From dandrews at visi.com  Wed Oct  1 15:16:21 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 10:16:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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The next version of JAWS, 16, will have the ability to do OCR on 
entire PDF's that are scanned images.

Dave

At 10:09 AM 9/29/2014, you wrote:
>Nuance PDF Pro or Nuance Power PDF are pretty  good softwares for OCR
>and creating PDF needs.
>
>On 9/29/14, Paul Wick via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > All,
> > If you happen to have full Adobe acrobat, and not just Adobe 
> Acrobat reader,
> > you can have it search for all possible OCR objects and change the
> > recognition resolution level as well; I have used it to fix many a badly
> > scanned PDF.
> >
> > Best,
> > Paul Wick
> > Berkeley, Calif.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via blindlaw
> >> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> kurzweil 1000. its software that does really good ocr. it also costs about
> >> 1000 dollars.
> >>
> >> sy
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 17:19, Shannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is k1,000?
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Shannon Geihsler
> >>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> >>> 1001 Main Street, Suite 803
> >>> Lubbock, Texas 79423
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> >>>
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> >>> please contact the sender and delete all copies.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura
> >>> Wolk
> >>> via blindlaw
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 AM
> >>> To: Sexton, bruce; Blind Law Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
> >>>
> >>> hi,
> >>>
> >>> you might try this service, which is free:
> >>> http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille
> >>>
> >>> I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws
> >>> and
> >>> k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has
> >>> turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word.
> >>> it
> >>> at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> Laura
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Bruce
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
> >>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
> >>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain
> >>>> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If
> >>>> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can
> >>>> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know
> >>>> which versions do?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve Jacobson
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built
> >>>>> into  MS
> >>>> Word.
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>>> On Behalf Of David Andrews
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
> >>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
> >>>>
> >>>>> If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do
> >>>>> no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the
> >>>>> PDF, or the
> >>>> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical
> >>>> character recognition, OCR.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes,
> >>>>>> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that
> >>>>>> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an
> >>>>>> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of
> >>>>>> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming
> >>>>>> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any
> >>>>>> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting
> >>>>>> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This
> >>>>>> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot
> >>>>>> be copied and pasted.
> >>>>
> >>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Thu Oct  9 17:25:56 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 11:25:56 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
Message-ID: <001b01cfe3e6$162e73c0$428b5b40$@labarrelaw.com>

My Federation Friends:

 

The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means cash
will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that transfer could
happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an amazing raffle for
$3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three, multiples
thereof available.  Please go to www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to
purchase your tickets online.  The drawing will be on the evening of
Saturday, November 1st at our annual banquet and you need not be present to
win.  Please help support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy
now, buy often, and good luck!

 

Scott LaBarre, President

NFB Colorado  


From timothy.blanchett at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 19:29:31 2014
From: timothy.blanchett at gmail.com (Timothy Blanchett)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:29:31 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
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a question for anyone that can help.  I went in to dial America to
interview for a job as a sales rep in a call center after applying.  I
walked in and a lady fredrica greated me at the door stating I have a
dog and she is scared of dogs and for someone else to help me.  So
next a anita walked up and took me in to her office for the interview.
However she did not do an interview she asked me why I did not put on
my application that I was blind.  I stated it did not ask me if I was
blind.  She then asked me if I knew I was applying for a call center
job.  I replied yes I have 12 years experience in a call center
setting and was fully aware of the job I had applied for.  She then
took about 30 minutes providing every reason she did not think a
accomidation could be made and I explained as to how it could be done.
She never did an interview.  I then stood up and thanked her for her
time and walked out.  I called her manager Curtis the next day and
explained everything to him.  He said he would need to talk to corp hr
about everything and get back to me as to if a reasonable accomidation
could be made.  2 weeks later he called me and stated they had another
rep in the past that was a jaws user and it had been done before in
the past and that they would need to get jaws set up on their system
and after that is done they would call me in for an interview at that
point.  I asked him how long that would take and he replied it may
take 6 months however he could not give me a time frame.  I feel I was
discriminated against and want to file a law suit any help on how to
do so?  Timothy Blanchett  423-441-0982

On 10/9/14, Scott C. LaBarre via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My Federation Friends:
>
>
>
> The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means cash
> will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that transfer could
> happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an amazing raffle for
> $3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three, multiples
> thereof available.  Please go to www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to
> purchase your tickets online.  The drawing will be on the evening of
> Saturday, November 1st at our annual banquet and you need not be present to
> win.  Please help support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy
> now, buy often, and good luck!
>
>
>
> Scott LaBarre, President
>
> NFB Colorado
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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> blindlaw:
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From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com  Thu Oct  9 19:44:41 2014
From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:44:41 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
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Sue!

Where did this happen -- what city and state?

Perhaps there is an attorney in that community who would be willing to help.
If not, contact me off list at emplmntattorney at gmail.com, 949.752.0101 and I
will try to help you find someone.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
Blanchett via blindlaw
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:30 PM
To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500

a question for anyone that can help.  I went in to dial America to interview
for a job as a sales rep in a call center after applying.  I walked in and a
lady fredrica greated me at the door stating I have a dog and she is scared
of dogs and for someone else to help me.  So next a anita walked up and took
me in to her office for the interview.
However she did not do an interview she asked me why I did not put on my
application that I was blind.  I stated it did not ask me if I was blind.
She then asked me if I knew I was applying for a call center job.  I replied
yes I have 12 years experience in a call center setting and was fully aware
of the job I had applied for.  She then took about 30 minutes providing
every reason she did not think a accomidation could be made and I explained
as to how it could be done.
She never did an interview.  I then stood up and thanked her for her time
and walked out.  I called her manager Curtis the next day and explained
everything to him.  He said he would need to talk to corp hr about
everything and get back to me as to if a reasonable accomidation could be
made.  2 weeks later he called me and stated they had another rep in the
past that was a jaws user and it had been done before in the past and that
they would need to get jaws set up on their system and after that is done
they would call me in for an interview at that point.  I asked him how long
that would take and he replied it may take 6 months however he could not
give me a time frame.  I feel I was discriminated against and want to file a
law suit any help on how to do so?  Timothy Blanchett  423-441-0982

On 10/9/14, Scott C. LaBarre via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My Federation Friends:
>
>
>
> The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means 
> cash will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that 
> transfer could happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an 
> amazing raffle for
> $3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three, 
> multiples thereof available.  Please go to 
> www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase your tickets online.  
> The drawing will be on the evening of Saturday, November 1st at our 
> annual banquet and you need not be present to win.  Please help 
> support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy now, buy often,
and good luck!
>
>
>
> Scott LaBarre, President
>
> NFB Colorado
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindlaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timothy.blanchet
> t%40gmail.com
>

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ney.com



From jfetter at nd.edu  Thu Oct  9 20:11:40 2014
From: jfetter at nd.edu (James Fetter)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:11:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Working as advocate for the blind,
	viable career possibility?
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References: <001b01cfe3e6$162e73c0$428b5b40$@labarrelaw.com>	<CA+wZEUO-PiDsTtOAFntyW3k95BpfxV9q4DUaz=nc2tvY4an4+w@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear list,
I hope this finds you all well. I am very seriously considering law 
school for next fall; I previously got a Ph.D. in Political Science and, 
for a variety of professional and personal reasons, am making the 
transition from academia to something, most likely the legal field, 
which has better, if not excellent, career prospects and more practical 
impact. I would be curious to learn more from those  doing a significant 
amount of work advocating for the blind and/or representing blind and 
other disabled clients about possibilities for making a career out of 
doing this kind of work. Is the market already overcrowded with lawyers 
working on disability advocacy in some form, or do those of you in this 
area have more clients than you can handle? I recognize that law is a 
potentially wide open field, and of course markets can and do constantly 
change, but I would still appreciate learning more about whether it is 
realistic for a potential new entrant into the legal market to 
contemplate a career focusing to one degree or another on advocating for 
and representing the blind. Please feel free to contact me off list at 
jtfetter at yahoo.com as well. Thanks.
Sincerely,
James


On 10/9/2014 3:44 PM, Russell J. Thomas via blindlaw wrote:
> Sue!
>
> Where did this happen -- what city and state?
>
> Perhaps there is an attorney in that community who would be willing to help.
> If not, contact me off list at emplmntattorney at gmail.com, 949.752.0101 and I
> will try to help you find someone.
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
> Blanchett via blindlaw
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:30 PM
> To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
>
> a question for anyone that can help.  I went in to dial America to interview
> for a job as a sales rep in a call center after applying.  I walked in and a
> lady fredrica greated me at the door stating I have a dog and she is scared
> of dogs and for someone else to help me.  So next a anita walked up and took
> me in to her office for the interview.
> However she did not do an interview she asked me why I did not put on my
> application that I was blind.  I stated it did not ask me if I was blind.
> She then asked me if I knew I was applying for a call center job.  I replied
> yes I have 12 years experience in a call center setting and was fully aware
> of the job I had applied for.  She then took about 30 minutes providing
> every reason she did not think a accomidation could be made and I explained
> as to how it could be done.
> She never did an interview.  I then stood up and thanked her for her time
> and walked out.  I called her manager Curtis the next day and explained
> everything to him.  He said he would need to talk to corp hr about
> everything and get back to me as to if a reasonable accomidation could be
> made.  2 weeks later he called me and stated they had another rep in the
> past that was a jaws user and it had been done before in the past and that
> they would need to get jaws set up on their system and after that is done
> they would call me in for an interview at that point.  I asked him how long
> that would take and he replied it may take 6 months however he could not
> give me a time frame.  I feel I was discriminated against and want to file a
> law suit any help on how to do so?  Timothy Blanchett  423-441-0982
>
> On 10/9/14, Scott C. LaBarre via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> My Federation Friends:
>>
>>
>>
>> The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means
>> cash will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that
>> transfer could happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an
>> amazing raffle for
>> $3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three,
>> multiples thereof available.  Please go to
>> www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase your tickets online.
>> The drawing will be on the evening of Saturday, November 1st at our
>> annual banquet and you need not be present to win.  Please help
>> support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy now, buy often,
> and good luck!
>>
>>
>> Scott LaBarre, President
>>
>> NFB Colorado
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindlaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timothy.blanchet
>> t%40gmail.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindlaw:
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> ney.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From awildheir at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 21:09:20 2014
From: awildheir at gmail.com (Aimee Harwood)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:09:20 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Working as advocate for the blind,
	viable career possibility?
In-Reply-To: <5436EBFC.3070804@nd.edu>
References: <001b01cfe3e6$162e73c0$428b5b40$@labarrelaw.com>
	<CA+wZEUO-PiDsTtOAFntyW3k95BpfxV9q4DUaz=nc2tvY4an4+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<000601cfe3f9$7a2439b0$6e6cad10$@com> <5436EBFC.3070804@nd.edu>
Message-ID: <30DD9210-0AA8-4C41-A8EB-6AA830C71E62@gmail.com>

Please reply on list or add me to the recipients because I am interested in the responses.

Aimee

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:11 PM, James Fetter via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear list,
> I hope this finds you all well. I am very seriously considering law school for next fall; I previously got a Ph.D. in Political Science and, for a variety of professional and personal reasons, am making the transition from academia to something, most likely the legal field, which has better, if not excellent, career prospects and more practical impact. I would be curious to learn more from those  doing a significant amount of work advocating for the blind and/or representing blind and other disabled clients about possibilities for making a career out of doing this kind of work. Is the market already overcrowded with lawyers working on disability advocacy in some form, or do those of you in this area have more clients than you can handle? I recognize that law is a potentially wide open field, and of course markets can and do constantly change, but I would still appreciate learning more about whether it is realistic for a potential new entrant into the legal market to contemplate a career focusing to one degree or another on advocating for and representing the blind. Please feel free to contact me off list at jtfetter at yahoo.com as well. Thanks.
> Sincerely,
> James
> 
> 
>> On 10/9/2014 3:44 PM, Russell J. Thomas via blindlaw wrote:
>> Sue!
>> 
>> Where did this happen -- what city and state?
>> 
>> Perhaps there is an attorney in that community who would be willing to help.
>> If not, contact me off list at emplmntattorney at gmail.com, 949.752.0101 and I
>> will try to help you find someone.
>> 
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
>> Blanchett via blindlaw
>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:30 PM
>> To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com; Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
>> 
>> a question for anyone that can help.  I went in to dial America to interview
>> for a job as a sales rep in a call center after applying.  I walked in and a
>> lady fredrica greated me at the door stating I have a dog and she is scared
>> of dogs and for someone else to help me.  So next a anita walked up and took
>> me in to her office for the interview.
>> However she did not do an interview she asked me why I did not put on my
>> application that I was blind.  I stated it did not ask me if I was blind.
>> She then asked me if I knew I was applying for a call center job.  I replied
>> yes I have 12 years experience in a call center setting and was fully aware
>> of the job I had applied for.  She then took about 30 minutes providing
>> every reason she did not think a accomidation could be made and I explained
>> as to how it could be done.
>> She never did an interview.  I then stood up and thanked her for her time
>> and walked out.  I called her manager Curtis the next day and explained
>> everything to him.  He said he would need to talk to corp hr about
>> everything and get back to me as to if a reasonable accomidation could be
>> made.  2 weeks later he called me and stated they had another rep in the
>> past that was a jaws user and it had been done before in the past and that
>> they would need to get jaws set up on their system and after that is done
>> they would call me in for an interview at that point.  I asked him how long
>> that would take and he replied it may take 6 months however he could not
>> give me a time frame.  I feel I was discriminated against and want to file a
>> law suit any help on how to do so?  Timothy Blanchett  423-441-0982
>> 
>>> On 10/9/14, Scott C. LaBarre via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> My Federation Friends:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means
>>> cash will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that
>>> transfer could happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an
>>> amazing raffle for
>>> $3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three,
>>> multiples thereof available.  Please go to
>>> www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase your tickets online.
>>> The drawing will be on the evening of Saturday, November 1st at our
>>> annual banquet and you need not be present to win.  Please help
>>> support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy now, buy often,
>> and good luck!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scott LaBarre, President
>>> 
>>> NFB Colorado
>>> 
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 22:15:17 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:15:17 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Working as advocate for the blind,
	viable career possibility?
In-Reply-To: <30DD9210-0AA8-4C41-A8EB-6AA830C71E62@gmail.com>
References: <001b01cfe3e6$162e73c0$428b5b40$@labarrelaw.com><CA+wZEUO-PiDsTtOAFntyW3k95BpfxV9q4DUaz=nc2tvY4an4+w@mail.gmail.com><000601cfe3f9$7a2439b0$6e6cad10$@com>
	<5436EBFC.3070804@nd.edu>
	<30DD9210-0AA8-4C41-A8EB-6AA830C71E62@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3253FF5D4FE4CC8B24F1A2DFACC0F1F@robinaPC>

Amy, Please add me on skype. smallistbaby1979 RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aimee Harwood via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: "James Fetter" <jfetter at nd.edu>; "Blind Law Mailing List" 
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Working as advocate for the blind,viable career 
possibility?


