From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 00:08:40 2013 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 05:38:40 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes Message-ID: Hi all, I hope this message finds you well. I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which I have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must have had to confront as well at some point. As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen reader. The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI person lacks efficiency and competence. This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a VI person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is that the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that would greatly tarnish his/her image. This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing their potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job offer. So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? Cheers, Rahul From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Sun Sep 1 00:59:21 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:59:21 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open that formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are using. For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use -- me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of time and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes Hi all, I hope this message finds you well. I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which I have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must have had to confront as well at some point. As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen reader. The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI person lacks efficiency and competence. This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a VI person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is that the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that would greatly tarnish his/her image. This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing their potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job offer. So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? Cheers, Rahul _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Sun Sep 1 02:10:42 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:10:42 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> References: , <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> Message-ID: <7CE1CB09-40B1-43C5-B8BB-6B2579453468@stmarytx.edu> I agree with all these points and would add that perhaps a braille display would be of some use here. I hated Braille when I was a child but now that I am an Attorney, I find that I can not do my work withou one. Just my toughts. Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 19:59, "Russ Thomas" wrote: > Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of > document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open that > formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the > current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are using. > > For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very > particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use -- > me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of time > and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes > > Hi all, > > I hope this message finds you well. > I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which I > have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must > have had to confront as well at some point. > As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to > format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. > Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete > assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the > formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen reader. > The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally > believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI > person lacks efficiency and competence. > This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a VI > person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is that > the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the > formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that > would greatly tarnish his/her image. > This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing their > potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job offer. > So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? > > Cheers, > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From wburley at burley-wilson.com Sun Sep 1 05:51:42 2013 From: wburley at burley-wilson.com (William Burley) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 00:51:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> Message-ID: <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe the firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. Great conversation! Will Burley Burley-Wilson & Associates Main: 888-494-0031 Direct: 832-529-3243 Web:www.burley-wilson.com "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" wrote: > Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of > document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open that > formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the > current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are using. > > For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very > particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use -- > me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of time > and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes > > Hi all, > > I hope this message finds you well. > I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which I > have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must > have had to confront as well at some point. > As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to > format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. > Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete > assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the > formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen reader. > The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally > believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI > person lacks efficiency and competence. > This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a VI > person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is that > the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the > formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that > would greatly tarnish his/her image. > This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing their > potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job offer. > So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? > > Cheers, > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com From angie.matney at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 06:07:55 2013 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:07:55 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> Message-ID: I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do more billable work. I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without one. Angie On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: > I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe the > firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. > > Great conversation! > > Will Burley > Burley-Wilson & Associates > Main: 888-494-0031 > Direct: 832-529-3243 > Web:www.burley-wilson.com > > "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" > > On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" > wrote: > >> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of >> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open >> that >> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the >> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >> using. >> >> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use >> -- >> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of >> time >> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul >> Bajaj >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >> >> Hi all, >> >> I hope this message finds you well. >> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which >> I >> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must >> have had to confront as well at some point. >> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to >> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete >> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the >> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >> reader. >> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally >> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI >> person lacks efficiency and competence. >> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a >> VI >> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is >> that >> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the >> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that >> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >> their >> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >> offer. >> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >> >> Cheers, >> Rahul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >> ney.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Sun Sep 1 06:51:53 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 06:51:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com>, Message-ID: <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> I am a solo attorney so must find ways to get the work product completed of as little errors as is possible. I had a Refreshable 18 cel display called a "refreshabraille 18" that I bought myself while in law school in order to use with my mobile phone. In this way I would build up my use of Braille and thus increase my reading speed. Guess what? It worked. Now that I am practicing, and having to generate work product, pleadings, and other day to day documents, I find that perhaps more is required. To this end, I have bought myself an 80 cell display so that I can see as much of the document as is possible; much like the sighted do their edits. Granted, not everyone can drop the coin on an 80 cell display, but it would be good for most to pick up a display of any size. First because it will show you just how many mistakes in spelling we are making, and secondly it helps with spacing awareness. Just my thoughts and by the way, I hated Braille as a kid. It was lawschool that made me see the light... I'd love to talk to kids, parents, and other blind people about why Braille is so useful, and fun once you realize it opens doors. Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:08, "Angie Matney" wrote: > I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but > invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final > product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look > Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or > distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was > how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more > efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do > more billable work. > > I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without one. > > Angie > > > > On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: >> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe the >> firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. >> >> Great conversation! >> >> Will Burley >> Burley-Wilson & Associates >> Main: 888-494-0031 >> Direct: 832-529-3243 >> Web:www.burley-wilson.com >> >> "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" >> >> On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" >> wrote: >> >>> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of >>> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open >>> that >>> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the >>> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >>> using. >>> >>> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >>> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use >>> -- >>> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of >>> time >>> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul >>> Bajaj >>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I hope this message finds you well. >>> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which >>> I >>> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must >>> have had to confront as well at some point. >>> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to >>> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >>> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete >>> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the >>> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >>> reader. >>> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally >>> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI >>> person lacks efficiency and competence. >>> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a >>> VI >>> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is >>> that >>> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the >>> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that >>> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >>> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >>> their >>> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >>> offer. >>> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rahul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >>> ney.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 07:58:23 2013 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:28:23 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> Message-ID: <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> Hi all, Thanks for the great responses. Russ, I believe most law firms provide sample documents to their associates and interns so that they can use them as points of reference while preparing their own documents. While this is a reasonably good solution, the only problem is that the details in the original document have to be altered which affects the formatting. Thanks for your suggestion, though. Robert, That is an interesting suggestion. Like you, I've never really been fond of Braille. In fact, my knowledge about Braille is fairly limited since I have never had to really use it much. This is something that I can look into. Does this approach only allow you to check the spellings and spacing, or does it also help in checking the formatting in a quicker manner?Angie, Most firms do have an executive whose job is to check the formatting of the documents before they are sent to clients. But there is 1 main problem: The document has to be approved by your senior before it is sent to the formatting guy. So, an incorrectly formatted document can create a very bad impression. Can you think of any way of circumventing this problem? Cheers, Rahul Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "Dittman, Robert" wrote: > I am a solo attorney so must find ways to get the work product completed of as little errors as is possible. > I had a Refreshable 18 cel display called a "refreshabraille 18" that I bought myself while in law school in order to use with my mobile phone. In this way I would build up my use of Braille and thus increase my reading speed. Guess what? It worked. > > Now that I am practicing, and having to generate work product, pleadings, and other day to day documents, I find that perhaps more is required. To this end, I have bought myself an 80 cell display so that I can see as much of the document as is possible; much like the sighted do their edits. > Granted, not everyone can drop the coin on an 80 cell display, but it would be good for most to pick up a display of any size. First because it will show you just how many mistakes in spelling we are making, and secondly it helps with spacing awareness. > > Just my thoughts and by the way, I hated Braille as a kid. It was lawschool that made me see the light... I'd love to talk to kids, parents, and other blind people about why Braille is so useful, and fun once you realize it opens doors. > > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:08, "Angie Matney" wrote: > >> I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but >> invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final >> product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look >> Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or >> distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was >> how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more >> efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do >> more billable work. >> >> I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without one. >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: >>> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe the >>> firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. >>> >>> Great conversation! >>> >>> Will Burley >>> Burley-Wilson & Associates >>> Main: 888-494-0031 >>> Direct: 832-529-3243 >>> Web:www.burley-wilson.com >>> >>> "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" >>> >>> On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of >>>> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open >>>> that >>>> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the >>>> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >>>> using. >>>> >>>> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >>>> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use >>>> -- >>>> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of >>>> time >>>> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul >>>> Bajaj >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which >>>> I >>>> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must >>>> have had to confront as well at some point. >>>> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to >>>> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >>>> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete >>>> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the >>>> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >>>> reader. >>>> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally >>>> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI >>>> person lacks efficiency and competence. >>>> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a >>>> VI >>>> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is >>>> that >>>> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the >>>> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that >>>> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >>>> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >>>> their >>>> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >>>> offer. >>>> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Rahul >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >>>> ney.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 10:00:59 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:00:59 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Rahel, Is there a secretary assigned to the team with which you work? Perhaps you could send your draft document to the secretary before your senior and get the secretary to check the formatting. Then send it to the senior, for approval and then send to formatting executive. G On 9/1/13, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the great responses. > Russ, > I believe most law firms provide sample documents to their associates and > interns so that they can use them as points of reference while preparing > their own documents. > While this is a reasonably good solution, the only problem is that the > details in the original document have to be altered which affects the > formatting. > > Thanks for your suggestion, though. > Robert, > That is an interesting suggestion. Like you, I've never really been fond of > Braille. > In fact, my knowledge about Braille is fairly limited since I have never had > to really use it much. > This is something that I can look into. > Does this approach only allow you to check the spellings and spacing, or > does it also help in checking the formatting in a quicker manner?Angie, > Most firms do have an executive whose job is to check the formatting of the > documents before they are sent to clients. > But there is 1 main problem: > The document has to be approved by your senior before it is sent to the > formatting guy. So, an incorrectly formatted document can create a very bad > impression. > Can you think of any way of circumventing this problem? > > > Cheers, > Rahul > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "Dittman, Robert" > wrote: > >> I am a solo attorney so must find ways to get the work product completed >> of as little errors as is possible. >> I had a Refreshable 18 cel display called a "refreshabraille 18" that I >> bought myself while in law school in order to use with my mobile phone. >> In this way I would build up my use of Braille and thus increase my >> reading speed. Guess what? It worked. >> >> Now that I am practicing, and having to generate work product, pleadings, >> and other day to day documents, I find that perhaps more is required. To >> this end, I have bought myself an 80 cell display so that I can see as >> much of the document as is possible; much like the sighted do their >> edits. >> Granted, not everyone can drop the coin on an 80 cell display, but it >> would be good for most to pick up a display of any size. First because it >> will show you just how many mistakes in spelling we are making, and >> secondly it helps with spacing awareness. >> >> Just my thoughts and by the way, I hated Braille as a kid. It was >> lawschool that made me see the light... I'd love to talk to kids, parents, >> and other blind people about why Braille is so useful, and fun once you >> realize it opens doors. >> >> >> Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. >> Attorney and Counselor at Law >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:08, "Angie Matney" wrote: >> >>> I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but >>> invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final >>> product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look >>> Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or >>> distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was >>> how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more >>> efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do >>> more billable work. >>> >>> I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without one. >>> >>> Angie >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: >>>> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe >>>> the >>>> firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. >>>> >>>> Great conversation! >>>> >>>> Will Burley >>>> Burley-Wilson & Associates >>>> Main: 888-494-0031 >>>> Direct: 832-529-3243 >>>> Web:www.burley-wilson.com >>>> >>>> "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" >>>> >>>> On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form >>>>> of >>>>> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open >>>>> that >>>>> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename >>>>> the >>>>> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >>>>> using. >>>>> >>>>> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >>>>> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all >>>>> use >>>>> -- >>>>> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of >>>>> time >>>>> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul >>>>> Bajaj >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>>> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge >>>>> which >>>>> I >>>>> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you >>>>> must >>>>> have had to confront as well at some point. >>>>> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person >>>>> to >>>>> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >>>>> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to >>>>> complete >>>>> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check >>>>> the >>>>> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, >>>>> generally >>>>> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI >>>>> person lacks efficiency and competence. >>>>> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for >>>>> a >>>>> VI >>>>> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting >>>>> is >>>>> that >>>>> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the >>>>> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as >>>>> that >>>>> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >>>>> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >>>>> their >>>>> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >>>>> offer. >>>>> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Rahul >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >>>>> ney.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From wmodnl at hotmail.com Sun Sep 1 12:03:30 2013 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:03:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Question about real estate law: In-Reply-To: <356605C0E4C84BA881B32154C9E9D2B3@Spike> References: <356605C0E4C84BA881B32154C9E9D2B3@Spike> Message-ID: Thank you for your feedback. I thought the same thing; since, I am not a lawyer I just wanted to check. Have a good day. Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:02 AM, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote: > as a blind person and also a former property manager I would hope that a manager or landlord would not have any additional duty to notify me of anything as that could be used to potentially discourage my tenancy. That does not fall under reasonable under the ADA or other fair housing legislation and could only result in potential problems for potential tenants. I have lived in some pretty bad neighborhoods and managed property in them but I was aware of what I was getting in to when I moved there and when I took the job. Other tenants don't get such notification other than what is public record readily available on the Internet or from local law enforcement agencies and I for one would not want to be treated any differently. Such advice is not reasonable accommodation and it is not the type of practice that I would think the NFB would encourage. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- From: "wmodnl wmodnl" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:09 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Question about real estate law: > > >> >> Good evening, >> What is the roll of a real-estate or tort lawyer? >> Recently, I was discussing the safety of my neighborhood as it pertains to disabled people being able to navigate the local streets. The assistant property manager informed me that for years, both them and there car has been involved in multiple hit-and-run accidents in recent years. As we talked, she concurred with my assertion that the area is unsafe for pedestrians placing a greater risk on a blind person. >> I know that legally, someone can not discourage or do something implying discrimination by telling a blind applicant that, they should go else-ware; however, to withhold something like this omits the person from making an informed decision on a living choice especially if they do not see what is around them, or, they are not getting proper information as they research where they are going to live. Am I correct; or is there a possibility that she was negligent in this case? Thank you, have a good evening. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com From angie.matney at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 21:36:54 2013 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:36:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7584C8FD-00F0-4C40-A450-684BAB033074@gmail.com> My assistant checks my formatting before I send a document to a partner for review. Here, it is deemed a reasonable disability accommodation. Also, our secretaries sometimes help others with formatting anyway. Angie Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the great responses. > Russ, > I believe most law firms provide sample documents to their associates and interns so that they can use them as points of reference while preparing their own documents. > While this is a reasonably good solution, the only problem is that the details in the original document have to be altered which affects the formatting. > > Thanks for your suggestion, though. > Robert, > That is an interesting suggestion. Like you, I've never really been fond of Braille. > In fact, my knowledge about Braille is fairly limited since I have never had to really use it much. > This is something that I can look into. > Does this approach only allow you to check the spellings and spacing, or does it also help in checking the formatting in a quicker manner?Angie, > Most firms do have an executive whose job is to check the formatting of the documents before they are sent to clients. > But there is 1 main problem: > The document has to be approved by your senior before it is sent to the formatting guy. So, an incorrectly formatted document can create a very bad impression. > Can you think of any way of circumventing this problem? > > > Cheers, > Rahul > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "Dittman, Robert" wrote: > >> I am a solo attorney so must find ways to get the work product completed of as little errors as is possible. >> I had a Refreshable 18 cel display called a "refreshabraille 18" that I bought myself while in law school in order to use with my mobile phone. In this way I would build up my use of Braille and thus increase my reading speed. Guess what? It worked. >> >> Now that I am practicing, and having to generate work product, pleadings, and other day to day documents, I find that perhaps more is required. To this end, I have bought myself an 80 cell display so that I can see as much of the document as is possible; much like the sighted do their edits. >> Granted, not everyone can drop the coin on an 80 cell display, but it would be good for most to pick up a display of any size. First because it will show you just how many mistakes in spelling we are making, and secondly it helps with spacing awareness. >> >> Just my thoughts and by the way, I hated Braille as a kid. It was lawschool that made me see the light... I'd love to talk to kids, parents, and other blind people about why Braille is so useful, and fun once you realize it opens doors. >> >> >> Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. >> Attorney and Counselor at Law >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:08, "Angie Matney" wrote: >> >>> I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but >>> invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final >>> product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look >>> Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or >>> distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was >>> how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more >>> efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do >>> more billable work. >>> >>> I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without one. >>> >>> Angie >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: >>>> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, maybe the >>>> firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. >>>> >>>> Great conversation! >>>> >>>> Will Burley >>>> Burley-Wilson & Associates >>>> Main: 888-494-0031 >>>> Direct: 832-529-3243 >>>> Web:www.burley-wilson.com >>>> >>>> "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" >>>> >>>> On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form of >>>>> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. Open >>>>> that >>>>> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename the >>>>> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >>>>> using. >>>>> >>>>> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >>>>> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all use >>>>> -- >>>>> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot of >>>>> time >>>>> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul >>>>> Bajaj >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>>> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge which >>>>> I >>>>> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you must >>>>> have had to confront as well at some point. >>>>> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person to >>>>> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >>>>> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to complete >>>>> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check the >>>>> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, generally >>>>> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the VI >>>>> person lacks efficiency and competence. >>>>> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for a >>>>> VI >>>>> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting is >>>>> that >>>>> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to the >>>>> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as that >>>>> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >>>>> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >>>>> their >>>>> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >>>>> offer. >>>>> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Rahul >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >>>>> ney.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com From salynnr at yahoo.com Mon Sep 2 05:12:10 2013 From: salynnr at yahoo.com (Shannon Ramsay) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 22:12:10 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience Message-ID: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> Hello, I am a California lawyer located in the Sacramento area. I have been offered the opportunity to work for a small bankruptcy firm in my area, and I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who practices bankruptcy law whom I could talk to. I am especially looking for someone who practices in California if there is anyone like that on this list. I also know the work I am likely to be doing will involve a lot of electronic filings through PACER. I need to know how accessible PACER is for a Jaws user and how difficult it is to learn. I do recall reading a post on this list about PACER a long time ago, but I thought it would be more efficient to just put the question out there again instead of wading through old archived messages. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Shannon Ramsay From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Mon Sep 2 12:06:44 2013 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:36:44 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes In-Reply-To: <7584C8FD-00F0-4C40-A450-684BAB033074@gmail.com> References: <008f01cea6ae$7ec541a0$7c4fc4e0$@com> <62AD404B-2AFE-4921-8554-C5485B4274B4@burley-wilson.com> <02117785-2DEA-41F2-AC92-27455635B39C@stmarytx.edu> <96937AFA-E17B-4560-B817-0F28BFF5433E@gmail.com> <7584C8FD-00F0-4C40-A450-684BAB033074@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh, I see. Thank you for all the tips. They do sound very feasible and reasonable. I'll definitely try out some of those during my next internship. Cheers, Rahul On 02/09/2013, Angie Matney wrote: > My assistant checks my formatting before I send a document to a partner for > review. Here, it is deemed a reasonable disability accommodation. Also, our > secretaries sometimes help others with formatting anyway. > > Angie > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 1, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks for the great responses. >> Russ, >> I believe most law firms provide sample documents to their associates >> and interns so that they can use them as points of reference while >> preparing their own documents. >> While this is a reasonably good solution, the only problem is that the >> details in the original document have to be altered which affects the >> formatting. >> >> Thanks for your suggestion, though. >> Robert, >> That is an interesting suggestion. Like you, I've never really been fond >> of Braille. >> In fact, my knowledge about Braille is fairly limited since I have never >> had to really use it much. >> This is something that I can look into. >> Does this approach only allow you to check the spellings and spacing, or >> does it also help in checking the formatting in a quicker manner?Angie, >> Most firms do have an executive whose job is to check the formatting of >> the documents before they are sent to clients. >> But there is 1 main problem: >> The document has to be approved by your senior before it is sent to the >> formatting guy. So, an incorrectly formatted document can create a very >> bad impression. >> Can you think of any way of circumventing this problem? >> >> >> Cheers, >> Rahul >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "Dittman, Robert" >> wrote: >> >>> I am a solo attorney so must find ways to get the work product completed >>> of as little errors as is possible. >>> I had a Refreshable 18 cel display called a "refreshabraille 18" that I >>> bought myself while in law school in order to use with my mobile phone. >>> In this way I would build up my use of Braille and thus increase my >>> reading speed. Guess what? It worked. >>> >>> Now that I am practicing, and having to generate work product, pleadings, >>> and other day to day documents, I find that perhaps more is required. To >>> this end, I have bought myself an 80 cell display so that I can see as >>> much of the document as is possible; much like the sighted do their >>> edits. >>> Granted, not everyone can drop the coin on an 80 cell display, but it >>> would be good for most to pick up a display of any size. First because >>> it will show you just how many mistakes in spelling we are making, and >>> secondly it helps with spacing awareness. >>> >>> Just my thoughts and by the way, I hated Braille as a kid. It was >>> lawschool that made me see the light... I'd love to talk to kids, >>> parents, and other blind people about why Braille is so useful, and fun >>> once you realize it opens doors. >>> >>> >>> Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. >>> Attorney and Counselor at Law >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:08, "Angie Matney" wrote: >>> >>>> I do my best to use documents that are in the form I need, but >>>> invariably, something isn't exactly as it should be in the final >>>> product. My secretary is responsible for making sure my documents look >>>> Ok before I either send them out to clients or third parties or >>>> distribute them to the partner who gave me the assignment. This was >>>> how it worked when I was a summer associate as well. It is more >>>> efficient for my secretary to do this; it gives me more time to do >>>> more billable work. >>>> >>>> I also agree about a braille display. I could not do my job without >>>> one. >>>> >>>> Angie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/1/13, William Burley wrote: >>>>> I agree with this approach. If you don't have access to old forms, >>>>> maybe the >>>>> firm uses O'Connors forms for your particular state. >>>>> >>>>> Great conversation! >>>>> >>>>> Will Burley >>>>> Burley-Wilson & Associates >>>>> Main: 888-494-0031 >>>>> Direct: 832-529-3243 >>>>> Web:www.burley-wilson.com >>>>> >>>>> "Virtual Consultants for Your Success" >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, "Russ Thomas" >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Find out what different formats you will need and then create one form >>>>>> of >>>>>> document for each format. Then when you need a particular format. >>>>>> Open >>>>>> that >>>>>> formatted document and use it. When you create a new document, rename >>>>>> the >>>>>> current document so that you do not compromise the basic form you are >>>>>> using. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, in California pleadings have to be prepared in a very >>>>>> particular format. We have a default pleading document which we all >>>>>> use >>>>>> -- >>>>>> me and my sighted paralegals. Preformatted documents save you a lot >>>>>> of >>>>>> time >>>>>> and eliminate the risk of inconsistent or unacceptable documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Rahul >>>>>> Bajaj >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:09 PM >>>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting Woes >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>>>> I was wondering if we could have a dialogue about 1 major challenge >>>>>> which >>>>>> I >>>>>> have often encountered during my internships and which some of you >>>>>> must >>>>>> have had to confront as well at some point. >>>>>> As I am sure you know, it is not easy for a visually impaired person >>>>>> to >>>>>> format documents as effectively and quickly as a sighted person. >>>>>> Due to this inherent difficulty, it often becomes difficult to >>>>>> complete >>>>>> assignments in a time bound manner, as one has to scrupulously check >>>>>> the >>>>>> formatting of the documents which is not at all easy with a screen >>>>>> reader. >>>>>> The sighted person, who is responsible for assigning the work, >>>>>> generally >>>>>> believes that the aforementioned delay is due to the fact that the >>>>>> VI >>>>>> person lacks efficiency and competence. >>>>>> This is primarily because most of them do not know how hard it is for >>>>>> a >>>>>> VI >>>>>> person to format documents independently. Another point worth noting >>>>>> is >>>>>> that >>>>>> the VI person cannot overlook evenminor instructions pertaining to >>>>>> the >>>>>> formatting of the documents just to complete the work quickly, as >>>>>> that >>>>>> would greatly tarnish his/her image. >>>>>> This problem prevents visually impaired people from truly showcasing >>>>>> their >>>>>> potential which substantially reduces their chances of getting a job >>>>>> offer. >>>>>> So, what, in your view, is the best way of dealing with this problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Rahul >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> blindlaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor >>>>>> ney.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> blindlaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wburley%40burley-wilson.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > From mikefry79 at gmail.com Mon Sep 2 12:33:25 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:33:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience In-Reply-To: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> References: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Shannon, Congratulations on receiving an offer to work for a bankruptcy firm. I clerked for a bankruptcy judge in San Jose. Afterwards, I worked for a small debtor side bankruptcy firm in San Jose. Bankruptcy law is a good field. It's a niche that isn't to complex. Given enough experience in the field, it can be easily mastered, but, general practice attorneys usually feel uncomfortable doing it. Moreover, bankruptcy is a good concept. If things go wrong for the debtor, the government steps in and protects him, which encourages risk taking. I don't use JAWS. Rather, I put my computer monitor on high contrast and where a pair of telescopic lenses to read the screen. So, I'm not qualified to give advice about JAWS. Nevertheless, here are some general points. PACER allows one to access case and docket information from Federal Courts. Documents are filed in PDF format through electronic court filing (e-filing). I've been told that Federal e-filing is a simple fairly simple and seamless process compared to state and municipal electronic filing systems. For what it's worth, I think e-filing should be compatible with JAWS because it gets high reviews and it's owned, operated, and managed by the Federal Government, which should require it to conform to the ADA. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. If you prefer, you are welcome to contact me off list. Sincerely, Mike On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Shannon Ramsay wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am a California lawyer located in the Sacramento area. I have been > offered the opportunity to work for a small bankruptcy firm in my area, and > I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who practices bankruptcy law > whom I could talk to. I am especially looking for someone who practices in > California if there is anyone like that on this list. > > I also know the work I am likely to be doing will involve a lot of > electronic filings through PACER. I need to know how accessible PACER is > for a Jaws user and how difficult it is to learn. I do recall reading a > post on this list about PACER a long time ago, but I thought it would be > more efficient to just put the question out there again instead of wading > through old archived messages. Any help I can get would be greatly > appreciated. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Shannon Ramsay > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Mon Sep 2 13:48:54 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 06:48:54 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience In-Reply-To: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> References: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01cea7e3$2a150b00$7e3f2100$@com> Based upon limited exposure to the subject, bankruptcy is a forms-driven practice. You will need to become familiar with the most commonly used forms. Pacer is a challenge but it can be mastered with some practice and patience. Everything in bankruptcy must be filed on Pacer. I am not familiar with what the Eastern District requires, but in the Central District you may not file in the bankruptcy court on Pacer without taking a test. That prevents people who don't know how to file from using Pacer in the bankruptcy court. However, after you become familiar with Pacer, that might be the time to raise any accommodations issues you might be experiencing. Another issue with Pacer is the use of PDF. When you file on Pacer, you must file a PDF document. Thus, after you create a document, you must convert it to PDF before you can file it. Similarly, if you download a document from Pacer you will need to convert it before Jaws can read it. In my office we wind up with a PDF and word document for each pleading we file or receive. If I can be of further help, contact me off list at rthomas at nbemploymentattorney.com or 949.752.0101. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Ramsay Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:12 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience Hello, I am a California lawyer located in the Sacramento area. I have been offered the opportunity to work for a small bankruptcy firm in my area, and I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who practices bankruptcy law whom I could talk to. I am especially looking for someone who practices in California if there is anyone like that on this list. I also know the work I am likely to be doing will involve a lot of electronic filings through PACER. I need to know how accessible PACER is for a Jaws user and how difficult it is to learn. I do recall reading a post on this list about PACER a long time ago, but I thought it would be more efficient to just put the question out there again instead of wading through old archived messages. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Shannon Ramsay _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From tim at timeldermusic.com Mon Sep 2 19:12:11 2013 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (Tim Elder) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:12:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience In-Reply-To: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> References: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01cea810$54bb30a0$fe3191e0$@timeldermusic.com> Hello Shannon, PACER/ECF does have some challenges. Would you be willing to speak with me off list? There is growing interest among some on this list in working to improve screen reader access for the PACER web interface and ensuring all PDF files on the ECF docket include embedded text. You can reach me at 410.415.3493 or by email at telder[at]trelegal[dot]com. -----Original Message----- From: Shannon Ramsay [mailto:salynnr at yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:12 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience Hello, I am a California lawyer located in the Sacramento area. I have been offered the opportunity to work for a small bankruptcy firm in my area, and I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who practices bankruptcy law whom I could talk to. I am especially looking for someone who practices in California if there is anyone like that on this list. I also know the work I am likely to be doing will involve a lot of electronic filings through PACER. I need to know how accessible PACER is for a Jaws user and how difficult it is to learn. I do recall reading a post on this list about PACER a long time ago, but I thought it would be more efficient to just put the question out there again instead of wading through old archived messages. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Shannon Ramsay From shannonldillon at gmail.com Mon Sep 2 19:38:52 2013 From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:38:52 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience In-Reply-To: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> References: <004401cea79a$fae66b50$f0b341f0$@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501cea814$0ea2b6c0$2be82440$@gmail.com> Congratulations on the offer, Shannon. That's awesome. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Ramsay Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:12 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility of PACER with Jaws and looking for anyone to talk to with bankruptcy experience Hello, I am a California lawyer located in the Sacramento area. I have been offered the opportunity to work for a small bankruptcy firm in my area, and I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who practices bankruptcy law whom I could talk to. I am especially looking for someone who practices in California if there is anyone like that on this list. I also know the work I am likely to be doing will involve a lot of electronic filings through PACER. I need to know how accessible PACER is for a Jaws user and how difficult it is to learn. I do recall reading a post on this list about PACER a long time ago, but I thought it would be more efficient to just put the question out there again instead of wading through old archived messages. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Shannon Ramsay _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail .com From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Tue Sep 3 20:53:12 2013 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:53:12 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Vacancy Announcement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in San Francisco Message-ID: Subject: VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT: General Attorney (GS-11/12/13/14) - OGC Region IX (San Francisco, CA) The Office of the General Counsel is currently conducting a search for a General Attorney in the Region IX (San Francisco, CA) office. The vacancy announcement is open through Friday, September 13, 2013. To view the vacancy announcement (HHS-OGC-DE-13-942853), visit the following link: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/350232700 Please feel free to share this opportunity with individuals who may be interested in this important position. OGC is an equal opportunity employer, and we encourage applications from a diverse pool of high-quality candidates. From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Sep 4 12:14:45 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:14:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question Message-ID: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or nexis and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which operating system do you find to be the most stable? I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time I try to use a legal application that others know is an issue. I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal profession have found to be an issue. Any sugestions would be appreciated. From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 13:46:23 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:46:23 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> Message-ID: <50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> the power of your laptop actually is an issue. windows 7 and jaws 14 is a great combo if your computer has a good processor, but it will freeze up on a bad one, especially if youre using a complex website like westlaw. i would also appreciate any suggestions for jaws/OS combinations and laptop suggestions for use in court and other situations where you cant afford to have jaws go silent from practicing attorneys. ill be in court a fair amount this year as a part of clinical work, and will be graduating in may. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:14, "Ross Doerr" wrote: > This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. > I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. > For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or nexis > and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which operating system > do you find to be the most stable? > I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time I try > to use a legal application that others know is an issue. > I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with > getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal > profession have found to be an issue. > Any sugestions would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 4 13:50:23 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:50:23 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] GWU: Speaker in Sept. Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E1512CB@pl-emsmb12> Steven M. Wise, President of the Nonhuman Rights Project and world-renown animal rights lawyer and legal scholar, will discuss the Nonhuman Rights Project's work. This will be a FANTASTIC Event! WHEN: Friday, September 27, 2013 from 6pm - 8pm. WHERE: GW Law School, Faculty Conference Center, 5th Floor Burns, 716 20th Street, NW Please check out the Facebook Event and invite friends! https://www.facebook.com/events/636613533039317/ I hope to see you there! -- Joan Schaffner Associate Professor of Law George Washington University Law School 716 20th Street, NW Washington DC 20052 202-494-0354 Animal Law Program: http://www.law.gwu.edu/Academics/Publicinterest/AnimalLaw/Pages/AnimalLaw.aspx "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mahatma Gandhi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7502 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 4 14:36:06 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:36:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Mid-Atlantic Lyceum Forum on Chicckens? Md. Sch. of L. RReported On Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E151493@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: Do ffind the story contained below. There is a connectiong among the environment, animals, and human health. This is perhaps a topic that the Lyceum should do, bringing environmentalists and small farmers together for dialogue. Dicta Indeed, small farmers have a point of view that needs to be heard. ADR With mass torts or just mass conflicts needing redress, there is a move, as shown by the BP oil spill and the post 911 recoveries to victims, to provide centralized funds from which monetary awards are given usually by an argitrator, namely for both, Kenneth Weinburg. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. FYI from Delmarva Poultry Industry. From: Bill Satterfield [mailto:Satterfield at dpichicken.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:13 PM To: Bill Satterfield Subject: Law Clinics, Farmers and Fairness Check out this column by the veteran Maryland commentator Barry Recover. New post on politicalmaryland.com [http://s.wordpress.com/i/emails/blavatar-default.png] [http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d4d657f2b5414e1a9821c4a3ed7cdea9?s=50&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D50&r=G] Law Clinics, Farmers and Fairness by Barry Recover By Barry Recover / September 3, 2013 THE SAD SAGA of the Hudson Family farm continues. You remember the Hudson's, who raise Cornish hens for Perdue and also a herd of beef cattle on 300 acres near Berlin on Maryland's Lower Eastern Shore. [Alan and Kristin Hudson] Alan and Kristin Hudson Alan and Kristin Hudson got sued in 2007 by the New York-based Water keeper Alliance, which hoped to win a landmark case holding Perdue liable for water pollution in drainage ditches caused by chicken manure from a sub-contractor like the Hudson's. The plaintiffs, represented in part by the University of Maryland's Environmental Law Clinic, embarrassed themselves. It was such a botched job that it makes an ideal case study (perhaps at the rival University of Baltimore Law School). Now comes the sequel: The federal judge who threw out the Water keeper case with critical comments about the poor quality of attorney work has now denied Perdue and the Hudson's $3 million in legal fees. But in doing so, U.S. District Senior Judge William Nickerson pounded the law clinic and environmental group once again. He said their lawyers presented a weak case; they intentionally misled the public in statements to the media; settlement efforts were insincere, and their terrible pre-trial preparation led to defeat in court. If ever there was a teachable moment for law school students, this is it. Plaintiff's Missed Opportunities Here's what Judge Nickerson had to say: "Plaintiff only needed to establish that Hudson's chickens contributed in some way to the high levels of pollutants coming off the farm and ultimately entering the Pocomoke River." But the Water keeper lawyers missed that chance by "the lack of sufficient and appropriate sampling and testing." Such an elemental mistake, the judge concluded, made it impossible to tell if the chickens or the cows caused the water pollution. When the clinic's legal team switched tactics and tried to blame bacterial pollution on "chicken dust" from exhaust fans in the chicken houses, it again failed to take samples. The judge wrote in a biting commentary, "One is left to ponder why Plaintiff failed to conduct the testing that, at least in hindsight, seems so obviously necessary and critical to the proof of its claim." This, according to the judge, was a key "tactical misjudgment." The case turned, in his view, on the Water keeper and law clinic lawyers' "failure to properly prepare its case by conducting the necessary sampling." Poor Legal Work In a classic judicial understatement, Judge Nickerson added, "In this Court's view, Plaintiff's claim was not pursued or litigated as well as it could have been." Put in more common terms, it was a royal screw-up. Yet because the case wasn't frivolous or unreasonable, the judge decided punitive payment of legal fees should not be assessed. Judge Nickerson was especially upset about the Water keeper and law clinic attorneys' handling of pre-trial settlement talks. He looked at all the negotiating documents and concluded litigators were "not seriously working to settle this matter." Indeed, they demanded more concessions from Perdue than they could have gained in court, according to the judge. They rejected a Perdue offer to jointly fund an educational institution to study agriculture-related issues. As a result of the Water keeper's hostile action, Perdue also ended a clean waters initiative to help chicken farmers become better environmental stewards. With considerable sadness the judge wrote, "It is disappointing that no agreement that could have actually benefitted the Chesapeake Bay came from these negotiations. . . . It is most unfortunate that so much time and so many resources were expended on this action that accomplished so little." The non-diplomatic version: What a pathetic effort and what a waste of time and money that could have been put toward cleaning up the bay. On to Annapolis That's not the end, though. The Hudson's' lawyer says he will go before the state Board of Public Works demanding reimbursement for legal fees. There's $300,000 in the state budget because of the law clinic's questionable involvement in prosecuting (critics use the word "persecuting") the Hudsons. Gov. Martin O'Malley got so angry he wrote to the law school dean about the propriety of such partisan educational activity. Enraged rural legislators also tacked another $250,000 onto the budget for the University of Maryland to start an agricultural law clinic or advisory group to "assist farmers in the state with estates and trusts issues, compliance with environmental laws and other matters necessary to preserve family farms." Clearly, the law clinic's ill-fated representation of the Waterkeeper Alliance in going after Eastern Shore chicken farmers has generated widespread State House skepticism. When the reimbursement issue comes before the board, pointed questions will almost surely be directed at the law clinic and the University of Maryland, Baltimore's president. This unfortunate judicial episode could have and should have been avoided. It is proving costly to taxpayers and deeply embarrassing to the law clinic. It's time to move on, if only leaders at the law school can put their personal and professional egos aside long enough to find an even-handed way to teach students about both sides of environmental law. ### Barry Rascovar | September 3, 2013 at 11:44 am | URL: http://wp.me/p3uIgh-7U This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image004.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: image004.gif URL: From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Sep 4 14:59:49 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:59:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: <50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> <50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is exactly why I ask the question - I can't afford to have my laptop die on me in the middle of a hearing so stability with complex programs is critical. I have heard that windows 8 is still a bit buggy for JAWS, but I wanted to know if others had expeerienced that as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:46 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question the power of your laptop actually is an issue. windows 7 and jaws 14 is a great combo if your computer has a good processor, but it will freeze up on a bad one, especially if youre using a complex website like westlaw. i would also appreciate any suggestions for jaws/OS combinations and laptop suggestions for use in court and other situations where you cant afford to have jaws go silent from practicing attorneys. ill be in court a fair amount this year as a part of clinical work, and will be graduating in may. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:14, "Ross Doerr" wrote: > This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. > I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. > For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or > nexis and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which > operating system do you find to be the most stable? > I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time > I try to use a legal application that others know is an issue. > I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with > getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal > profession have found to be an issue. > Any sugestions would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6638 - Release Date: 09/04/13 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 4 15:25:01 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:25:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Seattle Office for Civil Rights Civil Rights Analyst - Intake Investigator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Closes September 10. From: Chin, Mike [mailto:Mike.Chin at seattle.gov] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:16 PM To: Chin, Mike Cc: Chin, Mike Subject: Seattle Office for Civil Rights Civil Rights Analyst - Intake Investigator Greetings! Attached is a job announcement for a Civil Rights Intake Investigator position (part-time) with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights. The position will be open through September 10. Please feel free to share this with anyone who you think may be qualified and/or interested in working for SOCR as an intake investigator. If you have any questions please let me know. Thank you! Mike CIVIL RIGHTS INTAKE INVESTIGATOR - Local #17 Office for Civil Rights Job Title: Civil Rights Intake Investigator Job Number: 2013-00874 Salary: $28.88 - $33.56 Hourly Location: Central Building, 810 3rd Ave., Seattle, Washington Job Type: Civil Service Exempt, Regular, Part-Time Shift: Day Department: Seattle Office for Civil Right Bargaining Unit: PTE, Local 17 - Professionals Closing Date/Time: Tue. 09/10/13 4:00 PM Pacific Time The Office for Civil Rights is committed to creating and sustaining an organization free of institutional racism; successful candidates must demonstrate an understanding of the relationship of race, racism, and multiculturalism to their job function and their commitment to creating organizations free of racism. Primary Duties: Conduct intake interviews and gather information to determine if allegations meet the elements of discrimination or there is a possible violation of Seattle Paid Sick Time and Safe Time Ordinance (PSST) or Job Assistance Ordinance (JAO). Identify allegations of illegal discrimination or violations PSST or JAO that meet jurisdictional requirements and prima facie elements. Draft charges based on the information gathered and meet production requirements. Conduct respondent information search for party notification and other intake duties as assigned. Process signed charges for case investigation. Work may require conducting training regarding discrimination laws, PSST and JAO. Provides information to customers regarding illegal discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations, and contracting and violations of the PSST and the JAO (effective November 1, 2013). The work product of the Enforcement Division is ultimately subject to judicial scrutiny and must meet procedural and technical standards in accordance with HUD and EEOC regulations. Required Qualifications: Knowledge of discrimination laws (Employment, Housing, and Public Accommodations), PSST, and JAO is required along with proficient use of written and spoken English, strong critical thinking and analytical skills, strong computer word processing ability, demonstrated ability to effectively manage stressful situations, ability to contribute positively to a diverse working environment. A baccalaureate degree in humanities, public relations, social sciences, political science, law or a related field and one year of professional level experience in a public or private organization dealing with employment, housing or related issues involving discrimination are also requirements for this position. A combination of education, training and work experience may substitute for the baccalaureate degree requirement. Desired Qualifications: Skills in Windows XP, Microsoft Office 2000 or later (Word, Access, PowerPoint, Excel). Spoken and written proficiency in a second language preferred. Experience in working with diverse customers over the phone, in-person, and by mail. Must be detail oriented, have strong communication skills, and ability to identify potential discrimination or violations of PSST and JAO and summarize the information in order to investigate the complaint. Conduct computer research to gather contact information to notify respondents to a charge. A contemporaneous writing exercise in English will be conducted for those candidates selected for an oral interview. How to Apply: Applications completed online are preferred. See the City of Seattle's website at www.seattle/gov/personnel/employment/. You may also pick up or drop off an application at the City of Seattle Personnel Department, Seattle Municipal Tower, 700 5th Avenue, Suite 5400, Seattle, 98104. Please provide all requested information on the application. Incomplete applications may have a bearing on their consideration. Michael Chin Enforcement Manager THE SEATTLE OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS 810 Third Avenue, Suite 750 Seattle, Washington 98104-1627 ________________________________ direct: 206.684.8063 | fax: 206.684.0332 | main: 206.684.4500 www.cityofseattle.gov/civilrights/ *Reasonable accommodation and language interpretive services are available upon request. **This communication is the property of the Seattle Office of Civil Rights and may contain confidential and privileged information or subject to public disclosure under RCW 42.56. Unauthorized use of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Name: CRA_intake_job_desciption_081613.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 168775 bytes Desc: CRA_intake_job_desciption_081613.pdf URL: From lilrichie411 at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 19:30:25 2013 From: lilrichie411 at gmail.com (Jordan Richardson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:30:25 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" Message-ID: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> Hi everybody! When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the employer make the arrangements or do I? Thanks, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Sep 4 22:00:15 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:00:15 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> Message-ID: Hello Mr. Doerr: I belong to the group of individuals with the mindset that says that if it is not broken, let's not bother fixing it !! For this reason, I still run Windows XP Professional and I'm a happy camper with this operating system. I do realize, however, that 99% or perhaps greater DO NOT agree with my school of thought. As such, I'll recommend Windows7 Professional. I'll stay away from Windows8, even Microsoft itself is planning to release Windows8.1 soonest, perhaps this month. It will be almost impossible now to find a laptop with Windows7 on it unless you're willing to pay an unmerited extra fee for a down grade. Here's what I do: I buy the laptop of choice, use Belarc Advisor to inventory the drivers for sound, video, web cam if any, mouse/touchpad, and bluetooth. Then, I unformat the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows7 Professional from the scratch. This way, I get rid of a lot of what I call "crapware." When installation is complete, I then download the drivers I had inventoried and install them. Long process, but it ensures that crapware are staved off my computer especially trial versions of a lot of software I may never use. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Sep 4 22:15:54 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:15:54 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer><50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <189D73A9FC6147C19C2A4992804828C2@victory2> Windows8 is buggy for all! Including its developer, Microsoft. NVDA, as I understand it, works reasonably well with Windows8. However, it can't deal with many of the applications that you and I must contend with in the workplace. So, it may jolly well be out of the question for consideration. To the gentleman seeking to know which laptop systems play fair with Jaws--hmm, that's going to be a tough one! A number of folks swear by Dell, but I personally won't touch Dell or HP with a ten-foot pole! I'm currently using a Sony laptop with a Core-I3 processor and it appears to be holding well. The young angels in the family take Toshiba to the bank and Acer might do reasonably well on the dancing floor! Ah, I almost forgot Asus! This company does pull its weight with respect to laptops. If the pennies are in sufficient quantities, consider the Panasonic ToughBook. I hear law enforcement uses this one! It is a real tank that can be thrown to the wall and picked up like nothing ever happened. Its cost is staggering! Hence the reason why it never sits on computer shelves waiting for an unsuspecting customer. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From amatney at hf-law.com Wed Sep 4 22:23:44 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:23:44 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225437721@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Some good points re XP. But I believe Microsoft is planning to retire that OS and stop supporting it (except in vary limited circumstances) as of April, 2014. For this reason, while I happily run XP pro on one of my machines at home, I wouldn't invest in it for a work system. I do occasionally experience odd crashes on my Win 7 Pro work laptop with JAWS and either Outlook or Word. I don't know if this is related to my particular hardware (which isn't the greatest) or what. But outside of these crashes, response times are fast. iManage is mostly accessible (though some odd issues with Braille and search folders persist). Best, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Hello Mr. Doerr: I belong to the group of individuals with the mindset that says that if it is not broken, let's not bother fixing it !! For this reason, I still run Windows XP Professional and I'm a happy camper with this operating system. I do realize, however, that 99% or perhaps greater DO NOT agree with my school of thought. As such, I'll recommend Windows7 Professional. I'll stay away from Windows8, even Microsoft itself is planning to release Windows8.1 soonest, perhaps this month. It will be almost impossible now to find a laptop with Windows7 on it unless you're willing to pay an unmerited extra fee for a down grade. Here's what I do: I buy the laptop of choice, use Belarc Advisor to inventory the drivers for sound, video, web cam if any, mouse/touchpad, and bluetooth. Then, I unformat the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows7 Professional from the scratch. This way, I get rid of a lot of what I call "crapware." When installation is complete, I then download the drivers I had inventoried and install them. Long process, but it ensures that crapware are staved off my computer especially trial versions of a lot of software I may never use. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Sep 4 22:30:07 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:30:07 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: <189D73A9FC6147C19C2A4992804828C2@victory2> References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer><50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> <189D73A9FC6147C19C2A4992804828C2@victory2> Message-ID: Thank you Olusegun, Very insightful. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:16 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Windows8 is buggy for all! Including its developer, Microsoft. NVDA, as I understand it, works reasonably well with Windows8. However, it can't deal with many of the applications that you and I must contend with in the workplace. So, it may jolly well be out of the question for consideration. To the gentleman seeking to know which laptop systems play fair with Jaws--hmm, that's going to be a tough one! A number of folks swear by Dell, but I personally won't touch Dell or HP with a ten-foot pole! I'm currently using a Sony laptop with a Core-I3 processor and it appears to be holding well. The young angels in the family take Toshiba to the bank and Acer might do reasonably well on the dancing floor! Ah, I almost forgot Asus! This company does pull its weight with respect to laptops. If the pennies are in sufficient quantities, consider the Panasonic ToughBook. I hear law enforcement uses this one! It is a real tank that can be thrown to the wall and picked up like nothing ever happened. Its cost is staggering! Hence the reason why it never sits on computer shelves waiting for an unsuspecting customer. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6639 - Release Date: 09/04/13 From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Sep 4 22:39:51 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:39:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225437721@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225437721@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <0917B4F16B834E139B266FBFFA53193B@mycomputer> Hello Angie: I've been very happy with my SP pro for years, but I'm stuck, I have to upgrade. I'm torn between Windows 7 and 8, I'm just trying to hold down on the volume of bugs I'll have to deal with. I'm hoping that Microsoft and Freedomscientific get it together so that I can avoid the usual "Don't buy it until its been out for more than one year" philosophy. When you look at what we have to pay as blind professionals for our computer access I'd expect that at some point we'd be able to get it up and running out of the box, running in a real world sense. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:24 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Some good points re XP. But I believe Microsoft is planning to retire that OS and stop supporting it (except in vary limited circumstances) as of April, 2014. For this reason, while I happily run XP pro on one of my machines at home, I wouldn't invest in it for a work system. I do occasionally experience odd crashes on my Win 7 Pro work laptop with JAWS and either Outlook or Word. I don't know if this is related to my particular hardware (which isn't the greatest) or what. But outside of these crashes, response times are fast. iManage is mostly accessible (though some odd issues with Braille and search folders persist). Best, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. ----------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:00 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Hello Mr. Doerr: I belong to the group of individuals with the mindset that says that if it is not broken, let's not bother fixing it !! For this reason, I still run Windows XP Professional and I'm a happy camper with this operating system. I do realize, however, that 99% or perhaps greater DO NOT agree with my school of thought. As such, I'll recommend Windows7 Professional. I'll stay away from Windows8, even Microsoft itself is planning to release Windows8.1 soonest, perhaps this month. It will be almost impossible now to find a laptop with Windows7 on it unless you're willing to pay an unmerited extra fee for a down grade. Here's what I do: I buy the laptop of choice, use Belarc Advisor to inventory the drivers for sound, video, web cam if any, mouse/touchpad, and bluetooth. Then, I unformat the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows7 Professional from the scratch. This way, I get rid of a lot of what I call "crapware." When installation is complete, I then download the drivers I had inventoried and install them. Long process, but it ensures that crapware are staved off my computer especially trial versions of a lot of software I may never use. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6639 - Release Date: 09/04/13 From blinddog3 at charter.net Wed Sep 4 22:40:13 2013 From: blinddog3 at charter.net (Steven Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:40:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> References: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007501cea9bf$b857c2d0$29074870$@charter.net> Hi Jordan, One of the best places to become better educated on the process as an employee, and a great site to provide to your employer as well, is the Job Accommodation site at www.askjan.org I think you will find this a wonderful site, and hope it will answer your questions. Steve -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" Hi everybody! When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the employer make the arrangements or do I? Thanks, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne t From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 4 22:50:18 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:50:18 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> <50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ross: I use Windows 8 at home. It took some time to figure it out but I can do basic functions with JAWS. Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:00 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question This is exactly why I ask the question - I can't afford to have my laptop die on me in the middle of a hearing so stability with complex programs is critical. I have heard that windows 8 is still a bit buggy for JAWS, but I wanted to know if others had expeerienced that as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:46 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question the power of your laptop actually is an issue. windows 7 and jaws 14 is a great combo if your computer has a good processor, but it will freeze up on a bad one, especially if youre using a complex website like westlaw. i would also appreciate any suggestions for jaws/OS combinations and laptop suggestions for use in court and other situations where you cant afford to have jaws go silent from practicing attorneys. ill be in court a fair amount this year as a part of clinical work, and will be graduating in may. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:14, "Ross Doerr" wrote: > This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. > I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. > For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or > nexis and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which > operating system do you find to be the most stable? > I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time > I try to use a legal application that others know is an issue. > I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with > getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal > profession have found to be an issue. > Any sugestions would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6638 - Release Date: 09/04/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Sep 4 23:05:02 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:05:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer><50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Noel, I note that you say you do basic functions With windows 8 at home. Is it accurate for me to assume that you aren't using it with Westlaw of legal resrouces yet? I really have heard a lot of the "Be careful with windows 8" if you're going to use your computer in a working environment. Ross -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:50 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Ross: I use Windows 8 at home. It took some time to figure it out but I can do basic functions with JAWS. Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:00 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question This is exactly why I ask the question - I can't afford to have my laptop die on me in the middle of a hearing so stability with complex programs is critical. I have heard that windows 8 is still a bit buggy for JAWS, but I wanted to know if others had expeerienced that as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:46 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question the power of your laptop actually is an issue. windows 7 and jaws 14 is a great combo if your computer has a good processor, but it will freeze up on a bad one, especially if youre using a complex website like westlaw. i would also appreciate any suggestions for jaws/OS combinations and laptop suggestions for use in court and other situations where you cant afford to have jaws go silent from practicing attorneys. ill be in court a fair amount this year as a part of clinical work, and will be graduating in may. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:14, "Ross Doerr" wrote: > This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. > I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. > For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or > nexis and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which > operating system do you find to be the most stable? > I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time > I try to use a legal application that others know is an issue. > I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with > getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal > profession have found to be an issue. > Any sugestions would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6639 - Release Date: 09/04/13 From rjaquiss at earthlink.net Wed Sep 4 23:27:51 2013 From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (Robert Jaquiss) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:27:51 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> References: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401cea9c6$60712690$215373b0$@earthlink.net> Hello: I would suggest that the best accommodation for print material that is not available electronically would be a scanner and either K1000 or Openbook. Unless you are dealing with books, scanning the documents goes reasonably quickly with modern software. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 12:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" Hi everybody! When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the employer make the arrangements or do I? Thanks, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40earthlink.n et From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 4 23:28:55 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:28:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer><50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Once I am on an internet site, nothing has changed. I assume that Westlaw would be no problem. The problem is getting used to how to access the internet. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:05 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Hi Noel, I note that you say you do basic functions With windows 8 at home. Is it accurate for me to assume that you aren't using it with Westlaw of legal resrouces yet? I really have heard a lot of the "Be careful with windows 8" if you're going to use your computer in a working environment. Ross -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:50 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Ross: I use Windows 8 at home. It took some time to figure it out but I can do basic functions with JAWS. Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:00 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question This is exactly why I ask the question - I can't afford to have my laptop die on me in the middle of a hearing so stability with complex programs is critical. I have heard that windows 8 is still a bit buggy for JAWS, but I wanted to know if others had expeerienced that as well. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sybren Hoekstra Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:46 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question the power of your laptop actually is an issue. windows 7 and jaws 14 is a great combo if your computer has a good processor, but it will freeze up on a bad one, especially if youre using a complex website like westlaw. i would also appreciate any suggestions for jaws/OS combinations and laptop suggestions for use in court and other situations where you cant afford to have jaws go silent from practicing attorneys. ill be in court a fair amount this year as a part of clinical work, and will be graduating in may. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:14, "Ross Doerr" wrote: > This question is not strictly a legal one, but is rooted in practice. > I am upgrading to a more modern computer. I run JAWS 14 pro. > For those of you out there who are in solo practice and use WestLaw or > nexis and the barrage of online legal resources as I do, which > operating system do you find to be the most stable? > I don't want to buy windows 8 only to find that it crashes every time > I try to use a legal application that others know is an issue. > I don't think Make or model of laptop matters, I'm ore concerned with > getting Windows 7 or 8 and stability factors that others in the legal > profession have found to be an issue. > Any sugestions would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6638 - Release Date: 09/04/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed. gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6639 - Release Date: 09/04/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From dravant at ameritech.net Wed Sep 4 23:44:02 2013 From: dravant at ameritech.net (Denise Avant) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:44:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: [DRBA] 2014 Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP Disability Rights Fellowship References: <536A6F8F8486F94A982D8431ACEF3CC062EEAD@EXCH-MB-02.aba.ad.abanet.org> Message-ID: <1D6D5D46-7C5F-41FA-B7AA-A94027718A2E@ameritech.net> Denise Avant dravant at ameritech.net P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Moore-Rhodes, Brandon" > Subject: [DRBA] 2014 Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP Disability Rights Fellowship > Date: September 3, 2013 9:54:36 AM CDT > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) - Official e-mail list of the Commission on Disability Right" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Moore-Rhodes, Brandon" > > FYI > Hello everyone: > > In September 2009, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP welcomed its first Disability Rights Fellow. We are now accepting applications for our sixth annual Disability Rights Fellowship to begin in September 2014. The Fellowship offers a law school graduate or judicial clerk with a disability and zero to three years of legal experience the opportunity to participate for a year in all phases of disability rights litigation at our firm in Baltimore, Maryland. > > Brown, Goldstein & Levy is an 18-lawyer law firm devoted principally to litigation. The firm has developed a national reputation for its high-profile, high-impact disability rights cases. Please visit our website for additional details about the Fellowship and the firm: www.browngold.com. Attached are accessible PDF and Word versions of the application requirements. Applications must be received no later than November 17, 2013. > > Please feel free to pass this information along to individuals who you believe would be interested in a great opportunity to both gain experience and put their knowledge and drive to salutary use. > > Thanks From rothmanjd at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 01:58:24 2013 From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:58:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: <000401cea9c6$60712690$215373b0$@earthlink.net> References: <4BE4803E-7DE6-49FB-922A-E4C3FFB4AE9B@gmail.com> <000401cea9c6$60712690$215373b0$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003c01cea9db$680fa1f0$382ee5d0$@gmail.com> Hi Jordan, Strictly speaking, though an employer is required to provide you with reasonable accommodations so you can effectively perform your job duties, the employer is not obligated to provide you with the accommodation you prefer. So, for example, if I request Jaws, but my employer has WindowEyes approved on the technology infrastructure, the employer is not required to give me Jaws unless WindowEyes is not going to be effective. It'd be hard to win such an argument. A better example is if you request Jaws and they offer you ZoomText - you could argue that ZoomText would be an effective accommodation because it isn't as powerful, doesn't have as many features, and emphasizes zooming in rather than speech, and you are totally blind and can't use the zoom feature. Now Braille is a more difficult area. If you are asking for a $6K Braille embosser while working at a nonprofit that employs 2 people, they could argue that such an expense would constitute an undue hardship on the employer (much harder for them to argue this when they're a larger employer because they have to look at their entire company budget). But they could buy you a Braille writer or slate and stylus. Or, they could, theoretically say, "we'll give you Jaws. Then you'd have to justify you need Braille, and what sort of device to access it. But if you can get your work done effectively without a Braille embosser, then they're not going to be obligated to provide it. Remember, the rule for reasonable accommodations in the workplace is that employers have to provide effective reasonable accommodations, not the accommodation of choice. There's a terrific document on the EEOC's website called "Enforcement Guidance: Reasonable Accommodation and Undue Hardship under the Americans with Disabilities Act." The document can be accessed at http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/accommodation.html Hope this helps. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Ronza -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Jaquiss Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:28 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" Hello: I would suggest that the best accommodation for print material that is not available electronically would be a scanner and either K1000 or Openbook. Unless you are dealing with books, scanning the documents goes reasonably quickly with modern software. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Richardson Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 12:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" Hi everybody! When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the employer make the arrangements or do I? Thanks, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40earthlink.n et _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rothmanjd%40gmail.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 5 12:28:13 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:28:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: eFedlink-FDWC News Hour webinar Thursday, September 19 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E151D52@pl-emsmb12> From: Banjo, Akinyemi - ODEP [mailto:banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: eFedlink-FDWC News Hour webinar Thursday, September 19 [Logo for the Federal Disability Workforce Consortium. Seven profiles of people with various disabilities are presented. A quote on the bottom of the logo reads "working together to improve employment opportunities for people with disabilities."] "The News Hour" Brought to you by the Federal Disability Workforce Consortium (FDWC) When: Thursday, September 19, 2013 Time: 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm Eastern Where: The program will be held online via WebEx Link: http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/edi/webinar-login.cfm?activity_id=4472 This free series of webinars shares information related to the employment of people with disabilities in the Federal government. This particular webinar will focus on Emergency Readiness. After large scale events such as Superstorm Sandy and the recent California wildfires, the need of all people to be able to escape from an emergency sits in the mind of many Americans. What are the options however, when escape may be further complicated by disability, or the inaccessibility of your workplace? This webinar will explore some of the methods the Department of Labor has developed to make sure that everyone - including people with disabilities can safely evacuate during an emergency. In addition we will focus on preparedness, emergency evacuation, communication, as well as some of the new practices being developed by emergency managers and individuals with disabilities. The program will be held online via WebEx Link to join the webinar: http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/edi/webinar-login.cfm?activity_id=4472 Audio is provided via your computer speaker. RSVP is not required. Captioning will be provided. Visit www.efedlink.org for updates, archive of past News Hour programs, other news and events relevant to the Federal disability community. Not sure if your computer has the minimum system requirements? Join a test meeting http://www.webex.com/test-meeting.html Akinyemi Banjo Policy Advisor U.S. Department of Labor Office of Disability Employment Policy 202-693-7919 If you receive this email and you have not registered on eFedlink.org, please do so today. Federal Disability Workforce Consortium's communication is now mostly done through eFedlink.org and you will avoid missing out on any information about resources and upcoming events. If you have received this email and do not wish to be part of the Federal Disability Workforce Consortium's Email List, please email banjo.akinyemi at dol.gov with "Unsubscribe" in the subject line to be removed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 66698 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Sep 5 13:16:24 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:16:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question In-Reply-To: <0917B4F16B834E139B266FBFFA53193B@mycomputer> References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225437721@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <0917B4F16B834E139B266FBFFA53193B@mycomputer> Message-ID: <003801ceaa3a$1f3c1760$5db44620$@wiennergould.com> I have windows 7 with the latest version of jaws 14, and it works very well. I don't know much about windows 8, but I have been told by a computer expert I trust that it is okay, but you don't need it. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:40 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Hello Angie: I've been very happy with my SP pro for years, but I'm stuck, I have to upgrade. I'm torn between Windows 7 and 8, I'm just trying to hold down on the volume of bugs I'll have to deal with. I'm hoping that Microsoft and Freedomscientific get it together so that I can avoid the usual "Don't buy it until its been out for more than one year" philosophy. When you look at what we have to pay as blind professionals for our computer access I'd expect that at some point we'd be able to get it up and running out of the box, running in a real world sense. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:24 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Stability question Some good points re XP. But I believe Microsoft is planning to retire that OS and stop supporting it (except in vary limited circumstances) as of April, 2014. For this reason, while I happily run XP pro on one of my machines at home, I wouldn't invest in it for a work system. I do occasionally experience odd crashes on my Win 7 Pro work laptop with JAWS and either Outlook or Word. I don't know if this is related to my particular hardware (which isn't the greatest) or what. But outside of these crashes, response times are fast. iManage is mostly accessible (though some odd issues with Braille and search folders persist). Best, Angie ----------------------------- Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. 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I do realize, however, that 99% or perhaps greater DO NOT agree with my school of thought. As such, I'll recommend Windows7 Professional. I'll stay away from Windows8, even Microsoft itself is planning to release Windows8.1 soonest, perhaps this month. It will be almost impossible now to find a laptop with Windows7 on it unless you're willing to pay an unmerited extra fee for a down grade. Here's what I do: I buy the laptop of choice, use Belarc Advisor to inventory the drivers for sound, video, web cam if any, mouse/touchpad, and bluetooth. Then, I unformat the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows7 Professional from the scratch. This way, I get rid of a lot of what I call "crapware." When installation is complete, I then download the drivers I had inventoried and install them. Long process, but it ensures that crapware are staved off my computer especially trial versions of a lot of software I may never use. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.c om ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6639 - Release Date: 09/04/13 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 5 16:55:29 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:55:29 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Forthcoming First Training Conference Co-hosted by Fed. Employees with Disabilities Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E151F51@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: I am pleased to share the below. For ADR professionals, such as myself, who specialize in disability related conflicts, there is an EEO track that will occur at this conference. For more information, do consult the general mailbox (copied) or do contact the website of the organization. Do share with your network. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. Only a few days left to register for FEDs & FEDQ Conference!!! There are only a few days left to register for the FEDs and FEDQ Training Conference. It's time to talk to your management about using that end of year funding to attend this great event. For the low price of $350.00 you get to attend sessions on 3 separate affinity groups. AND it is a sanctioned OPM training. Agenda available at: http://www.fedsfirst.com/TrainingConference.php -----> From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 5 17:20:33 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:20:33 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Lyceum Seeking Board Members, Particularly CFO Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E152006@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: This is to indicate that the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, a dynamic organization, who has already advance better conversations on public policy, is in search of additional board members, more particularly it seeks people with accounting or grant writing background to serve in a Treasurer capacity. Some notes on the expectations are below. Being a regionally focused organization with a hope for future chapters in different states akin to the movement after which it is named in part, board members may not per se need be in Maryland, although that is perhaps at this point preferred, as the Lyceum is developing its technical abilities in terms of on-line meetings. Interested parties may contact Gary C. Norman, Esq. at (410) 241-6745 or may contact midatlanticjournal at gmail.com with Gary as a copy at GLNorman15 at hotmail.com. Do share with your network. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman Ø As this is a working board, board members must actively share their time and talents. Ø Board members must mandatorily attend board meetings. Ø For a financial person, it should be a limited number of hours a month, tracking donations; filing IRS documentation (at this point, a card for the 990N); and other duties as assigned by the Co-Presidents Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. and Gary C. Norman, Esq. Ø Board members should be proactive with ideas and suggestions, serving on at least one committee and helping to Chair at least one event a year. Ø As they are able, board members should "give or get" a limited amount to sustain the organization. Of course, this is a flexible rule reasonably implemented. From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Fri Sep 6 15:35:18 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:35:18 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Stability question References: <52F0290155424405BA9FD6A3B8F44236@mycomputer><50727E85-E920-46EB-8AD4-C1F1E85F71B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9FD9AE8B33204BDDBD5049137E76DEF6@victory2> Whilst I am not a fan of the Apple IOS because of its proprietary nature, I admire Apple for having a built-in screen reader in its devices. I'm looking forward to the day when I'll wake up to read or hear about a built-in screen reader for the Windows operating system. I'm not talking about Narrator, but something far better than that! This does not mean that Jaws and Window-Eyes can't still enjoy the light of day. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Fri Sep 6 16:34:26 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:34:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Due Notice: GDB Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E154C2D@pl-emsmb12> Do find the below stated notices about Guide Dogs for the Blind on whose alumni board I am serving. The organization will start a search for a new CEO. I am hopeful that candidates with disabilities will apply. Particularly, I am hopeful that this information reaches local area alumni. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. September Alumni Speakers Series Presents: Ask the Alumni Association Board! Do you have burning questions that you want to ask your alumni board of directors or your Alumni Director? Well here is your chance. The Alumni Association is hosting a speaker Series for this very purpose. When: September 12, 2013 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM Pacific Time Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada):1-877-668-4490 Attendee access code: 20928443 In order to help streamline this event, it would be helpful if you could forward questions in advance to Theresa Stern at tstern at guidedogs.com The Board will take questions from the floor as well. We hope you can join us, if not, a recording will be posted on the Alumni Only section of the GDB website, for your convenience, this section no longer requires you to present a password, unless you wish to access past editions of Alumni News. *** 2013 Reach for the Stars Scholarship Reminder - DEADLINE TO APPLY - SEPTEMBER 15, 2013 The GDB Alumni Association is accepting applications for the Reach for the Stars annual Scholarship. The award is in the amount of $1500, and the process is open to college students (including incoming freshmen) who will be enrolled in an accredited college or university during the 2013-2014 academic school years. The recipient will be selected by the Nominating Committee of the GDB Alumni Association Board of Directors. The deadline for applications is September 15, 2013. The scholarship winner will be announced at the GDB Alumni Reunion banquet on October 5, 2013. Applicants applying for the scholarship will need to provide the following documentation in MS Word or Rich Text format: 1) Cover letter: Introducing yourself to the committee including the applicant's email address, phone number, and mailing address. This letter should not exceed 150 words. 2) Essay: of 500 words or less in which the candidate outlines their course of study and the expected completion date of their studies. In addition to the applicant's academic aspirations, the scholarship judges will be keen to learn about the contestant's relationship with their guide dog, their previous experience in leadership and community service as well as their ultimate career ambitions. 3) Transcripts: to include grades for the last semester/year and proof of registration for the upcoming semester. 4) The candidate is also required to submit 2 letters of recommendation from someone with whom they have had an academic affiliation such as a professor, teacher, or school counselor. All scholarship material should be sent as attachments via email directed to GDB Alumni Association Director Theresa Stern at tstern at guidedogs.com. In order to avoid confusion, the attached files should follow the following naming format: Last Name First Name Introduction Letterers Last Name First Name_Essay_RSS Last Name First Name_Transcript_RSS Last Name_First Name_Recommendation Letter_RSS Many thanks to GDB Alumna Gina Harper and her family for making this scholarship possible! *** Alumni Reunion 2013 REGISTRATION DEADLINE EXTENDED TO SEPTEMBER 15! Register online at www.guidedogs.com/Alumni-Reunion See details below: Greetings GDB Alumni! It's time to get together and celebrate! Join us for the 2013 GDB Alumni Reunion! After our fabulous GDB Homecoming in 2010, lots of grads said that a major highlight was catching up with old friends, so your GDB Alumni Association Board is planning a Reunion Celebration that will give you that and so much more! Our theme this year is "Harnessing Health and Happiness", and you will have the opportunity to learn many new techniques that will keep you and your Guide Healthy and Happy for years to come! We'll kick off with a Question and Answer session with instructors, enjoy a poolside welcome reception and then on Saturday hear from informative speakers in the morning, visit with friends in the afternoon, and end the day enjoying a bountiful feast of delicious foods while we honor our fellow Alumni and friends at our Awards Banquet. Have you authored a book? If so we will have a special "Author's Corner" area set up where you can display and share your writings with the group. We will also be celebrating the completion of our brand new, state of the art, New Student Residence! On Friday and Saturday you will have an opportunity to tour this beautiful new building! Many of you kindly donated to the building and some of you helped in creating the amazing rock sculpture, here's a chance to see the outcome of your participation! Want to extend the fun? If you are able to join us early, we have arranged for an excursion on Thursday and another on Friday that fit with are theme of"Harnessing Health and Happiness". On Thursday participate in a kayaking adventure on the San Francisco Bay and enjoy a picnic lunch. Friday's offering is a trip where you will explore the nearby Wine Country and partake in the tasting of some of the most interesting and delicious wines in the world. For those who can stick around on Sunday, we will be providing a walking tour of the famous San Rafael Civic Center Farmers Market, where you can indulge all your senses! When: Reunion Celebration - Friday October 4, 2013 - Sunday October 6, 2013 / Special tours offered by Dimensions in Travel, on Thursday, Friday and Sunday for an additional charge. Where: Four Points by Sheraton Hotel, 1010 Northgate Dr., San Rafael & Guide Dogs for the Blind San Rafael Campus From steve.jacobson at visi.com Thu Sep 5 16:51:32 2013 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:51:32 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: <007501cea9bf$b857c2d0$29074870$@charter.net> Message-ID: Jordan, As you know, I'm not a lawyer but have been employed for a long time, so my comments here are of a practical nature rather than from a strictly legal perspective. In terms of reasonable accommodations, there are many variables that have to be taken into account. I think it is probably fair to say that your goal should be to figure out how you can do a given job with the least requirements placed upon your employer while giving you as much control as possible. Whether your employer is obligated to provide a given accommodation can depend some on whether you are employed by the government or whether you are in the private sector. Also, even though you might be able to make a case that something is required, if your employer is small, it could be considered an undo burrden under the law. Even if it isn't, it is hard to prove that the extra cost of hiring you didn't affect how they viewed you as a job candidate, so as much as possible, you want to present approaches that put you in control. What do you mean when you ask about providing braille? If you mean do they have to provide documents in paper braille, you need to consider that they are not likely going to have the ability to do that in-house unlike your experience at the University of Minnesota. You will probably know more about it than they will. They will probably have to provide documents using a third party and if there are deadlines, this won't always be possible whether it is the law or not. Commercially produced hardcopy braille is also expensive. You are going to want to become familiar with how to produce your own braille documents when you neeed to, and sometimes you'll only want a particular portion in braille. If you need a braille printer and software to do this, you might be able to negotiate with Minnesota State Services for the Blind for some of this if it means getting a job. It is important to know your rights under the law, but at the same time it is good to remember that it is up to you to get a given task done, and sometimes this means that you have to be innovative and resourceful. Jordan, if you want to talk through some of this, there are certainly a number of us locally who would be willing to try to help. Even with the law, handling some of this is different than it is while you are in school. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- >From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >Richardson >Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:30 PM >To: Blind Law Mailing List >Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" >Hi everybody! >When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable >accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the >employer make the arrangements or do I? >Thanks, >Jordan Richardson >Sent from my iPad >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne >t >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 6 23:16:03 2013 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:16:03 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with your comments. I have been working since I was in high school in the late sixties and whether I got and kept a job depended much upon my own resourcefulness when it came to ways of figuring out how I would do it. Much of this was long before reasonable accommodation had even been thought of. in one of my first jobs while in high school working as a telemarketer I had to have friends and/or family record call lists so I could make my calls. I had to keep notes of contacts in Braille and the accommodation by the employer was that when I made a sale a coworker or supervisor would write up the details for me. I frequently had to do my own transcribing of other documents in later jobs and it seemed normal for me to do it without asking for accommodation other than having the documents recorded for transcription sometimes at my own expense. When I worked as a mental health clinician my employer did have support staff record newly assigned files and other incoming information on tape for me to refer to or transcribe notes as I saw fit. When I worked as a vocational expert in Social Security hearings I had to hire my own reader/assistant at my own expense. Now as a free lance paralegal I regularly have to find individual solutions to accommodate how I do my job. While it has become easier with the improvements in technology I can only expect the law firms or solo practitioners that I work with to do so much. After all I am marketing myself as a competent professional to provide services. The duty of reasonable accommodation can't always be passed on to an employer or contractor. The more self-reliant and independent you are in a work setting the greater likelihood exists that you won't be part of the 70% of unemployed blind people. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" ; Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" > Jordan, > > As you know, I'm not a lawyer but have been employed for a long time, so > my comments here are of a practical nature rather than > from a strictly legal perspective. In terms of reasonable accommodations, > there are many variables that have to be taken into > account. I think it is probably fair to say that your goal should be to > figure out how you can do a given job with the least > requirements placed upon your employer while giving you as much control as > possible. Whether your employer is obligated to > provide a given accommodation can depend some on whether you are employed > by the government or whether you are in the private > sector. Also, even though you might be able to make a case that something > is required, if your employer is small, it could be > considered an undo burrden under the law. Even if it isn't, it is hard to > prove that the extra cost of hiring you didn't affect > how they viewed you as a job candidate, so as much as possible, you want > to present approaches that put you in control. > > What do you mean when you ask about providing braille? If you mean do > they have to provide documents in paper braille, you need > to consider that they are not likely going to have the ability to do that > in-house unlike your experience at the University of > Minnesota. You will probably know more about it than they will. They > will probably have to provide documents using a third party > and if there are deadlines, this won't always be possible whether it is > the law or not. Commercially produced hardcopy braille is > also expensive. You are going to want to become familiar with how to > produce your own braille documents when you neeed to, and > sometimes you'll only want a particular portion in braille. If you need a > braille printer and software to do this, you might be > able to negotiate with Minnesota State Services for the Blind for some of > this if it means getting a job. It is important to know > your rights under the law, but at the same time it is good to remember > that it is up to you to get a given task done, and > sometimes this means that you have to be innovative and resourceful. > > Jordan, if you want to talk through some of this, there are certainly a > number of us locally who would be willing to try to help. > Even with the law, handling some of this is different than it is while you > are in school. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- >>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >>Richardson >>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:30 PM >>To: Blind Law Mailing List >>Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" > >>Hi everybody! > >>When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable >>accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the >>employer make the arrangements or do I? > >>Thanks, >>Jordan Richardson > >>Sent from my iPad >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne >>t > > >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>blindlaw: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 6 23:44:38 2013 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 18:44:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" References: Message-ID: <86CE627D70CC47BDB3ED6C1F3FDE24B4@HP8730notebook> chuck, i am willing to bet a person capable of ruining your ability to contract services didn't purposely favor another contractor and intentionally put you out of business either! Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" >I agree with your comments. I have been working since I was in high school >in the late sixties and whether I got and kept a job depended much upon my >own resourcefulness when it came to ways of figuring out how I would do it. >Much of this was long before reasonable accommodation had even been thought >of. in one of my first jobs while in high school working as a telemarketer >I had to have friends and/or family record call lists so I could make my >calls. I had to keep notes of contacts in Braille and the accommodation by >the employer was that when I made a sale a coworker or supervisor would >write up the details for me. I frequently had to do my own transcribing of >other documents in later jobs and it seemed normal for me to do it without >asking for accommodation other than having the documents recorded for >transcription sometimes at my own expense. When I worked as a mental health >clinician my employer did have support staff record newly assigned files >and other incoming information on tape for me to refer to or transcribe >notes as I saw fit. When I worked as a vocational expert in Social Security >hearings I had to hire my own reader/assistant at my own expense. Now as a >free lance paralegal I regularly have to find individual solutions to >accommodate how I do my job. While it has become easier with the >improvements in technology I can only expect the law firms or solo >practitioners that I work with to do so much. After all I am marketing >myself as a competent professional to provide services. The duty of >reasonable accommodation can't always be passed on to an employer or >contractor. The more self-reliant and independent you are in a work >setting the greater likelihood exists that you won't be part of the 70% of >unemployed blind people. > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Jacobson" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" ; > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" > > >> Jordan, >> >> As you know, I'm not a lawyer but have been employed for a long time, so >> my comments here are of a practical nature rather than >> from a strictly legal perspective. In terms of reasonable >> accommodations, there are many variables that have to be taken into >> account. I think it is probably fair to say that your goal should be to >> figure out how you can do a given job with the least >> requirements placed upon your employer while giving you as much control >> as possible. Whether your employer is obligated to >> provide a given accommodation can depend some on whether you are employed >> by the government or whether you are in the private >> sector. Also, even though you might be able to make a case that >> something is required, if your employer is small, it could be >> considered an undo burrden under the law. Even if it isn't, it is hard >> to prove that the extra cost of hiring you didn't affect >> how they viewed you as a job candidate, so as much as possible, you want >> to present approaches that put you in control. >> >> What do you mean when you ask about providing braille? If you mean do >> they have to provide documents in paper braille, you need >> to consider that they are not likely going to have the ability to do that >> in-house unlike your experience at the University of >> Minnesota. You will probably know more about it than they will. They >> will probably have to provide documents using a third party >> and if there are deadlines, this won't always be possible whether it is >> the law or not. Commercially produced hardcopy braille is >> also expensive. You are going to want to become familiar with how to >> produce your own braille documents when you neeed to, and >> sometimes you'll only want a particular portion in braille. If you need >> a braille printer and software to do this, you might be >> able to negotiate with Minnesota State Services for the Blind for some of >> this if it means getting a job. It is important to know >> your rights under the law, but at the same time it is good to remember >> that it is up to you to get a given task done, and >> sometimes this means that you have to be innovative and resourceful. >> >> Jordan, if you want to talk through some of this, there are certainly a >> number of us locally who would be willing to try to help. >> Even with the law, handling some of this is different than it is while >> you are in school. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >>>Richardson >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:30 PM >>>To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" >> >>>Hi everybody! >> >>>When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable >>>accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the >>>employer make the arrangements or do I? >> >>>Thanks, >>>Jordan Richardson >> >>>Sent from my iPad >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne >>>t >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 7 01:04:39 2013 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 18:04:39 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" In-Reply-To: <86CE627D70CC47BDB3ED6C1F3FDE24B4@HP8730notebook> References: <86CE627D70CC47BDB3ED6C1F3FDE24B4@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: the fact is that working as a free lance paralegal contracts are not bid on as in the case of a government entity. The field is competitive and if I can't provide service in a timely efficient and cost effective manner I can very easily be replaced. In the legal field the economy has changed and methods of attorneys and law firms doing business have changed in order to be more cost effective. This is what clients expect. private corporate law firms are outsourcing jobs for document review and preparation to places like India where those involved have no training in state specific U.S. laws. chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" To: ; "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" > chuck, > > i am willing to bet a person capable of ruining your ability to contract > services didn't purposely favor another contractor and intentionally put > you out of business either! > Bryan Schulz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" > > >>I agree with your comments. I have been working since I was in high school >>in the late sixties and whether I got and kept a job depended much upon my >>own resourcefulness when it came to ways of figuring out how I would do >>it. Much of this was long before reasonable accommodation had even been >>thought of. in one of my first jobs while in high school working as a >>telemarketer I had to have friends and/or family record call lists so I >>could make my calls. I had to keep notes of contacts in Braille and the >>accommodation by the employer was that when I made a sale a coworker or >>supervisor would write up the details for me. I frequently had to do my >>own transcribing of other documents in later jobs and it seemed normal for >>me to do it without asking for accommodation other than having the >>documents recorded for transcription sometimes at my own expense. When I >>worked as a mental health clinician my employer did have support staff >>record newly assigned files and other incoming information on tape for me >>to refer to or transcribe notes as I saw fit. When I worked as a >>vocational expert in Social Security hearings I had to hire my own >>reader/assistant at my own expense. Now as a free lance paralegal I >>regularly have to find individual solutions to accommodate how I do my >>job. While it has become easier with the improvements in technology I can >>only expect the law firms or solo practitioners that I work with to do so >>much. After all I am marketing myself as a competent professional to >>provide services. The duty of reasonable accommodation can't always be >>passed on to an employer or contractor. The more self-reliant and >>independent you are in a work setting the greater likelihood exists that >>you won't be part of the 70% of unemployed blind people. >> Chuck >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Jacobson" >> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" ; >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" >> >> >>> Jordan, >>> >>> As you know, I'm not a lawyer but have been employed for a long time, so >>> my comments here are of a practical nature rather than >>> from a strictly legal perspective. In terms of reasonable >>> accommodations, there are many variables that have to be taken into >>> account. I think it is probably fair to say that your goal should be to >>> figure out how you can do a given job with the least >>> requirements placed upon your employer while giving you as much control >>> as possible. Whether your employer is obligated to >>> provide a given accommodation can depend some on whether you are >>> employed by the government or whether you are in the private >>> sector. Also, even though you might be able to make a case that >>> something is required, if your employer is small, it could be >>> considered an undo burrden under the law. Even if it isn't, it is hard >>> to prove that the extra cost of hiring you didn't affect >>> how they viewed you as a job candidate, so as much as possible, you want >>> to present approaches that put you in control. >>> >>> What do you mean when you ask about providing braille? If you mean do >>> they have to provide documents in paper braille, you need >>> to consider that they are not likely going to have the ability to do >>> that in-house unlike your experience at the University of >>> Minnesota. You will probably know more about it than they will. They >>> will probably have to provide documents using a third party >>> and if there are deadlines, this won't always be possible whether it is >>> the law or not. Commercially produced hardcopy braille is >>> also expensive. You are going to want to become familiar with how to >>> produce your own braille documents when you neeed to, and >>> sometimes you'll only want a particular portion in braille. If you need >>> a braille printer and software to do this, you might be >>> able to negotiate with Minnesota State Services for the Blind for some >>> of this if it means getting a job. It is important to know >>> your rights under the law, but at the same time it is good to remember >>> that it is up to you to get a given task done, and >>> sometimes this means that you have to be innovative and resourceful. >>> >>> Jordan, if you want to talk through some of this, there are certainly a >>> number of us locally who would be willing to try to help. >>> Even with the law, handling some of this is different than it is while >>> you are in school. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Steve Jacobson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >>>>Richardson >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:30 PM >>>>To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>Subject: [blindlaw] "Reasonable Accommodations" >>> >>>>Hi everybody! >>> >>>>When are employers obligated to provide Braille as a reasonable >>>>accommodation? Is it only where electronic is not possible? Does the >>>>employer make the arrangements or do I? >>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Jordan Richardson >>> >>>>Sent from my iPad >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>blindlaw mailing list >>>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>blindlaw: >>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne >>>>t >>> >>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>blindlaw mailing list >>>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>blindlaw: >>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net > From mikefry79 at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 18:19:41 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:19:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Iowa grants permits for blind residents to carry guns in public Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Did you see this news story about a blind man and a blind woman who were issued permits to carry guns in public in Iowa. The article describes gun laws as they relate to blind people in various states. There is even a quote from NFB's Charles Danielson. For my part, I agree with Danielson's statement. A person that is visually impaired should not be denied a gun permit just because he or she is visually impaired. The article quotes a disability rights advocate who said that she thought that the ADA would prohibit blanket bans on blind people obtaining gun permits. Does anyone have thoughts about how the 2nd Amendment would come into play here for blind people? I think the 2nd Amendment guarantees people with disabilities could also get guns. Here's the link to the article. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130908/NEWS/309080061/Iowa-grants-permits-for-blind-residents-to-carry-guns-in-public?Frontpage&nclick_check=1 Mike Fry From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 9 16:46:28 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:46:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Two New Positions Open at Legal Voice in Seattle (attorney and outreach positions) Message-ID: From: Your Friends at Legal Voice [mailto:info at legalvoice.org] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:09 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Two New Positions Open at Legal Voice Having trouble viewing this email? Click here Hi Noel, Legal Voice is excited to announce two new contract positions to support the Senior Legal Wellness Program. 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1811 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 9 17:17:21 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:17:21 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] General Attorney (Trade Regulation), Federal Trade Commission, Job Announcement Number: NWR-2013-0005 In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DE7BCB6118@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341DE7BCB6118@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov> Message-ID: Link: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/351077000 Text: Job Title: General Attorney (Trade Regulation) Agency: Federal Trade Commission Job Announcement Number: NWR-2013-0005 SALARY RANGE: $73,420.00 to $113,496.00 / Per Year OPEN PERIOD: Friday, September 06, 2013 to Friday, September 20, 2013 SERIES & GRADE: GS-0905-12/13 POSITION INFORMATION: Excepted Service - - Permanent PROMOTION POTENTIAL:15 DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy in the following location: Seattle, WA WHO MAY APPLY: All Qualified Candidates JOB SUMMARY: OUR MISSION: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces a variety of federal antitrust and consumer protection laws. The Commission seeks to ensure that the nation's markets function competitively and are vigorous, efficient, and free of undue restrictions. The Commission also works to enhance the smooth operation of the marketplace by eliminating acts or practices that are unfair or deceptive. Finally, the Commission undertakes economic analysis to support its law enforcement efforts and to contribute to the policy deliberations of the Congress, the Executive Branch, other independent agencies, and state and local governments when requested. The FTC is seeking an attorney to work in its Northwest Regional Office in Seattle, Washington. The Northwest Regional Office carries out the Commission's consumer protection programs in the geographical area that includes Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming. However, investigations, trials, and other responsibilities may require travel throughout the U.S. KEY REQUIREMENTS *Possess a J.D. or LL.B. degree from an accredited law school *Member in good standing of the Bar of a state or territory - U.S, P.R, D.C. *Relocation expenses will not be paid *US Citizenship -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUTIES: If selected for the position, you will perform the following legal duties: *Making initial determinations as to whether cases should be selected for investigations; *Determining legal theories and plans for investigations; *Conducting and managing investigations, including interviewing and deposing witnesses, gathering and reviewing documents, and reviewing completed investigational reports for legal sufficiency; *Assessing evidence gathered; *Drafting complaints, memoranda, and other documents; *Preparing for trial, litigating, and negotiating settlements in consumer protection matters; *Participating in pretrial conferences and conferring and corresponding with attorneys, businesspeople and other members of the public, including applicants, prospective witnesses, and other interested parties; *Representing the FTC in trials and hearings; *Performing special assignments as directed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: Applicants must have attained the first professional law degree (LL.B or J.D.) from an accredited law school and be an active member in good standing of the bar of a state, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, or a U.S. territory. Candidates with a strong background in consumer protection laws are particularly encouraged to apply. In addition, applicants must demonstrate excellent writing skills and be able to work effectively with other people, exercise sound judgment, and exhibit a strong interest in the work of the agency. For the GS-12 level: In addition to a law degree and active bar membership, you must have 12 months of legal experience after graduation from law school, and additional relevant experience or a graduate degree in a relevant area of study (e.g., experience or a degree in economics, publications examining aspects of intellectual property or other matter, pro bono work on behalf of underserved communities). For the GS-13 level: In addition to a law degree and active bar membership, applicants must have 24 months of legal experience after graduation from law school. At least 12 months of legal experience after graduation from law school must be comparable to the GS-12 grade level. Please note: Prior experience, legal and nonlegal experience gained before completing law school, cannot be used to satisfy the post law school experience requirements. Optional Documents: In addition to the required documents, you may submit the following: - Cover Letter - Writing Sample All applications must be received on-line via www.usajobs.gov HOW YOU WILL BE EVALUATED: You will be evaluated based on the overall strength of your credentials as demonstrated by your cover letter, resume, writing sample, and experience. The most qualified candidates will be selected for interviews, which will also be considered in making the final decision. Application of Veterans' Preference: There is no formal rating system for applying veterans' preference to attorney appointments in the excepted service; however, the Federal Trade Commission considers veterans' preference eligibility as a positive factor in attorney hiring. If you are eligible for veterans' preference, you are encouraged to include that information in your cover letter or resume and attach supporting documentation (e.g., DD Form 214 or other substantiating documents) to your submission. To preview questions please click here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENEFITS: The Federal Trade Commission offers a comprehensive benefits package. For details please click the link below. Benefits Offered OTHER INFORMATION: Click here for Additional Information, information for Displaced Federal Employees, and information on Special Hiring Authorities. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW TO APPLY: Individuals applying for this announcement are required to complete and submit an online application through the Office of Personnel Management's (OPM) application system, USAJOBS. The information you provide in USAJOBS is general information completed by all candidates. That information and your resume will become part of your application and will automatically be transferred to FT-SEE when you apply online. The submission of anything other than the below online application will result in your not being considered for this job. If applying online poses a hardship to any applicant, please contact us. Applicants must contact us at 202-326-2021 prior to the closing date to speak to someone who can provide assistance for online submission. Requests for extensions will not be granted. There are several parts of the application process that will affect your overall evaluation: 1. Your online resume (See Step 1 below). 2. Your responses to the eligibility questions. 3. Your responses to the vacancy specific self-assessment questions. 4. Submission of supporting documentation (See instructions under the "Required Documentation" section of this posting. You have until 11:59 PM Eastern Time on the closing date of this announcement to complete the following four-step application process: STEP 1: To apply, you must first register on USAJOBS at www.usajobs.opm.gov and have at least one resume associated with your account. Your online resume may be built using the USAJOBS resume builder or you can upload an existing resume from your computer. You must submit a resume to be considered for this position. Once you have completed the registration process, thoroughly review this vacancy announcement and then select the "Apply Online" button and follow the instructions provided. STEP 2: After selecting a resume to submit with your application package, you will be taken to FT-SEE to answer questions related to your experience and vacancy specific questions. The answers to the questions are necessary to evaluate your qualifications for the specific job to which you are applying. When completed, the information you provided through USAJOBS and the answers to the FT-SEE questions will become your application. STEP 3: Review your resume to make certain that it supports your responses to the questions. Once you submit your online application, you will see a screen telling you that your application has been successfully transmitted. If you do not receive this confirmation, you have not successfully completed your application. STEP 4: Submit Supporting Documentation, as necessary. NOTE: Paper applications and information sent by mail WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED. REQUIRED DOCUMENTS: To help you ensure your application fully outlines your qualifications and eligibility for this position, please submit the following documentation as appropriate. Some of the items listed may not apply to you. APPLICATION PACKAGE CHECKLIST __ Announcement number, title, and grade(s) of the position __ Full name, mailing address (including zip code) and day and evening phone numbers (with area code) __ Statement that you are a U.S. citizen __ Current Federal employees serving on a competitive career or career conditional appointment or reinstatement eligible must submit a copy of their most recent Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50). __Copy of DD Form 214 (Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty) (only if claiming veteran's preference) __SF-15 (Application for 10-point Veteran's Preference) plus the support documentation required by this form (if claiming 10-point veteran's preference) __ Paid and non-paid work experience related to the position. For each period of Work experience include: ___Job title ___Series/grade (if Federal employment) ___Duties and accomplishments ___Employer's name and address ___Supervisor's name and contact information ___Starting and ending dates of employment (month/day/year) ___Number of hours worked per week ___Salary ___Indicate if we may contact current supervisor/employer ___Other job related information, such as training courses (title & year); skills (e.g., other languages, computer software/hardware, tools, etc.) ___Certificates/licenses (current) ___Honors, awards, and special accomplishments ___A legible copy of college transcripts (if qualifying all or in part on the basis of Education for this position) ___Support documentation for eligibility for special hiring authorities, such as disability, Peace Corps service, etc. AGENCY CONTACT INFO: Jessica Stokely Phone: 202-326-2021 Fax: 000-000-0000 TDD: 202-326-3422 Email: hrmoemployment at ftc.gov Agency Information: Federal Trade Commission 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Room 723 Attn: Human Resources Washington, DC 20580 US Control Number: 351077000 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 9 19:41:04 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:41:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: <5A114E4DF190414C9DEC8CF5D78729BD0BD88E0574@GSD-MBX-RDC06.gsd.doj.gov> <98A98D365DA17347B0FA3158D79B489408FDB5@DPRC-EXCH-P06.JCONMAIL.doj.gov> Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:00 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:25 AM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Office of the Deputy Attorney General Associate Deputy Attorney General /GS-14 - GS-15 Non-reimburseable Detail Opportunity Only Current DOJ Employees Will Be Considered for this Position Announcement: ODAG ATY-1013 Applications must be received by September 19, 2013. Date posted: 09-05-2013 Supervisory Attorney-advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Medical Center Rochester, Minnesota GS-905-14 This position is open until filled, but no later than September 10, 2013. Date posted: 09-05-2013 Trial Attorney, GS-905-15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development, Assistance and Training Resident Legal Advisor for Bangladesh 13-CRM-OPD-077 Applications will be accepted until September 30, 2013. Date posted: 08-29-2013 -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 9 19:42:10 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:42:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Jobs] FW: Please post/forward ACLU [LGLF- 52] Fall 2014 National Security Project Fellowship Opportunity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 11:12 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Please post/forward ACLU [LGLF- 52] Fall 2014 National Security Project Fellowship Opportunity From: hrintern [mailto:hrintern at aclu.org] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 11:47 AM To: Maurer, Patricia Subject: Please post/forward ACLU [LGLF- 52] Fall 2014 National Security Project Fellowship Opportunity September 09, 2013 FALL 2014 FELLOWSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO THIRD-YEAR LAW STUDENTS AND RECENT GRADUATES NATIONAL SECURITY FELLOWSHIP [LGLF-52] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation National Security Project, NY For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The National Security Project of the ACLU's National office in New York City invites applications for the National Security Fellowship, which will last for a two-year period beginning in September 2014. OVERVIEW The National Security Project is part of the ACLU's Center for Democracy, which works to strengthen democratic institutions and values, including the values of government transparency and accountability, and to reinforce the United States' commitment to human rights and the rule of law. The Center for Democracy includes, in addition to the National Security Project, the Human Rights Project and the Project on Speech, Privacy, and Technology. The National Security Project is dedicated to ensuring that U.S. national security policies and practices are consistent with the Constitution, civil liberties, and human rights. The Project believes that our nation's core democratic values are the foundation of its strength and security, and that our government's response to national security concerns must comport with those values. Through its litigation and advocacy strategies, NSP not only responds to specific government measures, but also strives to educate the public and shape the law so that the courts, Congress, and citizenry can serve as an enduring check against abuse. The National Security Project's litigation and advocacy focuses on issues including: targeted killing, unlawful detention, accountability for torture, discrimination, government surveillance, censorship, and secrecy. ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES The National Security Fellow functions as an integral part of the ACLU's National Security Project. Responsibilities will include but are not limited to the following: * Conduct legal and factual research and analysis for pending and potential litigation. * Draft legal memoranda, pleadings, affidavits, motions, and briefs. * Interview witnesses and potential clients. * Participate in discovery and trial practice. * Draft and edit public education and non-litigation advocacy materials. * Provide support to ACLU affiliates. * Help manage summer legal internship program and supervise student interns. * Engage in public speaking and attend meetings and/or conferences as needed. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The Fellow is selected from third-year law students, or recent graduates and will serve for a two-year period starting September 2014. Applicants must possess: * J.D. degree, or anticipated law school graduation by the Spring of 2014. * A demonstrated commitment to public interest law. * Excellent research, writing, and verbal communication skills. * A demonstrated ability to conduct complex legal analysis and fact-finding. * Excellent interpersonal skills and a proven ability to work independently as well as within a team. * The initiative to see projects through to completion and be a self-starter. * Knowledge of civil rights and civil liberties issues related to national security is preferred but not required. * Commitment to the mission and goals of the ACLU. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, two letters of recommendation, a legal writing sample, and a law school transcript via e-mail to HRJobsNSP at aclu.org -reference [LGLF-52 FALL 2014 Fellowship/INCL] in subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to National Security Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: American Civil Liberties Union Foundation [Re: LGLF-52 FALL 2014 Fellowship/INCL] 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. We encourage applicants to send materials as soon as possible. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis until a decision is made. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 9 19:48:33 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:48:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] [Jobs] FW: Please post/forward ACLU [Fall 2014 RJP- LGLF-06-45 Karpatkin Fellowship] Opportunity References: Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:50 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Please post/forward ACLU [Fall 2014 RJP- LGLF-06-45 Karpatkin Fellowship] Opportunity From: hrintern [mailto:hrintern at aclu.org] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:34 AM To: Maurer, Patricia Subject: Please post/forward ACLU [Fall 2014 RJP- LGLF-06-45 Karpatkin Fellowship] Opportunity Please post/forward ACLU Fall 2014 [RJP- LGLF-06-45 Karpatkin Fellowship] Opportunity September 6, 2013 FALL 2014 FELLOWSHIP OPPORTUNITY NOTICE TO THIRD-YEAR LAW STUDENTS AND RECENT GRADUATES MARVIN M. KARPATKIN FELLOWSHIP [LGLF-06/45] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Racial Justice Program, NY For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Racial Justice Program (RJP) of the ACLU National office in New York City invites applications for the Marvin M. Karpatkin Fellowship, beginning in September 2014 for a duration of one year. OVERVIEW The Marvin M. Karpatkin Fellowship was established by the ACLU Board of Directors in memory of Marvin M. Karpatkin, the late General Counsel of the American Civil Liberties Union, who died in January 1975, at the age of 48. Mr. Karpatkin was one of the ACLU's most active attorneys during the 1960s and early 1970s. He left his special mark in the areas of selective service and military law. His interest in those areas grew out of his own strong opposition to the Vietnam War and his desire to help those who, younger than himself, were faced with performing military service in a war they would not support. Racial Justice Program (RJP) attorneys and staff work to challenge racial discrimination and related issues that have a disparate impact on communities of color, particularly in the areas of criminal justice and education. RJP also seeks to provide full access to participation in the economic system regardless of race or ethnicity. In the area of criminal justice, RJP is dedicated to reducing the unwarranted and disproportionate targeting and incarceration of people of color. In the area of education, it seeks to ensure that all children have access to quality education, regardless of race or ethnicity. Specifically, RJP has filed civil challenges to the inadequate provision of indigent criminal and juvenile defense, racial profiling, and disparate educational opportunities. The Program has also campaigned against the racially-disproportionate imposition of incarceration and school discipline and is beginning efforts to counteract the negative effects of discrimination in mortgage lending on communities of color. ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES The Karpatkin Fellow functions as part of the ACLU's Racial Justice Program's litigation team. Responsibilities will include, but are not limited to, the following: * Providing legal research and analysis and develop theories to support new litigation projects. * Drafting pleadings, affidavits, motions, and briefs. * Interviewing witnesses and potential plaintiffs. * Participating in discovery and trial practice. * Providing support and assistance to ACLU affiliates and cooperating attorneys. * Engaging in public speaking and attend meetings and/or conferences as needed. * Supervising student interns. EXPERIENCE & QUALIFICATIONS * J.D. degree, or anticipated graduation by the Spring of 2014. * A demonstrated ability to conduct complex legal analysis and fact-finding. * Excellent research, writing and verbal communication skills. * Self-starter with excellent interpersonal skills. * Proven ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Excellent computer skills including knowledge of Microsoft Office Suite. * Demonstrated commitment to public interest law. * Commitment to the mission and goals of the ACLU. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, resume, two letters of recommendation and at least one legal writing sample by email to hrjobsRJP at aclu.org - reference [LGLF-06 & LGLF-45/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to the Racial Justice Program postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Racial Justice Program RE: [LGLF-06 & LGLF-45/INCL] American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, N.Y. 10004 The application deadline is November 1, 2013. Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this opportunity. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From kd8qiq at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 18:50:32 2013 From: kd8qiq at gmail.com (jeff crouch) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:50:32 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law Message-ID: Hi all, My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't know what exactly there is. any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. thanks -- Skype: magic2127 FB: apdc19 at gmail.com http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq 73 K8TVV Jeff Crouch From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Tue Sep 10 19:42:23 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:42:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> Two quick points: How are your Braille skills? While it is not impossible to practice as an attorney without Braille skills, it is far easier to do the work of our profession with good Braille skills. Many people are attracted to law because of criminal law. That initial fascination usually disappears once you understand the realities of criminal law and also realize that there are many other areas of law which are far more interesting and challenging. I would suggest that you ask your career office at your school to see if they can arrange for you to meet and talk to attorneys who are currently practicing law. I would also suggest that, if possible, during a vacation, you visit your local court house and sit in on a court proceeding or trial to get a feel for what happens in the courtroom, and imagine how you would handle courtroom matters. Regards, RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. Principal Attorney Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: 949-752-0101 F: 949-257-4756 Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of jeff crouch Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:51 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law Hi all, My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't know what exactly there is. any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. thanks -- Skype: magic2127 FB: apdc19 at gmail.com http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq 73 K8TVV Jeff Crouch _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 19:46:34 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:46:34 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> Message-ID: I don't agree that braille skills are especially necessary in legal practice. I suspect that they are more relevant if you go to court a lot. Even there, I question if they are really essential. You should try to intern with a lawyer if you can, to get experience. G On 9/10/13, Russell J. Thomas wrote: > Two quick points: > > How are your Braille skills? While it is not impossible to practice as an > attorney without Braille skills, it is far easier to do the work of our > profession with good Braille skills. > > Many people are attracted to law because of criminal law. That initial > fascination usually disappears once you understand the realities of > criminal > law and also realize that there are many other areas of law which are far > more interesting and challenging. > > I would suggest that you ask your career office at your school to see if > they can arrange for you to meet and talk to attorneys who are currently > practicing law. I would also suggest that, if possible, during a vacation, > you visit your local court house and sit in on a court proceeding or trial > to get a feel for what happens in the courtroom, and imagine how you would > handle courtroom matters. > > > Regards, > RUSSELL J. THOMAS, JR. > Principal Attorney > > Law Office of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > Newport Beach, California 92660 > T: 949-752-0101 > F: 949-257-4756 > > Follow me on Twitter @EmplmntAttorney > > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the > personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above.  This > message > may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is > privileged and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in > error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this > message is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original > message. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of jeff > crouch > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:51 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law > > Hi all, > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade and I > am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the summer > called > criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law for some time, just > don't know exactly what I can do being that I am blind. If I wanted to be a > loyar I would want to be a prossacuting attorney, But at the same time I > want to envestagate crimes, so don't know what exactly there is. > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > thanks > > -- > Skype: magic2127 > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > 73 > K8TVV > Jeff Crouch > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Sep 10 20:10:27 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:10:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. Angie Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 10 20:27:59 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:27:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> Angie: I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury trials I have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or written, was ever offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to suppress, to quash, for discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those cases using Braille? Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. Angie Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 20:32:02 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:02 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: To be clear, I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't use braille, for a moment. I just wanted to make the point that someone should not be put off the profession because they have no braille skills. G On 9/10/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Angie: > > I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury trials I > have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or written, was > ever > offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to suppress, to quash, > for > discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. > > I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those cases > using Braille? > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela > Matney > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law > > I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or not > we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and I cannot > imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in meetings with > clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. > > Angie > > > > > > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment > is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us > immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your > system. Thank you for your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot > be > used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the > Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, > market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the > subject of this communication and any attachments. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 10 20:34:05 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:34:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <026d01ceae65$189dfca0$49d9f5e0$@sbcglobal.net> Amen! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:32 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law To be clear, I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't use braille, for a moment. I just wanted to make the point that someone should not be put off the profession because they have no braille skills. G On 9/10/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Angie: > > I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury > trials I have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or > written, was ever offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to > suppress, to quash, for discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. > > I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those > cases using Braille? > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Angela Matney > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law > > I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or > not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and > I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in > meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. > > Angie > > > > > > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected > by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or > any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in > error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and > delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be > imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice > be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction > or matter that is the subject of this communication and any > attachments. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Sep 10 20:38:32 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:38:32 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438EBD@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Dan: It goes without saying that if you don't have braille, you can't use it. My job involves negotiating, drafting, reviewing and revising numerous transactional documents. I suppose I would find a way to work without refreshable braille, but I am certainly glad I am not required to do so. With respect to your motions, you could certainly proofread those in braille through the use of refreshable braille before filing. I have done this with documents I have prepared on behalf of my colleagues in our litigation section, and I find it helpful. Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:28 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law Angie: I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury trials I have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or written, was ever offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to suppress, to quash, for discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those cases using Braille? Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. Angie Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and any attachments. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Sep 10 20:40:10 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:40:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438ED4@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Agreed. And I would say that the utility of braille should not be underestimated. As with anything else, even if you can do your job without it, you might find that you do your job better with it. Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:32 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law To be clear, I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't use braille, for a moment. I just wanted to make the point that someone should not be put off the profession because they have no braille skills. G On 9/10/13, Daniel McBride wrote: > Angie: > > I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury > trials I have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or > written, was ever offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to > suppress, to quash, for discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. > > I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those > cases using Braille? > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Angela Matney > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law > > I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or > not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and > I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in > meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. > > Angie > > > > > > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected > by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or > any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in > error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and > delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this > communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and > cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be > imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice > be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction > or matter that is the subject of this communication and any > attachments. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 20:45:01 2013 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:45:01 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438ED4@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <008c01ceae5d$df861120$9e923360$@com> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438E5E@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <026c01ceae64$3e422d10$bac68730$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647225438ED4@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: I agree with that Angey. I am not the fastest braille reader in the world but certainly know that there are those who are. I would also say that punctuation is something I have to watch very closely and that I rely on spell checkers etc. for that to an extent. Perhaps braille is especially useful for that. G On 9/10/13, Angela Matney wrote: > Agreed. And I would say that the utility of braille should not be > underestimated. As with anything else, even if you can do your job without > it, you might find that you do your job better with it. > > Best, > > Angie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:32 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law > > To be clear, I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't use braille, for a > moment. I just wanted to make the point that someone should not be put off > the profession because they have no braille skills. > G > > On 9/10/13, Daniel McBride wrote: >> Angie: >> >> I have no Braille skills at all. Through the many criminal jury >> trials I have tried, no evidence, whether physical, photographic or >> written, was ever offered in Braille. Never did I file any motions to >> suppress, to quash, for discovery, in limine, or otherwise in Braille. >> >> I am, therefor, curious how I could proof read anything done in those >> cases using Braille? >> >> Dan McBride >> Fort Worth >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Angela Matney >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:10 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind High School student interested in Law >> >> I suppose the extent to which we use Braille contributes to whether or >> not we believe braille skills are necessary. I rarely go to court, and >> I cannot imagine doing my job without braille. I find it essential in >> meetings with clients and in more complex proofreading tasks. >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected >> by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware >> that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or >> any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in >> error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and >> delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. >> >> Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant >> to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this >> communication and any attachments are not intended to be used, and >> cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be >> imposed under the Internal Revenue Code, nor may any such tax advice >> be used to promote, market or recommend to any person any transaction >> or matter that is the subject of this communication and any >> attachments. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 11 12:20:26 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:20:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Oct. 25 Animals, Disability, and Health Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15573D@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: Do find the below. I do hope you are able to attend. But even if not, do share with your network. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Es2q. 2013-2014 Grand Rounds Facilitated Conversations about the Highest Obtainable Level of Human Health of Older Adults and People with Disabilities Center on Medicine and Law University of Baltimore School of Law 1401 N. Charles Street Baltimore, Md. 21201 Contact: Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M., Senior Advisor, at (410) 241-6745 to provide your RSVP. Light snacks and beverages will be provided In 2013 to 2014, a series of facilitated conversations will explore the connection among animals; disabilities and aging; and human health. Bio Mr. Norman, an attorney licensed in among other jurisdictions Maryland, serves as the Senior Advisor at the Center on Medicine and Law. He is the holder of a Masters in Letters of Law with Graduate Certificate in Healthcare Law and Policy. A recognized leader in the fields of healthcare policy and Alternative Dispute Resolution, he is elevating the mission of the Center through a range of innovative engagement strategies. Program Agenda "Adapt yourself to the things among which your lot has been cast and love sincerely the fellow creatures with which destiny have ordained that you shall live." (Marcus Orelius, Roman Philosopher and Emperor from 161 to 180 C.C.E.) October 25, 2013 at 12 P.M. Round Table 1: The Health Impact and Legal Ramifications of Animals This reception, co-hosted by the Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy, will have an interactive dialogue on the way in which animals affect the health of their human partners. Gary C. Norman, Esq., L.L.M., Senior Advisor at the Center, will set the stage, particularly commenting on the overall impact of animals on the health of their human custodians. Jack Casper, D.V.M., a retired veterinarian and founder of the Maryland State Animal Response Team, will generally discuss the inclusion of animals in emergency preparedness. Allie Philips, Esq., an author, attorney, and advocate, will discuss the need for ensuring that women, who are the recipients of domestic violence, be able to bring their pets to domestic violence shelters. Caroline A. Griffin, Esq., A notable leader of the Maryland legal community, will serve as the Facilitator and Discussant. Winter, 2014 at 12 P.M. Round Table 2: the Importance of Fostering Accessible Consumer and Provider Interactions In light of domestic and international developments in disability law and policy, such as the Affordable Care Act, there is enhanced focus on accessible healthcare encounters and positive outcomes. At this captivating engagement, co-hosted by the Journal, the participants will explore healthcare encounters among Providers and consumers with disabilities. Gary C. Norman, Esq., L.L.M., Senior Advisor at the Center, will provide the perspective of consumers with disabilities, particularly of those who are partnered with assistance dogs. Martin P. Wassermann, M.D. /J.D. will provide the perspective of a Provider. Elaine B. Philips, master practitioner of Alternative Dispute Resolution, will facilitate and guide the conversation. Other facilitated conversations are in the planning process; they may occur in 2014. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Sep 11 14:21:18 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:21:18 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled In-Reply-To: <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A81536F5@MAILHOST.WCL.Local> References: <300.0.15.C0.1CEAD9CFC29EADE.CEFD@me-ss2-192exz.mailengine1.com> <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A81536F5@MAILHOST.WCL.Local> Message-ID: <007401ceaefa$2f035e50$8d0a1af0$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings, if you are in DC, this may be of interest. Otherwise, it will be available on the Web. Best, Scott From: Meredith Jacob [mailto:mjacob at wcl.american.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:14 AM To: Office Of The President; Daniel F. Goldstein; Scott C. LaBarre; Fredric Schroeder; Chris Danielsen Subject: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled Click here to unsubscribe Having trouble viewing this e-mail? View it in your browser Image removed by sender. Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property American University Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice & Intellectual Property Presents The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled September 12, 2013 3:00 – 6:00 p.m., Room 603 reception to follow American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC For Registration, CLE info & Webcast (live and archived): http://www.pijip-impact.org/events/marrakesh/ The Marrakesh Treaty to Facilitate Access to Published Works for Persons Who Are Blind, Visually Impaired, or Otherwise Print Disabled was adopted at a June 2013 Diplomatic Conference convened by the World Intellectual Property Organization. The treaty represents a significant step toward the goal of assuring equal opportunities to access text materials for all persons, without regard to disability. It is also a new departure in the history of international intellectual property law: the first international treaty with the main focus on defining minimum standards for copyright limitations and exceptions, rather than establishing conditions for enhanced proprietary rights. On Thursday, September 12, from 3:00 to 6:00 PM, the Program on Information Justice and the Public Interest at the American University Law School will host the first public forum on the new treaty. Panels will address “The Road to Marrakesh” and “Next Steps.” The distinguished array of panelists includes: Prof. Justin Hughes, who led the U.S. delegation at the Diplomatic Conference; Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation, along with NFB’s treaty negotiator, Scott LaBarre; U.S. delegation member Nancy Weiss. General Counsel of IMLS; Prof. Ruth Okediji, who advised the Africa Group in treaty negotiations; Luis Villaroel, Researcher of Universidad Mayor, who advised Ecuador; consumer advocate James Love of KEI; General Counsel Allan R. Adler of the AAP; Chris Marcich of EMEA (the MPAA’s European arm); Library Copyright Alliance counsel Jonathan Band; Teresa Hackett of Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL); Shira Perlmutter, Chief Policy Officer and Director for International Affairs at the USPTO; Prof. Lateef Mtima of the Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice at Howard Law School; and Prof. Danielle Conway from the University of Hawaii. Prof. Peter Jaszi of PIJIP will moderate. Sign Interpretation will be provided. Other accommodations are available upon request to pijip at wcl.american.edu The archived webcast will be captioned and available on the website one week after the event. A reception will follow the event at 6:00 PM. Also this week at WCL Indigenous Enterprise and Innovations: The Promise and Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway September 11, 2013 4:30 – 6:00 p.m., Room 600 American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC Open to all, no registration required. For more information click here This talk presents the successes and challenges experienced when using private ordering strategies, such as intellectual property licensing, to protect indigenous intangible assets and resources from misappropriation, specifically, and to exercise control over such resources in furtherance of principles of self-determination, generally. Upcoming PIJIP Events September 11, 2013 – Indigenous Enterprise and Innovation: The Promise and the Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway; 4:30 p.m., WCL Room 600 September 26, 2013 – Empirical Study of the Social and Economic Benefits of Copyright Flexibilities Info and Live Webcast October 17, 2013 – Creative Commons United States Launch Party Info November 5, 2013 – Supreme Court Series: Medtronic v. Boston Scientific Corp., Post Argument Discussion Info and Live Webcast November 7, 2013 – 2nd Annual Peter Jaszi Distinguished Lecture on Intellectual Property with Prof. Bernt Hugenholtz Info and Live Webcast November 8, 2013 – Patent + Policy Forum: Current Initiatives for Patent Law Revision Info and Live Webcast November 15, 2013 – 10th Annual IP/Gender: Mapping the Connections - Creativity Outside of Intellectual Property's Domain Info and Live Webcast 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW, Washington DC 20016 http://www.wcl.american.edu/pijip / | pijip at wcl.american.edu Image removed by sender. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD000.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1119 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mikefry79 at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 14:41:55 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:41:55 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Jeff, Law is going through some seismic changes. Twenty years ago a law degree would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that is not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably around $800k. Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to the very best possible law school especially because you have a severe disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a prosecutor's office of your choice. If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a week. That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should have listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like crew, or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work with the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for the Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get you there. It is imperative that you get into the very best possible college. Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual impairment and conquering adversity. If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a good program. I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. Sincerely, Mike On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > Hi all, > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade > and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the > summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law > for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am > blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting > attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't > know what exactly there is. > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > thanks > > -- > Skype: magic2127 > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > 73 > K8TVV > Jeff Crouch > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 11 15:23:56 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:23:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f301ceaf02$ef66cc10$ce346430$@sbcglobal.net> Mike: Amen! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:42 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law Dear Jeff, Law is going through some seismic changes. Twenty years ago a law degree would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that is not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably around $800k. Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to the very best possible law school especially because you have a severe disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a prosecutor's office of your choice. If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a week. That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should have listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like crew, or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work with the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for the Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get you there. It is imperative that you get into the very best possible college. Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual impairment and conquering adversity. If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a good program. I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. Sincerely, Mike On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > Hi all, > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade > and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the > summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law > for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am > blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting > attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't > know what exactly there is. > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > thanks > > -- > Skype: magic2127 > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > 73 > K8TVV > Jeff Crouch > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Wed Sep 11 15:28:12 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:28:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled In-Reply-To: <007401ceaefa$2f035e50$8d0a1af0$@labarrelaw.com> References: <300.0.15.C0.1CEAD9CFC29EADE.CEFD@me-ss2-192exz.mailengine1.com> <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A81536F5@MAILHOST.WCL.Local> <007401ceaefa$2f035e50$8d0a1af0$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: <009001ceaf03$86f5ee30$94e1ca90$@com> How will this treaty be enforced? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. LaBarre Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:21 AM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled Greetings, if you are in DC, this may be of interest. Otherwise, it will be available on the Web. Best, Scott From: Meredith Jacob [mailto:mjacob at wcl.american.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:14 AM To: Office Of The President; Daniel F. Goldstein; Scott C. LaBarre; Fredric Schroeder; Chris Danielsen Subject: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled Click here to unsubscribe Having trouble viewing this e-mail? View it in your browser Image removed by sender. Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property American University Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice & Intellectual Property Presents The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled September 12, 2013 3:00 – 6:00 p.m., Room 603 reception to follow American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC For Registration, CLE info & Webcast (live and archived): http://www.pijip-impact.org/events/marrakesh/ The Marrakesh Treaty to Facilitate Access to Published Works for Persons Who Are Blind, Visually Impaired, or Otherwise Print Disabled was adopted at a June 2013 Diplomatic Conference convened by the World Intellectual Property Organization. The treaty represents a significant step toward the goal of assuring equal opportunities to access text materials for all persons, without regard to disability. It is also a new departure in the history of international intellectual property law: the first international treaty with the main focus on defining minimum standards for copyright limitations and exceptions, rather than establishing conditions for enhanced proprietary rights. On Thursday, September 12, from 3:00 to 6:00 PM, the Program on Information Justice and the Public Interest at the American University Law School will host the first public forum on the new treaty. Panels will address “The Road to Marrakesh” and “Next Steps.” The distinguished array of panelists includes: Prof. Justin Hughes, who led the U.S. delegation at the Diplomatic Conference; Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation, along with NFB’s treaty negotiator, Scott LaBarre; U.S. delegation member Nancy Weiss. General Counsel of IMLS; Prof. Ruth Okediji, who advised the Africa Group in treaty negotiations; Luis Villaroel, Researcher of Universidad Mayor, who advised Ecuador; consumer advocate James Love of KEI; General Counsel Allan R. Adler of the AAP; Chris Marcich of EMEA (the MPAA’s European arm); Library Copyright Alliance counsel Jonathan Band; Teresa Hackett of Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL); Shira Perlmutter, Chief Policy Officer and Director for International Affairs at the USPTO; Prof. Lateef Mtima of the Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice at Howard Law School; and Prof. Danielle Conway from the University of Hawaii. Prof. Peter Jaszi of PIJIP will moderate. Sign Interpretation will be provided. Other accommodations are available upon request to pijip at wcl.american.edu The archived webcast will be captioned and available on the website one week after the event. A reception will follow the event at 6:00 PM. Also this week at WCL Indigenous Enterprise and Innovations: The Promise and Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway September 11, 2013 4:30 – 6:00 p.m., Room 600 American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC Open to all, no registration required. For more information click here This talk presents the successes and challenges experienced when using private ordering strategies, such as intellectual property licensing, to protect indigenous intangible assets and resources from misappropriation, specifically, and to exercise control over such resources in furtherance of principles of self-determination, generally. Upcoming PIJIP Events September 11, 2013 – Indigenous Enterprise and Innovation: The Promise and the Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway; 4:30 p.m., WCL Room 600 September 26, 2013 – Empirical Study of the Social and Economic Benefits of Copyright Flexibilities Info and Live Webcast October 17, 2013 – Creative Commons United States Launch Party Info November 5, 2013 – Supreme Court Series: Medtronic v. Boston Scientific Corp., Post Argument Discussion Info and Live Webcast November 7, 2013 – 2nd Annual Peter Jaszi Distinguished Lecture on Intellectual Property with Prof. Bernt Hugenholtz Info and Live Webcast November 8, 2013 – Patent + Policy Forum: Current Initiatives for Patent Law Revision Info and Live Webcast November 15, 2013 – 10th Annual IP/Gender: Mapping the Connections - Creativity Outside of Intellectual Property's Domain Info and Live Webcast 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW, Washington DC 20016 http://www.wcl.american.edu/pijip / | pijip at wcl.american.edu Image removed by sender. From amatney at hf-law.com Wed Sep 11 15:40:32 2013 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:40:32 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: <00f301ceaf02$ef66cc10$ce346430$@sbcglobal.net> References: <00f301ceaf02$ef66cc10$ce346430$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472254391F3@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> I would qualify the below by stating that starting salaries in Big Law are generally around $160,000. Also, I'm not sure I agree that a 4.0 in an easy major is more valuable than a slightly lower GPA in another major--say, one that is technologically oriented. Also, such a major might lead to more earning potential in the event the original poster decides not to go to law school after all. Angie Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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Twenty years ago a law degree would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that is not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably around $800k. Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to the very best possible law school especially because you have a severe disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a prosecutor's office of your choice. If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a week. That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should have listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like crew, or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work with the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for the Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get you there. It is imperative that you get into the very best possible college. Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual impairment and conquering adversity. If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a good program. I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. Sincerely, Mike On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > Hi all, > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade > and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the > summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law > for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am > blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting > attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't > know what exactly there is. > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > thanks > > -- > Skype: magic2127 > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > 73 > K8TVV > Jeff Crouch > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Sep 11 15:46:02 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:46:02 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled In-Reply-To: <009001ceaf03$86f5ee30$94e1ca90$@com> References: <300.0.15.C0.1CEAD9CFC29EADE.CEFD@me-ss2-192exz.mailengine1.com> <5FBBFB2666E1F04E848D648897C048A81536F5@MAILHOST.WCL.Local> <007401ceaefa$2f035e50$8d0a1af0$@labarrelaw.com> <009001ceaf03$86f5ee30$94e1ca90$@com> Message-ID: <00da01ceaf06$04c384b0$0e4a8e10$@labarrelaw.com> Russ, I assume you mean here in the U.S. First, we must get it ratified. Second, then it would alter, to some extent, our current copyright exception, the so-called Chafee Amendment. Under Chafee and the treaty's provisions, authorized entities, essentially, have the right to take the actions authorized without permission of publishers. If publsihers feel their copyright is being infringed and the treaty's provisions are being abused, then a copyright enforcement action on behalf of the publisher would be in order. None of this is administered by a federal agency. Now, as for other countries, that is, of course, a widely varying situation. Each country would need to adopt the terms of the treaty consistent with its national law. This is a somewhat vague answer. If I can answer it more specifically, please let me know. Best, Scott -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russ Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:28 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled How will this treaty be enforced? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. LaBarre Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:21 AM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: [blindlaw] FW: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled Greetings, if you are in DC, this may be of interest. Otherwise, it will be available on the Web. Best, Scott From: Meredith Jacob [mailto:mjacob at wcl.american.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:14 AM To: Office Of The President; Daniel F. Goldstein; Scott C. LaBarre; Fredric Schroeder; Chris Danielsen Subject: UPDATED: Sept. 12 Roundtable: The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled Click here to unsubscribe Having trouble viewing this e-mail? View it in your browser Image removed by sender. Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property American University Washington College of Law Program on Information Justice & Intellectual Property Presents The 2013 Marrakesh Treaty: Providing Access to Copyrighted Works for the Blind and Print Disabled September 12, 2013 3:00 – 6:00 p.m., Room 603 reception to follow American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC For Registration, CLE info & Webcast (live and archived): http://www.pijip-impact.org/events/marrakesh/ The Marrakesh Treaty to Facilitate Access to Published Works for Persons Who Are Blind, Visually Impaired, or Otherwise Print Disabled was adopted at a June 2013 Diplomatic Conference convened by the World Intellectual Property Organization. The treaty represents a significant step toward the goal of assuring equal opportunities to access text materials for all persons, without regard to disability. It is also a new departure in the history of international intellectual property law: the first international treaty with the main focus on defining minimum standards for copyright limitations and exceptions, rather than establishing conditions for enhanced proprietary rights. On Thursday, September 12, from 3:00 to 6:00 PM, the Program on Information Justice and the Public Interest at the American University Law School will host the first public forum on the new treaty. Panels will address “The Road to Marrakesh” and “Next Steps.” The distinguished array of panelists includes: Prof. Justin Hughes, who led the U.S. delegation at the Diplomatic Conference; Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation, along with NFB’s treaty negotiator, Scott LaBarre; U.S. delegation member Nancy Weiss. General Counsel of IMLS; Prof. Ruth Okediji, who advised the Africa Group in treaty negotiations; Luis Villaroel, Researcher of Universidad Mayor, who advised Ecuador; consumer advocate James Love of KEI; General Counsel Allan R. Adler of the AAP; Chris Marcich of EMEA (the MPAA’s European arm); Library Copyright Alliance counsel Jonathan Band; Teresa Hackett of Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL); Shira Perlmutter, Chief Policy Officer and Director for International Affairs at the USPTO; Prof. Lateef Mtima of the Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice at Howard Law School; and Prof. Danielle Conway from the University of Hawaii. Prof. Peter Jaszi of PIJIP will moderate. Sign Interpretation will be provided. Other accommodations are available upon request to pijip at wcl.american.edu The archived webcast will be captioned and available on the website one week after the event. A reception will follow the event at 6:00 PM. Also this week at WCL Indigenous Enterprise and Innovations: The Promise and Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway September 11, 2013 4:30 – 6:00 p.m., Room 600 American University, Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW Washington DC Open to all, no registration required. For more information click here This talk presents the successes and challenges experienced when using private ordering strategies, such as intellectual property licensing, to protect indigenous intangible assets and resources from misappropriation, specifically, and to exercise control over such resources in furtherance of principles of self-determination, generally. Upcoming PIJIP Events September 11, 2013 – Indigenous Enterprise and Innovation: The Promise and the Peril of Intellectual Property Licensing Discussion with Professor Conway; 4:30 p.m., WCL Room 600 September 26, 2013 – Empirical Study of the Social and Economic Benefits of Copyright Flexibilities Info and Live Webcast October 17, 2013 – Creative Commons United States Launch Party Info November 5, 2013 – Supreme Court Series: Medtronic v. Boston Scientific Corp., Post Argument Discussion Info and Live Webcast November 7, 2013 – 2nd Annual Peter Jaszi Distinguished Lecture on Intellectual Property with Prof. Bernt Hugenholtz Info and Live Webcast November 8, 2013 – Patent + Policy Forum: Current Initiatives for Patent Law Revision Info and Live Webcast November 15, 2013 – 10th Annual IP/Gender: Mapping the Connections - Creativity Outside of Intellectual Property's Domain Info and Live Webcast 4801 Massachusetts Ave NW, Washington DC 20016 http://www.wcl.american.edu/pijip / | pijip at wcl.american.edu Image removed by sender. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Wed Sep 11 16:43:41 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:43:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472254391F3@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> References: <00f301ceaf02$ef66cc10$ce346430$@sbcglobal.net> <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472254391F3@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Message-ID: <5C10DDAF-8062-4C39-8703-28CE3D6F9132@stmarytx.edu> Colleagues, I have read with great interest this topic. While I have my own personal opinions which I am about to express, let me first state that those with different opinions are entitled to such opinions and they also have value. First, I would state vehemently that the use of Braille is a skill that is extremely valuable and dare I say necessary. Speech can not truly take the place of Braille in most situations. While I understand that there are those of us in the blind community who function with speech on a daily basis, well, most of us do, there are challenges for those who choose or can not utilize Braille that are not as prevalent as those of us who utilize braille.. Consider the following passage. I went out in the mourning feeling Mary and went to get the male. I then kneaded to by some bread so I walked to the place where it's four sail. Anything wrong with that passage? sounds wonderful just utilizing speech, spellcheck, and at first pass. To close, I fully recognize that not all of us had a Braille education. God knows I hated Braille as a kid, and did not fully utilize it until I got into law school when I realized that it was so darned useful. The point is that we should encourage braille literacy as much as is possible it can only help, and I have found as a new Attorney I use it for all kinds of things I had not considered. I have two Braille displays, the prices are comeing down, as awell as some books of english spelling, style, correct punctuation usage and so one for me to self edit my documents. Yes I still have a sighted colleague who happens to be a former English teacher proofread my documents for me, but it is exhilarating when he states to me Counsel, I can find no errors in this document. 2. I want to give Jeff hope that even if he does not go to an ivy League undergraduate institution of higher learning nor an top law school, he can still greatly enjoy the practice of law. I did not go to either of these things although St. Mary's University school of Law is a well respected law school. I have my own solo practice, I am make enough money to keep the lights on, I go to court almost every day which is what I want to do, and I am earning the respect of my colleagues and clients. What more can I ask for? I have a friend working for a top law firm having to bill every nine minutes and although they pay her $90,000 per year she feels like she must serve these masters although she hates it. I am not hungry, I am free to structure my day, and I am serving the profession. Again, what else can I ask for. I hope this gives a new prospective on the conversation. Warmest regards, and Jeff hang in there and if you have any questions, please ask. Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law (210) 299-7658 RDITTMAN at ME.COM On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Angela Matney wrote: > I would qualify the below by stating that starting salaries in Big Law are generally around $160,000. Also, I'm not sure I agree that a 4.0 in an easy major is more valuable than a slightly lower GPA in another major--say, one that is technologically oriented. Also, such a major might lead to more earning potential in the event the original poster decides not to go to law school after all. > > Angie > > > > > > > > Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal > privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If > you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by > returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for > your cooperation. > > Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant > to Treasury Department Circular 230, tax advice contained in this communication > and any attachments are not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the > purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code, nor may any such tax advice be used to promote, market or recommend to any > person any transaction or matter that is the subject of this communication and > any attachments. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:24 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law > > Mike: > > Amen! > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Fry > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:42 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law > > Dear Jeff, > > Law is going through some seismic changes. Twenty years ago a law degree > would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that is > not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for > less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five > attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. > It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A > while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. > Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about > $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an > elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably around > $800k. > > Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to the > very best possible law school especially because you have a severe > disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject > criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite > law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a > prosecutor's office of your choice. > > If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to > earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a week. > That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should have > listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like crew, > or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation > courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other > accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work with > the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for the > Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. > Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do > whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get you there. > It is imperative that you get into the very best possible college. > > Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. > Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on > every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio > books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship > like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually > impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a > very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual > impairment and conquering adversity. > > If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the > Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a > good program. > > I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. > > Sincerely, > > > > Mike > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > >> Hi all, >> My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade >> and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the >> summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law >> for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am >> blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting >> attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't >> know what exactly there is. >> >> any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> Skype: magic2127 >> FB: apdc19 at gmail.com >> http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq >> 73 >> K8TVV >> Jeff Crouch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmai >> l.com >> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40hf-law.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 11 17:15:48 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:15:48 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Reply On Post From Mike Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E155A5C@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: This day of rememberence is not only sad for those who are survivors or for those who lost beloved, my heart poors out for you; it may, as years past, and as for many, memories fade, be an opportunity in noting the human spirit and even how animals can partner with their human custodians, such as a guide dog hero showed leadership in the hurley and burley of great adversity that day. I do agree with the comments of Mike. As has sparked a renewed conversation these years hence, this day should also remind us of the sentiments of Post Master General and Grand Master, Ben Franklin, that liberty and security must be in healthy proportion. Sincerely, Gary All, While this is a day of rememberance, it also is a day we should use to think about lessons that came out of 9-11. I think the teamwork, trust, and unity we all experienced right after that day are things we should strive to regain and make a more tangible part of our lives. We sure all have a lot to learn from the unconditional love our guide dogs show us. Whether or not you have a guide dog, be just a little more loving today and see if you can keep it going after 9-11. Joy and love to you all, Mike Hingson and Africa From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Wed Sep 11 20:02:13 2013 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:02:13 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law References: <00f301ceaf02$ef66cc10$ce346430$@sbcglobal.net><20AA0861082775448814F89F818F6472254391F3@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> <5C10DDAF-8062-4C39-8703-28CE3D6F9132@stmarytx.edu> Message-ID: <8FFB3B3099144B84828BDDF895756730@victory2> Mr. Dittman, you must be a great mind reader Msmile>!! You expressed my thoughts and sentimental feelings far better than I would have done. I never heard of Occidental College in California until President barack Obama ran for and won the elections! A college in an obscure corner somewhere in this great country of ours could jolly well put a student on the path to success without seeking to have its name enshrined in gold and diamonds. It just does its job! President Obama first went to Occidental before his royal oats were spread far and wide. I am certain that Occidental did its best to prepare him for all other challenges he met with along the way. I am a proud graduate of Indiana University Bloomington, Indiana! You hardly hear its name except in the days of Bobby Knight, the college's greatest basketball coach ever. Take basketball out of the picture and you can drive through Bloomington and forget that you saw the IU sign! Founded in 1820, it's the biggest thing in all of Bloomington and could have swallowed the entire town. Yes, IU produced a President for the West African country called Liberia, just as University of Denver produced Secretary of State, Ms. Condolisa Rice for the Bush Administration. On Braille, I dare say that I would have never gained access to any formal education without it. Braille opened to me a world I never thought possible. If I could, I'd ask that my fingers be placed on Braille dots as I lay in my casket ready for the soon-to-be forgotten bottomless pit. Granted I won't force anyone to learn it, but I think that if the opportunity to do so presents itself, it should be explored. To the young man still in high school desiring to become a prosecutor, permit me to say to you what my teacher, Mrs. Pamela Field, used to tell me back in 1973: "The sky CANNOT LIMIT YOU unless you give it a chance to do so." In essence, hold on to your dreams and cling to the hope it brings you! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 20:04:25 2013 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:04:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004d01ceaf2a$1df7a820$59e6f860$@gmail.com> Whoa, that doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun. I say work really hard at the important things, GPA and standardized test scores. Whether you need a tutor for any of that is up to you. That's not necessarily the best way for everyone, and not something everyone can afford. The rest of your credentials should be based on what you are interested in, especially while you're in high school. I know plenty of people who didn't decide to apply to law school until just before they applied, and as long as they had worked hard and been diligent in what they did with their high school and college years, they were fine. But yes, I would shoot for the best school possible given the legal market. You don't necessarily have to go top 14, as someone suggested. But aim high. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Fry Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:42 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law Dear Jeff, Law is going through some seismic changes. Twenty years ago a law degree would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that is not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably around $800k. Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to the very best possible law school especially because you have a severe disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a prosecutor's office of your choice. If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a week. That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should have listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like crew, or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work with the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for the Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get you there. It is imperative that you get into the very best possible college. Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual impairment and conquering adversity. If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a good program. I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. Sincerely, Mike On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > Hi all, > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade > and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the > summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law > for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am > blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting > attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't > know what exactly there is. > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > thanks > > -- > Skype: magic2127 > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > 73 > K8TVV > Jeff Crouch > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m From mikefry79 at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 21:58:29 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:58:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law In-Reply-To: <004d01ceaf2a$1df7a820$59e6f860$@gmail.com> References: <004d01ceaf2a$1df7a820$59e6f860$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Jeff and everyone else, For what it is worth, I strongly agree with those championing the virtues of braille. There are many compelling and persuasive reasons to be excellent at reading and writing braille. Moreover, I agree with those that write that it is not necessary to attend a prestigious college and law school in order to be a happy and successful attorney. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Nevertheless, it is undeniable that the legal profession is particularly snooty about academic pedigree. My advice was intended for a young high school student. Admittedly, it may have prescribed an unnecessarily ambitious course. I didn't mean to imply you should abandon your desire to be a prosecutor, Jeff. Shoot for the stars to reach the moon, is an apt adage that puts my advice in perspective. Another piece of important advice. Be very connected to the visually impaired community. Form many horizontal relationships with other visually impaired people. Participate in NFB events and other such events. This will be immensely beneficial to you both personally and professionally. Sincerely, Mike On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Sy Hoekstra wrote: > Whoa, that doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun. > > I say work really hard at the important things, GPA and standardized test > scores. Whether you need a tutor for any of that is up to you. That's not > necessarily the best way for everyone, and not something everyone can > afford. The rest of your credentials should be based on what you are > interested in, especially while you're in high school. I know plenty of > people who didn't decide to apply to law school until just before they > applied, and as long as they had worked hard and been diligent in what they > did with their high school and college years, they were fine. > > But yes, I would shoot for the best school possible given the legal market. > You don't necessarily have to go top 14, as someone suggested. But aim > high. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael > Fry > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:42 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind HighSchool student intrested in Law > > Dear Jeff, > > Law is going through some seismic changes. Twenty years ago a law degree > would likely lead to a rewarding career and a good salary. Nowadays that > is not necessarily the case. There is fierce competition among lawyers for > less work. Modern technology has enabled one lawyer to do the work of five > attorneys in the past. Couple that with a very large supply of lawyers. > It adds up to significant downward pressure on the earnings of lawyers. A > while ago, I heard a statistic that the average attorney earns about $60k. > Government attorneys earn about $100k and Federal attorneys earn about > $150k. Federal attorney positions are highly competitive. There is an > elite cadre of attorneys that work in "Big Law." They earn probably > around $800k. > > Given this highly competitive landscape, it is imperative that you go to > the very best possible law school especially because you have a severe > disability. Law, like other advanced liberal arts degree, uses subject > criteria to differentiate between members of the field. Going to an elite > law school will greatly increase your chances of getting hired by a > prosecutor's office of your choice. > > If you want to be an attorney, here's what you should do. Do your best to > earn the very highest GPA possible. Listen to one non-fiction book a > week. That's 52 books a year. By the end of your high school you should > have listened to about 150 non-fiction books. Do some kind of sport like > crew, or, jog 5 miles a day on the tread mill. Do two SAT/ACT preparation > courses. Get at least double time on the SAT/ACT along with your other > accommodations. Have your parents or the school get you a tutor. Work > with the tutor every day for all classes. Volunteer at the Lighthouse for > the Blind or some such thing. Go talk to your career counselor right now. > Tell her you want to go to an Ivy League school. Tell her you'll do > whatever it takes and that with your effort its her job to get > you there. It is imperative that you get into the very best possible > college. > > Once there pick an easy major like History or English. Get a 4.0 gpa. > Work with a tutor through the disability resource center for every class on > every assignment. Continue listening veraciously to non-fiction audio > books. After your second year apply for and get a prestigious scholarship > like Roads or Fulbright or at least something specific for a visually > impaired person. After that, do two review courses for the LSAT. Get a > very good score. Apply to the top 15 law schools. Emphasize your visual > impairment and conquering adversity. > > If you do these things, I think you'll be set. Alternatively, consider the > Randolph-Shepard program. The more I think about it, that sounds like a > good program. > > I hope this was helpful and inspiring to you. > > Sincerely, > > > > Mike > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, jeff crouch wrote: > > > Hi all, > > My name is Jeff Crouch, I am a blind highschool student in 10th grade > > and I am interested in law. I am wanting to take a course during the > > summer called criminal envestagations. I have ben interested in law > > for some time, just don't know exactly what I can do being that I am > > blind. If I wanted to be a loyar I would want to be a prossacuting > > attorney, But at the same time I want to envestagate crimes, so don't > > know what exactly there is. > > > > any feedback would be welcome, feel free to email me off list as well. > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > Skype: magic2127 > > FB: apdc19 at gmail.com > > http://www.twitter.com/kd8qiq > > 73 > > K8TVV > > Jeff Crouch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 12 13:32:59 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:32:59 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [News from ADA-Ohio] webinar series re emergency management - inclusion of pwd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E155E14@pl-emsmb12> From: ada-ohio-bounce at mailman.listserve.com [mailto:ada-ohio-bounce at mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of adaohio at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:29 AM To: ada-ohio at listserve.com Subject: [News from ADA-Ohio] webinar series re emergency management - inclusion of pwd The ADA National Network is pleased to announce the next session in the “Emergency Management and Preparedness-Inclusion of Persons with Disabilities Webinar Series”. Produced by the Pacific ADA Center and supported by the Great Lakes ADA Center. Often one of the most difficult issues in a coming emergency or disaster is the evacuation and transportation of people with disabilities. This presentation will discuss the access and functional needs issues that must be considered by individuals, jurisdictions, emergency managers, and transportation planners in planning evacuation and transportation in emergencies. Gap analysis tools will be shared and a review of resources provided. Date: September 26, 2013 Title: Evacuation and Transportation in Emergencies for People with Disabilities Time: 2pm-3:30pm ET (calculate the start time based on the time zone where you reside) Presenter: Richard Devylder, Chief, Office for Access and Functional Needs in the California Governor’s Office Registration: Free on-line at www.adaconferences.org/Emergency These 90 minute webinars are delivered using the Blackboard Collaborate Web Conferencing System V12.5 and all sessions will be closed captioned. Access via mobile devices is available on iPhone, iPad, Android devices and Kindle HD by downloading the free Blackboard Collaborate App at iTunes, Google Play or Amazon. The previous sessions in this free series were recorded and can be reviewed at www.adaconferences.org/Emergency/Archives Questions regarding the content of this program should be directed to Lewis Kraus at deputy at adapacific.org Questions regarding the technology used for this program should be directed to info at adaconferences.org or by calling 877-232-1990 (V/TTY) From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 12 13:57:20 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:57:20 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: 2013 GDB Reunion Program! In-Reply-To: <898F10709188EE45BCD6D5320045C7E308C4066711@GDBEXCH01.Corp.guidedogs.com> References: <898F10709188EE45BCD6D5320045C7E308C4066711@GDBEXCH01.Corp.guidedogs.com> Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E155E95@pl-emsmb12> >-----Original Message----- >From: Theresa Stern [mailto:tstern at guidedogs.com] >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:15 PM >Subject: 2013 GDB Reunion Program! > >Dear Reunion Participants, > >The 2013 GDB Alumni Reunion is right around the corner! The Reunion >Committee has done an excellent job putting together a fabulous program >for everyone! I have pasted the program below for your reference. Please >read it carefully and be sure to note that if you want to participate in a >campus tour you will need to reserve a spot so that we have enough docents >on hand to accommodate everyone. > >Below the program you will find a couple of announcements from GDB grads >who are attending the reunion and are bringing some products you may be >interested in purchasing, along with the GDB Gift Shop Catalogue. Happy >Shopping! > >Who's hungry? Well you will be on Saturday night so I need you to take a >look at the entre options below and get back to me with your preference by >Friday, September 27th. Entre choices are: > >1. Chicken Option: Chicken Marsala, with Tomato, Mushrooms, Garlic >and Marsala Wine >2. Beef Option: Rosemary Roasted Tenderloin of Beef with >Caramelized Onions and Mushrooms >3. Vegetarian Option: Polenta Pie, layered with Caramelized Onions, >Grilled Eggplant, Roasted Peppers, Garlic, Ricotta, Mozzarella and Parmesan >Cheeses with a Roasted Tomato Sauce > >I am truly looking forward to spending some time with each of you as we >celebrate "Harnessing Health and Happiness" together! > > > > > > > >Guide Dogs for the Blind Alumni Association > >Alumni Reunion 2013 > >"Harnessing Health and Happiness" > >October 3 - 6, 2013 > > > >Four Points by Sheraton > >1010 Northgate Dr. > >San Rafael, CA 94903 > >415-479-8800 > > > >Welcome from Becky Andrews, 2013-2014 Alumni Association Board Chair > > > >On behalf of the GDB Alumni Association, WELCOME! We are so excited you >have joined us for our 2013 Reunion: Harnessing Health and Happiness! We >hope you have a wonderful time connecting with old friends, meeting new >friends and enjoying the activities we have scheduled both for you and your >dog! There are many options for you to enjoy during your stay. > > > >Please join me in thanking Theresa Stern, Director of Alumni and Outreach >Services, and the members of our Special Events Committee for planning this >Reunion: Melissa Hudson, Special Events Chair, Samantha Adams, Judy >Matthews, and Michelle Miller. When we started planning it over a year ago, >it seemed so far away. The new student residence was still under >construction. It's exciting that along with many fun activities and >informative sessions, we will have the opportunity to tour the beautiful >Student Residence Center! > > > >I am looking forward to sharing this time together with all of you. I wish >health and happiness for each of you and your Guides. > > > >Enjoy, > > > > > >Becky Andrews & Cricket > >Chair Alumni Association Board of Directors > > > > > >Transportation > >The Four Points Sheraton is located at 1010 Northgate Dr., San Rafael CA >94903, 415-479-8800. > > > >Below you will find public transportation options for getting to the hotel >from the local airports. > >* San Francisco Airport - Marin Airporter (www.marinairporter.com > , 415-461-4222) - this bus leaves SFO on >the baggage claim level every 30 minutes and will drop you off in downtown >San Rafael at the transit center. The cost is $20 per person, children under 12 >are free. The ride takes about an hour depending on traffic. No reservations >are necessary; they accept cash or travelers checks, no credit cards. From the >transit center in San Rafael, you can catch a cab to the hotel, about a five to >ten minute drive. The cost will be about $12. >* Oakland Airport - Sonoma Airport Express >(www.airportexpressinc.com ,707-837- >8700) - this bus boards at section 4D "scheduled busses", on the center >island outside baggage claim at OAK and leaves every two hours starting at >5:15am and ending at 9:30pm. It will drop you off at the San Rafael Transit >Center. Cost is $26 for adults, $24 for seniors and students between 13 and >21, and free for youth under 12. The ride takes about an hour. See above for >instructions from the Transit Center to the Four Points Hotel. > > > >* Door to door type shuttles are also available by reservation. > > * Marin Door to Door - www.marindoortodoor.com > 415-457-2717 > > * For SFO - $40 for the first person, $12 for others > * For OAK - $50 for the first person, $12 for others > * $3 discount if booked online > > * Taxi Marin - www.marinshuttle.com > 415-970-2434 > > * For SFO or OAK - $80 flat rate, they have vans that fit >up to 9 passengers. > >The above door to door services also serve the Amtrak Stations, please >contact them directly for fare information. > >If you have service through a para-transit agency, you can also use the para- >transit agency here in Marin, Whistlestop Wheels. For more information >please call 415- 454-0964 > >Need help with any of your travel arrangements? Call Andi at Dimensions in >Travel at 800-828-2962! > > > > > > > > > > > >Things to Remember... > > > >Dress: > >October in Marin County is often the nicest time of year with temperatures >in the 70s and possibly 80s. However temperatures can vary greatly during >the day, so plan to wear layers. Our Awards Dinner on Saturday night will be >on campus so dress is casual. Remember to bring a jacket with you in case it >gets chilly. If you are adventurous and plan to walk to campus from the >hotel, then bring comfy walking shoes! The hotel has a lovely swimming >pool, so you may want to throw in a suit so you can take a dip! > > > >Dogs: > >GDB will not be able to provide dog food for your pups while you are here, so >please remember to bring enough food for your stay, any meds, and a bowl >for feeding. > > > >Technology: > >If you have a nifty new piece of technology that you would like to share with >others, please bring it along - we will have plenty of time to trade tech tips! > > > >Books / Items for Sale: > >If you have a book you have written, or other small items that you would like >to make available for purchase during the reunion, please contact Theresa >Stern at tstern at guidedogs.com and we >will try to accommodate you. > > > >Gift Shop Information > >For those of you who can't miss an opportunity to shop, you are in luck! The >GDB Gift Shop will be open on Friday, October 4th, from 9 AM - 4 PM, and on >Saturday, October 5th, from 10:30 AM - 4 PM. > >To help you make your shopping experience as convenient as possible, the >catalog is also included at the end of this program, so if you wish to pre-shop, >you can choose your items, call in your order and it will be ready for you >when you come by the Gift Shop on Saturday. You can also shop at >www.guidedogs.com/store and select >"store pickup" as your method of delivery so you can pick up your order at >the gift shop while on Campus. To use your one time only online discount, >simply type in ALUMNI under the discount code. > > > >Campus Tours - If you would like to check out our beautiful San Rafael >Campus, we invite you to register for one of our tours. Tours are offered at >10:00 AM and 2:00 PM on Friday, Oct 4th. We can shuttle you from the hotel >to campus and back if you wish. To ensure that we have enough docents on >hand, please register for your tour by September 25th. You can register by >contacting Theresa Stern at tstern at guidedogs.com > or 800 295-4050 x4171. Please note that our >dinner will be held in the New Student Residence on Saturday night and you >will be able to check out the new building during your visit that evening. > > > > > > >Massage > >For Dogs - Massage can help keep your Guide Dog relaxed and focused >despite hectic conditions. Even dogs accustomed to a busy life can find the >frantic pace, crowds of other dogs, irregular schedules, complicated routes >and tired and distracted handlers a bit stressful. Why not relieve that tension >with a restorative massage and help make this time as fun for your dog as it is >for you? Carla Campbell is a Professional Canine and Equine Bodyworker. >Ten to fifteen minute relaxation and comfort massages are available for dogs >for $20 on a first-come, first-massaged basis during designated hours >throughout the weekend, and longer (45 minute) therapeutic massages can >be arranged outside of these hours any day Friday through Sunday for $45 per >session. > > > >To check on availability and make appointments, please call (650) 678-0884. >Carla looks forward to helping your dog help you! > > > >For You - Why should Fido have all the fun? Jeannie Martin is a Certified >Massage Therapist specializing in Deep Tissue, Orthopedic and Sports >Massage, and will be on-hand to offer you a relaxing and restorative >experience. Ten to fifteen minute massages are available for $20 on a first >come first massaged basis. Longer sessions can be booked by contacting >Jeannie at 707-695-6971. > > > >Scavenger Hunt! > >Looking for a little extra fun? Participate in the GDB Harness to happiness >Scavenger hunt! The hunt will involve teams of no more than 4 individuals, >each with a list of tasks the team members need to accomplish during a 2 day >time period. Details will be provided at registration. > >The primary goal is to find things that lead you to a huge win and a ton of >competitive fun! > > > > > > > > >Guide Dogs for the Blind Alumni Association > > > >Alumni Reunion 2013 > > > >"Harnessing Health and Happiness" > > > >San Rafael, CA > > > >Schedule of Activities > > > >Thursday, October 3rd > >10:00 AM - 8:00 pm - Guest Registration / Hotel Orientation - Four Points >Sheraton, Main Lobby > > > >12:00 PM - 4:00 PM - Kayaking Adventure on the San Francisco bay, provided >by Dimensions in Travel. Doggie day care will be available while you explore >the bay! Preregistration and an additional fee apply. Meet your group in the >Hotel Lobby. > > > >7:00 PM - 10:00 PM - Hospitality Suite Open (Room 150) > > > >Friday, October 4th > >9:00 AM - 4:00 PM - Gift Shop Open (GDB Campus Admin Bldg.) > > > >9:15 AM - 2:15 PM - Wine Tasting Tour and Picnic, provided by Dimensions in >Travel. Preregistration and an additional fee apply. Meet your group in the >hotel lobby. > > > >9:30 AM - 11:00 AM - Tour of GDB Campus - Preregister - Meet in hotel >lobby. > > > >10:00 AM - 5:45 PM - Guest Registration / Hotel Orientation - Four Points >Sheraton, Main Lobby > > > >10:00 AM - 5:00 PM - Pampering paws and People! Enjoy a relaxation and >comfort massage for your Dog with Carla Campbell, or treat yourself to a >massage with Jeannie Martin. Walk-in massages provided for $20 for a >fifteen minute session. Contact Carla / Jeannie if you prefer a longer >experience. (Napa 1&2) > > > >12:00 PM - 3:00 PM - Hospitality Suite Open (Room 150) > > > >1:00 PM - 4:00 PM - Visit with Vet Techs! Bring your Guide by for a nail trim, >ear cleaning or just a good once over by one of our amazing GDB Vet Techs! >(Napa 1&2) > > > >1:30 PM - 3:00 PM - Tour of GDB Campus - Preregister - Meet in hotel lobby. > > > >3:00 PM - 4:00 PM - Traversing Transitions - Meet with GDB Counseling >Specialist, Kim Samco and fellow GDB Alumni to discuss positive ways >through the transition of retiring your Guide. (Hospitality Suite, Room 150) > > > >4:15 PM - 5:30 PM - Training Update / Ask the Instructor - Having a question >about your dog's behavior? Want to know what you can do to solve that >tricky guide-work challenge? Join Training and Support Center Staff for a >good old fashioned Q&A. You will also get to here what's new and exciting >from the Training Department. (Napa 1&2) > > > >5:45 PM - 7:00 PM - Welcome Reception - Join us poolside while we relax to >the soft tropical sounds of Robert Gordon and his Ukulele. Enjoy some tasty >treats and a glass of wine. (Hotel Pool Area) > > > >Dinner on your own... > > > >7:30 PM - 10:00 PM - Hospitality Suite Open (Room 150) > > > > > > >Saturday, October 5th > > > >7:00 AM - 8:30 AM - Buffet Breakfast - (Marin I & II) > > > >8:30 AM - 9:30 AM - General Session - (Marin I & II) > >* Welcome from Theresa Stern, Director Alumni and Outreach Services >and Becky Andrews, Alumni Association Board Chair >* Welcome from GDB Board Chair, George Kerscher >* Introductions >* Keynote Address - Kim Samco, GDB Counseling Specialist > > > >9:45 AM - 10:45 AM - Breakout session 1 - Choose from the following: > >A) "Pamper Your Pooch", Doggie Massage Techniques Workshop - Carla >Campbell, EBW ESMT, Professional Canine and Equine Bodyworker (Napa 1) > >B) "Bodies in Motion", Techniques for keeping your body feeling fabulous >while you are out and about with your guide - Jeannie Martin, Certified >Massage Therapist (Marin II) > >C) "Even Labs Go Through the Golden Years", Caring for the special needs of >our aging Guides - Jill Johnson, RVT (Marin 1) > > > >11:00 AM - 12:00 PM - Breakout session 2 (see above for session options) > > > >Lunch on your own / If you have ordered a box lunch you can pick it up in the >foyer outside of Marin I & II, and create your own picnic anywhere you >choose. Otherwise, check out the numerous dining selections located down >the hill at the Northgate Mall. > > > >1:00 PM - 4:00 PM - Gift Shop Open - Shop 'til You Drop at our Gift shop >located in the Administration Building on the San Rafael Campus. > > > >2:00 PM - 3:00 PM - Graduation Ceremony - We invite you to enjoy the >graduation of our newest class! The ceremony will be held on the lawn in >front of our New Student Residence. Bring tissues! > > > >5:00 PM - 5:45 PM - Make your way from the hotel to the GDB San Rafael >Campus. If you need a ride, you can catch the shuttle bus right outside the >hotel main lobby. > > > >5:30 PM - Doors to the Assembly Room in the New Student Residence open >for dinner seating. > > > >6:00 PM - 8:00 PM - 2013 GDB Alumni Association Awards Banquet - > >Morgan Watkins, Emcee > >Trevor Thomas, Keynote Speaker > > > >8:00 PM - 9:00 PM - Catch your shuttle bus back to the hotel, meet at the top >of campus. > > > >8:30 PM - 10:30 PM - Hospitality Suite Open / Turn in your Scavenger Hunt >Goodies for Judging! (Room 150) > > > > > >Sunday, October 6th > >7:30 AM - 9:00 AM - Buffet Breakfast - (Marin I & 2I) > > > >9:00 AM - 10:00 AM - Closing Presentation by Cassie Marks, long time Puppy >Raiser, and Clark Roberts, GDB Graduate: How raising a puppy and working >with a Guide have enabled us to "Harness Health and Happiness". (Marin I & >II) > > > >10:00 AM - 1:30 PM - Tour of the world famous San Rafael Farmer's Market >arranged by Dimensions in Travel. Preregistration applies. Meet your group >in the hotel lobby. > > > > >Speaker / Entertainer Bios > > > >Carla Campbell, CBT EBW ESMT - Carla has been a professional Canine and >Equine Body Worker for thirteen years. She has completed more than 1,200 >hours of specialized training in canine and equine anatomy, bio-mechanics, >gait analysis, exercise physiology and massage techniques. She lives in >Menlo Park, and works up and down the San Francisco Peninsula and at dog >shows and events around the country. > > > >Over the years, in addition to working with elderly pets, dogs recovering >from injury or surgery, top show dogs, and dogs who compete in canine >sports such as Agility and Obedience Trials, she has had the opportunity to >massage more than 200 guide dogs at national blindness conventions. These >have been some of the most rewarding experiences of her career, and she >considers it a privilege to have been a part of helping so many guides remain >relaxed, comfortable and focused under unusual and challenging working >conditions. > >Carla has also been a guide dog handler for 30 years, and is currently working >with her third dog, Justin, a Golden Retriever from The Seeing Eye. > >Carla can be reached at campbell at well.com >or by phone at (650) 322-4255 > >http://www.quadrussage.com > > > >Jeannie Martin - Jeannie has been a massage therapist since the year 2000. >Her certification and training was through Western Institute of Science and >Health, where she graduated first of her class. She received certification in >Swedish, Prenatal, chair Massage, manual lymphatic drainage and advanced >certification in deep tissue, Orthopedic and sports massage. This education >included extensive training in physiology and kinesiology. In post graduate >years, she has followed her passion for the orthopedic work and is currently >studying advance clinical work through James Waslaski's Center of Pain >Management. Recently, she was elected as the president of the Redwood >Empire unit of the American Massage Therapy Association. This organization >is currently creating the first AMTA sponsored sports massage therapy team >in Northern California. Since her training is concerned with the medical >aspects of massage, her goal is to provide her clients with a treatment that is >healing, relaxing and beneficial to achieving more complete physical fitness. >Her office is located in Body Kinetics health club Novato. Jeannie can be >reached at jeannieleemartin at comcast.net > or by phone at 707-695-6971 and >415-895-5965. > > > >Robert Gordon- Robert is a prominent entertainment attorney working in >Marin County. He is also an accomplished musician and story teller. > > > >Jill Johnson, RVT - Jill initially received her BA from Claremont McKenna >College and spent 16 years in the corporate world until deciding she wanted >a more enriching career. So, she went back to school and got an AS from >Foothill College and became a Registered Veterinary Technician in 2005. Jill >spent one year working at a shelter, then came to Guide Dogs for the Blind, >San Rafael vet clinic during the last quarter of school for an internship. That >was nearly eight years ago, and lucky for us, she never left! Her interests >include senior and geriatric care, pain management and colony health. > >In addition to her work at GDB, Jill has volunteered at many different >organizations including a wildlife rehab center, spay/neuter clinics, and >animal shelters. She has an 11.5 year-old rescue yellow lab, Miss Fancy Pants, >a 3 year-old black lab career change, Chief, a 2 year-old rescue cat, Triscuit, >and a husband whom she is still working on training (he's almost to phase 7!). >When not at GDB or pet sitting, she enjoys reading, dancing ballet and >spending time in Lake Tahoe with the dogs. Her friends and coworkers say Jill >is incredibly hard working, and brings a special joy and love of life to her >work and everyone appreciates the smiles she brings to an otherwise very >serious business. > > > >G. Morgan Watkins - For many years, Morgan Watkins has served on the >Guide Dogs for the Blind Board of Directors, and is an active volunteer and >public speaker for Guide Dogs for the Blind. He retired in 2008 from a 30-year >career with the University of Texas at Austin. He and his wife, DD, have one >son, Richard. Morgan has enjoyed traveling safely with three Golden >Retriever Guide Dogs, Fantom, Will, and Grandon. > > > >Trevor Thomas - After losing his sight at the age of 35 to a rare eye disease, >Trevor Thomas decided to turn his own disability into a position of advocacy >and strength. He pursues his passion of climbing some of the world's tallest >peaks, and continues to rock climb, participate in long-distance hiking, and >adventure races. > > > >An accomplished long distance hiker, Trevor became the first blind person in >history to complete an unassisted, solo end-to-end thru-hike of the entire >2,175 mile Appalachian Trail (AT) in 2008. > >In 2009, he reached the summit of Mount Mitchell, the tallest peak on the >East Coast, and Long's Peak in Colorado. In 2010, he completed the 2,654 mile >Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) with members of his team, Team FarSight. He >climbed Mount Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous U.S, and in >doing so became the first blind person to stand on top. Today he shares his >many adventures with his female Black Lab Guide Dog, Tennille. > > > >Clark Roberts - At age 24, Clark Roberts lost his site to Retinitis Pigmentosa. >He discovered that when life hits you hard, you have to learn how to move >through the pain, find your potential and live life to its fullest! > > > >Clark now spends his time sharing a message of hope and encouragement >with people of all ages through "Ultimate Vision", a non-profit corporation. >Clark has spoken to thousands of people, teaching awareness and diversity >education. His goal is that every person learn to embrace their potential by >finding the gifts and abilities that each of them have. Through this they learn >how to overcome the challenges that life can bring, celebrate their >differences, and live a life that is full and rewarding. > > > >Clark is married with 2 children, enjoys writing, is an outdoor and sports >enthusiast, and loves to downhill ski, tandem cycle, water ski, swim and >hike. > > > > > > > > >Thank You to Our Generous Sponsors! > > > >Ann Taylor > > > >Marmot > > > >Ahnu > > > >Panera > > > >Noah's Bagels > > > >GuideLights and Gadgets > > > >Betsy Laflamme - Exquisitely, Personalized Nametag Collars > > > >Nino Sonnenberg > > > >Jo Lowe - Puppy Luv - "Capturing your Pups Spirit in Oil Paints" > > > > > >Special Thanks to our Reunion Committee > > > >Melissa Hudson, Chair > >Samantha Adams > >Becky Andrews > >Jo Hughes > >Judy Mathews > >Michelle Miller > > > >We wish to express our sincere gratitude to all the Volunteers and GDB Staff >members who pitched in to make this event possible!!! > > > > >Alumni Association Board of Directors > > > >Officers > >Becky Andrews / Cricket > >Bountiful, UT > >Board Chair > >801/259-3883 (Mobile) > >bandrews at guidedogs.com > > > >Terry Christensen / Zane > >Bensalem, PA > >Vice-Chair > >(267) 568- 2195 (Mobile) > >tchristensen at guidedogs.com > >Michelle Miller / Tango > >Alexandria, VA 22314 > >Secretary > >703-.664-0369 (Home) > >mmiller at guidedogs.com > > > >MEMBERS AT LARGE > > > >Samantha Adams / Lotto > >Gold River, CA 95670 > >916-903-7065 > >sadams at guidedogs.com > > > >Leanne Bremner > >Toronto, ON > >416- 921-8984 > >lbremner at guidedogs.com > > > >Melanie Brunson / Sparta > >Vienna, VA > >703/ 307-6478 (Mobile) > >mbrunson at guidedogs.com > > > >Maile George > >Concord, CA > > 925-381-7899 > >mgeorge at guidedogs.com > > > >Melissa Hudson / Zorro > >Los Angeles, CA > >(626) 429-6883 (Mobile) > >mhudson at guidedogs.com > > > > > >Gary Norman / Pilot > >Baltimore, MD > >gnorman at guidedogs.com > > > >EX Officio Members > >Jeffrey Senge / Fodi > >Immediate Past Board Chair > >San Clemente, CA > >714-337-0065 (Mobile) > >jsenge at guidedogs.com > > > > > >George Kerscher / Mikey > >GDB Board of Directors Representative > >Missoula, MT > >406-549-4687 (Mobile) > >gkerscher at guidedogs.com > > > >GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND > >P.O. BOX 151200 > >SAN RAFAEL, CA 94915 > >(415) 499-4000 > > > >32901 SE KELSO ROAD > >BORING, OR 97009 > >(503) 668-2100 > >(800) 295-4050 > >www.guidedogs.com > > > > > > > > >Gift Shop Item List > >Updated: August 3, 2013 > > > >DOG CARE ITEMS: > > > >DOG EQUIPMENT > >Dog Booties - Extra Small to Large, Red or Gray $21.00 per Pair (2 per pair) > >Leash - brown braided leather service dog leash, multi functional $16.00 > >Tiedown - from clip to clip is 33 inches, tie down length is 27 inches $7.99 > > > >DOG SUPPLIES > >Clicker (for training) $1.99 > >Collaps-a-Bowl - Dishwasher safe, 24 fl oz, Red, Blue, or Orange $9.99 > >Collapsible Klip Scoop - food scoop and handy built-in clip in the handle to >close the food bag. Measures 1 cup, available in green. $6.00 > >Leash Luggage (clean up bag holder) $6.99 > >Light Strip - can attach to harness $10.00 > >Pet Tag Silencer - Black, Purple, Royal Blue, Hunter Green, Orange or Red >$6.00 > >Raincoat - Small to Extra Large, Blue or Yellow $22.00 > >Rug (fleece pad) $14.99 > >Treat Bag with adjustable belt and magnetic closure $15.49 > >Sandalwood Spice Shampoo 16 oz, $7.00 > >Sandalwood Spice Grooming Spray 4 oz, $5.00 > >Waterbottle with detachable bowl $12.00 > > > >DOG TOYS > >GoughNuts - manufacturer guaranteed $14.99 > >Goughnut Stick - manufacturer guaranteed - $18.00 > >Kong - size: large $8.49 > >Textured Nyla Bone $9.99 > >Tug Toy - bone shaped with handle, orange or blue $10.00 > > > >BAGS > >Backpack $43.00 > >Fanny Pack, Navy, $12.99 > >Lunch Cooler - blue $18.00 > > > >GIFTS > >Book Guide Doggie - coloring and activity book, 54 pages $8.00 > >Bone Paperclips $3.00 > >Braille coffee mug $12.00 > >Bracelet - navy rope with GDB charm $3.00 > >Car Shade $10.00 > >3D Tactile Magnet on sale $3.00 > >Coffee mug with lid, 12 ounces - Stainless Steel $11.00 > >Dog Shaped rubber key ring, yellow or black, $3.00 > >Ergonomic travel mug, 16 oz. $12.00 > >ID Holder , blue, purple, black or red $5.00 > >License Plate Frame - silver $10.00 > >Notebook - 4x6 - 50 pages of lined paper $5.00 > >Pen $8.00 > >Photo Frame - vertical, with paw prints around 4 x 6 - $12.00 > >Photo Album - red, blue or black. Holds 24 4x6 photos $8.00 > >Pin with braille $9.00 > > > >HATS > >Structured Cap - GDB Logo - Beige or Grey $12.00 > >Sport Hat - Black or Red $9.99 > >Visor - Khaki or Navy $9.99 > > > > > >HOLIDAY CARDS > >Current - 3 pups, golden retriever, yellow lab and black lab. Available with >braille and script or blank. 10 cards and envelopes per pack $12.00 > >Pups Sleeping with greeting or blank, $4.00 for a pack of 10 . > > > >Infant/Toddler > >Onesie " Future Guide Dog Lover", white with green writing $13.00 > >Onesie - Guide Dog Love - white with a guide dog shape filled with red >hearts, and the GDB logo on the arm sleeve $13.00 > > > >MEN'S SHIRTS > >Men's "Dream Team" Tee, Steel Blue or Maroon, Small through Extra Extra >Large - $20.00 > >Men's Polo - black with stripe detail on collar and sleeve bands. GDB logo on >left chest, Medium through Extra Extra Large, available in black. > >Men's Windbreakers , Black, Small only sale $30.00 > >Men's Quarter Zip Sweatshirt, Black or Grey, limited sizes On sale $25.00 > >Men's Full Zip Fleece, Grey, limited sizes, on sale $25.00 > > > >NOTECARDS > >Photo Note cards - on sale $4.00 > > > >PLUSH > >Pillow, Blanket and Plush Toy in 1, $15.00 > >Puppy with Puppy jacket - Black Lab, Yellow Lab, or Golden Retriever $8.75 > >Working Puppy with Harness - Yellow Lab, Black Lab or Golden Retriever >$14.50 > >Large Puppy with green puppy jacket on sale $10.00 - while supplies last - >black labs only available > > > >UNISEX > >Team GDB Bicycle Jersey - Small through Extra Extra Large $65.00 > > > >WOMEN'S SHIRTS > >Women's "Dream Team," Scoopneck - aqua blue or black, Extra Small >through Extra Extra Large $20.00 > >Women's "Dream Team", Vee - deep purple or pink, Small through Extra >Extra Large $20.00 > >Women's Quarter Zip Sweatshirt, heather brown or royal, limited sizes, on >sale $25.00 > > > >YOUTH > >Youth "Dream Team" Tee, Sapphire Blue or lime green, Small through Extra >Large - $15.00 > >Youth "Priceless" Tee, chocolate, Extra Small through Extra Extra Large $15.00 > > > >California Tax Rate 9.00% > > > >Guide Dogs for the Blind Gift Shop Order desk >1-800-295-4050 extension 4151 or shop online 24/7 at >www.guidedogs.com/shop . > >You can order online and select "store pickup" to pick up your order. Please >allow 48 hours before pick up. > > > > >Grad Vendor Announcements > > > >Handmade Bracelets by Holly McKnight: > >I am making special bracelets for Guide Dog handlers, puppy raisers, family, >and friends. Colorful beads are arranged on memory wire to easily fit every >wrist. Letters spell GDB. I will have many of these available at the reunion >for $10 each. > > > >Contact me at hollyandpolly at hotmail.com > if you would like to pre-order a >bracelet with your dog's name. > > > >GuideLights and Gadgets > >Coming to GDB, San Rafael...! > > > >"In the beginning, there was travel in the darkness...and then there were >GuideLights!" > > > >GuideLights and Gadgets, a brand new company specializing in safety, >convenience, travel and fun for guide dog handlers and their dogs, will be a >part of the 2013 Alumni Reunion weekend. Inspired by one very special >guide dog, the original "GuideLight," the business began last year and >continues to grow as it becomes known as "the place where 'Happiness >WAGS!" Traveling to conferences, trade shows and smaller local events, >GuideLIghts brings an assortment of guide-dog-related products to handlers >and dogs. We carry 3 sizes of collapsible travel bowl, several styles of >reward/treat bags, slipleads with no metal parts (great for getting quickly >through airport security, toothbrushes, grooming wipes, lighted collars, >leashes, pendants; also gifts, such as our "Happiness WAGS!" t-shirts, >coasters and keychains picturing the different guide dog breeds, and even a >few stuffed toys (of people play, of course!). There is way too much to list >here, so plan to come check out GuideLights and Gadgets and see for yourself >what we have to offer! > > > >There is even rumor of a possible "PupperWare" Party to happen sometime >over the weekend. More details will be rumored as they develop! > > > > > >Theresa Stern > >Alumni Association Director > >Guide Dogs for the Blind > >Phone: 800 295-4050 x4171 > >Visit us online at guidedogs.com or 'like' us >on Facebook > > > > > > >________________________________ > >Guide Dogs for the Blind >Creating successful partnerships for 70 years! >Celebrate the remarkable bond between humans and dogs. >Your generosity can change someone's life! > >Give online at www.guidedogs.com/donate today! > >________________________________ From lilrichie411 at gmail.com Thu Sep 12 20:05:42 2013 From: lilrichie411 at gmail.com (Jordan Richardson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:05:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment Discrimination? Message-ID: Hi all, I was hired as a preschool tutor with the Minnesota Reading Corps (an AmeriCorps affiliate). They work with different sites to hire tutors. They have trained me and payed me, but when it came time for me to start working they delayed my start and barred me from showing up at the site. I have requested Braille as an accommodation and said that I can provide the Braille myself. I would use dymo tape on flash cards and books. The following paragraph is from an email from the > "I understand Kay Tellinghuisen of The Family Partnership (TFP) has been working with you to place a Reading Corps member. Because of the work conditions which are presented at TFP for this position and the visual impairment of your member, we are requesting your further help to ensure the safety and success for all." To this emailthere was a document attached titled "ADA Medical Provider Report." As I understand I am under no obligation to fill out this form. Is that correct? It is obvious the need for accommodations. What are my legal obligations? What do you suggest I do next? Respectfully, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad From rumpole at roadrunner.com Thu Sep 12 20:19:26 2013 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:19:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question Message-ID: This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Sep 12 20:29:06 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:29:06 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From sbg at sbgaal.com Thu Sep 12 20:44:23 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:44:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Sep 12 20:51:41 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:51:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <000301ceaff9$e22a65f0$a67f31d0$@wiennergould.com> I usually get it to work by swiping across the screen a couple of times. It works, but takes a bit. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 12 21:48:07 2013 From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net (Rob Tabor) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:48:07 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <000c01ceb001$c55c9d00$5015d700$@sbcglobal.net> Hello Shannon and list, When the iPhone keypad hides from you when you most need it, there are some virtual buttons in the center of the touchscreen. Of the 2 that I remember one of them is "facetime" and the other is "keypad." I have discovered if you double tap on the keypad button the dial pad will come right up so you can respond to the prompts of the automated call. Bueno suerte con eso y ojalá que puedo ayudarle. Translation: Good luck with that and I hope this helps. Rob "Jayhawk" Tabor -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob.tabor%40sbcglobal. net From blinddog3 at charter.net Fri Sep 13 00:30:59 2013 From: blinddog3 at charter.net (Steven Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:30:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment Discrimination? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007b01ceb018$8526cfa0$8f746ee0$@charter.net> Jordan, I hope this helps: The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- NOTICE Number EEOC 915.002 Date 7/27/00 1. SUBJECT: EEOC Enforcement Guidance on Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations of Employees Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) 2. PURPOSE: This enforcement guidance explains when it is permissible foremployers to make disability-related inquiries or require medical examinations of employees. 3. EFFECTIVE DATE: Upon receipt. 4. EXPIRATION DATE: As an exception to EEOC Order 205.001, Appendix B,Attachment 4, § a(5), this Notice will remain in effect until rescinded or superseded. 5. ORIGINATOR: ADA Division, Office of Legal Counsel. 6. INSTRUCTIONS: File after Section 902 of Volume II of the Compliance Manual. 7/27/00 /s/ Date Ida L. Castro Chairwoman DISTRIBUTION: CM Holders ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ENFORCEMENT GUIDANCE: DISABILITY-RELATED INQUIRIES AND MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS OF EMPLOYEES UNDER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA) Notice Concerning The Americans With Disabilities Act Amendments Act Of 2008 The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) Amendments Act of 2008 was signed into law on September 25, 2008 and becomes effective January 1, 2009. Because this law makes several significant changes, including changes to the definition of the term "disability," the EEOC will be evaluating the impact of these changes on this document and other publications. See the list of specific changes to the ADA made by the ADA Amendments Act. TABLE OF CONTENTS INTRODUCTION GENERAL PRINCIPLES Background Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations of Employees JOB-RELATED AND CONSISTENT WITH BUSINESS NECESSITY In General Scope and Manner of Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations Relating to Leave Periodic Testing and Monitoring OTHER ACCEPTABLE DISABILITY-RELATED INQUIRIES AND MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS OF EMPLOYEES INDEX INTRODUCTION Title I of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (the "ADA")(1) limits an employer's ability to make disability-related inquiries or require medical examinations at three stages: pre-offer, post-offer, and during employment. In its guidance on preemployment disability-related inquiries and medical examinations, the Commission addressed the ADA's restrictions on disability-related inquiries and medical examinations at the pre- and post-offer stages.(2) This enforcement guidance focuses on the ADA's limitations on disability-related inquiries and medical examinations during employment.(3) Disability-related inquiries and medical examinations of employees must be "job-related and consistent with business necessity." This guidance gives examples of the kinds of questions that are and are not "disability-related" and examples of tests and procedures that generally are and are not "medical." The guidance also defines what the term "job-related and consistent with business necessity" means and addresses situations in which an employer would meet the general standard for asking an employee a disability-related question or requiring a medical examination. Other acceptable inquiries and examinations of employees, such as inquiries and examinations required by federal law and those that are part of voluntary wellness and health screening programs, as well as invitations to voluntarily self-identify as persons with disabilities for affirmative action purposes, also are addressed.(4) GENERAL PRINCIPLES A. Background Historically, many employers asked applicants and employees to provide information concerning their physical and/or mental condition. This information often was used to exclude and otherwise discriminate against individuals with disabilities -- particularly nonvisible disabilities, such as diabetes, epilepsy, heart disease, cancer, and mental illness -- despite their ability to perform the job. The ADA's provisions concerning disability-related inquiries and medical examinations reflect Congress's intent to protect the rights of applicants and employees to be assessed on merit alone, while protecting the rights of employers to ensure that individuals in the workplace can efficiently perform the essential functions of their jobs.(5) Under the ADA, an employer's ability to make disability-related inquiries or require medical examinations is analyzed in three stages: pre-offer, post-offer, and employment. At the first stage (prior to an offer of employment), the ADA prohibits all disability-related inquiries and medical examinations, even if they are related to the job.(6) At the second stage (after an applicant is given a conditional job offer, but before s/he starts work), an employer may make disability-related inquiries and conduct medical examinations, regardless of whether they are related to the job, as long as it does so for all entering employees in the same job category.(7) At the third stage (after employment begins), an employer may make disability-related inquiries and require medical examinations only if they are job-related and consistent with business necessity.(8) The ADA requires employers to treat any medical information obtained from a disability-related inquiry or medical examination (including medical information from voluntary health or wellness programs (9)), as well as any medical information voluntarily disclosed by an employee, as a confidential medical record. Employers may share such information only in limited circumstances with supervisors, managers, first aid and safety personnel, and government officials investigating compliance with the ADA.(10) B. Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations of Employees The ADA states, in relevant part: A covered entity(11) shall not require a medical examination and shall not make inquiries of an employee as to whether such employee is an individual with a disability or as to the nature and severity of the disability, unless such examination or inquiry is shown to be job-related and consistent with business necessity.(12) This statutory language makes clear that the ADA's restrictions on inquiries and examinations apply to all employees, not just those with disabilities. Unlike other provisions of the ADA which are limited to qualified individuals with disabilities,(13) the use of the term "employee" in this provision reflects Congress's intent to cover a broader class of individuals and to prevent employers from asking questions and conducting medical examinations that serve no legitimate purpose.(14) Requiring an individual to show that s/he is a person with a disability in order to challenge a disability-related inquiry or medical examination would defeat this purpose.(15) Any employee, therefore, has a right to challenge a disability-related inquiry or medical examination that is not job-related and consistent with business necessity. Only disability-related inquiries and medical examinations are subject to the ADA's restrictions. Thus, the first issue that must be addressed is whether the employer's question is a "disability-related inquiry" or whether the test or procedure it is requiring is a "medical examination." The next issue is whether the person being questioned or asked to submit to a medical examination is an "employee." If the person is an employee (rather than an applicant or a person who has received a conditional job offer), the final issue is whether the inquiry or examination is "job-related and consistent with business necessity" or is otherwise permitted by the ADA.(16) 1. What is a "disability-related inquiry"? In its guidance on Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, the Commission explained in detail what is and is not a disability-related inquiry.(17) A "disability-related inquiry" is a question (or series of questions) that is likely to elicit information about a disability.(18) The same standards for determining whether a question is disability-related in the pre- and post-offer stages apply to the employment stage.(19) Disability-related inquiries may include the following: •asking an employee whether s/he has (or ever had) a disability or how s/he became disabled or inquiring about the nature or severity of an employee's disability;(20) •asking an employee to provide medical documentation regarding his/her disability; •asking an employee's co-worker, family member, doctor, or another person about an employee's disability; •asking about an employee's genetic information;(21) •asking about an employee's prior workers' compensation history;(22) •asking an employee whether s/he currently is taking any prescription drugs or medications, whether s/he has taken any such drugs or medications in the past, or monitoring an employee's taking of such drugs or medications;(23) and, •asking an employee a broad question about his/her impairments that is likely to elicit information about a disability (e.g., What impairments do you have?).(24) Questions that are not likely to elicit information about a disability are not disability-related inquiries and, therefore, are not prohibited under the ADA. Questions that are permitted include the following: •asking generally about an employee's well being (e.g., How are you?), asking an employee who looks tired or ill if s/he is feeling okay, asking an employee who is sneezing or coughing whether s/he has a cold or allergies, or asking how an employee is doing following the death of a loved one or the end of a marriage/relationship; •asking an employee about nondisability-related impairments (e.g., How did you break your leg?)(25) •asking an employee whether s/he can perform job functions; •asking an employee whether s/he has been drinking;(26) •asking an employee about his/her current illegal use of drugs;(27) •asking a pregnant employee how she is feeling or when her baby is due;(28) and, •asking an employee to provide the name and telephone number of a person to contact in case of a medical emergency. 2. What is a "medical examination"? A "medical examination" is a procedure or test that seeks information about an individual's physical or mental impairments or health.(29) The guidance on Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations lists the following factors that should be considered to determine whether a test (or procedure) is a medical examination: (1) whether the test is administered by a health care professional; (2) whether the test is interpreted by a health care professional; (3) whether the test is designed to reveal an impairment or physical or mental health; (4) whether the test is invasive; (5) whether the test measures an employee's performance of a task or measures his/her physiological responses to performing the task ; (6) whether the test normally is given in a medical setting; and, (7) whether medical equipment is used.(30) In many cases, a combination of factors will be relevant in determining whether a test or procedure is a medical examination. In other cases, one factor may be enough to determine that a test or procedure is medical. Medical examinations include, but are not limited to, the following: •vision tests conducted and analyzed by an ophthalmologist or optometrist; •blood, urine, and breath analyses to check for alcohol use;(31) •blood, urine, saliva, and hair analyses to detect disease or genetic markers (e.g., for conditions such as sickle cell trait, breast cancer, Huntington's disease); •blood pressure screening and cholesterol testing; •nerve conduction tests (i.e., tests that screen for possible nerve damage and susceptibility to injury, such as carpal tunnel syndrome); •range-of-motion tests that measure muscle strength and motor function; •pulmonary function tests (i.e., tests that measure the capacity of the lungs to hold air and to move air in and out); •psychological tests that are designed to identify a mental disorder or impairment; and, •diagnostic procedures such as x-rays, computerized axial tomography (CAT) scans, and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). There are a number of procedures and tests employers may require that generally are not considered medical examinations, including: •tests to determine the current illegal use of drugs;(32) •physical agility tests, which measure an employee's ability to perform actual or simulated job tasks, and physical fitness tests, which measure an employee's performance of physical tasks, such as running or lifting, as long as these tests do not include examinations that could be considered medical (e.g., measuring heart rate or blood pressure); •tests that evaluate an employee's ability to read labels or distinguish objects as part of a demonstration of the ability to perform actual job functions; •psychological tests that measure personality traits such as honesty, preferences, and habits; and, •polygraph examinations.(33) 3. Who is an "employee"? The ADA defines the term "employee" as "an individual employed by an employer."(34) As a general rule, an individual is an employee if an entity controls the means and manner of his/her work performance.(35) Where more than one entity controls the means and manner of how an individual's work is done, the individual is an employee of each entity. Example: XYZ, a temporary employment agency, hires a computer programmer and assigns him to Business Systems, Inc. (BSI), one of its clients. XYZ determines when the programmer's assignment begins and pays him a salary based on the number of hours worked as reported by BSI. XYZ also withholds social security and taxes and provides workers' compensation coverage. BSI sets the hours of work, the duration of the job, and oversees the programmer's work. XYZ can terminate the programmer if his performance is unacceptable to BSI. The programmer is an employee of both XYZ and BSI. Thus, XYZ and BSI may ask the programmer disability-related questions and require a medical examination only if they are job-related and consistent with business necessity. 4. How should an employer treat an employee who applies for a new (i.e., different) job with the same employer? An employer should treat an employee who applies for a new job as an applicant for the new job.(36) The employer, therefore, is prohibited from asking disability-related questions or requiring a medical examination before making the individual a conditional offer of the new position.(37) Further, where a current supervisor has medical information regarding an employee who is applying for a new job, s/he may not disclose that information to the person interviewing the employee for the new job or to the supervisor of that job. After the employer extends an offer for the new position, it may ask the individual disability-related questions or require a medical examination as long as it does so for all entering employees in the same job category. If an employer withdraws the offer based on medical information (i.e., screens him/her out because of a disability), it must show that the reason for doing so was job-related and consistent with business necessity. An individual is not an applicant where s/he is noncompetitively entitled to another position with the same employer (e.g., because of seniority or satisfactory performance in his/her current position). An individual who is temporarily assigned to another position and then returns to his/her regular job also is not an applicant. These individuals are employees and, therefore, the employer only may make a disability-related inquiry or require a medical examination that is job-related and consistent with business necessity. Example A: Ruth, an inventory clerk for a retail store, applies for a position as a sales associate at the same store. Ruth is an applicant for the new job. Accordingly, her employer may not ask any disability-related questions or require a medical examination before extending her a conditional offer of the sales associate position. Following a conditional offer of employment, the employer may ask disability-related questions and conduct medical examinations, regardless of whether they are related to the job, as long as it does so for all entering employees in the same job category.(38) Example B: A grade 4 clerk typist has worked in the same position for one year and received a rating of outstanding on her annual performance appraisal. When she was hired, she was told that she automatically would be considered for promotion to the next grade after 12 months of satisfactory performance. Because the clerk typist is noncompetitively entitled to a promotion, she is an employee and not an applicant. The employer, therefore, only may make a disability-related inquiry or require a medical examination that is job-related and consistent with business necessity. Example C: A newspaper reporter, who regularly works out of his employer's New York headquarters, is temporarily assigned to its bureau in South Africa to cover the political elections. Because the reporter is on a temporary assignment doing the same job, he is an employee; the employer, therefore, may make disability-related inquiries or require medical examinations only if they are job-related and consistent with business necessity. JOB-RELATED AND CONSISTENT WITH BUSINESS NECESSITY Once an employee is on the job, his/her actual performance is the best measure of ability to do the job. When a need arises to question the ability of an employee to do the essential functions of his/her job or to question whether the employee can do the job without posing a direct threat due to a medical condition, it may be job-related and consistent with business necessity for an employer to make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination. A. In General 5. When may a disability-related inquiry or medical examination of an employee be "job-related and consistent with business necessity"? Generally, a disability-related inquiry or medical examination of an employee may be "job-related and consistent with business necessity" when an employer "has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that: (1) an employee's ability to perform essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition; or (2) an employee will pose a direct threat(39) due to a medical condition."(40) Disability-related inquiries and medical examinations that follow up on a request for reasonable accommodation when the disability or need for accommodation is not known or obvious also may be job-related and consistent with business necessity. In addition, periodic medical examinations and other monitoring under specific circumstances may be job-related and consistent with business necessity.(41) Sometimes this standard may be met when an employer knows about a particular employee's medical condition, has observed performance problems, and reasonably can attribute the problems to the medical condition. An employer also may be given reliable information by a credible third party that an employee has a medical condition,(42) or the employer may observe symptoms indicating that an employee may have a medical condition that will impair his/her ability to perform essential job functions or will pose a direct threat. In these situations, it may be job-related and consistent with business necessity for an employer to make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination. Example A: For the past two months, Sally, a tax auditor for a federal government agency, has done a third fewer audits than the average employee in her unit. She also has made numerous mistakes in assessing whether taxpayers provided appropriate documentation for claimed deductions. When questioned about her poor performance, Sally tells her supervisor that the medication she takes for her lupus makes her lethargic and unable to concentrate. Based on Sally's explanation for her performance problems, the agency has a reasonable belief that her ability to perform the essential functions of her job will be impaired because of a medical condition.(43) Sally's supervisor, therefore, may make disability-related inquiries (e.g.,ask her whether she is taking a new medication and how long the medication's side effects are expected to last), or the supervisor may ask Sally to provide documentation from her health care provider explaining the effects of the medication on Sally's ability to perform her job. Example B: A crane operator works at construction sites hoisting concrete panels weighing several tons. A rigger on the ground helps him load the panels, and several other workers help him position them. During a break, the crane operator appears to become light-headed, has to sit down abruptly, and seems to have some difficulty catching his breath. In response to a question from his supervisor about whether he is feeling all right, the crane operator says that this has happened to him a few times during the past several months, but he does not know why. The employer has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that the employee will pose a direct threat and, therefore, may require the crane operator to have a medical examination to ascertain whether the symptoms he is experiencing make him unfit to perform his job. To ensure that it receives sufficient information to make this determination, the employer may want to provide the doctor who does the examination with a description of the employee's duties, including any physical qualification standards, and require that the employee provide documentation of his ability to work following the examination.(44) Example C: Six months ago, a supervisor heard a secretary tell her co-worker that she discovered a lump in her breast and is afraid that she may have breast cancer. Since that conversation, the secretary still comes to work every day and performs her duties in her normal efficient manner. In this case, the employer does not have a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, either that the secretary's ability to perform her essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition or that she will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition. The employer, therefore, may not make any disability-related inquiries or require the employee to submit to a medical examination. An employer's reasonable belief that an employee's ability to perform essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition or that s/he will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition must be based on objective evidence obtained, or reasonably available to the employer, prior to making a disability-related inquiry or requiring a medical examination. Such a belief requires an assessment of the employee and his/her position and cannot be based on general assumptions. Example D: An employee who works in the produce department of a large grocery store tells her supervisor that she is HIV-positive. The employer is concerned that the employee poses a direct threat to the health and safety of others because she frequently works with sharp knives and might cut herself while preparing produce for display. The store requires any employee working with sharp knives to wear gloves and frequently observes employees to determine whether they are complying with this policy. Available scientific evidence shows that the possibility of transmitting HIV from a produce clerk to other employees or the public, assuming the store's policy is observed, is virtually nonexistent. Moreover, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which has the responsibility under the ADA for preparing a list of infectious and communicable diseases that may be transmitted through food handling,(45) does not include HIV on the list.