From glnorman15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  5 12:39:27 2018
From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:39:27 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] July 26 Boston
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The Promise and Realities of Human Rights for All
Alumni Action Dialogues


A Conversation on Disability Access in the Global Era
July 26, 2018 at the Non-profit Center of Boston


Want a great way to celebrate the promise of the Americans with Disabilities Act, while learning of its connection to the global stage?
Gary C. Norman (AMMF 2008) and Kerry Thompson (AMMF 2014) shall co-host and co-facilitate the next of their dialogues on community integration.  They do so under the auspices of an Alumni Action Grant at the German Marshall Fund of the U.S.

These two leaders with disabilities, who have a foot print in Trans-Atlantic relations with a focus on community integration, will explore the mutually supportive roles of the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities and access improvements at home, and how our partnership in law and in culture, builds a global inclusive community.  Attendees will depart with their awareness raised on these issues as well as the promise in the Trans-Atlantic for emerging unique leaders.

Reservations should be promptly submitted to Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M.

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   1. Seattle University Law Access to Justice Institute is hiring!
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From: Cindy Yeung <yeungcy at seattleu.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:06 AM
To: ATJ Community <atj-community at list.wsba.org>
Subject: [atj-community] SU Law Access to Justice Institute is hiring!

Seattle University School of Law Access to Justice Institute is hiring for an Associate Director. Click here<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fseattleu.csod.com%2Fats%2Fcareersite%2FJobDetails.aspx%3Fid%3D495&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb09a1c1bf0aa4f0e42f308d5c7b741eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636634512247613204&sdata=qJEqmQhr7ke7kxLY%2FXgk34IX9xsJdStq3IE8ERWjEOc%3D&reserved=0> for more information and to apply. Please share widely.

Associate Director Access to Justice Institute

FLSA Status: Exempt

Months Per Year: 12

Hours Per Week: 37.5

Position Description

The Associate Director will serve as an integral part of the Access to Justice Institute (ATJI) team to accomplish the goal of inspiring law students to make a lifelong commitment to equal justice for marginalized and/or underserved communities.  The Associate Director will report to the Director of the Access to Justice Institute.

Seattle University School of Law educates ethical lawyers who distinguish themselves through their outstanding professional skills and their dedication to law in the service of justice. Faculty, students, and staff form a vibrant, diverse, and collaborative community that promotes leadership for a just and humane world. The Law School?s commitment to academic distinction is grounded in its Jesuit Catholic tradition, one that encourages open inquiry, thoughtful reflection and concern for personal growth. Innovation, creativity and technological sophistication characterize our rigorous educational program, which prepares lawyers for a wide range of successful and rewarding careers in law, business and public service.

ATJI serves as the law school?s social justice hub, inspiring, promoting and supporting: transformative and active community engagement by the law school community in the service of justice for marginalized and underserved communities; bridge- building between academics and action to help eliminate unfair and oppressive systems and practices; community-building with those individuals and community groups who share a commitment to justice for all; and leadership development and capacity building of the next generation of social justice lawyers.

Together with the ATJI team, the Associate Director is a vital team member who will strive to accomplish the goal of inspiring law students, wherever their career paths take them, to make a lifelong commitment to equal justice for marginalized or underserved communities.

In collaboration with the Director of ATJI, develop a strategic plan and oversee activities and trainings that drive the mission to provide community engagement opportunities for students.

Communicate social justice opportunities to law students:

1. Respond to inquiries by legal services providers, pro bono counsel, community agencies, courts, government agencies, faculty, SU Law Clinic or any other public interest entity by assisting them with communication to students about existing opportunities (e.g., draft volunteer opportunity announcements for review, serving as a filter for applicants, facilitating opportunities for the organization to make presentations).

2. Conduct outreach so that students know about the opportunities (e.g., ensure opportunities are published in ATJI communications, and encourage Center for Professional Development and relevant faculty members to share opportunities with their students).

3. Follow up with students who take advantage of the opportunities to find out about their experience.

4.  Engage in community outreach with legal service providers to maintain and build new relationships, keep abreast of strategic advocacy focus areas, and assess the current legal climate.

Develop and oversee Partnership Projects (ongoing volunteer social justice opportunities facilitated by ATJI in partnership with an organization) by collaborating with legal services providers, pro bono counsel, community agencies, courts, government agencies, faculty, SU Law Clinic or any other public interest entity. Development and oversight involves:

1. Reaching out to potential partners and identifying how law students could help them.

2. Designing opportunities for student participation, in collaboration with the partner organization and, when appropriate, law student organizations with a goal of providing opportunities requiring varied commitment levels for student participation.

3. Recruiting student leaders and volunteers.

4. Organizing any necessary trainings.

5. Providing oversight and guided reflection to ensure quality work by students and quality experiences for the students.

6. Sharing coverage with Director for Moderate Means Program staff attorney when they are unavailable.

Mentor and supervise students and student organization leaders who engage in social justice projects by providing technical support (i.e., legal expertise, ethics), guidance (i.e., connections to community, how to collaborate trainings), and capacity to build leadership skills.  This includes:

1. Work with the Public Interest Law Foundation to host several events including but not limited to the Evening with Equal Justice and the annual spring auction. This work will include extensive event planning and procurement tasks.

2. Together with the Director, track student hours for the Pro Bono Pledge and ensure accurate reporting to the Dean?s Office for graduation. Promote the Pro Bono Pledge and encourage participation by all students.

Organize, oversee, and/or support ongoing social justice events, trainings, symposia, and series.  Develop new programming that serves the primary mission of ATJI.

Collaborate with law school departments to advance the law school mission. Some examples include: Lifelong Commitment to Social Justice, work with Center for Professional Development by cross- referring and meeting with students to connect them to volunteer and networking opportunities.  Collaborate on programming, including public interest career road-mapping and post- graduate fellowship outreach.

Bridging Academics to Action: work with faculty to identify and develop service-learning opportunities, connecting them to the equal justice community and the work of ATJI.

Development Opportunities for Active Engagement: work with the Fred T. Korematsu Center for Law and Equality and the Ronald A Peterson Law Clinic on collaborative projects to advance respective goals and to provide more opportunities for students to engage the justice community.

Building Law Student Community and Leaders for Justice, work with Office of Admission to assist with cultivating public interest minded applicants and selecting the Scholars for Justice.  Work with the Office of Alumni Relations to encourage pro bono among alumni.

Collaborate with external law school public interest administrators and faculty and equal justice and pro bono organizations, groups, and alliances to advance the mutual equal justice mission.  Some examples of these groups include Access to Justice Board?s Law School Relations Committee, WSBA Pro Bono and Legal Aid Committee, and the Seattle Area Pro Bono Group.

Other duties as assigned.

Qualifications

The position requires a J.D. with three to five years of public interest legal experience as an attorney.

Candidates must have a demonstrated commitment to social justice.

Candidates must have a demonstrated commitment to inclusion, diversity and cross-difference competence as a justice imperative, and a commitment to the university?s mission, vision, and values.

Candidates must be able to work collaboratively and work both in teams and independently.

Candidates must have excellent oral and written communication skills, and the ability to comfortably speak in front of large and small groups.

Candidates must have competency with Microsoft Office products and some familiarity and experience with social media tools.

Candidates must be system-thinkers, be well organized, able to work on multiple projects at the same time, be able to prioritize and manage work projects, and enjoy a team oriented approach to projects.

Candidates must have a License to practice law, preferably in Washington.

Experience working at a law school or with law students, including having first-hand knowledge of working in a law school setting as well as having experience supervising law students in their legal work is preferred.

Experience with developing or participating in professional leadership development programming is preferred.

Experience with event and/or training/CLE planning and oversight is preferred.

Candidates must be creative, enjoy working with a diverse community, and have a sense of humor.

Seattle University, founded in 1891, is a Jesuit Catholic university located on 50 acres in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood. More than 7,400 students are enrolled in undergraduate and graduate programs within nine schools and colleges. U.S. News and World Report's "Best Colleges 2017" ranks Seattle University 8th in the West among universities that offer a full range of masters and undergraduate programs. Seattle University is an equal opportunity employer.

In support of its pursuit of academic and scholarly excellence, Seattle University is committed to creating a diverse community of students, faculty and staff that is dedicated to the fundamental principles of equal opportunity and treatment in education and employment regardless of age, color, disability, gender identity, national origin, political ideology, race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, or veteran status. The university encourages applications from, and nominations of, individuals whose differing backgrounds, beliefs, ideas and life experiences will further enrich the diversity of its educational community.

Application Instructions

Applicants are also strongly encouraged to attach an electronic cover letter and resume when applying. Persons who need assistance with the recruitment process may contact the Office of Human Resources at: 206-296-5870. Job postings are open until filled, unless otherwise specified.


Cindy Yeung ?04
Access to Justice Institute
901 12th Avenue Room 115
Seattle, WA 98122
(206) 852-3905 (cell)
(206) 398-4455 (direct)
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:20:46 +0000
From: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
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Subject: [blindlaw] Job Openings at Disability Rights Tennessee
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There are multiple attorney and advocate job openings at Disability Rights Tennessee:
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disabilityrightstn.org%2Fresources%2Fnews%2Fmay-2018%2Fnew-career-opportunities-at-drt&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb09a1c1bf0aa4f0e42f308d5c7b741eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636634512247613204&sdata=c4SYcRHpUBAOyhbJJ7rtfZEKPyLJfKKdQ1WnSsLKJag%3D&reserved=0

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney

[Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter]

400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
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Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities

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From amatney at loeb.com  Tue Jun  5 17:04:44 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:04:44 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
Message-ID: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A539BE2B8D@SM-EXMAIL03.loeb.com>

Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.

We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?

Thanks again,

Angie


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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue Jun  5 17:12:33 2018
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:12:33 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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I am on JAWS 17 and Windows 10. Imanage is a no-go, so I work around it, which is fine. Many partners dislike iManage as well. Staying on Windows 7 has its benefits. However, this operating system has a bunch of security flaws.

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Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.

We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?

Thanks again,

Angie


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Admitted only in Virginia
[Loeb & Loeb LLP]<http://www.loeb.com/>
901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001
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From amatney at loeb.com  Tue Jun  5 17:18:44 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:18:44 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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You're right--staying on Windows 7 really isn't a long-term option. I actually used a much more accessible version of iManage at a prior firm, and I guess I'm spoiled--I don't like working without it. It makes it so much easier to track different versions of something, to find prior art, etc. I want to get that functionality back. Everybody's workflow is different, but for me, it made certain things so much easier. 

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This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.

I am on JAWS 17 and Windows 10. Imanage is a no-go, so I work around it, which is fine. Many partners dislike iManage as well. Staying on Windows 7 has its benefits. However, this operating system has a bunch of security flaws.

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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:05 PM
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Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS

Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.

We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?

Thanks again,

Angie


Angela Matney, CIPP/US
Attorney at Law
Admitted only in Virginia
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From amarjain at amarjain.com  Tue Jun  5 17:22:44 2018
From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:52:44 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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Hi Angie,

I did reach out to file site team, and actually demonstrated that it isn’t working (as they kept on claiming accessibility) but since then they haven’t done anything to fix this.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05-Jun-2018, at 10:42 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am on JAWS 17 and Windows 10. Imanage is a no-go, so I work around it, which is fine. Many partners dislike iManage as well. Staying on Windows 7 has its benefits. However, this operating system has a bunch of security flaws.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:05 PM
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> Cc: Angela Matney
> Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
> 
> Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.
> 
> We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Angie
> 
> 
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From amatney at loeb.com  Tue Jun  5 17:35:14 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:35:14 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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Amar,

FileSite was actually the product I used at my last firm. Of course, we had Windows 7 there. But FileSite is more accessible with Windows 7 than DeskSite is (or at least, that has been my experience). Sounds like neither works well in Windows 10. 

Angie



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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS

This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.

