From jty727 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 00:17:28 2017
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:17:28 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers
In-Reply-To: <5FD92C70-6DF4-445C-9537-445A7E3B3E45@driowa.org>
References: <CA+3U9s5_uYrxz+-O+XffEaey3_TePQgMydsyJsMS_6-7K=5CuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BY2PR20MB0181ABDFE386F70D9EA0B023D1B20@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
	<011b01d30a4a$4d5f1150$e81d33f0$@mdtap.org>
	<5FD92C70-6DF4-445C-9537-445A7E3B3E45@driowa.org>
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s7QTq+POO+v65zvL=szXFgwSvAGWGi7Y-Dq_0RAwqeXXg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Tai for your comments & providing the feedback!

Justin

On 7/31/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I'm sorry. My statement has nothing to do with the fact that the printer is
> controlled by an android tablet. However, having my own unit with an android
> tablet allows me to keep all of my documents separate from the main office
> printer which is not controlled by an android tablet. I hope that
> clarifies.
>
> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Tai,
> I see how communicating with your multifunction office machine by use of an
> android tablet increases its accessibility to you. I am having a hard time
> following how this assures the statement you make, "It has the added bonus
> that my documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am
> better able to identify and label which document is which by printing each
> and labeling it as I go," a true statement. Someone could still do a print
> job it seems and you not know whether it was your job or another. What am I
> missing?
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
> via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:02 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Tai Tomasi
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers
>
> Hello. I was the presenter at NABL that mentioned this printer. I also sent
> a message to the list about it. The model I am using is the Samsung M4580
> smart printer which is controlled by an Android tablet that has speech
> capabilities. My office is renting this printer for $20 a month. I am not
> sure what it retails for. It can print, scan and copy but does not have a
> fax machine. My office used the Samsung X7400 for a time and this printer
> also had an Android tablet for controls. The X7400 has fax capabilities. It
> would be worthwhile to investigate which models in the Samsung line use
> Android tablets. I haven't begun to delve into the advanced features of
> these machines. It has been very helpful to have a unit of my own for
> making
> copies, scanning, and printing documents. It has the added bonus that my
> documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am better
> able
> to identify and label which document is which by printing each and labeling
> it as I go. In the past, I had to hope there wasn't a stack of papers at
> the
> main printer everyone shared. Of course, I just had a reader identify them,
> but this new machine has somewhat decreased my reliance on a reader. I say
> that with the caveat that no machine can replace a human reader. Until OCR
> systems can recognize handwriting, human readers will be indispensable.
>
> Tai
>
> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
> Pronouns: she/her/hers
> Staff Attorney
>
>
>
> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Young via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:51 PM
> To: Blind List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com<mailto:jty727 at gmail.com>>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers
>
> Hello All!
>
> Hope this message finds you well!  It was mentioned during the National
> Association of Blind Lawyers meeting that a message was sent awhile ago to
> this mailing list related to Accessible printers through Samson I believe
> it
> was related to using a tablet to make them accessible.  I can't seem to
> find
> that message and was wondering if someone could send me the information
> related to that printer message?
> It sounded very interesting and I wanted to look at it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin Young
>
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue Aug  1 13:13:05 2017
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:13:05 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis
Message-ID: <006a01d30ac7$e9ac01d0$bd040570$@labarrelaw.com>

Greetings, a colleague just asked me how accessible Lexis is with assistive
technology, JAWS etc.  I told her that I did not really have a current sense
of this because I use Westlaw.  So, I put it to my colleagues on this list
and am curious about your experiences with Lexis if that is what you use.
Please feel free to  respond to the list or email me directly.

 

slabarre at labarrelaw.com <mailto:slabarre at labarrelaw.com> 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Scott


From davant1958 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 13:24:21 2017
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (Denise R Avant)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 08:24:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis
In-Reply-To: <006a01d30ac7$e9ac01d0$bd040570$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <006a01d30ac7$e9ac01d0$bd040570$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <A33DB3B5-3FA3-48D4-BE00-37BDD4F07ABD@gmail.com>

I use Lexis on the internet with JAWS. I find it very accessible


Denise R. Avant
President
National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
Live the life you want
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings, a colleague just asked me how accessible Lexis is with assistive
> technology, JAWS etc.  I told her that I did not really have a current sense
> of this because I use Westlaw.  So, I put it to my colleagues on this list
> and am curious about your experiences with Lexis if that is what you use.
> Please feel free to  respond to the list or email me directly.
> 
> 
> 
> slabarre at labarrelaw.com <mailto:slabarre at labarrelaw.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
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From will.burley3 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 13:31:12 2017
From: will.burley3 at gmail.com (Will Burley)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 08:31:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PACER Accessibility
Message-ID: <0F07AF79-E794-4B91-8CBB-AC0CC5CB8456@gmail.com>

Greetings,

I was wondering if anybody could share their experiences using PACER with a screen reader. Is it accessible? Any issues? Thanks for any help…


 
 
Will Burley
Phone:  713-614-3322
 
 
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." -Maya Angelou
 
 

Sent from my iPhone

From jmccarthy at mdtap.org  Tue Aug  1 13:30:54 2017
From: jmccarthy at mdtap.org (Jim McCarthy)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:30:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers
In-Reply-To: <5FD92C70-6DF4-445C-9537-445A7E3B3E45@driowa.org>
References: <CA+3U9s5_uYrxz+-O+XffEaey3_TePQgMydsyJsMS_6-7K=5CuA@mail.gmail.com>	<BY2PR20MB0181ABDFE386F70D9EA0B023D1B20@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>,
	<011b01d30a4a$4d5f1150$e81d33f0$@mdtap.org>
	<5FD92C70-6DF4-445C-9537-445A7E3B3E45@driowa.org>
Message-ID: <013401d30aca$66d6a190$3483e4b0$@mdtap.org>

Ok, I thought that you had full and accessible control of the office unit
but this device is for your use only and you are fully able to control it.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:33 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

I'm sorry. My statement has nothing to do with the fact that the printer is
controlled by an android tablet. However, having my own unit with an android
tablet allows me to keep all of my documents separate from the main office
printer which is not controlled by an android tablet. I hope that clarifies.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Tai,
I see how communicating with your multifunction office machine by use of an
android tablet increases its accessibility to you. I am having a hard time
following how this assures the statement you make, "It has the added bonus
that my documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am
better able to identify and label which document is which by printing each
and labeling it as I go," a true statement. Someone could still do a print
job it seems and you not know whether it was your job or another. What am I
missing?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:02 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

Hello. I was the presenter at NABL that mentioned this printer. I also sent
a message to the list about it. The model I am using is the Samsung M4580
smart printer which is controlled by an Android tablet that has speech
capabilities. My office is renting this printer for $20 a month. I am not
sure what it retails for. It can print, scan and copy but does not have a
fax machine. My office used the Samsung X7400 for a time and this printer
also had an Android tablet for controls. The X7400 has fax capabilities. It
would be worthwhile to investigate which models in the Samsung line use
Android tablets. I haven't begun to delve into the advanced features of
these machines. It has been very helpful to have a unit of my own for making
copies, scanning, and printing documents. It has the added bonus that my
documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am better able
to identify and label which document is which by printing each and labeling
it as I go. In the past, I had to hope there wasn't a stack of papers at the
main printer everyone shared. Of course, I just had a reader identify them,
but this new machine has somewhat decreased my reliance on a reader. I say
that with the caveat that no machine can replace a human reader. Until OCR
systems can recognize handwriting, human readers will be indispensable.

Tai

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin
Young via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:51 PM
To: Blind List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com<mailto:jty727 at gmail.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

Hello All!

Hope this message finds you well!  It was mentioned during the National
Association of Blind Lawyers meeting that a message was sent awhile ago to
this mailing list related to Accessible printers through Samson I believe it
was related to using a tablet to make them accessible.  I can't seem to find
that message and was wondering if someone could send me the information
related to that printer message?
It sounded very interesting and I wanted to look at it.

Thanks,

Justin Young

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Tue Aug  1 13:44:34 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 13:44:34 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers
In-Reply-To: <013401d30aca$66d6a190$3483e4b0$@mdtap.org>
References: <CA+3U9s5_uYrxz+-O+XffEaey3_TePQgMydsyJsMS_6-7K=5CuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BY2PR20MB0181ABDFE386F70D9EA0B023D1B20@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>,
	<011b01d30a4a$4d5f1150$e81d33f0$@mdtap.org>
	<5FD92C70-6DF4-445C-9537-445A7E3B3E45@driowa.org>
	<013401d30aca$66d6a190$3483e4b0$@mdtap.org>
Message-ID: <BY2PR20MB01818170ABC058905550ED93D1B30@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Prior to having the M4580 for my use, our office did have an accessible unit with Android. However, it was difficutl to turn speech on and off on the fly and my colleagues had trouble operating the unit using the alternate touch commands required by the screen reader, so we switched back to the old familiar unit they had been using prior.  

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:31 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jim McCarthy <jmccarthy at mdtap.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

Ok, I thought that you had full and accessible control of the office unit but this device is for your use only and you are fully able to control it.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:33 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

I'm sorry. My statement has nothing to do with the fact that the printer is controlled by an android tablet. However, having my own unit with an android tablet allows me to keep all of my documents separate from the main office printer which is not controlled by an android tablet. I hope that clarifies.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Tai,
I see how communicating with your multifunction office machine by use of an android tablet increases its accessibility to you. I am having a hard time following how this assures the statement you make, "It has the added bonus that my documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am better able to identify and label which document is which by printing each and labeling it as I go," a true statement. Someone could still do a print job it seems and you not know whether it was your job or another. What am I missing?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:02 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

Hello. I was the presenter at NABL that mentioned this printer. I also sent a message to the list about it. The model I am using is the Samsung M4580 smart printer which is controlled by an Android tablet that has speech capabilities. My office is renting this printer for $20 a month. I am not sure what it retails for. It can print, scan and copy but does not have a fax machine. My office used the Samsung X7400 for a time and this printer also had an Android tablet for controls. The X7400 has fax capabilities. It would be worthwhile to investigate which models in the Samsung line use Android tablets. I haven't begun to delve into the advanced features of these machines. It has been very helpful to have a unit of my own for making copies, scanning, and printing documents. It has the added bonus that my documents are always kept separate from those of others, so I am better able to identify and label which document is which by printing each and labeling it as I go. In the past, I had to hope there wasn't a stack of papers at the main printer everyone shared. Of course, I just had a reader identify them, but this new machine has somewhat decreased my reliance on a reader. I say that with the caveat that no machine can replace a human reader. Until OCR systems can recognize handwriting, human readers will be indispensable.

Tai

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:51 PM
To: Blind List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com<mailto:jty727 at gmail.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Multifunctioning printers

Hello All!

Hope this message finds you well!  It was mentioned during the National Association of Blind Lawyers meeting that a message was sent awhile ago to this mailing list related to Accessible printers through Samson I believe it was related to using a tablet to make them accessible.  I can't seem to find that message and was wondering if someone could send me the information related to that printer message?
It sounded very interesting and I wanted to look at it.

Thanks,

Justin Young

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From mnowicki4 at icloud.com  Wed Aug  2 02:25:20 2017
From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 21:25:20 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis
In-Reply-To: <A33DB3B5-3FA3-48D4-BE00-37BDD4F07ABD@gmail.com>
References: <006a01d30ac7$e9ac01d0$bd040570$@labarrelaw.com>
	<A33DB3B5-3FA3-48D4-BE00-37BDD4F07ABD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0OU100BSZDE64K10@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com>

I also find Lexis accessible with JAWS, but Westlaw is easier to navigate. As for the iOS apps, however, I definitely prefer Lexis over Westlaw.