> Please reply on list or add me to the recipients because I am interested 
> in the responses.
>
> Aimee
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:11 PM, James Fetter via blindlaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear list,
>> I hope this finds you all well. I am very seriously considering law 
>> school for next fall; I previously got a Ph.D. in Political Science and, 
>> for a variety of professional and personal reasons, am making the 
>> transition from academia to something, most likely the legal field, which 
>> has better, if not excellent, career prospects and more practical impact. 
>> I would be curious to learn more from those  doing a significant amount 
>> of work advocating for the blind and/or representing blind and other 
>> disabled clients about possibilities for making a career out of doing 
>> this kind of work. Is the market already overcrowded with lawyers working 
>> on disability advocacy in some form, or do those of you in this area have 
>> more clients than you can handle? I recognize that law is a potentially 
>> wide open field, and of course markets can and do constantly change, but 
>> I would still appreciate learning more about whether it is realistic for 
>> a potential new entrant into the legal market to contemplate a career 
>> focusing to one degree or another on advocating for and representing the 
>> blind. Please feel free to contact me off list at jtfetter at yahoo.com as 
>> well. Thanks.
>> Sincerely,
>> James
>>
>>
>>> On 10/9/2014 3:44 PM, Russell J. Thomas via blindlaw wrote:
>>> Sue!
>>>
>>> Where did this happen -- what city and state?
>>>
>>> Perhaps there is an attorney in that community who would be willing to 
>>> help.
>>> If not, contact me off list at emplmntattorney at gmail.com, 949.752.0101 
>>> and I
>>> will try to help you find someone.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
>>> Blanchett via blindlaw
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:30 PM
>>> To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com; Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Everyone Needs $3500
>>>
>>> a question for anyone that can help.  I went in to dial America to 
>>> interview
>>> for a job as a sales rep in a call center after applying.  I walked in 
>>> and a
>>> lady fredrica greated me at the door stating I have a dog and she is 
>>> scared
>>> of dogs and for someone else to help me.  So next a anita walked up and 
>>> took
>>> me in to her office for the interview.
>>> However she did not do an interview she asked me why I did not put on my
>>> application that I was blind.  I stated it did not ask me if I was 
>>> blind.
>>> She then asked me if I knew I was applying for a call center job.  I 
>>> replied
>>> yes I have 12 years experience in a call center setting and was fully 
>>> aware
>>> of the job I had applied for.  She then took about 30 minutes providing
>>> every reason she did not think a accomidation could be made and I 
>>> explained
>>> as to how it could be done.
>>> She never did an interview.  I then stood up and thanked her for her 
>>> time
>>> and walked out.  I called her manager Curtis the next day and explained
>>> everything to him.  He said he would need to talk to corp hr about
>>> everything and get back to me as to if a reasonable accomidation could 
>>> be
>>> made.  2 weeks later he called me and stated they had another rep in the
>>> past that was a jaws user and it had been done before in the past and 
>>> that
>>> they would need to get jaws set up on their system and after that is 
>>> done
>>> they would call me in for an interview at that point.  I asked him how 
>>> long
>>> that would take and he replied it may take 6 months however he could not
>>> give me a time frame.  I feel I was discriminated against and want to 
>>> file a
>>> law suit any help on how to do so?  Timothy Blanchett  423-441-0982
>>>
>>>> On 10/9/14, Scott C. LaBarre via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> My Federation Friends:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The annual convention of the NFB of Colorado draws nye and that means
>>>> cash will change hands.  A transfer of wealth will occur and that
>>>> transfer could happen to you.  The NFB of Colorado is sponsoring an
>>>> amazing raffle for
>>>> $3500.00 in cash.  Tickets are $10 for one and $20 for three,
>>>> multiples thereof available.  Please go to
>>>> www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase your tickets online.
>>>> The drawing will be on the evening of Saturday, November 1st at our
>>>> annual banquet and you need not be present to win.  Please help
>>>> support our scholarship programs and Colorado BELL.  Buy now, buy 
>>>> often,
>>> and good luck!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott LaBarre, President
>>>>
>>>> NFB Colorado
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> blindlaw:
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>>>> t%40gmail.com
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>>>
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From chris.stewart at uky.edu  Sat Oct 11 20:29:18 2014
From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:29:18 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind
Message-ID: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I'm a law student, and I recently applied for life insurance. I
received a denial of coverage letter stating that I was denied because
of my blindness. Specifically, they said I was denied because of
"sickler's syndrome."

I don't have "sickler's syndrome." I may have "Stickler's Syndrome"
but have never gotten the genetic test. Regardless, Stickler's has no
impact on life expectancy or mental capacity. The misspelling of my
condition lets me know I was very likely denied because I am blind.

I realize that, if blindness is a result of some condition that
significantly decreases life expectancy, a life insurance company may
have a reason to deny coverage. However, in my case, all actuarial
data indicates no impact.

I'm having trouble finding any sort of law or case that holds that a
person can't be denied coverage simply because of blindness. I'd like
to cite legal precedent in my appeals letter, and I'd appreciate any
advice.

Best,
Chris


-- 
Chris K. Stewart
University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016
Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal
Co-President, American Constitution Society
California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
Ph:
(502)457-1757


From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Sun Oct 12 13:12:36 2014
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:12:36 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <418D31BA-F44D-4F85-AA3F-1AC7D327277E@wcbvi.k12.wi.us>

-1978NAIC decision applies. Check with your insurance commissioner. Many states passed relvant legislation around 1980. Check the monitor for articles by James Omvig around that time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2014, at 3:29 PM, "Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm a law student, and I recently applied for life insurance. I
> received a denial of coverage letter stating that I was denied because
> of my blindness. Specifically, they said I was denied because of
> "sickler's syndrome."
> 
> I don't have "sickler's syndrome." I may have "Stickler's Syndrome"
> but have never gotten the genetic test. Regardless, Stickler's has no
> impact on life expectancy or mental capacity. The misspelling of my
> condition lets me know I was very likely denied because I am blind.
> 
> I realize that, if blindness is a result of some condition that
> significantly decreases life expectancy, a life insurance company may
> have a reason to deny coverage. However, in my case, all actuarial
> data indicates no impact.
> 
> I'm having trouble finding any sort of law or case that holds that a
> person can't be denied coverage simply because of blindness. I'd like
> to cite legal precedent in my appeals letter, and I'd appreciate any
> advice.
> 
> Best,
> Chris
> 
> 
> -- 
> Chris K. Stewart
> University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016
> Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal
> Co-President, American Constitution Society
> California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
> Ph:
> (502)457-1757
> 
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From jty727 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 01:04:48 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:04:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s7=o53sQT1xBHhyaV=tnOGnm0RfwBmX1fn8hf-Bm67SeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
any would show the other changes made.

Thanks in advance!

Justin


From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Tue Oct 14 01:10:13 2014
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (Ray Wayne)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:10:13 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <CA+3U9s7=o53sQT1xBHhyaV=tnOGnm0RfwBmX1fn8hf-Bm67SeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3U9s7=o53sQT1xBHhyaV=tnOGnm0RfwBmX1fn8hf-Bm67SeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F66F0E9C56AC4A14A181C050F1B5551C@RayWaynePC>

I believe control-shift-e turns it on or off. But I have never used it, so I 
will leave the rest to those more knowledgeable than I.
Ray Wayne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Young via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: "National list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:04 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word


Hello All,

Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
any would show the other changes made.

Thanks in advance!

Justin

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From chris.stewart at uky.edu  Tue Oct 14 12:06:12 2014
From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:06:12 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] track changes in word
Message-ID: <CAAyF1PASZU+yeD_xk_H-rKEWRE3yOwUrZLUX1OybuLN45X82dg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Use control shift E to turn them on.
Then, if you want to move around by revision, press jaws-key and Z to
turn on quick keys. R is the quick key to move around by revision. N
is the quick key to move by comment. I hope this was helpful.

Best,
Chris


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> From: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com>
> To: National list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, Blind List
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hello All,
>
> Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
> may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
> to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
> know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
> I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
> any would show the other changes made.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:10:13 -0400
> From: "Ray Wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
> To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>,	"Blind Law Mailing List"
> 	<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
> Message-ID: <F66F0E9C56AC4A14A181C050F1B5551C at RayWaynePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I believe control-shift-e turns it on or off. But I have never used it, so I
>
> will leave the rest to those more knowledgeable than I.
> Ray Wayne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Young via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> To: "National list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:04 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
> may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
> to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
> know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
> I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
> any would show the other changes made.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Justin
>
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-- 
Chris K. Stewart
University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016
Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal
Co-President, American Constitution Society
California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
Ph:
(502)457-1757


From rthomas at emplmntattorney.com  Tue Oct 14 16:07:23 2014
From: rthomas at emplmntattorney.com (Russell J. Thomas)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:07:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601cfe7c8$f1aa77b0$d4ff6710$@com>

What insurance carrier was involved?

Find an insurance agent that represents a well-established insurance
company. Presumably, such a company will know the rules. If you had a
condition that would disqualify you, blindness or not, there is nothing you
can do.

In my case, I have had insurance through John Hancock for more than 30
years. The only reservation on my policies has been the denial of double
indemnity for accidental death.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart,
Christopher K via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:29 PM
To: blindlaw
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind

Hello All,

I'm a law student, and I recently applied for life insurance. I received a
denial of coverage letter stating that I was denied because of my blindness.
Specifically, they said I was denied because of "sickler's syndrome."

I don't have "sickler's syndrome." I may have "Stickler's Syndrome"
but have never gotten the genetic test. Regardless, Stickler's has no impact
on life expectancy or mental capacity. The misspelling of my condition lets
me know I was very likely denied because I am blind.

I realize that, if blindness is a result of some condition that
significantly decreases life expectancy, a life insurance company may have a
reason to deny coverage. However, in my case, all actuarial data indicates
no impact.

I'm having trouble finding any sort of law or case that holds that a person
can't be denied coverage simply because of blindness. I'd like to cite legal
precedent in my appeals letter, and I'd appreciate any advice.

Best,
Chris


--
Chris K. Stewart
University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Staff Editor,
Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society California
Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
Ph:
(502)457-1757

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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Oct 14 17:03:45 2014
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:03:45 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <000601cfe7c8$f1aa77b0$d4ff6710$@com>
References: <CAAyF1PBHo3KVxQW3kdg=6BH6GAySmrWJmFUz2KAuXd_KX=4weQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Not that AD&D is worth anything, but under the National Association of Insurance Commissioners recommendations in 1978, which many states passed over the next few years, you may not be denied coverage for either health or life insurance. This would include AD&D. What it might exclude dealing with blindness might be a rider stating that the loss of a prosthetic eye or eyes would not represent a lost requiring payment of either the principle or capital sum. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas via blindlaw
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:07 AM
To: 'Stewart, Christopher K'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind

What insurance carrier was involved?

Find an insurance agent that represents a well-established insurance company. Presumably, such a company will know the rules. If you had a condition that would disqualify you, blindness or not, there is nothing you can do.

In my case, I have had insurance through John Hancock for more than 30 years. The only reservation on my policies has been the denial of double indemnity for accidental death.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:29 PM
To: blindlaw
Subject: [blindlaw] Life Insurance Coverage for the Blind

Hello All,

I'm a law student, and I recently applied for life insurance. I received a denial of coverage letter stating that I was denied because of my blindness.
Specifically, they said I was denied because of "sickler's syndrome."

