[blindlaw] Questions about universities in the US

Paul Wick wickps at gmail.com
Sun Jan 13 00:34:11 UTC 2013


Adam,

I'm a 2010 grad of a fourth-tier (Golden Gate University School of Law
in San Francisco) and I had a similar excellent experience with
accommodations in law school versus undergrad. I'm very fortunate to
be working part-time doing Social Security Disability appeals, but I
am (with the encouragement of my boss) looking for other options. It
has also been my experience that there just aren't any jobs out there,
and those that exist require experience I don't have.

Marcos,

My law school (of which I'm very proud) has several LLM programs, but
the only ones that might be worth your time or money are the LLM in
Taxation (which is more well-regarded than our JD) and our U.S. Legal
Studies LLM, which is primarily for those from civil law countries who
want to sit the California Bar (also New York.) I had a few of these
students in my classes, and they were really interesting people.

As for funding, I'm not sure but I would doubt there is any. An LLM
costs about $36,000 as I recall. A professor of mine suggested I do
their LLM and I said to him that thanks to the federal government and
scholarships, I had borrowed less than the LLM tuition over the 3
years of law school which I think is about the proper cost of a legal
education. I said that I just didn't think the cost-benefit analysis
made it worth pursuing. This was followed by total silence on my
professors’ part.

Just my thoughts.

Best,
Paul S. Wick, Esq.


On 1/12/13, Marcos Rodrigues <mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I want to take a general LLM focused on the American Law.
>
> I do not plan to teach in the near future but want to take the New York Bar
> Examination after the LLM if everything work out the way I am planning.
>
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> Em 12/01/2013, às 18:23, Fred Wright Lopez escreveu:
>
>> There are many LLM programs of study, but the starting question is what do
>> you envision doing with a LLM degree?   Are you interested in an academic
>> / teaching career?  If so, in the United States or elsewhere?   If so,
>> than I would argue that the reputation of the school and it's LLM program
>> will most assuredly factor into the hiring process.   If you want an LLM
>> in tax law than it may not count as much but would still factor in to
>> hiring and promotional opportunities.
>>
>> By way of background, I attended UCLA and UC Berkeley as an undergraduate
>> and UC Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) for my JD degree.  Although I graduated
>> many years ago did not purse an LLM I am familiar with the LLM program at
>> Berkeley Law School.  The LLM program at Berkeley is world renown and
>> highly competitive.   Many of the LLM students who come to Berkley are
>> interested in teaching, technology / business or judicial administration
>> careers.   Several LLM students are on foregin government or US State
>> Department sponsored programs.
>>
>> Although lost my vision several years after graduating from Boalt Hall I
>> remain in close contact with the University on issues of disability and
>> access for students.   The law school has had previous JD students who are
>> blind and visually impaired.   There are great support systems for
>> students on campus and in the community at large.
>>
>> An additional aspect of any LLM program is not just course offerings, but
>> access to professors and the make up of the LLM class.  Basically, will
>> you make the kind of  contacts in an LLM program that will benefit you
>> throughout your legal career.
>>
>> I hope these commens of of some assistance.
>>
>> Federico (Fred) Wright Lopez
>> Boalt Hall "79
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Marcos Rodrigues wrote:
>>
>>> thanks Adam, I will search tis school.
>>>
>>> Enviado via iPhone
>>>
>>> Em 12/01/2013, às 17:06, Adam Zimmerman <adam.zimmerman719 at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Marco,
>>>>
>>>> Certainly a good question. With an LLM the rank of the law school
>>>> matters far less than it does for a JD. I base that statement on my
>>>> background as a legal recruiter working externally with large firms
>>>> prior to law school. I attended Suffolk University Law School in
>>>> downtown Boston which has a highly regarded international LLM program
>>>> though the law school is ranked in the third tier by US News. I had a
>>>> lousy undergrad experience with respect to accommodations for students
>>>> with visual disabilities at a prestigious liberal arts school that does
>>>> not have a law school and I was thoroughly amazed at the quality and
>>>> attentiveness of the Office of Disability Services at Suffolk Law
>>>> provided. I could not have asked for better partners in my legal
>>>> education. They went above and beyond on a regular basis to ensure I had
>>>> all my books in digital format and worked with me to deal with any
>>>> concerns professors might have had. As a result of Suffolk Law's
>>>> experiences with me as a law student I am proud to say they have had at
>>>> least one blind or visually impaired student matriculated in every
>>>> graduating class from 2010 to the present 1L class of 2015.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that's helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Adam B. Zimmerman, Esq.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Marcos Rodrigues <mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi listers:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking about taking a LLM in the US next year and would like to
>>>>> know about good law schools in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also would like to know (if you do not mind answering) in what law
>>>>> school did you take your law course degree and post graduation degree
>>>>> or LLM?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>> Marcos Rodrigues
>>>>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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