Michal

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Denise R Avant via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Denise R Avant
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis

I use Lexis on the internet with JAWS. I find it very accessible


Denise R. Avant
President
National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
Live the life you want
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings, a colleague just asked me how accessible Lexis is with assistive
> technology, JAWS etc.  I told her that I did not really have a current sense
> of this because I use Westlaw.  So, I put it to my colleagues on this list
> and am curious about your experiences with Lexis if that is what you use.
> Please feel free to  respond to the list or email me directly.
> 
> 
> 
> slabarre at labarrelaw.com <mailto:slabarre at labarrelaw.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed Aug  2 03:20:03 2017
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 23:20:03 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis
In-Reply-To: <0OU100BSZDE64K10@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com>
References: <006a01d30ac7$e9ac01d0$bd040570$@labarrelaw.com>
	<A33DB3B5-3FA3-48D4-BE00-37BDD4F07ABD@gmail.com>
	<0OU100BSZDE64K10@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com>
Message-ID: <08115220-29AE-4E75-A8B3-B3CDC6234958@comcast.net>

I think the question here is why is one more accessible than the other what can josh do better on Lexus that he can on Westlaw,
Or vice versa.
This is a great discussion I am just hoping that you guys shared more technical light on the subject for instance does jazz go through the head no it's better Alexis them Weslock is it easier to find the key so beside versus the shepherd is Asian how about more cases like this how about the Cappio

contact information
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Email: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net


> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I also find Lexis accessible with JAWS, but Westlaw is easier to navigate. As for the iOS apps, however, I definitely prefer Lexis over Westlaw.
> 
> Michal
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Denise R Avant via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Denise R Avant
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Experience with Lexis
> 
> I use Lexis on the internet with JAWS. I find it very accessible
> 
> 
> Denise R. Avant
> President
> National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
> Live the life you want
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings, a colleague just asked me how accessible Lexis is with assistive
>> technology, JAWS etc.  I told her that I did not really have a current sense
>> of this because I use Westlaw.  So, I put it to my colleagues on this list
>> and am curious about your experiences with Lexis if that is what you use.
>> Please feel free to  respond to the list or email me directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> slabarre at labarrelaw.com <mailto:slabarre at labarrelaw.com> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Wed Aug  2 14:08:51 2017
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 14:08:51 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Practicing law with a Mac
Message-ID: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D651FA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>

Has anyone had significant experience using an apple Mac in their practice.  Are docs created in pages 100% compatible with Word for windows?

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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Aug  2 14:24:33 2017
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 08:24:33 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey
Message-ID: <008a01d30b9b$0fd4b130$2f7e1390$@labarrelaw.com>

I am reposting Anne Naber's  message below.  The survey should still be open
and I highly encourage everyone to fill it out.  

 

Thanks so much!

 

Scott LaBarre

 

Hello all,

 

My name is Anne Naber, and I am an accessibility specialist for the Legal
Division of Thomson Reuters. We are conducting a 22-question survey about
the accessibility of Thomson Reuters Westlaw and also want to gather
information about the overall accessibility of web content. The survey
should take about 10 minutes to complete. 

Although this survey contains information specifically about Westlaw, please
feel free to forward to anyone who might be interested in answering the
general questions in the survey. The survey is open now and will close on
July 1st. 

This survey is anonymous. If you would like to participate in future surveys
or are willing to be contacted directly, please email Anne Naber at
accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com
<mailto:accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com>  and let us know you
would like to be added to the list of customers who are interested in having
continued and direct input about our products. We want our products to be
highly usable and accessible for all our customers, so additional user
feedback is extremely important to us. It is your feedback that will help
guide our accessibility efforts, and we cannot stress how important your
participation is to us.

 

Thank you in advance for your time. We value your input immensely, and will
use the information gathered to help us align our accessibility efforts with
our customers' usage and needs.

Below is the link to the survey.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/99SY376

 

Anne Naber

Legal UX- accessibility specialist

651-687-6214

anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com <mailto:anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com> 

 

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From al.elia at aol.com  Wed Aug  2 14:31:14 2017
From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:31:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Practicing law with a Mac
In-Reply-To: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D651FA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D651FA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
Message-ID: <01942C18-DE40-4D8B-BE6F-CF968A18B32C@aol.com>

Yes to the first question. I don't know to the second. Using a mac makes 
it very difficult to collaborate with other attorneys who use Windows, 
primarily because VoiceOver support in MS word for Mac is not yet ready 
for primetime.

If you are already familiar with Windows and a Windows screenreader, I 
would recommend sticking with that for the time being, though it pains 
me to say that. I only use a Mac and VoiceOver because I've been using 
them for a decade, and am faster using them even with the limitations. I 
still have Windows running under VMWare, though, because there are 
things that currently require Windows (like dealing with tracked changes 
reasonably).




On 2 Aug 2017, at 10:08, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote:

> Has anyone had significant experience using an apple Mac in their 
> practice.  Are docs created in pages 100% compatible with Word for 
> windows?
>
> [New WG logo 4]
>
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com<mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>
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From chris.stewart at uky.edu  Wed Aug  2 14:38:38 2017
From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 09:38:38 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Lexis and Pacer
Message-ID: <CAAyF1PD_hdkPJjSy1v5rqRwFyVGoGd_+Mqn6j4Qxna0+uM6XTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I'm responding to the digest and will address both Scott and Will's
topics: the accessibility of LexisNexis and Pacer.

First, I've not needed to use Pacer because we have access to CM ECF,
but I've visited the website to familiarize myself with it. The
structure is very navigable with JAWS, and unless there are problems
with the payment process, I don't think it presents any accessibility
issues.

Second, I use both Westlaw and Lexis. I prefer Westlaw, but the Judge
I clerk for uses Lexis, so I often find myself using it when he sends
me cases to read. I've found Lexis to have a ton of features, and I've
never had an access problem with any of them. Having said that, I
almost feel like there are too many features to make screenreader
access as efficient as legal research should be. I'm sure if I were to
get a job where my employer only had Lexis, I would quickly learn the
layout and become as efficient with it as I am with Westlaw, but I
think Westlaw is, at least initially, more intuitive for screenreader
users.

Best,
Chris


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Aug  2 14:42:38 2017
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 08:42:38 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey
In-Reply-To: <008a01d30b9b$0fd4b130$2f7e1390$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <008a01d30b9b$0fd4b130$2f7e1390$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <009f01d30b9d$969e15b0$c3da4110$@labarrelaw.com>

Folks, I have in fact confirmed that the survey is still there and active
because I just took it.  I also encourage you to send an email to Anne or
the email address she lists to take part in future research efforts.  I
think Thomson Reuters has done a very nice job with Westlaw but we can
always improve it and we can start addressing other products they offer.
Thanks to everyone for helping  out!

Best,
Scott 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:25 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Scott C. Labarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey

I am reposting Anne Naber's  message below.  The survey should still be open
and I highly encourage everyone to fill it out.  

 

Thanks so much!

 

Scott LaBarre

 

Hello all,

 

My name is Anne Naber, and I am an accessibility specialist for the Legal
Division of Thomson Reuters. We are conducting a 22-question survey about
the accessibility of Thomson Reuters Westlaw and also want to gather
information about the overall accessibility of web content. The survey
should take about 10 minutes to complete. 

Although this survey contains information specifically about Westlaw, please
feel free to forward to anyone who might be interested in answering the
general questions in the survey. The survey is open now and will close on
July 1st. 

This survey is anonymous. If you would like to participate in future surveys
or are willing to be contacted directly, please email Anne Naber at
accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com
<mailto:accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com>  and let us know you
would like to be added to the list of customers who are interested in having
continued and direct input about our products. We want our products to be
highly usable and accessible for all our customers, so additional user
feedback is extremely important to us. It is your feedback that will help
guide our accessibility efforts, and we cannot stress how important your
participation is to us.

 

Thank you in advance for your time. We value your input immensely, and will
use the information gathered to help us align our accessibility efforts with
our customers' usage and needs.

Below is the link to the survey.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/99SY376

 

Anne Naber

Legal UX- accessibility specialist

651-687-6214

anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com <mailto:anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com> 

 

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Wed Aug  2 15:53:17 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 15:53:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Practicing law with a Mac
In-Reply-To: <01942C18-DE40-4D8B-BE6F-CF968A18B32C@aol.com>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D651FA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>,
	<01942C18-DE40-4D8B-BE6F-CF968A18B32C@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A203C6F7-D8FE-4D63-BEAB-5B9A5EDA5CDA@driowa.org>

I have experience with using the Mac for legal work and I have to agree with Al.


Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Aug 2, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Al Elia via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Yes to the first question. I don't know to the second. Using a mac makes it very difficult to collaborate with other attorneys who use Windows, primarily because VoiceOver support in MS word for Mac is not yet ready for primetime.

If you are already familiar with Windows and a Windows screenreader, I would recommend sticking with that for the time being, though it pains me to say that. I only use a Mac and VoiceOver because I've been using them for a decade, and am faster using them even with the limitations. I still have Windows running under VMWare, though, because there are things that currently require Windows (like dealing with tracked changes reasonably).




On 2 Aug 2017, at 10:08, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote:

Has anyone had significant experience using an apple Mac in their practice.  Are docs created in pages 100% compatible with Word for windows?

[New WG logo 4]

Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
Fax:  (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com<mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com><mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com>

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From lmendez716 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 16:05:55 2017
From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 12:05:55 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Practicing law with a Mac
In-Reply-To: <A203C6F7-D8FE-4D63-BEAB-5B9A5EDA5CDA@driowa.org>
References: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D651FA@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>,
	<01942C18-DE40-4D8B-BE6F-CF968A18B32C@aol.com>
	<A203C6F7-D8FE-4D63-BEAB-5B9A5EDA5CDA@driowa.org>
Message-ID: <008c01d30ba9$399dfc70$acd9f550$@gmail.com>

Good morning:

I reluctantly switched from a Mac back to Windows  because I  found MS  Word
for the Mac difficult to use efficiently with Voiceover.  I also found
working with PDF documents  and scanning software more time consuming.  That
being said,  my experience may have reflected my choice  not to invest the
additional time  and resources, including loss of billable  hours, it might
have taken to  master the challenges I was encountering.

Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:53 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Practicing law with a Mac

I have experience with using the Mac for legal work and I have to agree with
Al.


Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Aug 2, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Al Elia via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Yes to the first question. I don't know to the second. Using a mac makes it
very difficult to collaborate with other attorneys who use Windows,
primarily because VoiceOver support in MS word for Mac is not yet ready for
primetime.

If you are already familiar with Windows and a Windows screenreader, I would
recommend sticking with that for the time being, though it pains me to say
that. I only use a Mac and VoiceOver because I've been using them for a
decade, and am faster using them even with the limitations. I still have
Windows running under VMWare, though, because there are things that
currently require Windows (like dealing with tracked changes reasonably).




On 2 Aug 2017, at 10:08, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote:

Has anyone had significant experience using an apple Mac in their practice.
Are docs created in pages 100% compatible with Word for windows?

