From tim at timeldermusic.com Mon Oct 2 01:29:47 2017 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 18:29:47 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to blindlaw at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." From PChang at nfb.org Mon Oct 2 11:33:26 2017 From: PChang at nfb.org (Chang, Patti) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:33:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> References: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> Message-ID: I also recently learned that you should be sure your screen is maximized. Hit alt and space and then x. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:30 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to blindlaw at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 12:31:04 2017 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:01:04 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: References: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> Message-ID: Yes, I do maximize it whenever I work on a document. Tim, I achieve the same result by copy-pasting the document with track changes into a blank document. This results in all changes being automatically accepted in the latter. The hot key option appears to be a quicker way of doing this, so I'll check it out. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Chang, Patti via BlindLaw wrote: > > I also recently learned that you should be sure your screen is maximized. Hit alt and space and then x. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:30 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 > > > I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. > I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 > > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Mon Oct 2 14:47:20 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 09:47:20 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard Message-ID: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> What is the best accessible Bluetooth keyboard for an iPhone or an iPad? Thanks! Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler,PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com NOTICE the information contained in this communication is protected by the attorney/client and/or the work/product privileges. It along with any attachments here to, is also covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2512. It is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named in the communication, and the privileges are not waived by virtue of this having been sent by electronic mail. If the person actually receiving this communication or any other reader of the communication is not the named recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (please call collect) and delete the original from your system. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Yes, I do maximize it whenever I work on a document. > Tim, I achieve the same result by copy-pasting the document with track changes into a blank document. This results in all changes being automatically accepted in the latter. The hot key option appears to be a quicker way of doing this, so I'll check it out. > > Best, > Rahul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Chang, Patti via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I also recently learned that you should be sure your screen is maximized. Hit alt and space and then x. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw >> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:30 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >> >> >> I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. >> I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >> >> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang%40nfb.org >> >> Disclaimer >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. >> >> This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com > From ttomasi at driowa.org Mon Oct 2 15:00:00 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 15:00:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard In-Reply-To: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> References: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: That is a subjective question, as people have varying preferences. What size keyboard are you looking for? Are you looking for something folding or pocket-size? If you are looking for a portable keyboard about the size of a laptop keyboard with keys almost the size of those on a standard keyboard, I recommend the Logitech keyboards. Another bonus of these units is that newer models can connect to multiple Bluetooth-enabled devices at once and you can easily switch between those devices with a hotkey. I am currently using the Logitech K760 which is a solar model requiring no battery. This unit charges via multiple light sources, including standard fluorescent office lighting. However, I believe this particular model has been discontinued and I am not sure whether it can pair with more than one Bluetooth device at once. I have also had good luck with Apple Bluetooth keyboards, though I am not sure how well they work when paired with a PC. I have used both Logitech and Apple models with my iPhone. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:47 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Shannon Geihsler ; tim at timeldermusic.com Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard What is the best accessible Bluetooth keyboard for an iPhone or an iPad? Thanks! Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler,PLLC 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Phone: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com NOTICE the information contained in this communication is protected by the attorney/client and/or the work/product privileges. It along with any attachments here to, is also covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2512. It is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named in the communication, and the privileges are not waived by virtue of this having been sent by electronic mail. If the person actually receiving this communication or any other reader of the communication is not the named recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (please call collect) and delete the original from your system. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Yes, I do maximize it whenever I work on a document. > Tim, I achieve the same result by copy-pasting the document with track changes into a blank document. This results in all changes being automatically accepted in the latter. The hot key option appears to be a quicker way of doing this, so I'll check it out. > > Best, > Rahul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Chang, Patti via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I also recently learned that you should be sure your screen is maximized. Hit alt and space and then x. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw >> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:30 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >> >> >> I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. >> I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >> >> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang%40nfb.org >> >> Disclaimer >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. >> >> This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From agtolentino at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 15:16:41 2017 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 08:16:41 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <5F08AF37-1E32-43C8-90A8-5C1AE56C17ED@gmail.com> Another advantage of Logitech keyboards is that they intelligently remap the Alt/Option and Windows/Command keys so that they’re in the right places when you switch between Windows and iOS. The Logitech keyboards that end with 80 pair with three devices. The 380 is the most compact while the 480 has a slot you can use to prop up an iPad, and the K780 has a number pad and comes with a USB dongle you can plug into a computer that doesn’t have Bluetooth. The Zagg Limitless keyboard comes with a similar key remapping feature and has a keyboard slot: it’s a little thinner and lighter than the K480. The Zagg charges via microUSB while the Logitech 80 series keyboards have AAA batteries. Apple’s Wireless Keyboard is very nice but a little too flimsy to carry around, and I wouldn’t recommend the Magic keyboard given its high price and shallow key travel. I’m typing this reply on an iClever tri-fold keyboard that actually feels a lot like a decent laptop. The big takeaway is probably that unless you’re willing to risk having to return a few before you find one you like, I’d go to somewhere like Staples or Best Buy and try what they have then see if they’ll price match Amazon. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Oct 2, 2017, at 08:00, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > That is a subjective question, as people have varying preferences. What size keyboard are you looking for? Are you looking for something folding or pocket-size? If you are looking for a portable keyboard about the size of a laptop keyboard with keys almost the size of those on a standard keyboard, I recommend the Logitech keyboards. Another bonus of these units is that newer models can connect to multiple Bluetooth-enabled devices at once and you can easily switch between those devices with a hotkey. I am currently using the Logitech K760 which is a solar model requiring no battery. This unit charges via multiple light sources, including standard fluorescent office lighting. However, I believe this particular model has been discontinued and I am not sure whether it can pair with more than one Bluetooth device at once. I have also had good luck with Apple Bluetooth keyboards, though I am not sure how well they work when paired with a PC. I have used both Logitech and Apple models with my iPhone. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Geihsler via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:47 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Shannon Geihsler ; tim at timeldermusic.com > Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard > > What is the best accessible Bluetooth keyboard for an iPhone or an iPad? Thanks! > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler,PLLC > 1001 Main Street, Suite 803 > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > Phone: (806) 763-3999 > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > NOTICE the information contained in this communication is protected by the attorney/client and/or the work/product privileges. It along with any attachments here to, is also covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2512. It is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named in the communication, and the privileges are not waived by virtue of this having been sent by electronic mail. If the person actually receiving this communication or any other reader of the communication is not the named recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (please call collect) and delete the original from your system. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 2, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Yes, I do maximize it whenever I work on a document. >> Tim, I achieve the same result by copy-pasting the document with track changes into a blank document. This results in all changes being automatically accepted in the latter. The hot key option appears to be a quicker way of doing this, so I'll check it out. >> >> Best, >> Rahul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Chang, Patti via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I also recently learned that you should be sure your screen is maximized. Hit alt and space and then x. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:30 PM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >>> >>> >>> I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. >>> I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 >>> >>> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>> "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang%40nfb.org >>> >>> Disclaimer >>> >>> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:02:03 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Blue tooth keyboard In-Reply-To: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> References: <7CACFD2F-9674-497E-A472-C49688F4FDA2@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <04d701d33ba0$2ba36110$82ea2330$@com> I currently play with Plugable's Compact Bluetooth Keyboard. It is a foldable one, fits snugly in my coat pocket, and can be pared with iOS, Android and Windows! I'm down for Android, I don't pare it with Windows which I am hoping to KICK away some time soon. Plugable also makes a desktop model of this keyboard which also folds. It can also be pared with iOS, Windows, and Android. Check it out on amazon.com/ Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Oct 3 14:02:48 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:02:48 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] WestCheck Message-ID: Hello, all. I just received an invitation to a webinar on WestCheck which is apparently a new product from Westlaw. I have pasted a description below. Does anyone know if this tool is accessible with screenreaders, more specifically JAWS? Given our recent discussions regarding the inability to copy and paste Westlaw citations into Microsoft Word, I am assuming it is not accessible. WestCheck is an automated citation-checking tool that verifies the status of citations in your legal document or in a citations list you create manually. Use the WestCheck tool to: * Check the status of your citations in KeyCite * Create a Cited Decisions list of cases cited by your case * Access QuoteRight to verify the accuracy of quotations in your documents. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3845 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 16:52:09 2017 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (sy.hoekstra at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 12:52:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> References: <027101d33b1d$ef405f20$cdc11d60$@timeldermusic.com> Message-ID: <013901d33c67$f42a0950$dc7e1bf0$@gmail.com> Tim, did you custom create this hot key to switch between the different track change modes somehow, or does Word have one built in already? -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:30 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 I'm curious if folks can use the quick nav "r" to jump to each revision and then a hot key to toggle between the "Show Final" and "Show markup" options. I generally toggle on the quick nav (JAWS command + Z) and then off again to locate revisions and then, if the revisions are too complicated to quickly review, turn "Final" mode on to read the final result without all the verbiage of the revisions. Having a hot key to quickly go back and forth from Original, Final and Markup modes is helpful. I've also found that refreshing the screen "JAWS key + esc." And switching views around "draft, print preview, etc." helps if track changes aren't showing up in JAWS. All this is in Word 2010. I've not had as much reliable success in word 2016. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:00 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: BlindLaw Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17 Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to blindlaw at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.co m From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Oct 5 20:45:51 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:45:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Supreme Court Punts On ADA, Special Ed, Disability Scoop, October 3, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2017/10/03/supreme-court-punts-ada-special-ed/24252/ Supreme Court Punts On ADA, Special Ed Disability Scoop October 3, 2017 By Michelle Diament As the nation's high court enters its new term, the justices declined to weigh in on what types of spaces the Americans with Disabilities Act covers and what counts as a child's placement under special education law. In a slew of orders issued Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court said it would not hear a case brought by a man with visual impairment who argued that vending machines ought to be accessible under the ADA. The court also turned away a claim related to the "stay put" provision of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. The ADA case was brought by Emmett Magee who is blind and sought to use Coca-Cola vending machines at a hospital and a bus station. However, because of the machines' glass-front design, Magee said he was unable to know what he was selecting and at what price. Magee alleged that the machines were in violation of the ADA, but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit determined that the machines were not subject to the public accommodations mandate of the law because they are not "a physical place open to public access." In appealing to the Supreme Court, Magee argued that there is confusion because courts in other parts of the country have found differently. However, by electing not to hear the matter, the Supreme Court has allowed the lower court ruling to stand. Meanwhile, the high court rejected the appeal of a Seattle family of a student with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder who wanted to clarify the IDEA's "stay put" provision. Under federal special education law, students have a right to remain in their current educational placement while disputes between parents and schools are being sorted out. The Seattle case questions what qualifies as a student's current placement. In the matter, the student known in court papers as N.E. never attended the self-contained classroom assigned in his individualized education program, or IEP, and his parents objected to the placement. Nonetheless, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit agreed with the Seattle School District that the self-contained classroom counted as the child's current placement simply because it was stated in the IEP. The Supreme Court refused to hear the case leaving the lower court ruling intact. Separately, the justices ordered another special education case known as E.F. v. Newport Mesa Unified School District to be sent back to a lower court for re-examination in light of the Supreme Court's decision earlier this year in Endrew F. v. Douglas County School District. That decision found that public schools must provide students with disabilities more than minimal benefit in order to meet their obligations under IDEA. From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Thu Oct 5 21:45:04 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:45:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] question on app Message-ID: <000001d33e23$34e53390$9eaf9ab0$@mediacombb.net> Hi, I recently downloaded a free app from the app store from apple. The app is critical pass. This app has various categories of law. Each category then has several cards that give the points of the section of law. Though the app itself is free, the cards for the various categories are not. You can buy a section or the whole lot of cars. The entire lot costs $99.00. The app reads very well. The problem does not show up until you click on on the cards in a category. Voiceover will not read these cards. At least, I have not found a way to get it to read the cards. My daughter-in-law tells me that the cards are there and can be read, using sight, with no problem. Has anyone else seen this app? If so, what workarounds have you found to make the cards readable? I appreciate any help. Thanks. Loren From ttomasi at driowa.org Sat Oct 7 17:35:31 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 17:35:31 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers Message-ID: Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can call an agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses with a camera. I am working over the weekend when no one is in my office and none of my usual readers are available. I would like to access some visual information that is not readily accessible via optical character recognition. I thought about calling an Aira agent but am concerned about potential confidentiality and ethics issues. I certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality agreement, but the problem is that I will likely get different agents each time I call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data transmitted via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by Aira. Aira stresses that all calls are kept confidential. The documents I would be looking at are exhibits for hearings and would contain some confidential information about clients, including medical records. Has anyone considered this issue? How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? What unique implications arise? In more general terms, how do members of this list handle confidentiality of client information and readers? Do you ask all readers to sign confidentiality agreements? If this is not your policy, do your clients ever ask you to have your readers sign confidentiality agreements regarding their records when the reader is not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there any legal precedent for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual interpreter and is thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might this present in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be interested in discussing this on or off list. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3845 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 19:38:49 2017 From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (sy.hoekstra at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 15:38:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015801d33fa3$e65a19c0$b30e4d40$@gmail.com> I would also like to hear any answers to these questions and think it would be a good conversation to have on-list to the extent possible. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:36 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can call an agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses with a camera. I am working over the weekend when no one is in my office and none of my usual readers are available. I would like to access some visual information that is not readily accessible via optical character recognition. I thought about calling an Aira agent but am concerned about potential confidentiality and ethics issues. I certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality agreement, but the problem is that I will likely get different agents each time I call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data transmitted via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by Aira. Aira stresses that all calls are kept confidential. The documents I would be looking at are exhibits for hearings and would contain some confidential information about clients, including medical records. Has anyone considered this issue? How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? What unique implications arise? In more general terms, how do members of this list handle confidentiality of client information and readers? Do you ask all readers to sign confidentiality agreements? If this is not your policy, do your clients ever ask you to have your readers sign confidentiality agreements regarding their records when the reader is not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there any legal precedent for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual interpreter and is thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might this present in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be interested in discussing this on or off list. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From angie.matney at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 21:04:51 2017 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 17:04:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers In-Reply-To: <015801d33fa3$e65a19c0$b30e4d40$@gmail.com> References: <015801d33fa3$e65a19c0$b30e4d40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <277B1793-4F1B-4FE1-93A0-91032B1A5C43@gmail.com> I've been considering this issue as well. I believe my firm's position would be that we would need to understand how the data was transmitted (if encrytion is used, etc), and they would want a confidentiality agreement with AIRA, as well as assurances that AIRA had sufficient confidentiality agreements in place with its employees. I haven't explored this with them yet, but I might be tempted to do so. Angie Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:38 PM, sy.hoekstra--- via BlindLaw wrote: > > I would also like to hear any answers to these questions and think it would > be a good conversation to have on-list to the extent possible. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:36 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of > Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers > > Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can call an > agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses with a camera. I > am working over the weekend when no one is in my office and none of my usual > readers are available. I would like to access some visual information that > is not readily accessible via optical character recognition. I thought about > calling an Aira agent but am concerned about potential confidentiality and > ethics issues. I certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality > agreement, but the problem is that I will likely get different agents each > time I call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would > remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data transmitted > via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by Aira. Aira stresses > that all calls are kept confidential. The documents I would be looking at > are exhibits for hearings and would contain some confidential information > about clients, including medical records. Has anyone considered this issue? > How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? > What unique implications arise? > > In more general terms, how do members of this list handle confidentiality of > client information and readers? Do you ask all readers to sign > confidentiality agreements? If this is not your policy, do your clients ever > ask you to have your readers sign confidentiality agreements regarding their > records when the reader is not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there > any legal precedent for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual > interpreter and is thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might > this present in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential > information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be > interested in discussing this on or off list. > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 23:01:10 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (luis Mendez) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 19:01:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers In-Reply-To: <277B1793-4F1B-4FE1-93A0-91032B1A5C43@gmail.com> References: <015801d33fa3$e65a19c0$b30e4d40$@gmail.com> <277B1793-4F1B-4FE1-93A0-91032B1A5C43@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BA90F30-CEBD-4ED3-B4B4-5D572CA7001C@gmail.com> The agreement would have to be entered into between the firm and AIRA, effectively making AIRA of counsel to the firm for the purpose of providing reading services. The agreement would have to explicitly supersede the terms of AIRA’s license with respect to ownership, retention of use of data. Perhaps NFB can work with AIRA to craft a model agreement. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: > > I've been considering this issue as well. I believe my firm's position would be that we would need to understand how the data was transmitted (if encrytion is used, etc), and they would want a confidentiality agreement with AIRA, as well as assurances that AIRA had sufficient confidentiality agreements in place with its employees. I haven't explored this with them yet, but I might be tempted to do so. > > Angie > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:38 PM, sy.hoekstra--- via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I would also like to hear any answers to these questions and think it would >> be a good conversation to have on-list to the extent possible. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:36 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Tai Tomasi >> Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of >> Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers >> >> Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can call an >> agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses with a camera. I >> am working over the weekend when no one is in my office and none of my usual >> readers are available. I would like to access some visual information that >> is not readily accessible via optical character recognition. I thought about >> calling an Aira agent but am concerned about potential confidentiality and >> ethics issues. I certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality >> agreement, but the problem is that I will likely get different agents each >> time I call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would >> remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data transmitted >> via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by Aira. Aira stresses >> that all calls are kept confidential. The documents I would be looking at >> are exhibits for hearings and would contain some confidential information >> about clients, including medical records. Has anyone considered this issue? >> How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? >> What unique implications arise? >> >> In more general terms, how do members of this list handle confidentiality of >> client information and readers? Do you ask all readers to sign >> confidentiality agreements? If this is not your policy, do your clients ever >> ask you to have your readers sign confidentiality agreements regarding their >> records when the reader is not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there >> any legal precedent for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual >> interpreter and is thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might >> this present in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential >> information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be >> interested in discussing this on or off list. >> >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from >> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any >> printouts. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From davant1958 at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 00:45:22 2017 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (Denise R Avant) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:45:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers References: <002701d34074$a2dc7fe0$e8957fa0$@michaelhingson.com> Message-ID: <2536FE7F-D881-4587-AB1F-134BA2F1589D@gmail.com> Hello, Please see the below email on the email string Denise R. Avant President National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Live the life you want Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Michael Hingson" > Date: October 8, 2017 at 3:33:01 PM CDT > To: "'denise Avant'" > Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers > > Denise, > > Actually there are answers. I am working to get a document I can transmit to > you that discusses these questions. > > Meantime, all agents sign strict confidentiality agreements. Also, data is > highly encrypted. > > > Best Regards, > > > Michael Hingson > > -----Original Message----- > From: denise Avant [mailto:davant1958 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 2:11 AM > To: 'Michael Hingson' > Subject: FW: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability > Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers > > Mike, > Perhaps you will want to review the below e-mail string from the lawyers > group. Maybe you can weigh in or talk to the people at AIRA about this. > > > > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Live the life you want. > For more information about NFBI, > Go to www.nfbofillinois.org. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie > Matney via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 4:05 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Angie Matney > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability > Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers > > I've been considering this issue as well. I believe my firm's position would > be that we would need to understand how the data was transmitted (if > encrytion is used, etc), and they would want a confidentiality agreement > with AIRA, as well as assurances that AIRA had sufficient confidentiality > agreements in place with its employees. I haven't explored this with them > yet, but I might be tempted to do so. > > Angie > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:38 PM, sy.hoekstra--- via BlindLaw > wrote: >> >> I would also like to hear any answers to these questions and think it >> would be a good conversation to have on-list to the extent possible. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >> Tomasi via BlindLaw >> Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:36 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Tai Tomasi >> Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability >> Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person >> Readers >> >> Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can >> call an agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses >> with a camera. I am working over the weekend when no one is in my >> office and none of my usual readers are available. I would like to >> access some visual information that is not readily accessible via >> optical character recognition. I thought about calling an Aira agent >> but am concerned about potential confidentiality and ethics issues. I >> certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality agreement, but >> the problem is that I will likely get different agents each time I >> call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would >> remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data >> transmitted via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by >> Aira. Aira stresses that all calls are kept confidential. The >> documents I would be looking at are exhibits for hearings and would > contain some confidential information about clients, including medical > records. Has anyone considered this issue? >> How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? >> What unique implications arise? >> >> In more general terms, how do members of this list handle >> confidentiality of client information and readers? Do you ask all >> readers to sign confidentiality agreements? If this is not your >> policy, do your clients ever ask you to have your readers sign >> confidentiality agreements regarding their records when the reader is >> not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there any legal precedent >> for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual interpreter and is >> thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might this present >> in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential >> information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be > interested in discussing this on or off list. >> >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >> Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If >> you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately >> and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives >> or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com > > From rthomas48 at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 16:17:16 2017 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:17:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] template for a complaint under $5000 Message-ID: Hey guys, I need to write a complaint up for a client at my internship. The claim is for under $5000. Does anyone have a template or know how I could get one? This is the first time I am writing a complaint and I do not want it to look bad. From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Oct 10 16:38:46 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:38:46 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Deaf-blind patrons must be able to go to the movies too, court says, Fox News, "Three Days Ago" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/07/deaf-blind-patrons-must-be-able-to-go-to-movies-too-court-says.html Deaf-blind patrons must be able to go to the movies too, court says Fox News "Three Days Ago" Associated Press An appeals court ruled that federal disability law requires movie theaters to provide specialized interpreters to patrons who are deaf and blind. An appeals court ruled that federal disability law requires movie theaters to provide specialized interpreters to patrons who are deaf and blind. (iStock) Federal disability law requires movie theaters to provide specialized interpreters to patrons who are deaf and blind, an appeals court said Friday. The Philadelphia-based 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against Cinemark, the nation's third-largest movie chain, in a case involving a Pennsylvania man who wanted to see the 2014 movie "Gone Girl" and asked a Cinemark theater in Pittsburgh to supply a "tactile interpreter." The theater denied his request. The plaintiff, Paul McGann, is a movie enthusiast who reads American Sign Language through touch. He uses a method of tactile interpretation that involves placing his hands over the hands of an interpreter who uses sign language to describe the movie's action, dialogue and even the audience response. AIRLINE DIDN'T ALLOW BLIND MAN, GRANDDAUGHTER ON PLANE The federal appeals court concluded Friday that tactile interpreters are covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act, which requires that public accommodations furnish "auxiliary aids and services" to patrons with vision, hearing and speech disabilities." It would be impossible for a deaf-blind person to experience the movie and understand the content without the provision of tactile interpretation," said Carol A. Horowitz, managing attorney of Disability Rights Pennsylvania, which filed suit on McGann's behalf. The ruling said Cinemark still can argue that providing the interpreters would present an "undue burden," an exception to the disability law that takes into account the cost of the accommodation and the business's ability to pay for it. It sent the case back to a federal judge to consider that argument. WHY OTHER SENSES MAY BE HEIGHTENED IN BLIND PEOPLE Because of the intensive nature of the work, McGann requires the services of two interpreters. The interpreters cost a few hundred dollars per showing.Cinemark earned $257 million in 2016. The movie chain also has said that before McGann, it had never before received a request for tactile interpretation. A spokesperson for the Plano, Texas-based chain said Cinemark is evaluating its legal options. The U.S. Department of Justice filed documents in support of McGann. From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Oct 10 20:20:18 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:20:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Message-ID: Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3845 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From lmendez716 at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 20:40:31 2017 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:40:31 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02bd01d34208$045dbce0$0d1936a0$@gmail.com> Good afternoon: You may wish to consider using a cellular equip iPad Pro or a Surface Pro with access to a cloud based drive. On the whole, it sounds like you handled the situation very well. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 20:49:27 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:49:27 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: <02bd01d34208$045dbce0$0d1936a0$@gmail.com> References: <02bd01d34208$045dbce0$0d1936a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Would you not have been entitled to an adjournment in the circumstances? Kind regards Ger On 10/10/17, Luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > Good afternoon: > > You may wish to consider using a cellular equip iPad Pro or a Surface Pro > with access to a cloud based drive. On the whole, it sounds like you > handled the situation very well. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial > > Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my > hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am > glad > that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and > that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my > exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal > assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of > my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer > itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille > display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of > print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard > copy > Braille. > > Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are > other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any > printouts. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Tue Oct 10 20:51:54 2017 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:51:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25b30338d6804de0bdd0ac49f12f19c9@wiennergould.com> Ouch! There isn't an easy answer to that. I do find that business laptops, as opposed to the lower-priced consumer models, tend to be more reliable. Also, I expect but do not know for sure, that SSD hard drives are less likely to fail than the normal spinning platter type. One option is to have a backup laptop that your assistant carries. Luckily, this is not likely to happen often. I have been practicing for 25 years, and it has never happened to me. Computers are like anything else. When they get old, they become less reliable. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 20:53:43 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:53:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Westlaw with a Notetaker Message-ID: All, Is there any way to use Westlaw Next with a BrailleSense U2? The mobile site used to be accessible, but doesn't seem so anymore. From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Oct 10 20:59:09 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:59:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: References: <02bd01d34208$045dbce0$0d1936a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello. I suppose that could have been an option. However, my client has mobility disabilities and had traveled with significant difficulty to the hearing site. Due to her disabilities, arranging transportation is quite difficult for her. Honestly, since I knew the exhibits so well, I never even thought of postponing the hearing. I knew I could represent her well, and the judge knew of my difficulties. Had I needed to confer with my assistant, the judge would have accommodated me. As it was, we had several breaks in testimony where I could ask my assistant short questions about the material. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:49 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Gerard Sadlier Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Hello Would you not have been entitled to an adjournment in the circumstances? Kind regards Ger On 10/10/17, Luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > Good afternoon: > > You may wish to consider using a cellular equip iPad Pro or a Surface > Pro with access to a cloud based drive. On the whole, it sounds like > you handled the situation very well. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial > > Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and > my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. > I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my > Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable > to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very > well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly > from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy > access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were > too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access > to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would > have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. > > Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what > are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From NSingh at cov.com Tue Oct 10 21:01:27 2017 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:01:27 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: <25b30338d6804de0bdd0ac49f12f19c9@wiennergould.com> References: <25b30338d6804de0bdd0ac49f12f19c9@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <04ea16385c714fb89932c78f4384f3a9@CBIvEX02eUS.cov.com> Wanted to clarify that solid state disks are indeed more reliable than the traditional moving hard drive. However, I do not think many businesses use this kind of memory. It is not clear to me why that should be, since memory is fairly inexpensive now. For really time critical documents, I like to save them in both my local hard drive and on the firm's cloud. However, I would need a second laptop if for some reason I could not get my first unit to operate correctly. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:52 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Dan Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Ouch! There isn't an easy answer to that. I do find that business laptops, as opposed to the lower-priced consumer models, tend to be more reliable. Also, I expect but do not know for sure, that SSD hard drives are less likely to fail than the normal spinning platter type. One option is to have a backup laptop that your assistant carries. Luckily, this is not likely to happen often. I have been practicing for 25 years, and it has never happened to me. Computers are like anything else. When they get old, they become less reliable. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Tue Oct 10 21:02:10 2017 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:02:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] template for a complaint under $5000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0OXM002EKL3KV020@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> I have two suggestions for you. First, ask your supervisor (or someone else at the organization) if they have such a template. If they have filed similar complaints before, they probably do because in actual practice, lawyers rarely draft any documents from scratch. If the organization does not have a helpful template, you may be able to find one on one of the commercial legal databases. Lexis and Westlaw in particular have many form templates for a wide variety of litigation and transactional documents. Best, Michal Nowicki Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:20 AM To: blind law Cc: Roderick Thomas Subject: [blindlaw] template for a complaint under $5000 Hey guys, I need to write a complaint up for a client at my internship. The claim is for under $5000. Does anyone have a template or know how I could get one? This is the first time I am writing a complaint and I do not want it to look bad. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 21:03:25 2017 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:03:25 +0100 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: <04ea16385c714fb89932c78f4384f3a9@CBIvEX02eUS.cov.com> References: <25b30338d6804de0bdd0ac49f12f19c9@wiennergould.com> <04ea16385c714fb89932c78f4384f3a9@CBIvEX02eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: Fair play so. On 10/10/17, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Wanted to clarify that solid state disks are indeed more reliable than the > traditional moving hard drive. However, I do not think many businesses use > this kind of memory. It is not clear to me why that should be, since memory > is fairly inexpensive now. > > For really time critical documents, I like to save them in both my local > hard drive and on the firm's cloud. However, I would need a second laptop if > for some reason I could not get my first unit to operate correctly. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz > via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:52 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Dan Beitz > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial > > Ouch! There isn't an easy answer to that. I do find that business laptops, > as opposed to the lower-priced consumer models, tend to be more reliable. > Also, I expect but do not know for sure, that SSD hard drives are less > likely to fail than the normal spinning platter type. One option is to have > a backup laptop that your assistant carries. Luckily, this is not likely to > happen often. I have been practicing for 25 years, and it has never happened > to me. Computers are like anything else. When they get old, they become > less reliable. > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI  48307 > Phone:  (248) 841-9405 > Fax:  (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial > > Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my > hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad > that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and > that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my > exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal > assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of > my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer > itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille > display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of > print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy > Braille. > > Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are > other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. 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If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/gerard.sadlier%40gmail.com > From p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au Tue Oct 10 21:44:57 2017 From: p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au (Paul Harpur) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:44:57 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial In-Reply-To: <04ea16385c714fb89932c78f4384f3a9@CBIvEX02eUS.cov.com> References: <25b30338d6804de0bdd0ac49f12f19c9@wiennergould.com> <04ea16385c714fb89932c78f4384f3a9@CBIvEX02eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: <5fb5b7eaa3ac4c59808b721b9c359ba2@uq-exmbx6.soe.uq.edu.au> I lecture at university and always take 2 laptops with me. One for pwoerpoint and one with my notes. I do this so if one dies I have the other. This happened once. Well it did not die but tried to do a update in the middle of a presentation. Dr Paul Harpur | Senior Lecturer TC Beirne School of Law | The University of Queensland Room W205, Level 2 | Forgan Smith Building | St Lucia Campus | Brisbane Queensland 4072 | Australia T +61 7 336 58864 | M +61 417 635 609 | E p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au | W https://law.uq.edu.au/paul-harpur Dr Harpur's academic profile page can be accessed here and details on his publications can be found on his Google Citation, SSRN and Orcid profiles. Dr Harpur is the author of: Paul Harpur, Discrimination, Copyright and Equality: Opening the Ebook for the Print Disabled (2017) Cambridge University Press. CRICOS Provider Number 00025B This email (including any attached files) is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential information of The University of Queensland. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that any transmission, distribution, printing or photocopying of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete and notify me. Unless explicitly stated the opinions expressed in this email do not necessarily represent the official position of The University of Queensland. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2017 7:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Wanted to clarify that solid state disks are indeed more reliable than the traditional moving hard drive. However, I do not think many businesses use this kind of memory. It is not clear to me why that should be, since memory is fairly inexpensive now. For really time critical documents, I like to save them in both my local hard drive and on the firm's cloud. However, I would need a second laptop if for some reason I could not get my first unit to operate correctly. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:52 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Dan Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Ouch! There isn't an easy answer to that. I do find that business laptops, as opposed to the lower-priced consumer models, tend to be more reliable. Also, I expect but do not know for sure, that SSD hard drives are less likely to fail than the normal spinning platter type. One option is to have a backup laptop that your assistant carries. Luckily, this is not likely to happen often. I have been practicing for 25 years, and it has never happened to me. Computers are like anything else. When they get old, they become less reliable. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:20 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Attorney Trials and Tribulations At Trial Hi, all. I represented a client at an administrative hearing today and my hard drive failed. I was unable to access anything on my computer. I am glad that I thought ahead to put all of my questions onto my Braille display and that I had prepared extensively, as I was unable to bring up any of my exhibits on my Braille display. I knew them very well, and I had my legal assistant with whom I could confer briefly from time to time. I had all of my materials on a flash drive for easy access, as well as on the computer itself. However, the exhibits were too voluminous to open with my Braille display. I do not have access to a Braille embosser, and the huge binder of print exhibits would have been too large to reproduce and carry in hard copy Braille. Other than having a Braille display and using a legal assistant, what are other techniques for handling such terrifying situations? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paulharpur%40gmail.com From mrallman116 at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 00:14:17 2017 From: mrallman116 at gmail.com (mrallman116 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:14:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] template for a complaint under $5000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97664DFB-8C7F-48A1-AEBB-22610336ADB9@gmail.com> Good evening. It is very helpful if the firm you work for has a pleadings bank but many times that is not the case. I agree with others who have suggested checking on Westlaw or Lexus for forms but a colleague may also have drafted one as well so you might want to check. Also, some of this depends on where you are filing the complaint. Are you filing in state or federal court? Administratively? I don’t know what jurisdiction you are in or what court you are filing in. That will affect things to some degree. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hey guys, I need to write a complaint up for a client at my internship. The claim is for under $5000. Does anyone have a template or know how I could get one? This is the first time I am writing a complaint and I do not want it to look bad. > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 19:33:54 2017 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:33:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses Message-ID: Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? From m13grey at yahoo.com Wed Oct 11 19:40:22 2017 From: m13grey at yahoo.com (Meredith Ballard) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:40:22 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kelly, You can try out the websites for Themis, Barbri, and Kaplan without having to pay first by signing up for an MPRE class. Even if you are not studying for the MPRE, this lets you try out the accessibility of the website before committing any money. I’m not sure what software you are using, so I can’t tell you which one to choose, but I used Themis and had great results on the NC bar exam. I hope that info helps! Sincerely, Meredith > On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? > > Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/m13grey%40yahoo.com From NSingh at cov.com Wed Oct 11 19:41:26 2017 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:41:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <747b9f43b5e343a6b0d4941b7868a779@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com> BARBRI, though I understand this outfit was sued relating to accessibility. I had a great experience with them. Only a few items were inaccessible, and we found alternates. Studying for the NY bar was not so great. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:34 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Oct 11 19:51:14 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:51:14 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses In-Reply-To: <747b9f43b5e343a6b0d4941b7868a779@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com> References: <747b9f43b5e343a6b0d4941b7868a779@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: There was a recent successful mediation on behalf of the plaintiffs in the BARBRI case, and I am optimistic it will make a difference for future BARBRI students. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:41 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses BARBRI, though I understand this outfit was sued relating to accessibility. I had a great experience with them. Only a few items were inaccessible, and we found alternates. Studying for the NY bar was not so great. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:34 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From agtolentino at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 20:13:21 2017 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:13:21 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses In-Reply-To: References: <747b9f43b5e343a6b0d4941b7868a779@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: I used BarMax. It was ridiculously easy. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:51, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > There was a recent successful mediation on behalf of the plaintiffs in the BARBRI case, and I am optimistic it will make a difference for future BARBRI students. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:41 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses > > BARBRI, though I understand this outfit was sued relating to accessibility. I had a great experience with them. Only a few items were inaccessible, and we found alternates. Studying for the NY bar was not so great. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:34 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Bar Prep Courses > > Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? > > Which bar preparation courses have you all found to be the best and most accessible? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu Oct 12 16:34:54 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 16:34:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: College Websites Must Accommodate Disabled Students, Lawsuits Say, New York Times, October 11, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/nyregion/college-websites-disabled.html College Websites Must Accommodate Disabled Students, Lawsuits Say New York Times October 11, 2017 By Vivian Wang Hofstra University on Long Island is one of eight New York colleges named in lawsuits because, the suits say, their websites are inaccessible to the plaintiff, who is blind, and therefore in violation of the Americans With Disabilities Act. Credit George Etheredge for The New York Times The lawsuits came one after the other, against Fordham University, Manhattan College, Long Island University and other area colleges and universities. In all, eight suits have been filed in federal court in Manhattan over the past two weeks, most recently against Hofstra University on Long Island on Oct. 4. In each case, lawyers for Emanuel Delacruz, who is blind, charged that the college's website is inaccessible to their plaintiff and therefore in violation of the Americans With Disabilities Act. The filings are part of a growing number of actions involving accessibility and the internet. The federal law requires that public accommodations be accessible to those with disabilities, and legal battles have long revolved around physical spaces and therefore physical solutions, such as elevators or wheelchair ramps. Now, advocates and lawyers argue, websites are also public spaces and need to be accessible, with things like captions or audio descriptions. Since January 2015, at least 751 lawsuits have been filed over the issue. The vast majority have focused on retailers and restaurants, according to a legal blog that tracks such suits. Only seven of the suits have been directed at academic websites. Mr. Delacruz's suits alone doubled that count. And another website, which includes not only lawsuits but also government investigations into web or technological accessibility, lists 37 schools that have been accused of noncompliance with disability law. Advocates for the deaf sued Harvard and M.I.T. in 2015 for failing to caption online lectures, courses and other educational materials. In 2016, after a complaint by two deaf people, the Department of Justice's civil rights division found the University of California, Berkeley, had violated disability law by not providing the appropriate accommodations for its own free video lectures and podcasts. "As more and more students are aware of their rights, and as websites have become so much of what universities now focus on, in their marketing materials for example, it's not surprising to me that there will be an increase in these types of lawsuits," said Arlene Kanter, director of the Disability Law and Policy Program at Syracuse University's law school. Whether the plaintiffs will prevail is unclear. The Americans With Disabilities Act, written in 1990, makes no mention of the internet. The Department of Justice, which enforces the act, has issued guidelines about web accessibility but no formal regulations on how to achieve it - and they seem unlikely to materialize soon, after the federal government in July placed web regulations on its list of "inactive" agenda items. The question has largely been left to judges, who have ruled both for and against disabled plaintiffs. In March, for example, a California judge dismissed a blind man's suit against Domino's Pizza, because the chain offered an option to order by telephone. But in June, a Florida judge ruled that the grocery store Winn-Dixie had to offer the same accommodations on its website as it did in stores, and in July, a judge in Brooklyn ruled that the website for Blick Art Materials had to be readily accessible to a blind man. The result of these conflicting rulings is a legal gray area ripe for, depending on your viewpoint, either significant civil rights advances or exploitation by lawyers looking to make a quick buck through settlements, said Tom Stebbins, executive director of the Lawsuit Reform Alliance of New York. Absent clarity from the federal government, Mr. Stebbins said, some lawyers have filed identical lawsuits against multiple businesses or universities in the hopes of reaching a settlement with one or more of them. "These are cut-and-paste lawsuits," he said. "You just have these lawyers taking advantage of a good-intentioned law to make money." The lawsuits filed in New York on behalf of Mr. Delacruz are "all similar," his lawyer, Dana Gottlieb, wrote in an email. They state that Mr. Delacruz tried to find information, such as tuition costs, school location and academic calendars, but was unable gain access because the websites were not readable by his screen-reading software. A hyperlink in one complaint, against Hofstra, opens the website of the College of New Rochelle. According to court records, Ms. Gottlieb was ordered to refile one of the complaints because the wrong party was selected as the defendant. Ms. Gottlieb, of the Gottlieb & Associates law firm, declined to comment further or to say anything more about her client, including his age and what he hoped to study. But Jeffrey M. Gottlieb, the founder of the firm, wrote in an email that private lawyers had to step in to promote web accessibility, given the lack of government action. "When 'lawsuit-reform' organizations protest about the nature of these lawsuits, they are only advancing the interests of wealthy corporate interests that fund them," he wrote. "If they were truly reform oriented, they would advocate for more government intervention to protect the rights of those who most need protection." Most of the colleges did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesman for Iona College said that it "takes all matters of discrimination seriously and strives to ensure that everyone is treated fairly and appropriately. The college will continue to ensure everyone has equitable access to its facilities including its website." Some disability rights advocates, acknowledging the charges that some lawyers are just looking to cash in, have distanced themselves from the suits. "We do not condone just filing a blizzard of lawsuits in order to get settlements. That's not solving the underlying problem," said Chris Danielson, public relations director for the National Federation of the Blind. His organization has pushed instead for clearer federal guidelines on web accessibility. Critics have also pointed to the Berkeley case as evidence that the strategy can go awry. After the Department of Justice found the university to be in violation of the disabilities act, Berkeley responded by taking down more than 20,000 publicly accessible videos and audio files, a move administrators had called "unenviable" but unavoidable given the "extremely expensive" cost of compliance. But disability rights lawyers and advocates said the concerns were misplaced. "There will always be lawyers who are eager to find business," Ms. Kanter, the Syracuse professor, said. "But if the university is vulnerable, and if they have violated the law by not providing accessibility, that's what the role of lawyers should be, which is to monitor such complaints." Eve Hill, a former deputy assistant attorney general in the civil rights division of the Department of Justice, said lawyers could not manufacture plaintiffs out of thin air. Ultimately, she said, lawyers represent people who - regardless of their lawyers' motivations - are being barred from accessing public services. "There has to be somebody who is trying to access the website," said Ms. Hill, who is now a disability rights lawyer. "Imagine if you were that person. Imagine if you were trying to apply to school, and every college you went to check out refused to tell you how." From tim at timeldermusic.com Thu Oct 12 16:57:08 2017 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:57:08 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01d3437b$23d730a0$6b8591e0$@timeldermusic.com> Tai, Review Aira's privacy policy and see if it makes sense. You can also ask Aira agents to destroy any recordings after the call has concluded. It is also possible to limit the agent's access so they can only see what is information I -----Original Message----- From: Tai Tomasi [mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org] Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 10:36 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Ethics, Confidentiality, and Liability Considerations of Using Remote Visual Interpreters and In-person Readers Hello, all. I recently subscribed to Aira, a service whereby you can call an agent and receive visual information via a pair of glasses with a camera. I am working over the weekend when no one is in my office and none of my usual readers are available. I would like to access some visual information that is not readily accessible via optical character recognition. I thought about calling an Aira agent but am concerned about potential confidentiality and ethics issues. I certainly could have the agent sign a confidentiality agreement, but the problem is that I will likely get different agents each time I call. Also, such an agreement is no guarantee that the data would remain confidential, and I of course have no control of how data transmitted via the video feed is used or whether it is stored by Aira. Aira stresses that all calls are kept confidential. The documents I would be looking at are exhibits for hearings and would contain some confidential information about clients, including medical records. Has anyone considered this issue? How is it similar to, or different from, working with a reader in person? What unique implications arise? In more general terms, how do members of this list handle confidentiality of client information and readers? Do you ask all readers to sign confidentiality agreements? If this is not your policy, do your clients ever ask you to have your readers sign confidentiality agreements regarding their records when the reader is not a paralegal employed by your firm? Is there any legal precedent for the idea that a reader is acting as a visual interpreter and is thus reading on your behalf? What liability issues might this present in the event that a reader or remote agent misuses confidential information they accessed while serving as your reader? I would be interested in discussing this on or off list. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. 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While my decision to apply is contingent on getting a scholarship that I have applied for, I'd nonetheless like to solicit insights from those who have done this before about the reasonable accommodations that they obtained from Oxford. Please feel free to contact me off-list if you may be able to help. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone From sbg at sbgaal.com Sat Oct 14 15:24:13 2017 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 10:24:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an ipad if already have i-phone? Message-ID: <00cd01d34500$7e137fc0$7a3a7f40$@sbgaal.com> Hello Group, Is there any reason to get an i-pad in practicing law if you already have an I-phone. Are there special apps that only work on the I-pad? I understand for the sighted, it has a bigger screen to enjoy movies etc., but I am wondering what special uses it has that the I-phone doesn't. Does it have more storage or speed? Thanks for any input! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sat Oct 14 16:46:08 2017 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:46:08 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Wish to connect with blind lawyers who have studied at Oxford In-Reply-To: <42B17D64-A159-4D6B-9CF3-566BBF936F45@gmail.com> References: <42B17D64-A159-4D6B-9CF3-566BBF936F45@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Rahul, Oxford has amazing accommodations. I went to an undergrad program there and had no problems. I also went to school with someone at Harvard who was blind, had done multiple degrees at oxford and who was doing a masters at the Kennedy school who I'd be happy to put you in touch with. He thought Harvard's accommodations were awful in comparison to Oxford. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:02 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I hope this message finds you well. I am considering applying to Oxford this year for their BCL programme, which is their equivalent of the LLM, and would therefore like to connect with anyone who is on this list who may have studied at Oxford. > > While my decision to apply is contingent on getting a scholarship that I have applied for, I'd nonetheless like to solicit insights from those who have done this before about the reasonable accommodations that they obtained from Oxford. > Please feel free to contact me off-list if you may be able to help. > Best, > Rahul > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Sat Oct 14 18:23:35 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:23:35 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Happy National Dessert Day! Message-ID: <000901d34519$8d2cd1a0$a78674e0$@labarrelaw.com> My Federation Family! I greet you on National Dessert Day, truly a great American holiday. What would go down better than a yummy treat, how about $2500, $1000, or even $500. That could be yours starting today if you participate in the Amazing Colorado Raffle. Here's how it works. You go to: www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle and purchase your tickets. That's as easy as eating pumpkin pie. Tickets are $10 or $20 for three or multiples thereof. For example, $100 would get you fifteen tickets. Now the winning tickets will be ddrawn at the Annual Banquet of the NFB of Colorado on October 28th and you need not be present to win, although we'd love to have you. We will have a great dessert at our banquet, among other great things. Online sales will end as of 11:59 pm on October 22nd, Rocky Mountain time. In person tickets will be sold up to the time of the drawing. If the online option won't work for you, please call Lisa Bonderson, 303 504-5979, or Lorinda Riddle, 303 778-1130, Ext 236, and we can take orders over the phone and process your credit or debit cards. I thank you in advance for supporting the NFB of Colorado!! These monies are used to support our scholarship and BELL programs. Dessertfully yours, Scott LaBarre, President, NFB Colorado P.S. Does anyone make an awesome banana cream pudding? I think that's my favorite. Please go to: www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle right away! From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Sat Oct 14 19:14:19 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:14:19 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Happy National Dessert Day! Message-ID: <003101d34520$a2f60ae0$e8e220a0$@labarrelaw.com> My Federation Family and particularly my lawyer and law student friends! I greet you on National Dessert Day, truly a great American holiday. What would go down better than a yummy treat, how about $2500, $1000, or even $500. That could be yours starting today if you participate in the Amazing Colorado Raffle. Here's how it works. You go to: www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle and purchase your tickets. That's as easy as eating pumpkin pie. Tickets are $10 or $20 for three or multiples thereof. For example, $100 would get you fifteen tickets. Now the winning tickets will be ddrawn at the Annual Banquet of the NFB of Colorado on October 28th and you need not be present to win, although we'd love to have you. We will have a great dessert at our banquet, among other great things. Online sales will end as of 11:59 pm on October 22nd, Rocky Mountain time. In person tickets will be sold up to the time of the drawing. If the online option won't work for you, please call Lisa Bonderson, 303 504-5979, or Lorinda Riddle, 303 778-1130, Ext 236, and we can take orders over the phone and process your credit or debit cards. I thank you in advance for supporting the NFB of Colorado!! These monies are used to support our scholarship and BELL programs. Dessertfully yours, Scott LaBarre, President, NFB Colorado P.S. Does anyone make an awesome banana cream pudding? I think that's my favorite. Please go to: www.nfbco.org/amazing-colorado-raffle right away! From mrallman116 at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 23:39:11 2017 From: mrallman116 at gmail.com (mrallman116 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:39:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an ipad if already have i-phone? In-Reply-To: <00cd01d34500$7e137fc0$7a3a7f40$@sbgaal.com> References: <00cd01d34500$7e137fc0$7a3a7f40$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: I have both an iPhone and an iPad. I like the fact that the iPad has more memory and I also use it with a Bluetooth keyboard when I want to be able to type faster and more accurately. I often use my iPad for basic work at home, but I do not think the iPad is as good as using a device with a screen reader such as jaws when I am doing the bulk of my legal work. I hope this helps. Melissa Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Shannon via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, > > > > Is there any reason to get an i-pad in practicing law if you already have an > I-phone. Are there special apps that only work on the I-pad? I understand > for the sighted, it has a bigger screen to enjoy movies etc., but I am > wondering what special uses it has that the I-phone doesn't. Does it have > more storage or speed? > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > > > > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > > 1001 Main St., Suite 803 > > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > > Office: (806) 763-3999 > > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or > attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express > permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gmail.com From dbeitz at wiennergould.com Sun Oct 15 19:18:41 2017 From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 19:18:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an iPad if already have iPhone? Message-ID: In my opinion, no. You can use a bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone if you want. I have owned two iPads, and I ended up thinking I wasted my money. There is simply not much you can do on an iPad that you can't do on an iPhone. Spend your money on more memory on an iPhone, plus a great keyboard and a good battery case, like a Mophie. I have gotten very comfortable with the plus size phones; they are about the perfect size, although a bit big for your pocket. But if you get a good battery case, your phone will run forever. The airPods are great as well. All these excessories won't cost you nearly as much as an iPad, but good excessories aren't cheap. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this emailto the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copthe ying,these or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Allman via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:39 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: mrallman116 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an ipad if already have i-phone? I have both an iPhone and an iPad. I like the fact that the iPad has more memory and I also use it with a Bluetooth keyboard when I want to be able to type faster and more accurately. I often use my iPad for basic work at home, but I do not think the iPad is as good as using a device with a screen reader such as jaws when I am doing the bulk of my legal work. I hope this helps. Melissa Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Shannon via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, > > > > Is there any reason to get an i-pad in practicing law if you already > have an I-phone. Are there special apps that only work on the I-pad? > I understand for the sighted, it has a bigger screen to enjoy movies > etc., but I am wondering what special uses it has that the I-phone > doesn't. Does it have more storage or speed? > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > > > > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > > 1001 Main St., Suite 803 > > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > > Office: (806) 763-3999 > > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged > and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended > recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or > forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Oct 16 17:59:45 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 17:59:45 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Movie patron who can't see or hear wins appellate ruling in bid for tactile interpreter, ABA Journal, October 11, 2017 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/movie_patron_who_cant_see_or_hear_wins_appellate_ruling_in_bid_for_tactile/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email Movie patron who can't see or hear wins appellate ruling in bid for tactile interpreter ABA Journal October 11, 2017 By Debra Cassens Weiss A federal appeals court is giving a deaf and blind man a chance to argue he was entitled to a tactile interpreter at a Cinemark theater. The Philadelphia-based 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals gave Paul McGann a chance to show that providing the interpreter does not pose an undue burden for Cinemark under the Americans With Disabilities Act. The Associated Press and PennLive.com have stories; the Oct. 6 decision is here (PDF). McGann reads American Sign Language through touch, and experiences movies by touching the hands of a sign-language interpreter who describes the film. McGann had contacted Cinemark after he missed Gone Girl at his usual theater. A Cinemark paralegal was told two tactile interpreters would be required at a cost of $50 to $65 an hour. The paralegal denied McGann's request. A federal judge had ruled that a tactile interpreter is a special auxiliary aid or service that is not required by the ADA. The 3rd Circuit reversed in its opinion, holding that tactile interpreters are covered. The 3rd Circuit remanded for a determination whether the accommodation would pose an undue burden for Plano, Texas-based Cinemark, the third-largest movie chain in the country. From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Oct 16 18:31:20 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:31:20 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: These 19 states are cracking down on fake service dogs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/19-states-cracking-fake-service-dogs/ These 19 states are cracking down on fake service dogs PBS NewsHour BY Michael Ollove, Stateline October 16, 2017 at 10:29 AM EDT Chris Slavin was in an elevator a couple years ago with Earle, her yellow lab service dog, sitting calmly beside her wheelchair. The elevator doors opened and in walked a woman holding a purse. In the purse was a teacup poodle the color of apricots. The doors closed just as the poodle spotted Earle. That's when the trouble started. In an instant, the poodle leaped from the purse, flung himself at Earle, and clamped his teeth into the bigger dog's snout, leaving Earle bleeding onto the elevator floor. "As soon as this occurred the woman said the poodle was a service dog," said Slavin, who has a severe spinal injury that requires use of the wheelchair. "She then said he wasn't a service dog but an emotional support dog. Finally, she admitted he was a pet she just wanted to bring in the building with her." Incidents like that one in Reading, Massachusetts, not far from where Slavin lives in Danvers, have spurred 19 states to enact laws cracking down on people who try to pass off their pets as service animals. The push has been gathering steam in recent years: Virginia implemented its new law in 2016, and Colorado followed suit this year. Massachusetts is now considering a similar proposal. "Today, any pet owner can go online and buy a vest for a dog to pass it off as a service animal to gain access to restaurants, hotels and places of business," said Republican state Rep. Kimberly Ferguson, who introduced the Massachusetts bill. "Their animals aren't trained and end up misbehaving in these public places, which gives real service dogs a bad name." Service dogs, which are trained to perform tasks for a person with a disability, were first used by people with vision and hearing impairments. They are now also used by those who use wheelchairs or have other impairment in mobility, people who are prone to seizures or need to be alerted to medical conditions, like low blood sugar, and people with autism or mental illness. The American Humane Association, which promotes the welfare and safety of animals, says there are 20,000 service dogs working in the U.S. Supporters of the new laws compare those misbehaving dog owners to people who acquire handicap signs so they can park in spaces intended for disabled people. The laws make it a misdemeanor to represent an untrained dog as a service animal, and usually come with fines of no more than $500 for an incident. But because there is no certification or official national registry of legitimate service dogs, there is no way to verify whether a dog has undergone rigorous training to become a service animal. That makes it hard to enforce the laws, said David Favre, a law professor at Michigan State University College of Law and editor of its Animal Legal and Historical Center website, which follows public policy issues related to animals. He said he's not aware of anyone who has been prosecuted anywhere for violating them. Rather, he said, the laws are largely symbolic, and meant to educate dog owners as well as people who let pets into spaces where they don't belong. "Maybe you can scare some people into being honest." People who pass off their dogs as service animals in order to take them into stores, restaurants, libraries, sporting events and offices are a real problem, he said, for the proprietors of those establishments, their customers and disabled people who genuinely rely on the help of their service dogs. "A service animal is trained to be in public and to be under control and non-intrusive and not bark," Favre said. "They are trained not to be a nuisance in any way. You should hardly even know they are there." Because of Earle's training as a service dog, Slavin said, when the poodle attacked him, "My dog never moved, never retaliated, never barked." He did nothing. That is the way a service dog is trained. They are not going to ever be aggressive. Ever." 'Four on the Floor' Earle performs many functions for Slavin. He picks up items she drops, retrieves keys, opens doors, puts objects like library books on counters that Slavin can't reach, and returns change or credit cards to her after purchases. She credits Earle with "enabling me to truly become part of my community." Service dogs receive up to two years of training, which can cost more than $40,000. Before they are placed, their new owners are often required to live at the training center for a week or two to learn about caring and interacting with their dogs. Many training centers provide the dogs free of charge to disabled clients, defraying their costs through fundraising. The waiting time for a service dog is often two years or longer. But for people who want to pass off their pet as a service dog, it's easy enough to be convincing. Anyone can go online and purchase for about $20 the types of vests that legitimate service dogs usually wear. The vests may help the fake service dogs gain entry, but their behavior, and that of their owners, often gives them away. Trained service dogs don't go off-leash, bark, knock things off shelves, jump on people, play or fight with other dogs, or grab food off tables, trainers say. And owners of real service dogs don't carry them in shopping carts or purses. "The rule is four on the floor," with all four feet on the ground except when a dog is performing a task, said Katelynne Steinke, a paraplegic in Cape Cod, Massachusetts, with her own yellow lab service dog. The problem is that the proprietors of establishments where people bring their dogs have no way of determining whether a dog is a real service animal. The American with Disabilities Act requires all places open to the public, such as businesses, government agencies and entertainment venues, to give access to service dogs and their owners. And it permits them to ask only two questions: whether the dog is required because of a disability and what tasks the dog is trained to perform. It is illegal to request documentation for the dog or to ask the nature of the owner's disability. There's another complication: the growing use of "emotional support dogs," which are intended to provide comfort to those with anxiety or other emotional problems. Some of them may have received special training, although nothing as rigorous as the training for service dogs. (Emotional support dogs are not covered under the ADA and can legally be denied access.) Some service dog owners say many businesses, unable to tell fake service dogs from real ones, allow all of them in. Many owners of service dogs avoid those places for fear of exposing their animals to danger from untrained dogs. Other businesses, they say, simply bar all dogs from the premises, even if it violates the ADA. The National Disability Rights Network, which advocates on behalf of people with disabilities, is sympathetic to those who want to crack down on pet owners who misrepresent their dogs as service animals. But Ken Shiotani, a senior staff attorney with the organization, said the laws should aim to educate, rather than punish, and the penalties for violations should be minimal. "We want to have a positive impact on people to help them realize that what they've done has this very negative effect." Advocates for the laws agree. Cathy Zemaitis, who helped draft the Massachusetts bill and is director of development for National Education for Assistance Dog Services, a Massachusetts group that says it has trained over 1,700 dogs since 1976, said the laws should launch a national effort to teach people not to put dogs in situations they are not trained for - and to educate the public on the need for legitimately trained dogs. The long-term goal, Zemaitis said, is the creation of a national certification program and registry for legitimately trained service dogs. "This is the beginning of a much larger conversation we need to have." From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Oct 17 17:06:54 2017 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 17:06:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an iPad if already have iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are talking about your own use, then I would agree with Dan. However, I have found an iPad invaluable for communicating with my Legal Assistant during proceedings. I found an app called Airchat which allows my assistant and I to send encrypted notes back and forth using Bluetooth. You need not be connected to the Internet via wireless or cellular networks. All you need are Bluetooth-enabled devices capable of downloading the app. I use my iPhone and a Bluetooth keyboard to send her messages. She sends them back to me using my IPad Mini. I receive them using my IPhone and a set of AirPods Bluetooth earbuds. This avoids having to use unencrypted messaging platforms, and we need not share our personal cell numbers or email addresses. This app works for chatting with anyone who has another iOS device, and I believe it can work between any Bluetooth device whether or not it is an apple product. I am so glad I made this discovery, as it makes exchanging notes during hearings very easy. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Dan Beitz Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an iPad if already have iPhone? In my opinion, no. You can use a bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone if you want. I have owned two iPads, and I ended up thinking I wasted my money. There is simply not much you can do on an iPad that you can't do on an iPhone. Spend your money on more memory on an iPhone, plus a great keyboard and a good battery case, like a Mophie. I have gotten very comfortable with the plus size phones; they are about the perfect size, although a bit big for your pocket. But if you get a good battery case, your phone will run forever. The airPods are great as well. All these excessories won't cost you nearly as much as an iPad, but good excessories aren't cheap. Daniel K. Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this emailto the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copthe ying,these or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Allman via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:39 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: mrallman116 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an ipad if already have i-phone? I have both an iPhone and an iPad. I like the fact that the iPad has more memory and I also use it with a Bluetooth keyboard when I want to be able to type faster and more accurately. I often use my iPad for basic work at home, but I do not think the iPad is as good as using a device with a screen reader such as jaws when I am doing the bulk of my legal work. I hope this helps. Melissa Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Shannon via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Group, > > > > Is there any reason to get an i-pad in practicing law if you already > have an I-phone. Are there special apps that only work on the I-pad? > I understand for the sighted, it has a bigger screen to enjoy movies > etc., but I am wondering what special uses it has that the I-phone > doesn't. Does it have more storage or speed? > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > > > > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > > 1001 Main St., Suite 803 > > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > > Office: (806) 763-3999 > > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged > and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended > recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or > forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mrallman116 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 01:40:13 2017 From: mrallman116 at gmail.com (mrallman116 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:40:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an iPad if already have iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205423AE-C7DC-4F16-AF5B-E215023ECEAC@gmail.com> Can you please let me know how we can get access to this type of technology? Is it an app? My other question, though, is whether or not this becomes bulky and cumbersome. I am hearing about three devices and a set of earbuds. I tend to find that a braille display works best in proceedings like that because I want my ears to be fully available for what is going on around me. Everyone has different strategies so I am curious to know what your thoughts are on issue of speech output in this case and how it is or is not awkward. Sorry if I misunderstood your description. If I did please clarify thank you Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > If you are talking about your own use, then I would agree with Dan. However, I have found an iPad invaluable for communicating with my Legal Assistant during proceedings. I found an app called Airchat which allows my assistant and I to send encrypted notes back and forth using Bluetooth. You need not be connected to the Internet via wireless or cellular networks. All you need are Bluetooth-enabled devices capable of downloading the app. I use my iPhone and a Bluetooth keyboard to send her messages. She sends them back to me using my IPad Mini. I receive them using my IPhone and a set of AirPods Bluetooth earbuds. This avoids having to use unencrypted messaging platforms, and we need not share our personal cell numbers or email addresses. This app works for chatting with anyone who has another iOS device, and I believe it can work between any Bluetooth device whether or not it is an apple product. I am so glad I made this discovery, as it makes exchanging notes during hearings very easy. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:19 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Dan Beitz > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an iPad if already have iPhone? > > In my opinion, no. You can use a bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone if you want. I have owned two iPads, and I ended up thinking I wasted my money. There is simply not much you can do on an iPad that you can't do on an iPhone. Spend your money on more memory on an iPhone, plus a great keyboard and a good battery case, like a Mophie. I have gotten very comfortable with the plus size phones; they are about the perfect size, although a bit big for your pocket. But if you get a good battery case, your phone will run forever. The airPods are great as well. All these excessories won't cost you nearly as much as an iPad, but good excessories aren't cheap. > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI 48307 > Phone: (248) 841-9405 > Fax: (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this emailto the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copthe ying,these or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Allman via BlindLaw > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:39 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: mrallman116 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Any reason to get an ipad if already have i-phone? > > I have both an iPhone and an iPad. I like the fact that the iPad has more memory and I also use it with a Bluetooth keyboard when I want to be able to type faster and more accurately. I often use my iPad for basic work at home, but I do not think the iPad is as good as using a device with a screen reader such as jaws when I am doing the bulk of my legal work. I hope this helps. > Melissa > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Shannon via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hello Group, >> >> >> >> Is there any reason to get an i-pad in practicing law if you already >> have an I-phone. Are there special apps that only work on the I-pad? >> I understand for the sighted, it has a bigger screen to enjoy movies >> etc., but I am wondering what special uses it has that the I-phone >> doesn't. Does it have more storage or speed? >> >> >> >> Thanks for any input! >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Shannon Brady Geihsler >> >> >> >> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC >> >> 1001 Main St., Suite 803 >> >> Lubbock, Texas 79401 >> >> Office: (806) 763-3999 >> >> Mobile: (806) 781-9296 >> >> Fax: (806) 749-3752 >> >> E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com >> >> This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged >> and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended >> recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or >> forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you >> are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gmail.com From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 11:50:48 2017 From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:50:48 +0200 Subject: [blindlaw] Regarding employment related matters for people from other countries Message-ID: I am not a lawyer by trade and live in Macedonia, but was wondering if there is any way that anyone would know off that would provide opportunities for non US residents to get a job in the US? For many countries, visa is hard to get to the US unless we have a strong reason for it and in most times, working would require work permit and a green card which many countries do not give and that you would have to get by staying in the US for a longer period of time. I still hear of people somehow being lucky and having found a way, but haven't seemed to be able to understand what usually helps them. Hope someone would have some advice for me. From awebb2168 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:09:46 2017 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:09:46 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Regarding employment related matters for people from other countries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you elaborate as to what sort of work you have in mind doing in the US? Are you looking for work in a particular profession, or are you prepared to do most any kind of work for the sake of having experience living and working in the US? There are visas available (I don't recall which category) that allow people to come to the US temporarily to work in service industry jobs (things like working as entry level staff in hotels, restaurants, the hospitality industry, etc.). Definitely not glamorous and probably not great pay by US standards, but I think these positions are often attractive to university students from other countries looking to earn a bit of money and experience life and work in the US, usually for a summer or just a few months. Higher-level professional jobs normally require sponsorship of a US corporation, with a showing that the foreign worker has unique qualifications that the employer would have a hard time filling by hiring American workers. There are only a limited number of these visas available each year, and the number may soon be reduced drastically depending on whether our government adopts new immigration laws that some politicians have been supporting. Hoep that is some helpful general information. On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw wrote: > I am not a lawyer by trade and live in Macedonia, but was wondering > if there is any way that anyone would know off that would provide > opportunities for non US residents to get a job in the US? For many > countries, visa is hard to get to the US unless we have a strong > reason for it and in most times, working would require work permit and > a green card which many countries do not give and that you would have > to get by staying in the US for a longer period of time. I still hear > of people somehow being lucky and having found a way, but haven't > seemed to be able to understand what usually helps them. Hope someone > would have some advice for me. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com > From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:17:16 2017 From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:17:16 +0200 Subject: [blindlaw] Regarding employment related matters for people from other countries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. I am a 38-year old teacher of English as a second language, but would take any job. I have contacted many blindness and other places in the US and they all tell me that they don't have such programs to help the blind from elsewhere. On 10/18/17, Andrew Webb via BlindLaw wrote: > Can you elaborate as to what sort of work you have in mind doing in > the US? Are you looking for work in a particular profession, or are > you prepared to do most any kind of work for the sake of having > experience living and working in the US? There are visas available (I > don't recall which category) that allow people to come to the US > temporarily to work in service industry jobs (things like working as > entry level staff in hotels, restaurants, the hospitality industry, > etc.). Definitely not glamorous and probably not great pay by US > standards, but I think these positions are often attractive to > university students from other countries looking to earn a bit of > money and experience life and work in the US, usually for a summer or > just a few months. Higher-level professional jobs normally require > sponsorship of a US corporation, with a showing that the foreign > worker has unique qualifications that the employer would have a hard > time filling by hiring American workers. There are only a limited > number of these visas available each year, and the number may soon be > reduced drastically depending on whether our government adopts new > immigration laws that some politicians have been supporting. Hoep that > is some helpful general information. > > On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw wrote: >> I am not a lawyer by trade and live in Macedonia, but was wondering >> if there is any way that anyone would know off that would provide >> opportunities for non US residents to get a job in the US? For many >> countries, visa is hard to get to the US unless we have a strong >> reason for it and in most times, working would require work permit and >> a green card which many countries do not give and that you would have >> to get by staying in the US for a longer period of time. I still hear >> of people somehow being lucky and having found a way, but haven't >> seemed to be able to understand what usually helps them. Hope someone >> would have some advice for me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com > From awebb2168 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:50:00 2017 From: awebb2168 at gmail.com (Andrew Webb) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:50:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Regarding employment related matters for people from other countries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It all depends on whether your higher priority is to make money or to just experience life in the US. There is an option to live here for a time on a student visa, which would require you to enroll in a program in a US college or university, and that of course will cost you additional money. at the end of the university program there are options for obtaining paid work related to the academic program you've just completed, however the hours and duration of the work are limited, and you are unlikely to make up the money you will have already spent on the school. If you really want to get informed about your options, you should spend time studying the website of the US Department of State, and specifically you should look at the description of the different visas available and how you can obtain one. Good luck. On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw wrote: > Thanks. I am a 38-year old teacher of English as a second language, > but would take any job. I have contacted many blindness and other > places in the US and they all tell me that they don't have such > programs to help the blind from elsewhere. > > On 10/18/17, Andrew Webb via BlindLaw wrote: >> Can you elaborate as to what sort of work you have in mind doing in >> the US? Are you looking for work in a particular profession, or are >> you prepared to do most any kind of work for the sake of having >> experience living and working in the US? There are visas available (I >> don't recall which category) that allow people to come to the US >> temporarily to work in service industry jobs (things like working as >> entry level staff in hotels, restaurants, the hospitality industry, >> etc.). Definitely not glamorous and probably not great pay by US >> standards, but I think these positions are often attractive to >> university students from other countries looking to earn a bit of >> money and experience life and work in the US, usually for a summer or >> just a few months. Higher-level professional jobs normally require >> sponsorship of a US corporation, with a showing that the foreign >> worker has unique qualifications that the employer would have a hard >> time filling by hiring American workers. There are only a limited >> number of these visas available each year, and the number may soon be >> reduced drastically depending on whether our government adopts new >> immigration laws that some politicians have been supporting. Hoep that >> is some helpful general information. >> >> On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw >> wrote: >>> I am not a lawyer by trade and live in Macedonia, but was wondering >>> if there is any way that anyone would know off that would provide >>> opportunities for non US residents to get a job in the US? For many >>> countries, visa is hard to get to the US unless we have a strong >>> reason for it and in most times, working would require work permit and >>> a green card which many countries do not give and that you would have >>> to get by staying in the US for a longer period of time. I still hear >>> of people somehow being lucky and having found a way, but haven't >>> seemed to be able to understand what usually helps them. Hope someone >>> would have some advice for me. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com > From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 17:00:31 2017 From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:00:31 +0200 Subject: [blindlaw] Regarding employment related matters for people from other countries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I already had a look, I earn 400 dollars a month and wouldn't be able to pay for such university programs, nowadays scholarships don't exist for international students and even if i leave my country for a few months accept in the summer, this place will fire me if i come back because people in macedonia can't take unpaid leave, so it is pretty tuff. On 10/18/17, Andrew Webb via BlindLaw wrote: > It all depends on whether your higher priority is to make money or to > just experience life in the US. There is an option to live here for a > time on a student visa, which would require you to enroll in a program > in a US college or university, and that of course will cost you > additional money. at the end of the university program there are > options for obtaining paid work related to the academic program you've > just completed, however the hours and duration of the work are > limited, and you are unlikely to make up the money you will have > already spent on the school. If you really want to get informed about > your options, you should spend time studying the website of the US > Department of State, and specifically you should look at the > description of the different visas available and how you can obtain > one. Good luck. > > On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw wrote: >> Thanks. I am a 38-year old teacher of English as a second language, >> but would take any job. I have contacted many blindness and other >> places in the US and they all tell me that they don't have such >> programs to help the blind from elsewhere. >> >> On 10/18/17, Andrew Webb via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Can you elaborate as to what sort of work you have in mind doing in >>> the US? Are you looking for work in a particular profession, or are >>> you prepared to do most any kind of work for the sake of having >>> experience living and working in the US? There are visas available (I >>> don't recall which category) that allow people to come to the US >>> temporarily to work in service industry jobs (things like working as >>> entry level staff in hotels, restaurants, the hospitality industry, >>> etc.). Definitely not glamorous and probably not great pay by US >>> standards, but I think these positions are often attractive to >>> university students from other countries looking to earn a bit of >>> money and experience life and work in the US, usually for a summer or >>> just a few months. Higher-level professional jobs normally require >>> sponsorship of a US corporation, with a showing that the foreign >>> worker has unique qualifications that the employer would have a hard >>> time filling by hiring American workers. There are only a limited >>> number of these visas available each year, and the number may soon be >>> reduced drastically depending on whether our government adopts new >>> immigration laws that some politicians have been supporting. Hoep that >>> is some helpful general information. >>> >>> On 10/18/17, adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>>> I am not a lawyer by trade and live in Macedonia, but was wondering >>>> if there is any way that anyone would know off that would provide >>>> opportunities for non US residents to get a job in the US? For many >>>> countries, visa is hard to get to the US unless we have a strong >>>> reason for it and in most times, working would require work permit and >>>> a green card which many countries do not give and that you would have >>>> to get by staying in the US for a longer period of time. I still hear >>>> of people somehow being lucky and having found a way, but haven't >>>> seemed to be able to understand what usually helps them. Hope someone >>>> would have some advice for me. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awebb2168%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com > From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 14:35:12 2017 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:05:12 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Wish to connect with blind lawyers who have studied at Oxford In-Reply-To: References: <42B17D64-A159-4D6B-9CF3-566BBF936F45@gmail.com> Message-ID: <81E4129F-EAD4-4843-830F-580B40B38656@gmail.com> Hi Derek, Thanks for your inputs. While I will definitely contact you to solicit more concrete information and to connect with your friend if I get the scholarship, I'd be grateful if you could describe in broad terms what kinds of reasonable accommodations they offered you. I am looking at this from the vantage point of staying alone in Oxford as well as pursuing the academic coursework. I think the people administering this scholarships may be skeptical about the possibility of a blind person studying alone at Oxford. So your insights will help me disabuse them of that misapprehension. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Derek Manners wrote: > > Hi Rahul, Oxford has amazing accommodations. I went to an undergrad program there and had no problems. I also went to school with someone at Harvard who was blind, had done multiple degrees at oxford and who was doing a masters at the Kennedy school who I'd be happy to put you in touch with. He thought Harvard's accommodations were awful in comparison to Oxford. > > Best regards > Derek > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:02 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I hope this message finds you well. I am considering applying to Oxford this year for their BCL programme, which is their equivalent of the LLM, and would therefore like to connect with anyone who is on this list who may have studied at Oxford. >> >> While my decision to apply is contingent on getting a scholarship that I have applied for, I'd nonetheless like to solicit insights from those who have done this before about the reasonable accommodations that they obtained from Oxford. >> Please feel free to contact me off-list if you may be able to help. >> Best, >> Rahul >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Oct 23 15:31:40 2017 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:31:40 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] NWIRP Staff Attorney Opening -- Wenatchee, WA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Vanessa Gutierrez [mailto:vanessag at nwirp.org] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 3:26 PM To: ATJ Community Subject: [atj-community] NWIRP Staff Attorney Opening Hello Everyone, The Northwest Immigrant Rights Project is hiring a Staff Attorney for our Wenatchee office. 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Some still get jobs and are successful, but in order to keep solving this problem together, I think we need to unite and keep supporting the rest who need support. The more of us there are, the better it is and if we also get the lawyers, the parents, teachers and others to keep supporting us in whatever way possible, I think that this would help us go forward in many ways. Not many parents of blind children are rich to have business established, but if you happen to have some, know of others who do or could get the word across to as many people as possible about these problems, hope you can really do so and even maybe join the NFB jobs list and contribute there. If you also wish to join my facebook group, you can look it up as: Jobs for the blind From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 23 18:34:14 2017 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:34:14 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009501d34c2d$87c350c0$9749f240$@sbcglobal.net> Hello Adrijana: I cannot imagine why your post would make anyone mad. I did want to point out the following. The Americans With Disabilities Act became effective July 26, 1990. In 2010, a study was conducted to compare the status of employment of the disabled prior to the Act to the employment status of the disabled after 20 years of the Act. The study found that the overall, meaningful employment of the disabled had not improved one little bit through those 20 years. So, the proof is in the pudding. I have been personally discriminated against numerous times over 30 years of job seeking as a blind attorney. What I discovered through the process is that the ADA does not prevent discrimination. Rather, it is simply another "filter" through which prospective employers must strain us to deny us employment. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 12:53 PM To: blindlaw-request Cc: adrijana prokopenko Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters Don't mean to make anyone feel bad by this post, but I have a feeling that the unemployment of the blind all over the world is extremely high, even among blind intelectuals. I guess the reasons for this vary, but I often hear stories of how blind people get discriminated and are denied jobs just because they are blind, not to mention that may get low paid jobs or jobs way away from their homes that they often refuse, because of lack of support regarding transportation. Some still get jobs and are successful, but in order to keep solving this problem together, I think we need to unite and keep supporting the rest who need support. The more of us there are, the better it is and if we also get the lawyers, the parents, teachers and others to keep supporting us in whatever way possible, I think that this would help us go forward in many ways. Not many parents of blind children are rich to have business established, but if you happen to have some, know of others who do or could get the word across to as many people as possible about these problems, hope you can really do so and even maybe join the NFB jobs list and contribute there. If you also wish to join my facebook group, you can look it up as: Jobs for the blind _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 18:41:50 2017 From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:41:50 +0200 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters In-Reply-To: <009501d34c2d$87c350c0$9749f240$@sbcglobal.net> References: <009501d34c2d$87c350c0$9749f240$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Thanks. I put this post on the blind kids list too, so I was trying to be sensitive to how I word things not to scare parents too much. (Smile). I really think if we all act a community it will help us more than anything, sometimes laws help, educating helps too, but if we are not united, we are in big trouble and from what I see, blind people face lots of trouble after high school because of transportation and other issues, which makes it way harder to get a job. On 10/23/17, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello Adrijana: > > I cannot imagine why your post would make anyone mad. I did want to point > out the following. The Americans With Disabilities Act became effective > July > 26, 1990. In 2010, a study was conducted to compare the status of > employment > of the disabled prior to the Act to the employment status of the disabled > after 20 years of the Act. The study found that the overall, meaningful > employment of the disabled had not improved one little bit through those 20 > years. So, the proof is in the pudding. > > I have been personally discriminated against numerous times over 30 years > of > job seeking as a blind attorney. What I discovered through the process is > that the ADA does not prevent discrimination. Rather, it is simply another > "filter" through which prospective employers must strain us to deny us > employment. > > Daniel McBride > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana > prokopenko via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 12:53 PM > To: blindlaw-request > Cc: adrijana prokopenko > Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters > > Don't mean to make anyone feel bad by this post, but I have a feeling that > the unemployment of the blind all over the world is extremely high, even > among blind intelectuals. I guess the reasons for this vary, but I often > hear stories of how blind people get discriminated and are denied jobs just > because they are blind, not to mention that may get low paid jobs or jobs > way away from their homes that they often refuse, because of lack of > support > regarding transportation. > Some still get jobs and are successful, but in order to keep solving this > problem together, I think we need to unite and keep supporting the rest who > need support. The more of us there are, the better it is and if we also get > the lawyers, the parents, teachers and others to keep supporting us in > whatever way possible, I think that this would help us go forward in many > ways. Not many parents of blind children are rich to have business > established, but if you happen to have some, know of others who do or could > get the word across to as many people as possible about these problems, > hope > you can really do so and even maybe join the NFB jobs list and contribute > there. If you also wish to join my facebook group, you can look it up as: > Jobs for the blind > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com > From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Oct 24 00:00:57 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:00:57 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [DRBA] FW: Disability Law Forum - Find Out the Recent Trends, Evolving & Emerging Issues & More on Nov. 2nd In-Reply-To: References: <0.0.1.102.1D348FE9D032B53.DB1B@mail26.magnet101.com> Message-ID: <01dd01d34c5b$2bbc4510$8334cf30$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: Disability Rights Bar Association [mailto:DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Rebecca Rodgers Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 5:18 PM To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [DRBA] FW: Disability Law Forum - Find Out the Recent Trends, Evolving & Emerging Issues & More on Nov. 2nd Dear all, The New York City Bar Association is hosting its Disability Law Forum on Thursday, November 2 from 9:00 am-12:30 pm. Panels will focus on access to justice for individuals with disabilities, recent legal developments, and the experiences of attorneys with disabilities. 