From chris.stewart at uky.edu  Mon Sep  1 19:45:42 2014
From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 15:45:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Supplement Time
Message-ID: <CAAyF1PAfGG_UKcNu4MvtJf0n3Ohtv8ZQpHkQSRvAp+ACe_r+dw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Does anyone have any of the following?

Examples & Explanations: Evidence
Examples & Explanations: Trusts & Estates
Questions & Answers: Constitutional Law

Feel free to contact me off list. Thanks in advance!

Best,
chris


-- 
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University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016
Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal
Co-President, American Constitution Society
California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
Ph:
(502)457-1757


From nijat1989 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 00:14:11 2014
From: nijat1989 at gmail.com (Nijat Worley)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:14:11 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Black's Law Dictionary App for iPhone paid version
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Hi all,
   Has anyone here used the Black's Law Dictionary paid version on the
iPhone? Is it accessible? I see that it's $55.00, and I want to make
sure it's accessible b

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From al.elia at aol.com  Tue Sep  2 01:58:39 2014
From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:58:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Black's Law Dictionary App for iPhone paid version
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I have it… It is accessible.

Best,

Al, who is brusquer than usual because he's typing on an iPhone.

> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Nijat Worley via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>   Has anyone here used the Black's Law Dictionary paid version on the
> iPhone? Is it accessible? I see that it's $55.00, and I want to make
> sure it's accessible b
> 
> -- 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create
> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can have the life
> you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
> Help me reach my fundraising goal by making a donation to the
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> https://app.mobilecause.com/public/social/9717.
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Sep  2 17:01:44 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:01:44 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: CORRECTION to USAJobs Link for Summer 2015
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Sep  3 15:49:52 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:49:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's General
	Counsel
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From: United States Access Board [mailto:access-board at service.govdelivery.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:40 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's General Counsel

Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's General Counsel
[cid:image001.jpg at 01CFC754.06F2A7E0]Gretchen Jacobs has joined the Access Board as its new general counsel. An experienced federal litigator and regulatory practitioner, Jacobs has particular expertise in litigation of administrative law issues, federal regulatory processes, and cost-benefit analyses.
Jacobs comes to the Board from the Administrative Conference of the United States where she served as Research Director since 2012. This followed a distinguished career of 22 years at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) where she worked in a variety of positions. Jacobs joined DOJ as an Honor's Program trial attorney at the Federal Programs Branch of the Civil Division and served as lead counsel in over 30 federal district and appellate cases nationwide.
Later, as a member of DOJ's Disability Rights Section of the Civil Rights Division, she litigated enforcement actions under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), including as lead counsel in a major case concerning access to stadium-style movie theaters. She also served as a senior regulatory advisor on ADA implementation efforts where her responsibilities included conducting cost-benefit analyses, advising DOJ officials on legal and policy issues, and representing DOJ in discussions with other federal entities on regulatory matters. She was active in DOJ's development of ADA regulations and standards and regulatory initiatives concerning Next Generation 9-1-1, website accessibility, the ADA Amendments Act, and medical diagnostic equipment. She received merit awards throughout her tenure at DOJ, including the Civil Rights Division's highest awards for her leadership on ADA regulations and related cost-benefit analyses.
Earlier in her federal career, Jacobs served as a law clerk to Judge Warren J. Ferguson of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and as a judicial extern to Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg during her term on the District of Columbia Circuit Court. Jacobs, a native of California, graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Law School with honors (Order of the Coif) and earned a bachelor's degree in history from the University of California at Berkeley.
Jacobs will join the Board on September 8. She succeeds James Raggio who retired in June after 25 years of service.

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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep  3 17:07:40 2014
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:07:40 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's
	General	Counsel
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So, is Ms. Jacobs a blind attorney, or otherwise possessing a disability?

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:40 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's General Counsel

Gretchen Jacobs Named U.S. Access Board's General Counsel
[cid:image001.jpg at 01CFC754.06F2A7E0]Gretchen Jacobs has joined the Access
Board as its new general counsel. An experienced federal litigator and
regulatory practitioner, Jacobs has particular expertise in litigation of
administrative law issues, federal regulatory processes, and cost-benefit
analyses.
Jacobs comes to the Board from the Administrative Conference of the United
States where she served as Research Director since 2012. This followed a
distinguished career of 22 years at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)
where she worked in a variety of positions. Jacobs joined DOJ as an Honor's
Program trial attorney at the Federal Programs Branch of the Civil Division
and served as lead counsel in over 30 federal district and appellate cases
nationwide.
Later, as a member of DOJ's Disability Rights Section of the Civil Rights
Division, she litigated enforcement actions under the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA), including as lead counsel in a major case concerning
access to stadium-style movie theaters. She also served as a senior
regulatory advisor on ADA implementation efforts where her responsibilities
included conducting cost-benefit analyses, advising DOJ officials on legal
and policy issues, and representing DOJ in discussions with other federal
entities on regulatory matters. She was active in DOJ's development of ADA
regulations and standards and regulatory initiatives concerning Next
Generation 9-1-1, website accessibility, the ADA Amendments Act, and medical
diagnostic equipment. She received merit awards throughout her tenure at
DOJ, including the Civil Rights Division's highest awards for her leadership
on ADA regulations and related cost-benefit analyses.
Earlier in her federal career, Jacobs served as a law clerk to Judge Warren
J. Ferguson of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and
as a judicial extern to Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg during her term on the
District of Columbia Circuit Court. Jacobs, a native of California,
graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Law School
with honors (Order of the Coif) and earned a bachelor's degree in history
from the University of California at Berkeley.
Jacobs will join the Board on September 8. She succeeds James Raggio who
retired in June after 25 years of service.

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From amarjain at amarjain.com  Fri Sep  5 05:18:43 2014
From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:48:43 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Due Diligence and accessibility of virtual data
	rooms?
Message-ID: <9b2fd0508882b2682acc3144096b1832.squirrel@amarjain.com>

Dear All,

I am stuck with a virtual data room which is pretty flashy, and of course
you have no way to download or print documents which one could then get
into accessible format for review. I am sure you all must have come across
these challenges, and I would be greatful if you could share your
experience and handy tips to deal with such issues.

Look forward for your responses.

Kind Regards,
Amar Jain



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Sep  5 20:01:43 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:01:43 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice
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USAO Northern District of Alabama

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08/19/2014





USAO Eastern District of California

Assistant United States Attorney<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-50>

CA

08/19/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Attorney Advisor (Counsel to the Director) <http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/attorney-advisor-counsel-director>

VA

08/18/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (San Francisco)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-san-francisco>

CA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (Stewart)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-stewart>

GA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (San Diego)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-san-diego>

CA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (Seattle)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-seattle>

WA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (Tacoma)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-tacoma>

WA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (York)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-york>

PA

08/15/2014





Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR)

Immigration Judge (Tucson)<http://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/immigration-judge-tucson>

AZ

08/15/2014






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From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Sun Sep  7 20:38:37 2014
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 21:38:37 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Due Diligence and accessibility of virtual
 data rooms?
In-Reply-To: <9b2fd0508882b2682acc3144096b1832.squirrel@amarjain.com>
References: <9b2fd0508882b2682acc3144096b1832.squirrel@amarjain.com>
Message-ID: <CAGZitzKDOizJMMOy92nEQZJGRsLsu6PWBUPxCPM7i+mUr7YEUA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Amar,

If there is really no way to print or download documents and no way to
get an accessible version of such documents on the dataroom, you have
got a real problem. In my experience, it usually is possible to
download or print documents and I know that several partners at the
firm I work in always get docs printed for their review.

I wonder if you could check with sighted colleagues to establish if
they can print and download? If so, they may be able to download a
batch for you.

This is a difficult problem and an issue which I think this
association could usefully raise with the providers of such platforms.
In principle, the work should be especially accessible, since the
material is pre-scanned and it is only the inaccessibility of the
technology used that makes it otherwise.

Kind regards

Ger

On 9/5/14, Amar Jain via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am stuck with a virtual data room which is pretty flashy, and of course
> you have no way to download or print documents which one could then get
> into accessible format for review. I am sure you all must have come across
> these challenges, and I would be greatful if you could share your
> experience and handy tips to deal with such issues.
>
> Look forward for your responses.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
>
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Mon Sep  8 15:01:12 2014
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:01:12 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Save the Date 2015 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law
	Symposium
In-Reply-To: <20140908143010.144F12C5464@lx-web.nfb.org>
References: <20140908143010.144F12C5464@lx-web.nfb.org>
Message-ID: <012301cfcb75$bb51b4e0$31f51ea0$@labarrelaw.com>

Greetings everyone, I know that the below will be of interest to some.  Yes, I know that next year represents the 25th anniversary of the ADA.  We haven’t lost our minds.  Grin Undoubtedly, there will be scores of programs looking back over the 25 years etc.  Our purpose is to reflect briefly upon where we are, but more importantly, look forward to the future and discuss how we get there.

 

Best,

Scott

 

From: Lou Ann Blake [mailto:lblake at nfb.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:30 AM
To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com
Subject: Save the Date 2015 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium

 

Dear Friend:

I am pleased to announce that plans are well underway for the 2015 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium, "The ADA at 50: The Future of Disability Law and the Right to Live in the World."  Mark your calendar to attend the Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute on March 26-27, 2015.  The symposium will conclude at approximately 12:30 PM on Friday, March 27. We have moved the symposium to March to better fit the academic schedule of area law schools in the hope that even more law students will attend.