[New WG logo 4]

Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
Fax:  (248) 652-2729
dbeitz at wiennergould.com<mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com><mailto:dbeitz at wienne
rgould.com>

www.wiennergould.com<http://www.wiennergould.com><http://www.wiennergould.co
m/>

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Aug  4 16:19:11 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:19:11 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies Update - Western District of
 Washington!
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Aug  4 17:38:03 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:38:03 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Office of Developmental Disabilities (a project of
 Disability Rights Washington) Legal Counsel and Regional Developmental
 Disabilities Ombuds position Seattle
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From: Jodi Rose [mailto:jodir at dr-wa.org]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:32 AM
Subject: Job Listing - Please Share with your Minority Bar Association members.

Hello,

Office of Developmental Disabilities Ombuds (a project of Disability Rights Washington) has a position open. Please share with anyone who may be interested!

http://www.disabilityrightswa.org/now-hiring-legal-counsel-and-regional-developmental-disabilities-ombuds

Thank you,

Jodi Rose
Executive Assistant
Pronouns: she/her/hers

Disability Rights Washington
315 5th Avenue S, Suite 850 | Seattle, WA 98104

voice: 206.324.1521 or 800.562.2702 | fax: 206.957.0729
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Aug  4 21:24:28 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:24:28 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: WA AGO - Attorney Employment Opportunities / Open
 Houses
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From: Linda Nakamura [mailto:LindaP2 at atg.wa.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Diversity Stakeholders
Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] WA AGO - Attorney Employment Opportunities / Open Houses


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At the Washington State Attorney General's Office, we aspire to be the best public law office in the nation.  We are committed to providing excellent, independent, and ethical legal services to the State of Washington and to protecting the rights of its people.  It is essential to our mission to create and maintain an office that is diverse, respectful, inclusive and composed of the best legal talent available.

If you share our vision and have a desire to do important work that makes a difference for our community, then we invite you to consider applying for the following Assistant Attorney General opportunities.



Assistant Attorney General (Division Chief) - Complex Litigation Division in Seattle or in Olympia<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1803354/division-chief-sr-asst-attorney-general-complex-litigation-division-in-seatt>  (DL:  8/8/17)

Assistant Attorney General (Section Chief) - Torts Division's Early Resolution/Investigations in Olympia/Tumwater<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1808865/assistant-attorney-general-torts-division-in-olympia>  (DL:  8/14/17)

Assistant Attorney General - Torts Division's Transportation Team in Olympia/Tumwater<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1810103/assistant-attorney-general-torts-division-in-olympia-tumwater?department%5b0%5d=Attorney%20General's%20Office&sort=PostingDate%7CAscending&page=2&pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs> (DL: 8/15/17)

Assistant Attorney General (Section Chief) - Licensing & Administrative Law Division in Olympia<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1815375/assistant-attorney-general-sc-licensing-administrative-law-division-in-olym?department%5b0%5d=Attorney%20General's%20Office&sort=PositionTitle%7CAscending&pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs>  (DL:  8/27/17)

If you are a third-year law student or a qualified judicial clerk, the Office is currently accepting applications for consideration via its Honors Program  (DL - varies, see posting for details)<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1641375/assistant-attorney-general-2017-honors-program?department%5b0%5d=Attorney%20General's%20Office&sort=PositionTitle%7CAscending&page=1&pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs>

Finally, the Washington State Attorney General's Office is pleased to invite to you to attend either/both of its upcoming Open Houses.  One will be held on August 9th in the Tumwater AGO, and the other on September 29th in the Spokane AGO.  Details about each are included in the attached flyers.
Diversity is critical to the success of the mission of the AGO. It is the recognition, respect, and appreciation of all cultures and backgrounds and the fostering of the inclusion of differences between people. Appreciating, valuing and implementing principles of diversity permits AGO employees to achieve their fullest potential in an inclusive, respectful environment. The core values of the AGO are served by a strong commitment to the value of diversity and by promoting an inclusive workplace. The AGO is an equal opportunity employer and does not discriminate on the basis of race, creed, color, national origin, sex, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity diversity, age, honorably discharged veteran, veteran status, or the presence of any sensory, mental or physical disability or the use of a trained dog guide or service animal by a person with a disability. Persons requiring reasonable accommodation in the application process or requiring any information in an alternative format may contact Tracy Robinson at 360-586-7693 or Washington Relay Service at 1-800-676-3777 or www.washingtonrelay.com<http://www.washingtonrelay.com>.


Linda Nakamura
Linda Nakamura
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Washington State Attorney General's Office
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 11:28:06 2017
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:58:06 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
Message-ID: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well. While I am able to read most
documents independently after converting them into an accessible
format, I have to rely on sighted assistance from time to time.
This is obviously the case when handwritten documents are involved,
but also when the quality of the converted documents is not so good as
to enable me to decipher some pieces of information such as dates of
events or the page numbers of the written submissions on which the
annexures I need can be found.
In this respect, I was wondering if any of you could comment on: (1)
the principles that you adopt to decide when you want to rely on a
sighted reader as opposed to using assistive technology; and (2) for
those of you who work in a law firm, have you formally asked the firm
to make someone available to you for this purpose, or does this work
on an ad hoc basis?
Further, is your sighted reader generally an intern, a secretary or
someone else?

Best,
Rahul


From angie.matney at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 12:11:32 2017
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:11:32 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Rahul, 

I work at a firm with about 80 attorneys. This has generally been something my secretary does. as you point out, it isn't necessary if you have a clean OCR result, but that doesn't always happen. 

As for when I ask for assistance, I do it whenever it is the most efficient way to do what I need to do for the client. This is true of some other tasks as well. As an example, our document management software produces blackline comparison documents that are generally quite accessible, but even with JAWS set to a fast speed and using features like text analyzer, there are times when it is more efficient for me to ask my secretary to either go through the changes in the document with me, or tell me which sections have been modified. 

I also always have her check formatting and other aspects of my documents before sending them to colleagues or clients. I know there are ways to access this information, but I find it invaluable when she fixes things I might not have noticed, or adjusts the spacing between lines because it looks better, or does something similar. 

I believe it is incumbent upon me to produce the highest quality work product I can, so as to reflect well upon myself and on my firm. This means using my secretary differently than some other attorneys. On the flip side, I never hand her a marked-up printout full of handwritten notes asking her to make changes to a document, as a number of my colleagues do. 

I am in a small office, and my secretary works for me and one other attorney. This other attorney is probably the busiest partner in our office, so while some assistants at our firm have three attorneys, I think the firm would hesitate to give her a third attorney. This is partly because of the partner I mentioned, and possibly partly because of what they understand about how she and I work together. Having said that, she is far from the only secretary with only two attorneys. My perception is that the firm has not had cause over the last 7 years to feel that the way I use my secretary is especially problematic or even especially different from what others do. 

I realize that every work situation is different. I think I am fortunate to have the type of access to my secretary that I have at my firm. 

Sorry for this long ramble. Hope at least parts of it made sense. 

Angie



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well. While I am able to read most
> documents independently after converting them into an accessible
> format, I have to rely on sighted assistance from time to time.
> This is obviously the case when handwritten documents are involved,
> but also when the quality of the converted documents is not so good as
> to enable me to decipher some pieces of information such as dates of
> events or the page numbers of the written submissions on which the
> annexures I need can be found.
> In this respect, I was wondering if any of you could comment on: (1)
> the principles that you adopt to decide when you want to rely on a
> sighted reader as opposed to using assistive technology; and (2) for
> those of you who work in a law firm, have you formally asked the firm
> to make someone available to you for this purpose, or does this work
> on an ad hoc basis?
> Further, is your sighted reader generally an intern, a secretary or
> someone else?
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Sat Aug  5 13:50:18 2017
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:50:18 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] using a scribe
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38836EA108DB427A91BE7BA0B5783FF2@UserHP>

hey guys:

I am asking about using a scribe for taking a final in my first year of law 
school;
I have a final coming up this Tuesday eve, and the school is generously 
offering a scribe.
First of all, what does a scribe specifically do for us?
It is my understanding that such person will take dictation from me and 
handwrite it onto an exam bluebook or paper?
How litteral do I have to be with such a person when issuing dictation?
Has anyone use a scribe in either an academic setting such as on a final? 
or?
has anyone used a scribe in actual practice?
(if so, can one please explain the pro's and con's of using such a person?)?

Please advise further?

Mike M.



From NSingh at cov.com  Sat Aug  5 18:22:39 2017
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:22:39 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZ0XiW6nfz55=OicfNb_i_rvq7gaY22k6-FreK6x=ji3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6488900921f4f159b8ed448a6341f2c@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>

I work at a large firm and still use human readers, who are usually one of my two secretaries (two secretaries serve about 10-12 attorneys). Use of a human reader is a matter of efficiency for me, the firm, and the client. My secretaries most often read small administrative documents that are not worth OCR-ing, handwritten documents, some date and signature lines, and any sort of online form that has graphical elements.

Much like Angie, I also task my secretaries and our document support services personnel to check my formatting and, when necessary, to apply the firm styles for formal documents. I do feel like I have a strong command of the JAWS keystrokes to perform formatting steps independently, but I appreciate having a visual once-over to correct anything I might have missed or to improve general spacing and alignment aesthetics that would not always strike me.

Our document support services people can also retype handwritten documents into Word documents. I had to do this for a pro bono case where the other side was a pro se plaintiff.

The other place where I use readers relates to accessing our Ediscovery platform. This is inaccessible using JAWS, so I often locate a paralegal or a litigation support services personnel (usually assigned to the matter) to run document searches that I supply them. Once I understand the number of hits of each search, communicated through email, I ask the paralegal or LSS tech to print the documents as PDFs and save them to my working folder.

I have not worked at my firm long, but I know the attorneys here have a range of working styles and habits. Some of the more old school types even request a secretary to dial the number at the start of conference calls! I have not perceived that my requests of secretaries, paralegals, and other support staff are out of the ordinary. All that being said, my firm has a ton of resources, and I am grateful that I can make use of all of them. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Nikki

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:28 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Rahul Bajaj
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well. While I am able to read most
documents independently after converting them into an accessible
format, I have to rely on sighted assistance from time to time.
This is obviously the case when handwritten documents are involved,
but also when the quality of the converted documents is not so good as
to enable me to decipher some pieces of information such as dates of
events or the page numbers of the written submissions on which the
annexures I need can be found.
In this respect, I was wondering if any of you could comment on: (1)
the principles that you adopt to decide when you want to rely on a
sighted reader as opposed to using assistive technology; and (2) for
those of you who work in a law firm, have you formally asked the firm
to make someone available to you for this purpose, or does this work
on an ad hoc basis?
Further, is your sighted reader generally an intern, a secretary or
someone else?