I don't have "sickler's syndrome." I may have "Stickler's Syndrome"
but have never gotten the genetic test. Regardless, Stickler's has no impact on life expectancy or mental capacity. The misspelling of my condition lets me know I was very likely denied because I am blind.

I realize that, if blindness is a result of some condition that significantly decreases life expectancy, a life insurance company may have a reason to deny coverage. However, in my case, all actuarial data indicates no impact.

I'm having trouble finding any sort of law or case that holds that a person can't be denied coverage simply because of blindness. I'd like to cite legal precedent in my appeals letter, and I'd appreciate any advice.

Best,
Chris


--
Chris K. Stewart
University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
Ph:
(502)457-1757

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From Charles.Martinez at pima.gov  Tue Oct 14 18:10:36 2014
From: Charles.Martinez at pima.gov (Charles Martinez)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:10:36 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 125, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.35.1413288002.31526.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.35.1413288002.31526.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <9DF9E9C154721A44936A15C3BC41F4BE38165DDA@SPEXCHMB01.central.pima.gov>

My suggestion is to keep it as simple as possible, but if that doesn't work - start with simple and then get creative.

Word will utilize the Alt+___ (whatever) character combination with JAWS running; try to remember that JAWS will create a customized keyboard map for individual applications and creating an entry in that keyboard configuration file can be a little bit of work.

Try using Alt+R (to get to the Review ribbon commands) and then choose "G" for turning on/off the Track Changes feature.

Otherwise, creating an entry in the keyboard file for Tracking Changes may be more difficult than creating a Macro in Word that automatically maps key-combos that enable/disable Tracking Changes.
Hope this helps!

Charlie Martinez

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   1. Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word (Justin Young)
   2. Re: Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word (Ray Wayne)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:04:48 -0400
From: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com>
To: National list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, Blind List
	<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
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Hello All,

Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if any would show the other changes made.

Thanks in advance!

Justin



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:10:13 -0400
From: "Ray Wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>,	"Blind Law Mailing List"
	<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
Message-ID: <F66F0E9C56AC4A14A181C050F1B5551C at RayWaynePC>
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I believe control-shift-e turns it on or off. But I have never used it, so I will leave the rest to those more knowledgeable than I.
Ray Wayne

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To: "National list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:04 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word


Hello All,

Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
any would show the other changes made.

Thanks in advance!

Justin

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From b75205 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 19:12:04 2014
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:12:04 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Purposely turning off accessibility in government forms
Message-ID: <CADmQu+7DndOt5ziCF5L6a5L-XAUmAxRQSRnkUUATN06_ccYAmg@mail.gmail.com>

I have found government forms where the forms designer has purposely turned
off accessibility settings. They make the forms to be accessible and then
they turn off the settings so the forms will pass accessibility tests but
are unusable. The purpose is to double bill the government for their work,
by first creating a form with accessibility features and then they go into
each form field and turn off the accessibility for the standard form. The
government is paying for two forms and for the time it takes to turn off
the accessibility on each item, on each line of each form.  I have tested
over 2400 government forms and found only 120 of them that have
accessibility settings set.  This covers over 20 federal agencies.

Who should I contact to fix this problem because when I approach agencies
they send me to the very same people who did this work and they have no
intention of fixing the problem.  There doesn't seem to be any oversight.

James Pepper

From jty727 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:35:51 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:35:51 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
In-Reply-To: <F66F0E9C56AC4A14A181C050F1B5551C@RayWaynePC>
References: <CA+3U9s7=o53sQT1xBHhyaV=tnOGnm0RfwBmX1fn8hf-Bm67SeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F66F0E9C56AC4A14A181C050F1B5551C@RayWaynePC>
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s4hi10JTzdLRou9ZWi1eqK2ML=nQJ-kirLnqurHG0eypA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the help though Ray!  One more keyboard command I didn't know, haha!

Justin

On 10/13/14, Ray Wayne <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> I believe control-shift-e turns it on or off. But I have never used it, so I
>
> will leave the rest to those more knowledgeable than I.
> Ray Wayne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Young via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> To: "National list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:04 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard Commands for Tracking Changes in Word
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Hope this message finds you well.  I am sending it to the 2 lists who
> may have someone who may know the answer to my question.  I am trying
> to figure out the JAWS keyboard commands for Track Changes in Word?  I
> know of Control+Shift+', but don't know any others.  The only command
> I know brings up a list of the comments made, but I don't know what if
> any would show the other changes made.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Justin
>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 15 19:07:01 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:07:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Notice: Disability Rights Washington is Hiring - Please
	share.
Message-ID: <04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2DB7B45@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>



From: Jodi Rose [mailto:jodir at dr-wa.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:04 PM
To: Jodi Rose
Subject: Minority Bar Associations Notice: Disability Rights Washington is Hiring - Please share.

Hello,

We are seeking to fill two civil rights attorney positions. If you could share with your members or anyone you think may be interested, we would appreciate it. The positions are open until filled, but the deadline is October 27, 2014 for applications as we are looking to fill these spots quickly.

Please share this link: http://www.disabilityrightswa.org/drw-hiring-civil-rights-attorneys

Thank you,

Jodi Rose
Executive Assistant

Disability Rights Washington
315 5th Avenue S, Suite 850 | Seattle, WA 98104

voice: 206.324.1521 or 800.562.2702 | fax: 206.957.0729
www.disabilityrightswa.org<http://www.disabilityrightswa.org/> | www.disabilityrightsgalaxy.com<http://www.disabilityrightsgalaxy.com/> | donate to DRW<http://www.disabilityrightswa.org/donate-now>


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 16 18:34:18 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:34:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] City OF SEATTLE Dept. of Transportation Title II ADA
 Coordinator job announcement
Message-ID: <04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2DB7CE9@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>


Link:
http://agency.governmentjobs.com/seattle/job_bulletin.cfm?JobID=969106

Text:
CITY OF SEATTLE
SDOT Title II ADA Coordinator (SA2-GG)
Salary: $37.87 - $56.82 Hourly

Location: Seattle Municipal Tower, 700 5th Ave., Seattle, Washington
Job Type: Classified Civil Service, Regular, Full-Time
Shift: Day
Department: Seattle Department of Transportation
Bargaining Unit: Not represented
Closing Date 10/28/14 04:00 PM Pacific Time

Position Description:

The Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) is a recognized leader in the delivery of pedestrian safety and accessible improvements for the City of Seattle and seeking qualified individuals to join our team!



At this time SDOT is seeking an experienced, creative team member to serve as SDOT's Title II ADA Coordinator. This knowledgeable and self-motivated individual will lead SDOT in the implementation of and compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (Section 504).



This key role will be responsible for coordinating and leading the development of policies, design guidelines, and setting milestones for achieving ADA and Section 504 compliance in our Public Right-of-Way. This position will report to the SDOT Director's Office, and will be a key member of the SDOT Leadership Team. The incumbent will play an essential role in shaping strategic direction, developing grant and City budget requests, coordinating compliance throughout the Department, working with other City Department ADA coordinators, and supporting the implementation of accessible improvements throughout the City. Position will support departmental goals in promoting diversity, race, and social justice.


Job Responsibilities:

Technical

§   Preparing Technical Design Memorandum and Client Assistance Memos for highly complex engineering design elements related to ADA and Section 504 compliance.

§   Providing technical guidance for the 2015 Right-of-Way Improvement Manual (ROWIM) update.

§   Reviewing Capital Improvement Project Plans and verifying ADA and Section 504 compliant design.

§   Serve as a resident expert for current and proposed standards for accessibility of the pedestrian Right-of-Way.



Project Management

§   Leading the SDOT ADA Committee through preparing meeting agendas and minutes.

§   Leading the development and completion of an ADA Self-Evaluation for infrastructure in the Public Right-of-Way, and

§   Leading the development and completion of an ADA Transition Plan.



Coordination and Outreach

§   Serve as the Department's point of contact for citizen inquiries, regular briefings for SDOT Division Directors and Department Director.

§   Coordination with WSDOT Highway Local Programs & local FHWA representatives and coordination with US Access Board members.

§   Briefings and presentations to Seattle's Pedestrian Advisory Board and Commission for People with Disabilities, and

§   Serves as SDOT's point of contact for the Seattle City Attorney's Office.



Training and Continuing Education

§   Leading internal workshops and training on compliance with and current interpretations of the ADA, Section 504, and applicable federal and state regulations, standards, and design guidelines.

§   Organizing external training opportunities such as webinars; and attending external training to remain aware and current with compliance with and current interpretations of the ADA, Section 504, and applicable federal and state regulations, standards, and design guidelines.

Qualifications:

Required Qualifications

§  The equivalent of a Bachelor's degree in Urban Planning, Architecture, Public Policy, Civil Engineering, Civil Engineering Technology; or related field.

§   Five years of professional experience successfully developing policy and best practices and providing technical expertise in ADA issues in the City's Right-of-Way including; In-depth knowledge of ADA and Section 504 Law, Standards, and Design Guidance as they apply to the Public Right-of-Way.

§   Ability to effectively work in a multi-cultural workplace with a diverse customer base.


Additional Information:

Desired Qualifications

§   Master's degree in Civil Engineering, Public Administration, Public Policy, Urban Planning, Architecture, or Law.

§   First-hand experience with the challenges associated with negotiating the Public Right-of-Way.

§   Completion of ADA Coordinator Training Certification Program (ACTCP).

§   Project Management experience.

§   Facilitation, negotiation, decision-making, conflict resolution skills.

§   Previous experience in developing and completing ADA Self-Evaluation and Transition Plans.

§   Knowledge of the principles, practices and procedures related to Title II of ADA, and the adopted Design Standards and Design Guidance, and Section 504.

§   Ability to communicate effectively both verbally and in writing.

§   Ability to facilitate resolutions of public complaints relative to ADA and Section 504, as well as experience working with people with disabilities as important stakeholders.

§   Multilingual ability a plus.



How to Apply

To be considered for this outstanding career opportunity, the following items are required to be considered for this position:



1. Completed NEO-GOV online (or paper) application.

2. Supplemental questionnaire responses.

3. A cover letter AND résumé.



Note: Job offer is contingent upon verification of credentials and other information required by the employment process including completion of a background check which includes criminal history and a driving history review.




To learn more about Seattle Department of Transportation, visit our webpage.


http://www.seattle.gov/jobs
SDOT TITLE II ADA COORDINATOR (SA2-GG)
JK APPLICATIONS MAY BE FILED ONLINE AT:
Job #2014-01023

If you are unable to apply on-line you may submit a paper application by the closing date to our office.

OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT:
Seattle Municipal Tower
700 5th Avenue, Suite 5400
Seattle, WA 98104
206-684-8088
Careers at seattle.gov<mailto:Careers at seattle.gov>

The City of Seattle is an Equal Opportunity Employer that is committed to diversity in the workplace. Accommodations for people with disabilities are provided on request. The City is a Drug Free Workplace.

SDOT Title II ADA Coordinator (SA2-GG) Supplemental Questionnaire

* 1. Describe your knowledge of ADA and Section 504 Law, Standards, and Design Guidance as they apply to the Public Right-of-Way.



* 2. Describe your project management experience.



* 3. Describe your conflict resolution skills.



* Required Question

From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Oct 16 20:13:21 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:13:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] WA State Dept. of Health Director of Legal Services (WMS
 Band 3) - (DOH2499) job announcement
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Message-ID: <04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2DB7D32@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>


Link:
http://agency.governmentjobs.com/washington/default.cfm?action=viewJob&jobID=984983

Text:
State of Washington
Dept. of Health
invites applications for the position of:
Director of Legal Services (WMS Band 3) - (DOH2499)

SALARY:  $80,892.00 - $103,524.00 Annually

OPENING DATE: 10/13/14

CLOSING DATE: 11/02/14 11:59 PM

DESCRIPTION:

The Washington State Department of Health, Division of Health Systems Quality Assurance (HSQA) - Office of Legal Services (OLS) is searching for an innovative and collaborative legal professional with leadership competencies to fill the position of Director of Legal Services.

The Division of Health Systems Quality Assurance's vision is to be the leader in patient safety, prevention, and health system development. HSQA is responsible for overseeing the Washington State's health care delivery system which includes licensing and regulating approximately 400,000 health care professionals and 7,000 facilities. We work closely with communities and local health partners to build strong health systems and prevention programs across the state to help communities have access to quality health care and emergency medical services.

The Director of Legal Services leads an office of 42 committed professionals focused on assuring patient safety, public health, and access to quality health care for everyone in the state of Washington.  Legal services are provided under the terms of a memorandum of understanding between the Department of Health and the Washington State Attorney General's Office.

We are looking for candidates who are excited about:

* Energizing others to generate support for changes that promote and enhance patient safety and access to health care.

* Leading a team of diverse professionals with a budget of approximately $7 million.

* Providing quality legal services with statewide impacts.

* Effectively influencing state and federal agencies; industry associations, boards, and commissions; legislators; and executive management to achieve strategic goals.

* Making recommendations on issues that threaten public health safety.

* Evaluating performance and making decisions to improve and enhance deliverables and outcomes.


