From mildredrivera at yahoo.com Mon Jul 1 01:35:10 2013 From: mildredrivera at yahoo.com (Millie Rivera-Rau) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Annual Meeting of NABL, Agenda Pasted and Attached In-Reply-To: <005901ce7535$fc602940$f5207bc0$@labarrelaw.com> References: <005901ce7535$fc602940$f5207bc0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: <1372642510.86271.YahooMailNeo@web122201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Looks like a great agenda! Sorry I will be missing it this year. Have an AWESOME day !!! :), Millie ________________________________ From: Scott C. LaBarre To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Annual Meeting of NABL, Agenda Pasted and Attached AGENDA NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS 2013 ANNUAL MEETING ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Wednesday, July 3, 2013 Salon 19, Level 2  Rosen Centre Hotel Orlando, Florida 1:00 p.m.  WELCOME AND MEETING LOGISTICS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS Scott LaBarre, Esq., President, NABL, Denver, Colorado 1:05 p.m.  THE HATHITRUST CASE:  ADVANCING THE RIGHT TO READ Daniel F. Goldstein, Esq., Partner, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy, Baltimore, Maryland; Mehgan Sidhu, Esq., General Counsel, NFB, Baltimore, Maryland 2:00 p.m.  TIPS AND TRICKS FOR BLIND LAWYERS: A Panel Discussion Ronza Othman, Esq., Moderator, First Vice President, NABL, Baltimore, Maryland PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR BLIND LAWYERS AND READING FLUENTLY ALOUD USING AN AUDIBLE TELEPROMPTER - AN ALTERNATIVE, ALTERNATIVE TECHNIQUE Bruce Gardner, Esq., Senior Counsel, Pinnacle West Capital Corporation, Phoenix, Arizona USING SPECIALIZED SOFTWARE WITH ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY TO BE MORE EFFICIENT Timothy R. Elder, Esq., Principal, TRE Legal, Baltimore, Maryland USING I-DEVICES WITH VOICE OVER TO CONDUCT LEGAL RESEARCH Patti Chang, Esq., Senior Legal Counsel, City of Chicago Law Department, Chicago, Illinois USING BOOKSHARE TO CONDUCT LEGAL RESEARCH Anne Naftel, Bookshare Collection Development Associate, Benetech, Palo Alto, California 3:00 p.m.  BREAK 3:15 p.m.  FINAL VICTORY OVER THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BAR EXAMINERS: Hearing from the Plaintiffs Dee Jones, Esq., President, NFB, of Vermont, Middlesex, Vermont; Timothy Elder, Esq., Second Vice President, NABL, Baltimore, Maryland 4:00 p.m.  THE MARRAKESH TREATY TO FACILITATE ACCESS TO PUBLISHED WORKS FOR PERSONS WHO ARE BLIND, VISUALLY IMPAIRED, OR OTHERWISE PRINT DISABLED Dr. Fredric K. Schroeder, First Vice President, World Blind Union and Delegate to the World Intellectual Property Organization, First Vice President, NFB, Vienna, Virginia; Scott C. LaBarre, Esq., Legal Counsel, NFB and NFB Delegate to the World Intellectual Property Organization, Denver, Colorado 4:45 p.m.  NABL BUSINESS MEETING: ELECTIONS AND DISCUSSION OF FUTURE PROGRAMS 5:00 p.m.  ADJOURN 5:00 to 6:30 p.m.  ANNUAL NABL RECEPTION (ticketed event) Join us for cocktails and hors d'oeuvres as we celebrate the progress of our organization.  Network and meet your fellow blind attorneys and legal professionals. Salons 1 and 2, level 2. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mildredrivera%40yahoo.com From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 12:59:03 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] making a case against netflix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51D17D17.70706@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm actually writing to you because I'm trying to gather accessibility documentation for Netflix because we’re going to make an accessibility case in court, involving all platforms of accessibility and the lack of it on their website and their services as well. If you could email me and CC the email bhachey at verizon.net about any accessibility problem you’re having with Netflix that would be realty appreciated. Perhaps we can finally start making some good changes in the area of Netflix. Thank you. /*See below for resume, writing links, social media links, and other writing archives */ *Click here to view my resume* * * *Click here to see my writing archive * *Click here to view my website/ / * */ /* */writer for Chicago Theater Beat/ * *Tel: 850 764 2161 * Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube WordPress My latest comedy review: Josh Blue: Putting the Cerebral in Cerebral Palsy My latest Audio Description review: Audio Description review: How Long Will I Cry? (play) WordPress My latest post in my blog:Blind Journalist Robert Kingett in disability anthology. Read more | My blog Share on Facebook  Share on Twitter Get this email app! Designed with WiseStamp - Get yours From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Jul 2 14:15:45 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:15:45 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] NFB Colorado Amazing Vacation Travel Raffle Message-ID: <015401ce772e$a4ec17a0$eec446e0$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings: As I write this, we are about four and a half monhs away from the Annual Banquet of the NFB of Colorado being held at the 59th Annual State Convention. There, we will draw the name of one lucky winner of our 2013 Vacation Raffle. What will this lucky person win? He/she will win a $3500.00 gift certificate to a local travel agency to be used however the winner chooses, whether for a European vacation, cruise, or some other kind of vacation. The certificate can be used multiple times and not spent all on one vacation. Who is eligible to win? Well, pretty much anyone, anywhere. The winner does not need to be present to win which means we can sell these raffle tickets to anyone, anywhere. How can someone get tickets? Tickets can be purchased from any of our members who have them in hand. Our members will be around the convention to sell you tickets. Additionlly, if you come to the PAC table, we can even run your credit card. Additionally, tickets can be purchased through our website, www.nfbco.org , by clicking the "vacation raffle" link on our home page. Tickets can be purchased immediately by using a credit card and the receipt will be mailed to the purchaser. Additionally, a person can fill out the form available online and send in a check. The receipts will then be mailed upon receipt of the check. How much are tickets? A single ticket is $10.00 and $20.00 gets three tickets. A person can certainly buy more than $10 and $20 worth of tickets. How will the proceeds of the raffle be used? Money from the raffle will support our NFB Colorado Scholarship Program and our BELL Camps. Each year we give five scholarships to deserving blind and low vision post secondary students to help attend college or university. Our BELL Camps, Braille Enrichment Through Learning and Literacy, puts literacy into the hands of blind children living in Colorado each summer through intense Braille lessons and other independent skills structured through a two week, academic camp. Do you have any questions about this raffle or the National Federation of the Blind of Colorado? Please feel free to contact me at slabarre at labarrelaw.com or 303 504-5979. You may also visit our website at www.nfbco.org . Thanks for supporting NFB Colorado! Scott C. LaBarre, President National Federation of the Blind of Colorado From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Tue Jul 2 16:43:24 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:43:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi All: Where do these three colleges rank in the scheme of things? 1. University of Denver Sturm College of Law 2. University of Colorado, Boulder School of Law 3. Indiana University Bloomington Maurer School of Law Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Tue Jul 2 17:04:59 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:04:59 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters In-Reply-To: References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000701ce7746$48f19110$dad4b330$@com> I haven't checked lately; the last time I did, about a year ago, Colorado was top-tier -- top 30. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters Hi All: Where do these three colleges rank in the scheme of things? 1. University of Denver Sturm College of Law 2. University of Colorado, Boulder School of Law 3. Indiana University Bloomington Maurer School of Law Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From amarjain at amarjain.com Tue Jul 2 17:06:35 2013 From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:36:35 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] DeltaView and Uberal Law Practice Management accessibility with screen readers? Message-ID: <010e01ce7746$857d23b0$90776b10$@amarjain.com> Hi List Members, I am unable to use Uberal's Law Firm Office Practice Management software, and DeltaView, with Jaws 14 latest built. Has anyone used the same? For DeltaView, please visit: www.workshare.com/products For Uberal Law Firm Office Practice Management, please visit: www.uberall.in/law.html I will be greatful if someone can assist me on this. Regards, Amar Jain. Associate, Trilegal. From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 2 19:14:08 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:14:08 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters In-Reply-To: References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> #30 Indiana Bloomington #48 Denver #75 Colorado The list is below. 1. Harvard Law School 2. University of Michigan Law School 3. Yale Law School 4. University of Chicago, The Law School 5. University of California - Berkeley 6. Stanford Law School 7. Columbia University School of Law 8. Duke University School of Law 9. University of Pennsylvania Law School 10. Cornell Law School 11. New York University School of Law 12. University of Texas School of Law 13. University of California - Los Angeles 14. Northwestern University School of Law 15. University of Virginia School of Law 16. Vanderbilt University Law School 17. Georgetown University Law Center 18. Notre Dame Law School 19. University of Minnesota Law School 20. University of California, Hastings College of Law 21. University of Iowa College of Law 22. University of Wisconsin Law School 23. Boston University School of Law 24. Fordham University School of Law 25. University of North Carolina School of Law 26. University of Washington School of Law 27. University of Southern California Law School 28. University of California - Davis 29. Tulane University School of Law 30. Indiana University School of Law-Bloomington 31. University of Utah College of Law 32. George Washington University Law School 33. Ohio State University College of Law 34. University of the Pacific (McGeorge) 35. Southern Methodist University School of Law 36. Albany Law School, Union University 37. Loyola Law School 38. University of Illinois College of Law 39. State University of New York at Buffalo 40. Marquette University Law School 41. Washington University School of Law 42. Boston College Law School 43. Hofstra University School of Law 44. Emory University School of Law 45. Catholic University of American School of Law 46. Temple University, Beasley School of Law 47. University of Georgia School of Law 48. University of Denver College of Law 49. University of Houston Law Center 50. American University, Washington College of Law 51. Chicago-Kent College of Law, ITT 52. Syracuse University College of Law 53. University of San Diego School of Law 54. University of San Francisco School of Law 55. University of Missouri-Columbia 56. University of Florida, Levin College of Law 57. University of Maryland School of Law 58. Yeshiva University, Cardozo School of Law 59. University of Pittsburgh School of Law 60. Case Western Reserve University Law School 61. Rutgers State University-Newark (NJ) 62. Santa Clara University School of Law 63. University of Kansas School of Law 64. Villanova University School of Law 65. Rutgers State University-Camden (NJ) 66. Pepperdine University School of Law 67. University of Oregon School of Law 68. Wayne State University Law School 69. Saint Louis University School of Law 70. St. John's University School of Law 71. Brigham Young University, Clark Law School 72. Brooklyn Law School (NY) 73. Willamette University College of Law 74. Valparaiso University School of Law 75. University of Colorado School of Law 76. Loyola University Chicago School of Law 77. Gonzaga University School of Law 78. Southwestern University School of Law 79. University of Detroit Mercy School of Law 80. College of William and Mary, (Marshall-Wythe) 81. Seton Hall University School of Law 82. Golden Gate University School of Law 83. Florida State University College of Law 84. University of Oklahoma Law Center 85. DePaul University College of Law 86. Louisiana State University Law Center 87. University of Connecticut School of Law 88. University of Missouri-Kansas City 89. New York Law School 90. University of Miami School of Law 91. Drake University Law School 92. University of Arizona, Rogers College of Law 93. Duquesne University School of Law 94. Baylor University School of Law 95. Arizona State University College of Law 96. University of Louisville, Brandeis School of Law 97. University of Cincinnati College of Law 98. Pennsylvania State University (Dickinson) 99. University of Kentucky College of Law 100. University of Mississippi School of Law 101. University of Alabama School of Law 102. University of Nebraska College of Law 103. Michigan State University-Detroit College of Law 104. University of Tulsa College of Law 105. Washburn University School of Law 106. West Virginia University College of Law 107. Texas Tech University School of Law 108. Lewis and Clark Northwestern School of Law 109. Southern Illinois University School of Law 110. Indiana University School of Law, Indianapolis 111. Wake Forest University School of Law 112. Suffolk University Law School 113. Northeastern University School of Law 114. Creighton University School of Law 115. John Marshall Law School 116. New England School of Law 117. California Western School of Law 118. University of Tennessee College of Law 119. Mercer University Law School 120. Washington and Lee University School of Law 121. University of South Carolina School of Law 122. William Mitchell College of Law 123. Thomas M. Cooley Law School 124. University of Akron, McDowell Law Center 125. University of Puget Sound 126. Howard University 127. University of Arkansas, Fayetteville (Leflar) 128. University of New Mexico School of Law 129. University of Montana School of Law 130. Cleveland State University (Marshall) 131. Capital University Law School 132. Hamline University School of Law 133. George Mason University School of Law 134. University of Idaho College of Law 135. Samford University (Cumberland) 136. Oklahoma City University School of Law 137. Western New England College School of Law 138. Ohio Northern University, Pettit College of Law 139. University of Hawaii, Richardson School of Law 140. Widener University School of Law 141. University of Richmond School of Law 142. University of Memphis (Humphreys) 143. University of Dayton School of Law 144. Franklin Pierce Law Center 145. University of Wyoming 146. University of Baltimore School of Law 147. Stetson University College of Law 148. Nova University 149. University of Maine School of Law 150. Whittier Law School 151. St. Mary's University 152. Vermont Law School 153. Loyola University New Orleans School of Law 154. University of Toledo College of Law 155. University of South Dakota School of Law 156. University of Arkansas, Little Rock (Bowen) 157. Northern Illinois University College of Law 158. Pace University School of Law 159. University of North Dakota School of Law 160. Texas Southern University (Thurgood Marshall) 161. University of Puerto Rico 162. South Texas College of Law 163. Northern Kentucky University (Chase) 164. Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico 165. North Carolina Central University 166. Campbell University 167. Inter American University of Puerto Rico 168. Mississippi College School of Law 169. Touro College (Fuchsberg) 170. Georgia State University College of Law 171. CUNY Queens College 172. Southern University 173. District of Columbia -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters Hi All: Where do these three colleges rank in the scheme of things? 1. University of Denver Sturm College of Law 2. University of Colorado, Boulder School of Law 3. Indiana University Bloomington Maurer School of Law Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Jul 2 19:18:06 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:18:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters In-Reply-To: <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253C9956@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Wow, this list differs quite substantially in some respects from the U.S. News listing (or, at least, the U.S. News listing looked quite different the last time I looked). ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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Columbia University School of Law 8. Duke University School of Law 9. University of Pennsylvania Law School 10. Cornell Law School 11. New York University School of Law 12. University of Texas School of Law 13. University of California - Los Angeles 14. Northwestern University School of Law 15. University of Virginia School of Law 16. Vanderbilt University Law School 17. Georgetown University Law Center 18. Notre Dame Law School 19. University of Minnesota Law School 20. University of California, Hastings College of Law 21. University of Iowa College of Law 22. University of Wisconsin Law School 23. Boston University School of Law 24. Fordham University School of Law 25. University of North Carolina School of Law 26. University of Washington School of Law 27. University of Southern California Law School 28. University of California - Davis 29. Tulane University School of Law 30. Indiana University School of Law-Bloomington 31. University of Utah College of Law 32. George Washington University Law School 33. Ohio State University College of Law 34. University of the Pacific (McGeorge) 35. Southern Methodist University School of Law 36. Albany Law School, Union University 37. Loyola Law School 38. University of Illinois College of Law 39. State University of New York at Buffalo 40. Marquette University Law School 41. Washington University School of Law 42. Boston College Law School 43. Hofstra University School of Law 44. Emory University School of Law 45. Catholic University of American School of Law 46. Temple University, Beasley School of Law 47. University of Georgia School of Law 48. University of Denver College of Law 49. University of Houston Law Center 50. American University, Washington College of Law 51. Chicago-Kent College of Law, ITT 52. Syracuse University College of Law 53. University of San Diego School of Law 54. University of San Francisco School of Law 55. University of Missouri-Columbia 56. University of Florida, Levin College of Law 57. University of Maryland School of Law 58. Yeshiva University, Cardozo School of Law 59. University of Pittsburgh School of Law 60. Case Western Reserve University Law School 61. Rutgers State University-Newark (NJ) 62. Santa Clara University School of Law 63. University of Kansas School of Law 64. Villanova University School of Law 65. Rutgers State University-Camden (NJ) 66. Pepperdine University School of Law 67. University of Oregon School of Law 68. Wayne State University Law School 69. Saint Louis University School of Law 70. St. John's University School of Law 71. Brigham Young University, Clark Law School 72. Brooklyn Law School (NY) 73. Willamette University College of Law 74. Valparaiso University School of Law 75. University of Colorado School of Law 76. Loyola University Chicago School of Law 77. Gonzaga University School of Law 78. Southwestern University School of Law 79. University of Detroit Mercy School of Law 80. College of William and Mary, (Marshall-Wythe) 81. Seton Hall University School of Law 82. Golden Gate University School of Law 83. Florida State University College of Law 84. University of Oklahoma Law Center 85. DePaul University College of Law 86. Louisiana State University Law Center 87. University of Connecticut School of Law 88. University of Missouri-Kansas City 89. New York Law School 90. University of Miami School of Law 91. Drake University Law School 92. University of Arizona, Rogers College of Law 93. Duquesne University School of Law 94. Baylor University School of Law 95. Arizona State University College of Law 96. University of Louisville, Brandeis School of Law 97. University of Cincinnati College of Law 98. Pennsylvania State University (Dickinson) 99. University of Kentucky College of Law 100. University of Mississippi School of Law 101. University of Alabama School of Law 102. University of Nebraska College of Law 103. Michigan State University-Detroit College of Law 104. University of Tulsa College of Law 105. Washburn University School of Law 106. West Virginia University College of Law 107. Texas Tech University School of Law 108. Lewis and Clark Northwestern School of Law 109. Southern Illinois University School of Law 110. Indiana University School of Law, Indianapolis 111. Wake Forest University School of Law 112. Suffolk University Law School 113. Northeastern University School of Law 114. Creighton University School of Law 115. John Marshall Law School 116. New England School of Law 117. California Western School of Law 118. University of Tennessee College of Law 119. Mercer University Law School 120. Washington and Lee University School of Law 121. University of South Carolina School of Law 122. William Mitchell College of Law 123. Thomas M. Cooley Law School 124. University of Akron, McDowell Law Center 125. University of Puget Sound 126. Howard University 127. University of Arkansas, Fayetteville (Leflar) 128. University of New Mexico School of Law 129. University of Montana School of Law 130. Cleveland State University (Marshall) 131. Capital University Law School 132. Hamline University School of Law 133. George Mason University School of Law 134. University of Idaho College of Law 135. Samford University (Cumberland) 136. Oklahoma City University School of Law 137. Western New England College School of Law 138. Ohio Northern University, Pettit College of Law 139. University of Hawaii, Richardson School of Law 140. Widener University School of Law 141. University of Richmond School of Law 142. University of Memphis (Humphreys) 143. University of Dayton School of Law 144. Franklin Pierce Law Center 145. University of Wyoming 146. University of Baltimore School of Law 147. Stetson University College of Law 148. Nova University 149. University of Maine School of Law 150. Whittier Law School 151. St. Mary's University 152. Vermont Law School 153. Loyola University New Orleans School of Law 154. University of Toledo College of Law 155. University of South Dakota School of Law 156. University of Arkansas, Little Rock (Bowen) 157. Northern Illinois University College of Law 158. Pace University School of Law 159. University of North Dakota School of Law 160. Texas Southern University (Thurgood Marshall) 161. University of Puerto Rico 162. South Texas College of Law 163. Northern Kentucky University (Chase) 164. Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico 165. North Carolina Central University 166. Campbell University 167. Inter American University of Puerto Rico 168. Mississippi College School of Law 169. Touro College (Fuchsberg) 170. Georgia State University College of Law 171. CUNY Queens College 172. Southern University 173. District of Columbia -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters Hi All: Where do these three colleges rank in the scheme of things? 1. University of Denver Sturm College of Law 2. University of Colorado, Boulder School of Law 3. Indiana University Bloomington Maurer School of Law Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Tue Jul 2 21:14:16 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:14:16 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Mr. McBride: Much thanks for this list. I find it intriguing that Yale fell to No. 3! Michigan must be doing a pretty good job to have beaten out the big whigs! I guess the elite league schools were not always great when it comes to hitting a home run. Kudos to Harvard though: It keeps managing to get a seat on the Supreme Court even though getting there is at the whims and caprices of the politicians! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Jul 2 21:24:56 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:24:56 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters In-Reply-To: References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253C99FA@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> What is the date of this list? Wikipedia says it hasn't been updated since 1997, but as we all know, Wikipedia doesn't always get the story straight. Thanks. ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:14 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters Hello Mr. McBride: Much thanks for this list. I find it intriguing that Yale fell to No. 3! Michigan must be doing a pretty good job to have beaten out the big whigs! I guess the elite league schools were not always great when it comes to hitting a home run. Kudos to Harvard though: It keeps managing to get a seat on the Supreme Court even though getting there is at the whims and caprices of the politicians! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 22:55:11 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:55:11 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253C99FA@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <010b01ce7298$971c41d0$c554c570$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253AE567@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <00aa01ce73b3$2d0d9c50$8728d4f0$@timeldermusic.com> <009601ce740a$dd313e50$9793baf0$@sbcglobal.net> <01ce01ce7758$53cc2c00$fb648400$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472253C99FA@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: How are these lists drawn up? What is taken into account? On 7/2/13, Angela Matney wrote: > What is the date of this list? Wikipedia says it hasn't been updated since > 1997, but as we all know, Wikipedia doesn't always get the story straight. > Thanks. > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler > Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and > any > attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you > are > not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, > distribution > or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received > this > e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender > and > delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury > Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any > attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose > of > avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor > may > any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person > any > transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any > attachments. > > ----------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- > Victory Associates LTD, Inc. > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:14 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters > > Hello Mr. McBride: > > Much thanks for this list. I find it intriguing that Yale fell to No. 3! > Michigan must be doing a pretty good job to have beaten out the big whigs! > I guess the elite league schools were not always great when it comes to > hitting a home run. Kudos to Harvard though: It keeps managing to get a > seat on the Supreme Court even though getting there is at the whims and > caprices of the politicians! > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 11:03:23 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:03:23 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Has Anyone Experience With Summation? Message-ID: Hi all, I'm looking for tips and tricks to make this programme accessible. Thanks Ger From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 16:37:51 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 17:37:51 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Has Anyone Experience With Summation? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Sorry to press regarding this but if anyone has any tips on using Summation Pro and making it accessible, I really would be grateful for your feedback. Kind regards Ger On 7/3/13, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for tips and tricks to make this programme accessible. > > Thanks > > Ger > From rumpole at roadrunner.com Thu Jul 4 14:19:17 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:19:17 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] To arms! To arms! The British are coming! Message-ID: <9E06F997CFB548B9959008A3AAB6BDD0@mycomputer> >From the Law Office of Ross A. Doerr in Augusta maine to everyone on the list, Happy 4th of July. It is critical that people, just like everyone on this list, keep advocating for equality and to vindicate the rights of those who need legal representation, and who also happen to have some sort of disability. Freedom takes many forms, but it takes work. The sort of work that we, those who aren't "mainstream" do on an almost daily basis. Keep your musket handy and your powder dry. Ross From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Jul 5 12:36:42 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:36:42 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Save the Date -- Dinner Forum on Disability Access Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3A6F8426@PL-EMSMB20.ees.hhs.gov> [cid:image005.png at 01CE795A.C6610E30] [A DIALOGUE ON ACCESSIBILITY OF THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS Mid-Atlantic Lyceum Fall Repast and Repartee Series] October 8, 2013 Repast and Repartee Series: Access to Cultural Arts and Institutions 6:00 pm - 8:15 pm American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Avenue, NW, Room 603, Washington, D.C. 20016 Background Like no other point in history, people with disabilities are more visible in civil society, inclusive of our cultural arts as well as our frivolities, such as television. The fall, 2013, line-up on television will include more people with disabilities as characters than ever before. In the District, institutions like the Kennedy Center, the Shakespeare Theatre, and the Smithsonian have more audio description than has ever been a reality for people with sensory disabilities. Whether it is the Americans with Disabilities Act or the convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, there are more legal frameworks than ever before, yet more work is needed to make civil rights of people with disabilities, including, their assistance dogs, a reality. The Lyceum is thusly honored that a reception will occur in the month of October to celebrate disability awareness and to advance the mission of the Lyceum of bringing people together to discuss public policy. This will be a facilitated presentation and community forum on these issues with a transcript to be published possibly in the Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy in its third issue. Featured Speakers and Facilitators Remarks by Master of Ceremony and co-facilitator -- Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M., Co-founder of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and Co-founder of its Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy Betty Siegel, Esq., Director of VSA and Accessibility at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Beth Ziebarth, Director of the Smithsonian Institution Accessibility Program Adeen Postar, Esq. Deputy Director of the Pence Law Library and Adjunct Professor Discussant and facilitator - Day Al Mohamed, Esq., Screen Writer and Anthology Editor Supporters Maryland Department of Disabilities Maryland bar Foundation The Animals and Society Institute Museum of Maritime Pets Maryland Animal Law Center Registration is free but required - please go to www.wcl.american.edu/secle/registration. For assistance, please contact: Office of Special Events & Continuing Legal Education, 202.274.4075 or secle at wcl.american.edu. 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I have used the jaws ocr function to pick up the controls in the application but when I click on them using the mouse buttons and jaws cursor, nothing happens. Any ideas on what is going on here or how it can be fixed would be hugely welcome. I'm sorry to post this again but I haven't heard anything on this and as you will realize, using this software will be important and valuable if possible. If this is not possible, can you suggest the best ways of carrying out pretty large scale review of e discovery? Thanks Ger From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 19:50:04 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:50:04 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I meant to add that even if you haven't used this programme, I'd be grateful for your thoughts. Ger On 7/5/13, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > Hi all, > > I wonder if any of you have had experience of using summation pro with > Jaws? > > As you may be aware ,Summation is a web based programme for managing e > discovery. > > The fact that the documents for discovery are already scanned and > available online is, as you will appreciate, a massive advantage. > > However, I am currently struggling with the interface. > > Jaws is not picking up the controls at all and seems to regard them as > images. > > I have used the jaws ocr function to pick up the controls in the > application but when I click on them using the mouse buttons and jaws > cursor, nothing happens. > > Any ideas on what is going on here or how it can be fixed would be > hugely welcome. > > I'm sorry to post this again but I haven't heard anything on this and > as you will realize, using this software will be important and > valuable if possible. > > If this is not possible, can you suggest the best ways of carrying out > pretty large scale review of e discovery? > > Thanks > > Ger > From rfarber at jw.com Fri Jul 5 19:58:05 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:58:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20B8BA81946@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Gerard - I don't use Summation, but I believe that if the controls always appear at the same place on the screen, JAWS can be taught where those controls are on the screen. Then you can use JAWS to go to those controls and click the mouse. I had to do this on another program several years ago, but we no longer use the program and I have forgotten how to set it up. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 2:50 PM To: blindlaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro I meant to add that even if you haven't used this programme, I'd be grateful for your thoughts. Ger On 7/5/13, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > Hi all, > > I wonder if any of you have had experience of using summation pro with > Jaws? > > As you may be aware ,Summation is a web based programme for managing e > discovery. > > The fact that the documents for discovery are already scanned and > available online is, as you will appreciate, a massive advantage. > > However, I am currently struggling with the interface. > > Jaws is not picking up the controls at all and seems to regard them as > images. > > I have used the jaws ocr function to pick up the controls in the > application but when I click on them using the mouse buttons and jaws > cursor, nothing happens. > > Any ideas on what is going on here or how it can be fixed would be > hugely welcome. > > I'm sorry to post this again but I haven't heard anything on this and > as you will realize, using this software will be important and > valuable if possible. > > If this is not possible, can you suggest the best ways of carrying out > pretty large scale review of e discovery? > > Thanks > > Ger > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 20:06:32 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:06:32 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20B8BA81946@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20B8BA81946@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: Randy, Thanks for this, sounds complicated though to be honest! The man I spoke to from the company we use to scan in material said that he understood that there were some developments regarding accessibility of this programme, connected with US government requirements for government contracts. He was unable to say more but promised to check and revert to me. I also emailed the company, Access Data directly. Technical support most helpfully that they didn't know if there was any screen reader support but doubted there was any. They promised to revert but have not yet done so. Thanks Ger On 7/5/13, Farber, Randy wrote: > Gerard - > > I don't use Summation, but I believe that if the controls always appear at > the same place on the screen, JAWS can be taught where those controls are on > the screen. Then you can use JAWS to go to those controls and click the > mouse. I had to do this on another program several years ago, but we no > longer use the program and I have forgotten how to set it up. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 2:50 PM > To: blindlaw > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro > > I meant to add that even if you haven't used this programme, I'd be grateful > for your thoughts. > > Ger > > On 7/5/13, Gerard Sadlier wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I wonder if any of you have had experience of using summation pro with >> Jaws? >> >> As you may be aware ,Summation is a web based programme for managing e >> discovery. >> >> The fact that the documents for discovery are already scanned and >> available online is, as you will appreciate, a massive advantage. >> >> However, I am currently struggling with the interface. >> >> Jaws is not picking up the controls at all and seems to regard them as >> images. >> >> I have used the jaws ocr function to pick up the controls in the >> application but when I click on them using the mouse buttons and jaws >> cursor, nothing happens. >> >> Any ideas on what is going on here or how it can be fixed would be >> hugely welcome. >> >> I'm sorry to post this again but I haven't heard anything on this and >> as you will realize, using this software will be important and >> valuable if possible. >> >> If this is not possible, can you suggest the best ways of carrying out >> pretty large scale review of e discovery? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ger >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Jul 8 15:22:54 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:22:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just based on the program my office uses (Just Ware), this may be an on-going issue with the program itself. JAWS cannot navigate through all of the constant quirks and changes in that program, and even for those not requiring screen narration, PDFs that have been run through the OCR process do not stay in OCR format. This may be what is happening in Summation as well. Our IT has not figured out how to fix this - not even sure they feel particularly motivated to do so. Hopefully you will have better luck. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 12:49 PM To: blindlaw Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent! Accessibility of Summation Pro Hi all, I wonder if any of you have had experience of using summation pro with Jaws? As you may be aware ,Summation is a web based programme for managing e discovery. The fact that the documents for discovery are already scanned and available online is, as you will appreciate, a massive advantage. However, I am currently struggling with the interface. Jaws is not picking up the controls at all and seems to regard them as images. I have used the jaws ocr function to pick up the controls in the application but when I click on them using the mouse buttons and jaws cursor, nothing happens. Any ideas on what is going on here or how it can be fixed would be hugely welcome. I'm sorry to post this again but I haven't heard anything on this and as you will realize, using this software will be important and valuable if possible. If this is not possible, can you suggest the best ways of carrying out pretty large scale review of e discovery? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 8 16:08:17 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:08:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Criminal law adjunct professor position Bellevue College , Washington Message-ID: From: Leslie Lum [mailto:llum at bellevuecollege.edu] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 12:39 PM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Adjunct instructor position at Bellevue College Could you circulate this among your membership? Thanks. Leslie Lum Faculty Business Transfer Program Bellevue College 3000 Landerholm Circle SE Bellevue, WA 98007 (425) 564-4063 Fax (425) 564-6139 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 001-PTF-12 Adjunct Law Faculty.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 912691 bytes Desc: 001-PTF-12 Adjunct Law Faculty.pdf URL: From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 19:09:35 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:09:35 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] How to Progress Complaint re Summation, if Access Data are Unco-operative Message-ID: Hi all, I would be most grateful for your advice on this: If Access Data, makers of summation fail to produce an accessible product, what US laws could I invoke in the matter? Is there a US government agency with whom I could make contact and which might take the matter up on my behalf? I hope that others on this list might also be willing to make complaints etc. in the matter, given the potential advantages of the software. It may be possible to raise this issue under EU law, which is generally quite good in this area. Kind regards Ger From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 13:58:28 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:58:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] accessible netflix project. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51DC1704.7030108@gmail.com> the title says it all, but now we have a web page up. view the page for more details but we are working on making this project bigger, and hopefully the ACB or NFB will pick this up and help us. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_E-thCyobUMcPx1UPodWhBt_iRdeIR36jQqQenQV5jw/pub From lberger at sfmslaw.com Tue Jul 9 14:32:10 2013 From: lberger at sfmslaw.com (Lawrence Berger) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:32:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] How to Progress Complaint re Summation, if Access Data are Unco-operative In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2930a6ce6a53090d208740f5efc2944b@mail.gmail.com> I don't myself have any vision impairment, and am on this list because I know other lawyers that do. And so I would also be interested in learning whether anyone knows whether other litigation support software that is competitive with Summation (e.g. Concordance) is better or worse from an accessibility standpoint. Larry Berger Shepherd Finkelman Miller & Shah LLP mailto:lberger at sfmslaw.com (610) 891-9880 -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:10 PM To: blindlaw Subject: [blindlaw] How to Progress Complaint re Summation, if Access Data are Unco-operative Hi all, I would be most grateful for your advice on this: If Access Data, makers of summation fail to produce an accessible product, what US laws could I invoke in the matter? Is there a US government agency with whom I could make contact and which might take the matter up on my behalf? I hope that others on this list might also be willing to make complaints etc. in the matter, given the potential advantages of the software. It may be possible to raise this issue under EU law, which is generally quite good in this area. Kind regards Ger From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Tue Jul 9 18:43:58 2013 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issue Message-ID: <1373395438.35008.YahooMailBasic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to switch back to classic (my personal preference.) Mike From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Tue Jul 9 18:48:41 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:48:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issue In-Reply-To: <1373395438.35008.YahooMailBasic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1373395438.35008.YahooMailBasic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I held on to classic as long as I could as well - I am fortunate in that I can use it with MAGic at a huge magnification setting, but I have also had problems with JAWS - it will narrate, but only when I force the cursor using the magnification, which I know is not possible for many. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:44 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issue Hi everyone, I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to switch back to classic (my personal preference.) Mike _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 19:34:40 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:34:40 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issue In-Reply-To: References: <1373395438.35008.YahooMailBasic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess we couldn't conduct a similar bombardment of access data re summation ... given that it is dedicated legal software? Ger On 7/9/13, Susan Kelly wrote: > I held on to classic as long as I could as well - I am fortunate in that I > can use it with MAGic at a huge magnification setting, but I have also had > problems with JAWS - it will narrate, but only when I force the cursor using > the magnification, which I know is not possible for many. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike > Gilmore > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:44 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issue > > Hi everyone, > > I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and > is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with > JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility > issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and > get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to > switch back to classic (my personal preference.) > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Tue Jul 9 20:04:47 2013 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:04:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Office for Civil Rights in HHS Regional Manager Position Available Message-ID: The following vacancy announcement below has posted to USA Jobs. Please click on the link below. Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialists (Regional Manager) GS-360-15 Opening Date; July 9, 2013 Closing Date: July 19, 2013 DE: HHS-OS-DE-13-922002 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/347034400 MP: HHS-OS-MP-13-921959 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/347031900 Job Title: Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Regional Manager) Department: Department Of Health And Human Services Agency: Office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services Job Announcement Number: HHS-OS-DE-13-922002 SALARY RANGE: $118,846.00 to $154,501.00 / Per Year OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 to Friday, July 19, 2013 SERIES & GRADE: GS-0360-15 POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time - Permanent PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 15 DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy in the following location: Atlanta, GA United States View Map WHO MAY APPLY: United States Citizens JOB SUMMARY: Become a part of the Department that touches the lives of every American! At the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) you can give back to your community, state, and country by making a difference in the lives of Americans everywhere. It is the principal agency for protecting the health of citizens. Join HHS and help to make our world healthier, safer, and better for all Americans. This position is located in the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Office of the Secretary (OS), Office for Civil Rights (OCR), Atlanta, Georgia This vacancy is also being announced concurrently with vacancy announcement HHS-OS-MP-13-921959 under merit promotion procedures. Please review that announcement to see if you are eligible for consideration under merit promotion procedures. NOTE: Applicants must apply separately for each announcement in order to be considered. Who May Apply: Open to all United States Citizens. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 22:31:01 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:31:01 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Case #368421: Accessibility of Summation Pro For Blind Users In-Reply-To: <021a01ce7cf1$0fb84460$2f28cd20$@com> References: <021a01ce7cf1$0fb84460$2f28cd20$@com> Message-ID: For your information, may they actually be willing to consider doing something about this? I have asked for details of what this enhancement process actually involves and clarification of why he is asking what firm I work for. On the assumption that he is at least going to suggest that the programme be made more accessible for blind users, I wonder if other listers would be prepared to make contact? I will keep you all posted. Ger ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sergey Dubenko Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:10:00 -0700 Subject: Case #368421: Accessibility of Summation Pro For Blind Users To: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Hello Gerard, Could you please tell me the name of a firm you are working so that I can start a formal process on "feature enhancement"? Regards, Dear Sirs, The firm for which I work uses Summation Pro. I am blind and use a screen reader to access web based content. I have been unable to access summation pro, using my screen reader, Jaws For Windows 13. As you will appreciate, I am really anxious to gain access to the materials on this site, as a matter of urgency. I would be very grateful if you could let me know the extent to which your software is accessible to blind users such as myself, using screen reading software. Any workarounds or information you could provide would be greatly appreciated. If you would like to participate in a short 3 minute customer satisfaction survey please call 801-999-8944. Thank you in advance for your valuable input. email_sig_NoFuzz Sergey Dubenko Technical Support Representative - Summation AccessData Group, LLC 1-800-786-2778 summationsupport at accessdata.com Digital Forensics. E-Discovery.Legal Review.Cyber Security Join our growing community on Twitter, LinkedIn, eDiscoveryInsight Blog and Facebook ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- PROTECTED; PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL: This email message and all attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. AccessData does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 22:43:20 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:43:20 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Case #368421: Accessibility of Summation Pro For Blind Users In-Reply-To: <022301ce7cf4$8c4723e0$a4d56ba0$@com> References: <021a01ce7cf1$0fb84460$2f28cd20$@com> <022301ce7cf4$8c4723e0$a4d56ba0$@com> Message-ID: Further to my previous message. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sergey Dubenko Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:34:58 -0700 Subject: RE: Case #368421: Accessibility of Summation Pro For Blind Users To: Gerard Sadlier Hello Gerard, Once I get your firm's name, I can create an official ticket, inform my manager, and he'll bring this issue up with a product manager. I can't tell you what the time frame will be. Regards, -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:20 PM To: Sergey Dubenko Subject: Re: Case #368421: Accessibility of Summation Pro For Blind Users Hi Sergey, Thank you very much for your mail. Can you tell me what this feature enhancement process involves? Can I take it that there is currently no support? That would be really disappointing. Be that as it may, I will discuss this with my firm and get back with the details you require once I have details of what feature enhancement involves, the likely time scale etc. Kind regards Ger On 7/9/13, Sergey Dubenko wrote: > Hello Gerard, > > > > Could you please tell me the name of a firm you are working so that I > can start a formal process on "feature enhancement"? > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > The firm for which I work uses Summation Pro. > > > > I am blind and use a screen reader to access web based content. > > > > I have been unable to access summation pro, using my screen reader, > > Jaws For Windows 13. > > > > As you will appreciate, I am really anxious to gain access to the > > materials on this site, as a matter of urgency. > > > > I would be very grateful if you could let me know the extent to which > > your software is accessible to blind users such as myself, using > > screen reading software. > > > > Any workarounds or information you could provide would be greatly > appreciated. > > > > > > If you would like to participate in a short 3 minute customer > satisfaction survey please call 801-999-8944. Thank you in advance > for your valuable input. > > > > > > email_sig_NoFuzz > > Sergey Dubenko > > Technical Support Representative - Summation > > AccessData Group, LLC > 1-800-786-2778 > > > summationsupport at accessdata.com > > > > Digital Forensics. E-Discovery.Legal Review.Cyber Security > > Join our growing community on > Twitter, > LinkedIn, > eDiscoveryInsight Blog and > 945?re > f=ts> Facebook > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ----- > > PROTECTED; PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL: This email message and all > attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and > destroy all copies of the original message. AccessData does not > represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this > communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free > of errors, virus or interference. > > > > > > > > From dravant at ameritech.net Wed Jul 10 11:02:51 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 06:02:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] United States Supreme Court website Message-ID: Hello all, Has anyone had any experience with reading the rules on the United States Supreme Court website? The rules are in PDF I have had some trouble using JAWS to read some of the new rules. Thanks Sent from my iPhone From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Jul 10 15:38:46 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:38:46 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] United States Supreme Court website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000b01ce7d83$910a9260$b31fb720$@com> Suggestion: Copy the entire PDF file to a place on your computer where you store documents -- such as your C drive. Then use a program to convert the entire PDF file. Save the converted file into a format your comfortable with -- i.e. Microsoft word, and then save that output into a file such as research. In that manner, the information is available to you whenever you want it, and in a format that is easier to use. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:03 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] United States Supreme Court website Hello all, Has anyone had any experience with reading the rules on the United States Supreme Court website? The rules are in PDF I have had some trouble using JAWS to read some of the new rules. Thanks Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From b.s.spiry at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 20:33:49 2013 From: b.s.spiry at gmail.com (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:33:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Black's Law Dictionary In-Reply-To: References: <000701ce4616$012e7610$038b6230$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <002001ce7e75$f3900b20$dab02160$@gmail.com> There is a good iOS version as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:02 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Black's Law Dictionary I found a daisy file Blacks Law Dictionary somewhere, I think on bookshare. I haven't put it on a player so I haven't tested it. But I downloaded a Braille (brf) version and a Daisy text only version. It is the 7th edition. You should be able to put it on a Braille notetaker or on a Daisy player. If you want I can see where I got it. If it is from Bookshare I believe you have to become a member to access their books. Hope this helps. On 4/30/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Colleagues: > > > > I spoke with a Westlaw rep today about Black's Law Dictionary, Ninth > Edition. It is available in hardback. It is not available as an E > book, nor in any other digital cd or flash drive format. > > > > I asked if it happened to be available in braille. He did not know, > said he will inquire and get back with me. > > > > Any general thoughts out there? > > > > Daniel McBride, Attorney > > Fort Worth, Texas > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%4 > 0gmail.com > -- SHANNON L. DILLON _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com From awebb2168 at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 21:08:23 2013 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:08:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking Message-ID: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> Hello all, Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew Webb From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Jul 10 21:11:46 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:11:46 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> Message-ID: I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking Hello all, Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov From dravant at ameritech.net Wed Jul 10 22:46:30 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:46:30 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> Message-ID: <8A406516-436E-4AAE-B022-FBE88AB207EA@ameritech.net> JAWs has a feature called text analyzer which is helpful. But I would say having a proofreader is wise for lawyers in general Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Susan Kelly wrote: > I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking > > Hello all, > > > > Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Webb > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Jul 10 22:55:37 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:55:37 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: <8A406516-436E-4AAE-B022-FBE88AB207EA@ameritech.net> References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> <8A406516-436E-4AAE-B022-FBE88AB207EA@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <014601ce7dc0$97e1e600$c7a5b200$@com> I agree! What it says is for me -- how it looks is for my assistant. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:47 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blue Booking JAWs has a feature called text analyzer which is helpful. But I would say having a proofreader is wise for lawyers in general Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Susan Kelly wrote: > I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking > > Hello all, > > > > Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Webb > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.ne t _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 23:05:51 2013 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:05:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court Message-ID: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ From pattichang at att.net Wed Jul 10 23:12:08 2013 From: pattichang at att.net (pattichang at att.net) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:12:08 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. Patti S. Gregory-Chang NFBI President NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From dravant at ameritech.net Wed Jul 10 23:16:11 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:16:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> Message-ID: As part of discovery, you may be able to review the photos beforehand with an assistant Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. > > > Patti S. Gregory-Chang > NFBI President > NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > >> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Wed Jul 10 23:33:21 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 23:33:21 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, Message-ID: failing field sobriety tests. In that case I had another attorney review the footage with me and describe for me what was going on in the video. The blindness is a factor, yes, however attorneys witnesses and court personnel who are blind will receive in most instances a reasonable accommodation in order to complete their job. This is been my experience I hope that this helps.I am a criminal defense attorney and I am currently working a case in domestic violence where there are pictures I also have a family law case where there is some video involved I have other attorneys review the footage with me and therefore I can get an idea of what is going on in the media. Specifically the media I mean the videos and pictures that are part of discovery. I have also had a driving under the influence case where there was video of the defendant Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:26, "denise avant" wrote: > As part of discovery, you may be able to review the photos beforehand with an assistant > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > >> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. >> >> >> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >> NFBI President >> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: >> >>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From parnell at sccoast.net Wed Jul 10 23:37:44 2013 From: parnell at sccoast.net (Parnell Diggs) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:37:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> Message-ID: Hello legal professionals, The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the blind defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted therein is indeed the defendant. At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state to present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. Parnell Diggs, Esq. President National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. > > > Patti S. Gregory-Chang > NFBI President > NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > >> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoast.net From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Jul 11 00:15:27 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:15:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn><75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, Message-ID: I mainly do personal injury cases and often have to deal with pictures of accident scenes and client injuries. I currently have a case where the client suffers a scar on her face from the accident. This is major as it goes towards evaluating the amount of damages in the case. The key is to review the pictures ahead of time and take lots of notes. If possible, have multiple people describe them to you so you have a better impression of all possibilities. I have sat on arbitration panels and hear cases with diagrams and pictures as evidence. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Transactional commercial real estate, Personal injury, and Immigration -----Original Message----- From: Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:33 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court failing field sobriety tests. In that case I had another attorney review the footage with me and describe for me what was going on in the video. The blindness is a factor, yes, however attorneys witnesses and court personnel who are blind will receive in most instances a reasonable accommodation in order to complete their job. This is been my experience I hope that this helps.I am a criminal defense attorney and I am currently working a case in domestic violence where there are pictures I also have a family law case where there is some video involved I have other attorneys review the footage with me and therefore I can get an idea of what is going on in the media. Specifically the media I mean the videos and pictures that are part of discovery. I have also had a driving under the influence case where there was video of the defendant Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:26, "denise avant" wrote: > As part of discovery, you may be able to review the photos beforehand with > an assistant > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > >> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial >> evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I >> think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys >> verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally >> anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states >> require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a >> proper foundation. >> >> >> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >> NFBI President >> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" >> wrote: >> >>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on >>> murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime >>> seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence >>> lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Thu Jul 11 00:20:05 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 00:20:05 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, Message-ID: I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > Hello legal professionals, > The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the blind defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted therein is indeed the defendant. > > At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state to present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. > > Parnell Diggs, Esq. > President > National Federation of the Blind > of South Carolina > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > >> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. >> >> >> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >> NFBI President >> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: >> >>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoast.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From b.s.spiry at gmail.com Fri Jul 12 00:40:44 2013 From: b.s.spiry at gmail.com (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:40:44 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: <000c01ce7e98$72071a80$56154f80$@gmail.com> The court's first duty is to ensure that the defendant gets a fair trial. If accommodation is necessary for an attorney to adequately represent her client, then I think the court has a duty to provide that reasonable accommodation. In this case, accommodation might mean permitting the defense attorney to take time to review and examine documentary evidence such as photos or diagrams with a sighted assistant to get an effective description of the images. A denial by the court to provide a reasonable accommodation to an attorney where that accommodation is necessary for the attorney to effectively represent her client argueably could violate defendants rights under the 6th and 14th amendment. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:06 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com From pattichang at att.net Thu Jul 11 00:47:43 2013 From: pattichang at att.net (pattichang at att.net) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:47:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> Message-ID: <808F8D1E-90FB-4C55-B2EC-2FFB83EBC02A@att.net> I practice in Chicago. I do not practice criminal law but find most opposing counsel and almost all judges to accommodate as needed. Patti S. Gregory-Chang NFBI President NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:20 PM, "Dittman, Robert" wrote: > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the blind defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state to present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoast.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 11 01:11:39 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:11:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, Message-ID: <00b201ce7dd3$995c5660$cc150320$@sbcglobal.net> Robert: In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. >From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that of the Citizen Accused. This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. Always good to hear from you my friend. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > Hello legal professionals, > The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the blind defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted therein is indeed the defendant. > > At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state to present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. > > Parnell Diggs, Esq. > President > National Federation of the Blind > of South Carolina > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: > >> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. >> >> >> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >> NFBI President >> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: >> >>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40a >>> tt.