 

Be sure to visit the law symposium Web page at https://nfb.org/law-symposium <http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3836&qid=614770>  during the coming months for agenda, registration, and hotel information.  You will also find links to recordings of the 2008 through 2014 (coming soon) symposia on this Web page. 

 

I look forward to seeing you on March 26-27, 2015 at the Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium.  Be sure to save the date.

With best regards,

Lou Ann Blake
HAVA Project Manager and Law Symposium Coordinator
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street 
    at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230
Fax: (410) 659-5129
E-mail: lblake at nfb.org
Web site: www.nfb.org <http://nfb.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=3837&qid=614770> 

 

 

 

 

 

 


National Federation of the Blind

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at Jernigan Place
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United States

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From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV  Tue Sep  9 14:41:24 2014
From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR))
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:41:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Job Posting
Message-ID: <FC3590EE5FEF7842ABCCFBE0C22F24FA2BD902D8@hh-emsmb15>

I received the following announcement:



[cid:image001.png at 01CFCC01.74283760]


HEALTH CARE ASSOCIATE
The health care practice group of Davis Wright Tremaine LLP is seeking an associate with a minimum of three years' experience with transactional health law/health care industry knowledge, a strong academic background and strong legal writing, contract drafting and oral communication skills for the firm's Seattle office. Candidates must have a JD with preference given to candidates with membership in the Washington State Bar. References are required.
To apply please upload a cover letter addressed to Kathleen Shaw, Lateral Attorney Recruiting Manager, resume, a copy of your law school transcript, and a brief writing sample, through our Self Apply site.<https://selfapply.dwt.com/viSelfApply/viRecruitSelfApply/ReDefault.aspx?FilterREID=5&FilterJobCategoryID=1&FilterJobID=51>
Davis Wright Tremaine believes that every employee has the right to work in surroundings that are free from all forms of unlawful discrimination. It is Davis Wright Tremaine's policy to hire, promote, transfer, terminate, and make all other employment-related decisions without regard to an employee's race, color, sex, religion, age, national origin, handicap, sexual orientation, gender identity or any other basis prohibited by applicable local, state, or federal law.




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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Sep 11 21:58:41 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:58:41 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and
 putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post, September 10 2014
In-Reply-To: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>


Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/10/uber-sued-for-allegedly-refusing-rides-to-the-blind-and-putting-a-dog-in-the-trunk/

Text:
Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the trunk
By Gail Sullivan
September 10

An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service dogs.

The federal civil rights suit filed Tuesday by the California chapter of the National Federation of the Blind cites instances in California and elsewhere when blind Uber customers summoned a car only to be refused a ride once the driver saw them with a service dog. In some cases, drivers allegedly abandoned blind travelers in extreme weather and charged cancellation fees after denying them rides, the complaint said.

The complaint filed in a Northern California District Court cites one instance where a California UberX driver put a service dog in the trunk and refused to pull over when the blind passenger realized where the animal was.

On another occasion a passenger was trying to explain that his dog was not a pet but a service animal when the driver allegedly cursed at him and accelerated abruptly, nearly injuring the dog and striking the passenger's friend, who is also blind, with an open car door.

The group said it's aware of more than 30 times blind customers were denied rides in violation of the American with Disabilities Act and California state law.

As a result, blind passengers are confronting unexpected delays and "face the degrading experience of being denied a basic service that is available to all other paying customers," the complaint said.

Services such as Uber are quickly supplanting traditional taxis, a service blind people rely on due to the limitations of public transportation.

The National Federation of the Blind wants Uber to educate its drivers about disability rights and punish the violators in addition to providing a way for disabled passengers to immediately register complaints when they are refused rides because of service dogs.

In a statement reported by the San Francisco Examiner, Uber said its policy is to terminate drivers who refuse to transport service animals. "The Uber app is built to expand access to transportation options for all, including users with visual impairments and other disabilities," the statement said.

However, Uber allegedly told some passengers it can't control what drivers do because they are independent contractors. The company advised them to let drivers know about their animals ahead of time, said the Federation, which filed suit after Uber rejected its request to negotiate a solution.

The group claims the company closely monitors and controls its drivers by managing payments and services through the app, and by assessing driver performance based on customer feedback.

In September 2013,California's Public Utilities Commission classified UberX as a transportation provider because it functions like a taxi dispatch. The commission also said that UberX may not discriminate against the disabled, the Federation noted.

Figuring out whether to treat Uber like a traditional taxi service or something else is the subject of heated debate across the country. Taxi services are required by federal law to serve the disabled, even if drivers are independent contractors.

Gail Sullivan covers business for the Morning Mix blog.

From tim at timeldermusic.com  Fri Sep 12 22:55:57 2014
From: tim at timeldermusic.com (Tim Elder)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:55:57 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind
	and putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post,
	September 10 2014
In-Reply-To: <04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>
References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
	<04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <02cc01cfcedc$b6dbaa50$2492fef0$@timeldermusic.com>

Our legal team is currently collecting additional stories of passengers with
service animals who experienced discrimination by Uber drivers.  We are
documenting incidents both in and out of California.  Don't hesitate to
contact me if you would like to report an incident or share your experiences
with Uber and a service animal.

Regards,

Tim Elder
www.Trelegal.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Nightingale, Noel [mailto:Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:59 PM
To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and
putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post, September 10 2014


Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/10/uber-sued-for-a
llegedly-refusing-rides-to-the-blind-and-putting-a-dog-in-the-trunk/

Text:
Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the
trunk By Gail Sullivan September 10

An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service
Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service
dogs.

The federal civil rights suit filed Tuesday by the California chapter of the
National Federation of the Blind cites instances in California and elsewhere
when blind Uber customers summoned a car only to be refused a ride once the
driver saw them with a service dog. In some cases, drivers allegedly
abandoned blind travelers in extreme weather and charged cancellation fees
after denying them rides, the complaint said.

The complaint filed in a Northern California District Court cites one
instance where a California UberX driver put a service dog in the trunk and
refused to pull over when the blind passenger realized where the animal was.

On another occasion a passenger was trying to explain that his dog was not a
pet but a service animal when the driver allegedly cursed at him and
accelerated abruptly, nearly injuring the dog and striking the passenger's
friend, who is also blind, with an open car door.

The group said it's aware of more than 30 times blind customers were denied
rides in violation of the American with Disabilities Act and California
state law.

As a result, blind passengers are confronting unexpected delays and "face
the degrading experience of being denied a basic service that is available
to all other paying customers," the complaint said.

Services such as Uber are quickly supplanting traditional taxis, a service
blind people rely on due to the limitations of public transportation.

The National Federation of the Blind wants Uber to educate its drivers about
disability rights and punish the violators in addition to providing a way
for disabled passengers to immediately register complaints when they are
refused rides because of service dogs.

In a statement reported by the San Francisco Examiner, Uber said its policy
is to terminate drivers who refuse to transport service animals. "The Uber
app is built to expand access to transportation options for all, including
users with visual impairments and other disabilities," the statement said.

However, Uber allegedly told some passengers it can't control what drivers
do because they are independent contractors. The company advised them to let
drivers know about their animals ahead of time, said the Federation, which
filed suit after Uber rejected its request to negotiate a solution.

The group claims the company closely monitors and controls its drivers by
managing payments and services through the app, and by assessing driver
performance based on customer feedback.

In September 2013,California's Public Utilities Commission classified UberX
as a transportation provider because it functions like a taxi dispatch. The
commission also said that UberX may not discriminate against the disabled,
the Federation noted.

Figuring out whether to treat Uber like a traditional taxi service or
something else is the subject of heated debate across the country. Taxi
services are required by federal law to serve the disabled, even if drivers
are independent contractors.

Gail Sullivan covers business for the Morning Mix blog.




From merisa.musemic at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 02:07:16 2014
From: merisa.musemic at gmail.com (Merisa Musemic)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:07:16 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT Study Guide
Message-ID: <CAEqhgcQ-x8kpdWwx9oX9m7wZ_4_qEG9jFqM2oP1rMyYQ3VpzsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,
I'm currently studying for the LSAT. I'm currently using the Princeton
Review Study Guide as well as the LSAT study guide produced by LSAC.
I'm wondering if anyone else has used these and other study guides
that were beneficial.
Thank you so much. I look forward to networking with all of you.
Merisa Musemic


From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 13 15:27:58 2014
From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:27:58 -0300
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
Message-ID: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>

Hi folks:

Do you use west law to research court opinions?

If so, can someone explain me how to do it?

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com




From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Sat Sep 13 16:22:08 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:22:08 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C3825232-AE10-4C05-A29E-BB67A4835997@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

I can help walk you through it if you'd like. 9032716494

Best
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks:
> 
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
> 
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
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From samarositz at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 18:20:08 2014
From: samarositz at gmail.com (Stephen Alexander Marositz)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:20:08 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>

Hi List

First time posting to the list.  
The text based version works better. 

https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y&clien
tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&path=%2Fw
elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreate=no&s
w=0&vr=2.0


Stephen Alexander Marositz

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos
Rodrigues via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

Hi folks:

Do you use west law to research court opinions?

If so, can someone explain me how to do it?

