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Susan Kelly Susan.Kelly at pima.gov
Wed Oct 26 21:00:44 UTC 2016


I have been dealing with that by opening the completed document in One Note, while I work on the in-progress document in Word - makes it fairly easy to tab between screens.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Melissa Allman via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> That is one of the things I really don't like about Word on the iPad. You cannot have more than one document open at once. I do not know about pages
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>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Can you have several documents open at one time?  How do you switch between them?  Are there any limitations that make using Word or pages on the iPad less useful than on a desktop?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Luis Mendez [mailto:lmendez716 at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 1:24 PM
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>> I use ICloud for which there is a Windows App, One Drive and Dropbox, depending on the workflow.  I recommend storing documents to be accessed for reading on ICloud since they can be accessed with little effort from within Voice dream. I put my Word documents in One Drive, which makes Word the default app for opening them.   I store very large project files on Dropbox. 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:24 AM
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>> How do you get docs from the iPad to your windows laptop?
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>> Daniel K. Beitz
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>> Good morning:
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>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader.  However,  Dragon  still requires  bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge.  I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective. 
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>> Luis:
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>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA? 
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>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great.  However, I  encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro  with both Pages and Word 2016.  In the end I reverted to  a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work.  I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or  NV Access. 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
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>> Question for Elizabeth.  How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer?  Also, do you use a Mack computer as well?  Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
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>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI  48307
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>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
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>> Hi all,
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>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
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>> Best,
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>> Michal
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>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
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>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an  upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.  
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