[blindlaw] A different view of Driverless cars

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

are you sure of that? maybe with good income of a lawyer but how could 
you/the average person afford it?
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A different view of Driverless cars


> Hi All,
>
> I've not been following this thread that closely, but I'm curious of
> the progress of the Blind Driver program.  I am curious to wonder if
> the car created for the blind will ever reach the streets?  Can it
> recognize street lights/stop signs?  I know if possible I sure would
> use one if it ever came on the market.  Thanks so much
>
> Justin
>
> On 8/23/13, Bill Reif <billreif at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> Hello Dan,
>>
>> I know liability will remain with the vehicle manufacturer, just as is
>> the case now where defects in conventional vehicles are alleged to have
>> contributed to accidents, and didn't intend to assert otherwise. So long
>> as whoever is in the front seat of an autonomous vehicle has some power
>> to intervene, lawyers will allege that their failure to do so creates
>> liability with the operator as well unless that person had no power to
>> influence the car. In the case of the blind, it will be argued that the
>> person should never have put him/herself in that situation. That might
>> be a valid argument if the vehicle includes no technology that would
>> have provided situational awareness information.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Bill
>>
>> On 8/23/2013 11:47 AM, Daniel McBride wrote:
>>> Bill:
>>>
>>> Unless specific legislation was passed to exempt manufacturers of a
>>> driverless vehicle from liability in personal injury/wrongful death
>>> cases,
>>> products liability issues are going to be a concern of the potential
>>> manufacturers.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill
>>> Reif
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:54 AM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A different view of Driverless cars
>>>
>>> This debate validates the time and money the NFB has put into the
>>> blind-drivable vehicle. Even if that vehicle is displaced by the
>>> driverless
>>> car and never gains significant distribution, its successful operation
>>> demonstrates that we can monitor and, if necessary, intervene in its
>>> operation. Without that demonstration, we would find it harder to
>>> challenge
>>> the belief that we are as powerless as inanimate cargo. As driverless
>>> cars
>>> continue to evolve, we should work with developers to interface some of
>>> the
>>> blind-drivable technology in those a blind person may operate. Until 
>>> that
>>> happens or until the driverless car is perfected, I would no more want 
>>> to
>>> ride in one than a sighted person would sit in a car with no controls.
>>>
>>> In terms of legal issues: I can't imagine that a car's being 
>>> "driverless"
>>> shifts liability away from whoever's behind the wheel.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On 8/19/2013 6:29 PM, Ross Doerr wrote:
>>>> About two weeks ago on this list I posted some material about Google's
>>>> driverless car along with some legal and ethical questions that go
>>>> "along for the ride" as it were.
>>>> Lest  we think that Google is the sole company putting a car like this
>>>> out there in testing, read the following article about its competition
>>>> at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wbur.org/npr/212683617/hitting-the-road-without-a-driver?ft
>>>> =3&f=2
>>>> 12683617
>>>> Note two things in this article that I, as well as many others on the
>>>> list have verbalized.
>>>> The manufacturers of this car are also concerned about the car and its
>>>> automation being accepted by the general public as well as them
>>>> waiting for the legal profession and insurance industry to catch up 
>>>> with
>>> them.
>>>> This car has a "big red button"  in the middle of the dashboard which,
>>>> when activated, disconnects the automatics operating the car. This is
>>>> not surprising.
>>>>    My point is that the legal and insurance issues for driverless cars
>>>> are now being outlined and debated, and we are not a part of this
>>>> debate. Debating those issues on this list is one thing, but we are not
>>> the decision makers.
>>>> We need to be a part of the debate at the discussion level so that
>>>> policy can be shaped in such a way that we are not excluded at the
>>>> outset.
>>>> That is a statement that is very easily said, and not so easily done.
>>>> Ross A. Doerr, Attorney at law
>>>> Augusta, Maine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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