[blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

Laura Wolk laura.wolk at gmail.com
Sun Dec 16 14:36:45 UTC 2018


Oh trust me. I absolutely plan to, and I suggest that anyone who has any aspirations of actually functioning as a lawyer in the twenty-first century on equal footing without needing to take more than twice as long to complete an assignment for no reason other than the fact that this company can't get it together does the same. I will try the control plus end trick to see if that works.

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> On Dec 16, 2018, at 3:03 AM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay, right. This problem often arises even when you try to go through
> revisions by using the quick navigation keys - JAWS will say that
> there are no more revisions in the document when in actuality there
> are. The only way that I have found of ensuring that no revisions get
> left behind is setting custom keystrokes for moving to the previous
> and next revision. One potential solution could be to make sure that
> you get to the end of the document by pressing control+end to ensure
> that JAWS has the entire document in its field of vision when
> preparing the list of revisions. If the problem still persists, this
> must be because, even though they have expanded the list of revisions
> JAWS can display in the virtual viewer, it still hasn't been
> sufficiently expanded to capture all revisions.
> 
> I will point this out to FS. I would be grateful if you could do so, too.
> 
> Best,
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>> On 15/12/2018, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry for any confusion. What I'm saying is that jaws will say "there are
>> 142 revisions in this document" and display 142. But actually there are 210.
>> Perhaps this is the problems others were having before, but for me, other
>> than footnotes, Jaws was accurate or it just said "there are no revisions to
>> display."
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this update, Laura. While I haven't had to use track
>>> changes extensively for a while, one follow-up: if it reports that
>>> there are more changes than there actually are, it is not clear to me
>>> how that creates a false sense of security that one has reviewed all
>>> the revisions made. Wouldn't it instead be the case that one would be
>>> left feeling that one has not reviewed all the revisions made, when in
>>> reality you will have done that?
>>> 
>>> Please correct me if I didn't understand your mail correctly. I just
>>> want to acquire a clearer picture of the problem in order to be able
>>> to get back to FS if this needs further work at this juncture.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul<div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />
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>>>> On 15/12/2018, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I'm providing an update to this topic, as it generated a lot of
>>>> traffic and I'd love to spare another lawyer the risk of relying on
>>>> this $1,000 disappointment to his professional detriment.
>>>> 
>>>> Jaws still does not announce the correct number of revisions.
>>>> Instead, after taking up to 30 or 45 seconds sometimes, it will
>>>> announce a much larger number that still isn't always accurate.  This
>>>> is actually worse than when it simply said there were no revisions to
>>>> display, since we all knew that was incorrect.  now it gives the false
>>>> sense of security that you have, in fact, looked at every revision
>>>> when there could be a hundred more that are not displaying that you
>>>> haven't reviewed.  note that though this isn't a terrible
>>>> inconvenience when you are integrating all changes into one draft from
>>>> only one document, it is a huge problem if you are receiving multiple
>>>> streams of edits from multiple sources that you are trying to
>>>> accept/reject and then compile into one final draft.  So be
>>>> forewarned, Jaws is sstill failing abysmally at providing us with the
>>>> elementary tools needed in 2018 to maintain "Job access."
>>>> 
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