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com



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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Mon Sep 15 14:57:23 2014
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:57:23 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>
References: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
	<001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE4C4D55ED9DAD44AF21164D4915BF72380E459C@SPEXCHMB01.central.pima.gov>

I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work fairly well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more efficient, or if it is because I have some residual vision and thus find the screen less distracting.  The only annoyance with the text-only version, at least on our network, is that you MUST use a client identifier / dummy identifier when logging in, or it will not take your username and password.  I have not had this happen on the more "modern" versions of westlaw.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

Hi List

First time posting to the list.  
The text based version works better. 

https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y&clien
tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&path=%2Fw
elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreate=no&s
w=0&vr=2.0


Stephen Alexander Marositz

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

Hi folks:

Do you use west law to research court opinions?

If so, can someone explain me how to do it?

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com



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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 16:43:24 2014
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:43:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <BE4C4D55ED9DAD44AF21164D4915BF72380E459C@SPEXCHMB01.central.pima.gov>
References: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
	<001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>
	<BE4C4D55ED9DAD44AF21164D4915BF72380E459C@SPEXCHMB01.central.pima.gov>
Message-ID: <CAN4Q-Eq87sLLpapYorPX0Ly58HWTEj7PziUW4wsy5k8cmedx4A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I
tried it) it seemed it did not display as much information about each
search result, so I had to click on each result to determine if it was
indeed relevant to me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer
Westlaw Next or Westlaw Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and
maybe the presentation has changed since I used the site.

One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts
available through your screen access technology. For example, I use
JAWS for Windows, and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and
backward by checkbox, respectively. There is a checkbox associated
with each search result, so this gives me a quick way to move among
the results. I haven't used Westlaw extensively with any other access
technology, so I can't speak to available keyboard shortcuts in
anything other than JAWS.

I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the
one that works best given particular needs and access technology.

Angie


On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work fairly
> well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring
> text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more efficient, or
> if it is because I have some residual vision and thus find the screen less
> distracting.  The only annoyance with the text-only version, at least on our
> network, is that you MUST use a client identifier / dummy identifier when
> logging in, or it will not take your username and password.  I have not had
> this happen on the more "modern" versions of westlaw.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi List
>
> First time posting to the list.
> The text based version works better.
>
> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y&clien
> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&path=%2Fw
> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreate=no&s
> w=0&vr=2.0
>
>
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos
> Rodrigues via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi folks:
>
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
>
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
>
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Mon Sep 15 17:30:12 2014
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:30:12 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website
Message-ID: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>

I use Westlaw classic with jaws for everything.  I tried text.westlaw years ago, but it didn't have all the features of Westlaw classic.  I don't know if that has changed.  Lexis was always very accessible as well, although I haven't used it much in a long time.




Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:43 PM
To: Susan Kelly; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I tried it) it seemed it did not display as much information about each search result, so I had to click on each result to determine if it was indeed relevant to me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer Westlaw Next or Westlaw Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and maybe the presentation has changed since I used the site.

One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts available through your screen access technology. For example, I use JAWS for Windows, and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and backward by checkbox, respectively. There is a checkbox associated with each search result, so this gives me a quick way to move among the results. I haven't used Westlaw extensively with any other access technology, so I can't speak to available keyboard shortcuts in anything other than JAWS.

I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the one that works best given particular needs and access technology.

Angie


On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work 
> fairly well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring 
> text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more 
> efficient, or if it is because I have some residual vision and thus 
> find the screen less distracting.  The only annoyance with the 
> text-only version, at least on our network, is that you MUST use a 
> client identifier / dummy identifier when logging in, or it will not 
> take your username and password.  I have not had this happen on the more "modern" versions of westlaw.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi List
>
> First time posting to the list.
> The text based version works better.
>
> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y
> &clien 
> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24% 
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24% 
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&pat
> h=%2Fw 
> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreat
> e=no&s
> w=0&vr=2.0
>
>
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi folks:
>
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
>
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
>
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 03:52:11 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:52:11 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
Message-ID: <004701cfd161$98fc7af0$caf570d0$@gmail.com>

Westlaw has attorneys who will set up phone appointments with their
customers who have screen readers and train you on how to use their sites.
The attorneys who do the trainings were super helpful for me, and I have
never had any serious problems using Westlaw Next. The trainings focus on
Westlaw Next because, as they told me, the company will eventually shift
entirely to that platform and eliminate Westlaw Classic, whose use is waning
anyway. 

You can contact your Westlaw rep or call the reference attorney help line to
set up an appointment.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz
via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM
To: Angie Matney; Blind Law Mailing List; Susan Kelly
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website

I use Westlaw classic with jaws for everything.  I tried text.westlaw years
ago, but it didn't have all the features of Westlaw classic.  I don't know
if that has changed.  Lexis was always very accessible as well, although I
haven't used it much in a long time.




Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
Fax:  (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie
Matney via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:43 PM
To: Susan Kelly; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I tried it)
it seemed it did not display as much information about each search result,
so I had to click on each result to determine if it was indeed relevant to
me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer Westlaw Next or Westlaw
Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and maybe the presentation has
changed since I used the site.

One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts available
through your screen access technology. For example, I use JAWS for Windows,
and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and backward by checkbox,
respectively. There is a checkbox associated with each search result, so
this gives me a quick way to move among the results. I haven't used Westlaw
extensively with any other access technology, so I can't speak to available
keyboard shortcuts in anything other than JAWS.

I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the one
that works best given particular needs and access technology.

Angie


On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work 
> fairly well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring 
> text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more 
> efficient, or if it is because I have some residual vision and thus 
> find the screen less distracting.  The only annoyance with the 
> text-only version, at least on our network, is that you MUST use a 
> client identifier / dummy identifier when logging in, or it will not 
> take your username and password.  I have not had this happen on the more
"modern" versions of westlaw.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi List
>
> First time posting to the list.
> The text based version works better.
>
> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y
> &clien 
> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24% 
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24% 
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&pat
> h=%2Fw 
> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreat
> e=no&s
> w=0&vr=2.0
>
>
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi folks:
>
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
>
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
>
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Sep 16 14:26:30 2014
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:26:30 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <004701cfd161$98fc7af0$caf570d0$@gmail.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
	<004701cfd161$98fc7af0$caf570d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE4C4D55ED9DAD44AF21164D4915BF72380E4C07@SPEXCHMB01.central.pima.gov>

In your sessions with them, have they mentioned whether the company will continue the text-only site?  I can use both, but particularly when at court and relying on my iPad / VoiceOver, text.westlaw.com is still faster and more efficient.  (Juvenile delinquency practice - I am lucky if the judges have any patience at all with the delay caused by any type of assistive devices, even a human legal assistant).

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sy Hoekstra via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:52 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website

Westlaw has attorneys who will set up phone appointments with their customers who have screen readers and train you on how to use their sites.
The attorneys who do the trainings were super helpful for me, and I have never had any serious problems using Westlaw Next. The trainings focus on Westlaw Next because, as they told me, the company will eventually shift entirely to that platform and eliminate Westlaw Classic, whose use is waning anyway. 

You can contact your Westlaw rep or call the reference attorney help line to set up an appointment.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:30 PM
To: Angie Matney; Blind Law Mailing List; Susan Kelly
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website

I use Westlaw classic with jaws for everything.  I tried text.westlaw years ago, but it didn't have all the features of Westlaw classic.  I don't know if that has changed.  Lexis was always very accessible as well, although I haven't used it much in a long time.




Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
Fax:  (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com

www.wiennergould.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:43 PM
To: Susan Kelly; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website

I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I tried it) it seemed it did not display as much information about each search result, so I had to click on each result to determine if it was indeed relevant to me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer Westlaw Next or Westlaw Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and maybe the presentation has changed since I used the site.

One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts available through your screen access technology. For example, I use JAWS for Windows, and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and backward by checkbox, respectively. There is a checkbox associated with each search result, so this gives me a quick way to move among the results. I haven't used Westlaw extensively with any other access technology, so I can't speak to available keyboard shortcuts in anything other than JAWS.

I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the one that works best given particular needs and access technology.

Angie


On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work 
> fairly well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring 
> text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more 
> efficient, or if it is because I have some residual vision and thus 
> find the screen less distracting.  The only annoyance with the 
> text-only version, at least on our network, is that you MUST use a 
> client identifier / dummy identifier when logging in, or it will not 
> take your username and password.  I have not had this happen on the 
> more
"modern" versions of westlaw.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi List
>
> First time posting to the list.
> The text based version works better.
>
> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y
> &clien
> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%
> 3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&pat
> h=%2Fw
> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreat
> e=no&s
> w=0&vr=2.0
>
>
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>
> Hi folks:
>
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
>
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
>
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lmendez at twcny.rr.com  Tue Sep 16 17:24:17 2014
From: lmendez at twcny.rr.com (Luis Mendez)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:24:17 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
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I have been very pleased with the research power and accessibility of Westlaw Next.  It is a web based platform with a Google style search interface.  Thus far i haven't run into any problems using either JAWS or Voiceover. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Dan Beitz via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use Westlaw classic with jaws for everything.  I tried text.westlaw years ago, but it didn't have all the features of Westlaw classic.  I don't know if that has changed.  Lexis was always very accessible as well, although I haven't used it much in a long time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> 
> www.wiennergould.com
> 
> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached
> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are
> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email
> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney via blindlaw
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: Susan Kelly; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
> 
> I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I tried it) it seemed it did not display as much information about each search result, so I had to click on each result to determine if it was indeed relevant to me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer Westlaw Next or Westlaw Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and maybe the presentation has changed since I used the site.
> 
> One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts available through your screen access technology. For example, I use JAWS for Windows, and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and backward by checkbox, respectively. There is a checkbox associated with each search result, so this gives me a quick way to move among the results. I haven't used Westlaw extensively with any other access technology, so I can't speak to available keyboard shortcuts in anything other than JAWS.
> 
> I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the one that works best given particular needs and access technology.
> 
> Angie
> 
> 
> On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:


From d-benbow at live.com  Wed Sep 17 00:42:48 2014
From: d-benbow at live.com (Dawn Benbow)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:42:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>
References: <BLU437-SMTP100D43F775B1EECEE6EA019CDCA0@phx.gbl>
	<001401cfcf7f$5ae0ec80$10a2c580$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY407-EAS14952C6F3724E2B89B6197EF9B60@phx.gbl>

Hi,

	In my college Paralegal program we use Westlaw and Lexis extensively. I prefer to use the WestLaw app on my iPad. Though the text site is more accessible than the regular version, I find the app to be even better.

