[blindlaw] Bluebook

Thu Sep 8 17:39:54 UTC 2016

Jameyanne,

As Jim, Kelby and others have said, using JAWS sound schemes is very
helpful. You can choose specific schemes for different applications.
You might try one of the schemes that will indicate attributes, or
attributes and font info. (There are also schemes that indicate color.
This is very helpful when reviewing documents such as redlines created
by document management software, which differ somewhat from
track-changes in Word.) I haven't used different sound schemes with
the online version of the Bluebook, but I have used the online
version, and I found it to be accessible.

I need to play around a bit with attributes on my braille display with
JAWS. I currently use a Braille Edge for work, and I think it may
handle attributes differently than the Focus I used previously, but I
need to spend some time testing this out. Even when the display
doesn't show me attribute information, I find it elhpful to be able to
quickly verify spelling, read a number, or perform other editing
tasks.

Best of luck,

Angie

On 9/8/16, Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> JameyAnne,
> I think you said that you are using an Apex notetaker. It is possible to
> connect that by USB to your computer to have a braille display and get
> formatting (bold italic and so forth)in braille. You may also make a case to
> your vocational  rehabilitation  councilor that you would benefit from a
> dedicated braille display for this purpose. That would take some time, most
> likely, even if successful but you may wish to try it. The speech and sound
> schemes in JAWS also give one auditory ability to edit. I am a long time
> user of braille displays but never have connected one to my computer. For me
> auditory editing works quite well. I did not have access to either method in
> my law school days so many years ago so I am not sure which I would find
> works best. Precision certainly counts in legal research and writing and has
> been suggested, it counts even more in journal, law review or whatever it is
> called these days. I think these probably are the best methods available so
> give one or both a try. Success to you!
> Jim McCarthy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> carlson via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 6:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bluebook
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> Jameyanne,
>
> A couple of things:
>
> 1. You should see if your school will get you a membership to the online
> Bluebook. All of the law students here have access to the online version,
> and requesting that as an accommodation is entirely reasonable.
>
> 2. As above, insert-f will indicate text formatting on the line of the
> cursor; you can also press insert-alt-s and select various schemes for
> different applications. Doing this will let you change what JAWS tells you
> in terms of formatting and other document attributes.
>
> I have found that, though it can be time consuming, using MS Word and JAWS
> to read/edit a paper is definitely doable. I have a notetaker, but rarely
> use it for much of anything at this point unless I need braille. I should
> perhaps become more familiar with using it as a Braille display with JAWS.
>
>
>
> On 9/7/16, Derek Manners via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hey Jamyanne, others may know better, but I'm not aware of any setting.
>>
>> However, you can use insert F to get JAWS to read stuff like bold,
>> italics etc.
>>
>> However, I would honestly use a Braille display if you can get one
>> from Voc Rehab. Using blue book without one is somewhat difficult,
>> editing a paper without one I think would be extremely difficult!
>>
>> Best regards
>> Derek Manners
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you all for the advice. I'm going to try the online version,
>>> since there's a thirty day free trial.
>>> Will JAWS recognize italics/underlining/bold? It usually doesn't tell
>>> me that stuff. Is there a setting I should turn on so it does?
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Jameyanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> kelby carlson via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:30 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: kelby carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bluebook
>>>
>>> A preemptive tip for journal: my journal substitutes bold for small
>>> caps, so perhaps ask your editors if you can do the same, assuming
>>> you make it on.
>>>
>>>> On 9/7/16, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jameyanne,
>>>>
>>>> The online version is easy to navigate with a screen reader. I don’t
>>>> know about other screen readers, but JAWS does a good job
>>>> identifying formatting attributes in the online version with the
>>>> exception of small caps, which you will need to use during your
>>>> second and/or third year of law school if you are on a law journal.
>>>> If you need to figure out what needs to be in small caps and what
>>>> doesn’t, I’m afraid the only nonvisual way to do so independently
>>>> using JAWS is to copy and paste the example(s) into a Word document
>>>> and check that way, as JAWS cannot identify small caps on a web page
>>>> or in a PDF document.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps. Good luck with your studies.
>>>>
>>>> Michal
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>
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