Hi Angie,

I did reach out to file site team, and actually demonstrated that it isn’t working (as they kept on claiming accessibility) but since then they haven’t done anything to fix this.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05-Jun-2018, at 10:42 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am on JAWS 17 and Windows 10. Imanage is a no-go, so I work around it, which is fine. Many partners dislike iManage as well. Staying on Windows 7 has its benefits. However, this operating system has a bunch of security flaws.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Matney via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:05 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Angela Matney
> Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
> 
> Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.
> 
> We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Angie
> 
> 
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From rfarber at jw.com  Tue Jun  5 18:34:21 2018
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 18:34:21 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A539BE2B8D@SM-EXMAIL03.loeb.com>
References: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A539BE2B8D@SM-EXMAIL03.loeb.com>
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Angie - I am having similar problems.  However, we finally got JAWS to put a technician on the problem and in 5 minutes he wrote a script that allowed Filesite to work with Outlook 2016 and Windows 10.  Let's talk offline.  You can call me at 713-752-4241.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 12:05 PM
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Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS

Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.

We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?

Thanks again,

Angie


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From dbeitz at wiennergould.com  Tue Jun  5 18:45:49 2018
From: dbeitz at wiennergould.com (Dan Beitz)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 18:45:49 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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Anybody know if worlddox works?



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Angie - I am having similar problems.  However, we finally got JAWS to put a technician on the problem and in 5 minutes he wrote a script that allowed Filesite to work with Outlook 2016 and Windows 10.  Let's talk offline.  You can call me at 713-752-4241.

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Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS

Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.

We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?

Thanks again,

Angie


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From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  5 18:49:36 2018
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:49:36 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] iManage and JAWS
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I think only if you get custom scripts written, which of course aren't 
cheap. I used it at a summer position, but the organization already had 
a blind attorney on staff and had contracted to have scripts written for 
her.


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> Anybody know if worlddox works?
>
>
>
> Daniel K. Beitz
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> Angie - I am having similar problems.  However, we finally got JAWS to put a technician on the problem and in 5 minutes he wrote a script that allowed Filesite to work with Outlook 2016 and Windows 10.  Let's talk offline.  You can call me at 713-752-4241.
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> Just thought I’d re-ask the question that pops up every so often on here—due to me, as often as not. Has anyone had any luck with iManage and Windows 10? We recently upgraded, and it simply is not functional. I am holding on to my old Windows 7 machine for as long as I can, but that is not a long-term solution.
>
> We are using DeskSite. I must confess I don’t understand the differences between Desksite / Filesite / Mailsite / Worksite / all the other iManage offerings. Has anyone had any scripting done to address this, and if so, could you provide contact information?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Angie
>
>
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From mnowicki4 at icloud.com  Wed Jun  6 15:52:58 2018
From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:52:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


From jmccarthy at mdtap.org  Wed Jun  6 16:46:06 2018
From: jmccarthy at mdtap.org (Jim McCarthy)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:46:06 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Michal
Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
Jim McCarthy

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Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Wed Jun  6 17:00:54 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:00:54 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.


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Michal
Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
Jim McCarthy

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Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  6 17:36:48 2018
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:36:48 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Hi Michiel thanks for your message. Good luck with the essay portion of the bar exam. Do you have a braille notetaker? If so you can open the Word Processor on it, and take notes on the legal facts of each case with it while you navigate your study materials using Jaws.

On Jun 6, 2018 11:52 AM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.
>
> Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
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From lmendez716 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  6 19:28:29 2018
From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:28:29 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Good afternoon:

That's a good strategy.  I place triple asterisks immediately preceding and after text that  seems useful so that I can retrieve  and copy the text as a block if I decide to add it to a research file or document. 

When I took the New York State bar, the highest text available was a cassette  recorder; so I used that to dictate  facts that seemed relevant.  Perhaps the same strategy could work using Dragon Anywhere or other means of  quickly jotting down important facts.   I could have used a braille writer, but I didn't want to take both hands off the page. 

Luis

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I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.


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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Michal
Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
Jim McCarthy

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Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

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From mnowicki4 at icloud.com  Wed Jun  6 20:28:31 2018
From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:28:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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All,

Thank you so much for all your suggestions. I think placing three asterisks at the beginning and end of each block of text I wish to highlight will work best for me. Although I do have a Braille note taker, (1) it is an additional device I would need to bring to the test center and (2) I did not request use of a Braille note taker as an accommodation, and it is now too late to request any changes to accommodations for the July exam. Of course, I must now make sure that I get the exam in an editable format; my accommodation grant does not specify the file format, only that I will be able to access the exam electronically with JAWS. Thank you, all, once more.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Good afternoon:

That's a good strategy.  I place triple asterisks immediately preceding and after text that  seems useful so that I can retrieve  and copy the text as a block if I decide to add it to a research file or document. 

When I took the New York State bar, the highest text available was a cassette  recorder; so I used that to dictate  facts that seemed relevant.  Perhaps the same strategy could work using Dragon Anywhere or other means of  quickly jotting down important facts.   I could have used a braille writer, but I didn't want to take both hands off the page. 

Luis

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I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.


Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Michal
Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
Jim McCarthy

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Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Wed Jun  6 20:34:30 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:34:30 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Although it would behoove you to ensure that the exam is in an editable format, I will tell you that I have never heard of a bar exam provided to a blind screen reader user in any other format than a word processor file. 

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

All,

Thank you so much for all your suggestions. I think placing three asterisks at the beginning and end of each block of text I wish to highlight will work best for me. Although I do have a Braille note taker, (1) it is an additional device I would need to bring to the test center and (2) I did not request use of a Braille note taker as an accommodation, and it is now too late to request any changes to accommodations for the July exam. Of course, I must now make sure that I get the exam in an editable format; my accommodation grant does not specify the file format, only that I will be able to access the exam electronically with JAWS. Thank you, all, once more.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:29 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Luis Mendez
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Good afternoon:

That's a good strategy.  I place triple asterisks immediately preceding and after text that  seems useful so that I can retrieve  and copy the text as a block if I decide to add it to a research file or document. 

When I took the New York State bar, the highest text available was a cassette  recorder; so I used that to dictate  facts that seemed relevant.  Perhaps the same strategy could work using Dragon Anywhere or other means of  quickly jotting down important facts.   I could have used a braille writer, but I didn't want to take both hands off the page. 

Luis

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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.


Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Michal
Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
Jim McCarthy

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Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays

Hello Everyone,

I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.

Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Michal

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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Wed Jun  6 20:34:46 2018
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:34:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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You can also use place markers if you're using jaws. I find that to be faster than inserting text and searching for it 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2018, at 16:28, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> Thank you so much for all your suggestions. I think placing three asterisks at the beginning and end of each block of text I wish to highlight will work best for me. Although I do have a Braille note taker, (1) it is an additional device I would need to bring to the test center and (2) I did not request use of a Braille note taker as an accommodation, and it is now too late to request any changes to accommodations for the July exam. Of course, I must now make sure that I get the exam in an editable format; my accommodation grant does not specify the file format, only that I will be able to access the exam electronically with JAWS. Thank you, all, once more.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:29 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Cc: Luis Mendez
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
> 
> Good afternoon:
> 
> That's a good strategy.  I place triple asterisks immediately preceding and after text that  seems useful so that I can retrieve  and copy the text as a block if I decide to add it to a research file or document. 
> 
> When I took the New York State bar, the highest text available was a cassette  recorder; so I used that to dictate  facts that seemed relevant.  Perhaps the same strategy could work using Dragon Anywhere or other means of  quickly jotting down important facts.   I could have used a braille writer, but I didn't want to take both hands off the page. 
> 
> Luis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:01 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
> 
> I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.
> 
> 
> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
> Pronouns: she/her/hers
> Staff Attorney
> 
> 
> 
> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jim McCarthy via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:46 AM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jim McCarthy <jmccarthy at mdtap.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
> 
> Michal
> Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars, some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering experience for those months one engages in it.
> Jim McCarthy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:53 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Michal Nowicki
> Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.
> 
> Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Michal
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From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Wed Jun  6 21:05:46 2018
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:05:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
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Michal,

You could also copy and paste the relevant facts into a separate Word
document. I did that for essays and it helped. Good luck!

On 6/6/18, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> You can also use place markers if you're using jaws. I find that to be
> faster than inserting text and searching for it
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 16:28, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Thank you so much for all your suggestions. I think placing three
>> asterisks at the beginning and end of each block of text I wish to
>> highlight will work best for me. Although I do have a Braille note taker,
>> (1) it is an additional device I would need to bring to the test center
>> and (2) I did not request use of a Braille note taker as an accommodation,
>> and it is now too late to request any changes to accommodations for the
>> July exam. Of course, I must now make sure that I get the exam in an
>> editable format; my accommodation grant does not specify the file format,
>> only that I will be able to access the exam electronically with JAWS.
>> Thank you, all, once more.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:29 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Luis Mendez
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
>>
>> Good afternoon:
>>
>> That's a good strategy.  I place triple asterisks immediately preceding
>> and after text that  seems useful so that I can retrieve  and copy the
>> text as a block if I decide to add it to a research file or document.
>>
>> When I took the New York State bar, the highest text available was a
>> cassette  recorder; so I used that to dictate  facts that seemed relevant.
>>  Perhaps the same strategy could work using Dragon Anywhere or other means
>> of  quickly jotting down important facts.   I could have used a braille
>> writer, but I didn't want to take both hands off the page.
>>
>> Luis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via
>> BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:01 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
>>
>> I don't have much to add, since I accessed the exam in Braille. I did have
>> use of a computer for typing my answers and taking notes,  allowing me to
>> jot down notes in a text file pertaining to the essays. I often use Jim's
>> idea of placing asterisks next to text to which I want to refer later and
>> using the find and find next commands to refer back to them.
>>
>>
>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Pronouns: she/her/hers
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
>> www.driowa.org
>>
>> Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans
>> with disabilities
>>
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>>
>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of
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>> destroy any printouts.
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jim McCarthy via
>> BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:46 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jim McCarthy <jmccarthy at mdtap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
>>
>> Michal
>> Others may have a better idea on this than have I. To me, you might be
>> best to bracket the text, if you can do that with braces, brackets stars,
>> some sort of punctuation or symbol you will not regularly see, but one you
>> can search for. I took bar exams using computers, but it was in the days
>> when that was an accommodation available mostly only to those with
>> disabilities and I had the ability to alter the document. I am not sure
>> that still is an option. If it is though, you could also add little notes
>> like (for negligence) or (intent) all between the punctuation mark you
>> choose. I think of the JAWS functions you suggest, place markers may be
>> the most useful. Speech and sound schemes can be helpful reading
>> legislation; I think text analyzer is a good start point in proof reading
>> legal documents you might develop; and skim reading helps for summarizing
>> long documents but I am not sure those work as well for your task. Sending
>> positive thoughts your direction as bar study is a life altering
>> experience for those months one engages in it.
>> Jim McCarthy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal
>> Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:53 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Keeping Track of Key Facts on Bar Exam Essays
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I am seeking advice on
>> improving my time on bar exam essays. Currently, even with the double time
>> I have for each essay, I can never finish in the allotted time. The
>> problem is that I have not figured out how to annotate the fact patterns
>> so that I can quickly find relevant facts. According to my Barbri
>> instructors, this is an important step in maximizing efficiency: at least
>> for sighted people, who can easily highlight information and jot down
>> margin notes that quickly jump out at them as they skim the passage.
>>
>> Do any of you have any suggestions on how to keep track of legally
>> operative facts efficiently using JAWS? Some JAWS features I’ve been
>> considering trying out are (1) speech and sound schemes, (2) text
>> analyzer, (3) skim reading, and (4) placemarkers. Have any of you found
>> those or other features useful on the essay portion of the exam? Any tips
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Jun  7 15:06:45 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:06:45 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Southern Poverty Law Center openings
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Passing along these great senior supervising attorney positions with the Southern Poverty Law Center in case you know of anyone who might be a good fit. The locations are Miami, New Orleans, and Montgomery:

Children's Rights (Alabama, Florida & Louisiana) - Reporting to Deputy Legal Director, Zoe Savitsky, new Senior Supervising Attorneys for Alabama, Florida, and Louisiana will lead teams in challenging the privatization of public education and the structural inequalities that disproportionately direct vulnerable children from the classroom and toward prison and prevent them from accessing the services they need to flourish in their communities. The ideal candidates will be exceptionally talented impact litigators, strategists, and managers who will lead teams focused on pursuing justice on behalf of vulnerable children. More information about the roles can be found here: https://nonprofitprofessionals.com/job/splc-childrights.

