[blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by DeanandProfessors
Anita Keith-Foust
anitakeithfoust at gmail.com
Fri Dec 26 00:51:45 UTC 2014
Dear Cody:
I definitely will take you up on your offer.
I want to be sure that everyone knows that this is not the only occurrence.
I have substantiated that another visually impaired student filed an OCR
complaint against NCCU for refusing to accommodate. As the investigation
goes further, more information is coming forth.
I look forward to getting more information from you about Campbell. It
sounds great.
Thank you
Anita Keith-Foust
919-430-1978
-----Original Message-----
From: Cody J. Davis [mailto:cjdavis9193 at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:26 PM
To: Anita Keith-Foust; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by
DeanandProfessors
Anita,
I apologize if my suggestions seem a bit off topic, but I've only caught
pieces of the conversation.
I'm a 1L student in Raleigh, NC. I'm quite surprised that NCCU is causing
such problems. I'd like to think this is a rare occurrance. It sound like
the USDOE and USDOJ should be informed.
If like to let you know that there is a lovely little law school in downtown
Raleigh that is ranked and accredited. I'm sure you've heard of it. They've
been nothing short of excellent in working me and my fellow VI classmate. As
a matter of fact, the reference librarian who is working with me one on one
to learn how to access legal research tools is the one who showed me this
list serve. All faculty have been wonderful and so incredibly willing to
work with me.
I'd be glad to help you out in any way as you begin applying to law school.
I'd be happy to tell you more about Campbell Law as well.
Feel free to email/call me.
Cody J. Davis
cjdavis9193 at gmail.com
336.823.0283
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> On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Michal:
>
> Those are excellent questions.
>
> The school that is the topic of my inquiry is a historically African
> American university, North Carolina Central University (NCCU). It is
> not top ranked like Yale, Harvard, or Duke.
>
> The fact that it is a historically African American university would
> make me think that the faculty would be sensitive enough to not
> discriminate and follow the law.
>
> As I think about the dilemma that we all face as blind and visually
> impaired students, we probably need to start a database of
> substantiated instances of discrimination at all colleges and
> universities. There is more than one instance of visually challenged
students not being accommodated at NCCU.
> Right now, I feel like I am extremely vulnerable to saboteurs because
> I am not informed as to which schools have a substantiated history of
> discriminating against visually challenged students.
>
> I am to the point that, although I am preparing for the LSAT, I am
> considering Concord Law School. Concord is an online law school. The
> reason that I am considering this school, although it is not ABA
> approved, is that I can work from the comfort of my home with the
> proper software and equipment. This means that I will be accommodated.
> Also, they do have a department that deals with accessibility issues.
> I have already submitted my documentation for accommodations, extended
> time and etc., and they have agreed to these accommodations. I only need
to take their entrance exam.
> Since I preparing for the June LSAT, I will take their entrance exam
> after June. One concern that I have about Concord is, I can only sit
> for the California Bar.
>
> Concord does have a link that shows one of their graduates, who passed
> the California Bar, challenging the bar in the state he lives in to
> sit for that bar. He won his case and was able to sit for his state's bar.
>
> At any rate, I am eager to hear answers to your questions.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Anita Keith-Foust
> 919-430-1978
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Michal Nowicki via blindlaw
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 4:03 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by
> DeanandProfessors
>
> Dear Mr. Krugman and anyone else who has answers to my questions,
>
> I sincerely apologize for sending out this e-mail on Christmas Day,
> when everyone wants to spend time with family and get away from the
> hustle and bustle of everyday life. The potential gravity of this
> issue, however, has compelled me to waste no time.
>
> Mr. Krugman, could you be more specific about some of the ways in
> which graduate schools try to "mold" certain students into specific
> roles while "weeding out" others? For instance, do they force
> students to take certain classes, and if so, what methods do they employ
to achieve their objectives?
>
> I would also like to know if anyone on this list is aware of any
> patterns that trigger/drive such behavior. For example, does the rank
> of the program/school affect the likelihood that such incidents will
> occur? If so, should we watch out more for top-ranked universities or
lower-ranked once?
