?  In addition to young lawyers, second or third year law students in the JD program or LLM students may apply.  Other graduate students are invited to apply.  However, such non-lawyer students will do generalized editing work and other duties as assigned, such as serving as a Business Editor.  Evening law students, who believe they meet this criteria, are encouraged to apply.

Management: Students are encouraged to participate on the Journal including in senior editor and management positions, and may continue to participate even after graduation.  If you have experience serving on a law journal and would like to serve on our Journal's senior staff, we have a variety of positions open (from Editor in Chief through Associate Editor).  Please do review the positions on our masthead -- http://www.midatlanticjournal.com/masthead.html -- and make this clear in your cover letter by using bold font.

People with disabilities are encouraged to participate in the Journal and in the general work of the Lyceum.  Indeed, the board is comprised of many persons with disabilities, including, but not limited to this author.

For further information, or to send in your application (resume attached and cover letter pasted into the email body please), please contact the Journal staff at MidAtlanticJournal at gmail.com<mailto:MidAtlanticJournal at gmail.com> with Gary C. Norman as a copy at GLNorman15 at hotmail.com<mailto:GLNorman15 at hotmail.com>. If you have questions, do not hesitate to telephone me at (410) 241-6745.

The Journal is a non-profit entity and there should be no conflicts with using your Westlaw/LexisNexis accounts for research.  The Journal is the benefactor of a grant by the Maryland Bar Foundation.  Please do discuss your password access with the law school if you have any questions about that.


I do apologize for the extensive length of this missive.  As you are able to read, this had much information to share.


Sincerely,
Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M.
Co-founder and President of the Lyceum; and Co-Editor-N-Chief




From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Thu Apr 25 12:12:48 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:12:48 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] May 2 Spring Dinner of ADR Section -- Come One, Come All
Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1F386E9A@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov>

Greetings:


This is to encourage your attendance at the capstone of each year of the ADR Section of the Md. State Bar Association, the spring dinner.
Annually, a prestigious award is bestowed by the Section, and this year it will be bestowed on the Executive Director of the Md. Conflict Resol. Office. The program (with seated dinner) will occur at 519 West Fayette Street, the beautiful old church where the likes of Poe is buried. Sponsorships are available.
Pilot and I do hope to greet you there. This year has a special importance with the retirement of the Chief Judge and his role in fostering ADR in the State. The Lyceum does congratulate him on his career. For more information, do consult the website of the bar association at www.msba.org<http://www.msba.org>.


Sincerely,
Gary

From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov  Fri Apr 26 14:11:17 2013
From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA))
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:11:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] National Parks Fundraiser Trip
 October 9-13 For NFB Travel & Tourism Division
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From: Nfbnet-members-list [mailto:nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:56 PM
To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] National Parks Fundraiser Trip October 9-13 For NFB Travel & Tourism Division


NFB Travel and Tourism Division 2013 1st Annual Fundraiser

National Parks Tour:

This is an all inclusive trip including tour guide.  Only exception is your expenses to and from Vegas October 9th through the 13th.  Would love to have you join us.  $721 double occupancy.  20% down.  Payment plan available.  Single and Triple Occupancy rates are available.

If you are totally blind and are worried about not enjoying the trip because it might be to visual for you we are working with Scenic Tours, Ron Helquist who is the owner of Scenic Tours will make it happen.  We want everyone to enjoy the trip using all of your senses.

Pricing includes: Tour bus, tour guide, hotels, all meals, entrance fees to the parks, taxes and fees, only thing not included are the tip to the tour guide upon the end of the trip and transportation to and from Las Vegas.

Payment structure: 20% of trip due at booking, full deposit due 8/1/2013, and final payment due 9/1/2013. But we are offering once 20% of trip has been paid, payment plans can be arranged.  Final day to book is July 15, 2013

For this trip to go we need 20 people, so far we have 14 and if we don't get 20 all money will be returned.

Single Occupancy - $860 p.p.   - $172 per person due at booking
Double Occupancy - $721 p.p.  - $145 per person due at booking
Triple Occupancy - $625 p.p.    - $120 per person due at booking

Itinerary:

Day 1: Las Vegas, NV - Fly into Las Vegas, NV. You will be met at the airport and shuttled to your hotel in downtown Las Vegas. You will have the evening to explore Las Vegas and catch some sleep before our big trip. Lodging at Bally?s Resort Dinner Included

Day 2: Day 2 Thursday

Grand Canyon National Park & Page, AZ - After an early breakfast, we will depart at 7am to the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park. We will cross over the new bridge in front of Hoover Dam, the largest dam in the United States. We will meet famous Route 66 in Kingman, AZ. After a short break, we will continue down Route 66 until Williams, AZ. From there we will enter into the National Park.