Best,
Rahul

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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 23:26:35 2017
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 19:26:35 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
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My firm has also re-typed handwritten documents on occasion. I forgot to add that they have done this, as well as created editable Word versions of documents, for other attorneys in the firm who need to be able to revise something that we receivd as a PDF or in another format. Again, I don't think that the way I use my secretary is all that unusual at the end of the day. I also sometimes ask her to add appointments to my callendar or to add contacts for me in Outlook, but my sighted colleagues ask their assistants to do this too. (I sometimes do these things, but sometimes it is more efficient to ask her to do it.) 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I work at a large firm and still use human readers, who are usually one of my two secretaries (two secretaries serve about 10-12 attorneys). Use of a human reader is a matter of efficiency for me, the firm, and the client. My secretaries most often read small administrative documents that are not worth OCR-ing, handwritten documents, some date and signature lines, and any sort of online form that has graphical elements.
> 
> Much like Angie, I also task my secretaries and our document support services personnel to check my formatting and, when necessary, to apply the firm styles for formal documents. I do feel like I have a strong command of the JAWS keystrokes to perform formatting steps independently, but I appreciate having a visual once-over to correct anything I might have missed or to improve general spacing and alignment aesthetics that would not always strike me.
> 
> Our document support services people can also retype handwritten documents into Word documents. I had to do this for a pro bono case where the other side was a pro se plaintiff.
> 
> The other place where I use readers relates to accessing our Ediscovery platform. This is inaccessible using JAWS, so I often locate a paralegal or a litigation support services personnel (usually assigned to the matter) to run document searches that I supply them. Once I understand the number of hits of each search, communicated through email, I ask the paralegal or LSS tech to print the documents as PDFs and save them to my working folder.
> 
> I have not worked at my firm long, but I know the attorneys here have a range of working styles and habits. Some of the more old school types even request a secretary to dial the number at the start of conference calls! I have not perceived that my requests of secretaries, paralegals, and other support staff are out of the ordinary. All that being said, my firm has a ton of resources, and I am grateful that I can make use of all of them. Hope this helps.
> 
> Regards,
> Nikki
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:28 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
> Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well. While I am able to read most
> documents independently after converting them into an accessible
> format, I have to rely on sighted assistance from time to time.
> This is obviously the case when handwritten documents are involved,
> but also when the quality of the converted documents is not so good as
> to enable me to decipher some pieces of information such as dates of
> events or the page numbers of the written submissions on which the
> annexures I need can be found.
> In this respect, I was wondering if any of you could comment on: (1)
> the principles that you adopt to decide when you want to rely on a
> sighted reader as opposed to using assistive technology; and (2) for
> those of you who work in a law firm, have you formally asked the firm
> to make someone available to you for this purpose, or does this work
> on an ad hoc basis?
> Further, is your sighted reader generally an intern, a secretary or
> someone else?
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 07:43:18 2017
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 13:13:18 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
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	<8033B758-7401-42FD-890D-FC550B16BB0F@gmail.com>
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Thank you, Angie and Nandini. Your suggestions are very helpful.
I recently joined a law firm, so I am still developing coping
strategies to work as effectively and efficiently as my sighted
colleagues. One great resource that you have access to as an employee
of a large Indian law firm is legal interns. I often take their help
in reading documents, getting handwritten documents converted into an
accessible format by getting them typed, formatting documents
correctly, etc.

Like the two of you, I don't feel that, in the larger scheme of
things, my demands or needs are out of the ordinary. A lot of partners
at our firm, and in fact at most firms, still prefer reading documents
in hard copy, so they get them printed. What I ask for is generally
the reverse -- that's the only difference.

While this strategy works great most of the time, since I seek help on
an ad hoc basis, I am sometimes not able to deliver the end product as
expeditiously as I'd like to because interns aren't always immediately
available to help me. This being the case, I was wondering if I should
ask my firm to assign someone to help me with these kinds of things,
so as to transform this from an ad hoc arrangement into something more
permanent.

Further, one related question that I have for you is this: Over a
period of time, have you discovered that there are certain kinds of
tasks that are particularly hard for you to perform as a blind
attorney. If so, have you apprised your firm of this fact, and what
has their response to the same been like?
For instance, I find that I am able to perform tasks that require
greater intellectual ability such as drafting and research more
efficiently than tasks such as preparing a synopsis/list of dates
because I have to seek sighted assistance for obtaining some pieces of
information in case of the latter.
In other words, I have no difficulty converting large 200-300 page
documents into an accessible format and taking all other steps that I
need to in order to perform a meaningful task effectively, but when
the task is of a somewhat clerical nature, I sometimes feel that
converting everything into an accessible format and seeking sighted
assistance is not really a worthwhile exercise because someone with a
functioning pair of eyes can obviously do it much faster.
Does that make sense?

Best,
Rahul





On 06/08/2017, Angie Matney via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My firm has also re-typed handwritten documents on occasion. I forgot to add
> that they have done this, as well as created editable Word versions of
> documents, for other attorneys in the firm who need to be able to revise
> something that we receivd as a PDF or in another format. Again, I don't
> think that the way I use my secretary is all that unusual at the end of the
> day. I also sometimes ask her to add appointments to my callendar or to add
> contacts for me in Outlook, but my sighted colleagues ask their assistants
> to do this too. (I sometimes do these things, but sometimes it is more
> efficient to ask her to do it.)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I work at a large firm and still use human readers, who are usually one of
>> my two secretaries (two secretaries serve about 10-12 attorneys). Use of a
>> human reader is a matter of efficiency for me, the firm, and the client.
>> My secretaries most often read small administrative documents that are not
>> worth OCR-ing, handwritten documents, some date and signature lines, and
>> any sort of online form that has graphical elements.
>>
>> Much like Angie, I also task my secretaries and our document support
>> services personnel to check my formatting and, when necessary, to apply
>> the firm styles for formal documents. I do feel like I have a strong
>> command of the JAWS keystrokes to perform formatting steps independently,
>> but I appreciate having a visual once-over to correct anything I might
>> have missed or to improve general spacing and alignment aesthetics that
>> would not always strike me.
>>
>> Our document support services people can also retype handwritten documents
>> into Word documents. I had to do this for a pro bono case where the other
>> side was a pro se plaintiff.
>>
>> The other place where I use readers relates to accessing our Ediscovery
>> platform. This is inaccessible using JAWS, so I often locate a paralegal
>> or a litigation support services personnel (usually assigned to the
>> matter) to run document searches that I supply them. Once I understand the
>> number of hits of each search, communicated through email, I ask the
>> paralegal or LSS tech to print the documents as PDFs and save them to my
>> working folder.
>>
>> I have not worked at my firm long, but I know the attorneys here have a
>> range of working styles and habits. Some of the more old school types even
>> request a secretary to dial the number at the start of conference calls! I
>> have not perceived that my requests of secretaries, paralegals, and other
>> support staff are out of the ordinary. All that being said, my firm has a
>> ton of resources, and I am grateful that I can make use of all of them.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nikki
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul
>> Bajaj via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:28 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking Sighted Assistance for Reading Documents
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well. While I am able to read most
>> documents independently after converting them into an accessible
>> format, I have to rely on sighted assistance from time to time.
>> This is obviously the case when handwritten documents are involved,
>> but also when the quality of the converted documents is not so good as
>> to enable me to decipher some pieces of information such as dates of
>> events or the page numbers of the written submissions on which the
>> annexures I need can be found.
>> In this respect, I was wondering if any of you could comment on: (1)
>> the principles that you adopt to decide when you want to rely on a
>> sighted reader as opposed to using assistive technology; and (2) for
>> those of you who work in a law firm, have you formally asked the firm
>> to make someone available to you for this purpose, or does this work
>> on an ad hoc basis?
>> Further, is your sighted reader generally an intern, a secretary or
>> someone else?
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue Aug  8 17:55:21 2017
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 11:55:21 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [DRBA] Disability and Civil Rights Clinic - NYC -
 Seeking collaborative partners nationwide!
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Fyi, especially in the NY area

 

From: Disability Rights Bar Association [mailto:DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Chin
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:09 AM
To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: [DRBA] Disability and Civil Rights Clinic - NYC - Seeking collaborative partners nationwide!

 

Dear all, 

 

Some of you may know that Brooklyn Law School has an amazing disability and civil rights clinic. Our students work together with two supervising attorneys to represent adult clients with intellectual and developmental disabilities in state and federal court and in administrative proceedings. The Clinic has also filed state appellate and amicus briefs, written comments and testified in regulatory hearings and conducted outreach and education on matters related to supported decision making, supplemental needs trusts and OPWDD (the NY state agency that administers services to eligible persons in the I/DD community). More information can be found here:  <http://www.brooklaw.edu/aaidd> www.brooklaw.edu/aaidd. We also just launched a twitter page, which is @BLSDCRC – it’s brand new and we hope to utilize it more to spread the word about issues that impact this commmunity. 

 

I am writing because in August and January of each year the Clinic often is seeking new cases to take on. We are interested in making an impact outside of New York City and State and would love to collaborate and support other organizations who represent adults (18 and over) with I/DD. One effort that comes to mind is amicus briefs, but we are open to providing legal support in others ways. For New Yorkers, we are also interested in hearing from you with any collaboration ideas! 

 

We have 12-14 students who are extremely diligent, passionate and excited and two supervising attorneys with a combined 25 years of experience! 

 

Feel free to reach out with any questions. Thank you! 

 

- Natalie 

 

 

Natalie M. Chin

Assistant Professor of Clinical Law

Director, Disability and Civil Rights Clinic:

Advocating for Adults with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities

Brooklyn Law School

250 Joralemon Street 

Brooklyn, NY 11201

718.780.0659 (ph.)

 <mailto:natalie.chin at brooklaw.edu> natalie.chin at brooklaw.edu

www.brooklaw.edu/aaidd <http://www.brooklaw.edu/aaidd> 

Follow up on Twitter @BLSDCRC

 

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Aug  9 15:57:11 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 15:57:11 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Two New York Federal Judges Refuse to Dismiss
 Website Accessibility Cases, Seyfarth/Shaw, August 7, 2017
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http://www.adatitleiii.com/2017/08/two-new-york-federal-judges-refuse-to-dismiss-website-accessibility-cases/?utm_source=Seyfarth+Shaw+-+ADA+Title+III+News+%26+Insights&utm_campaign=87a87c35f5-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_decb46f1f5-87a87c35f5-73100337



Two New York Federal Judges Refuse to Dismiss Website Accessibility Cases

Seyfarth & Shaw

August 7, 2017

By Kristina M. Launey & Minh N. Vu



Seyfarth Synopsis: Two New York federal judges recently said that the ADA covers websites (even those not connected to a physical place) and one held that working on improving the accessibility of one's website does not make the ADA claim moot.



The number of district court judges siding with plaintiffs in website accessibility cases is increasing. On June 13, a Florida federal judge issued the first web accessibility trial verdict against grocer Winn Dixie for having a website that could not be used by the blind plaintiff.  Two days later, a California federal judge held that a blind plaintiff's website accessibility lawsuit against retailer Hobby Lobby could proceed to discovery.  Now two federal judges in New York have weighed in, denying restaurant Five Guys' and retailer Blick's motions to dismiss lawsuits alleging that the defendants' inaccessible websites violate the ADA and New York State and City civil rights laws. Both judges found that: (1) websites are subject to the ADA, regardless of whether the goods and services are offered online and in physical locations; and (2) courts don't need agency regulations setting a standard for website accessibility to decide whether a website violates the ADA. The court in Five Guys additionally held that being in the process of improving a website's accessibility is very different from having successfully completed that process to meet the mootness standard of being "absolutely clear that the allegedly wrongful behavior could not reasonably be expected to recur." It summarily rejected the restaurant's mootness argument on that basis.