Criminal Justice Reform (Alabama) - Reporting to Deputy Legal Director, Lisa Graybill, the Senior Supervising Attorney will lead a team in challenging the structural inequalities in Alabama’s criminal justice system that result in mass incarceration and the disproportionate incarceration of people of color. The ideal candidate will be an exceptionally talented impact litigator, strategist, and manager to lead a team focused on equity and constitutional compliance at every stage of the criminal justice system. More information about the role can be found here: https://nonprofitprofessionals.com/job/splc-crimjust.

From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Jun  7 15:07:35 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:07:35 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Disability Rights DC Attorney Position
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Disability Rights DC at University Legal Services is hiring.  The job posting is attached and here’s the link to Idealist:

https://www.idealist.org/en/nonprofit-job/2ebaddb20ce44f258afeed0a060dc5f4-attorney-university-legal-services-inc-washington
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From tianamknight at gmail.com  Thu Jun  7 16:52:58 2018
From: tianamknight at gmail.com (Tiana Knight)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:52:58 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
Message-ID: <09C39201-3C11-4C38-8DEE-CC2F47182F21@gmail.com>

Good morning,
 sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input. 
Thank you in advance.
Tiana

From michael.capelle at charter.net  Thu Jun  7 17:00:53 2018
From: michael.capelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:00:53 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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Hello, most definitely a braille display.

-----Original Message----- 
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To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Tiana Knight
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology

Good morning,
sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m 
trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every 
day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop 
and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what 
other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
Thank you in advance.
Tiana
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Jun  7 17:03:16 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:03:16 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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Tiana:

If you are new here, welcome to the list! I am a totally blind lawyer who has been practicing law for 2.5 years. Your assistive technology needs may vary, but I find the use of a Braille display very beneficial. I use a Baum VarioUltra 40, but that company is currently not manufacturing units. If you are a Braille user, check out the Focus 40 fifth generation. I have heard great things about it. I also use JAWS for Windows screen reader and ABBYY FineReader to process scanned documents using Optical Character Recognition (OCR). This is a mainstream OCR program. Others on the list use Kurzweil 1000 which is a product designed for blind users. Please feel free to contact me off list. Thanks and best of luck.

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Tiana Knight <tianamknight at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology

Good morning,
 sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input. 
Thank you in advance.
Tiana
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From tianamknight at gmail.com  Thu Jun  7 17:08:31 2018
From: tianamknight at gmail.com (Tiana Knight)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 11:08:31 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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Is there one in particular that you would recommend? Also, further to my previous question. What does everybody use for file management? Do you label your files in braille? Any tips or tricks that you have found make your lives a lot easier would be incredibly appreciated.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello, most definitely a braille display.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tiana Knight via BlindLaw
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> Good morning,
> sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
> Thank you in advance.
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Jun  7 17:20:52 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:20:52 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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I am currently using the Baum VarioUltra 40 with great success. However, the company is currently not producing this model, as it is in bankruptcy. I have heard great things about the Focus 40 fifth generation. It seems to be of great build quality. However, do be aware that it is made by VFO Group, a large company with which many blind people have issues due to its role as a corporate Goliath in the industry. I have little knowledge or experience with other displays currently on the market.  

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Is there one in particular that you would recommend? Also, further to my previous question. What does everybody use for file management? Do you label your files in braille? Any tips or tricks that you have found make your lives a lot easier would be incredibly appreciated.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello, most definitely a braille display.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tiana Knight via BlindLaw
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> Good morning,
> sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
> Thank you in advance.
> Tiana
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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Thu Jun  7 17:39:36 2018
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:39:36 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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Hi Tiana,ffice 365 for interacting with the rest of the world.

On the low-tech side of things (since you asked about braille displays I take it you are a braille user) I will say that I still use a slate and stylus for court, meetings, and depositions.  Especially in court where time is of the essence (we only get 15 minutes in our courts of appeal) I value the reliability of the low tech approach—no battery to die, no Bluetooth connection to drop, and it never goes into sleep mode unexpectedly.  I don’t use heavy-duty braille paper by the way, just regular printer paper or legal pads.  It doesn’t last forever, but you can write a lot faster, and in my experience it lasts for the life of most cases, so that’s good enough.

Hope that helps.

Brian
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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tiana Knight via BlindLaw
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Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology

Good morning,
sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
Thank you in advance.
Tiana
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Thu Jun  7 17:51:30 2018
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:51:30 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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I use an iPad Pro (rest of attorneys in our agency use Surface Pro, but our network - we are the county Public Defender, and on a county-wide network which does not play nice with JAWS or any of the other assistive technologies) with Bluetooth keyboard and an earbud.  I also have an ADA assistant to process and read / explain inaccessible items to me.

Susan C L Kelly
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Good morning,
sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
Thank you in advance.
Tiana
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From jmccarthy at mdtap.org  Thu Jun  7 18:23:36 2018
From: jmccarthy at mdtap.org (Jim McCarthy)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 14:23:36 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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Following on to Tai's note about the Vario 40, I use it also as a great out and about solution. I do not do court so can't say for sure about that but I do think it would serve well in that environment if it becomes your choice. As Tai said, that unit is no longer being sold and the future prospects are not really known. This means though that several folks seem to want to sell their units so good discounts can be found. These units are rather light weight and I think that they will work with technology, laptops and the like, for a good while. The issue that may be less positive is getting the unit repaired in the case of breakdown. There was an American distributor that could do many of the repairs as the unit is sold by a German company. Indications are that these units will be manufactured again, but there is no indication that there will be a repair option in the United States, which would suggest high shipping costs when repairs are needed and perhaps long wait times. Most of the primary venders of braille displays also have a reputation for long repair wait times but the shipping costs may be considerably less. 
Jim McCarthy 

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I am currently using the Baum VarioUltra 40 with great success. However, the company is currently not producing this model, as it is in bankruptcy. I have heard great things about the Focus 40 fifth generation. It seems to be of great build quality. However, do be aware that it is made by VFO Group, a large company with which many blind people have issues due to its role as a corporate Goliath in the industry. I have little knowledge or experience with other displays currently on the market.  

Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
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Is there one in particular that you would recommend? Also, further to my previous question. What does everybody use for file management? Do you label your files in braille? Any tips or tricks that you have found make your lives a lot easier would be incredibly appreciated.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello, most definitely a braille display.
> 
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> Good morning,
> sorry for the interruption. I’m a newly graduated totally blind lawyer and I’m trying to figure out what the best assistive technology will be in my every day practice and especially in court. Currently I really only use my laptop and I’m wondering whether I should be purchasing a braille display or what other devices people have found useful. I would really appreciate any input.
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From amatney at loeb.com  Thu Jun  7 18:55:56 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 18:55:56 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Assistive technology
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For people who are looking for a braille display to use with a laptop, I highly recommend the Brailliant BI models (I have the 40). This display isn't a "smart" display, so it can't do independent note-taking. But in all other respects, it's a great option. It even has extremely quiet keys and dots. I don't go to court, but I do use it every day in my practice. I will sometimes type on the display when I am on the phone because it is quieter than my PC keyboard. It is also reasonably priced. I don't know how it compares to the new Focus displays in price or performance. I have a Vario 40 at home, and I had planned to get one for work, but when that suddenly was no longer an option, I decided to go with the Brailliant. I have no regrets.



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Following on to Tai's note about the Vario 40, I use it also as a great out and about solution. I do not do court so can't say for sure about that but I do think it would serve well in that environment if it becomes your choice. As Tai said, that unit is no longer being sold and the future prospects are not really known. This means though that several folks seem to want to sell their units so good discounts can be found. These units are rather light weight and I think that they will work with technology, laptops and the like, for a good while. The issue that may be less positive is getting the unit repaired in the case of breakdown. There was an American distributor that could do many of the repairs as the unit is sold by a German company. Indications are that these units will be manufactured again, but there is no indication that there will be a repair option in the United States, which would suggest high shipping costs when repairs are needed and perhaps long wait times. Most of the primary venders of braille displays also have a reputation for long repair wait times but the shipping costs may be considerably less.
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I am currently using the Baum VarioUltra 40 with great success. However, the company is currently not producing this model, as it is in bankruptcy. I have heard great things about the Focus 40 fifth generation. It seems to be of great build quality. However, do be aware that it is made by VFO Group, a large company with which many blind people have issues due to its role as a corporate Goliath in the industry. I have little knowledge or experience with other displays currently on the market.

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Is there one in particular that you would recommend? Also, further to my previous question. What does everybody use for file management? Do you label your files in braille? Any tips or tricks that you have found make your lives a lot easier would be incredibly appreciated.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
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> Hello, most definitely a braille display.
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From GHardy at harrisbrun.com  Thu Jun  7 19:00:02 2018
From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:00:02 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Thu Jun  7 20:15:20 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:15:20 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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Graham:

Welcome to the list. I am eager to hear from more senior attorneys on these questions. Your mention of going to court with an assistant reminded me of something I have been meaning to discuss. 

Recently, Scott LaBarre, an attorney who runs his own practice, stated that he goes to court without a paralegal. I understand that doing this demonstrates the competence of blind attorneys. As a fairly new attorney, I am hesitant to go to court without an assistant for fear that I might have difficulty accessing a print document in the file that, for whatever reason, is not accessible from my computer. Although it should not occur, I worry that a document will be presented that I have not read prior to the hearing. Scott and others, how do you protect your client and yourself from this situation? I would not want my client to question my competence as an attorney because I am unable to access a hard copy or inaccessible electronic document at hearing. I have tried many apps and have not found a solution that allows accurate optical character recognition (OCR) on the go. Furthermore, I am not always able to read every electronic document that comes into my office because OCR can only do so much. As an attorney at a nonprofit law firm, I do not have access to staff who can proof documents and make them 100 percent accessible to a screen reader. As a proponent of both assistive technology and low-tech solutions such as a sighted reader, I would appreciate blind attorneys' thoughts on these issues. Many of my clients must travel from afar for administrative hearings and I would hate to have to postpone a proceeding due to accessibility issues. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.  

  
Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
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To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Graham Hardy <GHardy at harrisbrun.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com<mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com>
[Harris & Brun - Barristers & Solicitors]<http://www.harrisbrun.com/>

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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Thu Jun  7 20:36:17 2018
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:36:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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I have always gone to court with a sighted assistant.  Especially in trial courts it is very helpful in situations where the courtroom assignment has been changed, in dealing with the check in process, and as you mentioned in dealing with last-minute documents like tentative rulings, finding the date on a proof of service, or reviewing a stipulation.  I think you should do whatever you feel will give you the confidence that you are providing the best possible service to your client.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Graham:

Welcome to the list. I am eager to hear from more senior attorneys on these questions. Your mention of going to court with an assistant reminded me of something I have been meaning to discuss.

Recently, Scott LaBarre, an attorney who runs his own practice, stated that he goes to court without a paralegal. I understand that doing this demonstrates the competence of blind attorneys. As a fairly new attorney, I am hesitant to go to court without an assistant for fear that I might have difficulty accessing a print document in the file that, for whatever reason, is not accessible from my computer. Although it should not occur, I worry that a document will be presented that I have not read prior to the hearing. Scott and others, how do you protect your client and yourself from this situation? I would not want my client to question my competence as an attorney because I am unable to access a hard copy or inaccessible electronic document at hearing. I have tried many apps and have not found a solution that allows accurate optical character recognition (OCR) on the go. Furthermore, I am not always able to read every electronic document that comes into my office because OCR can only do so much. As an attorney at a nonprofit law firm, I do not have access to staff who can proof documents and make them 100 percent accessible to a screen reader. As a proponent of both assistive technology and low-tech solutions such as a sighted reader, I would appreciate blind attorneys' thoughts on these issues. Many of my clients must travel from afar for administrative hearings and I would hate to have to postpone a proceeding due to accessibility issues. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.


Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
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Cc: Graham Hardy <GHardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:GHardy at harrisbrun.com%3e>
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

Graham Hardy | Lawyer 604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com<mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com%3e>
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From NSingh at cov.com  Thu Jun  7 20:40:50 2018
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:40:50 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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My practice does not involve much stand up time. However, I will add that I work at a large firm, and an associate often accompanies a partner to court, to a meeting with the government, or to client development type activities. It may depend on the culture of the firm.

