[blindlaw] Question about relativity-software used to review documents

Wed Dec 2 18:50:10 UTC 2015

Can't you open a VR case based on the need for retention services? I am no
VR expert, but this should put you in a higher priority group.

Tai

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We have tried, without success.  Arizona is particularly crunched, and has
reduced funds available to the counties, who in turn have made public
defense a very low priority.  Additionally, my voc rehab case is closed, and
because I am not in a priority group (which is to day, I am employed and not
near retirement), the best I can hope for is a lengthy time on a waiting
list.  Trust me, we have tried. 

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Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Question about relativity-software used to review
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Native accessibility should always be priority.  However, sometimes it is
not enough and r/a are required in the interim, including scripts.  I'd be
surprised if you your agency couldn't afford it if you consider the larger
pool of resources available in the county budget.  Often counties set aside
a small ADA fund and refuse to go outside that fund to pay for r/a.  That is
not a correct application of the law.  Virtual Vision Technologies is a JAWS
scripts vendor.  Further, your state rehab agency ought to pay for the
scripting if the employer truly cannot.

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Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Question about relativity-software used to review
documents

Out of curiosity, who would write these scripts?  When our agency (county
public defender) insisted on buying an inaccessible file management program,
my supervisor and I were assured that the company would work with us
post-rollout to make it accessible.  We never heard another word from them
on that, nor has the upper management of our office made a move to make the
program accessible, likely because of the expense in both money and time
that we simply do not have.  I personally have neither the time to do it
myself nor the money to pay someone else to do it, so the work-around has
been to require my assistant to load anything that I might need from this
program (which serves as the official file for a case) into a Word or OCR-d
PDF document.  As a further matter, she must do all of the date entry in the
program notes section.  Needless to say, it is a frustrating and inefficient
way to work.

All things considered, if a program is not inherently accessible, shouldn't
we as a group pressure / persuade a change at the creation level?

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FWIW, even if the software is natively inaccessible, the possibility of
writing custom JAWS scripts to make it accessible exists.  

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From: Derek Manners [mailto:dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Question about relativity-software used to review
documents

I've used relativity and while I was not using a screen reader at the time,
my hunch is that it might not be accessible. If someone doesn't let you know
soon with more direct knowledge, I can also access it and attempt to use
jaws with it and let you know the results. 

Best regards
Derek Manners

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> On Dec 1, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via blindlaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi friends:
> 
> Have someone used the platform/program mentioned on the subject?
> 
> If so, is it accessible with any screen reader?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
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