From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Apr 1 21:59:14 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 21:59:14 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: INVESTIGATION and RESOLUTION SPECIALIST Message-ID: From: washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com [mailto:washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Conrad Reynoldson Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 2:45 PM To: WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com Subject: [WADA] Fwd: INVESTIGATION and RESOLUTION SPECIALIST The University of Washington has an opening for an experienced employment attorney to join the University Complaint Investigation and Resolution Office (“UCIRO”), a program within the Compliance and Risk Services Department, as an Investigation and Resolution Specialist. Could you please circulate the attached job posting within the Washington Attorneys with Disabilities Association? 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Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com From chris.stewart at uky.edu Mon Apr 4 13:04:52 2016 From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:04:52 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review Message-ID: While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent graduate > lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc review are > inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are being screened > out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 From TTomasi at driowa.org Mon Apr 4 13:33:19 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 13:33:19 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA02681B14@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Chris, I am very interested in such an effort. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:05 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent > graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc > review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are > being screened out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:45:47 2016 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:45:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA02681B14@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA02681B14@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: So am I. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > Chris, > > I am very interested in such an effort. > > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:05 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Stewart, Christopher K > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review > > While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. > > My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. > There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. > If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. > > > Best, > Chris > > > > >> On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 >> From: Marcos Rodrigues >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Good morning: >> >> Has someone recently done document review? >> >> Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent >> graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc >> review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are >> being screened out of this lawyering skill. >> >> Any input on this? >> >> Regards. >> Marcos Rodrigues >> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 >> **************************************** > > > -- > Chris K. Stewart > University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 > Ph: > (502)457-1757 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com From carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 14:23:28 2016 From: carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com (Kathryn Carroll) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:23:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 Second to Doc Review Message-ID: I am also very interested in this question. More than a few of my friends who graduate law school with me are making their livings doing document review. I am afraid to apply for these jobs because I am sure there is going to be a lengthy discussion about how to make the job accessible. On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM, wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 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From wickps at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 17:05:43 2016 From: wickps at gmail.com (Paul Wick) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:05:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA02681B14@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: Chris and all, Doc review is essentially the developed world version of Indian/Bangladeshi computer click work farms. If 100 sighted attorneys can easily be found to sit in a basement and click away at no cost to the employer why would it make any economic sense for them to spend any time making their software accessible to facilitate the hiring of one or two blind attorneys? It doesn't. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw wrote: > > So am I. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Chris, >> >> I am very interested in such an effort. >> >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:05 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Stewart, Christopher K >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review >> >> While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. >> >> My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. >> There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. >> If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. >> >> >> Best, >> Chris >> >> >> >> >>> On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 >>> From: Marcos Rodrigues >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Good morning: >>> >>> Has someone recently done document review? >>> >>> Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent >>> graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc >>> review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are >>> being screened out of this lawyering skill. >>> >>> Any input on this? >>> >>> Regards. >>> Marcos Rodrigues >>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 >>> **************************************** >> >> >> -- >> Chris K. Stewart >> University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 >> Ph: >> (502)457-1757 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wickps%40gmail.com From JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM Mon Apr 4 17:09:23 2016 From: JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM (Loevy, Joshua L. (LG)) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:09:23 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA02681B14@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB66D5C6@LG0022.lathropgage.com> This is untrue. I am part of a litigation practice at a large firm where doc review is done in-house. The fact that doc review software is inaccessible directly harms my ability to meet my billable hour targets. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 12:06 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Paul Wick Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review Chris and all, Doc review is essentially the developed world version of Indian/Bangladeshi computer click work farms. If 100 sighted attorneys can easily be found to sit in a basement and click away at no cost to the employer why would it make any economic sense for them to spend any time making their software accessible to facilitate the hiring of one or two blind attorneys? It doesn't. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw wrote: > > So am I. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Chris, >> >> I am very interested in such an effort. >> >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:05 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Stewart, Christopher K >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review >> >> While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. >> >> My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. >> There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. >> If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. >> >> >> Best, >> Chris >> >> >> >> >>> On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=Gl5njhOop1HJ21szIyxxy5aOke2F_y7_wwuY4ZqsU7A&s=jYyrhdIKl_CHnNi0HeVRTHtq6tUR-owO_q8mSHAi1wE&e= >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 >>> From: Marcos Rodrigues >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Good morning: >>> >>> Has someone recently done document review? >>> >>> Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent >>> graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc >>> review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are >>> being screened out of this lawyering skill. >>> >>> Any input on this? >>> >>> Regards. >>> Marcos Rodrigues >>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=Gl5njhOop1HJ21szIyxxy5aOke2F_y7_wwuY4ZqsU7A&s=jYyrhdIKl_CHnNi0HeVRTHtq6tUR-owO_q8mSHAi1wE&e= >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 >>> **************************************** >> >> >> -- >> Chris K. Stewart >> University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. 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Many associates do doc review work and make excellent money at it. The fact that we as blind attorneys are barred from doing this work due to inaccessible software is a significant concern. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 12:09 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review This is untrue. I am part of a litigation practice at a large firm where doc review is done in-house. The fact that doc review software is inaccessible directly harms my ability to meet my billable hour targets. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 12:06 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Paul Wick Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review Chris and all, Doc review is essentially the developed world version of Indian/Bangladeshi computer click work farms. If 100 sighted attorneys can easily be found to sit in a basement and click away at no cost to the employer why would it make any economic sense for them to spend any time making their software accessible to facilitate the hiring of one or two blind attorneys? It doesn't. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw wrote: > > So am I. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Chris, >> >> I am very interested in such an effort. >> >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. 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I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. >> >> My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. >> There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. >> If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. >> >> >> Best, >> Chris >> >> >> >> >>> On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailm >>> an_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11 >>> VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m >>> =Gl5njhOop1HJ21szIyxxy5aOke2F_y7_wwuY4ZqsU7A&s=jYyrhdIKl_CHnNi0HeVRT >>> Htq6tUR-owO_q8mSHAi1wE&e= or, via email, send a message with subject >>> or body 'help' to >>> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 >>> From: Marcos Rodrigues >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Good morning: >>> >>> Has someone recently done document review? >>> >>> Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent >>> graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do >>> doc review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind >>> lawyers, are being screened out of this lawyering skill. >>> >>> Any input on this? >>> >>> Regards. >>> Marcos Rodrigues >>> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailm >>> an_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11 >>> VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m >>> =Gl5njhOop1HJ21szIyxxy5aOke2F_y7_wwuY4ZqsU7A&s=jYyrhdIKl_CHnNi0HeVRT >>> Htq6tUR-owO_q8mSHAi1wE&e= >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 >>> **************************************** >> >> >> -- >> Chris K. 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Although the amount paid for document review isn't that bad, it certainly isn't that good. The only firm I sought employment with would not hire me for absolute lack of accessibility to a blind attorney. And Texas is so deluged with newly licensed attorneys, they are having no problem filling their document review vacancies with sighted attorneys. Dan McBride, Fort Worth From TTomasi at driowa.org Mon Apr 4 20:53:19 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 20:53:19 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: <00cb01d18eb1$9a729090$cf57b1b0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <00cb01d18eb1$9a729090$cf57b1b0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026890C9@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Some associates do a combination of document review and other types of work and make very good money. Given the difficulties blind lawyers face in getting hired, many would prefer to make $60,000 than remain on Social Security benefits. Regardless of salary differentials, I believe blind attorneys should have access to these jobs just as sighted attorneys, whether or not you or I would choose document review. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:36 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Daniel McBride Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review Dear Group: I cannot speak for your geographic areas, but in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, attorneys, sighted or blind, engaged in document review are making an average of about $60,000, while the firm's associate attorneys are making triple figure salaries. Although the amount paid for document review isn't that bad, it certainly isn't that good. The only firm I sought employment with would not hire me for absolute lack of accessibility to a blind attorney. And Texas is so deluged with newly licensed attorneys, they are having no problem filling their document review vacancies with sighted attorneys. Dan McBride, Fort Worth _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 4 20:59:52 2016 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:59:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026890C9@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> References: <00cb01d18eb1$9a729090$cf57b1b0$@sbcglobal.net> <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026890C9@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: <00de01d18eb4$ef731850$ce5948f0$@sbcglobal.net> Tai: You'll get no argument out of me. I would be glad to obtain employment at $60,000 annually. Dan McBride, Fort Worth -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review Some associates do a combination of document review and other types of work and make very good money. Given the difficulties blind lawyers face in getting hired, many would prefer to make $60,000 than remain on Social Security benefits. Regardless of salary differentials, I believe blind attorneys should have access to these jobs just as sighted attorneys, whether or not you or I would choose document review. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:36 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Daniel McBride Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review Dear Group: I cannot speak for your geographic areas, but in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, attorneys, sighted or blind, engaged in document review are making an average of about $60,000, while the firm's associate attorneys are making triple figure salaries. Although the amount paid for document review isn't that bad, it certainly isn't that good. The only firm I sought employment with would not hire me for absolute lack of accessibility to a blind attorney. And Texas is so deluged with newly licensed attorneys, they are having no problem filling their document review vacancies with sighted attorneys. Dan McBride, Fort Worth _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 21:07:01 2016 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:07:01 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026890C9@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> References: <00cb01d18eb1$9a729090$cf57b1b0$@sbcglobal.net> <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026890C9@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: On Monday, April 4, 2016, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > Some associates do a combination of document review and other types of > work and make very good money. Given the difficulties blind lawyers face in > getting hired, many would prefer to make $60,000 than remain on Social > Security benefits. Regardless of salary differentials, I believe blind > attorneys should have access to these jobs just as sighted attorneys, > whether or not you or I would choose document review. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Staff Attorney > > > Agreed some associates work includes supervising discovery reviews Making these platforms accessible is really important I raised this issue on the list before and I'd support any campaign on this issue G > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. 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Although the amount paid for document review isn't > that bad, it certainly isn't that good. The only firm I sought employment > with would not hire me for absolute lack of accessibility to a blind > attorney. And Texas is so deluged with newly licensed attorneys, they are > having no problem filling their document review vacancies with sighted > attorneys. > > Dan McBride, Fort Worth > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Apr 4 21:31:19 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:31:19 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think the campaign about accessibility of case management products should be taken on by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. This discussion is a good starting point. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:05 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent graduate > lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc review are > inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are being screened > out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM Mon Apr 4 21:34:59 2016 From: JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM (Loevy, Joshua L. (LG)) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:34:59 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB66DC22@LG0022.lathropgage.com> I am happy to help however I can. I know my firm has been in contact with Relativity, who handles our doc review software; not sure if they have approached our DMS provider. I think getting some of their big clients to lean on them, along with a strong public advocacy effort by NABAA has the best chance of bringing about change. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:31 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nightingale, Noel; Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review I think the campaign about accessibility of case management products should be taken on by the National Association of Blind Lawyers. This discussion is a good starting point. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:05 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=5-dRzP0TC2RaxDWVxioJtE0HARvgY9nVgdxqctKrFgI&e= > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent graduate > lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc review are > inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are being screened > out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=5-dRzP0TC2RaxDWVxioJtE0HARvgY9nVgdxqctKrFgI&e= > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=5-dRzP0TC2RaxDWVxioJtE0HARvgY9nVgdxqctKrFgI&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_noel.nightingale-2540ed.gov&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=xUZXaEJcrV7k1amX9IneVGYb5E2Obxpi_Yd_yHjdbDw&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=5-dRzP0TC2RaxDWVxioJtE0HARvgY9nVgdxqctKrFgI&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=OkfmwCa5anyg6mqCh6m4pAac5DM7qLSnDOc-5Ytc-io&s=ouYR9vSeifNV5GWMP3E4Z_a7NfhHg1AwWVVGoFrWgVQ&e= From rene0373 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 15:33:45 2016 From: rene0373 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:33:45 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review Message-ID: I think that the need to secure the accessibility of office management/document review software is critical for all of us. It affects us whether we practice in the public sector, in law firms, or in solo offices. I would like very much to be involved in the effort to address this issue. Elizabeth M René Attorney at Law WSBA #10710 KCBA #21824 rene0373 at gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Apr 5 15:38:35 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 15:38:35 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies Update In-Reply-To: <17021668.60@public.govdelivery.com> References: <17021668.60@public.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: This one sounds interesting.... From: U.S. Department of Justice [mailto:usdoj at public.govdelivery.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 9:18 PM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Attorney Vacancies Update [Image removed by sender. U.S. Department of Justice] You are subscribed to Attorney Vacancies for U.S. Department of Justice. 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Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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GP Solo has done an excellent job of selecting a variety of individuals from the "traditional" minority groups, but we have not had many lawyers with disabilities apply. I strongly encourage you to apply if this is appropriate for you. Please let me know if you are applying. Even if this program is not appropriate for you, please forward this announcement far and wide. Best, Scott -----Original Message----- From: Division 1: Administration [mailto:GP-DIVISION1 at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG] On Behalf Of David Levesque Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:06 AM To: GP-DIVISION1 at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: FW: Help Support the Diversity Fellowship Program - Applications due April 29 Division 1 Leaders: Please share this informational with your Board/Committee members and encourage them to help spread the word about this leadership opportunity. 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From rfarber at jw.com Wed Apr 6 20:33:28 2016 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:33:28 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406202101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406202101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31F2EE3645B8CB43A190156AB388DF137DC3F77C@pdc-exch02.jwllp.com> Kelby - Yes it can be done. It is a question of knowing where on the ribbon everything is located. I haven't done it in quite a while, but if we schedule a time where we can work ober the telephone, I can help you locate the ribbon choices. Randy -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:21 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word All, I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 20:43:07 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 16:43:07 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word Message-ID: <20160406204307.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I did just realize that if you are in a header/footer a "design" ribbon shows up, where you can control some of this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Farber, Randy via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > Kelby - Yes it can be done. It is a question of knowing where on the ribbon everything is located. I haven't done it in quite a while, but if we schedule a time where we can work ober the telephone, I can help you locate the ribbon choices. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:21 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > All, > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From TTomasi at driowa.org Wed Apr 6 20:47:55 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:47:55 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406202101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406202101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2EE36683-41DE-4579-8D26-8CB76EA5EEE2@driowa.org> I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Staff Attorney Disability Rights Iowa Email: ttomasi at driowa.org Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From rfarber at jw.com Wed Apr 6 20:49:10 2016 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:49:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406204307.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406204307.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31F2EE3645B8CB43A190156AB388DF137DC3F95C@pdc-exch02.jwllp.com> Correct. If you can't find the page number there is a selection for field or document field that I believe contains the page number. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:43 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word I did just realize that if you are in a header/footer a "design" ribbon shows up, where you can control some of this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Farber, Randy via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > Kelby - Yes it can be done. It is a question of knowing where on the ribbon everything is located. I haven't done it in quite a while, but if we schedule a time where we can work ober the telephone, I can help you locate the ribbon choices. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:21 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > All, > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 20:51:16 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 16:51:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word Message-ID: <20160406205116.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > > Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > Staff Attorney > Disability Rights Iowa > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > All, > > > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Wed Apr 6 20:52:47 2016 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:52:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406204307.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406204307.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: My suggestion is that you use sighted assistance, and if you really want to get good at word, get some intensive formal training. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:43 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word I did just realize that if you are in a header/footer a "design" ribbon shows up, where you can control some of this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Farber, Randy via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > Kelby - Yes it can be done. It is a question of knowing where on the ribbon everything is located. I haven't done it in quite a while, but if we schedule a time where we can work ober the telephone, I can help you locate the ribbon choices. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:21 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > All, > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Wed Apr 6 20:53:50 2016 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:53:50 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406205116.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406205116.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > > Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > Staff Attorney > Disability Rights Iowa > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > All, > > > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 21:00:29 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:00:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word Message-ID: <20160406210029.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> True; but since this assignment is heavily graded on formatting I have to at least do some of it. And, this particular class has forced me to become much better at Word than I used to be. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI�� 48307 > Phone:�� (248) 841-9405 > Fax:�� (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.�� If you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.�� Should you receive this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > > > > > I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > > > > Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > > Staff Attorney > > Disability Rights Iowa > > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > BlLaw mailing list > > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould..com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 21:03:49 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:03:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word Message-ID: <20160406210349.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> One thing I will not be able to do myself is create a Table of Authorities, unless there is something I don't know about. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI�� 48307 > Phone:�� (248) 841-9405 > Fax:�� (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.�� If you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.�� Should you receive this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > > > > > I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > > > > Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > > Staff Attorney > > Disability Rights Iowa > > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > BlLaw mailing list > > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould..com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Wed Apr 6 21:07:16 2016 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 21:07:16 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406210349.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406210349.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Anything is possible if you work hard enough at it. But you are going to need extensive, one-on-one hands-on training. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:04 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word One thing I will not be able to do myself is create a Table of Authorities, unless there is something I don't know about. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI? 48307 > Phone:? (248) 841-9405 > Fax:? (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email > messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is > legally privileged.? If you are not the intended recipient or the > individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to this email is strictly prohibited.? Should you receive > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby > Carlson via BlLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > > > > > I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > > > > Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > > Staff Attorney > > Disability Rights Iowa > > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > BlLaw mailing list > > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40dr > > > iowa.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%4 > > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wienner > gould..com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g > mail.com From taiablas at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 21:20:33 2016 From: taiablas at gmail.com (Tai Blas) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 16:20:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: References: <20160406210349.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dan, Who would you recommend to provide such extensive training? Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Apr 6, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote: > > Anything is possible if you work hard enough at it. But you are going to need extensive, one-on-one hands-on training. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:04 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word > > One thing I will not be able to do myself is create a Table of Authorities, unless there is something I don't know about. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > >> >> >> When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. >> >> >> >> >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI? 48307 >> Phone:? (248) 841-9405 >> Fax:? (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> >> www.wiennergould.com >> >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >> legally privileged.? If you are not the intended recipient or the >> individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or >> distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to this email is strictly prohibited.? Should you receive >> this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby >> Carlson via BlLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Kelby Carlson >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word >> >> I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word >> >>> >>> >>> I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. >>> Staff Attorney >>> Disability Rights Iowa >>> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40dr >>>> iowa.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%4 >>> 0gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wienner >> gould..com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g >> mail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/taiablas%40gmail.com From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 21:23:02 2016 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 17:23:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406210029.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406210029.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C74E99C-1135-42D9-B368-BE4286D4ED4E@gmail.com> I dont think extensive training is needed to figure out how to use Word. Just good googling skills. Yes, you can do roman and arabic numerals. If you type a capital letter in word at the beginning of a line, then a period, then the space bar, that line of text becomes an outline-style heading. Then put your curser at the beginning of that line. You will notice the capital roman or arabic numeral you typed is no longer a part of the line of text jaws will read if you go character by character, though the numeral will still be read if you go line by line. Press the left arrow key once, which will highlight the roman/arabic numeral, hit applications, and type the letter u. Hit enter, and youre in the adjust list indents menu. You can easily check and control the indentation of your roman/arabic numerals and the text that comes after them from there. you can do all your point headings this way. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 17:00, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > True; but since this assignment is heavily graded on formatting I have to at least do some of it. And, this particular class has forced me to become much better at Word than I used to be. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > >> >> >> When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. >> >> >> >> >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> >> www.wiennergould.com >> >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning >> us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Kelby Carlson >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word >> >> I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word >> >>> >>> >>> I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. >>> Staff Attorney >>> Disability Rights Iowa >>> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould..com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 02:18:50 2016 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 22:18:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word In-Reply-To: <20160406212705.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160406212705.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <057d01d1913c$ff91de30$feb59a90$@gmail.com> Ah...my fault. I did not know how to do that, but again, Google to the rescue. Microsoft has good, step-by-step instructions on how to do nearly anything in the office sweet that you can find by typing simple questions into Google. I got the following link by searching "creating roman and Arabic numeral page numbers on the same word doc." Here are the instructions. I haven't tried this because I'm pretty busy, but if it works, this is a cool trick that will be helpful in future brief writing. Good Question. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/326536 -----Original Message----- From: Kelby Carlson [mailto:kelbycarlson at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:27 PM To: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Style Questions in Word This is helpful; I actually did this accidentally a few days ago. What I meant to ask was whether you can make certain sections of a document have regular page numbering and other sections have Roman numeral page numbering. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sybren Hoekstra To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:23 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > I dont think extensive training is needed to figure out how to use Word. Just good googling skills. > > Yes, you can do roman and arabic numerals. If you type a capital letter in word at the beginning of a line, then a period, then the space bar, that line of text becomes an outline-style heading. Then put your curser at the beginning of that line. You will notice the capital roman or arabic numeral you typed is no longer a part of the line of text jaws will read if you go character by character, though the numeral will still be read if you go line by line. Press the left arrow key once, which will highlight the roman/arabic numeral, hit applications, and type the letter us. Hit enter, and youre in the adjust list indents menu. You can easily check and control the indentation of your roman/arabic numerals and the text that comes after them from there. you can do all your point headings this way. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 17:00, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > > > True; but since this assignment is heavily graded on formatting I have to at least do some of it. And, this particular class has forced me to become much better at Word than I used to be. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dan Beitz via BlLaw > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:55 pm > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > > > >> > >> > >> When you are working, you will still need to use sighted assistance to proof your formatting. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Daniel K. Beitz > >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. > >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > >> Rochester, MI 48307 > >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 > >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 > >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com > >> > >> www.wiennergould.com > >> > >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > >> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are > >> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > >> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > >> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > >> this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, > >> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > >> us at (248) 841-9400. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlLaw > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:51 PM > >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > >> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > >> > >> I plan to have it checked before I turn it in. But it will be important that I can do most of it on my own when I'm working. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw > >> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:49 pm > >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Style Questions in Word > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> I understand wanting to do this independently, but I found that it was ultimately easier to do this with sighted assistance to confirm that my commands worked properly. > >>> > >>> Tai Tomasi, JddD., M.P.A. > >>> Staff Attorney > >>> Disability Rights Iowa > >>> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.. > >>> > >>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > >>>> > >>>> All, > >>>> > >>>> I'm writing an appellate brief for a class. Formatting requirements are very specific, and I'm trying to do as much of it myself as is possible. I'm wondering how to do a couple of things. First, how do you manage page numbers in Word generally? I can't find much about how to do this, or how to adjust header and footers with JAWS. Second, is there a way to have roman numeral numbers in the first section of a document with Arabic numerals in the second? If so, how do you do this with JAWS? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> BlLaw mailing list > >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.c om > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. .com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.c om > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m From awildheir at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 17:35:56 2016 From: awildheir at gmail.com (Aimee Harwood) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:35:56 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] K1000 v. Openbook Message-ID: <4D787754-0E10-4D83-9084-8AF5A6EFA80F@gmail.com> Hello everyone. I have been out of the PC world for quite a while. I have to choose between K1000 and Openbook. Can you guys share some pros and cons in reference to using them for law school and then on to using them as a practicing attorney? Apparently. Any and all comments are very much appreciated. Aimee Sent from my iPhone From daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 17:48:45 2016 From: daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com (Daniel Smyth) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:48:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books Message-ID: Greetings All, Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, -- *Daniel E. Smyth* J.D. Candidate, 2017 St. John's University School of Law Secretary | Student Bar Association (917) 692-1978 From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 17:59:30 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:59:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you have access to any legal databases? They usually don't provide a PDF of the entire treatise, but you may be able to read it that way. On 4/8/16, Daniel Smyth via BlindLaw wrote: > Greetings All, > > Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going > to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business > immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration > Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said > it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration > Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. > > Anyone have any thoughts? > > Best, > -- > *Daniel E. Smyth* > J.D. Candidate, 2017 > St. John's University School of Law > Secretary | Student Bar Association > (917) 692-1978 > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From lmendez716 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 18:53:06 2016 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (luis Mendez) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:53:06 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] K1000 v. Openbook In-Reply-To: <4D787754-0E10-4D83-9084-8AF5A6EFA80F@gmail.com> References: <4D787754-0E10-4D83-9084-8AF5A6EFA80F@gmail.com> Message-ID: You may also want to look at UmniPage. I used it heavily in my public sector practice. It is a very powerful and versatile program. It's main strengths are the ability to export documents to a variety of formats, as well as retaining the original format. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello everyone. I have been out of the PC world for quite a while. I have to choose between K1000 and Openbook. Can you guys share some pros and cons in reference to using them for law school and then on to using them as a practicing attorney? Apparently. Any and all comments are very much appreciated. > > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From TTomasi at driowa.org Fri Apr 8 18:55:04 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:55:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9B0@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> I think you're on the right track. AILA provides a resource called AILALINK located at http://ailalink.aila.org/login.html which provides full text electronic access to this and other treatises it publishes. I would check with them to see if they will grant you access. Also, I believe Josh Loevy is on this list and worked in immigration law. You may want to speak with him. Best, Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Smyth via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:49 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Daniel Smyth Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books Greetings All, Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, -- *Daniel E. Smyth* J.D. Candidate, 2017 St. John's University School of Law Secretary | Student Bar Association (917) 692-1978 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From TTomasi at driowa.org Fri Apr 8 18:56:09 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:56:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] K1000 v. Openbook In-Reply-To: References: <4D787754-0E10-4D83-9084-8AF5A6EFA80F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9CE@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> I use ABYY FineReader which is similarly feature-rich and offers extremely accurate OCR. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: luis Mendez Subject: Re: [blindlaw] K1000 v. Openbook You may also want to look at UmniPage. I used it heavily in my public sector practice. It is a very powerful and versatile program. It's main strengths are the ability to export documents to a variety of formats, as well as retaining the original format. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello everyone. I have been out of the PC world for quite a while. I have to choose between K1000 and Openbook. Can you guys share some pros and cons in reference to using them for law school and then on to using them as a practicing attorney? Apparently. Any and all comments are very much appreciated. > > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM Fri Apr 8 19:02:27 2016 From: JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM (Loevy, Joshua L. (LG)) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 19:02:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books In-Reply-To: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9B0@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9B0@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> Message-ID: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB670E16@LG0022.lathropgage.com> I did indeed work in immigration in my clinic at Iowa. I used westlaw exclusively for any practice tips I was looking for, so I can't speak to getting specific access to a treatis. I was able to have the library at my current form send me treatis segments upon request, but obviously that wouldn't help you much as a quick reference guide. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Books I think you're on the right track. AILA provides a resource called AILALINK located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ailalink.aila.org_login.html&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=eZf4YfIz4QLqQfXiL1-s7z8QxNzhkP9ozBO3KUfYFC4&e= which provides full text electronic access to this and other treatises it publishes. I would check with them to see if they will grant you access. Also, I believe Josh Loevy is on this list and worked in immigration law. You may want to speak with him. Best, Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Smyth via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:49 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Daniel Smyth Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books Greetings All, Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, -- *Daniel E. Smyth* J.D. Candidate, 2017 St. John's University School of Law Secretary | Student Bar Association (917) 692-1978 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=i0LIEEzUdcqmkUb8Wv_edNERBohNJr4Fvn3_-szxMAo&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_ttomasi-2540driowa.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=zrMaaYpDkeNDc6gQF1WeeYzmc-3Q7Ht4qTy7j_Jgw_A&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=i0LIEEzUdcqmkUb8Wv_edNERBohNJr4Fvn3_-szxMAo&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=53GMAq8ie_FuJ8iLzV2vHZeUXSDzNle9UJQukDOW1JI&e= From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Apr 8 19:06:39 2016 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 19:06:39 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books In-Reply-To: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB670E16@LG0022.lathropgage.com> References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9B0@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB670E16@LG0022.lathropgage.com> Message-ID: One thing you can do is scan in the contents for the treatis, and then you will be able to simply have someone pull and 10 the section you need to scan. Then you can scan it as you need it. It is a bit cumbersome, but it really works pretty well if you don't have the treatis on Westlaw available. An immigration firm might have the treatis on Westlaw however. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 3:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Books I did indeed work in immigration in my clinic at Iowa. I used westlaw exclusively for any practice tips I was looking for, so I can't speak to getting specific access to a treatis. I was able to have the library at my current form send me treatis segments upon request, but obviously that wouldn't help you much as a quick reference guide. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Books I think you're on the right track. AILA provides a resource called AILALINK located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ailalink.aila.org_login.html&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=eZf4YfIz4QLqQfXiL1-s7z8QxNzhkP9ozBO3KUfYFC4&e= which provides full text electronic access to this and other treatises it publishes. I would check with them to see if they will grant you access. Also, I believe Josh Loevy is on this list and worked in immigration law. You may want to speak with him. Best, Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Smyth via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:49 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Daniel Smyth Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books Greetings All, Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, -- *Daniel E. Smyth* J.D. Candidate, 2017 St. John's University School of Law Secretary | Student Bar Association (917) 692-1978 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=i0LIEEzUdcqmkUb8Wv_edNERBohNJr4Fvn3_-szxMAo&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_ttomasi-2540driowa.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=zrMaaYpDkeNDc6gQF1WeeYzmc-3Q7Ht4qTy7j_Jgw_A&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=i0LIEEzUdcqmkUb8Wv_edNERBohNJr4Fvn3_-szxMAo&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=53GMAq8ie_FuJ8iLzV2vHZeUXSDzNle9UJQukDOW1JI&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 19:32:54 2016 From: daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com (Daniel Smyth) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:32:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books In-Reply-To: References: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269A9B0@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB670E16@LG0022.lathropgage.com> Message-ID: <15ADA689-F26B-4766-BB40-FAA16ED5C5F3@gmail.com> Hi All, Thank you for all the useful information. AILAlink might just do the trick. Again, thank you all! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote: > > One thing you can do is scan in the contents for the treatis, and then you will be able to simply have someone pull and 10 the section you need to scan. Then you can scan it as you need it. It is a bit cumbersome, but it really works pretty well if you don't have the treatis on Westlaw available. An immigration firm might have the treatis on Westlaw however. > > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 3:02 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Books > > I did indeed work in immigration in my clinic at Iowa. > I used westlaw exclusively for any practice tips I was looking for, so I can't speak to getting specific access to a treatis. I was able to have the library at my current form send me treatis segments upon request, but obviously that wouldn't help you much as a quick reference guide. > > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:55 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Books > > I think you're on the right track. AILA provides a resource called AILALINK located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ailalink.aila.org_login.html&d=CwIFAw&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=UawaB3O0Pz-iMaOekD0Gwpd6cURh60ZW_NEYMDsuAOk&s=eZf4YfIz4QLqQfXiL1-s7z8QxNzhkP9ozBO3KUfYFC4&e= which provides full text electronic access to this and other treatises it publishes. I would check with them to see if they will grant you access. Also, I believe Josh Loevy is on this list and worked in immigration law. You may want to speak with him. > > Best, > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Smyth via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:49 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Daniel Smyth > Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Books > > Greetings All, > > Has anyone had any success getting accessible PDFs of treatises? I'm going to be a summer associate at a large firm whose main focus is business immigration. I would like to get a copy of the Kurzban's Immigration Sourcebook before I get started there (An alum of the summer program said it is very helpful). I reached out to the folks at American Immigration Lawyers Association about getting a PDF and haven't heard back. > > Anyone have any thoughts? > > Best, > -- > *Daniel E. Smyth* > J.D. 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This becomes even more valid with law firm staff being cross-trained and expected to assume many duties that might be in an initial job description. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 6:04 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent graduate > lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc review are > inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are being screened > out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Mon Apr 11 15:11:02 2016 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:11:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008701d19404$5d31f470$1795dd50$@mediacombb.net> Sorry if this goes to the entire list. I take it you are a paralegal. I am seriously considering matriculating back in to school to get the training necessary to perform this type of work. I'm curious as to what obstacles you have encountered and how you have worked around them. I know that is a pretty broad statement of curiosity. So any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks. Loren Wakefield -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Krugman via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:41 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Charles Krugman Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review As a paralegal that is generally delegated to take on many of these management tasks I find that this is a very valid issue. This becomes even more valid with law firm staff being cross-trained and expected to assume many duties that might be in an initial job description. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 6:04 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Document Review While I haven't done doc review, I imagine that what you say is correct, and the platforms are very likely inaccessible. This is part of the larger issue that also includes accessible firm management software. I'm not sure what the solution is, however, other than blind lawyers starting a coordinated campaign to contact the various firm management companies. My issue with firm management software is that it is essentially a file management system with a calendar and billing mechanism built in. There is no reason why these products cannot be designed accessibly. If anyone is interested in arranging some sort of campaign to raise awareness, please let me know. Best, Chris On 4/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Review (Marcos Rodrigues) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:05:34 -0400 > From: Marcos Rodrigues > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good morning: > > Has someone recently done document review? > > Doing document review seems bo be a growing field among recent > graduate lawyers and from what I heard, most softwares used to do doc > review are inaccessible with screen readers and we, blind lawyers, are > being screened out of this lawyering skill. > > Any input on this? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 143, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb .net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4545/12012 - Release Date: 04/11/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4545/12012 - Release Date: 04/11/16 From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 03:14:44 2016 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 23:14:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law Message-ID: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> All, Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. Thanks, Cody J. Davis From TTomasi at driowa.org Tue Apr 12 12:00:11 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:00:11 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24F65D88-EE1D-45D1-BB1A-9245F9F303D1@driowa.org> I am fairly certain that Chris Stewart has experience in this area. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Staff Attorney Disability Rights Iowa Email: ttomasi at driowa.org Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, > > Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. > > Thanks, > Cody J. Davis > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Tue Apr 12 12:47:27 2016 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 08:47:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: <24F65D88-EE1D-45D1-BB1A-9245F9F303D1@driowa.org> References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> <24F65D88-EE1D-45D1-BB1A-9245F9F303D1@driowa.org> Message-ID: Chris Stewart is a great resource. I'm also going to be practicing political/ election law at my firm starting in September. Feel free to message me off list. Best regards Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > I am fairly certain that Chris Stewart has experience in this area. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Staff Attorney > Disability Rights Iowa > Email: ttomasi at driowa.org > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > >> On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> All, >> >> Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> Cody J. Davis >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From kavino at McCarter.com Tue Apr 12 12:56:35 2016 From: kavino at McCarter.com (Avino, Kristy) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:56:35 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> Message-ID: If transferring schools becomes impractical or otherwise not an option, perhaps you could arrange to take election law classes for credit at the other school or obtain visiting student status. You might also see if you can take an election law class this summer, whether at the neighboring school or at another institution by distance learning, to test your interest. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 11:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law All, Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. Thanks, Cody J. Davis _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From rthomas48 at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 13:38:33 2016 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:38:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question Message-ID: <570CFA59.8090605@gmail.com> I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to use. From TTomasi at driowa.org Tue Apr 12 13:47:55 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:47:55 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question In-Reply-To: <570CFA59.8090605@gmail.com> References: <570CFA59.8090605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269D23D@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> As Chris Stewart recently suggested here on list, I recommend copying and pasting out of the online bluebook into a word document to make yourself a "cheat sheet" of most commonly used citation formats. When I tried copying and pasting from the online version, formatting was preserved. You can then use screen reader commands to see the formats of the text. I am interested in putting together a guidance document on bluebook use for blind law students, including tips and best practices for answering questions like these. If anyone is interested in assisting me, please contact me. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 AM To: blind law Cc: Roderick Thomas Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to use. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From TTomasi at driowa.org Tue Apr 12 13:50:24 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:50:24 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA0269D254@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> I like Kristy's approach. Like many others, my school does not have any courses or campus groups related to disability law, the area in which I sought to practice. I was able to take a disability law course via video conference with Ruth Colker, a prominent disability law scholar teaching at the Ohio State University. I highly recommend this, especially if you like your school in all other regards. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Avino, Kristy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:57 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Avino, Kristy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Elections law If transferring schools becomes impractical or otherwise not an option, perhaps you could arrange to take election law classes for credit at the other school or obtain visiting student status. You might also see if you can take an election law class this summer, whether at the neighboring school or at another institution by distance learning, to test your interest. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 11:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law All, Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. Thanks, Cody J. Davis _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From chris.stewart at uky.edu Tue Apr 12 14:08:05 2016 From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:08:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> <24F65D88-EE1D-45D1-BB1A-9245F9F303D1@driowa.org> Message-ID: Hi Cody, I definitely have some great resources for you. My school has an election law society, election law class, election law semenar, Etc. I've taken them all and am the president of the election law society. Message me off list, and we'll chat. On 4/12/16, Derek Manners wrote: > Chris Stewart is a great resource. I'm also going to be practicing > political/ election law at my firm starting in September. > > Feel free to message me off list. > > Best regards > Derek Manners > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I am fairly certain that Chris Stewart has experience in this area. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Staff Attorney >> Disability Rights Iowa >> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or >>> knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and >>> election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, >>> but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty >>> courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, >>> more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some >>> reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s >>> truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested >>> coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Cody J. 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Candidate, 2016 Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 14:18:13 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:18:13 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question Message-ID: <20160412141813.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I was able to get PDF scans of the Bluebook, but they've proved only of limited use. I've found the Legal Bluebook site generally works. What are your specific issues? ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick Thomas via BlLaw To: blind law Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:39 am Subject: [bllaw] bluebook question > > > I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I > would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have > tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to > use. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 14:19:16 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:19:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question Message-ID: <20160412141916.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I'd be up for helping with that. (Really, there should be a comprehensive guide not only for bluebooking, but for other things about formatting and legal writing. I've had to figure out most of it independently). ----- Original Message ----- From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:55 am Subject: Re: [bllaw] bluebook question > > > As Chris Stewart recently suggested here on list, I recommend copying and pasting out of the online bluebook into a word document to make yourself a "cheat sheet" of most commonly used citation formats. When I tried copying and pasting from the online version, formatting was preserved. You can then use screen reader commands to see the formats of the text. > > I am interested in putting together a guidance document on bluebook use for blind law students, including tips and best practices for answering questions like these. If anyone is interested in assisting me, please contact me. > > > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:�� To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipientggness). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick Thomas via BlLaw > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 AM > To: blind law > Cc: Roderick Thomas > Subject: [bllaw] bluebook question > > I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to use. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 14:38:46 2016 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 10:38:46 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question In-Reply-To: <20160412141916.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160412141916.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <70BFD781-46AA-47B4-B37C-00B0ABB13339@gmail.com> Agreed. Good opportunity to share some collective knowledge. I could help, though. Honestly, i never got that great at bluebooking. Never joined a journal. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 10:19, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > I'd be up for helping with that. (Really, there should be a comprehensive guide not only for bluebooking, but for other things about formatting and legal writing. I've had to figure out most of it independently). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:55 am > Subject: Re: [bllaw] bluebook question > >> >> >> As Chris Stewart recently suggested here on list, I recommend copying and pasting out of the online bluebook into a word document to make yourself a "cheat sheet" of most commonly used citation formats. When I tried copying and pasting from the online version, formatting was preserved. You can then use screen reader commands to see the formats of the text. >> >> I am interested in putting together a guidance document on bluebook use for blind law students, including tips and best practices for answering questions like these. If anyone is interested in assisting me, please contact me. >> >> >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipientggness). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick Thomas via BlLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 AM >> To: blind law >> Cc: Roderick Thomas >> Subject: [bllaw] bluebook question >> >> I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to use. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From rthomas48 at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 16:56:11 2016 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:56:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question In-Reply-To: <20160412141813.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160412141813.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <570D28AB.9030905@gmail.com> I understand the basic concepts of bluebooking, but I cannot visually see good enough to navigate on the on-line bluebook website. On 4/12/2016 10:18 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > I was able to get PDF scans of the Bluebook, but they've proved only of limited use. I've found the Legal Bluebook site generally works. What are your specific issues? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roderick Thomas via BlLaw > To: blind law > Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:39 am > Subject: [bllaw] bluebook question > >> >> I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I >> would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have >> tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to >> use. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas48%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 17:21:36 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] bluebook question Message-ID: <20160412172136.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Do you have a scren reader you can use? It's reasonably navigable with JAWS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick Thomas via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:57 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] bluebook question > > > I understand the basic concepts of bluebooking, but I cannot visually > see good enough to navigate on the on-line bluebook website. > > On 4/12/2016 10:18 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlLaw wrote: > > I was able to get PDF scans of the Bluebook, but they've proved only of limited use. I've found the Legal Bluebook site generally works. What are your specific issues? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Roderick Thomas via BlLaw > > To: blind law > > Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:39 am > > Subject: [bllaw] bluebook question > > > >> > >> I am a first year law student and I am completing my second semester. I > >> would like to know how to use the bluebook if you are blind. I have > >> tried to use the on-line version of the bluebook, but I find it hard to > >> use. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rthomas48%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From kavino at McCarter.com Tue Apr 12 17:24:51 2016 From: kavino at McCarter.com (Avino, Kristy) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:24:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! Message-ID: Hi all, I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. All the best, Kristy Kristy L. Avino | Associate McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 T: 617-449-6577 F: 617-607-9135 kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 17:31:01 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:31:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! Message-ID: <20160412173101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> A couple of things: It's very possible your firm may be able to provide you with JAWS. If they can't, some rehab organizations for the blind will, as well as services like the Lions Club. I'd explore those options if you can. As far as reading paper documents, you will probably want a scanner. You'll need an OCR program to convert the documents to text. This is something else your employer might have to provide under the ADEA. However, if you have a Smartphone I would also suggest getting the KNFB Reader App. It essentially turns your phone into a portable scanner that will read documents to you. It works wonderfully and can also save converted documents for later use. The app is about $85, but that is far less than what most programs like this cost. It is also useful for being able to review documents in situations where you don't have a main scanner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Avino, Kristy via BlLaw To: his'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:26 pm Subject: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > > > Hi all, > > I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! > > I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. > > All the best, > Kristy > > > Kristy L. Avino | Associate > McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP > > 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 > T: 617-449-6577 > F: 617-607-9135 > kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com > > BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK > EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC > > > > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From kavino at McCarter.com Tue Apr 12 17:37:47 2016 From: kavino at McCarter.com (Avino, Kristy) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:37:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: <20160412173101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160412173101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Kelby. My firm has provided me with JAWS, but I have not found it easy to learn how to use it on my own so I'm investigating training. Sounds like I definitely need KNFB reader app. Are there any scanner programs that will read handwriting, or at the very least alert me that there is handwriting on a paper or scanned document? That is a huge concern on mine when doing document review. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:31 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! A couple of things: It's very possible your firm may be able to provide you with JAWS. If they can't, some rehab organizations for the blind will, as well as services like the Lions Club. I'd explore those options if you can. As far as reading paper documents, you will probably want a scanner. You'll need an OCR program to convert the documents to text. This is something else your employer might have to provide under the ADEA. However, if you have a Smartphone I would also suggest getting the KNFB Reader App. It essentially turns your phone into a portable scanner that will read documents to you. It works wonderfully and can also save converted documents for later use. The app is about $85, but that is far less than what most programs like this cost. It is also useful for being able to review documents in situations where you don't have a main scanner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Avino, Kristy via BlLaw To: his'Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:26 pm Subject: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > > > Hi all, > > I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! > > I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. > > All the best, > Kristy > > > Kristy L. Avino | Associate > McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP > > 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 > T: 617-449-6577 > F: 617-607-9135 > kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com > > BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK > EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC > > > > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Wed Apr 13 00:02:01 2016 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:02:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d19517$b4da8020$1e8f8060$@mediacombb.net> Though I believe it is on the expensive side, Freedom Scientific should have a training bundle you can purchase to help you with Jaws. They also have a bundle for voiceover for IOS if you are needing that as well. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Avino, Kristy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:25 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Avino, Kristy Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! Hi all, I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. All the best, Kristy Kristy L. Avino | Associate McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 T: 617-449-6577 F: 617-607-9135 kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb .net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4545/12020 - Release Date: 04/12/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4545/12020 - Release Date: 04/12/16 From timothy.blanchett at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 01:17:45 2016 From: timothy.blanchett at gmail.com (Timothy Blanchett) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:17:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can download the Jaws training files and that will get you trained on jaws. As far as reading paper files and books if you have some site a CC TV would be best or if you need speach I would say a scanner with curswiler will work for most anythimg typed. Hope this helps Timothy Blanchett (423) 441-0982 timothy.blanchett at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Avino, Kristy via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi all, > > I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! > > I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. > > All the best, > Kristy > > > Kristy L. Avino | Associate > McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP > > 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 > T: 617-449-6577 > F: 617-607-9135 > kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com > > BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK > EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC > > > > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timothy.blanchett%40gmail.com From awebb2168 at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 02:50:58 2016 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:50:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019e01d1952f$4fe19380$efa4ba80$@com> As for JAWS training, depending on your personal tastes and what works for you, you might also consider just hiring on a blind tech-savvy high school or college kid to spend a few hours orienting you to JAWS, or for that matter the various other programs that have been mentioned. In Boston, especially with Perkin in your backyard, you shouldn't have much trouble locating some good candidates who would be happy for that work and charge a nominal rate for it. Good luck. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Blanchett via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:18 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Timothy Blanchett Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! You can download the Jaws training files and that will get you trained on jaws. As far as reading paper files and books if you have some site a CC TV would be best or if you need speach I would say a scanner with curswiler will work for most anythimg typed. Hope this helps Timothy Blanchett (423) 441-0982 timothy.blanchett at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Avino, Kristy via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi all, > > I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! > > I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. > > All the best, > Kristy > > > Kristy L. Avino | Associate > McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP > > 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 > T: 617-449-6577 > F: 617-607-9135 > kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com > > BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK > EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC > > > > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timothy.blanchett%40gm ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 04:02:22 2016 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:02:22 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: References: <20160412173101.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: hi Kristy, I don't know of any OCR programs that can reliably deal with handwriting. While I can independently access PDFs of decent copies of documents, I use a sighted assistant for dealing with documents that contain handwriting or that are of poor quality. I use a program called Abbyy Finereader. When I have long documents, I usually convert them from PDF to plain text. I lose some of the formatting, but usually this works best for me. Sometimes, if there is handwriting, I can tell because there will be jibberish in the document. I will then ask my administrative assistant to read or type the parts of the document that I can't access with OCR. Also, if there are documents that I think could have handwriting, I will ask my assistant to scroll through and alert me if there is anything there. Sometimes, depending on the task, I ask my assistant to convert a document to Word or to read it to me, but most of the PDFs I need to access can be dealt with in Abbyy Finereader or a similar program. My work is transactional in nature, though, so I might not encounter the types of things you do. And I can't say enough about kNFB Reader. Once, I used it at a conference to scan a handout we were given in a group session. The results were near perfect. I had access to the material in speech and in braille almost instantaneously. It was pretty amazing. I was able to participate in the activity with my sighted colleagues and contribute meaningfully to my team's efforts. I hope this is helpful. Good luck with JAWS. It can be difficult to incorporate training into your schedule when you have a busy practice, but JAWS can definitely give you pretty good access to a lot of what you will need in your practice. Best, Angie On 4/12/16, Avino, Kristy via BlindLaw wrote: > Thanks Kelby. My firm has provided me with JAWS, but I have not found it > easy to learn how to use it on my own so I'm investigating training. > > Sounds like I definitely need KNFB reader app. > > Are there any scanner programs that will read handwriting, or at the very > least alert me that there is handwriting on a paper or scanned document? > That is a huge concern on mine when doing document review. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby > Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:31 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! > > A couple of things: > > It's very possible your firm may be able to provide you with JAWS. If they > can't, some rehab organizations for the blind will, as well as services like > the Lions Club. I'd explore those options if you can. As far as reading > paper documents, you will probably want a scanner. You'll need an OCR > program to convert the documents to text. This is something else your > employer might have to provide under the ADEA. However, if you have a > Smartphone I would also suggest getting the KNFB Reader App. It essentially > turns your phone into a portable scanner that will read documents to you. It > works wonderfully and can also save converted documents for later use. The > app is about $85, but that is far less than what most programs like this > cost. It is also useful for being able to review documents in situations > where you don't have a main scanner. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Avino, Kristy via BlLaw > To: his'Blind Law Mailing List'" > Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:26 pm > Subject: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the >> board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of >> information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! >> >> I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in >> Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa >> one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, >> as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which >> again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go >> before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get >> training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure >> out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper >> documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently >> and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been >> through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. >> >> All the best, >> Kristy >> >> >> Kristy L. Avino | Associate >> McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP >> >> 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 >> T: 617-449-6577 >> F: 617-607-9135 >> kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com >> >> BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK >> EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC >> >> >> >> >> This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the >> sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original >> message. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 10:09:45 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 06:09:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! Message-ID: <20160413100945.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Angie-I assume you were using some sort of braille display with your iPhone? ----- Original Message ----- From: Angie Matney via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:03 am Subject: Re: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > > > hi Kristy, > > I don't know of any OCR programs that can reliably deal with > handwriting. While I can independently access PDFCbi's of decent copies of > documents, I use a sighted assistant for dealing with documents that > contain handwriting or that are of poor quality. > > I use a program called Abbyy Finereader. When I have long documents, I > usually convert them from PDF to plain text. I lose some of the > formatting, but usually this works best for me. Sometimes, if there is > handwriting, I can tell because there will be jibberish in the > document. I will then ask my administrative assistant to read or type > the parts of the document that I can't access with OCR. Also, if there > are documents that I think could have handwriting, I will ask my > assistant to scroll through and alert me if there is anything there. > Sometimes, depending on the task, I ask my assistant to convert a > document to Word or to read it to me, but most of the PDFCbi's I need to > access can be dealt with in Abbyy Finereader or a similar program. My > work is transactional in nature, though, so I might not encounter the > types of things you do. > > And I can't say enough about kNFB Reader. Once, I used it at a > conference to scan a handout we were given in a group session. The > results were near perfect. I had access to the material in speech and > in braille almost instantaneously. It was pretty amazing. I was able > to participate in the activity with my sighted colleagues and > contribute meaningfully to my team's efforts. > > I hope this is helpful. Good luck with JAWS. It can be difficult to > incorporate training into your schedule when you have a busy practice, > but JAWS can definitely give you pretty good access to a lot of what > you will need in your practice. > > Best, > > Angie > > > On 4/12/16, Avino, Kristy via BlLaw wrote: > > Thanks Kelby. My firm has provided me with JAWS, but I have not found it > > easy to learn how to use it on my own so I'm investigating training. > > > > Sounds like I definitely need KNFB reader app. > > > > Are there any scanner programs that will read handwriting, or at the very > > least alert me that there is handwriting on a paper or scanned document? > > That is a huge concern on mine when doing document review. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby > > Carlson via BlLaw > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:31 PM > > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Kelby Carlson > > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > > > > A couple of things: > > > > It's very possible your firm may be able to provide you with JAWS. If they > > can't, some rehab organizations for the blind will, as well as services like > > the Lions Club. I'd explore those options if you can. As far as reading > > paper documents, you will probably want a scanner. You'll need an OCR > > program to convert the documents to text. This is something else your > > employer might have to provide under the ADEA. However, if you have a > > Smartphone I would also suggest getting the KNFB Reader App. It essentially > > turns your phone into a portable scanner that will read documents to you. It > > works wonderfully and can also save converted documents for later use. The > > app is about $85, but that is far less than what most programs like this > > cost. It is also useful for being able to review documents in situations > > where you don't have a main scanner. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Avino, Kristy via BlLaw > > To: his'Blind Law Mailing List'" > > Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:26 pm > > Subject: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > > > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the > >> board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of > >> information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! > >> > >> I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in > >> Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa > >> one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, > >> as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which > >> again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go > >> before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get > >> training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure > >> out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper > >> documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently > >> and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been > >> through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. > >> > >> All the best, > >> Kristy > >> > >> > >> Kristy L. Avino | Associate > >> McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP > >> > >> 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 > >> T: 617-449-6577 > >> F: 617-607-9135 > >> kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com > >> > >> BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK > >> EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the > >> sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and > >> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > >> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > >> contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > >> message. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> BlLaw: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com > > > > This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the > > sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > > contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > > message. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 15:46:57 2016 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction and hello! In-Reply-To: <20160413100945.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20160413100945.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kelby, Yes, I use a braille display with my iphone. I currently have a Perkins Mini and a Vario Ultra 40 that I use mostly for personal stuff though sometimes for work), and a Braille Edge that my firm purchased for me to use for work. I also used the prior generation of the Focus 40 Blue (also bought by my firm) until it died a few months ago. Using a display with KNFB Reader is, for me, very empowering. Also, if anyone is interested, I would be happy to talk about how the displays I have used compare with each other, and how I use them in my practice. It would be interesting to hear from others who use braille displays as well. Thanks, Angie Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > Angie-I assume you were using some sort of braille display with your iPhone? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Angie Matney via BlLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:03 am > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! > >> >> >> hi Kristy, >> >> I don't know of any OCR programs that can reliably deal with >> handwriting. While I can independently access PDFCbi's of decent copies of >> documents, I use a sighted assistant for dealing with documents that >> contain handwriting or that are of poor quality. >> >> I use a program called Abbyy Finereader. When I have long documents, I >> usually convert them from PDF to plain text. I lose some of the >> formatting, but usually this works best for me. Sometimes, if there is >> handwriting, I can tell because there will be jibberish in the >> document. I will then ask my administrative assistant to read or type >> the parts of the document that I can't access with OCR. Also, if there >> are documents that I think could have handwriting, I will ask my >> assistant to scroll through and alert me if there is anything there. >> Sometimes, depending on the task, I ask my assistant to convert a >> document to Word or to read it to me, but most of the PDFCbi's I need to >> access can be dealt with in Abbyy Finereader or a similar program. My >> work is transactional in nature, though, so I might not encounter the >> types of things you do. >> >> And I can't say enough about kNFB Reader. Once, I used it at a >> conference to scan a handout we were given in a group session. The >> results were near perfect. I had access to the material in speech and >> in braille almost instantaneously. It was pretty amazing. I was able >> to participate in the activity with my sighted colleagues and >> contribute meaningfully to my team's efforts. >> >> I hope this is helpful. Good luck with JAWS. It can be difficult to >> incorporate training into your schedule when you have a busy practice, >> but JAWS can definitely give you pretty good access to a lot of what >> you will need in your practice. >> >> Best, >> >> Angie >> >> >>> On 4/12/16, Avino, Kristy via BlLaw wrote: >>> Thanks Kelby. My firm has provided me with JAWS, but I have not found it >>> easy to learn how to use it on my own so I'm investigating training. >>> >>> Sounds like I definitely need KNFB reader app. >>> >>> Are there any scanner programs that will read handwriting, or at the very >>> least alert me that there is handwriting on a paper or scanned document? >>> That is a huge concern on mine when doing document review. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby >>> Carlson via BlLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:31 PM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! >>> >>> A couple of things: >>> >>> It's very possible your firm may be able to provide you with JAWS. If they >>> can't, some rehab organizations for the blind will, as well as services like >>> the Lions Club. I'd explore those options if you can. As far as reading >>> paper documents, you will probably want a scanner. You'll need an OCR >>> program to convert the documents to text. This is something else your >>> employer might have to provide under the ADEA. However, if you have a >>> Smartphone I would also suggest getting the KNFB Reader App. It essentially >>> turns your phone into a portable scanner that will read documents to you. It >>> works wonderfully and can also save converted documents for later use. The >>> app is about $85, but that is far less than what most programs like this >>> cost. It is also useful for being able to review documents in situations >>> where you don't have a main scanner. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Avino, Kristy via BlLaw >>> To: his'Blind Law Mailing List'" >>> Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:26 pm >>> Subject: [bllaw] Introduction and hello! >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I wanted to say hello and introduce myself as I've been following the >>>> board for several months now. I have been getting useful nuggets of >>>> information from the archives for a few months now, so thank you! >>>> >>>> I practice employment counseling and litigation at McCarter & English in >>>> Boston, MA. BC Law class of 2003. I learned I had retinitis pigmentosa >>>> one year after I graduated from law school, which was a complete surprise, >>>> as no one else in my family has it. Legally blind since last fall, which >>>> again was a surprise as I thought I had a good number of years to go >>>> before I reached that point. Trying to figure out how to use and get >>>> training for JAWS while maintaining my practice. Also trying to figure >>>> out how to do all the things I ordinarily do in my practice (review paper >>>> documents! Read paper books!) and if it can still be done as efficiently >>>> and effectively as before. Anyone in the same boat or who has been >>>> through it before can feel free to reach out though the board or offline. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> Kristy >>>> >>>> >>>> Kristy L. Avino | Associate >>>> McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP >>>> >>>> 265 Franklin Street | Boston, Massachusetts 02110 >>>> T: 617-449-6577 >>>> F: 617-607-9135 >>>> kavino at mccarter.com | http://www.mccarter.com >>>> >>>> BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK >>>> EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the >>>> sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and >>>> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>>> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >>>> contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original >>>> message. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kavino%40mccarter.com >>> >>> This email message from the law firm of McCarter & English, LLP is for the >>> sole use of the intended recipientggness) and may contain confidential and >>> privileged information. 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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Apr 13 20:11:09 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:11:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] DHHS attorney position in Seattle Message-ID: From: [DO NOT REPLY] [mailto:notifications at usajobs.gov] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 1:03 AM Subject: USAJOBS Daily Saved Search Results for Seattle social science, legal, education for 4/9/2016 To view the complete list of results on the USAJOBS web site, please click View All Opportunities. 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Joy Williams Diversity Program Manager, Advancement Department Washington State Bar Association t.206.733.5952|f.206.727.8310 1325 4th Avenue, Suite 600 Seattle, Washington 98101 www.wsba.org --- You are currently subscribed to diversity-stakeholders as: noel.nightingale at ed.gov. To unsubscribe click here: http://list.wsba.org/u?id=9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389&n=T&l=diversity-stakeholders&o=158154 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-158154-9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389 at list.wsba.org If you have any questions, or wish to change your email address, please contact the WSBA List Administrator. From jtfetter at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 13:33:44 2016 From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 09:33:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Best technology for oral arguments? Message-ID: <570F9C38.2020403@yahoo.com> Dear All, I hope that spring is finding you all well and, for my fellow law students, not as exhausted as I am at the end of the semester. I would like to have your thoughts on the best technological solutions for having notes at hand during oral arguments, either in a moot court or real court context. I currently use a Braille display, specifically the Alva BC640, which works reasonably well with Jaws. However, I find it difficult at times to move quickly to notes pertinent to whatever element of the argument I need to jump to, especially after responding to a question that asked about a specific case or citation to the record. I'm sure some of this is simply a matter of gaining more experience with doing oral arguments, but I would still appreciate any tips you all might have about this. I recently heard about Humanware's BrailleNote Touch, which sounds interesting, but I have steered clear of proprietary note-takers, since they're not exactly on the cutting edge or universally compatible with mainstream file formats. Any thoughts on structuring notes would also be appreciated. Thanks. All Best, James From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 14:11:57 2016 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:11:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Best technology for oral arguments? In-Reply-To: <570F9C38.2020403@yahoo.com> References: <570F9C38.2020403@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF97C90-B1F1-46DE-A383-FB3468F5B305@gmail.com> James, In my limited experience in oral arguments, I've done the best o van to know my arguments and sources Backward and forward. This makes for a much smoother performance, but it does take more time. As a backup, I use a one page cheat sheet with a general outline and the citations. I have this on an iPad with Bluetooth headst so the iPad reads the section my finger is over. I limit the outline to one page so that I can get accustomed to where the section is on the screen so I'll know exactly where to go during arguments. Best, Cody Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 9:33 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: > > Dear All, > I hope that spring is finding you all well and, for my fellow law students, not as exhausted as I am at the end of the semester. I would like to have your thoughts on the best technological solutions for having notes at hand during oral arguments, either in a moot court or real court context. I currently use a Braille display, specifically the Alva BC640, which works reasonably well with Jaws. However, I find it difficult at times to move quickly to notes pertinent to whatever element of the argument I need to jump to, especially after responding to a question that asked about a specific case or citation to the record. I'm sure some of this is simply a matter of gaining more experience with doing oral arguments, but I would still appreciate any tips you all might have about this. I recently heard about Humanware's BrailleNote Touch, which sounds interesting, but I have steered clear of proprietary note-takers, since they're not exactly on the cutting edge or universally compatible with mainstream file formats. Any thoughts on structuring notes would also be appreciated. Thanks. > All Best, > James > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From aloshamoore at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 03:08:50 2016 From: aloshamoore at gmail.com (Alosha Moore) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:08:50 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Best technology for oral arguments? In-Reply-To: <570F9C38.2020403@yahoo.com> References: <570F9C38.2020403@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good evening James: I suggest using your Braille display and ordering your cases as they come up in your arguments. This will help with the concentrating on the judge and opposing counsel without having to deal with the headphone, although I've used this method plenty successfully as Cody said. Blocking each one of them out and putting at least a line between each Will also help streamline the process. Memorization is your best tool, so I often remember the facts with the case name and that helps me remember The distinguishing law that I'm arguing. All the best, Alosha. Sent from my iPhone. > On Apr 14, 2016, at 8:33 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: > > Dear All, > I hope that spring is finding you all well and, for my fellow law students, not as exhausted as I am at the end of the semester. I would like to have your thoughts on the best technological solutions for having notes at hand during oral arguments, either in a moot court or real court context. I currently use a Braille display, specifically the Alva BC640, which works reasonably well with Jaws. However, I find it difficult at times to move quickly to notes pertinent to whatever element of the argument I need to jump to, especially after responding to a question that asked about a specific case or citation to the record. I'm sure some of this is simply a matter of gaining more experience with doing oral arguments, but I would still appreciate any tips you all might have about this. I recently heard about Humanware's BrailleNote Touch, which sounds interesting, but I have steered clear of proprietary note-takers, since they're not exactly on the cutting edge or universally compatible with mainstream file formats. Any thoughts on structuring notes would also be appreciated. Thanks. > All Best, > James > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aloshamoore%40gmail.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 03:50:28 2016 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 04:50:28 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Document Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, As per my previous email, I think this is a really important issue. I wonder whether we should formulate a plan of campaign, to seek the accessibility of these software platforms - I and my firm have raised the issue with suppliers of discovery platforms but I think there is more to be gained by raising this as a group and/or in a co-ordinated manner. Any comments would be most welcome. Kind regards Ger From chris.stewart at uky.edu Fri Apr 15 13:02:38 2016 From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:02:38 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments Message-ID: Hey Folks, Of course, it's to each their own, but the best strategy for guiding my oral arguments is actual, hand-written braille notes. This has two advantages, the typing of the notes helps to reinforce your familiarity with your argument and its factual/legal backing. And, you have the freedom of the entire page. I use relatively short paragraphs with a space between so I can run my fingers down the page and have guideposts for where I am. Usually, I keep one page in the back that is nothing but case citations, just in case someone decides to ask for a full cite. This rarely happens in practice from what I understand, but it frequently happens on mmoot courts in law school. If you have more than a 15 or 20 minute argument, I would advise putting your notes into a notebook with braille tabs to help you structure your argument. When it's time to move to issue two, simply turn to the tab with issue two brailled on it, and "bingo!" Technology is a wonderful tool, but I think the single-line nature of refreshable braille display is a huge disadvantage in oral arguments. Best, Chris -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 13:27:15 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:27:15 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments Message-ID: <20160415132715.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I can't remember the last time I used braille paper, besides music in college. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stewart, Christopher K via BlLaw To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Date: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 am Subject: Re: [bllaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments > > > Hey Folks, > > Of course, it's to each their own, but the best strategy for guiding > my oral arguments is actual, hand-written braille notes. This has two > advantages, the typing of the notes helps to reinforce your > familiarity with your argument and its factual/legal backing. And, you > have the freedom of the entire page. > > I use relatively short paragraphs with a space between so I can run my > fingers down the page and have guideposts for where I am. Usually, I > keep one page in the back that is nothing but case citations, just in > case someone decides to ask for a full cite. This rarely happens in > practice from what I understand, but it frequently happens on mmoot > courts in law school. > > If you have more than a 15 or 20 minute argument, I would advise > putting your notes into a notebook with braille tabs to help you > structure your argument. When it's time to move to issue two, simply > turn to the tab with issue two brailled on it, and "bingo!" Technology > is a wonderful tool, but I think the single-line nature of refreshable > braille display is a huge disadvantage in oral arguments. > > Best, > Chris > > > - > Chris K. Stewart > University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate > Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal > Co-President, American Constitution Society > President, Election Law Society > California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 > Ph: > (502(457-1757 > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From rthomas48 at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 13:28:41 2016 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:28:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] oral argument Message-ID: <5710EC89.1040009@gmail.com> James I participated in my first year oral argument three weeks ago, and I did really well. I think the best way to navigate through oral argument's is to memorize the facts and case names. Also, it is very important to practice in front of people a lot, so that you do not become nervous the day of your competition. From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 13:31:58 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:31:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] oral argument Message-ID: <20160415133158.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> I agree with this. I find that having a very, very short outline can be helpful, but I memorize most of it. This may change as the arguments get longer and the briefs more complicated. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick Thomas via BlLaw To: blind law Date: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:29 am Subject: [bllaw] oral argument > > > James I participated in my first year oral argument three weeks ago, and > I did really well. I think the best way to navigate through oral > argument's is to memorize the facts and case names. Also, it is very > important to practice in front of people a lot, so that you do not > become nervous the day of your competition. > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Mon Apr 18 16:00:24 2016 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:00:24 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA511407F861A9@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> This is a great thread with many good insights. I have been doing appellate work and arguing dispositive motions in the trial courts for over thirty years. I started out using slate and stylus until 2003, used a Notetaker for about 10 years, and then an iPad with Braille Display. I am now back to the slate and stylus. It does take a bit more time in preparation but that is an aid to memorization which is the best resource in effective argument anyway. The thing about slate and stylus is that it is much less failure prone than the technological solutions, allows you to be more focused on the judges and their questions, and for me is easier to take notes with than a braille keyboard. By the way, I have always used the paper from an 8.5x11 legal pad rather than the heavier standard Braille paper. The result is more perishable, but it allows for much faster writing, and lasts long enough to get through the argument and any subsequent proceedings where you might need to refer back to your notes. I usually make a short outline of the key points I want to make, and then a separate page or pages of key quotes and citations to back up my position. Often the outline does not survive the first few questions, but I can refer back to it as my time runs out to make sure I get in all the points if they still seem worthwhile. I think the bottom line is that whatever system you use needs to give you the confidence that it will not fail when you need it, and offer the least distraction to what you need to be focused on which is the interaction with the judge or judges. Best regards, Brian Brian C. Unitt Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 6:03 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Stewart, Christopher K Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments Hey Folks, Of course, it's to each their own, but the best strategy for guiding my oral arguments is actual, hand-written braille notes. This has two advantages, the typing of the notes helps to reinforce your familiarity with your argument and its factual/legal backing. And, you have the freedom of the entire page. I use relatively short paragraphs with a space between so I can run my fingers down the page and have guideposts for where I am. Usually, I keep one page in the back that is nothing but case citations, just in case someone decides to ask for a full cite. This rarely happens in practice from what I understand, but it frequently happens on mmoot courts in law school. If you have more than a 15 or 20 minute argument, I would advise putting your notes into a notebook with braille tabs to help you structure your argument. When it's time to move to issue two, simply turn to the tab with issue two brailled on it, and "bingo!" Technology is a wonderful tool, but I think the single-line nature of refreshable braille display is a huge disadvantage in oral arguments. Best, Chris -- Chris K. Stewart University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 Ph: (502)457-1757 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 16:14:30 2016 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:14:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments Message-ID: <20160418161430.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Funny enough, I have been considering getting a slate and stylus for the reasons you stated. Although I have never used one before, so it will probably be slow at first. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Unitt via BlLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [bllaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments > > > This is a great thread with many good insights. > > I have been doing appellate work and arguing dispositive motions in the trial courts for over thirty years. I started out using slate and stylus until 2003, used a Notetaker for about 10 years, and then an iPad with Braille Display. I am now back to the slate and stylus. It does take a bit more time in preparation but that is an aid to memorization which is the best resource in effective argument anyway. The thing about slate and stylus is that it is much less failure prone than the technological solutions, allows you to be more focused on the judges and their questions, and for me is easier to take notes with than a braille keyboard. By the way, I have always used the paper from an 8.5x11 legal pad rather than the heavier standard Braille paper. The result is more perishable, but it allows for much faster writing, and lasts long enough to get through the argument and any subsequent proceedings where you might need to refer back to your notes. > > I usually make a short outline of the key points I want to make, and then a separate page or pages of key quotes and citations to back up my position. Often the outline does not survive the first few questions, but I can refer back to it as my time runs out to make sure I get in all the points if they still seem worthwhile. I think the bottom line is that whatever system you use needs to give you the confidence that it will not fail when you need it, and offer the least distraction to what you need to be focused on which is the interaction with the judge or judges. > > Best regards, > > Brian > Brian C. Unitt > Holstein, Taylor and Unitt > A Professional Corporation > 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 > Riverside, CA 92501 > Tel: 951-682-7030 > Fax: 951-684-8061 > www.holsteinlaw.com > mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via BlLaw > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 6:03 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Stewart, Christopher K > Subject: Re: [bllaw] Best Tech for Oral Arguments > > Hey Folks, > > Of course, it's to each their own, but the best strategy for guiding my oral arguments is actual, hand-written braille notes. This has two advantages, the typing of the notes helps to reinforce your familiarity with your argument and its factual/legal backing. And, you have the freedom of the entire page. > > I use relatively short paragraphs with a space between so I can run my fingers down the page and have guideposts for where I am. Usually, I keep one page in the back that is nothing but case citations, just in case someone decides to ask for a full cite. This rarely happens in practice from what I understand, but it frequently happens on mmoot courts in law school. > > If you have more than a 15 or 20 minute argument, I would advise putting your notes into a notebook with braille tabs to help you structure your argument. When it's time to move to issue two, simply turn to the tab with issue two brailled on it, and "bingo!" Technology is a wonderful tool, but I think the single-line nature of refreshable braille display is a huge disadvantage in oral arguments. > > Best, > Chris > > > - > Chris K. Stewart > University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate Senior Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American Constitution Society President, Election Law Society California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010 > Ph: > (502(457-1757 > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From glnorman15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 13:34:41 2016 From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:34:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Spread the word: FREE training on Service Animals and Domestic Violence Survivors! In-Reply-To: <01c401d199ec$7282c780$57885680$@hotmail.com> References: <049701d199d7$814cd6d0$83e68470$@hotmail.com> <01c401d199ec$7282c780$57885680$@hotmail.com> Message-ID: From: GLNorman [mailto:glnorman15 at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 11:35 PM To: lisa.gladden at senate.state.md.us Subject: FW: Spread the word: FREE training on Service Animals and Domestic Violence Survivors! Importance: High From: GLNorman [mailto:glnorman15 at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 9:05 PM To: 'Adrianne Lefkowitz' >; 'E. Anne Benaroya' >; mvessels at transcen.org Subject: FW: Spread the word: FREE training on Service Animals and Domestic Violence Survivors! Importance: High Register here for a free seminar with which I will be involved on service animals and domestic violence survivors with disabilities: https://dvserviceanimals.eventbrite.com. Find attached flyer. Distribute broadly. Sincerely, G. 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L.L.M, Attorney, Consultant, and State Civil Rights Commissioner Join us to learn more about the roles and purposes of service animals in the lives of survivors with disabilities. Participants will learn about best practices for serving these survivors including specific safety planning tips as well as practical ways to accommodate, protect, and respond to service animals. From glnorman15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 15:23:27 2016 From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 15:23:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [MARKETING EMAIL]Federal Employees with Disabilities - Moving your career forward In-Reply-To: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482DAAF84AFE@pl-emsmb12> References: <2DD3498A837A9347A4E5E536B3FF482DAAF84AFE@pl-emsmb12> Message-ID: From: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) [mailto:Gary.Norman at cms.hhs.gov] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:53 AM To: Gary Norman home (glnorman15 at hotmail.com) ; nellyburker at aol.com Subject: FW: [MARKETING EMAIL]Federal Employees with Disabilities - Moving your career forward From: Federal Employees with Disabilities (FEDs) [mailto:fedsfirst=gmail.com at mail213.atl171.mcdlv.net] On Behalf Of Federal Employees with Disabilities (FEDs) Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 9:22 AM To: Norman, Gary C. (CMS/OSORA) Subject: [MARKETING EMAIL]Federal Employees with Disabilities - Moving your career forward Get the most up-to-date and accurate information about the Federal Employment of People with Disabilities. Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. [Image removed by sender. Federal Employees with Disabilities Logo] [Image removed by sender.] Strategic Planning: Important to Advancing Conversations on Employment Language: Barrier or Beautifier to Human Experience Accessible Sports – Yoga Who is FEDs? ________________________________ Strategic Planning: Important to Advancing Conversations on Employment By: Mark J Benedict, J.D. – FEDs Vice President and USDA FSIS DEPM [Image removed by sender. EEOC Logo]Progress does not exist in the level one hopes for employment and upward mobility for leaders with disabilities. Unfortunately, no silver bullet exists for making the federal government the model employer it should be. Strategic thought leadership, as one point of leverage, may help advance the goal. In the Spring of 2015, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission held a Federal Sector Disability Employment strategic planning session. Senior Federal leaders and subject matter experts in disability employment met; discussing the challenges and opportunities posed by Executive Order #13548 requiring 4 % of all new Federal hires to be persons with targeted disabilities and 10% of all new Federal hires to be persons with a reportable disability. Jason Olsen, represented Federal Employees with Disabilities at that one-day strategic planning session. Mark Benedict attended representing the United States Department of Agriculture -- FSIS in his capacity as the FSIS Disability Employment Program Manager. On May 28, 2015, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the Office of Personnel Management, and the Office of Disability Employment Policy at the Department of Labor engaged in a follow-up the Disability Employment Federal Strategy Planning and Engagement session. A result of that one-day gathering was a series of follow-on actions, including, the creation of multiple working groups; each tasked with addressing issues identified as priorities and to develop resources and tool kits for addressing those identified issues that could be shared with all session attendees. The 4 working groups focus on the following: Proposed Changes to Schedule A, known as the Schedule A Authority working group; Reasonable Accommodations; Partnership and Collaboration - Disability Employment Resource Groups, known as the Collaboration and Partnerships to Improve Inter-Agency and Intra-Agency Collaboration working group; and, Empowerment & Upward Mobility -- meaning Retention and Advancement after the hire, known as the Empowerment to Improve Upward Mobility, Advancement and Retention of Persons with Disabilities working group. Jason and Mark each serve on several of these working groups and were recently interviewed by the working group Chairpersons to get their views on the various issues identified and to help build the issue-specific resources for inclusion on the issue toolkit. Each of the working groups will be a de facto data warehouse for each identified disability employment strategic issue. Each member of each working group should provide the working group Chair links to or copies of any policies, practices, and procedures developed by their agency concerning that working group’s focus. That would include, for example, any official announcements or policy statements on Employee Retention and Advancement; or also for example, Memoranda of Understanding, formal regulations, policies, Standard Operating Procedures, or Best Practices. For questions or to contribute, please contact Mark by phone at (202) 205-7913 or via e-mail at mark.benedict at fsis.usda.gov . ________________________________ Language: Barrier or Beautifier to Human Experience By: Vittorio S Santoro, PhD, LCSW-C [Image removed by sender. Photo that reads "hello" in different languages]The language that frames conversations about people with disabilities, a word I reluctantly utilize, often serves to limit thinking as much as it clarifies. As an individual, who might be described as a person with a disability these days, who would be described definitely as an older adult who has semi-retired from a career in the federal government to the shade of my fig tree, I focus a lens of personal and professional experience to that conversation. I have observed that people with disabilities combat (even with the enactment of the Americans with Disabilities Act and laws that have followed) barriers to employment – both the barriers they erect for themselves; and most of all, the barriers erected without their control. Language comprises one form of barrier in this regard. I perhaps did truly not know this, until I also fell into the disability classification. As such, it falls incumbent on leaders to frame conversations powerfully. Family members, co-workers, healthcare professionals and allied professionals, and individuals with disabilities themselves can become imprisoned by the words used to describe disability? When terms describe a person who lacks one or more senses, often the person receives myopically a description as “blind”, “hyperactive”, “of limited mental ability” instead of labels as a citizen, as a person, as a contributor. Well, that this limits employment, that perhaps looms foul enough, but it may also deleterious impact health. Personal story: In addition to my physical therapy sessions, which I energetically completed, as rehabilitation to a series of streaks; the medical staff prescribed an anti-depressant medication without evaluating whether or not I was depressed. My daughter Gina, a psychologist, noticed the medication and asked me if I was depressed. One presumes the medical staff prescribed the medication; grounded in a stereotype that, an older adult, suffering through the pains of post stroke rehabilitation, must be apriority depressed. That unfortunate older adult -- sick, physically or mentally hindered by illness. And so, the thinking is that, if someone has a stroke, he or she must be depressed. He or she is a “stroke victim” instead of a leader with a rich life story. Given inertia imposed by external actors of authority, such as physicians, such as career counselors, individuals with disabilities may fall into defining themselves as disabled – not as a badge of pried, not as a classification that enables certain opportunities but rather as a Rubicon that divides. Unfortunately, this comprises a fixed, rigid, way of thinking, rather than having an expansive perspective that seizas each moment as opportunity to adapt, to think about and commit to strategies and actions that enrich. So often in my psychotherapy practice, I have seen this “buying” of a stereotype by patients. I have been heartened when I have met an individual who does not see “handicap” as a term that exhausts the understanding. This expansive approach is also how I have adapted to life post-stroke. When I worked at the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind in Washington D.C., I was fortunate enough to meet and work with individuals with a growth approach. They adapted to their situations sometimes with difficulty but always the goal was the same: to continue to grow. ________________________________ Accessible Sports – Yoga By: Gary C. Norman, Esq. “Surely all God's people, however serious or savage, great or small, like to play.” John Muir, the [Image removed by sender. Picture of a calendar that says "yoga" for "today"] Story of My Boyhood and Youth (1913) PP. 186-87 How many people have been on the commuter train listening to riders discuss their ten thousand steps in what seems like a daily obsession to meet the demands of the fitbit? Despite the stereotypes of disability, federal employees with disabilities may be healthier – at least within the boundaries of their abilities and not disabilities. Yoga, an exercise that engages the mind-body connection, provides a low-impact form of exercise accessible, in a great range, to the blind and to others who may have a physical limitation. Whether people with disabilities, in confronting the benefits and the challenges of difference, are less than or are more than super hero, it is important to recognize that difference causes stress, a kind of wear and tear on the physical and mental body. While this is true of all Americans these days in a faster and faster technological-driven society, people with disabilities have unique stressors resulting from the benefits of being the unique dog handler in the room or the challenge of hearing somehow one is less than because they access the computer differently. As the expanding body of research shows, stress and anxiety, when unmanaged, causes disease, including, but not limited to, a negative energetic space around one’s body. Particularly, people with disabilities may be recognized as ailing from health disparities, including, equal access to recreation and sports. And, as a consequence, people with disabilities are, at a minimum, perceived as being unhealthy. Yoga, an exercise that engages the mind-body connection, provides a low-impact form of exercise accessible, in a great range, to the blind. According to Nelly Burke, a Licensed Massage Therapist in Maryland as well as a yoga instructor, “Since yoga is a study of the self, it's great for anyone, including the blind.” In basic terms, yoga relies on a range of poses that engage various energy and physical pressure points in the body. I have no more difficulty than sighted colleagues in performing any of the various moves interestingly if usually named for sundry kinds of animals. While one performs a posture, one must focus on breathing; thereby engaging the spirituality of physical movement – actions not limited to the sighted. Nelly also stated, “As a blind person, the poses are accessible,” bringing their practitioner into a state conducive to reaching meditation, “which is the ultimate practice of yoga.” So I recommend the next time a blind colleague feels fatigued, engage exercise. ________________________________ Who is FEDs? [Image removed by sender. GIF of Robert Downy Junior saying "that is an excellent question"] Watch this one minute video and find out! Then send it to your friends so they can find out too! friend on Facebook |JOIN FEDs NOW forward to a friend We put F.E.D's First! *|IF:REWA [Image removed by sender. Image of FEDs Star] RDS|* [Image removed by sender. Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] unsubscribe from this list | update subscription preferences -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD364.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: ~WRD364.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This job contributes to Starbucks success by providing legal counsel and advice to Starbucks management and partners relating to potential and actual litigation, primarily in the areas of commercial, real estate, consumer protection and general business law.Oversees business litigation against the company by supervising the work of outside counsel, providing advice and support to business and field employees involved in litigation and working toward reasonable and cost effective resolution of cases.Investigate and respond to real estate, commercial and business claims and complaints that could lead to litigation. Work as a team with other litigation attorneys and paralegals to develop and implement systems and procedures for the consistent handling of the company’s litigation, ediscovery and avoidance of claims. Provide advice and training on matters relating to litigation and litigation avoidance, including assessing the risks of potential litigation. Models and acts in accordance with Starbucks guiding principles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Washington Attorneys with Disabilities Association" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From rthomas48 at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 17:42:26 2016 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:42:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] question Message-ID: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with learning another legal research website at this point in my law school career. From wickps at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 17:50:10 2016 From: wickps at gmail.com (Paul Wick) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:50:10 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] question In-Reply-To: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> References: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> Message-ID: My knowledge is a little dated, but the text only version of WestLaw works well with Jaws. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with learning another legal research website at this point in my law school career. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wickps%40gmail.com From JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM Thu Apr 21 17:59:03 2016 From: JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM (Loevy, Joshua L. (LG)) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 17:59:03 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] question In-Reply-To: References: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB67AA50@LG0022.lathropgage.com> In my experience westlaw works very well with jaws, and I have not come across a firm that doesn't currently own a westlaw subscription. If you are concerned I would contact Lexis directly. I know westlaw maintains some level of familiarity with screen readers, and Lexis may do the same. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:50 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Paul Wick Subject: Re: [blindlaw] question My knowledge is a little dated, but the text only version of WestLaw works well with Jaws. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with learning another legal research website at this point in my law school career. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Py3PQcShPJT_zD8GRXSqmYDCbl0bDBBAEFVef7YE4TI&e= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_wickps-2540gmail.com&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=lWAW6r4Gk2mYBcQ18kqx_Gcft-s9pZbJROU3FJHD6ZQ&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Py3PQcShPJT_zD8GRXSqmYDCbl0bDBBAEFVef7YE4TI&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Rbatb9wQw2KBoVLdUl1gzkDu-WCpMh67xnbLBUlnTQg&e= From TTomasi at driowa.org Thu Apr 21 18:03:07 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:03:07 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] question In-Reply-To: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> References: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCA026B3BF8@DSM-SBS.disabilityright.local> I am a JAWS user. I took an advanced legal research course in law school which required me to become familiar with Lexis, Bloomburg, and FastCase. None of these were as accessible as Westlaw. Although students were encouraged to learn as many databases as possible in law school, I haven't been at a disadvantage due to the fact that I exclusively use Westlaw. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:42 PM To: blind law Cc: Roderick Thomas Subject: [blindlaw] question Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with learning another legal research website at this point in my law school career. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Thu Apr 21 18:06:15 2016 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:06:15 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] question In-Reply-To: <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB67AA50@LG0022.lathropgage.com> References: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> <85254057485D6342B205D8697056F23EEB67AA50@LG0022.lathropgage.com> Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA511407F8B4DC@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Westlaw had a text only option when I had a subscription a few years ago, and that worked well. I have been with Lexis for two years, and find the Lexis Advance to be very difficult to use, but the regular Lexis site is fine with JAWS. Brian Brian C. Unitt Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:59 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) Subject: Re: [blindlaw] question In my experience westlaw works very well with jaws, and I have not come across a firm that doesn't currently own a westlaw subscription. If you are concerned I would contact Lexis directly. I know westlaw maintains some level of familiarity with screen readers, and Lexis may do the same. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wick via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:50 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Paul Wick Subject: Re: [blindlaw] question My knowledge is a little dated, but the text only version of WestLaw works well with Jaws. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with learning another legal research website at this point in my law school career. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5 > icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Py3PQcShPJT_zD8GRXSqmYDCbl0bD > BBAEFVef7YE4TI&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_wickps-2540gmail.com&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb > 997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDI > GBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=lWAW6r4Gk > 2mYBcQ18kqx_Gcft-s9pZbJROU3FJHD6ZQ&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Py3PQcShPJT_zD8GRXSqmYDCbl0bDBBAEFVef7YE4TI&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=CwICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=PR6Y5icDeRV3hGzGT1vbRPdxb1Gsmi5RNOiao1HwwOc&s=Rbatb9wQw2KBoVLdUl1gzkDu-WCpMh67xnbLBUlnTQg&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com From shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 18:38:15 2016 From: shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com (Shelley Richards) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:38:15 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] question In-Reply-To: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> References: <57191102.8080305@gmail.com> Message-ID: I definitely think westlaw is your best option. Lexis however, can be worked with if you have a lot of patients, and try a lot of different ways to get the task done. I have found that some features are not at all accessible, but searching can be done. I have not used lexis since law school, and I only used it in law school when I needed to for my legal research class. I have recently tried fastcase, and found that it is doable on the computer, although again not all functions which are available seem to work with jaws, but the fastcase app is reasonably easy to use with voiceover so far. I have not explored it completely yet.If you use an IPhone apps for research might be worth looking into. Realistically though, you would probably be fine just using westlaw, but it definitely can't hurt to try and learn others if you have the time. Shelley Palmadessa Esq On 4/21/16, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello Group, I have a question. I am a second semester law school > student, and I am going blind. I currently enjoy using Westlaw for my > legal research. However, I tried to use Lexis Nexis today to do some > research, but I found it to be difficult with N.D.V.A. and Jaws. Do you > have any suggestions of any other legal research websites that will work > well with screen reader's? In addition, should I even be concerned with > learning another legal research website at this point in my law school > career. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shelleyrichards9%40gmail.com > -- Thank You Shelley Palmadessa shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 23 15:44:12 2016 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (Charles Krugman) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 08:44:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Cody, you may want to contact me off list as I have some familiarity with it as I have done work with the California Democratic Party on local and state election issues. I have some familiarity with Federal Election and campaign finance issues as I have done consulting for candidates running for office. Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 email: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:14 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law All, Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. Thanks, Cody J. Davis _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Sun Apr 24 17:27:44 2016 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 13:27:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law In-Reply-To: References: <6AF65FBB-9F9F-4B5F-9217-DC0B255D3500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <512801C2-E5FE-413C-8C7E-52BCDF2A4BFE@gmail.com> Thanks all. For those who offered, I'll be contacting you off list after this weeks exams. Thanks, again, Cody Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Charles Krugman via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Cody, > you may want to contact me off list as I have some familiarity with it as I have done work with the California Democratic Party on local and state election issues. I have some familiarity with Federal Election and campaign finance issues as I have done consulting for candidates running for office. > Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > email: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:14 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: [blindlaw] Elections law > > All, > > Is there anyone on the list serve who practices, is familiar with, or knows someone who practices or is familiar with campaign finance and election law. It’s a subject I’ve become increasingly more interested in, but my law school is a small school with almost no such specialty courses. It’s actually prompted me to consider transferring to a larger, more established law schoool nearby. Anyway, I’d like to get some reading materials that I can explore over the summer and see if it’s truly as interesting as I think it may be. Any connections, suggested coursework, or suggested readisn would be helpful. > > Thanks, > Cody J. Davis > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Apr 25 17:50:12 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:50:12 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Job Opening at TrueBlue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Joy Williams [mailto:joyw at wsba.org] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 12:35 PM To: Diversity Stakeholders Cc: Diversity Stakeholders Subject: RE:[diversity-stakeholders] Job Opening at TrueBlue Hi Eric, We (WSBA Staff) no longer post job openings on the diversity stakeholders list serve BUT you can send the email yourself to Diversity Stakeholders if you have any problems please let us know. Christian Murillo is the diversity intern and can help you with posting if you run into problems. Thanks and I hope you are well! K. Joy Williams Diversity Program Manager, Advancement Department Washington State Bar Association t.206.733.5952|f.206.727.8310 1325 4th Avenue, Suite 600 Seattle, Washington 98101 www.wsba.org -----Original Message----- From: De Los Santos, Eric [mailto:EDeLosSantos at trueblue.com] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:06 AM To: Joy Williams Subject: Job Opening at TrueBlue Hi Joy, We have an in house job opportunity at TrueBlue. We are looking for a labor and employment attorney. This person would be working directly with me on my team. Please forward this link to anyone who would be interested. They can also reach out to me directly if they have questions. Thank you! https://chp.tbe.taleo.net/chp03/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=TRUEBLUE&cws=4&rid=37665 Sent from my iPhone --- You are currently subscribed to diversity-stakeholders as: noel.nightingale at ed.gov. To unsubscribe click here: http://list.wsba.org/u?id=9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389&n=T&l=diversity-stakeholders&o=158613 or send a blank email to leave-158613-9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389 at list.wsba.org noel.nightingale at ed.gov. If you have any questions, or wish to change your email address, please contact the WSBA List Administrator. From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 26 00:03:32 2016 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:03:32 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Accessibility of Relativity again References: Message-ID: Hi folks: Here is the email I received from the relative representative. I will let you know if I hear any new information. Regards. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Jason Jaroch > Date: April 25, 2016 at 5:22:03 PM EDT > To: Marcos Rodrigues > Subject: RE: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers > > Marcos, > > I’ve asked our User Experience team for insight into your questions. > > As soon as I hear back from them, I’ll let you know. > > Thanks, > > Jason Jaroch | kCura > direct: (312) 870-5579 > mobile: (312) 771-8348 > jjaroch at kcura.com > > > > Meet with us in Chicago, London, New York City, Washington DC, and San Francisco! > > From: Marcos Rodrigues [mailto:mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:04 PM > To: Jason Jaroch > Subject: Re: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers > > Thanks. > > Do you know if document review is at least doable with screen readers and what are the accessibility problems? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 25, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Jason Jaroch wrote: > > Hi Marcos, > > Apologies for the delayed response. > > Although document review in Relativity is not fully compliant at this time, most parts of the application are accessible with screen readers such as JAWS and NVDA. > > Hope this helps, but please let me know if you have any additional questions. > > Thanks, > > Jason Jaroch | kCura > direct: (312) 870-5579 > mobile: (312) 771-8348 > jjaroch at kcura.com > > > > Meet with us in Chicago, London, New York City, Washington DC, and San Francisco! > > From: Marcos Rodrigues [mailto:mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:34 AM > To: Jason Jaroch > Subject: Re: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers > > Good morning: > > If you can not answer to my questions, can you forward my email to someone who is able to give more information? > > Regards. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Marcos Rodrigues wrote: > > Good morning: > > I am a blind recent graduate trying to start doing document review. > > Since most of the companies use relativity as their document review software and from what I have researched, I am not sure if relativity is accessible to screen reader users, specially the document review platform. > > Since you are the last representative of the company that addressed this issue in 2014 (regarding relativity version 9.0), can you give some more information about the accessibility of relativity and its document review platform. > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 06:29:42 2016 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 07:29:42 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Accessibility of Relativity again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marcus, Thanks for sharing this, any further developments would be of particular interest. Thanks Ger On 4/26/16, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi folks: > > Here is the email I received from the relative representative. > > I will let you know if I hear any new information. > > Regards. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Jason Jaroch >> Date: April 25, 2016 at 5:22:03 PM EDT >> To: Marcos Rodrigues >> Subject: RE: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers >> >> Marcos, >> >> I’ve asked our User Experience team for insight into your questions. >> >> As soon as I hear back from them, I’ll let you know. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason Jaroch | kCura >> direct: (312) 870-5579 >> mobile: (312) 771-8348 >> jjaroch at kcura.com >> >> >> >> Meet with us in Chicago, London, New York City, Washington DC, and San >> Francisco! >> >> From: Marcos Rodrigues [mailto:mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:04 PM >> To: Jason Jaroch >> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers >> >> Thanks. >> >> Do you know if document review is at least doable with screen readers and >> what are the accessibility problems? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 25, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Jason Jaroch wrote: >> >> Hi Marcos, >> >> Apologies for the delayed response. >> >> Although document review in Relativity is not fully compliant at this >> time, most parts of the application are accessible with screen readers >> such as JAWS and NVDA. >> >> Hope this helps, but please let me know if you have any additional >> questions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason Jaroch | kCura >> direct: (312) 870-5579 >> mobile: (312) 771-8348 >> jjaroch at kcura.com >> >> >> >> Meet with us in Chicago, London, New York City, Washington DC, and San >> Francisco! >> >> From: Marcos Rodrigues [mailto:mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 10:34 AM >> To: Jason Jaroch >> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Relativity with screen readers >> >> Good morning: >> >> If you can not answer to my questions, can you forward my email to someone >> who is able to give more information? >> >> Regards. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Marcos Rodrigues >> wrote: >> >> Good morning: >> >> I am a blind recent graduate trying to start doing document review. >> >> Since most of the companies use relativity as their document review >> software and from what I have researched, I am not sure if relativity is >> accessible to screen reader users, specially the document review >> platform. >> >> Since you are the last representative of the company that addressed this >> issue in 2014 (regarding relativity version 9.0), can you give some more >> information about the accessibility of relativity and its document review >> platform. >> >> Regards. >> Marcos Rodrigues >> mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Apr 28 18:45:18 2016 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:45:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: NWIRP is hiring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: fangseattle at googlegroups.com [mailto:fangseattle at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daquiz, Abigail - SOL Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:42 AM To: fangseattle at googlegroups.com Subject: [fangs] NWIRP is hiring The Northwest Immigrant Rights Project is an amazing organization doing incredible work. Please see the postings linked below. Northwest Immigrant Rights Project promotes justice through defending and advancing the rights of immigrants through direct legal services, systemic advocacy, and community education. From: Jorge Barón [mailto:jorge at nwirp.org] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:36 AM To: Washington State Alliance for Equal Justice Leadership Group Subject: [atj-leadership] NWIRP is hiring ATJ colleagues, NWIRP is currently hiring for two attorney positions (one in Seattle and one in Wenatchee) to fill a couple of upcoming vacancies. The job postings are linked below. We would appreciate your help in getting the word out to potential candidates (and note that we will consider recent law graduates). Thank you, Jorge https://www.nwirp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/StaffAttorneyWenatcheeApril2016.pdf https://www.nwirp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Asylum-Staff-Attorney-Position-2016.pdf Jorge L. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/fangseattle?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Federal Attorneys Networking Group of Seattle" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fangseattle+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From jlastar at comcast.net Sat Apr 30 14:59:23 2016 From: jlastar at comcast.net (Jennifer Applegate) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:59:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] paralegal certification question Message-ID: <000001d1a2f0$e2885010$a798f030$@comcast.net> Hello all, I am wondering how to go about requesting accomodations for the NALA paralegal certification exam. I appreciate any advice. Also, if there are any paralegals who are blind/visually impaired I would appreciate information about how you got your first job and how you successfully do your job daily. Thank you, Jennifer Applegate BA English UT Austin Paralegal Certificate UT Austin From TTomasi at driowa.org Sat Apr 30 15:53:01 2016 From: TTomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:53:01 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] paralegal certification question In-Reply-To: <000001d1a2f0$e2885010$a798f030$@comcast.net> References: <000001d1a2f0$e2885010$a798f030$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5240F620-B999-43AC-B43B-A0535B2D1E5A@driowa.org> I believe Chuck Krugman (not certain how to spell his last name) on this list is a paralegal. He should be able to answer some of your questions. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Staff Attorney Disability Rights Iowa Email: ttomasi at driowa.org Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Jennifer Applegate via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am wondering how to go about requesting accomodations for the NALA > paralegal certification exam. I appreciate any advice. Also, if there are > any paralegals who are blind/visually impaired I would appreciate > information about how you got your first job and how you successfully do > your job daily. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jennifer Applegate > > > > BA English UT Austin > > Paralegal Certificate UT Austin > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Sat Apr 30 16:19:53 2016 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:19:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] paralegal certification question In-Reply-To: <000001d1a2f0$e2885010$a798f030$@comcast.net> References: <000001d1a2f0$e2885010$a798f030$@comcast.net> Message-ID: hi My name is Mike Mcglashon I am a paralegal I work for umbrella here in town Email is michal.mcglashon at comcast.net Phone is 618-783-9331 If you have any questions feel free to contact me Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Jennifer Applegate via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am wondering how to go about requesting accomodations for the NALA > paralegal certification exam. I appreciate any advice. Also, if there are > any paralegals who are blind/visually impaired I would appreciate > information about how you got your first job and how you successfully do > your job daily. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jennifer Applegate > > > > BA English UT Austin > > Paralegal Certificate UT Austin > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net