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Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 4:36 PM
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I have always gone to court with a sighted assistant.  Especially in trial courts it is very helpful in situations where the courtroom assignment has been changed, in dealing with the check in process, and as you mentioned in dealing with last-minute documents like tentative rulings, finding the date on a proof of service, or reviewing a stipulation.  I think you should do whatever you feel will give you the confidence that you are providing the best possible service to your client.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
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Graham:

Welcome to the list. I am eager to hear from more senior attorneys on these questions. Your mention of going to court with an assistant reminded me of something I have been meaning to discuss.

Recently, Scott LaBarre, an attorney who runs his own practice, stated that he goes to court without a paralegal. I understand that doing this demonstrates the competence of blind attorneys. As a fairly new attorney, I am hesitant to go to court without an assistant for fear that I might have difficulty accessing a print document in the file that, for whatever reason, is not accessible from my computer. Although it should not occur, I worry that a document will be presented that I have not read prior to the hearing. Scott and others, how do you protect your client and yourself from this situation? I would not want my client to question my competence as an attorney because I am unable to access a hard copy or inaccessible electronic document at hearing. I have tried many apps and have not found a solution that allows accurate optical character recognition (OCR) on the go. Furthermore, I am not always able to read every electronic document that comes into my office because OCR can only do so much. As an attorney at a nonprofit law firm, I do not have access to staff who can proof documents and make them 100 percent accessible to a screen reader. As a proponent of both assistive technology and low-tech solutions such as a sighted reader, I would appreciate blind attorneys' thoughts on these issues. Many of my clients must travel from afar for administrative hearings and I would hate to have to postpone a proceeding due to accessibility issues. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.


Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
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Cc: Graham Hardy <GHardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:GHardy at harrisbrun.com%3e>
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

Graham Hardy | Lawyer 604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com<mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com%3e>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Thu Jun  7 23:27:26 2018
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 23:27:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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My assistant is strictly ADA matters - our agency (county public defender, juvenile unit) uses Justware for our official file - a more ADA / WCAG non-compliant program probably could not be found, and it is difficult even for those who are fully sighted!  At any rate, my assistant - like our secretaries and paralegals - are strictly bound by the same confidentiality rules as the attorneys.  There is not an issue with that.

In terms of her role in court - I take my own notes, but she writes out next court date cards for clients, verifies availability for those proposed dates, reviews and reads to me any printed or handwritten materials that are given to me in court, observes the demeanor of judges, witnesses, and other participants in hearings (trust me, body language is a critical “tell” in criminal and delinquency matters), etc.  She also describes any photographic or pictorial or object-type evidence that the State introduces in trials - in short, she does those things that require actual vision, and communicates it to me.

Susan C L Kelly
Assistant Public Defender
Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
Ofc: 520-724-2994
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Graham:

Welcome to the list. I am eager to hear from more senior attorneys on these questions. Your mention of going to court with an assistant reminded me of something I have been meaning to discuss.

Recently, Scott LaBarre, an attorney who runs his own practice, stated that he goes to court without a paralegal. I understand that doing this demonstrates the competence of blind attorneys. As a fairly new attorney, I am hesitant to go to court without an assistant for fear that I might have difficulty accessing a print document in the file that, for whatever reason, is not accessible from my computer. Although it should not occur, I worry that a document will be presented that I have not read prior to the hearing. Scott and others, how do you protect your client and yourself from this situation? I would not want my client to question my competence as an attorney because I am unable to access a hard copy or inaccessible electronic document at hearing. I have tried many apps and have not found a solution that allows accurate optical character recognition (OCR) on the go. Furthermore, I am not always able to read every electronic document that comes into my office because OCR can only do so much. As an attorney at a nonprofit law firm, I do not have access to staff who can proof documents and make them 100 percent accessible to a screen reader. As a proponent of both assistive technology and low-tech solutions such as a sighted reader, I would appreciate blind attorneys' thoughts on these issues. Many of my clients must travel from afar for administrative hearings and I would hate to have to postpone a proceeding due to accessibility issues. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.


Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D.
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Staff Attorney



400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
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Cc: Graham Hardy <GHardy at harrisbrun.com<mailto:GHardy at harrisbrun.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com<mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com><mailto:ghardy at harrisbrun.com>
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  7 23:33:33 2018
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 19:33:33 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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Welcome to the list. Roanna Bacchus.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Graham Hardy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family, and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.
> 
> I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?
> 
> Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?
> 
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Jun  8 17:49:35 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 17:49:35 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Article: A loophole in federal law allows companies to
 pay disabled workers $1 an hour, Vox.com, May 3, 2018
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https://www.vox.com/2018/5/3/17307098/workers-disabilities-minimum-wage-waiver-rock-river-valley-self-help



A loophole in federal law allows companies to pay disabled workers $1 an hour: One nonprofit workshop paid them in gift cards.

Vox.com

May 3, 2018

By Alexia Fernández Campbell



Rock River Valley Self Help Enterprises, an Illinois nonprofit, billed itself as a vocational training program for people with disabilities. But it essentially operated as a subcontractor for local factories, providing menial tasks to workers with developmental disabilities, such as scraping debris from metal casts.



Last week, the Department of Labor took action against the company "after finding nearly 250 workers with disabilities were being exploited." One of the ways they were being exploited? Self Help paid some workers with gift cards instead of money.



The DOL's announcement underscores the grim employment landscape for many disabled workers. Several nonprofits, including one in Seattle, have recently been cited for underpaying workers with disabilities. But while Self Help's infractions are outrageous, it's also worth noting that federal law allows companies to provide less compensation to some workers with disabilities.



In addition to sometimes paying workers in gift cards, Self Help also paid them less than the minimum wage. Paying workers with disabilities in gift cards is unlawful; paying them a subminimum wage is legal. That's because current law allows employers to pay as little as $1 per hour, or less, to workers with disabilities if they can't perform a job as well as a person who is not disabled (the current federal minimum wage is $7.25). It's an exemption to the Fair Labor Standards Act that has been in place for 80 years.



Self Help had the exemption - but the DOL revoked that waiver after its investigation. In addition to finding that the nonprofit was paying workers with gift cards, the agency also noted that Self Help could not show proof that the disabled workers were not as productive as workers without disabilities, a requirement to get a waiver. And the DOL found that the company had tried to "mislead and obstruct ... by concealing relevant information" from the agency's investigation. The agency ordered Self Help to pay two years of back wages to more than 250 workers. The department did not say how much they were earning.



The incident underscores how the waiver program for workers with disabilities can be horribly misused. Giving employers permission to pay workers less seems to justify treating them differently in other ways. The workers at Self Help and their guardians knew they were allowed to receive less than the minimum wage, but they may not have realized that getting paid in gift cards is against the law.



There are about 153,030 workers with disabilities in the US who can be paid less than minimum wage under federal law, according to data from the Department of Labor. Some workers earn as little as 4 cents an hour.



In February, Alaska became the third state to ban the practice, and last week, a group of Democratic lawmakers, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), expressed concern about the potential abuses.



"These waivers are inherently discriminatory and should be phased out in a responsible way," they wrote in a letter Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta. "While the Department continues to issue these waivers, however, we are concerned by past abuses of the program and hope to better understand the extent to which the Department is able to prevent employers' mistreatment of and discrimination against workers with disabilities."



The 14(c) waiver created under the Fair Labor Standards Act was meant to help people with severe disabilities find meaningful work, but it has left many trapped in factory-type jobs with unlivable wages.



The US government has had low expectations for disabled Americans



In February, Alaska became the first red state to bar employers from paying workers with disabilities less than the state's $9.75 minimum wage. New Hampshire was the first state to do so in 2015, followed by Maryland in 2016. Paying sub-minimum wages to Americans with disabilities has been legal under federal law since 1938.



These recent changes highlight America's shifting views about the best way to help people with disabilities live their lives. Advocates for the disabled are pushing for services that focus on independence and integration over the isolation of mental institutions or segregated workshops. About 13 percent of Americans have mental or physical disabilities, and they are far less likely to work than the average American. Even so, 36 percent of Americans with disabilities had jobs in 2016 (among those who are working age and not living in institutions), according to a recent report from the Institute on Disability at the University of New Hampshire.



"There's been a real sea change," Robert Dinerstein, a law professor at American University and director of the school's Disability Rights Law Clinic, told Vox. "There used to be such low expectations of what someone with Down's syndrome could achieve."



Americans with disabilities were segregated for decades



For most of modern American history, politicians and doctors didn't really know what to do about - or for - people born with severe developmental disabilities. The widespread assumption was that they could not learn, work, or care for themselves.



The default solution was to isolate Americans with disabilities from the rest of the world, writes Samuel Bagenstos, a disability rights lawyer and law professor at the University of Michigan:



Children with significant disabilities received separate schooling, if they received schooling at all. As late as 1970, only a fifth of children with disabilities received public schooling; schools often simply excluded children with developmental disabilities as uneducable. As they grew to adulthood, individuals with developmental disabilities moved to state-run institutions that theoretically provided training and treatment, but in practice warehoused them.



Because lawmakers assumed Americans with disabilities would probably never work, Congress allowed businesses to pay them less than the minimum wage under the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938. The law basically said a business could pay workers with disabilities less than able-bodied workers to do menial tasks in a "workshop" environment with other workers with disabilities. The idea was that low-paid work was better than not having the option to work at all.



During the civil rights era, advocates began pushing back against this paternalistic, custodial attitude, which led to a series of laws mandating equal access and equal treatment for Americans with disabilities. The landmark Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 made it illegal for the first time for employers to discriminate against workers who had disabilities. While these changes made huge strides in allowing Americans with disabilities to lead normal lives, they didn't address the 1938 federal law that allows businesses to pay less than minimum wage in some cases.



The process can be easily manipulated



For an employer to hire a worker with a disability and pay them less than the minimum wage, they must first get permission from the Department of Labor. But they can only do so if they can show that the disability would prevent them from being hired at the minimum wage. That's a tricky thing to prove, and involves some strange calculations. One way is to test the worker's speed at completing a task compared to an able-bodied person.



For example, an employer that wants to hire a disabled person to make widgets must first find out what the local average wage is for a widget maker. Then they must find out how long it takes the average worker to make a widget and compare it to how long it takes the worker with a disability. If the average widget maker in Columbus, Ohio, makes a widget in 10 minutes for $9 an hour, but it takes disabled workers three times as long, then the employer can pay them a third of the rate: $3 an hour.



Employers are supposed to submit all the paperwork for these calculations when they apply for a certificate from the Department of Labor, but, as in the case of Self Help, employers don't always tell the truth. And it may only come up if the DOL decides to do an investigation, which is what happened in the case of Self Help.



"The employer attempted to mislead and obstruct [the Labor Department's] investigation by concealing relevant information from [the department] during the investigation, hiding work that the employer had not time studied but had the workers perform. On some weekends, Self Help unlawfully paid workers with gift cards instead of wages," according to a Labor Department announcement.



The Labor Department said it notified law enforcement officials about the case, but did not say if Self Help was accused of criminal activity.



Congress thought that lower wages would encourage hiring



When Congress passed the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, it created the exemption to encourage business to hire disabled workers, in hopes that it would lead to some level of independence and self-sufficiency. But the vast majority of workers in the federal program have jobs in sheltered workshops frequently run by nonprofits and isolated from the rest of society with little opportunity for advancement.



Jobs in segregated workplaces are exactly the kind that disability rights activists want to abolish - at least for the next generation of workers with disabilities, who now graduate from regular public schools and want to lead normal lives.



The workplace integration movement has pushed for "Employment First" initiatives in recent years, something many conservative and liberal states have adopted. These initiatives direct public service providers to focus on helping citizens with disabilities get regular jobs and live on their own, as opposed to more institutionalized care - getting a minimum wage job bagging groceries is considered far better than sorting recyclable trash in a sheltered environment with other workers with disabilities.



While the Employment First movement has picked up in recent years, it does pose new challenges in how providers should tailor job-training services for each person, says Dinerstein of American University. One approach has been to give workers a job coach, who goes to work with them during their first month on the job and helps them learn the ropes.



People with disabilities just want a chance to be independent, taxpaying, productive members of society, said Dinerstein. "If we don't do this, we are leaving them behind."


From tim at timeldermusic.com  Fri Jun  8 21:44:45 2018
From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:44:45 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member
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Brian,

Have we met before.  I'm also practicing in CA.  NFB of California will be
hosting its state convention in Los Angeles this October.  I'd love to meet
you in person down there.