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From wmodnl at hotmail.com Tue Oct 24 16:11:30 2017 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:11:30 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters In-Reply-To: <009501d34c2d$87c350c0$9749f240$@sbcglobal.net> References: , <009501d34c2d$87c350c0$9749f240$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: And, lets not forget that, many companies now enforce policies requiring recent hires to wave rights to litigate or file any discrimination of any kind. This inherently almost if not always, opens the floodgates for wide-spread disability discrimination. This is even apparent when they decide to provide RA on there own terms by stalling the RA indefinitely. Have a good day. Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2017, at 14:35, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw > wrote: Hello Adrijana: I cannot imagine why your post would make anyone mad. I did want to point out the following. The Americans With Disabilities Act became effective July 26, 1990. In 2010, a study was conducted to compare the status of employment of the disabled prior to the Act to the employment status of the disabled after 20 years of the Act. The study found that the overall, meaningful employment of the disabled had not improved one little bit through those 20 years. So, the proof is in the pudding. I have been personally discriminated against numerous times over 30 years of job seeking as a blind attorney. What I discovered through the process is that the ADA does not prevent discrimination. Rather, it is simply another "filter" through which prospective employers must strain us to deny us employment. Daniel McBride Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana prokopenko via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 12:53 PM To: blindlaw-request Cc: adrijana prokopenko Subject: [blindlaw] Employment matters Don't mean to make anyone feel bad by this post, but I have a feeling that the unemployment of the blind all over the world is extremely high, even among blind intelectuals. I guess the reasons for this vary, but I often hear stories of how blind people get discriminated and are denied jobs just because they are blind, not to mention that may get low paid jobs or jobs way away from their homes that they often refuse, because of lack of support regarding transportation. Some still get jobs and are successful, but in order to keep solving this problem together, I think we need to unite and keep supporting the rest who need support. The more of us there are, the better it is and if we also get the lawyers, the parents, teachers and others to keep supporting us in whatever way possible, I think that this would help us go forward in many ways. Not many parents of blind children are rich to have business established, but if you happen to have some, know of others who do or could get the word across to as many people as possible about these problems, hope you can really do so and even maybe join the NFB jobs list and contribute there. If you also wish to join my facebook group, you can look it up as: Jobs for the blind _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Oct 26 13:41:07 2017 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:41:07 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] 63rd Annual NFB Colorado Convention Message-ID: <00a201d34e60$13ed1d90$3bc758b0$@labarrelaw.com> Greetings everyone, I invite you to participate in the 63rd Annual Convention of the National Federation of the Blind of Colorado occurring this weekend. We will stream general sessions and the Banquet. The first session starts tomorrow at 11:00 am Mountain time. The link for our streaming is: http://cent6.directhostingcenter.com:2199/tunein/eomuiimi.pls I have pasted below our agenda. Additionally, if you still want a crack at Amazing Colorado Raffle tickets with prizes of $2500, $1000, and $500, online sales are closed but we can take phone orders. Send me an email at slabarre at labarrelaw.com or call me on my cell 303 520-3584, or text me at that same number. I will make sure someone calls you and has the equipment to process your card. We draw those tickets Saturday evening about 8:00 pm Mountain time and you need not be present to win. Cheers, Scott AGENDA National Federation of the Blind of Colorado 63rd Annual State Convention October 26 - October 29, 2017 Fort Collins Hilton 425 West Prospect Road Fort Collins, CO 80526 Colorado State Ballroom Salons II & III LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT! Scott C. LaBarre, President 2233 W. Shepperd Avenue Littleton, CO 80120 303-778-1130 NFB PLEDGE I pledge to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the Blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind; to support the policies and programs of the Federation and to abide by its constitution. NFB MESSAGE The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and their dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. TRIBUTE TO OUR SPONSORS We extend our sincerest gratitude to our Title Sponsor; Colorado Center for the Blind. Since 1988, the CCB has been changing what it means to be blind one life at a time. The Center has provided world class blindness training to students from all over the world. Contact Julie Deden, Executive Director, jdeden at cocenter.org, 303-778-1130. Also visit www.cocenter.org for more information. WE ALSO THANK OUR TITANIUM, GOLD AND SILVER SPONSORS: Vanda Pharmaceuticals, Inc., Titanium Sponsor Audio Information Network of Colorado, Gold Sponsor Charter Communications, Gold Sponsor LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., Gold Sponsor WE Fit Wellness, Gold Sponsor Colorado Civil Rights Education and Enforcement Center, Silver Sponsor GENERAL CONFERENCE INFORMATION REGISTRATION: Colorado State Ballroom Foyer Salons II & III Friday 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Saturday 8:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Registration Fee: $25.00 Friday Luncheon: $30.00 Saturday Lunch: $30.00 Saturday Banquet: $45.00 CHILDCARE INFORMATION: Please contact childcare coordinator, Rebekah Felix, 719-306-5151 to make arrangements. Childcare will be held in Hospitality Suite #232. Friday: Childcare will be open from 8:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Parents must provide meals for their children. Saturday: Childcare will be open from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Parents must provide lunch for their children. Childcare will re-open at 6:30 p.m. and close at 10:00 p.m. Sunday: Childcare will be open from 8:45 a.m. to Noon. DOG RELIEF AREA INFORMATION: >From the last automatic door on the West side entrance to the hotel go 23 feet (straight ahead) and on the left/South and the right/North are two mulch areas for dog relief. On the left on the rock pillar are "poopy pouches" on a dispenser attached about 5 feet up on the West side. On the left and right are also two outdoor trash receptacles. The one with a 3 foot hole is for recyclables and the one with the 8 inch hole is for trash/waste. The mulch to the right extends to the wall on the outside pool deck and on the left the mulch extends out to the 10 foot round gazebo. DOOR PRIZES: Julie Deden serves as our Door Prize Chairwoman. Door Prizes will be drawn in general Convention session and you must be present to win. Please bring your prizes to Julie prior to the beginning of general sessions. RECYCLING LANYARDS AND NAME BADGE HOLDERS If you do not care to keep your Convention lanyard and name badge holder, do please drop them off on the registration table at the ballroom entry as Convention winds down. We will be able to use them for future Conventions. EXHIBITS: Exhibits will be open in the Hilton Atrium throughout the entire Convention at the discretion of the individual exhibitor and primarily when there aren't competing Convention activities. The times listed below are definitely scheduled and it is likely that exhibits will also be open during breakout sessions, especially on Friday. Friday 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. Saturday 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. Please stop to visit the following exhibitors and sponsors: AIRA Tech, Exhibitor AKB Visions for NanoPac, Inc., Exhibitor Ambron Products, Exhibitor Audio Information Network of Colorado, Gold Sponsor BAUM USA, Exhibitor Blind Tech Training, Exhibitor Charter Communications, Gold Sponsor Colorado Business Enterprise Program, Exhibitor Colorado Civil Rights Education and Enforcement Center, Silver Sponsor Guide Dogs for the Blind, Exhibitor Guiding Eyes for the Blind, Exhibitor HumanWare, Exhibitor LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., Gold Sponsor MagniSight, Inc., Exhibitor No Barriers: Leading the Way, Exhibitor University of Maine, Exhibitor US Association of Blind Athletes, Exhibitor Vanda Pharmaceuticals, Inc., Titanium Sponsor WE Fit Wellness, Gold Sponsor Special thanks to Learning Ally for their support of this year's convention. Note: This year we will again be conducting a door prize drawing for all those who can prove that they have visited at least twelve exhibitors. You will be given a sheet to which exhibitors will affix a sticker. When your sheet has twelve stickers return it to Lorinda Riddle and it will be placed in a drawing for a nice prize. THURSDAY AFTERNOON, OCTOBER 26, 2017 1:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. FIND YOUR TALENT: PATHWAY TO POSSIBILITIES Salons I & V 1:30 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. Welcome, review schedule and overview of the path that led to this seminar Master of Ceremony team: Kevan Worley and Julia Zanon 2:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. Career Pathways, Sector Partnerships, Talent Found, Competencies assessment and what employers need Presenters Jeff Sidders and Renise Walker Built in time for Q and A 3:00 p.m. BREAK 3:15 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. TWO TRACKS Track I: EXPANDING YOUR TALENT POOL (for employers, WFC staff, educators, job placement vendors) The theme of this track is Blindness Awareness Presenters Julie Deden and Laverne Dell Track II: MAKING THE MOST OF MY TALENT (for job seekers) Special guests Ryan Mehaffey and Ethan Hollinger from Blind Institute of Technology The theme is resources, strategies, brainstorming careers Presenters Jeff Sidders and Monique Melton THURSDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 26, 2017 5:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. NETWORKING PATHWAYS NETWORKING RECEPTION Salon II Enjoy hors d'oeuvres and a cash bar while networking with your Federation colleagues and those participating in the employment seminar. 7:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. NFBCO MOVIE NIGHT Salons I & V We will screen the new hour long documentary, "Do You Dream in Color?" You are invited to share the story of four blind teenagers as they struggle to navigate the low expectations they confront in school and society. Connor wants to be a sponsored skateboarder. Sarah wants to travel the world. Nick dreams of being a rock star. Carina wants to be the first member of her family to graduate high school. For their work on this project, filmmakers Sarah Ivy and Abigail Fuller received a $15,000 Jacob Bolotin award at the 2017 National Federation of the Blind Convention for outstanding contributions toward achieving the full integration of the blind into society on the basis of equality. We will hold an informative discussion after the movie has concluded. Popcorn and a cash bar will be available at this picture show. FRIDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 27, 2017 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. REGISTRATION Colorado State Ballroom Foyer Salons II & III Pick up your pre-registration packets and register for door prize drawings. If you didn't register in advance, Convention Registration is $25.00, Friday Luncheon $30.00, Saturday Luncheon $30.00, and Banquet $45.00. 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. EXHIBITORS AND SPONSORS SHOWCASE Hilton Atrium Peruse this year's selection of Convention Sponsors and Exhibitors and find out what is new in technology, products, and services. In particular, we want to salute our Title Sponsor, Colorado Center for the Blind. 8:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE Salon I Brent Batron and Dan Burke, Co-chairmen 8:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. NFB OF COLORADO KID CORRAL Hospitality Suite #232 Bekah Felix, Corral Leader This is our NFB of Colorado Childcare and it's not just babysitting. Bekah has planned a number of activities to keep the kiddos busy. Although there is no charge for Corral, we ask that you register your children for the Convention. Donations to NFBCO are welcome to help defray the expenses. Kids in childcare will be eligible to receive door prizes through their parents if their names are called. Also, parents are responsible for providing the children with meals, except for the banquet when pizza will be provided to the kiddos. Snacks will be available throughout. LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT SESSION I Colorado State Ballroom Salons II & III 11:00 a.m. WELCOME, LOGISTICS, AND OPENING CEREMONIES Scott LaBarre, President, NFB Colorado, Centennial, Colorado; Cerridwyn Nordstrom, President, Fort Collins Chapter, NFB Colorado, Fort Collins, Colorado; Cathy Jackson, Member, NFB Board of Directors, President, NFB Kentucky, Louisville, Kentucky; Alexander LaBarre and Emily LaBarre, Centennial, Colorado; Michelle (Showe) Trela, Treasurer, NFB Denver, Centennial, Colorado 11:15 a.m. SERVING THE BLIND AND LOW VISION IN NORTHERN COLORADO Denny Moyer, CEO/President, Ensight Skills Center Inc. for Visual Rehabilitation and Curtis Strong Center for the Visually Impaired, Fort Collins, Colorado 11:30 a.m. REACHING NEW HEIGHTS AND ACHIEVING TRUE SUCCESS AT THE BLINDNESS AND LOW VISION UNIT Steve Anton, Director, Colorado Division of Vocational Rehabilitation, Denver, Colorado; Julia Zanon, Manager, Blindness and Low Vision Unit, Denver, Colorado 12:00 p.m. to 12:30 p.m. LUNCHEON: Commenced, Served, and Consumed Jessica Beecham, Mistress of Ceremonies, Secretary, NFB Colorado, Colorado Springs, Colorado 12:30 p.m. PRESENTING THE 2017 NFBCO SCHOLARSHIP CLASS Jessica Beecham, Chair, NFBCO Scholarship Committee, Colorado Springs, Colorado Pipi Adams Englewood, Colorado Nutrition Therapy Institute, Denver Personal Chef with an emphasis on Holistic Nutrition Dora Lopez Greeley, Colorado. University of Northern Colorado, Greeley Rehabilitation Counseling Tabea Meyer Littleton, Colorado University of Denver Masters in Social Work Ashley Neybert Greeley, Colorado University of Northern Colorado, Greeley Masters of Chemistry Maureen Nietfeld Littleton, Colorado Metropolitan State University of Denver Human Nutrition and Dietetics 12:40 p.m. WHAT'S UP AT THE COLORADO TALKING BOOK LIBRARY Debbi MacLeod, Director, Colorado Talking Book Library, Denver, Colorado 12:55 p.m. AIN'T IT GREAT? A Report from Audio Information of Colorado David Dawson, Executive Director, AINC, Boulder, Colorado 1:10 p.m. LEADING DISABILITY RIGHTS ATTORNEY AND EMERGING POLITICAL FORCE Carrie Ann Lucas, Executive Director and Founder, Disabled Parents Rights, Candidate, Windsor Town Board, Windsor, Colorado 1:25 p.m. COLORADO ASSOCIATION FOR EDUCATION AND REHABILITATION OF THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED: What's the Latest Brent Batron, President, CAER, Centennial, Colorado 1:35 p.m. HOW WE ARE CHANGING ACADEMIC LEARNING FOR THE BLIND AND LIVING THE LIVES WE WANT Darick R. Williamson NOMC, NCRTB Instructor Louisiana Tech University/Louisiana Center for the Blind 1:45 p.m. ADJOURN FRIDAY AFTERNOON, OCTOBER 27, 2017 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. TACTILE GRAPHICS SEMINAR 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. - Session 1 Salon I Julie Deden, Ann Cunningham and others This seminar is about tactile literacy, the idea that through the sense of touch blind children and adults can experience art, maps, graphs and other objects that can open up the world around them. In this hands-on seminar we will explore ways to develop tactile literacy and integrate it into the classroom and the world beyond. TACTILE GRAPHICS SEMINAR 3:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. - Session 2 Salon I ACCESSING SCIENCE'S FULL INTEGRATION FOR BLIND STUDENTS Ashley Neybert, Graduate student in Chemistry University of Northern Colorado and Daniel Burke, College Preparation Instructor, Colorado Center for the Blind Participants will learn about technology and alternative techniques that blind scientists use in a number of scientific fields. We will have hands on demonstrations. 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. 2017 NFBCO TECHNOLOGY SEMINAR Salon V Chip Johnson, Technology Instructor, CCB Join us for the technology seminar and learn about what's new in iOS 11. We'll also discuss apps you can use to read printed material and identify products with your smart phone. Finally, we'll give participants an opportunity to ask technology-related questions and discuss new apps and the latest assistive technology. 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. SENIOR DIVISION ANNUAL MEETING: Live the Life You Want As a Senior Rams Room Diane McGeorge, President NFBCO Senior Division We have a lot planned for our Friday meeting. We will be discussing Senior living options in the Fort Collins area as well as throughout the state, where you can obtain mobility training from a certified instructor in the use of a white cane and the use of a guide dog. We will also discuss the importance of good brain health and understanding how the brain works as we age. The old saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" is absolutely not true. Our speakers are dynamic well informed professionals. Bring your ideas to share with seniors throughout our state. We want to see you there. Elections will be held. Dues are $5. 