Dawn

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2014, at 2:20 PM, "Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi List
> 
> First time posting to the list.  
> The text based version works better. 
> 
> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y&clien
> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%3A%24%
> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&path=%2Fw
> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreate=no&s
> w=0&vr=2.0
> 
> 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos
> Rodrigues via blindlaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
> 
> Hi folks:
> 
> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
> 
> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
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From d-benbow at live.com  Wed Sep 17 00:54:16 2014
From: d-benbow at live.com (Dawn Benbow)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:54:16 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] A question about Westlaw website
In-Reply-To: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681ACE8CA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
Message-ID: <BAY407-EAS319917D3C81FFE5F72E1E96F9B60@phx.gbl>

Hi Dan,

	In the paralegal program at Madonna University, they have us use Lexis a bit, but mostly WestLaw. I found that WestLaw seemed to be the more accessible of the two for me. But as I said in another post, I preferred to use the WestLaw iPad app over any of the versions of the WestLaw site. I don't know if any of you have tried it yet, but I find it extremely accessible. I've used the WestLaw and Nexis sites and the app as recently as January for research for one of my classes.

	BTW, I'm in Michigan, and it's nice to see someone else from around the Metro Detroit area on the list.

Dawn

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:40 PM, "Dan Beitz via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use Westlaw classic with jaws for everything.  I tried text.westlaw years ago, but it didn't have all the features of Westlaw classic.  I don't know if that has changed.  Lexis was always very accessible as well, although I haven't used it much in a long time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> 
> www.wiennergould.com
> 
> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached
> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are
> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email
> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to
> this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error,
> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning
> us at (248) 841-9400.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney via blindlaw
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: Susan Kelly; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
> 
> I'm personally not a fan of text.westlaw.com, as (at least when I tried it) it seemed it did not display as much information about each search result, so I had to click on each result to determine if it was indeed relevant to me. I found this to be inefficient. I prefer Westlaw Next or Westlaw Classic. Others' experiences may vary, and maybe the presentation has changed since I used the site.
> 
> One thing that is very helpful is using the keyboard shortcuts available through your screen access technology. For example, I use JAWS for Windows, and I can use x and shift-x to move forward and backward by checkbox, respectively. There is a checkbox associated with each search result, so this gives me a quick way to move among the results. I haven't used Westlaw extensively with any other access technology, so I can't speak to available keyboard shortcuts in anything other than JAWS.
> 
> I'm glad there are several Westlaw sites so that we can each find the one that works best given particular needs and access technology.
> 
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/14, Susan Kelly via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I was one of the test cases for Westlaw Next, and while it does work 
>> fairly well with assistive technology, I still find myself preferring 
>> text.westlaw.com as well.  I do not know if it is truly more 
>> efficient, or if it is because I have some residual vision and thus 
>> find the screen less distracting.  The only annoyance with the 
>> text-only version, at least on our network, is that you MUST use a 
>> client identifier / dummy identifier when logging in, or it will not 
>> take your username and password.  I have not had this happen on the more "modern" versions of westlaw.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:20 AM
>> To: 'Marcos Rodrigues'; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>> 
>> Hi List
>> 
>> First time posting to the list.
>> The text based version works better.
>> 
>> https://text.westlaw.com/signon/paralegalagreement.wl?bhcp=1&clickit=y
>> &clien 
>> tid=samarositz&fn=_top&js=on&Logon.x=0&Logon.y=0&myname=%40%3F%25m%3C%
>> 3A%24% 
>> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXU~TxT%7Fb~lq%7F&mypwd=%40%3F%25m%3C%
>> 3A%24% 
>> 3E%22%3F%25%3C9-%247%244%3F%3D8-EXUO%263WD%24zZ[%3CWE&newdoor=true&pat
>> h=%2Fw 
>> elcome%2Fwlto%2Fdefault.aspx&rs=ACCS13.04&sh=0&so=mup&ssl=y&strrecreat
>> e=no&s
>> w=0&vr=2.0
>> 
>> 
>> Stephen Alexander Marositz
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] A question about westlaw website
>> 
>> Hi folks:
>> 
>> Do you use west law to research court opinions?
>> 
>> If so, can someone explain me how to do it?
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Marcos Rodrigues
>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From wmodnl at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 19 04:34:54 2014
From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:34:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the
	blind	and putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post,
	September 10 2014
In-Reply-To: <02cc01cfcedc$b6dbaa50$2492fef0$@timeldermusic.com>
References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
	<04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>
	<02cc01cfcedc$b6dbaa50$2492fef0$@timeldermusic.com>
Message-ID: <BLU402-EAS368EB5CFD4A1C8B190196ADCB40@phx.gbl>

Hi,
I have had nothing but positive experiences with Uber, even though,  all drivers are independent contracters, etc.
For example, I was traveling with another individual. We informed them that one of us had a guide dog. The driver contacted us, telling us that they were sorry that they had a small car, one that would not probably accommodate us. Rashod, the driver came to us, and waited until a SUV came that could accommodate us. We later found out that, he gave our driver something for going out of their way. We were not charged. Uber also gave us another $30 off our next ride due to the "disruption" that was not really a disruption.
I think that, this is one of those cases ware, one bad apple has ruined it for others.
Another time, I contacted my driver before getting me. I told them that, I had a lot of items and was blind. I received great customer service; and, that, the driver asked me why I did not have my dog, as if they were expecting it. They informed me that, they receive special training to properly service and handle people with disabilities regardless of the fact that they are independent contractors.  They understand and agree, prior to picking-up passengers that, as drivers of the service, they will encounter various individuals including those with various conditions. As a result, they must treat them as they would want to be treated.  Some mock examples are shown through live and taped demonstrations.
For example, they go through a situation ware someone has a small medical problem. Additionally, they discuss briefly how people with varying conditions travel in communities, including discussing various tools and devices that maybe used. They suggest that, if they are picking-up these individuals that, the driver should offer to exet the vehicle and open the door at their destination.  The suit, and/or possible discrimination claims are crap! Hope this helps some of you. Have a good evening.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 12, 2014, at 6:57 PM, "Tim Elder via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Our legal team is currently collecting additional stories of passengers with
> service animals who experienced discrimination by Uber drivers.  We are
> documenting incidents both in and out of California.  Don't hesitate to
> contact me if you would like to report an incident or share your experiences
> with Uber and a service animal.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tim Elder
> www.Trelegal.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nightingale, Noel [mailto:Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:59 PM
> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and
> putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post, September 10 2014
> 
> 
> Link:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/10/uber-sued-for-a
> llegedly-refusing-rides-to-the-blind-and-putting-a-dog-in-the-trunk/
> 
> Text:
> Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the
> trunk By Gail Sullivan September 10
> 
> An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service
> Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service
> dogs.
> 
> The federal civil rights suit filed Tuesday by the California chapter of the
> National Federation of the Blind cites instances in California and elsewhere
> when blind Uber customers summoned a car only to be refused a ride once the
> driver saw them with a service dog. In some cases, drivers allegedly
> abandoned blind travelers in extreme weather and charged cancellation fees
> after denying them rides, the complaint said.
> 
> The complaint filed in a Northern California District Court cites one
> instance where a California UberX driver put a service dog in the trunk and
> refused to pull over when the blind passenger realized where the animal was.
> 
> On another occasion a passenger was trying to explain that his dog was not a
> pet but a service animal when the driver allegedly cursed at him and
> accelerated abruptly, nearly injuring the dog and striking the passenger's
> friend, who is also blind, with an open car door.
> 
> The group said it's aware of more than 30 times blind customers were denied
> rides in violation of the American with Disabilities Act and California
> state law.
> 
> As a result, blind passengers are confronting unexpected delays and "face
> the degrading experience of being denied a basic service that is available
> to all other paying customers," the complaint said.
> 
> Services such as Uber are quickly supplanting traditional taxis, a service
> blind people rely on due to the limitations of public transportation.
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind wants Uber to educate its drivers about
> disability rights and punish the violators in addition to providing a way
> for disabled passengers to immediately register complaints when they are
> refused rides because of service dogs.
> 
> In a statement reported by the San Francisco Examiner, Uber said its policy
> is to terminate drivers who refuse to transport service animals. "The Uber
> app is built to expand access to transportation options for all, including
> users with visual impairments and other disabilities," the statement said.
> 
> However, Uber allegedly told some passengers it can't control what drivers
> do because they are independent contractors. The company advised them to let
> drivers know about their animals ahead of time, said the Federation, which
> filed suit after Uber rejected its request to negotiate a solution.
> 
> The group claims the company closely monitors and controls its drivers by
> managing payments and services through the app, and by assessing driver
> performance based on customer feedback.
> 
> In September 2013,California's Public Utilities Commission classified UberX
> as a transportation provider because it functions like a taxi dispatch. The
> commission also said that UberX may not discriminate against the disabled,
> the Federation noted.
> 
> Figuring out whether to treat Uber like a traditional taxi service or
> something else is the subject of heated debate across the country. Taxi
> services are required by federal law to serve the disabled, even if drivers
> are independent contractors.
> 
> Gail Sullivan covers business for the Morning Mix blog.
> 
> 
> 
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From samarositz at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 12:54:37 2014
From: samarositz at gmail.com (Stephen Alexander Marositz)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:54:37 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Performance Test
Message-ID: <00cb01cfd408$dfb59540$9f20bfc0$@gmail.com>

Hello List

 

I am a Jaws user and I plan to take the California Bar this summer.  