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoa >> st.net > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar > ytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 11 01:28:31 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:28:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <000c01ce7e98$72071a80$56154f80$@gmail.com> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <000c01ce7e98$72071a80$56154f80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ba01ce7dd5$f43393d0$dc9abb70$@sbcglobal.net> Bill: I will take slight issue with one of your points. The Court's requirement is to be a fair and neutral magistrate. I do not believe that the Court has any obligation to see that a Citizen Accused gets a fair trial. That is the burden of defense counsel. Heck, if it was the duty of a Judge to see that Citizens Accused get a fair trial, and they actually adhered to their obligation, we wouldn't need lawyers. I do not know where you are from, but I can assure you that Texas judges run roughshod over the Citizen Accused everyday. And the Texas Courts of Appeals and Texas Court of Criminal Appeals affirm their convictions with regularity under the harmless error analysis rule. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill Spiry Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:41 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court The court's first duty is to ensure that the defendant gets a fair trial. If accommodation is necessary for an attorney to adequately represent her client, then I think the court has a duty to provide that reasonable accommodation. In this case, accommodation might mean permitting the defense attorney to take time to review and examine documentary evidence such as photos or diagrams with a sighted assistant to get an effective description of the images. A denial by the court to provide a reasonable accommodation to an attorney where that accommodation is necessary for the attorney to effectively represent her client argueably could violate defendants rights under the 6th and 14th amendment. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:06 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Thu Jul 11 04:02:09 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 04:02:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <00b201ce7dd3$995c5660$cc150320$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, <00b201ce7dd3$995c5660$cc150320$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing more as > blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article 39.14 > Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this statute, the > State is going to be obligated to very broad and significant requirements > for discovery upon proper request by Defense Counsel. If requested, the > State need do nothing more than provide same to Defense Counsel, blind or > not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the Citizen > Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, but, the right to > Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind attorney insists that > his client receives Effective Assistance, the problem then becomes that of > the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that of the > Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal cases, but > I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty much > telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word got out in > the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future trials with me, to > pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind criminal defense attorney > can cause the Court major headaches, regarding proper review of offered > evidence and the time required to review it, in pursuing his client's right > to Effective Assistance. That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due > to being blind, but the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally > accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, > Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was that in > many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney or assistant > district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. Or, at least this > is been my experience practicing in San Antonio Texas. I guess I have been > lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted therein > is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if the > defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made decisions > about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the court often has > overruled my objections, just as it would with a sighted attorney. In the > meantime, the defense attorney may want to come up with an explanation as to > why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I > think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally > describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that > related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a > witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper > foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40a >>>> tt.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoa >>> st.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar >> ytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Jul 11 14:32:10 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:32:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net> Message-ID: As an attorney who does appeals and who has been on both sides of the vision situation, the verbal description is the best way to go. It benefits everyone, sighted or not, and at least here in Arizona, photographs and other exhibits (except in homicide cases) generally are NOT transmitted to the Court of Appeals as part of the record on appeal. Having a detailed description of each photo in the transcripts of the proceeding is the surest way of making a record of the full proceeding for the appellate court. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of pattichang at att.net Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:12 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was pictorial evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in order to lay a proper foundation. Patti S. Gregory-Chang NFBI President NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer on > murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the crime > seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the defence > lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att > .net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov From sbg at sbgaal.com Thu Jul 11 14:48:44 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:48:44 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, <00b201ce7dd3$995c5660$cc150320$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00ff01ce7e45$bf20bcc0$3d623640$@sbgaal.com> Good point Dan! Keep on fighting the good fight! Shannon Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing > more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article > 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this > statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and > significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense > Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide > same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the > Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, > but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind > attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the > problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that > of the Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal > cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty > much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word > got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future > trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind > criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, > regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to > review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. > That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but > the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Dittman, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was > that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney > or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. > Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio > Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >> blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted > therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >> to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if > the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made > decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the > court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a > sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to > come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>> pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked > and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both > attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference > verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that > most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in > order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for > blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40 >>>> a >>>> tt.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for > blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40scco >>> a >>> st.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stma >> r >> ytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar > ytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 11 15:31:54 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:31:54 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court Message-ID: <009e01ce7e4b$c64460a0$52cd21e0$@sbcglobal.net> Hello Robert: I am glad to assist you at any time in any way I can. Regarding the trial setting and judges: the only person in a criminal trial with any rights is the Defendant. Remember that trial is all about preserving the record for appeal in the event your hero is found guilty, which is about 95% of the time. Thus, get accustomed to the concept of effective assistance of counsel (your client's right) and mention the concept of reasonable accommodations only as they relate directly to effective assistance of counsel. Otherwise, the judge could care less about the ADA and reasonable accommodations. Simply substitute reasonable accommodation with effective assistance. And, to properly preserve error for appeal, you must make it clear on the record what is occurring in the courtroom and be specific about how it is depriving your client of effective assistance, as well as being very specific about what you are proposing to do to provide effective assistance. For the record, your objections will always be denial of your client's right to effective assistance, a fair trial, due process and so forth. Your objection should never be your right to reasonable accommodations. And, regarding your prosecuting brothers at the bar; when you walk into a courtroom and seat the venire for jury selection, the brother at the bar disappears. While in trial, you are the enemy and they will run over you with a quickness. In fact, they will pull every dirty trick in the book to convict your client, including any advantage they might gain due to your blindness. In Tarrant County, there are usually three prosecutors present at every trial. Two are sitting at counsel table for the State and the other is sitting on the bench. My guess is that this is true in Bexar County as well. So, as a criminal defense attorney in a jury trial, understand that you and your client are the only two people in that courtroom who have any interest in a level playing field. Again, I am glad to assist at any time. Your true brother at the defense bar, Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blind law [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] is blindness ever consider an issue in court Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing > more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article > 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this > statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and > significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense > Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide > same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the > Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, > but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind > attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the > problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that > of the Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal > cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty > much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word > got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future > trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind > criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, > regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to > review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. > That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but > the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Dittman, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was > that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney > or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. > Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio > Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >> blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted > therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >> to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if > the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made > decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the > court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a > sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to > come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>> pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked > and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both > attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference > verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that > most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in > order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for > blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40 >>>> a >>>> tt.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for > blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40scco >>> a >>> st.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stma >> r >> ytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar > ytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Thu Jul 11 15:57:43 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:57:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court In-Reply-To: References: <000601ce7dc2$069d69b0$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> <75189C04-D0B3-4D76-A760-EECD6E95D2EE@att.net>, <00b201ce7dd3$995c5660$cc150320$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00b301ce7e4f$614ac7d0$23e05770$@com> Check with your local colleges to see if their students do unpaid internships. If so, tap into that source; any student thinking about law school may be interested because listing prior work for a law office looks good on a law school application. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing > more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article > 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this > statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and > significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense > Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide > same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the > Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, > but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind > attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the > problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that > of the Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal > cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty > much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word > got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future > trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind > criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, > regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to > review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. > That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but > the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Dittman, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was > that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney > or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. > Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio > Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >> blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted > therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >> to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if > the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made > decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the > court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a > sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to > come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>> pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked > and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both > attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference > verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that > most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in > order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for > blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40 >>>> a >>>> tt.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for > blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40scco >>> a >>> st.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stma >> r >> ytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar > ytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 11 16:32:49 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:32:49 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court In-Reply-To: <009e01ce7e4b$c64460a0$52cd21e0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <009e01ce7e4b$c64460a0$52cd21e0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <021c01ce7e54$48a13480$d9e39d80$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings, this has been a most interesting thread of emails. I certainly agree with the concept that the primary responsibility rests on the blind attorney in terms of making sure that he/she has methods in place to get at information presented visually. I am also sympathetic with the pressures put on and lack of resources faced by solo practitioners just starting out. I have run my own practice now for fifteen years and certainly have the capacity to bring whatever assistance, human or otherwise, to a trial setting. However, this was most definitely not the case when I first hoisted my shingle. One resource that those just starting out should consider is working with your VR program and getting some reader type services as part of your original IPE or as ongoing post employment services from VR. I was able to secure such funding and it helped me out for the first several months of practice. Now, on another note, although it is generally true that the criminal defendant is the one with substantial rights during a criminal process, I would not agree with the concept that the criminal defendant is the only one with such rights. Both the state Court and the prosecutor's office are Title II ADA and very likely Section 504 covered entities. One could argue that prosecution of cases is a program or activity of the state. Program and activities of the state are subject to requests for accommodation. Therefore, a blind criminal defense attorney arguably has some right to request that the Court or the prosecutor provide some level of accessibility. Of course, there is no clear boundry as to what specific obligations the Court and the prosecutor have. Is it reasonable, for example, to ask the Court or someone connected with the DA's office to describe pictorial exhibits? Best practice would be to have someone connected with the Court to do this because of the inherent bius of the prosecutor etc. In the end, your primary obligation is to your client and your capacity to represent her or him to the best of your ability. So, one should always have a plan in place to get the information you need. Best, Scott -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:32 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court Hello Robert: I am glad to assist you at any time in any way I can. Regarding the trial setting and judges: the only person in a criminal trial with any rights is the Defendant. Remember that trial is all about preserving the record for appeal in the event your hero is found guilty, which is about 95% of the time. Thus, get accustomed to the concept of effective assistance of counsel (your client's right) and mention the concept of reasonable accommodations only as they relate directly to effective assistance of counsel. Otherwise, the judge could care less about the ADA and reasonable accommodations. Simply substitute reasonable accommodation with effective assistance. And, to properly preserve error for appeal, you must make it clear on the record what is occurring in the courtroom and be specific about how it is depriving your client of effective assistance, as well as being very specific about what you are proposing to do to provide effective assistance. For the record, your objections will always be denial of your client's right to effective assistance, a fair trial, due process and so forth. Your objection should never be your right to reasonable accommodations. And, regarding your prosecuting brothers at the bar; when you walk into a courtroom and seat the venire for jury selection, the brother at the bar disappears. While in trial, you are the enemy and they will run over you with a quickness. In fact, they will pull every dirty trick in the book to convict your client, including any advantage they might gain due to your blindness. In Tarrant County, there are usually three prosecutors present at every trial. Two are sitting at counsel table for the State and the other is sitting on the bench. My guess is that this is true in Bexar County as well. So, as a criminal defense attorney in a jury trial, understand that you and your client are the only two people in that courtroom who have any interest in a level playing field. Again, I am glad to assist at any time. Your true brother at the defense bar, Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blind law [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] is blindness ever consider an issue in court Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing > more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article > 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this > statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and > significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense > Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide > same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the > Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, > but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind > attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the > problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that > of the Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal > cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty > much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word > got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future > trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind > criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, > regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to > review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. > That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but > the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Dittman, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was > that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney > or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. > Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio > Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >> blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted > therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >> to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if > the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made > decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the > court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a > sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to > come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>> pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked > and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both > attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference > verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that > most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in > order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for > blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40 >>>> a >>>> tt.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for > blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40scco >>> a >>> st.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stma >> r >> ytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar > ytx.edu _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw. com From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 11 17:48:02 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:48:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court In-Reply-To: <021c01ce7e54$48a13480$d9e39d80$@labarrelaw.com> References: <009e01ce7e4b$c64460a0$52cd21e0$@sbcglobal.net> <021c01ce7e54$48a13480$d9e39d80$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: <011e01ce7e5e$cad07dd0$60717970$@sbcglobal.net> Scott: Regarding your thought: Now, on another note, although it is generally true that the criminal defendant is the one with substantial rights during a criminal process, I would not agree with the concept that the criminal defendant is the only one with such rights. Both the state Court and the prosecutor's office are Title II ADA and very likely Section 504 covered entities. One could argue that prosecution of cases is a program or activity of the state. Program and activities of the state are subject to requests for accommodation. Therefore, a blind criminal defense attorney arguably has some right to request that the Court or the prosecutor provide some level of accessibility. Of course, there is no clear boundry as to what specific obligations the Court and the prosecutor have. In Texas, during a criminal trial, if circumstances arise necessitating a blind lawyer's reasonable accommodation, it is not advisable to say, "I object your Honor, as a violation of the ADA." You are likely to be overruled, unless your client is an American with a disability. You had best say, "I object your Honor, as to deny me the opportunity to fully review this exhibit prior to its admission is a violation of my client's right to effective assistance of counsel, a fair trial and due process," and then be specific as to your need for accommodation. And I hate to know how tough it might be in civil trials, because the right to effective assistance of counsel applies only to criminal matters under the Sixth Amendment. In a civil matter, I think one best couch their objections in terms of their client's right to due process and equal protection. I have been involved in dozens of criminal jury trials and the ADA objection isn't going to get you very far. I continue to contend that my rights to reasonable accommodations during a criminal trial must be couched in direct terms to my client's right to effective assistance of counsel, and not pursuant to any right I think I might have under the ADA. Furthermore, when I was a prosecutor, judges constantly pushed me to "move along counselor." At times I would object to needing more time and be denied. And, from the State's side, this is not an issue that the State can appeal. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. LaBarre Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court Greetings, this has been a most interesting thread of emails. I certainly agree with the concept that the primary responsibility rests on the blind attorney in terms of making sure that he/she has methods in place to get at information presented visually. I am also sympathetic with the pressures put on and lack of resources faced by solo practitioners just starting out. I have run my own practice now for fifteen years and certainly have the capacity to bring whatever assistance, human or otherwise, to a trial setting. However, this was most definitely not the case when I first hoisted my shingle. One resource that those just starting out should consider is working with your VR program and getting some reader type services as part of your original IPE or as ongoing post employment services from VR. I was able to secure such funding and it helped me out for the first several months of practice. Now, on another note, although it is generally true that the criminal defendant is the one with substantial rights during a criminal process, I would not agree with the concept that the criminal defendant is the only one with such rights. Both the state Court and the prosecutor's office are Title II ADA and very likely Section 504 covered entities. One could argue that prosecution of cases is a program or activity of the state. Program and activities of the state are subject to requests for accommodation. Therefore, a blind criminal defense attorney arguably has some right to request that the Court or the prosecutor provide some level of accessibility. Of course, there is no clear boundry as to what specific obligations the Court and the prosecutor have. Is it reasonable, for example, to ask the Court or someone connected with the DA's office to describe pictorial exhibits? Best practice would be to have someone connected with the Court to do this because of the inherent bius of the prosecutor etc. In the end, your primary obligation is to your client and your capacity to represent her or him to the best of your ability. So, one should always have a plan in place to get the information you need. Best, Scott -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:32 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court Hello Robert: I am glad to assist you at any time in any way I can. Regarding the trial setting and judges: the only person in a criminal trial with any rights is the Defendant. Remember that trial is all about preserving the record for appeal in the event your hero is found guilty, which is about 95% of the time. Thus, get accustomed to the concept of effective assistance of counsel (your client's right) and mention the concept of reasonable accommodations only as they relate directly to effective assistance of counsel. Otherwise, the judge could care less about the ADA and reasonable accommodations. Simply substitute reasonable accommodation with effective assistance. And, to properly preserve error for appeal, you must make it clear on the record what is occurring in the courtroom and be specific about how it is depriving your client of effective assistance, as well as being very specific about what you are proposing to do to provide effective assistance. For the record, your objections will always be denial of your client's right to effective assistance, a fair trial, due process and so forth. Your objection should never be your right to reasonable accommodations. And, regarding your prosecuting brothers at the bar; when you walk into a courtroom and seat the venire for jury selection, the brother at the bar disappears. While in trial, you are the enemy and they will run over you with a quickness. In fact, they will pull every dirty trick in the book to convict your client, including any advantage they might gain due to your blindness. In Tarrant County, there are usually three prosecutors present at every trial. Two are sitting at counsel table for the State and the other is sitting on the bench. My guess is that this is true in Bexar County as well. So, as a criminal defense attorney in a jury trial, understand that you and your client are the only two people in that courtroom who have any interest in a level playing field. Again, I am glad to assist at any time. Your true brother at the defense bar, Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blind law [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] is blindness ever consider an issue in court Hi Dan, Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and are ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) has on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in order that I may be on a level playing field. I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see me at my office. Your brother at the bar. On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > Robert: > > In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing > more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. > > As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article > 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this > statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and > significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense > Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide > same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. > > From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the > Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, > but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind > attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the > problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. > > When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me > opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk > reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective Assistance. > > This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that > of the Citizen Accused. > > This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal > cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. > > The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty > much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word > got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future > trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind > criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, > regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to > review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. > That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but > the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of effective assistance of counsel. > > Always good to hear from you my friend. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Dittman, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court > > I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do > anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was > that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney > or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. > Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio > Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: > >> Hello legal professionals, >> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >> blind > defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to > describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted > therein is indeed the defendant. >> >> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >> to > present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if > the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made > decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the > court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a > sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to > come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the photographs. >> >> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >> President >> National Federation of the Blind >> of South Carolina >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >> >>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>> pictorial > evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked > and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both > attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference > verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that > most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in > order to lay a proper foundation. >>> >>> >>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>> NFBI President >>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" > wrote: >>> >>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? 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Gender Choose Gender Male Female I decline to identify my race & ethnicity Ethnicity Hispanic or Latino Not Hispanic or Latino Race Select one or more values American Indian or Alaska Native Asian Black or African American Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander White Two or More Races Veteran Status Veteran Not a Veteran * required fields From b.s.spiry at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 20:10:24 2013 From: b.s.spiry at gmail.com (Bill Spiry) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:10:24 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] accessible and secure cloud based backup Message-ID: <002901ce80ce$2dc72fd0$89558f70$@gmail.com> Greetings, I'd appreciate any input from listers willing to share good or bad accessibility experiences with available online storage services. I use JAWS with Windows 7 and iOS with voice over for mobile work. I need a service for my firm that I can easily manage myself. I use Drop Box and Sky Drive for Mobil file work but those services really don't offer cost effective mass online storage. I've been testing Carbonite and Live Drive over the past couple of weeks. Live Drive has some accessibility holes that are problematic and Live Drive's storage centers are all overseas, not going there. Carbonite has some accessibility gaps on the desktop using Windows but the service seems to work, they are US based and it appears to have decent security. Could anyone offer experience with these or other services that have worked? Any input would be much appreciated. Bill Spiry, J.D. Spiry Law (541) 510-2623 Bill at SpiryLaw.com Bill.spiry at gmail.com This electronic mail message contains CONFIDENTIAL information which is (a) ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION, WORK PRODUCT, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. If you are not an Addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an Addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please reply to the sender and take the steps necessary to delete the message and any attachments completely from your computer system. From b.s.spiry at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 23:24:08 2013 From: b.s.spiry at gmail.com (Bill Spiry) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:24:08 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> Message-ID: <000001ce80e9$3e6b7c90$bb4275b0$@gmail.com> Detail proofing for form and format with JAWS is simply a beastly time eater. I've found that I can make it go a bit faster by laying out a pre proofing strategy, step by step, and then sticking with it. i.e. first check margins, 2nd check fonts, 3rd check spacing, ... 21st check italic commas, etc. then using word search or find and replace features, I can take care of a lot of picky stuff in big sweeps. This does require some care to ensure the search and replace is specific enough to avoid undesired changes. JAWS also has a nice feature which lets you proof the document for inconsistencies like font changes, spacing issues, etc. (try pressing control-winKey-I to walk through the inconsistencies in a doc). With all of that, I can usually get a document cleaned up to the point where a sighted assistant can focus on major visual proofing. Bottom line though is that I never ever send out a legal document to someone without having an eyes on review by someone else. Too risky. Besides that, the time it unavoidably takes me to proof with JAWS sure isn't a good use of my time at my hourly rate. Bill Spiry Attorney at Law (541) 510-2623 Bill at SpiryLaw.com Bill.spiry at gmail.com This electronic mail message contains CONFIDENTIAL information which is (a) ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION, WORK PRODUCT, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. If you are not an Addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an Addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please reply to the sender and take the steps necessary to delete the message and any attachments completely from your computer system. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:12 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blue Booking I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking Hello all, Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 07:45:21 2013 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:15:21 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: <000001ce80e9$3e6b7c90$bb4275b0$@gmail.com> References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> <000001ce80e9$3e6b7c90$bb4275b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AB75F7E-36B4-4E3F-A440-E313886CC8BF@gmail.com> Hi, Formatting has always been a huge issue for me as well. In fact, during my current internship, I am not being assigned certain tasks merely because they require complex formatting. It is something which directly exposes our weakness. It is undoubtably essential to impress your bosses during an internship in order to get a job. And this certainly doesn't help that cause in the least. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:54 AM, "Bill Spiry" wrote: > Detail proofing for form and format with JAWS is simply a beastly time > eater. I've found that I can make it go a bit faster by laying out a pre > proofing strategy, step by step, and then sticking with it. i.e. first check > margins, 2nd check fonts, 3rd check spacing, ... 21st check italic commas, > etc. then using word search or find and replace features, I can take care of > a lot of picky stuff in big sweeps. This does require some care to ensure > the search and replace is specific enough to avoid undesired changes. JAWS > also has a nice feature which lets you proof the document for > inconsistencies like font changes, spacing issues, etc. (try pressing > control-winKey-I to walk through the inconsistencies in a doc). > > With all of that, I can usually get a document cleaned up to the point where > a sighted assistant can focus on major visual proofing. > > Bottom line though is that I never ever send out a legal document to someone > without having an eyes on review by someone else. Too risky. Besides that, > the time it unavoidably takes me to proof with JAWS sure isn't a good use of > my time at my hourly rate. > > Bill Spiry > Attorney at Law > (541) 510-2623 > Bill at SpiryLaw.com > Bill.spiry at gmail.com > > This electronic mail message contains CONFIDENTIAL information which is (a) > ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION, WORK PRODUCT, PROPRIETARY IN > NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) intended only > for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. If you are not an Addressee, > or the person responsible for delivering this to an Addressee, you are > hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this message is > prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, > please reply to the sender and take the steps necessary to delete the > message and any attachments completely from your computer system. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:12 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blue Booking > > I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check > it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct > formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also > proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking > > Hello all, > > > > Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring > formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a > screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous > process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to > be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting > documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a > sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you > screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a > more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma > and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all > this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Webb > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 17:14:14 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:14:14 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court In-Reply-To: <011e01ce7e5e$cad07dd0$60717970$@sbcglobal.net> References: <009e01ce7e4b$c64460a0$52cd21e0$@sbcglobal.net> <021c01ce7e54$48a13480$d9e39d80$@labarrelaw.com> <011e01ce7e5e$cad07dd0$60717970$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: is there any authority on this point? On 7/11/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Scott: > > Regarding your thought: Now, on another note, although it is generally true > that the criminal defendant is the one with substantial rights during a > criminal process, I would not agree with the concept that the criminal > defendant is the only one with such rights. Both the state Court and the > prosecutor's office are Title II ADA and very likely Section 504 covered > entities. One could argue that prosecution of cases is a program or > activity of the state. Program and activities of the state are subject to > requests for accommodation. > Therefore, a blind criminal defense attorney arguably has some right to > request that the Court or the prosecutor provide some level of > accessibility. Of course, there is no clear boundry as to what specific > obligations the Court and the prosecutor have. > > In Texas, during a criminal trial, if circumstances arise necessitating a > blind lawyer's reasonable accommodation, it is not advisable to say, "I > object your Honor, as a violation of the ADA." You are likely to be > overruled, unless your client is an American with a disability. > > You had best say, "I object your Honor, as to deny me the opportunity to > fully review this exhibit prior to its admission is a violation of my > client's right to effective assistance of counsel, a fair trial and due > process," and then be specific as to your need for accommodation. > > And I hate to know how tough it might be in civil trials, because the right > to effective assistance of counsel applies only to criminal matters under > the Sixth Amendment. In a civil matter, I think one best couch their > objections in terms of their client's right to due process and equal > protection. > > I have been involved in dozens of criminal jury trials and the ADA > objection > isn't going to get you very far. I continue to contend that my rights to > reasonable accommodations during a criminal trial must be couched in direct > terms to my client's right to effective assistance of counsel, and not > pursuant to any right I think I might have under the ADA. > > Furthermore, when I was a prosecutor, judges constantly pushed me to "move > along counselor." At times I would object to needing more time and be > denied. And, from the State's side, this is not an issue that the State > can > appeal. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > LaBarre > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:33 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court > > Greetings, this has been a most interesting thread of emails. I certainly > agree with the concept that the primary responsibility rests on the blind > attorney in terms of making sure that he/she has methods in place to get > at > information presented visually. I am also sympathetic with the pressures > put on and lack of resources faced by solo practitioners just starting out. > I have run my own practice now for fifteen years and certainly have the > capacity to bring whatever assistance, human or otherwise, to a trial > setting. However, this was most definitely not the case when I first > hoisted my shingle. One resource that those just starting out should > consider is working with your VR program and getting some reader type > services as part of your original IPE or as ongoing post employment > services > from VR. I was able to secure such funding and it helped me out for the > first several months of practice. > > Now, on another note, although it is generally true that the criminal > defendant is the one with substantial rights during a criminal process, I > would not agree with the concept that the criminal defendant is the only > one > with such rights. Both the state Court and the prosecutor's office are > Title II ADA and very likely Section 504 covered entities. One could argue > that prosecution of cases is a program or activity of the state. Program > and activities of the state are subject to requests for accommodation. > Therefore, a blind criminal defense attorney arguably has some right to > request that the Court or the prosecutor provide some level of > accessibility. Of course, there is no clear boundry as to what specific > obligations the Court and the prosecutor have. Is it reasonable, for > example, to ask the Court or someone connected with the DA's office to > describe pictorial exhibits? Best practice would be to have someone > connected with the Court to do this because of the inherent bius of the > prosecutor etc. > > In the end, your primary obligation is to your client and your capacity to > represent her or him to the best of your ability. So, one should always > have a plan in place to get the information you need. > > Best, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:32 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consider an issue in court > > Hello Robert: > > I am glad to assist you at any time in any way I can. > > Regarding the trial setting and judges: the only person in a criminal trial > with any rights is the Defendant. Remember that trial is all about > preserving the record for appeal in the event your hero is found guilty, > which is about 95% of the time. Thus, get accustomed to the concept of > effective assistance of counsel (your client's right) and mention the > concept of reasonable accommodations only as they relate directly to > effective assistance of counsel. Otherwise, the judge could care less > about > the ADA and reasonable accommodations. > > Simply substitute reasonable accommodation with effective assistance. And, > to properly preserve error for appeal, you must make it clear on the record > what is occurring in the courtroom and be specific about how it is > depriving > your client of effective assistance, as well as being very specific about > what you are proposing to do to provide effective assistance. For the > record, your objections will always be denial of your client's right to > effective assistance, a fair trial, due process and so forth. Your > objection should never be your right to reasonable accommodations. > > And, regarding your prosecuting brothers at the bar; when you walk into a > courtroom and seat the venire for jury selection, the brother at the bar > disappears. While in trial, you are the enemy and they will run over you > with a quickness. In fact, they will pull every dirty trick in the book to > convict your client, including any advantage they might gain due to your > blindness. > > In Tarrant County, there are usually three prosecutors present at every > trial. Two are sitting at counsel table for the State and the other is > sitting on the bench. My guess is that this is true in Bexar County as > well. So, as a criminal defense attorney in a jury trial, understand that > you and your client are the only two people in that courtroom who have any > interest in a level playing field. > > Again, I am glad to assist at any time. > > Your true brother at the defense bar, > Dan McBride > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind law [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dittman, > Robert > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:02 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] is blindness ever consider an issue in court > > Hi Dan, > > Well, I filed my first trial setting so I will be calling you for guidance. > Only practicing on my own for two months and the fun is already starting. > > Let me make it clear that I completely agree with your points. The courts > owe me nothing except that they must be reasonable with the requirements of > the ADA and Rehab act of 1974. It does however owe my client all rights > they are entitled and so must allow me to practice the law in what ever > adaptive way that I do as long as my legal representation is comparable to > any cited attorney that may be representing that same client. > > I have been lucky in that the DA (some of them I went to school with and > are > ready and willing to extend the idea of brothers and sisters at the bar) > has > on occasion read to me the content of an arrest report or other material > located in the states file as long as it does not violate work product in > order that I may be on a level playing field. > > I completely understand this is not always the case, nor do I expect it to > be so, but it is helpful and appreciated as being a new solo practitioner I > cannot yet afford to hire a legal assistant. > > It is always good to hear from you, and I thank you for taking time to see > me at my office. > > Your brother at the bar. > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Daniel McBride wrote: > >> Robert: >> >> In all cases, civil and criminal, opposing counsel owes us nothing >> more as blind attorneys than they otherwise owe a sighted attorney. >> >> As of January 1, 2014, the recently amended discovery statute, Article >> 39.14 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, takes effect. Under this >> statute, the State is going to be obligated to very broad and >> significant requirements for discovery upon proper request by Defense >> Counsel. If requested, the State need do nothing more than provide >> same to Defense Counsel, blind or not. >> >> From that point, the central issue is that of the rights of the >> Citizen Accused; most particularly, the right not only to counsel, >> but, the right to Effective Assistance of counsel. As long as a blind >> attorney insists that his client receives Effective Assistance, the >> problem then becomes that of the Judge hearing the case. >> >> When I'm in trial, the Judge can give me all damned day to provide me >> opportunity to scrutinize any offered evidence, or the Judge can risk >> reversal for denying the Citizen Accused his right to Effective > Assistance. >> >> This right is not ours as blind attorneys, rather, the right is that >> of the Citizen Accused. >> >> This is probably not so in civil cases to the extent of criminal >> cases, but I cannot speak to the civil side definitively. >> >> The first time I had this problem during a jury trial, I was pretty >> much telling the Judge how the cow would chew the cabbage. After word >> got out in the courthouse, the State did all it could, in future >> trials with me, to pave this road prior to jury selection. A blind >> criminal defense attorney can cause the Court major headaches, >> regarding proper review of offered evidence and the time required to >> review it, in pursuing his client's right to Effective Assistance. >> That is to say that the Court owes me nothing due to being blind, but >> the Court sure as hell cannot deprive my criminally accused client of > effective assistance of counsel. >> >> Always good to hear from you my friend. >> >> Daniel McBride >> Fort Worth, Texas >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Dittman, Robert >> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:20 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Is blindness ever consitter an issue in court >> >> I agree with your point that the state most likely doesn't have to do >> anything to accommodate the defense attorney. However, my point was >> that in many cases if the attorney is collegial the district attorney >> or assistant district attorney will accommodate the defense attorney. >> Or, at least this is been my experience practicing in San Antonio >> Texas. I guess I have been lucky. V >> >> Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. >> Attorney and Counselor at Law >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 18:38, "Parnell Diggs" wrote: >> >>> Hello legal professionals, >>> The state probably doesn't have to do anything to accommodate the >>> blind >> defense attorney. The defense attorney needs to ask a cited person to >> describe the photos to him and determine whether the person depicted >> therein is indeed the defendant. >>> >>> At trial, I would suggest that the defense attorney asked the state >>> to >> present the photos to the defense counsel table just as they would if >> the defense attorney were sighted. On many occasions, I have made >> decisions about whether to object to photos I could not see, and the >> court often has overruled my objections, just as it would with a >> sighted attorney. In the meantime, the defense attorney may want to >> come up with an explanation as to why the defendant is depicted in the > photographs. >>> >>> Parnell Diggs, Esq. >>> President >>> National Federation of the Blind >>> of South Carolina >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, pattichang at att.net wrote: >>> >>>> I am blind and have served in Illinois on a jury. There was >>>> pictorial >> evidence. There were also diagrams of the location. The judge asked >> and I think this is appropriate for most situations that both >> attorneys verbally describe what they were pointing at and reference >> verbally anything that related to the evidence. I would also note that >> most states require a witness to describe what is in the pictures in >> order to lay a proper foundation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang >>>> NFBI President >>>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "RJ Sandefur" >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Smith is a blind defence aturney. He is defending Mike shafer >>>>> on murder 1 charges. The state has photos of the defendant at the >>>>> crime seen. What should the state do taking into consitteration the >>>>> defence lawyer is blind and is unable to see the pictures? RJ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40 >>>>> a >>>>> tt.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40scco >>>> a >>>> st.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stma >>> r >>> ytx.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmar >> ytx.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 16:14:24 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:14:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix says "no" to audio description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51E41FE0.4080704@gmail.com> Netflix says "no" to audio description. why? 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Date posted: 07-01-2013 -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 15 22:30:08 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Jobs] FW: [FWD: RE: Job Posting for a Staff Attorney at the CT Department of Rehabilitation Services] In-Reply-To: References: <20130715052610.8dca28979c994f4432a44505b8868950.d0b12bd5a3.wbe@email03.secureserver.net> Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:58 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: [FWD: RE: Job Posting for a Staff Attorney at the CT Department of Rehabilitation Services] From: llee at nfbct.org [mailto:llee at nfbct.org] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:26 AM To: NFB of CT list serve; CTABS List serv Cc: Maurer, Patricia Subject: [FWD: RE: Job Posting for a Staff Attorney at the CT Department of Rehabilitation Services] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Job Posting for a Staff Attorney at the CT Department of Rehabilitation Services From: "Sigman, Brian" > Date: Fri, July 12, 2013 1:12 pm Immediately below is a link to the newly posted job announcement for a Staff Attorney 2 at the Department of Rehabilitation Services. Staff Attorney 2 -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jul 16 17:30:23 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:30:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking In-Reply-To: <000001ce80e9$3e6b7c90$bb4275b0$@gmail.com> References: <004201ce7db1$9d613540$d8239fc0$@com> <000001ce80e9$3e6b7c90$bb4275b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Though I don't think it is unreasonable, my fantasy for proofreading to the extent that one can do it efficiently with JAWS, other than find of course, is to get a list of the specific JAWS keyboard commands that one can use. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill Spiry Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:24 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blue Booking Detail proofing for form and format with JAWS is simply a beastly time eater. I've found that I can make it go a bit faster by laying out a pre proofing strategy, step by step, and then sticking with it. i.e. first check margins, 2nd check fonts, 3rd check spacing, ... 21st check italic commas, etc. then using word search or find and replace features, I can take care of a lot of picky stuff in big sweeps. This does require some care to ensure the search and replace is specific enough to avoid undesired changes. JAWS also has a nice feature which lets you proof the document for inconsistencies like font changes, spacing issues, etc. (try pressing control-winKey-I to walk through the inconsistencies in a doc). With all of that, I can usually get a document cleaned up to the point where a sighted assistant can focus on major visual proofing. Bottom line though is that I never ever send out a legal document to someone without having an eyes on review by someone else. Too risky. Besides that, the time it unavoidably takes me to proof with JAWS sure isn't a good use of my time at my hourly rate. Bill Spiry Attorney at Law (541) 510-2623 Bill at SpiryLaw.com Bill.spiry at gmail.com This electronic mail message contains CONFIDENTIAL information which is (a) ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION, WORK PRODUCT, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. If you are not an Addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an Addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please reply to the sender and take the steps necessary to delete the message and any attachments completely from your computer system. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:12 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blue Booking I have the "luxury" of using extreme magnification to sort of double-check it myself, but I have also made sure that my secretary knows the correct formatting so that when doing the final prep for e-filing, she also proof-reads for me. It is just too painfully slow otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:08 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Blue Booking Hello all, Just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on blue booking (i.e., ensuring formatting and accuracy of legal citations, etc.) through the use of a screen reader? While doable, I find this to be a very slow and arduous process, and much like ensuring formatting of documents, it's hard for me to be sure that I've really caught everything. Also much like formatting documents, this is one area in which I think it's wise policy to have a sighted party perform a final review. But I just wondered if any of you screen-reader users had any suggestions for how to review citations in a more efficient manner. I find that having to ensure that every space, comma and period is in is proper place, that all fonts are correct, to check all this stuff by nonvisual means is just an extremely inefficient use of time. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew Webb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.s.spiry%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 16 18:07:47 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:07:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interesting case in Maine Message-ID: Recently there was a thread running on this list about having a disability in court and how it impacts lawyers with a disability doing their work. I have to say I agree with everything that was said on the list. Presently there is a case here in Maine through the Federal District court that seems to be another one of those cases where crooks will get into anything that may result in their receiving money, and that includes claiming to have a disability. The defendant in this article is being charged with Worker's Comp fraud (total disability claim) in addition to an impressive variety of other fraud related charges. Is it any wonder that lawyers on this list experience a skeptical judge, ALJ or hearings officer when we are trying to win a case for a client when it is directly related to them having a disability? I bring this up because here in Maine there is an underlying attitude that worker's comp or disability enhanced retirement payments are being viewed as "extra money" when someone is either laid off or forced into retirement. I make no judgement on whether or not this attitude is accurate, but I will say that I have noted what seems to be an increase in raised eyebrow skepticism when a disability is being brought fortharound the time of retirement or when someone is being forced out of their job. Whether you agree with me or not, I think you will find this article an interesting read from the standpoint of an attorney. By the way, for those of you with a criminal background, be it as a prosecutor or defense counsel, note that this case is being heard in Federal District Court and that the prosecutors are the U.S. Attorney. This is a case involving a town official who is charged with fraud and, at a lack for better words, coruption. Why would the U.S. Attorney's office prosucute it instead of the DA's office, the County attorney's office or the State Attorney General's office? I am a civil attorney, not a criminal attorney, so it is a lagit question borne of ignorance of the criminal field. http://www.kjonline.com/news/Price-gouging-alleged-in-Carole-Swan-trial.html Ross A. Doerr Esquire Admitted to practice in ME & NH View my Blog at: http://journeyblind.blogspot.com/ for posts about cell phones, adaptive technology and in seeking or keeping jobs - Enjoy! From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jul 16 21:40:01 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:40:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:31 PM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position From: hrintern3 [mailto:hrintern3 at aclu.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:17 PM To: Maurer, Patricia Subject: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position Please post the following vacant Paralegal position at American Civil Liberties Union. If additional information is required, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank You. Sincerely, American Civil Liberties Union Human Resources Department July 16, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY PARALEGAL [CLRP-20] AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Criminal Law Reform Project, NY For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Criminal Law Reform Project of the National office in New York City is seeking applicants for the full-time position of Paralegal. OVERVIEW The Criminal Law Reform Project seeks an end to excessively harsh crime policies that result in mass incarceration and stand in the way of a just and equal society. The Project focuses its work at the "front end" of the criminal justice system, from an individual's first contact with law enforcement through to the sentencing phase, with an emphasis on ending drug prohibition, which has failed to achieve public safety while putting unprecedented numbers of people behind bars and eroding constitutional rights. We fulfill our mission by litigating and conducting strategic and precedent-setting advocacy that promotes reform of the criminal justice system and drug laws in particular, reduces the number of people entering the system, and protects the constitutional rights of those in the system. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES * Prepare, file, review and organize litigation documents such as briefs, motions, declarations, deposition summaries, discovery requests and responses, and correspondence with co-counsel. * Maintain case files, attorneys' correspondence files, summary of the CLRP litigation docket, assist with managing and coordinate intake database; etc. * Provide litigation support to attorneys. * Collect, analyze, and organize legal, factual, social science and other non-legal research for use in litigation documents and policy presentations; run searches on internal and external document databases and systems, cull relevant information from a variety of resources such as newspapers, magazines, libraries, case documents and trade associations. * Prepare informational updates on criminal law reform issues for ACLU National and Affiliate staff and CLRP-related content on the ACLU website. * Act as liaison among various internal departments as well as with co-counsel and partner organizations. * Supervise the recruitment, hiring, training and work of Legal Administrative Assistants and interns; serve as liaison with Human Resources Department on staffing needs with fellows. * Handle special projects and other duties as assigned. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS * Bachelor's degree required. * A minimum of two years of paralegal or related experience is preferred. * Strong research skills, including internet research. * Must have outstanding written, verbal and interpersonal skills. * Ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Must be well organized, efficient, highly motivated, able to handle multiple tasks simultaneously and see them through to completion, work well under tight deadlines, and take initiative. * Strong computer skills with advanced knowledge and experience in Microsoft Office. * Experience creating tables of contents, tables of authorities, mail merges, and creating/inserting macros. * Basic knowledge of Westlaw is preferred. * Experience with web design, layout, and electronic posting of content is a plus. * Commitment to civil liberties, civil rights and public interest legal work is essential. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers compensation commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Interested persons should submit a cover letter (include salary requirements), resume, a non-fiction writing sample (sample will not be returned) and three (3) references by email to hrjobsCLRP at aclu.org - reference [CLRP-20/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Criminal Law Reform Project posting. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively applications can be mailed to: Criminal Law Reform Project RE: [CLRP-20/INCL] American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Applications will be accepted until position is filled. Please indicate in your cover letter where you found this job listing. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From david.b.andrews at state.mn.us Tue Jul 16 21:40:47 2013 From: david.b.andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED)) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:40:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CBA05A7F34B34439FA5DDAC7DF99E4A2BDC4A@055-CH1MPN1-001.055d.mgd.msft.net> From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:31 PM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position From: hrintern3 [mailto:hrintern3 at aclu.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:17 PM To: Maurer, Patricia Subject: Please Post/Forward: ACLU Paralegal [CLRP-20] Position Please post the following vacant Paralegal position at American Civil Liberties Union. If additional information is required, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank You. Sincerely, American Civil Liberties Union Human Resources Department July 16, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY PARALEGAL [CLRP-20] AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Criminal Law Reform Project, NY For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Criminal Law Reform Project of the National office in New York City is seeking applicants for the full-time position of Paralegal. OVERVIEW The Criminal Law Reform Project seeks an end to excessively harsh crime policies that result in mass incarceration and stand in the way of a just and equal society. The Project focuses its work at the "front end" of the criminal justice system, from an individual's first contact with law enforcement through to the sentencing phase, with an emphasis on ending drug prohibition, which has failed to achieve public safety while putting unprecedented numbers of people behind bars and eroding constitutional rights. We fulfill our mission by litigating and conducting strategic and precedent-setting advocacy that promotes reform of the criminal justice system and drug laws in particular, reduces the number of people entering the system, and protects the constitutional rights of those in the system. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES * Prepare, file, review and organize litigation documents such as briefs, motions, declarations, deposition summaries, discovery requests and responses, and correspondence with co-counsel. * Maintain case files, attorneys' correspondence files, summary of the CLRP litigation docket, assist with managing and coordinate intake database; etc. * Provide litigation support to attorneys. * Collect, analyze, and organize legal, factual, social science and other non-legal research for use in litigation documents and policy presentations; run searches on internal and external document databases and systems, cull relevant information from a variety of resources such as newspapers, magazines, libraries, case documents and trade associations. * Prepare informational updates on criminal law reform issues for ACLU National and Affiliate staff and CLRP-related content on the ACLU website. * Act as liaison among various internal departments as well as with co-counsel and partner organizations. * Supervise the recruitment, hiring, training and work of Legal Administrative Assistants and interns; serve as liaison with Human Resources Department on staffing needs with fellows. * Handle special projects and other duties as assigned. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS * Bachelor's degree required. * A minimum of two years of paralegal or related experience is preferred. * Strong research skills, including internet research. * Must have outstanding written, verbal and interpersonal skills. * Ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Must be well organized, efficient, highly motivated, able to handle multiple tasks simultaneously and see them through to completion, work well under tight deadlines, and take initiative. * Strong computer skills with advanced knowledge and experience in Microsoft Office. * Experience creating tables of contents, tables of authorities, mail merges, and creating/inserting macros. * Basic knowledge of Westlaw is preferred. * Experience with web design, layout, and electronic posting of content is a plus. * Commitment to civil liberties, civil rights and public interest legal work is essential. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers compensation commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Interested persons should submit a cover letter (include salary requirements), resume, a non-fiction writing sample (sample will not be returned) and three (3) references by email to hrjobsCLRP at aclu.org - reference [CLRP-20/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Criminal Law Reform Project posting. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively applications can be mailed to: Criminal Law Reform Project RE: [CLRP-20/INCL] American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Applications will be accepted until position is filled. Please indicate in your cover letter where you found this job listing. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/david.b.andrews%40state.mn.us From zmayfarth23 at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 13:41:31 2013 From: zmayfarth23 at gmail.com (Zachariah M) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:41:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal Message-ID: Hello All, I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. Respectfully, Zachariah Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 14:22:05 2013 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:22:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal References: Message-ID: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> It's your vocational goal and not hers! If you want to be an atturney, you persue your dreams! I was told that V.R wouldn't assist me in going to Seminary in order to become a pastor, and so I didn't listen to what VR said and I did it anyway. In your situation, they are required to assist you in any way they can. RJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachariah M" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:41 AM Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > Hello All, > > I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR > Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for > employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? > I > am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services > for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my > counselor > with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with > an > occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of > getting into and finishing law school. > > Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. > > Respectfully, > > Zachariah > > Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com From tmeloy at fuse.net Wed Jul 17 14:32:46 2013 From: tmeloy at fuse.net (Timothy J. Meloy) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:32:46 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> References: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: Hi Zach, I also put lawyers as my career goal and it is precisely that language that allowed me to secure assistance for law school from the Bureau of services for the visually impaired in my state. If you want to be an attorney I would insist on that language in your plan. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Best regards TJ On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "RJ Sandefur" wrote: > It's your vocational goal and not hers! If you want to be an atturney, you persue your dreams! I was told that V.R wouldn't assist me in going to Seminary in order to become a pastor, and so I didn't listen to what VR said and I did it anyway. In your situation, they are required to assist you in any way they can. RJ > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachariah M" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:41 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > > >> Hello All, >> >> I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR >> Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for >> employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I >> am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services >> for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor >> with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an >> occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of >> getting into and finishing law school. >> >> Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Zachariah >> >> Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tmeloy%40fuse.net From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 17 16:30:15 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:30:15 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> References: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: Speaking as an attorney who has "been there and done that" I'd have to suggest that you fire her and get a new counselor. This list is repleat with successful lawyers who are either blind or visually impaired. I am left speechless that a VR counselor would advise you in the manner that you say she did. There are just no words. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:22 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal It's your vocational goal and not hers! If you want to be an atturney, you persue your dreams! I was told that V.R wouldn't assist me in going to Seminary in order to become a pastor, and so I didn't listen to what VR said and I did it anyway. In your situation, they are required to assist you in any way they can. RJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachariah M" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:41 AM Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > Hello All, > > I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my > VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan > for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? > I > am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State > Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, > but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get > my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the > extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. > > Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. > > Respectfully, > > Zachariah > > Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksande > fur%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3204/5998 - Release Date: 07/17/13 From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 16:41:10 2013 From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:41:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal References: <000701ce82f9$03d0db90$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> Message-ID: <000301ce830c$7223d440$0302a8c0@hometwxakonvzn> She's affraid that if you attend law school, that either you're not going to be able to deal with the preasures that come with being a law stuident, or you will start telling her what your rights are. Please do us a favior! Go to law school, and prove her wrong! RJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Doerr" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > Speaking as an attorney who has "been there and done that" I'd have to > suggest that you fire her and get a new counselor. > This list is repleat with successful lawyers who are either blind or > visually impaired. > I am left speechless that a VR counselor would advise you in the manner > that > you say she did. > There are just no words. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ > Sandefur > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:22 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > > It's your vocational goal and not hers! If you want to be an atturney, you > persue your dreams! I was told that V.R wouldn't assist me in going to > Seminary in order to become a pastor, and so I didn't listen to what VR > said > and I did it anyway. In your situation, they are required to assist you in > any way they can. RJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zachariah M" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:41 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal > > >> Hello All, >> >> I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my >> VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan >> for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or > "paralegal"? >> I >> am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State >> Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, >> but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get >> my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the >> extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. >> >> Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Zachariah >> >> Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksande >> fur%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c > om > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3204/5998 - Release Date: 07/17/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com From law at cordovaesq.com Wed Jul 17 16:52:02 2013 From: law at cordovaesq.com (Marina Cordova) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:52:02 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006001ce830d$f6e72500$e4b56f00$@com> Zachariah, You can check out the book "Americas Greatest Places to work with a law degree" by Kimm Alayne Walton, JD; and "Guerilla Tactics for Getting the Legal Job of Your Dreams" by the same author. Both list alternative jobs you can obtain with a JD. Perhaps your counselor is unaware of the number of blind attorneys, including myself, that have had "attorney" on their plan. In addition, on the one hand she wants other career goals with a JD but worries about extended time to obtain the same degree? Plus the other risk of not having Attorney as your goal, is your counselor needs to plan ahead for the state helping you with the costs of the bar exam and after your JD. The feds provide funds to states to assist consumers with obtaining "employment" not just a degree. I would suggest calling my state director of the New Mexico Commission for the Blind Greg Trapp. He is a blind attorney. And understands what should be in your plan and what the state is required to provide, whether they want to or not. Commission number is 505-841-8844. And see there's two other job goals: author and director of a state agency. Sincerely, Marina A. Cordova Attorney at Law 1000 Cordova Place, # 234 Santa Fe, NM 87505 Office (505) 467-8395 Fax (505) 467-8746 PLEASE NOTE MY CHANGE OF EMAIL ADDRESS TO: law at cordovaesq.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC Section 2510-2521, and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, copying, forwarding or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium, please so advise the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Zachariah M Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:42 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal Hello All, I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. Respectfully, Zachariah Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/law%40cordovaesq.com From amatney at hf-law.com Wed Jul 17 16:53:18 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:53:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225409111@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> As a former VR counselor who then applied for and received VR services with an employment goal of "attorney," I have to agree with what others have said. There is no reason why "attorney" is not an appropriate vocational goal. If you chose an alternate goal that requires a J.D. ("paralegal" does not, BTW), you'd still have the same time commitments involved in getting into and attending law school, so I don't see the purpose in choosing an alternate goal. If you are hoping to list more potential occupations on your IPE in addition to attorney, maybe you can find some inspiration from this list of "J..D.-preferred" jobs that came up when I did a quick google search. http://www.indeed.com/q-JD-Preferred-jobs.html Good luck, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Zachariah M Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:42 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal Hello All, I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. Respectfully, Zachariah Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Wed Jul 17 17:22:57 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:22:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225409111@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225409111@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <469B1490383148EEB438C0A5D1EAF5CB@Workstation> The VR counselor might not even know the admission requirements for law school and the licensing requirements for becoming an attorney. I always advise prospective law students to do their homework and educate the counselor of their career goals. Don't let them make that decision for you just because you are blind. You need to say that I want to become an attorney, this is how it's done, these are the services and funding I will need, and this is how long it will take, and these are the jobs I will be doing at the end of the process. That's all you need for an IEP. VR counselors cannot make that decision for you. Rod -----Original Message----- From: Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:53 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal As a former VR counselor who then applied for and received VR services with an employment goal of "attorney," I have to agree with what others have said. There is no reason why "attorney" is not an appropriate vocational goal. If you chose an alternate goal that requires a J.D. ("paralegal" does not, BTW), you'd still have the same time commitments involved in getting into and attending law school, so I don't see the purpose in choosing an alternate goal. If you are hoping to list more potential occupations on your IPE in addition to attorney, maybe you can find some inspiration from this list of "J..D.-preferred" jobs that came up when I did a quick google search. http://www.indeed.com/q-JD-Preferred-jobs.html Good luck, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Zachariah M Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:42 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal Hello All, I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of getting into and finishing law school. Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. Respectfully, Zachariah Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 18 01:59:23 2013 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:59:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I find this hard to believe -- might there be other circumstances? Also, while it just my opinion, I am not wild about your signature line, using a smartphone isnb't an excuse for bad grammar or spelling. Dave At 08:41 AM 7/17/2013, you wrote: >Hello All, > >I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR >Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for >employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I >am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services >for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor >with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an >occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of >getting into and finishing law school. > >Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. > >Respectfully, > >Zachariah > >Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dandrews%40visi.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 18 14:19:16 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:16 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <039601ce83c1$c9629150$5c27b3f0$@labarrelaw.com> A state VR agency cannot confine a person to a career goal which requires only a four year degree or less. If you have the capacity, aptitude, interest, etc to become an attorney that can be your vocational goal and if they deny it, you can appeal that denial with, in my opinion, a good chance of succeeding. I graduated from law school twenty years ago as a client of the Minnesota agency. State Services gave me assistance from high school on through my graduation with a J.D. Perhaps, your counselor is a bit misinformed. If you wish to become a lawyer, state that as your vocational goal and don't back down from it. Regards, Scott -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:59 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] State VR Occupational Goal I find this hard to believe -- might there be other circumstances? Also, while it just my opinion, I am not wild about your signature line, using a smartphone isnb't an excuse for bad grammar or spelling. Dave At 08:41 AM 7/17/2013, you wrote: >Hello All, > >I wanted to ask for your advice regarding a question posed to me by my VR >Counselor. What occupation(s) could i list on my Individual Plan for >employment (IPE) that require a JD but aren't "attorney" or "paralegal"? I >am a partially sighted Minnesota resident registered with State Services >for the Blind(SSB), and would like to become an attorney, but my counselor >with SSB doesn't feel that she would be able to get my IPE approved with an >occupational goal of "attorney" due to the extended time commitment of >getting into and finishing law school. > >Thank you all for your time and attention in this important matter. > >Respectfully, > >Zachariah > >Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse brevity, spelling and grammar. >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dandrews%40visi.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw. com From wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 15:57:12 2013 From: wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com (keri) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:57:12 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: Greetings, I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing issues and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options are. thanks, keri "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." --Robert Sexton "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." --Ivan Panin Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Thu Jul 18 16:58:25 2013 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:58:25 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City In-Reply-To: References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: For consultation on housing issue, you can look for the local "landlord tenant union". This would help with rental issues, etc. If the issue is more complicated, you may find help, particularly if there is low income involved, through a legal clinic at a local law school, such as through NYU Law, or other New York related legal clinic. If this isn't enough, it is likely that your county bar association would have a referral service, and in many instances you can get some time, perhaps a half an hour of legal consultation without charge or with minimal fees involved. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of keri Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:57 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City Greetings, I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing issues and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options are. thanks, keri "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." --Robert Sexton "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." --Ivan Panin Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bennett.prows%40hhs.gov From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 17:11:05 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:11:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City In-Reply-To: References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: what borough aare you in? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:57, "keri" wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing issues and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options are. > > thanks, > keri > > "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." > --Robert Sexton > > "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." > --Ivan Panin > > Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. > > "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 17:21:41 2013 From: wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com (keri) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: <0FDBA640A9C14158A94454308001105A@klhurstl1> I'm in Brooklyn. keri "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." --Robert Sexton "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." --Ivan Panin Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sybren Hoekstra" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City > what borough aare you in? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:57, "keri" wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm >> looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing issues >> and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options >> are. >> >> thanks, >> keri >> >> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want >> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will >> speak my heart." >> --Robert Sexton >> >> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth >> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart >> somewhere to receive it." >> --Ivan Panin >> >> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put >> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. >> >> "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all >> expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." >> Michael Robotham >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gmail.com From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 18:44:49 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:44:49 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> My name is Robert Kingett. like millions of Americans with vision or hearing impairments I love going to the movies. However, finding a cinema that offers movies with captioning or video description is not easy and many of my friends with vision impairments have simply stopped going to see a movie in a movie theater. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) recently introduced two bills that will expand access to captioning and image narration in movie theaters and allow people with visual or hearing impairments to enjoy the movies we all love to watch. The Captioning and Image Narration to Enhance Movie Accessibility (CINEMA) Act would require movie theater complexes of two or more screens to make captioning and video description available for ALL films at ALL showings. With the help of this petition we can help push through legislation that will force the studios and cinema operators to provide the necessary technology so that everyone can enjoy the cinema experience. The link is http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Help_to_legislate_audio_description_and_captioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairmentss_1/?cTSTleb From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Jul 18 22:58:20 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:58:20 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Civil litigation attorney position Disability Rights Washington Message-ID: From: Jodi Rose [mailto:jodir at dr-wa.org] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:33 PM To: Nightingale, Noel; stuarpix at microsoft.com Subject: WADA - Job Posting Hello, We are currently hiring for a civil litigation attorney please feel free to share this information with your members. Please let me know if you have any questions. http://www.disabilityrightswa.org/drw-hiring-civil-litigation-attorney Thank you, Jodi Rose, Executive Assistant Disability Rights Washington www.disabilityrightswa.org | jodir at dr-wa.org 315 Fifth Avenue South, Suite 850 Seattle, WA 98104 p: 206. 324.1521 | 800.562.2702 tty: 206.957.0728 | 800.905.0209 f: 206.957.0729 From rumpole at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 19 12:59:52 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:59:52 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] "Second chance for disabled" article Message-ID: I read this N.Y. Times article online and felt that those on this list who are engaged in international law may like to read it. I read it with dismay, and I'm just a lowly Disability Rights Attorney here in the U.S. - ** A Second Chance for the World's Disabled By THE EDITORIAL BOARD N.Y. Times To read the below article online, go to: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opinion/a-second-chance-for-the-worlds-dis abled.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 ** There was a painful moment on Capitol Hill in December when former Senator Bob Dole, seated in a wheelchair, was greeted warmly by old Republican colleagues but then rebuffed by some of those very same members after he had urged Senate ratification of a United Nations treaty defending the rights of people with disabilities. The treaty drew a 61-to-38 vote that fell five votes short of the needed two-thirds majority after skittish Republicans bought into a nonsensical attack by right-wing critics that it would undermine national sovereignty. Senator Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat and the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is now negotiating with the ranking committee Republican, Bob Corker of Tennessee, to arrange another vote. Should Mr. Corker agree, it is essential that Senate Democrats vote as one to approve the treaty and that Republicans rise above the hackneyed politicking that undermined the vote last year. With the social-issue pandering of the 2012 campaign behind us, the treaty can be seen for what it is: a singular opportunity to apply the principles of the highly effective Americans With Disabilities Act to the world at large. Signed by President Obama in 2009, the treaty has been ratified by 132 countries. Contrary to critics, national sovereignty is in no way compromised in the treaty's declaration that all people, regardless of ability, deserve to live in dignity, safety and equality under the law. Nor would any recommendations approved by member nations be binding on the federal or state governments. The whole point of the treaty is to encourage other nations to match the standards set by the United States in the Americans With Disabilities Act, approved by a bipartisan majority in 1990 and signed by President George H.W. Bush. It would be ludicrous if the nation that has been in the forefront of upholding the rights of the disabled rejected a global treaty affirming those rights. Observation from Ross Doerr: "Americans always try to do the right thing -- after they've tried everything else." - - - Winston Churchill From anastoff at pio.carrollu.edu Fri Jul 19 23:06:41 2013 From: anastoff at pio.carrollu.edu (Allison Nastoff) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:06:41 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Question about LSAT accommodations Message-ID: Hello, I am a new member to this list. I have thought about studying law for the past few years because I think it is a profession I would enjoy and do well in. I have put off registering for the LSAT after reading about some nightmarish experiences other blind people have had when requesting accommodations, but since I have been a college grad for over a year now and still haven't found a job with my current education (bachelor of science in communication), I decided Wednesday that I am ready to be brave and face the LSAC. On that note, I have a few questions as I prepare my request for accommodations. 1. For those who have taken the test in Braille, how did you mark your answers? The last standardized test I took (the ACT in high school, I put little dot stickers next to the letter of my choice in the book and then went back through and read the answers to my proctor who transcribed them on to the print answer sheet. Does the Braille LSAT take in to account the need to be able to mark answers, not just read the test, or do I have to come up with my own system for marking answers and list that as a separate accommodation? 