From emrene at earthlink.net Mon Mar 4 19:04:16 2013 From: emrene at earthlink.net (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:04:16 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Washington State Bar Exam in Braille Message-ID: <8DDBE088C91A4C428C2618BC875B4458@elizabethrene> Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that I have just become the first person in Washington State to be given the bar exam in Braille. It was wonderful! The bar association contracted with a Braille translation firm to produce the questions under secure conditions, and the Braille quality was excellent. The difference for me between taking the exam in Braille and trying to read it in large type last summer was immeasurable. Washington's exam consisted of 18 essay questions in substantive law and 6 in legal ethics. Starting in July, the WSBA will administer the Uniform Bar Exam, with its multistate components plus essays. Washington had never tested in Braille before, but did a fine job. That ought to mean that any state can do it. Good luck to everyone preparing to take your bar exams! Elizabeth From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Mar 4 20:12:28 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:12:28 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: ABA GPSolo - FY14 Diversity Fellowship Applications - Deadline 4/30/13 In-Reply-To: <7AB1069752D5E64B91693A51A1C6612803B15E59@CHG-EMB-01.aba.ad.abanet.org> References: <7AB1069752D5E64B91693A51A1C6612803B15E59@CHG-EMB-01.aba.ad.abanet.org> Message-ID: <00b801ce1914$9e2a0f80$da7e2e80$@labarrelaw.com> I have been a member of this ABA division for many years and find it useful. For those that this opportunity is appropriate, I recommend the below. Best, Scott From: Diversity Board [mailto:GP-DIVERSITY at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee, Dee Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:34 PM To: GP-DIVERSITY at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: ABA GPSolo - FY14 Diversity Fellowship Applications - Deadline 4/30/13 Importance: High Diversity Board Members, Your help is needed in promoting the Diversity Initiative. We look forward to receiving applications from your referrals. FY14 DIVERSITY FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM - CALL FOR APPLICATIONS The Solo, Small Firm and General Practice Division established the Diversity Fellows Program in the 1999/2000 bar year. The program is designed to promote diversity within the Division and the ABA, while providing leadership development opportunities within the Division for women, attorneys of color, and those with disabilities and persons of differing sexual orientations and gender identities. 2013-2014The Division's Diversity Board will identify and nominate four lawyers of diverse backgrounds and experiences who will be appointed by the Chair-Elect to funded fellowship positions within the Division to be effective during the following bar year. Upon completion of successful active participation in the first scholarship year, these participants will then be appointed to regularly funded positions within the Division the following bar year, giving consideration to the Division's existing needs and the participants' preferences based upon the first year participation. Any lawyer or judge, who is a member of the Division, with a diverse background and experiences as defined by ABA Goal III, including, women, attorneys of color, and those with disabilities and persons of differing sexual orientations and gender identities. The fellows will receive normal Division reimbursement ($500 airfare and $100.00 per diem for two days) to attend the Division's Fall Meeting (typically held in October), and Spring Meeting (typically held in May). Fellows are also expected to show their commitment to the Division by attending the ABA Annual Meeting. The selection will be based on the individual's achievement and commitment to the organized bar and General Practice, Solo and Small Firm Division's mission and goals. Fellows will be required to attend three of the Division's meetings during their Fellowship. Fellows also agree to remain a member of the Division for a two-year period after their Fellowship concludes and participate in the activities and program of the Division. Nomination applications must be received by April 30, 2013. Successful applicants will be notified in early June 2013. Complete the application and submit to gpsolo at americanbar.org. Applications must be submitted by email or postmarked no later than April 30, 2013. American Bar Association Solo, Small Firm and General Practice Division Attn: Dee Lee, Program Specialist 321 N. Clark Street, MS 18.2 Chicago, IL 60654 gpsolo at americanbar.org Fax: (312) 988-5711 If you have any questions, please contact Dee Lee, GPSolo Program Specialist, at (312) 988-5659 or via e-mail dee.lee at americanbar.org. ______________________________________ Thank you for your continued interest in this list. 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On the other hand, if I open up google desktop and get down to the google web search, I have no trouble using the standard google comands to navigate. That is as strange as it is frustrating, especially since I can't get to the darn option settings for the desktop side of things. Has anyone else used it and if so, how did you manage to configure it? Google desktop is free and has great potential for those of us who are in solo practice, so I thought I'd ask. Ross From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Tue Mar 5 00:50:49 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:50:49 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Washington State Bar Exam in Braille In-Reply-To: <8DDBE088C91A4C428C2618BC875B4458@elizabethrene> References: <8DDBE088C91A4C428C2618BC875B4458@elizabethrene> Message-ID: <013801ce193b$7abf8620$703e9260$@com> My congratulations to you! Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:04 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Washington State Bar Exam in Braille Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that I have just become the first person in Washington State to be given the bar exam in Braille. It was wonderful! The bar association contracted with a Braille translation firm to produce the questions under secure conditions, and the Braille quality was excellent. The difference for me between taking the exam in Braille and trying to read it in large type last summer was immeasurable. Washington's exam consisted of 18 essay questions in substantive law and 6 in legal ethics. Starting in July, the WSBA will administer the Uniform Bar Exam, with its multistate components plus essays. Washington had never tested in Braille before, but did a fine job. That ought to mean that any state can do it. Good luck to everyone preparing to take your bar exams! Elizabeth _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Mar 5 12:07:24 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:07:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Google desktop Message-ID: Yesterday I posted a question regarding use of the google desktop application as a means to retrieve files and documents. While it is a handy tool, I was having some trouble with it, and now I know why. Google discontinued the support of the application back in 2011. Does anyone else use a desktop search utility that is currently supported that is put out by someone else? I confess that a desktop utility like that is a very useful thing in my practice. Ross From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Mar 5 13:07:21 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:07:21 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Air Travel security checks for the disabled Message-ID: <451D6A0663874A29AB867DCBED0B8720@mycomputer> Has anyone out there read through this N.Y. Times Article on how the T.S.A. is "improving things" for the disabled regarding security checks? I'd be curious to know if any legal action was taken with reference to the incident noted in February of this year. Is there anyone in that area who can shed any light on it? Ross N.Y. Times Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/05/business/improving-security-checks-to-help-the-disabled-on-the-road.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 From angie.matney at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 16:54:00 2013 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:54:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Google desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ross, What operating system are you using? I have found the built-in search in Vista (my home computer) and Windows 7 (my work machine) to be vary useful when I can only remember a name or a phrase in a file I need to find. Best, Angie On 3/5/13, Ross Doerr wrote: > Yesterday I posted a question regarding use of the google desktop > application as a means to retrieve files and documents. While it is a handy > tool, I was having some trouble with it, and now I know why. > Google discontinued the support of the application back in 2011. > Does anyone else use a desktop search utility that is currently supported > that is put out by someone else? > I confess that a desktop utility like that is a very useful thing in my > practice. > Ross > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > From rumpole at roadrunner.com Tue Mar 5 17:29:09 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:29:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Google desktop References: Message-ID: <0536CFF2AD6C400FA34B5EBD3167BA22@mycomputer> Hi Angie" I'm using my old faithful XP Pro laptop. I don't know if XP has a desktop search utility built in to it - I'll have to check. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Google desktop > Hi Ross, > > What operating system are you using? I have found the built-in search > in Vista (my home computer) and Windows 7 (my work machine) to be vary > useful when I can only remember a name or a phrase in a file I need to > find. > > Best, > > Angie > > > > On 3/5/13, Ross Doerr wrote: >> Yesterday I posted a question regarding use of the google desktop >> application as a means to retrieve files and documents. While it is a >> handy >> tool, I was having some trouble with it, and now I know why. >> Google discontinued the support of the application back in 2011. >> Does anyone else use a desktop search utility that is currently supported >> that is put out by someone else? >> I confess that a desktop utility like that is a very useful thing in my >> practice. >> Ross >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5650 - Release Date: 03/05/13 > From mikefry79 at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 17:31:21 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Mike Fry) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:31:21 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Washington State Bar Exam in Braille In-Reply-To: <013801ce193b$7abf8620$703e9260$@com> References: <8DDBE088C91A4C428C2618BC875B4458@elizabethrene> <013801ce193b$7abf8620$703e9260$@com> Message-ID: Congratulations Elizabeth Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Russell J. Thomas" wrote: > My congratulations to you! > > > Regards, > RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. > Principal Attorney > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > Newport Beach, California 92660 > T: 949-752-0101 > F: 949-257-4756 > > Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney > > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the > personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message > may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is > privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in > error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this > message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original > message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth > Rene > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:04 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Washington State Bar Exam in Braille > > Hi all, > > Just wanted to let you know that I have just become the first person in > Washington State to be given the bar exam in Braille. It was wonderful! > > The bar association contracted with a Braille translation firm to produce > the questions under secure conditions, and the Braille quality was > excellent. > > The difference for me between taking the exam in Braille and trying to read > it in large type last summer was immeasurable. > > Washington's exam consisted of 18 essay questions in substantive law and 6 > in legal ethics. Starting in July, the WSBA will administer the Uniform Bar > Exam, with its multistate components plus essays. > > Washington had never tested in Braille before, but did a fine job. > > That ought to mean that any state can do it. > > Good luck to everyone preparing to take your bar exams! > > Elizabeth > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com From ashleejessandmark2012 at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 19:15:27 2013 From: ashleejessandmark2012 at gmail.com (Jess) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:15:27 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Google desktop Message-ID: Hi Ross, No, If my memory serves me correctly unlike newer verisions of windows XP doesn't have a built search box in the start menu. But, the other search box. Sent from Samsung mobile Ross Doerr wrote: >Hi Angie" >I'm using my old faithful XP Pro laptop. >I don't know if XP has a desktop search utility built in to it - I'll have >to check. >Ross > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Angie Matney" >To: "Blind Law Mailing List" >Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:54 AM >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Google desktop > > >> Hi Ross, >> >> What operating system are you using? I have found the built-in search >> in Vista (my home computer) and Windows 7 (my work machine) to be vary >> useful when I can only remember a name or a phrase in a file I need to >> find. >> >> Best, >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> On 3/5/13, Ross Doerr wrote: >>> Yesterday I posted a question regarding use of the google desktop >>> application as a means to retrieve files and documents. While it is a >>> handy >>> tool, I was having some trouble with it, and now I know why. >>> Google discontinued the support of the application back in 2011. >>> Does anyone else use a desktop search utility that is currently supported >>> that is put out by someone else? >>> I confess that a desktop utility like that is a very useful thing in my >>> practice. >>> Ross >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5650 - Release Date: 03/05/13 >> > > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ashleejessandmark2012%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 23:19:49 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 23:19:49 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Closings? Message-ID: Hi all I wonder what members practice is in dealing with closings. Thanks Ger From kingettr at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 00:40:47 2013 From: kingettr at gmail.com (Robert William Kingett) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer Message-ID: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> I didn't quite know who I should contact, so IÂ’d figured that IÂ’d contact you. I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blindÂ… at all. Their streaming service anyway. My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it would be cheaper for his blog writersÂ… AmericaÂ’s comedy.com. I don't get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or almost everything is closed captioning. The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. IÂ’d like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and while I don't have every email I sent themÂ… I can make YouTube demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is to the blind and the visually impaired. If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much for your time look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. *Robert Kingett's published work and media appearances * ** *Personal website of Robert Kingett * CONTACT ROBERT: *Cell: (850) 764-2161* *Fax: 206-984-0940* *SOCIAL MEDIA * Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WordPress Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter My latest comedy review: “The Motherfucker with the Hat” By Stephen Guirgis Get a signature like this. CLICK HERE. From tmeloy at fuse.net Wed Mar 6 01:14:54 2013 From: tmeloy at fuse.net (Timothy J. Meloy) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:14:54 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> References: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A96690E-7E15-4CC9-91D2-F584D81E7CE9@fuse.net> Hello Robert, My experience with Netflix is been quite different from yours. I primarily use an AppleTV with VoiceOver. Netflix is very accessible with that device. Also there are several gestures that make the Netflix app complicated but yet accessible on the iPhone. I have found that it is actually better on the iPad. Hope this is helpful. Best regards, TJ On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Robert William Kingett wrote: > I didn't quite know who I should contact, so I’d figured that I’d contact you. > > I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind… at all. Their streaming service anyway. > > My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it would be cheaper for his blog writers… America’s comedy.com. I don't get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. > > I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or almost everything is closed captioning. > > The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. > > I’d like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and while I don't have every email I sent them… I can make YouTube demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is to the blind and the visually impaired. > > If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much for your time > > look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. > > *Robert Kingett's published work and media appearances * > > > ** > > *Personal website of Robert Kingett * > > CONTACT ROBERT: > > *Cell: (850) 764-2161* > > *Fax: 206-984-0940* > > *SOCIAL MEDIA > * > > Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WordPress > Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter > My latest comedy review: “The Motherfucker with the Hat” By Stephen Guirgis > > Get a signature like this. CLICK HERE. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tmeloy%40fuse.net From steve.jacobson at visi.com Wed Mar 6 02:04:32 2013 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:04:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> Message-ID: I do not do a lot with Netflix streaming, but I've done a little and was able to get movies to play within the past year on a Windows 7 computer. Before going too far with this, I wonder if it would be worth going to our GUI-Talk list and asking how people are accessing NetFlix from Windows computers. There was a time when they implemented some inaccessible controls, but I thought that had been resolved. I'm not saying it is as easy as it could be, but if we're finding ways to access movies, it makes it harder to claim they are not accessible. Still, you could be running into difficulties I didn't have for some reason. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600, Robert William Kingett wrote: >I didn't quite know who I should contact, so I��d figured that I��d >contact you. >I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide array >of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is >Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind�� at all. Their >streaming service anyway. >My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it would >be cheaper for his blog writers�� America��s comedy.com. I don't get the >physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. >I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix >about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen >reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio >description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or almost >everything is closed captioning. >The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I >primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. >I��d like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and >while I don't have every email I sent them�� I can make YouTube >demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is to >the blind and the visually impaired. >If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much >for your time >look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. >*Robert Kingett's published work and media >appearances >* >** >*Personal website of Robert Kingett >* >CONTACT ROBERT: >*Cell: (850) 764-2161* >*Fax: 206-984-0940* >*SOCIAL MEDIA >* >Facebook Twitter > LinkedIn > WordPress > >Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, >MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter >My latest comedy review: ��The Motherfucker with the Hat�� By Stephen >Guirgis > > >Get a signature like this. > >CLICK HERE. > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From rjaquiss at earthlink.net Wed Mar 6 02:55:43 2013 From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (Robert Jaquiss) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:55:43 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: References: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002e01ce1a16$18f25360$4ad6fa20$@net> Hello: I just accessed a Netflix show today using a PC running XP, IE8 and JAWS 14. It takes a bit of practice, but not too difficult. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:05 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer I do not do a lot with Netflix streaming, but I've done a little and was able to get movies to play within the past year on a Windows 7 computer. Before going too far with this, I wonder if it would be worth going to our GUI-Talk list and asking how people are accessing NetFlix from Windows computers. There was a time when they implemented some inaccessible controls, but I thought that had been resolved. I'm not saying it is as easy as it could be, but if we're finding ways to access movies, it makes it harder to claim they are not accessible. Still, you could be running into difficulties I didn't have for some reason. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600, Robert William Kingett wrote: >I didn't quite know who I should contact, so Id figured that Id >contact you. >I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide >array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is >Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind at all. >Their streaming service anyway. >My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it >would be cheaper for his blog writers Americas comedy.com. I don't >get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. >I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix >about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen >reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio >description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or >almost everything is closed captioning. >The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I >primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. >Id like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and >while I don't have every email I sent them I can make YouTube >demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is >to the blind and the visually impaired. >If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much >for your time >look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. >*Robert Kingett's published work and media >ePAw1_IBFchglY>appearances >ePAw1_IBFchglY>* >** >*Personal website of Robert Kingett >* >CONTACT ROBERT: >*Cell: (850) 764-2161* >*Fax: 206-984-0940* >*SOCIAL MEDIA >* >Facebook Twitter > LinkedIn > WordPress > >Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, >MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter My latest comedy review: >The Motherfucker with the Hat By Stephen Guirgis >rgis/> > >Get a signature like this. >tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >CLICK HERE. >tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >visi.com From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 03:03:20 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 22:03:20 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: <002e01ce1a16$18f25360$4ad6fa20$@net> References: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> <002e01ce1a16$18f25360$4ad6fa20$@net> Message-ID: <930E3CD0-A19E-4F83-B0A1-2ADFE5CC241D@gmail.com> yeah, it works with jaws 13 and 14 for sure. they use a lot more graphics than links, so i end up hitting g a lot, but the virtual search works fine. you cant pick a different season of a show without a sighted person though. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 21:55, "Robert Jaquiss" wrote: > Hello: > > I just accessed a Netflix show today using a PC running XP, IE8 and > JAWS 14. It takes a bit of practice, but not too difficult. > > Regards, > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Jacobson > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:05 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer > > I do not do a lot with Netflix streaming, but I've done a little and was > able to get movies to play within the past year on a Windows 7 computer. > Before going too far with this, I wonder if it would be worth going to our > GUI-Talk list and asking how people are accessing NetFlix from Windows > computers. > There was a time when they implemented some inaccessible controls, but I > thought that had been resolved. I'm not saying it is as easy as it could > be, but if we're finding ways to access movies, it makes it harder to claim > they are not accessible. Still, you could be running into difficulties I > didn't have for some reason. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600, Robert William Kingett wrote: > >> I didn't quite know who I should contact, so Id figured that Id >> contact you. > >> I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide >> array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is >> Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind at all. >> Their streaming service anyway. > >> My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it >> would be cheaper for his blog writers Americas comedy.com. I don't >> get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. > >> I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix >> about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen >> reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio >> description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or >> almost everything is closed captioning. > >> The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I >> primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. > >> Id like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and >> while I don't have every email I sent them I can make YouTube >> demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is >> to the blind and the visually impaired. > >> If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much >> for your time > >> look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. > >> *Robert Kingett's published work and media >> > ePAw1_IBFchglY>appearances >> > ePAw1_IBFchglY>* > > >> ** > >> *Personal website of Robert Kingett >> * > >> CONTACT ROBERT: > >> *Cell: (850) 764-2161* > >> *Fax: 206-984-0940* > >> *SOCIAL MEDIA >> * > >> Facebook Twitter >> LinkedIn >> WordPress >> >> Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, >> MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter My latest comedy review: >> The Motherfucker with the Hat By Stephen Guirgis >> > rgis/> >> >> Get a signature like this. >> > tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% > 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >> CLICK HERE. >> > tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% > 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >> visi.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 03:26:51 2013 From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:26:51 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: <930E3CD0-A19E-4F83-B0A1-2ADFE5CC241D@gmail.com> References: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> <002e01ce1a16$18f25360$4ad6fa20$@net> <930E3CD0-A19E-4F83-B0A1-2ADFE5CC241D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've only played with the iPhone app a little bit, but I've been able to make it play shows without really any trouble. Like I said, though, my experience with it is very limited. Perhaps I will play with it a little bit more the next few days and see how things are once I get a little bit more in depth. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Sybren Hoekstra wrote: > yeah, it works with jaws 13 and 14 for sure. they use a lot more graphics than links, so i end up hitting g a lot, but the virtual search works fine. you cant pick a different season of a show without a sighted person though. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 21:55, "Robert Jaquiss" wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I just accessed a Netflix show today using a PC running XP, IE8 and >> JAWS 14. It takes a bit of practice, but not too difficult. >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve >> Jacobson >> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:05 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer >> >> I do not do a lot with Netflix streaming, but I've done a little and was >> able to get movies to play within the past year on a Windows 7 computer. >> Before going too far with this, I wonder if it would be worth going to our >> GUI-Talk list and asking how people are accessing NetFlix from Windows >> computers. >> There was a time when they implemented some inaccessible controls, but I >> thought that had been resolved. I'm not saying it is as easy as it could >> be, but if we're finding ways to access movies, it makes it harder to claim >> they are not accessible. Still, you could be running into difficulties I >> didn't have for some reason. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600, Robert William Kingett wrote: >> >>> I didn't quite know who I should contact, so Id figured that Id >>> contact you. >> >>> I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide >>> array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is >>> Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind at all. >>> Their streaming service anyway. >> >>> My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it >>> would be cheaper for his blog writers Americas comedy.com. I don't >>> get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. >> >>> I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix >>> about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen >>> reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio >>> description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or >>> almost everything is closed captioning. >> >>> The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I >>> primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. >> >>> Id like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and >>> while I don't have every email I sent them I can make YouTube >>> demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is >>> to the blind and the visually impaired. >> >>> If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much >>> for your time >> >>> look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. >> >>> *Robert Kingett's published work and media >>> >> ePAw1_IBFchglY>appearances >>> >> ePAw1_IBFchglY>* >> >> >>> ** >> >>> *Personal website of Robert Kingett >>> * >> >>> CONTACT ROBERT: >> >>> *Cell: (850) 764-2161* >> >>> *Fax: 206-984-0940* >> >>> *SOCIAL MEDIA >>> * >> >>> Facebook Twitter >>> LinkedIn >>> WordPress >>> >>> Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, >>> MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter My latest comedy review: >>> The Motherfucker with the Hat By Stephen Guirgis >>> >> rgis/> >>> >>> Get a signature like this. >>> >> tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% >> 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >>> CLICK HERE. >>> >> tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% >> 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >>> visi.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com From pattichang at att.net Wed Mar 6 13:19:26 2013 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang Esq.) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 07:19:26 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer In-Reply-To: References: <5136908F.5030502@gmail.com> <002e01ce1a16$18f25360$4ad6fa20$@net> <930E3CD0-A19E-4F83-B0A1-2ADFE5CC241D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Appleviz has a good podcast. Patti S. Gregory-Chang NFBI President NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Kirt wrote: > I've only played with the iPhone app a little bit, but I've been able to make it play shows without really any trouble. Like I said, though, my experience with it is very limited. Perhaps I will play with it a little bit more the next few days and see how things are once I get a little bit more in depth. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Sybren Hoekstra wrote: > >> yeah, it works with jaws 13 and 14 for sure. they use a lot more graphics than links, so i end up hitting g a lot, but the virtual search works fine. you cant pick a different season of a show without a sighted person though. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 21:55, "Robert Jaquiss" wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I just accessed a Netflix show today using a PC running XP, IE8 and >>> JAWS 14. It takes a bit of practice, but not too difficult. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve >>> Jacobson >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:05 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] netflix and help finding a lawyer >>> >>> I do not do a lot with Netflix streaming, but I've done a little and was >>> able to get movies to play within the past year on a Windows 7 computer. >>> Before going too far with this, I wonder if it would be worth going to our >>> GUI-Talk list and asking how people are accessing NetFlix from Windows >>> computers. >>> There was a time when they implemented some inaccessible controls, but I >>> thought that had been resolved. I'm not saying it is as easy as it could >>> be, but if we're finding ways to access movies, it makes it harder to claim >>> they are not accessible. Still, you could be running into difficulties I >>> didn't have for some reason. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:40:47 -0600, Robert William Kingett wrote: >>> >>>> I didn't quite know who I should contact, so Id figured that Id >>>> contact you. >>> >>>> I'm an audio description critic, and I've been published in a wide >>>> array of media and things of that nature. One place I get my content is >>>> Netflix, the trouble is, it isn't accessible to the blind at all. >>>> Their streaming service anyway. >>> >>>> My editor set me up with a streaming account because he assumed it >>>> would be cheaper for his blog writers Americas comedy.com. I don't >>>> get the physical DVDs and I can't pay for that service myself. >>> >>>> I've sent countless tweets, and made several telephone calls to Netflix >>>> about the fact that their online player isn't accessible to screen >>>> reading technology, at all, and I've also noted the lack of audio >>>> description on any of their streaming videos, when everything, or >>>> almost everything is closed captioning. >>> >>>> The iPhone application isn't even accessible with voiceover but I >>>> primarily use a windows computer with the screen reader NVDA. >>> >>>> Id like to propose a lawsuit. I've been asking for three years, and >>>> while I don't have every email I sent them I can make YouTube >>>> demonstrations; I can show people how inaccessible the web service is >>>> to the blind and the visually impaired. >>> >>>> If you'd like to see my articles, they are below. Thank you very much >>>> for your time >>> >>>> look below for writing samples as well as contact and website links. >>> >>>> *Robert Kingett's published work and media >>>> >>> ePAw1_IBFchglY>appearances >>>> >>> ePAw1_IBFchglY>* >>> >>> >>>> ** >>> >>>> *Personal website of Robert Kingett >>>> * >>> >>>> CONTACT ROBERT: >>> >>>> *Cell: (850) 764-2161* >>> >>>> *Fax: 206-984-0940* >>> >>>> *SOCIAL MEDIA >>>> * >>> >>>> Facebook Twitter >>>> LinkedIn >>>> WordPress >>>> >>>> Contact me: Google Talk/kingettspeaks, Skype/kingettblue, >>>> MSN/weirdwriter at live.com, AIM/wwriterwriter My latest comedy review: >>>> The Motherfucker with the Hat By Stephen Guirgis >>>> >>> rgis/> >>>> >>>> Get a signature like this. >>>> >>> tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% >>> 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >>>> CLICK HERE. >>>> >>> tamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension% >>> 26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_17> >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40 >>>> visi.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From dravant at ameritech.net Thu Mar 7 23:55:36 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:55:36 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. References: Message-ID: <475B84F9-0B64-46B2-8869-CC2235A41AE8@ameritech.net> Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Subject: FW: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. > Date: March 7, 2013 11:32:33 AM CST > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Stratton, Michael" > > From: > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:58 PM > To: Stratton, Michael > Subject: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Forward to your list servs > > > ************************************************************************************************************* > > The federal ALJ examination is now OPEN. Here is the link for all applicants. > > > > https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600 > > > > Applicants may apply between now (March 5, 2013) and Friday, March 15, 2013, when the application period closes. Applicants should set aside at least a few hours to gather the necessary background information and complete the application. Applicants are reminded to pay close attention to all requested personal information as, in the past, missing bar numbers and other minor errors have resulted in rejection of the application. Details regarding minimum experience and evaluation factors are on the website listed above. > > > > Please see that this notice is distributed to local and state bar associations, and Diversity Committee members are requested to see that this information reaches the appropriate minority bar associations for IMMEDIATE distribution. We would very much like to see more diversity among the federal ALJ ranks. > > > > This is a VERY LIMITED window, less than the period promised to us by OPM during the process leading to the new examination. Applicants must move quickly. > > > Sent from my iPad > > Michael J. Stratton > Administrative Coordinator > Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 > American Bar Association (ABA) > 740 15th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20005-1022 > > T: 202.662.1571 > F: 202.442.3439 > michael.stratton at americanbar.org > http://www.americanbar.org/disability > > From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Mar 8 00:29:43 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:29:43 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question Message-ID: <022801ce1b94$07f80e90$17e82bb0$@sbgaal.com> Hellow All, I am having trouble in outlook getting the undo command to work. Any suggestions? I also am having trouble with my iphone using voice over when I make a call and the message asks me to put in an extension getting the keypad to take the extension no. Any suggestions much appreciated. Thanks! Shannon Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:56 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Subject: FW: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. > Date: March 7, 2013 11:32:33 AM CST > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail > list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, > "Stratton, Michael" > > From: > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:58 PM > To: Stratton, Michael > Subject: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Forward to your list > servs > > > ********************************************************************** > *************************************** > > The federal ALJ examination is now OPEN. Here is the link for all applicants. > > > > https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600 bs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600> > > > > Applicants may apply between now (March 5, 2013) and Friday, March 15, 2013, when the application period closes. Applicants should set aside at least a few hours to gather the necessary background information and complete the application. Applicants are reminded to pay close attention to all requested personal information as, in the past, missing bar numbers and other minor errors have resulted in rejection of the application. Details regarding minimum experience and evaluation factors are on the website listed above. > > > > Please see that this notice is distributed to local and state bar associations, and Diversity Committee members are requested to see that this information reaches the appropriate minority bar associations for IMMEDIATE distribution. We would very much like to see more diversity among the federal ALJ ranks. > > > > This is a VERY LIMITED window, less than the period promised to us by OPM during the process leading to the new examination. Applicants must move quickly. > > > Sent from my iPad > > Michael J. Stratton > Administrative Coordinator > Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 American Bar > Association (ABA) > 740 15th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20005-1022 > > T: 202.662.1571 > F: 202.442.3439 > michael.stratton at americanbar.org > http://www.americanbar.org/disability > > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Fri Mar 8 12:35:23 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 07:35:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question In-Reply-To: <022801ce1b94$07f80e90$17e82bb0$@sbgaal.com> References: <022801ce1b94$07f80e90$17e82bb0$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <003201ce1bf9$6796b620$36c42260$@verizon.net> Hi Shannon, I have similar problems with my cell- One partial work around is to enter extension numbers after telephone numbers preceded by an X. For example, 714-383-1000 X140. listen to the number when you bring up the contact, then enter the phone number manually and the extension when appropriate. You lose auto dialing, but at least you have the extension recorded in your phone contact. Alternatively, you can go down to the mobile 2 line and enter the extension separately there. That allows you to retain the automatic dialing for the phone number and keep a note for yourself of the extension. Hope that helps. Best Cathryn Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:30 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question Hellow All, I am having trouble in outlook getting the undo command to work. Any suggestions? I also am having trouble with my iphone using voice over when I make a call and the message asks me to put in an extension getting the keypad to take the extension no. Any suggestions much appreciated. Thanks! Shannon Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:56 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Subject: FW: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. > Date: March 7, 2013 11:32:33 AM CST > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail > list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, > "Stratton, Michael" > > From: > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:58 PM > To: Stratton, Michael > Subject: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Forward to your list > servs > > > ********************************************************************** > *************************************** > > The federal ALJ examination is now OPEN. Here is the link for all applicants. > > > > https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600 bs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600> > > > > Applicants may apply between now (March 5, 2013) and Friday, March 15, 2013, when the application period closes. Applicants should set aside at least a few hours to gather the necessary background information and complete the application. Applicants are reminded to pay close attention to all requested personal information as, in the past, missing bar numbers and other minor errors have resulted in rejection of the application. Details regarding minimum experience and evaluation factors are on the website listed above. > > > > Please see that this notice is distributed to local and state bar associations, and Diversity Committee members are requested to see that this information reaches the appropriate minority bar associations for IMMEDIATE distribution. We would very much like to see more diversity among the federal ALJ ranks. > > > > This is a VERY LIMITED window, less than the period promised to us by > OPM during the process leading to the new examination. Applicants must move quickly. > > > Sent from my iPad > > Michael J. Stratton > Administrative Coordinator > Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 American Bar > Association (ABA) > 740 15th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20005-1022 > > T: 202.662.1571 > F: 202.442.3439 > michael.stratton at americanbar.org > http://www.americanbar.org/disability > > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Mar 8 13:47:12 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:47:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question In-Reply-To: <003201ce1bf9$6796b620$36c42260$@verizon.net> References: <022801ce1b94$07f80e90$17e82bb0$@sbgaal.com> <003201ce1bf9$6796b620$36c42260$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <001101ce1c03$6fe2feb0$4fa8fc10$@wiennergould.com> With the cell, I've been able to get around that by swiping my index finger across the keyboard a couple of times until the keyboard pops up. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathryn Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 7:35 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question Hi Shannon, I have similar problems with my cell- One partial work around is to enter extension numbers after telephone numbers preceded by an X. For example, 714-383-1000 X140. listen to the number when you bring up the contact, then enter the phone number manually and the extension when appropriate. You lose auto dialing, but at least you have the extension recorded in your phone contact. Alternatively, you can go down to the mobile 2 line and enter the extension separately there. That allows you to retain the automatic dialing for the phone number and keep a note for yourself of the extension. Hope that helps. Best Cathryn Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:30 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] jaws and outlook question Hellow All, I am having trouble in outlook getting the undo command to work. Any suggestions? I also am having trouble with my iphone using voice over when I make a call and the message asks me to put in an extension getting the keypad to take the extension no. Any suggestions much appreciated. Thanks! Shannon Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, TX 79401 Phone: 763-3999 Fax: 749-3752 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:56 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Subject: FW: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. > Date: March 7, 2013 11:32:33 AM CST > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail > list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, > "Stratton, Michael" > > From: > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:58 PM > To: Stratton, Michael > Subject: ALJ Examination open - Very short time. Forward to your list > servs > > > ********************************************************************** > *************************************** > > The federal ALJ examination is now OPEN. Here is the link for all applicants. > > > > https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600 bs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/338848600> > > > > Applicants may apply between now (March 5, 2013) and Friday, March 15, 2013, when the application period closes. Applicants should set aside at least a few hours to gather the necessary background information and complete the application. Applicants are reminded to pay close attention to all requested personal information as, in the past, missing bar numbers and other minor errors have resulted in rejection of the application. Details regarding minimum experience and evaluation factors are on the website listed above. > > > > Please see that this notice is distributed to local and state bar associations, and Diversity Committee members are requested to see that this information reaches the appropriate minority bar associations for IMMEDIATE distribution. We would very much like to see more diversity among the federal ALJ ranks. > > > > This is a VERY LIMITED window, less than the period promised to us by > OPM during the process leading to the new examination. Applicants must move quickly. > > > Sent from my iPad > > Michael J. Stratton > Administrative Coordinator > Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 American Bar > Association (ABA) > 740 15th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20005-1022 > > T: 202.662.1571 > F: 202.442.3439 > michael.stratton at americanbar.org > http://www.americanbar.org/disability > > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From emrene at earthlink.net Fri Mar 8 20:23:16 2013 From: emrene at earthlink.net (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:23:16 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal ALJ Exam Message-ID: <8937614E883D4C2EAB453054CB40D095@elizabethrene> Hi all, I just tried to link to the website listed in this issue's announcement and found the USAJobs page closed. But I then used my iPhone to find the same thing, searching for "USA Jobs Administrative Law Judge," and was taken right to the spot. I also got an armload of other information about this position, the exam, and its history by searching "Federal ALJ Exam." Highly recommended reading. One good thing about this new register and exam is that all timely applications will be considered. In the past, the register would close on the day of the submission of the 900th application, whenever that occurred. A couple of other caveats: You have to have completed a full seven years of active litigation practice. This is described on the announcement, as well as non-qualifying experience. Also, your license has to be active at the time you apply, throughout the application process, and while your name remains on the register of successful examinees. The exam includes an in-person interview by a "panel of experts" in Washington D.C., and a performance exam, before that, in either San Francisco, Chicago, or a third location I've already forgotten. The announcement is exhaustive, and every detail counts. Applicants must choose among the vacancy locations listed on the announcement to qualify for the register. AS I recall, the locations posted this time are Santa Barbara, Cal., Denver, Col, Hartford, Conn., and Miami or Tampa, Florida. But other registers can include U.S. territories, e.g. Puerto Rico. Even though I meet the experience qualifications, I won't be in the running for this register because my current bar exam scores won't come in, (assuming I pass!) until late April, and formal readmission won't happen until some time in May. The absolute deadline for these Federal ALJ applications is March 15. That's next Friday. The application is long and complicated, and is supposed to take the average person at least one full day. But the job itself, the salary and benefits, and apparently great job security, may make the work and stress connected with the process well worth the effort, especially for veterans, who get 5 to 10 extra points. The minimum score is 60 out of 100. I hope one of us undertakes this, and gets hired. Good luck. Elizabeth From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 8 21:16:21 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:16:21 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Federal ALJ positions Message-ID: <001b01ce1c42$2ec736f0$8c55a4d0$@sbcglobal.net> Elizabeth: I hate to always be the cynic, but those who get the most extra points in competing for these jobs, are those who are extremely well connected in the political or corporate worlds. Regardless of one's "qualifications", one best be well connected to have any hope at getting one of these politically appointed jobs. Dan McBride Fort Worth, Texas From rothmanjd at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 23:45:03 2013 From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:45:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] NABL Seminar Via Conference Call 3-25-13 Message-ID: <03e701ce1c56$f51e1e40$df5a5ac0$@gmail.com> Blind Justice: How to Get a Federal Job Introducing the next session in the "Blind Justice" lawyering topics and skills seminar series, hosted by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. The next seminar on practicing law and finding employment as blind attorneys will take place on Monday, March 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time and 12:00 PM Pacific Time via teleconference. This session will be complementary. Attorneys who have navigated the federal job market will share their experiences, tips, and tricks on landing federal jobs. The seminar will highlight the requirements, benefits, and drawbacks of using the Schedule A Hiring Authority for securing federal employment. To register, please send an email to Ronza Othman at rothmanjd at gmail.com. Once you have registered, you will receive the conference call-in information and seminar materials. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Ronza Othman at 708-829-0523 or rothmanjd at gmail.com. Regards, The NABL Board From mikefry79 at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 23:58:15 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:58:15 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] NABL Seminar Via Conference Call 3-25-13 In-Reply-To: <03e701ce1c56$f51e1e40$df5a5ac0$@gmail.com> References: <03e701ce1c56$f51e1e40$df5a5ac0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is a wonderful topic. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you to everyone that is organizing this event or participating in it. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Ronza Othman wrote: > Blind Justice: How to Get a Federal Job > > > > Introducing the next session in the "Blind Justice" lawyering topics and > skills seminar series, hosted by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. > > > > The next seminar on practicing law and finding employment as blind > attorneys > will take place on Monday, March 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time and 12:00 > PM Pacific Time via teleconference. This session will be complementary. > Attorneys who have navigated the federal job market will share their > experiences, tips, and tricks on landing federal jobs. The seminar will > highlight the requirements, benefits, and drawbacks of using the Schedule A > Hiring Authority for securing federal employment. > > > > To register, please send an email to Ronza Othman at rothmanjd at gmail.com. > Once you have registered, you will receive the conference call-in > information and seminar materials. > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact Ronza Othman at > 708-829-0523 > or rothmanjd at gmail.com. > > > > Regards, > > > > The NABL Board > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 9 00:46:56 2013 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:46:56 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] NABL Seminar Via Conference Call 3-25-13 In-Reply-To: <03e701ce1c56$f51e1e40$df5a5ac0$@gmail.com> References: <03e701ce1c56$f51e1e40$df5a5ac0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15BC70F6CE2A4F22A17501800728EA1E@Spike> will the seminar be recorded and archived for those who can't participate at that time? Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronza Othman" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:45 PM Subject: [blindlaw] NABL Seminar Via Conference Call 3-25-13 > Blind Justice: How to Get a Federal Job > > > > Introducing the next session in the "Blind Justice" lawyering topics and > skills seminar series, hosted by the National Association of Blind > Lawyers. > > > > The next seminar on practicing law and finding employment as blind > attorneys > will take place on Monday, March 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time and > 12:00 > PM Pacific Time via teleconference. This session will be complementary. > Attorneys who have navigated the federal job market will share their > experiences, tips, and tricks on landing federal jobs. The seminar will > highlight the requirements, benefits, and drawbacks of using the Schedule > A > Hiring Authority for securing federal employment. > > > > To register, please send an email to Ronza Othman at rothmanjd at gmail.com. > Once you have registered, you will receive the conference call-in > information and seminar materials. > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact Ronza Othman at > 708-829-0523 > or rothmanjd at gmail.com. > > > > Regards, > > > > The NABL Board > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From paulharpur at gmail.com Sat Mar 9 19:08:04 2013 From: paulharpur at gmail.com (Paul Harpur) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 05:08:04 +1000 Subject: [blindlaw] Powerpoint answer Message-ID: <0f3601ce1cf9$7028f590$507ae0b0$@gmail.com> Hi all, Ever had trouble using Power Point as a presenter using a screen reader? I thought list members might find the suggestion by our IT person golden. I used to put my material in the notes section and try to flick around. Then Vu, the IT person, pointed out that I don't need to make the text visible. The text for the audience needs to be black writing on a white background. But does my notes need to be in black? No. If I put my notes in white on a white background then the audience cannot see them. I obviously use a screen reader that reads the white on white text no worries! A few tips: . Put the notes at size font 1. This enables lots of text to be included without distorting the look of the page. . Make two copies. Make a presenter's version with notes and an audience copy without notes. This enables you to upload or distribute the slides without the risk some smart arse will highlight and change the colour of the writing and see all your notes. Have a great strong and high five to IT Vu. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sat Mar 9 19:19:47 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 19:19:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Message-ID: Hi all I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access these machines for scanning? The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. Help very much wanted. Ger From emrene at earthlink.net Sat Mar 9 20:10:01 2013 From: emrene at earthlink.net (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:10:01 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam Message-ID: Just a word about politicization of federal jobs, the ALJ exam in particular. The Internet reading I did brought some attention to previous criticism of the ALJ exam for this reason. Apparently the OPM has recognized this flaw and has tried to address it in developing the current test. But we all know we live in a political world. The question I want to raise is this. And maybe I have more than one question. Isn't the NFB a political organization? Aren't we a civil rights movement? Don't we have some clout with Congress? Aren't federal agencies trying to up their quotas of employees with disabilities (yes, pardon the Q word)? But there are some deeper questions too. As lawyers, and able lawyers, what are we doing sitting on our hands and complaining about the privileges of others with better connections? Who better than an able lawyer is able to make political or corporate connections? Isn't that supposed to be part of our skill set? So we're blind lawyers and part of a vastly underemployed minority. So what are we doing with our time and talent? And isn't it better to land a good job, or to have had a good run for the money, than to have lived and died with a good excuse on our lips? Other people have overcome prejudice, disability, family dysfunction, and their own self-doubt. Just listen to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. I made political connections in my 20s through the Minnesota Women's Political Caucus and in criminal justice circles by writing an exposé on conditions in the county jail when I didn't have a clue about what I was doing. I was the blind daughter of laborers with eighth grade educations who thought I was too big for myself. That was before law school. My point is that we have to stop blaming our blindness, the unfairness of the world, our own weaknesses, and anything else and go for what we want. No one else will do it for us. And if you think this sounds self-righteous, know that I got kicked flat by the prejudice in the church that I loved and have taken a long, long time to stand up again. But one has to stand up. Sure, there'll always be someone better skilled or better connected who may beat us. But the ones who never get a chance are the ones who never try. Sorry for the diatribe. And best to all, Elizabeth From dravant at ameritech.net Sat Mar 9 20:38:55 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:38:55 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DDF9100-A136-4B21-8042-245606E415FE@ameritech.net> Hello all, You can't get the appointment if you don't apply. So if you believe your qualified, and don't mind going through a rigorous process, then apply! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "Elizabeth Rene" wrote: > Just a word about politicization of federal jobs, the ALJ exam in particular. > > The Internet reading I did brought some attention to previous criticism of the ALJ exam for this reason. Apparently the OPM has recognized this flaw and has tried to address it in developing the current test. But we all know we live in a political world. > > The question I want to raise is this. And maybe I have more than one question. > > Isn't the NFB a political organization? Aren't we a civil rights movement? Don't we have some clout with Congress? Aren't federal agencies trying to up their quotas of employees with disabilities (yes, pardon the Q word)? > > But there are some deeper questions too. As lawyers, and able lawyers, what are we doing sitting on our hands and complaining about the privileges of others with better connections? Who better than an able lawyer is able to make political or corporate connections? Isn't that supposed to be part of our skill set? > > So we're blind lawyers and part of a vastly underemployed minority. So what are we doing with our time and talent? > > And isn't it better to land a good job, or to have had a good run for the money, than to have lived and died with a good excuse on our lips? > > Other people have overcome prejudice, disability, family dysfunction, and their own self-doubt. Just listen to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. > > I made political connections in my 20s through the Minnesota Women's Political Caucus and in criminal justice circles by writing an exposé on conditions in the county jail when I didn't have a clue about what I was doing. I was the blind daughter of laborers with eighth grade educations who thought I was too big for myself. That was before law school. > > My point is that we have to stop blaming our blindness, the unfairness of the world, our own weaknesses, and anything else and go for what we want. No one else will do it for us. And if you think this sounds self-righteous, know that I got kicked flat by the prejudice in the church that I loved and have taken a long, long time to stand up again. > > But one has to stand up. > > Sure, there'll always be someone better skilled or better connected who may beat us. But the ones who never get a chance are the ones who never try. > > Sorry for the diatribe. > > And best to all, > > Elizabeth > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dravant%40ameritech.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 10 02:16:24 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:16:24 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001601ce1d35$43c63b20$cb52b160$@sbcglobal.net> Elizabeth: With all due respect, I believe you missed my point about political connections and jobs. The point I was making applies to all persons seeking those jobs, not just the blind and disabled. A well qualified person that is perfectly healthy and possessing absolutely no disabilities, had best have a really high level connection to have any hope of getting such a job. The issue is one of political connections. The issue has absolutely nothing to do with disabilities. And I can guarantee you that there is not, nor will there ever be, any law passed that prevents the politicians from utilizing their influence for the benefit of their family and friends. Notice that they always exempt themselves from all the rules that you and I must follow, such as Obama care. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:10 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam Just a word about politicization of federal jobs, the ALJ exam in particular. The Internet reading I did brought some attention to previous criticism of the ALJ exam for this reason. Apparently the OPM has recognized this flaw and has tried to address it in developing the current test. But we all know we live in a political world. The question I want to raise is this. And maybe I have more than one question. Isn't the NFB a political organization? Aren't we a civil rights movement? Don't we have some clout with Congress? Aren't federal agencies trying to up their quotas of employees with disabilities (yes, pardon the Q word)? But there are some deeper questions too. As lawyers, and able lawyers, what are we doing sitting on our hands and complaining about the privileges of others with better connections? Who better than an able lawyer is able to make political or corporate connections? Isn't that supposed to be part of our skill set? So we're blind lawyers and part of a vastly underemployed minority. So what are we doing with our time and talent? And isn't it better to land a good job, or to have had a good run for the money, than to have lived and died with a good excuse on our lips? Other people have overcome prejudice, disability, family dysfunction, and their own self-doubt. Just listen to Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. I made political connections in my 20s through the Minnesota Women's Political Caucus and in criminal justice circles by writing an exposé on conditions in the county jail when I didn't have a clue about what I was doing. I was the blind daughter of laborers with eighth grade educations who thought I was too big for myself. That was before law school. My point is that we have to stop blaming our blindness, the unfairness of the world, our own weaknesses, and anything else and go for what we want. No one else will do it for us. And if you think this sounds self-righteous, know that I got kicked flat by the prejudice in the church that I loved and have taken a long, long time to stand up again. But one has to stand up. Sure, there'll always be someone better skilled or better connected who may beat us. But the ones who never get a chance are the ones who never try. Sorry for the diatribe. And best to all, Elizabeth _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From taiablas at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 14:55:52 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:55:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> Ger and all: Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is compatible with this software. More information can be found at: http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/enus.h tml I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an overview below: With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. > see multimedia demo Key Features │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM To: BCAB Discussion List Cc: blindlaw Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Hi all I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access these machines for scanning? The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. Help very much wanted. Ger _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 15:17:17 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:17:17 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Will it do scanning? On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: > Ger and all: > > Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users access > to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic copying > tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is compatible with > this software. More information can be found at: > http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/enus.h > tml > > I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an > overview below: > > With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the public-have > easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers and multifunction > printers. This assistive technology is an alternative to the standard > touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant software helps everyone-especially > people who are wheelchair users, blind or visually impaired-to easily > program copy jobs and make copies. >> see multimedia demo > Key Features > │Improves accessibility to copying features > │Enlarged on-screen user interface provides an alternative to the standard > touchscreen user interface > │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program features > │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user through the > copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, collating and > two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are left open or if a > paper tray is empty (only available in English) > > Tai > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM > To: BCAB Discussion List > Cc: blindlaw > Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch > Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Hi all > > I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot more > quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access these > machines for scanning? > > The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. > > We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. > > Help very much wanted. > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From taiablas at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 15:34:28 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:34:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> I'm not sure. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Will it do scanning? On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: > Ger and all: > > Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users > access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic > copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is > compatible with this software. More information can be found at: > http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ > enus.h > tml > > I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an > overview below: > > With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the > public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers > and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an > alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant > software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, > blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >> see multimedia demo > Key Features > │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user > interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user > interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program > features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user > through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, > collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are > left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) > > Tai > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM > To: BCAB Discussion List > Cc: blindlaw > Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Hi all > > I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot > more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access > these machines for scanning? > > The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. > > We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. > > Help very much wanted. > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Mon Mar 11 13:59:18 2013 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:59:18 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use to operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a touchscreen multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this to work. Good luck, Will -----Original Message----- From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material I'm not sure. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Will it do scanning? On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: > Ger and all: > > Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users > access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic > copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is > compatible with this software. More information can be found at: > http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ > enus.h > tml > > I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an > overview below: > > With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the > public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers > and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an > alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant > software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, > blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >> see multimedia demo > Key Features > │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user > interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user > interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program > features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user > through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, > collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are > left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) > > Tai > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM > To: BCAB Discussion List > Cc: blindlaw > Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Hi all > > I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot > more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access > these machines for scanning? > > The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. > > We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. > > Help very much wanted. > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 14:04:01 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:04:01 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Will What kind of machine was this? Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use to > operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a touchscreen > multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software > from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required > walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me > to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's > software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this to > work. > Good luck, > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With Touch > Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > I'm not sure. > > Tai > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will it do scanning? > > On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >> Ger and all: >> >> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >> enus.h >> tml >> >> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >> overview below: >> >> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>> see multimedia demo >> Key Features >> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >> >> Tai >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >> To: BCAB Discussion List >> Cc: blindlaw >> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Hi all >> >> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >> these machines for scanning? >> >> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >> >> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >> >> Help very much wanted. >> >> Ger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Mon Mar 11 14:24:59 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:24:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com><00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <953F686F1235473387D45EE35BDA019D@Workstation> Brother machines have that software interface. In fact, I setup my Brother machine on the network all by myself. Their software is completely accessible. I don't have to keep walking back and forth because I have memorized a good number of the screens, so I have been able to scan and copy and fax without difficulty. But I should mention that my Brother has buttons though, not touch screen. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Will What kind of machine was this? Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use > to > operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a > touchscreen > multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software > from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required > walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me > to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's > software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this > to > work. > Good luck, > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With > Touch > Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > I'm not sure. > > Tai > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will it do scanning? > > On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >> Ger and all: >> >> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >> enus.h >> tml >> >> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >> overview below: >> >> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>> see multimedia demo >> Key Features >> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >> >> Tai >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >> To: BCAB Discussion List >> Cc: blindlaw >> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Hi all >> >> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >> these machines for scanning? >> >> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >> >> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >> >> Help very much wanted. >> >> Ger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 11 15:40:49 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. 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Senior Legal Counsel to the Lyceum Ø Patricia Sullivan, Executive Director and Founder of the Museum of Maritime Pets Ø Do make your check payable to the order of the Museum of Maritime Pets; and the check may be given at the door. However, RSVPs are mandiatory; they should be transmitted to the Lyceym at midatlanticlyceum at gmail.com with Gary as a copy at GLNorman15 at hotmail.com. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 16:21:58 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:21:58 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: <953F686F1235473387D45EE35BDA019D@Workstation> References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> <953F686F1235473387D45EE35BDA019D@Workstation> Message-ID: Rod Can you give me further details, like: 1. How much did this software interface cost? 2. What models did it work on? 3. How much could it scan, I would be looking to scan say 100 or 200 pages at a time, on occasion. This sounds like what I am after, potentially Ger On 3/11/13, Rod Alcidonis, Esq. wrote: > Brother machines have that software interface. In fact, I setup my Brother > machine on the network all by myself. Their software is completely > accessible. > > I don't have to keep walking back and forth because I have memorized a good > number of the screens, so I have been able to scan and copy and fax without > difficulty. But I should mention that my Brother has buttons though, not > touch screen. > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will > > What kind of machine was this? > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use >> to >> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a >> touchscreen >> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software >> from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required >> walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me >> to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's >> software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this >> to >> work. >> Good luck, >> Will >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With >> Touch >> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> I'm not sure. >> >> Tai >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard >> Sadlier >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will it do scanning? >> >> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>> Ger and all: >>> >>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >>> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >>> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >>> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >>> enus.h >>> tml >>> >>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>> overview below: >>> >>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >>> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>> see multimedia demo >>> Key Features >>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >>> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >>> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>> Cc: blindlaw >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >>> these machines for scanning? >>> >>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >>> >>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>> >>> Help very much wanted. >>> >>> Ger >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From ashleejessandmark2012 at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 16:28:20 2013 From: ashleejessandmark2012 at gmail.com (Jess Trask) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:28:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2013 2:20 PM, "Gerard Sadlier" wrote: > Hi all > > I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot > more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access > these machines for scanning? > > The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. > > We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. > > Help very much wanted. > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ashleejessandmark2012%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Mar 11 16:57:27 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:57:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Elder L. 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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:00:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com><00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com><953F686F1235473387D45EE35BDA019D@Workstation> Message-ID: I have a Brother MFC 8480DN. The software interface comes with the printer. The printer is designed to handle 50 pages at a time. If you want a higher capacity, you will have to purchase a more higher end printer. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 12:21 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Rod Can you give me further details, like: 1. How much did this software interface cost? 2. What models did it work on? 3. How much could it scan, I would be looking to scan say 100 or 200 pages at a time, on occasion. This sounds like what I am after, potentially Ger On 3/11/13, Rod Alcidonis, Esq. wrote: > Brother machines have that software interface. In fact, I setup my Brother > machine on the network all by myself. Their software is completely > accessible. > > I don't have to keep walking back and forth because I have memorized a > good > number of the screens, so I have been able to scan and copy and fax > without > difficulty. But I should mention that my Brother has buttons though, not > touch screen. > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will > > What kind of machine was this? > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use >> to >> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a >> touchscreen >> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with >> software >> from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It >> required >> walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled >> me >> to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's >> software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this >> to >> work. >> Good luck, >> Will >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With >> Touch >> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> I'm not sure. >> >> Tai >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard >> Sadlier >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will it do scanning? >> >> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>> Ger and all: >>> >>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >>> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >>> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >>> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >>> enus.h >>> tml >>> >>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>> overview below: >>> >>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >>> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>> see multimedia demo >>> Key Features >>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >>> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >>> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>> Cc: blindlaw >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >>> these machines for scanning? >>> >>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven >>> machines. >>> >>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>> >>> Help very much wanted. >>> >>> Ger >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Mon Mar 11 20:41:05 2013 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:41:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com><00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I don't remember. You may want to contact Xerox to ask about the machines in your office -- they may have something for the copiers you already have. -----Original Message----- From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Will What kind of machine was this? Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use to > operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a touchscreen > multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software > from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required > walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me > to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's > software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this to > work. > Good luck, > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With Touch > Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > I'm not sure. > > Tai > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will it do scanning? > > On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >> Ger and all: >> >> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >> enus.h >> tml >> >> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >> overview below: >> >> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>> see multimedia demo >> Key Features >> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >> >> Tai >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >> To: BCAB Discussion List >> Cc: blindlaw >> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Hi all >> >> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >> these machines for scanning? >> >> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >> >> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >> >> Help very much wanted. >> >> Ger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail .com > From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 21:12:06 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:12:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi William, I think we may have other makes of copier, in some parts of the office. To be honest, Xerox's offering seems an extrordinarily bad deal (though I accept that TY's experience may have been different). First you've got to pay a substantial sum for the programme to make it accessible. Now I accept assistive technology isn't always free but I hardly see the point of paying extra for one product, when another maker has gone to the trouble of accessible design - that would allmost create a perverse insentive. 2. I'm not sure from the blurb that Xerox's software allows me to scan and that is essentially what I want to do. Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Sorry, I don't remember. You may want to contact Xerox to ask about the > machines in your office -- they may have something for the copiers you > already have. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will > > What kind of machine was this? > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can use > to >> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a > touchscreen >> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with software >> from the vendor that could interface the machine on my laptop. It required >> walking back and forth from my computer to the machine alot but enabled me >> to access the equipment independently. Needless to say, the vendor's >> software will have to be accessible to your assistive technology for this > to >> work. >> Good luck, >> Will >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With > Touch >> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> I'm not sure. >> >> Tai >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard >> Sadlier >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will it do scanning? >> >> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>> Ger and all: >>> >>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind users >>> access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions on basic >>> copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your model is >>> compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistant/ >>> enus.h >>> tml >>> >>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>> overview below: >>> >>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox copiers >>> and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>> see multimedia demo >>> Key Features >>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as stapling, >>> collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when doors are >>> left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in English) >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>> Cc: blindlaw >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might access >>> these machines for scanning? >>> >>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >>> >>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>> >>> Help very much wanted. >>> >>> Ger >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail > .com >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From taiablas at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 21:21:31 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:21:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <011901ce1e9e$6710bfa0$35323ee0$@gmail.com> I understand where you are coming from. My employer purchased the add-on for other users and I used it on rare occasions to make copies. Were I to purchase a system, I would not want to pay extra for additional software to make it accessible. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:12 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Hi William, I think we may have other makes of copier, in some parts of the office. To be honest, Xerox's offering seems an extrordinarily bad deal (though I accept that TY's experience may have been different). First you've got to pay a substantial sum for the programme to make it accessible. Now I accept assistive technology isn't always free but I hardly see the point of paying extra for one product, when another maker has gone to the trouble of accessible design - that would allmost create a perverse insentive. 2. I'm not sure from the blurb that Xerox's software allows me to scan and that is essentially what I want to do. Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Sorry, I don't remember. You may want to contact Xerox to ask about > the machines in your office -- they may have something for the copiers > you already have. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, > With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will > > What kind of machine was this? > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can >> use > to >> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a > touchscreen >> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with >> software from the vendor that could interface the machine on my >> laptop. It required walking back and forth from my computer to the >> machine alot but enabled me to access the equipment independently. >> Needless to say, the vendor's software will have to be accessible to >> your assistive technology for this > to >> work. >> Good luck, >> Will >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo >> Copiers,With > Touch >> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> I'm not sure. >> >> Tai >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, >> With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will it do scanning? >> >> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>> Ger and all: >>> >>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind >>> users access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions >>> on basic copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your >>> model is compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistan >>> t/ >>> enus.h >>> tml >>> >>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>> overview below: >>> >>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox >>> copiers and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>> see multimedia demo >>> Key Features >>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as >>> stapling, collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when >>> doors are left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in >>> English) >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>> Cc: blindlaw >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might >>> access these machines for scanning? >>> >>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >>> >>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>> >>> Help very much wanted. >>> >>> Ger >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gma >>> il >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier >>> %4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmai >> l.