 

I am taking a class designed to simulate the performance test.  Can anyone
share with me what I can expect?  Here I am talking about nuts and bolts,
not the content of the test.  How will the exam be formatted?  What software
will they allow me to use to read it?  Will they allow me to manipulate it
in any way?

 

For our first practice exam, it was one long pdf file.  I opened it up in
QRead <file:///C:\Program%20Files%20(x86)\QRead\readme.html#qread>  and
placed bookmarks between each of the authorities so I could move between
them easily.  I doubt I will be allowed to do that for the actual exam.  

 

I have a second but related question.  I understand for the actual bar exam,
I will probably be granted extra time.  Because this is a class where we
will likely be doing one practice performance test each class session,
taking the extra time is somewhat impractical.  Should I be trying to do
them in the regular time now to improve my speed with reading and writing?
To this point, every other exam I have taken I have been granted double
time.  Alternatively, should I look to take the extra time now to better
simulate how it will be on the bar?  

 

Thank you in advance for your insight.  

 

Stephen Alexander Marositz

 


From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 14:13:22 2014
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:13:22 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind
	and putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post,
	September 10 2014
In-Reply-To: <BLU402-EAS368EB5CFD4A1C8B190196ADCB40@phx.gbl>
References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
	<04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>
	<02cc01cfcedc$b6dbaa50$2492fef0$@timeldermusic.com>
	<BLU402-EAS368EB5CFD4A1C8B190196ADCB40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5B338CDD-6615-48AB-9C74-88B6E66B1B2B@gmail.com>

William,
I think it's appropriate to remember that you live in America's biggest city. The very nature of uber means that the teams in each city have quite a bit of autonomy. That being the case, it isn't hard for me to see how your experience and the claims alleged in the suit are not mutually exclusive.
Best,
Kirt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:34 PM, wmodnl wmodnl via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have had nothing but positive experiences with Uber, even though,  all drivers are independent contracters, etc.
> For example, I was traveling with another individual. We informed them that one of us had a guide dog. The driver contacted us, telling us that they were sorry that they had a small car, one that would not probably accommodate us. Rashod, the driver came to us, and waited until a SUV came that could accommodate us. We later found out that, he gave our driver something for going out of their way. We were not charged. Uber also gave us another $30 off our next ride due to the "disruption" that was not really a disruption.
> I think that, this is one of those cases ware, one bad apple has ruined it for others.
> Another time, I contacted my driver before getting me. I told them that, I had a lot of items and was blind. I received great customer service; and, that, the driver asked me why I did not have my dog, as if they were expecting it. They informed me that, they receive special training to properly service and handle people with disabilities regardless of the fact that they are independent contractors.  They understand and agree, prior to picking-up passengers that, as drivers of the service, they will encounter various individuals including those with various conditions. As a result, they must treat them as they would want to be treated.  Some mock examples are shown through live and taped demonstrations.
> For example, they go through a situation ware someone has a small medical problem. Additionally, they discuss briefly how people with varying conditions travel in communities, including discussing various tools and devices that maybe used. They suggest that, if they are picking-up these individuals that, the driver should offer to exet the vehicle and open the door at their destination.  The suit, and/or possible discrimination claims are crap! Hope this helps some of you. Have a good evening.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 6:57 PM, "Tim Elder via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Our legal team is currently collecting additional stories of passengers with
>> service animals who experienced discrimination by Uber drivers.  We are
>> documenting incidents both in and out of California.  Don't hesitate to
>> contact me if you would like to report an incident or share your experiences
>> with Uber and a service animal.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Tim Elder
>> www.Trelegal.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nightingale, Noel [mailto:Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov] 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:59 PM
>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and
>> putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post, September 10 2014
>> 
>> 
>> Link:
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/10/uber-sued-for-a
>> llegedly-refusing-rides-to-the-blind-and-putting-a-dog-in-the-trunk/
>> 
>> Text:
>> Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the
>> trunk By Gail Sullivan September 10
>> 
>> An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service
>> Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service
>> dogs.
>> 
>> The federal civil rights suit filed Tuesday by the California chapter of the
>> National Federation of the Blind cites instances in California and elsewhere
>> when blind Uber customers summoned a car only to be refused a ride once the
>> driver saw them with a service dog. In some cases, drivers allegedly
>> abandoned blind travelers in extreme weather and charged cancellation fees
>> after denying them rides, the complaint said.
>> 
>> The complaint filed in a Northern California District Court cites one
>> instance where a California UberX driver put a service dog in the trunk and
>> refused to pull over when the blind passenger realized where the animal was.
>> 
>> On another occasion a passenger was trying to explain that his dog was not a
>> pet but a service animal when the driver allegedly cursed at him and
>> accelerated abruptly, nearly injuring the dog and striking the passenger's
>> friend, who is also blind, with an open car door.
>> 
>> The group said it's aware of more than 30 times blind customers were denied
>> rides in violation of the American with Disabilities Act and California
>> state law.
>> 
>> As a result, blind passengers are confronting unexpected delays and "face
>> the degrading experience of being denied a basic service that is available
>> to all other paying customers," the complaint said.
>> 
>> Services such as Uber are quickly supplanting traditional taxis, a service
>> blind people rely on due to the limitations of public transportation.
>> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind wants Uber to educate its drivers about
>> disability rights and punish the violators in addition to providing a way
>> for disabled passengers to immediately register complaints when they are
>> refused rides because of service dogs.
>> 
>> In a statement reported by the San Francisco Examiner, Uber said its policy
>> is to terminate drivers who refuse to transport service animals. "The Uber
>> app is built to expand access to transportation options for all, including
>> users with visual impairments and other disabilities," the statement said.
>> 
>> However, Uber allegedly told some passengers it can't control what drivers
>> do because they are independent contractors. The company advised them to let
>> drivers know about their animals ahead of time, said the Federation, which
>> filed suit after Uber rejected its request to negotiate a solution.
>> 
>> The group claims the company closely monitors and controls its drivers by
>> managing payments and services through the app, and by assessing driver
>> performance based on customer feedback.
>> 
>> In September 2013,California's Public Utilities Commission classified UberX
>> as a transportation provider because it functions like a taxi dispatch. The
>> commission also said that UberX may not discriminate against the disabled,
>> the Federation noted.
>> 
>> Figuring out whether to treat Uber like a traditional taxi service or
>> something else is the subject of heated debate across the country. Taxi
>> services are required by federal law to serve the disabled, even if drivers
>> are independent contractors.
>> 
>> Gail Sullivan covers business for the Morning Mix blog.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From wickps at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 17:26:52 2014
From: wickps at gmail.com (Paul Wick)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:26:52 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Performance Test
In-Reply-To: <00cb01cfd408$dfb59540$9f20bfc0$@gmail.com>
References: <00cb01cfd408$dfb59540$9f20bfc0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639496FB-47C3-4796-B3D5-F10D89BDF5D8@gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Marociz,
I have addressed to you by your last name as I don't know which name you go by :-) 

When I took the California bar performance tests in 2012 the performance test was in Microsoft Word format and as word files you can add whatever reminders or bookmarks internally to the file.

Asked for extra time I would highly recommend taking the performance test in exactly the format in which you will have it on the bar exam if you'll have six hours or whatever it is on test day you should take six hours in the performance test it doesn't do you any good to speed up your writing faster than you'll have on test day. The performance test is in some ways the most robotic part of the bar exam and it's easy points so don't rush through it.
All the best,
Paul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:54 AM, Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello List
> 
> 
> 
> I am a Jaws user and I plan to take the California Bar this summer.  
> 
> 
> 
> I am taking a class designed to simulate the performance test.  Can anyone
> share with me what I can expect?  Here I am talking about nuts and bolts,
> not the content of the test.  How will the exam be formatted?  What software
> will they allow me to use to read it?  Will they allow me to manipulate it
> in any way?
> 
> 
> 
> For our first practice exam, it was one long pdf file.  I opened it up in
> QRead <file:///C:\Program%20Files%20(x86)\QRead\readme.html#qread>  and
> placed bookmarks between each of the authorities so I could move between
> them easily.  I doubt I will be allowed to do that for the actual exam.  
> 
> 
> 
> I have a second but related question.  I understand for the actual bar exam,
> I will probably be granted extra time.  Because this is a class where we
> will likely be doing one practice performance test each class session,
> taking the extra time is somewhat impractical.  Should I be trying to do
> them in the regular time now to improve my speed with reading and writing?
> To this point, every other exam I have taken I have been granted double
> time.  Alternatively, should I look to take the extra time now to better
> simulate how it will be on the bar?  
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your insight.  
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
> 
> 
> 
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Sat Sep 20 02:16:22 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 22:16:22 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Performance Test
In-Reply-To: <639496FB-47C3-4796-B3D5-F10D89BDF5D8@gmail.com>
References: <00cb01cfd408$dfb59540$9f20bfc0$@gmail.com>
	<639496FB-47C3-4796-B3D5-F10D89BDF5D8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a501cfd478$e02cf340$a086d9c0$@gmail.com>

I also got it in Word format. For me, that was the most difficult part of
the test to do under time pressure with JAWS. But we only got 3 hours to do
it in my state. I would suggest taking it under real test conditions at
least two or three times before the day of. And yes, use bookmarks like
crazy.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick
via blindlaw
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Stephen Alexander Marositz; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bar Performance Test

Dear Mr. Marociz,
I have addressed to you by your last name as I don't know which name you go
by :-) 

When I took the California bar performance tests in 2012 the performance
test was in Microsoft Word format and as word files you can add whatever
reminders or bookmarks internally to the file.