2. The accommodations I am planning to request are a Braille test, extra time, a computer equipped with JAWS and a printer for the writing and diagrams, and a separate room so these accommodations don't disrupt others. Are there any other accommodations I should consider requesting that I may not have thought of? Thank you so much in advance to anyone who can help me. Allison Nastoff From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 19 23:08:15 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:08:15 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [NELA Open Forum]: Update on Federal Rules & Invitation For Organizations To Briefing Message-ID: <005401ce84d4$dc95a190$95c0e4b0$@labarrelaw.com> FYI In my view, the proposed amendments to the federal rules will be harmful to plaintiffs attempting to secure their civil rights. Please participate in the below described process as you think appropriate. Regards, Scott From: Rebecca Cappy [mailto:noreply at egroups.nela.org] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:44 PM To: Scott LaBarre Subject: [NELA Open Forum]: Update on Federal Rules & Invitation For Organizations To Briefing National Employment Lawyer NELA | Discussions | All Discussions | Open Forum Update on Federal Rules & Invitation For Organizations To Briefing From: Rebecca Cappy To: Open Forum Posted: July 18, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: Update on Federal Rules & Invitation For Organizations To Briefing Message: View Profile Add Contact Blog This Contact Author This message has been cross posted to the following Discussions: Federal Rules Task Force and Open Forum . ------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I write to provide you with an update on where things stand with the federal rules proposals and what members can do. Much of the information below will be familiar to those of you who attending the Annual Convention last month, but we want to be sure everyone has the relevant information. Following the unanimous Advisory Committee recommendation that the Duke Subcommittee's proposed discovery rule amendments package be approved for publication, the Standing Committee voted to adopt the Advisory Committee's recommendation at its meeting in early June. You can find the full text of recommendation in the Standing Committee's June 2013 agenda book at pages 59-88. As we mentioned previously, the proposed amendments will now be published for public comment. The public comment period is expected to open on August 15, 2013. We anticipate that the comment period will remain open for six months (i.e., until February 15, 2014). Public hearings will be held during this public comment period. Three hearings will be held around the country, including one Washington, DC on November 7, 2013; a second in Phoenix in early January 2014; and a third likely to occur in early December. Ideally, members should aim to submit their comments by October 1, 2013 in advance of the first hearing. We are in the process of preparing new templates/outlines for comments for submission by members and should have those available in early August. NELA needs our members, Affiliates, and coalition partners to submit comments during the public comment period, whether or not they have done so previously. We also need you to reach out to your friends on the bench and in academia who would be similarly concerned about these proposals to encourage them to oppose these changes as well. You should only reach out to those with whom you have a close relationship. It is imperative that the Standing Committee hear from those who oppose these proposed amendments throughout the comment period and at each of the hearings. Please feel free to call (415-296-7629, ext. 103) or email (rcappy at nelahq.org) me with any questions you may have. Finally, we have been doing outreach to other organizations that might be interested in opposing these changes and toward that end have set up a briefing in Washington, DC. For those of you who work with or for a public interest or advocacy organization, we invite you to join us on July 29, 2013 at 4:00 p.m. (Eastern) for a discussion of how organizations can get involved in fighting back against the proposed changes to the federal rules. Please RSVP to Kellye McIntosh at kmcintosh at afj.org. Obstacles to Justice: An Urgent Discussion of Proposed Changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and How You Can Help Fight Back Join Alliance for Justice and the National Employment Lawyers Association for a briefing to discuss proposed changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and to learn about the impact of these potential changes on the work of civil rights, environmental, consumer, workplace and many other organizations and communities. What: Obstacles to Justice: An Urgent Discussion of the Impact of Proposed Changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and How You Can Help Fight Back When: Monday, July 29 at 4:00 p.m. (Eastern) Where: Alliance for Justice, 11 Dupont Circle NW, 2nd Floor, Washington, DC 20036 Who Should Attend: Policy advocates and attorneys whose organizations work to ensure access to justice or rely on litigation either to accomplish their mission specifically, or to gain access to and use critical information for policy and advocacy work. RSVP to Kellye McIntosh at kmcintosh at afj.org. (Call-in information available upon request.) Speakers: Pamela Gilbert, Partner, Cuneo Gilbert & LaDuca, LLP Elisabeth M. Stein, Federal Relations Counsel, American Association for Justice (AAJ) Julie M. Strandlie, Legislative & Public Policy Director, National Employment Lawyers Association (NELA) Moderator: Michelle D. Schwartz, Director of Justice Programs, Alliance for Justice Background: Many organizations rely on litigation to accomplish important objectives whether or not they ever go to court themselves. All policy and advocacy organizations should be concerned about proposed changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which could not only make litigation even more difficult than it already is, but also greatly restrict what information becomes public about wrongdoing. On August 15, 2013, a six-month public comment period will open on the proposed rule changes. These proposals will restrict discovery in all civil cases, including civil rights, environmental, consumer and workplace disputes. The proposed changes will create more obstacles for plaintiffs by preventing them from uncovering core facts. Especially in cases where information is in the hands of the wrongdoer, victims may be unable to build the evidence needed to prove key elements of their claims. And even if your organization does not litigate, this means that you - and the public - may never learn about violations or wrongdoing. The proposals, ostensibly meant to cut costs in civil cases, will have the opposite effect by increasing the time spent sorting out disputes that are resolved with the current rules. There are ways to fight back. Please join us for a briefing to learn more about the implications of these proposals and how you can help. 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I took the test with a reader and though I was sure I'd mastered all the variants in practice, having him sit there patiently waiting while I just sat there thinking and trying to juggle wardrobe items, or runners names on a track all starting with different letters, or whatever it was, proved quite a bit more stressful in the moment. With accommodations you're comfortable with though, the test should be no trouble at all. Best of luck, Aser Tolentino Sent from my iPad On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Allison Nastoff wrote: > Hello, > I am a new member to this list. I have thought about studying law for > the past few years because I think it is a profession I would enjoy > and do well in. I have put off registering for the LSAT after reading > about some nightmarish experiences other blind people have had when > requesting accommodations, but since I have been a college grad for > over a year now and still haven't found a job with my current > education (bachelor of science in communication), I decided Wednesday > that I am ready to be brave and face the LSAC. > On that note, I have a few questions as I prepare my request for accommodations. > 1. For those who have taken the test in Braille, how did you mark your > answers? The last standardized test I took (the ACT in high school, I > put little dot stickers next to the letter of my choice in the book > and then went back through and read the answers to my proctor who > transcribed them on to the print answer sheet. Does the Braille LSAT > take in to account the need to be able to mark answers, not just read > the test, or do I have to come up with my own system for marking > answers and list that as a separate accommodation? > 2. The accommodations I am planning to request are a Braille test, > extra time, a computer equipped with JAWS and a printer for the > writing and diagrams, and a separate room so these accommodations > don't disrupt others. Are there any other accommodations I should > consider requesting that I may not have thought of? > Thank you so much in advance to anyone who can help me. > Allison Nastoff > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Jul 20 15:29:00 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:29:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest Message-ID: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> The link below is for an article about smart phone plans, and it raises a fascinating legal issue. To be fair, it is an issue that is not exclusively a blindness or low vision issue. For that very reason an opportunity to change it may be a better one than if it was presented as strictly a "blind" issue. As you listen to it, note two interesting things - first, on a regular cell phone plan that you sign up for two years with, the cost of the smart phone you didn't pay "up front" is a part of you monthly bill. So, if that is so, as the two interviewers say, why doesn't that "cell phone payment" part of your monthly bill get dropped after the phone is paid off? Second, you can rent a smart phone and pay for it until you want what they bill as a "free" upgrade to a newer phone. As the interviewer points out, aren't you paying for the same phone twice? So, for those of you who are contracts or transactional attorneys - is that legal? How can they charge all of us out here twice for the same thing? I will openly confess my lack of legal expertise on such an issue, my practice focus is on disability specific laws and regulations, so I would like to know what others have to say on the matter. By the way, if you have a "dumb phone" like I do, isn't it handled the same way? Did I pay for my motorola twice? WBUR radio article New Smartphone Upgrade Plans Can Be Costly In The Long Run http://www.wbur.org/npr/203683450/new-smartphone-upgrade-plans-can-be-costly -in-the-long-run When you get the WBUR website up, scroll down to the "play" button that should appear directly under the author of the article and click on it. Interesting, isn't it. Ross A. Doerr Esq. Visit my blog at: http://journeyblind.blogspot.com/ From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 20 16:20:22 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:20:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest In-Reply-To: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> References: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> Message-ID: <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> Ross: Just wanted to fuss about an aspect of smart phones that really ticks me off. In May of 2012, I purchased an I Phone 4S. I got a 60% discount for signing a 2 year contract with the vendor, AT&&T. My monthly bill for the unlimited access service is $100.84. Back in February, I did the math and figured out that I would save money if I breached my 2 year deal, paid the liquidated sum of $200 agreed to and started the same unlimited access service with Sprint for $50 per month. There was but one problem. When I inquired with my local Sprint vendor, I was advised that the very expensive I Phone that I purchased wasn't really mine. That is, my very expensive I Phone can be activated, and utilized, through AT&T alone. So, the phone I thought I purchased, and was dumb enough to believe that I owned, is actually the property of AT&T and I am merely leasing same for 2 years. After the 2 year contract expires, I either renew my lease with AT&T, or the very expensive I Phone is worthless as, even after fulfilling my contract, I cannot have any competitor activate their service on what I thought was my phone. Now, what really ticked me off about this is that this was not disclosed to me by the AT&T sales person when I made the purchase. I understand that I am educated, that I am my own best advocate and that I should have thought to ask about this issue. However, it never occurred to me that the transaction was a lease and not an owner purchase. I believe it to be deceptive and that this should be the obligation of the lessor to disclose pursuant to principles of truth in advertising, as this was an advertised program. Furthermore, I have a niece that manages a T Mobil store and I called her about this issue. She advised that the circumstances described above are the usual practice across the board with all smart phone service providers. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of useless knowledge. Dan McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:29 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest The link below is for an article about smart phone plans, and it raises a fascinating legal issue. To be fair, it is an issue that is not exclusively a blindness or low vision issue. For that very reason an opportunity to change it may be a better one than if it was presented as strictly a "blind" issue. As you listen to it, note two interesting things - first, on a regular cell phone plan that you sign up for two years with, the cost of the smart phone you didn't pay "up front" is a part of you monthly bill. So, if that is so, as the two interviewers say, why doesn't that "cell phone payment" part of your monthly bill get dropped after the phone is paid off? Second, you can rent a smart phone and pay for it until you want what they bill as a "free" upgrade to a newer phone. As the interviewer points out, aren't you paying for the same phone twice? So, for those of you who are contracts or transactional attorneys - is that legal? How can they charge all of us out here twice for the same thing? I will openly confess my lack of legal expertise on such an issue, my practice focus is on disability specific laws and regulations, so I would like to know what others have to say on the matter. By the way, if you have a "dumb phone" like I do, isn't it handled the same way? Did I pay for my motorola twice? WBUR radio article New Smartphone Upgrade Plans Can Be Costly In The Long Run http://www.wbur.org/npr/203683450/new-smartphone-upgrade-plans-can-be-costly -in-the-long-run When you get the WBUR website up, scroll down to the "play" button that should appear directly under the author of the article and click on it. Interesting, isn't it. Ross A. Doerr Esq. Visit my blog at: http://journeyblind.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Sat Jul 20 17:36:19 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:36:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest In-Reply-To: <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> References: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000901ce856f$a52d5a40$ef880ec0$@com> Find someone that knows how to "jailbrake" the phone. That might work. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:20 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest Ross: Just wanted to fuss about an aspect of smart phones that really ticks me off. In May of 2012, I purchased an I Phone 4S. I got a 60% discount for signing a 2 year contract with the vendor, AT&&T. My monthly bill for the unlimited access service is $100.84. Back in February, I did the math and figured out that I would save money if I breached my 2 year deal, paid the liquidated sum of $200 agreed to and started the same unlimited access service with Sprint for $50 per month. There was but one problem. When I inquired with my local Sprint vendor, I was advised that the very expensive I Phone that I purchased wasn't really mine. That is, my very expensive I Phone can be activated, and utilized, through AT&T alone. So, the phone I thought I purchased, and was dumb enough to believe that I owned, is actually the property of AT&T and I am merely leasing same for 2 years. After the 2 year contract expires, I either renew my lease with AT&T, or the very expensive I Phone is worthless as, even after fulfilling my contract, I cannot have any competitor activate their service on what I thought was my phone. Now, what really ticked me off about this is that this was not disclosed to me by the AT&T sales person when I made the purchase. I understand that I am educated, that I am my own best advocate and that I should have thought to ask about this issue. However, it never occurred to me that the transaction was a lease and not an owner purchase. I believe it to be deceptive and that this should be the obligation of the lessor to disclose pursuant to principles of truth in advertising, as this was an advertised program. Furthermore, I have a niece that manages a T Mobil store and I called her about this issue. She advised that the circumstances described above are the usual practice across the board with all smart phone service providers. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of useless knowledge. Dan McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:29 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest The link below is for an article about smart phone plans, and it raises a fascinating legal issue. To be fair, it is an issue that is not exclusively a blindness or low vision issue. For that very reason an opportunity to change it may be a better one than if it was presented as strictly a "blind" issue. As you listen to it, note two interesting things - first, on a regular cell phone plan that you sign up for two years with, the cost of the smart phone you didn't pay "up front" is a part of you monthly bill. So, if that is so, as the two interviewers say, why doesn't that "cell phone payment" part of your monthly bill get dropped after the phone is paid off? Second, you can rent a smart phone and pay for it until you want what they bill as a "free" upgrade to a newer phone. As the interviewer points out, aren't you paying for the same phone twice? So, for those of you who are contracts or transactional attorneys - is that legal? How can they charge all of us out here twice for the same thing? I will openly confess my lack of legal expertise on such an issue, my practice focus is on disability specific laws and regulations, so I would like to know what others have to say on the matter. By the way, if you have a "dumb phone" like I do, isn't it handled the same way? Did I pay for my motorola twice? WBUR radio article New Smartphone Upgrade Plans Can Be Costly In The Long Run http://www.wbur.org/npr/203683450/new-smartphone-upgrade-plans-can-be-costly -in-the-long-run When you get the WBUR website up, scroll down to the "play" button that should appear directly under the author of the article and click on it. Interesting, isn't it. Ross A. Doerr Esq. Visit my blog at: http://journeyblind.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Sat Jul 20 18:38:36 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:38:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas In-Reply-To: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> References: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002f01ce8578$58d31000$0a793000$@verizon.net> As you may know, there are several petitions on the site. In the limited time I have, I couldn't find the one you referenced, thus didn't sign it. My passion is with you- so far, my pen is not. Cathryn Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The weird writer Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:45 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas My name is Robert Kingett. like millions of Americans with vision or hearing impairments I love going to the movies. However, finding a cinema that offers movies with captioning or video description is not easy and many of my friends with vision impairments have simply stopped going to see a movie in a movie theater. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) recently introduced two bills that will expand access to captioning and image narration in movie theaters and allow people with visual or hearing impairments to enjoy the movies we all love to watch. The Captioning and Image Narration to Enhance Movie Accessibility (CINEMA) Act would require movie theater complexes of two or more screens to make captioning and video description available for ALL films at ALL showings. With the help of this petition we can help push through legislation that will force the studios and cinema operators to provide the necessary technology so that everyone can enjoy the cinema experience. The link is http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Help_to_legislate_audio_description_and_cap tioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairmentss _1/?cTSTleb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6493 - Release Date: 07/15/13 From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Sat Jul 20 19:04:43 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:04:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas In-Reply-To: <002f01ce8578$58d31000$0a793000$@verizon.net> References: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> <002f01ce8578$58d31000$0a793000$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <001001ce857b$fece07f0$fc6a17d0$@com> This is already happening without legislation. If you look on a website that sells movy tickets in your area, the schedule will usually indicate whether the theatre offers headsets for the particular movy. I have used these headphones for the last two movies my wife and I attended. It most certainly enhances the enjoyment of a movie for both of us -- I know what's going on without my wife having to whisper to me during the show. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathryn Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:39 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas As you may know, there are several petitions on the site. In the limited time I have, I couldn't find the one you referenced, thus didn't sign it. My passion is with you- so far, my pen is not. Cathryn Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The weird writer Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:45 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas My name is Robert Kingett. like millions of Americans with vision or hearing impairments I love going to the movies. However, finding a cinema that offers movies with captioning or video description is not easy and many of my friends with vision impairments have simply stopped going to see a movie in a movie theater. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) recently introduced two bills that will expand access to captioning and image narration in movie theaters and allow people with visual or hearing impairments to enjoy the movies we all love to watch. The Captioning and Image Narration to Enhance Movie Accessibility (CINEMA) Act would require movie theater complexes of two or more screens to make captioning and video description available for ALL films at ALL showings. With the help of this petition we can help push through legislation that will force the studios and cinema operators to provide the necessary technology so that everyone can enjoy the cinema experience. The link is http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Help_to_legislate_audio_description_and_cap tioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairmentss _1/?cTSTleb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6493 - Release Date: 07/15/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 20:51:54 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:51:54 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] gerard.sadlier Message-ID: http://new.wekreate.com/ryzkr/pyroopcx.pvnfciyeeobqgu From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 20 21:16:08 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:16:08 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Gerard Sadlier Message-ID: <017201ce858e$5ac67990$10536cb0$@sbcglobal.net> Ger: I believe your email account has been hacked. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 21:19:20 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:19:20 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Gerard Sadlier In-Reply-To: <017201ce858e$5ac67990$10536cb0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <017201ce858e$5ac67990$10536cb0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Daniel and all, My email has indeed been hacked and. I have changed my password and hope that this will put an end to this. Sorry for any emails which may have purported to come from me in the last while, which I advise you to delete and disregard. Thank you Ger On 7/20/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Ger: > > > > I believe your email account has been hacked. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 23:25:11 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:25:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City In-Reply-To: <0FDBA640A9C14158A94454308001105A@klhurstl1> References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com> <0FDBA640A9C14158A94454308001105A@klhurstl1> Message-ID: <011d01ce85a0$626f0e70$274d2b50$@gmail.com> Unless you qualify for legal aid, I'm not sure I can help then. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of keri Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City I'm in Brooklyn. keri "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." --Robert Sexton "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." --Ivan Panin Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sybren Hoekstra" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City > what borough aare you in? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:57, "keri" wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm >> looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing issues >> and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options >> are. >> >> thanks, >> keri >> >> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want >> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will >> speak my heart." >> --Robert Sexton >> >> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth >> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart >> somewhere to receive it." >> --Ivan Panin >> >> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put >> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. >> >> "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all >> expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." >> Michael Robotham >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gm ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 23:37:09 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:37:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Question about LSAT accommodations In-Reply-To: <98C2A9A3-AD0D-468A-9D89-F66F32F93FA6@gmail.com> References: <98C2A9A3-AD0D-468A-9D89-F66F32F93FA6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <013901ce85a2$0ddd5bd0$29981370$@gmail.com> If you have some vision, it was really helpful for me to take some computer paper and a sharpie for the logic games to write out rules in symbol form and try combinations of things out on the page. They would only let me use jaws for the writing portion. For everything else, it was a reader who I had to boss around awkwardly for several hours. The reading comprehension part was the toughest. Of course, if I had had jaws, that would have been no issue at all. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 8:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Question about LSAT accommodations Hello Allison, I'm sorry I can't speak to the issue of how Braille versions of the LSAT are administered but I can think of one accommodation I'd suggest you consider: a notetaker or some other means of keeping track of items for the logic games. I took the test with a reader and though I was sure I'd mastered all the variants in practice, having him sit there patiently waiting while I just sat there thinking and trying to juggle wardrobe items, or runners names on a track all starting with different letters, or whatever it was, proved quite a bit more stressful in the moment. With accommodations you're comfortable with though, the test should be no trouble at all. Best of luck, Aser Tolentino Sent from my iPad On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Allison Nastoff wrote: > Hello, > I am a new member to this list. I have thought about studying law for > the past few years because I think it is a profession I would enjoy > and do well in. I have put off registering for the LSAT after reading > about some nightmarish experiences other blind people have had when > requesting accommodations, but since I have been a college grad for > over a year now and still haven't found a job with my current > education (bachelor of science in communication), I decided Wednesday > that I am ready to be brave and face the LSAC. > On that note, I have a few questions as I prepare my request for accommodations. > 1. For those who have taken the test in Braille, how did you mark your > answers? The last standardized test I took (the ACT in high school, I > put little dot stickers next to the letter of my choice in the book > and then went back through and read the answers to my proctor who > transcribed them on to the print answer sheet. Does the Braille LSAT > take in to account the need to be able to mark answers, not just read > the test, or do I have to come up with my own system for marking > answers and list that as a separate accommodation? > 2. The accommodations I am planning to request are a Braille test, > extra time, a computer equipped with JAWS and a printer for the > writing and diagrams, and a separate room so these accommodations > don't disrupt others. Are there any other accommodations I should > consider requesting that I may not have thought of? > Thank you so much in advance to anyone who can help me. > Allison Nastoff > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m From wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 23:41:47 2013 From: wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com (keri) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:41:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City References: <698AB9E499A1294499E756B72478AB3E245C6107@BLUPRD0711MB414.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><002e01ce5728$3a5c29f0$af147dd0$@labarrelaw.com><0FDBA640A9C14158A94454308001105A@klhurstl1> <011d01ce85a0$626f0e70$274d2b50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5711884AEBB94E9CA1B97A6DC31BCD34@klhurstl1> What is legal aid? keri "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak my heart." --Robert Sexton "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." --Ivan Panin Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." Michael Robotham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sy Hoekstra" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City > Unless you qualify for legal aid, I'm not sure I can help then. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of keri > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City > > I'm in Brooklyn. > > keri > > "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want > to > say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will > speak > my heart." > --Robert Sexton > > "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth > there > > is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere > to > > receive it." > --Ivan Panin > > Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put > it > > back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. > > "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all > expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." > Michael Robotham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sybren Hoekstra" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] help finding a lawyer in New York City > > >> what borough aare you in? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:57, "keri" wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I'm having a hard time trying to locate services that can help me. I'm >>> looking for free or very cheap legal advice. I've got some housing >>> issues > >>> and want to get more clearifications on the laws, and what my options >>> are. >>> >>> thanks, >>> keri >>> >>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want >>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will >>> speak my heart." >>> --Robert Sexton >>> >>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth >>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart >>> somewhere to receive it." >>> --Ivan Panin >>> >>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & >>> put > >>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his. >>> >>> "there is a moment when all hope disappears, all pride is gone, all >>> expectation, all faith all desire. I own that moment. It belongs to me." >>> Michael Robotham >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co > m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gm > ail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 00:35:40 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 01:35:40 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Please Disregard an Email you Received From me Earlier, my Account Was Hacked In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gerard Sadlier Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 01:29:29 +0100 Subject: Please Disregard an Email you Received From me Earlier, my Account Was Hacked To: sharon.grennan at talktalk.net, colin at baxters.karoo.co.uk, MarianASweetman at courts.ie, espeak.gaeilge at gmail.com, pauls_lists at eircom.net, andrew.costello at tcd.ie, daphneh at yahoo-inc.com, conormceneaney at gmail.com, Lina.Kouzi at ncbi.ie Dear all, My gmail account was hacked earlier today. If you got email from me earlier today (20 July) especially if its subject was 'Gerard Sadlier', please delete and disregard these. The emails sent contained links. Please lease do not open any such! As well as sending out a series of spam emails. The hacker also deleted the emails which they had sent, so that I cannot track exactly what was sent to whom. That is why I am emailing you all in this way. I am really sorry for any inconvenience caused. I think that my account has now been secured but if you deo rceive any unusual email from me over the next few days, I would be very grateful if you could let me know as soon as possible. Kind regards Ger From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Sun Jul 21 01:26:38 2013 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michael Nowicki) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:26:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest In-Reply-To: <000901ce856f$a52d5a40$ef880ec0$@com> References: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> <000901ce856f$a52d5a40$ef880ec0$@com> Message-ID: Hylis members, I apologize for any typographical errors in this message, as I am composing it using Siri. Personally, I don't believe that jailbreaking the phone will help. This is because the problem lies within the phone's compatibility with a given network, not in getting inside the operating system. For example, AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM networks. This means that phone number and other data are stored on a SIM card. Sprint and Verizon, on the other hand, are CDMA networks.m; Data is stored in the phone itself. My point is that a GSM phone will not work on a CDMA network and vice versa, unless the phone is built to work on both types of networks. For that reason, no AT&T phone can possibly work on sprint. It would be like trying to catch NAM station on FM only radio. I hope this helps. Michal Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Russ Thomas wrote: > Find someone that knows how to "jailbrake" the phone. That might work. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:20 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest > > Ross: > > Just wanted to fuss about an aspect of smart phones that really ticks me > off. > > In May of 2012, I purchased an I Phone 4S. I got a 60% discount for signing > a 2 year contract with the vendor, AT&&T. My monthly bill for the unlimited > access service is $100.84. > > Back in February, I did the math and figured out that I would save money if > I breached my 2 year deal, paid the liquidated sum of $200 agreed to and > started the same unlimited access service with Sprint for $50 per month. > There was but one problem. > > When I inquired with my local Sprint vendor, I was advised that the very > expensive I Phone that I purchased wasn't really mine. That is, my very > expensive I Phone can be activated, and utilized, through AT&T alone. > > So, the phone I thought I purchased, and was dumb enough to believe that I > owned, is actually the property of AT&T and I am merely leasing same for 2 > years. > > After the 2 year contract expires, I either renew my lease with AT&T, or the > very expensive I Phone is worthless as, even after fulfilling my contract, I > cannot have any competitor activate their service on what I thought was my > phone. > > Now, what really ticked me off about this is that this was not disclosed to > me by the AT&T sales person when I made the purchase. I understand that I > am educated, that I am my own best advocate and that I should have thought > to ask about this issue. However, it never occurred to me that the > transaction was a lease and not an owner purchase. I believe it to be > deceptive and that this should be the obligation of the lessor to disclose > pursuant to principles of truth in advertising, as this was an advertised > program. > > Furthermore, I have a niece that manages a T Mobil store and I called her > about this issue. She advised that the circumstances described above are > the usual practice across the board with all smart phone service providers. > > Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of useless knowledge. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:29 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest > > The link below is for an article about smart phone plans, and it raises a > fascinating legal issue. To be fair, it is an issue that is not exclusively > a blindness or low vision issue. For that very reason an opportunity to > change it may be a better one than if it was presented as strictly a > "blind" issue. > As you listen to it, note two interesting things - first, on a regular cell > phone plan that you sign up for two years with, the cost of the smart phone > you didn't pay "up front" is a part of you monthly bill. So, if that is so, > as the two interviewers say, why doesn't that "cell phone payment" part of > your monthly bill get dropped after the phone is paid off? > Second, you can rent a smart phone and pay for it until you want what they > bill as a "free" upgrade to a newer phone. As the interviewer points out, > aren't you paying for the same phone twice? > So, for those of you who are contracts or transactional attorneys - is that > legal? How can they charge all of us out here twice for the same thing? > I will openly confess my lack of legal expertise on such an issue, my > practice focus is on disability specific laws and regulations, so I would > like to know what others have to say on the matter. > By the way, if you have a "dumb phone" like I do, isn't it handled the same > way? Did I pay for my motorola twice? > > WBUR radio article > New Smartphone Upgrade Plans Can Be Costly In The Long Run > http://www.wbur.org/npr/203683450/new-smartphone-upgrade-plans-can-be-costly > -in-the-long-run > When you get the WBUR website up, scroll down to the "play" button that > should appear directly under the author of the article and click on it. > Interesting, isn't it. > > Ross A. Doerr Esq. > Visit my blog at: > http://journeyblind.blogspot.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 03:11:52 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:11:52 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Please Disregard an Email you Received From My Account Earlier, my Account was Hacked Message-ID: Dear all, My gmail account was hacked earlier today. If you got email from me earlier today (20 July) especially if its subject was 'Gerard Sadlier', please delete and disregard these. The emails sent contained links. Please lease do not open any such! As well as sending out a series of spam emails. The hacker also deleted the emails which they had sent, so that I cannot track exactly what was sent to whom. That is why I am emailing you all in this way. I am really sorry for any inconvenience caused. I think that my account has now been secured but if you deo rceive any unusual email from me over the next few days, I would be very grateful if you could let me know as soon as possible. Kind regards Ger From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Mon Jul 22 05:59:04 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 23:59:04 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest In-Reply-To: <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> References: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <011f01ce86a0$93150240$b93f06c0$@com> Hello Mr. McBride: It is probable that you may have been conned by an AT&T sales agent. However, it should be borne in mind that an AT&T iPhone WILL NOT work on a Sprint network. Sprint operates on the CDMA network. AT&T, on the otherhand, is strictly a GSM network. May be the iPhone supports dual networks, but I am not certain about that. If one wants an unlocked iPhone which can be ported to other networks, the cost, if memory serves, is well over $800. I work extra hard never to be locked into any contract; I simply purchase my own phone(s) and get a SIM card from a carrier of my choice. I'm not an iPhone enthusiast; I prefer instead the Android platform because it gives me more freedom to roam than the iPhone does. For example, I can change my own batteries on an Android-based phone, and, I can also use an SD card if I so desire. The chargers are pretty much universal--I can just walk over to WalMart and pick one up if necessary. I'm taking a hard look at the Galaxy S4 sold by Google. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From taiablas at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 06:08:43 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 01:08:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest In-Reply-To: <011f01ce86a0$93150240$b93f06c0$@com> References: <18952327C73B44DCB21CC534C2CE0502@mycomputer> <00d501ce8565$0972c270$1c584750$@sbcglobal.net> <011f01ce86a0$93150240$b93f06c0$@com> Message-ID: <0e3201ce86a1$ebd87050$c38950f0$@gmail.com> The iPhone is a dual band phone and can work on CDMA and GSM networks. If you are a customer in good standing, Verizon will unlock your iPhone at no charge, meaning that you need not pay full price for an unlocked phone at the time of purchase. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:59 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Smart Phone article of interest Hello Mr. McBride: It is probable that you may have been conned by an AT&T sales agent. However, it should be borne in mind that an AT&T iPhone WILL NOT work on a Sprint network. Sprint operates on the CDMA network. AT&T, on the otherhand, is strictly a GSM network. May be the iPhone supports dual networks, but I am not certain about that. If one wants an unlocked iPhone which can be ported to other networks, the cost, if memory serves, is well over $800. I work extra hard never to be locked into any contract; I simply purchase my own phone(s) and get a SIM card from a carrier of my choice. I'm not an iPhone enthusiast; I prefer instead the Android platform because it gives me more freedom to roam than the iPhone does. For example, I can change my own batteries on an Android-based phone, and, I can also use an SD card if I so desire. The chargers are pretty much universal--I can just walk over to WalMart and pick one up if necessary. I'm taking a hard look at the Galaxy S4 sold by Google. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Mon Jul 22 12:32:10 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:32:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] NY Times article on rising income opportunity Message-ID: <3E2987E69D6E45878841B28D31B056CD@mycomputer> The article below is not strictly legal in nature, nor is it blindness related. Having said this I offer to you all that its context is an indicator of where economic opportunity is to be found on a national level. Living here in Maine, I noted with interest just how low the per centage of opportunity is in the State according to the article. My children are grown and have left home, but I would, were they young, relocate to one of the areas noted in this article to afford them greater opportunity. I would also note that economic opportunity for blind professionals tends to be higher where it is highest for the nondisabled. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/business/in-climbing-income-ladder-locatio n-matters.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Tue Jul 23 02:59:58 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:59:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas In-Reply-To: <001001ce857b$fece07f0$fc6a17d0$@com> References: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> <002f01ce8578$58d31000$0a793000$@verizon.net> <001001ce857b$fece07f0$fc6a17d0$@com> Message-ID: <006601ce8750$b790d9e0$26b28da0$@verizon.net> That's good to know! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russ Thomas Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:05 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas This is already happening without legislation. If you look on a website that sells movy tickets in your area, the schedule will usually indicate whether the theatre offers headsets for the particular movy. I have used these headphones for the last two movies my wife and I attended. It most certainly enhances the enjoyment of a movie for both of us -- I know what's going on without my wife having to whisper to me during the show. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathryn Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:39 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas As you may know, there are several petitions on the site. In the limited time I have, I couldn't find the one you referenced, thus didn't sign it. My passion is with you- so far, my pen is not. Cathryn Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The weird writer Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:45 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas My name is Robert Kingett. like millions of Americans with vision or hearing impairments I love going to the movies. However, finding a cinema that offers movies with captioning or video description is not easy and many of my friends with vision impairments have simply stopped going to see a movie in a movie theater. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) recently introduced two bills that will expand access to captioning and image narration in movie theaters and allow people with visual or hearing impairments to enjoy the movies we all love to watch. The Captioning and Image Narration to Enhance Movie Accessibility (CINEMA) Act would require movie theater complexes of two or more screens to make captioning and video description available for ALL films at ALL showings. With the help of this petition we can help push through legislation that will force the studios and cinema operators to provide the necessary technology so that everyone can enjoy the cinema experience. The link is http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Help_to_legislate_audio_description_and_cap tioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairmentss _1/?cTSTleb _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net ----- No virus found in this message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6504 - Release Date: 07/19/13 From agtolentino at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 05:14:00 2013 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:14:00 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in all U.S. cinemas In-Reply-To: <006601ce8750$b790d9e0$26b28da0$@verizon.net> References: <51E837A1.4090706@gmail.com> <002f01ce8578$58d31000$0a793000$@verizon.net> <001001ce857b$fece07f0$fc6a17d0$@com> <006601ce8750$b790d9e0$26b28da0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4527C6B5-940F-4891-9C30-04F7F9CBC569@gmail.com> Thanks Russ for pointing this out. I hadn't visited the MoPix site in, well, a very long time; and since then, the nearest theater offering described video went from one all the way across town to literally down the street, with several others in between. Sent from my iPad On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Cathryn" wrote: > That's good to know! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russ Thomas > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:05 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning > in all U.S. cinemas > > This is already happening without legislation. If you look on a website that > sells movy tickets in your area, the schedule will usually indicate whether > the theatre offers headsets for the particular movy. I have used these > headphones for the last two movies my wife and I attended. It most certainly > enhances the enjoyment of a movie for both of us -- I know what's going on > without my wife having to whisper to me during the show. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathryn > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:39 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning > in all U.S. cinemas > > As you may know, there are several petitions on the site. In the limited > time I have, I couldn't find the one you referenced, thus didn't sign it. > My passion is with you- so far, my pen is not. > Cathryn Bonnette > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The weird > writer > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:45 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Help to legislate audio description and captioning in > all U.S. cinemas > > My name is Robert Kingett. like millions of Americans with vision or hearing > impairments I love going to the movies. However, finding a cinema that > offers movies with captioning or video description is not easy and many of > my friends with vision impairments have simply stopped going to see a movie > in a movie theater. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) recently introduced two bills > that will expand access to captioning and image narration in movie theaters > and allow people with visual or hearing impairments to enjoy the movies we > all love to watch. The Captioning and Image Narration to Enhance Movie > Accessibility (CINEMA) Act would require movie theater complexes of two or > more screens to make captioning and video description available for ALL > films at ALL showings. With the help of this petition we can help push > through legislation that will force the studios and cinema operators to > provide the necessary technology so that everyone can enjoy the cinema > experience. > > The link is > http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Help_to_legislate_audio_description_and_cap > tioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairmentss > _1/?cTSTleb > ptioning_in_all_US_cinemas_for_movie_fans_with_visual_or_hearing_impairments > _1/?cTSTleb> > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver > izon.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6493 - Release Date: 07/15/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver > izon.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3204/6504 - Release Date: 07/19/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Jul 23 21:38:35 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:38:35 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Position Opening In-Reply-To: <536A6F8F8486F94A982D8431ACEF3CC0582946@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org> References: <536A6F8F8486F94A982D8431ACEF3CC0582946@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org> Message-ID: <00d701ce87ec$fcc58dc0$f650a940$@labarrelaw.com> Fyi This is a job opening for the American Bar Association Commission on Disability Rights. From: Allbright, Amy [mailto:Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Position Opening Hi all, In case you know of persons interested in the CDR position that Sherri Rita held, here is the link where he/she may submit their application. http://www.americanbar.org/utility/about_the_aba/employment_at_the_aba/aba_j ob_search.html Amy L. Allbright Director Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 American Bar Association (ABA) 1050 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 400 Washington, DC 20036 T: 202.662.1575 F: 202.442.3439 Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org http://www.americanbar.org/groups/disabilityrights.html Description: Description: 40thAnnv_ComDisabRights#76B -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12270 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 23 23:25:58 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:25:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] New Smart Phone for kids? Message-ID: <90F363DC1FC8461CBB8DB09728B829AC@mycomputer> Hello - I will apologize up front to the list because this post is not a legal one. But I was the one who posted the article about cell phone plans a few days ago, and this one is similar. But I promise that I will post no more article that do not have a legal basis to it. Well folks, I'd have to disagree with the initial assertion that this phone is for "kids" - but look at the price tag for it! Good lord what a cost. http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2013/07/21/for-blind-kids-smartphone-sho ws-way/RCxI74zW3ENnpMtXP02oNL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 Once you get this Boston Globe site article up, tap the letter H to get to the article title, then use the down arrow key to find the text of the article. Be patient, it's a bit of a chore to get there. The Boston Globe site is a big pain in the neck to navigate with JAWS, but the article is worth the work. So, for about $1,000 you can get this impressive new software on the Galaxy smart phone, and they're trying for a version for the iPhone as well. Ross From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 23 23:45:44 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:45:44 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] New Smart Phone for kids? In-Reply-To: <90F363DC1FC8461CBB8DB09728B829AC@mycomputer> References: <90F363DC1FC8461CBB8DB09728B829AC@mycomputer> Message-ID: <030701ce87fe$c02dc0f0$408942d0$@sbcglobal.net> Ross: >From the far reaches of Fort Worth, Texas, you have no need to apologize. "Legal" or not, your posts are most usually informative. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:26 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] New Smart Phone for kids? Hello - I will apologize up front to the list because this post is not a legal one. But I was the one who posted the article about cell phone plans a few days ago, and this one is similar. But I promise that I will post no more article that do not have a legal basis to it. Well folks, I'd have to disagree with the initial assertion that this phone is for "kids" - but look at the price tag for it! Good lord what a cost. http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2013/07/21/for-blind-kids-smartphone-sho ws-way/RCxI74zW3ENnpMtXP02oNL/story.html?s_campaign=8315 Once you get this Boston Globe site article up, tap the letter H to get to the article title, then use the down arrow key to find the text of the article. Be patient, it's a bit of a chore to get there. The Boston Globe site is a big pain in the neck to navigate with JAWS, but the article is worth the work. So, for about $1,000 you can get this impressive new software on the Galaxy smart phone, and they're trying for a version for the iPhone as well. Ross _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 24 14:43:47 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:43:47 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: National Federation of the Blind Praises DOJ Settlement with Louisiana Tech In-Reply-To: <4C785AE92339A84D80E58139B523D98535C0DD24@BLUPRD0711MB424.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <4C785AE92339A84D80E58139B523D98535C0DD24@BLUPRD0711MB424.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <008c01ce887c$34d7c040$9e8740c0$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: Freeh, Jessica [mailto:JFreeh at nfb.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:39 AM To: Subject: National Federation of the Blind Praises DOJ Settlement with Louisiana Tech FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind Praises DOJ Settlement with Louisiana Tech Baltimore, Maryland (July 24, 2013): The National Federation of the Blind , the nation's leading advocate for full access to higher education by the blind, today praised a settlement reached by the United States Department of Justice with Louisiana Tech University and the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana System. The settlement requires Louisiana Tech to ensure that course materials, including those made available online, and other technologies used by the university are fully accessible to students with disabilities, including blind students who require nonvisual access. Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the National Federation of the Blind , said: "Online course materials and course management systems are a critical part of education today, and these technologies must be accessible to blind students in order for them to receive an equal education. This groundbreaking settlement not only ensures full access to all of Louisiana Tech University's courses and programs for its blind students, but also makes it clear that the Americans with Disabilities Act requires all institutions of higher education to procure and deploy technology that is fully accessible to their blind students. Moreover, the settlement puts in place policies and procedures that emphasize the accountability of university personnel, including members of the faculty, to ensure that courses and materials offered by the university are fully accessible to blind students. As we mark the anniversary of the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act, we commend the Department of Justice for this outstanding result and for its commitment to protecting the right of blind students to an equal education." ### About the National Federation of the Blind The National Federation of the Blind (NFB) is the oldest, largest, and most influential nationwide membership organization of blind people in the United States. Founded in 1940, the NFB advocates for the civil rights and equality of blind Americans, and develops innovative education, technology, and training programs to provide the blind and those who are losing vision with the tools they need to become independent and successful. We need your support. To make a donation, please go to www.nfb.org. From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Jul 24 16:15:51 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:15:51 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] New Smart Phone for kids? References: <90F363DC1FC8461CBB8DB09728B829AC@mycomputer> <030701ce87fe$c02dc0f0$408942d0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <962EE719A1614D3C854D6FBCC9673755@victory2> Yes, Mr. Doerr, law and legalese can't be the only issues that stimulate the human mind. Like Mr. McBride, I do enjoy reading your informational articles and I sure hope the list administrators will allow them to keep coming! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From darlene.olsen at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 19:33:24 2013 From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:33:24 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] New Smart Phone for kids? In-Reply-To: <962EE719A1614D3C854D6FBCC9673755@victory2> References: <90F363DC1FC8461CBB8DB09728B829AC@mycomputer> <030701ce87fe$c02dc0f0$408942d0$@sbcglobal.net> <962EE719A1614D3C854D6FBCC9673755@victory2> Message-ID: Greetings List Members, I agree as part of the silent majority. I read the postings and usually find them interesting. Thanks, I am also in the market for a cellular phone that will assist me with my vision disability. Respectfully, Darlene Olsen Benicia, California On 7/24/13, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote: > Yes, Mr. Doerr, law and legalese can't be the only issues that stimulate the > > human mind. Like Mr. McBride, I do enjoy reading your informational > articles and I sure hope the list administrators will allow them to keep > coming! > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com > -- Darlene Olsen From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 24 20:49:56 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:49:56 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Please post/forward ACLU LGLF-24 Staff Attorney Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c301ce88af$5b14d7b0$113e8710$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: hrintern [mailto:hrintern at aclu.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:42 PM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Please post/forward ACLU LGLF-24 Staff Attorney Position July 19, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY STAFF ATTORNEY [LGLF-24] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Racial Justice Program, NY For over 90 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Racial Justice Program (RJP) of the ACLU's National office in New York City invites applications for the full-time position of Staff Attorney. OVERVIEW The ACLU'S Racial Justice Program challenges racial discrimination and other practices and policies that have a direct or disparate impact on communities of color with a particular emphasis on education and criminal justice issues and with an emerging focus on economic issues. Among its other goals, RJP seeks to ensure that all children have access to equal, high quality educational opportunities, regardless of race or ethnicity. Likewise, the RJP is dedicated to exposing and eliminating discriminatory racial practices and policies which have a disproportionate impact on communities of color throughout the criminal justice system. RJP has worked to assure that persons of color have access to economic opportunities in the areas of government programs and access to home ownership. In furtherance of these goals, RJP, often working with the ACLU's affiliates nationwide, has filed lawsuits challenging disparate educational opportunities, pre- and post- 9/11 racial profiling, policies and practices which push children out of the education system into the juvenile justice and criminal justice systems, unfair lending practices and a range of police and criminal justice system practices which have a particularly adverse impact on communities of color. RJP has also engaged in other innovative advocacy and public education efforts including the development of resource materials and web sites addressing a number of racial justice issues. RJP is part of the ACLU Equality Center, which also includes the ACLU's work on immigrant's rights, voting rights and disability rights. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES * Litigate in trial and appellate courts, both state and federal, including writing and reviewing briefs, motion papers, and affidavits, preparing witnesses and taking and defending depositions. * Conduct legal research and fact investigations to identify racial justice issues subject to legal challenge. * Develop new cases and identify and work with potential plaintiffs and witnesses. * Support and advise ACLU affiliates, coalition partners and racial justice bar on legal and policy issues. * Serve as a resource for, and, when needed, participate directly in ACLU legislative and policy work. * Advance ACLU goals through public education, advocacy and media. * Supervise student interns, legal fellows, and paralegals. * Work on funding proposals, reports and donor solicitations as requested. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS * J.D. degree is required. A minimum of seven years of litigation experience preferred. * Ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Demonstrated commitment to racial justice issues and public interest law preferred. * Ability to engage in complex legal analysis and fact investigation in an impact litigation setting. * Excellent legal research and writing skills are essential. * Experience conducting factual research and interviewing witnesses preferred. * Knowledge of criminal and racial justice law is strongly preferred. * Fluency in Spanish is a plus. * Ability and willingness to travel is required. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, resume, a legal writing sample (sample will not be returned) and the names of three (3) references by email to hrjobsRJP at aclu.org.Reference [LGLF-24/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Racial Justice Program posting. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively applications can be mailed to: Racial Justice Program American Civil Liberties Union Foundation RE: [LGLF-24/INCL] 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 25 22:01:10 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:01:10 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [DRBA] 1 year fellowship opporunity at DRA/Berkeley In-Reply-To: <754D9C7D0111F64FB1C87BD46B8ACD1C01BBDD4E@draexchange.dralegal.com> References: <754D9C7D0111F64FB1C87BD46B8ACD1C01BBDD4E@draexchange.dralegal.com> Message-ID: <00b201ce8982$78e5e850$6ab1b8f0$@labarrelaw.com> Fyi From: Disability Rights Bar Association [mailto:DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin Knestrick Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:54 PM To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [DRBA] 1 year fellowship opporunity at DRA/Berkeley We have a one year fellowship opportunity in Berkeley - immediate opening. I'd appreciate people sharing with anyone who may interested. Kevin Knestrick Senior Staff Attorney Disability Rights Advocates 2001 Center Street, Third Floor Berkeley, California 94704-1204 (510) 665-8644 (510) 665-8511 (fax) (510) 665-8716 (TTY) kknestrick at dralegal.org http://www.dralegal.org _____________________________________ STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. This information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or at (510) 665-8644 or (510) 665-8716 (TTY) and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you for your cooperation. REMINDER: The DRBA listserv is intended to facilitate open discussion and sharing of ideas. Members need to feel confident that their discussions will not be distributed beyond the group unnecessarily. PLEASE CONSULT WITH THE SENDER(S) BEFORE FORWARDING ANY LISTSERV DISCUSSIONS BEYOND THE DRBA GROUP. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DRA_Fellowship_Opportunity.docx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 16509 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Jul 26 12:03:27 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:03:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Oct. Dinner Forum -- Facilitated Conversation Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3A890CE6@pl-emsmb12> [cid:image005.png at 01CE89D6.9BA7DFC0] [A DIALOGUE ON ACCESSIBILITY OF THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS Mid-Atlantic Lyceum Fall Repast and Repartee Series] October 8, 2013 Repast and Repartee Series: Access to Cultural Arts and Institutions 6:00 pm - 8:15 pm American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Avenue, NW, Room 603, Washington, D.C. 20016 Background Like no other point in history, people with disabilities are more visible in civil society, inclusive of our cultural arts as well as our frivolities, such as television. The fall, 2013, line-up on television will include more people with disabilities as characters than ever before. In the District, institutions like the Kennedy Center, the Shakespeare Theatre, and the Smithsonian have more audio description than has ever been a reality for people with sensory disabilities. Whether it is the Americans with Disabilities Act or the convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, there are more legal frameworks than ever before, yet more work is needed to make civil rights of people with disabilities, including, their assistance dogs, a reality. The Lyceum is thusly honored that a reception will occur in the month of October to celebrate disability awareness and to advance the mission of the Lyceum of bringing people together to discuss public policy. This will be a facilitated presentation and community forum on these issues with a transcript to be published possibly in the Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy in its third issue. Featured Speakers and Facilitators Remarks by Master of Ceremony and co-facilitator -- Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M., Co-founder of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and Co-founder of its Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy Betty Siegel, Esq., Director of VSA and Accessibility at the John F. 