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail > .com >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 21:37:27 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:37:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: <011901ce1e9e$6710bfa0$35323ee0$@gmail.com> References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com> <00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> <011901ce1e9e$6710bfa0$35323ee0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ty, I understand your position exactly. Buying a system and using a system which is already in situ are, as discussed, entirely different. Ger On 3/11/13, Tai Blas wrote: > I understand where you are coming from. My employer purchased the add-on for > other users and I used it on rare occasions to make copies. Were I to > purchase a system, I would not want to pay extra for additional software to > make it accessible. > > Tai > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:12 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With > Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Hi William, > > I think we may have other makes of copier, in some parts of the office. > > To be honest, Xerox's offering seems an extrordinarily bad deal (though I > accept that TY's experience may have been different). > > First you've got to pay a substantial sum for the programme to make it > accessible. Now I accept assistive technology isn't always free but I hardly > see the point of paying extra for one product, when another maker has gone > to the trouble of accessible design - that would allmost create a perverse > insentive. > 2. I'm not sure from the blurb that Xerox's software allows me to scan and > that is essentially what I want to do. > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Sorry, I don't remember. You may want to contact Xerox to ask about >> the machines in your office -- they may have something for the copiers >> you already have. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, >> With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will >> >> What kind of machine was this? >> >> Ger >> >> On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >>> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can >>> use >> to >>> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a >> touchscreen >>> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with >>> software from the vendor that could interface the machine on my >>> laptop. It required walking back and forth from my computer to the >>> machine alot but enabled me to access the equipment independently. >>> Needless to say, the vendor's software will have to be accessible to >>> your assistive technology for this >> to >>> work. >>> Good luck, >>> Will >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo >>> Copiers,With >> Touch >>> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> I'm not sure. >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, >>> With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Will it do scanning? >>> >>> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>>> Ger and all: >>>> >>>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind >>>> users access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions >>>> on basic copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your >>>> model is compatible with this software. More information can be found >>>> at: >>>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistan >>>> t/ >>>> enus.h >>>> tml >>>> >>>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>>> overview below: >>>> >>>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox >>>> copiers and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>>> see multimedia demo >>>> Key Features >>>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as >>>> stapling, collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when >>>> doors are left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in >>>> English) >>>> >>>> Tai >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Gerard Sadlier >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>>> Cc: blindlaw >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might >>>> access these machines for scanning? >>>> >>>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven >>>> machines. >>>> >>>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>>> >>>> Help very much wanted. >>>> >>>> Ger >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gma >>>> il >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier >>>> %4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmai >>> l.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail >> .com >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From law at cordovaesq.com Tue Mar 12 13:55:59 2013 From: law at cordovaesq.com (Marina Cordova) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:55:59 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Powerpoint answer In-Reply-To: <0f3601ce1cf9$7028f590$507ae0b0$@gmail.com> References: <0f3601ce1cf9$7028f590$507ae0b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01ce1f29$541c63f0$fc552bd0$@com> IT Vu and Paul, Thanks for the great suggestions!! Muchos gracias! Sincerely, Marina A. Cordova Attorney at Law 1000 Cordova Place, # 234 Santa Fe, NM 87505 Office (505) 467-8395 Fax (505) 467-8746 PLEASE NOTE MY CHANGE OF EMAIL ADDRESS TO: law at cordovaesq.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC Section 2510-2521, and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, copying, forwarding or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium, please so advise the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Harpur Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:08 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Powerpoint answer Hi all, Ever had trouble using Power Point as a presenter using a screen reader? I thought list members might find the suggestion by our IT person golden. I used to put my material in the notes section and try to flick around. Then Vu, the IT person, pointed out that I don't need to make the text visible. The text for the audience needs to be black writing on a white background. But does my notes need to be in black? No. If I put my notes in white on a white background then the audience cannot see them. I obviously use a screen reader that reads the white on white text no worries! A few tips: . Put the notes at size font 1. This enables lots of text to be included without distorting the look of the page. . Make two copies. Make a presenter's version with notes and an audience copy without notes. This enables you to upload or distribute the slides without the risk some smart arse will highlight and change the colour of the writing and see all your notes. Have a great strong and high five to IT Vu. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/law%40cordovaesq.com From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Tue Mar 12 18:04:08 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:04:08 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam References: <001601ce1d35$43c63b20$cb52b160$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4965A53EB7BA442CA2B3878035B6593F@victory2> Dear Mr. McBride: You wrote in part: "Notice that they always exempt themselves from all the rules that you and I must follow, such as Obama care." What is Obama care if I dare ask? Much thanks!! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From amatney at hf-law.com Wed Mar 13 15:41:23 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:41:23 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] iManage, JAWS 14, and braille Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252EC8B2@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Hello: I tried to post this yesterday, but I didn’t see it on either of my accounts that get mail from this list. Is anyone using FileSite with JAWS 14 and a braille display? I am experiencing an issue where search results and items in other folders are not shown on the display, though they are spoken. I did not have this issue with JAWS 13. I just installed JAWS 14 on Friday. I would appreciate hearing about any similar experiences from users of FileSite. Respectfully, Angela R. Matney, Esq., CIPP/US Hirschler Fleischer 725 Jackson Street, Suite 200 Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401 Tel: (540) 604-2117 Fax: (540) 604-2101 amatney at hf-law.com http://www.hf-law.com Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Mar 12 14:14:13 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:14:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] iManage/FileSite, JAWS 14, and braille Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252EC452@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Hello: Is anyone using FileSite with JAWS 14 and a braille display? I am experiencing an issue where search results and items in other folders are not shown on the display, though they are spoken. I did not have this issue with JAWS 13. I just installed JAWS 14 on Friday. I would appreciate hearing about any similar experiences from users of FileSite. Respectfully, Angela R. Matney, Esq., CIPP/US Hirschler Fleischer 725 Jackson Street, Suite 200 Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401 Tel: (540) 604-2117 Fax: (540) 604-2101 amatney at hf-law.com http://www.hf-law.com Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 13 15:44:47 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:44:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam In-Reply-To: <4965A53EB7BA442CA2B3878035B6593F@victory2> References: <001601ce1d35$43c63b20$cb52b160$@sbcglobal.net> <4965A53EB7BA442CA2B3878035B6593F@victory2> Message-ID: <007601ce2001$b11b3710$1351a530$@sbcglobal.net> Dear Olusegun: Obama Care is the phrase most commonly used in mass media when referring to the Affordable Health Care Act of 2009. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:04 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam Dear Mr. McBride: You wrote in part: "Notice that they always exempt themselves from all the rules that you and I must follow, such as Obama care." What is Obama care if I dare ask? Much thanks!! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rfarber at jw.com Wed Mar 13 18:32:07 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:32:07 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] iManage/FileSite, JAWS 14, and braille In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252EC452@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252EC452@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A2096061A68E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Angela - I don't use a braille display and am still using JAWS 13, but its good to know that someone else is using FileSite. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:14 AM To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' Subject: [blindlaw] iManage/FileSite, JAWS 14, and braille Hello: Is anyone using FileSite with JAWS 14 and a braille display? I am experiencing an issue where search results and items in other folders are not shown on the display, though they are spoken. I did not have this issue with JAWS 13. I just installed JAWS 14 on Friday. I would appreciate hearing about any similar experiences from users of FileSite. Respectfully, Angela R. Matney, Esq., CIPP/US Hirschler Fleischer 725 Jackson Street, Suite 200 Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401 Tel: (540) 604-2117 Fax: (540) 604-2101 amatney at hf-law.com http://www.hf-law.com Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Mar 13 19:23:31 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:23:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Porter Foster Rorick in Seattle seeking attorneys Message-ID: Link: http://pfrwa.com/hiring.pdf Text: Porter Foster Rorick LLP, an eleven-attorney, Seattle-based law firm representing school districts and other municipal entities, seeks one or more attorneys to join our growing firm. Our practice encompasses a broad spectrum of practice areas, including: labor and employment, collective bargaining, municipal authority, contracts, public procurement and construction, constitutional and civil rights, special education, land use, open public meetings, public records disclosure, student rights and administrative law. Attorneys at PFR enjoy the challenge and satisfaction of representing public sector clients in connection with a wide variety of legal issues, along with the benefits of a team-oriented, private firm environment. Candidates must possess at least four years relevant experience, strong academic and professional qualifications, excellent legal writing skills and the motivation, flexibility and commitment to develop and maintain expertise in multiple areas of the law. PFR is an equal opportunity employer, and we encourage qualified applicants from diverse backgrounds to apply. Salary depends on qualifications and experience. Please send application materials to info at pfrwa.com. From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Mar 13 22:32:54 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:32:54 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] RE federal ALJ exam References: <001601ce1d35$43c63b20$cb52b160$@sbcglobal.net><4965A53EB7BA442CA2B3878035B6593F@victory2> <007601ce2001$b11b3710$1351a530$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hmm, shame on the media and the politicians for distorting the facts!! Guess they need to keep us on our toes constantly. Much thanks for the explanations--I've not been following the media and political punditry much. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Thu Mar 14 14:32:35 2013 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Message-ID: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Thu Mar 14 14:54:49 2013 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:54:49 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC12338D678BA299@tiger> Yes. If you go to the file menu, and hit A for save as it will bring up the area that you can tab through to save the document in the format you want. You will have a list box that you can down arrow through to select. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Thu Mar 14 15:00:02 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:00:02 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I haven't found it too different...if you are working a new document, alt+F+A gives "save as", while ctrl+S saves something that is just updating a file already there. Just tab around to make sure you are in the right folder first, if that is needed. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Mar 14 15:02:03 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:02:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC12338D678BA299@tiger> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC12338D678BA299@tiger> Message-ID: <005a01ce20c4$e32ae0c0$a980a240$@wiennergould.com> You have to spend time setting all the options. Under the file menu is the options settings. You need to patiently go through all the options under all the tabs until you get things the way you want. I can tell you that windows 7 is very stable, and that there are lots of hotkeys for office 2010, if you take the time to learn them. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:55 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Yes. If you go to the file menu, and hit A for save as it will bring up the area that you can tab through to save the document in the format you want. You will have a list box that you can down arrow through to select. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12 .wi.us _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov Thu Mar 14 15:02:28 2013 From: Craig.Borne at cms.hhs.gov (Borne, Craig D. (CMS/OEOCR)) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:02:28 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63647EE0362EFA47A1C9E4AB13D79893284C4460@PL-EMSMB10.ees.hhs.gov> F 12 will also "save as." Craig -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I haven't found it too different...if you are working a new document, alt+F+A gives "save as", while ctrl+S saves something that is just updating a file already there. Just tab around to make sure you are in the right folder first, if that is needed. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craig.borne%40cms.hhs.gov From amatney at hf-law.com Thu Mar 14 15:23:00 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:23:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 14 15:53:29 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:53:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DA268C7A80@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DA268C7A80@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: I thought this article might be of relevance to this list since courtroom strategies are often a topic. Link: http://www.abajournal.com/advertorial/article/mobile_devices_in_court_benefits_and_pitfalls/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email Text: Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls Posted March 4, 2013 By Timothy W. Johnson Tablets and other mobile devices are beneficial in a court setting, not only for your preparedness and your argument but also for your back. These devices allow for quick access to legal research, notes, and exhibits, with the added ability to perform on-the-spot searches. They also allow you to quell anxiety over forgetting something, because you can bring your entire case file with you electronically. Finally, you do not need a courier to deliver the binders when traveling or a hand truck to get in and out of court. However, transitioning from paper to a tablet takes planning and practice and is never a substitute for preparation. My first tablet computer was the Motion Computing M1400, which ran a pen-enabled version of Microsoft(r) Windows XP. I bought a leather portfolio that allowed me to discreetly carry it and use it at the court's podium. My primary use was for oral arguments. I later began using the iPad(r). With Windows-based tablets, the applications that I found indispensable were Microsoft Office OneNote and Adobe(r) Acrobat. On the iPad, the WestlawNext(r) application was a game changer along with presentation software such as TrialPad from Lit Software. I have used these tablets and applications in motion practice and appellate oral arguments. WestlawNext was very helpful both at the beginning of my preparation and for the time leading up to and during my argument. WestlawNext allowed me to organize my research by creating folders that matched the issues of my case and placing the relevant cases in the corresponding folder. Using the WestlawNext interface, I highlighted the important facts and holdings in each case and added my notes. I focused my notes on statements that I might make in court about the case. I also made a folder for the cases cited by opposing counsel and reviewed those cases in the same manner. In preparing materials for oral arguments, I was able to quickly print out a list of the contents of each folder thereby giving me a list of cases relevant to the issues. I was also able to quickly download the cases in PDF format with my annotations. I used Microsoft OneNote to outline my arguments and associate any exhibits or evidence that I might refer to during arguments. After converting my outline to PDF, I used Adobe Acrobat to create internal and external links from references in my outline to PDFs of cases and exhibits. I also used Acrobat to convert scanned images into text, which could be searched and highlighted, and then made notes on the exhibits. Because this will be used in a time-critical environment, linking is important to more efficiently find the relevant portions of the documents from the outline or other documents. There is not enough time to review documents on the spot while a judge is waiting. Also last-minute changes to the outline and notes can be quickly adapted without the need for an offsite printing facility. This process has worked well for me in preparing for court and replacing the volume of three -ring binders. Be aware, however, of the perception from the bench as you transition away from paper and binders, because you may lose some non verbal communications channels. In the past, the court may have been alerted that you were trying to answer the question of how the Smith Doctrine applied to your case by flipping frantically through your binders, whereas now your "frantic finger flipping" on your tablet may go unnoticed by the court because the judge may not realize that you are looking through your notes and documents for the answer. The judge may see you as simply stumped and staring down at the podium in defeat. However, within seconds, you can find the relevant information and quickly respond to the judge. Using mobile technology in the courtroom helps you to be competitive by providing faster access to information and enabling you to be more adaptive to shifting your approach or focus at key moments in the case. BIO: Timothy W. Johnson is General Counsel for Peak Completion Technologies, Inc. and a former litigating attorney with the law firm of Matthews Lawson, PLLC in Houston, Texas. He has represented individual and corporate clients in federal and state courts, with an emphasis on intellectual property matters. Timothy can be reached at tim.johnson at peakcompletions.com. From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Mar 14 16:13:30 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:13:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DA268C7A80@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: <008501ce20ce$de72f270$9b58d750$@wiennergould.com> In my opinion, a small 12.5 notebook computer, such as the Lenovo x230 or the Toshiba Portege, is the best way for a blind person to handle just about anything in court. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:53 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 I thought this article might be of relevance to this list since courtroom strategies are often a topic. Link: http://www.abajournal.com/advertorial/article/mobile_devices_in_court_benefi ts_and_pitfalls/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_ema il Text: Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls Posted March 4, 2013 By Timothy W. Johnson Tablets and other mobile devices are beneficial in a court setting, not only for your preparedness and your argument but also for your back. These devices allow for quick access to legal research, notes, and exhibits, with the added ability to perform on-the-spot searches. They also allow you to quell anxiety over forgetting something, because you can bring your entire case file with you electronically. Finally, you do not need a courier to deliver the binders when traveling or a hand truck to get in and out of court. However, transitioning from paper to a tablet takes planning and practice and is never a substitute for preparation. My first tablet computer was the Motion Computing M1400, which ran a pen-enabled version of Microsoft(r) Windows XP. I bought a leather portfolio that allowed me to discreetly carry it and use it at the court's podium. My primary use was for oral arguments. I later began using the iPad(r). With Windows-based tablets, the applications that I found indispensable were Microsoft Office OneNote and Adobe(r) Acrobat. On the iPad, the WestlawNext(r) application was a game changer along with presentation software such as TrialPad from Lit Software. I have used these tablets and applications in motion practice and appellate oral arguments. WestlawNext was very helpful both at the beginning of my preparation and for the time leading up to and during my argument. WestlawNext allowed me to organize my research by creating folders that matched the issues of my case and placing the relevant cases in the corresponding folder. Using the WestlawNext interface, I highlighted the important facts and holdings in each case and added my notes. I focused my notes on statements that I might make in court about the case. I also made a folder for the cases cited by opposing counsel and reviewed those cases in the same manner. In preparing materials for oral arguments, I was able to quickly print out a list of the contents of each folder thereby giving me a list of cases relevant to the issues. I was also able to quickly download the cases in PDF format with my annotations. I used Microsoft OneNote to outline my arguments and associate any exhibits or evidence that I might refer to during arguments. After converting my outline to PDF, I used Adobe Acrobat to create internal and external links from references in my outline to PDFs of cases and exhibits. I also used Acrobat to convert scanned images into text, which could be searched and highlighted, and then made notes on the exhibits. Because this will be used in a time-critical environment, linking is important to more efficiently find the relevant portions of the documents from the outline or other documents. There is not enough time to review documents on the spot while a judge is waiting. Also last-minute changes to the outline and notes can be quickly adapted without the need for an offsite printing facility. This process has worked well for me in preparing for court and replacing the volume of three -ring binders. Be aware, however, of the perception from the bench as you transition away from paper and binders, because you may lose some non verbal communications channels. In the past, the court may have been alerted that you were trying to answer the question of how the Smith Doctrine applied to your case by flipping frantically through your binders, whereas now your "frantic finger flipping" on your tablet may go unnoticed by the court because the judge may not realize that you are looking through your notes and documents for the answer. The judge may see you as simply stumped and staring down at the podium in defeat. However, within seconds, you can find the relevant information and quickly respond to the judge. Using mobile technology in the courtroom helps you to be competitive by providing faster access to information and enabling you to be more adaptive to shifting your approach or focus at key moments in the case. BIO: Timothy W. Johnson is General Counsel for Peak Completion Technologies, Inc. and a former litigating attorney with the law firm of Matthews Lawson, PLLC in Houston, Texas. He has represented individual and corporate clients in federal and state courts, with an emphasis on intellectual property matters. Timothy can be reached at tim.johnson at peakcompletions.com. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Mar 14 17:34:58 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:34:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <1E9C94F88E824F85A2AAF603AE16358E@Workstation> Mike: I face this issue on a regular basis using a setup similar to yours. The terrible answer is that there is not really a solution. IT's a problem with Word. Restarting your PC should fix the problem temporarily though. This usually happens to me after a busy day of drafting and saving documents -- a lot of activity in Word. If you cannot restart at the time, just press yes and Alt F4 out of it when the save as dialog box comes up. Pretty annoying though. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Angela Matney Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:23 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Thu Mar 14 18:03:48 2013 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <1363284228.77351.YahooMailClassic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yes, it's trying to save changes to the normal template. Why's it doing that?  --- On Thu, 3/14/13, Angela Matney wrote: From: Angela Matney Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 11:23 AM Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice:  Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there  any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/m_b_gilmore%40yahoo.com From amatney at hf-law.com Thu Mar 14 18:11:14 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:11:14 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <1363284228.77351.YahooMailClassic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <1363284228.77351.YahooMailClassic@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED2FC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Honestly, I don't know why this happens. For me, it sometimes happens after I use my OCR software, but that has been an ongoing issue. Generally, mine tells me it has saved these changes and asks if I want to load the normal template. I tell it no. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Do you have an IT person at work who could help you? The normal template issue might not actually be related to JAWS. Good luck, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:04 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Yes, it's trying to save changes to the normal template. Why's it doing that?  --- On Thu, 3/14/13, Angela Matney wrote: From: Angela Matney Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 11:23 AM Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice:  Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I  hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there  any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/m_b_gilmore%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Thu Mar 14 19:23:23 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:23:23 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <1E9C94F88E824F85A2AAF603AE16358E@Workstation> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <1E9C94F88E824F85A2AAF603AE16358E@Workstation> Message-ID: <001801ce20e9$65c262f0$314728d0$@verizon.net> The training I had in Microsoft Word was to always hit "No" and ignore the message as you continue with the save. I've done that for years without problems. CB -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:35 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Mike: I face this issue on a regular basis using a setup similar to yours. The terrible answer is that there is not really a solution. IT's a problem with Word. Restarting your PC should fix the problem temporarily though. This usually happens to me after a busy day of drafting and saving documents -- a lot of activity in Word. If you cannot restart at the time, just press yes and Alt F4 out of it when the save as dialog box comes up. Pretty annoying though. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Angela Matney Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:23 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonisla w.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Mar 14 20:49:51 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:49:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 In-Reply-To: <001801ce20e9$65c262f0$314728d0$@verizon.net> References: <1363271555.5241.YahooMailClassic@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472252ED215@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><1E9C94F88E824F85A2AAF603AE16358E@Workstation> <001801ce20e9$65c262f0$314728d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Yes, that's what I meant to write. Say no, not yes to the do you want to save question. Sorry about that. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Cathryn Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:23 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 The training I had in Microsoft Word was to always hit "No" and ignore the message as you continue with the save. I've done that for years without problems. CB -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:35 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Mike: I face this issue on a regular basis using a setup similar to yours. The terrible answer is that there is not really a solution. IT's a problem with Word. Restarting your PC should fix the problem temporarily though. This usually happens to me after a busy day of drafting and saving documents -- a lot of activity in Word. If you cannot restart at the time, just press yes and Alt F4 out of it when the save as dialog box comes up. Pretty annoying though. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Angela Matney Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:23 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Word 2010 Mike: Could it possibly be trying to save changes to your "normal" template? Can you have someone eyeball the screen for you when this is happening? Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gilmore Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Word 2010 I just got a new computer at work and it's got Windows 7 and Office 2010. It's my first time using both systems (I've been using XP and 2003 for a long time.) I was shocked by the changes in Microsoft Word! When I go to save a document, gone is the nice XP format with the combo box listing the folders. It's now all buttons and I've managed to figure out how to save a document. What's frustrating is let's say I write a document or make a change. I go to exit the document and it asks if I want to save changes. OK, fine and dandy. Then it takes me to a place where OK and help are my options and so I hit OK. Then it wants to save it under a file called normal and doesn't have the format selected that the document is in. There's all these edit boxes and navigation is frustrating. I'll hit save and then it'll take me back to that OK prompt and I hit that and it goes back to the stuff I just described (normal, the incorrect document selected, etc.) Is there any way to simplify all this. It's not straightforward to save a document like it was in 2003. Any tips I can get are very welcome! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonisla w.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From dravant at ameritech.net Thu Mar 14 22:21:37 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:21:37 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities References: <97CE209C3866F34C94B2C517FD5ED1553C1254DD44@Mail.mfy.org> Message-ID: <1B0A91A2-A3BB-42E7-8B5E-3B5E81F257BD@ameritech.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Shelly Weizman > Date: March 14, 2013, 1:16:41 PM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Subject: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, Shelly Weizman > > For all those interested, we recently learned that the ACLU has just launched a diversity in hiring initiative where they are actively recruiting attorneys and other law professionals with disabilities for positions nation-wide. 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Thanks. –Liz Surette From taiablas at gmail.com Fri Mar 15 02:03:23 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:03:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DA268C7A80@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: <00bd01ce2121$516cdf50$f4469df0$@gmail.com> It is too bad that even though many tablet features are accessible, the highlighting feature and direct linking to parts of PDF files are not accessible to blind users. I have not had much luck with WestLaw Next advanced features on the iPhone or iPad. I would be interested in hearing other users' experiences. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:53 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 I thought this article might be of relevance to this list since courtroom strategies are often a topic. Link: http://www.abajournal.com/advertorial/article/mobile_devices_in_court_benefi ts_and_pitfalls/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_ema il Text: Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls Posted March 4, 2013 By Timothy W. Johnson Tablets and other mobile devices are beneficial in a court setting, not only for your preparedness and your argument but also for your back. These devices allow for quick access to legal research, notes, and exhibits, with the added ability to perform on-the-spot searches. They also allow you to quell anxiety over forgetting something, because you can bring your entire case file with you electronically. Finally, you do not need a courier to deliver the binders when traveling or a hand truck to get in and out of court. However, transitioning from paper to a tablet takes planning and practice and is never a substitute for preparation. My first tablet computer was the Motion Computing M1400, which ran a pen-enabled version of Microsoft(r) Windows XP. I bought a leather portfolio that allowed me to discreetly carry it and use it at the court's podium. My primary use was for oral arguments. I later began using the iPad(r). With Windows-based tablets, the applications that I found indispensable were Microsoft Office OneNote and Adobe(r) Acrobat. On the iPad, the WestlawNext(r) application was a game changer along with presentation software such as TrialPad from Lit Software. I have used these tablets and applications in motion practice and appellate oral arguments. WestlawNext was very helpful both at the beginning of my preparation and for the time leading up to and during my argument. WestlawNext allowed me to organize my research by creating folders that matched the issues of my case and placing the relevant cases in the corresponding folder. Using the WestlawNext interface, I highlighted the important facts and holdings in each case and added my notes. I focused my notes on statements that I might make in court about the case. I also made a folder for the cases cited by opposing counsel and reviewed those cases in the same manner. In preparing materials for oral arguments, I was able to quickly print out a list of the contents of each folder thereby giving me a list of cases relevant to the issues. I was also able to quickly download the cases in PDF format with my annotations. I used Microsoft OneNote to outline my arguments and associate any exhibits or evidence that I might refer to during arguments. After converting my outline to PDF, I used Adobe Acrobat to create internal and external links from references in my outline to PDFs of cases and exhibits. I also used Acrobat to convert scanned images into text, which could be searched and highlighted, and then made notes on the exhibits. Because this will be used in a time-critical environment, linking is important to more efficiently find the relevant portions of the documents from the outline or other documents. There is not enough time to review documents on the spot while a judge is waiting. Also last-minute changes to the outline and notes can be quickly adapted without the need for an offsite printing facility. This process has worked well for me in preparing for court and replacing the volume of three -ring binders. Be aware, however, of the perception from the bench as you transition away from paper and binders, because you may lose some non verbal communications channels. In the past, the court may have been alerted that you were trying to answer the question of how the Smith Doctrine applied to your case by flipping frantically through your binders, whereas now your "frantic finger flipping" on your tablet may go unnoticed by the court because the judge may not realize that you are looking through your notes and documents for the answer. The judge may see you as simply stumped and staring down at the podium in defeat. However, within seconds, you can find the relevant information and quickly respond to the judge. Using mobile technology in the courtroom helps you to be competitive by providing faster access to information and enabling you to be more adaptive to shifting your approach or focus at key moments in the case. BIO: Timothy W. Johnson is General Counsel for Peak Completion Technologies, Inc. and a former litigating attorney with the law firm of Matthews Lawson, PLLC in Houston, Texas. He has represented individual and corporate clients in federal and state courts, with an emphasis on intellectual property matters. Timothy can be reached at tim.johnson at peakcompletions.com. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 15 02:08:00 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:08:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities References: <97CE209C3866F34C94B2C517FD5ED1553C1254DD44@Mail.mfy.org> Message-ID: <867D6832-7040-4B29-ADEB-266622BBC338@ameritech.net> Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: Shelly Weizman > Subject: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities > Date: March 14, 2013 1:16:41 PM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, Shelly Weizman > > For all those interested, we recently learned that the ACLU has just launched a diversity in hiring initiative where they are actively recruiting attorneys and other law professionals with disabilities for positions nation-wide. Attached is a PDF of current open job postings. > > > Shelly Weizman > Member, Committee on Legal Issues Affecting People with Disabilities, New York City Bar Association > > Attention: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. > From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Fri Mar 15 02:18:36 2013 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material In-Reply-To: <011901ce1e9e$6710bfa0$35323ee0$@gmail.com> References: <00a801ce1d9f$5d30ae00$17920a00$@gmail.com><00f601ce1da4$c34cdec0$49e69c40$@gmail.com> <011901ce1e9e$6710bfa0$35323ee0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed. The vendor included the software program for my laptop for no additional fee when negotiating the sale of the machine. It is an easy decision If you can find a similarly-priced option that includes built-in accessibility. -----Original Message----- From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:22 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers,With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material I understand where you are coming from. My employer purchased the add-on for other users and I used it on rare occasions to make copies. Were I to purchase a system, I would not want to pay extra for additional software to make it accessible. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:12 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material Hi William, I think we may have other makes of copier, in some parts of the office. To be honest, Xerox's offering seems an extrordinarily bad deal (though I accept that TY's experience may have been different). First you've got to pay a substantial sum for the programme to make it accessible. Now I accept assistive technology isn't always free but I hardly see the point of paying extra for one product, when another maker has gone to the trouble of accessible design - that would allmost create a perverse insentive. 2. I'm not sure from the blurb that Xerox's software allows me to scan and that is essentially what I want to do. Ger On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: > Sorry, I don't remember. You may want to contact Xerox to ask about > the machines in your office -- they may have something for the copiers > you already have. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerard Sadlier [mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:04 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, > With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material > > Will > > What kind of machine was this? > > Ger > > On 3/11/13, William T. Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, find out if Xerox has a software program that you can >> use > to >> operate the machine from your local computer. I used to access a > touchscreen >> multifunction printer / scanner/ copy machine over a network with >> software from the vendor that could interface the machine on my >> laptop. It required walking back and forth from my computer to the >> machine alot but enabled me to access the equipment independently. >> Needless to say, the vendor's software will have to be accessible to >> your assistive technology for this > to >> work. >> Good luck, >> Will >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Blas [mailto:taiablas at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo >> Copiers,With > Touch >> Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> I'm not sure. >> >> Tai >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:17 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, >> With Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >> >> Will it do scanning? >> >> On 3/10/13, Tai Blas wrote: >>> Ger and all: >>> >>> Xerox has software called Copier Assistant which provides blind >>> users access to select machines through text-to-speech instructions >>> on basic copying tasks. I recommend you get in touch to see if your >>> model is compatible with this software. More information can be found at: >>> http://www.office.xerox.com/software-solutions/xerox-copier-assistan >>> t/ >>> enus.h >>> tml >>> >>> I successfully used this software at my former job. I have pasted an >>> overview below: >>> >>> With Xerox Copier Assistant software, your employees-and the >>> public-have easier access to the copying capabilities of Xerox >>> copiers and multifunction printers. This assistive technology is an >>> alternative to the standard touchscreen. Xerox Copier Assistant >>> software helps everyone-especially people who are wheelchair users, >>> blind or visually impaired-to easily program copy jobs and make copies. >>>> see multimedia demo >>> Key Features >>> │Improves accessibility to copying features │Enlarged on-screen user >>> interface provides an alternative to the standard touchscreen user >>> interface │Simplifies copying jobs with easy-to-use, easy-to-program >>> features │Embedded text-to-speech software software talks the user >>> through the copying steps, including advanced tasks such as >>> stapling, collating and two-sided copying as well as indicating when >>> doors are left open or if a paper tray is empty (only available in >>> English) >>> >>> Tai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Gerard Sadlier >>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: BCAB Discussion List >>> Cc: blindlaw >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent, Using MultiFunction Photo Copiers, With >>> Touch Screen Interface For Scanning Large Volumes of Material >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have a scanner at work but I note that the photocopiers scan a lot >>> more quickly and more reliably. Can anyone suggest how I might >>> access these machines for scanning? >>> >>> The issue for me is that they are touch screen interface driven machines. >>> >>> We have Xerox Work Centre Machines. >>> >>> Help very much wanted. >>> >>> Ger >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gma >>> il >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier >>> %4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmai >> l.