We will make 3 stops along the rim and view this natural wonder of the world. We will also enjoy lunch inside the park before we move on. After leaving the park we will enter the Navajo Indian Reservation. We will traverse the reservation to Page, AZ. We will lodge for the night in Page. Our lodging for the evening will be at Quality Inn, Page AZ.

Lodging at Quality Inn Breakfast & Dinner Included (snacks and water is supplied)

Day 3 Friday - Zion National Park & Bryce Canyon National Park.  Today we will depart Page for Zion National Park. Once we arrive at the park, we will enjoy lunch at the Zion Canyon Lodge. Once we are finished with lunch, we will enjoy seeing the not only Zion Canyon and the beautiful oasis within the canyon, but we will also see the east bench of Zion. It is a unique area that offers a different view of the sandstone cliffs that make up Zion National Park. Once we have enjoyed Zion National Park, we will depart the park and go to Bryce Canyon National Park. In Bryce Canyon, we will visit Fairyland,Sunset, and Bryce Points. Afterward we will check into our hotel at Ruby?s Inn for the evening. Lodging at Ruby?s Inn, UT Breakfast & Dinner Included.

Day 4 Saturday - After a delicious breakfast, we will depart Bryce Canyon and travel down one of the most beautiful highways in America, Highway 12. This road provides you with the beauties of the sandstone canyons and the wonders of 9,500 ft mountain vistas. We will then travel to Capital Reef National Park. In the park we will see some petroglyphs, the old school house, and the capitol dome. Once we have finished enjoying Capital Reef, and had a delicious boxed lunch, we will depart for our return journey to Las Vegas. We will travel through the beautiful Aquarius Plateau and then get back to the I-15 corridor. We will stop in St George, UT for a final dinner and a pleasant walk in town. After dinner, we will travel to Las Vegas, NV where we will spend the night. Lodging at Las Vegas, NV Breakfast & Dinner Included

Day 5 Sunday - Breakfast and returning to the airport

For more information and to book your trip, please contact Cheryl Echevarria, President of NFB Travel and Tourism Division and Owner of Echevarria Travel at 631-456-5394 or reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>, Vice President, Maurice Shackelford at 770-280-5029 or reservations at peachtreetravel.net<mailto:reservations at peachtreetravel.net>, or Treasurer Milton Taylor at milt2533 at gmail.com<mailto:milt2533 at gmail.com>.

We will accept check or money order, if you need to pay by credit card we will offer paypal.com



Cheryl Echevarria, President
NFB Travel & Tourism
cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
www.nfbtravel.org
<http://www.nfbtravel.org/>631-236-5138
Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.
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From fwlopez at comcast.net  Fri Apr 26 19:59:17 2013
From: fwlopez at comcast.net (Fred Wright Lopez)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:59:17 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] National Parks Fundraiser
	Trip October 9-13 For NFB Travel & Tourism Division
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Ali
Thanks, an evening out sound great.   We are pretty much open schedule wise for the next few weeks.  I would suggest that you and Beth figure a date and time that works best for you two working people and let us know.  A trip to San Francisco would be great particularly with the weather now being so nice.  A place on the waterfront or up to Columbus Circle.    Since Beth is in the City, perhaps she has a recommendation or two.  I'll also check around and see what I come up.

Take Care

Fred


On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) wrote:

> 
> 
> From: Nfbnet-members-list [mailto:nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:56 PM
> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] National Parks Fundraiser Trip October 9-13 For NFB Travel & Tourism Division
> 
> 
> NFB Travel and Tourism Division 2013 1st Annual Fundraiser
> 
> National Parks Tour:
> 
> This is an all inclusive trip including tour guide.  Only exception is your expenses to and from Vegas October 9th through the 13th.  Would love to have you join us.  $721 double occupancy.  20% down.  Payment plan available.  Single and Triple Occupancy rates are available.
> 
> If you are totally blind and are worried about not enjoying the trip because it might be to visual for you we are working with Scenic Tours, Ron Helquist who is the owner of Scenic Tours will make it happen.  We want everyone to enjoy the trip using all of your senses.
> 
> Pricing includes: Tour bus, tour guide, hotels, all meals, entrance fees to the parks, taxes and fees, only thing not included are the tip to the tour guide upon the end of the trip and transportation to and from Las Vegas.
> 
> Payment structure: 20% of trip due at booking, full deposit due 8/1/2013, and final payment due 9/1/2013. But we are offering once 20% of trip has been paid, payment plans can be arranged.  Final day to book is July 15, 2013
> 
> For this trip to go we need 20 people, so far we have 14 and if we don't get 20 all money will be returned.
> 
> Single Occupancy - $860 p.p.   - $172 per person due at booking
> Double Occupancy - $721 p.p.  - $145 per person due at booking
> Triple Occupancy - $625 p.p.    - $120 per person due at booking
> 
> Itinerary:
> 
> Day 1: Las Vegas, NV - Fly into Las Vegas, NV. You will be met at the airport and shuttled to your hotel in downtown Las Vegas. You will have the evening to explore Las Vegas and catch some sleep before our big trip. Lodging at Bally?s Resort Dinner Included
> 
> Day 2: Day 2 Thursday
> 
> Grand Canyon National Park & Page, AZ - After an early breakfast, we will depart at 7am to the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park. We will cross over the new bridge in front of Hoover Dam, the largest dam in the United States. We will meet famous Route 66 in Kingman, AZ. After a short break, we will continue down Route 66 until Williams, AZ. From there we will enter into the National Park.
> 
> 
> We will make 3 stops along the rim and view this natural wonder of the world. We will also enjoy lunch inside the park before we move on. After leaving the park we will enter the Navajo Indian Reservation. We will traverse the reservation to Page, AZ. We will lodge for the night in Page. Our lodging for the evening will be at Quality Inn, Page AZ.
> 
> Lodging at Quality Inn Breakfast & Dinner Included (snacks and water is supplied)
> 
> Day 3 Friday - Zion National Park & Bryce Canyon National Park.  Today we will depart Page for Zion National Park. Once we arrive at the park, we will enjoy lunch at the Zion Canyon Lodge. Once we are finished with lunch, we will enjoy seeing the not only Zion Canyon and the beautiful oasis within the canyon, but we will also see the east bench of Zion. It is a unique area that offers a different view of the sandstone cliffs that make up Zion National Park. Once we have enjoyed Zion National Park, we will depart the park and go to Bryce Canyon National Park. In Bryce Canyon, we will visit Fairyland,Sunset, and Bryce Points. Afterward we will check into our hotel at Ruby?s Inn for the evening. Lodging at Ruby?s Inn, UT Breakfast & Dinner Included.
> 
> Day 4 Saturday - After a delicious breakfast, we will depart Bryce Canyon and travel down one of the most beautiful highways in America, Highway 12. This road provides you with the beauties of the sandstone canyons and the wonders of 9,500 ft mountain vistas. We will then travel to Capital Reef National Park. In the park we will see some petroglyphs, the old school house, and the capitol dome. Once we have finished enjoying Capital Reef, and had a delicious boxed lunch, we will depart for our return journey to Las Vegas. We will travel through the beautiful Aquarius Plateau and then get back to the I-15 corridor. We will stop in St George, UT for a final dinner and a pleasant walk in town. After dinner, we will travel to Las Vegas, NV where we will spend the night. Lodging at Las Vegas, NV Breakfast & Dinner Included
> 
> Day 5 Sunday - Breakfast and returning to the airport
> 
> For more information and to book your trip, please contact Cheryl Echevarria, President of NFB Travel and Tourism Division and Owner of Echevarria Travel at 631-456-5394 or reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>, Vice President, Maurice Shackelford at 770-280-5029 or reservations at peachtreetravel.net<mailto:reservations at peachtreetravel.net>, or Treasurer Milton Taylor at milt2533 at gmail.com<mailto:milt2533 at gmail.com>.
> 
> We will accept check or money order, if you need to pay by credit card we will offer paypal.com
> 
> 
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria, President
> NFB Travel & Tourism
> cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> www.nfbtravel.org
> <http://www.nfbtravel.org/>631-236-5138
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From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Mon Apr 29 19:35:20 2013
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:35:20 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Can Anyone Provide Modern Legal Ethics by
	Charles W Woolfram?
Message-ID: <CAGZitzLOw5oom2GoaepLgAox=17EWnkuJzpZy12NmWR7sj0aNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

I really need to access a copy of this book? It's an older text and it
isn't available as an ebook. If anyone has scanned this book or parts
of it and would be willing to let me have these scanned parts, I'd
very much appreciate it.