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Name: image006.png Type: image/png Size: 10077 bytes Desc: image006.png URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jul 26 15:52:42 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:52:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Settlements put colleges' duty to ensure access to materials under new scrutiny | Inside Higher Ed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Lissner, L S. (Scott ) [mailto:lissner.2 at osu.edu] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:40 AM To: 'aheadmembers at listserve.com' Subject: Settlements put colleges' duty to ensure access to materials under new scrutiny | Inside Higher Ed Nice to note that today is the Twenty third anniversary of the ADA (Http://ada.osu.edu/ada-23-years-odi.pdf) Audiobooks Aren't Enough July 26, 2013 By Allie Grasgreen http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/07/26/settlements-put-colleges-duty-ensure-blind-students-access-materials-under-new Louisiana Tech University’s agreement this week to stop using learning materials that limit access for students with visual disabilities signifies a broader shift in the extent to which colleges are expected to address accessibility, experts say. That settlement with the U.S. Justice Department over allegations that the university violated the Americans with Disabilities Act is the latest in a series of cases this year, which, taken together, paint a fuller picture of what colleges must do to ensure students with visual impairments can access learning materials – if not exactly how they should do it. “I think it is a game-changer for colleges,” said Lizanne DeStefano, an education professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who sat on the U.S. Education Department’s 2011 Commission on Accessible Instructional Materials in Postsecondary Education for Students with Disabilities. “Most colleges provide services for students with visual impairment and other special needs as far as getting the materials,” DeStefano said. “But I think the timing and the quality of those materials vary widely from campus to campus, and this will probably raise the quality and shorten the time and equalize that variability a little bit.” That way, a blind student might not have to go to some room across campus in the middle of the night to do homework because the technology is only in one place, or fall weeks behind in class while waiting for digital conversions of textbooks. The Louisiana Tech settlement in particular goes further than previous statements by Justice in that it prohibits the university from buying any inaccessible materials in the future, and requires cooperation from faculty in ensuring that disabled students get what they need. “When you look at this as the most recent statement in a trend, it’s a very powerful trend," said Scott Lissner, president of the Association on Higher Education and Disability. The Louisiana Tech settlement with the U.S. Justice Department follows a settlement in March between the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights and the South Carolina Technical College System. In that case, the system agreed to revise all its institutions’ websites to make them accessible and review them annually. That settlement also emphasized that ease of use should be substantially equivalent for all students. And just two months ago, the University of California at Berkeley settled in a private lawsuit filed by three disabled students there, agreeing to create a first-of-its-kind library print-to-digital conversion system.. (Settlement agreements like the two above are specific to those institutions and not legally binding anywhere else, but they are looked to by all campuses as guidance for what will and won’t fly under laws like ADA.) Dating further back, to 2010, the federal government has been pushing this issue. In a joint “Dear Colleague” letter to colleges and universities, Justice and Education noted that institutions using electronic book readers without an accessible text-to-speech function were violating discrimination laws. The letter was sent six months after Justice settled complaints with colleges over their use of the Amazon Kindle, but advised institutions to think broadly about all their educational materials. “I think it clearly says, look, the Department of Education and the Department of Justice and private advocacy are all three moving in the same direction,” said Lissner, who is also ADA coordinator at Ohio State University. “This isn’t precedent, but I think it’s awfully informative and that a campus response reasonably would be to start – if I haven’t already done – a review of my use of technology and web-based tools for accessibility.” Per the settlement agreement, Louisiana Tech must “ensure” from here on out that “all technology, including websites, instructional materials and online courses, and other electronic and informational technology for use by students or prospective students, is accessible.” And it won’t be enough simply to keep some audiobooks on hand somewhere. “ 'Accessible’ means a person with a disability is afforded the opportunity to acquire the same information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the same services as a person without a disability in an equally effective and equally integrated manner, with substantially equivalent ease of use,” the agreement continues. “The person with a disability must be able to obtain the information as fully, equally and independently as a person without a disability.” But Lissner said some campus officials have qualms about the direction of the government and questions about how deeply they should examine their own services. “I hear institutions and organizations representing institutions being concerned that there’s not a clear technical standard and that doing some of this is maybe putting the cart before the horse,” Lissner said. “I hear general concern about, ‘Can I do it in the time frame they want me to do this?’ They’re pushing this pretty fast, and budgets are still tight.” Other people have told Lissner that they didn’t want to investigate whether students were having problems because, if they were and the college didn’t do anything about it, the institutions might be more liable if federal investigators came knocking. (Lissner argues this is not the case.) And despite the clarity on fundamentals, exactly how to provide the appropriate services remains a question, said Lauren McLarney, government affairs specialist at the National Federation for the Blind. The Justice Department has told colleges they want them to use technology that can be accessed by all students – all Apple products, for example, have features making them workable for the visually impaired. But it has also said that alternatives – which may or may not be better for students -- can be acceptable. (The Louisiana Tech settlement would appear to be a departure from this stance.) “There is either an ignorance or a lack of clarity about what accessibility and equal access look like,” McLarney said. “There is no such thing as separate but equal when we’re talking about emerging technology… it’s too new.” The ADA complaint leading to the settlement was filed by a blind student who couldn’t access Louisiana Tech’s online learning platform, MyOMLab. When the student went to the course’s professor for help, the professor told the student to consult MyOMLab for help. Ten days later, after that contact was made, the problem persisted, and the student went to administrators in the university’s office of disability services. But, more than a month into the semester, the student still couldn’t access the tutorials and homework materials on the website, and fell so far behind that withdrawing from the class became the only option. The student subsequently filed a complaint over the course. Then, as Justice investigated the complaint, the same professor distributed inaccessible hard copy course materials in a different course and when the student asked for them in an online format, the professor told another student to handle it, “which ultimately occurred several days after the class session in which they were provided.” While the student’s experience in the former class is an obvious case of discrimination, the situation in the latter course is a good example of the many less blatant ADA violations that are still not permissible because the disabled student does not receive equivalent support. The student’s experience also sheds light on the settlement’s focus on faculty cooperation. While it doesn’t necessarily mandate that professors recreate each and every one of their documents, it does suggest they should keep students with visual disabilities in mind. “The big key here is going to be engaging faculty because they produce a lot of materials,” DeStefano said. “That will make the life of the student support staff much, much easier.” From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 26 17:31:22 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:31:22 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Please post/forward ACLU IRI-06 Paralegal Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ab01ce8a25$f2ef5fc0$d8ce1f40$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: hrintern [mailto:hrintern at aclu.org] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:10 AM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Please post/forward ACLU IRI-06 Paralegal Position July 24, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY PARALEGAL [IRI-06] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Immigrants' Rights Project, San Francisco, CA For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Immigrants' Rights Project (IRP) of the ACLU's National office in San Francisco seeks applications for the full-time position of Paralegal. This position is for a duration of three years. OVERVIEW IRP conducts the largest litigation program in the country dedicated to enforcing and defending the constitutional and civil rights of immigrants and to combating public and private discrimination against non-citizens. IRP also supports and coordinates the immigrants' rights work of the ACLU's affiliates around the country. The Project maintains offices in New York and California (with additional staff in Atlanta and Los Angeles). Current areas of litigation and advocacy include state and local anti-immigrant laws and practices; immigration enforcement practices and racial profiling; immigration detention; habeas corpus and access to the courts; discriminatory language and education policies; and due process in immigration removal proceedings. The Immigrants' Rights Project is part of the ACLU's Center for Equality, which works to uphold the federal constitution's promise that all Americans will receive equal protection of the law. The Center also includes the ACLU's Racial Justice, Voting and Disability work. The Paralegal will be part of IRP's national staff and will support the ACLU's nationwide and coordinated campaign of litigation, advocacy, and public education to fight back against anti-immigrant state laws and policies. In recent years, state and local lawmakers around the country have adopted unconstitutional legislation and policies designed to take federal immigration regulation and enforcement into their own hands. These policies invite discrimination against immigrants, Latinos, and other communities of color and erode civil rights and civil liberties by, for example, permitting police officers to demand documentation from anyone who is subject to routine encounters with law enforcement. The civil liberties threats are especially dire in the southwestern, midwestern and southeastern regions of the country, where state legislatures have enacted some of the nation's harshest anti-immigrant laws and local law enforcement agencies have implemented unconstitutional policies and practices relating to immigration enforcement. The Paralegal will participate in regular staff meetings and will have the opportunity to learn about strategies for protecting the rights of immigrants. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES . Prepare and file legal pleadings; arrange for service of legal documents; prepare and serve discovery documents; and research on court rules and procedures. . Maintain case files, attorneys' correspondence files, and internal litigation tracking systems including case summaries and calendar of litigation deadlines and hearings. . Process and respond to requests for legal assistance. . Serve as liaison to Accounting for reimbursements and expenses. . Supervise the recruitment, hiring training and work of Legal Administrative Assistants and interns. Collaborate in administering the legal internship program. . Conduct factual research in support of litigation and advocacy work. . Update content on the ACLU website and intranet. . Handle special projects and other duties, e.g. event planning, as assigned by attorneys and the Office Manager. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS . Bachelor's degree and one year of paralegal or related experience required. . Experience in preparing legal pleadings, including production of tables of contents and authorities for legal briefs, is strongly preferred. . Strong research and organizational skills required. . Must have outstanding written, verbal and interpersonal skills. . Ability to work independently as well as within a team. . Must be well organized, efficient, highly motivated, and able to handle multiple tasks simultaneously and see them through to completion. . Strong computer skills with advanced knowledge and experience in Microsoft Office and Adobe Acrobat. . Familiarity with federal court rules and procedures is preferred. . Experience supervising staff and interns. . Basic knowledge of Westlaw Next is preferred. . Fluency in Spanish is a plus. . Commitment to civil liberties, immigrants' rights and public interest legal work is essential. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Interested persons should submit a cover letter (include salary requirements), resume, a non-fiction writing sample (sample will not be returned) and three (3) references by email to hrjobsIRP at aclu.org. Reference [IRI-06/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Immigrants' Rights Project posting. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Please note that only email submissions of applications will be accepted. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Jul 26 18:12:17 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 18:12:17 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Lyceum Breakfast Meeting Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3A895426@pl-emsmb12> On behalf of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum - You are cordially invited to the first in a series of social calls Saturday, August 17, 2013 at 10:30 A.M. sharply The Lyceum will host and Mr. Pilot and his retired mentor Mr. Langer wish to hold these social calls in support and honor of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, leaders with disabilities, such as their partner Gary C. Norman, and animal related concerns. The social calls are also held as a means of bringing all past or present volunteers, partners, or supporters of the Lyceum together for refreshment from their labors on the Journal and sundry other projects. First Social Call Do enjoy breakfast with board members of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum at the cost of $10 or $20 wherein the proceeds of this larger cost -- $10 -- will be contributed to the Baltimore Animal Rescue and Care Shelter. Ø At a breakfast reception, do rejoinder Gary C. Norman and Mr. Pilot in a light breakfast with corresponding toast to leaders with disabilities who are changing the world, such as with respect to supporting the dogs and cats at BARCS. Ø Fine conversation will be a core component of this reception, fitting to what constitutes the dolce vita. Ø A gift certificate to the Alchemy: Modern American Bistro in the amount of $50 will, after the toast, be raffled. Logistics: Location and Alike 1). the breakfast reception will occur at a vegan friendly place, Breathe Books Cafe, 810 West 36 Street, Baltimore City, between Elm and Chestnut Avenues. 2). the goal is to dine either on the first floor or outside should the weather not be unbearable. Food may be purchased at a set price of $10 (recommended combinations will be provided at time of purchase) on the first floor. 3). RSVP notifications are requested. This social call will close at a limit of 20 persons. Up to 5 students currently working on the Journal and 1 past manager of the Journal (i.e. Lacey) will dine for free, as purchased by the Lyceum in gratitude of them thereof. Do provide your RSVP to Gary at (410) 241-6745 or via e-mail at GLNorman15 at hotmail.com. 4). In terms of those who want to donate, cash will be accepted or a separate check should be made to BARCS With fraternal affection and respect, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. Misters Pilot and Langer From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 18:39:33 2013 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:39:33 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Meetup for the Legal profession in DC Message-ID: <000d01ce8bc1$cddd8980$69989c80$@gmail.com> Invitation from Stephanie Enyart: Meetup for the Legal profession Hello Friends and friends of friends, Happy 23rd Anniversary of the ADA!!!! Please spread the word to all those who would be interested in this event . . . WHO: 20 & 30-something Lawyers, Law Students and those considering law school WITH DISABILITIES. WHAT: Dinner & great conversation WHEN: Monday, July 29, 2013 from 7-9:45 p.m. WHY: To continue the ADA celebration just a little longer, for those involved in the National Association of Law Students with Disabilities (past or present) to have a chance for a regional reunion of sorts, to work toward a stronger sense of regional connectedness within our generation (prior to our eventual domination . . . smile) WHERE: Buca di Beppo in Dupont Circle -- 1825 Connecticut NW, Washington DC, 20009 cross street Florida 4 blocks from Dupont Cir take Q st. exit - go to right phone: 202 232 8466 HOW: RSVP to Stephanie by texting 415.596.6050 with your name and the names of those you are bringing so we have a somewhat accurate headcount. Accommodations: I'd like to pay for ASL interpreter service for the event. If you have good contacts, please share them with me by texting the number above. From Vyingling at nfb.org Tue Jul 30 16:24:32 2013 From: Vyingling at nfb.org (Yingling, Valerie) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:24:32 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue Message-ID: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> The NFB recently learned that a number of Yahoo Mail users have experienced difficulty accessing e-mail features with screen readers. The NFB is committed to addressing these barriers and would like to provide Yahoo's technical support staff with a detailed list of currently inaccessible features. If you have experienced difficulty accessing Yahoo Mail with a screen reader, please contact me at vyingling at nfb.org. Valerie Yingling Paralegal National Federation of the Blind E-mail: Vyingling at nfb.org ________________________________ [blindlaw] accessibility issue Mike Gilmore m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Tue Jul 9 18:43:58 UTC 2013 Hi everyone, I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to switch back to classic (my personal preference.) Mike From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 30 16:49:01 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:49:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue In-Reply-To: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net> Valerie: My experience with Yahoo Mail is so bad that I never use it. I utilize Microsoft Outlook 2010, previously Microsoft Outlook. I attempted to utilize Yahoo Mail numerous times over a period of ten years. Navigating Yahoo Mail is so damned user unfriendly for JAWS that I just gave up. Dan McBride, Attorney Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Yingling, Valerie Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:25 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue The NFB recently learned that a number of Yahoo Mail users have experienced difficulty accessing e-mail features with screen readers. The NFB is committed to addressing these barriers and would like to provide Yahoo's technical support staff with a detailed list of currently inaccessible features. If you have experienced difficulty accessing Yahoo Mail with a screen reader, please contact me at vyingling at nfb.org. Valerie Yingling Paralegal National Federation of the Blind E-mail: Vyingling at nfb.org ________________________________ [blindlaw] accessibility issue Mike Gilmore m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Tue Jul 9 18:43:58 UTC 2013 Hi everyone, I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to switch back to classic (my personal preference.) Mike _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 30 17:06:05 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:06:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Searching for someone who uses... Message-ID: A sound editor called "Gold Wave" and who is also a JAWS user. Could you please respond to me off list so that I don't clog up the list with a nonlegal issue. Thank you. rumpole at roadrunner.com Ross From paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 18:20:52 2013 From: paul.sullivan416 at gmail.com (Paul Sullivan) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:20:52 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible cloud-based Calendar/Contacts Management? Message-ID: Hi all, I'm a bit dissatisfied with using Outlook's calendar and contacts. Does anyone have any recommendation for a good, accessible calendar and contacts management system, preferably cloud-based so I can access it from my phone, laptop and desktop? I have a vague recollection of trying Google's calendar in the past and thinking it wasn't very accessible. I wouldn't mind using two different services to manage contacts and calendaring, but if you know of one that would handle both that would be fantastic. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Paul -- Paul R. Sullivan, Jr. 100 Fifth Avenue Suite 503 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 (412) 456-2200 paul at paulsullivanlegal.com www.paulsullivanlegal.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Tue Jul 30 20:00:36 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:00:36 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue In-Reply-To: <00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net> References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> Daniel, I am sorry if below is confusing, but here is the situation? In my case, client was indicted for 5th dwi as third or more using dwi 1 & 2 to make it a felony; 2 enhancements were alleged to try to make it habitual, but the enhancements used were dwi's 3 & 4. My client pled open to a jury and true to one of the enahancements; the second enhancement could not be used because he was arrested on it before the other became final. However, he had 2 other pen trips for agg assault that could have been used, but were not alleged. He made a deal with state I'lll plead open to the jury if you don't reindict or amend indictment to make it a big bitch. I am on the appeal. One of my potential arguments which hasn't been decided by Amarillo, but has by other appellate courts is that DWI 1 & 2 should not be able to be used to enhance the current offense if they were also used to enhance dwi's 3 & 4 which are now being used as punishment enhancements. Thus my question is if I would prevail on this point which is unlikely, would he back doing a new punishment hearing with the enhancements as they were in the indictment or would it go back for a new trial in which case the State can go for the big bitch. I read the statute sent and it appears they couldn't do if on a new punishment hearing only, but if I am in a new trial position they could. What remedy do you think the appeallate court would choose? Thanks! Shannon Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Fax: (806) 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:49 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue Valerie: My experience with Yahoo Mail is so bad that I never use it. I utilize Microsoft Outlook 2010, previously Microsoft Outlook. I attempted to utilize Yahoo Mail numerous times over a period of ten years. Navigating Yahoo Mail is so damned user unfriendly for JAWS that I just gave up. Dan McBride, Attorney Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Yingling, Valerie Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:25 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Yahoo accessibility issue The NFB recently learned that a number of Yahoo Mail users have experienced difficulty accessing e-mail features with screen readers. The NFB is committed to addressing these barriers and would like to provide Yahoo's technical support staff with a detailed list of currently inaccessible features. If you have experienced difficulty accessing Yahoo Mail with a screen reader, please contact me at vyingling at nfb.org. Valerie Yingling Paralegal National Federation of the Blind E-mail: Vyingling at nfb.org ________________________________ [blindlaw] accessibility issue Mike Gilmore m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Tue Jul 9 18:43:58 UTC 2013 Hi everyone, I noticed today that Yahoo has forced everyone to use their new version and is disallowing yahoo classic. The new version just isn't compatible with JAWS 13 (don't know about 14.) Is anyone having the sime accessibility issues as I am? I propose we flood yahoo with complaints from the blind and get them to either make the new version compliant with JAWS or allow us to switch back to classic (my personal preference.) Mike _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Tue Jul 30 20:05:54 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:05:54 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Please ignore my prior e-mail it wasn't meant to go to this list serve Message-ID: <014701ce8d60$33446420$99cd2c60$@sbgaal.com> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Fax: (806) 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Tue Jul 30 20:17:51 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:17:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court In-Reply-To: <014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net> <014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: Hello colleagues: I am looking to purchase a quality earpiece to use in court with my laptop. Have any of you found one that works and that's not too big for such use? I would appreciate any recommendation Thanks Rod From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 30 20:32:13 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Please ignore my prior e-mail it wasn't meant to go to this list serve In-Reply-To: <014701ce8d60$33446420$99cd2c60$@sbgaal.com> References: <014701ce8d60$33446420$99cd2c60$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <015801ce8d63$dff22470$9fd66d50$@sbcglobal.net> Shannon: May I pay regard to same? (lol) Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:06 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Please ignore my prior e-mail it wasn't meant to go to this list serve Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Fax: (806) 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 30 20:32:45 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:32:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court In-Reply-To: References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net><014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: Hello Rod: I've used blue tooth wireles ear pieces for years with my laptop for hearings. I've been using an LGHB 750 since 2009, and its gotten to be pretty old, so its due for replacement. There are a host of them out there, and they all seem to work pretty well. I personaly have found LGH to be among the most comfortable in the ear, and that connects the best. Laptops these days have blue tooth detection that is pretty good, so I'd say you need to look for a light one that has a good batery life to it. I've found that, in an office where nondisabled lawyers are nearby, JAWS irritates them when used without some sort of ear piece. Wireless also lets me talk on the phone and take notes with my keyboard without the client having to listen to JAWS in the background. IT works for me pretty good. Ross -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:18 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court Hello colleagues: I am looking to purchase a quality earpiece to use in court with my laptop. Have any of you found one that works and that's not too big for such use? I would appreciate any recommendation Thanks Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6035 - Release Date: 07/30/13 From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Tue Jul 30 23:43:48 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:43:48 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court In-Reply-To: References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net><014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <21DDBD8531C64D64BB1BF9F02DCB4BFE@RodTHINK> ross: I will look into that model. I purchased a plantronics one recently and it was crapped. I was trying to see if folks on here are using specific ones that actually work. Appreciate your recommendation. -----Original Message----- From: Ross Doerr Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:32 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court Hello Rod: I've used blue tooth wireles ear pieces for years with my laptop for hearings. I've been using an LGHB 750 since 2009, and its gotten to be pretty old, so its due for replacement. There are a host of them out there, and they all seem to work pretty well. I personaly have found LGH to be among the most comfortable in the ear, and that connects the best. Laptops these days have blue tooth detection that is pretty good, so I'd say you need to look for a light one that has a good batery life to it. I've found that, in an office where nondisabled lawyers are nearby, JAWS irritates them when used without some sort of ear piece. Wireless also lets me talk on the phone and take notes with my keyboard without the client having to listen to JAWS in the background. IT works for me pretty good. Ross -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:18 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court Hello colleagues: I am looking to purchase a quality earpiece to use in court with my laptop. Have any of you found one that works and that's not too big for such use? I would appreciate any recommendation Thanks Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6035 - Release Date: 07/30/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Jul 31 00:26:38 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:26:38 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court In-Reply-To: <21DDBD8531C64D64BB1BF9F02DCB4BFE@RodTHINK> References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net><014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> <21DDBD8531C64D64BB1BF9F02DCB4BFE@RodTHINK> Message-ID: <027901ce8d84$a0027c40$e00774c0$@com> Hi Mr. Alcidonis: I use a Logitech H800 and I like it very much. It comes with a nano USB plug which you can pretty much plug in and forget. It is binaural and has an antenna that does not get in the way. It also supports Bluetooth and its battery can be charged using the proprietary USB charger it comes with. I've had it for nearly three and a half years. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Jul 31 15:22:10 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:22:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] October Panel at Wash. College of L. Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3A897719@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: The Mid-Atlantic Lyceum is honored to have an additional partner for its October panel, the Program on Law and Government, as reflected below. This is to thank its Director, Senator Raskin, for the support. Registration will soon be up and operating at Special Events. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. [,A DIALOGUE ON ACCESSIBILITY OF THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS Mid-Atlantic Lyceum Fall Repast and Repartee Series] October 8, 2013 6:00 pm - 8:15 pm American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Avenue, NW, Room 603, Washington, D.C. 20016 Repast and Repartee Series: Access to Cultural Arts and Institutions Like no other point in history, people with disabilities are more visible in civil society, inclusive of our cultural arts as well as our frivolities, such as television. The fall, 2013, line-up on television will include more people with disabilities as characters than ever before. In the District, institutions like the Kennedy Center, the Shakespeare Theatre, and the Smithsonian have more audio description than has ever been a reality for people with sensory disabilities. Whether it is the Americans with Disabilities Act or the convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, there are more legal frameworks than ever before, yet more work is needed to make civil rights of people with disabilities, including, their assistance dogs, a reality. The Lyceum is thusly honored that a reception will occur in the month of October to celebrate disability awareness and to advance the mission of the Lyceum of bringing people together to discuss public policy. This will be a facilitated presentation and community forum on these issues with a transcript to be published possibly in the Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy in its third issue. Featured Speakers and Facilitators Remarks by Master of Ceremony and co-facilitator -- Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M., Co-founder of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and Co-founder of its Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy Betty Siegel, Esq., Director of VSA and Accessibility at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Beth Ziebarth, Director of the Smithsonian Institution Accessibility Program Adeen Postar, Esq. Deputy Director of the Pence Law Library and Adjunct Professor Discussant and facilitator - Day Al Mohamed, Esq., Screen Writer and Anthology Editor Supporters Program on Law and Government, Washington College of Law Maryland Department of Disabilities Maryland Bar Foundation The Animals and Society Institute Museum of Maritime Pets Maryland Animal Law Center For more information, please do not hesitate to contact the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum at (410) 241-6745 Registration is free but required - please go to www.wcl.american.edu/secle/registration. 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Name: image005.png Type: image/png Size: 11691 bytes Desc: image005.png URL: From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 31 16:49:03 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:49:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court In-Reply-To: <027901ce8d84$a0027c40$e00774c0$@com> References: <2E77F7FE85FE99418761668AE1AA779E4FDEA0F7@SN2PRD0710MB382.namprd07.prod.outlook.com><00b301ce8d44$b1ed1400$15c73c00$@sbcglobal.net><014101ce8d5f$7f367d10$7da37730$@sbgaal.com> <21DDBD8531C64D64BB1BF9F02DCB4BFE@RodTHINK> <027901ce8d84$a0027c40$e00774c0$@com> Message-ID: <9FB57A127CD14E28BF8D4BA37C082919@mycomputer> Hello Olusegun: I like the sound of your earpiece - what operating system to you use it with, and did you have any trouble setting it up? My LGH is pretty aged and I'm looking to upgrade. Ross -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:27 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bluetooth earpiece for use with laptop in court Hi Mr. Alcidonis: I use a Logitech H800 and I like it very much. It comes with a nano USB plug which you can pretty much plug in and forget. It is binaural and has an antenna that does not get in the way. It also supports Bluetooth and its battery can be charged using the proprietary USB charger it comes with. I've had it for nearly three and a half years. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6036 - Release Date: 07/30/13