In the Blick putative class action, Eastern District Court Judge Weinstein issued a lengthy 38-page order on August 1 that addressed the issue of whether a nexus to a physical place of business is required to subject a website to the ADA. The opinion expressed sympathy for blind individuals who are unable to use some websites with their screen reader software and marshalled every possible argument in favor of finding that all websites that fall within the twelve types of businesses classified as "places of public accommodation" are covered by the ADA.  Judge Weinstein first surveyed relevant decisions from federal courts in other circuits.  Although the Ninth Circuit is the only appellate court that has actually addressed the coverage of a website under Title III of the ADA (all other Court of Appeals decisions have concerned other matters, mostly insurance products), he found that the Third, Sixth, and Eleventh Circuits have held that only businesses with a "nexus" to a physical location are subject to the ADA.  He characterized this interpretation of the law as "narrow" because it would mean that "a business that operates solely through the Internet and has no customer-facing physical location is under no obligation to make [its] website accessible." The court then considered First and Seventh Circuit decisions which have held that a business does not need a physical place of business where customers go to be considered public accommodations under the ADA.



Finally, looking to its own Court of Appeals (which has not squarely addressed the question of whether a business with no physical location can be covered by Title III of the ADA or considered a website accessibility case), the Blick court relied upon an extended interpretation of the Second Circuit's holding in Pallozzi - an insurance policy case - to hold that a business that has no physical place of business can be a covered public accommodation under the ADA.  Notably, the defendant in Pallozzi had a physical place of business where the plaintiff had purchased the allegedly discriminatory insurance product.  The Second Circuit held in Pallozzi that Title III of the ADA reaches beyond access barriers at a physical location and extends to the terms of the products sold from that physical location. It did not hold, nor even state in dicta, that a business with no physical location is covered by the ADA in the first place, or that a business' website is covered by the ADA.



In holding that a website does not need a nexus to a physical location to be covered by the ADA, Judge Weinstein aligned himself with two other District Court judges in the Second Circuit (District of Vermont Judge William K. Sessions III and New York Southern District Judge Katherine Forrest) who reached the same conclusion in cases brought against Scribd and Five Guys, respectively.



The Blick decision also rejects the recent Bang & Olufsen decision out of the Southern District of Florida, which followed the Target case in holding an ADA website access claim can only survive a motion to dismiss if the website's inaccessibility has an actual nexus to the business' physical location. The Bang & Olufsen court held that the plaintiff had not stated an ADA Title III claim because his complaint did not allege that the alleged website barriers in any way impeded his ability to shop at the physical store. The Blick court found this interpretation of the ADA "absurd," as it would require that only select aspects of Blick's website and online presence be accessible to the blind, such as allowing disabled individuals "a right to 'pre-shop' in their home, but no right to actually make a purchase in their home," and provide disabled individuals "no right whatsoever to purchase goods or services from companies whose business models (e.g. television shopping channels, catalogs, online-only) are premised on having customers shop only from home."



The court concluded its 22-page discussion of the issue by stating the plaintiff "has a substantive right to obtain effective access to Blick's website to make purchases, learn about products, and enjoy the other goods, services, accommodations, and privileges the defendant's website provides to the general public." It also found that the plaintiff might be able to enforce his rights through a class action, but that issue would wait until after the parties' motion(s) for summary judgment. The court also stated that it would convene a "Science Day" where experts would demonstrate web access technology to the court "to explore how burdensome it would be for the defendant to make its website compatible with available technology."



Both the Blick and Five Guys decisions rejected the argument that Justice Department regulations setting website accessibility requirements are necessary for a finding that a defendant has violated the ADA by having an inaccessible website. Like the District of Massachusetts in denying MIT and Harvard's motions to dismiss, and the Central District of California in denying Hobby Lobby's motion (contrary to a different decision out of that same district) the Blick court rejected the primary jurisdiction argument on the basis that it is the court's job to interpret and apply statutes and regulations and the risk of inconsistent rulings is outweighed by plaintiff's right to prompt adjudication of his claim. The court discussed the long history of the Justice Department's website accessibility rulemaking efforts before concluding that "t[]he court will not delay in adjudicating [plaintiff's] claim on the off-chance the DOJ promptly issues regulations it has contemplated issuing for seven years but has yet to make significant progress on."  Both courts rejected the defendants' due process arguments, stating no standard set by statute or regulation for is needed for the ADA's requirements of "reasonable modifications," "auxiliary aids and services," and "full and equal enjoyment" to apply to website accessibility. In rejecting Five Guys' argument that there are no regulations setting forth accessibility standards for websites, the Five Guys court noted that there are steps defendant could take, such as using the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines.



Finally, the Blick decision addressed the coverage of website accessibility claims under the New York State Human Rights Law, New York State Civil Rights Law, and New York City Human Rights Law, and found that such claims were covered to the same extent as they are under Title III of the ADA.



While there is no way of knowing whether other federal judges in New York will agree with the holdings of District Judges Weinstein and Forrest, more lawsuits will likely be filed in New York after these decisions.


From joshl at loevy.com  Wed Aug  9 22:14:34 2017
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:14:34 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
Message-ID: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues  have had no
issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
else is running into similar problems.

From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 22:47:16 2017
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 15:47:16 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey
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Did anyone else complete the survey and send an email to the general
accessibility address or Ann Naber?  My emails to the general
accessibility email address below bounced back saying the email
address did not exist.  I emailed Anne Naber and haven't heard back
from her. I made several recommendations which I have made before to
WestLaw. Has anyone had better success than I have?
Shannon L. Dillon

On 8/2/17, Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I am reposting Anne Naber's  message below.  The survey should still be
> open
> and I highly encourage everyone to fill it out.
>
>
>
> Thanks so much!
>
>
>
> Scott LaBarre
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> My name is Anne Naber, and I am an accessibility specialist for the Legal
> Division of Thomson Reuters. We are conducting a 22-question survey about
> the accessibility of Thomson Reuters Westlaw and also want to gather
> information about the overall accessibility of web content. The survey
> should take about 10 minutes to complete.
>
> Although this survey contains information specifically about Westlaw,
> please
> feel free to forward to anyone who might be interested in answering the
> general questions in the survey. The survey is open now and will close on
> July 1st.
>
> This survey is anonymous. If you would like to participate in future
> surveys
> or are willing to be contacted directly, please email Anne Naber at
> accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com
> <mailto:accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com>  and let us know you
> would like to be added to the list of customers who are interested in
> having
> continued and direct input about our products. We want our products to be
> highly usable and accessible for all our customers, so additional user
> feedback is extremely important to us. It is your feedback that will help
> guide our accessibility efforts, and we cannot stress how important your
> participation is to us.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your time. We value your input immensely, and will
> use the information gathered to help us align our accessibility efforts
> with
> our customers' usage and needs.
>
> Below is the link to the survey.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/99SY376
>
>
>
> Anne Naber
>
> Legal UX- accessibility specialist
>
> 651-687-6214
>
> anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com <mailto:anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> BlindLaw:
>
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> com
>
>
>
>
>
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From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 23:10:12 2017
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:10:12 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>

I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
selected the text.  I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
specific about what I am trying to copy.

Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
on a regular basis:
_ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
folder area.  It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
- I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18.  I always
have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
-Shannon

On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues  have had no
> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
> else is running into similar problems.
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail.com
>


-- 
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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed Aug  9 23:15:56 2017
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 23:15:56 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>

I, too, have noticed wacky copy-paste jobs. This is doubly annoying, since I know for sighted users, you can not only copy-and-paste the selected text but also the citation is appended automatically after your excerpt.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:10 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Shannon Dillon
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
selected the text.  I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
specific about what I am trying to copy.

Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
on a regular basis:
_ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
folder area.  It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
- I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18.  I always
have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
-Shannon

On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues  have had no
> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
> else is running into similar problems.
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail.com
>


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From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 23:50:30 2017
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:50:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have written about the issue regarding the automatic appending of
citations to WestLaw several times.

On 8/9/17, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I, too, have noticed wacky copy-paste jobs. This is doubly annoying, since I
> know for sighted users, you can not only copy-and-paste the selected text
> but also the citation is appended automatically after your excerpt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:10 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Shannon Dillon
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
>
> I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
> Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
> document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
> selected the text.  I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
> specific about what I am trying to copy.
>
> Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
> on a regular basis:
> _ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
> folder area.  It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
> pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
> - I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18.  I always
> have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
> -Shannon
>
> On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last
>> day.
>> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
>> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues  have had no
>> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
>> else is running into similar problems.
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail.com
>>
>
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
>
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> BlindLaw:
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>


-- 
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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 00:35:06 2017
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sy Hoekstra)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:35:06 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
	<CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>

The fact that we don't have access to that feature is quite annoying and
really slows down legal research relative to sighted colleagues.

But I think Josh is talking about something that happened in the last day
that is different than the normal copy/paste problems we have. I haven't
noticed anything.  I was definitely on WL yesterday.  I don't think I was
today though.


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:51 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have written about the issue regarding the automatic appending of
citations to WestLaw several times.

On 8/9/17, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I, too, have noticed wacky copy-paste jobs. This is doubly annoying, since
I
> know for sighted users, you can not only copy-and-paste the selected text
> but also the citation is appended automatically after your excerpt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:10 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Shannon Dillon
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24
hours.
>
> I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
> Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
> document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
> selected the text.  I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
> specific about what I am trying to copy.
>
> Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
> on a regular basis:
> _ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
> folder area.  It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
> pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
> - I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18.  I always
> have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
> -Shannon
>
> On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last
>> day.
>> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
>> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues  have had no
>> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
>> else is running into similar problems.
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
>>
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail
.com
>>
>
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
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> BlindLaw:
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>
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
>
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.com
>


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m



From joshl at loevy.com  Thu Aug 10 14:50:43 2017
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:50:43 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>	<CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>

I have run into the cut and paste issues Shannon is describing, but only
in the last couple of days. I'm wondering if it has to do with the version
of jaws, (18) that I am using?
This is killing my ability to write this brief quickly.
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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 15:03:01 2017
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:03:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>
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I have talked to Westlaw's accessibility department multiple times
about the citation issue. I have been repeatedly assured that work is
being done on this, but haven't noticed any changes. I'm not having
the other issues described here, but I use NVDA.

On 8/10/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have run into the cut and paste issues Shannon is describing, but only
> in the last couple of days. I'm wondering if it has to do with the version
> of jaws, (18) that I am using?
> This is killing my ability to write this brief quickly.
>


From joshl at loevy.com  Thu Aug 10 15:10:12 2017
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:10:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <CAPMpJYuf6=S1ZVqvMMCXN+8PXXvi0h6f0sR0iTyZOBYU5TyESw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>	<CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>	<d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPMpJYuf6=S1ZVqvMMCXN+8PXXvi0h6f0sR0iTyZOBYU5TyESw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef6cff9052dc747fc65b42fc20f4e893@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone who has had the copying issue, have you found any workarounds? So
far screaming and hitting the computer have not worked.
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Aug 10 15:14:38 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:14:38 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <ef6cff9052dc747fc65b42fc20f4e893@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
	<CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>
	<d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPMpJYuf6=S1ZVqvMMCXN+8PXXvi0h6f0sR0iTyZOBYU5TyESw@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef6cff9052dc747fc65b42fc20f4e893@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BY2PR20MB0181D5F61BF1568FAEEB0788D1880@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Ann Naber has posted to this list before and is likely subscribed. She is on the accessibility team for Westlaw. Has anyone attempted to reach out to her? I can't recall her email address offhand.

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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:10 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Josh Loevy <joshl at loevy.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

Anyone who has had the copying issue, have you found any workarounds? So far screaming and hitting the computer have not worked.