To learn more about the position and to view the complete position description, visit http://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/9400/DOH2499_-_PDF.doc.

To learn more about HSQA, visit http://www.doh.wa.gov/AboutUs/ProgramsandServices/HealthSystemsQualityAssurance

Agency Profile

The Washington State Department of Health works with federal, state, and local partners to help people in Washington stay healthy and safe.  Our programs and services help prevent illness and injury, promote healthy places to live and work, provide education to help people make good health decisions and ensure our state is prepared for emergencies.  DOH recognizes that employees are our most valuable resource.  We trust them to be innovative, challenge existing processes, and make the best decisions.  We strive to hire, develop, and retain a competent and diverse workforce.  To learn more about DOH, visit http://www.doh.wa.gov.

About Washington State and the City of Tumwater

Within Washington's boundaries, one can find oceans, rain forests, mountains, and deserts.  For the outdoor enthusiast, the options for recreation are almost limitless and include skiing, backpacking, and camping.  Eastern Washington offers a dry, semiarid climate and is a gateway to spectacular wilderness areas in northern and central Idaho, northeastern Washington, and Canada.  Access to large bodies of both fresh and salt water offer the boating, sailing, and windsurfing enthusiast boundless opportunity.  The state also boasts some of the best hunting and fishing in the entire country.

Washington is viewed as a progressive and innovative state where people are outgoing and friendly.  Seattle, Washington's largest city is located on Elliott Bay, one of the West Coast's most picturesque natural ports.  State residents enjoy a quality of life enhanced by natural beauty, a mild year-round climate, and an international atmosphere.

The City of Tumwater is located at the southern tip of Puget Sound.  The rugged Olympic Mountains rise in the distance and Mount Rainier seems close enough to touch on a clear day.  Tumwater is just south of our state capitol, the City of Olympia.  To learn more about the City of Tumwater, visit http://www.ci.tumwater.wa.us/, and to learn more about the Olympia and the Thurston County area, visit http://www.thurstonchamber.com/.

Candidate Profile

The Washington State Department of Health is most interested in candidates who meet or exceed the following qualifications:

* A Juris Doctorate degree.

* Active membership, in good standing, with the Washington State Bar Association.

* Five (5) or more years of relevant management experience in all of the following areas:

o Supervision or management of staff providing legal services.

o Working within a state regulatory framework and participating in the legislative process.

o Effectively leading and directing a group of managers and professionals.

o Directing the development of necessary legislation, budgets, and application of resources.

o Leading process and improvement activities, resulting in improved service, efficiency, or cost savings.

o Executive level experience analyzing and developing legislation, policies, rules and regulations within a government agency.

* Demonstrated leadership competencies in the following areas:



o Ethical conduct by being honest, forthright, and professional in all interactions.

o Self-awareness, self-management and continual growth and learning.

o Developing relationships quickly and managing at all levels in the organization.

o Ability to build rapport with others and develop and facilitate teamwork within different functional areas.

o Engaging staff, developing teams and collaborating with others to achieve common goals.

o Creating a culture of respect, effective communication, continual learning and improvement.

o Influencing managers and staff to achieve positive outcomes and strengthen relationships.

o Ability to prioritize, consider alternatives, and respond quickly and effectively to unexpected and rapidly changing conditions.

o Interpersonal awareness and the ability to be inclusive.

o Organizational and political awareness.

o Cultural and gender sensitivity and competency.

Compensation

This position reports to the Assistant Secretary of the Division of Health Systems Quality Assurance and falls under the Washington Management Services (WMS) guidelines.  To learn more about WMS visit, http://www.dop.wa.gov/CompClass/Management/Pages/WashingtonManagementService2.aspx.

The annual range of compensation is between $80,892 and $103,524, depending upon qualifications.

Washington State offers a full benefits package including vacation and sick leave, family medical and dental coverage, life insurance, retirement, and a deferred compensation, visit http://www.dop.wa.gov/CompClass/JobClassesSalaries/Pages/Benefits.aspx.

The Washington State Department of Health is an equal opportunity employer.  We strive to create a working environment that includes and respects cultural, racial, ethnic, sexual orientation, and gender identity diversity.  Women, racial and ethnic minorities, persons with disabilities, persons over 40 years of age, disabled and Vietnam era veterans, and people of all sexual orientations and gender identities are encouraged to apply.  Applicants wishing assistance or alternative formats in the process should contact Linda Riggle at (360) 236-4226, Linda.Riggle at doh.wa.gov<mailto:Linda.Riggle at doh.wa.gov>, or TDD Relay at 7-1-1.

Application Process

Individuals interested in applying for this position should select the "Apply" button and submit the following:

1. A current detailed applicant profile; and attach your detailed Letter of Interest that addresses the elements in the "Candidate Profile" and Resume to your profile.
2. Five (5) or more professional references, to be included in your profile.  Please include at least one supervisor, peer, and subordinate.
3. Responses to the Supplemental Questions.


SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION:

  * Important information regarding the Application Process and the Supplemental Questions.

Only applicants who follow the directions and complete the Application Process and Supplemental Questions in-full will have their responses reviewed for consideration.





Director of Legal Services (WMS Band 3) - (DOH2499) Supplemental Questionnaire

* 1. SELECT ONE: How did you learn about this employment opportunity?
  a. DOH Employment site
b. DOH Employee
c. Careers.wa.gov site
d. Employment Security/WorkSource
e. APHA - Public Health CareerMart
f. Friend or Acquaintance
g. Job Fair - if selected, answer Question 2
h. Other - if selected, answer Question 2

  2. If you selected "g" or "h" to Question 1: LIST where you learned about this employment opportunity and if it was a Job Fair, the date you attended. (Examples: Job Fair - JBLM, June 30, 2013; OR, Indeed.com; OR, The Journal of Commerce, etc.)



* Required Question


From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV  Mon Oct 20 20:40:52 2014
From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR))
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:40:52 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Deputy Regional Manager for the HHS Office for Civil
 Rights in New York
Message-ID: <FC3590EE5FEF7842ABCCFBE0C22F24FA2BDB8553@hh-emsmb15>

Good position for someone experienced in Civil Rights.


/s/

Bennett Prows
Office for Civil Rights
701 Fifth Avnue, Suite 1600, MS-11
Seattle, WA 98104
206/615-2621
Bennett.Prows at HHS.gov


The following vacancy has posted to USAJOBS. Please click on the links below to view the MP and DE announcements.  Please feel free to share. Thanks!


Title: Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist  (DRM)GS-360-14

Location:  New York, NY

Open:  October 20, 2014

Close:  November 7, 2014


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From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 21 23:39:57 2014
From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:39:57 -0200
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP3162A969DF260D90F8A3C8CD940@phx.gbl>

Hi guys:

Does anyone know if this software is accessible?

My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com




From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Tue Oct 21 23:53:24 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:53:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
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It isn't at all. I have to get the exams emailed to me in word format and have them taken in front of a proctor. I type my work in a blank document, put my randomized student ID on it (so the prof doesn't know who's test it is) then email it to the registrar.  Exam 4 will then put it in exam 4 format for the law school and then send it to the professor along with the other tests. This is a nice dovetail to the time and a half that I also get and highly recommend you ask for (or whatever time you got on your LSAT).  

If you'd like to discuss further my cell is 9032716494 or you can reply to me on or off list. 

Best
Derek Manners 

There's virtually no way to do it unless you can see regular print. I have really good sight for a blind guy and don't use it. I highly recommend working something else out. 

Best
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys:
> 
> Does anyone know if this software is accessible?
> 
> My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Tue Oct 21 23:55:02 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:55:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
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Not sure how that happened but parts of my email got moved around. I think it's still clear what I meant but please let me know if that was confusing. 

Best
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys:
> 
> Does anyone know if this software is accessible?
> 
> My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 00:39:24 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:39:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
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yeah, it shuts down every other piece of software on your computer, so no screen readers by definition. i also just took exams on my laptop or a school computer with jaws and had a proctor in the room. 

fyi derek, at my school, they justified their use of exam 4 dispite the accessibility issues  partially by reference to the fact that hls uses it. so if you could do something about it, we would all be appreciative.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 19:55, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Not sure how that happened but parts of my email got moved around. I think it's still clear what I meant but please let me know if that was confusing. 
> 
> Best
> Derek
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if this software is accessible?
>> 
>> My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Marcos Rodrigues
>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Wed Oct 22 01:33:23 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:33:23 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
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What school do you attend?  That's interesting. I'll email my coordinator and find out who is in charge of making that decision. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> yeah, it shuts down every other piece of software on your computer, so no screen readers by definition. i also just took exams on my laptop or a school computer with jaws and had a proctor in the room. 
> 
> fyi derek, at my school, they justified their use of exam 4 dispite the accessibility issues  partially by reference to the fact that hls uses it. so if you could do something about it, we would all be appreciative.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 19:55, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure how that happened but parts of my email got moved around. I think it's still clear what I meant but please let me know if that was confusing. 
>> 
>> Best
>> Derek
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if this software is accessible?
>>> 
>>> My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> Marcos Rodrigues
>>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 22 19:03:12 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:03:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4
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If the alternate form of taking the test provided by the school is not as effective for you as a screen reader user as it is for those taking the test through the school's software, you could file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights at www.ed.gov/ocr.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Manners via blindlaw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:33 PM
To: Sybren Hoekstra; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Question about Software called Exam 4

What school do you attend?  That's interesting. I'll email my coordinator and find out who is in charge of making that decision. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> yeah, it shuts down every other piece of software on your computer, so no screen readers by definition. i also just took exams on my laptop or a school computer with jaws and had a proctor in the room. 
> 
> fyi derek, at my school, they justified their use of exam 4 dispite the accessibility issues  partially by reference to the fact that hls uses it. so if you could do something about it, we would all be appreciative.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 19:55, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure how that happened but parts of my email got moved around. I think it's still clear what I meant but please let me know if that was confusing. 
>> 
>> Best
>> Derek
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if this software is accessible?
>>> 
>>> My university required its installation for the finals exams and in case it is not accessible I will have to work something else out with the disability office.
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> Marcos Rodrigues
>>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From emrene at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 23 02:22:51 2014
From: emrene at earthlink.net (Elizabeth Rene)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:22:51 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Inaccessible exam software
Message-ID: <001101cfee68$425749e0$8c0fa8c0@yourpc79505e9b>

Hello list,

I'm saddened to see one more set of letters about inaccessible law exam software that requires individual blind law students to spend valuable study time (and endure additional pre-test stress) doing cartwheels to get special arrangements and accommodations that would be unnecessary if the software vendor complied with the ADA in the first place.

ExamSoft, and now apparently Exam 4, is used by law schools and state bar examiners all over the country, but no one of these public institutions has stepped up to the plate and demanded that these software contractors meet ADA accessibility compliance requirements.

The arguement goes like this: we can make special arrangements for you once you prove you need them.  You can be exempted from using that software.  Your test will be kept confidential (insert smiley face).

Imagine this scenario:  Exam proctor says:  You can't bring your white cane/guide dog into the test center.  It's a threat to exam security and distracts others.  We'll lead you around, assuming you can prove you're blind enough
to need our help.

That's illegal, isn't it?  None of us would submit to that, would we? And there are laws on the books to protect us from being forced to do so, aren't there?

And those laws were passed and are now enforced because sighted legislators and judges thought of them all by themselves without any input from us (insert another BIG smiley face).

Isn't it time that we, the people who are most affected by inaccessible professional gateway software such as ExamSoft and Exam 4, make it illegal for state bar associations and law schools to contract with anyone failing to meet ADA requirements?

Once we do this, we'll
open doors for every other blind person who has to take professional licensing exams and university tests using proprietary software.

So let's do something about this.

Best regards,

Elizabeth Rene
Attorney at Law
Washington State 

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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Thu Oct 23 03:00:37 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:00:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Inaccessible exam software
In-Reply-To: <001101cfee68$425749e0$8c0fa8c0@yourpc79505e9b>
References: <001101cfee68$425749e0$8c0fa8c0@yourpc79505e9b>
Message-ID: <9490C127-0CCD-4D75-8E1C-28C18456F2DC@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

You are right on principle but from my experience, using Microsoft Word is MUCH preferable to exam 4. It's honestly a benefit. My sighted friends would kill to not have to deal with exam 4 because the product sucks for everyone. But again, I agree with you on principle. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Elizabeth Rene via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I'm saddened to see one more set of letters about inaccessible law exam software that requires individual blind law students to spend valuable study time (and endure additional pre-test stress) doing cartwheels to get special arrangements and accommodations that would be unnecessary if the software vendor complied with the ADA in the first place.
> 
> ExamSoft, and now apparently Exam 4, is used by law schools and state bar examiners all over the country, but no one of these public institutions has stepped up to the plate and demanded that these software contractors meet ADA accessibility compliance requirements.
> 
> The arguement goes like this: we can make special arrangements for you once you prove you need them.  You can be exempted from using that software.  Your test will be kept confidential (insert smiley face).
> 
> Imagine this scenario:  Exam proctor says:  You can't bring your white cane/guide dog into the test center.  It's a threat to exam security and distracts others.  We'll lead you around, assuming you can prove you're blind enough
> to need our help.
> 
> That's illegal, isn't it?  None of us would submit to that, would we? And there are laws on the books to protect us from being forced to do so, aren't there?
> 
> And those laws were passed and are now enforced because sighted legislators and judges thought of them all by themselves without any input from us (insert another BIG smiley face).
> 
> Isn't it time that we, the people who are most affected by inaccessible professional gateway software such as ExamSoft and Exam 4, make it illegal for state bar associations and law schools to contract with anyone failing to meet ADA requirements?
> 
> Once we do this, we'll
> open doors for every other blind person who has to take professional licensing exams and university tests using proprietary software.
> 
> So let's do something about this.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Elizabeth Rene
> Attorney at Law
> Washington State 
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From mlniska04 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 15:13:55 2014
From: mlniska04 at yahoo.com (Matthias L. Niska)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:13:55 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Inaccessible exam software
In-Reply-To: <mailman.32.1414065602.14470.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <1414077235.22867.YahooMailBasic@web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

All,

I agree with Derek that indignity about programs like ExamSoft being inaccessible is spot-on in principle, but that in practice typing my exam answers in Word and then having someone at Disability Services copy it into ExamSoft and make sure it was formatted like all the other exam answers caused me absolutely no harm or extra stress and if anything was an advantage. Moreover, I think that software like ExamSoft, whose primary function as I understand it is to lock down all other programs/operations on a computer to create a secure testing environment, might present that extremely rare case in which the "fundamental alteration" defense actually has some merit.