Asked for extra time I would highly recommend taking the performance test in
exactly the format in which you will have it on the bar exam if you'll have
six hours or whatever it is on test day you should take six hours in the
performance test it doesn't do you any good to speed up your writing faster
than you'll have on test day. The performance test is in some ways the most
robotic part of the bar exam and it's easy points so don't rush through it.
All the best,
Paul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:54 AM, Stephen Alexander Marositz via blindlaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello List
> 
> 
> 
> I am a Jaws user and I plan to take the California Bar this summer.  
> 
> 
> 
> I am taking a class designed to simulate the performance test.  Can anyone
> share with me what I can expect?  Here I am talking about nuts and bolts,
> not the content of the test.  How will the exam be formatted?  What
software
> will they allow me to use to read it?  Will they allow me to manipulate it
> in any way?
> 
> 
> 
> For our first practice exam, it was one long pdf file.  I opened it up in
> QRead <file:///C:\Program%20Files%20(x86)\QRead\readme.html#qread>  and
> placed bookmarks between each of the authorities so I could move between
> them easily.  I doubt I will be allowed to do that for the actual exam.  
> 
> 
> 
> I have a second but related question.  I understand for the actual bar
exam,
> I will probably be granted extra time.  Because this is a class where we
> will likely be doing one practice performance test each class session,
> taking the extra time is somewhat impractical.  Should I be trying to do
> them in the regular time now to improve my speed with reading and writing?
> To this point, every other exam I have taken I have been granted double
> time.  Alternatively, should I look to take the extra time now to better
> simulate how it will be on the bar?  
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your insight.  
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen Alexander Marositz
> 
> 
> 
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From wmodnl at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 19:38:27 2014
From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 15:38:27 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind
	and putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post,
	September 10 2014
In-Reply-To: <5B338CDD-6615-48AB-9C74-88B6E66B1B2B@gmail.com>
References: <41370810CEBD1C4DA64C9361CE162341E6A9495560@EDUPTCEXMB01.ed.gov>
	<04F1893C93758F4AA7CB436BB26750660118C2BB683E@EDUPTCEXMB02.ed.gov>
	<02cc01cfcedc$b6dbaa50$2492fef0$@timeldermusic.com>
	<BLU402-EAS368EB5CFD4A1C8B190196ADCB40@phx.gbl>
	<5B338CDD-6615-48AB-9C74-88B6E66B1B2B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU402-EAS257B648AF15B4F2DD45C1B1DCB50@phx.gbl>

Assuming for a moment that, everything discussed in the alleged suit is fully correct, how does one properly teas-out differences in training of drivers? EG:
Drivers in Boston/New York, appearing to have training from upper management to deal with people with disabilities.  Have a good weekend.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:13 AM, "Kirt" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> William,
> I think it's appropriate to remember that you live in America's biggest city. The very nature of uber means that the teams in each city have quite a bit of autonomy. That being the case, it isn't hard for me to see how your experience and the claims alleged in the suit are not mutually exclusive.
> Best,
> Kirt
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:34 PM, wmodnl wmodnl via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I have had nothing but positive experiences with Uber, even though,  all drivers are independent contracters, etc.
>> For example, I was traveling with another individual. We informed them that one of us had a guide dog. The driver contacted us, telling us that they were sorry that they had a small car, one that would not probably accommodate us. Rashod, the driver came to us, and waited until a SUV came that could accommodate us. We later found out that, he gave our driver something for going out of their way. We were not charged. Uber also gave us another $30 off our next ride due to the "disruption" that was not really a disruption.
>> I think that, this is one of those cases ware, one bad apple has ruined it for others.
>> Another time, I contacted my driver before getting me. I told them that, I had a lot of items and was blind. I received great customer service; and, that, the driver asked me why I did not have my dog, as if they were expecting it. They informed me that, they receive special training to properly service and handle people with disabilities regardless of the fact that they are independent contractors.  They understand and agree, prior to picking-up passengers that, as drivers of the service, they will encounter various individuals including those with various conditions. As a result, they must treat them as they would want to be treated.  Some mock examples are shown through live and taped demonstrations.
>> For example, they go through a situation ware someone has a small medical problem. Additionally, they discuss briefly how people with varying conditions travel in communities, including discussing various tools and devices that maybe used. They suggest that, if they are picking-up these individuals that, the driver should offer to exet the vehicle and open the door at their destination.  The suit, and/or possible discrimination claims are crap! Hope this helps some of you. Have a good evening.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 6:57 PM, "Tim Elder via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our legal team is currently collecting additional stories of passengers with
>>> service animals who experienced discrimination by Uber drivers.  We are
>>> documenting incidents both in and out of California.  Don't hesitate to
>>> contact me if you would like to report an incident or share your experiences
>>> with Uber and a service animal.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Tim Elder
>>> www.Trelegal.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nightingale, Noel [mailto:Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:59 PM
>>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and
>>> putting a dog in the trunk, The Washington Post, September 10 2014
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Link:
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/10/uber-sued-for-a
>>> llegedly-refusing-rides-to-the-blind-and-putting-a-dog-in-the-trunk/
>>> 
>>> Text:
>>> Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the
>>> trunk By Gail Sullivan September 10
>>> 
>>> An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service
>>> Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service
>>> dogs.
>>> 
>>> The federal civil rights suit filed Tuesday by the California chapter of the
>>> National Federation of the Blind cites instances in California and elsewhere
>>> when blind Uber customers summoned a car only to be refused a ride once the
>>> driver saw them with a service dog. In some cases, drivers allegedly
>>> abandoned blind travelers in extreme weather and charged cancellation fees
>>> after denying them rides, the complaint said.
>>> 
>>> The complaint filed in a Northern California District Court cites one
>>> instance where a California UberX driver put a service dog in the trunk and
>>> refused to pull over when the blind passenger realized where the animal was.
>>> 
>>> On another occasion a passenger was trying to explain that his dog was not a
>>> pet but a service animal when the driver allegedly cursed at him and
>>> accelerated abruptly, nearly injuring the dog and striking the passenger's
>>> friend, who is also blind, with an open car door.
>>> 
>>> The group said it's aware of more than 30 times blind customers were denied
>>> rides in violation of the American with Disabilities Act and California
>>> state law.
>>> 
>>> As a result, blind passengers are confronting unexpected delays and "face
>>> the degrading experience of being denied a basic service that is available
>>> to all other paying customers," the complaint said.
>>> 
>>> Services such as Uber are quickly supplanting traditional taxis, a service
>>> blind people rely on due to the limitations of public transportation.
>>> 
>>> The National Federation of the Blind wants Uber to educate its drivers about
>>> disability rights and punish the violators in addition to providing a way
>>> for disabled passengers to immediately register complaints when they are
>>> refused rides because of service dogs.
>>> 
>>> In a statement reported by the San Francisco Examiner, Uber said its policy
>>> is to terminate drivers who refuse to transport service animals. "The Uber
>>> app is built to expand access to transportation options for all, including
>>> users with visual impairments and other disabilities," the statement said.
>>> 
>>> However, Uber allegedly told some passengers it can't control what drivers
>>> do because they are independent contractors. The company advised them to let
>>> drivers know about their animals ahead of time, said the Federation, which
>>> filed suit after Uber rejected its request to negotiate a solution.
>>> 
>>> The group claims the company closely monitors and controls its drivers by
>>> managing payments and services through the app, and by assessing driver
>>> performance based on customer feedback.
>>> 
>>> In September 2013,California's Public Utilities Commission classified UberX
>>> as a transportation provider because it functions like a taxi dispatch. The
>>> commission also said that UberX may not discriminate against the disabled,
>>> the Federation noted.
>>> 
>>> Figuring out whether to treat Uber like a traditional taxi service or
>>> something else is the subject of heated debate across the country. Taxi
>>> services are required by federal law to serve the disabled, even if drivers
>>> are independent contractors.
>>> 
>>> Gail Sullivan covers business for the Morning Mix blog.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From grossman at mail.sfsu.edu  Mon Sep 22 23:01:36 2014
From: grossman at mail.sfsu.edu (Marc Grossman)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:01:36 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings
Message-ID: <9a898e4ea69e40c3bb8fc15900e085e0@BN1PR02MB182.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi,
I am a paralegal student studying pleadings. I have tried searching for templates in MS Word 2010 for creating pleadings. It looks like it may have been cut out since MS Word 2003.

