From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jan 3 19:24:54 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:24:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: To WADA- Info about 1L Diversity Fellowship at Perkins Coie LLP In-Reply-To: <74BC2F1A8871C042A7CE216B3DE44874612B6AD9@DC1SVPMAIL11.perkinscoie.root.loc> References: <74BC2F1A8871C042A7CE216B3DE44874612B6AD9@DC1SVPMAIL11.perkinscoie.root.loc> Message-ID: From: Schermerhorn, Becky (Perkins Coie) [mailto:BSchermerhorn at perkinscoie.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:23 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Cc: Schermerhorn, Becky (Perkins Coie) Subject: To WADA- Info about 1L Diversity Fellowship at Perkins Coie LLP Noel, Greetings! I'd like to share this new flyer with WADA regarding our 1L Diversity Fellowship! If you would be so kind and please distribute and/or post this flyer for your student members and/or associates we'd be grateful. Thank you and Happy Holidays! 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Name: 2017 1L Diversity Fellowship Flyer.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 92829 bytes Desc: 2017 1L Diversity Fellowship Flyer.pdf URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jan 3 19:59:51 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:59:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Washington Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction Equity and Civil Rights Program Supervisor position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/1620889/equity-and-civil-rights-program-supervisor-wms-02 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Jan 4 00:44:02 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 00:44:02 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Staff attorney position with Teen Child in Tacoma washington Message-ID: From: WSBA Diversity [mailto:diversity at wsba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:03 AM To: Diversity Stakeholders Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] FW: Job Posting to share with Minority Bar Associations Please feel free to share this job posting from Team Child with your networks. For questions about the posting please contact Paul Alig at 253-274-9929. Best, Dana Barnett | Diversity and Inclusion Specialist Washington State Bar Association |• 206.733.5945|F 206.727.8318 | danab at wsba.org 1325 Fourth Avenue #600 | Seattle, WA 98101-2539 | www.wsba.org --- You are currently subscribed to diversity-stakeholders as: noel.nightingale at ed.gov. To unsubscribe click here: http://list.wsba.org/u?id=9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389&n=T&l=diversity-stakeholders&o=172803 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-172803-9689257.98490556339430b43adf9753d1310389 at list.wsba.org If you have any questions, or wish to change your email address, please contact the WSBA List Administrator. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Job Description - Staff Attorney - Pierce County TeamChild - December 2016.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 161148 bytes Desc: Job Description - Staff Attorney - Pierce County TeamChild - December 2016.pdf URL: From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 01:19:58 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 01:19:58 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all Could I check if the newsletter referred to is available online and if so, could someone please send me a link to the appropriate site? Many thanks Kind regards Ger On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > Additionally, we are always looking for 101/201 practice series > articles throughout the year. 101/201 Practice Series articles are > online resources for new lawyers covering basic training in both > substantive and practical aspects of law practice. So they would be > posted to our Committee website. These articles are typically longer > than the short articles contained in Newsletters—approximately 600 > words. While Practice Series articles are longer, and tend to be more > substantive in nature, it is important to note that these are not “law > review” articles—they are simple, short articles that discuss > important substantive and/or practical aspects of law practice. They > can vary in terms of topic, but should have some nexus to the work of > the Disability Rights Committee. Please see attached and here for > 101/201 examples: > http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series/women_minority_lawyers.html; > http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series.html. > > On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> The ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee, >> www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/committees/disability_rights.html, >> will be publishing our second quarterly newsletter on January 19. We >> are looking for more short articles and op-eds to include. The >> articles we received for our fall newsletter were great and we’d love >> more on a wide variety of interesting topics. If anyone would like to >> write something, please let me know and have your article to me by the >> first week of January. Again, the articles should be short, regarding >> recent legal developments or relevant tenets of law (approximately >> 200-300 words). Some suggestions for articles are: current relevant >> topics (such as discussing a recent significant court opinion or case >> in disability rights, upcoming significant Supreme Court decision, a >> legal event or cconference that just occurred), a discussion about >> being an attorney with a disability and your concerns/challenges in >> the legal profession, etc. Some examples of op-eds are: Lessons from >> One of America’s Best Advocates, Sexism in the Legal Field, >> Reflections of a Young Trial Attorney, etc. Note that if you want to >> publish an article in our newsletter, we must be your first place of >> publication. So please do not send an article that has already been >> published somewhere else, not even for another newsletter. >> >> If interested, please email me at deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Deepa >> >> DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | STAFF ATTORNEY, DISABILITY RIGHTS PROJECT >> WASHINGTON LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN AFFAIRS >> 11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036 >> 202-319-1000 X132 | Fax 202-319-1010 >> >> This email message is from an attorney and may contain information >> that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If you >> are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately >> advise the sender that this message was inadvertently transmitted to >> you and delete this message, along with any attachments. Please note >> that if you are an attorney who received this email about a >> prospective client, you must maintain the confidences of the >> prospective client. Thank you for your cooperation. >> > From sbadillo100 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 04:10:37 2017 From: sbadillo100 at gmail.com (--) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 23:10:37 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] reading comp on lsat Message-ID: <586c75ec.b222ed0a.b544d.bacb@mx.google.com> Hello, I was wondering if any one has any suggestions on doing reading comprehension quickly but accurately. Do you annotate passages? or do you simply read them through and try to answer all the questions. Thanks in advance. Sarah From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 05:09:29 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 00:09:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] reading comp on lsat In-Reply-To: <586c75ec.b222ed0a.b544d.bacb@mx.google.com> References: <586c75ec.b222ed0a.b544d.bacb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi there, I simply read the section through, then answered the questions. I would ocassionally go back and reread a few lines of a given paragraph. J On 1/3/17, -- via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello, I was wondering if any one has any suggestions on doing > reading comprehension quickly but accurately. Do you annotate > passages? or do you simply read them through and try to answer > all the questions. Thanks in advance. Sarah > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com > -- J Steele-Louchart I Will Find A Way or I Will Make One From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 06:54:48 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 01:54:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Diagraming Logic Games Message-ID: Hi, all, Will somebody please describe to me how you successfully diagrammed logic games on the LSAT as a totally blind test-taker? I can correctly identify the first sequence and write it as a list in a word document. My problem is then rearranging the variables with each new question to come up with the next right answer. I'd like someone to be extremely specific in how they solve these without losing track of which variables are where. I'm approved to use either a word document or hardcopy braille for the diagrams. Please, this would be indescribably helpful to me. Thank you, J From shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 14:24:26 2017 From: shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com (Shelley Richards) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 09:24:26 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] reading comp on lsat In-Reply-To: References: <586c75ec.b222ed0a.b544d.bacb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, I read through the questions before reading the passage, so that while I was reading I already knew what information I was looking for. After reading I then read the questions again and filled in the answers. I very occationally needed to go back and read a few lines of the passage again, but this did not happen often. This worked out quite well for me. I was able to complete the reading comp sections fairly quickly, and got a good score as well. I practiced many different ways though. You need to try different methods while practicing, and figure out what is going to work best for you. Good luck on the test. On 1/4/17, J Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi there, > > I simply read the section through, then answered the questions. I > would ocassionally go back and reread a few lines of a given > paragraph. > > J > > On 1/3/17, -- via BlindLaw wrote: >> Hello, I was wondering if any one has any suggestions on doing >> reading comprehension quickly but accurately. Do you annotate >> passages? or do you simply read them through and try to answer >> all the questions. Thanks in advance. Sarah >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > J Steele-Louchart > > I Will Find A Way or I Will Make One > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shelleyrichards9%40gmail.com > -- Thank You Shelley Palmadessa shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Jan 4 19:05:25 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 19:05:25 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Position opening at University of Washington Student Legal Services Message-ID: From: washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com [mailto:washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Conrad Reynoldson Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 10:58 AM To: WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com Subject: [WADA] Fwd: Position opening at UW Student Legal Services I am retiring from my position as director and staff attorney at UW Student Legal Services at the end of the current school year. It is a great opportunity for the right person. If you are willing, you are welcome to forward my email at will to other lawyers or listservs on which you can subscribe. The position is posted on various sites, but most critically on the UW site at this link: http://jobs.wsba.org/jobseeker/job/32122164/Director%20%26%20Staff%20Attorney/UW%20Student%20Legal%20Services/?str=1&max=25&vnet=0&long=1. Applicants must apply through the UW link. I cannot accept applications. I also cannot respond to individual requests for information due to the fact that I'm chairing the search committee and need to continue to focus on leading SLS and my WSBA section, teaching a class, and dealing with other limitations on my time. Google us, look at our website, and know that I’ve loved working here and now it’s time for someone else. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > > Dear all > > Could I check if the newsletter referred to is available online and if > so, could someone please send me a link to the appropriate site? > > Many thanks > > Kind regards > > Ger > >> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: >> Additionally, we are always looking for 101/201 practice series >> articles throughout the year. 101/201 Practice Series articles are >> online resources for new lawyers covering basic training in both >> substantive and practical aspects of law practice. So they would be >> posted to our Committee website. These articles are typically longer >> than the short articles contained in Newsletters—approximately 600 >> words. While Practice Series articles are longer, and tend to be more >> substantive in nature, it is important to note that these are not “law >> review” articles—they are simple, short articles that discuss >> important substantive and/or practical aspects of law practice. They >> can vary in terms of topic, but should have some nexus to the work of >> the Disability Rights Committee. Please see attached and here for >> 101/201 examples: >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series/women_minority_lawyers.html; >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series.html. >> >>> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee, >>> www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/committees/disability_rights.html, >>> will be publishing our second quarterly newsletter on January 19. We >>> are looking for more short articles and op-eds to include. The >>> articles we received for our fall newsletter were great and we’d love >>> more on a wide variety of interesting topics. If anyone would like to >>> write something, please let me know and have your article to me by the >>> first week of January. Again, the articles should be short, regarding >>> recent legal developments or relevant tenets of law (approximately >>> 200-300 words). Some suggestions for articles are: current relevant >>> topics (such as discussing a recent significant court opinion or case >>> in disability rights, upcoming significant Supreme Court decision, a >>> legal event or cconference that just occurred), a discussion about >>> being an attorney with a disability and your concerns/challenges in >>> the legal profession, etc. Some examples of op-eds are: Lessons from >>> One of America’s Best Advocates, Sexism in the Legal Field, >>> Reflections of a Young Trial Attorney, etc. Note that if you want to >>> publish an article in our newsletter, we must be your first place of >>> publication. So please do not send an article that has already been >>> published somewhere else, not even for another newsletter. >>> >>> If interested, please email me at deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Deepa >>> >>> DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | STAFF ATTORNEY, DISABILITY RIGHTS PROJECT >>> WASHINGTON LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN AFFAIRS >>> 11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036 >>> 202-319-1000 X132 | Fax 202-319-1010 >>> >>> This email message is from an attorney and may contain information >>> that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If you >>> are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately >>> advise the sender that this message was inadvertently transmitted to >>> you and delete this message, along with any attachments. Please note >>> that if you are an attorney who received this email about a >>> prospective client, you must maintain the confidences of the >>> prospective client. Thank you for your cooperation. >>> >> From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 04:06:04 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:06:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter In-Reply-To: <12B0A509-ABC5-4761-8993-1739FDA29EE1@gmail.com> References: <12B0A509-ABC5-4761-8993-1739FDA29EE1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02d401d26709$0976e880$1c64b980$@gmail.com> Attached is the fall quarterly newsletter of the ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee. As a final reminder, our winter newsletter is due on the 19th so if anyone would like to submit an article concerning disability rights issues, please submit it by Friday of next week. Deepa Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: Deepa Goraya [mailto:deepa.goraya at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:29 PM To: Gerard Sadlier Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Hi, I will send the first quarter newsletter from the fall when I get home. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > > Dear all > > Could I check if the newsletter referred to is available online and if > so, could someone please send me a link to the appropriate site? > > Many thanks > > Kind regards > > Ger > >> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: >> Additionally, we are always looking for 101/201 practice series >> articles throughout the year. 101/201 Practice Series articles are >> online resources for new lawyers covering basic training in both >> substantive and practical aspects of law practice. So they would be >> posted to our Committee website. These articles are typically longer >> than the short articles contained in Newsletters—approximately 600 >> words. While Practice Series articles are longer, and tend to be more >> substantive in nature, it is important to note that these are not >> “law review” articles—they are simple, short articles that discuss >> important substantive and/or practical aspects of law practice. They >> can vary in terms of topic, but should have some nexus to the work of >> the Disability Rights Committee. Please see attached and here for >> 101/201 examples: >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_ >> 201_practice_series/women_minority_lawyers.html; >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series.html. >> >>> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee, >>> www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/committees/disability_right >>> s.html, will be publishing our second quarterly newsletter on >>> January 19. We are looking for more short articles and op-eds to >>> include. The articles we received for our fall newsletter were great >>> and we’d love more on a wide variety of interesting topics. If >>> anyone would like to write something, please let me know and have >>> your article to me by the first week of January. Again, the articles >>> should be short, regarding recent legal developments or relevant >>> tenets of law (approximately >>> 200-300 words). Some suggestions for articles are: current relevant >>> topics (such as discussing a recent significant court opinion or >>> case in disability rights, upcoming significant Supreme Court >>> decision, a legal event or cconference that just occurred), a >>> discussion about being an attorney with a disability and your >>> concerns/challenges in the legal profession, etc. Some examples of >>> op-eds are: Lessons from One of America’s Best Advocates, Sexism in >>> the Legal Field, Reflections of a Young Trial Attorney, etc. Note >>> that if you want to publish an article in our newsletter, we must be >>> your first place of publication. So please do not send an article >>> that has already been published somewhere else, not even for another newsletter. >>> >>> If interested, please email me at deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Deepa >>> >>> DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | STAFF ATTORNEY, DISABILITY RIGHTS >>> PROJECT WASHINGTON LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN >>> AFFAIRS >>> 11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036 >>> 202-319-1000 X132 | Fax 202-319-1010 >>> >>> This email message is from an attorney and may contain information >>> that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If >>> you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately >>> advise the sender that this message was inadvertently transmitted to >>> you and delete this message, along with any attachments. Please note >>> that if you are an attorney who received this email about a >>> prospective client, you must maintain the confidences of the >>> prospective client. 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In-Reply-To: <27816-352616003.1483626603556.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> References: <27816-352616003.1483626603556.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> Message-ID: <011a01d26770$35ffa470$a1feed50$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: ABA Commission on Disability Rights [mailto:cdr at americanbar.org] Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 7:30 AM To: Scott C LaBarre Subject: Re: 2017 ABA-Prudential 1L Summer Internship Program for Law Students with Disabilities is Now Accepting Applications! 2017 1L Summer Internship Program Prudential Financial, Inc. The American Bar Association's (ABA) Commission on Disability Rights is pleased to partner with Prudential Financial, Inc. (Prudential) to provide a meaningful summer internship opportunity for a highly motivated, first-year law student with a disability. The Commission will select a law student with a disability to join the 2017 summer law intern class at Prudential's New Jersey offices. The 1L summer internship will run 10 weeks-from May 22 to July 28, 2017. Interns will be paid a stipend of approximately $10,000, which shall accrue and be paid on a weekly basis. Internship Description The summer internship program will provide interns the opportunity to work with attorneys who support the broad reach of Prudential's businesses. Other features of the program include: * Paid attendance at the 1L LCLD Scholars Summit in Philadelphia, PA on May 23-25 * Participation in training programs presented by Prudential attorneys highlighting different areas of the business and the legal department * Pairing with an attorney who will serve as a manager during the program and provide guidance on projects and other substantive work * Pairing with a mentor who will serve as an additional advisor on resume review * Interviewing skill development and mock interview practice * Networking within Prudential and externally with law firms and regulatory groups * Presentation development and delivery * Opportunity to shadow attorneys on various projects * Opportunities to interview with selected local firms for potential 2L internships Applicant Requirements Applicants must: * Be (or become) a member of the American Bar Association * Be a law student with a disability * Be enrolled at an ABA-accredited law school and have successfully completed the first year with a minimum 3.0 GPA on a 4.0 scale (or equivalent) * Be scheduled for graduation in spring 2019 (full-time students) or spring 2020 (part-time students) The ideal applicant will have financial or business-related experience or interest. Interns not local to New Jersey will be responsible for their own housing and transportation to and from Prudential's Newark office. How to Apply Submit your cover letter, resume, list of three references, and copy of your transcript to: Amy Allbright at Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org; (T) 202.662.1575; (F) 202.442.3439 Please write "Prudential Internship" in the subject line of all correspondence. All materials must be received by 5:00 p.m. EST on February 5, 2017. Finalists will be selected and notified on or before March 3, 2017. Prudential and its affiliates are Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employers and are committed to diversity in our workforce. This message was sent to slabarre at labarrelaw.com . Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. Update your profile Manage your email preferences Unsubscribe Privacy Policy Contact Us American Bar Association | 321 N Clark, Chicago, IL 60654-7598 | 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 From rjaquiss at earthlink.net Thu Jan 5 18:37:31 2017 From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (rjaquiss) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 10:37:31 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] The guide dog that spies on people who ignore its owner - BBC News Message-ID: <000001d26782$c69a8330$53cf8990$@earthlink.net> Hello: I thought this was an interesting article. Interesting use of a Go Pro camera. This doctor surely needs some better blindness training, but he did find an alternative technique. http://www.bbc.com/news/disability-38027203?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mcha nnel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook Regards, Robert Robert Jaquiss From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Jan 5 22:19:04 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:19:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: 2017 ABA-Prudential 1L Summer Internship Program for Law Students with Disabilities is Now Accepting Applications! In-Reply-To: <3504-352616003.1483626603556.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> References: <3504-352616003.1483626603556.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> Message-ID: From: ABA Commission on Disability Rights [mailto:cdr at americanbar.org] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 6:30 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Re: 2017 ABA-Prudential 1L Summer Internship Program for Law Students with Disabilities is Now Accepting Applications! 2017 1L Summer Internship Program Prudential Financial, Inc. [Image removed by sender. ABA-Prudential Summer Internship For Students with Disabilities] The American Bar Association's (ABA) Commission on Disability Rights is pleased to partner with Prudential Financial, Inc. (Prudential) to provide a meaningful summer internship opportunity for a highly motivated, first-year law student with a disability. The Commission will select a law student with a disability to join the 2017 summer law intern class at Prudential's New Jersey offices. The 1L summer internship will run 10 weeks-from May 22 to July 28, 2017. Interns will be paid a stipend of approximately $10,000, which shall accrue and be paid on a weekly basis. Internship Description The summer internship program will provide interns the opportunity to work with attorneys who support the broad reach of Prudential's businesses. 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Can you provide additional information to help me understand your statement that "This doctor surely needs some better blindness training." Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "rjaquiss via BlindLaw" To: ; ; ; Cc: "rjaquiss" ; "Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:37 AM Subject: [blindlaw] The guide dog that spies on people who ignore its owner - BBC News > Hello: > > I thought this was an interesting article. Interesting use of a Go Pro > camera. This doctor surely needs some better blindness training, but he > did > find an alternative technique. > > http://www.bbc.com/news/disability-38027203?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mcha > nnel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook > > Regards, > > Robert > > Robert Jaquiss > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennis%40dgclark.net > From awebb2168 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 00:56:26 2017 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 18:56:26 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter In-Reply-To: <02d401d26709$0976e880$1c64b980$@gmail.com> References: <12B0A509-ABC5-4761-8993-1739FDA29EE1@gmail.com> <02d401d26709$0976e880$1c64b980$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Deepa, I just tried sending an email to request that I be added to the YLD listserv, but I must have goofed the address as it got kicked back to me. I used: Yld-disability at mail.americanbar.org Can you tell me where I went wrong, or alternatively are you able to just add me yourself? Thanks, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 10:06 PM To: 'Gerard Sadlier' Cc: Deepa Goraya; 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Attached is the fall quarterly newsletter of the ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee. As a final reminder, our winter newsletter is due on the 19th so if anyone would like to submit an article concerning disability rights issues, please submit it by Friday of next week. Deepa Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: Deepa Goraya [mailto:deepa.goraya at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:29 PM To: Gerard Sadlier Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Hi, I will send the first quarter newsletter from the fall when I get home. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > > Dear all > > Could I check if the newsletter referred to is available online and if > so, could someone please send me a link to the appropriate site? > > Many thanks > > Kind regards > > Ger > >> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: >> Additionally, we are always looking for 101/201 practice series >> articles throughout the year. 101/201 Practice Series articles are >> online resources for new lawyers covering basic training in both >> substantive and practical aspects of law practice. So they would be >> posted to our Committee website. These articles are typically longer >> than the short articles contained in Newsletters—approximately 600 >> words. While Practice Series articles are longer, and tend to be more >> substantive in nature, it is important to note that these are not >> “law review” articles—they are simple, short articles that discuss >> important substantive and/or practical aspects of law practice. They >> can vary in terms of topic, but should have some nexus to the work of >> the Disability Rights Committee. Please see attached and here for >> 101/201 examples: >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_ >> 201_practice_series/women_minority_lawyers.html; >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series.html. >> >>> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee, >>> www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/committees/disability_right >>> s.html, will be publishing our second quarterly newsletter on >>> January 19. We are looking for more short articles and op-eds to >>> include. The articles we received for our fall newsletter were great >>> and we’d love more on a wide variety of interesting topics. If >>> anyone would like to write something, please let me know and have >>> your article to me by the first week of January. Again, the articles >>> should be short, regarding recent legal developments or relevant >>> tenets of law (approximately >>> 200-300 words). Some suggestions for articles are: current relevant >>> topics (such as discussing a recent significant court opinion or >>> case in disability rights, upcoming significant Supreme Court >>> decision, a legal event or cconference that just occurred), a >>> discussion about being an attorney with a disability and your >>> concerns/challenges in the legal profession, etc. Some examples of >>> op-eds are: Lessons from One of America’s Best Advocates, Sexism in >>> the Legal Field, Reflections of a Young Trial Attorney, etc. Note >>> that if you want to publish an article in our newsletter, we must be >>> your first place of publication. So please do not send an article >>> that has already been published somewhere else, not even for another newsletter. >>> >>> If interested, please email me at deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Deepa >>> >>> DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | STAFF ATTORNEY, DISABILITY RIGHTS >>> PROJECT WASHINGTON LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN >>> AFFAIRS >>> 11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036 >>> 202-319-1000 X132 | Fax 202-319-1010 >>> >>> This email message is from an attorney and may contain information >>> that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If >>> you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately >>> advise the sender that this message was inadvertently transmitted to >>> you and delete this message, along with any attachments. Please note >>> that if you are an attorney who received this email about a >>> prospective client, you must maintain the confidences of the >>> prospective client. Thank you for your cooperation. >>> >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From legal at s.ai Fri Jan 6 08:55:12 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 01:55:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules In-Reply-To: <17117208.14515@service.govdelivery.com> References: <17117208.14515@service.