In sum, while I agree that in a perfect world all software, including exam-taking software in law school, would be accessible out of the box, and maybe we will get there someday, there are so, so many other examples of inaccessible technologies out there that are actually harming blind students and employees that I think we have no shortage of battles to fight.

Best,
Matthias

 


From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 19:11:37 2014
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:37 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] Inducement to Breach of Contract
Message-ID: <CAGZitz++AWJt-TLgo5ES=g=VjJ+69ZLk_BLZiHu7nsw=Xp25qg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

I'm looking for any authorities, academic or judicial on the following points:

1. Suppose that   A has a contract with B. Subsequently, A   enters
into a contract with C which is inconsistent with A's contract with B.
If A fulfils its contract with C, it will by so doing breach its
contract with B. Suppose that C was unaware of A's contract with B
when C contracted with A. Can C be held liable for inducing A to
breach their contract with B? The authorities I have found are
inconclusive on the point but suggest that C cannot be held liable.

2. Suppose that A's contract with C in the example above is an option
agreement. For example, an option agreement under which A has the
right (but no obligation) to sell to C. Suppose that under the
agreement, C is bound to buy if A chooses to sell to it. A's contract
with B obliges A to sell to B. Does A breach its contract with B by
entering into the option agreement with C or at the point when A
exercises its option and sells to C? The authorities I have found
suggests that A breaches its contract with B only when it exercises
its option to sell to C.

3. If the answer to 2 above is that A breaches its contract with B
only when it sells to C, then:  If C did not know of A's contract with
B when C contracted with A but became aware of A's contract with B
before A chose to exercise its option to sell to C - In what
circumstances would C be held liable for inducing a breach of A's
contract with B? In particular, would C be entitled to press A to
exercise their option after C was aware that by doing so, A would
breach its contract with B?

Apologies for the detailed hypotheticals - I really would be grateful
for any pointers, as point 3 in particular seem unconsidered in
the authorities that I have found at least.

Kind regards

Ger


From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Thu Oct 23 21:11:46 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:11:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Inducement to Breach of Contract
In-Reply-To: <CAGZitz++AWJt-TLgo5ES=g=VjJ+69ZLk_BLZiHu7nsw=Xp25qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZitz++AWJt-TLgo5ES=g=VjJ+69ZLk_BLZiHu7nsw=Xp25qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <838B9C1B-87F8-4ACB-A16B-957F95EEFFAE@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

I'd look at the efficient breach doctrine. Basically, if A can get more money from selling to C than it can B, A is allowed to breach but it has to pay the damages it causes to B. This would really also only apply in things like the Mona Lisa or specific "one of a kind" situations. I believe there's a car case in contracts that deals with this specifically. But either way, only A would ever be liable because they are the ones damaging B/breaching the contract. 

Best
Derek Manners

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Gerard Sadlier via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I'm looking for any authorities, academic or judicial on the following points:
> 
> 1. Suppose that   A has a contract with B. Subsequently, A   enters
> into a contract with C which is inconsistent with A's contract with B.
> If A fulfils its contract with C, it will by so doing breach its
> contract with B. Suppose that C was unaware of A's contract with B
> when C contracted with A. Can C be held liable for inducing A to
> breach their contract with B? The authorities I have found are
> inconclusive on the point but suggest that C cannot be held liable.
> 
> 2. Suppose that A's contract with C in the example above is an option
> agreement. For example, an option agreement under which A has the
> right (but no obligation) to sell to C. Suppose that under the
> agreement, C is bound to buy if A chooses to sell to it. A's contract
> with B obliges A to sell to B. Does A breach its contract with B by
> entering into the option agreement with C or at the point when A
> exercises its option and sells to C? The authorities I have found
> suggests that A breaches its contract with B only when it exercises
> its option to sell to C.
> 
> 3. If the answer to 2 above is that A breaches its contract with B
> only when it sells to C, then:  If C did not know of A's contract with
> B when C contracted with A but became aware of A's contract with B
> before A chose to exercise its option to sell to C - In what
> circumstances would C be held liable for inducing a breach of A's
> contract with B? In particular, would C be entitled to press A to
> exercise their option after C was aware that by doing so, A would
> breach its contract with B?
> 
> Apologies for the detailed hypotheticals - I really would be grateful
> for any pointers, as point 3 in particular seem unconsidered in
> the authorities that I have found at least.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Ger
> 
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 15:55:02 2014
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:25:02 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
Message-ID: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them yet,
a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they are
averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own machines
due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired interns to
install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her choice on the
firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use original
copies of screen reading software because they're ridiculously
expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a result, most of us
buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from organizations that
sell them because there's no other way to perform any substantive or
concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm that I'm planning on
interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow interns to install
pirated copies of screen reading software on their machines. At the
same time, they're not willing to purchase an original copy of the
software for me just for the sake of a 4-week internship. One possible
solution could be to use an open source software like NVDA, but I
don't think it would be feasible for me to acquire a nuanced
understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time since I have never
used it before or that it would allow me to use some advanced features
as efficaciously as JAWS.
So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
discussing this problem with the firm.

Best,
Rahul


From anitakeithfoust at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:00:18 2014
From: anitakeithfoust at gmail.com (Anita Keith-Foust)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:00:18 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
Message-ID: <025a01cfefa3$9d0e9500$d72bbf00$@gmail.com>

Dear Listserv Members:

 

My visual challenges have taken a turn for the worst and I am trying to
prepare for the LSAT. The change was overnight so I don't know braille.
Fortunately, I use JAWS and ZoomText. 

 

I took the Princeton Review Prep course, but they were ill prepared to help
me.

 

Any tips that you can share with me on how to successfully work games, and
etc. , without vision is greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

Anita Keith-Foust

919-430-1978


From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:05:15 2014
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:05:15 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
Message-ID: <544a78c8.4905e00a.387e.ffffcfcb@mx.google.com>

The way I do games is much less complicated than the methods that 
people usually advocate.  I simply go to each question, and look 
at each answer with reference to each rule, and see if it breaks 
any of the rules.  It's a slow process, but if you receive 
extended time I find it works better than Excel or diagrams.

K.



 ----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>,<AnitaKeithFoust at gmail.com
Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:00:18 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT

Dear Listserv Members:



My visual challenges have taken a turn for the worst and I am 
trying to
prepare for the LSAT.  The change was overnight so I don't know 
braille.
Fortunately, I use JAWS and ZoomText.



I took the Princeton Review Prep course, but they were ill 
prepared to help
me.



Any tips that you can share with me on how to successfully work 
games, and
etc.  , without vision is greatly appreciated.



Thank you.



Anita Keith-Foust

919-430-1978

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From philosopher25 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:06:58 2014
From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (Sexton, bruce)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:06:58 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
In-Reply-To: <025a01cfefa3$9d0e9500$d72bbf00$@gmail.com>
References: <025a01cfefa3$9d0e9500$d72bbf00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004201cfefa4$8ab92c20$a02b8460$@gmail.com>

Hello, Many of us are successfully experimenting with games using Excel.
You can search this list for some more detailed explanations.  You can email
me off list and I can provide you with my phone number further discuss.  

Brucefsexton at gmail.com 
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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anita
Keith-Foust via blindlaw
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:00 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org; AnitaKeithFoust at gmail.com
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT

Dear Listserv Members:

 

My visual challenges have taken a turn for the worst and I am trying to
prepare for the LSAT. The change was overnight so I don't know braille.
Fortunately, I use JAWS and ZoomText. 

 

I took the Princeton Review Prep course, but they were ill prepared to help
me.

 

Any tips that you can share with me on how to successfully work games, and
etc. , without vision is greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

Anita Keith-Foust

919-430-1978

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From philosopher25 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:06:58 2014
From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (Sexton, bruce)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:06:58 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004401cfefa4$8b4a96b0$a1dfc410$@gmail.com>

Hi Rahul,

I lived in India for a year and understand what you mean about pirated
software. Perhaps it would help you to know that NVDA's commands are
essentially the same as JAWS.  I have not used it in a year or so, but I did
have problems finding an equivalent to the JAWS cursor.  Perhaps someone has
an update on that.  


-Bruce 
-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
via blindlaw
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:55 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

Hi All,

I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them yet,
a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they are
averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own machines
due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired interns to
install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her choice on the
firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use original
copies of screen reading software because they're ridiculously
expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a result, most of us
buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from organizations that
sell them because there's no other way to perform any substantive or
concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm that I'm planning on
interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow interns to install
pirated copies of screen reading software on their machines. At the
same time, they're not willing to purchase an original copy of the
software for me just for the sake of a 4-week internship. One possible
solution could be to use an open source software like NVDA, but I
don't think it would be feasible for me to acquire a nuanced
understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time since I have never
used it before or that it would allow me to use some advanced features
as efficaciously as JAWS.
So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
discussing this problem with the firm.

Best,
Rahul

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From philosopher25 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:09:19 2014
From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (Sexton, bruce)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:09:19 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
In-Reply-To: <544a78c8.4905e00a.387e.ffffcfcb@mx.google.com>
References: <544a78c8.4905e00a.387e.ffffcfcb@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <004601cfefa4$de82c1e0$9b8845a0$@gmail.com>

Interesting.  Are you able to find the answer to all question types this
way?  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby
Carlson via blindlaw
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:05 AM
To: Anita Keith-Foust; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT

The way I do games is much less complicated than the methods that 
people usually advocate.  I simply go to each question, and look 
at each answer with reference to each rule, and see if it breaks 
any of the rules.  It's a slow process, but if you receive 
extended time I find it works better than Excel or diagrams.

K.



 ----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>,<AnitaKeithFoust at gmail.com
Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:00:18 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT

Dear Listserv Members:



My visual challenges have taken a turn for the worst and I am 
trying to
prepare for the LSAT.  The change was overnight so I don't know 
braille.
Fortunately, I use JAWS and ZoomText.



I took the Princeton Review Prep course, but they were ill 
prepared to help
me.



Any tips that you can share with me on how to successfully work 
games, and
etc.  , without vision is greatly appreciated.



Thank you.



Anita Keith-Foust

919-430-1978

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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Fri Oct 24 16:55:38 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:55:38 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
In-Reply-To: <004601cfefa4$de82c1e0$9b8845a0$@gmail.com>
References: <544a78c8.4905e00a.387e.ffffcfcb@mx.google.com>
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I'd highly recommend figuring out another method. While I can't be of much help with that, simply looking at the ones that don't fit the rule will not get you a high score compared to a comprehensive method. You are much more likely to earn a better score if you do a systematic approach. 

If you'd like, I can run through some practice problems with you and we can figure out how to translate the models into something that works for you. 

9032716494

Best
Derek Manners

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Interesting.  Are you able to find the answer to all question types this
> way?  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby
> Carlson via blindlaw
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:05 AM
> To: Anita Keith-Foust; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
> 
> The way I do games is much less complicated than the methods that 
> people usually advocate.  I simply go to each question, and look 
> at each answer with reference to each rule, and see if it breaks 
> any of the rules.  It's a slow process, but if you receive 
> extended time I find it works better than Excel or diagrams.
> 
> K.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anita Keith-Foust via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>,<AnitaKeithFoust at gmail.com
> Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:00:18 -0400
> Subject: [blindlaw] Request for Study Tips for the LSAT
> 
> Dear Listserv Members:
> 
> 
> 
> My visual challenges have taken a turn for the worst and I am 
> trying to
> prepare for the LSAT.  The change was overnight so I don't know 
> braille.
> Fortunately, I use JAWS and ZoomText.
> 
> 
> 
> I took the Princeton Review Prep course, but they were ill 
> prepared to help
> me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any tips that you can share with me on how to successfully work 
> games, and
> etc.  , without vision is greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Anita Keith-Foust
> 
> 919-430-1978
> 
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Fri Oct 24 17:01:37 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:01:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <004401cfefa4$8b4a96b0$a1dfc410$@gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<004401cfefa4$8b4a96b0$a1dfc410$@gmail.com>
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You might contact JAWS, explain that you've got an internship at a firm and see if they can give you a 1 month trial?  Obviously don't tell them about the pirated copy lol. 