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail > .com >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Fri Mar 15 07:53:10 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:53:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities In-Reply-To: <867D6832-7040-4B29-ADEB-266622BBC338@ameritech.net> References: <97CE209C3866F34C94B2C517FD5ED1553C1254DD44@Mail.mfy.org> <867D6832-7040-4B29-ADEB-266622BBC338@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <004301ce2152$23813bf0$6a83b3d0$@verizon.net> Nothing was attached- and other listers had the same problem. Can you re-send the attachment(s)? CB -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:08 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: Shelly Weizman > Subject: ACLU is Recruiting Attorneys with Disabilities > Date: March 14, 2013 1:16:41 PM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail > list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, > Shelly Weizman > > For all those interested, we recently learned that the ACLU has just launched a diversity in hiring initiative where they are actively recruiting attorneys and other law professionals with disabilities for positions nation-wide. Attached is a PDF of current open job postings. > > > Shelly Weizman > Member, Committee on Legal Issues Affecting People with Disabilities, > New York City Bar Association > > Attention: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Mar 15 14:18:48 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:18:48 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 In-Reply-To: <00bd01ce2121$516cdf50$f4469df0$@gmail.com> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DA268C7A80@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> <00bd01ce2121$516cdf50$f4469df0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I find it easier to use the old text version of Westlaw on the iPad, through the Safari / WiFi connection. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Blas Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:03 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls,ABA Journal, March 4 2013 It is too bad that even though many tablet features are accessible, the highlighting feature and direct linking to parts of PDF files are not accessible to blind users. I have not had much luck with WestLaw Next advanced features on the iPhone or iPad. I would be interested in hearing other users' experiences. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:53 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls, ABA Journal, March 4 2013 I thought this article might be of relevance to this list since courtroom strategies are often a topic. Link: http://www.abajournal.com/advertorial/article/mobile_devices_in_court_be nefi ts_and_pitfalls/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly _ema il Text: Mobile Devices in Court: Benefits and Pitfalls Posted March 4, 2013 By Timothy W. Johnson Tablets and other mobile devices are beneficial in a court setting, not only for your preparedness and your argument but also for your back. These devices allow for quick access to legal research, notes, and exhibits, with the added ability to perform on-the-spot searches. They also allow you to quell anxiety over forgetting something, because you can bring your entire case file with you electronically. Finally, you do not need a courier to deliver the binders when traveling or a hand truck to get in and out of court. However, transitioning from paper to a tablet takes planning and practice and is never a substitute for preparation. My first tablet computer was the Motion Computing M1400, which ran a pen-enabled version of Microsoft(r) Windows XP. I bought a leather portfolio that allowed me to discreetly carry it and use it at the court's podium. My primary use was for oral arguments. I later began using the iPad(r). With Windows-based tablets, the applications that I found indispensable were Microsoft Office OneNote and Adobe(r) Acrobat. On the iPad, the WestlawNext(r) application was a game changer along with presentation software such as TrialPad from Lit Software. I have used these tablets and applications in motion practice and appellate oral arguments. WestlawNext was very helpful both at the beginning of my preparation and for the time leading up to and during my argument. WestlawNext allowed me to organize my research by creating folders that matched the issues of my case and placing the relevant cases in the corresponding folder. Using the WestlawNext interface, I highlighted the important facts and holdings in each case and added my notes. I focused my notes on statements that I might make in court about the case. I also made a folder for the cases cited by opposing counsel and reviewed those cases in the same manner. In preparing materials for oral arguments, I was able to quickly print out a list of the contents of each folder thereby giving me a list of cases relevant to the issues. I was also able to quickly download the cases in PDF format with my annotations. I used Microsoft OneNote to outline my arguments and associate any exhibits or evidence that I might refer to during arguments. After converting my outline to PDF, I used Adobe Acrobat to create internal and external links from references in my outline to PDFs of cases and exhibits. I also used Acrobat to convert scanned images into text, which could be searched and highlighted, and then made notes on the exhibits. Because this will be used in a time-critical environment, linking is important to more efficiently find the relevant portions of the documents from the outline or other documents. There is not enough time to review documents on the spot while a judge is waiting. Also last-minute changes to the outline and notes can be quickly adapted without the need for an offsite printing facility. This process has worked well for me in preparing for court and replacing the volume of three -ring binders. Be aware, however, of the perception from the bench as you transition away from paper and binders, because you may lose some non verbal communications channels. In the past, the court may have been alerted that you were trying to answer the question of how the Smith Doctrine applied to your case by flipping frantically through your binders, whereas now your "frantic finger flipping" on your tablet may go unnoticed by the court because the judge may not realize that you are looking through your notes and documents for the answer. The judge may see you as simply stumped and staring down at the podium in defeat. However, within seconds, you can find the relevant information and quickly respond to the judge. Using mobile technology in the courtroom helps you to be competitive by providing faster access to information and enabling you to be more adaptive to shifting your approach or focus at key moments in the case. BIO: Timothy W. Johnson is General Counsel for Peak Completion Technologies, Inc. and a former litigating attorney with the law firm of Matthews Lawson, PLLC in Houston, Texas. He has represented individual and corporate clients in federal and state courts, with an emphasis on intellectual property matters. Timothy can be reached at tim.johnson at peakcompletions.com. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pima .gov From dravant at ameritech.net Sat Mar 16 14:33:39 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:33:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] ACLU position Message-ID: <1A069360-EB83-46B3-B2EB-2FD0DFD484A4@ameritech.net> Hello all, I am pasting the information about the ACLU position I forwarded to this list a couple of days ago. I had forgotten that the list does not accept attachments. the description is quite lengthly. Staff Attorney-ACLUF Immigrants’ Rights Project, New York, NY or San Francisco, CA Office: National Offices, New York, NY; National Offices, California Location: California, New York September 27, 2012 CAREER OPPORTUNITY STAFF ATTORNEY [IRP-30] AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Immigrants’ Rights Project, New York, NY or San Francisco, CA The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Immigrants’ Rights Project (IRP) of the ACLU’s National office seeks applications from experienced litigators for the full-time position of Staff Attorney. This position will be based in New York, NY or San Francisco, CA. OVERVIEW The IRP conducts the largest litigation program in the country dedicated to enforcing and defending the constitutional and civil rights of immigrants and to combating public and private discrimination against non-citizens. The IRP also supports and coordinates the immigrants’ rights work of the ACLU’s 53 affiliates around the country. IRP maintains offices in New York and California (and additional staff in Los Angeles and Atlanta) with a combined staff of fifteen, plus legal fellows, interns and volunteers. Current areas of litigation and advocacy include state and local anti-immigrant laws and practices; immigration enforcement practices and racial profiling; immigration detention; habeas corpus and access to the courts; discriminatory language and education policies; and due process in immigration removal proceedings. The Immigrants’ Rights Project is part of the ACLU’s Center for Equality which works to uphold the federal constitution’s promise that all Americans will receive equal protection of the law. The Center also includes the ACLU’s Racial Justice, Voting and Disability work. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES  Lead and participate in impact litigation on behalf of immigrants in federal trial and appellate courts.  Conduct legal research and fact investigation on immigrants’ rights issues. Identify and evaluate issues subject to legal challenge.  Support and advise ACLU affiliates, coalition partners and the immigration bar on legal and policy issues.  Serve as a resource for ACLU legislative and policy work, including legal analysis of proposed legislation and government policies and practices.  Advance ACLU goals through public education, advocacy and media.  Supervise more junior attorneys, legal fellows, paralegals and student interns.  Work on funding proposals, reports and donor solicitations as requested. QUALIFICATIONS  J.D. required. Significant federal court litigation experience (five years or more) is strongly preferred.  Federal judicial clerkship preferred.  Ability to work independently as well as within a team.  Demonstrated commitment to public interest law.  Ability to engage in complex legal analysis and fact investigation in an impact litigation setting.  Excellent legal research and writing skills are essential.  Supervisory and mentoring experience is preferred.  Knowledge of immigration law is a plus.  Fluency in Spanish is a plus.  Willingness to travel is required. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Interested persons should submit a cover letter, resume, a legal writing sample (sample will not be returned) and the names of three (3) references via email to: hrjobsIRP at aclu.org reference [IRP-30/ ACLU-W] in subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Immigrants’ Rights Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. As of November 15th, we will only accept email submissions of applications. Any applications that are mailed prior to this date will be considered. Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer and encourages applications from all qualified individuals including women, people of color, persons with disabilities, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” http://www.aclu.org/job/staff-attorney-acluf-immigrants-rights-project-new-york-ny-or-san-francisco-ca Managing Attorney, Equality Center - ACLUF Legal Department, New York, NY or Washington, DC Office: National Offices, New York, NY Location: New York November 15, 2012 CAREER OPPORTUNITY Managing Attorney, Equality Center – Voting Rights Program [CE-03] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Legal Department, NY or Washington, DC The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), with now more than 500,000 members, was founded in 1920 and is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The ACLU’s Equality Center seeks applicants for a full-time Managing Attorney position largely focused on Voting Rights. The position will be in the ACLU’s New York City or Washington DC office. OVERVIEW The ACLU has a long history of defending the right to vote, which it believes is the backbone of democracy. The ACLU played a critical role in convincing the U.S. Supreme Court to establish the “one person, one vote” rule and in strengthening the Voting Rights Act in 1982. Through persistent litigation, voter empowerment, and fighting efforts to restrict the vote in state legislatures, the ACLU helped make it possible for minority voters all over America to participate in the electoral process, and through that, to change the face of government. Today, the ACLU’s voting rights work includes litigation and working for strong federal and state legislation and policy. The work is carried out through the Legal and Advocacy Departments of the national ACLU, its Washington Legislative Office, and by the ACLU’s 53 affiliate offices around the country. The voting rights work is part of the ACLU’s Center for Equality which works to uphold the federal constitution’s promise that all Americans will receive equal protection of the law. The Equality Center also includes the ACLU’s work on racial justice, immigrant’s rights and disability. The ACLU’s work has been devoted to: 1) leveling the playing field for racial and language minorities; 2) making one person, one vote a reality; and 3) reforming the electoral process so that it is easy for everyone to vote. Currently, the ACLU is helping to fight back against a flood of state laws aimed at making it more difficult to register and vote. The ACLU is also helping to resist constitutional attacks on the Voting Rights Act, which more than any other law, has made it possible for minorities in America to exercise real political power. The job of the Managing Voting Rights Attorney will be to: 1) supervise the ACLU Equality Center lawyers who work on Voting Rights; 2) work to refine the vision for ACLU voting rights work, and revise the strategic plan as necessary to reflect that vision; 3) litigate cases; 4) work with lobbyists in the Washington Legislative office, Policy Counsel and Advocates and the Communications Department to advance the ACLU’s goals on voting; 5) work with ACLU affiliates to develop and refine their voting rights work; and 6) work with other groups involved in voting rights. Over time, the Managing Attorney may work on other issues. The Managing Attorney will report to the Director of the Equality Center. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES  With the Center Director and staff working on voting, refine the ACLU’s vision and priorities on voting rights.  Responsible for implementation of the ACLU’s strategic plans to achieve its vision on voting rights.  Supervise national ACLU lawyers working primarily on voting rights and other lawyers working on voting cases.  Work with other areas of the ACLU to develop and coordinate the ACLU’s non-litigation advocacy on voting rights.  Advise, support and inspire ACLU state affiliates to pursue and expand work on voting rights issues in their own jurisdictions independently and in collaboration with the National ACLU.  Work with the ACLU’s Development Department to communicate the ACLU’s goals and programs on voting to foundations and individual donors and prospects.  Collaborate with other parts of the ACLU, particularly the other parts of the Center for Equality, to strengthen our commitment as a nation to easily accessible voting for all.  Work with sister organizations and advocates to advance voting rights and be a public spokesperson in speeches, debates, the media and other settings to advance the ACLU’s vision of the right to vote.  Be involved in litigation.  Work on other issues as determined by the Center Director. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS Required Qualifications  A J.D. with three or more years of experience with litigation, legislation or policy.  Demonstrated ability to think creatively and strategically about using the law to achieve change.  Demonstrated commitment to constitutional and civil rights and public interest law.  Ability to engage in complex legal analysis and fact investigation in impact litigation, policy and legislative advocacy settings, sometimes under tight deadlines.  Ability to work independently as well as within a team.  Ability to work with other public interest and community groups.  Excellent legal research and writing skills.  Demonstrated ability to communicate clearly and persuasively is essential.  Commitment to the mission of the ACLU. Preferred Qualifications  Four or more years of experience as a litigator, legislative lawyer or in crafting and/or implementing voting rights policy is strongly preferred.  Prior supervisory or management experience is preferred.  Demonstrated ability to help develop and implement multi-faceted advocacy campaigns that include litigation, lobbying and advocacy, communications, public education, and community organizing is preferred.  Demonstrated commitment to voting rights.  Fluency in Spanish is a plus.  This position requires significant travel. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Please send a cover letter (with salary requirements), resume and legal writing sample by email to hrjobsCE at aclu.org – reference [CE-03/ACLU-W] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Voting Rights Project job postings. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively materials can be sent by mail to: Center for Equality RE: [CE-03/ACLU-W] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Legislative Counsel/Lobbyist - ACLU Washington Legislative Office, Washington, DC Office: National Offices, Washington, DC Location: District of Columbia February 20, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY Legislative Counsel/Lobbyist [IRI-14/15] American Civil Liberties Union Washington Legislative Office, Washington, DC For more than 92 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country’s largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Washington Legislative Office (WLO) in the ACLU’s National Office in Washington, DC seeks applicants for two full-time Legislative Counsel/Lobbyist positions. The positions are for a duration of two years. OVERVIEW The Legislative Counsel/Lobbyist will be part of an exciting new interdisciplinary team that will integrate and capitalize on the expertise of staff focused on litigation, communications, advocacy, and alliance and coalition building. The Legislative Counsel/Lobbyist will work under the supervision of the WLO Chief of Staff. While the primary focus of the position will concern a portfolio of issues related to immigrants’ rights, the Counsel will be knowledgeable about a wide range of civil liberties issues, and will also be responsible for responding to emerging priorities as identified by the office. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES  Prepare and deliver testimony on pending legislation before Congressional committees;  Research and draft legislative memoranda on federal bills and proposed administrative rules and regulations affecting civil liberties;  Lobby members of Congress, their staff and administration officials to support ACLU positions on pending legislation and policy initiatives;  Coordinate and conduct in-depth civil liberties briefings for Congressional and Executive Branch staff;  Participate as the ACLU representative in meetings of ad hoc lobbying and policy coalitions;  Work with national and local media to brief them on legislative and executive branch priorities;  Collaborate with other ACLU national and affiliate staff and representatives of coalition allies. Organize, lead, and work with outside groups to bolster support for ACLU policy goals or to minimize opposition to those goals;  Coordinate efforts across the organization including legal projects, communications staff, state strategists, and affiliates around the country to keep them abreast of and enlist their support for ACLU lobbying work on the relevant portfolio of issues; and  Supervise an administrative staff person, ACLU volunteers and interns. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS  J.D. degree, other advanced degree, or equivalent legislative experience is required;  Three (3) or more years of combined experience working on legislative and policy matters. Experience in the field of immigrants’ rights is preferred;  Excellent verbal and written communication skills,  Demonstrated ability to analyze legislative and administrative policy;  Ability to work independently, as well as within a team;  An understanding of issues relating to law, public policy and the strategies and tools needed to achieve policy change using federal legislative, administrative, and regulatory processes;  A capacity to organize, lead and work with coalitions to achieve lobbying goals;  Litigation or lobbying experience involving civil liberties or related public interest issues is a plus. Immigrants’ rights experience is strongly preferred, including knowledge of key policy issues related to immigration reform, enforcement, detention and deportation.  Commitment to the mission of the ACLU. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Please send a cover letter (with salary requirements), resume and writing sample that demonstrates legal or policy analysis skills via email to: hrjobsWLO at aclu.org. Please reference [IRI-14/15/ACLU-W] in the subject line. Please note that this email address is specific to the Department in which the vacancy exists. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e- mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of your application materials. Alternatively, application materials may be sent by mail to: American Civil Liberties Union RE: [IRI-14/15/ACLU-W] 915 15th Street, NW Washington, DC 20005 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Staff Attorney-ACLUF Immigrants’ Rights Project, San Francisco, Phoenix, Kansas City, St. Louis, or Atlanta Office: National Offices, California; National Offices, Kansas City; National Offices, Atlanta; National Offices, St Louis; National Offices, Phoenix Location: Arizona, California, Georgia, Kansas, Missouri December 27, 2012 Career Opportunity Staff Attorney [IRP-26,27,28,29] AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Immigrants’ Rights Project The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members, and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the Constitution. The Immigrants’ Rights Project of the ACLU’s National office is seeking applicants for four full-time Staff Attorney positions as part of a coordinated campaign to defeat unconstitutional anti-immigrant laws and policies. Each Staff Attorney position will be based in an ACLU office in San Francisco, Phoenix, Kansas City, St. Louis or Atlanta. Each attorney will work in coordination with ACLU state affiliates and ACLU national advocacy and communications colleagues to fight anti-immigrant measures in an assigned region of the country—Southwest, Midwest, or Southeast. Each staff attorney position is for a duration of three years. OVERVIEW These four positions are part of an ACLU initiative to launch significant new litigation, advocacy, and public education to fight back against anti-immigrant state laws and policies. In recent years, state and local lawmakers around the country have adopted unconstitutional legislation and policies designed to take federal immigration regulation and enforcement into their own hands. These policies invite discrimination against immigrants, Latinos, and other communities of color and erode civil rights and civil liberties by, for example, permitting police officers to demand documentation from anyone who is subject to routine encounters with law enforcement. The civil liberties threats are especially dire in the southwestern, midwestern and southeastern regions of the country, where state legislatures have enacted some of the nation’s harshest anti-immigrant laws and local law enforcement agencies have implemented unconstitutional policies and practices relating to immigration enforcement. The four attorneys will be part of IRP’s national legal staff and will engage in litigation and advocacy challenging unconstitutional laws and practices targeting immigrants, as well as public education and training about the constitutional and civil rights of immigrants and other affected communities. The attorneys will work closely with ACLU affiliates and immigrants’ rights advocates in one of three assigned regions: the Southwest, the Midwest, or the Southeast. The IRP conducts the largest litigation program in the country dedicated to enforcing and defending the constitutional and civil rights of immigrants and to combating public and private discrimination against non- citizens. The IRP also supports and coordinates the immigrants’ rights work of the ACLU’s 53 affiliates around the country. The IRP maintains offices in New York and California (and additional staff in Los Angeles and Atlanta) with combined staff of fifteen, plus legal fellows, interns and volunteers. Current areas of litigation and advocacy include state and local anti-immigrant laws and practices; immigration enforcement practices and racial profiling; immigration detention; habeas corpus and access to the courts; discriminatory language and education policies; and due process in immigration removal proceedings. The IRP is part of the ACLU’s Center for Equality, which works to uphold the federal constitution’s promise that all Americans will receive equal protection of the law. The Center also includes the ACLU’s Racial Justice, Voting and Disability work. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Participate in significant federal court impact litigation on behalf of immigrants and other affected communities, including case development, motions and briefs, client and witness interviews, and discovery. Assist in developing and assessing potential litigation to challenge unconstitutional laws and practices targeting immigrants, by conducting legal research and fact investigation to identify issues subject to challenge. Serve as a liaison to immigrant communities and advocates in an assigned region of the country (Southwest, Midwest or Southeast) to foster two-way communication about civil rights and civil liberties issues. Work in conjunction with advocacy staff to support and advise the ACLU affiliates in the assigned region on legal and policy issues involving the civil and constitutional rights of immigrants and other affected communities. Work in conjunction with communications staff to assist in developing public education materials and making presentations on the civil and constitutional rights of immigrants and others affected by policies that target immigrants. Public education efforts will be geared toward different audiences, including affected immigrant communities and direct service providers including immigration and criminal defense attorneys. Serve as a resource for ACLU legislative and policy work; advance ACLU goals through public education, advocacy and media. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS J.D. is required. Significant federal court litigation experience is strongly preferred. Knowledge of immigration law is helpful but not required. Must be self-motivated and able to work independently as well as within a team. Demonstrated commitment to public interest law. Ability to engage in complex legal analysis and fact-finding. Excellent legal research and writing skills are essential. Fluency in Spanish strongly preferred. Experience in grass-roots organizing is helpful but not required. Ability to travel is essential as the position will require frequent travel throughout the assigned region and to IRP’s offices in New York and California. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers compensation commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation has engaged the Nonprofit Professionals Advisory Group to help with this hire. Please apply by using the following link https://searchlight.cluen.com/E5/JobDetails.aspx?URLKey=7oypzax1. As of November 15th, we will only accept email submissions of applications. Any applications that are mailed prior to this date will be considered. Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until positions are filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” http://www.aclu.org/job/staff-attorney-acluf-immigrants-rights-project-san-francisco-ca-0 LEGAL INTERNSHIPS Fall 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF National Prison Project, Washington, D.C. Office: Legal Internships Location: District of Columbia March 4, 2013 FALL 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION National Prison Project, Washington, D.C. For more than 92 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country’s largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The National Prison Project of the ACLU’s National Office in Washington, D.C. seeks applicants for its Fall 2013 Legal Internship. OVERVIEW Founded in 1972 by the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Prison Project (NPP) seeks to ensure constitutional conditions of confinement in prisons, jails, juvenile facilities, and immigration detention facilities. It seeks to promote prisoners’ rights through class action litigation and public education. NPP priorities include reducing prison overcrowding, improving prisoner medical care, eliminating violence and maltreatment, and increasing oversight and accountability in prisons, jails, and other places of detention. The Project also coordinates a nationwide network of litigators, conducts training and public education conferences, and provides expert advice and technical assistance to local community groups and lawyers throughout the country. The Project also works to challenge the policies of over-incarceration that have led the United States to imprison more people than any other country in the world. This is an opportune moment to reform such policies. There is a growing consensus among criminal justice experts and policymakers that America’s criminal justice system has relied too heavily on incarceration as the first and often only response for non-violent behavior that could better be addressed through other means. The population in American prisons and jails has tripled in the past 15 years and now approaches two and a half million. Facilities are overcrowded; medical systems are overwhelmed; work, education, and treatment programs are inadequate; and prison violence has increased. This failed experiment does not make us safer, it is not affordable, and it exacerbates the racial disparities that have long plagued the criminal justice system. The Project, with a staff of seven lawyers, has fought and continues to fight unlawful prison conditions and practices through successful litigation on behalf of prisoners in more than 25 states. Since 1991, the Project has represented prisoners in five cases before the United States Supreme Court. It is the only organization litigating prison conditions of confinement nationwide on behalf of men, women, and juveniles. Currently, the Project represents over 50,000 prisoners housed in prisons and jails in 12 states, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Fall 2013 Legal Internship requires a 12-16 week commitment. The internship is part-time, with weekly hours that are negotiable. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s educational institution for a work/study stipend or course credit. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES The internship is designed to provide interns with the opportunity to learn about public interest law, with a prisoners’ rights focus. Interns will work with the National Prison Project team, and gain hands on experience in all aspects of litigation work including but not limited to:  Conducting research on prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims.  Participating in discovery and motion practice.  Assisting in the drafting of motions and briefs.  Assisting with trials and appeals. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The internship is open to all law students. Applicants should possess:  Excellent research, writing and communication skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  Demonstrated initiative to see projects through to completion.  Demonstrated interest in social justice and legal issues.  A strong interest and commitment to civil rights and civil liberties issues. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and a legal writing sample of no more than ten pages to hrjobsNPPinternship at aclu.org - reference [NPP Fall 2013 Legal Internship] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to National Prison Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Eric Balaban American Civil Liberties Union RE: NPP Fall 2013 Legal Internship 915 15th Street, NW –Seventh Floor Washington, DC 20005 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis. Applicants are strongly encouraged to submit their materials as early as possible. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants who need accommodation in the application process to contact Recruitment at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to the Recruitment at aclu.org address that is not related to accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Spring 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF Reproductive Freedom Project, NY Office: Legal Internships Location: New York December 13, 2012 SPRING 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO FIRST AND SECOND YEAR LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Reproductive Freedom Project, NY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Reproductive Freedom Project of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Spring of 2013. OVERVIEW The mission of the ACLU’s Reproductive Freedom Project (RFP) is to secure a world that respects and supports everyone’s right to form intimate relationships and to decide whether and when to have a child. Through litigation, advocacy, and public education, The Project strives to ensure that the freedoms and opportunities enjoyed by some become the freedoms and opportunities enjoyed by all. In particular, the Project works to ensure access to abortion services, comprehensive sex education, and affordable contraception, and to protect the rights of marginalized women to continue their pregnancies. The ACLU is particularly committed to ensuring that individuals’ reproductive rights are not compromised because of their race, youth, or economic status, and believes that reproductive rights work must be informed by broader racial and social justice considerations. For more than three decades, RFP has participated in nearly every critical reproductive rights case before the Supreme Court and in significant cases in federal and state courts too numerous to count, including challenges to intrusive counseling laws; laws that defund organizations because they provide or refer for abortion; bans on abortion procedures; laws that restrict teens’ access to abortion; and restrictions on insurance coverage of abortion. The ACLU is also the nation’s leading expert on the intersection between reproductive rights and the religion and free speech clauses of the First Amendment. The Reproductive Freedom Project is part of the ACLU’s Center for Liberty, which is dedicated to the principle that we are all entitled to determine the course of our lives based on who we are and what we believe, free from unreasonable government constraint and baseless stereotypes. The Center for Liberty encompasses the ACLU’s work on reproductive rights, women’s rights, LGBT issues, and freedom of religion and belief. The Reproductive Freedom Project is unique among reproductive rights organizations in that it works with the ACLU’s nationwide network of affiliates and across the organization with attorneys who specialize in other civil liberties areas, including free speech, race and poverty issues, and lesbian and gay rights. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Spring 2013 Legal Internship offers interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The Internship requires a 10-12 week commitment and is part-time, with weekly hours that are negotiable. Interns are highly encouraged to seek outside funding, as the internship is unpaid. Arrangements can be made with the interns’ school for work/study or course credit. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the RFP team. They will gain experience by:  Conducting legal and policy research.  Drafting memoranda, affidavits and briefs  Assisting with researching prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims.  Assisting with researching and drafting materials for public education. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This Legal Internship is open to first and second year law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing and communication skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  Demonstrated interest in social justice and legal issues.  A strong interest and commitment to civil rights and civil liberties issues. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, an official or unofficial transcript, and a legal writing sample, no more than 10 pages in length, by email to hrjobsRFP at aclu.org. Reference [RFP Spring 2013 Legal Internship] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Reproductive Freedom Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Law Student Intern Program RE: RFP Spring 2013 Legal Internship American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Students are encouraged to submit applications as early as possible, as decisions are made on a rolling basis. Applications will be accepted until the internship is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Spring/Summer 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF Equality Center - Disability Rights Program, San Francisco, CA Office: Legal Internships Location: California January 3, 2013 SPRING /SUMMER 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Equality Center - Disability Rights Program, San Francisco, CA The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with more than 500,000 members dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Equality Center – Disability Rights Program of the ACLU’s National Office San Francisco seeks applicants for a Spring/Summer 2013 Legal Internship. OVERVIEW The ACLU has a long history of defending the rights of people with disabilities. It played a major role in securing passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act. The ACLU has battled discrimination against persons with HIV/AIDS and stood up for the voting rights of persons with disabilities in the ongoing debate over electoral reform. It has fought to obtain adequate health care and access to services for prisoners with disabilities across the country. The ACLU also established the right to treatment for persons with mental illness who are involuntarily committed. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Internship requires a 10 to 16 week commitment. The internship may be full-time or part-time, with weekly hours that are negotiable. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student's law school for a work/study stipend or course credit. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITES The Legal Internship program is designed to provide an intern with the opportunity to learn about public interest law, with a disability rights focus. The intern will work closely with the Equality Center Disability Counsel. He/she will be expected to:  Conduct internet and other factual research and collaborate with staff in preparing background memoranda on selected policy issues.  Provide legal research and analysis.  Collect and analyze statistical and social science data for use in litigation and policy presentations.  Assist with outreach to disability organizations.  Assist with the development and maintenance of websites, materials and other public information pieces.  Perform special projects and other duties as assigned. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The internship is open to students who are currently enrolled in law school, have completed their first year, and who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing and communications skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  Ability to work independently.  Experience with disability rights law, legislative lobbying, and personal experience with disability preferred.  Demonstrated commitment to civil rights and civil liberties issues. HOW TO APPLY Please send a letter of interest, a resume, a writing sample (no more than five pages in length), and the names and phone numbers of two references to hrjobsCE at aclu.org - reference [2013 Legal Internship – Equality Center- Disability] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Disability Rights postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the receipt of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Susan Mizner American Civil Liberties Union RE: SPRING/SUMMER 2013 Legal Internship – Equality Center 39 Drumm Street San Francisco, CA 94111 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Students are encouraged to submit application materials as early as possible, since decisions are made on a rolling basis. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” http://www.aclu.org/job/springsummer-2013-legal-internship-acluf-equality-center-disability-rights-program-san- francisco Summer 2013 Legal Internship Opportunity, Capital Punishment Project -- ACLU, Durham, NC Office: Legal Internships Location: North Carolina November 15, 2012 SUMMER 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO FIRST AND SECOND YEAR LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Capital Punishment Project, Durham, NC The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Capital Punishment Project (CPP) of the ACLU’s National Office in Durham, N.C. seeks applicants for its Summer 2013 Legal Internship, which will begin in June 2013. OVERVIEW The Capital Punishment Project, part of the ACLU’s Center for Justice, challenges the unfairness and arbitrariness of capital punishment while working toward the ultimate goal of abolishing the death penalty. The Project engages in public advocacy and strategic litigation, including direct representation of capital defendants. The Project’s litigation is conducted throughout the country, with particular focus on the South. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Summer 2013 Legal Internship offers Interns theopportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The internship requires a 10-12 week commitment and is full-time. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek Public Interest Fellowship funds. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. Interns who do not secure funding may be eligible for a stipend provided by the Project. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Legal Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the CPP team. Interns will gain experience by:  Conducting legal and policy research.  Drafting memoranda, affidavits and briefs.  Researching prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims.  Assisting with researching and drafting materials for public education. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The Internship is open to first and second year law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing and communication skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  An interest in the abolition of the death penalty.  A commitment to civil liberties, civil rights and social justice. HOW TO APPLY Please send a cover letter, resume, short writing sample (no more than 10 pages in length), and a list of three references to hrjobsCPP at aclu.org. Reference [CPP Summer 2013 Legal Internship] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Capital Punishment Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Renee Rauch RE: CPP Summer 2013 Legal Internship American Civil Liberties Union 201 West Main Street, Suite 402 Durham, NC 27701 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applicants are encouraged to submit materials as early as possible, as decisions are made on a rolling basis. The deadline to apply is February 12, 2013, however, applications will be accepted until the position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” http://www.aclu.org/job/summer-2013-legal-internship-opportunity-capital-punishment-project-aclu-durham-nc Spring 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF National Prison Project, Washington, DC Office: Legal Internships Location: District of Columbia November 14, 2012 SPRING 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION National Prison Project, Washington, DC The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The National Prison Project of the ACLU’s National Office in Washington, D.C. seeks legal interns for the Spring of 2013. OVERVIEW Founded in 1972 by the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Prison Project (NPP) seeks to ensure constitutional conditions of confinement in prisons, jails, juvenile facilities, and immigration detention facilities. It seeks to promote prisoners’ rights through class action litigation and public education. NPP priorities include reducing prison overcrowding, improving prisoner medical care, eliminating violence and maltreatment, and increasing oversight and accountability in prisons, jails, and other places of detention. The Project also coordinates a nationwide network of litigators, conducts training and public education conferences, and provides expert advice and technical assistance to local community groups and lawyers throughout the country. The Project also works to challenge the policies of over-incarceration that have led the United States to imprison more people than any other country in the world. This is an opportune moment to reform such policies. There is a growing consensus among criminal justice experts and policymakers that America’s criminal justice system has relied too heavily on incarceration as the first and often only response for non-violent behavior that could better be addressed through other means. The population in American prisons and jails has tripled in the past 15 years and now approaches two and a half million. Facilities are overcrowded; medical systems are overwhelmed; work, education, and treatment programs are inadequate; and prison violence has increased. This failed experiment does not make us safer, it is not affordable, and it exacerbates the racial disparities that have long plagued the criminal justice system. The Project, with a staff of seven lawyers, has fought and continues to fight unlawful prison conditions and practices through successful litigation on behalf of prisoners in more than 25 states. Since 1991, the Project has represented prisoners in five cases before the United States Supreme Court. It is the only organization litigating prison conditions of confinement nationwide on behalf of men, women, and juveniles. Currently, the Project represents over 50,000 prisoners housed in prisons and jails in 12 states, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Spring 2013 Legal Internship requires a 12-16 week commitment. The internship is part-time, with weekly hours that are negotiable. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the National Prison Project team. Interns will gain hands on experience in all aspects of litigation work including but not limited to:  Conducting research on prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims.  Participating in discovery and motion practice.  Assisting in the drafting of motions and briefs.  Assisting with trials and appeals. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This legal internship is open to all law students. Applicants should possess:  Excellent research, writing and communication skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  Demonstrated initiative to see projects through to completion.  Demonstrated interest in social justice and legal issues.  A strong interest and commitment to civil rights and civil liberties issues. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and a legal writing sample of no more than ten pages to hrjobsNPPinternship at aclu.org - reference [NPP Spring 2013 Legal Internship] in subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to National Prison Project postings.In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Eric Balaban American Civil Liberties Union Foundation RE: NPP Spring 2013 Legal Internship 915 15th Street, NW – Seventh Floor Washington, DC 20005 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis. Applicants are strongly encouraged to submit their materials as early as possible. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” http://www.aclu.org/node/36751 Summer 2013 Legal Internship - ACLUF Reproductive Freedom Project, NY Office: Legal Internships Location: New York October 10, 2012 SUMMER 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO FIRST AND SECOND YEAR LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Reproductive Freedom Project, NY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Reproductive Freedom Project (RFP) of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Summer of 2013. OVERVIEW The mission of the ACLU’s Reproductive Freedom Project (RFP) is to secure a world that respects and supports everyone’s right to form intimate relationships and to decide whether and when to have a child. Through litigation, advocacy, and public education, RFP strives to ensure that the freedoms and opportunities enjoyed by some become the freedoms and opportunities enjoyed by all. In particular, The Project works to ensure access to abortion services, comprehensive sex education, and affordable contraception, and to protect the rights of marginalized women to continue their pregnancies. The ACLU is particularly committed to ensuring that individuals’ reproductive rights are not compromised because of their race, youth, or economic status, and believes that reproductive rights work must be informed by broader racial and social justice considerations. For more than three decades, RFP has participated in nearly every critical reproductive rights case before the Supreme Court and in significant cases in federal and state courts too numerous to count, including challenges to intrusive counseling laws; laws that defund organizations because they provide or refer for abortion; bans on abortion procedures; laws that restrict teens’ access to abortion; and restrictions on insurance coverage of abortion. The ACLU is also the nation’s leading expert on the intersection between reproductive rights and the religion and free speech clauses of the First Amendment. The Reproductive Freedom Project is unique among reproductive rights organizations in that it works with the ACLU’s nationwide network of affiliates and other attorneys in the organization who specialize in other civil liberties areas, including free speech, race and poverty issues, and lesbian and gay rights. In addition, the Reproductive Freedom Project is part of the ACLU’s Center for Liberty, which is dedicated to the principle that we are all entitled to determine the course of our lives based on who we are and what we believe, free from unreasonable government constraint and baseless stereotypes. The Center for Liberty encompasses the ACLU’s work on reproductive rights, women’s rights, LGBT issues, and freedom of religion and belief. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Summer 2013 Internship offers Legal Interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The Internship requires a 10-12 week commitment and is full-time. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. Summer Legal Interns who do not secure funding will be eligible for a stipend provided by the Project. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Legal Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the RFP team. Interns will gain experience by:  Conducting factual and legal research.  Assisting in the drafting of pleadings, briefs and other litigation documents.  Researching and drafting materials for public education.  Researching prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This Legal Internship is open to first and second year law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing and communication skills.  Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite, including internet research.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  Demonstrated interest in social justice and legal issues.  Familiarity with civil liberties issues related to reproductive freedom is desirable; commitment to these issues is essential. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, an official or unofficial transcript, and a legal writing sample, preferably no more than 10 pages in length, by email to hrjobsRFP at aclu.org reference [RFP Summer 2013 Legal Internship] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Reproductive Freedom Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively applications can be sent by mail to: Law Student Intern Program RE: RFP Summer 2013 Legal Internship American Civil Liberties Union Foundation 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis. Applications from second year law students must be postmarked no later than December 1, 2012. Applications from first year law students must be postmarked no later than January 10, 2013. Applicants are strongly encouraged to submit their materials as early as possible. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” 2013 Summer Legal Internship-ACLUF Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief, DC October 5, 2012 2013 SUMMER LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief, DC The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with more than 500,000 members dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief (PFRB) of the ACLU’s National Office in Washington, DC invites applications for Legal Interns for the Summer of 2013. OVERVIEW The Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief was established by the ACLU in 2005. The Program is designed to help safeguard American constitutional principles by ensuring that laws and governmental practices neither promote religion nor interfere with its free exercise. The Program’s goal is to preserve religious liberty through an integrated strategy of litigation, education, and public advocacy. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Summer 2013 Legal Internship requires a 10-12 week commitment and is full-time. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. Interns who do not secure funding will be eligible for a stipend provided by the Program. ROLES AND RESPONSIBLITIES The Summer Legal Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working closely with the Director, Staff Attorney and other staff of the Program. Interns will assist in all aspects of litigation, and will gain experience by :  Conducting legal research and factual investigation.  Drafting of memoranda, complaints, discovery materials, and briefs.  Assisting ACLU affiliates, private attorneys, governmental entities, and others who seek the ACLU’s help.  Screening potential cases and researching or drafting materials for public education. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This Legal Internship is open to all law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing, analytical, and communication skills.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  The ability to work with a wide range of people.  A strong interest and commitment to civil rights and civil liberties issues. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter explaining their interest in the internship, a resume, three references, an official or unofficial transcript, and a legal writing sample, no more than 10 pages in length, via email to hrjobsPFRB at aclu.org- reference [Summer 2013 PFRB Legal Internship] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Law Student Intern Program American Civil Liberties Union Foundation RE: Summer 2013 PFRB Legal Internship 915 15th Street, NW - 6th Floor Washington DC, 20005 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Students are encouraged to submit applications as early as possible, as decisions are made on a rolling basis. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Summer 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender & AIDS Project, NY Office: Legal Internships Location: New York September 27, 2012 SUMMER 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO FIRST AND SECOND YEAR LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender & AIDS Project, NY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920 is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with more than 500,000 members dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender and AIDS Project of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Summer of 2013. OVERVIEW Founded in 1986, the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender (LGBT) & AIDS Project is a division of the national office of the ACLU. It is part of the ACLU’s Center for Liberty, which encompasses the ACLU’s work on women’s rights, reproductive freedom, LGBT rights and the rights of people living with HIV, and freedom of religion and belief. The Center for Liberty is dedicated to the principle that we are all entitled to determine the course of our lives based on who we are and what we believe, free from unreasonable government constraint and baseless stereotypes. The goal of the Project is the creation of a society in which lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people and people with HIV enjoy the basic rights of equality, privacy and personal autonomy, and freedom of belief, expression and association. This means an America where there is the ability to live open and honest lives without fear of discrimination or abuse, respect for our identities, relationships and families, and fair treatment in employment, schools, health care, housing and public places and programs. The Project brings “impact” lawsuits in state and federal courts throughout the country – cases designed to have a significant effect on the lives of LGBT people and those with HIV/AIDS. The Project’s legal strategies are built on the idea that fighting for civil rights means not only persuading judges but also ultimately changing the way people think. As the Project litigates for change, it implements targeted media, online and outreach campaigns to change public attitudes through education and to give people on the frontlines the tools they need to act. As a part of the ACLU, the Project is in a unique position to work for equality. The ACLU’s national network of affiliates broadens the Project’s reach into every locality and into the federal government. Today, the ACLU brings more LGBT cases and advocacy initiatives than any other national civil rights organization. The Project strives to ensure that the racial and economic diversity of the LGBT community is reflected in its work and continues to explore ways to make its efforts more sensitive to the needs of people of color and people who are economically disadvantaged. The Project’s work as part of the broad civil liberties agenda of the ACLU exemplifies the notion that the LGBT community and the community of those living with HIV/AIDS must work in concert with other social change movements in order to achieve a just society for all. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Summer 2013 Legal Internship offers Legal Interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The Internship requires a 10-12 week commitment and is full-time. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. Summer Legal Interns who do not secure funding will be eligible for a stipend provided by the Project. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Legal Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the LGBT and AIDS Project team. Interns will gain experience by:  Conducting factual and legal research.  Assisting in the drafting of pleadings, briefs and other litigation documents.  Researching and drafting materials for public education.  Researching prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This Legal Internship is open to first and second year law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing, analytical and communication skills.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  The ability to work with a wide range of people.  Familiarity with civil rights and civil liberties issues affecting LGBT people and those living with HIV/AIDS is desirable; commitment to these issues is essential. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and a legal writing sample to hrjobsLGBTintern at aclu.org - reference [LGBT Summer 2013 Legal Internship] in subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to LGBT & AIDS Project postings.In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Law Student Intern Program American Civil Liberties Union Foundation RE: LGBT Summer 2013 Legal Internship 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis. Applications from second year law students must be postmarked no later than December 1, 2012. Applications from first year law students must be postmarked no later than January 10, 2013. Applicants are strongly encouraged to submit their materials as early as possible. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Spring 2013 Legal Internship-ACLU Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender & AIDS Project, NY Office: Legal Internships Location: New York September 27, 2012 SPRING 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO FIRST AND SECOND YEAR LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender & AIDS Project, NY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920 is a nationwide, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with more than 500,000 members dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender and AIDS Project of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Spring of 2013. OVERVIEW Founded in 1986, the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender (LGBT) & AIDS Project is a division of the national office of the ACLU. It is part of the ACLU’s Center for Liberty, which encompasses the ACLU’s work on women’s rights, reproductive freedom, LGBT rights and the rights of people living with HIV, and freedom of religion and belief. The Center for Liberty is dedicated to the principle that we are all entitled to determine the course of our lives based on who we are and what we believe, free from unreasonable government constraint and baseless stereotypes. The goal of the Project is the creation of a society in which lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people and people with HIV enjoy the basic rights of equality, privacy and personal autonomy, and freedom of belief, expression and association. This means an America where there is the ability to live open and honest lives without fear of discrimination or abuse, respect for our identities, relationships and families, and fair treatment in employment, schools, health care, housing and public places and programs. The Project brings “impact” lawsuits in state and federal courts throughout the country – cases designed to have a significant effect on the lives of LGBT people and those with HIV/AIDS. The Project’s legal strategies are built on the idea that fighting for civil rights means not only persuading judges but also ultimately changing the way people think. As the Project litigates for change, it implements targeted media, online and outreach campaigns to change public attitudes through education and to give people on the frontlines the tools they need to act. As a part of the ACLU, the Project is in a unique position to work for equality. The ACLU’s national network of affiliates broadens the Project’s reach into every locality and into the federal government. Today, the ACLU brings more LGBT cases and advocacy initiatives than any other national civil rights organization. The Project strives to ensure that the racial and economic diversity of the LGBT community is reflected in its work and continues to explore ways to make its efforts more sensitive to the needs of people of color and people who are economically disadvantaged. The Project’s work as part of the broad civil liberties agenda of the ACLU exemplifies the notion that the LGBT community and the community of those living with HIV/AIDS must work in concert with other social change movements in order to achieve a just society for all. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Spring Legal Internship offers Legal Interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The Internship requires a minimum commitment of 12 to 16 hours per week and is part-time. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student’s law school for work/study stipends or course credit. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the LGBT and AIDS Project team. Interns will gain experience by:  Conducting factual and legal research.  Assisting in the drafting of pleadings, briefs and other litigation documents.  Researching and drafting materials for public education.  Researching prospects for new litigation, including both factual and legal claims. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS This Legal Internship is open to first and second year law students who possess the following:  Excellent research, writing, analytical and communication skills.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  The ability to work with a wide range of people.  Familiarity with civil rights and civil liberties issues affecting LGBT people and those living with HIV/AIDS is desirable; commitment to these issues is essential HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and a legal writing sample to hrjobsLGBTintern at aclu.org - reference [LGBT Spring 2013 Legal Internship] in subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to LGBT & AIDS Project postings.In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Law Student Intern Program American Civil Liberties Union Foundation RE: LGBT Spring 2013 Legal Internship 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis. Hiring for Spring 2013 Legal Interns is expected to be completed by December 1, 2012. Applicants are strongly encouraged to submit their materials as early as possible. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” Summer 2013 Legal Internship-ACLUF Racial Justice Program, NY Office: Legal Internships Location: New York September 24, 2012 SUMMER 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO ALL LAW STUDENTS AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION Racial Justice Program, NY The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), founded in 1920, is a nationwide nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, with more than 500,000 members and is dedicated to the principles of liberty and equality embodied in the U.S. Constitution. The Racial Justice Program of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Summer of 2013. OVERVIEW The ACLU’s Racial Justice Program (RJP) aims to preserve and extend constitutionally guaranteed rights as well as other rights, to segments of the population that historically have been denied those rights on the basis of race, ethnicity or national origin. Interns will work with an experienced team of racial justice attorneys in the ACLU’s New York City National Office on a broad range of issues, particularly in the areas of criminal justice and education. In the area of criminal justice, RJP is dedicated to reducing the unwarranted targeting of people of color and the racially disproportionate imposition of incarceration. It has filed civil challenges to the inadequate provision of defense to adult and juvenile indigents and pre- and post-9/11 racial profiling. In the area of education, RJP seeks to ensure that all children have access to quality education, regardless of race or ethnicity. It has undertaken advocacy, including public education and community organizing, against the school-to-prison pipeline. The Racial Justice Program has sought to promote school desegregation and affirmative action programs. RJP also has advocated before international human rights bodies on behalf of formerly incarcerated people and people displaced by Hurricane Katrina. INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW The Racial Justice Program is offering Legal Interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. The Internship requires a 10 to 12 week commitment. Because this is an unpaid internship, students are highly encouraged to seek support for Public Interest Fellowship stipends. Arrangements can also be made with the student's law school for work/study stipends or course credit. Summer Legal Interns who do not secure funding will be eligible for a stipend provided by RJP. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the RJP team. Interns will assist in all aspects of litigation. Interns will gain experience by working on the following:  Conducting factual and legal research.  Drafting pleadings, briefs and other litigation documents.  Researching prospects for new litigation, including factual and legal claims.  Assisting in the preparation of expert and percipient witnesses for courtroom testimony. DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The opportunity is open to all law students who will have completed their first year of law school before the internship commences. Applicants should possess:  Excellent research, writing, analytical and communication skills.  The initiative to see projects through to completion.  A demonstrated commitment to racial justice issues, civil rights, and civil liberties. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a letter of interest, a resume and two references, an official or unofficial transcript, and a legal writing sample of no more than ten pages in length, via email to hrjobsRJP at aclu.org reference RJP Summer 2013 Legal Internship in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Racial Justice Program postings.In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Julian Letton Law Student Intern Program American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. Students are encouraged to submit applications as early as possible, as decisions are made on a rolling basis. Applications from second year law students must be postmarked no later than November 15, 2012. Applications from first year law students must be postmarked no later than December 15, 2012. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage any applicants who need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU” Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Mon Mar 18 22:29:12 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:29:12 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: OPENING: Experienced Attorney, U.S. Attorney's Office - D. Colorado (Denver) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ec01ce2428$045ba610$0d12f230$@labarrelaw.com> From: Parker, Richard L. (OAAG) [mailto:Richard.L.Parker2 at usdoj.gov] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:32 PM To: 'Patricia Ferguson'; 'eleanorthompson at sbcglobal.net'; 'meshach.rhoades at qwest.com'; 'CDeherrera at BHFS.com'; 'ajordan20 at gmail.com'; 'rlopez at da.state.nm.us'; 'george.chen at bryancave.com'; 'gshishima at fulbright.com'; 'membership at apabacolorado.org'; 'pscha at coorstek.com'; 'fhardy at gordonrees.com'; 'kbemis at burgsimpson.com'; 'Ryann at harrisfamilylaw.com'; 'c.mares at csc.state.co.us'; 'ajdeherrera at gmail.com'; 'weddlej at gtlaw.com'; 'slabarre at labarrelaw.com'; 'info at samcarybar.net'; 'Alexia Fay McCaskill'; 'careers at law.du.edu'; 'gkeahey at law.du.edu'; 'Baker, Trey' Subject: OPENING: Experienced Attorney, U.S. Attorney's Office - D. Colorado (Denver) I would like to share with you and ask you to disseminate the following vacancy announcement. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Colorado is currently interviewing for an Assistant United States Attorney to serve as a member of the Civil Division in its Denver office. Justice seeks to attract, retain, and promote individuals of exceptional ability and talent from all walks of life. The work environment and atmosphere is open, diverse, collegial, and inclusive. There are active affinity groups for African-American; Asian-American; Hispanic; lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT); and Native American employees, which are open to all DOJ employees regardless of background. Justice fosters a work environment where people of all backgrounds and experiences may reach their full potential. Thank you for your help in disseminating this vacancy announcement. This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at: http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/attvacancies.html. ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNITED STATES ATORNEY'S OFFICE DISTRICT OF COLORADO VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT NO: 13-CO-858778-AUSA-04 About the Office: The District of Colorado is an energetic District comprised of 69 attorneys located in three staffed offices: Denver, Durango and Grand Junction. Responsibilities and Opportunities Offered: The U.S. Attorney's Office is currently interviewing for an Assistant United States Attorney to serve as a member of the Civil Division. The attorney will represent the United States and its agencies and employees in civil cases across a wide variety of practice areas. The attorney will handle all aspects of civil litigation, including taking depositions, writing briefs, and appearing in hearings and trials in court. The attorney must have a very strong ability to analyze complex legal and factual issues, write clearly and persuasively, possess a strong work ethic, exhibit good organizational skills, exercise fair and sound judgment, pay careful attention to facts and details, follow all Department of Justice and United States Attorney's Office policies, work well both independently and on a team, be ready and willing to volunteer to help other attorneys, be able to negotiate effectively with opposing counsel, handle matters in court persuasively and justly on behalf of the United States of America, and be devoted to excellence. Type of Position: All initial attorney appointments to the Department of Justice are made on a 14 month (temporary) basis pending favorable adjudication of a background investigation. Who May Apply: All United States Citizens Qualifications: Required Qualifications: Applicants must possess a J.D. degree, be an active member of the bar (any jurisdiction), and have at least 1 year post-J.D. legal or other relevant experience. Preferred Qualifications: Excellent writing and speaking skills, strong work ethic, character, dedication, and interest in public service, interest in handling a wide variety of challenging cases on behalf of the United States of America, and the ability to work well both independently and on teams with others on complex cases are all highly desired. Travel: Occasional travel within and outside the District will be required. Salary Information: Assistant United States Attorneys' pay is administratively determined based, in part, on the number of years of professional experience. The range of basic pay is $44,581 to $131,534 plus locality pay where authorized. The current locality adjustment to the base pay for Denver is 22.52%. Location: Denver, Colorado Relocation Expenses: Relocation expenses will not be authorized. Application Process and Deadline Date: Applications may be submitted online through the following link: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/339912100 This announcement is open until Monday, April 8, 2013. No telephone calls please. Applications must be submitted online. Each application must include a one-page resume. Security Requirements: Initial appointment is conditioned upon a satisfactory preemployment adjudication. This includes fingerprint and credit checks, and drug testing. In addition, continued employment is subject to a favorable adjudication of a background investigation. Internet Sites: The home page for the U.S. Attorney's Office, District of Colorado, may be accessed at: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/co/ This and other attorney vacancy announcements can be found at: http://dojnet.doj.gov/oarm/attvacancies.php Department Policies: Assistant United States Attorneys generally must reside in the district to which he or she is appointed or within 25 miles thereof. See 28 U.S.C. § 545 for district-specified information. The U.S. Department of Justice is an Equal Opportunity/Reasonable Accommodation Employer. Except where otherwise provided by law, there will be no discrimination because of color, race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, marital status, disability (physical or mental), age, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, genetic information, status as a parent, membership or non-membership in an employee organization, on the basis of personal favoritism, or any non merit factor. The Department of Justice welcomes and encourages applications from persons with physical and mental disabilities. The Department is firmly committed to satisfying its affirmative obligations under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, to ensure that persons with disabilities have every opportunity to be hired and advanced on the basis of merit within the Department of Justice. This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please notify the agency. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis. It is the policy of the Department to achieve a drug-free workplace and persons selected for employment will be required to pass a drug test which screens for illegal drug use prior to final appointment. Employment is also contingent upon the completion and satisfactory adjudication of a background investigation. Only U.S. citizens are eligible for employment with the Executive Office for Immigration Review and the United States Attorneys' Offices. Unless otherwise indicated in a particular job advertisement, non-U.S. Citizens may apply for employment with other organizations, but should be advised that appointments of non-U.S. Citizens are extremely rare; such appointments would be possible only if necessary to accomplish the Department's mission and would be subject to strict security requirements. Applicants who hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and another country will be considered on a case-by-case basis. There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Department of Justice considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. Applicants eligible for veterans' preference must include that information in their cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., the DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty and other supporting documentation) to their submissions. Although the "point" system is not used, per se, applicants eligible to claim 10-point preference must submit Standard Form (SF) 15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, and submit the supporting documentation required for the specific type of preference claimed (visit the OPM website, www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF15.pdf for a copy of SF 15, which lists the types of 10-point preferences and the required supporting document(s). Applicants should note that SF 15 requires supporting documentation associated with service-connected disabilities or receipt of nonservice-connected disability pensions to be dated 1991 or later except in the case of service members submitting official statements or retirement orders from a branch of the Armed Forces showing that his or her retirement was due to a permanent service-connected disability or that he/she was transferred to the permanent disability retired list (the statement or retirement orders must indicate that the disability is 10% or more). * * * The Department of Justice cannot control further dissemination and/or posting of information contained in this vacancy announcement. Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department of the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information. Benefits: The Federal government offers a number of exceptional benefits to its employees. The following Web addresses are provided for your reference to explore the major benefits offered to most Federal employees. Flexible Spending Accounts – The Federal Flexible Spending Accounts Program (FSAFeds) allows you to pay for certain health and dependent care expenses with pre-tax dollars. For additional information visit: https://www.fsafeds.com/fsafeds/index.asp Health Insurance – The Federal Employees Health Benefits Program offers over 100 optional plans. For additional information visit: http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/index.asp Leave – Most Federal employees earn both annual and sick leave. For additional information visit: http://www.opm.gov/oca/leave/Index.asp Life Insurance – The Federal Employees' Group Life Insurance Program (FEGLI) offers: Basic Life Insurance plus three types of optional insurance, for additional information visit: http://www.opm.gov/insure/life/ Long Term Care Insurance – The Federal Long Term Care Insurance Program (FLTCIP) provides long term care insurance for Federal employees and their parents, parents-in-law, stepparents, spouses, and adult children. For additional information visit: http://www.ltcfeds.com/ Retirement Program – Almost all new employees are automatically covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS). FERS is a three-tiered retirement plan. The three tiers are: Social Security Benefits, Basic Benefit Plan, Thrift Savings Plan. For additional information visit: http://www.opm.gov/retire/index.aspx Federal Holidays – You will be paid for federal holidays that fall within your regularly scheduled tour of duty. For additional information visit: http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2012.asp Transit Subsidy – Our office currently offers an ECO pass for those employees utilizing public transportation offered by RTD (Regional Transportation District). This includes buses and light rail. This pass is currently available through December 31, 2013 and may or may not be extended depending on whether the transit subsidy program is continued by the Department of Justice. From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Mar 20 12:40:36 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:40:36 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Free Eye Exams for Service Dogs In-Reply-To: <002701ce2190$84283d80$8c78b880$@net> References: <002701ce2190$84283d80$8c78b880$@net> Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906683@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> From: Jacob Casper [mailto:jarucasper at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:20 AM To: Gary Norman; Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Subject: FW: Free Eye Exams for Service Dogs FYI. Click on flyer for details about free eye exams for service dogs in May and forward to any of your friends with service dogs too. Jack From: Steve Steinberg [mailto:vrasteve at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:28 PM To: undisclosed recipients Subject: Free Eye Exams for Service Dogs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Service Dog Flyer 2013.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 126201 bytes Desc: Service Dog Flyer 2013.pdf URL: From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Mar 20 13:02:42 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:02:42 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01> <9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov> Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> >-----Original Message----- >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers >Face Bias > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to >Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > >The Wall Street Journal > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, according to >a new study. They also believe blind workers are more prone to workplace >accidents and less reliable than other workers. >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit National >Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and hiring managers at >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned the >survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 million people >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey results >as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs that require >driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a person who's blind is not >capable of doing," he says. > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what they >do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and train >disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than human-resources >managers, but overall results were similar. > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were few >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% said >accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees need >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more likely to >have work-related accidents. > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more sensitive" >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more difficult >to supervise." > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees are not >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees have a >higher absentee rate. > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about employees >with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: Last August, >Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay $50,000 to >settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind employee, the AP reported. >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the Royal >Bank of Scotland Group >> lost a suit banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seeking >disability benefits. > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, based in >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to man its >factory, according to the New York Times >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was no >difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to that of >other U.S. manufacturers. > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans with >Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to change font >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows computers to >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. The >American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >cost less than $1,000. > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number of >incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no evidence >suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. >Lynch says. > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul >University study >mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with disabilities >were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on average, than >employees without disabilities. > >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month period. >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. > > > > > >__._,_.___ >Reply via web post >dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic >pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > Messages in this topic >MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) >Recent Activity: > >Visit Your Group >BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> >Visit us on the web at >http://FedAccessibility.org/ >Yahoo! Groups >ycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNs >awNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM2MzcyOTA1Nw--> >Switch to: Text-Only traditional at yahoogroups.com?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional> >, Daily Digest digest at yahoogroups.com?subject=Email Delivery: Digest> * Unsubscribe >unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Terms of Use > * Send us Feedback >redesigned individual mail v1> . > >8/msgId=1884/stime=1363729057> > >__,_._,___ > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"American Association of Visually Impaired Attorneys - AAVIA" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to aavia+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to aavia at googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/aavia?hl=en. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ State-affiliate-leadership-list mailing list State-affiliate-leadership-list at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/state-affiliate-leadership-list_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for State-affiliate-leadership-list: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/state-affiliate-leadership-list_nfbnet.org/mika_pyyhkala%40nhp.org From mikefry79 at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 15:43:36 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:43:36 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01> <9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov> <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > >Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, according to > >a new study. They also believe blind workers are more prone to workplace > >accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit National > >Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned the > >survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey results > >as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs that require > >driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what they > >do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and train > >disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than human-resources > >managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% said > >accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more difficult > >to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees have a > >higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about employees > >with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: Last August, > >Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay $50,000 to > >settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the Royal > >Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seeking > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was no > >difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to that of > >other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans with > >Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. The > >American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number of > >incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no evidence > >suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul > >University study > > >mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with disabilities > >were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on average, than > >employees without disabilities. > > > >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer > >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month period. > >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. > > > > > > > > > > > >__._,_.___ > >Reply via web post > > >dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 > >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender > > >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl > >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group > > >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi > >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic > > >pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > > Messages in this topic > > >MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ > >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb > >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) > >Recent Activity: > > > >Visit Your Group > > >BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT > >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > >Visit us on the web at > >http://FedAccessibility.org/ > >Yahoo! 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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:44:40 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: <302313741A3442E0801326D684D486AF@victory2> I wish the B.E.P. could be reformed such that it would permit one to rent a frestanding building and run the business like any other entrepreneur does. My biggest beef with the B.E.P. has to do with being located in a government building of some kind and being tied strictly to when the said office is opened or closed. I like being able to determine my own hours of operation. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Wed Mar 20 17:59:56 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:59:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > >Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, according > >to > >a new study. They also believe blind workers are more prone to workplace > >accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit National > >Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned the > >survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey > >results > >as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs that require > >driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what they > >do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and train > >disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than human-resources > >managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% said > >accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more difficult > >to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees have a > >higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about employees > >with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: Last August, > >Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay $50,000 to > >settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the Royal > >Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seeking > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was no > >difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to that of > >other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans with > >Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. The > >American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number of > >incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no evidence > >suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul > >University study > > >mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with disabilities > >were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on average, than > >employees without disabilities. > > > >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer > >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month period. > >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. > > > > > > > > > > > >__._,_.___ > >Reply via web post > > >dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 > >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender > > >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl > >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group > > >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi > >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic > > >pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > > Messages in this topic > > >MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ > >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb > >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) > >Recent Activity: > > > >Visit Your Group > > >BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT > >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > >Visit us on the web at > >http://FedAccessibility.org/ > >Yahoo! 