[blindlaw] Core Grammar for Lawyers

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Sun Feb 7 15:53:18 UTC 2016 

HTML5 has stuff in it that makes it easier for a developer to include 
accessibility in her pages, but it is not automatic.  The stuff has 
to be used, so simply using HTML5 does not guarantee accessibility.

Dave

At 08:26 AM 2/4/2016, you wrote:
>In the acknowledgements section of the website, the author thanked 
>someone for putting this into HTML 5 format. I was under the 
>impression that HTML 5 is fairly accessible, so I was surprised it 
>is not working properly. Perhaps I am mistaken about HTML 5. I too 
>have had great luck with Firefox in situations where Internet 
>Explorer let me down.
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw
>Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:20 AM
>To: Cody J. Davis <cjdavis9193 at gmail.com>
>Cc: Stewart, Christopher K <chris.stewart at uky.edu>; Blind Law 
>Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Core Grammar for Lawyers
>
>This actually makes me think that it may work with Firefox. It's not 
>a scientific study, but my experience has been that many websites 
>which work for Apple users, but don't work for Internet Explorer 
>users, frequently work with Firefox. I know the person asking the 
>question did so in regards to Internet Explorer, but Firefox is 
>free, easy to use with JAWS, and may offer a solution here.
>
>Best,
>Chris
>
>
>On 2/4/16, Cody J. Davis <cjdavis9193 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I used the core grammar for lawyers pretest and subsequent modules and
> > quizzes in my 1L year last year. I found all of it to be accessible
> > using a Mac with Safari and the built-in screen reader voiceover.
> > Though, I do think I had some issues navigating between modules and
> > saying what modules I had already completed. Also, I would make sure
> > to adjust your screen reader to pronounce all punctuation, as this
> > caused me a few problems in the first few modules.
> >
> > CJD
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw
> >> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I had this program my 1L year. My memory is that the pre-test is
> >> accessible, but none of the actual lessons are. Fortunately, I scored
> >> high enough on the pretest that my legal writing instructor waived
> >> the requirement. But, she also dropped a note to the creator at the
> >> time encouraging the implementation of accessibility features. I'm
> >> disappointed to hear her requests were ignored.
> >>
> >> My best advice is to try to work out an alternative for each of the
> >> lessons with your instructor. In the meantime, you could also sign
> >> this petition and distribute it to your friends demanding that
> >> President Obama order the DOJ to release the regulations which would
> >> apply the ADA to the internet.
> >> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-us-department-justic
> >> e-promptly-release-ada-internet-regulations
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/4/16, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org <blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org>
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> >>>
> >>>   1. Re: Completely accessible multifunction printer pricing.
> >>>      (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
> >>>   2. Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (krista erickson)
> >>>   3. Re: Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (Tai Tomasi)
> >>>   4. Re: Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (Aimee Harwood)
> >>>   5. Re: Completely accessible multifunction printer pricing.
> >>>      (Luis Mendez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:48:09 -0700
> >>> From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
> >>>    <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
> >>> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Completely accessible multifunction printer
> >>>    pricing.
> >>> Message-ID: <ECC88EB0E34D469F942D65474FA8AF4D at victory2>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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> >>> Wow, Tai, you beat me to it!  Whilst I may like this printer, the
> >>> price is out of the ballpark presently.  I hope a cheaper module
> >>> with the accessibility hooks will be in the works soonest.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Olusegun
> >>> Denver, Colorado
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:02:13 -0600
> >>> From: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
> >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>
> >>> <CAKHnX9QpbVxRtW7cQXd8ONPKynZzaPMb1YA62A8_LbonXrxh7w at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
> >>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my
> >>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class,
> >>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a
> >>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
> >>> www.coregrammar.com.
> >>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am
> >>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11
> >>> and JAWS 17)? If you have, could you please let me know how you
> >>> completed the lesson exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
> >>> Krista
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:13:49 +0000
> >>> From: Tai Tomasi <TTomasi at driowa.org>
> >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for
> >>> Lawyers
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>
> >>> <3C03C4556E00E849909020A575494CCAF325A5 at DSM-SBS.disabilityright.loca
> >>> l>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>> I haven't used this software, but I took a quick look at the
> >>> website. I would contact Firestream Media and Claudia Fulshaw Design
> >>> and encourage them to make this software WCAG 2.0 compliant. WCAG
> >>> stands for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. Google it for more
> >>> information.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
> >>> Staff Attorney
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
> >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