Best
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> 
> I lived in India for a year and understand what you mean about pirated
> software. Perhaps it would help you to know that NVDA's commands are
> essentially the same as JAWS.  I have not used it in a year or so, but I did
> have problems finding an equivalent to the JAWS cursor.  Perhaps someone has
> an update on that.  
> 
> 
> -Bruce 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
> via blindlaw
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:55 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them yet,
> a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they are
> averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own machines
> due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired interns to
> install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her choice on the
> firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use original
> copies of screen reading software because they're ridiculously
> expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a result, most of us
> buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from organizations that
> sell them because there's no other way to perform any substantive or
> concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm that I'm planning on
> interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow interns to install
> pirated copies of screen reading software on their machines. At the
> same time, they're not willing to purchase an original copy of the
> software for me just for the sake of a 4-week internship. One possible
> solution could be to use an open source software like NVDA, but I
> don't think it would be feasible for me to acquire a nuanced
> understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time since I have never
> used it before or that it would allow me to use some advanced features
> as efficaciously as JAWS.
> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
> discussing this problem with the firm.
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
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From cannona at fireantproductions.com  Fri Oct 24 18:23:58 2014
From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:23:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>

If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA. It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it better. It does happen.

Aaron Cannon

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> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them yet,
> a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they are
> averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own machines
> due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired interns to
> install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her choice on the
> firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use original
> copies of screen reading software because they're ridiculously
> expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a result, most of us
> buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from organizations that
> sell them because there's no other way to perform any substantive or
> concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm that I'm planning on
> interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow interns to install
> pirated copies of screen reading software on their machines. At the
> same time, they're not willing to purchase an original copy of the
> software for me just for the sake of a 4-week internship. One possible
> solution could be to use an open source software like NVDA, but I
> don't think it would be feasible for me to acquire a nuanced
> understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time since I have never
> used it before or that it would allow me to use some advanced features
> as efficaciously as JAWS.
> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
> discussing this problem with the firm.
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 20:56:57 2014
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:56:57 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>
Message-ID: <CAN4Q-EqKPuRqUC_12fVZaSXK8RiEeaaiwakQAjzosgpmSGGwgQ@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that
would run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember
the details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could
provide such a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the
issue.

On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large part,
> very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it better. It does
> happen.
>
> Aaron Cannon
>
> --
> This message was sent from a mobile device
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them yet,
>> a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they are
>> averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own machines
>> due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired interns to
>> install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her choice on the
>> firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use original
>> copies of screen reading software because they're ridiculously
>> expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a result, most of us
>> buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from organizations that
>> sell them because there's no other way to perform any substantive or
>> concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm that I'm planning on
>> interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow interns to install
>> pirated copies of screen reading software on their machines. At the
>> same time, they're not willing to purchase an original copy of the
>> software for me just for the sake of a 4-week internship. One possible
>> solution could be to use an open source software like NVDA, but I
>> don't think it would be feasible for me to acquire a nuanced
>> understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time since I have never
>> used it before or that it would allow me to use some advanced features
>> as efficaciously as JAWS.
>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mnowicki4 at icloud.com  Fri Oct 24 21:31:29 2014
From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michael Nowicki)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:29 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <CAN4Q-EqKPuRqUC_12fVZaSXK8RiEeaaiwakQAjzosgpmSGGwgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>
	<CAN4Q-EqKPuRqUC_12fVZaSXK8RiEeaaiwakQAjzosgpmSGGwgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cfefd1$e0ab4dc0$a201e940$@icloud.com>

It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the user to
restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the program to
continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the company plans to
introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 days and will enable
customers to pay for a permanent license over time if they so choose.  In
other words, this will function similarly to the payment plan GW Micro used
to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they offer
WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
Matney via blindlaw
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that would
run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember the
details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could provide such
a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the issue.

On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large 
> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it 
> better. It does happen.
>
> Aaron Cannon
>
> --
> This message was sent from a mobile device
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next 
>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them 
>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they 
>> are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own 
>> machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired 
>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her 
>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use 
>> original copies of screen reading software because they're 
>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a 
>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from 
>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform 
>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm 
>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow 
>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on their 
>> machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an 
>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week 
>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source 
>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to 
>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time 
>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use 
>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this 
>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before 
>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From malhotraarjun2012 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 18:25:52 2014
From: malhotraarjun2012 at gmail.com (Arjun Malhotra)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:55:52 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <000001cfefd1$e0ab4dc0$a201e940$@icloud.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>
	<CAN4Q-EqKPuRqUC_12fVZaSXK8RiEeaaiwakQAjzosgpmSGGwgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001cfefd1$e0ab4dc0$a201e940$@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CANjmhSdU1oy9MywwzUaS8edMTdy9auEFOoVECKwvt2ecc_5QpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010
users, but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
Arjun

On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the user to
> restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the program to
> continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the company plans to
> introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 days and will enable
> customers to pay for a permanent license over time if they so choose.  In
> other words, this will function similarly to the payment plan GW Micro used
> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they offer
> WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
> Matney via blindlaw
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>
> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that would
> run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember the
> details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could provide
> such
> a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the issue.
>
> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large
>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it
>> better. It does happen.
>>
>> Aaron Cannon
>>
>> --
>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them
>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they
>>> are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own
>>> machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired
>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her
>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use
>>> original copies of screen reading software because they're
>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a
>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from
>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform
>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm
>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow
>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on their
>>> machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an
>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week
>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source
>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to
>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time
>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use
>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 18:44:08 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:44:08 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <CANjmhSdU1oy9MywwzUaS8edMTdy9auEFOoVECKwvt2ecc_5QpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPY9ixcY7GKu2J=WtLCEN2ELAePWxUuk+3W=9iBrh725=w@mail.gmail.com>	<EBE946A9-7368-439A-A951-3EEFA61BF224@fireantproductions.com>	<CAN4Q-EqKPuRqUC_12fVZaSXK8RiEeaaiwakQAjzosgpmSGGwgQ@mail.gmail.com>	<000001cfefd1$e0ab4dc0$a201e940$@icloud.com>
	<CANjmhSdU1oy9MywwzUaS8edMTdy9auEFOoVECKwvt2ecc_5QpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005f01cff083$a9ebf930$fdc3eb90$@gmail.com>

Arjun, does Window Eyes work for any software if you get the free version
with Office? Or does it just work with the Office applications?

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arjun
Malhotra via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Michael Nowicki; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010
users, but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
Arjun

On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the user to
> restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the program to
> continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the company plans to
> introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 days and will enable
> customers to pay for a permanent license over time if they so choose.  In
> other words, this will function similarly to the payment plan GW Micro
used
> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they offer
> WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
> Matney via blindlaw
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>
> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that would
> run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember the
> details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could provide
> such
> a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the issue.
>
> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large
>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it
>> better. It does happen.
>>
>> Aaron Cannon
>>
>> --
>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them
>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they
>>> are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own
>>> machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired
>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her
>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use
>>> original copies of screen reading software because they're
>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a
>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from
>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform
>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm
>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow
>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on their
>>> machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an
>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week
>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source
>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to
>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time
>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use
>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
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From mnowicki4 at icloud.com  Sat Oct 25 19:35:25 2014
From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michael Nowicki)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:35:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <005f01cff083$a9ebf930$fdc3eb90$@gmail.com>
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Hi all,

WindowEyes for Office works with all applications that are supported by the
paid version.  The only major disadvantages of the free version is that
customers must pay for technical support over the phone, and they don't get
the installation CD or manuals/hotkey guides in the mail.

I must also point out that unlike NVDA, WindowEyes keyboard commands differ
substantially from their JAWS counterparts.  In fact, as a JAWS user, I
personally find it extremely difficult to use WindowEyes in a productive
manner.

Best,

Michal



-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy Hoekstra
via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:44 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

Arjun, does Window Eyes work for any software if you get the free version
with Office? Or does it just work with the Office applications?

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arjun
Malhotra via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Michael Nowicki; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010 users,
but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
Arjun

On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the 
> user to restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the 
> program to continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the 
> company plans to introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 
> days and will enable customers to pay for a permanent license over 
> time if they so choose.  In other words, this will function similarly 
> to the payment plan GW Micro
used
> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they 
> offer WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie 
> Matney via blindlaw
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>
> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that 
> would run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember 
> the details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could 
> provide such a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the 
> issue.
>
> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large 
>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it 
>> better. It does happen.
>>
>> Aaron Cannon
>>
>> --
>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw 
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next 
>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them 
>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that 
>>> they are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their 
>>> own machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired 
>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her 
>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not 
>>> use original copies of screen reading software because they're 
>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a 
>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from 
>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform 
>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm 
>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow 
>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on 
>>> their machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an 
>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week 
>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source 
>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to 
>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time 
>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use 
>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this 
>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before 
>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From steve.jacobson at visi.com  Sat Oct 25 21:05:00 2014
From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:05:00 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <005f01cff083$a9ebf930$fdc3eb90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000000418863@mailback2.g2host.com>

The version of Window-Eyes that comes with the Office applications is the full version and it will work with all software that the purchased version works 
with.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:44:08 -0400, Sy Hoekstra via blindlaw wrote:

>Arjun, does Window Eyes work for any software if you get the free version
>with Office? Or does it just work with the Office applications?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arjun
>Malhotra via blindlaw
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:26 PM
>To: Michael Nowicki; Blind Law Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

>Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010
>users, but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
>Arjun

>On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
>> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the user to
>> restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the program to
>> continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the company plans to
>> introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 days and will enable
>> customers to pay for a permanent license over time if they so choose.  In
>> other words, this will function similarly to the payment plan GW Micro
>used
>> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they offer
>> WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
>> Matney via blindlaw
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
>> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>>
>> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that would
>> run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
>> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember the
>> details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could provide
>> such
>> a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the issue.
>>
>> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
>>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large
>>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it
>>> better. It does happen.
>>>
>>> Aaron Cannon
>>>
>>> --
>>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
>>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them
>>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that they
>>>> are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their own
>>>> machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired
>>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her
>>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not use
>>>> original copies of screen reading software because they're
>>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a
>>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from
>>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform
>>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm
>>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow
>>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on their
>>>> machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an
>>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week
>>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source
>>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to
>>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time
>>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use
>>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
>>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
>>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
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From steve.jacobson at visi.com  Sat Oct 25 21:10:02 2014
From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:10:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <000001cff08a$d3c415b0$7b4c4110$@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000000420050@mailback2.g2host.com>

You are right that Window-Eyes is different than JAWS, but I don't see how NVDA isn't just as different.  Screen readers do take some time to learn.  Also, 
what has not really been discussed here is which software will be used as a part of the internship.  It would be good to find out what is most commonly used 
as it may work with one screen reader better than another, or it might not be all that accessible.  NVDA may not work as well with some older software as 
JAWS or Window-Eyes.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:35:25 -0500, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw wrote:

>Hi all,

>WindowEyes for Office works with all applications that are supported by the
>paid version.  The only major disadvantages of the free version is that
>customers must pay for technical support over the phone, and they don't get
>the installation CD or manuals/hotkey guides in the mail.

>I must also point out that unlike NVDA, WindowEyes keyboard commands differ
>substantially from their JAWS counterparts.  In fact, as a JAWS user, I
>personally find it extremely difficult to use WindowEyes in a productive
>manner.

>Best,

>Michal



>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy Hoekstra
>via blindlaw
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:44 PM
>To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

>Arjun, does Window Eyes work for any software if you get the free version
>with Office? Or does it just work with the Office applications?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arjun
>Malhotra via blindlaw
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:26 PM
>To: Michael Nowicki; Blind Law Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem

>Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010 users,
>but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
>Arjun

>On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
>> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the 
>> user to restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the 
>> program to continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the 
>> company plans to introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90 
>> days and will enable customers to pay for a permanent license over 
>> time if they so choose.  In other words, this will function similarly 
>> to the payment plan GW Micro
>used
>> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they 
>> offer WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie 
>> Matney via blindlaw
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
>> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>>
>> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that 
>> would run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
>> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember 
>> the details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could 
>> provide such a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the 
>> issue.
>>
>> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn NVDA.
>>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large 
>>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it 
>>> better. It does happen.
>>>
>>> Aaron Cannon
>>>
>>> --
>>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next 
>>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them 
>>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that 
>>>> they are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their 
>>>> own machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired 
>>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her 
>>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not 
>>>> use original copies of screen reading software because they're 
>>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a 
>>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from 
>>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform 
>>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm 
>>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow 
>>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on 
>>>> their machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an 
>>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week 
>>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source 
>>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to 
>>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time 
>>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use 
>>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this 
>>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before 
>>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
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From cannona at fireantproductions.com  Sun Oct 26 13:18:27 2014
From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 08:18:27 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
In-Reply-To: <auto-000000420050@mailback2.g2host.com>
References: <000001cff08a$d3c415b0$7b4c4110$@icloud.com>
	<auto-000000420050@mailback2.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <CAERFoOhc5UQ2VMCGQwRG1tmWcYeeedo06PuX+f5aA=VKEwe_zA@mail.gmail.com>

One other thing to be aware of is that if the firm uses Open Office or
Libre Office, Jaws, and I strongly suspect Window Eyes will not work
with it.  Only NVDA works (and works pretty well) with those
applications, as far as I know.