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Many sighted men wouldn't do that. Your decision shows both guts and heart, and it seems to me that employers with these qualities should appreciate you whether you are blind or sighted. These qualities have probably shone through in your federal practice, and I wonder whether you have scouted out potential references yet. I'd bet there are plenty of colleagues, supervisors, judges, etc. etc. who would vouch for your professional attributes. Maybe, too, there are other federal offices, though maybe not in your current agency, in the city and state you're moving to. If so, you may have the advantage of already being a federal attorney. What I'm trying to say is that, even with all the prejudice out there regarding blind employees, you may be a lot more desirable and marketable as an employee than you think. But I don't minimize your anxiety, because I'm feeling a lot of the same thing, coming back into law practice after several years away pursuing other dreams. It just seems to me, though, that you have proven your worth as a lawyer, even if you've faced tough workplace challenges, and even if you haven't found all the best answers as to how to meet them. Just for your own comfort, maybe this might be a good time to shore up any blindness related workplace skills you wish you could have devoted time to during those hectic trial days, or maybe brush up on the law generally, especially if you have to take a bar exam. I highly recommend BARBRI for the bar review. Even if you don't sit for an exam, the omnibus review of the law you get, combined with their pretty-darn-good ADA accommodations, could do a lot to still those tummy butterflies. I'd be happy to communicate off list about this, if you'd like. My iPhone address is rene0373 at gmail.com. Hang in there, and good luck. Elizabeth From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Mar 20 18:31:07 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:31:07 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It > >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face > >Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, > >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more > >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit > >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and > >hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 > >million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey > >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs > >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a > >person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what > >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than > >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% > >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more > >likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more > >difficult to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees > >have a higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about > >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: > >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed > > >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay > >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind > >employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the > >Royal Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, > >based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to > >man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was > >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to > >that of other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans > >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to > >change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number > >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no > >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected > at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when > things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they > let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the > SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish > house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been > difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to > make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into > a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I > won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the > right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job > is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, > finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because > of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a > BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul >> >University study >> >> >o mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with >> >disabilities were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on >> >average, than employees without disabilities. >> > >> >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer >> >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month > period. >> >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__._,_.___ >> >Reply via web post >> >> >z dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >> >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 >> >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender >> >> >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl >> >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group >> >> >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi >> >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic >> >> >pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >> >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> >> > Messages in this topic >> >> >D MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ >> >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb >> >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) >> >Recent Activity: >> > >> >Visit Your Group >> >> >BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT >> >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> >> >Visit us on the web at >> >http://FedAccessibility.org/ >> >Yahoo! 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I believe Bill may still be on this list. He'd be a good resource for you. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It > >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face > >Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, > >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more > >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit > >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and > >hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 > >million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey > >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs > >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a > >person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what > >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than > >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% > >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more > >likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more > >difficult to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees > >have a higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about > >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: > >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed > > >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay > >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind > >employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the > >Royal Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, > >based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to > >man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was > >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to > >that of other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans > >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to > >change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number > >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no > >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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Registration will close on Sunday, March 24, 2013. Blind Justice: How to Get a Federal Job Introducing the next session in the "Blind Justice" lawyering topics and skills seminar series, hosted by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. The next seminar on practicing law and finding employment as blind attorneys will take place on Monday, March 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time and 12:00 PM Pacific Time via teleconference. This session will be complementary. Attorneys who have navigated the federal job market will share their experiences, tips, and tricks on landing federal jobs. The seminar will highlight the requirements, benefits, and drawbacks of using the Schedule A Hiring Authority for securing federal employment. To register, please send an email to Ronza Othman at rothmanjd at gmail.com. Once you have registered, you will receive the conference call-in information and seminar materials. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Ronza Othman at 708-829-0523 or rothmanjd at gmail.com. Regards, The NABL Board From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Wed Mar 20 19:32:43 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:32:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <001001ce25a1$b19de340$14d9a9c0$@wiennergould.com> Truly the best way to overcome prejudice is to succeed. It's a slow process, but nothing works better. I've had judge's ask me in open court "are you a lawyer". No matter what, you have to keep your cool. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:13 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Susan, I can relate to everything you say about your experiences. I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul >> >University study >> >> >C o mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with >> >disabilities were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on >> >average, than employees without disabilities. >> > >> >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer >> >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month > period. >> >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__._,_.___ >> >Reply via web post >> >> >N z dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >> >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 >> >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender >> >> >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl >> >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group >> >> >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi >> >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic >> >> >N pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ >> >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> >> > Messages in this topic >> >> >o D MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ >> >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb >> >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) >> >Recent Activity: >> > >> >Visit Your Group >> >> >1 BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT >> >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> >> >Visit us on the web at >> >http://FedAccessibility.org/ >> >Yahoo! Groups >> >> >ycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNs >> >awNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM2MzcyOTA1Nw--> >> >Switch to: Text-Only > >traditional at yahoogroups.com?subject=Change Delivery Format: >> >Traditional> , Daily Digest > >digest at yahoogroups.com?subject=Email Delivery: Digest> * >> >Unsubscribe >> >> >unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Terms of Use >> > * Send us Feedback >> >> >redesigned individual mail v1> . >> > >> >> >3 >> >6 >> >8/msgId=1884/stime=1363729057> >> > >> >__,_._,___ >> > >> >-- >> >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >Groups "American Association of Visually Impaired Attorneys - AAVIA" > group. >> >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >send an email to aavia+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> >To post to this group, send email to aavia at googlegroups.com. >> >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/aavia?hl=en. >> >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gma >> i >> l.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcid > on > islaw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40pi > ma > .gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadru > nner.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5691 - Release Date: > 03/20/13 > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From phingus at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 19:33:13 2013 From: phingus at gmail.com (Philip Sklover) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:33:13 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov><0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <4B59224894B74825867582BA043DCA60@moishe> I cannot forget the instance several years ago when I hailed a cab outside my office, wearing a pin-striped suit. The cab driver ask how long had I managed the news stand in my building. At the time, I was the Associate General Counsel of a Federal Agency supervising over 250 attorneys in 23 offices throughout the country. Also, Too often, when I am eating with a colleague or my sighted spouse, some serving staff feels that, because I am visually impaired , I also must be deaf as well. The server asks my companion what I wish to order. As a society, we have a long way to go. Phil Philip B. Sklover -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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I previously sent you a couple separate requests to be registered ... so could please at this point confirm whether or not I am? Cheers, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronza Othman Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder: NABL Seminar Via Conference Call 3-25-13 Please feel free to distribute the below. Registration will close on Sunday, March 24, 2013. Blind Justice: How to Get a Federal Job Introducing the next session in the "Blind Justice" lawyering topics and skills seminar series, hosted by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. The next seminar on practicing law and finding employment as blind attorneys will take place on Monday, March 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM Eastern Time and 12:00 PM Pacific Time via teleconference. This session will be complementary. Attorneys who have navigated the federal job market will share their experiences, tips, and tricks on landing federal jobs. The seminar will highlight the requirements, benefits, and drawbacks of using the Schedule A Hiring Authority for securing federal employment. To register, please send an email to Ronza Othman at rothmanjd at gmail.com. Once you have registered, you will receive the conference call-in information and seminar materials. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Ronza Othman at 708-829-0523 or rothmanjd at gmail.com. Regards, The NABL Board _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Mar 20 19:57:27 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:57:27 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <001001ce25a1$b19de340$14d9a9c0$@wiennergould.com> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <001001ce25a1$b19de340$14d9a9c0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <000c01ce25a5$285f2a40$791d7ec0$@com> I love these war stories; I have a few of my own. Look at the flip side of all of this -- all of us will make money being underestimated by opposing counsel and judges. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. 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Beitz Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Truly the best way to overcome prejudice is to succeed. It's a slow process, but nothing works better. I've had judge's ask me in open court "are you a lawyer". No matter what, you have to keep your cool. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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LaBarre) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:11:01 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <4B59224894B74825867582BA043DCA60@moishe> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov><0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <4B59224894B74825867582BA043DCA60@moishe> Message-ID: <003b01ce25a7$0b945640$22bd02c0$@labarrelaw.com> This string of emails has been most interesting. It reminds me of an article I wrote over ten years ago which was later published in the Braille Monitor in March of 2004. It is called Cab 452 and I paste it below. I think we slowly are turning the tide but this discussion should remind us that we have a long way to go until the day when our society will regard us full participants who happen to interact with the world in a different way. I hope you enjoy the below and sorry for the long posting. Best, Scott Cab 452 by Scott C. LaBarre >From the Editor: Scott LaBarre is a longtime member and leader of the National Federation of the Blind. He currently serves as second vice president of the NFB of Colorado. He, his wife Anahit, and their young son Alexander live in a home in a Denver suburb. The following article appeared in the twenty-fourth Kernel Book, The Car, the Sled, and the Butch Wax. It begins with President Maurer's introduction: Scott LaBarre is president of the National Federation of the Blind's special interest division for blind lawyers. There are elements of humor and irony in his story, which illustrates the profound disconnect that, all too often, still exists between the reality of blindness and the perception of it. Here is what Scott has to say about Cab 452: Scott LaBarre I am a blind lawyer who owns and runs his own firm. Recently I got married, and my wife and I are proudly expecting our first child. We also look with joy towards living in a home that we have just purchased. In other words, I normally think of myself as the typical young professional starting a family and pursuing a career. >From time to time, however, something occurs that reminds me that my blindness makes me vastly different from the average young American professional. Even though I have accomplished much in my life, sometimes people are not able to look past the fact that a blind man is before them, and when they concentrate so heavily on my blindness, their natural tendency is to prescribe to me the characteristics they believe a blind person possesses rather than consider the life I have actually lived. About a year ago I elected to take a cab home from the office for the specific purpose of swinging by the dry cleaner to collect a bunch of clothes I had dropped off the previous day. I needed to collect the clothes because the next day I was flying off on a business trip in connection with one of my cases. After waiting outside of my office building for a short while, Metro Taxi's Cab 452 came speeding up. Soon after getting into the cab, I realized that the driver was in a hurry, because he rapidly flew out of the parking lot. When I told him that I had to make a stop at the dry cleaner, the driver groaned. Upon later reflection I am certain that I unconsciously adopted this guy's impatience. So as we rocketed up to the dry cleaner, my desire was to make the retrieval of my clothes as expeditious as possible. When he said, "We're here," I quickly opened the door and heard a sickening "thunk." The driver had parked his size-twelve cab in a size-ten parking space. You guessed it. I had opened my door onto someone else's vehicle. As I wriggled myself out of the cab, I heard somebody running up and screaming, "You (expletive deleted), you scratched my new SUV!" As soon as this new SUV owner realized that I was blind, he immediately turned his wrath upon the cab driver. Then began an hour-long ordeal. My cab driver's first tongue was not English, and the SUV owner's use of the language was grotesque, to put it kindly. SUV Man screamed at the driver, "How the (expletive deleted) can you park so close to my car and let the blind man out there?" Mr. Cab Driver yelled back, claiming that there was no scratch and that it was not a big deal. He also said, "Give this poor blind guy a break. He couldn't see your stupid car." SUV Man kept yelling at Mr. Cab Driver that he better damn well pay for the repairs. Mr. Cab Driver said, "There is no damage. We're leaving!" SUV Man replied, "There is no (expletive deleted) way you're leaving. I'm calling the police!" >From there the conversation between these gentlemen degenerated quickly while they hurled vicious insults back and forth. They both went into the dry cleaner to accost potential eyewitnesses about what had happened. I followed the quarrelling twosome into the store and attempted to gain their attention. No one was paying me any mind amidst the raging storm of verbal putdowns. We in the National Federation of the Blind often say that we seek to achieve first-class citizenship for the nation's blind. We also say that with such first-class citizenship comes first-class responsibility. At the time this event occurred, I remember feeling at fault for what had happened. I told myself, "You should have been more cautious and opened the door more slowly." I also asked myself what would have happened if I had been a sighted man getting out of the cab? I suspect that the sighted man would bear the responsibility for what had transpired as a result of his lack of caution. On that day I attempted to get the attention of the two men so that I could discuss with them my role in the whole mess. At first they ignored me altogether. Finally I stepped in front of SUV Man and handed him my business card. As I started to say something to him about the fact that he could call me about any potential damages, he said, "You don't have to give me your lawyer's card. You're blind. It's not your fault." Handing the card back to me, he once again said, "I don't need to talk with your lawyer. This stupid cab driver will need a lawyer." Then the cab driver chimed in, "It isn't this blind man's fault. Give the poor guy a break. And I am not the stupid one." I then tried to tell both gentlemen that I was, in fact, a lawyer and that my purpose was to help resolve the dispute. Once again they ignored me and took their battle outside of the store. Later the police did, in fact, arrive. The officer examined SUV Man's vehicle and said that he could see no scratch. The officer spoke with both gentlemen, and they both described me as "this poor blind guy." The officer agreed that whatever had happened was "not the blind guy's fault." The officer never once spoke with me to ask about what had happened. Finally the ordeal came to an end with both combatants yelling at each other and getting in a few last insults. On the way home I attempted to tell the driver of Cab 452 that I felt bad about what had happened. After all, I opened the door onto SUV Man's prized possession. The cab driver stated over and over that "Life must be hard, man. It isn't your fault." I tried repeatedly to explain that my life was fine. When we got to my home, I left the cab, telling him that his supervisor could call me at my law office if there were any lingering questions. Apparently no official action resulted from the incident because I never heard from anyone regarding the matter. Several weeks after the event, Cab 452 once again answered my call for a taxi and again picked me up from my office. The guy immediately said that he was the driver who had taken me to the dry cleaner, and he launched into an account of how stupid and ugly SUV Man had been. Then he asked me, "Is that building your doctor's or counselor's office?" I said, "No," and explained that I was a lawyer and that the building was home to my office. The driver of Cab 452 was shocked. He asked me, "You work? Work as a lawyer?" I again told him what I did for a living, and he repeatedly commented that he was impressed and couldn't believe it. The incident at the dry cleaner and the subsequent ride in Cab 452 are not earth-shattering events but are the kinds of events that remind me that I am not the average young professional chasing the American dream. Such events force me to reflect upon the status of blind people in our society. At the dry cleaner, initially, SUV Man started yelling at me about the alleged damage done to his car. Once he saw my white cane and realized that I was blind, all blame instantaneously shifted to the cab driver. Both at that time and afterwards, the driver made comments that said, in effect, "Give the poor blind guy a break." Does my blindness absolve me of all responsibility in this kind of affair? Arguably, the cab driver probably should not have parked so close to another vehicle. However, maybe I shouldn't have been in such a hurry. Maybe I should have opened the door more slowly and carefully. Certainly SUV Man should not have overreacted and screamed so viciously and made a federal case out of such a small matter. Regardless of how much blame should be assigned to the different individuals, there is no question in my mind that at least part of this accident was directly attributable to me and my actions. Neither the cab driver nor SUV Man nor the police officer ever wanted to hold me responsible in any way. They all agreed that I was faultless because of my blindness. What struck me even more forcefully is the way these gentlemen reacted to the fact that I am a lawyer. Their response was disbelief. When I handed SUV Man my card, he assumed that the card was somebody else's. He did not consider for a moment that I was the lawyer named on the card. The cab driver did not understand until much later that I was a lawyer with my own practice, even though I had explained it several times. When he finally understood that I practiced law, he was shocked, to say the least. Blind people have served as lawyers in our country for decades. In fact, the first president of the National Federation of the Blind, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek, practiced law and taught at a major university starting in the 1930's. Even though there have been many blind lawyers, the gentlemen involved in this incident either could not or would not believe that I, a blind man, was a lawyer. This phenomenon occurs with quite some frequency as I travel through life. Not a month goes by without someone expressing absolute surprise that I am employed as an attorney. When I became blind as a ten-year-old boy, I literally thought that my life was over. In my wildest dreams I never imagined that I could pursue a challenging career, marry a beautiful woman, raise a family, and own a home; but I am doing all those things. The National Federation of the Blind has taught me to believe in myself as a blind person. The Federation has also made me realize that we have an obligation to spread a positive philosophy about blindness and to educate society about the true abilities of the blind. Incidentally, I saw Cab 452's driver recently. His name is Mustafa, and he now has a much broader understanding of how blind people get along in the world. After seeing and listening to me enough times, he has learned that blind persons function in all walks of life and do so well. He is no longer shocked that I am a lawyer, and my blindness does not seem to be something unusual to him or something that should be pitied. Our road to first-class citizenship has been long and hard, but we are getting there. Person by person, action by action, we change what it means to be blind. Cab 452 has reaffirmed my conviction that we will realize a day when the blind are full, first-class citizens in our society. With the work of the National Federation of the Blind and a society willing to listen, that day may not be all that far away. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sklover Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I cannot forget the instance several years ago when I hailed a cab outside my office, wearing a pin-striped suit. The cab driver ask how long had I managed the news stand in my building. At the time, I was the Associate General Counsel of a Federal Agency supervising over 250 attorneys in 23 offices throughout the country. Also, Too often, when I am eating with a colleague or my sighted spouse, some serving staff feels that, because I am visually impaired , I also must be deaf as well. The server asks my companion what I wish to order. As a society, we have a long way to go. Phil Philip B. Sklover -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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I would usually ask the person to blindfold themselves and try getting through one day of work, then come tell me how they would answer their questions were they blind. Not one of them did it, not one of them offered to do it and not one of them ever replied. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:31 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It > >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face > >Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, > >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more > >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit > >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and > >hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 > >million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey > >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs > >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a > >person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what > >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than > >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% > >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more > >likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more > >difficult to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees > >have a higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about > >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: > >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed > > >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay > >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind > >employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the > >Royal Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, > >based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to > >man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was > >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to > >that of other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans > >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to > >change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number > >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no > >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. A DePaul > >University study > > >o mprehensiveResults.pdf> from 2007 found that employees with > >disabilities were likely to stay on the job four months longer, on > >average, than employees without disabilities. > > > >The study also found that workers with disabilities took 1.24 fewer > >scheduled absences than non-disabled workers during a six-month period. > >But they took, on average, 1.13 more days of unscheduled absences. > > > > > > > > > > > >__._,_.___ > >Reply via web post > > >z dWlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2 > >MzcyOTA1Nw--?act=reply&messageNum=1884> Reply to sender > > >20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hiring%2C%20Bl > >ind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Reply to group > > >The%20Wall%20Street%20Journal%3A%20When%20It%20Comes%20to%20Hi > >ring%2C%20Blind%20Workers%20Face%20Bias> Start a New Topic > > >pdjZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQ > >wNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > > Messages in this topic > > >D MTM1ZGlwMHZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQ > >DMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAMxODg0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3Rpb > >WUDMTM2MzcyOTA1NwR0cGNJZAMxODg0> (1) > >Recent Activity: > > > >Visit Your Group > > >BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc2Mzk2NzEzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNT > >M2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjM3MjkwNTc-> > >Visit us on the web at > >http://FedAccessibility.org/ > >Yahoo! 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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:32:26 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Message-ID: <91DA5C3DFCBD4FE68EB4F80AC8857AA3@victory2> Mr. Alcidonis, well said. A factor that I believe contributes to gross unemployment amongst the blind is the high cost of adaptive technology. The price of adaptive equipment HAS NEVER GONE DOWN for any reason known or yet to be known. The argument has always been that it's a small market. Adaptive technology developers barely provide support for a good deal of mainstream software, especially those needed in professional settings like law, accounting, etc. Blind colleagues in the proverbial third world countries who barely have any access to adaptive technology are often amazed when I tell them that there is gross unemployment and underemployment amongst the blind in the United States! Most of them don't believe this to be the case in a super-power nation like the United States. Like you, I sure hope that the organizations who claim to serve the blind will truly find a better way of addressing the issue a bit better than what trhey are doing currently. I'm sitting here wondering how much longer it will be fore the Dept. of Treasury to come up with a way of making the dollar bill easily identifiable without me having to use 500 talking gadgets to do so. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Mar 20 20:41:33 2013 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:41:33 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <010101ce25a7$d391ffd0$7ab5ff70$@sbcglobal.net> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <010101ce25a7$d391ffd0$7ab5ff70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Dan: That's definitely something I would like to see - my supervisor and I actually laugh about the list of people we have on our joint list of people who need to be forcibly blindfolded for a day or two. If nothing else, we might all get some fun stories out of it, if not always a true understanding! Susan -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:17 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias Susan: During my 23 active years of prosecution and criminal defense work, I was asked the questions you mention. I would usually ask the person to blindfold themselves and try getting through one day of work, then come tell me how they would answer their questions were they blind. Not one of them did it, not one of them offered to do it and not one of them ever replied. Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:31 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual impairment. Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person make? Mike On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On > >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM > >To: aavia at googlegroups.com > >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind > Workers > >Face Bias > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM > >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' > >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) > >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It > >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face > >Bias > > > > > > > > > >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > > > > >The Wall Street Journal > > > >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > >By Leslie Kwoh > > > >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain skeptical. > > > >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, > >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more > >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. > >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit > >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and > >hiring managers > at > >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 > >million > people > >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are > >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) > > > >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey > >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs > >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a > >person who's blind > is not > >capable of doing," he says. > > > > > > > >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what > >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. > > > >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than > >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. > > > >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there were > few > >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% > >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." > > > >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind employees > need > >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more > >likely > to > >have work-related accidents. > > > >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more > sensitive" > >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more > >difficult to supervise." > > > >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind employees > are not > >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees > >have a higher absentee rate. > > > >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about > >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: > >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed > > >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay > >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind > >employee, the AP > reported. > >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the > >Royal Bank of Scotland Group > > >> lost a suit >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing > >disability benefits. > > > >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, > >based > in > >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to > >man > its > >factory, according to the New York Times > > >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was > >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to > >that of other U.S. manufacturers. > > > >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable > >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans > >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to > >change > font > >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows > computers to > >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated > > >ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations > >cost less than $1,000. > > > >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number > >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no > >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other workers, Mr. > >Lynch says. > > > >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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The practice here is that the defense lawyer begins to speak as soon as the case is called, to give the judge a summary of the case and mount some preliminary arguments. The prosecutor responds thereafter. In that particular case, the judge stopped me immediately after I said, "Rod Alcidonis Your Honor with Alcidonis Law Office on behalf of the defendant" and quickly ruled on my case. Then she said, "you are excused." Folks, judges excuse the defendants, not the lawyers. Usually judges say to the lawyers, Mr. So and so, have a nice day. Until today, unless someone told her at the end that I was, in fact the attorney for the defendant, she thought I was actually the defendant for the entire two minutes exchange. I will probably never get to appear before her a second time as I no longer practice criminal defense. I have had courthouse staff taking my client as the lawyer and me as the client all the time. Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com www.Alcidonislaw.com No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury -----Original Message----- From: Russell J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias I love these war stories; I have a few of my own. Look at the flip side of all of this -- all of us will make money being underestimated by opposing counsel and judges. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. 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Beitz Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Truly the best way to overcome prejudice is to succeed. It's a slow process, but nothing works better. I've had judge's ask me in open court "are you a lawyer". No matter what, you have to keep your cool. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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Message-ID: hi, is anyone else using these in combination? I do not find jaws particularly good, when it comes to work site. Ger From william_t_miller at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 23:30:26 2013 From: william_t_miller at hotmail.com (William T. Miller) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:30:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool Message-ID: Dear list: Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of completing your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament selection and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! Thank you, Will From rfarber at jw.com Wed Mar 20 23:41:27 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:41:27 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A209607EDBAC@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Ger - I am using Jaws 13 with filesite on a Windows 7 computer. We found that you cannot make many changes to the Windows settings and everything has to be maximized. You will need to have someone help you set-up the column order and widths in your filesite views so that the information that you need is avaiilable. Also, we had to teach Jaws the prompts for some of the search screens. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:24 PM To: blindlaw; soviluk Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? hi, is anyone else using these in combination? I do not find jaws particularly good, when it comes to work site. Ger _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Mar 20 23:49:02 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:49:02 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><001001ce25a1$b19de340$14d9a9c0$@wiennergould.com> <000c01ce25a5$285f2a40$791d7ec0$@com> Message-ID: <001c01ce25c5$80270930$80751b90$@com> This used to happen on occasion in California several years ago until judges and court staff received diversity training. It doesn’t happen any more. Tell people in Pennsylvania that we are in the 21st century. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:56 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I appeared in a criminal matter on behalf of my client in April 2012 in Philadelphia County. The practice here is that the defense lawyer begins to speak as soon as the case is called, to give the judge a summary of the case and mount some preliminary arguments. The prosecutor responds thereafter. In that particular case, the judge stopped me immediately after I said, "Rod Alcidonis Your Honor with Alcidonis Law Office on behalf of the defendant" and quickly ruled on my case. Then she said, "you are excused." Folks, judges excuse the defendants, not the lawyers. Usually judges say to the lawyers, Mr. So and so, have a nice day. Until today, unless someone told her at the end that I was, in fact the attorney for the defendant, she thought I was actually the defendant for the entire two minutes exchange. I will probably never get to appear before her a second time as I no longer practice criminal defense. I have had courthouse staff taking my client as the lawyer and me as the client all the time. Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com www.Alcidonislaw.com No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury -----Original Message----- From: Russell J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias I love these war stories; I have a few of my own. Look at the flip side of all of this -- all of us will make money being underestimated by opposing counsel and judges. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Truly the best way to overcome prejudice is to succeed. It's a slow process, but nothing works better. I've had judge's ask me in open court "are you a lawyer". No matter what, you have to keep your cool. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:13 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Susan, I can relate to everything you say about your experiences. I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> I have used these together and am now using JAWS 14, which does not work as well as 13 did, particularly with regard to braille content. Freedom Scientific has asked me if I am aware of others experiencing issues. I would ask that you contact their technical support staff to let them know you are also experiencing issues. Having said that, I'm happy to discuss strategies for dealing with certain aspects of WorkSite, if you think that would be helpful. Thank you, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:24 PM To: blindlaw; soviluk Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? hi, is anyone else using these in combination? I do not find jaws particularly good, when it comes to work site. Ger _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Mar 20 23:58:18 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:58:18 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501ce25c6$cbbd0d80$63372880$@com> Much appreciated. Some of the more popular bracket sites are a challenge. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William T. Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:30 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool Dear list: Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of completing your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament selection and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! Thank you, Will _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 00:30:37 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:30:37 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: hi, I am happy to indicate that I am having some problems and that I do not think jaws 13 works well with file site. May I ask however if you have found that freedom scientific have any solutions to offer? I simply do not have time to enter into a lengthy correspondence with that firm, unless there will be some tangible result. I do not use braill, on my pc, in an office environment. I note randys points. I can navigate the document folders in file site no problem. One significant difficulty I have is that jaws does not read out the subject line of emails, when browsing through a list. It reads out worksite, followed by the subject, which is often abbreviated. This costs me considerable time. I share randys frustration at the search box. After considerable time, I have figured out the various boxes and what each does but I agree that labelling might be helpful. One particular annoyance is that jaws does not read the actual send dialogue in send and file. So you are sending an email. You click send. If worksite has some problem, as where an attachment includes track changes, you will not know using jaws. You are presented with a yes or no dialogue and the question cannot be read. I am having another problem where when I send an email containing attachments outside the firm, my machine sometimes hangs, usually if it has been on for some time or has several windows open. I don't know if jaws really causes this problem though it obviously contributes by using system resources. Any comments or solutions gratefully received. G On 3/20/13, Angela Matney wrote: > I have used these together and am now using JAWS 14, which does not work as > well as 13 did, particularly with regard to braille content. > Freedom Scientific has asked me if I am aware of others experiencing issues. > I would ask that you contact their technical support staff to let them know > you are also experiencing issues. > > Having said that, I'm happy to discuss strategies for dealing with certain > aspects of WorkSite, if you think that would be helpful. > > Thank you, > > Angie > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by > legal > privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. > If > you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by > returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you > for > your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication > and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for > the > purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal > Revenue > Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to > any > person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication > and > any attachments. > > ----------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:24 PM > To: blindlaw; soviluk > Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? > > hi, is anyone else using these in combination? > I do not find jaws particularly good, when it comes to work site. > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From amatney at hf-law.com Thu Mar 21 00:40:16 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:40:16 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Hello: I was told by FS that the matter was more likely to receive attention if other people reported issues; therefore, while I understand (and share) your reluctance to spend a great deal of time dealing with tech-support, I have to point out that problems are less likely to be addressed if FS thinks I am the only person anywhere using this software. Here are a few ideas: When reading emails, try pressing control-space to de-select the email. This causes JAWS to read additional information (on my system, anyway). When you are ready to press enter on the email, press control-space again. Re: the send dialogue: have you tried navigating with the JAWS cursor or using insert-B to read the dialogue box? I find I can generally figure out what the issue is, though I admit it is not often pretty. Good luck, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:31 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? hi, I am happy to indicate that I am having some problems and that I do not think jaws 13 works well with file site. May I ask however if you have found that freedom scientific have any solutions to offer? I simply do not have time to enter into a lengthy correspondence with that firm, unless there will be some tangible result. I do not use braill, on my pc, in an office environment. I note randys points. I can navigate the document folders in file site no problem. One significant difficulty I have is that jaws does not read out the subject line of emails, when browsing through a list. It reads out worksite, followed by the subject, which is often abbreviated. This costs me considerable time. I share randys frustration at the search box. After considerable time, I have figured out the various boxes and what each does but I agree that labelling might be helpful. One particular annoyance is that jaws does not read the actual send dialogue in send and file. So you are sending an email. You click send. If worksite has some problem, as where an attachment includes track changes, you will not know using jaws. You are presented with a yes or no dialogue and the question cannot be read. I am having another problem where when I send an email containing attachments outside the firm, my machine sometimes hangs, usually if it has been on for some time or has several windows open. I don't know if jaws really causes this problem though it obviously contributes by using system resources. Any comments or solutions gratefully received. G On 3/20/13, Angela Matney wrote: > I have used these together and am now using JAWS 14, which does not > work as well as 13 did, particularly with regard to braille content. > Freedom Scientific has asked me if I am aware of others experiencing issues. > I would ask that you contact their technical support staff to let them > know you are also experiencing issues. > > Having said that, I'm happy to discuss strategies for dealing with > certain aspects of WorkSite, if you think that would be helpful. > > Thank you, > > Angie > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected > by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or > any attachment is prohibited. > If > you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately > by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be > imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice > be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction > or matter that is the subject of this communication and any > attachments. > > ----------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:24 PM > To: blindlaw; soviluk > Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? > > hi, is anyone else using these in combination? > I do not find jaws particularly good, when it comes to work site. > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law > .com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 00:58:15 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:58:15 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: hi, I note your point re f s.a. I am very happy to email them and let them know that I am using file site and their program and that I am having all the problems listed in my previous emai. If there is someone in particular I should email, please can you send me there address. Beyond doing that, I don't know how much further help I can be with f s.a. I have tried both insert b and jaws cursor on the send dialogue I mentioned without any joy. I can figure out what's going on but it makes me anxious, esp as it is in the process of sending documentation externally. my email reading issue is more a question of speed when browsing. Finally does anyone else have the same issues with their computer hanging? It would be good to establish if this is a jaws issue or not. Access to the worksite tool bar would be good but is unlikely. G On 3/21/13, Angela Matney wrote: > Hello: > > I was told by FS that the matter was more likely to receive attention if > other people reported issues; therefore, while I understand (and share) your > reluctance to spend a great deal of time dealing with tech-support, I have > to point out that problems are less likely to be addressed if FS thinks I am > the only person anywhere using this software. > > Here are a few ideas: > > When reading emails, try pressing control-space to de-select the email. This > causes JAWS to read additional information (on my system, anyway). When you > are ready to press enter on the email, press control-space again. > > Re: the send dialogue: have you tried navigating with the JAWS cursor or > using insert-B to read the dialogue box? I find I can generally figure out > what the issue is, though I admit it is not often pretty. > > Good luck, > > Angie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:31 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? > > hi, > I am happy to indicate that I am having some problems and that I do not > think jaws 13 works well with file site. > May I ask however if you have found that freedom scientific have any > solutions to offer? > I simply do not have time to enter into a lengthy correspondence with that > firm, unless there will be some tangible result. > I do not use braill, on my pc, in an office environment. > I note randys points. > I can navigate the document folders in file site no problem. > One significant difficulty I have is that jaws does not read out the subject > line of emails, when browsing through a list. It reads out worksite, > followed by the subject, which is often abbreviated. > This costs me considerable time. > I share randys frustration at the search box. > After considerable time, I have figured out the various boxes and what each > does but I agree that labelling might be helpful. > > One particular annoyance is that jaws does not read the actual send dialogue > in send and file. > So you are sending an email. You click send. If worksite has some problem, > as where an attachment includes track changes, you will not know using > jaws. > You are presented with a yes or no dialogue and the question cannot be > read. > > I am having another problem where when I send an email containing > attachments outside the firm, my machine sometimes hangs, usually if it has > been on for some time or has several windows open. > I don't know if jaws really causes this problem though it obviously > contributes by using system resources. > Any comments or solutions gratefully received. > G > > On 3/20/13, Angela Matney wrote: >> I have used these together and am now using JAWS 14, which does not >> work as well as 13 did, particularly with regard to braille content. >> Freedom Scientific has asked me if I am aware of others experiencing >> issues. >> I would ask that you contact their technical support staff to let them >> know you are also experiencing issues. >> >> Having said that, I'm happy to discuss strategies for dealing with >> certain aspects of WorkSite, if you think that would be helpful. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> >> Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected >> by legal privilege. 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And I wish to thank you for making available the first, and only, tournament bracket that I have ever been able to make sense of. Please pass my gratitude along to Terry. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William T. Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:30 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool Dear list: Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of completing your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament selection and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! Thank you, Will _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Mar 21 01:03:10 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:03:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <001c01ce25c5$80270930$80751b90$@com> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01><9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov><2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <0491BBB52F09432BBF34B9EEDC19632B@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DB52@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><001001ce25a1$b19de340$14d9a9c0$@wiennergould.com> <000c01ce25a5$285f2a40$791d7ec0$@com> <001c01ce25c5$80270930$80751b90$@com> Message-ID: Russell: I never brought it up because it's not a battle I wanted to fight -- I had too much on my plate. but I practice mainly in civil court right now and it hasn't been happening as frequently. Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com www.Alcidonislaw.com No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury -----Original Message----- From: Russell J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:49 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias This used to happen on occasion in California several years ago until judges and court staff received diversity training. It doesn’t happen any more. Tell people in Pennsylvania that we are in the 21st century. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:56 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I appeared in a criminal matter on behalf of my client in April 2012 in Philadelphia County. The practice here is that the defense lawyer begins to speak as soon as the case is called, to give the judge a summary of the case and mount some preliminary arguments. The prosecutor responds thereafter. In that particular case, the judge stopped me immediately after I said, "Rod Alcidonis Your Honor with Alcidonis Law Office on behalf of the defendant" and quickly ruled on my case. Then she said, "you are excused." Folks, judges excuse the defendants, not the lawyers. Usually judges say to the lawyers, Mr. So and so, have a nice day. Until today, unless someone told her at the end that I was, in fact the attorney for the defendant, she thought I was actually the defendant for the entire two minutes exchange. I will probably never get to appear before her a second time as I no longer practice criminal defense. I have had courthouse staff taking my client as the lawyer and me as the client all the time. Rod Alcidonis, Esquire Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Work: attorney at alcidonislaw.com Listservs: lawoffice at alcidonislaw.com www.Alcidonislaw.com No-fault family law, immigration, and personal injury -----Original Message----- From: Russell J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias I love these war stories; I have a few of my own. Look at the flip side of all of this -- all of us will make money being underestimated by opposing counsel and judges. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Truly the best way to overcome prejudice is to succeed. It's a slow process, but nothing works better. I've had judge's ask me in open court "are you a lawyer". No matter what, you have to keep your cool. ------------------------------------------- Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email conversations) ask if I can read email. Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:13 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias Susan, I can relate to everything you say about your experiences. I had one attorney, a gentleman who had been the attorney general of the State I was living in at the time, ask me, and this is a direct quote: "Did you take the real Bar Exam, or one of those tests for handicapped people?" He compounded things by asking me a follow up question, again a direct quote: "Have you learned how to use a telephone yet?" The two foregoing quotes were spoken to me during a job interview with him. There are just no words. This is not unusual in my experiences over the past 25 years. I would hasten to add that education of such individuals is not as easy as it may sound. It requires a degree of patience and personality management that can tax your blood pressure medications. Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so alien as to be questioned as being the truth. I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in itself was an exercise in education. So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard or experienced to one degree or another on their own. I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's lack of education and resistance to being educated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be > corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already > employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will > they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and > collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, > a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has > been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that > companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees > to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the > "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did > not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a > lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody > -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that > is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted > into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that > I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making > the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a > new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal > vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to > be because of my visual impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise > program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does > a BEP person make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >> >Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >> >To: aavia at googlegroups.com >> >Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >> >Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >> >[mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >> >To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >> >(fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >> >Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >> >Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >> >Bias >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> > >> > >> >The Wall Street Journal >> > >> >* March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >> > >> > >> > >> >By Leslie Kwoh >> > >> >When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >> > >> >Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >> >according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >> >prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >> >The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >> >National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >> >hiring managers >> at >> >a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >> >commissioned > >> >the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >> >million >> people >> >working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >> >eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >> > >> >NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >> >results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >> >that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >> >person who's blind >> is not >> >capable of doing," he says. >> > >> > >> > >> >The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >> >they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >> >and > >> >train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >> > >> >Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >> >human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >> > >> >* Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >> >jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >> >said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >> > >> >* Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >> >someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >> >likely >> to >> >have work-related accidents. >> > >> >* One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >> >than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >> >difficult to supervise." >> > >> >* Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >> >as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >> >have a higher absentee rate. >> > >> >Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >> >employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >> >Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >> >> >electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >> >$50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >> >employee, the AP >> reported. >> >And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >> >Royal Bank of Scotland Group >> >> >N >> >> lost a suit > >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >> >banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >> >disability benefits. >> > >> >Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >> >based >> in >> >West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >> >man >> its >> >factory, according to the New York Times >> >> >maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >> >no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >> >that of other U.S. manufacturers. >> > >> >Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >> >accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >> >with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >> >and > >> >smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >> >change >> font >> >size and light intensity. Installing voice technology that allows >> computers to >> >"read" text to a blind employee costs just $1,500 to $2,000, he says. > >> >The American Foundation for the Blind has estimated >> >> >S ubTopicID=70&DocumentID=2887> that 88% of employee accommodations >> >cost less than $1,000. >> > >> >As for health insurance, company rates are determined by the number >> >of incidents among the entire group - not individual employees - no >> >evidence suggests that blind employees incur more costs than other > workers, Mr. >> >Lynch says. >> > >> >Blind employees may also be more loyal than most, he adds. 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I have, here in Brazil, the same reactions described by you either when I go to court or tell people I am a lawyer. Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Em 20/03/2013, às 17:11, Scott C. LaBarre escreveu: > This string of emails has been most interesting. It reminds me of an > article I wrote over ten years ago which was later published in the Braille > Monitor in March of 2004. It is called Cab 452 and I paste it below. I > think we slowly are turning the tide but this discussion should remind us > that we have a long way to go until the day when our society will regard us > full participants who happen to interact with the world in a different way. > I hope you enjoy the below and sorry for the long posting. > > Best, > Scott > > > Cab 452 > > by Scott C. LaBarre > > From the Editor: Scott LaBarre is a longtime member and leader of the > National Federation of the Blind. He currently serves as second vice > president of the NFB of Colorado. He, his wife Anahit, and their young son > Alexander live in a home in a Denver suburb. The following article appeared > in the twenty-fourth Kernel Book, The Car, the Sled, and the Butch Wax. It > begins with President Maurer's introduction: > > Scott LaBarre is president of the National Federation of the Blind's special > interest division for blind lawyers. There are elements of humor and irony > in his story, which illustrates the profound disconnect that, all too often, > still exists between the reality of blindness and the perception of it. Here > is what Scott has to say about Cab 452: > > > Scott LaBarre > I am a blind lawyer who owns and runs his own firm. Recently I got married, > and my wife and I are proudly expecting our first child. We also look with > joy towards living in a home that we have just purchased. In other words, I > normally think of myself as the typical young professional starting a family > and pursuing a career. > > From time to time, however, something occurs that reminds me that my > blindness makes me vastly different from the average young American > professional. Even though I have accomplished much in my life, sometimes > people are not able to look past the fact that a blind man is before them, > and when they concentrate so heavily on my blindness, their natural tendency > is to prescribe to me the characteristics they believe a blind person > possesses rather than consider the life I have actually lived. > > About a year ago I elected to take a cab home from the office for the > specific purpose of swinging by the dry cleaner to collect a bunch of > clothes I had dropped off the previous day. I needed to collect the clothes > because the next day I was flying off on a business trip in connection with > one of my cases. > > After waiting outside of my office building for a short while, Metro Taxi's > Cab 452 came speeding up. Soon after getting into the cab, I realized that > the driver was in a hurry, because he rapidly flew out of the parking lot. > When I told him that I had to make a stop at the dry cleaner, the driver > groaned. Upon later reflection I am certain that I unconsciously adopted > this guy's impatience. So as we rocketed up to the dry cleaner, my desire > was to make the retrieval of my clothes as expeditious as possible. > > When he said, "We're here," I quickly opened the door and heard a sickening > "thunk." The driver had parked his size-twelve cab in a size-ten parking > space. You guessed it. I had opened my door onto someone else's vehicle. > > As I wriggled myself out of the cab, I heard somebody running up and > screaming, "You (expletive deleted), you scratched my new SUV!" As soon as > this new SUV owner realized that I was blind, he immediately turned his > wrath upon the cab driver. Then began an hour-long ordeal. > > My cab driver's first tongue was not English, and the SUV owner's use of the > language was grotesque, to put it kindly. SUV Man screamed at the driver, > "How the (expletive deleted) can you park so close to my car and let the > blind man out there?" Mr. Cab Driver yelled back, claiming that there was no > scratch and that it was not a big deal. He also said, "Give this poor blind > guy a break. He couldn't see your stupid car." > > SUV Man kept yelling at Mr. Cab Driver that he better damn well pay for the > repairs. Mr. Cab Driver said, "There is no damage. We're leaving!" SUV Man > replied, "There is no (expletive deleted) way you're leaving. I'm calling > the police!" > > From there the conversation between these gentlemen degenerated quickly > while they hurled vicious insults back and forth. They both went into the > dry cleaner to accost potential eyewitnesses about what had happened. I > followed the quarrelling twosome into the store and attempted to gain their > attention. No one was paying me any mind amidst the raging storm of verbal > putdowns. > > We in the National Federation of the Blind often say that we seek to achieve > first-class citizenship for the nation's blind. We also say that with such > first-class citizenship comes first-class responsibility. At the time this > event occurred, I remember feeling at fault for what had happened. I told > myself, "You should have been more cautious and opened the door more > slowly." > > I also asked myself what would have happened if I had been a sighted man > getting out of the cab? I suspect that the sighted man would bear the > responsibility for what had transpired as a result of his lack of caution. > > On that day I attempted to get the attention of the two men so that I could > discuss with them my role in the whole mess. At first they ignored me > altogether. Finally I stepped in front of SUV Man and handed him my business > card. > > As I started to say something to him about the fact that he could call me > about any potential damages, he said, "You don't have to give me your > lawyer's card. You're blind. It's not your fault." Handing the card back to > me, he once again said, "I don't need to talk with your lawyer. This stupid > cab driver will need a lawyer." > > Then the cab driver chimed in, "It isn't this blind man's fault. Give the > poor guy a break. And I am not the stupid one." > > I then tried to tell both gentlemen that I was, in fact, a lawyer and that > my purpose was to help resolve the dispute. Once again they ignored me and > took their battle outside of the store. > > Later the police did, in fact, arrive. The officer examined SUV Man's > vehicle and said that he could see no scratch. The officer spoke with both > gentlemen, and they both described me as "this poor blind guy." The officer > agreed that whatever had happened was "not the blind guy's fault." The > officer never once spoke with me to ask about what had happened. > > Finally the ordeal came to an end with both combatants yelling at each other > and getting in a few last insults. On the way home I attempted to tell the > driver of Cab 452 that I felt bad about what had happened. After all, I > opened the door onto SUV Man's prized possession. The cab driver stated over > and over that "Life must be hard, man. It isn't your fault." I tried > repeatedly to explain that my life was fine. > > When we got to my home, I left the cab, telling him that his supervisor > could call me at my law office if there were any lingering questions. > Apparently no official action resulted from the incident because I never > heard from anyone regarding the matter. > > Several weeks after the event, Cab 452 once again answered my call for a > taxi and again picked me up from my office. The guy immediately said that he > was the driver who had taken me to the dry cleaner, and he launched into an > account of how stupid and ugly SUV Man had been. Then he asked me, "Is that > building your doctor's or counselor's office?" I said, "No," and explained > that I was a lawyer and that the building was home to my office. > > The driver of Cab 452 was shocked. He asked me, "You work? Work as a > lawyer?" I again told him what I did for a living, and he repeatedly > commented that he was impressed and couldn't believe it. The incident at the > dry cleaner and the subsequent ride in Cab 452 are not earth-shattering > events but are the kinds of events that remind me that I am not the average > young professional chasing the American dream. Such events force me to > reflect upon the status of blind people in our society. > > At the dry cleaner, initially, SUV Man started yelling at me about the > alleged damage done to his car. Once he saw my white cane and realized that > I was blind, all blame instantaneously shifted to the cab driver. Both at > that time and afterwards, the driver made comments that said, in effect, > "Give the poor blind guy a break." > > Does my blindness absolve me of all responsibility in this kind of affair? > Arguably, the cab driver probably should not have parked so close to another > vehicle. However, maybe I shouldn't have been in such a hurry. Maybe I > should have opened the door more slowly and carefully. Certainly SUV Man > should not have overreacted and screamed so viciously and made a federal > case out of such a small matter. > > Regardless of how much blame should be assigned to the different > individuals, there is no question in my mind that at least part of this > accident was directly attributable to me and my actions. Neither the cab > driver nor SUV Man nor the police officer ever wanted to hold me responsible > in any way. They all agreed that I was faultless because of my blindness. > > What struck me even more forcefully is the way these gentlemen reacted to > the fact that I am a lawyer. Their response was disbelief. When I handed SUV > Man my card, he assumed that the card was somebody else's. He did not > consider for a moment that I was the lawyer named on the card. The cab > driver did not understand until much later that I was a lawyer with my own > practice, even though I had explained it several times. When he finally > understood that I practiced law, he was shocked, to say the least. > > Blind people have served as lawyers in our country for decades. In fact, the > first president of the National Federation of the Blind, Dr. Jacobus > tenBroek, practiced law and taught at a major university starting in the > 1930's. Even though there have been many blind lawyers, the gentlemen > involved in this incident either could not or would not believe that I, a > blind man, was a lawyer. > > This phenomenon occurs with quite some frequency as I travel through life. > Not a month goes by without someone expressing absolute surprise that I am > employed as an attorney. > > When I became blind as a ten-year-old boy, I literally thought that my life > was over. In my wildest dreams I never imagined that I could pursue a > challenging career, marry a beautiful woman, raise a family, and own a home; > but I am doing all those things. The National Federation of the Blind has > taught me to believe in myself as a blind person. The Federation has also > made me realize that we have an obligation to spread a positive philosophy > about blindness and to educate society about the true abilities of the > blind. > > Incidentally, I saw Cab 452's driver recently. His name is Mustafa, and he > now has a much broader understanding of how blind people get along in the > world. After seeing and listening to me enough times, he has learned that > blind persons function in all walks of life and do so well. He is no longer > shocked that I am a lawyer, and my blindness does not seem to be something > unusual to him or something that should be pitied. > > Our road to first-class citizenship has been long and hard, but we are > getting there. Person by person, action by action, we change what it means > to be blind. Cab 452 has reaffirmed my conviction that we will realize a day > when the blind are full, first-class citizens in our society. With the work > of the National Federation of the Blind and a society willing to listen, > that day may not be all that far away. > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Philip > Sklover > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:33 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > I cannot forget the instance several years ago when I hailed a cab outside > my office, wearing a pin-striped suit. The cab driver ask how long had I > managed the news stand in my building. At the time, I was the Associate > General Counsel of a Federal Agency supervising over 250 attorneys in 23 > offices throughout the country. Also, Too often, when I am eating with a > colleague or my sighted spouse, some serving staff feels that, because I am > visually impaired , I also must be deaf as well. The server asks my > companion what I wish to order. > > As a society, we have a long way to go. > > Phil > > > > Philip B. Sklover > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela > Matney > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > I once had an HR person begin by welcoming me, progress to talking about > someone with intellectual disabilities who was performing another job, and > conclude with, "I've been saying for a long time now that we need to hire > the handicapped--they're really quite trainable." > > I have also had attorneys (with whom I have engaged in extensive email > conversations) ask if I can read email. > > Angie > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler > Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and > any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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It requires a degree of patience and personality management > that can tax your blood pressure medications. > Sighted coworkers or counterparts find this aspect of blindness to be so > alien as to be questioned as being the truth. > I recall explaining the barrage of adaptive software and hardware that I > brought into my office with me when I began my last job, to the office > administrator. She was completely confused as to why I needed to kow so much > about "other software" compared to sighted lawyers in the office. That in > itself was an exercise in education. > So, while "we" need to educate the hiring public and calm their fears, the > entire exercise pre-supposes that they want to hear it in the first place. > IE: it really takes people out of their comfort zone. > I'm sure I haven't said anything here that most on the list have not heard > or experienced to one degree or another on their own. > I'd close by suggesting that being a blind professional requires more > patience and tact than a sighted counterpart, and also requires one to hold > in frustration and at times, curb their temper owing to the hiring public's > lack of education and resistance to being educated. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Kelly" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > >> The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be >> corrected at every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already >> employed when things went from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the > reaction of >> co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent >> and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will >> they let you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and >> collect the SSI benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, >> a newish house, and most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has >> been difficult to avoid questioning their intellectual abilities! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod >> Alcidonis, Esq. >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to >> Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias >> >> The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that >> companies have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees >> to make themselves look good but not really because the person was the >> "most qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did >> not get a job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a >> lack of qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. >> >> The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the >> approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on >> employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> Alcidonis Law Office >> 2824 Cottman Avenue >> Suite 15 >> Philadelphia, PA 19149 >> O: (215) 305-8085 >> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com >> www.alcidonislaw.com >> >> Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody >> -----Original >> Message----- >> From: Michael Fry >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to >> Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >> >> An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a >> visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that >> is almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. >> >> I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm >> leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted >> into a great business school across the country. I am so worried that >> I won't find another job, especially as an attorney. >> >> When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making >> the right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a >> new job is a direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal >> vision, finding a new job would be so much easier than it is going to >> be because of my visual impairment. >> >> Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the >> Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise >> program? If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does >> a BEP person make? >> >> Mike >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < >> Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >>>> To: aavia at googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >>> Workers >>>> Face Bias >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >>>> [mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >>>> To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >>>> (fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >>>> Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >>>> Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >>>> Bias >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >>>> >>>> >>>> The Wall Street Journal >>>> >>>> * March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> By Leslie Kwoh >>>> >>>> When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain >> skeptical. >>>> >>>> Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >>>> according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >>>> prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >>>> The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >>>> National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >>>> hiring managers >>> at >>>> a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group >>>> commissioned >> >>>> the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >>>> million >>> people >>>> working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >>>> eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >>>> >>>> NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >>>> results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >>>> that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >>>> person who's blind >>> is not >>>> capable of doing," he says. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >>>> they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire >>>> and >> >>>> train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >>>> >>>> Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >>>> human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >>>> >>>> * Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there >> were >>> few >>>> jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >>>> said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >>>> >>>> * Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind >> employees >>> need >>>> someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >>>> likely >>> to >>>> have work-related accidents. >>>> >>>> * One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >>> sensitive" >>>> than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >>>> difficult to supervise." >>>> >>>> * Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind >> employees >>> are not >>>> as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >>>> have a higher absentee rate. >>>> >>>> Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >>>> employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >>>> Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >>>> >>> electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >>>> $50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >>>> employee, the AP >>> reported. >>>> And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >>>> Royal Bank of Scotland Group >>>> >>> N >>>>> lost a suit >>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >>>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> see >>>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> k >>>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >>>> disability benefits. >>>> >>>> Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >>>> based >>> in >>>> West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >>>> man >>> its >>>> factory, according to the New York Times >>>> >>> maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >>>> no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >>>> that of other U.S. manufacturers. >>>> >>>> Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >>>> accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >>>> with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers >>>> and >> >>>> smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >>>> change >>> font >>>> size and light intensity. 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Just saying something is off topic doesn't give you the permission to post it. David Andrews, List Owner At 06:30 PM 3/20/2013, William T. Miller wrote: >Dear list: > > > >Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web >accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament >pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in >nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the >document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive >technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of completing >your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. >Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. > > > >I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this >information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could >benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just >completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament selection >and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to >complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start >tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! > > > >Thank you, > > > >Will From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 21 03:09:36 2013 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:09:36 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool References: Message-ID: what's with you lately? it was appreciated by many. btw you may be a list moderator but i don't think you own the list or server. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" ; "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool > Off topic is off topic. Just saying something is off topic doesn't give > you the permission to post it. > > David Andrews, List Owner > > At 06:30 PM 3/20/2013, William T. Miller wrote: >>Dear list: >> >> >> >>Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web >>accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament >>pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in >>nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the >>document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive >>technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of >>completing >>your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. >>Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. >> >> >> >>I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this >>information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could >>benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just >>completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament >>selection >>and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to >>complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start >>tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! >> >> >> >>Thank you, >> >> >> >>Will > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From newsandtraffic at aol.com Thu Mar 21 10:15:57 2013 From: newsandtraffic at aol.com (Sean Paul) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:15:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool References: <013f01ce25cf$d452feb0$7cf8fc10$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <2646F46258DD4A23AE9F633F6198EDED@PC> I'd totaly agree with that & hope that he does next year & the years after as well. In fact, since it seems to be such an issue for you to post such things here on this list if you'd be so kind as to mark my email address down & send it along next year if he does. I'd greatly appreciate that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McBride" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 21:02 Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool > William: > > You are excused. And I wish to thank you for making available the first, > and only, tournament bracket that I have ever been able to make sense of. > Please pass my gratitude along to Terry. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William > T. > Miller > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:30 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool > > Dear list: > > > > Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web > accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament > pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in > nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the > document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive > technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of > completing > your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. > Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. > > > > I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this > information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could > benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just > completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament > selection > and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to > complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start > tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! > > > > Thank you, > > > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%40aol.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6192 - Release Date: 03/20/13 > From johnrsheehan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 21 10:22:20 2013 From: johnrsheehan at yahoo.com (John Sheehan) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 03:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool In-Reply-To: <2646F46258DD4A23AE9F633F6198EDED@PC> References: <013f01ce25cf$d452feb0$7cf8fc10$@sbcglobal.net> <2646F46258DD4A23AE9F633F6198EDED@PC> Message-ID: <1363861340.63780.YahooMailNeo@web163002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Each year we share the bracket on the website and the FB Page for the Xavier Society for the Blind, and people are most grateful.    Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Chairman Xavier Society for the Blind Web Site: www.xaviersocietyfortheblind.org 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3423 (Note the new phone #)  Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: Sean Paul To: Blind Law Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool I'd totaly agree with that & hope that he does next year & the years after as well. In fact, since it seems to be such an issue for you to post such things here on this list if you'd be so kind as to mark my email address down & send it along next year if he does. I'd greatly appreciate that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McBride" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 21:02 Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool > William: > > You are excused.  And I wish to thank you for making available the first, > and only, tournament bracket that I have ever been able to make sense of. > Please pass my gratitude along to Terry. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William > T. > Miller > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:30 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool > > Dear list: > > > > Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web > accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament > pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in > nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the > document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive > technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of > completing > your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. > Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. > > > > I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this > information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could > benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just > completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament > selection > and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to > complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start > tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! > > > > Thank you, > > > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%40aol.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6192 - Release Date: 03/20/13 > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yahoo.com From garysherwig at hotmail.com Thu Mar 21 10:35:34 2013 From: garysherwig at hotmail.com (Gary Herwig) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:35:34 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Really?! Enjoy the pool! > From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:09:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament pool > > what's with you lately? > it was appreciated by many. > btw you may be a list moderator but i don't think you own the list or > server. > Bryan Schulz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Andrews" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" ; "'Blind Law Mailing > List'" > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament > pool > > > > Off topic is off topic. Just saying something is off topic doesn't give > > you the permission to post it. > > > > David Andrews, List Owner > > > > At 06:30 PM 3/20/2013, William T. Miller wrote: > >>Dear list: > >> > >> > >> > >>Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web > >>accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and tournament > >>pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the bracket is visual in > >>nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an amazing job of structuring the > >>document so that it is accessible by screenreader or other assistive > >>technology. The tournament pool guides you through the process of > >>completing > >>your bracket and enters you into a competition with other participants. > >>Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. > >> > >> > >> > >>I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this > >>information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who could > >>benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage was just > >>completed today because of the short turnaround between tournament > >>selection > >>and the start of the competition. As a result, there's not much time to > >>complete the bracket. The games that count for purposes of the pool start > >>tomorrow night, so don't delay if you want to compete in the pool! > >> > >> > >> > >>Thank you, > >> > >> > >> > >>Will > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/garysherwig%40hotmail.com From wmodnl at hotmail.com Thu Mar 21 12:47:30 2013 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:47:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias In-Reply-To: <010101ce25a7$d391ffd0$7ab5ff70$@sbcglobal.net> References: <3C46AFCFDA3E9846A436B17E3E454DC706F9C51E7C@EXCH01> <9946F856E91DF44FB28973C350361CA8012E122580@USAHUBSMBX105.usa.doj.gov> <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14906798@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> <010101ce25a7$d391ffd0$7ab5ff70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Two thoughts here: We are out educating a public, country, and world, that refuses change, or the voices of the quiet to become herd. Also, I think organizations and some individuals are needing to change there focus. Of which needs to be fully determined. There is to much divide within the blindness community. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Daniel McBride" wrote: > Susan: > > During my 23 active years of prosecution and criminal defense work, I was > asked the questions you mention. > > I would usually ask the person to blindfold themselves and try getting > through one day of work, then come tell me how they would answer their > questions were they blind. > > Not one of them did it, not one of them offered to do it and not one of them > ever replied. > > Dan McBride > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:31 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > The public truly does have many misconceptions that need to be corrected at > every opportunity. I am lucky that I was already employed when things went > from bad to much worse vision-wise, but the reaction of > co-workers and others at court was astounding. Otherwise intelligent > and compassionate people asked me such questions as "how long will they let > you keep working?" and "why don't you just kick back and collect the SSI > benefits?" As a young woman with student loan debts, a newish house, and > most importantly, a brain and self-respect, it has been difficult to avoid > questioning their intellectual abilities! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring,Blind Workers Face Bias > > The study did not tell me much I did not know. I always know that companies > have been putting up a show by hiring a few blind employees to make > themselves look good but not really because the person was the "most > qualified for the job." It hurts when one knows that he/she did not get a > job and it was because of his/her blindness and not due to a lack of > qualification. I have been there and it feels terrible. > > The organized blind movements must seriouslly consider enhancing the > approach at educating the public about blindness to also focus on > employment. There is a serious lack of understanding out there. Crazy. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Alcidonis Law Office > 2824 Cottman Avenue > Suite 15 > Philadelphia, PA 19149 > O: (215) 305-8085 > Attorney at alcidonislaw.com > www.alcidonislaw.com > > Personal injury, Immigration, and No-fault divorce/custody -----Original > Message----- > From: Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:43 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to > Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias > > An interesting article. Thanks for posting it. The reality is that a > visually impaired person trying to get hired has an uphill battle that is > almost unimaginable to most of the general work force. > > I have a job as a government attorney. I am so grateful for it. I'm > leaving it, however, since I'm moving because my wife was accepted into a > great business school across the country. I am so worried that I won't find > another job, especially as an attorney. > > When I weight all the factors, it's clear that she and I are making the > right move. Nonetheless, this terrible anxiety about finding a new job is a > direct result of my visual impairment. If I had normal vision, finding a > new job would be so much easier than it is going to be because of my visual > impairment. > > Has anyone ever had the experience of going from practicing law to the > Business Enterprise Program? Is any one in the business enterprise program? > If so, what is your experience with it? How much money does a BEP person > make? > > Mike > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: aavia at googlegroups.com [mailto:aavia at googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Barrett, Pshon (USAMSS) >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:59 AM >>> To: aavia at googlegroups.com >>> Subject: FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind >> Workers >>> Face Bias >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com >>> [mailto:FedAccessibility at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:37 PM >>> To: 'fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com' >>> (fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com) >>> Subject: [FedAccessibility] FW: The Wall Street Journal: When It >>> Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >>> >>> >>> >>> The Wall Street Journal: When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face >>> Bias >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When It Comes to Hiring, Blind Workers Face Bias >>> >>> >>> The Wall Street Journal >>> >>> * March 18, 2013, 10:27 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> By Leslie Kwoh >>> >>> When it comes to hiring blind employees, many employers remain > skeptical. >>> >>> Bosses often assume blind workers cost more and produce less, >>> according to a new study. They also believe blind workers are more >>> prone to workplace accidents and less reliable than other workers. >>> The study, scheduled to be released this week by the nonprofit >>> National Industries for the Blind, polled 400 human-resources and >>> hiring managers >> at >>> a mix of large and small U.S.-based companies. The group commissioned > >>> the survey, in part, to shed light on why roughly 70% of the 3.5 >>> million >> people >>> working-age Americans are not employed. (Legally blind Americans are >>> eligible for Social Security disability, according to NIB.) >>> >>> NIB president and chief executive Kevin Lynch described the survey >>> results as a "terrible surprise." With the exception of certain jobs >>> that require driving or steering, "there are very few jobs that a >>> person who's blind >> is not >>> capable of doing," he says. >>> >>> >>> >>> The findings reveal a disconnect between what employers say and what >>> they do. While the majority of executives claim they want to hire and > >>> train disabled workers, many view blind workers as an inconvenience. >>> >>> Hiring managers tended to be slightly more negative than >>> human-resources managers, but overall results were similar. >>> >>> * Among hiring managers, most respondents (54%) felt there > were >> few >>> jobs at their company that blind employees could perform, and 45% >>> said accommodating such workers would require "considerable expense." >>> >>> * Forty-two percent of hiring managers believe blind > employees >> need >>> someone to assist them on the job; 34% said blind workers are more >>> likely >> to >>> have work-related accidents. >>> >>> * One-quarter of respondents said blind employees are "more >> sensitive" >>> than other employees; the same percentage said they were "more >>> difficult to supervise." >>> >>> * Twenty-three percent of hiring managers said blind > employees >> are not >>> as productive as their colleagues, and 19% believe these employees >>> have a higher absentee rate. >>> >>> Blindness is largely absent from corporate conversation about >>> employees with disabilities with the exception of sporadic lawsuits: >>> Last August, Hawaiian Electric Co. agreed >>> >> electric-settle-discrimination-lawsuit-140923965.html> to pay >>> $50,000 to settle a discrimination suit by a partially blind >>> employee, the AP >> reported. >>> And in December, Bloomberg reported that a blind ex-banker at the >>> Royal Bank of Scotland Group >>> >>> lost a suit >> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> >>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> seek >>> banker-loses-rbs-discrimination-lawsuit-at-u-dot-k-dot-tribunal> ing >>> disability benefits. >>> >>> Rarer still is news about companies like apparel business SustainU, >>> based >> in >>> West Virginia, which hires blind and visually impaired employees to >>> man >> its >>> factory, according to the New York Times >>> >> maker-turns-to-blind-workers.html?_r=0> . The company said there was >>> no difference in the cost and quality of its goods when compared to >>> that of other U.S. manufacturers. >>> >>> Companies may have to invest some money to provide "reasonable >>> accommodations" for a blind employee, as required by the Americans >>> with Disabilities Act. However, says NIB's Lynch, many computers and > >>> smartphones already have built-in features that enable users to >>> change >> font >>> size and light intensity. 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Then, at tournament time next year, it will be there. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Paul Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:16 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool I'd totaly agree with that & hope that he does next year & the years after as well. In fact, since it seems to be such an issue for you to post such things here on this list if you'd be so kind as to mark my email address down & send it along next year if he does. I'd greatly appreciate that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McBride" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 21:02 Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournamentpool > William: > > You are excused. And I wish to thank you for making available the > first, and only, tournament bracket that I have ever been able to make sense of. > Please pass my gratitude along to Terry. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > William T. > Miller > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:30 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Off-topic: accessible NCAA bracket and tournament > pool > > Dear list: > > > > Please excuse this annual off-topic post. A former colleague and web > accessibility expert has posted an accessible NCAA bracket and > tournament pool at http://terrillthompson.com/ncaa. Although the > bracket is visual in nature, Terry (my former colleague (does an > amazing job of structuring the document so that it is accessible by > screenreader or other assistive technology. The tournament pool guides > you through the process of completing your bracket and enters you into > a competition with other participants. > Terry creates the website each year as a hobby and asks nothing in return. > > > > I hope some of you will consider participating and will pass this > information to your friends and colleagues, particularly those who > could benefit from the accessible features of the bracket. The webpage > was just completed today because of the short turnaround between > tournament selection and the start of the competition. As a result, > there's not much time to complete the bracket. The games that count > for purposes of the pool start tomorrow night, so don't delay if you > want to compete in the pool! > > > > Thank you, > > > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%4 > 0aol.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6192 - Release Date: > 03/20/13 > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Thu Mar 21 14:17:44 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:17:44 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: There goes my frustration with screen reader developers!! If the reason for developing one is to enable a blind individual gain access to the computer especially for purposes of gainful employment and there's a problem with the software being used, why would the screen developer need 25 blind folks reporting problems before doing what it can to make the software in vogue reasonably accessible to a screen reader? Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From amatney at hf-law.com Thu Mar 21 14:30:31 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:30:31 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com><20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DF0E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> I think the argument is that staff resources are limited. If 50 people report having issues with a piece of software, there is much more of an incentive to devote staff resources to solving that problem than to a situation affecting only one or two people. Of course, the practical effect is that specialized software used in professional settings does not get much attention. ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:18 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? There goes my frustration with screen reader developers!! If the reason for developing one is to enable a blind individual gain access to the computer especially for purposes of gainful employment and there's a problem with the software being used, why would the screen developer need 25 blind folks reporting problems before doing what it can to make the software in vogue reasonably accessible to a screen reader? 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In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DF0E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DF0E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: As before, if you let me know to whom I should write, I will certainly email and express my dissatisfaction and the issues I am experiencing. On a separate point, could other filesite and jaws users confirm if they are having the problem with their machines hanging when they send an e mail containing attachments? Ger On 3/21/13, Angela Matney wrote: > I think the argument is that staff resources are limited. If 50 people > report having issues with a piece of software, there is much more of an > incentive to devote staff resources to solving that problem than to a > situation affecting only one or two people. Of course, the practical effect > is that specialized software used in professional settings does not get much > attention. > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by > legal > privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. > If > you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by > returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you > for > your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication > and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for > the > purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal > Revenue > Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to > any > person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication > and > any attachments. > > ----------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- > Victory Associates LTD, Inc. > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:18 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? > > There goes my frustration with screen reader developers!! > > If the reason for developing one is to enable a blind individual gain access > to the computer especially for purposes of gainful employment and there's a > problem with the software being used, why would the screen developer need 25 > blind folks reporting problems before doing what it can to make the software > in vogue reasonably accessible to a screen reader? > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From rfarber at jw.com Thu Mar 21 15:33:55 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:33:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? In-Reply-To: References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DF0E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A209607EDD1E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Ger - I don't have problems sending e-mails with attachments, but there are many ways to send e-mails. I almost always want to give my attachments a name other than what the computer wants to name them. Therefore, I always save the attachments to MyDocuments and create an e-mail in Outlook and use the attach file selection from the ribbon. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:25 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? As before, if you let me know to whom I should write, I will certainly email and express my dissatisfaction and the issues I am experiencing. On a separate point, could other filesite and jaws users confirm if they are having the problem with their machines hanging when they send an e mail containing attachments? Ger On 3/21/13, Angela Matney wrote: > I think the argument is that staff resources are limited. If 50 people > report having issues with a piece of software, there is much more of > an incentive to devote staff resources to solving that problem than to > a situation affecting only one or two people. Of course, the practical > effect is that specialized software used in professional settings does > not get much attention. > > > > ----------------------------- > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected > by legal privilege. 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In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A209607EDD1E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCAF@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DCEC@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F64722530DF0E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A209607EDD1E@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: Hi Randy, Thanks. I send my attachments in the same way. This is obviously an issue with the way worksite has been set up on my machine which I will take up with our IT Department. On 3/21/13, Farber, Randy wrote: > Ger - I don't have problems sending e-mails with attachments, but there are > many ways to send e-mails. I almost always want to give my attachments a > name other than what the computer wants to name them. Therefore, I always > save the attachments to MyDocuments and create an e-mail in Outlook and use > the attach file selection from the ribbon. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:25 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] file site and jaws 13? > > As before, if you let me know to whom I should write, I will certainly email > and express my dissatisfaction and the issues I am experiencing. > > On a separate point, could other filesite and jaws users confirm if they are > having the problem with their machines hanging when they send an e mail > containing attachments? > > Ger > > On 3/21/13, Angela Matney wrote: >> I think the argument is that staff resources are limited. If 50 people >> report having issues with a piece of software, there is much more of >> an incentive to devote staff resources to solving that problem than to >> a situation affecting only one or two people. Of course, the practical >> effect is that specialized software used in professional settings does >> not get much attention. >> >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> >> Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected >> by legal privilege. 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If you want to receive my messages, please add my email address to your safe list. Regards, Ronza From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 01:50:45 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:50:45 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Using Datasites With Jaws Message-ID: Hi all In our firm, we use a variety of datasites, in different projects. As yet I have not been working on matters requiring particularly heavy use of these sites. Potentially these are a great opportunity for a blind person in my opinion, since the documentation is available online, it will already have been scanned. I therefore wondered what datasites others had used and what your experiences have been. All comments welcome. Thanks Ger From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Mar 22 19:56:03 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:56:03 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009601ce2737$4957d2e0$dc0778a0$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:02 PM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Trial Attorney, GS-905-14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development, Assistance and Training Resident Legal Advisor for the Caribbean Region 13-CR-OPDAT-043 Applications will be accepted until this position is filled. Date posted: 03-22-2013 Office of the Deputy Attorney General Senior Advisor on Forensic Science and Designated Federal Officer / GS-15 Announcement: ODAG DFO-0213 Non-Reimbursable Detail Opportunity This vacancy will be open until April 8, 2013 or until a selection has been made. Date posted: 03-21-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) United States Attorney's Office Northern District of Alabama Vacancy Announcement Number 13-NDAL-07 Applications must be postmarked by March 27, 2013. Date posted: 03-20-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of Virginia Alexandria Office 13-EDVA-12 Positions are open until filled, but resumes must be received by April 2, 2013. 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Date posted: 03-14-2013 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office District of Montana Billings Office Vacancy Announcement # 13-MT-002 Applications must be received by 4:30 p.m. Mountain Standard Time on the closing date, which is April 01, 2013. Date posted: 03-14-2013 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office District of Montana Helena Office Vacancy Announcement # 13-MT-001 Applications must be received by 4:30 p.m. Mountain Standard Time on the closing date, which is April 01, 2013. Date posted: 03-14-2013 United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, Housing and Civil Enforcement Section Deputy Chief, GS-15 Announcement Number: 13-ATT-003 Closing Date/Time: April 1, 2013 at 11:59 p.m. Date posted: 03-13-2013 Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Texas Vacancy Announcement # 13-SDTX-12 (AUSA-MCA-HCFSF) CLOSES: March 26, 2013 The deadline to apply is March 26, 2013. 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Date posted: 03-11-2013 United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Assistant United States Attorney Criminal Division Sacramento, California March 11, 2013 13-EDCA-19A This position will be open until filled; however, applications received by Friday, March 22, 2013, will be given first consideration. Date posted: 03-11-2013 United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of California Assistant United States Attorney Criminal Division Sacramento, California March 11, 2013 13-EDCA-18A This position will be open until filled; however, applications received by Friday, March 22, 2013, will be given first consideration. Date posted: 03-11-2013 Board Member Board of Immigration Appeals Executive Office for Immigration Review Vacancy Announcement Number: EOIR-13-0028 Applications received after April 8, 2013, will not be considered. Date posted: 03-08-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of Wisconsin 13-EDWI-AUSA-02 Applications must be received by Friday, March 22, 2013. Date posted: 03-07-2013 United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, Office of Special Counsel Trial Attorney, GS-905-12/15 Promotion Potential: GS-15 Announcement Number: 13-ATT-002 Applications are being accepted from March 1, 2013 through March 22, 2013, 11:59 PM EST. Date posted: 03-07-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Iowa Salary: $44,581 to $131,534 Opens: March 6, 2013 Closes: March 25, 2013 13-SDIA-03 Applications must be received by 4:30 p.m. CST on the closing date of March 25, 2013. Date posted: 03-06-2013 Experienced Trial Attorney, GS-0905-13/14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of International Affairs Washington, DC Vacancy Announcement Number: 13-CRM-OIA-041 Submissions must be received before midnight, Eastern Standard Time, on March 26, 2013. Date posted: 03-05-2013 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 22 21:06:30 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:06:30 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Updated blindlaw listserv purpose statement and rules Message-ID: Blindlaw listserv colleagues: In an interest to keep up to date in the evolving nature of listservs in general, and ours in particular, the board of directors of the National Association of Blind Lawyers has adopted a revised purpose statement for our list and made explicit rules that have already mostly been followed on this list. We hope the revised purpose statement and rules don't cause too much of a fuss. Please read on to understand our intent. In the meantime, any list participants who don't think that this is the list for them, should go to www.nfbnet.org and check out the large variety of listservs that are available to see if there is one that better fits their needs. Noel ________________________________________ The purpose of the Blind Law listserv is to serve as a resource for blind lawyers, paralegals, and law students, those blind people interested in a career in the legal profession, and others interested in techniques used by blind attorneys in practice. Discussions focus on blindness-related aspects of the practice of law, legal employment, technical resources for the legal profession, law school admissions, and law school admissions tests and bar examinations. The Blind Law listserv is also a means for sharing information about laws and cases that affect the blind and for disseminating information about programs and activities of the National Federation of the Blind. 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From dravant at ameritech.net Fri Mar 22 21:15:13 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (denise avant) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:15:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship | Disability Rights Legal Center References: <754CD11606D64746A911DFADB3D18CD52FD9B6@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org> Message-ID: <931DA955-0435-4D35-AA1D-A43B7DC6107A@ameritech.net> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Rita, Sherri" > Date: March 22, 2013, 4:03:12 PM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Subject: Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship | Disability Rights Legal Center > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Rita, Sherri" > > https://www.disabilityrightslegalcenter.org/kirkland-ellis-justice-fellowship > > KIRKLAND & ELLIS JUSTICE FELLOWSHIP > Disability Rights Legal Center's Kirkland & Ellis Justice Fellowship is awarded every two years to a law school graduate to pursue public interest work for two years as a staff attorney with DRLC in Los Angeles. 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(CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:43:12 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Apr. 7 Dinner Forum Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D14908C36@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> Greetings: Please do attend a captivating dinner forum dialogue being hosted by the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum (in partnership with the Museum of Maritime Pets) at Gordon Biersch Restaurant in Annapolis, Maryland. On 7 April, at 4:30 P.M. the dinner panel will be facilitated by Mr. Gieszl, notable dispute resolution professional and Ph.D. candidate; and the panel will discuss partnering veterans with companion dogs and assistance dogs. The cost to attend is $75 with various discounts available. RSVPs are mandatory. Please do transmit your RSVP to the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum at midatlanticlyceum at gmail.com with Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. as a copy at GLNorman15 at hotmail.com. Checks should be made to the order of: The Museum of Maritime Pets. Do mail them this week to: Museum of Maritime Pets 1009 Bay Ridge Ave. #188 Annapolis MD 21403 Sincerely, Gary C. Norman From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Mar 28 18:47:45 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:47:45 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FYI: Conference, Oct. Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D1490ABF9@PL-EMSMB12.ees.hhs.gov> The 2013 Southwest Conference on Disability Call For Papers is now open! The conference, held October 8-11, 2013 during the forty-first International Balloon Fiesta, is accepting proposals on the following themes: * The Rehabilitation Act at 40: Promises Kept, Promises Still to Keep * Assistive Technology: Opening the Door for People with Disabilities * When the Community, Business and Government Collaborate, People with Disabilities Work! * Access to Health for Women with Disabilities * Brain Injury: A Family Affair Across the Lifespan For more information on the conference themes or to submit a proposal, visit the conference website; http://cdd.unm.edu/swconf/ The deadline for proposals is May 28th, 2013. New For 2013 - The Southwest Conference Moves To the Hotel Albuquerque in Old Town, Albuquerque's Original Settlement! The 2013 Southwest Conference on Disability is moving to the Hotel Albuquerque, in the heart of Old Town, Albuquerque's original settlement dating from 1706. Step outside the doors of the hotel into Old Town. Buy fine silver and jewelry from Native American vendors, or take a historic walking or trolley tour of Old Town, including the nightly lantern-lit Ghost Tour! For more information - http://cdd.unm.edu/swconf/ swdisabilityconference at salud.unm.edu or (505) 272-6231. Please share this announcement with friends and colleagues who may be interested in participating. Thank you, Dr. Anthony Cahill Director, Division of Disability and Health Policy and Conference Chair AAHDdiscuss | Modify From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Thu Mar 28 19:25:00 2013 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:25:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone know if the blind justice seminar phohne call on Monday was recorded, or if any notes or minutes were taken? I wasn't able to make the call and I really would like to know what was discussed. Thanks. Deepa From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Mar 28 19:55:39 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:55:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Notice of Vacancy (Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Trustee -- District of Oregon) In-Reply-To: <96C642D074BA744E8F946CC31F72D1B61662FD8BC8@UST00EOMAILVS.ust.doj.gov> References: <96C642D074BA744E8F946CC31F72D1B61662FD8BC8@UST00EOMAILVS.ust.doj.gov> Message-ID: From: Becker, Ronald (USTP) [mailto:Ronald.Becker at usdoj.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:47 PM To: president at abaw.org; d.young at f5.com; asb at bmatlaw.com; daniel.swedlow at teamsters117.org; rdelasalas at yahoo.com; Jeri at Jgonzaleslaw.com; castillo.mimi at ymail.com; zanabugaighis at DWT.com; jason.holloway at stokeslaw.com; stevenwkim23 at yahoo.com; Emily.Rose.Gonzalez at gmail.com; dbmendoza at gmail.com; SheffieldJ at lanepowell.com; president at lmba.net; teebah at melegal.org; miriam at melegal.org; president at mamaseattle.org; dianab at lummi-nsn.gov; lshannon at hobbsstraus.com; Gina at duncanlawoffice.com; Nightingale, Noel; Michelleqpham at gmail.com:; binh.nguyen at becu.org; slavicbar at gmail.com; KChander at perkinscoie.com; stuarpix at microsoft.com; jeannec at wsba.org; Naomi.Ogan at klgates.com Subject: Notice of Vacancy (Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Trustee -- District of Oregon) Greetings: Attached to this message is the announcement of an opportunity for qualified applicants to serve as a chapter 7 bankruptcy trustee for Marion, Polk and Lincoln counties in Oregon. 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Name: Notice of Vacancy - Chapter 7 Panel Trustee.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 7442 bytes Desc: Notice of Vacancy - Chapter 7 Panel Trustee.pdf URL: From cathrynisfinally at verizon.net Thu Mar 28 21:28:04 2013 From: cathrynisfinally at verizon.net (Cathryn) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:28:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003b01ce2bfb$2214d7a0$663e86e0$@verizon.net> All: I would also appreciate a recording or notes of the teleconference as I registered, but could not attend. C Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:25 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar Hello, Does anyone know if the blind justice seminar phohne call on Monday was recorded, or if any notes or minutes were taken? I wasn't able to make the call and I really would like to know what was discussed. Thanks. Deepa _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 29 18:50:28 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:50:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] DOJ Statement of Interest in Lane v. Kitzhaber In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Attached is the April 20, 2012 DOJ Statement of Interest in Support of Plaintiffs Regarding Defendants' Motion to Dismiss in Lane v. Kitzhaber. The case is about segregated sheltered workshops in Oregon and makes arguments about ADA Title II's requirement for integrated settings. 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C Bonnette -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:25 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] notes or recording of Monday's Blind Justice Seminar Hello, Does anyone know if the blind justice seminar phohne call on Monday was recorded, or if any notes or minutes were taken? I wasn't able to make the call and I really would like to know what was discussed. Thanks. Deepa _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cathrynisfinally%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rothmanjd%40gmail.com From jty727 at gmail.com Sat Mar 30 02:58:43 2013 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:58:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Republic in New York State Message-ID: Hello: My name is Justin Young and I'm new to this list. I was curious to see if anyone on here could advise me the best way of becoming a Notary in the State of New York? Are there any of you on this list who have gone through a similar process before? I assume there is like a reasonable accomadation form or something with supporting documentation one would have to provide? Thanks so much for any and all of your assistance! Justin Young From dravant at ameritech.net Sat Mar 30 17:32:41 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:32:41 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Fall 2013 ACLU Racial Justice Program Legal Internship References: Message-ID: Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Subject: FW: Fall 2013 ACLU Racial Justice Program Legal Internship > Date: March 29, 2013 12:49:26 PM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Stratton, Michael" > > From: Heather Krasna [mailto:hkrasna at aclu.org] > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:44 PM > To: ABA Commission on Disbility Rights > Subject: Fall 2013 ACLU Racial Justice Program Legal Internship > > > The ACLU is committed to hiring students with disabilities. We are requesting your assistance with this effort and ask that the American Bar Association publicize the internship opportunity listed below. > > We greatly appreciate your help. > > If you would like to be removed from this announcement list going forward, please reply to this email with the subject line, “Remove.” If you can suggest other parties to receive future emails, please let us know. Thank you. > > > > Fall 2013 LEGAL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY > NOTICE TO ALL LAW STUDENTS > AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION FOUNDATION > Racial Justice Program, NY > For more than 92 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU), has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country’s largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Racial Justice Programof the ACLU’s National Office in New York City seeks legal interns for the Fall of 2013. > > OVERVIEW > The ACLU’s Racial Justice Program (RJP) aims to preserve and extend constitutionally guaranteed rights as well as other rights, to segments of the population that historically have been denied those rights on the basis of race, ethnicity or national origin. The Racial Justice Program (RJP) attorneys and staff work on a broad range of racial justice issues, particularly in the areas of criminal justice and education. > In the area of criminal justice, RJP is dedicated to reducing the unwarranted and disproportionate targeting and incarceration people of color. The Project has filed civil challenges to the inadequate provision of defense to adult and juvenile indigents and pre- and post-9/11 racial profiling. In the area of education, RJP seeks to ensure that all children have access to quality education, regardless of race or ethnicity. The Project has undertaken advocacy, including public education and community organizing, against the school-to-prison pipeline. The Racial Justice Program has sought to promote school desegregation and affirmative action programs. RJP also has advocated before international human rights bodies on behalf of formerly incarcerated people and people displaced by Hurricane Katrina. > > INTERNSHIP OVERVIEW > The Racial Justice Program is offering Legal Interns the opportunity to work on all aspects of litigation. Interns will work with an experienced team of racial justice attorneys on a broad range of issues, particularly in the areas of criminal justice and education. The internship requires a minimum commitment of 12 to 16 hours per week and is part-time, with a weekly schedule that is negotiable. This is an unpaid internship, and students are highly encouraged to seek Public Interest Fellowship funds for the internship. Arrangements can also be made with the students’ law school for work/study stipends or course credit. > > ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES > Interns will have the opportunity to gain valuable experience by working alongside the RJP team. Interns will gain experience by: > · Conducting factual and legal research. > > · Drafting pleadings, briefs and other litigation documents. > > · Researching prospects for new litigation, including factual and legal claims. > > · Assisting in the preparation of expert and percipient witnesses for courtroom testimony. > > DESIRED EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS > The opportunity is open to all law students who will have completed their first year of law school before the internship commences, and who possess the following: > · Excellent research, writing, analytical and communication skills. > > · The initiative to see projects through to completion. > > · A demonstrated commitment to racial justice issues, civil rights, and civil liberties. > > HOW TO APPLY > Applicants should send a letter of interest, a resume ,two references, an official or unofficial transcript, and a legal writing sample of no more than ten pages in length, via email to hrjobsINCL at ACLU.ORG reference RJP Fall 2013 Legal Internship—INCL in the subject line. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. > Alternatively, you may apply via mail: > American Civil Liberties Union > Human Resources > Re: Racial Justice Law Student Intern Program--INCL > 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor > New York, NY 10004 > > Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this internship opportunity. > > This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. > > The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. > > We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: Recruitment at aclu.org.Correspondence sent to this email address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. > > The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” > > > > > > Michael J. Stratton > Administrative Coordinator > Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) - Mail Stop 11.0 > American Bar Association (ABA) > 740 15th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20005-1022 > > T: 202.662.1571 > F: 202.442.3439 > michael.stratton at americanbar.org > http://www.americanbar.org/disability > > > From langlois2 at verizon.net Sat Mar 30 21:19:28 2013 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:19:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Republic in New York State References: Message-ID: <7E1E10B2D7B647C9AFD7F73E4E7CB6F1@barney03> Justin, I am a Notary in Massachusetts. There were no stringent requirements to be sworn in at the Secretary of State's office. I completed an application, obtained sponsorship, and submitted it for consideration. Brian Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Young" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:58 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Republic in New York State > Hello: > > My name is Justin Young and I'm new to this list. I was curious to > see if anyone on here could advise me the best way of becoming a > Notary in the State of New York? Are there any of you on this list > who have gone through a similar process before? I assume there is > like a reasonable accomadation form or something with supporting > documentation one would have to provide? Thanks so much for any and > all of your assistance! > > Justin Young > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net From jty727 at gmail.com Sat Mar 30 21:38:11 2013 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:38:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Republic in New York State In-Reply-To: <7E1E10B2D7B647C9AFD7F73E4E7CB6F1@barney03> References: <7E1E10B2D7B647C9AFD7F73E4E7CB6F1@barney03> Message-ID: Thanks Brian for the information. I saw an accomadation form on their website. On 3/30/13, Brian Langlois wrote: > Justin, I am a Notary in Massachusetts. There were no stringent requirements > > to be sworn in at the Secretary of State's office. > I completed an application, obtained sponsorship, and submitted it for > consideration. > Brian Langlois > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Young" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:58 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Becoming a Notary Republic in New York State > > >> Hello: >> >> My name is Justin Young and I'm new to this list. I was curious to >> see if anyone on here could advise me the best way of becoming a >> Notary in the State of New York? Are there any of you on this list >> who have gone through a similar process before? I assume there is >> like a reasonable accomadation form or something with supporting >> documentation one would have to provide? Thanks so much for any and >> all of your assistance! >> >> Justin Young >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com >