(46) In this case, the employer does not have a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that this employee's ability to perform the essential functions of her position will be impaired or that she will pose a direct threat due to her medical condition. The employer, therefore, may not make any disability-related inquiries or require the employee to submit to a medical examination.(47) 6. May an employer make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination of an employee based, in whole or in part, on information learned from another person? Yes, if the information learned is reliable and would give rise to a reasonable belief that the employee's ability to perform essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition or that s/he will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition, an employer may make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination. Factors that an employer might consider in assessing whether information learned from another person is sufficient to justify asking disability-related questions or requiring a medical examination of an employee include: (1) the relationship of the person providing the information to the employee about whom it is being provided; (2) the seriousness of the medical condition at issue; (3) the possible motivation of the person providing the information; (4) how the person learned the information (e.g., directly from the employee whose medical condition is in question or from someone else); and (5) other evidence that the employer has that bears on the reliability of the information provided. Example A: Bob and Joe are close friends who work as copy editors for an advertising firm. Bob tells Joe that he is worried because he has just learned that he had a positive reaction to a tuberculin skin test and believes that he has tuberculosis. Joe encourages Bob to tell their supervisor, but Bob refuses. Joe is reluctant to breach Bob's trust but is concerned that he and the other editors may be at risk since they all work closely together in the same room. After a couple of sleepless nights, Joe tells his supervisor about Bob. The supervisor questions Joe about how he learned of Bob's alleged condition and finds Joe's explanation credible. Because tuberculosis is a potentially life-threatening medical condition and can be passed from person to person by coughing or sneezing, the supervisor has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that Bob will pose a direct threat if he in fact has active tuberculosis. Under these circumstances, the employer may make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination to the extent necessary to determine whether Bob has tuberculosis and is contagious.(48) Example B: Kim works for a small computer consulting firm. When her mother died suddenly, she asked her employer for three weeks off, in addition to the five days that the company customarily provides in the event of the death of a parent or spouse, to deal with family matters. During her extended absence, a rumor circulated among some employees that Kim had been given additional time off to be treated for depression. Shortly after Kim's return to work, Dave, who works on the same team with Kim, approached his manager to say that he had heard that some workers were concerned about their safety. According to Dave, people in the office claimed that Kim was talking to herself and threatening to harm them. Dave said that he had not observed the strange behavior himself but was not surprised to hear about it given Kim's alleged recent treatment for depression. Dave's manager sees Kim every day and never has observed this kind of behavior. In addition, none of the co-workers to whom the manager spoke confirmed Dave's statements. In this case, the employer does not have a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that Kim's ability to perform essential functions will be impaired or that s/he will pose a direct threat because of a medical condition. The employer, therefore, would not be justified in asking Kim disability-related questions or requiring her to submit to a medical examination because the information provided by Dave is not reliable. Example C: Several customers have complained that Richard, a customer service representative for a mail order company, has made numerous errors on their orders. They consistently have complained that Richard seems to have a problem hearing because he always asks them to repeat the item number(s), color(s), size(s), credit card number(s), etc., and frequently asks them to speak louder. They also have complained that he incorrectly reads back their addresses even when they have enunciated clearly and spelled street names. In this case, the employer has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that Richard's ability to correctly process mail orders will be impaired by a medical condition (i.e., a problem with his hearing). The employer, therefore, may make disability-related inquiries of Richard or require him to submit to a medical examination to determine whether he can perform the essential functions of his job. 7. May an employer ask an employee for documentation when s/he requests a reasonable accommodation? Yes. The employer is entitled to know that an employee has a covered disability that requires a reasonable accommodation.(49) Thus, when the disability or the need for the accommodation is not known or obvious, it is job-related and consistent with business necessity for an employer to ask an employee for reasonable documentation about his/her disability and its functional limitations that require reasonable accommodation.(50) 8. May an employer ask all employees what prescription medications they are taking? Generally, no. Asking all employees about their use of prescription medications is not job-related and consistent with business necessity.(51) In limited circumstances, however, certain employers may be able to demonstrate that it is job-related and consistent with business necessity to require employees in positions affecting public safety to report when they are taking medication that may affect their ability to perform essential functions. Under these limited circumstances, an employer must be able to demonstrate that an employee's inability or impaired ability to perform essential functions will result in a direct threat. For example, a police department could require armed officers to report when they are taking medications that may affect their ability to use a firearm or to perform other essential functions of their job. Similarly, an airline could require its pilots to report when they are taking any medications that may impair their ability to fly. A fire department, however, could not require fire department employees who perform only administrative duties to report their use of medications because it is unlikely that it could show that these employees would pose a direct threat as a result of their inability or impaired ability to perform their essential job functions. 9. What action may an employer take if an employee fails to respond to a disability-related inquiry or fails to submit to a medical examination that is job-related and consistent with business necessity? The action the employer may take depends on its reason for making the disability-related inquiry or requiring a medical examination. Example A: A supervisor notices that the quality of work from an ordinarily outstanding employee has deteriorated over the past several months. Specifically, the employee requires more time to complete routine reports, which frequently are submitted late and contain numerous errors. The supervisor also has observed during this period of time that the employee appears to be squinting to see her computer monitor, is holding printed material close to her face to read it, and takes frequent breaks during which she sometimes is seen rubbing her eyes. Concerned about the employee's declining performance, which appears to be due to a medical condition, the supervisor tells her to go see the company doctor, but she does not. Any discipline that the employer decides to impose should focus on the employee's performance problems. Thus, the employer may discipline the employee for past and future performance problems in accordance with a uniformly applied policy. Example B: An accountant with no known disability asks for an ergonomic chair because she says she is having back pain. The employer asks the employee to provide documentation from her treating physician that: (1) describes the nature, severity, and duration of her impairment, the activity or activities that the impairment limits, and the extent to which the impairment limits her ability to perform the activity or activities; and (2) substantiates why an ergonomic chair is needed. Here, the employee's possible disability and need for reasonable accommodation are not obvious. Therefore, if the employee fails to provide the requested documentation or if the documentation does not demonstrate the existence of a disability, the employer can refuse to provide the chair.(52) B. Scope and Manner of Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations 10. What documentation may an employer require from an employee who requests a reasonable accommodation? An employer may require an employee to provide documentation that is sufficient to substantiate that s/he has an ADA disability and needs the reasonable accommodation requested, but cannot ask for unrelated documentation. This means that, in most circumstances, an employer cannot ask for an employee's complete medical records because they are likely to contain information unrelated to the disability at issue and the need for accommodation.(53) Documentation is sufficient if it: (1) describes the nature, severity, and duration of the employee's impairment, the activity or activities that the impairment limits, and the extent to which the impairment limits the employee's ability to perform the activity or activities; and, (2) substantiates why the requested reasonable accommodation is needed. Example: An employee, who has exhausted all of his available leave, telephones his supervisor on Monday morning to inform him that he had a severe pain episode on Saturday due to his sickle cell anemia, is in the hospital, and needs time off. Prior to this call, the supervisor was unaware of the employee's medical condition. The employer can ask the employee to send in documentation from his treating physician that substantiates that the employee has a disability, confirms that his hospitalization is related to his disability, and provides information on how long he may be absent from work.(54) 11. May an employer require an employee to go to a health care professional of the employer's (rather than the employee's) choice when the employee requests a reasonable accommodation? The ADA does not prevent an employer from requiring an employee to go to an appropriate health care professional of the employer's choice if the employee provides insufficient documentation from his/her treating physician (or other health care professional) to substantiate that s/he has an ADA disability and needs a reasonable accommodation.(55) However, if an employee provides insufficient documentation in response to the employer's initial request, the employer should explain why the documentation is insufficient and allow the employee an opportunity to provide the missing information in a timely manner.(56) The employer also should consider consulting with the employee's doctor (with the employee's consent) before requiring the employee to go to a health care professional of its choice.(57) Documentation is insufficient if it does not specify the existence of an ADA disability and explain the need for reasonable accommodation.(58) Documentation also might be insufficient where, for example: (1) the health care professional does not have the expertise to give an opinion about the employee's medical condition and the limitations imposed by it; (2) the information does not specify the functional limitations due to the disability; or, (3) other factors indicate that the information provided is not credible or is fraudulent. If an employee provides insufficient documentation, an employer does not have to provide reasonable accommodation until sufficient documentation is provided. Any medical examination conducted by the employer's health care professional must be job-related and consistent with business necessity. This means that the examination must be limited to determining the existence of an ADA disability and the functional limitations that require reasonable accommodation. If an employer requires an employee to go to a health care professional of the employer's choice, the employer must pay all costs associated with the visit(s).(59) The Commission has previously stated that when an employee provides sufficient evidence of the existence of a disability and the need for reasonable accommodation, continued efforts by the employer to require that the individual provide more documentation and/or submit to a medical examination could be considered retaliation.(60) However, an employer that requests additional information or requires a medical examination based on a good faith belief that the documentation the employee submitted is insufficient would not be liable for retaliation. 12. May an employer require that an employee, who it reasonably believes will pose a direct threat, be examined by an appropriate health care professional of the employer's choice? Yes. The determination that an employee poses a direct threat must be based on an individualized assessment of the employee's present ability to safely perform the essential functions of the job. This assessment must be based on a reasonable medical judgment that relies on the most current medical knowledge and/or best objective evidence.(61) To meet this burden, an employer may want to have the employee examined by a health care professional of its choice who has expertise in the employee's specific condition and can provide medical information that allows the employer to determine the effects of the condition on the employee's ability to perform his/her job. Any medical examination, however, must be limited to determining whether the employee can perform his/her job without posing a direct threat, with or without reasonable accommodation. An employer also must pay all costs associated with the employee's visit(s) to its health care professional.(62) An employer should be cautious about relying solely on the opinion of its own health care professional that an employee poses a direct threat where that opinion is contradicted by documentation from the employee's own treating physician, who is knowledgeable about the employee's medical condition and job functions, and/or other objective evidence. In evaluating conflicting medical information, the employer may find it helpful to consider: (1) the area of expertise of each medical professional who has provided information; (2) the kind of information each person providing documentation has about the job's essential functions and the work environment in which they are performed; (3) whether a particular opinion is based on speculation or on current, objectively verifiable information about the risks associated with a particular condition; and, (4) whether the medical opinion is contradicted by information known to or observed by the employer (e.g., information about the employee's actual experience in the job in question or in previous similar jobs). 13. How much medical information can an employer obtain about an employee when it reasonably believes that an employee's ability to perform the essential functions of his/her job will be impaired by a medical condition or that s/he will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition? An employer is entitled only to the information necessary to determine whether the employee can do the essential functions of the job or work without posing a direct threat. This means that, in most situations, an employer cannot request an employee's complete medical records because they are likely to contain information unrelated to whether the employee can perform his/her essential functions or work without posing a direct threat. 14. May an employer require an employee to provide medical certification that s/he can safely perform a physical agility or physical fitness test? Yes. Employers that require physical agility or physical fitness tests may ask an employee to have a physician certify whether s/he can safely perform the test. (63) In this situation, however, the employer is entitled to obtain only a note simply stating that the employee can safely perform the test or, alternatively, an explanation of the reason(s) why the employee cannot perform the test. An employer may not obtain the employee's complete medical records or information about any conditions that do not affect the employee's ability to perform the physical agility or physical fitness test safely. C. Disability-Related Inquiries and Medical Examinations Relating to Leave(64) 15. May an employer request an employee to provide a doctor's note or other explanation to substantiate his/her use of sick leave? Yes. An employer is entitled to know why an employee is requesting sick leave. An employer, therefore, may ask an employee to justify his/her use of sick leave by providing a doctor's note or other explanation, as long as it has a policy or practice of requiring all employees, with and without disabilities, to do so. 16. May an employer require periodic updates when an employee is on extended leave because of a medical condition? Yes. If the employee's request for leave did not specify an exact or fairly specific return date (e.g., October 4 or around the second week of November) or if the employee needs continued leave beyond what was originally granted, the employer may require the employee to provide periodic updates on his/her condition and possible date of return.(65) However, where the employer has granted a fixed period of extended leave and the employee has not requested additional leave, the employer cannot require the employee to provide periodic updates. Employers, of course, may call employees on extended leave to check on their progress or to express concern for their health. 17. May an employer make disability-related inquiries or require a medical examinationwhen an employee who has been on leave for a medical condition seeks to return to work? Yes. If an employer has a reasonable belief that an employee's present ability to perform essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition or that s/he will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition, the employer may make disability-related inquiries or require the employee to submit to a medical examination. Any inquiries or examination, however, must be limited in scope to what is needed to make an assessment of the employee's ability to work. Usually, inquiries or examinations related to the specific medical condition for which the employee took leave will be all that is warranted. The employer may not use the employee's leave as a justification for making far-ranging disability-related inquiries or requiring an unrelated medical examination. Example A: A data entry clerk broke her leg while skiing and was out of work for four weeks, after which time she returned to work on crutches. In this case, the employer does not have a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, either that the clerk's ability to perform her essential job functions will be impaired by a medical condition or that she will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition. The employer, therefore, may not make any disability-related inquiries or require a medical examination but generally may ask the clerk how she is doing and express concern about her injury. Example B: As the result of problems he was having with his medication, an employee with a known psychiatric disability threatened several of his co-workers and was disciplined. Shortly thereafter, he was hospitalized for six weeks for treatment related to the condition. Two days after his release, the employee returns to work with a note from his doctor indicating only that he is "cleared to return to work." Because the employer has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that the employee will pose a direct threat due to a medical condition, it may ask the employee for additional documentation regarding his medication(s) or treatment or request that he submit to a medical examination. D. Periodic Testing and Monitoring In most instances, an employer's need to make disability-related inquiries or require medical examinations will be triggered by evidence of current performance problems or observable evidence suggesting that a particular employee will pose a direct threat. The following questions, however, address situations in which disability-related inquiries and medical examinations of employees may be permissible absent such evidence. 18. May employers require periodic medical examinations of employees in positions affecting public safety (e.g., police officers and firefighters)? Yes. In limited circumstances, periodic medical examinations of employees in positions affecting public safety that are narrowly tailored to address specific job-related concerns are permissible.(66) Example A: A fire department requires employees for whom firefighting is an essential job function to have a comprehensive visual examination every two years and to have an annual electrocardiogram because it is concerned that certain visual disorders and heart problems will affect their ability to do their job without posing a direct threat. These periodic medical examinations are permitted by the ADA. Example B: A police department may not periodically test all of its officers to determine whether they are HIV-positive because a diagnosis of that condition alone is not likely to result in an inability or impaired ability to perform essential functions that would result in a direct threat. Example C: A private security company may require its armed security officers who are expected to pursue and detain fleeing criminal suspects to have periodic blood pressure screenings and stress tests because it is concerned about the risk of harm to the public that could result if an officer has a sudden stroke. If an employer decides to terminate or take other adverse action against an employee with a disability based on the results of a medical examination, it must demonstrate that the employee is unable to perform his/her essential job functions or, in fact, poses a direct threat that cannot be eliminated or reduced by reasonable accommodation.(67) Therefore, when an employer discovers that an employee has a condition for which it lawfully may test as part of a periodic medical examination, it may make additional inquiries or require additional medical examinations that are necessary to determine whether the employee currently is unable to perform his/her essential job functions or poses a direct threat due to the condition. 19. May an employer subject an employee, who has been off from work in an alcohol rehabilitation program, to periodic alcohol testing when s/he returns to work? Yes, but only if the employer has a reasonable belief, based on objective evidence, that the employee will pose a direct threat in the absence of periodic testing. Such a reasonable belief requires an individualized assessment of the employee and his/her position and cannot be based on general assumptions. Employers also may conduct periodic alcohol testing pursuant to "last chance" agreements.(68) In determining whether to subject an employee to periodic alcohol testing (in the absence of a "last chance" agreement), the employer should consider the safety risks associated with the position the employee holds, the consequences of the employee's inability or impaired ability to perform his/her job functions, and how recently the event(s) occurred that cause the employer to believe that the employee will pose a direct threat (e.g., how long the individual has been an employee, when s/he completed rehabilitation, whether s/he previously has relapsed). Further, the duration and frequency of the testing must be designed to address particular safety concerns and should not be used to harass, intimidate, or retaliate against the employee because of his/her disability. Where the employee repeatedly has tested negative for alcohol, continued testing may not be job-related and consistent with business necessity because the employer no longer may have a reasonable belief that the employee will pose a direct threat. Example A: Three months after being hired, a city bus driver informed his supervisor of his alcoholism and requested leave to enroll in a rehabilitation program. The driver explained that he had not had a drink in more than 10 years until he recently started having a couple of beers before bed to deal with the recent separation from his wife. After four months of rehabilitation and counseling, the driver was cleared to return to work. Given the safety risks associated with the bus driver's position, his short period of employment, and recent completion of rehabilitation, the city can show that it would be job-related and consistent with business necessity to subject the driver to frequent periodic alcohol tests following his return to work. Example B: An attorney has been off from work in a residential alcohol treatment program for six weeks and has been cleared to return to work. Her supervisor wants to perform periodic alcohol tests to determine whether the attorney has resumed drinking. Assuming that there is no evidence that the attorney will pose a direct threat, the employer cannot show that periodic alcohol testing would be job-related and consistent with business necessity.(69) OTHER ACCEPTABLE DISABILITY-RELATED INQUIRIES AND MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS OF EMPLOYEES 20. May an Employee Assistance Program (EAP)(70) counselor ask an employee seeking help for personal problems about any physical or mental condition(s) s/he may have? Yes. An EAP counselor may ask employees about their medical condition(s) if s/he: (1) does not act for or on behalf of the employer; (2) is obligated to shield any information the employee reveals from decision makers; and, (3) has no power to affect employment decisions. Many employers contract with EAP counselors so that employees can voluntarily and confidentially seek professional counseling for personal or work-related problems without having to be concerned that their employment status will be affected because they sought help.(71) 21. May an employer make disability-related inquiries and require medical examinations that are required or necessitated by another federal law or regulation? Yes. An employer may make disability-related inquiries and require employees to submit to medical examinations that are mandated or necessitated by another federal law or regulation.(72) For example, under federal safety regulations, interstate bus and truck drivers must undergo medical examinations at least once every two years. Similarly, airline pilots and flight attendants must continually meet certain medical requirements.(73) Other federal laws that require medical examinations or medical inquiries of employees without violating the ADA include: •the Occupational Safety and Health Act;(74) •the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act;(75) and •other federal statutes that require employees exposed to toxic or hazardous substances to be medically monitored at specific intervals.(76) 22. May an employer make disability-related inquiries or conduct medical examinations that are part of its voluntary wellness program? Yes. The ADA allows employers to conduct voluntary medical examinations and activities, including voluntary medical histories, which are part of an employee health program without having to show that they are job-related and consistent with business necessity, as long as any medical records acquired as part of the wellness program are kept confidential and separate from personnel records.(77) These programs often include blood pressure screening, cholesterol testing, glaucoma testing, and cancer detection screening. Employees may be asked disability-related questions and may be given medical examinations pursuant to such voluntary wellness programs.(78) A wellness program is "voluntary" as long as an employer neither requires participation nor penalizes employees who do not participate. 23. May an employer ask employees to voluntarily self-identify as persons with disabilities for affirmative action purposes? Yes. An employer may ask employees to voluntarily self-identify as individuals with disabilities when the employer is: •undertaking affirmative action because of a federal, state, or local law (including a veterans' preference law) that requires affirmative action for individuals with disabilities (i.e., the law requires some action to be taken on behalf of such individuals); or, •voluntarily using the information to benefit individuals with disabilities.(79) If an employer invites employees to voluntarily self-identify in connection with the above-mentioned situations, the employer must indicate clearly and conspicuously on any written questionnaire used for this purpose, or state clearly (if no written questionnaire is used), that: (1) the specific information requested is intended for use solely in connection with its affirmative action obligations or its voluntary affirmative action efforts; and, (2) the specific information is being requested on a voluntary basis, that it will be kept confidential in accordance with the ADA, that refusal to provide it will not subject the employee to any adverse treatment, and that it will be used only in accordance with the ADA.(80) In order to invite self-identification for purposes of an affirmative action program that is voluntarily undertaken or undertaken pursuant to a law that encourages (rather than requires) affirmative action, an employer must be taking some action that actually benefits individuals with disabilities. The invitation to self-identify also must be necessary in order to provide the benefit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- INDEX Note: Page numbering and references removed for on-line version. Affirmative action Airline pilots Alcohol testing Application for new job Centers for Disease Control Confidentiality Direct threat Disability-related inquiry, defined Documentation conflicting insufficient requests for reasonable accommodation Employee Assistance Program (EAP) Employee, defined Employer's doctor Failure to respond to disability-related inquiry Failure to submit to medical examination Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) Firefighters Genetic information HIV Illegal use of drugs Information from another person Job-related and consistent with business necessity, defined Medical certification Medical examination, defined Performance problems Periodic medical examinations Periodic updates Police officers Pregnancy Prescription drugs and medications Procedures and tests blood analyses blood pressure screening breath analyses cholesterol testing diagnostic procedures hair analyses nerve conduction tests physical agility tests physical fitness tests polygraph examinations psychological tests pulmonary function tests range-of-motion tests saliva analyses urine analyses vision tests Public safety positions Reasonable accommodation Return to work Sick leave Voluntary self-identification Voluntary wellness program Workers' compensation ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1. 42 U.S.C. §§ 12101-12117, 12201-12213 (1994)(codified as amended). 2. Enforcement Guidance: Preemployment Disability-Related Questions and Medical Examinations Under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, 8 FEP Manual (BNA) 405:7191 (1995) [hereinafter Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations]. This and other ADA guidances are available through the Internet at http://www.eeoc.gov. 3. Pursuant to the Rehabilitation Act Amendment of 1992, the ADA's employment standards apply to all nonaffirmative action employment discrimination claims of individuals with disabilities who are federal employees or applicants for federal employment. Pub. L. No. 102-569 §503(b), 106 Stat. 4344, 4424 (1992) (codified as amended at 29 U.S.C. §791(g)(1994)). Accordingly, the analysis in the guidance applies to federal sector complaints of nonaffirmative action employment discrimination arising under section 501 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. It also applies to complaints of nonaffirmative action employment discrimination arising under section 503 and to employment discrimination under section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. Id. at §§793 (d), 794(d)(1994). 4. The purpose of this guidance is to explain when it is permissible for an employer to make a disability-related inquiry or require a medical examination of an employee. It does not focus on what actions an employer may take based on what it learns in response to such an inquiry or after it receives the result of a medical examination. 5. In the ADA legislative history, Congress stated that an employee's "actual performance on the job is, of course, the best measure of ability to do the job." S. Rep. No. 101-116, at 39 (1989); H.R. Rep. No. 101-485, pt. 2, at 75 (1990). 6. However, where an applicant has an obvious disability, and the employer has a reasonable belief that s/he will need a reasonable accommodation to perform specific job functions, the employer may ask whether the applicant needs a reasonable accommodation and, if so, what type of accommodation. These same two questions may be asked when an individual voluntarily discloses a nonvisible disability or voluntarily tells the employer that s/he will need a reasonable accommodation to perform a job. 42 U.S.C. §12112(c)(B)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.13(a)(1998); see also Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 6-8, 8 FEP at 405:7193-94; EEOC Enforcement Guidance on the Americans with Disabilities Act and Psychiatric Disabilities at 13-15, 8 FEP Manual (BNA) 405:7461, 7467-68 (1997)[hereinafter The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities]; Enforcement Guidance: Reasonable Accommodation and Undue Hardship Under the Americans with Disabilities Act at 20-21, 8 FEP Manual (BNA) 405:7601, 7611(1999)[hereinafter Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA]. Under certain circumstances, an employer also may ask applicants to self-identify as individuals with disabilities for purposes of its affirmative action program. See Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 12-13, 8 FEP at 405:7196-97. 7. 42 U.S.C. §12112(d)(3)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.14(b)(1998). However, if an individual is screened out because of a disability, the employer must show that the exclusionary criterion is job-related and consistent with business necessity. 42 U.S.C. §12112(b)(6)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §§1630.10, 1630.14(b)(3)(1998). 8. 42 U.S.C. §12112(d)(4)(A)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.14(c)(1998). 9. See infra note 77. 10. 42 U.S.C. §§12112(d)(3)(B), (4)(C)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.14(b)(1)(1998). The Commission also has interpreted the ADA to allow employers to disclose medical information to state workers' compensation offices, state second injury funds, workers' compensation insurance carriers, and to health care professionals when seeking advice in making reasonable accommodation determinations. 29 C.F.R. pt. 1630, app. §1630.14(b)(1998). Employers also may use medical information for insurance purposes. Id. See also Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 21-23, 8 FEP at 405:7201; EEOC Enforcement Guidance: Workers' Compensation and the ADA at 7, 8 FEP Manual (BNA) 405:7391, 7394 (1996)[hereinafter Workers' Compensation and the ADA]. 11. "Covered entity" means an employer, employment agency, labor organization, or joint labor management committee. 29 C.F.R. §1630.2(b)(1998). For simplicity, this guidance refers to all covered entities as "employers." The definition of "employer" includes persons who are "agents" of the employer, such as managers, supervisors, or others who act for the employer (e.g., agencies used to conduct background checks on applicants and employees). 42 U.S.C. §12111(5)(1994). 12. 42 U.S.C. §12112(d)(4)(A)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.14(c)(1998). See infra Question 5 and accompanying text for a discussion of what the "job-related and consistent with business necessity" standard means. 13. See e.g., 42 U.S.C. §12112(a)(1994)(no entity shall discriminate against a qualified individual with a disability because of the disability of such individual). 14. Congress was particularly concerned about questions that allowed employers to learn which employees have disabilities that are not apparent from observation. It concluded that the only way to protect employees with nonvisible disabilities is to prohibit employers from making disability-related inquiries and requiring medical examinations that are not job-related and consistent with business necessity. See S. Rep. No. 101-116 at 39-40 (1989); H.R. Rep. No. 101-485, pt. 2, at 75 (1990) ("An inquiry or medical examination that is not job-related serves no legitimate employer purpose, but simply serves to stigmatize the person with a disability." A person with cancer "may object merely to being identified, independent of the consequences [since] being identified as [a person with a disability] often carries both blatant and subtle stigma"). 15. See Roe v. Cheyenne Mountain Resort, 124 F.3d 1221, 1229, 7 AD Cas. (BNA) 779, 783 (10th Cir. 1997)("it makes little sense to require an employee to demonstrate that he has a disability to prevent his employer from inquiring as to whether or not he has a disability"). Although Roe involved only the issue of disability-related inquiries of employees, the same rationale applies to medical examinations of employees and to disability-related inquiries and medical examinations of applicants. The ADA's restrictions on disability-related inquiries and medical examinations apply to individuals both with and without disabilities at all three stages: pre-offer, post-offer, and during employment. See also Griffin v. Steeltek ,Inc., 160 F.3d 591, 595, 8 AD Cas.1249, 1252 (10th Cir. 1998), cert. denied, 119 S.Ct. 1455, 9 AD Cas. 416 (1999)(a job applicant without a disability can sue under the ADA regarding medical history questions); Gonzales v. Sandoval County, 2 F.Supp. 2d 1442, 1445, 8 AD Cas.1337, 1340 (D. N.M. 1998)(plaintiff need not establish disability to state a claim for a prohibited inquiry under the ADA); Fredenburg v. Contra Costa County Department of Health Services, 172 F.3d 1176, 9 AD Cas. 385 (9th Cir. 1999)(requiring plaintiffs to prove that they are persons with disabilities to challenge a medical examination would render §12112(d)(4)(A) of the ADA "nugatory"; thus, plaintiffs need not prove that they are qualified individuals with a disability to bring claims challenging the scope of medical examinations under the ADA). Some courts, however, have held that to bring a claim alleging a violation of the ADA's prohibition against disability-related inquiries and medical examinations, an individual must demonstrate that s/he is a qualified individual with a disability. See e.g., Armstrong v. Turner Industries, Inc., 141 F.3d 554, 558, 8 AD Cas. (BNA) 118, 124 (5th Cir. 1998), aff'g 950 F. Supp. 162, 7 AD Cas. 875 (M.D. La. 1996) (plaintiff must be a qualified individual with a disability to challenge an illegal preemployment inquiry); Hunter v. Habegger Corp., 139 F.3d 901(7th Cir. 1998)("it seems clear that in order to assert that one has been discriminated against because of an improper inquiry, that person must also have been otherwise qualified"). For the reasons stated above, it is the Commission's position that the plain language of the statute explicitly protects individuals with and without disabilities from improper disability-related inquiries and medical examinations. 16. For example, employers may make disability-related inquiries and require medical examinations that are required or necessitated by another federal law or regulation. See infra Question 21 and accompanying text. Employers also may make disability-related inquiries and conduct medical examinations that are part of their voluntary wellness programs. See infra Question 22 and accompanying text. 17. Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 4-13, 8 FEP at 405:7191, 7192-97. 18. Id. at 4, 8 FEP at 405:7192. 19. Id. at 4-13, 8 FEP at 405:7192-97. 20. The prohibition against making disability-related inquiries applies to inquiries made directly to an employee, as well as to indirect or surreptitious inquiries such as a search through an employee's belongings to confirm an employer's suspicions about an employee's medical condition. See Doe v. Kohn Nast & Graf, P.C., 866 F. Supp. 190, 3 AD Cas. (BNA) 1322 (E.D. Pa. 1994) (employer conducted an unlawful medical inquiry when it searched the office of an employee it knew was sick and discovered a letter indicating the employee had AIDS). 21. As used in this guidance, the term "genetic information" has the same definition as "protected genetic information" in Executive Order 13145. In general, genetic information is information about an individual's genetic tests, information about the genetic tests of an individual's family members, or information about the occurrence of a disease, medical condition, or disorder in family members of the individual. See Exec. Order No. 13,145, To Prohibit Discrimination in Federal Employment Based on Genetic Information, 65 Fed. Reg. 6877 (Feb. 8, 2000). 22. See Griffin v. Steeltek, Inc., 160 F.3d 591, 594, 8 AD Cas. (BNA) 1249, 1252 (10th Cir. 1998), cert. denied, 119 S.Ct. 1455, 9 AD. Cas. 416 (1999) (on its application for employment, employer unlawfully asked: "Have you received workers' compensation or disability payments? If yes, describe."). 23. See Roe v. Cheyenne Mountain Conference Resort, Inc., 124 F.3d 1221, 7 AD Cas. (BNA) 779 (10th Cir. 1997)(employer had a policy of requiring all employees to report every drug, including legal prescription drugs); Krocka v. Bransfield, 969 F. Supp. 1073 (N.D. Ill. 1997)(police department implemented a policy of monitoring employees taking psychotropic medication). 24. Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 9, 8 FEP at 405:7195. 25. Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 9, 8 FEP at 405:7195. 26. Employers also may maintain and enforce rules prohibiting employees from being under the influence of alcohol in the workplace and may conduct alcohol testing for this purpose if they have a reasonable belief that an employee may be under the influence of alcohol at work. 27. An individual who currently uses drugs illegally is not protected under the ADA; therefore, questions about current illegal drug use are not disability-related inquiries. 42 U.S.C. §12114(a)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.3(a)(1998). However, questions about past addiction to illegal drugs or questions about whether an employee ever has participated in a rehabilitation program are disability-related because past drug addiction generally is a disability. Individuals who were addicted to drugs, but are not currently using drugs illegally, are protected under the ADA. 29 C.F.R. §1630.3(b)(1),(2)(1998). 28. Pregnancy is not a disability for purposes of the ADA. 29 C.F.R. pt. 1630, app. §1630.2(h)(1998). However, discrimination on that basis may violate the Pregnancy Discrimination Act amendments to Title VII. 42 U.S.C. §2000e(k)(1994). 29. Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations supra note 2, at 14, 8 FEP at 405:7197. 30. Id. 31. See supra note 26. 32. See supra note 27. 33. Under the ADA, polygraph examinations, which purportedly measure whether a person believes s/he is telling the truth in response to a particular inquiry, are not medical examinations. However, an employer cannot ask disability-related questions as part of the examination. See Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 17, 8 FEP at 405:7199. 34. 42 U.S.C. §12111(4)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.2(f)(1998). This term has the same meaning as it does under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 42 U.S.C. §2000e(f)(1994). 35. In its guidance on contingent workers, the Commission lists additional factors that indicate when a worker is an employee and explains that other aspects of the relationship between the parties may affect the determination of whether an employee-employer relationship exists. See EEOC Enforcement Guidance: Application of EEO Laws to Contingent Workers Placed by Temporary Employment Agencies and Other Staffing Firms at 4-7, 8 FEP Manual (BNA) 405:7551, 7554-55 (1997). 36. An employee in this situation is an applicant with respect to rules concerning disability-related inquiries and medical examinations but not for employee benefits (e.g., retirement, health and life insurance, leave accrual) or other purposes. 37. Where the employer already has medical information concerning an individual at the pre-offer stage for the new position (e.g., information obtained in connection with the individual's request for reasonable accommodation in his/her current position) and this information causes the employer to have a reasonable belief that the individual will need a reasonable accommodation to perform the functions of the new job, the employer may ask what type of reasonable accommodation would be needed to perform the functions of the new job, before extending an offer for that job. An employer, however, may not use its knowledge of an applicant's disability to discriminate against him/her. The employer also may not use the fact that the individual will need a reasonable accommodation in the new position to deny him/her the new job unless it can show that providing the accommodation would cause an undue hardship. 38. 42 U.S.C. §12112(d)(3)(1994); 29 C.F.R. §1630.14(b)(1998). 39. "Direct threat" means a significant risk of substantial harm that cannot be eliminated or reduced by reasonable accommodation. 29 C.F.R. §1630.2(r)(1998). Direct threat determinations must be based on an individualized assessment of the individual's present ability to safely perform the essential functions of the job, considering a reasonable medical judgment relying on the most current medical knowledge and/or best available objective evidence. Id. To determine whether an employee poses a direct threat, the following factors should be considered: (1) the duration of the risk; (2) the nature and severity of the potential harm; (3) the likelihood that potential harm will occur; and, (4) the imminence of the potential harm. Id. 40. The Commission explained this standard in its enforcement guidance on The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 15, 8 FEP at 405:7468-69. 41. See infra Questions 18 and 19 and accompanying text. 42. See infra Question 6 and accompanying text. 43. See Yin v. State of California, 95 F.3d 864, 868, 5 AD Cas. (BNA) 1487, 1489 (9th Cir. 1996)(where employee missed an inordinate number of days and her performance declined, employer's request that she submit to a medical examination was job-related and consistent with business necessity). 44. See also infra Question 12. 45. 42 U.S.C. §12113 (d)(1994). 46. The most current list was published by HHS, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in 1998. 63 Fed.Reg. 49359 (Sept. 15, 1998). 47. But see EEOC v. Prevo's Family Market, Inc., 135 F.3d 1089, 1097, 8 AD Cas. (BNA) 401, 408 (6th Cir. 1998) (employer did not violate the ADA when it required a produce clerk, who claimed to be HIV-positive, to submit to a medical examination to determine whether he posed a direct threat). The Commission believes that Prevo's was wrongly decided because the employer did not base its belief that the employee posed a direct threat on reasonably available objective evidence and, therefore, its request that the employee submit to a medical examination was not job-related and consistent with business necessity. A number of sources, such as the Centers for Disease Control (www.cdc.gov), a physician or health care provider knowledgeable about HIV and other infectious diseases, a state or local health department, a public or university library, or a state or county medical association can provide information about the likelihood of an employee transmitting HIV or other infectious diseases to co-workers or the public. 48. This guidance does not affect the obligation of a physician, under any state law, to report cases of active tuberculosis to appropriate public health authorities. 49. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 14-15, 8 FEP at 405:7608 for examples of other situations where employers may ask for documentation; see also id. at 16-17, 8 FEP at 405: 7609 for examples of situations in which an employer cannot ask for documentation in response to a request for reasonable accommodation. 50. 29 C.F.R. pt. 1630 app. §1630.9 (1998); see also Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 6, 8 FEP at 405: 7193; ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 22-23, 8 FEP at 405:7472-73; Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 12-13, 8 FEP at 405: 7607. See also Templeton v. Neodata Services, Inc., 162 F.3d 617, 618, 8 AD Cas. (BNA) 1615, 1616 (10th Cir. 1998)(employer's request for updated medical information was reasonable in light of treating physician's letter indicating doubt as to employee's ability to return to work as scheduled, and employer needed the requested information to determine appropriate reasonable accommodation for employee in event she was able to return to work). 51. See Roe v. Cheyenne Mountain Conference Resort, 124 F.3d 1221, 1229, 7 AD Cas. (BNA) 779, 784 (10th Cir. 1997) (employer, who implemented a drug and alcohol policy that included many permissible inquiries but also asked employees to inform the employer of every drug they were taking, including legal prescription drugs, violated the ADA by failing to demonstrate that this inquiry was job-related and consistent with business necessity). 52. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 15, 8 FEP at 405:7608. 53. See id. at 13, 8 FEP at 405:7607. (An "employer may require only the documentation that is needed to establish that a person has an ADA disability, and that the disability necessitates a reasonable accommodation." If an employee has more than one disability, an employer can request information pertaining only to the disability for which the employee is requesting an accommodation.) 54. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 14-15, 16-17, 8 FEP at 405:7607-09. If the employee subsequently should request another reasonable accommodation related to his sickle cell anemia, the employer may ask for reasonable documentation relating to the new request (if the need is not obvious). The employer, however, cannot ask again for documentation that the employee has an ADA disability where the medical information the employee provided in support of his first reasonable accommodation request established the existence of a long-term impairment that substantially limits a major life activity. Id. at 16-17, 8 FEP at 405: 7609. 55. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 15-16, 8 FEP at 405:7698; The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 23, 8 FEP at 405:7473. 56. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 15, 8 FEP at 405:7608. 57. Since a doctor cannot disclose information about a patient without his/her permission, an employer must obtain a release from the employee that will permit the doctor to answer questions. The release should be clear as to what information will be requested. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 13-14, 8 FEP at 405:7607. 58. Id. at 15, 8 FEP at 405:7608-09. 59. Id. at 16, 8 FEP at 405:7609; The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 23, 8 FEP at 405:7473. 60. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 15 (n.30), 8 FEP at 405:7609. 61. 29 C.F.R. §1630.2(r)(1998). 62. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 16, 8 FEP at 405:7609; The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 23, 8 FEP at 405:7473. 63. See Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 16, 8 FEP at 405:7198. 64. The questions and answers in this section address situations in which an employee has used sick, annual, or some other kind of leave because of a medical condition, but has not taken leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA). 29 U.S.C. §2601(1994). Where an employee has been on leave under the FMLA, the employer must comply with the requirements of that statute. For example, the FMLA generally does not authorize an employer to make its own determination of whether an employee is fit to return to work but, rather, states that the employer must rely on the evaluation done by the employee's own health care provider. Id. at §2613(b). 65. See Reasonable Accommodation Under the ADA, supra note 6, at 57, 8 FEP at 405:7632. 66. See The ADA and Psychiatric Disabilities, supra note 6, at 16 (n.41), 8 FEP at 405:7469. 67. See supra note 39. 68. Some employers, including some federal government agencies, commonly use "last chance agreements" in disciplinary actions involving employee use of alcohol. Such agreements typically provide that, as a condition of continued employment, employees must enter into a rehabilitation program and submit to periodic alcohol testing. 69. The employer, however, may require the attorney to submit to an alcohol test if it has objective evidence that she is violating a workplace policy prohibiting all employees from being under the influence of alcohol on the job. See supra note 26. 70. Generally, EAPs are confidential programs designed to assist employees in coping with personal issues (e.g., substance abuse, grief) that may interfere with their job performance. 71. See Vardiman v. Ford Motor Co., 981 F. Supp. 1279, 1283, 7 AD Cas. (BNA) 1068, 1072 (E.D. Mo. 1997)(EAP representative had no power to affect employment decisions and, in fact, was obligated to shield the decision makers from an employee's personal or substance abuse problems). 72. 29 C.F.R. 1630.15(e)(1998)("it may be a defense to a charge of discrimination . . . that a challenged action is required or necessitated by another Federal law or regulation . . . ."). 73. See e.g., 14 C.F.R. pt. 67(1999)(Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of Transportation (DOT) medical certifications); 14 C.F.R. pt. 121, app. I (1999)(FAA and DOT drug testing program); 49 C.F.R. pt. 40 and app. (1999)(procedures for transportation workplace drug testing programs); 49 C.F.R. 240.207(1996)(Federal Railroad Administration and DOT procedures for making determination on hearing and visual acuity); 49 C.F.R. pt. 391(1999)(Federal Highway Administration and DOT medical certification requirements); 49 C.F.R. pt. 653(1999)(Federal Transit Administration (FTA) procedures for prevention of prohibited drug use in transit operations); 49 C.F.R. pt. 654(1999)(FTA procedures for prevention of alcohol abuse in transit operations). 74. 29 U.S.C. §§651-678 (1994). 75. 30 U.S.C. §§801-962 (1994). 76. See e.g., The Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act, 42 U.S.C. §9601(1994). 77. See H.R. Rep. No. 101-485, pt. 2, at 75 (1990) ("As long as the programs are voluntary and the medical records are maintained in a confidential manner and not used for the purpose of limiting health insurance eligibility or preventing occupational advancement, these activities would fall within the purview of accepted activities."). 