Does anybody have any suggestions for creating pleadings with  MS Word 2010?

Thanks

From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 01:27:22 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:27:22 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings
In-Reply-To: <9a898e4ea69e40c3bb8fc15900e085e0@BN1PR02MB182.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <9a898e4ea69e40c3bb8fc15900e085e0@BN1PR02MB182.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <004401cfd6cd$86ea8570$94bf9050$@gmail.com>

Hi Mark,

Have you not been given any instructions on how to draft pleadings in the
form your professors want? The templates I usually use for things like that
are just pleadings or motions or whatever from previous cases. I've never
heard of a specific word template for that kind of thing. Probably because
there is no national standard for what a pleading needs to be format-wise.

Sy

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Grossman via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:02 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings

Hi,
I am a paralegal student studying pleadings. I have tried searching for
templates in MS Word 2010 for creating pleadings. It looks like it may have
been cut out since MS Word 2003.

Does anybody have any suggestions for creating pleadings with  MS Word 2010?

Thanks
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Sep 26 19:20:20 2014
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:20:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 27 05:35:42 2014
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (Charles Krugman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 22:35:42 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings
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	<004401cfd6cd$86ea8570$94bf9050$@gmail.com>
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The template that Mark was referring to is the template that creates 
pleading paper format with the numbered lines in the margin. it is not a 
template for a specific pleading.
Chuck

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sy Hoekstra via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:27 PM
To: 'Marc Grossman' ; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pleadings

Hi Mark,

Have you not been given any instructions on how to draft pleadings in the
form your professors want? The templates I usually use for things like that
are just pleadings or motions or whatever from previous cases. I've never
heard of a specific word template for that kind of thing. Probably because
there is no national standard for what a pleading needs to be format-wise.

Sy

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc
Grossman via blindlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:02 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings

Hi,
I am a paralegal student studying pleadings. I have tried searching for
templates in MS Word 2010 for creating pleadings. It looks like it may have
been cut out since MS Word 2003.

Does anybody have any suggestions for creating pleadings with  MS Word 2010?

Thanks
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Sat Sep 27 12:33:14 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:33:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings
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yes, he let me know. i sent him microsofts online instructions for that. they have good, accessible online instructions for pretty much anything you want to do using the office products that can be easily googled. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:35, Charles Krugman via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The template that Mark was referring to is the template that creates pleading paper format with the numbered lines in the margin. it is not a template for a specific pleading.
> Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Sy Hoekstra via blindlaw
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:27 PM
> To: 'Marc Grossman' ; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pleadings
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Have you not been given any instructions on how to draft pleadings in the
> form your professors want? The templates I usually use for things like that
> are just pleadings or motions or whatever from previous cases. I've never
> heard of a specific word template for that kind of thing. Probably because
> there is no national standard for what a pleading needs to be format-wise.
> 
> Sy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc
> Grossman via blindlaw
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:02 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Pleadings
> 
> Hi,
> I am a paralegal student studying pleadings. I have tried searching for
> templates in MS Word 2010 for creating pleadings. It looks like it may have
> been cut out since MS Word 2003.
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions for creating pleadings with  MS Word 2010?
> 
> Thanks
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From philosopher25 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 04:24:33 2014
From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (Sexton, bruce)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 20:24:33 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability. 

-Bruce 
-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain versions
of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If you have the
conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can determine, the versions
of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know which versions do?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:

>Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built into MS
Word. 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>On Behalf Of David Andrews
>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

>If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do 
>no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the 
>PDF, or the
PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical character
recognition, OCR.

>Dave

>At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
>>documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
>>it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
>>image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
>>printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and 
>>wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to 
>>work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire 
>>document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except 
>>when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and 
>>pasted.

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From laura.wolk at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 05:19:57 2014
From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:19:57 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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hi,

you might try this service, which is free:
http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille

I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of
jaws and k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used
it, it has turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted
them to word. it at least beats printing and rescanning the whole
thing.

HTH,
Laura


On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>
> -Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain
> versions
> of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If you have the
> conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can determine, the versions
> of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know which versions do?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>
>>Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built into
>> MS
> Word.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>>If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do
>>no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the
>>PDF, or the
> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical character
> recognition, OCR.
>
>>Dave
>
>>At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes,
>>>documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that
>>>it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an
>>>image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of
>>>printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming and
>>>wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any way to
>>>work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting the entire
>>>document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This works except
>>>when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot be copied and
>>>pasted.
>
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>> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 07:19:55 2014
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:49:55 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Citations
Message-ID: <C2FD73CC-0DC7-4B45-89A9-1BE68C8000AD@gmail.com>

Hi all, 

I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult, but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc. Even though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation techniques. 
This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain very few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine, this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper. 
I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with this issue. 

Best, 
Rahul 

Sent from my iPhone

From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Sun Sep 28 12:37:49 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:37:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Citations
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References: <C2FD73CC-0DC7-4B45-89A9-1BE68C8000AD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68602535-D6C7-4F5C-9447-3FC3219D2CCF@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws part more manageable is to create a second word document with the footnotes but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put then in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted perfectly after you've written the paper. 

As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe are JAWS friendly and also searchable. 

But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice. 

Best
Derek Manners

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult, but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc. Even though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation techniques. 
> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain very few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine, this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper. 
> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with this issue. 
> 
> Best, 
> Rahul 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 14:39:04 2014
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:39:04 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] Citations
In-Reply-To: <68602535-D6C7-4F5C-9447-3FC3219D2CCF@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
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Hi Rahul,

Jaws can be unresponsive with footnotes, especially in big documents.
However, this shouldn't be normal. Perhaps there is a problem with
JAWS?

Ger

On 9/28/14, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws
> part more manageable is to create a second word document with the footnotes
> but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put then
> in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted
> perfectly after you've written the paper.
>
> As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe are
> JAWS friendly and also searchable.
>
> But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice.
>
> Best
> Derek Manners
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite
>> sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult,
>> but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc. Even
>> though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue
>> book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation
>> techniques.
>> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very
>> sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify
>> footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
>> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain very
>> few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine,
>> this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper.
>> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with
>> this issue.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From laura.wolk at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 15:22:00 2014
From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:22:00 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Citations
In-Reply-To: <CAGZitzJNnp6at3GiZWVuA5x_RaXYmgW8XX5f55ipuCWT+O6MDQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<68602535-D6C7-4F5C-9447-3FC3219D2CCF@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
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Message-ID: <CAHG6wD5UH7h8ncYsChB66mZna8Q6XCMbMU15BxKHT2qKC8yOcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rahul and all,

I, too, have had the issue with horrible unresponsiveness in
footnotes. it is maddening. i have uninstalled/reinstalled both word
and jaws with no luck. however, rahul, I have found the problem is
much worse with msword 2013 than it is with 2010 so, when doing
editing/writing papers, i use 2010 instead.

as for your BB questions: do you use the online edition? it is very
helpful, but not perfect, as all of the font  changes are not
detectable with jaws. Do you have a research librarian? for me, I have
found that the best way for me to internalize the formatting is to
talk it out and write it out in a way that makes sense to me. this was
extremely helpful. I would be happy to talk through some of the more
common sources with you but, really, you should try to find  a
resource at your school that you can talk through these things with as
they come up. I am lucky in that, iwth law review, you do things over
and over and over again in a short period of time and so the
internalization process is quick, but I remember last year being so
frustrated that I had gone over something in legal research and then
couldn't remember it months later. If you're in that position, i think
creating a file for yourself with your own notes will be very helpful.

in the short term, have you considered employing a reader? Perhaps you
could at least discern from the bb what elements need to be a part of
your citation, create simply textual citations with no italics,
smallcaps, etc, and then go to your reader with the bb and have them
tell you how the bb formats the different sources.

Anyway, just throwing out some ideas. hopefully some of it is helpful.

Laura

On 9/28/14, Gerard Sadlier via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Jaws can be unresponsive with footnotes, especially in big documents.
> However, this shouldn't be normal. Perhaps there is a problem with
> JAWS?
>
> Ger
>
> On 9/28/14, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws
>> part more manageable is to create a second word document with the
>> footnotes
>> but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put
>> then
>> in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted
>> perfectly after you've written the paper.
>>
>> As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe
>> are
>> JAWS friendly and also searchable.
>>
>> But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice.
>>
>> Best
>> Derek Manners
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite
>>> sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult,
>>> but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc.
>>> Even
>>> though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue
>>> book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation
>>> techniques.
>>> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very
>>> sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify
>>> footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
>>> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain
>>> very
>>> few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine,
>>> this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper.
>>> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Sun Sep 28 16:55:52 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:55:52 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Citations
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I'd also be willing to go over any citation you need help with so you can make a cheat sheet. I'm an executive article editor on the harvard  human rights journal and have learned most the blue book and I use zoom text so can look up any that you may need that I'm not familiar with. 