Regards,
 

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Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

My practice does not involve much stand up time. However, I will add that I
work at a large firm, and an associate often accompanies a partner to court,
to a meeting with the government, or to client development type activities.
It may depend on the culture of the firm.

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via BlindLaw
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 4:36 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

I have always gone to court with a sighted assistant.  Especially in trial
courts it is very helpful in situations where the courtroom assignment has
been changed, in dealing with the check in process, and as you mentioned in
dealing with last-minute documents like tentative rulings, finding the date
on a proof of service, or reviewing a stipulation.  I think you should do
whatever you feel will give you the confidence that you are providing the
best possible service to your client.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
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Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
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Graham:

Welcome to the list. I am eager to hear from more senior attorneys on these
questions. Your mention of going to court with an assistant reminded me of
something I have been meaning to discuss.

Recently, Scott LaBarre, an attorney who runs his own practice, stated that
he goes to court without a paralegal. I understand that doing this
demonstrates the competence of blind attorneys. As a fairly new attorney, I
am hesitant to go to court without an assistant for fear that I might have
difficulty accessing a print document in the file that, for whatever reason,
is not accessible from my computer. Although it should not occur, I worry
that a document will be presented that I have not read prior to the hearing.
Scott and others, how do you protect your client and yourself from this
situation? I would not want my client to question my competence as an
attorney because I am unable to access a hard copy or inaccessible
electronic document at hearing. I have tried many apps and have not found a
solution that allows accurate optical character recognition (OCR) on the go.
Furthermore, I am not always able to read every electronic document that
comes into my office because OCR can only do so much. As an attorney at a
nonprofit law firm, I do not have access to staff who can proof documents
and make them 100 percent accessible to a screen reader. As a proponent of
both assistive technology and low-tech solutions such as a sighted reader, I
would appreciate blind attorneys' thoughts on these issues. Many of my
clients must travel from afar for administrative hearings and I would hate
to have to postpone a proceeding due to accessibility issues. Thank you in
advance for your thoughts.


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Subject: [blindlaw] Introduction from a new member

Hi everyone,

I am a new member to this list. I was called to the bar in British Columbia
in 2015. For the past several months I've been with a firm that does
insurance defence and subrogated insurance claims including motor vehicle
accidents, plaintiff-side personal injury, workers' compensation, family,
and employment. I am totally blind since birth. I hope to share some
knowledge with this list about succeeding in a law practice.

I have a couple of questions to start. I have an extremely supportive set of
lawyers and assistants at my firm, who as far as I can tell all want me to
succeed, and, for instance, I'm explicitly encouraged to take my paralegal
with me to court and to examinations for discovery (which I believe are
called depositions in America). My biggest concern is documents. I've found
I need to be excessively prepared with a knowledge of my files, and if I
plan ahead of time I can make notes in my files of the various sources of
information I can put to witnesses and exactly where it is in the file. I've
already run a trial and it worked fine for the most part, although in one
instance I miscommunicated with my paralegal, who didn't have a copy of the
document I actually wanted but had only one that looked very similar. But do
you have experience or tips for how to be the most effective?

Second, I'm becoming aware that there are blind people who either want to
become lawyers or are on their way to it, and obviously sighted lawyers who
have trouble understanding the potential of blind lawyers. I recognise I'm
lucky to be where I am and want to find opportunities to be visible and to
give back to the community. Being in court obviously achieves that
visibility. When I go to chambers (or motions practice) for an interlocutory
order, the courtroom is full of other lawyers who see my advocacy. I've also
recently been elected for a three-year term on the Provincial Council of the
Canadian Bar Association, which will hopefully be a good leadership
position. Is there anything else you can suggest for leadership that might
contribute to the legal profession for a junior lawyer?

Graham Hardy | Lawyer 604-608-2043 |
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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Sat Jun  9 19:32:43 2018
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:32:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Joining NABL?
Message-ID: <bc68c789-cdde-bf96-3ea7-f5729d15b8f3@gmail.com>

Hi,

The BlindLaw list website says you can join the National Association of 
Blind Lawyers by going to blindlawyer.org, but when I try that website, 
nothing shows up. Is there another way?


KSC





From glnorman15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 10 18:39:53 2018
From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:39:53 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Policy Salons in Baltimore
Message-ID: <DM5PR14MB151553755BF32764BC98211ED1790@DM5PR14MB1515.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

>From G. Norman


Join Bowie and me at one of my, or at both of my, salons occurring within this fortnight.  From time-to-time, these occur serving as a social plaza for connecting diverse ideas and persons.  The partnership of interesting, diverse, leaders flatter me, including, but not limited to, Ms. Hamilton, Esq.



  1.  June 20 at 5:15 P.M. I will co-host a salon, focused on dispute resolution, with Louise and with Deborah.  This will occur at the hotel - Double Tree - on U. Parkway in Baltimore City.



  1.  On June 21 at 6:30 P.M. The Animal Law Section of the Maryland State Bar Association will sponsor, and I will host, a salon focused on animal law and policy as well as on civil rights law and policy.  We intend this to highlight the impact of animals and civil rights on our lives, including, service animals.  This will occur at the Pratt Street Ale House.  (Originally, we planned this to occur at the hotel, but its location was moved to the tavern.)


From glnorman15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 10 18:51:27 2018
From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:51:27 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Dialogue Process in Boston on the C.R.P.D.
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The Promise and Realities of Human Rights for All
Alumni Action Dialogues


A Conversation on Disability Access in the Global Era
July 26, 2018 at the Non-profit Center of Boston


Want a great way to celebrate the promise of the Americans with Disabilities Act, while learning of its connection to the global stage?
Gary C. Norman (AMMF 2008) and Kerry Thompson (AMMF 2014) shall co-host and co-facilitate the next of their dialogues on community integration.  They do so under the auspices of an Alumni Action project at the German Marshall Fund of the U.S.
These two leaders with disabilities, who have a foot print in Trans-Atlantic relations with a focus on community integration, will explore the mutually supportive roles of the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities and access improvements at home, and how our partnership in law and in culture, builds a global inclusive community.  Attendees will depart with their awareness raised on these issues as well as the promise in the Trans-Atlantic for emerging unique leaders.
Reservations should be promptly submitted to Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. at (410) 241-6745.


From sbg at sbgaal.com  Sun Jun 10 22:43:31 2018
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:43:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say connected
 but no audio from computer using jaws
Message-ID: <000301d4010c$757d0570$60771050$@sbgaal.com>

Hello Group,

I just purchased the aftershocks wireless headphones yesterday.  Yesterday,
they worked perfectly.  Today, I turned them on and they said they were
connected, but could not hear jaws or any audio.  My husband is sighted and
he said the mute on the computer is not on and he tried uninstalling the
device and driver and reinstalling and still same result, no audio.  Another
weird thing is when I gave up and tried to plug in my wired earphones jaws
didn't come through them; just through the computer speakers like I didn't
have them plugged in.  Has anyone ever encountered this?  any suggestions.
My computer is a Lenova lap top think pad running Windows 7 and Jaws 17.

Thanks for any help!

 

Sincerely,

 

Shannon Brady Geihsler

 

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

1001 Main St., Suite 803

Lubbock, Texas 79401

Office:  (806) 763-3999

Mobile:  (806) 781-9296

Fax:  (806) 749-3752

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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 22:49:04 2018
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:49:04 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say
 connected but no audio from computer using jaws
In-Reply-To: <000301d4010c$757d0570$60771050$@sbgaal.com>
References: <000301d4010c$757d0570$60771050$@sbgaal.com>
Message-ID: <004401d4010d$3c4d5290$b4e7f7b0$@gmail.com>

Hi,

Is it possible that the computer has selected the wrong audio device. Use
Windows+B to navigate to the system tray, select the icon that displays your
sound volume and activate the context menu with either the Applications key
or Shift+F10. Select playback devices and make sure it's selected.
Otherwise, you could try having the computer forget the headphones and then
re-pair them. I hope that helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via
BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:44 PM
To: BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say connected
but no audio from computer using jaws

Hello Group,

I just purchased the aftershocks wireless headphones yesterday.  Yesterday,
they worked perfectly.  Today, I turned them on and they said they were
connected, but could not hear jaws or any audio.  My husband is sighted and
he said the mute on the computer is not on and he tried uninstalling the
device and driver and reinstalling and still same result, no audio.  Another
weird thing is when I gave up and tried to plug in my wired earphones jaws
didn't come through them; just through the computer speakers like I didn't
have them plugged in.  Has anyone ever encountered this?  any suggestions.
My computer is a Lenova lap top think pad running Windows 7 and Jaws 17.

Thanks for any help!

 

Sincerely,

 

Shannon Brady Geihsler

 

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

1001 Main St., Suite 803

Lubbock, Texas 79401

Office:  (806) 763-3999

Mobile:  (806) 781-9296

Fax:  (806) 749-3752

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Sun Jun 10 23:24:21 2018
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:24:21 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say
 connected but no audio from computer using jaws
In-Reply-To: <004401d4010d$3c4d5290$b4e7f7b0$@gmail.com>
References: <000301d4010c$757d0570$60771050$@sbgaal.com>
	<004401d4010d$3c4d5290$b4e7f7b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801d40112$29955a80$7cc00f80$@sbgaal.com>

Thanks so much!!!  I had to go to blue tooth headphones and not only select
it, but also put it as the defeault.

You are awesome!

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1001 Main St., Suite 803
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 5:49 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Aser Tolentino
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say
connected but no audio from computer using jaws

Hi,

Is it possible that the computer has selected the wrong audio device. Use
Windows+B to navigate to the system tray, select the icon that displays your
sound volume and activate the context menu with either the Applications key
or Shift+F10. Select playback devices and make sure it's selected.
Otherwise, you could try having the computer forget the headphones and then
re-pair them. I hope that helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via
BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:44 PM
To: BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say connected
but no audio from computer using jaws

Hello Group,

I just purchased the aftershocks wireless headphones yesterday.  Yesterday,
they worked perfectly.  Today, I turned them on and they said they were
connected, but could not hear jaws or any audio.  My husband is sighted and
he said the mute on the computer is not on and he tried uninstalling the
device and driver and reinstalling and still same result, no audio.  Another
weird thing is when I gave up and tried to plug in my wired earphones jaws
didn't come through them; just through the computer speakers like I didn't
have them plugged in.  Has anyone ever encountered this?  any suggestions.
My computer is a Lenova lap top think pad running Windows 7 and Jaws 17.

Thanks for any help!

 

Sincerely,

 

Shannon Brady Geihsler

 

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

1001 Main St., Suite 803

Lubbock, Texas 79401

Office:  (806) 763-3999

Mobile:  (806) 781-9296

Fax:  (806) 749-3752

E-Mail:   <mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com> sbg at sbgaal.com

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From derekjdittmar at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 23:26:34 2018
From: derekjdittmar at gmail.com (Derek Dittmar)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 19:26:34 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
Message-ID: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>

Good evening,
I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
relying entirely on the tech.
Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
anything else anyone would be able to share.
If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
your convenience.
Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
Derek J. Dittmar
Campbell Law School
Raleigh, North Carolina
derekjdittmar at gmail.com


From GHardy at harrisbrun.com  Sun Jun 10 23:56:00 2018
From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:56:00 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
In-Reply-To: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE22714@HBSERVER.HB.local>

Hi Derek,

I've never had success with anything to recognise handwritten text, so no advice there, I'm afraid. I personally enjoy tremendous success with ABBYY FineReader, which converts text into formats such as Word and Excel, and even has advanced features (that might require sighted assistance) involving breaking the page up into predetermined areas of interest, such as forms that are always printed a certain way. Unfortunately I've never been successful with any of those cameras that sit over the top, which is a shame. You can often make out enough of a document to get the jist of it but, in a legal sense, clearly you're not in good shape if paragraph numbers aren't coming through properly. But the ScanSnap iX500 that I use, which scans something like 25 double-sided sheets a minute, is fairly small. If you have constraints involving electricity, I believe there are even wireless models with batteries. In fact, I understand you can use modern scanners over a wireless connection with an iPhone, and would likely be able to get documents imported into knfbReader or even Seeing AI.