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: Item # 3 on the list below includes the new Rehab Act § 508 regulations for things like PDFs and websites published by the government (or anyone getting federal money). Should be of interest to some of you. - Sai ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: United States Access Board Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM Subject: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules Please join the U.S. Access Board members and staff for a public briefing on three recent final rules: Updated ADA Accessibility Guidelines for Buses and Vans (published December 14) Accessibility Standards for Medical Diagnostic Equipment (to be published January 9) Information and Communication Technology Standards and Guidelines (to be published soon) The briefing will be held on Tuesday, January 10 from 9:30 to Noon (ET) in the Access Board's Conference Room, 1331 F Street NW., Suite 800, Washington, DC 20004. For the comfort of all participants and to promote a fragrance-free environment, attendees are requested not to use perfume, cologne, or other fragrances. The briefing will be in person and available over the phone with streaming CART. U.S. callers: 888-396-7314 International callers: 773-756-0935 Passcode: 209 2216 CART link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ACCESS There will be a question and answer session for each rulemaking. All lines will be muted until each question and answer session. Please share this information with others with an interest in these rules. From bmerkadam at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 14:18:18 2017 From: bmerkadam at gmail.com (B Merk-Adam) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:18:18 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Lsat Message-ID: Any tips or strategies for addressing the logic games portion of the lsat?Any accommodations that would be useful? Sent from my iPhone From agtolentino at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 20:40:32 2017 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 12:40:32 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules In-Reply-To: References: <17117208.14515@service.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: <6664763D-B64D-4BCE-B7CC-47696D168EEA@gmail.com> Hello Sai, Do you happen to know if the Access Board archives these briefings? Thanks. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Jan 6, 2017, at 00:55, Sai via BlindLaw wrote: > > Item # 3 on the list below includes the new Rehab Act § 508 > regulations for things like PDFs and websites published by the > government (or anyone getting federal money). > > Should be of interest to some of you. > > - Sai > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: United States Access Board > Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM > Subject: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules > > > U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules > > Please join the U.S. Access Board members and staff for a public > briefing on three recent final rules: > > Updated ADA Accessibility Guidelines for Buses and Vans (published December 14) > > Accessibility Standards for Medical Diagnostic Equipment (to be > published January 9) > > Information and Communication Technology Standards and Guidelines (to > be published soon) > > The briefing will be held on Tuesday, January 10 from 9:30 to Noon > (ET) in the Access Board's Conference Room, 1331 F Street NW., Suite > 800, Washington, DC 20004. For the comfort of all participants and to > promote a fragrance-free environment, attendees are requested not to > use perfume, cologne, or other fragrances. > > The briefing will be in person and available over the phone with streaming CART. > > U.S. callers: 888-396-7314 > International callers: 773-756-0935 > Passcode: 209 2216 > > CART link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ACCESS > > There will be a question and answer session for each rulemaking. All > lines will be muted until each question and answer session. > > Please share this information with others with an interest in these rules. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From legal at s.ai Fri Jan 6 21:59:24 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 14:59:24 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules In-Reply-To: <6664763D-B64D-4BCE-B7CC-47696D168EEA@gmail.com> References: <17117208.14515@service.govdelivery.com> <6664763D-B64D-4BCE-B7CC-47696D168EEA@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know, but I've CCed them; they can answer directly. - Sai On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello Sai, > Do you happen to know if the Access Board archives these briefings? Thanks. > > Respectfully, > Aser Tolentino, Esq. > >> On Jan 6, 2017, at 00:55, Sai via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Item # 3 on the list below includes the new Rehab Act § 508 >> regulations for things like PDFs and websites published by the >> government (or anyone getting federal money). >> >> Should be of interest to some of you. >> >> - Sai >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: United States Access Board >> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM >> Subject: U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules >> >> >> U.S. Access Board to Hold Public Briefing on Final Rules >> >> Please join the U.S. Access Board members and staff for a public >> briefing on three recent final rules: >> >> Updated ADA Accessibility Guidelines for Buses and Vans (published December 14) >> >> Accessibility Standards for Medical Diagnostic Equipment (to be >> published January 9) >> >> Information and Communication Technology Standards and Guidelines (to >> be published soon) >> >> The briefing will be held on Tuesday, January 10 from 9:30 to Noon >> (ET) in the Access Board's Conference Room, 1331 F Street NW., Suite >> 800, Washington, DC 20004. For the comfort of all participants and to >> promote a fragrance-free environment, attendees are requested not to >> use perfume, cologne, or other fragrances. >> >> The briefing will be in person and available over the phone with streaming CART. >> >> U.S. callers: 888-396-7314 >> International callers: 773-756-0935 >> Passcode: 209 2216 >> >> CART link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ACCESS >> >> There will be a question and answer session for each rulemaking. All >> lines will be muted until each question and answer session. >> >> Please share this information with others with an interest in these rules. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 04:29:51 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 23:29:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter In-Reply-To: References: <12B0A509-ABC5-4761-8993-1739FDA29EE1@gmail.com> <02d401d26709$0976e880$1c64b980$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019001d2689e$b0a26580$11e73080$@gmail.com> Hi Andrew, I will ask the YLD staff person about this and get back to you. I know the listserv has been having some problems. Deepa Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Webb via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 7:56 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Andrew Webb Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Hi Deepa, I just tried sending an email to request that I be added to the YLD listserv, but I must have goofed the address as it got kicked back to me. I used: Yld-disability at mail.americanbar.org Can you tell me where I went wrong, or alternatively are you able to just add me yourself? Thanks, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 10:06 PM To: 'Gerard Sadlier' Cc: Deepa Goraya; 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Attached is the fall quarterly newsletter of the ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee. As a final reminder, our winter newsletter is due on the 19th so if anyone would like to submit an article concerning disability rights issues, please submit it by Friday of next week. Deepa Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: Deepa Goraya [mailto:deepa.goraya at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:29 PM To: Gerard Sadlier Cc: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] looking for articles for the Disability Rights Committee's second quarterly newsletter Hi, I will send the first quarter newsletter from the fall when I get home. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Gerard Sadlier wrote: > > Dear all > > Could I check if the newsletter referred to is available online and if > so, could someone please send me a link to the appropriate site? > > Many thanks > > Kind regards > > Ger > >> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: >> Additionally, we are always looking for 101/201 practice series >> articles throughout the year. 101/201 Practice Series articles are >> online resources for new lawyers covering basic training in both >> substantive and practical aspects of law practice. So they would be >> posted to our Committee website. These articles are typically longer >> than the short articles contained in Newsletters—approximately 600 >> words. While Practice Series articles are longer, and tend to be more >> substantive in nature, it is important to note that these are not >> “law review” articles—they are simple, short articles that discuss >> important substantive and/or practical aspects of law practice. They >> can vary in terms of topic, but should have some nexus to the work of >> the Disability Rights Committee. Please see attached and here for >> 101/201 examples: >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_ >> 201_practice_series/women_minority_lawyers.html; >> http://www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/publications/the_101_201_practice_series.html. >> >>> On 12/19/16, Deepa Goraya wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The ABA Young Lawyers Division Disability Rights Committee, >>> www.americanbar.org/groups/young_lawyers/committees/disability_right >>> s.html, will be publishing our second quarterly newsletter on >>> January 19. We are looking for more short articles and op-eds to >>> include. The articles we received for our fall newsletter were great >>> and we’d love more on a wide variety of interesting topics. If >>> anyone would like to write something, please let me know and have >>> your article to me by the first week of January. Again, the articles >>> should be short, regarding recent legal developments or relevant >>> tenets of law (approximately >>> 200-300 words). Some suggestions for articles are: current relevant >>> topics (such as discussing a recent significant court opinion or >>> case in disability rights, upcoming significant Supreme Court >>> decision, a legal event or cconference that just occurred), a >>> discussion about being an attorney with a disability and your >>> concerns/challenges in the legal profession, etc. Some examples of >>> op-eds are: Lessons from One of America’s Best Advocates, Sexism in >>> the Legal Field, Reflections of a Young Trial Attorney, etc. Note >>> that if you want to publish an article in our newsletter, we must be >>> your first place of publication. So please do not send an article >>> that has already been published somewhere else, not even for another newsletter. >>> >>> If interested, please email me at deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Deepa >>> >>> DEEPINDER K. GORAYA, ESQ. | STAFF ATTORNEY, DISABILITY RIGHTS >>> PROJECT WASHINGTON LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN >>> AFFAIRS >>> 11 Dupont Circle,NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036 >>> 202-319-1000 X132 | Fax 202-319-1010 >>> >>> This email message is from an attorney and may contain information >>> that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If >>> you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately >>> advise the sender that this message was inadvertently transmitted to >>> you and delete this message, along with any attachments. Please note >>> that if you are an attorney who received this email about a >>> prospective client, you must maintain the confidences of the >>> prospective client. Thank you for your cooperation. >>> >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com From LBlake at nfb.org Mon Jan 9 20:29:41 2017 From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:29:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Registration for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium is Now Open! Message-ID: Registration is Now Open! for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Justice and the Supreme Court: The Constitution and the Right to Live in the World March 30-March 31, 2017 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Join leading disability and civil rights advocates from throughout the United States to examine the application of the United States Constitution by the Supreme Court to persons with disabilities and explore strategies to raise the level of judicial scrutiny so that all may achieve Dr. tenBroek's vision of equality of opportunity. The 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as barriers to job application accessibility and potential legal remedies; effective strategies for achieving digital accessibility and communication access; criminalization of disability; and the development of a strategy to raise the level of judicial scrutiny set by Cleburne and Garrett. Presenters will include: * Samuel Bagenstos, Frank G. Millard Professor of Law, University of Michigan Law School * Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law * David Ferleger, Principal, Law Office of David Ferleger * Leslie Francis, Distinguished Professor of Law, University of Utah College of Law * Daniel F. Goldstein, Partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Jasmine E. Harris, Acting Professor of Law, University of California, Davis, School of Law * Eve Hill, Disability Rights Attorney * Arlene B. Mayerson, Directing Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund * Kimberly Mutcherson, Vice Dean, Camden Law School East, Rutgers University * Mark E. Olive, Principal, Mark E. Olive Law Office * Robert M. Sanger, Senior Partner, Sanger Swysen & Dunkle * Rebecca Vallas, Managing Director, Poverty to Prosperity Program, Center for American Progress * Michael Waterstone, Dean, Loyola Law School * Silvia Yee, Senior Staff Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 (nonrefundable) Student registration fee: $25 (nonrefundable) For more information about the symposium, hotel accommodations, and symposium sponsorship opportunities, please visit https://nfb.org/law-symposium. You can register online by going to: Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Online Registration. You may also download from the symposium website a registration form to mail or fax. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Deputy Executive Director Jernigan Institute National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, MD 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 Email: lblake at nfb.org Lou Ann Blake, J.D. Deputy Executive Director, Jernigan Institute 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2221| lblake at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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Summary: < https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/final-rule > Full version: < https://www.access-board.gov/attachments/article/1877/ict-rule.pdf> - Sai ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: United States Access Board Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 12:57 PM Subject: U.S. Access Board Updates Requirements for Information and Communication Technology *U.S. Access Board Updates Requirements for Information and Communication Technology * [image: laptop with collection of ICT, including laptop (Sec. 508 and Sec. 255 on screen), cell phones, tablet, and disk]The U.S. Access Board today released a final rule that updates accessibility requirements for information and communication technology (ICT) in the federal sector covered by Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act. The rule also refreshes guidelines for telecommunications equipment subject to Section 255 of the Communications Act. "This update is essential to ensure that the Board's Section 508 standards and the Communications Act guidelines keep pace with the ever-changing technologies covered and continue to meet the access needs of people with disabilities," states Sachin Pavithran, Chair of the Board's ICT ad hoc committee. "The Access Board is grateful for the input it received from the public and stakeholders throughout the rulemaking process which greatly enhanced the final product." The rule jointly updates and reorganizes the Section 508 standards and Section 255 guidelines in response to market trends and innovations, such as the convergence of technologies. The refresh also harmonizes these requirements with other guidelines and standards both in the U.S. and abroad, including standards issued by the European Commission and with the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG), a globally recognized voluntary consensus standard for web content and ICT. In fact, the rule references Level A and Level AA Success Criteria and Conformance Requirements in WCAG 2.0 and applies them not only to websites, but also to electronic documents and software. "Throughout this process," according to Access Board Executive Director David M. Capozzi, "the Board worked very hard to ensure consistency with other consensus guidelines and international standards to promote global harmonization and facilitate compliance." He noted that, "ICT requirements that are closely aligned remove ambiguity, increase marketplace competition, and lead to better accessibility features and outcomes." The updated requirements specify the technologies covered and provide both performance-based and technical requirements for hardware, software, and support documentation and services. Access is addressed for all types of disabilities, including those pertaining to vision, hearing, color perception, speech, cognition, manual dexterity, and reach. The rule, which will be published later this month in the *Federal Register*, restructures provisions so that they are categorized by functionality instead of by product type due to the increasingly multi-functional capabilities of ICT products. Revisions are also made to improve ICT usability, including interoperability with assistive technologies, and to clarify the types of ICT covered, such as electronic documents. The Board released a proposed version of the rule for public comment in February 2015 and, before that, earlier drafts of the rule. The rule is based on recommendations from an advisory panel the Board chartered, the Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee which included representatives from industry, disability groups, government agencies, foreign countries, and other stakeholders. The rule will take effect in one year. The Section 508 standards, which are incorporated into the federal government's procurement regulations, apply to ICT procured, developed, maintained, or used by federal agencies. The Communications Act guidelines cover telephones, cell phones, pagers, computers with modems, switching equipment and other telecommunications equipment. The Board will conduct a webinar on the rule on February 2. For further information, visit the Board's website or contact Timothy Creagan at (202) 272-0016 (v), (202) 272-0074 (TTY), or 508 at access-board.gov. From PChang at nfb.org Mon Jan 9 22:41:51 2017 From: PChang at nfb.org (Chang, Patti) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:41:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Registration for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium is Now Open! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F43DD13-82FD-4669-939E-30FD003D5545@nfb.org> President Riccabono has asked that I attend this. Do I register is normal? I presume my registration fee is complementary. "Every day we raise the expectations of blind people in the National Federation of the Blind." Patti S. Gregory Chang Esq. Director of Outreach National Federation of the Blind Direct phone: (410) 659–9314 extension 2422 Mobile: (773) 307–6440 WWW.NFB.org On Jan 9, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Blake, Lou Ann via BlindLaw > wrote: Registration is Now Open! for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Justice and the Supreme Court: The Constitution and the Right to Live in the World March 30-March 31, 2017 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Join leading disability and civil rights advocates from throughout the United States to examine the application of the United States Constitution by the Supreme Court to persons with disabilities and explore strategies to raise the level of judicial scrutiny so that all may achieve Dr. tenBroek's vision of equality of opportunity. The 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as barriers to job application accessibility and potential legal remedies; effective strategies for achieving digital accessibility and communication access; criminalization of disability; and the development of a strategy to raise the level of judicial scrutiny set by Cleburne and Garrett. Presenters will include: * Samuel Bagenstos, Frank G. Millard Professor of Law, University of Michigan Law School * Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law * David Ferleger, Principal, Law Office of David Ferleger * Leslie Francis, Distinguished Professor of Law, University of Utah College of Law * Daniel F. Goldstein, Partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Jasmine E. Harris, Acting Professor of Law, University of California, Davis, School of Law * Eve Hill, Disability Rights Attorney * Arlene B. Mayerson, Directing Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund * Kimberly Mutcherson, Vice Dean, Camden Law School East, Rutgers University * Mark E. Olive, Principal, Mark E. Olive Law Office * Robert M. Sanger, Senior Partner, Sanger Swysen & Dunkle * Rebecca Vallas, Managing Director, Poverty to Prosperity Program, Center for American Progress * Michael Waterstone, Dean, Loyola Law School * Silvia Yee, Senior Staff Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 (nonrefundable) Student registration fee: $25 (nonrefundable) For more information about the symposium, hotel accommodations, and symposium sponsorship opportunities, please visit https://nfb.org/law-symposium. You can register online by going to: Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Online Registration. You may also download from the symposium website a registration form to mail or fax. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Deputy Executive Director Jernigan Institute National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, MD 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 Email: lblake at nfb.org Lou Ann Blake, J.D. Deputy Executive Director, Jernigan Institute 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2221| lblake at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From PChang at nfb.org Mon Jan 9 22:47:13 2017 From: PChang at nfb.org (Chang, Patti) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:47:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Registration for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium is Now Open! In-Reply-To: <3F43DD13-82FD-4669-939E-30FD003D5545@nfb.org> References: <3F43DD13-82FD-4669-939E-30FD003D5545@nfb.org> Message-ID: Sorry, not meant for the list. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chang, Patti via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 4:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Chang, Patti Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Registration for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium is Now Open! President Riccabono has asked that I attend this. Do I register is normal? I presume my registration fee is complementary. "Every day we raise the expectations of blind people in the National Federation of the Blind." Patti S. Gregory Chang Esq. Director of Outreach National Federation of the Blind Direct phone: (410) 659–9314 extension 2422 Mobile: (773) 307–6440 http://WWW.NFB.org On Jan 9, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Blake, Lou Ann via BlindLaw > wrote: Registration is Now Open! for the 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Disability Justice and the Supreme Court: The Constitution and the Right to Live in the World March 30-March 31, 2017 at the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute Baltimore, Maryland Join leading disability and civil rights advocates from throughout the United States to examine the application of the United States Constitution by the Supreme Court to persons with disabilities and explore strategies to raise the level of judicial scrutiny so that all may achieve Dr. tenBroek's vision of equality of opportunity. The 2017 Jacobus tenBroek Disability law Symposium will consist of plenary sessions and workshops facilitated by distinguished law professors, practitioners, and advocates who will discuss topics such as barriers to job application accessibility and potential legal remedies; effective strategies for achieving digital accessibility and communication access; criminalization of disability; and the development of a strategy to raise the level of judicial scrutiny set by Cleburne and Garrett. Presenters will include: * Samuel Bagenstos, Frank G. Millard Professor of Law, University of Michigan Law School * Robert Dinerstein, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law * David Ferleger, Principal, Law Office of David Ferleger * Leslie Francis, Distinguished Professor of Law, University of Utah College of Law * Daniel F. Goldstein, Partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP * Jasmine E. Harris, Acting Professor of Law, University of California, Davis, School of Law * Eve Hill, Disability Rights Attorney * Arlene B. Mayerson, Directing Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund * Kimberly Mutcherson, Vice Dean, Camden Law School East, Rutgers University * Mark E. Olive, Principal, Mark E. Olive Law Office * Robert M. Sanger, Senior Partner, Sanger Swysen & Dunkle * Rebecca Vallas, Managing Director, Poverty to Prosperity Program, Center for American Progress * Michael Waterstone, Dean, Loyola Law School * Silvia Yee, Senior Staff Attorney, Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund Documentation for CLE credits will be provided. Registration fee: $175 (nonrefundable) Student registration fee: $25 (nonrefundable) For more information about the symposium, hotel accommodations, and symposium sponsorship opportunities, please visit https://nfb.org/law-symposium. You can register online by going to: Jacobus tenBroek Disability Law Symposium Online Registration. You may also download from the symposium website a registration form to mail or fax. For additional information, contact: Lou Ann Blake, JD Deputy Executive Director Jernigan Institute National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, MD 21230 Telephone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2221 Email: lblake at nfb.org Lou Ann Blake, J.D. Deputy Executive Director, Jernigan Institute 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2221| lblake at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 23:33:05 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:33:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Uniform Commercial Code Message-ID: <20170109233305.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Does anyone know of an accessible version of the UCC that can be downloaded for offline viewing? I need one that I can use on a notetaker and can't find one anywhere. From laura.wolk at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 23:53:11 2017 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:53:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Uniform Commercial Code In-Reply-To: <20170109233305.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> References: <20170109233305.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kelbie, The Legal Information Institute has a lot of this stuff on their website. Here's the link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc On 1/9/17, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > Does anyone know of an accessible version of the UCC that can be downloaded > for offline viewing? I need one that I can use on a notetaker and can't find > one anywhere. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From al.elia at aol.com Tue Jan 10 03:52:10 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 22:52:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Uniform Commercial Code In-Reply-To: References: <20170109233305.kelbycarlson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <08A59F1A-0E6F-41F3-AEF6-3181CDC79054@aol.com> Or, you could mirror the LII UCC pages, then write a program that converts them all from html to text, then strips out the headings, and combines them all into a single text file for each article. Or, you could ask someone who already did that for 1L contracts. Enjoy. On 9 Jan 2017, at 18:53, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: > Kelbie, > > The Legal Information Institute has a lot of this stuff on their > website. Here's the link: > https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc > > On 1/9/17, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >> Does anyone know of an accessible version of the UCC that can be >> downloaded >> for offline viewing? 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ARCHIVE them for all present and future members by logging in to the DRBA website, going to the MEMBERS AREA and selecting ONLINE DOCUMENT DATABASE for further instructions. Contact DRBA-Law at law.syr.edu for login credentials and related help. From cathryn.bonnette17 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 01:01:40 2017 From: cathryn.bonnette17 at gmail.com (Cathryn Bonnette) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:01:40 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text Message-ID: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> Hello Listers, Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will bring up options. Hope this helps. Cathryn Bonnette From legal at s.ai Wed Jan 11 01:31:09 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:31:09 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: What about ? I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a screen reader. If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports first): wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use for various other archiving. - Sai On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello Listers, > > > > Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text > version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. > > > > https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content > > > > Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will bring > up options. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cathryn Bonnette > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Jan 11 03:03:09 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:03:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com>, Message-ID: <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the UC see in text format. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw > wrote: What about ? I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a screen reader. If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports first): wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use for various other archiving. - Sai On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw > wrote: Hello Listers, Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will bring up options. Hope this helps. Cathryn Bonnette _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 13:01:12 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:01:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> Message-ID: What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the UC > see in text format. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw > > wrote: > > What about ? > > I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a > screen reader. > > If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system > (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports > first): > > wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc > > That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with > /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on > the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use > for various other archiving. > > - Sai > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw > > wrote: > Hello Listers, > > > > Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text > version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. > > > > https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content > > > > Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will > bring > up options. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cathryn Bonnette > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 13:48:38 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:48:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks Message-ID: All, Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has accessible copies of either of the following: Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt Thanks. From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 13:53:53 2017 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:53:53 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com><255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> Message-ID: <0CF278E6EF77402EAEF6EF386CE44FF0@mcglashonHP> Ms. Kelby: I've been reading this thread for a while now and I think I understand what you are trying to do; here's what I'd do, I assume, (maybe incorrectly) that you are a law student who is taking a contracts class; and you wish to have the statue handy during class itself; if this is so, then you should have a subscription to lexis or westlaw; in either case, when you pull up the statute on one of those services, there are some links above the text of the statute that say email, download, print, etc; what I would do is download each section of the code of the UCC as separate text file; I believe that when choosing download option you can select txt, doc, pdf etc. keep in mind that since the UCC is a pretty big pandect of code you will want to download it in sections and then put it on your note taker. please advise, Mike M. -----Original Message----- From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: kelby carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UCC text What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the > UC > see in text format. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw > > wrote: > > What about ? > > I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a > screen reader. > > If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system > (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports > first): > > wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc > > That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with > /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on > the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use > for various other archiving. > > - Sai > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw > > wrote: > Hello Listers, > > > > Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text > version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. > > > > https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content > > > > Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will > bring > up options. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cathryn Bonnette > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net From al.elia at aol.com Wed Jan 11 13:54:27 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C7AB5AA9BD2071B.8F787AB5-3C46-4329-93D1-FCF9922F0667@mail.outlook.com> What school? And what are the publishers of the textbooks? Get Outlook for iOS On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM -0500, "kelby carlson via BlindLaw" wrote: All, Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has accessible copies of either of the following: Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt Thanks. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com From al.elia at aol.com Wed Jan 11 13:55:29 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> Message-ID: <8C7AB5AA9BD2071B.FCB36318-4EB8-4AF0-8496-CC65BDC1D1C3@mail.outlook.com> The one I sent to as a zip file can be read off-line… It's just text files for each article. Get Outlook for iOS On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:02 AM -0500, "kelby carlson via BlindLaw" wrote: What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the UC > see in text format. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw > > wrote: > > What about ? > > I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a > screen reader. > > If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system > (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports > first): > > wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc > > That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with > /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on > the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use > for various other archiving. > > - Sai > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw > > wrote: > Hello Listers, > > > > Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text > version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. > > > > https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content > > > > Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will > bring > up options. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cathryn Bonnette > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 13:56:39 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:56:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: <0CF278E6EF77402EAEF6EF386CE44FF0@mcglashonHP> References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org> <0CF278E6EF77402EAEF6EF386CE44FF0@mcglashonHP> Message-ID: Mike, The problem with this is that you can only download individual sections of the UCC, I don't think you can do that with articles. This would take a really, really long time. P.S. I'm actually a guy, though people make that mistake online sometimes. On 1/11/17, mike mcglashon via BlindLaw wrote: > Ms. Kelby: > > I've been reading this thread for a while now and I think I understand what > > you are trying to do; > here's what I'd do, > I assume, (maybe incorrectly) that you are a law student who is taking a > contracts class; and you wish to have the statue handy during class itself; > if this is so, then you should have a subscription to lexis or westlaw; > in either case, when you pull up the statute on one of those services, > there are some links above the text of the statute that say email, download, > > print, etc; > what I would do is download each section of the code of the UCC as separate > > text file; > I believe that when choosing download option you can select txt, doc, pdf > etc. > > keep in mind that since the UCC is a pretty big pandect of code you will > want to download it in sections and then put it on your note taker. > > please advise, > > Mike M. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:01 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UCC text > > What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. > > On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the >> UC >> see in text format. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >> On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw >> > wrote: >> >> What about ? >> >> I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a >> screen reader. >> >> If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system >> (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports >> first): >> >> wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc >> >> That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with >> /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on >> the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use >> for various other archiving. >> >> - Sai >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw >> > wrote: >> Hello Listers, >> >> >> >> Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text >> version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. >> >> >> >> https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content >> >> >> >> Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will >> bring >> up options. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Cathryn Bonnette >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 13:56:22 2017 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:56:22 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: do you have ISBN's for these books? that will help. -----Original Message----- From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:48 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: kelby carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks All, Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has accessible copies of either of the following: Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt Thanks. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 14:00:31 2017 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:00:31 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com><255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org><0CF278E6EF77402EAEF6EF386CE44FF0@mcglashonHP> Message-ID: oopse: sorry about that!!!! embarrassed; well the sections are good to download because you will never use the entire code at any given time so yes it might take long time but it will be worth it in the long run. also, you can control what gets put on your portable device at any given time. and even further, if you want some piece of it brailled then it will be easy to do. I guess what I'm saying is it might be advisable to bite the bullet and download sections one at a time; it probably will be beneficial in the long run for lots of reasons. -----Original Message----- From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:56 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: kelby carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UCC text Mike, The problem with this is that you can only download individual sections of the UCC, I don't think you can do that with articles. This would take a really, really long time. P.S. I'm actually a guy, though people make that mistake online sometimes. On 1/11/17, mike mcglashon via BlindLaw wrote: > Ms. Kelby: > > I've been reading this thread for a while now and I think I understand > what > > you are trying to do; > here's what I'd do, > I assume, (maybe incorrectly) that you are a law student who is taking a > contracts class; and you wish to have the statue handy during class > itself; > if this is so, then you should have a subscription to lexis or westlaw; > in either case, when you pull up the statute on one of those services, > there are some links above the text of the statute that say email, > download, > > print, etc; > what I would do is download each section of the code of the UCC as > separate > > text file; > I believe that when choosing download option you can select txt, doc, pdf > etc. > > keep in mind that since the UCC is a pretty big pandect of code you will > want to download it in sections and then put it on your note taker. > > please advise, > > Mike M. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:01 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UCC text > > What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. > > On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the >> UC >> see in text format. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >> On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw >> > wrote: >> >> What about ? >> >> I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a >> screen reader. >> >> If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system >> (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports >> first): >> >> wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc >> >> That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with >> /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on >> the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use >> for various other archiving. >> >> - Sai >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw >> > wrote: >> Hello Listers, >> >> >> >> Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text >> version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. >> >> >> >> https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content >> >> >> >> Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will >> bring >> up options. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Cathryn Bonnette >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 14:16:47 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:16:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Crim Pro: ISBN 0314279512, West Academic Secured Transactions: ISBN 1609303423 Foundation Press On 1/11/17, mike mcglashon via BlindLaw wrote: > do you have ISBN's for these books? that will help. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kelby carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:48 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks > > All, > > Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my > disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of > my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am > unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has > accessible copies of either of the following: > > Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler > Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Jan 11 14:18:37 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:18:37 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] UCC text In-Reply-To: References: <019c01d26ba6$44e29990$cea7ccb0$@gmail.com> <255514F7-10A6-4AC3-A4A6-1D08440F1B5A@driowa.org>, Message-ID: <8EF3F937-8559-4B18-9C60-C77C11878633@driowa.org> Yes, the version he posted was available for download for off-line reading. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 11, 2017, at 7:02 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw > wrote: What I'm hoping to find is one that you can download for offline reading. On 1/10/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > wrote: The Message from Al Elia had an attachment containing a zip file of the UC see in text format. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Sai via BlindLaw > wrote: What about ? I can't speak to whether it's accessible, as I don't normally use a screen reader. If you want to get an offline copy, this would work on any unix system (including OSX, though you may need to install wget through macports first): wget -Ecpmk https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc That command should download the entire Cornell website starting with /ucc, and transform all the links to work locally. Run repeatedly on the same collection it should just update in place. It's what I use for various other archiving. - Sai On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Cathryn Bonnette via BlindLaw > wrote: Hello Listers, Perhaps this link will work for those wanting to find an accessible text version of the Uniform commercial Code, UCC. https://uniformcommercialcode.uslegal.com/articles-of-the-ucc/#content Alternatively, a Google search for "Uniform Commercial Code, UCC" will bring up options. Hope this helps. Cathryn Bonnette _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From al.elia at aol.com Wed Jan 11 14:19:51 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:19:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72587589-C83F-4890-B0E5-F40BC8048478@aol.com> I just googled these books, and they're both published by West. West will provide text pdfs of any textbook, usually within 24 hours of receiving a request from a school's DSS office. They will want a copy of the receipt showing you purchased the print book (the email receipt from amazon should work – it always did when I was a student). West prefers dealing with school DSS offices, rather than directly with students, but you can contact them directly if the school is somehow failing at the simple web form for requesting accessible textbooks. On 11 Jan 2017, at 8:48, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > All, > > Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my > disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of > my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am > unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has > accessible copies of either of the following: > > Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler > Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jan 11 14:48:42 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:48:42 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] {Disarmed} FW: ABA Commission on Disability Rights is Now Accepting Applications for the 2017 Microsoft Legal Internship for a Law Student with a Disability! In-Reply-To: <11375-1808861901.1484145002184.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> References: <11375-1808861901.1484145002184.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> Message-ID: <00e201d26c19$cdb180b0$69148210$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: ABA Commission on Disability Rights [mailto:cdr at americanbar.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:30 AM To: Scott C LaBarre Subject: ABA Commission on Disability Rights is Now Accepting Applications for the 2017 Microsoft Legal Internship for a Law Student with a Disability! The American Bar Association's (ABA) Commission on Disability Rights is pleased to partner with Microsoft to provide a meaningful summer internship opportunity for a highly motivated, first-year law student living with a disability. INTERNSHIP DESCRIPTION Legal interns will work within Microsoft's Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs department in Redmond, Washington, for 10 to 12 weeks during the summer. They will have a broad range of responsibilities from across the department, which may include researching legal issues impacting business strategy, drafting transactional documents, attending client meetings and product reviews, and collaborating with internal teams on cross-group projects. Get ready to overcome challenges, forge solutions, and provide direct counsel to the cutting edge of the world's most dynamic industry. In addition to competitive pay, interns will receive the following benefits: * Pairing with an attorney who will serve as both mentor and manager, providing guidance on projects, career development, networking, and other individual needs * Participation in the 1L LCLD Scholars Program , including paid attendance at the 1L LCLD Scholars Summit * Paid travel to Microsoft * Subsidized car rental or bike purchase plan * Health club membership (dues paid by Microsoft, but taxed as income for you) * Shipping reimbursement * Free bus pass * Parties and special events * Free training * Software discounts QUALIFICATIONS Applicants must: * Be first-year law students in good standing for the degree of J.D. * Be enrolled at an ABA-accredited law school and have successfully completed the first year * Be (or become) a member of the American Bar Association * Be a law student living with a disability (as defined by WHO ), whether that be visual, hearing, mobility, cognitive, or speech * Have excellent analytical ability and legal drafting skills * Have excellent oral and written communications skills * Be able to communicate effectively across a large number of diverse internal groups, teams, and divisions * Have a demonstrated ability to work efficiently, meet deadlines, and manage multi-dimensional projects in a fast-paced environment * Be able to research and learn new concepts and legal issues quickly to facilitate problem solving HOW TO APPLY To apply, submit your cover letter and resume to Amy Allbright at Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org no later than Feb. 17, 2017 @ 5:00 pm EST. We will plan to have final selection completed by March 31, 2017. In your cover letter, please address your demonstrated commitment to diversity and your career goals and interests. All materials must be received by 5:00 p.m. EST on February 17, 2017. Microsoft is an equal opportunity employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, religion, national origin, marital status, age, disability, veteran status, genetic information, or any other protected status. This message was sent to slabarre at labarrelaw.com . Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. Update your profile Manage your email preferences Unsubscribe Privacy Policy Contact Us American Bar Association | 321 N Clark, Chicago, IL 60654-7598 | 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 From daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 14:52:19 2017 From: daniel.smyth06 at gmail.com (Daniel Smyth) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:52:19 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Textbooks In-Reply-To: <72587589-C83F-4890-B0E5-F40BC8048478@aol.com> References: <72587589-C83F-4890-B0E5-F40BC8048478@aol.com> Message-ID: Indeed, West usually provides a PDF within just a few hours. I had a similar experience with my school's disability office. The office was on the university campus. I had the law school dean of students take over this job and I haven't had a problem since. I would consider emailing your dean of students and potentially cc the law school dean on that email stating this has to be done immediately. *Daniel E. Smyth* J.D. Candidate, 2017 St. John's University School of Law President | Student Bar Association (917) 692-1978 On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Al Elia via BlindLaw wrote: > I just googled these books, and they're both published by West. West will > provide text pdfs of any textbook, usually within 24 hours of receiving a > request from a school's DSS office. They will want a copy of the receipt > showing you purchased the print book (the email receipt from amazon should > work – it always did when I was a student). West prefers dealing with > school DSS offices, rather than directly with students, but you can contact > them directly if the school is somehow failing at the simple web form for > requesting accessible textbooks. > > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 8:48, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, >> >> Sorry to ask about another resource so soon. Unfortunately my >> disability office has been negligent in obtaining accessible copies of >> my textbooks for this semester. This is becoming a problem as I am >> unable to complete assignments. So I am wondering if anyone has >> accessible copies of either of the following: >> >> Criminal Procedure: Prosecuting Crime, 5th Edition by Dresler >> Secured Transactions, 9th Edition by Warrent and Walt >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/daniel > .smyth06%40gmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Jan 11 16:37:58 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:37:58 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] ABA Commission on Disability Rights is Now Accepting Applications for the 2017 Microsoft Legal Internship for a Law Student with a Disability! In-Reply-To: References: <5275-1808861901.1484145002184.JavaMail.CHG-MAESTRO-01$@CHG-MAESTRO-01> Message-ID: From: ABA Commission on Disability Rights [mailto:cdr at americanbar.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:30 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: ABA Commission on Disability Rights is Now Accepting Applications for the 2017 Microsoft Legal Internship for a Law Student with a Disability! [Image removed by sender. 2017 Microsoft Legal Internship for a Law Student with a Disability] The American Bar Association’s (ABA) Commission on Disability Rights is pleased to partner with Microsoft to provide a meaningful summer internship opportunity for a highly motivated, first-year law student living with a disability. INTERNSHIP DESCRIPTION Legal interns will work within Microsoft’s Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs department in Redmond, Washington, for 10 to 12 weeks during the summer. They will have a broad range of responsibilities from across the department, which may include researching legal issues impacting business strategy, drafting transactional documents, attending client meetings and product reviews, and collaborating with internal teams on cross-group projects. Get ready to overcome challenges, forge solutions, and provide direct counsel to the cutting edge of the world’s most dynamic industry. In addition to competitive pay, interns will receive the following benefits: * Pairing with an attorney who will serve as both mentor and manager, providing guidance on projects, career development, networking, and other individual needs * Participation in the 1L LCLD Scholars Program, including paid attendance at the 1L LCLD Scholars Summit * Paid travel to Microsoft * Subsidized car rental or bike purchase plan * Health club membership (dues paid by Microsoft, but taxed as income for you) * Shipping reimbursement * Free bus pass * Parties and special events * Free training * Software discounts QUALIFICATIONS Applicants must: * Be first-year law students in good standing for the degree of J.D. * Be enrolled at an ABA-accredited law school and have successfully completed the first year * Be (or become) a member of the American Bar Association * Be a law student living with a disability (as defined by WHO), whether that be visual, hearing, mobility, cognitive, or speech * Have excellent analytical ability and legal drafting skills * Have excellent oral and written communications skills * Be able to communicate effectively across a large number of diverse internal groups, teams, and divisions * Have a demonstrated ability to work efficiently, meet deadlines, and manage multi-dimensional projects in a fast-paced environment * Be able to research and learn new concepts and legal issues quickly to facilitate problem solving HOW TO APPLY To apply, submit your cover letter and resume to Amy Allbright at Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org no later than Feb. 17, 2017 @ 5:00 pm EST. We will plan to have final selection completed by March 31, 2017. In your cover letter, please address your demonstrated commitment to diversity and your career goals and interests. All materials must be received by 5:00 p.m. EST on February 17, 2017. Microsoft is an equal opportunity employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, religion, national origin, marital status, age, disability, veteran status, genetic information, or any other protected status. This message was sent to noel.nightingale at ed.gov. Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1457 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Jan 12 19:51:50 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:51:50 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Message-ID: Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel From legal at s.ai Thu Jan 12 19:54:37 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:54:37 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What OS? Option-5 in OSX. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu Jan 12 20:00:19 2017 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (mnowicki4 at icloud.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:00:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Noel, I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I’m not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu Jan 12 20:12:19 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:12:19 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> References: , <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Message-ID: <61BFBFC0-94E1-4A33-93F5-9B8A8AB4E09F@driowa.org> There is a way to set a hot key. I will send directions when I get back to the office. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > wrote: Noel, I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I'm not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From legal at s.ai Thu Jan 12 20:33:35 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:33:35 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <61BFBFC0-94E1-4A33-93F5-9B8A8AB4E09F@driowa.org> References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <61BFBFC0-94E1-4A33-93F5-9B8A8AB4E09F@driowa.org> Message-ID: To clarify, Option-5 is the Mac OSX key. (I don't use Windows.) FYI, this is something I saw recently that might be of interest to you: My understanding is it's developed specifically for Windows & MS Office products. It has, for instance, a separate key on what is normally the number pad with the section symbol, pillcrow (paragraph symbol), the word "court", etc. Demo video with decent audio narration: Various updated info & reviews are on their twitter: I have nothing to do with them, and I wouldn't personally use it. However, it seems like it might be useful to you. It's basically a bunch of pre-made Windows/Office macros, bound to specific keys. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > There is a way to set a hot key. I will send directions when I get back to the office. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Noel, > > I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I'm not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol > > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 20:41:01 2017 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:41:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <61BFBFC0-94E1-4A33-93F5-9B8A8AB4E09F@driowa.org> Message-ID: <21C30C11-DB0C-4AFC-A4C2-0366BC23C596@gmail.com> Alternatively, if you are a Jaws user, you can just push Jaws key + 4. That will open the select a symbol dialog box. If you push S, that will get you to the section sign. Then just push enter. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2017, at 15:33, Sai via BlindLaw wrote: > > To clarify, Option-5 is the Mac OSX key. (I don't use Windows.) > > > FYI, this is something I saw recently that might be of interest to you: > > > > My understanding is it's developed specifically for Windows & MS > Office products. > > It has, for instance, a separate key on what is normally the number > pad with the section symbol, pillcrow (paragraph symbol), the word > "court", etc. > > Demo video with decent audio narration: > > Various updated info & reviews are on their twitter: > > > > I have nothing to do with them, and I wouldn't personally use it. > > However, it seems like it might be useful to you. It's basically a > bunch of pre-made Windows/Office macros, bound to specific keys. > > - Sai > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > wrote: >> There is a way to set a hot key. I will send directions when I get back to the office. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > wrote: >> >> Noel, >> >> I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I'm not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol >> >> Blindlaw, >> >> It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? >> >> I would appreciate it. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Noel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From legal at s.ai Thu Jan 12 20:52:41 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:52:41 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <21C30C11-DB0C-4AFC-A4C2-0366BC23C596@gmail.com> References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <61BFBFC0-94E1-4A33-93F5-9B8A8AB4E09F@driowa.org> <21C30C11-DB0C-4AFC-A4C2-0366BC23C596@gmail.com> Message-ID: That reminds me of another thing I only found out very recently: In Apple OSX, control-command-space brings up a searchable symbol dialog box. You can type 'section' for instance and it comes up together with a few other things; 'section sign' (the official Unicode name for it) gives the exact result. There's also a 'frequently used' section at the top of the dialog box. It also has emoticons and the like, which I think is what it's mainly used for, but as far as I can tell it provides access to the whole unicode chart. Here's an ankh, for instance: ☥ I don't normally use a screenreader, so I have no idea how accessible it is, but it might be useful. It's an OS feature, so it works in nearly all text fields, but for some reason not in my gmail compose window. (It does work in the gmail search field, so I think it's gmail overriding keyboard shortcuts somehow.) Only on OSX, though. Sincerely, Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Sybren Hoekstra wrote: > Alternatively, if you are a Jaws user, you can just push Jaws key + 4. That will open the select a symbol dialog box. If you push S, that will get you to the section sign. Then just push enter. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 12, 2017, at 15:33, Sai via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> To clarify, Option-5 is the Mac OSX key. (I don't use Windows.) >> >> >> FYI, this is something I saw recently that might be of interest to you: >> >> >> >> My understanding is it's developed specifically for Windows & MS >> Office products. >> >> It has, for instance, a separate key on what is normally the number >> pad with the section symbol, pillcrow (paragraph symbol), the word >> "court", etc. >> >> Demo video with decent audio narration: >> >> Various updated info & reviews are on their twitter: >> >> >> >> I have nothing to do with them, and I wouldn't personally use it. >> >> However, it seems like it might be useful to you. It's basically a >> bunch of pre-made Windows/Office macros, bound to specific keys. >> >> - Sai >> >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> wrote: >>> There is a way to set a hot key. I will send directions when I get back to the office. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > wrote: >>> >>> Noel, >>> >>> I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I'm not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Nightingale, Noel >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol >>> >>> Blindlaw, >>> >>> It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? >>> >>> I would appreciate it. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Noel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 20:54:41 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:54:41 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Message-ID: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> Sai: I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sai Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol What OS? Option-5 in OSX. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Jan 12 20:57:20 2017 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:57:20 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. I am certainly interested to hear this. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Sai: I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sai Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol What OS? Option-5 in OSX. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 21:04:46 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:04:46 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <013f01d26d17$81ffb520$85ff1f60$@gmail.com> Dan: Let me clarify that I am a screen reader user. The problems that I encountered are likely either screen reader specific issues or user issues related to learning a new screen reader after having used D.O.S. and then Windows based screen readers for many years. Luis -----Original Message----- From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:57 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. I am certainly interested to hear this. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Sai: I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sai Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol What OS? Option-5 in OSX. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Thu Jan 12 21:05:50 2017 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:05:50 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: <013f01d26d17$81ffb520$85ff1f60$@gmail.com> References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> <013f01d26d17$81ffb520$85ff1f60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I sure would like to hear about recent experiences using pages and Word on apple. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: Luis Mendez [mailto:lmendez716 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:05 PM To: Dan Beitz; 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Dan: Let me clarify that I am a screen reader user. The problems that I encountered are likely either screen reader specific issues or user issues related to learning a new screen reader after having used D.O.S. and then Windows based screen readers for many years. Luis -----Original Message----- From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:57 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. I am certainly interested to hear this. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac Sai: I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sai Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol What OS? Option-5 in OSX. - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: > Blindlaw, > > It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? > > I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould. com From legal at s.ai Thu Jan 12 21:23:53 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:23:53 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I actually compose everything in Google Docs, except when I have to review someone else's drafts, in which case I use NeoOffice (which is free). I have really extreme light sensitivity, but fairly normal acuity and no tunnel vision etc. Lighting completely controls whether I'm fully sighted or functionally blind. It's an issue for navigation (I use a guide cane and sunglasses / hat, sometimes a sleep mask if it's too bright). However, I generally use the computer like a sighted person. I just have the screen on low brightness and have a privacy shield installed (which dims it a bit more and also provides privacy from people trying to look at my screen from the side). I mainly only have to switch to voiceover mode if I'm outdoors in bright light, since then it's stabbingly painful to use my eyes. So, I'm afraid my experience probably isn't going to be very helpful to you from a blind perspective. I compose all my briefs fully sighted, just in very dim lighting. I don't use much for legal drafting that's OSX specific. Google Docs works on anything. I have a couple template documents for some specific things like FOIA requests (e.g. ), but mostly it's a lot of copying previous filings that are similar (if simply to preserve formatting and stuff like the case caption) and rewriting them. I use OSX shortcut keys a lot. Control-command-space rarely; only for stuff like the pillcrow / paragraph symbol, which I think doesn't have a normal shortcut key. On Chrome, I find Tabs Outliner (paid version) super helpful for organizing active legal research into something like folders (e.g. one window for checking cases cited in opposing counsel's motion, one window per specific issue I need to research or manually Shepardize, etc). Otherwise I'd have hundreds of tabs open, instead of just dozens. (Not an exaggeration; that's what I did before I installed it.) Jumpcut is a nice little app that gives your clipboard history functionality. E.g. if I copy one thing, then copy another, I can press control-option-v, 2 to paste the first one. (Ordinarily it'd be just overridden by the new clipboard entry.) I use that very frequently. Again though, no idea about its accessibility. I use the terminal pretty frequently, including e.g. to do mass file renames (using a small Ruby program I wrote), search for documents, archive websites, scrape comments posted in Federal Register rulemakings (also with a Ruby script I wrote) etc, etc. However, unless you're very comfortable with Unix (and programming), that probably isn't going to be helpful to you. I think most of the other stuff I run isn't particularly drafting related — a lot of security / privacy software, various utilities, backups, etc. Sorry I can't be more helpful here. My blind experience mostly only include the part where you get whacked by signs and indoor stairs because there's no indication at cane level, not to stuff like JAWS. :-P - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote: > Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. I am certainly interested to hear this. > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to > this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Luis Mendez > Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac > > Sai: > > I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages > proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the > focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use > the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. > > I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. > Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if you > have time and the inclination to discuss this further. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Sai > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol > > What OS? > > Option-5 in OSX. > > - Sai > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: >> Blindlaw, >> >> It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. > Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? >> >> I would appreciate it. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Noel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 22:34:49 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:34:49 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <014601d26d24$16aa5e80$43ff1b80$@gmail.com> Sai: Thanks for the very informative input. I haven't tried Google Docs, and was not aware of NEO Office. I'll have to experiment with these programs. I do hope that others chime in with their experiences using Macs for legal work. Generally speaking, I really like the Mac hardware and appreciate Apple's pioneering work with universal design so I would like to continue to support that effort, but not at the expense of billable time. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:24 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sai Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac I actually compose everything in Google Docs, except when I have to review someone else's drafts, in which case I use NeoOffice (which is free). I have really extreme light sensitivity, but fairly normal acuity and no tunnel vision etc. Lighting completely controls whether I'm fully sighted or functionally blind. It's an issue for navigation (I use a guide cane and sunglasses / hat, sometimes a sleep mask if it's too bright). However, I generally use the computer like a sighted person. I just have the screen on low brightness and have a privacy shield installed (which dims it a bit more and also provides privacy from people trying to look at my screen from the side). I mainly only have to switch to voiceover mode if I'm outdoors in bright light, since then it's stabbingly painful to use my eyes. So, I'm afraid my experience probably isn't going to be very helpful to you from a blind perspective. I compose all my briefs fully sighted, just in very dim lighting. I don't use much for legal drafting that's OSX specific. Google Docs works on anything. I have a couple template documents for some specific things like FOIA requests (e.g. ), but mostly it's a lot of copying previous filings that are similar (if simply to preserve formatting and stuff like the case caption) and rewriting them. I use OSX shortcut keys a lot. Control-command-space rarely; only for stuff like the pillcrow / paragraph symbol, which I think doesn't have a normal shortcut key. On Chrome, I find Tabs Outliner (paid version) super helpful for organizing active legal research into something like folders (e.g. one window for checking cases cited in opposing counsel's motion, one window per specific issue I need to research or manually Shepardize, etc). Otherwise I'd have hundreds of tabs open, instead of just dozens. (Not an exaggeration; that's what I did before I installed it.) Jumpcut is a nice little app that gives your clipboard history functionality. E.g. if I copy one thing, then copy another, I can press control-option-v, 2 to paste the first one. (Ordinarily it'd be just overridden by the new clipboard entry.) I use that very frequently. Again though, no idea about its accessibility. I use the terminal pretty frequently, including e.g. to do mass file renames (using a small Ruby program I wrote), search for documents, archive websites, scrape comments posted in Federal Register rulemakings (also with a Ruby script I wrote) etc, etc. However, unless you're very comfortable with Unix (and programming), that probably isn't going to be helpful to you. I think most of the other stuff I run isn't particularly drafting related — a lot of security / privacy software, various utilities, backups, etc. Sorry I can't be more helpful here. My blind experience mostly only include the part where you get whacked by signs and indoor stairs because there's no indication at cane level, not to stuff like JAWS. :-P - Sai On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote: > Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. I am certainly interested to hear this. > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email > messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the > individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis > Mendez via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Luis Mendez > Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac > > Sai: > > I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting and using Pages > proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't solve the > focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still use > the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. > > I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the Mac. > Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if > you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai > via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Sai > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol > > What OS? > > Option-5 in OSX. > > - Sai > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw wrote: >> Blindlaw, >> >> It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. > Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? >> >> I would appreciate it. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Noel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wienner > gould.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From al.elia at aol.com Fri Jan 13 00:18:58 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:18:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac In-Reply-To: <014601d26d24$16aa5e80$43ff1b80$@gmail.com> References: <013601d26d16$197c72a0$4c7557e0$@gmail.com> <014601d26d24$16aa5e80$43ff1b80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85093288-AEC5-41D9-BAF1-E22BBA98450B@aol.com> I have found Nisus Writer PRo to be very accessible, and much easier to use than Pages or any of the free office products. I exclusively use VoiceOver on the mac. Word 2016 is somewhat accessible, but needs a lot of work in my opinion. I usually start off composing in Byword using markdown, as I find that easiest to navigate without initially worrying about formatting. I then use pandoc to convert that to a formatted word document, and use Nisus Writer to alter the formatting. It's not streamlineed, but it works pretty well for me. I still always have a sighted person check the formatting when I'm done, though. On 12 Jan 2017, at 17:34, Luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > Sai: > > Thanks for the very informative input. I haven't tried Google Docs, > and was not aware of NEO Office. I'll have to experiment with these > programs. I do hope that others chime in with their experiences using > Macs for legal work. Generally speaking, I really like the Mac > hardware and appreciate Apple's pioneering work with universal design > so I would like to continue to support that effort, but not at the > expense of billable time. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai > via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:24 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Sai > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac > > I actually compose everything in Google Docs, except when I have to > review someone else's drafts, in which case I use NeoOffice (which is > free). > > I have really extreme light sensitivity, but fairly normal acuity and > no tunnel vision etc. Lighting completely controls whether I'm fully > sighted or functionally blind. It's an issue for navigation (I use a > guide cane and sunglasses / hat, sometimes a sleep mask if it's too > bright). > > However, I generally use the computer like a sighted person. I just > have the screen on low brightness and have a privacy shield installed > (which dims it a bit more and also provides privacy from people trying > to look at my screen from the side). > > I mainly only have to switch to voiceover mode if I'm outdoors in > bright light, since then it's stabbingly painful to use my eyes. > > So, I'm afraid my experience probably isn't going to be very helpful > to you from a blind perspective. I compose all my briefs fully > sighted, just in very dim lighting. > > > I don't use much for legal drafting that's OSX specific. > > Google Docs works on anything. I have a couple template documents for > some specific things like FOIA requests (e.g. > ), but mostly it's a lot of copying > previous filings that are similar (if simply to preserve formatting > and stuff like the case caption) and rewriting them. > > I use OSX shortcut keys a lot. Control-command-space rarely; only for > stuff like the pillcrow / paragraph symbol, which I think doesn't have > a normal shortcut key. > > On Chrome, I find Tabs Outliner (paid version) super helpful for > organizing active legal research into something like folders (e.g. one > window for checking cases cited in opposing counsel's motion, one > window per specific issue I need to research or manually Shepardize, > etc). Otherwise I'd have hundreds of tabs open, instead of just > dozens. (Not an exaggeration; that's what I did before I installed > it.) > > Jumpcut is a nice little app that gives your clipboard history > functionality. E.g. if I copy one thing, then copy another, I can > press control-option-v, 2 to paste the first one. (Ordinarily it'd be > just overridden by the new clipboard entry.) I use that very > frequently. Again though, no idea about its accessibility. > > I use the terminal pretty frequently, including e.g. to do mass file > renames (using a small Ruby program I wrote), search for documents, > archive websites, scrape comments posted in Federal Register > rulemakings (also with a Ruby script I wrote) etc, etc. However, > unless you're very comfortable with Unix (and programming), that > probably isn't going to be helpful to you. > > I think most of the other stuff I run isn't particularly drafting > related — a lot of security / privacy software, various utilities, > backups, etc. > > > Sorry I can't be more helpful here. My blind experience mostly only > include the part where you get whacked by signs and indoor stairs > because there's no indication at cane level, not to stuff like JAWS. > :-P > > - Sai > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw > wrote: >> Please respond on the list, rather than off-line, so we can read it. >> I am certainly interested to hear this. >> >> >> >> Daniel K. Beitz >> Wienner & Gould, P.C. >> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 >> Rochester, MI 48307 >> Phone: (248) 841-9405 >> Fax: (248) 652-2729 >> dbeitz at wiennergould.com >> >> www.wiennergould.com >> >> >> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email >> messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is >> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the >> individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or >> distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or >> attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive >> this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying >> to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis >> Mendez via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Luis Mendez >> Subject: [blindlaw] Change of topic, Legal Work on the Mac >> >> Sai: >> >> I switched to the Mac for a while, but found that the review and >> production of complex legal documents using Text Edit was Limiting >> and using Pages >> proved challenging. I subscribed to Office 365, but that didn't >> solve the >> focus and other problems I encountered with the Mac O.S. I do still >> use >> the I.O.S. version while on the road, but have switched back to the >> Windows version of Office for heavy duty document production. >> >> I'm interested in your experiences with document production on the >> Mac. >> Please feel free to write me off-line at luismendez.law at gmail.com if >> you have time and the inclination to discuss this further. >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sai >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Sai >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol >> >> What OS? >> >> Option-5 in OSX. >> >> - Sai >> >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw >> wrote: >>> Blindlaw, >>> >>> It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in >>> Word. >> Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? >>> >>> I would appreciate it. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Noel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wienner >> gould.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/legal%40s.ai > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com From tim at timeldermusic.com Fri Jan 13 16:36:05 2017 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (Tim Elder) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:36:05 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Message-ID: <002d01d26dbb$22fa32e0$68ee98a0$@timeldermusic.com> Alternatively, you can set your own command in Word. I use alt SS. -----Original Message----- From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com [mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:00 PM To: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Noel, I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I’m not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From rene0373 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 17:36:17 2017 From: rene0373 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:36:17 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 Message-ID: I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. Elizabeth M René Attorney at Law WSBA #10710 KCBA #21824 rene0373 at gmail.com From al.elia at aol.com Fri Jan 13 17:59:16 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:59:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B8E86A7-719F-4872-9AC4-B09E86404250@aol.com> Do you find it easy to move between applications and/or documents when drafting? That has always been my hangup using the iPad, but I'd be grateful for an explanation of how, for example, you move between finding authority, reviewing authority, marking choice portions, and then copying/pasting quotes into a memo while composing. If you want to toss in the various apps you use in your workflow, that would be a most delicious icing. Much appreciated. Glad to hear someone has figured this out. On 13 Jan 2017, at 12:36, Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw wrote: > I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word > and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. > For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward > from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your > correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to > you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has > happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? > All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is > a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE > network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. > > Elizabeth M René > Attorney at Law > WSBA #10710 > KCBA #21824 > rene0373 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 18:24:05 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:24:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501d26dca$39bc9f90$ad35deb0$@gmail.com> Elizabeth: Do you use Dragon Anywhere for dictation on the IPAD? Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:36 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Elizabeth Rene Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. Elizabeth M René Attorney at Law WSBA #10710 KCBA #21824 rene0373 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 18:25:00 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:25:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 In-Reply-To: <9B8E86A7-719F-4872-9AC4-B09E86404250@aol.com> References: <9B8E86A7-719F-4872-9AC4-B09E86404250@aol.com> Message-ID: <000601d26dca$5ac22520$10466f60$@gmail.com> Yes it would! Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Al Elia via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:59 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Al Elia ; Elizabeth Rene Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 Do you find it easy to move between applications and/or documents when drafting? That has always been my hangup using the iPad, but I'd be grateful for an explanation of how, for example, you move between finding authority, reviewing authority, marking choice portions, and then copying/pasting quotes into a memo while composing. If you want to toss in the various apps you use in your workflow, that would be a most delicious icing. Much appreciated. Glad to hear someone has figured this out. On 13 Jan 2017, at 12:36, Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw wrote: > I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word > and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. > For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward > from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your > correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to > you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has > happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? > All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is > a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE > network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. > > Elizabeth M René > Attorney at Law > WSBA #10710 > KCBA #21824 > rene0373 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.co > m _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 18:39:43 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:39:43 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 In-Reply-To: <000601d26dca$5ac22520$10466f60$@gmail.com> References: <9B8E86A7-719F-4872-9AC4-B09E86404250@aol.com> <000601d26dca$5ac22520$10466f60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would laso love this info. I have a nice Bluetooth keyboard so could easily use my iPhone like this; can you get MS word for an iPhone? I've barely used pages, and haven't heard great things about it. On 1/13/17, Luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > Yes it would! > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Al Elia via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:59 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Al Elia ; Elizabeth Rene > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 > > Do you find it easy to move between applications and/or documents when > drafting? That has always been my hangup using the iPad, but I'd be grateful > for an explanation of how, for example, you move between finding authority, > reviewing authority, marking choice portions, and then copying/pasting > quotes into a memo while composing. If you want to toss in the various apps > you use in your workflow, that would be a most delicious icing. > > Much appreciated. Glad to hear someone has figured this out. > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 12:36, Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw wrote: > >> I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word >> and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. >> For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward >> from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your >> correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to >> you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has >> happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? >> All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is >> a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE >> network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. >> >> Elizabeth M René >> Attorney at Law >> WSBA #10710 >> KCBA #21824 >> rene0373 at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.co >> m > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Jan 13 18:42:37 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:42:37 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <002d01d26dbb$22fa32e0$68ee98a0$@timeldermusic.com> References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <002d01d26dbb$22fa32e0$68ee98a0$@timeldermusic.com> Message-ID: <001f01d26dcc$d0794490$716bcdb0$@sbgaal.com> How is that done? Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:36 AM To: mnowicki4 at icloud.com; 'Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw' Cc: Tim Elder Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Alternatively, you can set your own command in Word. I use alt SS. -----Original Message----- From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com [mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:00 PM To: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Noel, I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I’m not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Fri Jan 13 18:47:10 2017 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:47:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol In-Reply-To: <001f01d26dcc$d0794490$716bcdb0$@sbgaal.com> References: <0OJO006AQNL1C530@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <002d01d26dbb$22fa32e0$68ee98a0$@timeldermusic.com> <001f01d26dcc$d0794490$716bcdb0$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: You go under file options, customize ribbon. There is a customize button. In the categories, you should select common symbols. Then there will be a list of symbols and you can over and create a hot key. I just did it, and it works great. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:43 PM To: tim at timeldermusic.com; 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol How is that done? Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:36 AM To: mnowicki4 at icloud.com; 'Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw' Cc: Tim Elder Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Alternatively, you can set your own command in Word. I use alt SS. -----Original Message----- From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com [mailto:mnowicki4 at icloud.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:00 PM To: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Noel, I use Alt Plus 0167 on the number pad on my desktop. I’m not sure if there is a keyboard shortcut that will work on a Windows laptop without the number pad. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindlaw] Keyboard strokes for section symbol Blindlaw, It's been a long time since I needed to use the section symbol in Word. Can someone tell me the keyboard strokes that I use? I would appreciate it. Thank you, Noel _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jan 13 21:30:33 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:30:33 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] =?windows-1252?q?=7BDisarmed=7D_Department_of_Justice_?= =?windows-1252?q?Issues_a_Notice_of_Proposed_Rulemaking_to_Amend_the_Depa?= =?windows-1252?q?rtment=92s_Regulation_Implementing_Section_504_of_the_Re?= =?windows-1252?q?habilitation_Act_of_1973?= In-Reply-To: <17880931.31332@public.govdelivery.com> References: <17880931.31332@public.