Like Steve said, it will help a lot to know what applications you will be using.

Aaron

On 10/25/14, Steve Jacobson via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> You are right that Window-Eyes is different than JAWS, but I don't see how
> NVDA isn't just as different.  Screen readers do take some time to learn.
> Also,
> what has not really been discussed here is which software will be used as a
> part of the internship.  It would be good to find out what is most commonly
> used
> as it may work with one screen reader better than another, or it might not
> be all that accessible.  NVDA may not work as well with some older software
> as
> JAWS or Window-Eyes.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:35:25 -0500, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>
>>WindowEyes for Office works with all applications that are supported by
>> the
>>paid version.  The only major disadvantages of the free version is that
>>customers must pay for technical support over the phone, and they don't
>> get
>>the installation CD or manuals/hotkey guides in the mail.
>
>>I must also point out that unlike NVDA, WindowEyes keyboard commands
>> differ
>>substantially from their JAWS counterparts.  In fact, as a JAWS user, I
>>personally find it extremely difficult to use WindowEyes in a productive
>>manner.
>
>>Best,
>
>>Michal
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy
>> Hoekstra
>>via blindlaw
>>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:44 PM
>>To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>
>>Arjun, does Window Eyes work for any software if you get the free version
>>with Office? Or does it just work with the Office applications?
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arjun
>>Malhotra via blindlaw
>>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:26 PM
>>To: Michael Nowicki; Blind Law Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>
>>Another option for you is Windows eyes. Its free for MS office 2010 users,
>>but you wont be having ETI eloquence.
>>Arjun
>
>>On 10/25/14, Michael Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> It was WindowEyes; GW Micro used to offer a sixty day trial.
>>> Freedomscientific does, however, offer a demo, but it requires the
>>> user to restart his/her computer every 40 minutes in order for the
>>> program to continue to work.  Starting with JAWS 16, though, the
>>> company plans to introduce timed licenses, which will be valid for 90
>>> days and will enable customers to pay for a permanent license over
>>> time if they so choose.  In other words, this will function similarly
>>> to the payment plan GW Micro
>>used
>>> to offer for WindowEyes (I'm not sure if they still do now that they
>>> offer WindowEyes for Office.)  I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
>>> Matney via blindlaw
>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:57 PM
>>> To: Aaron Cannon; Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Internship Problem
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that FS used to make available a demo of JAWS that
>>> would run for a certain number of days, possibly for a minimal fee.
>>> But perhaps that was GWMicro and WindowEyes. Sorry, I don't remember
>>> the details, but perhaps you could contact FS and see if they could
>>> provide such a demo version. I do hope you are able to resolve the
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> On 10/24/14, Aaron Cannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> If you have until January, you should have plenty of time to learn
>>>> NVDA.
>>>> It's really not that complicated as others have said, and in large
>>>> part, very similar to Jaws. You might even find that you like it
>>>> better. It does happen.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Cannon
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:55, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am scheduled to intern in an intellectual property firm next
>>>>> January. Even though I haven't discussed the modalities with them
>>>>> yet, a friend of mine who has interned there before told me that
>>>>> they are averse to the idea of allowing their interns to use their
>>>>> own machines due to privacy concerns and ask their visually impaired
>>>>> interns to install a copy of the screen reading software of his/her
>>>>> choice on the firm's computers. Here in India, most people do not
>>>>> use original copies of screen reading software because they're
>>>>> ridiculously expensive and beyond their economic capacity. As a
>>>>> result, most of us buy pirated versions of software like JAWS from
>>>>> organizations that sell them because there's no other way to perform
>>>>> any substantive or concrete task on a computer. Now, since the firm
>>>>> that I'm planning on interning at is an IP firm, they do not allow
>>>>> interns to install pirated copies of screen reading software on
>>>>> their machines. At the same time, they're not willing to purchase an
>>>>> original copy of the software for me just for the sake of a 4-week
>>>>> internship. One possible solution could be to use an open source
>>>>> software like NVDA, but I don't think it would be feasible for me to
>>>>> acquire a nuanced understanding of NVDA in such a short span of time
>>>>> since I have never used it before or that it would allow me to use
>>>>> some advanced features as efficaciously as JAWS.
>>>>> So, I'd love to know your views/ suggestions for grappling with this
>>>>> challenge. I want to be able to chalk out a clear solution before
>>>>> discussing this problem with the firm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Sun Oct 26 22:48:24 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:48:24 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] A Great Opportunity to Help a Great Organization
Message-ID: <047b01cff16f$0f834a00$2e89de00$@labarrelaw.com>

Dear Friends:

 

It is that time of year again where I ask you to consider a donation to the
National Federation of the Blind of Colorado which may also have great
benefit to you.  First of all, I apologize if this email comes to you more
than once due to the nature of the email lists that I am employing.

 

In the past, we have been raffling away a $3500.00 gift certificate to a
travel agency, not this year.  This year, we are giving away $3500 cash to
the lucky winner.  Tickets are only $10 a piece and $20 for three, multiples
thereof applicable.  The drawing will take place on November 1st and you do
not need to be present to win.  Please go to
www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase tickets online or call 303
778-1130, Ext. 223 where Jessica will be happy to take orders over the
phone.  Hurry!  Online sales will close on October 31st.

 

I thank you for your consideration!  Proceeds benefit NFB programs such as
our Braille literacy camp for children, college scholarship fund, a talking
newspaper service for the blind, and empowerment grants for blind
individuals.  

 

Warmly,

Scott C. LaBarre, President

NFB Colorado

 

P.S.  If you are in the Denver area, we are having a wonderful event on
October 30th called Twist and Shout where we will hear from Art Schreiber
who is now blind and was one of two reporters to travel with the Beatles
fifty years ago on their maiden tour of North America.  Go to
www.nfbco.org/beatlemania to find out more.

 

Pp.'s. Please let us know if you wish to be removed from this list by
sending a reply email.

 

Pp.'s. we are having a fun little contest among our members to see who can
sell the most raffle tickets.  Please put my name in the box indicated on
the form.

 

Thanks again!

 

 


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Sun Oct 26 23:31:30 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:31:30 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] a Great Opportunity to Help a Great Organization
Message-ID: <069901cff175$171dcb90$455962b0$@labarrelaw.com>

Dear Friends:

 

It is that time of year again where I ask you to consider a donation to the
National Federation of the Blind of Colorado which may also have great
benefit to you.  First of all, I apologize if this email comes to you more
than once due to the nature of the email lists that I am employing.

 

In the past, we have been raffling away a $3500.00 gift certificate to a
travel agency, not this year.  This year, we are giving away $3500 cash to
the lucky winner.  Tickets are only $10 a piece and $20 for three, multiples
thereof applicable.  The drawing will take place on November 1st and you do
not need to be present to win.  Please go to
www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase tickets online or call 303
778-1130, Ext. 223 where Jessica will be happy to take orders over the
phone.  Hurry!  Online sales will close on October 31st.

 

I thank you for your consideration!  Proceeds benefit NFB programs such as
our Braille literacy camp for children, college scholarship fund, a talking
newspaper service for the blind, and empowerment grants for blind
individuals.  

 

Warmly,

Scott C. LaBarre, President

NFB Colorado

 

P.S.  If you are in the Denver area, we are having a wonderful event on
October 30th called Twist and Shout where we will hear from Art Schreiber
who is now blind and was one of two reporters to travel with the Beatles
fifty years ago on their maiden tour of North America.  Go to
www.nfbco.org/beatlemania to find out more.

 

Pp.'s. Please let us know if you wish to be removed from this list by
sending a reply email.

 

Pp.'s. we are having a fun little contest among our members to see who can
sell the most raffle tickets.  Please put my name in the box indicated on
the form.

 

Thanks again!

 

 


From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 17:43:44 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:43:44 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] bluetooth and windows 7 with jaws
Message-ID: <6D3B3E83-507D-49DE-8CEE-05403F53F50F@gmail.com>

hi all. does anyone know of a bluetooth ear piece or headphones/headset that works with windows 7 and jaws? there are two separate questions there because apparently windows 7 generally has a lot of bugs when it comes to bluetooth, but there are additional problems when it comes to working with screen readers because the bluetooth connection is somehow lost or muted when the voice does not speak for several seconds. i would also appreciate suggestions for any other wireless connection between headphones and windows 7. it does not have to be bluetooth specifically.

i am unfortunately tied to windows 7 at my job. i have no problems with this on windows 8 at home.

thanks!
sy

Sent from my iPhone

From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:15:36 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:15:36 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
Message-ID: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless! 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:28:43 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:28:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC>

Helga, I am not sure if they are against the act or not. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act


> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, 
> what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard 
> that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In 
> fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in 
> Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? 
> I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really 
> would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you 
> soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:35:20 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:35:20 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD40D9C3CB4E4F008C90A76179D2E1DD@robinaPC>

Oh, I forgot to mention, I ask for your thoughts and prayers, as one of my 
family members passed away.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act


> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, 
> what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard 
> that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In 
> fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in 
> Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? 
> I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really 
> would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you 
> soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Tue Oct 28 18:58:50 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:58:50 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <CD40D9C3CB4E4F008C90A76179D2E1DD@robinaPC>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
	<CD40D9C3CB4E4F008C90A76179D2E1DD@robinaPC>
Message-ID: <D408138F-8709-4C5C-8D6A-A28A78F97197@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

Washington seminar early next year is a great opportunity to lobby congress about the teach act. If you want this to become law, the best thing to do is raise money to help send NFBers to Washington seminar. The NABS fundraising committee is still looking for more members to help us with our fundraising efforts this year. 

If we raise enough money, the hope is that we can send students to Washington seminar and or the national convention. 

Getting involved with your local chapter fundraising is also an avenue that you can take. 

Best wishes 
Derek Manners 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 2:35 PM, RJ Sandefur via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I forgot to mention, I ask for your thoughts and prayers, as one of my family members passed away.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
> 
> 
>> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber
>> 
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 05:27:58 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 01:27:58 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <D408138F-8709-4C5C-8D6A-A28A78F97197@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
	<CD40D9C3CB4E4F008C90A76179D2E1DD@robinaPC>
	<D408138F-8709-4C5C-8D6A-A28A78F97197@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <CC255DD4-14AF-413F-A7C1-1C27858648B0@gmail.com>

Hi Derek. I just wanted to ask you, what are NFBers? I'm just wondering. Are they students? And I also wanted to tell you that I would like to be one of the ones advocating in order for the TEACH Act to become a law. And I'm actually interested in going to the Washington seminar in order to lobby in fighting so that the Teach Act could become law! Also, I just wanted to ask you, do you perhaps know when Congress is helding a Hearing where they discuss about the Teach Act? I'm just wondeirng since I would like to attend one so that I can mention my opinion why the billl should become a law. Hope to hear form you soon. Thanks so much and have a nice day. God bless! 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Derek Manners <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> Washington seminar early next year is a great opportunity to lobby congress about the teach act. If you want this to become law, the best thing to do is raise money to help send NFBers to Washington seminar. The NABS fundraising committee is still looking for more members to help us with our fundraising efforts this year. 
> 
> If we raise enough money, the hope is that we can send students to Washington seminar and or the national convention. 
> 
> Getting involved with your local chapter fundraising is also an avenue that you can take. 
> 
> Best wishes 
> Derek Manners 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 2:35 PM, RJ Sandefur via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I forgot to mention, I ask for your thoughts and prayers, as one of my family members passed away.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>> 
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 29 11:38:20 2014
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (Charles Krugman)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:38:20 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
	<D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC>
Message-ID: <57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike>

It is probable that nothing substantive will happen regarding the TEACH ACT 
during the rest of this session of Congress as elections are next week and 
it will be in a lame duck session until the end of the year. If it is not on 
the agenda it can probably be addressed with Congress during the Washington 
Seminar. For anyone who wants to do so it would not hurt to contact their 
local member of congress to let them know their support for this legislation 
as they are a constituent who is a registered voter.
Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal/political consultant
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237



-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via blindlaw
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Helga Schreiber ; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act

Helga, I am not sure if they are against the act or not. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act


> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, 
> what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard 
> that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In 
> fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in 
> Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue? 
> I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really 
> would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you 
> soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jorgeapaez1994 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 13:00:20 2014
From: jorgeapaez1994 at gmail.com (Jorge Paez)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:00:20 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
	<D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC>
	<57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike>
Message-ID: <CAA+vbPtpO2gQo0E+P2cndsv34H0JsFe40uspupxj-D7K-hXKvw@mail.gmail.com>

Surely there might be ways to incentivize congress to do something
about the Teach Act in a lame duck?