Best
Derek Manners

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Laura Wolk via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul and all,
> 
> I, too, have had the issue with horrible unresponsiveness in
> footnotes. it is maddening. i have uninstalled/reinstalled both word
> and jaws with no luck. however, rahul, I have found the problem is
> much worse with msword 2013 than it is with 2010 so, when doing
> editing/writing papers, i use 2010 instead.
> 
> as for your BB questions: do you use the online edition? it is very
> helpful, but not perfect, as all of the font  changes are not
> detectable with jaws. Do you have a research librarian? for me, I have
> found that the best way for me to internalize the formatting is to
> talk it out and write it out in a way that makes sense to me. this was
> extremely helpful. I would be happy to talk through some of the more
> common sources with you but, really, you should try to find  a
> resource at your school that you can talk through these things with as
> they come up. I am lucky in that, iwth law review, you do things over
> and over and over again in a short period of time and so the
> internalization process is quick, but I remember last year being so
> frustrated that I had gone over something in legal research and then
> couldn't remember it months later. If you're in that position, i think
> creating a file for yourself with your own notes will be very helpful.
> 
> in the short term, have you considered employing a reader? Perhaps you
> could at least discern from the bb what elements need to be a part of
> your citation, create simply textual citations with no italics,
> smallcaps, etc, and then go to your reader with the bb and have them
> tell you how the bb formats the different sources.
> 
> Anyway, just throwing out some ideas. hopefully some of it is helpful.
> 
> Laura
> 
>> On 9/28/14, Gerard Sadlier via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Rahul,
>> 
>> Jaws can be unresponsive with footnotes, especially in big documents.
>> However, this shouldn't be normal. Perhaps there is a problem with
>> JAWS?
>> 
>> Ger
>> 
>>> On 9/28/14, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws
>>> part more manageable is to create a second word document with the
>>> footnotes
>>> but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put
>>> then
>>> in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted
>>> perfectly after you've written the paper.
>>> 
>>> As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe
>>> are
>>> JAWS friendly and also searchable.
>>> 
>>> But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Derek Manners
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite
>>>> sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult,
>>>> but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc.
>>>> Even
>>>> though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue
>>>> book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation
>>>> techniques.
>>>> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very
>>>> sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify
>>>> footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
>>>> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain
>>>> very
>>>> few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine,
>>>> this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper.
>>>> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with
>>>> this issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Sun Sep 28 21:19:03 2014
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:19:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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What is k1,000?

Sincerely,

Shannon Geihsler
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via blindlaw
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 AM
To: Sexton, bruce; Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's

hi,

you might try this service, which is free:
http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille

I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws and
k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has
turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word. it
at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.

HTH,
Laura


On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>
> -Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain 
> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If 
> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can 
> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know 
> which versions do?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>
>>Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built 
>>into  MS
> Word.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>>If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do 
>>no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the 
>>PDF, or the
> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical 
> character recognition, OCR.
>
>>Dave
>
>>At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
>>>documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
>>>it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
>>>image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
>>>printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
>>>and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
>>>way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
>>>the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
>>>works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
>>>be copied and pasted.
>
>>                         David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me 
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>> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 00:02:15 2014
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:02:15 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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kurzweil 1000. its software that does really good ocr. it also costs about 1000 dollars.

sy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 17:19, Shannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What is k1,000?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Shannon Geihsler
> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> 1001 Main Street, Suite 803
> Lubbock, Texas 79423
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> -----Original Message-----
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> via blindlaw
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 AM
> To: Sexton, bruce; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
> 
> hi,
> 
> you might try this service, which is free:
> http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille
> 
> I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws and
> k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has
> turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word. it
> at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.
> 
> HTH,
> Laura
> 
> 
>> On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>> 
>> -Bruce
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
>> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>> 
>> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>> 
>> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain 
>> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If 
>> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can 
>> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know 
>> which versions do?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built 
>>> into  MS
>> Word.
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>> 
>>> If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do 
>>> no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the 
>>> PDF, or the
>> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical 
>> character recognition, OCR.
>> 
>>> Dave
>> 
>>> At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
>>>> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
>>>> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
>>>> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
>>>> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
>>>> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
>>>> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
>>>> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
>>>> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
>>>> be copied and pasted.
>> 
>>>                        David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me 
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Mon Sep 29 01:35:41 2014
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 01:35:41 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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I have had very good luck with omnipage.




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hi,

you might try this service, which is free:
http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille

I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws and k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word. it at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.

HTH,
Laura


On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>
> -Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain 
> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If 
> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can 
> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know 
> which versions do?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>
>>Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built 
>>into  MS
> Word.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>
>>If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do 
>>no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the 
>>PDF, or the
> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical 
> character recognition, OCR.
>
>>Dave
>
>>At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
>>>documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
>>>it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
>>>image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
>>>printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
>>>and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
>>>way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
>>>the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
>>>works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
>>>be copied and pasted.
>
>>                         David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me 
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From wickps at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 02:51:37 2014
From: wickps at gmail.com (Paul Wick)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:51:37 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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All,
If you happen to have full Adobe acrobat, and not just Adobe Acrobat reader, you can have it search for all possible OCR objects and change the recognition resolution level as well; I have used it to fix many a badly scanned PDF.

Best,
Paul Wick
Berkeley, Calif.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> kurzweil 1000. its software that does really good ocr. it also costs about 1000 dollars.
> 
> sy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 17:19, Shannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> What is k1,000?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Shannon Geihsler
>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
>> 1001 Main Street, Suite 803
>> Lubbock, Texas 79423
>> Phone: (806) 763-3999
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>> please contact the sender and delete all copies.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
>> via blindlaw
>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 AM
>> To: Sexton, bruce; Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> you might try this service, which is free:
>> http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille
>> 
>> I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws and
>> k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has
>> turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word. it
>> at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>>> 
>>> -Bruce
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
>>> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>> 
>>> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>> 
>>> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain 
>>> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If 
>>> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can 
>>> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know 
>>> which versions do?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built 
>>>> into  MS
>>> Word.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>> 
>>>> If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do 
>>>> no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the 
>>>> PDF, or the
>>> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical 
>>> character recognition, OCR.
>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes, 
>>>>> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that 
>>>>> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an 
>>>>> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of 
>>>>> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming 
>>>>> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any 
>>>>> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting 
>>>>> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This 
>>>>> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot 
>>>>> be copied and pasted.
>>> 
>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me 
>>>> on
>>>> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>> 
>>> 
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From malhotraarjun2012 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 15:09:57 2014
From: malhotraarjun2012 at gmail.com (Arjun Malhotra)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 20:39:57 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
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Nuance PDF Pro or Nuance Power PDF are pretty  good softwares for OCR
and creating PDF needs.

On 9/29/14, Paul Wick via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> All,
> If you happen to have full Adobe acrobat, and not just Adobe Acrobat reader,
> you can have it search for all possible OCR objects and change the
> recognition resolution level as well; I have used it to fix many a badly
> scanned PDF.
>
> Best,
> Paul Wick
> Berkeley, Calif.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via blindlaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> kurzweil 1000. its software that does really good ocr. it also costs about
>> 1000 dollars.
>>
>> sy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 17:19, Shannon via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is k1,000?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Shannon Geihsler
>>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
>>> 1001 Main Street, Suite 803
>>> Lubbock, Texas 79423
>>> Phone: (806) 763-3999
>>> Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
>>> Fax:  (806) 749-3752
>>> E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
>>>
>>> This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or
>>> attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
>>> review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express
>>> permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
>>> recipient,
>>> please contact the sender and delete all copies.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura
>>> Wolk
>>> via blindlaw
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 AM
>>> To: Sexton, bruce; Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> you might try this service, which is free:
>>> http://www.robobraille.org/introduction-robobraille
>>>
>>> I have only used it once or twice, as i have the newest version of jaws
>>> and
>>> k1000. But, on the two or three occasions where I have used it, it has
>>> turned untagged pdfs into readable jaws files or converted them to word.
>>> it
>>> at least beats printing and rescanning the whole thing.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9/28/14, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> If you get JAWS 16, it  has OCR capability.
>>>>
>>>> -Bruce
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC)
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 7:16 AM
>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>>>
>>>> I'm still using 2003. The conversion is under Microsoft office tools.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:27 AM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember the details, but the conversion is only in certain
>>>> versions of word as I understand it so won't work in all cases.  If
>>>> you have the conversion engine, you are right.  As far as I can
>>>> determine, the versions of Word I have do not have it.  Do you know
>>>> which versions do?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:41:50 -0500, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David. You're right, but you can use the conversion engine built
>>>>> into  MS
>>>> Word.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] reading scanned PDF's
>>>>
>>>>> If the PDF does contain a scanned document, pasting into Word will do
>>>>> no good, because it is an image of a page.  OCR must be done on the
>>>>> PDF, or the
>>>> PDF would have to be printed to paper then run through optical
>>>> character recognition, OCR.
>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> At 11:23 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has come across my problem. Sometimes,
>>>>>> documents are scanned into a PDF. When they are open, JAWS says that
>>>>>> it's an empty document because, to JAWS, the scanned document is an
>>>>>> image and therefore is treated as if it doesn't exist. Short of
>>>>>> printing out the entire document (which can be very time-consuming
>>>>>> and wasteful of paper if the document is rather long), is there any
>>>>>> way to work around this problem? I thought of copying  and pasting
>>>>>> the entire document into a Word document so JAWS can read it. This
>>>>>> works except when the PDF has been made secure and therefore cannot
>>>>>> be copied and pasted.
>>>>
>>>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me
>>>>> on
>>>>> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>>
>>>>
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