78. If a program simply promotes a healthier life style but does not ask any disability-related questions or require medical examinations (e.g., a smoking cessation program that is available to anyone who smokes and only asks participants to disclose how much they smoke), it is not subject to the ADA's requirements concerning disability-related inquiries and medical examinations. 79. See Preemployment Questions and Medical Examinations, supra note 2, at 12, 8 FEP at 405:7196-97. 80. Id. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This page was last modified on March 24, 2005. Home Return to Home Page -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Richardson Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:06 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Employment Discrimination? Hi all, I was hired as a preschool tutor with the Minnesota Reading Corps (an AmeriCorps affiliate). They work with different sites to hire tutors. They have trained me and payed me, but when it came time for me to start working they delayed my start and barred me from showing up at the site. I have requested Braille as an accommodation and said that I can provide the Braille myself. I would use dymo tape on flash cards and books. The following paragraph is from an email from the > "I understand Kay Tellinghuisen of The Family Partnership (TFP) has been working with you to place a Reading Corps member. Because of the work conditions which are presented at TFP for this position and the visual impairment of your member, we are requesting your further help to ensure the safety and success for all." To this emailthere was a document attached titled "ADA Medical Provider Report." As I understand I am under no obligation to fill out this form. Is that correct? It is obvious the need for accommodations. What are my legal obligations? What do you suggest I do next? Respectfully, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.ne t From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 13 02:30:44 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:30:44 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 13 02:43:24 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:43:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <000301ceaff9$e22a65f0$a67f31d0$@wiennergould.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <000301ceaff9$e22a65f0$a67f31d0$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <00d601ceb02b$058704a0$10950de0$@sbcglobal.net> Daniel: Are you swiping from top to bottom or bottom to top; left to right or right to left; 2 fingers or 3? Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:52 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I usually get it to work by swiping across the screen a couple of times. It works, but takes a bit. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rfarber at jw.com Fri Sep 13 03:19:09 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:19:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From taiablas at gmail.com Fri Sep 13 04:41:30 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:41:30 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <02b301ceb03b$8454c4b0$8cfe4e10$@gmail.com> I have had luck placing my finger toward the top middle of the screen and swiping with one finger to the right. I don't remember the order of the buttons, but after very few swipes, I get to the keypad button, double tap it, and the numbers come up. Tai -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. 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(CMS/OSORA)) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:08:34 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Announcement of Md. Department of Disab. on 8 Oct. W.C.L. Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15634E@pl-emsmb12> Dialogue on Accessibility of the Cultural Institutions The Mid-Atlantic Lyceum is sponsoring "Access to Cultural Arts and Institutions" a forum at American University Washington College of Law on October 8, 2013 from 6 to 8:15 p.m. Featured speakers include Gary C. Norman, Co-founder of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and Co-founder of its Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy; Betty Siegel, Director of VSA and Accessibility at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts; Beth Ziebarth, Director of the Smithsonian Institution Accessibility Program; Adeen Postar, Deputy Director of the Pence Law Library and Adjunct Professor and Day Al Mohamed, screen writer and anthology editor. For more information contact the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum at 410-241-6745. Registration is required. 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Scott Johnson, Ober|Kaler Hope Tipton, Circuit Court for Baltimore City Wilhelm Joseph, Maryland Legal Aid Gregory Wells, Circuit Court for Calvert County Franklin Lee, Tydings & Rosenberg LLP JoAnne Zawitoski, Semmes, Bowen & Semmes From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 13 14:07:47 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:07:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <000001ceb08a$a0c7d7f0$e25787d0$@sbcglobal.net> Randy: Yes, I am using voice over on an I 4. An earlier post said something about a keyboard link in the middle of the screen, but I do not seem to be able to find it. Dan -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com Fri Sep 13 14:47:00 2013 From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russ Thomas) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:47:00 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <000001ceb08a$a0c7d7f0$e25787d0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <000001ceb08a$a0c7d7f0$e25787d0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <004e01ceb090$1ac80b60$50582220$@com> You can buy a keyboard that fits under the Iphone; I purchased one for around $20.00. This makes the use of this device somewhwat easier. One man's opinion -- if the Iphone is apple's view of technology for the blind community, we are all in trouble. Microsoft recently purchased Nokia; help may be on the way! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:08 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Randy: Yes, I am using voice over on an I 4. An earlier post said something about a keyboard link in the middle of the screen, but I do not seem to be able to find it. Dan -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor ney.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Sep 13 16:41:48 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Message-ID: <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From tim at timeldermusic.com Fri Sep 13 16:45:55 2013 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (Tim Elder) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:45:55 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment Discrimination? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01c901ceb0a0$b8eda100$2ac8e300$@timeldermusic.com> Hi Jordan, I'm happy to talk with you more about this off list. But legal opinions and privileged/confidential communications should not be discussed publically on this list. Anyone, including your employer's attorneys, can review the contents of this forum. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Richardson [mailto:lilrichie411 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Employment Discrimination? Hi all, I was hired as a preschool tutor with the Minnesota Reading Corps (an AmeriCorps affiliate). They work with different sites to hire tutors. They have trained me and payed me, but when it came time for me to start working they delayed my start and barred me from showing up at the site. I have requested Braille as an accommodation and said that I can provide the Braille myself. I would use dymo tape on flash cards and books. The following paragraph is from an email from the > "I understand Kay Tellinghuisen of The Family Partnership (TFP) has been working with you to place a Reading Corps member. Because of the work conditions which are presented at TFP for this position and the visual impairment of your member, we are requesting your further help to ensure the safety and success for all." To this emailthere was a document attached titled "ADA Medical Provider Report." As I understand I am under no obligation to fill out this form. Is that correct? It is obvious the need for accommodations. What are my legal obligations? What do you suggest I do next? Respectfully, Jordan Richardson Sent from my iPad From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Sep 13 17:48:14 2013 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:48:14 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Sep 13 17:54:17 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:54:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> Message-ID: <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Sep 13 18:05:48 2013 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Daniel K. Beitz) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:05:48 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <002d01ceb0ab$e0472c20$a0d58460$@wiennergould.com> I agree with Shannon. The usability of adaptive products is essential to a successful legal career, and tips and tricks for using these products are of interest to most of us on this list serve. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Sep 13 18:14:09 2013 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:14:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <002d01ceb0ab$e0472c20$a0d58460$@wiennergould.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> <002d01ceb0ab$e0472c20$a0d58460$@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <000001ceb0ad$0b2be560$2183b020$@com> Hi again folks, It has occurred to me that, for quite possibly the first time in my life, I am in the wrong and have committed an error in judgment. (That was a joke, in case anyone wondered.) I honestly meant my prior message more as a public service and not at all as a personal rant. Shannon's and Dan's comments have caused me to realize that I perhaps should have considered the discussion in a broader context. In any event, I made the remarks and I now retract them. The last thing I intended was to generate a philosophical or personal debate that would take up even more of people's time and attention. Let's put it to bed, and I do apologize for any personal offense that I may have caused anyone. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:06 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I agree with Shannon. The usability of adaptive products is essential to a successful legal career, and tips and tricks for using these products are of interest to most of us on this list serve. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com From rfarber at jw.com Fri Sep 13 18:55:16 2013 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:55:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <000001ceb08a$a0c7d7f0$e25787d0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <000001ceb08a$a0c7d7f0$e25787d0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20D0035CABF@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> Dan - I have an I5 so voice over might be different, but on my phone if I turn my keypad off, then about halfway down I have a row of buttons from right to left they are - mute, keypad, and speaker. Below that line is another line of three buttons - add a call, face time, and contacts. I have to locate the keypad button, touch it to highlight it and then double click it. That then takes me back to the keypad. Hope this helps, Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:08 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Randy: Yes, I am using voice over on an I 4. An earlier post said something about a keyboard link in the middle of the screen, but I do not seem to be able to find it. Dan -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 13 19:05:37 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:05:37 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <00c501ceb0b4$3c6be970$b543bc50$@sbcglobal.net> Shannon: Amen! Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 13 19:07:48 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:07:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <000001ceb0ad$0b2be560$2183b020$@com> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> <002d01ceb0ab$e0472c20$a0d58460$@wiennergould.com> <000001ceb0ad$0b2be560$2183b020$@com> Message-ID: <00cd01ceb0b4$8a0fb490$9e2f1db0$@sbcglobal.net> Andrew: Amen! Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:14 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Hi again folks, It has occurred to me that, for quite possibly the first time in my life, I am in the wrong and have committed an error in judgment. (That was a joke, in case anyone wondered.) I honestly meant my prior message more as a public service and not at all as a personal rant. Shannon's and Dan's comments have caused me to realize that I perhaps should have considered the discussion in a broader context. In any event, I made the remarks and I now retract them. The last thing I intended was to generate a philosophical or personal debate that would take up even more of people's time and attention. Let's put it to bed, and I do apologize for any personal offense that I may have caused anyone. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:06 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I agree with Shannon. The usability of adaptive products is essential to a successful legal career, and tips and tricks for using these products are of interest to most of us on this list serve. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Sep 13 19:10:58 2013 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:10:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <00cd01ceb0b4$8a0fb490$9e2f1db0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <001401ceaff6$ba7330d0$2f599270$@wiennergould.com> <005101ceaff8$df94bc60$9ebe3520$@sbgaal.com> <00d001ceb029$4099ebe0$c1cdc3a0$@sbcglobal.net> <3E86A9F3DC676742B192213CC4E9D4A20C8AD4D24F@PDC-MAIL02.jwllp.com> <014e01ceb0a0$24b4fce0$6e1ef6a0$@sbgaal.com> <00dd01ceb0a9$6c6b3550$45419ff0$@com> <018501ceb0aa$450b2410$cf216c30$@sbgaal.com> <002d01ceb0ab$e0472c20$a0d58460$@wiennergould.com> <000001ceb0ad$0b2be560$2183b020$@com> <00cd01ceb0b4$8a0fb490$9e2f1db0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01c901ceb0b4$fb821050$f28630f0$@sbgaal.com> No problem Andrew Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:08 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Andrew: Amen! Dan McBride -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:14 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Hi again folks, It has occurred to me that, for quite possibly the first time in my life, I am in the wrong and have committed an error in judgment. (That was a joke, in case anyone wondered.) I honestly meant my prior message more as a public service and not at all as a personal rant. Shannon's and Dan's comments have caused me to realize that I perhaps should have considered the discussion in a broader context. In any event, I made the remarks and I now retract them. The last thing I intended was to generate a philosophical or personal debate that would take up even more of people's time and attention. Let's put it to bed, and I do apologize for any personal offense that I may have caused anyone. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:06 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I agree with Shannon. The usability of adaptive products is essential to a successful legal career, and tips and tricks for using these products are of interest to most of us on this list serve. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I would respectfully disagree. When I try to contact witnesses; use the phone in court to do voir dire and many other things related to being an attorney, it is critical to my career to be able to use these adaptive aids effectively. This list serve is a valuable resource for us to be able to share ideas and experiences with each other so that we can practice more effectively. If you know how to use all of your adaptive aids effectively then I am happy for you, but it doesn't take much to press the delete button if you do not wish to review the e-mails of those of us who haven't achieved your level of technical prowess. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:48 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I'd like to humbly request that list members be mindful of posting queries and introducing topics on the list that have little, if anything, to do with the list's purposes. While touching on a source of vexation for many of us, the original question regarding iPhone accessibility and navigation not only had nothing to do with law or legal practice for blind professionals, it also invited a long chain of comments and ideas that were equally unrelated to the intended function of the list. There are resources for finding this kind of information online, and, I'm sure, list serves that are dedicated to this sort of discussion, but this list is not the place. An ongoing short-form discussion of this nature tends to be distracting, annoying, and time-consuming, especially for those of us using screen readers. This becomes even more true with the posting of substanceless comments such as "yes" and "thank you." I don't mean to strike a surly tone, but I would be grateful if folks would bear these points in mind going forward. Best regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question yes Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, Randy Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon and Daniel - I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Shannon: I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was initiating the call through Serie. So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. I cannot figure it out. I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. Dan Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79423 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question Buy an IPhone. They work great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI 48307 Phone: (248) 841-9405 Fax: (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search through google etc. Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. I've been humbled by a cell phone. Ross My direct email to respond to is: rumpole at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sat Sep 14 05:14:54 2013 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:14:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question Message-ID: <20130914051454.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> I know that works for making the call. But does it work for everything thereafter: such as, "Press 1 for English." Or, "Please enter your account number now." I have one that works for making the initial call, but not thereafter. So I cannot use it for checking my bank or credit card balance by phone, or checking my work or home voicemail from my cell phone, etc. Ray ----- Original Message ----- ,f3 ,russ ,?omas ,to3 8',bl ,law ,mail+ ,li/'0 , Date: Friday, Sep 13, 2013 10:48:23 AM Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > > You can buy a keyboard that fits under the Iphone; I purchased one for > around $20.00. This makes the use of this device somewhwat easier. > > One man's opinion �� > if the Iphone is apple's view of technology for the blind community, we are > all in trouble. Microsoft recently purchased Nokia; help may be on the way! > > > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:08 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Randy: > > Yes, I am using voice over on an I 4. An earlier post said something about > a keyboard link in the middle of the screen, but I do not seem to be able to > find it. > > Dan > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, > Randy > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Shannon and Daniel - > > I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. > My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to turn on > the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad starts out > hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? > > Randy > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Shannon: > > I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I was > initiating the call through Serie. > > So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and > initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not get the > keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. > > I cannot figure it out. > > I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He couldn't > get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store where I purchased > it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless someone here has an answer, > I figure we're flat S O L. > > > > Dan > Fort Worth > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, or 2 or > something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull up and allow > me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? > > Thanks! > > Sincerely, > > Shannon Geihsler > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 > Lubbock, Texas 79423 > Phone: (806) 763-3999 > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > Fax: (806) 749-3752 @> ;,e-,mail3 sbg at sbgaal.com > > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or > attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express > permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete all copies. > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. > Beitz > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Buy an IPhone. They work great. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 @> dbeitz at wiennergould.com > @> www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual > responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any > of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly > prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify > us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us > at (248) 841-9400. > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross Doerr > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [bllaw] Technical question > > This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it would > please answer me off list I would appreciate it. > Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know how > to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? > I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online search > through google etc. > Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is easier to > navigate than this online android options stuff is. > I've been humbled by a cell phone. > Ross > My direct email to respond to is: @> rumpole at roadrunner.com > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Sun Sep 15 18:58:31 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:58:31 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price Message-ID: Hi all, I was talking to law pay about how easy it was for my firm to accept credit cards, and how as a blind attorney it was a very good secure way to make sure I am receiving all of the funds that the client should pay. 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Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1681 bytes Desc: image005.jpg URL: From taiablas at gmail.com Mon Sep 16 00:51:59 2013 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:51:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Technical question In-Reply-To: <20130914051454.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> References: <20130914051454.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <048101ceb276$f3e5c5d0$dbb15170$@gmail.com> But you can swipe until you find the keypad button, double tap, and the dial pad will come up on the touchscreen. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ray wayne Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:15 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Technical question I know that works for making the call. But does it work for everything thereafter: such as, "Press 1 for English." Or, "Please enter your account number now." I have one that works for making the initial call, but not thereafter. So I cannot use it for checking my bank or credit card balance by phone, or checking my work or home voicemail from my cell phone, etc. Ray ----- Original Message ----- ,f3 ,russ ,?omas ,to3 8',bl ,law ,mail+ ,li/'0 , Date: Friday, Sep 13, 2013 10:48:23 AM Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > > You can buy a keyboard that fits under the Iphone; I purchased one for > around $20.00. This makes the use of this device somewhwat easier. > > One man's opinion  > if the Iphone is apple's view of technology for the blind community, > we are all in trouble. Microsoft recently purchased Nokia; help may be on the way! > > > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:08 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Randy: > > Yes, I am using voice over on an I 4. An earlier post said something > about a keyboard link in the middle of the screen, but I do not seem > to be able to find it. > > Dan > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Farber, > Randy > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:19 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Shannon and Daniel - > > I use the iPhone 5 with voice over and my phone works the other way. > My keyboard automatically appears and I have a problem hiding it to > turn on the speaker. My wife does not use voice over and her keypad > starts out hidden like yours. Are you using voice over? > > Randy > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:31 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Shannon: > > I have the same problem. At first, I thought it might be because I > was initiating the call through Serie. > > So, I tested the process of entering on phone, selecting keyboard and > initiating the call through the keyboard numbers. I still could not > get the keypad to display so I can enter 1 to continue in English. > > I cannot figure it out. > > I have a relative who is a computer/Apple I phone professional. He > couldn't get it to work either. I then took it to the AT&T store > where I purchased it; they couldn't get it to work either. Unless > someone here has an answer, I figure we're flat S O L. > > > > Dan > Fort Worth > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:44 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > I have an I-Phone and when I make a call and it wants me to press 1, > or 2 or something; I have a heck of a time getting the keypad to pull > up and allow me to press the no. Does anyone know a solution to this problem? > > Thanks! > > Sincerely, > > Shannon Geihsler > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 > Lubbock, Texas 79423 > Phone: (806) 763-3999 > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > Fax: (806) 749-3752 @> ;,e-,mail3 sbg at sbgaal.com > > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged > and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended > recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or > forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. > Beitz > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Technical question > > Buy an IPhone. They work great. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 @> dbeitz at wiennergould.com > @> www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email > messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the > individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying > to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > @> -----Original Message----- > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross > Doerr > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:19 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [bllaw] Technical question > > This is not a legal question, so if someone who knows the answer to it > would please answer me off list I would appreciate it. > Do any of you with a recently purchased Android Galaxy cell phone know > how to set it up so that I can answer incoming calls by voice command? > I thought that I could find the answer myself by doing an online > search through google etc. > Well, let me tell you that the Medicaid law and its regulations is > easier to navigate than this online android options stuff is. > I've been humbled by a cell phone. > Ross > My direct email to respond to is: @> rumpole at roadrunner.com > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas%40emplmntattor > ney.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list @> blindlaw at nfbnet.org @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: @> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Sep 17 17:08:59 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:08:59 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Braille Literacy = Drinks on a Beautiful Beech? Message-ID: <038001ceb3c8$9a2721d0$ce756570$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings my Federation Friends: All of us on this list have a multitude of reasons to be thankful to the NFB. For me, The Federation has played a major role in allowing me to become a successful attorney and otherwise lead a full and enriching life. Please join me in supporting the Federation by participating in the NFB of Colorado's Amazing Vacation Travel Raffle. It's easy to do. What can you win? A $3500.00 travel gift certificate to a travel agency. Any one in the world can win this certificate to travel anywhere in the world. You don't even have to use it all at once. You can break it up inot a few trips and related travel purchases from the agency. What is the cost? The cost of one ticket is $10 and you can get three for $20. How do you purchase tickets? Please go to www.nfbco.org and click on the vacation travel raffle link and follow the instructions from there What does this fundraiser support? It supports our college scholarship program for blind students and our braille literacy program called BELL for blind youth. When is the drawing? It will take place on Saturday, October 19, 2013, at the NFB of Colorado's Annual Banquet. You need not be present to win. Again, please go to www.nfbco.org and purchase your tickets. Thanks to all tose who have already supported this program! Scott C. LaBarre, President National Federation of the Blind of Colorado P.S. I apologize if you have received this mailing a couple of times due to the fact that some email addresses are on a few different lists. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Sep 17 22:10:46 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:10:46 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Please post/forward for ACLU, Sponsored Disability Rights Fellowship [CE-07] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <048101ceb3f2$c2c71e90$48555bb0$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: hrintern2 [mailto:hrintern2 at aclu.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:08 PM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Please post/forward for ACLU, Sponsored Disability Rights Fellowship [CE-07] September 17, 2013 FALL 2014 FELLOWSHIP OPPORTUNITY SPONSORED DISABILITY RIGHTS FELLOWSHIP EQUALITY [CE-07] NOTICE TO THIRD-YEAR LAW STUDENTS AND RECENT GRADUATES American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Equality Center, Disability Rights, SF For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country’s largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists, and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Equality Center – Disability Rights Section of the ACLU’s National Office in New York City and San Francisco seeks applicants for a sponsored fellowship, such as Skadden, Liman and other public interest fellowships, beginning in the Fall of 2014. OVERVIEW The ACLU has a long history of defending the rights of people with disabilities. It played a major role in securing passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act. The ACLU has battled discrimination against persons with HIV/AIDS and stood up for the voting rights of persons with disabilities in the ongoing debate over electoral reform. It has fought to obtain adequate health care and access to services for prisoners with disabilities across the country. The ACLU also established the right to treatment for persons with mental illness who are involuntarily committed. The ACLU’s Disability Rights work has three priority areas: voting, education, and Olmstead issues. For this fellowship, the Equality Center is particularly interested in sponsoring a fellow to work on reducing the use of Restraint & Seclusion in public schools. The project would combine outreach, parent and school education and training, and incorporating legislative and litigation efforts as well. The Center will work with a candidate to develop proposals related to the project on an accelerated timeline. ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES In addition to developing proposals for funding, the fellow will participate in education, outreach, and potential litigation at the state and federal level, including but not limited to: * Conducting legal and factual research; * Interviewing clients; * Drafting briefs and pleadings, and amicus curiae briefs; * Assisting in discovery and motion practice; * Providing support for ACLU affiliate litigation; * Serving as a resource for ACLU legislative and policy work; * Advancing ACLU policy goals through public education, organizing and participating in coalitions. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS * J.D. degree or anticipated law school graduation by the Fall of 2014. · Knowledge of legal issues involving disability rights, discrimination, education and Special Education preferred, but not required. * Skilled at complex legal analytical work. * Demonstrated commitment to public interest law. * Excellent research, writing and verbal communication skills. * Proven ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Self‑motivated and able to manage a variety of tasks. * Excellent computer skills including knowledge of Microsoft Office Suite. * Commitment to the mission and goals of the ACLU and advancing disability rights. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers a generous and comprehensive compensation and benefits package, commensurate with experience and within parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Applicants should send a cover letter, a resume, two letters of recommendation, a legal writing sample, and a law school transcript via e-mail to: hrjobsCE at aclu.org –reference [SPONSORED DISABILITY RIGHTS FELLOWSHIP EQUALITY [CE-07] FALL 2014 /INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Equality Center – Disability Rights Section postings. In order to ensure your application is received please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Human Resources American Civil Liberties Union Foundation [Re: SPONSORED DISABILITY RIGHTS FELLOWSHIP CE-07/ INCL] 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you found this career opportunity. We encourage applicants to send materials as soon as possible. Applications will be accepted on a rolling basis until a decision is made. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and/or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobsINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name “ACLU.” From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 18 14:22:18 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:22:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder of Oct. 8 Panel at Wash. College of L.: Publicize Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15769A@pl-emsmb12> [,A DIALOGUE ON ACCESSIBILITY OF THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS Mid-Atlantic Lyceum Fall Repast and Repartee Series] Do note the forthcoming date, sharing with your network. October 8, 2013 6:00 pm - 8:15 pm American University Washington College of Law 4801 Massachusetts Avenue, NW, Room 603, Washington, D.C. 20016 Repast and Repartee Series: Access to Cultural Arts and Institutions Like no other point in history, people with disabilities are more visible in civil society, inclusive of our cultural arts as well as our frivolities, such as television. The fall, 2013, line-up on television will include more people with disabilities as characters than ever before. In the District, institutions like the Kennedy Center, the Shakespeare Theatre, and the Smithsonian have more audio description than has ever been a reality for people with sensory disabilities. Whether it is the Americans with Disabilities Act or the convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, there are more legal frameworks than ever before, yet more work is needed to make civil rights of people with disabilities, including, their assistance dogs, a reality. The Lyceum is thusly honored that a reception will occur in the month of October to celebrate disability awareness and to advance the mission of the Lyceum of bringing people together to discuss public policy. This will be a facilitated presentation and community forum on these issues with a transcript to be published possibly in the Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy in its third issue. Featured Speakers and Facilitators Remarks by Master of Ceremony and co-facilitator -- Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M., Co-founder of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and Co-founder of its Mid-Atlantic Journal on Law and Public Policy Betty Siegel, Esq., Director of VSA and Accessibility at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Beth Ziebarth, Director of the Smithsonian Institution Accessibility Program Adeen Postar, Esq. Deputy Director of the Pence Law Library and Adjunct Professor Discussant and facilitator - Day Al Mohamed, Esq., Screen Writer and Anthology Editor Supporters Program on Law and Government, Washington College of Law Maryland Department of Disabilities Maryland Bar Foundation The Animals and Society Institute Museum of Maritime Pets Maryland Animal Law Center For more information, please do not hesitate to contact the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum at (410) 241-6745 Registration is free but required - please go to www.wcl.american.edu/secle/registration. For assistance, please contact: Office of Special Events & Continuing Legal Education, 202.274.4075 or secle at wcl.american.edu. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image007.png Type: image/png Size: 31656 bytes Desc: image007.png URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 18 17:50:35 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:50:35 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Jobs] FW: Please Post/Forward ACLU SPT-11 Staff Attorney Opportunity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:45 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Please Post/Forward ACLU SPT-11 Staff Attorney Opportunity From: hrintern [mailto:hrintern at aclu.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:05 AM To: Maurer, Patricia Subject: Please Post/Forward ACLU SPT-11 Staff Attorney Opportunity September 16, 2013 CAREER OPPORTUNITY Staff Attorney [SPT-11] American Civil Liberties Union Foundation Speech, Privacy and Technology Project, NY For more than 93 years, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation (ACLU) has been at the forefront of virtually every major battle for civil liberties and equal justice in this country. Principled and nonpartisan, the ACLU has offices in all 50 states, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico, and brings together the country's largest team of public interest lawyers, lobbyists, communication strategists and members and activists in the advancement of equality, fairness, and freedom, especially for the most vulnerable in our society. The Speech, Privacy and Technology (SPT) Project of the ACLU's National office in New York City seeks applications for the full-time position of Staff Attorney. OVERVIEW The Speech, Privacy and Technology Project is part of the ACLU's Center for Democracy, which works to strengthen democratic institutions and values, including the values of government transparency and accountability, and to reinforce the United States' commitment to human rights and the rule of law. The Center for Democracy includes - in addition to the Speech, Privacy and Technology Project - the Human Rights Project and the National Security Project, and also works closely with staff from the ACLU's Communications Department, Affiliate Support and Advocacy Department, and Washington Legislative Office. The Speech, Privacy and Technology Project is dedicated to protecting and expanding the First Amendment freedoms of expression, association, and inquiry; expanding the right to privacy and increasing the control that individuals have over their personal information; and ensuring that civil liberties are enhanced rather than compromised by new advances in science and technology. The Project is currently litigating cases and conducting other advocacy efforts on a variety of issues, including political protest, freedom of expression online, privacy of electronic information, journalists' rights, scientific freedom, and openness in the courts. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES The Staff Attorney will contribute to all aspects of the Project's litigation and non-litigation work, including: * Litigating free speech, privacy, and technology-related civil liberties cases in trial and appellate courts. * Developing new cases and non-litigation advocacy projects relating to free speech, privacy, technology, and civil liberties. * Managing case development and conducting client and witness interviews. * Serving as a resource for ACLU legislative and policy work, and advancing ACLU policy goals through public education, organizing, and participating in coalitions. * Developing and writing advocacy materials for audiences comprised of lawyers and non-lawyers. * Conducting legal research and writing legal memoranda. * Analyzing legislation for potential litigation. * Communicating with the media about the work of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy and Technology Project and the work of the ACLU more generally. * Collaborating with other staff of the Speech, Privacy and Technology Project and across the organization including other Projects within the ACLU's Legal Department, Communications, Affiliate Support and Advocacy, the Washington Legislative Office, and state affiliates. * Supervising legal fellows and law students. * Travel for various coalition meetings and conferences is required. EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS The applicant must possess the following qualifications: * A J.D. degree and a minimum of seven years of litigation experience, preferably including experience litigating cases involving free speech, privacy, technology, and civil liberties issues. * A demonstrated commitment to public interest generally and civil liberties in particular. * Excellent legal research, writing and verbal communication skills. * Ability to engage in complex legal analysis and fact-finding. * Ability to work independently as well as within a team. * Ability to manage cases without close supervision. * Experience dealing with the media. * Travel is required. COMPENSATION The ACLU offers compensation commensurate with experience and within the parameters of the ACLU compensation scale. HOW TO APPLY Applications should consist of a cover letter, a resume, the names of two references, and two writing samples, at least one of which should be a legal research memo, brief, or article to: hrjobsSPT at aclu.org - reference [SPT-11/INCL] in the subject line. Please note that this is not the general ACLU applicant email address. This email address is specific to Speech, Privacy and Technology Project postings. In order to ensure your application is received, please make certain it is sent to the correct e-mail address. You can expect to receive an automatic response that acknowledges the submission of application materials. Alternatively, applications can be mailed to: Ben Wizner RE: [SPT-11/INCL] 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 Please indicate in your cover letter where you learned of this career opportunity. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. This job description provides a general but not comprehensive list of the essential responsibilities and qualifications required. It does not represent a contract of employment. The ACLU reserves the right to change the job description and or posting at any time without advance notice. The ACLU is an equal opportunity employer. We value a diverse workforce and an inclusive culture. The ACLU encourages applications from all qualified individuals without regard to race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age, national origin, marital status, citizenship, disability, and veteran status. We encourage applicants with disabilities who may need accommodations in the application process to contact: HRJobINCLReq at aclu.org. Correspondence sent to this address that is not related to requests for accommodations will not be reviewed. Applicants should follow the instructions above regarding how to apply. The ACLU comprises two separate corporate entities, the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation. Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU Foundation are national organizations with the same overall mission, and share office space and employees. The ACLU has two separate corporate entities in order to do a broad range of work to protect civil liberties. This job posting refers collectively to the two organizations under the name "ACLU." -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Sep 18 17:51:02 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:51:02 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Braille Literacy = Drinks on a Beautiful Beach? Message-ID: <07d401ceb497$b4979f20$1dc6dd60$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings Friends: As many of you know, the National Federation of the Blind has played a major role in allowing me to become a successful attorney and otherwise lead a full and enriching life. Please join me in supporting the Federation by participating in the NFB of Colorado's Amazing Vacation Travel Raffle. It's easy to do. What can you win? A $3500.00 travel gift certificate to a travel agency. Anyone in the world can win this certificate to travel anywhere in the world. You don't even have to use it all at once. You can break it up into a few trips and related travel purchases from the agency. Last year's winner is taking a bike tour of Europe, for example. What is the cost? The cost of one ticket is $10 and you can get three for $20. How do you purchase tickets? Please go to www.nfbco.org and click on the vacation travel raffle link and follow the instructions from there. What does this fundraiser support? It supports our college scholarship program for blind students and our Braille literacy program called BELL for blind youth. When is the drawing? We will draw the winning ticket on Saturday, October 19, 2013, as part of the NFB of Colorado's Annual Banquet. You need not be present to win. Again, please go to www.nfbco.org and purchase your tickets. Thanks to all those who have already supported this program! Scott C. LaBarre, President National Federation of the Blind of Colorado P.S. I apologize if you have received this mailing a couple of times due to the fact that some email addresses are on a few different lists. From mikefry79 at gmail.com Thu Sep 19 14:08:31 2013 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:08:31 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning, Robert. The fact that you have started your own practice and are successful at it inspires me. I especially like that you get to go to court nearly everyday and that you enjoy your work. In fact, all of the solo practitioners on the list inspire me. Recently, I left my job as an attorney for the State of California since I moved across the country to support my wife who is attending a really excellent business school. We felt that this was a good course of action because, statistically, it looks likely that she will be earning quite a bit more than our previous combined incomes and I didn't really enjoy my work for the State. I didn't really enjoy working for the State because it was incredibly boring. We are going to be here for about another 18 months. I've taken the bar and will get the results back in several weeks. This seems like a great opportunity for me to try solo practice since it doesn't make sense to get a government job because we are only going to be here for eighteen months. I'd like to get more information about what it is like to be a solo practitioner. How do you get clients? How much do you charge them? How do you get referrals? What area of law do you do, i.e. criminal, civil, contracts, etc.? Are you a member of your local Bar association? Do you get work from your local Bar association? Any information at all, would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mike On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Dittman, Robert wrote: > Hi all, > > I was talking to law pay about how easy it was for my firm to accept > credit cards, and how as a blind attorney it was a very good secure way to > make sure I am receiving all of the funds that the client should pay. My > representative drafted the following email for me to tell all of my blind > and visually impaired colleagues in hopes that they might to, benefit from > law pay in their practice. > > In the interest of full disclosure, I will receive a small referral reward > for any person who signs up for Law Pay and makes it known that I, Robert > Dittman, was the one who referred them. However, that is not the reason > that I am sending this message although the referral fee will be nice, the > better benefit is to help out other attorneys. > > Here is the information... > > [LawPay Header.png] > > Hi Robert, > > I received your email request and I am happy to inform you about LawPay. > We have a great special going on until September 27th. The details on all > of our options along with the link to sign up are below. > > With an average savings of 25% off standard bank processing fees, join the > thousands of attorneys already benefiting from LawPay! > > LawPay is the only credit card processing program recommended by over 80 > state and local bar associations across the country as the correct way to > handle credit card payments in a law practice. The program is designed to > ensure your firm remains in compliance with both ABA and state guidelines > for separating earned and unearned fees when accepting card payments, > avoiding the risk of commingling funds. > > As the premier card processor for the legal industry, LawPay provides a > level of experience and understanding of your profession simply not found > with other services. I am confident LawPay will not only save your firm > money; but also increase cash flow and decrease the number of days > outstanding on client invoices. > > We are pleased to offer the following: > > Option 1 - LawPay Basic (LawPay Plus)– Traditional Credit Card Machine > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee: > > $0.20 > > • Term of Agreement > > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Plus) > • Terminal reprogramming fee (for existing terminals) > OR > > $5 ($10 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > Waived > > • Credit Card Terminal w/ Printer > *Includes Lifetime Warranty and plugs into an analog phone line > > $295 ($145 until September 27th) > > > > > > Option 2 - Small Firm Program – Virtual Terminal; Best option for low > volume, under$2,500 per month > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Processing Rate : > > 3.25% Flat Rate – Keyed or Swiped > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.30 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee > > $10 (single deposit account) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 3 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal; payment processing thru a > secure website > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Keyed Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards > > 2.19% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 4 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal with Card Reader > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > • MagTek Card Reader > > > $150 (one-time payment) > > > Does not include pass-through fees from Visa, MasterCard and Discover. > > A great feature with our virtual terminal is the secure payment page that > you can email to clients and put on your website. Your clients can simply > click on the link and will be able to submit a payment. This is included > for free with our virtual terminal. To see how firms already on board with > LawPay are utilizing this feature, please click here http://www.mwbavl.com > > > Through the program there are no annual fees, no cancelation fees, no > monthly minimums and no contracts or long-term commitments. We earn your > business every day! > > If you’d like to sign up online click here https://www.lawpay.com/swomackYou can use the promotion code lawpayshow. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. I am here to help. > > > Best Regards, > > > Sean Womack > Certified Payment Professional > Account Manager > > To Sign Up Now Visit: LawPay.com/Sean > > 6200 Bridge Point Parkway, Suite 250 | Austin, TX 78730 > (T) 800.462.8193 | (F) 512-233-2388 > AffiniPay.com | LawPay.com< > http://www.lawpay.com/> > > [Description: AP_LP_sm] [Certified Payments Professional] > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > > From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Sep 19 17:22:26 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:22:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have floated this idea on here before, but this time I am finally going to take action and plan something. It can get frustrated practicing law as a blind solo attorney if you don't have the ability to chat with other successful solo attorneys. Rob and I recently had a very good, informative, and spirited discussion about how to practice law as a solo. I have been practicing for 4 years and he for 4 months. I have also helped and been helped by Paul who also has been at it for some time. We all have different approaches and methods that can be beneficial to all. All three of us are eager to help each other and others with our limited experiences. It is no small feat practicing law as a blind attorney let along as a solo attorney. So, if you are interested in joining us for an informative, but guided conference call, please privately e-mail me your name and e-mail address. I will organize a call for sometime in October, exclusively for current blind solos and solo wanna bes. Once I have the list of the attendees, I will solicit questions to guide the substance of the discussions. Please, this is intended only for currently licensed attorneys in order to keep the discussion on topic. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and no-fault family law -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fry Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:08 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price Good morning, Robert. The fact that you have started your own practice and are successful at it inspires me. I especially like that you get to go to court nearly everyday and that you enjoy your work. In fact, all of the solo practitioners on the list inspire me. Recently, I left my job as an attorney for the State of California since I moved across the country to support my wife who is attending a really excellent business school. We felt that this was a good course of action because, statistically, it looks likely that she will be earning quite a bit more than our previous combined incomes and I didn't really enjoy my work for the State. I didn't really enjoy working for the State because it was incredibly boring. We are going to be here for about another 18 months. I've taken the bar and will get the results back in several weeks. This seems like a great opportunity for me to try solo practice since it doesn't make sense to get a government job because we are only going to be here for eighteen months. I'd like to get more information about what it is like to be a solo practitioner. How do you get clients? How much do you charge them? How do you get referrals? What area of law do you do, i.e. criminal, civil, contracts, etc.? Are you a member of your local Bar association? Do you get work from your local Bar association? Any information at all, would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mike On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Dittman, Robert wrote: > Hi all, > > I was talking to law pay about how easy it was for my firm to accept > credit cards, and how as a blind attorney it was a very good secure way to > make sure I am receiving all of the funds that the client should pay. My > representative drafted the following email for me to tell all of my blind > and visually impaired colleagues in hopes that they might to, benefit from > law pay in their practice. > > In the interest of full disclosure, I will receive a small referral reward > for any person who signs up for Law Pay and makes it known that I, Robert > Dittman, was the one who referred them. However, that is not the reason > that I am sending this message although the referral fee will be nice, the > better benefit is to help out other attorneys. > > Here is the information... > > [LawPay Header.png] > > Hi Robert, > > I received your email request and I am happy to inform you about LawPay. > We have a great special going on until September 27th. The details on > all > of our options along with the link to sign up are below. > > With an average savings of 25% off standard bank processing fees, join the > thousands of attorneys already benefiting from LawPay! > > LawPay is the only credit card processing program recommended by over 80 > state and local bar associations across the country as the correct way to > handle credit card payments in a law practice. The program is designed to > ensure your firm remains in compliance with both ABA and state guidelines > for separating earned and unearned fees when accepting card payments, > avoiding the risk of commingling funds. > > As the premier card processor for the legal industry, LawPay provides a > level of experience and understanding of your profession simply not found > with other services. I am confident LawPay will not only save your firm > money; but also increase cash flow and decrease the number of days > outstanding on client invoices. > > We are pleased to offer the following: > > Option 1 - LawPay Basic (LawPay Plus)– Traditional Credit Card Machine > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee: > > $0.20 > > • Term of Agreement > > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Plus) > • Terminal reprogramming fee (for existing terminals) > OR > > $5 ($10 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > Waived > > • Credit Card Terminal w/ Printer > *Includes Lifetime Warranty and plugs into an analog phone line > > $295 ($145 until September 27th) > > > > > > Option 2 - Small Firm Program – Virtual Terminal; Best option for low > volume, under$2,500 per month > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Processing Rate : > > 3.25% Flat Rate – Keyed or Swiped > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.30 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee > > $10 (single deposit account) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 3 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal; payment processing thru a > secure website > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Keyed Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards > > 2.19% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 4 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal with Card Reader > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > • MagTek Card Reader > > > $150 (one-time payment) > > > Does not include pass-through fees from Visa, MasterCard and Discover. > > A great feature with our virtual terminal is the secure payment page that > you can email to clients and put on your website. Your clients can simply > click on the link and will be able to submit a payment. This is included > for free with our virtual terminal. To see how firms already on board > with > LawPay are utilizing this feature, please click here http://www.mwbavl.com > > > Through the program there are no annual fees, no cancelation fees, no > monthly minimums and no contracts or long-term commitments. We earn your > business every day! > > If youÂ’d like to sign up online click here > https://www.lawpay.com/swomackYou can use the promotion code lawpayshow. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. I am here to help. > > > Best Regards, > > > Sean Womack > Certified Payment Professional > Account Manager > > To Sign Up Now Visit: LawPay.com/Sean > > 6200 Bridge Point Parkway, Suite 250 | Austin, TX 78730 > (T) 800.462.8193 | (F) 512-233-2388 > AffiniPay.com | LawPay.com< > http://www.lawpay.com/> > > [Description: AP_LP_sm] [Certified Payments Professional] > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Thu Sep 19 17:23:10 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:23:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: someone, please change the subject of my other e-mail while replying. Rod From: Michael Fry Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:08 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Promotion from law pay for new solo practitioners or any other attorney who wishes to have credit card processing for a good price Good morning, Robert. The fact that you have started your own practice and are successful at it inspires me. I especially like that you get to go to court nearly everyday and that you enjoy your work. In fact, all of the solo practitioners on the list inspire me. Recently, I left my job as an attorney for the State of California since I moved across the country to support my wife who is attending a really excellent business school. We felt that this was a good course of action because, statistically, it looks likely that she will be earning quite a bit more than our previous combined incomes and I didn't really enjoy my work for the State. I didn't really enjoy working for the State because it was incredibly boring. We are going to be here for about another 18 months. I've taken the bar and will get the results back in several weeks. This seems like a great opportunity for me to try solo practice since it doesn't make sense to get a government job because we are only going to be here for eighteen months. I'd like to get more information about what it is like to be a solo practitioner. How do you get clients? How much do you charge them? How do you get referrals? What area of law do you do, i.e. criminal, civil, contracts, etc.? Are you a member of your local Bar association? Do you get work from your local Bar association? Any information at all, would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mike On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Dittman, Robert wrote: > Hi all, > > I was talking to law pay about how easy it was for my firm to accept > credit cards, and how as a blind attorney it was a very good secure way to > make sure I am receiving all of the funds that the client should pay. My > representative drafted the following email for me to tell all of my blind > and visually impaired colleagues in hopes that they might to, benefit from > law pay in their practice. > > In the interest of full disclosure, I will receive a small referral reward > for any person who signs up for Law Pay and makes it known that I, Robert > Dittman, was the one who referred them. However, that is not the reason > that I am sending this message although the referral fee will be nice, the > better benefit is to help out other attorneys. > > Here is the information... > > [LawPay Header.png] > > Hi Robert, > > I received your email request and I am happy to inform you about LawPay. > We have a great special going on until September 27th. The details on > all > of our options along with the link to sign up are below. > > With an average savings of 25% off standard bank processing fees, join the > thousands of attorneys already benefiting from LawPay! > > LawPay is the only credit card processing program recommended by over 80 > state and local bar associations across the country as the correct way to > handle credit card payments in a law practice. The program is designed to > ensure your firm remains in compliance with both ABA and state guidelines > for separating earned and unearned fees when accepting card payments, > avoiding the risk of commingling funds. > > As the premier card processor for the legal industry, LawPay provides a > level of experience and understanding of your profession simply not found > with other services. I am confident LawPay will not only save your firm > money; but also increase cash flow and decrease the number of days > outstanding on client invoices. > > We are pleased to offer the following: > > Option 1 - LawPay Basic (LawPay Plus)– Traditional Credit Card Machine > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee: > > $0.20 > > • Term of Agreement > > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Plus) > • Terminal reprogramming fee (for existing terminals) > OR > > $5 ($10 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > Waived > > • Credit Card Terminal w/ Printer > *Includes Lifetime Warranty and plugs into an analog phone line > > $295 ($145 until September 27th) > > > > > > Option 2 - Small Firm Program – Virtual Terminal; Best option for low > volume, under$2,500 per month > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Processing Rate : > > 3.25% Flat Rate – Keyed or Swiped > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.30 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee > > $10 (single deposit account) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 3 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal; payment processing thru a > secure website > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Keyed Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards > > 2.19% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > > Option 4 - LawPay Web / Plus – Virtual Terminal with Card Reader > • Visa, MasterCard & Discover Swiped Processing Rate: > • Specialty Cards and Keyed Transactions > > 1.79% > +0.86% > > • Transaction/Batch Fee > • Term of Agreement > > $0.20 > Month-to-Month > > • Monthly Fee (LawPay Web Plus) > > $20 ($30 -Trust & Operating) 3 Months Free > > • Virtual Terminal one-time payment > *Ability to include direct link to virtual terminal from website > > $150 (WAIVED until September 27th) > > • MagTek Card Reader > > > $150 (one-time payment) > > > Does not include pass-through fees from Visa, MasterCard and Discover. > > A great feature with our virtual terminal is the secure payment page that > you can email to clients and put on your website. Your clients can simply > click on the link and will be able to submit a payment. This is included > for free with our virtual terminal. To see how firms already on board > with > LawPay are utilizing this feature, please click here http://www.mwbavl.com > > > Through the program there are no annual fees, no cancelation fees, no > monthly minimums and no contracts or long-term commitments. We earn your > business every day! > > If youÂ’d like to sign up online click here > https://www.lawpay.com/swomackYou can use the promotion code lawpayshow. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. I am here to help. > > > Best Regards, > > > Sean Womack > Certified Payment Professional > Account Manager > > To Sign Up Now Visit: LawPay.com/Sean > > 6200 Bridge Point Parkway, Suite 250 | Austin, TX 78730 > (T) 800.462.8193 | (F) 512-233-2388 > AffiniPay.com | LawPay.com< > http://www.lawpay.com/> > > [Description: AP_LP_sm] [Certified Payments Professional] > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 19 17:55:53 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:55:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Question About Management Software for Law Office and Non-profit Related Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E158285@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: This is to inquire if there is a good piece of software (by this I mean it actually works and does not but partially work with JAWS) that would help with law office management, e.g. recording client contacts and billing, and calendar functions; and that could also help with general non-profit type tracking, e.g. keeping a sense of donors. This software, if there are any suggestions, would need to be user friendly for sighted and blind persons alike; and would actually need to function with JAWS. I have absolutely no time and patience for JAWS or dealing with Freedom Scientific. I am sincerely appreciative. I do realize that I may well be inquiring into a couple of software solutions. Sincerely, Gary From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 19 19:10:24 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:10:24 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Community Forum - Structured Conversation on Race Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E1583EE@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: Do find the below. If my calendar allows, I do plan to attend. Sincerely, Gary when Your Neighbor is a Stranger: A Community Conversation in the Aftermath of George Zimmerman [cid:_1_0EEBD4BC0EEBD2940068634E85257BEB] Where do we go from here? Join the YWCA Greater Baltimore and Associated Black Charities for a panel and community discussion. Monday, October 21, 2013 4 to 8pm University of Baltimore Although this is a FREE event, pre-registration is required. Please click here to attend. Light refreshments will be served. 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We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Federal Bureau of Prisons United States Pentitentiary Leavenworth, Kansas Supervisory Attorney-Advisor GS-905-13/14 The position will remain open until filled, but applications must be submitted no later than September 26,2013. Date posted: 09-19-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorney Uncompensated United States Attorney's Office District of Connecticut Vacancy Announcement No. 13-CT-05 Position is open until filled. Date posted: 09-19-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division Director of Civil Enforcement ES-905-00 Applications must be received no later than 11:59 p.m., Friday, October 4, 2013. Date posted: 09-19-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division Chief, Litigation I Section, ES-905-00 Applications must be received no later than 11:59 p.m., Friday, October 4, 2013. Date posted: 09-19-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division Chief, Telecommunications and Media Enforcement Section,ES-905-00 Applications must be received no later than 11:59 p.m., Friday, October 4, 2013. Date posted: 09-19-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) Western District of Louisiana Salary: $0.00 14-WDLA-SAUSA-01 Applications will be accepted until positions are filled. Date posted: 09-19-2013 Supervisory Attorney-Advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Medical Center Rochester, Minnesota GS-905-13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than September 26, 2013. Date posted: 09-19-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorney (Uncompensated) United States Attorney's Office District of Maryland Northern (Baltimore) and Southern (Greenbelt) Divisions Announcement Number: 13-MD-02 Positions open until filled. Date posted: 09-16-2013 Experienced Attorneys / GS-12 to GS-15 Civil Division, Commercial Litigation Branch Fraud Section Applications should be submitted as early as possible as offers will be extended on a rolling basis, but, in any event, no applications will be accepted after September 27, 2013. Date posted: 09-16-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Office of Legislative Affairs Experienced Attorney / GS/13/14/15 Detail Opportunity Announcement: OLA ATY 13-001 Deadline for applications is September 20, 2013. Date posted: 09-13-2013 U.S. Department of Justice Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office District of Puerto Rico 13-PRAUSA-03 Applications must be received by Friday, September 27, 2013. Date posted: 09-13-2013 Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Correctional Complex Yazoo City, Mississippi CLC Attorney (Attorney Advisor) GS-905-12/13 This position is open until filled but no later than September 18, 2013. Date posted: 09-12-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorneys (Serve Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Georgia 13-SAUSASDGA-03 Positions are open until filled, but resumes must be received by October 15, 2013. Date posted: 09-12-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorneys (Serve Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Georgia 13-SAUSASDGA-02 Positions are open until filled, but resumes must be received by October 15, 2013. Date posted: 09-12-2013 Attorney Advisor, GS-0905-14/15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development, Assistance and Training Section Intermittent Legal Advisor, El Salvador 13-CRM-OPD-079 Applications will be accepted until the October 11, 2013. Date posted: 09-11-2013 Attorney Advisor, GS-905-15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development, Assistance and Training Resident Legal Advisor for Colombia 13-CRM-OPD-078 Applications will be accepted until October 10, 2013. Date posted: 09-11-2013 Special Assistant United States Attorney (Serves Without Compensation) United States Attorney's Office Eastern District of Virginia Alexandria Office 13-EDVA-15 Positions are open until filled, but resumes must be received by September 23, 2013. Date posted: 09-09-2013 Trial Attorney, GS-0905-15 U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division Office of Overseas Prosecutorial Development, Assistance and Training Section Intermittent Legal Advisor, Mexico 13-CRM-OPD-080 Applications will be accepted until October 4, 2013. Date posted: 09-06-2013 -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From attorney at alcidonislaw.com Tue Sep 24 13:44:56 2013 From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esq.) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:44:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos Message-ID: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 24 13:52:53 2013 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:52:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos In-Reply-To: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> References: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> Message-ID: <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net> Rod: Please put me on your list. Thanks. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:45 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From Attorney at alcidonislaw.com Wed Sep 25 02:09:00 2013 From: Attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis, Esquire) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:09:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos In-Reply-To: <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net> References: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <0165A53DCAEA40ECB396D646E57089B1@RodTHINK> We’ll be in touch soon, definitely by second week of October. I am working on putting the list together so only interested individuals receive the information to join the call. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Alcidonis Law Office 2824 Cottman Avenue Suite 15 Philadelphia, PA 19149 O: (215) 305-8085 Attorney at alcidonislaw.com www.alcidonislaw.com Personal injury, Immigration, and no-fault family law -----Original Message----- From: Daniel McBride Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos Rod: Please put me on your list. Thanks. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:45 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attorney%40alcidonislaw.com From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 25 12:56:12 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:56:12 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos In-Reply-To: <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net> References: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15F0C4@pl-emsmb12> Rod: Do place me on the list for this call. I do not find a date for it as such; it may be it has not yet been scheduled. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos Rod: Please put me on your list. Thanks. Dan McBride Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:45 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 25 12:56:36 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:56:36 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos In-Reply-To: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> References: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15F0D1@pl-emsmb12> Do place me on the list for this call. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:45 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. My e-mail address is: rod at alcidonislaw.com Rod _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov From jty727 at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 17:06:19 2013 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:06:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics Message-ID: Hello: I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. Justin Young From rjaquiss at earthlink.net Wed Sep 25 18:56:31 2013 From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (Robert Jaquiss) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:56:31 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Beneblog: Technology Meets Society] I Need a Good Lawyer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000101ceba20$f3287dc0$d9797940$@earthlink.net> Hello: I thought this might be of interest. Regards, Robert From: benetech at lyris.dundee.net [mailto:benetech at lyris.dundee.net] On Behalf Of Jim Fruchterman Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:37 AM To: rjaquiss at earthlink.net Subject: [Beneblog: Technology Meets Society] I Need a Good Lawyer No, we’re not being sued (and we want to keep it that way). However, the time has come when we need a really smart attorney to join Benetech and help us navigate the intersection of technology and social good. Benetech has some of the juiciest and most exciting range of legal challenges I can imagine: the great majority of our legal work concerns intellectual property and human rights. We’re operating at the forefront of copyright limitations and exceptions, both in the United States and globally. We serve human rights activists in more than 100 countries. We’re deep believers in the benefits of openness, which means we publish open source software and create open content under Creative Commons licenses. We are consulted by policymakers, legislators, rightsholders, companies and activists for our insights. We’re not an advocacy organization, but our technical insights are in great demand from advocates. We get a huge amount of pro bono assistance from the legal profession, both because of our social impact as a nonprofit, and because of the challenging and interesting issues we tackle. Many of our projects turn on legal questions, and our attorneys are a core part of figuring out solutions that will have real positive impact on society. We rely on free licenses to proprietary content and software, and typically get a “Yes!” from the majority of IP owners we approach. After all, they’re proud of their creations and would love to see them benefit disadvantaged people and communities, where regular market forces would fail to go. Until now, we’ve operated with purely pro bono help in the form of two attorneys on our board. We are now looking for a half-time general counsel to join our team and manage the host of legal issues we are always investigating. The deep reservoir of pro bono resources provides elasticity for an enterprising and agile counsel who can make the choices of which issues to handle solely inside, mainly with outside counsel, or blended. Right now, we have multiple law school clinics that would love to tackle new projects with us, projects we actually have but lack the bandwidth to pursue. Of course, part of the role is the bread-and-butter work of a nonprofit GC: day-to-day transactions, reviewing our 990, providing counsel to our senior team and board. But, I expect that 75% of the job will be about analyzing the legal issues from our programs, especially in our Global Literacy Program, which includes Bookshare, the largest digital library for the blind and dyslexic in the U.S., as well as our Human Rights Program, which supports activists fighting injustice around the world. Here’s a sampling of the kinds of projects on our current list: * Operating an open repository of image descriptions to assist blind and other disabled people to access the information locked up in images, especially in education (big fair use question here). * The recent Indian copyright amendment that creates an exception similar to Section 121 in the United States, which makes it possible for us to set up a Bookshare-style crowd-sourced library in India with local partner NGOs. * How to legally minimize the import duties on tablets and smartphones that are donated to us in the U.S., when we bring them to developing world countries. * Digital signatures for parents/guardians wanting to sign up their children with disabilities for Bookshare. * Human Rights Program policies: what are contingency/crisis plans for our staff? * An intellectual property manual done from the standpoint of an organization that is dedicated to openness, rather than proprietary approaches. * The DMCA 1201 ruling on ebook access through DRM circumvention was clearly aimed at us: should we take up the challenge? * The new WIPO Marrakesh Treaty for the Blind: we were an integral part of the team advocating for it, and how do we make it real as the leading library for the blind with global ambitions? * Authors Guild vs. HathiTrust. I was an expert witness in the case, and we’ve filed an amicus brief in the appeal. What’s next? * Should we establish an affiliated, minority-interest benefit corporation, to better obtain R&D funding for tech for social good projects? * Volunteerism: what happens when we engage volunteers outside the United States and expand the range of tasks we do inside the U.S.? * Benetech Labs: what are our intellectual property policies on Labs projects if we host projects proposed by third parties? * Will we act as a fiscal sponsor, something we’ve avoided to date? That’s just a taste of what’s on the plate at Benetech. If you’re a wicked smart attorney with intellectual property chops and a track record of being interested in social good, please consider throwing your hat in the ring! Will you be my lawyer, please? -- 480 S. California Avenue Suite 201 Palo Alto, CA 94306 (650) 644-3400 You are a subscriber to Benetech's Beneblog, authored by Jim Fruchterman, as: rjaquiss at earthlink.net . To unsubscribe click this link: Unsubscribe From langlois2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 25 20:25:24 2013 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:25:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics References: Message-ID: Hello, Mr. Young, I am a blind notary. An attorney friend sponsored me to become such. I submitted an application to the Secretary of State and had a notary stamp made. I seldom notarize documents. Mostly I have notarized items for individuals I know very well. HTH. Brian Langlois Haverhill, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Young" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > Hello: > > I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if > there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become > a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role > affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. > > Justin Young > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net From jty727 at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 20:32:10 2013 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:32:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mr. Langlois, How do you witness the signatures of individuals signing the item to be notarized? I was thinking of taking the exam in New York State, but thought I'd reach out to this list first. Thanks for all the feedback! Justin On 9/25/13, Brian Langlois wrote: > Hello, Mr. Young, > I am a blind notary. > An attorney friend sponsored me to become such. > I submitted an application to the Secretary of State and had a notary stamp > > made. > I seldom notarize documents. Mostly I have notarized items for individuals I > > know very well. > HTH. > Brian Langlois > Haverhill, MA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Young" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:06 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > > >> Hello: >> >> I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if >> there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become >> a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role >> affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. >> >> Justin Young >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com > From newsandtraffic at aol.com Wed Sep 25 20:42:30 2013 From: newsandtraffic at aol.com (Sean Paul) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:42:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics References: Message-ID: <551E73A88506442CB0F1FECCE4D1208F@PC> &, where'd you get your stamp made, thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Young" To: "Brian Langlois" ; "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 16:32 Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > Hi Mr. Langlois, > > How do you witness the signatures of individuals signing the item to > be notarized? I was thinking of taking the exam in New York State, > but thought I'd reach out to this list first. Thanks for all the > feedback! > > Justin > > On 9/25/13, Brian Langlois wrote: >> Hello, Mr. Young, >> I am a blind notary. >> An attorney friend sponsored me to become such. >> I submitted an application to the Secretary of State and had a notary >> stamp >> >> made. >> I seldom notarize documents. Mostly I have notarized items for >> individuals I >> >> know very well. >> HTH. >> Brian Langlois >> Haverhill, MA >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Justin Young" >> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:06 PM >> Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics >> >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if >>> there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become >>> a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role >>> affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. >>> >>> Justin Young >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%40aol.com > From langlois2 at verizon.net Wed Sep 25 20:59:39 2013 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:59:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics References: <551E73A88506442CB0F1FECCE4D1208F@PC> Message-ID: <0D730D3863B944C08F8E9146FA9154BC@barney03> Once I became a notary, various vendors sent information, advertising their notary stamps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Paul" To: "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > &, where'd you get your stamp made, thanks. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Young" > To: "Brian Langlois" ; "Blind Law Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 16:32 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > > >> Hi Mr. Langlois, >> >> How do you witness the signatures of individuals signing the item to >> be notarized? I was thinking of taking the exam in New York State, >> but thought I'd reach out to this list first. Thanks for all the >> feedback! >> >> Justin >> >> On 9/25/13, Brian Langlois wrote: >>> Hello, Mr. Young, >>> I am a blind notary. >>> An attorney friend sponsored me to become such. >>> I submitted an application to the Secretary of State and had a notary >>> stamp >>> >>> made. >>> I seldom notarize documents. Mostly I have notarized items for >>> individuals I >>> >>> know very well. >>> HTH. >>> Brian Langlois >>> Haverhill, MA >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Justin Young" >>> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:06 PM >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics >>> >>> >>>> Hello: >>>> >>>> I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if >>>> there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become >>>> a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role >>>> affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. >>>> >>>> Justin Young >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%40aol.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net From jty727 at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 21:01:42 2013 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:01:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics In-Reply-To: <0D730D3863B944C08F8E9146FA9154BC@barney03> References: <551E73A88506442CB0F1FECCE4D1208F@PC> <0D730D3863B944C08F8E9146FA9154BC@barney03> Message-ID: Oh very interesting. Thanks Brian. On 9/25/13, Brian Langlois wrote: > Once I became a notary, various vendors sent information, advertising their > > notary stamps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Paul" > To: "Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notary Republics > > >> &, where'd you get your stamp made, thanks. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Justin Young" >> To: "Brian Langlois" ; "Blind Law Mailing List" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 16:32 >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Notary Republics >> >> >>> Hi Mr. Langlois, >>> >>> How do you witness the signatures of individuals signing the item to >>> be notarized? I was thinking of taking the exam in New York State, >>> but thought I'd reach out to this list first. Thanks for all the >>> feedback! >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On 9/25/13, Brian Langlois wrote: >>>> Hello, Mr. Young, >>>> I am a blind notary. >>>> An attorney friend sponsored me to become such. >>>> I submitted an application to the Secretary of State and had a notary >>>> stamp >>>> >>>> made. >>>> I seldom notarize documents. Mostly I have notarized items for >>>> individuals I >>>> >>>> know very well. >>>> HTH. >>>> Brian Langlois >>>> Haverhill, MA >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Justin Young" >>>> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:06 PM >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Notary Republics >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello: >>>>> >>>>> I think I may have asked this question before, but I was wondering if >>>>> there were any blind notaries on this list? If so how did you become >>>>> a notary and what techniques do you use to fulfill this role >>>>> affectively? Thank you as always for the feedback. >>>>> >>>>> Justin Young >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> blindlaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/newsandtraffic%40aol.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com > From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Wed Sep 25 21:26:52 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:26:52 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Local Md. Attorneys Challenge PG County Pit Bull Band Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E1608D6@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: This is truly ground breaking litigation, being lead by Managing Partner Anne Benaroya, Esq. with whom I am working as a type of junior partner. That term is not quite exact as we are developing the face of the Center as a public interest firm. I have Anne to thank for bringing me aboard; she is brilliant. The statistics do show that even most blind lawyers are unemployed or underemployed. Thus, the commitment of Anne to equal access to the profession should be celebrated in, the soon to be, disability employment month. The Center is an affiliate of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum, being a public interest related law and policy firm or shop. I do hope you will help distribute the release below. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. September 24, 2013, GREENBELT, MARYLAND - A Maryland Circuit Court judge has ruled that Prince George's County is in violation of state law, ordering the immediate return of a mobility assistance service dog named Storm to her Beltsville owner who needs her dog to get around safely. The Maryland Animal Law Center's Anne Benaroya, Esq., and Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. are the attorneys for plaintiffs Dani Gugliemi and the Maryland Dog Federation, who is representing a number of its members whose dogs have been seized under this law. Since early July of this year, trained service dog Storm has been prohibited from the county for being a "pit bull", sight unseen, after an anonymous complaint made to Prince George's County Animal Management. According to current law, dogs of three breeds, mixes of those breeds, or dogs that resemble those breeds are banned from the county. Such dogs are subject to confiscation and death by lethal injection; their owners are subject to fine and up to six months in jail. State and Federal law does not permit breed discriminatory laws such as the county's ban to affect a person with a disability or her service dog. Storm's owner, a polio, cancer, and chemotherapy survivor with obvious mobility impairment, was threatened with arrest if Storm was ever found in the county. Additionally, a preliminary injunction to completely stop the enforcement of the county's "pit bull ban" is scheduled for October 3rd. If signed, it would require the county to immediately stop seizing dogs from their families simply for what they look like. A trial to stop enforcement permanently would follow which would eliminate the breed specific dog law throughout the county. "This will be a true David and Golliath case," says Maryland Dog Federation Executive Director Adrianne Lefkowitz. "We are a local grassroots organization with limited resources going up against a huge county. This case is far from won and fighting for our rights is an expensive process. We expect a lot of resistance from the county and that's why we need the support of everyone who cares about this issue." For more information visit the federation website www.marylanddogfederation.com/local or contribute to the Prince George's County Family Dog Legal Defense Fund: http://bit.ly/PGFamDogs Prince George's County is the second largest municipality in the United States to have breed discriminatory law, which was enacted in 1997. Like thousands of other jurisdictions across the country, the county has a number of other breed neutral, behavior specific laws that protect the public from dangerous, stray, and nuisance dogs. Breed bans allow for dogs to be seized and killed for doing nothing wrong. A 2005 county task force report concluded the county breed specific law costs hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to enforce, yet hundreds and hundreds of dogs identified as "pit bulls" still enter the county shelter and there seems to be no appreciable decrease of illegal dogs in the county. Although the "breed ban" is a criminal offense, many residents have had their dogs shot by the police or taken away by Animal Management without even being charged with a crime and therefore, without a right to a public defender or jury trial. Prince George's County Executive Rushern Baker III has stated he would like to see the Prince George's county ban repealed and the breed neutral dangerous animal laws well enforced. The current County Council has refused to address the matter. Based on myth and misinformation, a 2012 ruling by the Maryland Court of Appeals declared "purebred pit bulls" to be inherently dangerous and landlords be held responsible for injuries incurred as a result of those dogs' involvement in a dog bite incident on their rental property. 2013 legislation to nullify this ruling failed in the 11th hour. It is anticipated that the Maryland General Assembly will again attempt to nullify the ruling during the upcoming General Assembly session, scheduled to begin in January 2014. ### From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Sep 25 21:40:21 2013 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:40:21 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [DRBA] NCLEJ seeks experienced disability rights attorney - corrected email In-Reply-To: <5241EC54.1090701@nclej.org> References: <5241EC54.1090701@nclej.org> Message-ID: <006d01ceba37$d7dac750$879055f0$@labarrelaw.com> -----Original Message----- From: Disability Rights Bar Association [mailto:DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary LaCheen Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:48 PM To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [DRBA] NCLEJ seeks experienced disability rights attorney - corrected email In a rush to get this out yesterday we sent out an announcement with an email address, instead of a link to our website. Apologies. The National Center for Law and Economic Justice (NCLEJ) seeks a dynamic and experienced attorney to direct its path-breaking disability rights work, which focuses on using disability rights laws to ensure meaningful and equal access to government programs serving low income individuals with disabilities. The position involves a mix of class action litigation, policy advocacy, training advocates, and other activities, and involves work in New York City, New York State, in other states, and at the national level. Applicants should have at least six years of relevant experience. The position will remain open until filled. A job announcement providing more detail about the position, and the application process, can be found at http://nclej.org/DisabilityRightsAttorney.php. An email address to accept applications will be operational on Tuesday September 24, 2013. The reason this position has become available is that, after 13 years at NCLEJ, I have accepted a position in the Office of General Counsel at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services In Washington, D.C. While I am very excited about the opportunity this offers to work on some of the same issues from a different vantage point, I will miss working directly with other advocates, including many of you on the listserv. I will also miss the tremendous flexibility that I have had here at NCLEJ to work on a wide range of important and interesting issues. This is a great position, so if you have the relevant experience I hope you will consider applying for it; if not, I hope you will pass this along to others who do. Cary LaCheen National Center for Law and Economic Justice REMINDER: The DRBA listserv is intended to facilitate confidential discussion and sharing of ideas among members. 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From rdittman at stmarytx.edu Thu Sep 26 04:41:14 2013 From: rdittman at stmarytx.edu (Dittman, Robert) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 04:41:14 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos In-Reply-To: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15F0C4@pl-emsmb12> References: <2B22E962B94A4FF394B7D1852E4D4FD2@Workstation> <003601ceb92d$5e641fd0$1b2c5f70$@sbcglobal.net>, <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E15F0C4@pl-emsmb12> Message-ID: Rod, Please count me in as well. I have to go out of the country this weekend to get married but will be back oct 7. Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. Attorney and Counselor at Law Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:57, "Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)" wrote: > > Rod: > > > Do place me on the list for this call. I do not find a date for it as such; it may be it has not yet been scheduled. > > > Sincerely, > Gary C. Norman > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos > > Rod: > > Please put me on your list. Thanks. > > Dan McBride > Fort Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:45 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos > > I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest to make this a possibility. > > My e-mail address is: > rod at alcidonislaw.com > > > > Rod > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Thu Sep 26 14:04:53 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:04:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Md. B. Fopoundation Winners Announced Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E161C56@pl-emsmb12> [cid:image003.png at 01CEBA9D.4DDD3EA0] The Board of Directors of The Maryland Bar Foundation are pleased to announce the 2013 Legal Excellence Awards: Advancement of Professional Competence Hon. Kathleen M. Dumais Advancement of Public Understanding of the Law Hon. Mark F. Scurti and Jennifer S. Fairfax, Esq. Advancement of Public Service Responsibility Hon. Katherine D. Savage Advancement of the Rights of the Disadvantaged Wilhelm H. Joseph, Jr., Esq. 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I have to go out of the country this weekend > to get married but will be back oct 7. > > Robert D. Dittman, ESQ. > Attorney and Counselor at Law > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:57, "Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)" < > Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > > > > Rod: > > > > > > Do place me on the list for this call. I do not find a date for it as > such; it may be it has not yet been scheduled. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Gary C. Norman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > McBride > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:53 AM > > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos > > > > Rod: > > > > Please put me on your list. Thanks. > > > > Dan McBride > > Fort Worth > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Alcidonis, Esq. > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:45 AM > > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference call for blind solos > > > > I am posting this again under a more proper subject line. Given the > demonstrated interest for this to happen, I want to make sure that everyone > who wishes to participate get to do so. I recently proposed to hold a > conference call for blind solos in late October to discuss the practice of > law as a blind attorney. If you are a licensed attorney, please write to me > privately with your e-mail address and I will place you on the final list > of the participants. This is intended only for licensed attorneys who are > currently practicing on their own, or aspiring blind solos, in order to > keep the conversation on topic. I have already received sufficient interest > to make this a possibility. > > > > My e-mail address is: > > rod at alcidonislaw.com > > > > > > > > Rod > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > blindlaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gary.norman%40cms.hhs.gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rdittman%40stmarytx.edu > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Sep 27 17:12:58 2013 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:12:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: <5A114E4DF190414C9DEC8CF5D78729BD0BD88E0574@GSD-MBX-RDC06.gsd.doj.gov> <98A98D365DA17347B0FA3158D79B48944706785B@DPRC-EXCH-P06.JCONMAIL.doj.gov> Message-ID: From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:25 AM To: jobs at nfbnet.org Subject: [Jobs] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice From: Hunter, Sue (JMD) [mailto:Sue.Hunter at usdoj.gov] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:11 AM To: Hunter, Sue (JMD) Subject: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Below is a list of current attorney vacancies at the United States Department of Justice. We encourage all interested applicants to apply; however, please note that due to temporary funding restrictions we may not be able to fill all of the currently advertised positions. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website: www.justice.gov/careers/legal/. In addition, every year over 1,800 volunteer legal interns serve in DOJ components and U.S. Attorneys' Offices throughout the country. If you know any law students who may be interested in a DOJ volunteer internship, please encourage them to review the many opportunities featured at www.justice.gov/careers/legal/volunteer-intern.html. Finally, please share this email with interested colleagues and peers. If you wish to update the contact information for you or the organization you represent, or no longer wish to receive these periodic email announcements, please respond to this email address and ask to be removed from our mailing list. Thank you. Assistant United States Attorney United States Attorney's Office Southern District of Texas Vacancy Announcement #13-SDTX-15 (AUSA-TERM-BRO2) Closes: October 2, 2013 Date posted: 09-25-2013 Supervisory Attorney-Advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Federal Medical Center Rochester, Minnesota GS-905-13/14 This position is open until filled, but no later than September 30, 2013. Date posted: 09-25-2013 Federal Bureau of Prisons Consolidated Legal Center Southeast Regional Office Atlanta, Georgia Attorney Advisor GS-905-12/13 This position is open until filled but no later than September 30, 2013. Date posted: 09-25-2013 Attorney-Advisor Federal Bureau of Prisons Southeast Region Consolidated Legal Center Miami, Florida GS-905-12/13 This position is open until filled, but no later than September 30, 2013. Date posted: 09-25-2013 -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Sep 30 11:43:04 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:43:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Local Attorney, Josh, SSA Award Winner Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E162671@pl-emsmb12> Greetings: On behalf of the Mid-Atlantic Lyceum and myself in my personal capacity as well, this is to congratulate my partner Joshua L. Friedman, Esq. for having received a recognition by the Social Security Administration for his volunteerism. Specifically, he received recognition by the Commissioner. He is an example for all attorney leaders. Sincerely, Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Sep 30 11:49:11 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:49:11 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] correction The Echevarria Travel Show on October 2, 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E1626CE@pl-emsmb12> From: Nfbnet-members-list [mailto:nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 7:27 PM To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] correction The Echevarria Travel Show on October 2, 2013 The first paragraph was not posted in the original e-mail. Cheryl Echevarria and Margo Downey, proud members of the National Federation of the Blind of New York, host the Echevarria Travel Show, which airs on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 at 8pm Eastern Time, on the WTOE Network, http://www.thruoureyes.org, run by the Northeast Chapter of the NFB of New Jersey. This is a live call in talk show, number is 1-888-572-0141, discussing all travel related issues for everyone. This month Cheryl and Margo will give updates on the issues with the airlines with canes and guide dogs, and a new procedure at the airports when going through security. Also they will have guest, Senator Kerryann Ifill, President Barbados Council for the Disabled. We will be discussing: What is the Barbados Council for the Disabled? What is Fully Accessible Barbados (FAB)? What is the concept behind the project? How long has it been running? What has been the response? What are the plans for the future? Come and call in and ask questions, or just listen to the show, we are also streaming live on youtube, and when you to go the main radio website there is a link to watch the show. If you don't want to listen or watch on your computer you can listen in on 1-347-215-7037, this is just to listen in you will not be heard. Thank you. Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State Leading the Way in Independent Travel! Cheryl Echevarria, Owner http://www.echevarriatravel.com 631-456-5394 reservations at echevarriatravel.com http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose Travel CST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780 Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child. Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs. Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Nfbnet-members-list mailing list Nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org List archives: From Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov Mon Sep 30 12:55:37 2013 From: Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov (Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA)) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:55:37 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Public Notice on Emergency Alert System Equipment and Operational Issues Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482D3E1628EE@pl-emsmb12> From: AccessInfo [mailto:AccessInfo at fcc.gov] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:16 PM To: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Subject: Public Notice on Emergency Alert System Equipment and Operational Issues Released On September 23, 2013, the Commission issued a Public Notice seeking comment on various equipment and operational issues that were identified following the first-ever nationwide test of the Emergency Alert System (EAS) conducted by the FCC and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) on November 9, 2011. With this Public Notice, the Commission now initiates a dialogue with EAS stakeholders to develop recommendations for Commission action to address these issues. The Commission welcomes public comment regarding how the EAS can be improved in order to be fully accessible for individuals with disabilities. Comments due: October 23, 2013 Reply Comments due: November 7, 2013 For further information, contact Gregory M. Cooke, Associate Chief, Policy and Licensing Division, Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau at (202) 418-2351, or by email: Gregory.Cooke at fcc.gov. Link to the Public Notice: Word: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1969A1.docx PDF: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1969A1.pdf Text: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1969A1.txt