Kind regards

Ger


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Apr 29 21:27:20 2013
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:27:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] AOC Employment Opportunity - Guardian Grievance
	Investigator
In-Reply-To: <7196d85239ed4c6b82f71e6634375290@BY2PR03MB009.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <2A1B28C5CC983C4F8253CF1FA1218532174ADAC1F9@EXCHMAIL1.courts.wa.gov>
	<2A1B28C5CC983C4F8253CF1FA121853217508F5617@EXCHMAIL1.courts.wa.gov>
	<2A1B28C5CC983C4F8253CF1FA121853217545ED848@EXCHMAIL1.courts.wa.gov>
	<2A1B28C5CC983C4F8253CF1FA121853217545ED97B@EXCHMAIL1.courts.wa.gov>
	<7196d85239ed4c6b82f71e6634375290@BY2PR03MB009.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7EDA5B957DBF3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>


From: Munro, Erica [mailto:Erica.Munro at courts.wa.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:10 PM
To: 'president at abaw.org'; 'cardozo at jewishinseattle.org'; 'filipinolawyers at gmail.com'; 'asachs at wrenngroup.com'; 'dko at kellerrohrback.com'; 'DavisJK at LanePowell.com'; 'nicole at gaineslawoffice.com'; 'info at melegal.org'; 'rblack at susmangodfrey.com'; 'milliek at nwjustice.org'; 'dclarks at co.pierce.wa.us'; 'slavicbar at gmail.com'; 'KMDas at perkinscoie.com'; 'DINHS at FOSTER.COM'; Stuart Pixley (LCA); 'alison.bettles at nordstrom.com'
Subject: AOC Employment Opportunity - Guardian Grievance Investigator

Greetings!
The Administrative Office of the Courts has another exciting employment opportunity. We are looking to fill two Guardian Grievance Investigator positions; one of which is temporary and expected to last 12 months. For more information about this opportunity, you can view the announcement here: http://www.courts.wa.gov/employ/?fa=employ.detail&employmentid=1730.

Please share this announcement with anyone who may be interested, including your minority bar association members.

Thank you,

Erica Munro
Human Resource Specialist
Administrative Office of the Courts
360-705-5286

From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Apr 30 15:38:06 2013
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:38:06 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Disability Employment Initiative Coordinator Olympia
	Washington
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7EDA5B957DCEC@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>


From: Olson, Toby (ESD) [mailto:TOlson2 at ESD.WA.GOV]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:59 AM
To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
Subject: Disability Employment Initiative Coordinator (ESPC3 AND01) Olympia

From: Johnson, Melinda S. (ESD)
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:48 AM
To: Olson, Toby (ESD); Himes, Debbie (ESD); Collins, Amanda (ESD)
Subject: FW: HRSD ESPC3 - AND01 - Olympia



From: ESD Job Announcements [mailto:JOBS at LISTSERV.ESD.WA.GOV] On Behalf Of Wineinger, Rita (ESD)
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:51 AM
To: JOBS at LISTSERV.ESD.WA.GOV<mailto:JOBS at LISTSERV.ESD.WA.GOV>
Subject: [ESD-Jobs] HRSD ESPC3 - AND01 - Olympia

State of Washington
Employment Security Department
invites applications for the position of:
Disability Employment Initiative Coordinator (ESPC3 AND01) Olympia

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CE432C.8A7098A0]


SALARY:

$3,614.00 - $4,741.00 Monthly
$43,368.00 - $56,892.00 Annually


OPENING DATE: 04/27/13



CLOSING DATE: 05/06/13 05:00 PM



DESCRIPTION:

Note:  This is a full-time project position with an estimated end date of September 30, 2014.