> >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
> >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
> >>> E-mail: tomasi at driowa.org
> >>> www.driowa.org
> >>>
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> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> krista erickson via blindlaw
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:02 AM
> >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >>> Cc: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
> >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
> >>>
> >>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
> >>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my
> >>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class,
> >>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a
> >>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
> >>> www.coregrammar.com.
> >>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am
> >>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11
> >>> and JAWS 17)?
> >>> If
> >>> you have, could you please let me know how you completed the lesson
> >>> exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
> >>> Krista
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 4
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:33:27 -0500
> >>> From: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for
> >>> Lawyers
> >>> Message-ID: <AC107BCE-66FE-462C-8137-53E27D4F29E6 at gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> >>>
> >>> For an idea in the interim, if you have access to an iPad, I had
> >>> better luck on that platform probably because it used the mobile
> >>> site.
> >>>
> >>> Aimee
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Tai Tomasi via blindlaw
> >>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't used this software, but I took a quick look at the
> >>>> website. I would contact Firestream Media and Claudia Fulshaw
> >>>> Design and encourage them to make this software WCAG 2.0 compliant.
> >>>> WCAG stands for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. Google it for
> >>>> more information.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
> >>>> Staff Attorney
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
> >>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
> >>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
> >>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
> >>>> E-mail: tomasi at driowa.org
> >>>> www.driowa.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of
> >>>> Iowans with disabilities
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> krista erickson via blindlaw
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:02 AM
> >>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >>>> Cc: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
> >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
> >>>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my
> >>>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class,
> >>>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a
> >>>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
> >>>> www.coregrammar.com.
> >>>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am
> >>>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11
> >>>> and JAWS 17)?
> >>>> If
> >>>> you have, could you please let me know how you completed the lesson
> >>>> exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
> >>>> Krista
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 5
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:49:16 -0500
> >>> From: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Completely accessible multifunction printer
> >>>    pricing.
> >>> Message-ID: <5726578C-C9E1-40FA-BAA5-2BC5A1191930 at gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for sharing this information.  Definitely out of my price
> >>> range for now.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tai Tomasi via blindlaw
> >>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> My representative gives me the following pricing information. I
> >>>> have been told that there may be a model with this functionality
> >>>> for somewhere around $1400. See the below message.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
> >>>> Staff Attorney
> >>>> Disability Rights Iowa
> >>>> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
> >>>> errors.
> >>>>
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Andy Stevens
> >>>> <astevens at kochbrothers.com<mailto:astevens at kochbrothers.com>>
> >>>> Date: February 1, 2016 at 2:19:38 PM CST
> >>>> To: 'Tai Tomasi' <TTomasi at driowa.org<mailto:TTomasi at driowa.org>>
> >>>> Subject: Koch Brothers - Samsung Pricing
> >>>>
> >>>> Tai,
> >>>>
> >>>> I gave you a price on your model that starts the line and is 25
> >>>> pages per minute and then a price on the 60 pages per minute
> >>>> machine to give you a range of price on this line.
> >>>>
> >>>> The 25 page per minute machine with no accessories just a stand
> >>>> would be around $79.00 a month on a lease.  The purchase price
> >>>> would be around
> >>>> $4,020.00 on that model.
> >>>>
> >>>> The 60 page per minute machine with no accessories just a stand
> >>>> would be around 190.50 a month on a lease.  The purchase price
> >>>> would be around
> >>>> $10,265.00 on that model.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like I said in previous emails these prices are subject to change
> >>>> depending on current vendor contracts and also with adding accessories.
> >>>> If you have any questions please let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> Andy Stevens
> >>>> Territory Account Manager Equipment Division Koch Brothers
> >>>> Office: 515-244-4900
> >>>> Cell: 515-451-4104
> >>>>
> >>>> astevens at kochbrothers.com<mailto:astevens at kochbrothers.com>
> >>>> www.kochbrothers.com<http://www.kochbrothers.com/>
> >>>>
> >>>> [image002]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <image001.jpg>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris K. Stewart
> >> University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016 Senior
> >> Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American
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