As for a dog in a courtroom, is there anything in particular that comes up? I've never had an issue


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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:27 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Derek Dittmar
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense

Good evening,
I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
relying entirely on the tech.
Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
anything else anyone would be able to share.
If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
your convenience.
Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
Derek J. Dittmar
Campbell Law School
Raleigh, North Carolina
derekjdittmar at gmail.com

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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 01:45:44 2018
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:45:44 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
In-Reply-To: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE22714@HBSERVER.HB.local>
References: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE22714@HBSERVER.HB.local>
Message-ID: <9181B799-E33A-440E-9FB8-71C90FB9E99D@gmail.com>

Graham,

Any chance you could send a link to specs and cost of that software and scanner?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Graham Hardy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Derek,
> 
> I've never had success with anything to recognise handwritten text, so no advice there, I'm afraid. I personally enjoy tremendous success with ABBYY FineReader, which converts text into formats such as Word and Excel, and even has advanced features (that might require sighted assistance) involving breaking the page up into predetermined areas of interest, such as forms that are always printed a certain way. Unfortunately I've never been successful with any of those cameras that sit over the top, which is a shame. You can often make out enough of a document to get the jist of it but, in a legal sense, clearly you're not in good shape if paragraph numbers aren't coming through properly. But the ScanSnap iX500 that I use, which scans something like 25 double-sided sheets a minute, is fairly small. If you have constraints involving electricity, I believe there are even wireless models with batteries. In fact, I understand you can use modern scanners over a wireless connection with an iPhone, and would likely be able to get documents imported into knfbReader or even Seeing AI.
> 
> As for a dog in a courtroom, is there anything in particular that comes up? I've never had an issue
> 
> 
> Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com 
> 
> 
> HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION - Barristers & Solicitors
> 500 - 555 West Georgia  Vancouver  BC  V6B 1Z6
> Phone: 604-683-2466   Fax: 604-683-4541   www.harrisbrun.com
> 
> 
> This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy.
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:27 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Derek Dittmar
> Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
> 
> Good evening,
> I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
> the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
> defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
> our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
> information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
> Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
> relying entirely on the tech.
> Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
> methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
> internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
> and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
> preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
> methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
> recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
> anything else anyone would be able to share.
> If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
> your convenience.
> Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
> Derek J. Dittmar
> Campbell Law School
> Raleigh, North Carolina
> derekjdittmar at gmail.com
> 
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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 11 02:32:17 2018
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:32:17 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
In-Reply-To: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010501d4012c$6b6ecf80$424c6e80$@sbcglobal.net>

Derek:

I have been licensed 34 years. My first 3 years were as a prosecutor, the following 21 years as a criminal defense trial attorney. I am glad to talk with you. I am full tomorrow, but should have time Tuesday onward.

I would, also, recommend contacting Shannon Giestler, a fine criminal defense attorney in Lubbock, Texas. I cannot think of a better person than Shannon to talk with.

Daniel McBride
Fort Worth, Texas
817-847-0023

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:27 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Derek Dittmar
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense

Good evening,
I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
relying entirely on the tech.
Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
anything else anyone would be able to share.
If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
your convenience.
Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
Derek J. Dittmar
Campbell Law School
Raleigh, North Carolina
derekjdittmar at gmail.com

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Mon Jun 11 02:45:27 2018
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:45:27 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
In-Reply-To: <010501d4012c$6b6ecf80$424c6e80$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
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Shannon Brady Geihsler
Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler,PLLC
1001 Main Street, Suite 803
Lubbock, Texas 79401 
Phone:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Derek:
> 
> I have been licensed 34 years. My first 3 years were as a prosecutor, the following 21 years as a criminal defense trial attorney. I am glad to talk with you. I am full tomorrow, but should have time Tuesday onward.
> 
> I would, also, recommend contacting Shannon Giestler, a fine criminal defense attorney in Lubbock, Texas. I cannot think of a better person than Shannon to talk with.
> 
> Daniel McBride
> Fort Worth, Texas
> 817-847-0023
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:27 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Derek Dittmar
> Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
> 
> Good evening,
> I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
> the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
> defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
> our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
> information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
> Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
> relying entirely on the tech.
> Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
> methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
> internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
> and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
> preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
> methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
> recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
> anything else anyone would be able to share.
> If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
> your convenience.
> Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
> Derek J. Dittmar
> Campbell Law School
> Raleigh, North Carolina
> derekjdittmar at gmail.com
> 
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Mon Jun 11 03:05:47 2018
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon Geihsler)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:05:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
In-Reply-To: <010501d4012c$6b6ecf80$424c6e80$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CAFxmAdD-ur4PLeSkHJLBn=Rb3=PD6VWUc6OjnGjRMWU_87aeSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<010501d4012c$6b6ecf80$424c6e80$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <335D15B9-50E3-41E5-B7FC-32B61D9A9912@sbgaal.com>

Hi Derek,thanks Dan! Sorry  my first response didn’t go through correctly.  I’d be happy to talk to you.  Try me tomorrow afternoon.
Take care

Shannon Brady Geihsler
Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler,PLLC
1001 Main Street, Suite 803
Lubbock, Texas 79401 
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> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Derek:
> 
> I have been licensed 34 years. My first 3 years were as a prosecutor, the following 21 years as a criminal defense trial attorney. I am glad to talk with you. I am full tomorrow, but should have time Tuesday onward.
> 
> I would, also, recommend contacting Shannon Giestler, a fine criminal defense attorney in Lubbock, Texas. I cannot think of a better person than Shannon to talk with.
> 
> Daniel McBride
> Fort Worth, Texas
> 817-847-0023
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:27 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Derek Dittmar
> Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
> 
> Good evening,
> I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
> the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
> defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
> our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
> information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
> Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
> relying entirely on the tech.
> Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
> methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
> internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
> and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
> preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
> methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
> recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
> anything else anyone would be able to share.
> If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
> your convenience.
> Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
> Derek J. Dittmar
> Campbell Law School
> Raleigh, North Carolina
> derekjdittmar at gmail.com
> 
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From rodalcidonis at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 03:23:01 2018
From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:23:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say
 connected but no audio from computer using jaws
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Message-ID: <001822AAC43E413292EFECC824BA0479@RVenue>

Shannon

Look under your sound control to assure that the headset is not improperly 
being routed to somewhere else. If you press your windows key and type the 
word sound, it should come up. Look at the properties for each devices to 
see if they are configured correctly. Secondly, under your JAWS sound cart 
option, set JAWS to use the headset by default and see what happen.




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To: BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Shannon
Subject: [blindlaw] [tek-talk] wireless aftershocks headphones say connected 
but no audio from computer using jaws

Hello Group,

I just purchased the aftershocks wireless headphones yesterday.  Yesterday,
they worked perfectly.  Today, I turned them on and they said they were
connected, but could not hear jaws or any audio.  My husband is sighted and
he said the mute on the computer is not on and he tried uninstalling the
device and driver and reinstalling and still same result, no audio.  Another
weird thing is when I gave up and tried to plug in my wired earphones jaws
didn't come through them; just through the computer speakers like I didn't
have them plugged in.  Has anyone ever encountered this?  any suggestions.
My computer is a Lenova lap top think pad running Windows 7 and Jaws 17.

Thanks for any help!



Sincerely,



Shannon Brady Geihsler



Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC

1001 Main St., Suite 803

Lubbock, Texas 79401

Office:  (806) 763-3999

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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Mon Jun 11 15:24:17 2018
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:24:17 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
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Derek -

Sorry I haven’t gotten back to you yet - will try today and will e-mail you off-list.

Susan C L Kelly
Assistant Public Defender
Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
Ofc: 520-724-2994
Fax: 520-770-4168

On Jun 10, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

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Good evening,
I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
relying entirely on the tech.
Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
anything else anyone would be able to share.
If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
your convenience.
Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
Derek J. Dittmar
Campbell Law School
Raleigh, North Carolina
derekjdittmar at gmail.com<mailto:derekjdittmar at gmail.com>

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From GHardy at harrisbrun.com  Mon Jun 11 16:36:08 2018
From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:36:08 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
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Hi Kelby,

The manufacturer's information is at http://www.fujitsu.com/ca/en/products/computing/peripheral/scanners/scansnap/ix500/. When I looked, I will say I couldn't immediately find which of their scanners, if any, has rechargeable batteries.


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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of kelby carlson via BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:46 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense

Graham,

Any chance you could send a link to specs and cost of that software and scanner?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Graham Hardy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Derek,
> 
> I've never had success with anything to recognise handwritten text, so no advice there, I'm afraid. I personally enjoy tremendous success with ABBYY FineReader, which converts text into formats such as Word and Excel, and even has advanced features (that might require sighted assistance) involving breaking the page up into predetermined areas of interest, such as forms that are always printed a certain way. Unfortunately I've never been successful with any of those cameras that sit over the top, which is a shame. You can often make out enough of a document to get the jist of it but, in a legal sense, clearly you're not in good shape if paragraph numbers aren't coming through properly. But the ScanSnap iX500 that I use, which scans something like 25 double-sided sheets a minute, is fairly small. If you have constraints involving electricity, I believe there are even wireless models with batteries. In fact, I understand you can use modern scanners over a wireless connection with an iPhone, and would likely be able to get documents imported into knfbReader or even Seeing AI.
> 
> As for a dog in a courtroom, is there anything in particular that comes up? I've never had an issue
> 
> 
> Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com 
> 
> 
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> 500 - 555 West Georgia  Vancouver  BC  V6B 1Z6
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:27 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Derek Dittmar
> Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
> 
> Good evening,
> I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
> the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
> defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
> our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
> information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
> Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
> relying entirely on the tech.
> Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
> methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
> internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
> and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
> preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
> methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
> recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
> anything else anyone would be able to share.
> If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
> your convenience.
> Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
> Derek J. Dittmar
> Campbell Law School
> Raleigh, North Carolina
> derekjdittmar at gmail.com
> 
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 17:15:34 2018
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:45:34 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Legal provisions/ reasonable accommodations to enable
 blind lawyers to thrive
Message-ID: <CADFycPbiNPss1iJdNLt5sfQdovgAR0POkEYFFOrLpBR1g-6y2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I am exploring the possibility of filing a lawsuit to ensure greater
access to case records/courtrooms  for blind lawyers here in India.
This being so, learning about the best practices that are adopted in
the US will help me a great deal in this endeavour. In this regard,
I'd be grateful if someone could help me understand how blind lawyers
operate in the American legal system in the following specific areas:

A. What is the primary means by which case records are made accessible
to blind lawyers in the US. More specifically, if a given courtroom
operates entirely on paper, then are opposing counsel/ court staff
required to ensure that whatever  filings that are made are served to
a blind lawyer in soft copy, or is this entirely the responsibility of
the blind lawyer concerned? Would requiring opposing counsel to make
all their filings in soft copy/ scan their hard copy submissions be
considered a reasonable accommodation or an undue burden? What if this
obligation were cast on the concerned court and not the opposite
lawyer?
B. Are there any policies that courts in the US have adopted to
accommodate law clerks/ legal interns who are blind, or is assistance
provided to them on an ad-hoc basis?
C. How are blind lawyers able to identify a particular courtroom in a
court complex and distinguish one courtroom from the other?
D. Are blind lawyers allowed to use screen reading technology in
courtrooms, say during oral argument? If there is a prohibition on the
use of technology in courtrooms, has an exception been carved out to
make this permissible?
E. Are there any other provisions that exist in American law for the
benefit of blind lawyers/ litigants?


Your inputs would be invaluable as I work on this application. Feel
free to write me off-list if that is more convenient. Please answer as
much portion of the above questions as you are able to, if you have
time constraints. Thank you.