From joshl at loevy.com  Thu Aug 10 15:16:53 2017
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:16:53 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR20MB0181D5F61BF1568FAEEB0788D1880@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm about to call Westlaw.
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From NSingh at cov.com  Thu Aug 10 15:18:14 2017
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:18:14 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <ef6cff9052dc747fc65b42fc20f4e893@mail.gmail.com>
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I have restarted my computer, and this works pretty well, though not every time. JAWS-users, you may be aware that JAWS has a memory leak issue. Coupled with Microsoft's operating system inefficiencies, the computer performs worse through a length of time. I also find it helpful to copy and paste into Note Pad, since it is such a simple word processor and therefore editing and/or deleting unwanted text is easier and faster. Plus, Note Pad tends to be more stable than Word--again, these are more problems with Microsoft.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:10 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Josh Loevy
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

Anyone who has had the copying issue, have you found any workarounds? So
far screaming and hitting the computer have not worked.

From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Aug 10 15:22:08 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:22:08 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
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References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
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My workaround has been to copy and paste into Notepad and then italicize the citation once pasted into Microsoft Word. Definitely not as handy as direct copy and paste.

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:18 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have restarted my computer, and this works pretty well, though not every time. JAWS-users, you may be aware that JAWS has a memory leak issue. Coupled with Microsoft's operating system inefficiencies, the computer performs worse through a length of time. I also find it helpful to copy and paste into Note Pad, since it is such a simple word processor and therefore editing and/or deleting unwanted text is easier and faster. Plus, Note Pad tends to be more stable than Word--again, these are more problems with Microsoft.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:10 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Josh Loevy
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

Anyone who has had the copying issue, have you found any workarounds? So far screaming and hitting the computer have not worked.
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From lmendez716 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 15:36:49 2017
From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:36:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR20MB01817D1BC2238950F9D8B6E6D1880@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>	<82b8002cbb924a04a2ab9975449b2699@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>	<CA+JLRL-R2MEd2RdP+RQ_OpZX9y+6ncX4Za5ynEJ9MqyU=EGgfQ@mail.gmail.com>	<004701d31170$84348480$8c9d8d80$@gmail.com>	<d5169f79b33e258b5d4811cbd1118a40@mail.gmail.com>	<CAPMpJYuf6=S1ZVqvMMCXN+8PXXvi0h6f0sR0iTyZOBYU5TyESw@mail.gmail.com>	<ef6cff9052dc747fc65b42fc20f4e893@mail.gmail.com>	<1d8af7f34f82490fb6563028b92ba588@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
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Good morning:

Has anyone tried performing the copy and paste function  using  a
specialized research application such as One Note.  I tried Evernote for
Windows but found that application inaccessible using JAWS and not much
better with NVDA.  One Note seems promising , but I haven't worked with the
new Windows version yet.

Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:22 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

My workaround has been to copy and paste into Notepad and then italicize the
citation once pasted into Microsoft Word. Definitely not as handy as direct
copy and paste.

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh,
Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:18 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have restarted my computer, and this works pretty well, though not every
time. JAWS-users, you may be aware that JAWS has a memory leak issue.
Coupled with Microsoft's operating system inefficiencies, the computer
performs worse through a length of time. I also find it helpful to copy and
paste into Note Pad, since it is such a simple word processor and therefore
editing and/or deleting unwanted text is easier and faster. Plus, Note Pad
tends to be more stable than Word--again, these are more problems with
Microsoft.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy
via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:10 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Josh Loevy
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

Anyone who has had the copying issue, have you found any workarounds? So far
screaming and hitting the computer have not worked.
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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Thu Aug 10 16:00:46 2017
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:00:46 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>

To answer the original question, I have not noticed any strange behavior on Westlaw lately.  I use the text.westlaw.com site.

Regarding copying text, I have JAWS set to "select and copy from virtual cursor."  That gives me just the selected text with no formatting, and is very reliable.  I honestly don't know how to do the copy with citation that has been referenced.

I have encountered the problem with not being able to get out of the save to folder area, and have not come up with a solution.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:10 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com<mailto:shannonldillon at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
selected the text. I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
specific about what I am trying to copy.

Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
on a regular basis:
_ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
folder area. It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
- I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18. I always
have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
-Shannon

On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues have had no
> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
> else is running into similar problems.
> _______________________________________________
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Aug 10 16:17:41 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:17:41 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
Message-ID: <BY2PR20MB0181EBBA539DBF4B5E9F1654D1880@BY2PR20MB0181.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

I have also encountered the issue of not being able to exit the folder area after saving a document to a folder. 

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:01 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

To answer the original question, I have not noticed any strange behavior on Westlaw lately.  I use the text.westlaw.com site.

Regarding copying text, I have JAWS set to "select and copy from virtual cursor."  That gives me just the selected text with no formatting, and is very reliable.  I honestly don't know how to do the copy with citation that has been referenced.

I have encountered the problem with not being able to get out of the save to folder area, and have not come up with a solution.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:10 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com<mailto:shannonldillon at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I selected the text. I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very specific about what I am trying to copy.

Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw on a regular basis:
_ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the folder area. It says you should be able to close it with escape or by pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
- I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18. I always have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
-Shannon

On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, 
> and will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues have had 
> no issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if 
> anyone else is running into similar problems.
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
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> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
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> 0gmail.com
>


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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Thu Aug 10 16:20:33 2017
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:20:33 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D186@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>

I should have mentioned that I am using the latest version of JAWS 18, and WordPerfect X8 for my word processor.  I add the italics after I copy the citations.  Yes copying the citation separately is a pain.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:01 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

To answer the original question, I have not noticed any strange behavior on Westlaw lately. I use the text.westlaw.com site.

Regarding copying text, I have JAWS set to "select and copy from virtual cursor." That gives me just the selected text with no formatting, and is very reliable. I honestly don't know how to do the copy with citation that has been referenced.

I have encountered the problem with not being able to get out of the save to folder area, and have not come up with a solution.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com><http://www.holsteinlaw.com%3e>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:10 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e%3e>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com<mailto:shannonldillon at gmail.com><mailto:shannonldillon at gmail.com>><mailto:shannonldillon at gmail.com%3e%3e>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

I have problems regularly selecting and copying text from WestLaw.
Frequently I end up with text I didn't mean to copy pasted into my
document, or missing words I thought were selected. And I'm sure I
selected the text. I have a Braille display and speech and I'm very
specific about what I am trying to copy.

Additionally does anyone else have the following problems with WestLaw
on a regular basis:
_ if I save a case or statute to a folder, I can't exit out of the
folder area. It says you should be able to close it with escape or by
pressing enter on the close button but neither works for me.
- I can never access the advanced search link with JAWS 18. I always
have to unload JAWS 18 and bring up JAWS 16 to activate the link.
-Shannon

On 8/9/17, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e><mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3e%3e> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Curious if anyone else has come across issues with Westlaw in the last day.
> Specifically, Jaws is having trouble reading the formatting of cases, and
> will not copy and paste correctly. My sighted colleagues have had no
> issues. I am planning on contacting Westlaw, but wanted to see if anyone
> else is running into similar problems.
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From joshl at loevy.com  Thu Aug 10 16:23:03 2017
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:23:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
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	<CA+JLRL-cpb4RtvxQOQ_ie0F7xDKjCQ190t6gF-voY8g=4k56Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C05D0B3@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
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Brian, not familiar with copy from virtual curser as a setting, any
guidance on how to set this would be awesome. (a quick google search
didn't give me the answer; sorry for filling everyone's inbox)
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Thu Aug 10 16:26:49 2017
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:26:49 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Jaws and Westlaw questions
Message-ID: <015d01d311f5$77ec2220$67c46660$@sbgaal.com>

Hello Everyone,

 

I am sorry if these questions are too basic, but how do you copy with the
virtual cursor?  Also,  Whenever I e-mail myself a case off of westlaw, it
copies a link that is enormous for any case citations and is quite
cumbersome to scroll through or listen to.  Is there any setting where it
will just put in the case citation instead of this enormous link?

 

Thanks!

 

Sincerely,

 

Shannon Brady Geihsler

 

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Aug 10 16:32:28 2017
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:32:28 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Jaws and Westlaw questions
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I am not sure if this is what Brian was talking about. However, this might work:
Create Temporary PlaceMarker CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K 
Select Text Between Temporary PlaceMarker and Cursor Position INSERT+SPACEBAR, M


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Subject: [blindlaw] Jaws and Westlaw questions

Hello Everyone,

 

I am sorry if these questions are too basic, but how do you copy with the virtual cursor?  Also,  Whenever I e-mail myself a case off of westlaw, it copies a link that is enormous for any case citations and is quite cumbersome to scroll through or listen to.  Is there any setting where it will just put in the case citation instead of this enormous link?

 

Thanks!

 

Sincerely,

 

Shannon Brady Geihsler

 

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

1001 Main St., Suite 803

Lubbock, Texas 79401

Office:  (806) 763-3999

Mobile:  (806) 781-9296

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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Thu Aug 10 16:37:21 2017
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:37:21 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
In-Reply-To: <39806b36272873f44b05e57b5a68d41d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba3f539e4316ea56976a46f8a00147e0@mail.gmail.com>
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Josh,

When you are in your browser, press JAWS key plus v to bring up the quick menu of JAWS settings.   Tab to the tree view, arrow down to "virtual cursor options," and then the second option after that will be copy and select.  This can be toggled between "select and copy from virtual cursor" or "full content using onscreen cursor" using the spacebar to toggle between these options.  The first option gives you just the plain text.  The second gives you all the formatting and graphics associated with the text as it appears on screen.  I use the first option, because the full formatting and graphics makes a mess in WordPerfect, and you can also have the problem of winding up with more or less text than you thought you had selected.  MS Word users may have a different experience.

Hope that helps.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
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A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
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mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Josh Loevy <joshl at loevy.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.

Brian, not familiar with copy from virtual curser as a setting, any
guidance on how to set this would be awesome. (a quick google search
didn't give me the answer; sorry for filling everyone's inbox)

________________________________

From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 17:14:43 2017
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:14:43 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
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Thanks, Brian for the copy with virtual cursor instructions.  I'll try
that, though I use Word so we'll see.

In response to Tai's question about contacting Ann Naber, I emailed
her from my work email a couple days ago and have not heard from her.
I also tried to email the accessibility email address that was posted
in the email concerning the accessibility survey, but my email was
returned saying no account was found.