On 10/29/14, Charles Krugman via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It is probable that nothing substantive will happen regarding the TEACH ACT
>
> during the rest of this session of Congress as elections are next week and
> it will be in a lame duck session until the end of the year. If it is not on
>
> the agenda it can probably be addressed with Congress during the Washington
>
> Seminar. For anyone who wants to do so it would not hurt to contact their
> local member of congress to let them know their support for this legislation
>
> as they are a constituent who is a registered voter.
> Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal/political consultant
> 1237 P Street
> Fresno ca 93721
> 559-266-9237
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RJ Sandefur via blindlaw
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:28 AM
> To: Helga Schreiber ; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
>
> Helga, I am not sure if they are against the act or not. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
>
>
>> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you,
>> what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard
>> that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In
>>
>> fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in
>>
>> Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue?
>>
>> I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really
>>
>> would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you
>> soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>> Blind Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 13:42:00 2014
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:42:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <CAA+vbPtpO2gQo0E+P2cndsv34H0JsFe40uspupxj-D7K-hXKvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com>
	<D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC>
	<57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike>
	<CAA+vbPtpO2gQo0E+P2cndsv34H0JsFe40uspupxj-D7K-hXKvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B775F1A-7918-469A-8633-704301999F94@gmail.com>

No, Chuck is right. I imagine that's one of the reasons we have Washington seminar in January and not, like late November or December.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Jorge Paez via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Surely there might be ways to incentivize congress to do something
> about the Teach Act in a lame duck?
> 
> 
>> On 10/29/14, Charles Krugman via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> It is probable that nothing substantive will happen regarding the TEACH ACT
>> 
>> during the rest of this session of Congress as elections are next week and
>> it will be in a lame duck session until the end of the year. If it is not on
>> 
>> the agenda it can probably be addressed with Congress during the Washington
>> 
>> Seminar. For anyone who wants to do so it would not hurt to contact their
>> local member of congress to let them know their support for this legislation
>> 
>> as they are a constituent who is a registered voter.
>> Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal/political consultant
>> 1237 P Street
>> Fresno ca 93721
>> 559-266-9237
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RJ Sandefur via blindlaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:28 AM
>> To: Helga Schreiber ; Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
>> 
>> Helga, I am not sure if they are against the act or not. RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Helga Schreiber via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:15 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, this is Helga. How are you all? I just wanted to ask you,
>>> what is the update of the TEACH act? I'm just wondering   since I heard
>>> that Congress is against it and they do not want to pass it as a law.  In
>>> 
>>> fact, I just  wanted to ask you, have we contacted a group of lobbyst  in
>>> 
>>> Congress who know more about this matter and can help us fight this issue?
>>> 
>>> I'm just curious since I'm also concerned about this situation.  I really
>>> 
>>> would like  this bill become a law. I look forward in hearing from you
>>> soon. Thank you so much and have a nice day. God bless!
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>> 
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>>> Blind Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>>> 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Wed Oct 29 13:56:57 2014
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:56:57 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] bluetooth and windows 7 with jaws
References: <6D3B3E83-507D-49DE-8CEE-05403F53F50F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D4E1E4BDDC34135B728CF718A7DFDD6@victory2>

Hello Sy:

I use Logitech H800.  It supports both wireless and bluetooth.  To use it as 
a wireless device, you must use a nano-USB plug.  Bluetooth just requires 
pairing.

I've not used it as a bluetooth device, but it does work pretty well as a 
wireless one.  I've not tested with Windows 8.0-8.1, but I don't see a 
reason why it won't work.  It's plug-&-play for me and thus far I've not had 
to install any software to use this headset.
No problem with Window-Eyes, my preferred screen reader; I doubt if there'll 
be any problems using this headset with Jaws either but I don't use Jaws!

Hope the foregoing is reasonably helpful; a good search on Amazon should get 
you some good pricing.  You can certainly read more about this headset from 
Logitech's website as well.  Good luck!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 


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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Wed Oct 29 14:00:13 2014
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:00:13 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com><D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC><57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike><CAA+vbPtpO2gQo0E+P2cndsv34H0JsFe40uspupxj-D7K-hXKvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<6B775F1A-7918-469A-8633-704301999F94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84002D3A18854F8582514D5BC3149852@victory2>

Congress does nothing, whether in lame duck or full session.  But let's not 
turn off the waterboarding pressure!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 


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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 14:54:32 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:54:32 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] bluetooth and windows 7 with jaws
In-Reply-To: <4D4E1E4BDDC34135B728CF718A7DFDD6@victory2>
References: <6D3B3E83-507D-49DE-8CEE-05403F53F50F@gmail.com>
	<4D4E1E4BDDC34135B728CF718A7DFDD6@victory2>
Message-ID: <277DC5E6-91E8-4A56-8722-1E74B1997AB0@gmail.com>

thanks, olusegun. do you use your device with windows 7? and if it does not connect using bluetooth, how does it connect wirelessly to your computer? 

thanks,
sy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2014, at 9:56, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sy:
> 
> I use Logitech H800.  It supports both wireless and bluetooth.  To use it as a wireless device, you must use a nano-USB plug.  Bluetooth just requires pairing.
> 
> I've not used it as a bluetooth device, but it does work pretty well as a wireless one.  I've not tested with Windows 8.0-8.1, but I don't see a reason why it won't work.  It's plug-&-play for me and thus far I've not had to install any software to use this headset.
> No problem with Window-Eyes, my preferred screen reader; I doubt if there'll be any problems using this headset with Jaws either but I don't use Jaws!
> 
> Hope the foregoing is reasonably helpful; a good search on Amazon should get you some good pricing.  You can certainly read more about this headset from Logitech's website as well.  Good luck!!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado 
> 
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From LBlake at nfb.org  Wed Oct 29 19:39:04 2014
From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:39:04 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act
In-Reply-To: <84002D3A18854F8582514D5BC3149852@victory2>
References: <E34437A8-6130-4B16-A9B2-41F62AA63713@gmail.com><D11CB47131D4489588AFFCEE2860C849@robinaPC><57CC4786727247928C7586B4C5E170F2@Spike><CAA+vbPtpO2gQo0E+P2cndsv34H0JsFe40uspupxj-D7K-hXKvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<6B775F1A-7918-469A-8633-704301999F94@gmail.com>
	<84002D3A18854F8582514D5BC3149852@victory2>
Message-ID: <e1ce2e0af022447e8c468b424eee3db6@DM2PR07MB541.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

My colleague at the NFB, Lauren McLarney, handles the TEACH Act for our Advocacy and Policy department. Here is what Lauren has to say:
It simply takes a long time to pass a bill. The statement that Congress is against the TEACH Act is not accurate. We have a lot of support in Congress from both sides of the aisle and from important people on the Senate committee.  However, stand-alone bills rarely move, so the TEACH Act only has a hope of passing if it gets roped into a large vehicle and/or is so non-controversial that it can go on the suspension calendar.  The higher ed lobby has problems with it, and so it is not controversy-free enough for the suspension calendar, and although it did indeed get roped into a larger vehicle earlier this year, that vehicle does not have enough time to pass.  Therefore, it is unlikely the bill, or the larger vehicle, will pass this Congress during the lame duck. We are definitely still going to keep pushing, though. Rest assured.  Charles Krugman's suggestion to contact your local Member of Congress is indeed the best way to put that pressure out there, specifically by convincing Republican members of the House to disregard the school's objections.  We will be working in the background to address those concerns, and would like to go into next Congress with a lot of momentum. Another option to put pressure on Congress to do something during the lame duck is to strategize about how to move the larger vehicle in the Senate. However, this depends on the outcome of the elections, and so it's too soon to say how this action item should look.

Everyone should know that the TEACH Act has a lot of support in Congress, and has 20 different endorsing groups. But getting Republicans to overlook the schools objections while we simultaneously try to assuage those objections is a big obstacle right now. Moreover, bills only really move in the two ways I said, and that can take a long time. We are simply short on time this Congress, especially when the Congress has moved as slow as this one has.  


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via blindlaw
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:00 AM
To: Kirt; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update of the TEACH Act

Congress does nothing, whether in lame duck or full session.  But let's not turn off the waterboarding pressure!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 


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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Oct 29 21:21:36 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:21:36 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Last Chance to Help a Great Organization
Message-ID: <00a301cff3be$783d1ac0$68b75040$@labarrelaw.com>

Dear Friends:

 

This will be the last email blast about our Amazing Colorado Raffle because
time is running out.  Tomorrow, in fact, is the last time you can buy
tickets online.  Thanks so much to all who have already entered!  Here is my
message one last time:

 

It is that time of year again where I ask you to consider a donation to the
National Federation of the Blind of Colorado which may also have great
benefit to you.  First of all, I apologize if this email comes to you more
than once due to the nature of the email lists that I am employing.

 

In the past, we have been raffling away a $3500.00 gift certificate to a
travel agency, not this year.  This year, we are giving away $3500 cash to
the lucky winner.  Tickets are only $10 a piece and $20 for three, multiples
thereof applicable.  The drawing will take place on November 1st and you do
not need to be present to win.  Please go to
www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase tickets online or call 303
778-1130, Ext. 223 where Jessica will be happy to take orders over the
phone.  Hurry!  Online sales will close on October 30th at noon Mountain
time.

 

I thank you again for your consideration!  Proceeds benefit NFB programs
such as our Braille literacy camp for children, college scholarship fund, a
talking newspaper service for the blind, and empowerment grants for blind
individuals.  

 

Warmly,

Scott C. LaBarre, President

NFB Colorado

 

P.S.  If you are in the Denver area, we are having a wonderful event on
October 30th called Twist and Shout where we will hear from Art Schreiber
who is now blind and was one of two reporters to travel with the Beatles
fifty years ago on their maiden tour of North America.  Go to
www.nfbco.org/beatlemania to find out more.

 

Pp.'s. Please let us know if you wish to be removed from this list by
sending a reply email.

 

Pp.'s. we are having a fun little contest among our members to see who can
sell the most raffle tickets.  Please put my name in the box indicated on
the form.

 

Thanks again!

 


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Oct 29 21:37:55 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:37:55 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Last Chance to Help a Great Organization
Message-ID: <00be01cff3c0$b8ee7760$2acb6620$@labarrelaw.com>

Dear Friends:

 

This will be the last email blast about our Amazing Colorado Raffle because
time is running out.  Tomorrow, in fact, is the last time you can buy
tickets online.  Thanks so much to all who have already entered!  Here is my
message one last time:

 

It is that time of year again where I ask you to consider a donation to the
National Federation of the Blind of Colorado which may also have great
benefit to you.  First of all, I apologize if this email comes to you more
than once due to the nature of the email lists that I am employing.

 

In the past, we have been raffling away a $3500.00 gift certificate to a
travel agency, not this year.  This year, we are giving away $3500 cash to
the lucky winner.  Tickets are only $10 a piece and $20 for three, multiples
thereof applicable.  The drawing will take place on November 1st and you do
not need to be present to win.  Please go to
www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle to purchase tickets online or call 303
778-1130, Ext. 223 where Jessica will be happy to take orders over the
phone.  Hurry!  Online sales will close on October 30th at noon Mountain
time.

 

I thank you again for your consideration!  Proceeds benefit NFB programs
such as our Braille literacy camp for children, college scholarship fund, a
talking newspaper service for the blind, and empowerment grants for blind
individuals.  

 

Warmly,

Scott C. LaBarre, President

NFB Colorado

 

P.S.  If you are in the Denver area, we are having a wonderful event on
October 30th called Twist and Shout where we will hear from Art Schreiber
who is now blind and was one of two reporters to travel with the Beatles
fifty years ago on their maiden tour of North America.  Go to
www.nfbco.org/beatlemania to find out more.

 

Pp.'s. Please let us know if you wish to be removed from this list by
sending a reply email.

 

Pp.'s. we are having a fun little contest among our members to see who can
sell the most raffle tickets.  Please put my name in the box indicated on
the form.

 

Thanks again!

 


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Thu Oct 30 13:25:54 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:25:54 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: NFBCO Convention Streaming
In-Reply-To: <CA+8hx41X+dx2qK1YJdfa+5A6QrZbcxr4n4kLpWpaSQ34Fad2Og@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+8hx41X+dx2qK1YJdfa+5A6QrZbcxr4n4kLpWpaSQ34Fad2Og@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <077901cff445$09049610$1b0dc230$@labarrelaw.com>

Hey Folks, below you will find streaming for our upcoming convention.  Attached you will find the agenda.  Finally, this is your last chance to purchase raffle tickets online for a chance to win $3500.00.  Please go to www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle and buy, buy, buy.  Online purchases close at noon today Mountain time.  

 

Best,

Scott

 

From: Jessica Beecham [mailto:jbbeecham at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:15 PM
To: User
Subject: NFBCO Convention Streaming

 

If you will not be able to attend this years NFBCO convention you can listen live!

 

 <http://216.241.41.71:8000/nfbco-convention.mp3> http://216.241.41.71:8000/nfbco-convention.mp3

 

We will begin streaming on Friday, October 31 at 11:00am.

 

Best Wishes

 

Jessica Beecham

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From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:21:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies Update
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