> What about public vs. private schools?
>
> Finally, please tell me how frequently blind graduate students
> encounter such obstacles. Are these problems considerably rare, or do
> they arise frequently enough that I should be legitimately concerned
> about them in choosing which law school to attend?
>
> Thank you in advance for your responses, and once again, I apologize
> if I disrupted your holidays.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Michal Nowicki
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Charles Krugman via blindlaw
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:53 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by
> DeanandProfessors
>
> Anita, what seems to have happened to you is very unfortunate but it
> happens to students in all disciplines of advanced study. I went to
> college and graduate school at a time before the ADA and my success
> depended only on what I did or didn't do. In the sixties and seventies
> as a student I had to make sure that materials that I needed were
> readily available and if they weren't I had to make sure that readers
> were hired to record them or get them recorded by volunteers. Later
> when I made a career change about 15 years ago and became a paralegal
> upon leaving the field of Social work when attending a community
> college I saw several students that were weeded out of the program in
> various ways. Law school especially does things to not only mold
> students in to certain roles but weeds out those who they feel might
> not make it in the profession. I have discussed with many sighted law
> students and lawyers the types of things that occurred in law school
> that could be considered to mold the individual in to a certain role.
> In some cases where I observed this taking place some of the people
> perhaps should for various reasons not have been in a particular academic
program and others were the victims of harassment or discrimination.
> Not knowing the specific circumstances of what was done I can only say
> that now that you know what was being done you can only assess the
> facts of the situation as well as how this impacts your desire to continue
to study law.
> You may want to consider transferring to another law school and you
> may also want to consider the legal remedies that are open to you to
> address what was done to you. This is not an easy situation for
> someone to be in because if they use legal remedies that are open and
> continue to study in the particular school in question there could be
> additional difficulties that may occur as a result of taking action.
> Whatever happens you will need to be very strong through this period
> and ask for much support from people who are around you and who are
sympathetic. I hope this helps.
> Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal
> 1237 P Street
> Fresno ca 93721
> 559-266-9237
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:26 PM
> To: 'Bryan Schulz' ; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by
> DeanandProfessors
>
> Wow!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Schulz [mailto:b.schulz at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:05 PM
> To: Anita Keith-Foust; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by Dean
> andProfessors
>
> hi,
>
> Your question is not limited to law.
> In Missouri, the supervisor of a district rehabilitation office forced
> one adaptive computing contractor out of business and forced another
> contractor to return to Florida when clients were assigned to her
> favored contractor that was twice as expensive and doesn't even reside in
Missouri.
> The result was loss of income and the first contractor is now seeking
> other computer related employment.
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 5:30 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] How to Cope? - Law Student Sabotaged by Dean
> andProfessors
>
>
>> Happy Holidays Everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have recently come across information that a particular law
>> school's dean and other faculty members secretly conspired to
>> "encourage" a visually impaired student not to complete law school.
>> They actually put the conspiracy in writing among themselves via email!
>>
>>
>>
>> They do not come straight out to the visually impaired student and
>> say that they are going to violate the Americans with Disability Act.
>> Nor do they say they will intentionally ignore the agreed upon
>> accommodations. The tactics they used include making it difficult by
>> refusing to put the documents in the right format, not giving the
>> documents (PowerPoints, etc.) in a timely fashion, and generally
>> refusing to follow the accommodations agreed upon.
>> By
>> the time the visually impaired student documents and files
>> complaints, they are behind in class. That is part of the plan to
>> convince the student that law school is not for them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you encountered this problem? If so, how did you deal with it?
>>
>>
>>
>> I also would like to know about the experiences of visually impaired
>> and blind students who successfully completed law school. For
>> example, did the professors follow the agreed upon accommodations?
>> Where your classes stationary, i.e., in the same classroom all day?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to know how blind and low vision law students cope with
>> the first year of law school when sabotage is the plan of the deans
>> and professors.
>>
>>
>>
>> What have your experiences been like?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anita Keith-Foust
>>
>> 919-430-1978
>>
>>
>>
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