The Human Resource Division is seeking an Employment Security Program Coordinator 3.  This position supports the Department's strategic goal to contribute to an effective workforce system by strengthening state and community partnerships and delivering a prepared and stable work force.  With oversight from the Executive Secretary of the Governor's Committee on Disability Issues and Employment, this position directs the Disability Employment Initiative, a three-year project, funded by a grant from the Department of Labor.  The purpose of the initiative is to improve access, services and outcomes for job seekers with disabilities served by WorkSource. This position supports, directs, monitors evaluates and reports on the work of contractors and subcontractors. This position serves as the liaison between ESD and the US Department of Labor for this grant.







Go directly to the Employment Security Program Coordinator 3<http://agency.governmentjobs.com/washington/default.cfm?action=viewJob&jobID=641927&hit_count=yes&headerFooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3Eand01%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E> announcement to see the full job posting and apply online.

Or go to the Employment Security Department's jobs Web page<http://www.esd.wa.gov/newsandinformation/aboutesd/esdjobs/index.php>.

 *   Click on Apply Search towards the bottom of this page.
 *   Click on the job posting title (shown in alphabetical order).
 *   Click the green Apply button and the online program will walk you through the application process.

For technical assistance, go to Careers.wa.gov Help<http://careers.wa.gov/help.html> or call 1-877-204-4442.  To talk to a recruiter about this job, call 360-725-9400.
To unsubscribe to the Employment Security Department's jobs e-mail distribution list click here<https://fortress.wa.gov/esd/webform/contactus/?subject=11&list=jobs&list=jobs>.


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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Apr 30 15:39:47 2013
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:39:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Guardian grievance investigator positions Washington
	state courts
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7EDA5B957DCEF@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>


From: Olson, Toby (ESD) [mailto:TOlson2 at ESD.WA.GOV]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:11 PM
To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
Subject: FW: Position Announcement

From: Bondon, Shirley [mailto:Shirley.Bondon at courts.wa.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:40 PM
To
Subject: Position Announcement

The Washington State Administrative Office of the Courts is hiring two individuals to investigate the conduct of certified professional guardians. Please click on the link below to view the announcement. Please share with others.


Guardian Grievance Investigator (Senior Court Program Analyst)<http://www.courts.wa.gov/employ/?fa=employ.detail&employmentid=1730> - in the Judicial Services Division



Shirley Bondon, Manager
(Voice) 360.705.5302 | (Fax) 360.956.5700 | (E-mail) shirley.bondon at courts.wa.gov<mailto:shirley.bondon at courts.wa.gov>

To learn more about the professional guardian program and public guardianship services, please visit http://www.courts.wa.gov/cpg and http://www.courts.wa.gov/opg
Confidentiality Notice
This email transmission is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. Please do not forward to anyone without the sender's permission.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, or dissemination of this transmission or the taking of any action in reliance on its contents or other use is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this transmission in error, please destroy the original and notify us by telephone immediately.  Thank you for your cooperation.
P Think Green! Please do not print this e-mail unless it is necessary.





From dravant at ameritech.net  Tue Apr 30 16:14:24 2013
From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:14:24 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: DRBA Virtual Brown Bag Friday May 3 noon pst,
	3pm est
References: <754CD11606D64746A911DFADB3D18CD53E5431@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org>
Message-ID: <0C5B016B-DA94-4622-98DB-8C23C8F69EAB@ameritech.net>



Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Rita, Sherri" <Sherri.Rita at AMERICANBAR.ORG>
> Date: April 30, 2013, 10:47:22 AM CDT
> To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
> Subject: DRBA Virtual Brown Bag Friday May 3 noon pst, 3pm est
> Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of              the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Rita, Sherri" <Sherri.Rita at AMERICANBAR.ORG>
> 
> DRBA Virtual Brown Bag Registration
> 
> The Disability Rights Bar Association (DRBA) is pleased to announce and welcome law students to attend the DRBA’s ‘Virtual Brown Bag’ discussion with DRBA member attorneys. These are on-going monthly events at the same time every month to introduce law students who are interested in disability rights to DRBA attorneys who are the leaders in this practice area. 
> 
> DRBA’s Virtual Brown Bag will provide law students the opportunity to learn about disability civil rights legal practice during a one hour, virtual question and answer discussion.
> 
> The next DRBA Virtual Brown Bag will be held on Friday, May 3, 2013 with guest speaker Mary Vargas, Partner, Stein & Vargas LLP.  Ms. Vargas is committed to ensuring full and equal access for all individuals. She has litigated cases pursuant to the Americans with Disabilities Act and the Rehabilitation Act throughout the United States in federal and state courts. http://www.steinvargas.com/
> 
> To attend the session, please send an email to dnguye02 at law.syr.edu indicating in the subject line “DRBA Virtual Brown Bag” and include your name, year in law school, and law school being attended by May 2. If eligible, you will receive an email confirmation with instructions to join the session prior to the event.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Paula Pearlman
> Executive Director, Disability Rights Legal Center
> Visiting Associate Professor of Law,  Loyola Law School Los Angeles
> Loyola Public Interest Law Center
> 800 S. Figueroa St., Suite 1120
> Los Angeles, CA  90017
> 213 736-8362  direct
> 213 736-1031  main number
> 213 736-8310  TDD
> 866 912-8193  video phone
> 213 736-1428  fax
> paula.pearlman at lls.edu
> www.disabilityrightslegalcenter.org
>  
> This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is or may be legally privileged, confidential, proprietary in nature, or otherwise protected by law from disclosure, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system.
> Thank you.
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Apr 30 20:02:36 2013
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:02:36 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] {Spam?} MR. ALCIDONIS
References: <7EE9188FB235496DBA03A1E3EFF950BE@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <44FB4F2B92134AD4978458AC81E78DF4@victory2>

This note is for Mr. Alcidonis.  Please contact me via Email at:

ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com

when you have a brief moment.  Much thanks and all the best.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


From hkrasna at aclu.org  Tue Apr 30 21:32:45 2013
From: hkrasna at aclu.org (Heather Krasna)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:32:45 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] American Civil Liberties Union Career Expo for
	Professionals with Disabilities, deadline 5/10
Message-ID: <A673171E4AEB5C44A7D4637CCF85A985023E24F5@NYEXVS01.aclu.org>

For more than 92 years, the American Civil Liberties Union has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. 
On behalf of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), we are pleased to announce the ACLU's Career Expo for Professionals with Disabilities in New York City.
We are seeking qualified applicants with disabilities who are interested in working for the ACLU.   We would greatly appreciate your forwarding the attached flyer and invitation text to interested job seekers for the following positions: 
*	Staff Attorney
*	Communications Professionals
*	Development/Fundraising
*	Nonprofit Management /Operations
*	Legal Support positions
*	Legal interns
*	Undergraduate interns

Please note, the application deadline is Friday, May 10. Thank you for your help in promoting this event!

Invite text:
The ACLU will be hosting a Career Expo for Professionals with Disabilities. 

Interested applicants are encouraged to apply for the following positions:	
Staff Attorney     
Legal and Undergraduate Interns  
Legal Support
Fundraising/Development        
Communications     
Non-profit Management

Please visit http://www.aclu.org/careers for a current list of openings and their requirements.  

To apply for a position, please submit a resume,  cover letter; and include a writing sample if required in the job announcement. In your cover letter, please indicate the position(s) to which you are applying. Also please include
any request(s) for accommodation. 

Important: Please send your application materials to hrjobsINCL at aclu.org and reference "Career  Expo" in the subject line.
	
Please apply by May 10, 2013. 

Applicants selected for interviews will be notified by May 22nd and will be provided with the date and time to attend the career expo. 

Thank you.



Heather Krasna
Talent Acquisition Specialist
American Civil Liberties Union
125 Broad St., New York, NY 10004
■ 212.519.7838 ■ hkrasna at aclu.org 
www.aclu.org/careers         
www.linkedin.com/company/aclu 



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The ACLU will be hosting a Career Expo for Professionals with Disabilities. 

Interested applicants are encouraged to apply for the following positions:	
Staff Attorney     
Legal and Undergraduate Interns  
Legal Support
Fundraising/Development        
Communications     
Non-profit Management

Please visit http://www.aclu.org/careers for a current list of openings and their requirements.  

To apply for a position, please submit a resume,  cover letter; and include a writing sample if required in the job announcement. In your cover letter, please indicate the position(s) to which you are applying. Also please include
any request(s) for accommodation. 

Important: Please send your application materials to hrjobsINCL at aclu.org and reference ⌠Career  Expo■ in the subject line.
	
Please apply by May 10, 2013. 

Applicants selected for interviews will be notified by May 22nd and will be provided with the date and time to attend the career expo. 

Thank you.