Best,
Rahul


From rene0373 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 18:16:28 2018
From: rene0373 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rene)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:16:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility issues in criminal public defense
Message-ID: <17631659-760A-4EC9-97B5-242DE5AF8E28@gmail.com>

Hi Derek, Daniel and Shannon,
Daniel and Shannon, may I call you too?
I’ve been admitted to practice in Washington since 1980 and am going back into court after a long time in office practice. I’ll be taking private clients for the first time, and would especially be interested to know how gender matters might be safely handled in  criminal defense  as a blind lawyer. Thanks. 
Derek, I was an assistant prosecuting attorney in Seattle for nine years when I started out, and was in court with my guide dog all the time in municipal, superior, and appellate courts. My dogs became a local institution. The judges said they had more sense about how to behave in court and how to judge character than most of the lawyers there. When or two lawyers tried to get my dogs excluded from the courtroom because juries might like the dogs better than themselves, but just ended up looking bad. They lost their motions. All in all, when I started out, I had more to worry about from misogyny than from discrimination against my dogs or against me because of blindness (although I can’t say that never happened). Washington Supreme Court justices who practiced with me back in the 80s still tell stories about being called Honey all the time. I had to be quite direct with police detectives, older judges would sometimes bully me, and men would plunk down beside me in restaurants and ask if I did rape trials.  Where I went to law school, pregnant women weren’t allowed to appear in court at all. But I digress.…
I do almost all of my work now on an iPad. I’ve just installed the KNFB reader, and expect that to be a great help. I keep confidential files in PDF Expert, which has its own build-in speech utility, and in BOX, which works pretty well with VoiceOver. I use Dropbox all the time to send attachments.
In court, if I needed something described, such as a photo, an accident scene diagram, etc., I would insist that the witness verbalize everything for the record, pointing out to the court that there needed to be a verbal memorial of what was in evidence for purposes of the transcript in case of appeal.
I knew my criminal codes, rules of court, and evidence rules cold, and kept up with the advance sheets weekly, having a ready memory of the most important cases to cite in court. I wrote and argued appeals all the time too, which made that memory task a lot easier than it might have been otherwise.
I think the best advice that I could give to a new lawyer, blind or sighted, would be to urge that he or she be as courteous to judges and to court staff as possible, and to opposing counsel, without being a pushover. Incivility is the best way to get people to let you sink.
Good luck with your internship and with getting hired as a public defender.


Elizabeth M René 
Attorney at Law 
WSBA #10710 
KCBA #21824
rene0373 at gmail.com

From sbg at sbgaal.com  Mon Jun 11 21:07:30 2018
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:07:30 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility issues in criminal public defense
In-Reply-To: <17631659-760A-4EC9-97B5-242DE5AF8E28@gmail.com>
References: <17631659-760A-4EC9-97B5-242DE5AF8E28@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c801d401c8$35d7d050$a18770f0$@sbgaal.com>

Hi Elizabeth,

You are welcome to call me.  I am female and haven't really as far as my clients are concerned, had any issues on account of gender.
Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1001 Main St., Suite 803
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 1:16 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Elizabeth Rene
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility issues in criminal public defense

Hi Derek, Daniel and Shannon,
Daniel and Shannon, may I call you too?
I’ve been admitted to practice in Washington since 1980 and am going back into court after a long time in office practice. I’ll be taking private clients for the first time, and would especially be interested to know how gender matters might be safely handled in  criminal defense  as a blind lawyer. Thanks. 
Derek, I was an assistant prosecuting attorney in Seattle for nine years when I started out, and was in court with my guide dog all the time in municipal, superior, and appellate courts. My dogs became a local institution. The judges said they had more sense about how to behave in court and how to judge character than most of the lawyers there. When or two lawyers tried to get my dogs excluded from the courtroom because juries might like the dogs better than themselves, but just ended up looking bad. They lost their motions. All in all, when I started out, I had more to worry about from misogyny than from discrimination against my dogs or against me because of blindness (although I can’t say that never happened). Washington Supreme Court justices who practiced with me back in the 80s still tell stories about being called Honey all the time. I had to be quite direct with police detectives, older judges would sometimes bully me, and men would plunk down beside me in restaurants and ask if I did rape trials.  Where I went to law school, pregnant women weren’t allowed to appear in court at all. But I digress.…
I do almost all of my work now on an iPad. I’ve just installed the KNFB reader, and expect that to be a great help. I keep confidential files in PDF Expert, which has its own build-in speech utility, and in BOX, which works pretty well with VoiceOver. I use Dropbox all the time to send attachments.
In court, if I needed something described, such as a photo, an accident scene diagram, etc., I would insist that the witness verbalize everything for the record, pointing out to the court that there needed to be a verbal memorial of what was in evidence for purposes of the transcript in case of appeal.
I knew my criminal codes, rules of court, and evidence rules cold, and kept up with the advance sheets weekly, having a ready memory of the most important cases to cite in court. I wrote and argued appeals all the time too, which made that memory task a lot easier than it might have been otherwise.
I think the best advice that I could give to a new lawyer, blind or sighted, would be to urge that he or she be as courteous to judges and to court staff as possible, and to opposing counsel, without being a pushover. Incivility is the best way to get people to let you sink.
Good luck with your internship and with getting hired as a public defender.


Elizabeth M René 
Attorney at Law 
WSBA #10710 
KCBA #21824
rene0373 at gmail.com
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From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 12 00:16:08 2018
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (Daniel McBride)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 19:16:08 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessibility issues in criminal public defense
In-Reply-To: <17631659-760A-4EC9-97B5-242DE5AF8E28@gmail.com>
References: <17631659-760A-4EC9-97B5-242DE5AF8E28@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015f01d401e2$90578b00$b106a100$@sbcglobal.net>

Elizabeth:

You are welcome to call me anytime, seven days a week, between 8am to 8pm central time. Without requesting it, anyone on this listserve is free to call me as stated above.

I doubt that I have anything of real value to offer anyone, but I am always open to all on this list for what I might have to offer.

Daniel McBride
Fort Worth, Texas

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 1:16 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Elizabeth Rene
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility issues in criminal public defense

Hi Derek, Daniel and Shannon,
Daniel and Shannon, may I call you too?
I’ve been admitted to practice in Washington since 1980 and am going back into court after a long time in office practice. I’ll be taking private clients for the first time, and would especially be interested to know how gender matters might be safely handled in  criminal defense  as a blind lawyer. Thanks. 
Derek, I was an assistant prosecuting attorney in Seattle for nine years when I started out, and was in court with my guide dog all the time in municipal, superior, and appellate courts. My dogs became a local institution. The judges said they had more sense about how to behave in court and how to judge character than most of the lawyers there. When or two lawyers tried to get my dogs excluded from the courtroom because juries might like the dogs better than themselves, but just ended up looking bad. They lost their motions. All in all, when I started out, I had more to worry about from misogyny than from discrimination against my dogs or against me because of blindness (although I can’t say that never happened). Washington Supreme Court justices who practiced with me back in the 80s still tell stories about being called Honey all the time. I had to be quite direct with police detectives, older judges would sometimes bully me, and men would plunk down beside me in restaurants and ask if I did rape trials.  Where I went to law school, pregnant women weren’t allowed to appear in court at all. But I digress.…
I do almost all of my work now on an iPad. I’ve just installed the KNFB reader, and expect that to be a great help. I keep confidential files in PDF Expert, which has its own build-in speech utility, and in BOX, which works pretty well with VoiceOver. I use Dropbox all the time to send attachments.
In court, if I needed something described, such as a photo, an accident scene diagram, etc., I would insist that the witness verbalize everything for the record, pointing out to the court that there needed to be a verbal memorial of what was in evidence for purposes of the transcript in case of appeal.
I knew my criminal codes, rules of court, and evidence rules cold, and kept up with the advance sheets weekly, having a ready memory of the most important cases to cite in court. I wrote and argued appeals all the time too, which made that memory task a lot easier than it might have been otherwise.
I think the best advice that I could give to a new lawyer, blind or sighted, would be to urge that he or she be as courteous to judges and to court staff as possible, and to opposing counsel, without being a pushover. Incivility is the best way to get people to let you sink.
Good luck with your internship and with getting hired as a public defender.


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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 02:39:30 2018
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (Sybren Hoekstra)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:39:30 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] accessibility issues in public criminal defense
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It seems like you have gotten plenty of responses, but I am also in a public defense role, and would be willing to talk. Though I have not been doing it for very long, I have been working in various capacities in quarts for a few years now, and have had to deal with inaccessible records a lot. You can let me know what times would be best for you to talk if you want to.

Sy

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> On Jun 10, 2018, at 19:26, Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening,
> I’m interning this summer at the county Public Defender’s office under
> the third year practice rule.  Since I want to go into criminal
> defense advocacy, I was excited for the opportunity.  However, since
> our county has not transitioned to paperless records, all of the
> information about my clients is in print.  I’ve tried scanning with
> Seeing AI, but there are too many errors for me to feel comfortable
> relying entirely on the tech.
> Is there anyone on the list that would be willing to share their
> methods for accessing client information in a timely manner?  While my
> internship ends in about seven weeks, I’d like to work in this county,
> and would appreciate any assistance.  Specifically I’m curious about
> preferred technology for court (I currently use laptop with JAWS);
> methods for accessing both typed and handwritten records;
> recommendations on courtroom advocacy with a service animal; and
> anything else anyone would be able to share.
> If a phone call is easier, I'd be happy to make myself available at
> your convenience.
> Thank you, and I appreciate this list.  Great to not feel so alone!
> Derek J. Dittmar
> Campbell Law School
> Raleigh, North Carolina
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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue Jun 12 03:33:55 2018
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 03:33:55 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
Message-ID: <eda700b22f0e40798846d4f08660fe81@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki

From amatney at loeb.com  Tue Jun 12 12:48:32 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 12:48:32 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
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Nikki, I have experienced these issues with Jaws 18. I haven't used 2018 enough to know first-hand, but it sounds like they are still problems in 2018. In 18, my find command would work once or twice and then stop working. I haven't contacted FS about these issues because it just seemed easier to keep using JAWS 17, but I freely admit this is probably not the best long-term approach.

I also don't like how newer versions of JAWS read the first row or column of a table as if it contains header information. Maybe there's a way to turn that setting off--again, I have tended to take the easy way out and use JAWS 17.

Angie



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this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Jun 12 14:54:07 2018
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:54:07 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
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I have been experiencing multiple issues as well, but at least for me, it appears related to the same network issues that are going on for years - the county IT that provides services to our agency refuses to make any allowances in the profiles of those who use assistive technology, and both the security program and other apps (as well as ancient, unused information still in the boot-up) fight screen narrators and magnification programs.

Susan C L Kelly
Assistant Public Defender
Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
Ofc: 520-724-2994
Fax: 520-770-4168

On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

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this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Tue Jun 12 16:15:06 2018
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:15:06 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
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Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.

Best,

Brian
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this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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From ttomasi at driowa.org  Tue Jun 12 21:37:26 2018
From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:37:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Disability Rights Oregon is Seeking an Executive Director
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For more than four decades, Disability Rights Oregon has served as our state's Protection & Advocacy agency. The impact that it's had promoting and defending the rights of Oregonians with disabilities has been remarkable.  Three out of those four decades have seen Executive Director Bob Joondeph leading these efforts.  He is now retiring and we are looking for some to fill his venerable shoes.

With his upcoming departure, we are currently seeking a new Executive Director to lead the organization by building on its past success and charting a course toward an even more promising future.

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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue Jun 12 23:29:26 2018
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:29:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
Message-ID: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>

I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?

I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
To: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi,

I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
You've got me curious to try this out.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?

From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.

Best,

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au  Tue Jun 12 23:35:42 2018
From: p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au (Paul Harpur)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:35:42 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
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If anyone has an answer please share it as I too have problems with track changes and it is a massive pain.


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Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes

I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?

I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
To: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi,

I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
You've got me curious to try this out.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?

From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.

Best,

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From GHardy at harrisbrun.com  Tue Jun 12 23:42:02 2018
From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:42:02 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
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	<SYXPR01MB20637B0AD2B90CCB3CF6166C987F0@SYXPR01MB2063.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
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I understand how tracked changes are supposed to work and I can use them, but there are plenty of bugs. If you use a Braille display, the cursor position is almost always inaccurate surrounding track changes. (The same is true with numbered lists and various cross-reference fields and is dreadful with autonumbered lists such as one uses for exhibit identifiers in affidavits.) Further, inserting comments sometimes causes JAWS to freeze or to stop interacting with a document until both JAWS and Word are restarted. Whatever Freedom Scientific have done with this feature, they clearly haven't tested it very well.


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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Track Changes

If anyone has an answer please share it as I too have problems with track changes and it is a massive pain.


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Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes

I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?

I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
To: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi,

I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
You've got me curious to try this out.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?

From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.

Best,

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From amatney at loeb.com  Tue Jun 12 23:47:05 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:47:05 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
In-Reply-To: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
References: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <BF6DA88D-C2DA-4EB2-AF09-D7D0D0A3959A@loeb.com>

Nicki,

I have found JAWS support for track changes to be iffy at best. As ind as it is to believe, I think you can safely say there's no fool-proof way to do this nonvisually.