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: From: U.S. Department of Justice [mailto:usdoj at public.govdelivery.com] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:19 PM Subject: Department of Justice Issues a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Amend the Department’s Regulation Implementing Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 This week the Attorney General signed a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) soliciting public comments regarding its proposal to revise and update its regulation implementing Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (section 504) for programs or activities receiving financial assistance from the Department of Justice. Since the Department first promulgated its section 504 Federally assisted regulation in 1980, there have been a number of major changes to the country’s disability laws. As a result, the existing regulation does not reflect several statutory changes to the Rehabilitation Act, the enactment of the ADA (the principles and policies of which are shared by section 504), and some key Supreme Court decisions interpreting section 504 requirements. The Department is proposing to incorporate into its proposed section 504 Federally assisted regulation definitions and requirements arising out of these statutory amendments to the Rehabilitation Act, title II of the ADA, and longstanding Supreme Court decisions. The NPRM will soon be published in the Federal Register, and the comment period for the proposed rule closes 60 days after the date of the NPRM’s publication. 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Does anybody know how accessible this is? From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:07:33 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:07:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] communicating/networking with style workshops during Washington Seminar Message-ID: <018b01d26e99$7632fb70$6298f250$@gmail.com> Please see below for two great networking workshops organized by the Virginia Potomac Chapter to be held at the Holiday Inn Capitol on Sunday, January 29th before the start of Washington Seminar. These will be lead by the world renown speaker Mary Crane, innovator of the Rules of Engagement seminar (bio below). "MANY COMMUNICATE- FEW CONNECT" "Don't miss this unique opportunity for professional development. Whether you are a student, a young professional, or well along in your career, you will benefit immensely from these two workshops." Rules of Engagement - If you have ever been stymied by the prospect of attending a networking event or a reception, you're not alone. Walking into a room filled with dozens of people who you have never before met can be overwhelming for new entrants to the workforce and established professionals alike. This program will give you ten "rules" that will help you make the most of any Washington D.C. business-social event, including how to prepare for and navigate the events, and most importantly, how to follow up and build relationships with your new important contacts. Communicating with Style - Some studies suggest that fully 85% of your success is directly linked to your ability to effectively communicate. Yet, few professionals receive any formal training in basic communication skills. This highly interactive 90-minute program is an introduction to communication styles. Because your communication style is based, in part, on your behavioral style preference, we'll use the DISC assessment tool to help you identify your individual behavioral style preference. Then, we'll turn our attention to the people with whom you work and give you some clues to help you identify their behavioral style preferences, too. Highlighting points of commonality and potential conflict, we'll focus on adjustments that you can make to enhance your communications with others. Mary R. Crane. Esq. A graduate of George Washington University's National Law Center, Mary Crane practiced law and lobbied in Washington D.C. for nearly ten years. Working first for the American Petroleum Institute and then with the American Heart Association, Crane specialized in non-profit tax issues. In the early 1990s she decided to pursue her life-long fascinations in food and wine. With these interests in mind, she spent two years exploring the world of gastronomy at the prestigious Culinary Institute of America, from which she graduated with honors. Crane further gained certification as a sommelier from the Court of Master Sommeliers London, England. Immediately thereafter, she began work as an assistant chef at the White House. Crane left the professional kitchen and approached law firms with her innovative program, "The Rules of Engagement." That seminar provided participants with the rules they needed to successfully work receptions and navigate the more formal dining setting. Since then, Crane has expanded the training programs she offers to include many of the other practical business skills all professionals need to succeed. Her programs cover a broad range of skill sets including: getting the most out of networking events and receptions, managing business lunches and dinners, communicating effectively via paper or e-mail, interacting effectively with other behavioral styles at work, bridging the generation and gender gaps, and working ethically. Crane's clients include many Fortune 500 companies and more than 50% of the AmLaw100. She is a frequent speaker at national conferences, and has appeared on 60 Minutes, Fox Business News, and ABC Radio. She makes monthly guest appearances on Let's Talk Live, a Washington, D.C. televised ABC-affiliate program. Crane has also been quoted extensively in a variety of print and electronic media, including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes.com, Fortune.com, and CNN.com This highly-anticipated seminar will take place on Sunday, January 29, 2017 at the Holiday Inn Capitol located on 550 C Street SW Washington DC in the House Room to be held at 3:00 to 6:15pm. Please join us with this world renown speaker who will be offering her expertise at a nominal fee of $15 for each 90-minute session or $20 for both. Sponsored by the Potomac Chapter/National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Facilitated by Mary Crane, Esq.,?creator of the 100 Things You Need To Know book series, which provides people entering the workforce with crucial information in easy-to-absorb, almost tweetable chunks. The series currently includes Starting Work and Networking. mary at marycrane.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-crane-2003939 Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 14 21:19:23 2017 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:19:23 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer Message-ID: Good afternoon: Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? If so, what is the accessibility of the program? Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Sat Jan 14 21:26:55 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:26:55 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B3E2765-C865-49AF-919F-FF40D17B0CE7@driowa.org> It is web-based and completely accessible the last I used it. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: Good afternoon: Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? If so, what is the accessibility of the program? Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 14 21:47:00 2017 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:47:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer In-Reply-To: <4B3E2765-C865-49AF-919F-FF40D17B0CE7@driowa.org> References: <4B3E2765-C865-49AF-919F-FF40D17B0CE7@driowa.org> Message-ID: Thanks, how do you download documents like complaints or orders? Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com On 14 Jan 2017, at 16:26, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > wrote: It is web-based and completely accessible the last I used it. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: Good afternoon: Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? If so, what is the accessibility of the program? Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Sat Jan 14 22:01:04 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 22:01:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer In-Reply-To: References: <4B3E2765-C865-49AF-919F-FF40D17B0CE7@driowa.org>, Message-ID: I haven't used it for a while because my legal assistant typically downloads things from pacer, but last I used it, you could right click on the links to the documents to download them or use the context menu key on the keyboard. If you hit enter on the links, the documents would open. They are all in PDF format in various states of accessibility as is true with most documents. I could usually run them through an OCR program and they were legible, but often that wasn't even necessary. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: Thanks, how do you download documents like complaints or orders? Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com On 14 Jan 2017, at 16:26, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > wrote: It is web-based and completely accessible the last I used it. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: Good afternoon: Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? If so, what is the accessibility of the program? Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 14 22:46:56 2017 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 22:46:56 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer In-Reply-To: References: <4B3E2765-C865-49AF-919F-FF40D17B0CE7@driowa.org>, , Message-ID: Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > I haven't used it for a while because my legal assistant typically downloads things from pacer, but last I used it, you could right click on the links to the documents to download them or use the context menu key on the keyboard. If you hit enter on the links, the documents would open. They are all in PDF format in various states of accessibility as is true with most documents. I could usually run them through an OCR program and they were legible, but often that wasn't even necessary. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Thanks, how do you download documents like complaints or orders? > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > On 14 Jan 2017, at 16:26, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > wrote: > > It is web-based and completely accessible the last I used it. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Good afternoon: > > Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? > > If so, what is the accessibility of the program? > > Regards. > Marcos Rodrigues > mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrodrigues81%40hotmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Sat Jan 14 23:35:51 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:35:51 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004b01d26ebe$f25453a0$d6fcfae0$@sbgaal.com> Pacer has one sign in and ECF has a second sign in i.e. you will have to have 2 separate passwords. Pacer is used to view documents and ECF is used to file documents. Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Marcos Rodrigues Subject: [blindlaw] Pacer Good afternoon: Has someone used Pacer to file/read court documents? If so, what is the accessibility of the program? Regards. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 14:47:50 2017 From: shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com (Shelley Richards) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:47:50 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 In-Reply-To: References: <9B8E86A7-719F-4872-9AC4-B09E86404250@aol.com> <000601d26dca$5ac22520$10466f60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have not really noticed any significant difference between IOS 9 and IOS 10 for dictation purposes. However, I only ever use dictation for texting, shorter emails, and occationally facebook. I also randomly use it to type in words I just can't figure out how to spell lol. For anything more than a short message I use a Bluetooth keyboard. I would suggest though, if you are using dictation more extensively you might want to try dragon dictation. I played around with the app a little, and it seems to be more accurate than the built in dictation, and I have heard that it works better for dictating more extensively. How do you find Pages to be, as far as easy to work with? I have tried it a few times, and I have always found it frustrating to work with. Not necessarily because of accessibility issues, but just because I cannot get comfortable with its entire set up. There may be accessibility issues at play too, but I don't think so. I always find myself just giving up on it and going back to word instead. Do you eventually get better at using it, or is it truly just not as good of a word processor as MS word is? On 1/13/17, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > I would laso love this info. I have a nice Bluetooth keyboard so could > easily use my iPhone like this; can you get MS word for an iPhone? > I've barely used pages, and haven't heard great things about it. > > On 1/13/17, Luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: >> Yes it would! >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Al Elia >> via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:59 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Al Elia ; Elizabeth Rene >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Legal work in iOS 10 >> >> Do you find it easy to move between applications and/or documents when >> drafting? That has always been my hangup using the iPad, but I'd be >> grateful >> for an explanation of how, for example, you move between finding >> authority, >> reviewing authority, marking choice portions, and then copying/pasting >> quotes into a memo while composing. If you want to toss in the various >> apps >> you use in your workflow, that would be a most delicious icing. >> >> Much appreciated. Glad to hear someone has figured this out. >> >> On 13 Jan 2017, at 12:36, Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw wrote: >> >>> I do all of my legal work on my iPad, and love using it with MS Word >>> and Pages. Much easier than on the Mac. But I'm not a fan of iOS 10. >>> For accessibility purposes and dictation, it's a big step backward >>> from iOS 9. Also, if you dictate, edit with scrupulous caution. Your >>> correctly dictated text can change seconds after it's spoken back to >>> you, and the results are sometimes crude and even obscene. This has >>> happened in iOS 9 too. What kind of bug can there be in the program? >>> All that said, if you're careful, and these days patient, the iPad is >>> a great writing tool. Also, the iPad Pro lets you work over the LTE >>> network, which is way more secure than Wi-Fi. >>> >>> Elizabeth M René >>> Attorney at Law >>> WSBA #10710 >>> KCBA #21824 >>> rene0373 at gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/al.elia%40aol.co >>> m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shelleyrichards9%40gmail.com -- Thank You Shelley Palmadessa shelleyrichards9 at gmail.com From legal at s.ai Wed Jan 18 17:42:40 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:42:40 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: U.S. Access Board Publishes Updated ICT Requirements in the Federal Register In-Reply-To: <17119411.8670@service.govdelivery.com> References: <17119411.8670@service.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: Same as before, now in the Federal Register: < https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/18/2017-00395/information-and-communication-technology-ict-standards-and-guidelines > - Sai ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: United States Access Board Date: Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:38 PM Subject: U.S. Access Board Publishes Updated ICT Requirements in the Federal Register To: govdelivery at saizai.com *U.S. Access Board Publishes Updated ICT Requirements in the Federal Register* [image: Section 508 and 255 Refresh with reload icon]In today's *Federal Resister*, the U.S. Access Board published a final rule that updates accessibility requirements for information and communication technology (ICT) covered by Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act and Section 255 of the Communications Act. The Board released an advance copy of the rule on its website last week. The rule jointly updates and reorganizes the Section 508 standards and Section 255 guidelines to advance accessibility, facilitate compliance, and harmonize the requirements with other standards in the U.S. and abroad. The Section 508 standards apply to ICT procured, developed, maintained, or used by federal agencies. The Communications Act guidelines cover telephones, cell phones, pagers, computers with modems and other telecommunications equipment. Further information, including an overview of the rule, is available on the Board's website . From darren.keepers at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 19:00:53 2017 From: darren.keepers at gmail.com (Darren Keepers) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:00:53 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] Court Reporting/Stenography Message-ID: Dear list members, I am looking into court reporting/stenography schools in the Los Angeles area and online. I wanted to contact this list to see if anybody is or knows somebody who is involved in this field? I am mainly interested in finding visually impaired individuals who are going to school or who have already entered the field, but I'm willing to talk to anybody who can give me feedback. I want to get a good idea of what technology I'll need to work with the Stenographs and other Steno software. I have heard that the training can tend to be inaccessible, but I'd like to get more opinions on that statement. I'm also wondering if a campus based option is better than online or not. Thanks in advance for all the help and take care. -- Best Regards, Darren Keepers From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 15:05:38 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:05:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns Message-ID: All, I am doing an internship that involves, among other things, analyzing clients' tax returns. While the IRS has a lot of accessible forms that I am able to fill out, it's more difficult to read previous tax returns that are already complete. I have Kurzweil, but using OCR doesn't always work that well since it doesn't catch things like checked or unchecked boxes. Does anyone know of a solution besides obtaining a reader? We're having some trouble doing that at the moment. From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu Jan 19 15:11:38 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:38 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not found any reliable alternatives to resolve this issue, other than human readers. I recommend finding a paid or volunteer reader and having them sign a release stating they will keep all client information confidential. You may be able to find a retired attorney or paralegal to assist, but legal expertise is not required. You could easily train a reader to skim documents and provide you with the information you need. Check with your state's radio reading service to see if they have any readers in mind, or post an ad locally or online. You may be able to find an undergraduate student who needs volunteer hours, and reading could count toward their requirement. Best of luck. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:06 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: kelby carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns All, I am doing an internship that involves, among other things, analyzing clients' tax returns. While the IRS has a lot of accessible forms that I am able to fill out, it's more difficult to read previous tax returns that are already complete. I have Kurzweil, but using OCR doesn't always work that well since it doesn't catch things like checked or unchecked boxes. Does anyone know of a solution besides obtaining a reader? We're having some trouble doing that at the moment. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 15:16:29 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:16:29 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Luckily I'm doing this through my school, so I will probably be able to find one that way; we're still working on it. On 1/19/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I have not found any reliable alternatives to resolve this issue, other than > human readers. I recommend finding a paid or volunteer reader and having > them sign a release stating they will keep all client information > confidential. You may be able to find a retired attorney or paralegal to > assist, but legal expertise is not required. You could easily train a reader > to skim documents and provide you with the information you need. Check with > your state's radio reading service to see if they have any readers in mind, > or post an ad locally or online. You may be able to find an undergraduate > student who needs volunteer hours, and reading could count toward their > requirement. Best of luck. > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby > carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:06 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns > > All, > > I am doing an internship that involves, among other things, analyzing > clients' tax returns. While the IRS has a lot of accessible forms that I am > able to fill out, it's more difficult to read previous tax returns that are > already complete. I have Kurzweil, but using OCR doesn't always work that > well since it doesn't catch things like checked or unchecked boxes. Does > anyone know of a solution besides obtaining a reader? We're having some > trouble doing that at the moment. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu Jan 19 15:19:31 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:19:31 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My law school's dean of students was very helpful in locating readers. She would allow some of her research assistants to help with this from time to time. Check with your dean, and also check with your student disability services office to see if they can recruit or recommend someone. I recommend interviewing readers on your own so that you can ensure you are getting the best reader possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:16 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: kelby carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Tax Returns Luckily I'm doing this through my school, so I will probably be able to find one that way; we're still working on it. On 1/19/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I have not found any reliable alternatives to resolve this issue, > other than human readers. I recommend finding a paid or volunteer > reader and having them sign a release stating they will keep all > client information confidential. You may be able to find a retired > attorney or paralegal to assist, but legal expertise is not required. > You could easily train a reader to skim documents and provide you with > the information you need. Check with your state's radio reading > service to see if they have any readers in mind, or post an ad locally > or online. You may be able to find an undergraduate student who needs > volunteer hours, and reading could count toward their requirement. Best of luck. > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby > carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:06 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Tax Returns > > All, > > I am doing an internship that involves, among other things, analyzing > clients' tax returns. While the IRS has a lot of accessible forms that > I am able to fill out, it's more difficult to read previous tax > returns that are already complete. I have Kurzweil, but using OCR > doesn't always work that well since it doesn't catch things like > checked or unchecked boxes. Does anyone know of a solution besides > obtaining a reader? We're having some trouble doing that at the moment. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g > mail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From legal at s.ai Fri Jan 20 00:26:04 2017 From: legal at s.ai (Sai) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:26:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: U.S. Access Board Webinar (Jan. 31 and Feb. 2): Final Rule Updating the Section 508 Standards and Section 255 Guidelines In-Reply-To: <17119671.15942@service.govdelivery.com> References: <17119671.15942@service.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: United States Access Board Date: Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 7:00 PM Subject: U.S. Access Board Webinar (Jan. 31 and Feb. 2): Final Rule Updating the Section 508 Standards and Section 255 Guidelines *U.S. Access Board Webinar (Jan. 31 and Feb. 2): Final Rule Updating the Section 508 Standards and Section 255 Guidelines * [image: laptop with Access Board seal]The U.S. Access Board will conduct a free webinar on its recent final rule updating accessibility requirements for information and communication technology covered by Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act and Section 255 of the Communications Act. The webinar will take place on *January 31* from *1:00 *to* 2:30 (ET). *It will be repeated on *February 2* from *2:30 to 4:00 (ET)*, but registration is limited. Both webinars will be recorded and archived. Presenters will provide an overview of the rule's scope and structure, highlight substantive changes, and answer questions from attendees. The Section 508 Standards apply to electronic and information technology developed, procured, maintained or used by the federal government. The Section 255 Guidelines address access to telecommunications products and services and apply to manufacturers of telecommunications equipment. For further information or to register, follow these links: • January 31 webinar: www.accessibilityonline.org/cioc- 508/session/?id=110610 • February 2 webinar: www.accessibilityonline.org/ao/session/?id=110588 The webinars are provided by the ADA National Network and the Accessibility Community of Practice of the CIO Council in partnership with the Access Board. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 03:21:30 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:21:30 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Message-ID: Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 09:59:21 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:59:21 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FB42EB2-FAE9-4184-A7CA-B8A825985926@gmail.com> Good morning, Although, if anyone would be willing to discuss it on the list, it would certainly help the rest of us. Warmth, J > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:21 PM, Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw wrote: > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jan 20 13:34:26 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:34:26 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many things in life, there is no single approach that is the most eeffective for all individuals. Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw. com From JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM Fri Jan 20 20:21:54 2017 From: JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM (Loevy, Joshua L. (LG)) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:21:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos and documents. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Scott C. Labarre Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many things in life, there is no single approach that is the most eeffective for all individuals. Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots_MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= . com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= From ttomasi at driowa.org Fri Jan 20 20:36:06 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:36:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos and documents. Joshua Loevy Associate Lathrop & Gage LLP Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO 63105 P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM www.lathropgage.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. Labarre via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Scott C. Labarre Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many things in life, there is no single approach that is the most eeffective for all individuals. Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots_MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= . com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 23:29:55 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:29:55 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loevy, > Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos and > documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) is > confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and (2) may be > protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work product doctrine > or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or > forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can all > benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many things in > life, there is no single approach that is the most eeffective for all > individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on > how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off > list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots_MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3BffbLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:41:09 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:41:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> Message-ID: <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial practice clinic in law school. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos > and documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) > is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and > (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work > product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or > distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can > all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many > things in life, there is no single approach that is the most > eeffective for all individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M > ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz > fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots > _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z > q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj > krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU > 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Sat Jan 21 21:57:19 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:57:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018801d27431$570f5d90$052e18b0$@sbgaal.com> The most difficult part for me is voir dire. I practice criminal defense in Texas. Vision is really important in determining how jurors feel about you, your client, the type of case etc. I always have sighted attorney and non attorney assistance for voir dire. I conduct the voir dire, but I need those with vision to let me know the facial expressions, the dress, the attentiveness etc. that are shown visually rather than spoken. I have also been told that I probably would be given more latitude by judges to shake the jurors hands during voir dire etc. I haven't tried this yet, but think it is an interesting idea. During the trial itself, I have the topics I want to cover on my computer so that I can make sure I cover everything. I also usually have a young attorney looking for experience sit second chair to pick up on what is visually going on juror reactions as well as witness reactions, judge's reactions and the prosecutor's reactions. It is challenging, but I think I probably pick up on what is said and other audio cues more than a sighted attorney so that is helpful. I would love to hear what others have learned. As far as exhibits, it is important to be organized! Many times I ask to have my assistant be allowed to approach with the exhibit etc. Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 21 22:28:12 2017 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:28:12 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <018801d27431$570f5d90$052e18b0$@sbgaal.com> References: <018801d27431$570f5d90$052e18b0$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <038c01d27435$a7c88230$f7598690$@sbcglobal.net> Ger: I second most everything Shannon says. Over a 23 year period, I tried about 100 criminal trials as a prosecutor and defense attorney. Voir dire was my second favorite aspect of trial, second to final argument. It is all but necessary to have a sighted assistant to help with notes and reading body language of the venire panel. I also strongly encouraged the client to take notes, observe the venire panel's body language and participate in making strikes. Shannon could not be more right about being organized, and I will add prepared. A very wise, and talented, older attorney that I clerked for during law school, had a talk with me one day about being prepared. He was adamant about one's ability to "out prepare" the other side. During my years, I found that opponents, especially prosecutors, felt they had an easy trial because of my blindness. No opponent ever made this mistake twice. I second Shannon's advice to be organized and to have sighted assistance with evidentiary exhibits. However, I prefer the practice of approaching the witness myself to present an exhibit to be offered, rather than having the assistant do so. Being blind, we need take advantage of any, and every, weapon in our arsenal of tricks. Where I practice, the prosecution always has two prosecutors at trial and, in felonies, sometimes three. Well, I managed to do pretty well gaining brownie points with the jury by struggling with approaching the witness stand and discussing exhibits, turning the table on the witness to assist me therewith. The brownie points came through my struggles in tandem with the jury's perception that the state had 2, or 3, sighted lawyers beating up on this struggling, blind attorney. In a trial, we are all looking for a level playing field, and my approach always helped with leveling the field in the eyes of the jurors. Otherwise, there is absolutely no substitute for being organized and being prepared. Best regards, Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? The most difficult part for me is voir dire. I practice criminal defense in Texas. Vision is really important in determining how jurors feel about you, your client, the type of case etc. I always have sighted attorney and non attorney assistance for voir dire. I conduct the voir dire, but I need those with vision to let me know the facial expressions, the dress, the attentiveness etc. that are shown visually rather than spoken. I have also been told that I probably would be given more latitude by judges to shake the jurors hands during voir dire etc. I haven't tried this yet, but think it is an interesting idea. During the trial itself, I have the topics I want to cover on my computer so that I can make sure I cover everything. I also usually have a young attorney looking for experience sit second chair to pick up on what is visually going on juror reactions as well as witness reactions, judge's reactions and the prosecutor's reactions. It is challenging, but I think I probably pick up on what is said and other audio cues more than a sighted attorney so that is helpful. I would love to hear what others have learned. As far as exhibits, it is important to be organized! Many times I ask to have my assistant be allowed to approach with the exhibit etc. Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From sbg at sbgaal.com Sat Jan 21 22:41:50 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:41:50 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <038c01d27435$a7c88230$f7598690$@sbcglobal.net> References: <018801d27431$570f5d90$052e18b0$@sbgaal.com> <038c01d27435$a7c88230$f7598690$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01b601d27437$8ea97820$abfc6860$@sbgaal.com> Dan, I like your idea of approaching the witness yourself. I'll try it Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:28 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Daniel McBride Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Ger: I second most everything Shannon says. Over a 23 year period, I tried about 100 criminal trials as a prosecutor and defense attorney. Voir dire was my second favorite aspect of trial, second to final argument. It is all but necessary to have a sighted assistant to help with notes and reading body language of the venire panel. I also strongly encouraged the client to take notes, observe the venire panel's body language and participate in making strikes. Shannon could not be more right about being organized, and I will add prepared. A very wise, and talented, older attorney that I clerked for during law school, had a talk with me one day about being prepared. He was adamant about one's ability to "out prepare" the other side. During my years, I found that opponents, especially prosecutors, felt they had an easy trial because of my blindness. No opponent ever made this mistake twice. I second Shannon's advice to be organized and to have sighted assistance with evidentiary exhibits. However, I prefer the practice of approaching the witness myself to present an exhibit to be offered, rather than having the assistant do so. Being blind, we need take advantage of any, and every, weapon in our arsenal of tricks. Where I practice, the prosecution always has two prosecutors at trial and, in felonies, sometimes three. Well, I managed to do pretty well gaining brownie points with the jury by struggling with approaching the witness stand and discussing exhibits, turning the table on the witness to assist me therewith. The brownie points came through my struggles in tandem with the jury's perception that the state had 2, or 3, sighted lawyers beating up on this struggling, blind attorney. In a trial, we are all looking for a level playing field, and my approach always helped with leveling the field in the eyes of the jurors. Otherwise, there is absolutely no substitute for being organized and being prepared. Best regards, Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? The most difficult part for me is voir dire. I practice criminal defense in Texas. Vision is really important in determining how jurors feel about you, your client, the type of case etc. I always have sighted attorney and non attorney assistance for voir dire. I conduct the voir dire, but I need those with vision to let me know the facial expressions, the dress, the attentiveness etc. that are shown visually rather than spoken. I have also been told that I probably would be given more latitude by judges to shake the jurors hands during voir dire etc. I haven't tried this yet, but think it is an interesting idea. During the trial itself, I have the topics I want to cover on my computer so that I can make sure I cover everything. I also usually have a young attorney looking for experience sit second chair to pick up on what is visually going on juror reactions as well as witness reactions, judge's reactions and the prosecutor's reactions. It is challenging, but I think I probably pick up on what is said and other audio cues more than a sighted attorney so that is helpful. I would love to hear what others have learned. As far as exhibits, it is important to be organized! Many times I ask to have my assistant be allowed to approach with the exhibit etc. Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:22 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Dear all, I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? Thanks Ger _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Sun Jan 22 00:42:01 2017 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (mike mcglashon) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:42:01 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] trial advocacy Message-ID: <7962DAD70198485BB1E51BAB710AC04B@mcglashonHP> Hi Guys: I am a totally blind paralegal who works for a totally blind attorney. We, like Mr. Dan and Ms Shannon, also do much criminal work involving vvoir diring of prospective jurors. Since both counsel and myself go over the preliminary questionaires before trial, we come up with additional individualized questions in order to engage the juror in conversation; we get a better read on their demeanor. Using all that coupled with eyes from the booth, (sighted assistance), we then use a 5 point scoring system, (worst to first) sort of thing to prioritize them. This has been a great thread. I’ll share about exhibits when that topic comes up. Mike M. From helen.fernety at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 02:03:50 2017 From: helen.fernety at gmail.com (Helen Fernety) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:03:50 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Menus4ALL - ADA and WCAG compliant Resturant Menus Message-ID: <4691A12E-D2C2-4796-9D81-DCFFD2A4499E@gmail.com> Hello, I promise not to spam you group. But wanted to make you aware of a new AT mobile app we are working to bring to market. For 18 months I have been brainstorming ideas on how to use technology to improve the lives of folks with visual impairments. Long story short I have a team and a partnership with World Services for the Blind. Feb 3 we are launching a 60 day IndieGoGo crowdsourcing campaign to fund the development cost of a mobile app called Menus4All. It will be built with assistive technologies to help folks with low vision and no vision read Resturant menus. Every menu will be ADA and WCAG compliant. We are looking to partner with a firm(s) that have clients already in the restaurant sector how would see the value of our product to limit litigation and generate goodwill for their branding. Additionally we are looking for inventors. Please spread the word about Menus4ALL. Press Kit Power Point - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bh705bdi2zye6px/Menus4ALL%20Press%20Kit2_alttext.zip?dl=0 Investor Pitch Video (Dec 13) - https://www.facebook.com/menus4all/videos/2028536504039696/ Website - http://menus4all.com Helen Fernety CEO ShopABLED, LLD Little Rock, AR 501-590-6723 From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 13:28:06 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 08:28:06 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] trial advocacy In-Reply-To: <7962DAD70198485BB1E51BAB710AC04B@mcglashonHP> References: <7962DAD70198485BB1E51BAB710AC04B@mcglashonHP> Message-ID: Good morning, all, It's surprising to me how vital sighted assistance is considered to be. Why don't you use braille to mark exhibits, stay organized, take notes, etc? A wonderful and educational thread. Thank you! J From davant1958 at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 13:45:28 2017 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (denise avant) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:45:28 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Deepa, You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. Denise R. Avant, President National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial practice clinic in law school. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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(LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos > and documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) > is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and > (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work > product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or > distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can > all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many > things in life, there is no single approach that is the most > eeffective for all individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M > ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz > fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots > _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z > q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj > krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU > 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 14:12:04 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 09:12:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: All, It appears that my reply didn't go through, but I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post. I'm surprised by how vital sighted assistance is considered in the courtroom. Why don't you choose to use braille to mark exhibits, stay organized, take notes, etc? Thank you for the wonderful and educational thread! J On 1/22/17, denise avant via BlindLaw wrote: > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a > good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial > practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone > is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After > all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If >> you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately >> and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives >> or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos >> and documents. >> >> >> >> Joshua Loevy >> Associate >> Lathrop & Gage LLP >> Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO >> 63105 >> P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM >> www.lathropgage.com >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) >> is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and >> (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work >> product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or >> distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact > the sender and delete all copies. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. >> Labarre via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Scott C. Labarre >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to > discuss. >> I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can >> all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to >> discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO >> 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol >> d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff >> bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your >> account info for >> BlindLaw: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M >> ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz >> fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots >> _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= >> . >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO >> 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol >> d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff >> bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your >> account info for >> BlindLaw: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z >> q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj >> krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU >> 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa >> .org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com > -- J Steele-Louchart I Will Find A Way or I Will Make One From al.elia at aol.com Sun Jan 22 15:33:01 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C7AB5AA9BD2071B.EAA321D3-9818-4875-B9C6-0615D642A093@mail.outlook.com> Dear Jay, Have you ever litigated a trial? Get Outlook for iOS On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:13 AM -0500, "J Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw" wrote: All, It appears that my reply didn't go through, but I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post. I'm surprised by how vital sighted assistance is considered in the courtroom. Why don't you choose to use braille to mark exhibits, stay organized, take notes, etc? Thank you for the wonderful and educational thread! J On 1/22/17, denise avant via BlindLaw wrote: > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a > good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial > practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone > is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After > all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. 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(LG) >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos >> and documents. >> >> >> >> Joshua Loevy >> Associate >> Lathrop & Gage LLP >> Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO >> 63105 >> P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM >> www.lathropgage.com >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) >> is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and >> (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work >> product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or >> distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact > the sender and delete all copies. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. >> Labarre via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Scott C. Labarre >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to > discuss. >> I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can >> all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. 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In-Reply-To: <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601d274c8$a9232660$fb697320$@sbcglobal.net> Deepa: I have two recommendations for trial advocacy seminars. Jerry Spence, the famous lawyer in Jackson Hole, Wyoming has an incredible trial seminar in Jackson Hole annually. Though I have never been able to attend, I know others that have and it is said to be the most incredible seminar these people have ever attended. Also, there is a trial advocacy skills course held every Spring in Huntsville, Texas by the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. It starts Sunday afternoon and runs through Friday afternoon. I did attend this course in 1992, and I highly recommend it to everyone. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:45 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: denise avant Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Deepa, You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. Denise R. Avant, President National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial practice clinic in law school. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos > and documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) > is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and > (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work > product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or > distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can > all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many > things in life, there is no single approach that is the most > eeffective for all individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M > ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz > fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots > _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z > q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj > krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU > 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 22 16:19:54 2017 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:19:54 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001c01d274cb$5e649980$1b2dcc80$@sbcglobal.net> J: To answer your questions in writing would take far more time than I have to write. I can speak much faster. You are welcome to call and I am glad to share my personal thoughts in response to your inquiry. Daniel McBride 817-847-0023 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of J Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: J Steele-Louchart Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All, It appears that my reply didn't go through, but I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post. I'm surprised by how vital sighted assistance is considered in the courtroom. Why don't you choose to use braille to mark exhibits, stay organized, take notes, etc? Thank you for the wonderful and educational thread! J On 1/22/17, denise avant via BlindLaw wrote: > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a > good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial > practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone > is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After > all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. 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(LG) >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos >> and documents. >> >> >> >> Joshua Loevy >> Associate >> Lathrop & Gage LLP >> Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO >> 63105 >> P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM >> www.lathropgage.com >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) >> is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and >> (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work >> product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or >> distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact > the sender and delete all copies. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. >> Labarre via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Scott C. Labarre >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to > discuss. >> I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can >> all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. 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In-Reply-To: <001601d274c8$a9232660$fb697320$@sbcglobal.net> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <001601d274c8$a9232660$fb697320$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00b801d274cd$b1456b00$13d04100$@gmail.com> Thanks Daniel. I'll look into those. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:01 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Daniel McBride Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Deepa: I have two recommendations for trial advocacy seminars. Jerry Spence, the famous lawyer in Jackson Hole, Wyoming has an incredible trial seminar in Jackson Hole annually. Though I have never been able to attend, I know others that have and it is said to be the most incredible seminar these people have ever attended. Also, there is a trial advocacy skills course held every Spring in Huntsville, Texas by the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. It starts Sunday afternoon and runs through Friday afternoon. I did attend this course in 1992, and I highly recommend it to everyone. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:45 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: denise avant Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Deepa, You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. Denise R. Avant, President National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial practice clinic in law school. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos > and documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) > is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and > (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work > product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or > distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can > all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many > things in life, there is no single approach that is the most > eeffective for all individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M > ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz > fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots > _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z > q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj > krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU > 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om From sbg at sbgaal.com Sun Jan 22 22:06:32 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:06:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01d274fb$cb8107d0$62831770$@sbgaal.com> Staying organized is crucial; marking the exhibits with braille is important, but there is no way I would feel I did my client justice without having sighted assistance for voire dire. Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of J Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: J Steele-Louchart Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All, It appears that my reply didn't go through, but I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post. I'm surprised by how vital sighted assistance is considered in the courtroom. Why don't you choose to use braille to mark exhibits, stay organized, take notes, etc? Thank you for the wonderful and educational thread! J On 1/22/17, denise avant via BlindLaw wrote: > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a > good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial > practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone > is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After > all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. 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Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. 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I've witnessed as a law clerk and as a summer associate in a law firm a number of trials. In those trials, I've seen only one case where the lawyers did not make use of assistants. It was a federal civil jury trial, and a very knowledgeable person referred to it as "the most disorganized mess I've ever seen," and, "a prime example of how not to try a case." I'm sure some lawyers do it brilliantly, but that's just been my experience. Whether it is an assistant whose job it is to sort papers and run the powerpoint, or whether it is an actual second chair attorney, my experience suggests that making use of an assistant is the norm rather than the exception. I'm guessing this is because the amount of materials involved in a trial is generally a bit more than one person can comfortably manage. And, Shannon makes an excellent point about voir dire. While I generally think blind people pick up on non-verbal cues just fine, for the sake of the client, a belt and suspenders approach is probably the best idea. And of course, trial advocacy is, first and foremost, and exercise aimed at getting a result for another person. Also, I highly recommend McElhaney's Trial Notebook. It has wonderful examples and strategies for all phases of trial. The judge I'm clerking for recommended it to me. And, best of all, the most recent edition is on Bookshare. Best, Chris From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jan 23 16:24:51 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:24:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: ACLU of WA is hiring - Police Practices and Immigrant Rights Counsel In-Reply-To: <2f8da080b16c46b7871601c60ced3fad@exchange.hq.aclu-wa.org> References: <2f8da080b16c46b7871601c60ced3fad@exchange.hq.aclu-wa.org> Message-ID: From: Lindsay Andersen [mailto:landersen at aclu-wa.org] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 5:51 PM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: ACLU of WA is hiring - Police Practices and Immigrant Rights Counsel Hello Noel, I hope you are doing well! We are hiring for a Police Practices and Immigrant Rights Counsel. Would you please share the job listing with the WADA membership? I've attached pdf, and the link is here: https://aclu-wa.org/pages/police-practices-and-immigrant-rights-counsel-full-time Thank you for your help. Bests, Lindsay Lindsay Andersen Special Assistant to the Executive Director She/her pronouns ACLU of Washington 901 Fifth Avenue, Suite 630 Seattle, WA 98164 206.624.2184 www.aclu-wa.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PAG - Police & Immigrant Rights Jan 2017.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 227312 bytes Desc: PAG - Police & Immigrant Rights Jan 2017.pdf URL: From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 18:54:20 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:54:20 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> Thanks Denise. I was able to get the 9th edition on kindle and read it on the app. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise avant via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:45 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: denise avant Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Deepa, You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. Denise R. Avant, President National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial practice clinic in law school. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? All I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After all, I'm here to learn! Thanks Ger On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos > and documents. > > > > Joshua Loevy > Associate > Lathrop & Gage LLP > Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO > 63105 > P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM > www.lathropgage.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) > is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and > (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work > product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or > distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. > Labarre via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Scott C. Labarre > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to discuss. > I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can > all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many > things in life, there is no single approach that is the most > eeffective for all individuals. > > Cheers, > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Dear all, > > I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy > do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to > discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? > > Thanks > > Ger > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M > ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz > fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots > _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= > . > com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO > 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol > d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff > bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for > BlindLaw: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman > _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z > q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj > krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU > 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa > .org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 22:53:04 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:53:04 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Daniel, all I'm not really in a position to telephone (I'm based outside the US many time zones away) and I'd be interested in your responses to Jay's questions and indeed your responses in general ... any chance of an email on this? Many thanks. Ger On 1/23/17, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > Thanks Denise. I was able to get the 9th edition on kindle and read it on > the app. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of denise > avant via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:45 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: denise avant > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, and/or a > good trial practice training session I can attend. I never took a trial > practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone > is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to that. After > all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If >> you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately >> and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives >> or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos >> and documents. >> >> >> >> Joshua Loevy >> Associate >> Lathrop & Gage LLP >> Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, MO >> 63105 >> P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM >> www.lathropgage.com >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) >> is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and >> (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work >> product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or >> distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact > the sender and delete all copies. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. >> Labarre via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Scott C. Labarre >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to > discuss. >> I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can >> all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. Happy to >> discuss off list, if anyone would prefer that? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ger >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO >> 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol >> d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff >> bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your >> account info for >> BlindLaw: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_slabarre-2540labarrelaw&d=DQICAg&c=zq7M >> ynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrz >> fDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=sTPots >> _MgXF8Gxc3GLYy5kmqhj4VtqelO17DEXCMw6M&e= >> . >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DQICAg&c=zq7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO >> 25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJjkrzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSol >> d7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=dQ4Fp2fh8Qu0fjO3qaXUvgblD3Bff >> bLyri3A0qHAfAs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your >> account info for >> BlindLaw: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman >> _options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_jloevy-2540lathropgage.com&d=DQICAg&c=z >> q7Mynb997iZeC8XoLQcB11VjdO25CZYDUZ0f4PEEy0&r=p9cYR0ZTBfQo0Swz42TqgfoJj >> krzfDIGBdNtLahdAqM&m=KlSold7-5oNueYqaXkmlRAUvF-Cwnw5AnU6SRhI4-gk&s=8RU >> 6YIa9x7l_PnpY-rJpSWC5b2u7mOy52mjxEmpKdVc&e= >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa >> .org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 24 00:31:20 2017 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:31:20 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019b01d275d9$303972b0$90ac5810$@sbcglobal.net> Ger: I am willing to post my views, however, I am currently preparing for a jury trial Friday morning and might not get around to it until next week. Also, you would need to repost J's inquiry as I no longer have it. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:53 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? Daniel, all I'm not really in a position to telephone (I'm based outside the US many time zones away) and I'd be interested in your responses to Jay's questions and indeed your responses in general ... any chance of an email on this? Many thanks. Ger On 1/23/17, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > Thanks Denise. I was able to get the 9th edition on kindle and read it > on the app. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > denise avant via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:45 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: denise avant > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Deepa, > You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa > Goraya via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, > and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never > took a trial practice clinic in law school. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > All > > I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if > anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to > that. After all, I'm here to learn! > > Thanks > > Ger > > On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged >> attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by >> anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not >> a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the >> e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or >> attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the >> sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all >> copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 2:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Loevy, Joshua L. (LG) >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I would be curious to hear how people deal with exhibits, both photos >> and documents. >> >> >> >> Joshua Loevy >> Associate >> Lathrop & Gage LLP >> Pierre Laclede Center, 7701 Forsyth Boulevard, Suite 500 | Clayton, >> MO >> 63105 >> P: 314.613.2518 | F: 314.613.2801 | JLoevy at LATHROPGAGE.COM >> www.lathropgage.com >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain material that (1) >> is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient, and >> (2) may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, attorney work >> product doctrine or other legal rules. Any review, reliance or >> distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact > the sender and delete all copies. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott C. >> Labarre via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:34 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Scott C. Labarre >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Ger, are there any particular areas or issues you are most keen to > discuss. >> I also think we should keep this conversation on list so that we can >> all benefit from each others' knowledge and experience. Like many >> things in life, there is no single approach that is the most >> eeffective for all individuals. >> >> Cheers, >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:22 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'd be really grateful for any tips any of you who do trial advocacy >> do on how to do this most effectively as a blind lawyer. 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In-Reply-To: <019b01d275d9$303972b0$90ac5810$@sbcglobal.net> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> <019b01d275d9$303972b0$90ac5810$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Daniel, all Thank you very much. >From memory (open to correction) Jay's query was about why sighted assistance is considered so important. My queries would be more geared toward how to gain experience as a trial lawyer. I haven't done a trial, I'm a solicitor and in this jurisdiction solicitors don't generally (at least in the higher courts). I wouldn't and couldn't expect anyone to entrust an important trial to me as matters stand. So what should I be doing to get experience and baring in mind that there are no blind trial lawyers here, what practices ought I adopt to learn the ropes. (I'm sure these are challenges others have faced?) Thanks Ger On 1/24/17, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw wrote: > Ger: > > I am willing to post my views, however, I am currently preparing for a jury > trial Friday morning and might not get around to it until next week. Also, > you would need to repost J's inquiry as I no longer have it. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard > Sadlier via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:53 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Gerard Sadlier > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? > > Daniel, all > > I'm not really in a position to telephone (I'm based outside the US many > time zones away) and I'd be interested in your responses to Jay's questions > and indeed your responses in general ... any chance of an email on this? > > Many thanks. > > Ger > > On 1/23/17, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: >> Thanks Denise. I was able to get the 9th edition on kindle and read it >> on the app. >> >> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> denise avant via BlindLaw >> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:45 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: denise avant >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> Deepa, >> You may wish to read the trial advocacy books by Thomas Mauett. >> >> Denise R. Avant, President >> National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you want. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deepa >> Goraya via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:41 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Deepa Goraya >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> I'd also like to know a good trial procedure treatis I ccan read, >> and/or a good trial practice training session I can attend. I never >> took a trial practice clinic in law school. >> >> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Gerard Sadlier >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? >> >> All >> >> I wasn't proposing that this be taken off list, simply saying that if >> anyone is more comfortable doing so for whatever reason I am open to >> that. After all, I'm here to learn! >> >> Thanks >> >> Ger >> >> On 1/20/17, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> I am also curious to learn tips on managing exhibits. >>> >>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> www.driowa.org >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >>> Iowans with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >>> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >>> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged >>> attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by >>> anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. 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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:19:21 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> <019b01d275d9$303972b0$90ac5810$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <068901d275e8$469f6780$d3de3680$@com> Ger, there are quite a few differences between your jurisdiction and what obtains in the United States! One striking difference: In the United States, you can be both a solicitor and a barrister. U.S. lawyers are addressed as attorneys; there isn't a ONE LICENSE fits all. Each state has its own licensing process and procedure in place. For instance, in my state, a practicing attorney from another country shall have done so for at least seven years prior to coming to the United States. Attestation/certification of some kind must be obtainable from the Supreme Court in the attorney's country of origin. If all of this is in place, such an attorney will be exempted from taking a bar exam. Of course, college transcripts and all that need to be certified as being authentic by a certifying agency approved by the state bar. So, here's a question for you: Under your system, can one change from being a solicitor to a barrister? How easy is it to make such a change? Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 02:52:05 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 02:52:05 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Trial Advocacy, how to? In-Reply-To: <068901d275e8$469f6780$d3de3680$@com> References: <01a901d27321$ebd27900$c3776b00$@labarrelaw.com> <007901d273a0$96195590$c24c00b0$@gmail.com> <0a4401d274b5$cba3add0$62eb0970$@gmail.com> <005101d275aa$1bda57f0$538f07d0$@gmail.com> <019b01d275d9$303972b0$90ac5810$@sbcglobal.net> <068901d275e8$469f6780$d3de3680$@com> Message-ID: Hi Olusegun, I'm aware of the differences you mention. Historically, attorneys practiced in common law Courts and solicitors in Chancery. When those Courts were merged (about a century and a half ago) the description attorney was dropped. It is very easy to transfer from being a solicitor to a barrister here and vice versa. Ger On 1/24/17, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw wrote: > Ger, there are quite a few differences between your jurisdiction and what > obtains in the United States! One striking difference: In the United > States, you can be both a solicitor and a barrister. U.S. lawyers are > addressed as attorneys; there isn't a ONE LICENSE fits all. Each state has > its own licensing process and procedure in place. > > For instance, in my state, a practicing attorney from another country shall > have done so for at least seven years prior to coming to the United States. > Attestation/certification of some kind must be obtainable from the Supreme > Court in the attorney's country of origin. If all of this is in place, > such > an attorney will be exempted from taking a bar exam. Of course, college > transcripts and all that need to be certified as being authentic by a > certifying agency approved by the state bar. > > So, here's a question for you: Under your system, can one change from > being > a solicitor to a barrister? How easy is it to make such a change? > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From amatney at hf-law.com Tue Jan 24 15:18:43 2017 From: amatney at hf-law.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:18:43 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] BlackBerry Work Message-ID: <20AA0861082775448814F89F818F647289B14CD8@Exch-DB.hirschlerfleischer.com> Hello. My firm uses an app called BlackBerry Work for mobile access to email, calendar, and contacts. Despite the name, this app works across multiple operating systems, including iOS. Until recently, it was known as Good Work. We recently migrated to this app from another offering from the same developer. I have found that in BlackBerry Work, braille screen input does not work when I am editing the body of a message on my iPhone 7 Plus. I use BSI for the vast majority of my typing in iOS, and its unavailability is more than a little inconvenient. BSI worked fine in the previous app we were using, Good for Enterprise. We have a support request in with the developer, but I thought I would see if anyone else has had similar experiences. I can explain the importance of accessibility, but additional concrete examples might encourage the developer to act more quickly to resolve the issue. Of course, if you use BlackBerry Work and are able to use BSI successfully in the body of email messages, I'd love to hear about that too. I don't think this problem is related to any setting on my end, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Angie Angela R. Matney, CIPP/US Hirschler Fleischer 725 Jackson Street, Suite 200 | Fredericksburg, VA 22401-5720 p: 540.604.2117 | f: 540.604.2101 amatney at hf-law.com | www.hf-law.com Hirschler Fleischer, A Professional Corporation Confidentiality Note: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From aloshamoorenfb at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 20:28:07 2017 From: aloshamoorenfb at gmail.com (Alosha Moore) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:28:07 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted by Barbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> Good afternoon Chris: I have responded to the same email to Deepa Goria, and apart from an automatic reply, I have not heard back from her. Are you guys still looking for BARBRI users? Please let me know if I can still assist and who to contact. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Alosha. J.D. Candidate Class of 2017 > Washburn School of Law > daniel.moore at washburn.edu (316)312-3454 > Pro Bono Association President > International Law Society Vice President > Intellectual Property Law Society Secretary > Business Law Society Treasurer > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is privileged, > attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please > immediately notify the sender by return e-mail or by calling 316-312-3454, and delete this message from your computer. Thank you. > On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi All, > > I wanted to take a moment to echo the eloquent comments of my friend > and co-plaintiff Derek. For those of you in law school, bar review is > essentially the equivalent of studying for all of your 1L and many of > your 2L and 3L finals at the same time, except in at least one or two > cases, you won't have taken the class, and your intensity of study is > expected to hold constant for the better part of two months. > > I watched as sighted friends around me had panic attacks, as > relationships broke up, and as everyone lost sleep. But even those > friends on the edge of breakdowns often came back down to earth when > they heard about my accessibility issues. Imagine waking up with an > eight-hour study plan outlined in front of you, but with none of the > materials for that day. What does that mean? It means there is very > likely an even longer day somewhere in your near future. > > This law suit means all the more to me because, when I finish my > clerkship, I am moving either to New York or Washington DC. Neither > Virginia nor New York accepts a non-concurrent MBE transfer, so I'll > be going through this whole process again. So I encourage any of you > planning to use Barbri or who have at some point been discouraged from > using Barbri to get in touch with Deepa. Her email again is > deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. > > Best, > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aloshamoorenfb%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Tue Jan 24 22:49:32 2017 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (mnowicki4 at icloud.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:49:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted byBarbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> References: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0OKB00D3X3FEC010@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Same here. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alosha Moore via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:29 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Alosha Moore Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted byBarbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility Good afternoon Chris: I have responded to the same email to Deepa Goria, and apart from an automatic reply, I have not heard back from her. Are you guys still looking for BARBRI users? Please let me know if I can still assist and who to contact. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Alosha. J.D. Candidate Class of 2017 > Washburn School of Law > daniel.moore at washburn.edu (316)312-3454 > Pro Bono Association President > International Law Society Vice President > Intellectual Property Law Society Secretary > Business Law Society Treasurer > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is privileged, > attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please > immediately notify the sender by return e-mail or by calling 316-312-3454, and delete this message from your computer. Thank you. > On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi All, > > I wanted to take a moment to echo the eloquent comments of my friend > and co-plaintiff Derek. For those of you in law school, bar review is > essentially the equivalent of studying for all of your 1L and many of > your 2L and 3L finals at the same time, except in at least one or two > cases, you won't have taken the class, and your intensity of study is > expected to hold constant for the better part of two months. > > I watched as sighted friends around me had panic attacks, as > relationships broke up, and as everyone lost sleep. But even those > friends on the edge of breakdowns often came back down to earth when > they heard about my accessibility issues. Imagine waking up with an > eight-hour study plan outlined in front of you, but with none of the > materials for that day. What does that mean? It means there is very > likely an even longer day somewhere in your near future. > > This law suit means all the more to me because, when I finish my > clerkship, I am moving either to New York or Washington DC. Neither > Virginia nor New York accepts a non-concurrent MBE transfer, so I'll > be going through this whole process again. So I encourage any of you > planning to use Barbri or who have at some point been discouraged from > using Barbri to get in touch with Deepa. Her email again is > deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. > > Best, > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aloshamoorenfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jan 24 22:50:09 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:50:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: NWIRP is hiring - Seattle attorney position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: fangseattle at googlegroups.com [mailto:fangseattle at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daquiz, Abigail - SOL Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 1:58 PM To: fangseattle at googlegroups.com Subject: [fangs] NWIRP is hiring - Seattle attorney position NWIRP has an opening for a bilingual attorney position in our Seattle office. The job posting is linked below. https://www.nwirp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/NWIRPCityProjectStaffAttorneySeattleJan2017.pdf Jorge L. Barón | Executive Director | Northwest Immigrant Rights Project 615 Second Ave., Suite 400, Seattle, WA 98104 | email: jorge at nwirp.org Direct: (206) 957-8609 | Fax: (206) 587-4025 | www.nwirp.org --- You are currently subscribed to atj-community as: daquiz.abigail at dol.gov. To access web features of this list, visit list.wsba.org/read/ Please send an email to the list administrator to update the list administrator with changes to your email address. -- -- You received this message because you are a federal agency attorney and subscribed to the FANGS group. To SEND A MESSAGE to this group, email to fangseattle at googlegroups.com. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, email fangseattle+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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From tim at timeldermusic.com Wed Jan 25 01:12:16 2017 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (Tim Elder) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:12:16 -0800 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Blind Lawyers Networking Dinner Message-ID: <017501d276a8$11b91050$352b30f0$@timeldermusic.com> _____________________________________________ From: Timothy Elder Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:08 PM To: Timothy Elder Cc: Lisa Bonderson (lkb at labarrelaw.com) Subject: Blind Lawyers Networking Dinner Hello fellow blind attorneys and law students, Over the last few years, many of us have gathered for a networking lunch in Washington D.C at the end of January. A group of us would like to repeat the networking event. We plan to informally get together for a dinner on Tuesday evening, January 31st, 2017, at the Tortilla Coast Capitol Hill, 400 First Street SE. We have a group reservation at 7:00 PM under my name. R.S.V.P. via email to lkb at labarrelaw.com if you would like to attend. Please also provide your most permanent email address if you would like to receive notifications in upcoming years. I notice that some have changed employers since we last sent out invitations. We have limited space given the informal gathering, but will do our best to include all who respond. some may arrive late given work commutes. You will be able to order directly from the restaurant menu. All blind attorneys and law students are welcome. Please share this invitation with your fellow legal professionals who will be in the Washington D.C. area. I don't have contact for everyone so please forward this to any blind lawyers or law students who you think ought to attend. I look forward to seeing you in Washington, Regards, Timothy Elder Attorney TRE Legal Practice 4226 Castanos Street Fremont, CA 94536 Phone: (410) 415-3493 Fax: (888) 718-0617 E-mail: telder at trelegal.com www.trelegal.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Jan 25 19:18:59 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:18:59 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Job Opportunity: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON INITIATIVE FOR DIVERSITY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: WSBA Diversity [mailto:diversity at wsba.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: Diversity Stakeholders Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] Job Opportunity: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON INITIATIVE FOR DIVERSITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON INITIATIVE FOR DIVERSITY The Washington Initiative for Diversity is looking to hire an Executive Director to be responsible for the strategic, marketing, programmatic and financial management of the Washington Initiative for Diversity. Requirements: Minimum of 5 years of experience in senior-level legal, government or non-profit management; experience working on diversity programming and driving diversity goals and objectives; thorough knowledge and understanding of diversity and inclusion issues in the legal environment; and experience in performance assessments and related tools to collect, measure and evaluate performance. Salary Range: $55,000 - $75,000/year, depending on qualifications. This is a part-time position - duties will require, on average, 24 to 30 hours per week as required by the workload. Application Process: This position is open until filled. However, for earliest consideration application materials should be received by February 15, 2017. Submit resume, cover letter, references and salary requirements to: Administrative Office of the Courts, Attention Human Resources - P.O. 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Avant President National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Live the life you want Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Stratton, Michael" > Date: January 25, 2017 at 12:38:54 PM CST > To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG > Subject: Re: 2017 ABA-Prudential 1L Summer Internship Program for Law Students with Disabilities is Now Accepting Applications! > Reply-To: "The Disability Discussion Docket (3D)" <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG>, "Stratton, Michael" > > > 2017 1L Summer Internship Program > > Prudential Financial, Inc. > > > > The American Bar Association's (ABA) Commission on Disability Rights is pleased to partner with Prudential Financial, Inc. (Prudential) to provide a meaningful summer internship opportunity for a highly motivated, first-year law student with a disability. The Commission will select a law student with a disability to join the 2017 summer law intern class at Prudential's New Jersey offices. The 1L summer internship will run 10 weeks–from May 22 to July 28, 2017. Interns will be paid a stipend of approximately $10,000, which shall accrue and be paid on a weekly basis. > > Internship Description > The summer internship program will provide interns the opportunity to work with attorneys who support the broad reach of Prudential's businesses. Other features of the program include: > > Paid attendance at the 1L LCLD Scholars Summit in Philadelphia, PA on May 23-25 > Participation in training programs presented by Prudential attorneys highlighting different areas of the business and the legal department > Pairing with an attorney who will serve as a manager during the program and provide guidance on projects and other substantive work > Pairing with a mentor who will serve as an additional advisor on resume review > Interviewing skill development and mock interview practice > Networking within Prudential and externally with law firms and regulatory groups > Presentation development and delivery > Opportunity to shadow attorneys on various projects > Opportunities to interview with selected local firms for potential 2L internships > > Applicant Requirements > Applicants must: > > Be (or become) a member of the American Bar Association > Be a law student with a disability > Be enrolled at an ABA-accredited law school and have successfully completed the first year with a minimum 3.0 GPA on a 4.0 scale (or equivalent) > Be scheduled for graduation in spring 2019 (full-time students) or spring 2020 (part-time students) > The ideal applicant will have financial or business-related experience or interest. 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Update your profile | Manage your email preferences | Unsubscribe | Privacy Policy | Contact Us American Bar Association | 321 N Clark, Chicago, IL 60654-7598 | 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 13:54:05 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:54:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted by Barbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> References: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2745BE6E-6444-4228-8781-57DA5931FC20@gmail.com> Hi, I am in trial right now, which is why you received an auto response. I or my coleague will be contacting you this week or next. Yes, we are still looking for anyone who has been impacted by Barbri. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Alosha Moore via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good afternoon Chris: > I have responded to the same email to Deepa Goria, and apart from an automatic reply, I have not heard back from her. Are you guys still looking for BARBRI users? Please let me know if I can still assist and who to contact. Thank you for your consideration. > Best, Alosha. > > J.D. Candidate Class of 2017 >> Washburn School of Law >> daniel.moore at washburn.edu (316)312-3454 >> Pro Bono Association President >> International Law Society Vice President >> Intellectual Property Law Society Secretary >> Business Law Society Treasurer >> This e-mail message, including any attachments, is confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is privileged, >> attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please >> immediately notify the sender by return e-mail or by calling 316-312-3454, and delete this message from your computer. Thank you. > > >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I wanted to take a moment to echo the eloquent comments of my friend >> and co-plaintiff Derek. For those of you in law school, bar review is >> essentially the equivalent of studying for all of your 1L and many of >> your 2L and 3L finals at the same time, except in at least one or two >> cases, you won't have taken the class, and your intensity of study is >> expected to hold constant for the better part of two months. >> >> I watched as sighted friends around me had panic attacks, as >> relationships broke up, and as everyone lost sleep. But even those >> friends on the edge of breakdowns often came back down to earth when >> they heard about my accessibility issues. Imagine waking up with an >> eight-hour study plan outlined in front of you, but with none of the >> materials for that day. What does that mean? It means there is very >> likely an even longer day somewhere in your near future. >> >> This law suit means all the more to me because, when I finish my >> clerkship, I am moving either to New York or Washington DC. Neither >> Virginia nor New York accepts a non-concurrent MBE transfer, so I'll >> be going through this whole process again. So I encourage any of you >> planning to use Barbri or who have at some point been discouraged from >> using Barbri to get in touch with Deepa. Her email again is >> deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >> >> Best, >> Chris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aloshamoorenfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 13:56:23 2017 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:56:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted byBarbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility In-Reply-To: <0OKB00D3X3FEC010@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> References: <1FC94AD0-63EC-4DD0-9568-EA124B755AA3@gmail.com> <0OKB00D3X3FEC010@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: If you did not send me your phone number, please email me again with that information so that we can call you. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Same here. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Alosha Moore via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:29 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Alosha Moore > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] 3. Re: looking for anyone who has been impacted byBarbri Bar Review's Inaccessibility > > Good afternoon Chris: > I have responded to the same email to Deepa Goria, and apart from an automatic reply, I have not heard back from her. Are you guys still looking for BARBRI users? Please let me know if I can still assist and who to contact. Thank you for your consideration. > Best, Alosha. > > J.D. Candidate Class of 2017 >> Washburn School of Law >> daniel.moore at washburn.edu (316)312-3454 >> Pro Bono Association President >> International Law Society Vice President >> Intellectual Property Law Society Secretary >> Business Law Society Treasurer >> This e-mail message, including any attachments, is confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is privileged, >> attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please >> immediately notify the sender by return e-mail or by calling 316-312-3454, and delete this message from your computer. Thank you. > > >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I wanted to take a moment to echo the eloquent comments of my friend >> and co-plaintiff Derek. For those of you in law school, bar review is >> essentially the equivalent of studying for all of your 1L and many of >> your 2L and 3L finals at the same time, except in at least one or two >> cases, you won't have taken the class, and your intensity of study is >> expected to hold constant for the better part of two months. >> >> I watched as sighted friends around me had panic attacks, as >> relationships broke up, and as everyone lost sleep. But even those >> friends on the edge of breakdowns often came back down to earth when >> they heard about my accessibility issues. Imagine waking up with an >> eight-hour study plan outlined in front of you, but with none of the >> materials for that day. What does that mean? It means there is very >> likely an even longer day somewhere in your near future. >> >> This law suit means all the more to me because, when I finish my >> clerkship, I am moving either to New York or Washington DC. Neither >> Virginia nor New York accepts a non-concurrent MBE transfer, so I'll >> be going through this whole process again. So I encourage any of you >> planning to use Barbri or who have at some point been discouraged from >> using Barbri to get in touch with Deepa. Her email again is >> deepa_goraya at washlaw.org. >> >> Best, >> Chris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aloshamoorenfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Jan 26 16:16:53 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:16:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Government Relations Officer In-Reply-To: <00de01d27788$85faf600$91f0e200$@comcast.net> References: <16819826.330@subscriptions.kingcounty.gov> <00de01d27788$85faf600$91f0e200$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thought this position might be of interest to some on this list. From: King County, WA [mailto:KingCounty at subscriptions.kingcounty.gov] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 8:47 AM Subject: Government Relations Officer Government Relations Officer 01/25/2017 08:41 AM PST The Government Relations Officer position oversees county legislative work for the Department of Natural Resources and Parks (DNRP) on a variety of high-profile and complex projects and environmental initiatives. This entails advocating for DNRP interests in these projects and initiatives by developing and implementing our legislative agenda with the King County Council, including strategy development and extensive intergovernmental relations. The position will provide strategic policy and legislative support for DNRP's interests related to natural resources, climate change, energy conservation, sustainability, wastewater, solid waste, storm water, and Parks related initiatives and projects within King County. King County and The Department of Natural Resources and parks (DNRP) values diverse perspectives and life experiences and encourage people of all backgrounds to apply, including people of color, immigrants, refugees, women, LGBTQ, people with disabilities, and veterans. Examples of job duties: * Lead DNRP policy and legislative support with the King County Council and Council staff. Serve as central point of contact for Council communications. Oversee the development of legislative materials related to DNRP issues including reports, motions, ordinances and other Council requests. * Develop and advocate for the DNRP legislative agenda, policies and positions for the DNRP, in coordination with the King County Executive's office. * Assist with the development and review of DNRP legislation to advance DNRP's mission. * Ensure clear, consistent communications with the Council on DNRP issues. * Advocate the Executive's position on legislation with Council members and Council staff. * Negotiate amendments to legislation to achieve outcomes consistent with DNRP's mission * Provide briefings and presentations to Council members and Council staff. * Coordinate with Executive's Council Relations Director and Division Council relations staff. * Attend Council and Committee meetings, as appropriate. * Represent King County's DNRP legislative strategy to elected officials and staff from cities and other counties to ensure King County interests are represented in legislative actions. * Directly advocate for King County positions with other local elected officials, staff and stakeholders concerning the county's legislative priorities. Required knowledge, skills and experience: A Bachelor's Degree in Public Administration or a related field or equivalent combination of experience and education and a minimum of four years' experience performing senior-level policy analysis, political strategy development and intergovernmental relations for the public sector are required. Additional required qualifications include: * Demonstrated experience with and knowledge of state, federal and local legislative process, committees, and oversight of legislation management * Extensive demonstrated experience consulting on, developing and implementing political strategies * Extensive demonstrated experience developing and analyzing public policy for a governmental agency * Demonstrated success working with all levels of government, community organizations and private sector businesses to develop and implement projects and strategies * Extensive direct experience with government-sponsored committees and task forces developing political strategies and projects * Extensive demonstrated experience acting as liaison for elected officials * Excellent oral and written communications skills; public speaking skills; demonstrated experience communicating complex issues in the public arena * Creative problem solving skills * Strategic focus and excellent analytical skills * Financial analysis skills * Negotiation and conflict resolution skills * Excellent interpersonal skills * Ability to make quality decisions using sound judgement * Political sensitivity * Media relations skills * Skill in making independent decisions * Skill in in handling numerous projects and tasks simultaneously Preferred qualifications: * An advanced degree in Public Administration or a related field is highly desirable. * Experience as a liaison and policy advisor for elected officials * Sound working relationships with elected officials and community leaders throughout Seattle and King County Contact Information: For questions regarding this announcement, please contact Prakash Meloot at prakash.meloot at kingcounty.gov or 206-477-5262. 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Labarre) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:55:34 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [DRBA] Georgia Advocacy Office (the Georgia P&A) is seeking a Litigation Director In-Reply-To: <2acae3900edf465a9aaafe284575f2dc@ndrn.org> References: <2acae3900edf465a9aaafe284575f2dc@ndrn.org> Message-ID: <008801d278df$b4afdcb0$1e0f9610$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: Disability Rights Bar Association [mailto:DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Kenneth Shiotani Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:34 PM To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [DRBA] Georgia Advocacy Office (the Georgia P&A) is seeking a Litigation Director FYI The Georgia Advocacy Office (GAO) are seeking a Litigation Director. Attached is the job posting (there’s also a link to the posting at Work for Good: https://www.workforgood.org/job/561371/litigation-director/) Thank you! Julie Julie C. Kegley Staff Attorney/Program Director Georgia Advocacy Office One West Court Square, Suite 625 Decatur, GA 30030 (404) 885-1234 (telephone) (800) 537-2329 (toll-free in Georgia only) (404) 378-0031 (facsimile) jkegley at thegao.org (direct email) www.thegao.org The Georgia Advocacy Office is participating in Georgia Gives. For more information go to https://www.gagivesday.org/c/GGD/Search?p=1&keyword=GAO . Please consider a donation to support our work. Thank you. Kenneth Shiotani National Disability Rights Network 820 First Street NE, Suite 740 Washington, DC 20002 (202) 408-9514 x 126 voice (202) 567-3526 (Direct) Kenneth.Shiotani at ndrn.org REMINDER: The DRBA listserv is intended to facilitate open discussion and sharing of ideas. Members need to feel confident that their discussions will not be distributed beyond the group unnecessarily. PLEASE CONSULT WITH THE SENDER(S) BEFORE FORWARDING ANY LISTSERV DISCUSSIONS BEYOND THE DRBA GROUP. 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Whether you are a student, a young professional, or well along in your career, you will benefit immensely from these two workshops." Rules of Engagement - If you have ever been stymied by the prospect of attending a networking event or a reception, you're not alone. Walking into a room filled with dozens of people who you have never before met can be overwhelming for new entrants to the workforce and established professionals alike. This program will give you ten "rules" that will help you make the most of any Washington D.C. business-social event, including how to prepare for and navigate the events, and most importantly, how to follow up and build relationships with your new important contacts. Communicating with Style - Some studies suggest that fully 85% of your success is directly linked to your ability to effectively communicate. Yet, few professionals receive any formal training in basic communication skills. This highly interactive 90-minute program is an introduction to communication styles. Because your communication style is based, in part, on your behavioral style preference, we'll use the DISC assessment tool to help you identify your individual behavioral style preference. Then, we'll turn our attention to the people with whom you work and give you some clues to help you identify their behavioral style preferences, too. Highlighting points of commonality and potential conflict, we'll focus on adjustments that you can make to enhance your communications with others. Mary R. Crane. Esq. A graduate of George Washington University's National Law Center, Mary Crane practiced law and lobbied in Washington D.C. for nearly ten years. Working first for the American Petroleum Institute and then with the American Heart Association, Crane specialized in non-profit tax issues. In the early 1990s she decided to pursue her life-long fascinations in food and wine. With these interests in mind, she spent two years exploring the world of gastronomy at the prestigious Culinary Institute of America, from which she graduated with honors. Crane further gained certification as a sommelier from the Court of Master Sommeliers London, England. Immediately thereafter, she began work as an assistant chef at the White House. Crane left the professional kitchen and approached law firms with her innovative program, "The Rules of Engagement." That seminar provided participants with the rules they needed to successfully work receptions and navigate the more formal dining setting. Since then, Crane has expanded the training programs she offers to include many of the other practical business skills all professionals need to succeed. Her programs cover a broad range of skill sets including: getting the most out of networking events and receptions, managing business lunches and dinners, communicating effectively via paper or e-mail, interacting effectively with other behavioral styles at work, bridging the generation and gender gaps, and working ethically. Crane's clients include many Fortune 500 companies and more than 50% of the AmLaw100. She is a frequent speaker at national conferences, and has appeared on 60 Minutes, Fox Business News, and ABC Radio. She makes monthly guest appearances on Let's Talk Live, a Washington, D.C. televised ABC-affiliate program. Crane has also been quoted extensively in a variety of print and electronic media, including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes.com, Fortune.com, and CNN.com This highly-anticipated seminar will take place on Sunday, January 29, 2017 at the Holiday Inn Capitol located on 550 C Street SW Washington DC in the House Room to be held at 3:00 to 6:15pm. Please join us with this world renown speaker who will be offering her expertise at a nominal fee of $15 for each 90-minute session or $20 for both. Sponsored by the Potomac Chapter/National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Facilitated by Mary Crane, Esq.,?creator of the 100 Things You Need To Know book series, which provides people entering the workforce with crucial information in easy-to-absorb, almost tweetable chunks. The series currently includes Starting Work and Networking. mary at marycrane.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-crane-2003939 Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 20:37:28 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:37:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS Message-ID: All, Another tax question. I'm doing the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance through my school's clinic, and we have several publications that we use in the course of work. While the IRS has a lot of its forms and publications accessible, I can't find any of these: P 4012, 4491, 4491-W, or 6744. Mostly the problems are the inaccessibility of the decision trees in the PDFs and the fact that sample forms (such as intake sheets) appear to be embedded in the PDF as images, making it impossible to read. Does anyone know if there are accessible versions of these anywhere? From emilypennington at fuse.net Sat Jan 28 23:16:34 2017 From: emilypennington at fuse.net (Emily Pennington) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:16:34 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005e01d279bc$91b5a9a0$b520fce0$@fuse.net> Dear Kelby, I did VITA two years ago, and I have a couple of those publications in Word -- namely 4491 and at least part of 4012. However, they are from two years ago, so perhaps they are not relevant anymore. In any event, my dad had to put in a painstaking amount of labor to get them into a readable form. Let me know if you think what I have would be relevant despite the two-year difference, and I would be happy to send them to you off-list. From my experience, I did not wind up needing most of the more graphic stuff in the publications thanks to the site walking me through the preparation process and the easier-to-read textual components of the publications. Sincerely, Emily -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:37 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: kelby carlson Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS All, Another tax question. I'm doing the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance through my school's clinic, and we have several publications that we use in the course of work. While the IRS has a lot of its forms and publications accessible, I can't find any of these: P 4012, 4491, 4491-W, or 6744. Mostly the problems are the inaccessibility of the decision trees in the PDFs and the fact that sample forms (such as intake sheets) appear to be embedded in the PDF as images, making it impossible to read. Does anyone know if there are accessible versions of these anywhere? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington%40fuse .net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13854 - Release Date: 01/28/17 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13848 - Release Date: 01/27/17 From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 02:56:35 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 21:56:35 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS In-Reply-To: <005e01d279bc$91b5a9a0$b520fce0$@fuse.net> References: <005e01d279bc$91b5a9a0$b520fce0$@fuse.net> Message-ID: Emily, At the moment my issue is with the certification test, since I'm not sure I'll be able to read the problems. I'm not worried about the actual preparation since I'll have a reader. Do you recall how you took the test? On 1/28/17, Emily Pennington via BlindLaw wrote: > Dear Kelby, > I did VITA two years ago, and I have a couple of those publications in Word > -- namely 4491 and at least part of 4012. > However, they are from two years ago, so perhaps they are not relevant > anymore. In any event, my dad had to put in a painstaking amount of labor > to > get them into a readable form. Let me know if you think what I have would > be > relevant despite the two-year difference, and I would be happy to send them > to you off-list. From my experience, I did not wind up needing most of the > more graphic stuff in the publications thanks to the site walking me > through > the preparation process and the easier-to-read textual components of the > publications. > > Sincerely, > Emily > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby > carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:37 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS > > All, > > Another tax question. I'm doing the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance through > my school's clinic, and we have several publications that we use in the > course of work. While the IRS has a lot of its forms and publications > accessible, I can't find any of these: P 4012, 4491, 4491-W, or 6744. > Mostly > the problems are the inaccessibility of the decision trees in the PDFs and > the fact that sample forms (such as intake sheets) appear to be embedded in > the PDF as images, making it impossible to read. Does anyone know if there > are accessible versions of these anywhere? > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington%40fuse > .net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13854 - Release Date: 01/28/17 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13848 - Release Date: 01/27/17 > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From emilypennington at fuse.net Sun Jan 29 14:06:45 2017 From: emilypennington at fuse.net (Emily Pennington) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 09:06:45 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS In-Reply-To: References: <005e01d279bc$91b5a9a0$b520fce0$@fuse.net> Message-ID: <000901d27a38$ecf397b0$c6dac710$@fuse.net> Hi, Kelby. My memory on those tests is growing a bit fuzzy now, but I recall them being a bit challenging. Many of the questions were multiple choice, true/false, or presented a short textual scenario with choices. However, I recall some questions having links to accompanying documents (i.e. someone's tax return) for interpretation. Most of it was readable with a screenreader, but I remember it being challenging and taking a while on some of the problems. I feel like Firefox was the best browser for me. Sincerely, Emily -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:57 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: kelby carlson Subject: Re: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS Emily, At the moment my issue is with the certification test, since I'm not sure I'll be able to read the problems. I'm not worried about the actual preparation since I'll have a reader. Do you recall how you took the test? On 1/28/17, Emily Pennington via BlindLaw wrote: > Dear Kelby, > I did VITA two years ago, and I have a couple of those publications in > Word > -- namely 4491 and at least part of 4012. > However, they are from two years ago, so perhaps they are not > relevant anymore. In any event, my dad had to put in a painstaking > amount of labor to get them into a readable form. Let me know if you > think what I have would be relevant despite the two-year difference, > and I would be happy to send them to you off-list. From my experience, > I did not wind up needing most of the more graphic stuff in the > publications thanks to the site walking me through the preparation > process and the easier-to-read textual components of the publications. > > Sincerely, > Emily > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby > carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:37 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS > > All, > > Another tax question. I'm doing the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance > through my school's clinic, and we have several publications that we > use in the course of work. While the IRS has a lot of its forms and > publications accessible, I can't find any of these: P 4012, 4491, 4491-W, or 6744. > Mostly > the problems are the inaccessibility of the decision trees in the PDFs > and the fact that sample forms (such as intake sheets) appear to be > embedded in the PDF as images, making it impossible to read. Does > anyone know if there are accessible versions of these anywhere? > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington% > 40fuse > .net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13854 - Release Date: > 01/28/17 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13848 - Release Date: > 01/27/17 > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g > mail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington%40fuse .net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13856 - Release Date: 01/28/17 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13856 - Release Date: 01/28/17 From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 14:28:31 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 09:28:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS In-Reply-To: <000901d27a38$ecf397b0$c6dac710$@fuse.net> References: <005e01d279bc$91b5a9a0$b520fce0$@fuse.net> <000901d27a38$ecf397b0$c6dac710$@fuse.net> Message-ID: Emily, Thanks. i enjoy the subject of tax quite a bit, but I'm not sure how much of it I want to do in the future considering its accessibility challenges, and the fact that other areas of the law in may respects don't have them so much. On 1/29/17, Emily Pennington via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi, Kelby. > My memory on those tests is growing a bit fuzzy now, but I recall them > being > a bit challenging. Many of the questions were multiple choice, true/false, > or presented a short textual scenario with choices. However, I recall some > questions having links to accompanying documents (i.e. someone's tax > return) > for interpretation. Most of it was readable with a screenreader, but I > remember it being challenging and taking a while on some of the problems. I > feel like Firefox was the best browser for me. > > Sincerely, > Emily > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby > carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:57 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: kelby carlson > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS > > Emily, > > At the moment my issue is with the certification test, since I'm not sure > I'll be able to read the problems. I'm not worried about the actual > preparation since I'll have a reader. Do you recall how you took the test? > > > > On 1/28/17, Emily Pennington via BlindLaw wrote: >> Dear Kelby, >> I did VITA two years ago, and I have a couple of those publications in >> Word >> -- namely 4491 and at least part of 4012. >> However, they are from two years ago, so perhaps they are not >> relevant anymore. In any event, my dad had to put in a painstaking >> amount of labor to get them into a readable form. Let me know if you >> think what I have would be relevant despite the two-year difference, >> and I would be happy to send them to you off-list. From my experience, >> I did not wind up needing most of the more graphic stuff in the >> publications thanks to the site walking me through the preparation >> process and the easier-to-read textual components of the publications. >> >> Sincerely, >> Emily >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby >> carlson via BlindLaw >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:37 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: kelby carlson >> Subject: [blindlaw] VITA Publications by the IRS >> >> All, >> >> Another tax question. I'm doing the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance >> through my school's clinic, and we have several publications that we >> use in the course of work. While the IRS has a lot of its forms and >> publications accessible, I can't find any of these: P 4012, 4491, 4491-W, > or 6744. >> Mostly >> the problems are the inaccessibility of the decision trees in the PDFs >> and the fact that sample forms (such as intake sheets) appear to be >> embedded in the PDF as images, making it impossible to read. Does >> anyone know if there are accessible versions of these anywhere? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington% >> 40fuse >> .net >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13854 - Release Date: >> 01/28/17 >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13848 - Release Date: >> 01/27/17 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g >> mail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/emilypennington%40fuse > .net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13856 - Release Date: 01/28/17 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13856 - Release Date: 01/28/17 > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > From njaskins at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 15:10:02 2017 From: njaskins at gmail.com (Nicole Askins) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:10:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the June LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings all. I am retaking the law school admissions test LSAT in June. I am sure as individuals with sight impairments who also are practicing attorneys have also embarked upon this experience. I have taken this exam before and initially did very well but upon examining last year I did not do so well. I am looking to learn from your experience with this exam. Specifically, how did you as a person with a sight impairment strategize, study, and approach The Logical game section of this exam? Seemingly, this portion of the exam is very biased to Ward cited individuals. Obviously, I am wrong as those who have taken it and are also sight-impaired have done so successfully. Thus, I am looking for a strategy to Broach this section.. I Any feedback will be welcome. I think it must be said though that I am a person who is visually impaired and use zoomtext and ease of access narrator and magnifier for my screen reading assistance. I have been a person with low vision for only the last six years of my life. Therefore, the familiarity with thinking and approaching studying is not necessarily geared to Ward a person who is sight-impaired. This means that I still think like a person who is fully sighted. I need to read as well as listen to text. Thank you for your input. With warmest regards Nicole J Askins From jsteelelouchart at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 15:19:57 2017 From: jsteelelouchart at gmail.com (J Steele-Louchart) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:19:57 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the June LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Nicole, Microsoft Excel will be your best friend. Put your rules either vertically down the page or horizontally at the top of the page, then put your two or three master game boards beside or beneath your rules, and manipulate the variables spatially the same exact way a sighted person does. Note that you'll need a clear and legible notation strategy, such as making blank spaces, putting a slash in when it could be this variable or that variable, etc. What I found, honestly, is that once I stopped assuming that my blindness was holding me back, I realized that in reality, I just had no idea how to do them. If you can understand the process, the accessibility will fall into place. Warmth, J On 1/30/17, Nicole Askins via BlindLaw wrote: > Greetings all. I am retaking the law school admissions test LSAT in June. I > am sure as individuals with sight impairments who also are practicing > attorneys have also embarked upon this experience. I have taken this exam > before and initially did very well but upon examining last year I did not > do so well. I am looking to learn from your experience with this exam. > Specifically, how did you as a person with a sight impairment strategize, > study, and approach The Logical game section of this exam? Seemingly, this > portion of the exam is very biased to Ward cited individuals. Obviously, I > am wrong as those who have taken it and are also sight-impaired have done > so successfully. Thus, I am looking for a strategy to Broach this section.. > I > > Any feedback will be welcome. I think it must be said though that I am a > person who is visually impaired and use zoomtext and ease of access > narrator and magnifier for my screen reading assistance. I have been a > person with low vision for only the last six years of my life. Therefore, > the familiarity with thinking and approaching studying is not necessarily > geared to Ward a person who is sight-impaired. This means that I still > think like a person who is fully sighted. I need to read as well as listen > to text. Thank you for your input. > > With warmest regards > Nicole J Askins > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com > -- J Steele-Louchart I Will Find A Way or I Will Make One From njaskins at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 15:45:30 2017 From: njaskins at gmail.com (Nicole Askins) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:45:30 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the June LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you. Follow-up question. How do you make time to enter in all of the rules within the cell? What I mean is given that there is a limited amount of time wouldn't take an extra few steps to set your game board up using Excel? Do you take the time to expand the rolls with in Excel? Do you create cell with and create outcome formulas? Does anyone have an example of how you would even set up an Excel spreadsheet to reflect logic games? It's still a bit abstract to put it within an Excel spreadsheet. I believe I have a good grasp on the linear games so far. I am diving deeper into the more complex games but, putting them in an Excel spreadsheet seems like a good idea but I can't really grasp the concept yet. Thank you again feel free to offer any comments On Jan 30, 2017 10:21 AM, "J Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw" < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi, Nicole, > > Microsoft Excel will be your best friend. Put your rules either > vertically down the page or horizontally at the top of the page, then > put your two or three master game boards beside or beneath your rules, > and manipulate the variables spatially the same exact way a sighted > person does. > > Note that you'll need a clear and legible notation strategy, such as > making blank spaces, putting a slash in when it could be this variable > or that variable, etc. > > What I found, honestly, is that once I stopped assuming that my > blindness was holding me back, I realized that in reality, I just had > no idea how to do them. If you can understand the process, the > accessibility will fall into place. > > Warmth, > J > > > On 1/30/17, Nicole Askins via BlindLaw wrote: > > Greetings all. I am retaking the law school admissions test LSAT in > June. I > > am sure as individuals with sight impairments who also are practicing > > attorneys have also embarked upon this experience. I have taken this exam > > before and initially did very well but upon examining last year I did not > > do so well. I am looking to learn from your experience with this exam. > > Specifically, how did you as a person with a sight impairment strategize, > > study, and approach The Logical game section of this exam? Seemingly, > this > > portion of the exam is very biased to Ward cited individuals. Obviously, > I > > am wrong as those who have taken it and are also sight-impaired have done > > so successfully. Thus, I am looking for a strategy to Broach this > section.. > > I > > > > Any feedback will be welcome. I think it must be said though that I am a > > person who is visually impaired and use zoomtext and ease of access > > narrator and magnifier for my screen reading assistance. I have been a > > person with low vision for only the last six years of my life. Therefore, > > the familiarity with thinking and approaching studying is not necessarily > > geared to Ward a person who is sight-impaired. This means that I still > > think like a person who is fully sighted. I need to read as well as > listen > > to text. Thank you for your input. > > > > With warmest regards > > Nicole J Askins > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ > jsteelelouchart%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > J Steele-Louchart > > I Will Find A Way or I Will Make One > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/njaskins%40gmail.com >