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. BLIND PARENTS DIVISION Aggie Room, 2nd Floor Nate Trela, President, Englewood, Colorado Nate Trela, Englewood, Colorado; Cathy Jackson, Louisville, Kentucky; Dan Burke, Littleton, Colorado; Nathan Hecker, Grand Junction, Colorado Come in to talk about the rights of blind parents, how the NFB is protecting them, being an active grandparent, raising school-aged kids and the adjustment to parenting after becoming blind. Join today and vote in our election. 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. DROP-IN ART ROOM Research Room, 2nd Floor Free for All! Come and get creative. Play with clay or have fun making a tactile drawing, cut, paste and color! Be sure to check out the American Action Fund's wonderful new Tactile Art Kit. 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. GUIDE DOG LOUNGE Vet Medicine Room, 2nd Floor Considering a guide dog? Want to go for a test drive? Drop by the Guide Dog Lounge! Bring your questions and mingle with experienced users as well as staff from various training programs. Nail trimming also available for $1 donation to COAGDU. 3:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. COLORADO PARENTS OF BLIND CHILDREN Aggie Room, 2nd Floor NETWORKING INCREASES YOUR CHILD'S NET WORTH Parents will have the chance to share ideas and experiences with one another. We will also have a panel of blind adults who will share the experiences that shaped them into successful blind adults. We want to assist you in understanding the importance of setting high expectations for your child, both in the classroom and at home. Help your child achieve age appropriate goals as they prepare for their future, no matter what their age. FRIDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 27, 2017 7:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. NOMINATING COMMITTEE Natural Resources Room, 2nd Floor Julie Deden, Chairperson (Note: This is the only closed meeting of the Convention. Only appointed representatives from chapters and divisions are permitted to be in attendance.) 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. FRIDAY FUN: GAMES AND ADVENTURES! Salons II and III Get ready for Friday night fun with our chapters and divisions. Whether you are looking for an exciting adventure or a fun evening socializing with friends, there is something for everyone. Hang on for a wild ride on the mechanical bull, compete with friends on the bungee run, knock down pins in the human bowling, and enjoy board games. Don't forget to place your bet for the annual NFBCO Sports and Rec horse race! A cash bar will be available throughout the evening. SATURDAY MORNING OCTOBER 28, 2017 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. REGISTRATION Colorado State Ballroom Foyer Salons II & III 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. EXHIBITORS AND SPONSORS EXCLUSIVE SHOWCASE Hilton Atrium LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT SESSION II Colorado State Ballroom Salons II & III 9:00 a.m. GOOD MORNING AND THE DAY'S LOGISTICS Scott LaBarre, President, NFB Colorado, Centennial, Colorado 9:05 a.m. LIVING THE LIVES WE WANT THROUGHOUT AMERICA AND THE WORLD: A National Report Cathy Jackson, Member, NFB Board of Directors, President, NFB Kentucky, Louisville, Kentucky 9:35 a.m. MY FIFTY-TWO YEARS IN THE FEDERATION: Reflections on an Amazing Journey James Gashel, Secretary, NFB Board of Directors, Avon, Colorado 10:00 a.m. TRANSFORMING OUR DREAMS INTO REALITY HERE IN COLORADO: A Presidential Report Scott LaBarre, President, NFB Colorado, Centennial, Colorado 10:30 a.m. LIVING THE LIFE I WANT AND REALIZING MY FULL POTENTIAL WHILE CONQUERING SOME OF THE WORLD'S MOST DIFFICULT CHALLENGE ACTIVITIES Jessica Beecham, Secretary, NFB Colorado, Program Director, WE Fit Wellness, Colorado Springs, Colorado 10:55 a.m. BREAK 11:10 a.m. RINGING THE BELL CLEARLY AND LOUDLY IN COLORADO Michelle Chacon, Director, NFB Colorado BELL Academies, Las Cruces, New Mexico 11:30 a.m. GETTING OLDER AND GOING BLIND DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO STOP LIVING THE LIVES WE WANT: A Report from Our Senior Program Diane McGeorge, President, NFB Colorado, Senior Division, Littleton Colorado; Duncan Larsen, Director of Senior Programs, Colorado Center for the Blind, Littleton, Colorado 12:00 p.m. A NEW TOOL IN THE TOOL BOX: AIRA, WHAT IS IT AND HOW DOES IT WORK? Kevan Worley, Board Member, NFB Colorado, CEO, Worley Enterprises, Colorado Springs, Colorado 12:10 p.m. TWENTY-NINE YEARS OF LIVING THE LIVES WE WANT AT THE COLORADO CENTER FOR THE BLIND Julie Deden, First Vice President, NFB Colorado, Executive Director, CCB, Centennial, Colorado 12:45 p.m. MY BLINDNESS MYSELF Three Federationists will share their inspiring stories about their blindness and the Federation's role in allowing them to live the lives they want. 1:30 p.m. BREAKING UP IS SO EASY TO DO Grab your boxed lunch and head toward our afternoon seminars. SATURDAY AFTERNOON, OCTOBER 28, 2017 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. COLORADO ASSOCIATION OF GUIDE DOG USERS Salon I Melissa, Green, President, COAGDU Greeley, Colorado Colorado association of guide dog users annual business meeting, seminar, and fun match. If you are a guide dog handler or are thinking about a guide dog, join us! We don't bite. Learn tips and tricks, discuss grooming and health, and take part in our first fun match. Guide dog handler teams will go through their paces in a number of performance categories in front of judges from leading guide dog schools. 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. COLORADO ASSOCIATION FOR EDUCATION AND REHABILITATION OF THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED: Discovering Structured Discovery Salon V Brent Batron, President, CAER, Centennial, Colorado Session I - 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. CAER invites you to attend a seminar on structured discovery cane travel. The first part is all about the basics in the way in which NFB Centers teach cane travel. This session will integrate non-traditional teaching into the traditional teaching model. Session II - 3:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. In this session participants will receive a more in-depth experience as you will travel outside of the hotel into the surrounding area. CAER is proud to partner with the NFB of Colorado to expand the knowledge base of CAER members. Professionals will receive professional development hours through ACVREP. The cost for this seminar is separate from convention registration. For CAER members the cost is $10 and $20 for non-members. 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. COLORADO ASSOCIATION OF BLIND STUDENTS BUSINESS MEETING Rams Room Anna Givens, President, CABS Denver, Colorado We gladly welcome students, teachers, parents, or anyone interested in the well-being of blind high school and college students. We'll be teaching you how to advocate for yourself at school and in your life through hearing experiences of others and doing some fun activities. We want to see how we can help throughout the year. This is an excellent place to meet, socialize, and network with other blind students and mentors. $5 registration. 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. SPORTS AND RECREATION DIVISION MEETING Aggie Room, 2nd Floor Maureen Nietfeld, President, Sports and Recreation Division, Littleton, Colorado Come join the sports and recreation division to share your journey with wellness and exercise! Whether you are an avid runner or just getting started, we want to hear from you. Participate in a lively open discussion around advocacy in the gym and help us outline our goals for 2018. We hope to see you there!! 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. DROP-IN ART ROOM Research Room, 2nd Floor Free for All! Come and get creative. Play with clay or have fun making a tactile drawing, cut, paste and color! Be sure to check out the American Action Fund's wonderful new Tactile Art Kit. 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. NON-24 CIRCADIAN RHYTHM DISORDER EDUCATION PROGRAM Natural Resources Room, 2nd Floor Sponsored by Vanda Pharmaceuticals Inc. Come learn more about a debilitating disorder called Non-24 from our nurse educator expert - Shauna Jatho. Non-24 is a serious, chronic circadian rhythm disorder that is very common in people who are totally blind. Non-24 causes nighttime sleep problems and a wide range of daytime difficulties, including an overwhelming urge to sleep during the day affecting the ability to do everyday tasks. Vanda Pharmaceuticals is a global biopharmaceutical company focused on the development and commercialization of innovative therapies to address high unmet medical needs and improve the lives of patients. 3:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. COLORADO ASSOCIATION OF BLIND MERCHANTS Vet Medicine Room, 2nd Floor Bradly Basta, President Colorado Association of Blind Merchants Golden, Colorado We will be discussing the ways in which we can strengthen and grow our BEP program and other entrepreneurs in Colorado, and many topics pertaining to this. SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 28, 2017 6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. PRE-BANQUET RECEPTION Colorado State Ballroom Salons II & III Let's get tuned up for our Annual Banquet with a cash bar and socializing with one another. 7:00 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. ANNUAL BANQUET Master of Ceremonies Kevan Worley, Board Member, NFBCO Colorado Springs, Colorado KEYNOTE ADDRESS Cathy Jackson, Member, NFB Board of Directors; President, NFB of Kentucky NFB OF COLORADO SCHOLARSHIP PRESENTATIONS Jessica Beecham, Chairperson, Committee on Scholarships Colorado Springs, Colorado AWARDS AND OTHER SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS Scott C. LaBarre, President NFB of Colorado ANNUAL FUNDRAISING AUCTION Maryann Migliorelli, NFB of Colorado Auction Chairperson PAC IT UP! Monique Melton, NFB of Colorado PAC Chairperson NFB OF COLORADO AMAZING RAFFLE DRAWING SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 29, 2017 LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT SESSION III Colorado State Ballroom Salons II & III 8:00 a.m. NFB COLORADO ANNUAL CHAPTER AND DIVISION BREAKFAST Julie Deden, Mistress of Ceremonies, First Vice President, NFB Colorado and Executive Director, CCB, Centennial, Colorado We will dine on a scrumptious breakfast and hear reports from all chapters and divisions of the NFB of Colorado. We will also be honored to hear a report from Kathryn Webster, President, of the National Association of Blind Students. 9:25 a.m. LAST GENERAL SESSION Brent Batron, Facilitator, Second Vice President, NFB Colorado, Centennial, Colorado 9:30 a.m. PROTECTING AND ADVANCING THE RIGHT OF THE BLIND TO PARENT Carla McQuillan, Member, NFB Board of Directors, President, NFB Oregon, Eugene, Oregon; Nate Trela, President, NFB Colorado Blind Parents Division, Centennial, Colorado 9:50 a.m. THE BRAND NEW NFB APP Rachel Olivero (remote appearance), Director of NFB Organizational Technology, Baltimore, Maryland 10:05 a.m. THE LATEST AND GREATEST IN NFB NEWSLINER Chip Johnson, NFBCO NewslineR Coordinator, Englewood, Colorado 10:20 a.m. NFB COLORADO BUSINESS SESSION We will take up resolutions, conduct elections for our Board of Directors, review our financial report, and facilitate the Honor Roll Call of Chapters and Divisions. 11:47 a.m. ADJOURN -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Michigan Ave., Suite 300 Chicago, IL 60602 (312) 895-7333 (312) 541-2378 fax meganl at equipforequality.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From janahmed07 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 13:06:27 2017 From: janahmed07 at gmail.com (Jan Ahmed) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:06:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] paralegals and legal assistants Message-ID: Hi All, I could really use some guideance. I have a BS in human services and am thinking about switching careers. I have considered the paralegal field, but would really benefit from talking to others who have entered into and worked in this field. You can send me a private email, so we don't clog up the list. with appreciation, Jan Ahmed janahmed07 at gmail.com From janahmed07 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 15:36:45 2017 From: janahmed07 at gmail.com (Jan Ahmed) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:36:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This message says: "The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list" However, I have subscribed and am a member of this list. In fact, I have been getting the digest for about two weeks, now. Thanks for your assistance. Jan Ahmed On 10/29/17, blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org wrote: > Your mail to 'BlindLaw' with the subject > > paralegals and legal assistants > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/confirm/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/5d1c3f2315d0abada2458fc33b82bf641e472198 > > From dandrews at visi.com Sun Oct 29 15:51:51 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 10:51:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You posted the message from an address, your gmail address, which is different from the address you used to subscribe. I have set it up so you can post from either. Dave At 10:36 AM 10/29/2017, Jan Ahmed wrote: >This message says: >"The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list" >However, I have subscribed and am a member of this list. >In fact, I have been getting the digest for about two weeks, now. > >Thanks for your assistance. >Jan Ahmed > > >On 10/29/17, blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org wrote: > > Your mail to 'BlindLaw' with the subject > > > > paralegals and legal assistants > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > > > The reason it is being held: > > > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > > notification of the moderator's decision. 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Beitz Wienner & Gould, P.C. 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 Rochester, MI  48307 Phone:  (248) 841-9405 Fax:  (248) 652-2729 dbeitz at wiennergould.com www.wiennergould.com This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:52 AM To: Jan Ahmed; blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org Cc: David Andrews; blindlaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval You posted the message from an address, your gmail address, which is different from the address you used to subscribe. I have set it up so you can post from either. Dave At 10:36 AM 10/29/2017, Jan Ahmed wrote: >This message says: >"The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list" >However, I have subscribed and am a member of this list. >In fact, I have been getting the digest for about two weeks, now. > >Thanks for your assistance. >Jan Ahmed > > >On 10/29/17, blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org wrote: > > Your mail to 'BlindLaw' with the subject > > > > paralegals and legal assistants > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > > > The reason it is being held: > > > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > > notification of the moderator's decision. 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On 10/30/17, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw wrote: > I don't know why this came to me, but I do not have a Gmail account. So if > you have an email from Dan Beitz from a Gmail account, it is not from me. > > > > Daniel K. Beitz > Wienner & Gould, P.C. > 950 University Dr., Ste. 350 > Rochester, MI  48307 > Phone:  (248) 841-9405 > Fax:  (248) 652-2729 > dbeitz at wiennergould.com > > www.wiennergould.com > > > This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages > attached > to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.  If > you are > not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this > email > to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or > attached to > this email is strictly prohibited.  Should you receive this communication in > error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by > telephoning > us at (248) 841-9400. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David > Andrews via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:52 AM > To: Jan Ahmed; blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > Cc: David Andrews; blindlaw > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval > > You posted the message from an address, your gmail address, which is > different from the address you used to subscribe. I have set it up so you > can post from either. > > Dave > > At 10:36 AM 10/29/2017, Jan Ahmed wrote: >>This message says: >>"The reason it is being held: >> >> Post by non-member to a members-only list" >>However, I have subscribed and am a member of this list. >>In fact, I have been getting the digest for about two weeks, now. >> >>Thanks for your assistance. >>Jan Ahmed >> >> >>On 10/29/17, blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org wrote: >> > Your mail to 'BlindLaw' with the subject >> > >> > paralegals and legal assistants >> > >> > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. >> > >> > The reason it is being held: >> > >> > Post by non-member to a members-only list >> > >> > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive >> > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to >> > cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: >> > >> > >> > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/confirm/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/5d1c3f2315d0abad >> a2458fc33b82bf641e472198 >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dbeitz%40wiennergould.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/adrijana.prokopenko%40gmail.com > From al.elia at aol.com Mon Oct 30 18:34:55 2017 From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:34:55 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] set blindlaw digest In-Reply-To: References: <005d57fe30ab40ba8651fec82e9cfcd9@wiennergould.com> Message-ID: <63C5016D-7CF5-48A7-8641-AE5E0B300112@aol.com> set blindlaw digest From marshall at blindlawyers.org Tue Oct 31 09:32:13 2017 From: marshall at blindlawyers.org (Scott Marshall) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:32:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David: I did not send this mesage to the blind law list. I wonder if my gmail account has beencompromised. . I will have to investigate about how to fix this. I am using Office 365 with my gmail account, and was told that O365 is as safe as it gets. Apparently not. To protect the list, I suggest that you suspend both accounts until I can get this sorted out: marshall at blindlawyers.org and scott.marshall2 at gmail.com. Thanks. If you get any other nonpersonal messages from me, please forward them back so that the headers can be analyzed. So sorry for the inconvenience. Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:52 AM To: Jan Ahmed ; blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org Cc: David Andrews ; blindlaw Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Your message to BlindLaw awaits moderator approval You posted the message from an address, your gmail address, which is different from the address you used to subscribe. I have set it up so you can post from either. Dave At 10:36 AM 10/29/2017, Jan Ahmed wrote: >This message says: >"The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list" >However, I have subscribed and am a member of this list. >In fact, I have been getting the digest for about two weeks, now. > >Thanks for your assistance. >Jan Ahmed > > >On 10/29/17, blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org wrote: > > Your mail to 'BlindLaw' with the subject > > > > paralegals and legal assistants > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > > > The reason it is being held: > > > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > > > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/confirm/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/5d1c3f2315d0abada2458fc33b82bf641e472198 > > > > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marshall%40blindlawyers.org