[blindlaw] Citations

[Laura Wolk]

Hi Rahul and all,

I, too, have had the issue with horrible unresponsiveness in
footnotes. it is maddening. i have uninstalled/reinstalled both word
and jaws with no luck. however, rahul, I have found the problem is
much worse with msword 2013 than it is with 2010 so, when doing
editing/writing papers, i use 2010 instead.

as for your BB questions: do you use the online edition? it is very
helpful, but not perfect, as all of the font  changes are not
detectable with jaws. Do you have a research librarian? for me, I have
found that the best way for me to internalize the formatting is to
talk it out and write it out in a way that makes sense to me. this was
extremely helpful. I would be happy to talk through some of the more
common sources with you but, really, you should try to find  a
resource at your school that you can talk through these things with as
they come up. I am lucky in that, iwth law review, you do things over
and over and over again in a short period of time and so the
internalization process is quick, but I remember last year being so
frustrated that I had gone over something in legal research and then
couldn't remember it months later. If you're in that position, i think
creating a file for yourself with your own notes will be very helpful.

in the short term, have you considered employing a reader? Perhaps you
could at least discern from the bb what elements need to be a part of
your citation, create simply textual citations with no italics,
smallcaps, etc, and then go to your reader with the bb and have them
tell you how the bb formats the different sources.

Anyway, just throwing out some ideas. hopefully some of it is helpful.

Laura

On 9/28/14, Gerard Sadlier via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Jaws can be unresponsive with footnotes, especially in big documents.
> However, this shouldn't be normal. Perhaps there is a problem with
> JAWS?
>
> Ger
>
> On 9/28/14, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws
>> part more manageable is to create a second word document with the
>> footnotes
>> but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put
>> then
>> in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted
>> perfectly after you've written the paper.
>>
>> As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe
>> are
>> JAWS friendly and also searchable.
>>
>> But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice.
>>
>> Best
>> Derek Manners
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite
>>> sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult,
>>> but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc.
>>> Even
>>> though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue
>>> book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation
>>> techniques.
>>> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very
>>> sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify
>>> footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
>>> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain
>>> very
>>> few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine,
>>> this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper.
>>> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Laura Wolk
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