[blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters

Thu Jun 27 17:22:02 UTC 2013

All,

I want to second what Mr. Beitz said, though I would add that unlike
most other professional degrees the J.D. is more like buying a lottery
ticket as far as you being able to find legal employment. Three years
after graduation only about half my class ever found a permanent job
in law (based on their linkedin profiles anyway) I was one of the
lucky ones who found someone willing to give me a shot.

Best,

Paul

On 6/27/13, Daniel K. Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com> wrote:
> I've been gainfully employed for 21 years, so it has worked out alright.
> What really helps is to find someone who believes in you and will give you
> a
> chance.
>
>
>
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> McBride
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:41 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters
>
> No matter Daniel.  Your J.D. sheepskin is prestigiously embossed with the
> words 'University Of Michigan School Of Law'.  Enough said.  I refer to my
> sheep skin as my Little Bo Peep diploma.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K.
> Beitz
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:26 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters
>
> Not me!  I was very immature.  Nowhere near that good.
>
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> McBride
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:49 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters
>
> Daniel:
>
> >From my experience at Liddell, Sapp, I can tell you Michigan was near
>>the
> top of their list.  However, only those graduating Magna/Summa cum Laude
> were considered.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K.
> Beitz
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters
>
> I graduated from Michigan, and it took me 100 interviews to get a job at a
> firm of 130 attorneys in the Detroit area, and it wasn't really one of
> those
> bigshot firms.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
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> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> McBride
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:12 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] 10 tips for getting noticed by recruiters
>
> When I was working for the corporate firm in my freshman year of law
> school,
> the firm name was Liddell, Sapp, Zivley, Brown & LaBoon.  Next to Fulbright
> & Jaworski and Vinson & Elkins, it was the third largest firm in Houston,
> with offices in Austin, Dallas and Washington, D.C.  At that time, Locke &
> Purnell was the largest firm in Dallas, with offices in Austin and
> Washington, D.C.  Lord & Bissell was a large corporate firm out of Chicago,
> with offices in the United States, London and Hong Kong.
>
>
>
> Somewhere along the line, Locke & Purnell merged with Lord & Bissell.
> Shortly thereafter, Locke, Lord & Bissell merged with Liddell, Sapp.  The
> firm is now Locke, Lord, Bissell & Liddell, with offices in 13 cities in
> America, London and Hong Kong.
>
>
>
> While employed at Liddell, Sapp, part of my job duties involved the
> recruiting and hiring of new associates for fall and spring hiring classes.
> I can tell you that their list of 'acceptable' law schools included the Ivy
> League, Michigan, Stanford, Notre Dame, Illinois, UC Berkeley, Texas, Texas
> Tech, Baylor & SMU to name a few.
>
>
>
> And you had to graduate Magna Cum Laude or Summa Cum Laude to be
> considered.
>
>
>
> I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule.  However, the top notch law
> firms in this country recruit graduates only from the most prestigious
> schools who are at the top of their class.
>
>
>
> Angie, with all due respect to your alma mater, I cannot say that I have
> any
> idea where Virginia ranks.  However, I would not believe it to be in the
> top
> 20 to 30 schools.  But, that's just a guess.  With all due respect to my
> alma mater (South Texas College of Law), it isn't even on the list, and a
> South Texas grad can forget about it.  And, perhaps, we might differ on
> what
> is meant by a 'top' firm.  I am talking 'elite' firms such as Fulbright &
> Jaworski, Vinson & Elkins and Locke Lord.  To get into one of these firms,
> you best attend an Ivy League school and graduate no less than Magna Cum
> Laude.
>
>
>
> Now, of course, if one should attend any ABA accredited law school,
> graduate
> Cum Laude and have an uncle or aunt in Congress, or a top executive at a
> Wall Street firm, then they can probably be an exception to the general
> rule.
>
>
>
> And, if you lack these credentials, the other 10 tips are of little value.
> That's just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
>
> Dan McBride
>
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
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