On 8/10/17, Brian Unitt via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> When you are in your browser, press JAWS key plus v to bring up the quick
> menu of JAWS settings.   Tab to the tree view, arrow down to "virtual cursor
> options," and then the second option after that will be copy and select.
> This can be toggled between "select and copy from virtual cursor" or "full
> content using onscreen cursor" using the spacebar to toggle between these
> options.  The first option gives you just the plain text.  The second gives
> you all the formatting and graphics associated with the text as it appears
> on screen.  I use the first option, because the full formatting and graphics
> makes a mess in WordPerfect, and you can also have the problem of winding up
> with more or less text than you thought you had selected.  MS Word users may
> have a different experience.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Loevy
> via BlindLaw
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:23 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Josh Loevy <joshl at loevy.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues using Jaws and Westlaw in the last 24 hours.
>
> Brian, not familiar with copy from virtual curser as a setting, any
> guidance on how to set this would be awesome. (a quick google search
> didn't give me the answer; sorry for filling everyone's inbox)
>
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From Anne.Naber at thomsonreuters.com  Mon Aug 14 15:08:02 2017
From: Anne.Naber at thomsonreuters.com (Anne.Naber at thomsonreuters.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:08:02 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey
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Message-ID: <4854F51579FAF44DAAA92AA2CD09789713815C28@EAGE-ERFPMBX46.ERF.thomson.com>

Hi,
I'm not sure what's going on with the research email; I will look into that.
My email is anne.naber at thomsonreuters.com.  I have not received any emails from you.
Thanks,
Anne

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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:47 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Shannon Dillon
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reminder about Westlaw Survey

Did anyone else complete the survey and send an email to the general accessibility address or Ann Naber?  My emails to the general accessibility email address below bounced back saying the email address did not exist.  I emailed Anne Naber and haven't heard back from her. I made several recommendations which I have made before to WestLaw. Has anyone had better success than I have?
Shannon L. Dillon

On 8/2/17, Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I am reposting Anne Naber's  message below.  The survey should still 
> be open and I highly encourage everyone to fill it out.
>
>
>
> Thanks so much!
>
>
>
> Scott LaBarre
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> My name is Anne Naber, and I am an accessibility specialist for the 
> Legal Division of Thomson Reuters. We are conducting a 22-question 
> survey about the accessibility of Thomson Reuters Westlaw and also 
> want to gather information about the overall accessibility of web 
> content. The survey should take about 10 minutes to complete.
>
> Although this survey contains information specifically about Westlaw, 
> please feel free to forward to anyone who might be interested in 
> answering the general questions in the survey. The survey is open now 
> and will close on July 1st.
>
> This survey is anonymous. If you would like to participate in future 
> surveys or are willing to be contacted directly, please email Anne 
> Naber at accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com
> <mailto:accessibility-research at thomsonreuters.com>  and let us know 
> you would like to be added to the list of customers who are interested 
> in having continued and direct input about our products. We want our 
> products to be highly usable and accessible for all our customers, so 
> additional user feedback is extremely important to us. It is your 
> feedback that will help guide our accessibility efforts, and we cannot 
> stress how important your participation is to us.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your time. We value your input immensely, and 
> will use the information gathered to help us align our accessibility 
> efforts with our customers' usage and needs.
>
> Below is the link to the survey.
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.
> com_r_99SY376&d=DwICAg&c=4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLmy8-1Cr1I4FWIvbLFebwKgY&r
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>
>
> Anne Naber
>
> Legal UX- accessibility specialist
>
> 651-687-6214
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From david.b.andrews at state.mn.us  Mon Aug 14 16:46:37 2017
From: david.b.andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED))
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:46:37 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: General Counsel at Minnesota Department of
 Transportation
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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 11:44 AM
To: MN_MMB_ExecRecruit <ExecRecruit.mmb at state.mn.us>
Subject: General Counsel at Minnesota Department of Transportation


Greetings to State of Minnesota Community Partners and friends!  I am emailing you to encourage applications and nominations for an exciting opportunity with Minnesota Department of Transportation.

A little about the job:

As the General Counsel for the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT), you will lead the agency's innovative legal services team, and develop strategies to address complex legal and public policy issues facing a modern state transportation agency including construction and contract law, environmental law, tort law, civil rights programs, privacy and government data laws, intellectual property law, public private-partnerships, and emerging issues related to autonomous and connected vehicles and renewable energy projects.  You will interface with both the executive and legislative branches of Government, and will work with the Office of the Attorney General which represents MnDOT in litigation. As a part of MnDOT's Chief Counsel's office, you will join a diverse and inclusive workforce, focused on serving the public, and improving the organization. This work will keep you continually challenged.
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If you have questions or interested please contact: ExecRecruit.mmb at state.mn.us<mailto:ExecRecruit.mmb at state.mn.us>  feel free to share with your network,

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From hbwilliams16 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 18:04:49 2017
From: hbwilliams16 at gmail.com (Hindley Williams)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:04:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT Accommodations
Message-ID: <CAK_VX0xvYPTH8wYvygLKHAaFaeEyTECUz1NbdpT8J4Gp6teBwg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,
I am getting all of my accommodations in place to take the LSAT. I am
a fast Braille reader, but may also see benefit in using a laptop
during parts of or the entirety of the test, even beyond the use of
Excel for the logic games section. I am in search of feedback from
anyone on this list who found themselves working through the same, or
similar, questions. If any of you are able to speak to this inquiry, I
would be very grateful if you could send any
suggestions/experiences/advice to me off-list at
hbwilliams16 at gmail.com. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to
joining you all in the field in a few short years.
All Best,
Hindley

-- 
Hindley Williams
hbwilliams16 at gmail.com
(443) 823-0867


From howardadelsberg at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 21:21:50 2017
From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:21:50 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] MPRE
Message-ID: <CA+VLjcDo-rW3bb_ivOchpxOvh=-+_FyHA7-CRA+tpy6s-6zZ5A@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone recently taken the MPRE? If so, I would like to talk to you.
Please contact me off list. I recenty became blind and need to tkae the
test. thank you.


Howard M. Adelsberg

From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 02:08:57 2017
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:08:57 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] evidence
Message-ID: <5e155093-53e3-259c-e95d-4b429e555b7d@gmail.com>

Hey guys, I am a second year law school student taking Evidence. Does 
anyone have any ideas of how I could get a road map of all the rules of 
evidence and see how they correspond? Most of the charts that have this 
information are in print, but I am blind, so I cannot see the maps.


From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed Aug 16 04:05:48 2017
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:05:48 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] evidence
In-Reply-To: <5e155093-53e3-259c-e95d-4b429e555b7d@gmail.com>
References: <5e155093-53e3-259c-e95d-4b429e555b7d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA57EEBB42434FFCBC04369F23731B53@UserHP>

you will have to make a excel spreadsheet using the actual pieces of 
evidence in one column and noting how you obtained them,
then in the next several columns, you put which of the FRE applies, or
you put in those columns rules that are against you so you can formulate the 
counter blows.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:08 PM
To: blind law
Cc: Roderick Thomas
Subject: [blindlaw] evidence

Hey guys, I am a second year law school student taking Evidence. Does
anyone have any ideas of how I could get a road map of all the rules of
evidence and see how they correspond? Most of the charts that have this
information are in print, but I am blind, so I cannot see the maps.

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From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 15:58:28 2017
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 11:58:28 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] fall and spring internships at Washington Lawyers'
 Committee for Civil Rights
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The Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights is currently
looking for interns for the fall and spring. One of the areas of focus
is disability rights. Please follow the instructions in the attached
and apply if interested. Please also forward to anyone who might be
interested.

Deepa

DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | Staff Attorney, Disability Rights Project
Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban
Affairs<http://www.washlaw.org/>
11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC
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From ainekc at gmail.com  Sat Aug 19 08:57:56 2017
From: ainekc at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?=C3=81ine_Kelly-Costello?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:57:56 +1200
Subject: [blindlaw] Disability-related Case Law in Latin America
Message-ID: <E3E9BA9D-AD56-4857-8C5F-D90B97EE7F18@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, 

I am a blind university student from New Zealand. 

My apologies if this question is considered off-topic, as it is not blindness-specific per se, but would anyone happen to know if there is a repository of case law concerning people with disabilities in Latin America anywhere? I'm particularly interested in cases in Chile, but any and all case law concerning disabled people from the region would be useful to look through. I'm aiming to focus on the (often overlapping) areas of discrimination (definitions of equal opportunity, reasonable accommodation, affirmative action measures etc.), and any particular provisions concerning the employment of disabled people.  

To give a little context - this is for an Honours dissertation project in Latin American studies. I'm hoping to compare discourses in the above-mentioned areas in Chile and New Zealand. 

Any help would be much appreciated, including any connections people may have with legal professionals/researchers who know this field. 

Thanks very much in advance, 

Best wishes, 

Aine  

From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 01:45:10 2017
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:45:10 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
Message-ID: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>

Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about 
being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to 
ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers 
that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an 
appellate lawyer?


Sincerely,

Roderick Thomas



From sbg at sbgaal.com  Tue Aug 22 02:27:26 2017
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:27:26 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <003e01d31aee$32994340$97cbc9c0$@sbgaal.com>

You can call me

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1001 Main St., Suite 803
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:45 PM
To: blind law
Cc: Roderick Thomas
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer

Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?


Sincerely,

Roderick Thomas


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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue Aug 22 02:47:24 2017
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 02:47:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12D5A869-5FF5-4AAC-8DBA-6558BA2AF1A1@cov.com>

I clerked at an appellate court, and I am happy to talk about my experiences.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Roderick Thomas
> 
> 
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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Tue Aug 22 05:10:12 2017
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 05:10:12 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C074A94@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>

Hi Roderick,

I have done a lot of appellate work throughout my career, and am in the process of becoming a certified specialist in California.  Happpy to answer any questions.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 6:45 PM
To: blind law <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Roderick Thomas <rthomas48 at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer

Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about
being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to
ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers
that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an
appellate lawyer?


Sincerely,

Roderick Thomas


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From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 14:36:38 2017
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 10:36:38 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <12D5A869-5FF5-4AAC-8DBA-6558BA2AF1A1@cov.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
	<12D5A869-5FF5-4AAC-8DBA-6558BA2AF1A1@cov.com>
Message-ID: <96ecaad0-bb89-bdaf-3e33-ebda9c45fcef@gmail.com>

How should I contact you?


On 8/21/2017 10:47 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote:
> I clerked at an appellate court, and I am happy to talk about my experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Roderick Thomas
>>
>>
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From davant1958 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 14:43:04 2017
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (denise Avant)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:43:04 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <96ecaad0-bb89-bdaf-3e33-ebda9c45fcef@gmail.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>	<12D5A869-5FF5-4AAC-8DBA-6558BA2AF1A1@cov.com>
	<96ecaad0-bb89-bdaf-3e33-ebda9c45fcef@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <033801d31b54$f672fc50$e358f4f0$@gmail.com>

Hello,
I have practiced criminal appellate law for thirty years with the Office of
the Cook County Public Defender. I would be willing to discuss my
experiences, and try to answer any questions you may have.  You can contact
me at davant1958 at gmail.com.




Denise R. Avant, President
National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
Live the life you want.
For more information about NFBI, 
Go to www.nfbofillinois.org.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roderick
Thomas via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:37 AM
To: Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Roderick Thomas <rthomas48 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer

How should I contact you?


On 8/21/2017 10:47 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote:
> I clerked at an appellate court, and I am happy to talk about my
experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about
being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask
them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I
could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate
lawyer?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Roderick Thomas
>>
>>
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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue Aug 22 14:59:17 2017
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:59:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <96ecaad0-bb89-bdaf-3e33-ebda9c45fcef@gmail.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
	<12D5A869-5FF5-4AAC-8DBA-6558BA2AF1A1@cov.com>
	<96ecaad0-bb89-bdaf-3e33-ebda9c45fcef@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52602b4a335948c59d54fdee47ce57ce@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>

I just saw that my meeting was canceled. I can talk now some more if you like.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:37 AM
To: Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Cc: Roderick Thomas
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer

How should I contact you?


On 8/21/2017 10:47 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote:
> I clerked at an appellate court, and I am happy to talk about my experiences.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Roderick Thomas
>>
>>
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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Tue Aug 22 15:32:10 2017
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:32:10 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D7051D@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>

I am not an appellate lawyer by trade, but I have written a dozen appellate briefs and have handled the oral arguments before the State Court of Appeals.  If you want to call me, my number is below.



Daniel K. Beitz
Wienner & Gould, P.C.
950 University Dr., Ste. 350
Rochester, MI  48307
Phone:  (248) 841-9405
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Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer

Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?


