[blindlaw] Jotting down notes in meetis / on calls: devices / strategies?

Wed Apr 9 22:40:26 UTC 2014

Angie,

I didn't say that using a braille display was less effective. I was
actually commenting on the implications of using a braille slate and
stylus. If you did so, the material would be brailled on physical
sheets of paper and would have to be manually transcribed.

Ger

On 4/9/14, Angie Matney <angie.matney at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see someone beat me to the observation that you don't have to
> transcribe braille notes anymore. For clarification, the Perkins Mini
> (this device is also known as the Mini Seika) does not, as of yet,
> contain a back translator. But I do have software that could quickly
> back-translate the notes for me.
>
> I also agree with whoever it was that posted about a portable scanner.
> I have a nice portable one, but I rarely take it with me. The Perkins
> Mini, on the other hand, is perfect for when a partner says, "Hey,
> meet me in my office to discuss Client X."
>
> I emphatically disagree with the assertion that even if your braille
> skills are superior, using a braille display/notetaker is an inferior
> method. for me, braille is qualitatively different than speech, and in
> some situations, it is far superior. Speech is preferable in other
> situations, and most of the time, I like having access to both.
>
> Anyway, interesting discussion.
>
> On 4/9/14, Sy Hoekstra <sy.hoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This one:
>> http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-HBS-730-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B009A5204K
>>
>> The basic idea is there is a light horseshoe shaped wire thing around the
>> back of your neck. At either end of the horseshoe are some buttons. If
>> you're using a computer, only the volume buttons matter, but if you're
>> using
>> a Bluetooth audio file playing device, you can also play and pause and
>> skip
>> tracks. If it's a phone, you can pick up and talk because there is a mic
>> built in. The headphones are ear buds, and if you aren't using them, they
>> magnetically clip into the horseshoe thing, so you can use one for
>> meetings
>> and both for the rest of the time.
>>
>> It's like $80, but I bought it used for $35 on the Amazon Warehouse, and
>> they work perfectly well. With my new surface pro 2 and these headphones,
>> I
>> am quite tech happy at the moment.
>>
>> Note: JAWS on my tablet works really well with these, but Voiceover on my
>> iPhone, for some reason, does not. Voiceover cuts in and out and is
>> basically useless.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:39 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jotting down notes in meetis / on calls: devices
>> /
>> strategies?
>>
>> What blue tooth head phones?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Shannon Geihsler
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy
>> Hoekstra
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:52 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jotting down notes in meetis / on calls: devices
>> /
>> strategies?
>>
>> I am now using a Surface Pro 2 with Windows 8.1, JAWS, the type cover 2
>> keyboard, and Bluetooth headphones. It's a tablet, so it's light,
>> incredibly
>> fast processing, and, you know, it's a full computer. Also, it boots up
>> ridiculously quickly, like faster than any computer I have ever seen.
>> Totally off to fully ready to run with jaws open is about 15 seconds.
>> About
>> another 10 to sign in with your user name and have jaws open again and
>> ready
>> to go. I've actually timed it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
>> Matney
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:13 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jotting down notes in meetis / on calls: devices
>> /
>> strategies?
>>
>> I've just recently started using a Perkins Mini, a sixteen-cell braille
>> display. This unit weighs about a pound. It doesn't quite have the
>> features
>> of the Braille Sense U2 devices discussed by others, but it meets my
>> needs
>> (and is less expensive). This machine does not have speech output. You
>> can
>> use it as a braille display via bluetooth or USB, but it also has several
>> internal apps. The most useful of these are the notetaker and the book
>> reader. The machine uses MicroSDHC cards and USB flash drives to store
>> books
>> and notes.
>>
>> I sometimes use the Perkins Mini on its own to take notes in meetings.
>> I used it at a conference recently as a display for my iPhone. I used
>> AccessNote, the app released by the American Foundation for the Blind, as
>> the notetaker. I used a bluetooth keyboard for input because I thought
>> the
>> keys on the Perkins Mini might be too noisy.
>>
>> The Mini charges via USB, which means that ou can get one of those
>> external
>> battery paks for smart phones and charge it that way.
>>
>> I like being able to use the Mini with my iPhone, and I really like the
>> capability to take notes on the device itself.
>>
>> Obviously, if you need speech, this won't work for you. But if you are a
>> braille user, the Mini is worth considering. I like not having to use an
>> earphone.
>>
>> You can find more info at www.perkinsproducts.org.
>>
>> On 4/9/14, Gerard Sadlier <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I use a laptop. The only issue is battery life at times.
>>>
>>> On 4/9/14, Robert Jaquiss <rjaquiss at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>>      I would suggest looking at the Hims Braille Sense U2. It is a
>>>> notetaker with a 32 cell braille display. It can use speech, but I
>>>> turned speech off and use the braille display. The U2 can provide
>>>> files in various formats and when you want your notes on a PC, the
>>>> files can  be transferred.
>>>> See the site www.hims-inc.com. Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amar
>>>> Jain
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:40 PM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Jotting down notes in meetis / on calls: devices
>>>> / strategies?
>>>>
>>>> Dear List Members,
>>>>
>>>> One of the challenge which I have now started facing is to take notes
>>>> during meetings or on calls whether internal or external.
>>>>
>>>> One of the issue is of portability of devices, and other is the most
>>>> efficient way to do it within the short span of time.
>>>>
>>>> What are the strategies which members on the list adopt to do the same?
>>>> My
>>>> typing speed is reasonable enough to match with the speed with which
>>>> we go, so as of now the uncomfortable way is to carry your laptop
>>>> along with headphones and take notes. This especially becomes more
>>>> challenging when you have phone in one ear and headphone in other
>>>> ear. And of course portability is another aspect of it.
>>>>
>>>> So, do notetakers in this situation help really? If someone can throw
>>>> light on their usage and features it will be great. I am not well
>>>> equipped with the knowledge of notetakers. Which are the good
>>>> manufacturers of notetaker devices?
>>>>
>>>> Is netbook with Jaws the other possible option? And lastly which I
>>>> can think of is the Bluetooth keyboard with Bluetooth headset and
>>>> smart phone.
>>>> How is that combo? What is the battery life of lets say IPhone and
>>>> Bluetooth Keyboard when used together?
>>>>
>>>> I am not comfortable with the idea of recording first and then
>>>> transcribing the same into text. As that is time consuming.
>>>> Any suggestions will be deeply appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --
>>>> Amar Jain.
>>>> Website: www.amarjain.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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