[blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

[Tai Tomasi]

Tim,

What resources are you using to learn NVDA? Are there any good tutorials other than just using the software manual?

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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 6:01 PM
To: 'Laura Wolk' <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com; 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

Understood.  I forwarded this to a contact at Microsoft to see if they could do anything while we wait on whatever the developer of JAWS is calling itself these days.  I've also been slowly learning NVDA to diversify my technology tools.


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:25 PM
To: tim at timeldermusic.com
Cc: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

Nope. Not an option. And though 2010 didn't crash nearly as much as the newer versions, it still couldn't handle documents with more than a hundred or so revisions. Which, you know, is basically every round of editing a brief or large filing of any kind. Using 2010 was my work-around for 6 years. But I'm really getting fed up. It'd be great if we all colectively could put pressure on Jaws to actually give us the tools we need to succeed and be on equal footing with our peers.

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> On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:05 PM, <tim at timeldermusic.com>
<tim at timeldermusic.com> wrote:
> 
> Track changes in newly created Word documents still work reliably in
Office 2010 if using an older machine for this kind of task is an option.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 11:22 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
> 
> I'm providing an update to this topic, as it generated a lot of 
> traffic
and I'd love to spare another lawyer the risk of relying on this $1,000 disappointment to his professional detriment.
> 
> Jaws still does not announce the correct number of revisions.
> Instead, after taking up to 30 or 45 seconds sometimes, it will 
> announce a
much larger number that still isn't always accurate.  This is actually worse than when it simply said there were no revisions to display, since we all knew that was incorrect.  now it gives the false sense of security that you have, in fact, looked at every revision when there could be a hundred more that are not displaying that you haven't reviewed.  note that though this isn't a terrible inconvenience when you are integrating all changes into one draft from only one document, it is a huge problem if you are receiving multiple streams of edits from multiple sources that you are trying to accept/reject and then compile into one final draft.  So be forewarned, Jaws is sstill failing abysmally at providing us with the elementary tools needed in 2018 to maintain "Job access."
> 
> 
> 


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