Sincerely,

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From kgilbride22 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 22 16:49:39 2017
From: kgilbride22 at hotmail.com (Karla Gilbride)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:49:39 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
In-Reply-To: <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D7051D@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
References: <ae6badb2-fd9b-8dd5-85a6-c275ab17a0f2@gmail.com>
	<AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681D7051D@DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR2201MB1017AF5EA2A69AEB6D542CDBBE840@DM5PR2201MB1017.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

My current practice is about 80% appellate work, both state and federal. You can call me at 202-631-2426.

Karla

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am not an appellate lawyer by trade, but I have written a dozen appellate briefs and have handled the oral arguments before the State Court of Appeals.  If you want to call me, my number is below.
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel K. Beitz
> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
> Rochester, MI  48307
> Phone:  (248) 841-9405
> Fax:  (248) 652-2729
> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
> 
> www.wiennergould.com
> 
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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:45 PM
> To: blind law
> Cc: Roderick Thomas
> Subject: [blindlaw] Appellate lawyer
> 
> Hey guys, I am a  third year law school student, and I am thinking about being an appellate lawyer, but I do not know any appellate lawyers to ask them any questions. Does anyone know any blind appellate lawyers that I could call to get more information about the job duties of an appellate lawyer?
> 
> 
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> 
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Aug 23 15:38:20 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:38:20 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] King County Chief Legal Counsel
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Blindlaw listers,

I am forwarding this position announcement because it sounds like a great opportunity for somebody.

From: King County, WA [mailto:KingCounty at subscriptions.kingcounty.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:48 AM
Subject: Chief Legal Counsel

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The Metropolitan King County Council is seeking an experienced, enthusiastic attorney with a passion for Public Policy, Leadership and Professionalism to join our team. The Chief Legal Counsel serves as a legal advisor to the Council and staff on a variety of matters dealing with public policy, legislation, and Council actions. The ideal candidate will be adept at municipal law, and the powers and duties of public officials and agencies.

The Chief Legal Counsel is a senior level professional position and supervises the work of the Senior Deputy Legal Counsel. This position operates with considerable latitude in providing legal advice and proposed solutions for consideration by decision makers to support the Council in fulfilling its mission.

The most competitive candidates will have an in-depth knowledge of County government and the theories and practices of civil and administrative law as they relate to local government. This is an exciting opportunity to join the King County Council staff and help provide excellent regional services to county residents. The position requires effective collaboration with Councilmembers, staff, the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney, the County Executive and departments, other units of governments, and members of the public.

King County Council is committed to upholding and promoting equal opportunity in employment. The Council encourages people of all backgrounds, cultures and religions to apply, including veterans, people of color, immigrants, refugees, women, LGBTQ, and people with disabilities. We value diversity and strive to hire a workforce that reflects the community that we serve. We believe a diverse workforce is a strong workforce.

MEET THE METROPOLITAN KING COUNTY COUNCIL: Named after one of our nation's greatest civil rights leader, King County remains one of the best places in the United States to live, work, and play. Take a look at the King County Council's message to county residents and outline for the legislative branch:  http://kingcounty.gov/council.aspx<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbXNpZD0mYXVpZD0mbWFpbGluZ2lkPTIwMTcwODIxLjc3MTY1NjAxJm1lc3NhZ2VpZD1NREItUFJELUJVTC0yMDE3MDgyMS43NzE2NTYwMSZkYXRhYmFzZWlkPTEwMDEmc2VyaWFsPTE2OTE5ODU1JmVtYWlsaWQ9bm5pZ2h0aW5nYWxlQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0JnVzZXJpZD1ubmlnaHRpbmdhbGVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQmdGFyZ2V0aWQ9JmZsPSZleHRyYT1NdWx0aXZhcmlhdGVJZD0mJiY=&&&101&&&http://kingcounty.gov/council.aspx> .
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Aug 24 15:48:57 2017
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 15:48:57 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Website Accessibility Lawsuit Filings Still
 Going Strong, Seyfarth/Shaw, August 22, 2017
References: <BN6PR09MB1362396201A30E910E22B3FE8E9A0@BN6PR09MB1362.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR0901MB221843A882D0B60C6FDD60E8F99A0@MWHPR0901MB2218.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>




http://www.adatitleiii.com/2017/08/website-accessibility-lawsuit-filings-still-going-strong/?utm_source=Seyfarth+Shaw+-+ADA+Title+III+News+%26+Insights&utm_campaign=d56fe1d270-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_decb46f1f5-d56fe1d270-73100337



Website Accessibility Lawsuit Filings Still Going Strong

Seyfarth/Shaw

August 22, 2017

By Kristina M. Launey & Melissa Aristizabal



Seyfarth Synopsis:  The number of federal lawsuits alleging inaccessible websites continues to increase, along with the number of law firms filing them.  Businesses remain well-advised to seek advice from counsel experienced in website accessibility to manage risk.



Different year, same news: Website accessibility lawsuits show no signs of slowing down. In fact, with the DOJ's recent placement of website regulations on the "inactive list", litigation will likely only continue. As we have written about extensively, most recently here, court orders are issuing more and more from courts across the country, slowly creating a body of jurisprudence around this issue; though the rulings differ vastly by court and even judge.



The number of website accessibility lawsuits filed in federal court since the beginning of 2015 has surged to at least 751 as of August 15, 2017, with at least 432 of those filed in just the first eight and a half months of 2017-well over the 262 lawsuits that were filed in all of 2015 and 2016. We say "at least" because there is no easy way to capture every website accessibility lawsuit filed in federal court. Thus, the actual numbers are likely higher than we can report with certainty. Our numbers also do not include the many cases filed in state courts nor demand letters that resolve without ever turning into lawsuits.



Number of federal website accessibility lawsuits by year from January 2015 to August 15, 2017: 2015 (57), 2016 (262), 2017 (432). There are at least this many lawsuits.



Retailers remain the most popular targets, followed by restaurant and hospitality companies.



Number of federal website lawsuits by industry from January 2015 to August 15, 2017: Academic (7), Entertainment (27), Financial (17), Hospitality (57), Medical (42), Personal Services (18), Restaurant (186), Retail (353), Vehicle Manufacturer (13), Other (22). There are at least this many lawsuits.



Although California continues to have the highest number of federal ADA title III lawsuits generally, Florida (385), New York (170) and Pennsylvania (85) have overtaken California with respect to the number of federal website accessibility lawsuits.



Number of states with the most website lawsuits in federal court as of August 15, 2017: Arizona (7), California (65), Florida (385), Illinois (5), Massachusetts (17), New York (170), Ohio (4), Pennsylvania (85), Texas (4), Washington (5). There are at least this many lawsuits.



These lawsuits are a significant portion of the increase in total ADA Title III lawsuits filed in federal courts this year, which, as of April 2017, was already over 2600 filings in 2017-an 18% increase over the number of federal cases filed in the same time period in 2016.


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed Aug 30 00:25:38 2017
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:25:38 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Important Information about Disaster Relief
Message-ID: <000901d32126$820d2610$86277230$@labarrelaw.com>

Greetings everyone, first of all, to our members and friends in Texas and
Louisiana, our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we hope all are safe
and dry.

 

As the storm passes, countless thousands of  individuals  will have legal
issues related to the disaster.  The American Bar Association is attempting
to centralize relevant information both for attorneys and members of the
public.  We have created

www.ambar.org/harvey <http://www.ambar.org/harvey> 

as a resource.

 

I just learned this evening that the Texas Supreme Court has issued an
emergency order allowing out of state attorneys to represent disaster
survivers on a probono basis.  When you check out our website, you will find
links on how you can volunteer to help out.  

 

This website is constantly being updated and populated with new resources.
So check back often.  If you are aware of other resources the ABA should
identify, please let me know.

 

On a side note, I am also pleased to tell you that one of the topics of
discussion on the ABA planning call I completed this evening was a clear
directive that information we offer on the Harvey site should be fully
accessible.  The real joy for me was that it was not necessary for me to be
the one pointing this out.

 

Finally, I want to note that one of our NABL Board Members, Randy Farber,
lives in Houston.  We hope you and your family are safe and well.  The same
goes for any other NABL members in the area!   

 

Warmly,

Scott  

 

Thanks,

Scott LaBarre  

 


From rfarber at jw.com  Wed Aug 30 03:32:21 2017
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 03:32:21 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Important Information about Disaster Relief
In-Reply-To: <000901d32126$820d2610$86277230$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <000901d32126$820d2610$86277230$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <31F2EE3645B8CB43A190156AB388DF13B4FF90D6@pdc-exch02.jwllp.com>

Scott - Thanks for the kind words.  Even though this has been a trying time for Susan and me, our plight is not nearly as bad as many others in Houston.  My house took in 45 inches of water, so everything is a total loss.  However, my parent's house is fine, and so Susan and I are boomerangers for the time being.  
I scheduled the adjuster to come this Thursday, so that Susan and I could make our scheduled Labor Day trip to Seattle to see our daughter.  I don't know how much time we will have, but perhaps we can see Noel or Bennett.

Thanks,
Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:36 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Scott C. Labarre
Subject: [blindlaw] Important Information about Disaster Relief

Greetings everyone, first of all, to our members and friends in Texas and Louisiana, our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we hope all are safe and dry.

 

As the storm passes, countless thousands of  individuals  will have legal issues related to the disaster.  The American Bar Association is attempting to centralize relevant information both for attorneys and members of the public.  We have created

www.ambar.org/harvey <http://www.ambar.org/harvey> 

as a resource.

 

I just learned this evening that the Texas Supreme Court has issued an emergency order allowing out of state attorneys to represent disaster survivers on a probono basis.  When you check out our website, you will find links on how you can volunteer to help out.  

 

This website is constantly being updated and populated with new resources.
So check back often.  If you are aware of other resources the ABA should identify, please let me know.

 

On a side note, I am also pleased to tell you that one of the topics of discussion on the ABA planning call I completed this evening was a clear directive that information we offer on the Harvey site should be fully accessible.  The real joy for me was that it was not necessary for me to be the one pointing this out.

 

Finally, I want to note that one of our NABL Board Members, Randy Farber, lives in Houston.  We hope you and your family are safe and well.  The same
goes for any other NABL members in the area!   

 

Warmly,

Scott  

 

Thanks,

Scott LaBarre  

 

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From tim at timeldermusic.com  Thu Aug 31 17:45:27 2017
From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 10:45:27 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact for Will Schell
Message-ID: <007501d32280$ef92f420$ceb8dc60$@timeldermusic.com>

All,

 

Will Schell is a blind attorney who formerly worked at HHS-OCR.  Does anyone
on the list know how to reach him now that he has left HHS?

 

Regards,

 

Tim

 


From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 31 18:08:12 2017
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:08:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact for Will Schell
In-Reply-To: <007501d32280$ef92f420$ceb8dc60$@timeldermusic.com>
References: <007501d32280$ef92f420$ceb8dc60$@timeldermusic.com>
Message-ID: <00cb01d32284$1d55b520$58011f60$@sbcglobal.net>

Tim:

I cannot help with locating Will Schell. However, aren't you the attorney
involved in the law suit against a major hotel chain's failure to provide
reasonable accomodations for disabled employees? If yes, I am curious how
that suit is proceeding. Thanks.

Daniel McBride
Fort Worth

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder
via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:45 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact for Will Schell

All,

 

Will Schell is a blind attorney who formerly worked at HHS-OCR.  Does anyone
on the list know how to reach him now that he has left HHS?

 

Regards,

 

Tim

 

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