Having said that, there are some work-arounds. I would imagine your firm has software like Workshare, CompareDocs, or something similar. I have found that generating redlines with one of these software packages works much better for me than trying to use track changes. I whink this is because of the way JAWS was designed to treat track changes. I think it might be better if JAWS simply gave us color and font information and let us interprt what it means. This is similar to the output you get with one of the software packages I just mentioned.

Depending on your setup, the process of creating the redline may or may not be accessible. If you can't do it directly, your assistant (or someone in your word processing or similar department) may be able to help.

As for editing, I generally edit with track-changes off and then use the "compare" feature built into Word to produce a document that looks like it was created with track changes. But the comparison sofgware applications I mentioned earlier can do this too.

Sorry if this post is disjointed, I am in the middle of something. But I wanted to answer this while it was fresh in my mind. I'm happy to discuss if that would be helpful.

I'm also interested to see what techniques others use.


Angie


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> On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>
> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?
>
> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
> You've got me curious to try this out.
>
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>
> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
> To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?
>
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Hi Nikki,
>
> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.
>
> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.
>
> Best,
>
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
>
> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Nikki
>

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From sy.hoekstra at gmail.com  Wed Jun 13 03:27:50 2018
From: sy.hoekstra at gmail.com (sy.hoekstra at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:27:50 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
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I don't have that issue with inserting comments.  I also don't think that
using the JAWS features with track changes are all that bad, given how
difficultthose kinds of shared editing tasks are to do with screen readers.

Also, I believe you can set JAWS to announce changes in font such as color
or strike-through. I don't know how to do it myself, but I think someone
here has discussed it previously. I think you can jump between changes in
font color or whatever by messing with the text analyzer settings maybe?

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BlindLaw
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Track Changes

I understand how tracked changes are supposed to work and I can use them,
but there are plenty of bugs. If you use a Braille display, the cursor
position is almost always inaccurate surrounding track changes. (The same is
true with numbered lists and various cross-reference fields and is dreadful
with autonumbered lists such as one uses for exhibit identifiers in
affidavits.) Further, inserting comments sometimes causes JAWS to freeze or
to stop interacting with a document until both JAWS and Word are restarted.
Whatever Freedom Scientific have done with this feature, they clearly
haven't tested it very well.


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If anyone has an answer please share it as I too have problems with track
changes and it is a massive pain.


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Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes

I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or
track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it
reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added?
Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it
easy to manage track changes?

I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS
with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some
people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that
can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I
would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
To: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi,

I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking
for here:
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/
TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
You've got me curious to try this out.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
To: Brian Unitt
<BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I
am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?

From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to
use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't
work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
helpful.

Best,

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

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<blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf
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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions
of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My
find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up
or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com  Wed Jun 13 04:54:29 2018
From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 06:54:29 +0200
Subject: [blindlaw] External afairs associate
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Located in Washington DC.

The Constitution Project at POGO is hiring!  We are looking for an
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 13 05:23:36 2018
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:53:36 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
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The short answer is that track changes is usable, but is very challenging to use. One strategy that I've been lately using is setting custom key commands to jump from one change to another. I find this more reliable than quick navigation keys, as the latter sometimes doesn't detect all changes in a document.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2018, at 8:57 AM, sy.hoekstra--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't have that issue with inserting comments.  I also don't think that
> using the JAWS features with track changes are all that bad, given how
> difficultthose kinds of shared editing tasks are to do with screen readers.
> 
> Also, I believe you can set JAWS to announce changes in font such as color
> or strike-through. I don't know how to do it myself, but I think someone
> here has discussed it previously. I think you can jump between changes in
> font color or whatever by messing with the text analyzer settings maybe?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Graham Hardy via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:42 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Graham Hardy <GHardy at harrisbrun.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Track Changes
> 
> I understand how tracked changes are supposed to work and I can use them,
> but there are plenty of bugs. If you use a Braille display, the cursor
> position is almost always inaccurate surrounding track changes. (The same is
> true with numbered lists and various cross-reference fields and is dreadful
> with autonumbered lists such as one uses for exhibit identifiers in
> affidavits.) Further, inserting comments sometimes causes JAWS to freeze or
> to stop interacting with a document until both JAWS and Word are restarted.
> Whatever Freedom Scientific have done with this feature, they clearly
> haven't tested it very well.
> 
> 
> Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com 
> 
> 
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> 
> If anyone has an answer please share it as I too have problems with track
> changes and it is a massive pain.
> 
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
> 
> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
> pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or
> track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it
> reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added?
> Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it
> easy to manage track changes?
> 
> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS
> with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some
> people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that
> can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I
> would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking
> for here:
> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/
> TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
> You've got me curious to try this out.
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> 
> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
> To: Brian Unitt
> <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
> the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I
> am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
> quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?
> 
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Hi Nikki,
> 
> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
> can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to
> use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't
> work properly.
> 
> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
> your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
> tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
> helpful.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> 
> From: BlindLaw
> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf
> Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
> 
> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions
> of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My
> find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up
> or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nikki
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From amarjain at amarjain.com  Wed Jun 13 05:39:46 2018
From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:09:46 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
In-Reply-To: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
References: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <C748A788-A606-4100-BEA1-AC441E3E5DD4@amarjain.com>

I being a capital Markets lawyer have to deal with track changes day in day out. Some effective tips:

1. Assign keyboard shortcuts for moving to previous and next change from Options > customise ribbon > customise. From the combo box choose all commands to get the entire list;

2. When on the change, use character and word navigation to understand the change. Reading by sentence / line / paragraph does not indicate the change in Jaws, but the same is possible in NVDA;

3. Formatting changes in track are only pronounced as ‘revised’ and one has to accept them to see the impact;

4. If you have access to Workshare or other tools for generating the black line, then save black line in word and use text analyser of Jaws to jump between colour changes; and

5. Commands for accepting all changes or rejecting all / one at a time can be created using customise ribbon > customise.

If this seems complicated, then get on a call and I would be happy to make it simpler.

Regards,
Amar Jain
Mobile: +91-9892622230

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> On 13-Jun-2018, at 4:59 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?
> 
> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
> You've got me curious to try this out.
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> 
> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
> To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?
> 
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
> 
> Hi Nikki,
> 
> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.
> 
> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> 
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
> 
> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nikki
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From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Wed Jun 13 14:00:35 2018
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:00:35 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
In-Reply-To: <C748A788-A606-4100-BEA1-AC441E3E5DD4@amarjain.com>
References: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
	<C748A788-A606-4100-BEA1-AC441E3E5DD4@amarjain.com>
Message-ID: <CAKs_uDRA8wR0bWYb4k4X+pXBi6TqgOqTej+e-Kz4-2kVoATu7w@mail.gmail.com>

I use the Windows semicolen combo to bring up a list of all comments,
footnotes, revisions, and endnotes. Then I can click on the
revisions/comments one by one. There is also a way to accept all
changes in document by pressing alt, using right arrow to Review,
pushing down arrow to go to changes and opening that, and then go to
"accept all changes in document." You can also reject all changes,
delete all comments, etc under this menu. Usually JAWS announces
revisions as you read through the document line by line. But I haven't
found a great way to detect multiple people's revisions and see who
made what change. It gets pretty cumbersome after a while.

Deepa

On 6/13/18, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I being a capital Markets lawyer have to deal with track changes day in day
> out. Some effective tips:
>
> 1. Assign keyboard shortcuts for moving to previous and next change from
> Options > customise ribbon > customise. From the combo box choose all
> commands to get the entire list;
>
> 2. When on the change, use character and word navigation to understand the
> change. Reading by sentence / line / paragraph does not indicate the change
> in Jaws, but the same is possible in NVDA;
>
> 3. Formatting changes in track are only pronounced as ‘revised’ and one has
> to accept them to see the impact;
>
> 4. If you have access to Workshare or other tools for generating the black
> line, then save black line in word and use text analyser of Jaws to jump
> between colour changes; and
>
> 5. Commands for accepting all changes or rejecting all / one at a time can
> be created using customise ribbon > customise.
>
> If this seems complicated, then get on a call and I would be happy to make
> it simpler.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
> Mobile: +91-9892622230
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 13-Jun-2018, at 4:59 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
>> pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line
>> and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good?
>> Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or
>> added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you
>> find it easy to manage track changes?
>>
>> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using
>> JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives.
>> Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable
>> technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely
>> non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I
>> politely maintain my line.
>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
>> To: Singh, Nandini
>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are
>> looking for here:
>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
>> You've got me curious to try this out.
>>
>> Brian
>> Brian C. Unitt
>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>> A Professional Corporation
>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>> Riverside, CA 92501
>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>
>> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
>> To: Brian Unitt
>> <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>
>> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
>> the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question.
>> I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
>> quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a
>> keystroke?
>>
>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> Cc: Singh, Nandini
>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>
>> Hi Nikki,
>>
>> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
>> can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have
>> to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f
>> doesn't work properly.
>>
>> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
>> your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
>> tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
>> helpful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Brian
>> Brian C. Unitt
>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>> A Professional Corporation
>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>> Riverside, CA 92501
>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>
>> From: BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On
>> Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
>>
>> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic
>> functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and
>> Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with
>> the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nikki
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
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From jameyanne at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 02:27:06 2018
From: jameyanne at gmail.com (jameyanne at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:27:06 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
In-Reply-To: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C24E8F8@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
References: <eda700b22f0e40798846d4f08660fe81@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
	<4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C24E8F8@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local>
Message-ID: <01d701d40387$3049d3c0$90dd7b40$@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I'm also having this problem both on my personal computer and the computer
at my internship. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. I find JAWS stops
working after a while, especially if you've been flipping back and forth
between windows. So far, the only way I've been able to fix things is to
turn JAWS off and on again. If anyone figures this out, let us know. 
Jameyanne

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via
BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to
use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't
work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
helpful.

Best,

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
Tel: 951-682-7030
Fax: 951-684-8061
www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com

From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via
BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions
of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My
find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up
or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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From amarjain at amarjain.com  Thu Jun 14 04:29:36 2018
From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:59:36 +0530
Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes
In-Reply-To: <CAKs_uDRA8wR0bWYb4k4X+pXBi6TqgOqTej+e-Kz4-2kVoATu7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9ecc9af516dc43599ee306b7c23bb587@CBIvEX01eUS.cov.com>
	<C748A788-A606-4100-BEA1-AC441E3E5DD4@amarjain.com>
	<CAKs_uDRA8wR0bWYb4k4X+pXBi6TqgOqTej+e-Kz4-2kVoATu7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD59E05B-AA9C-48D5-B915-D36C9117CC68@amarjain.com>

Deepa,

I have always seen that Windows ; does not work in large documents. My documents are anywhere between 300 to 700 pages, with a file size of about 2-3 MB, containing graphics and tables as well.

Jaws says there are no track changes or comments in this document. And how do you read revisions by line? For authors, there are two tips:

1. Turn the author + count in Jaws verbosity while in Word; and

2. If you want to review changes and comments from a specific author, then in Review > specific people, uncheck all others except the author you want. This is now becoming less useful as most often organizations are using single author name on all computers to represent global identity.

Track on track is the worst thing to review being blind lawyer.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13-Jun-2018, at 7:30 PM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use the Windows semicolen combo to bring up a list of all comments,
> footnotes, revisions, and endnotes. Then I can click on the
> revisions/comments one by one. There is also a way to accept all
> changes in document by pressing alt, using right arrow to Review,
> pushing down arrow to go to changes and opening that, and then go to
> "accept all changes in document." You can also reject all changes,
> delete all comments, etc under this menu. Usually JAWS announces
> revisions as you read through the document line by line. But I haven't
> found a great way to detect multiple people's revisions and see who
> made what change. It gets pretty cumbersome after a while.
> 
> Deepa
> 
>> On 6/13/18, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I being a capital Markets lawyer have to deal with track changes day in day
>> out. Some effective tips:
>> 
>> 1. Assign keyboard shortcuts for moving to previous and next change from
>> Options > customise ribbon > customise. From the combo box choose all
>> commands to get the entire list;
>> 
>> 2. When on the change, use character and word navigation to understand the
>> change. Reading by sentence / line / paragraph does not indicate the change
>> in Jaws, but the same is possible in NVDA;
>> 
>> 3. Formatting changes in track are only pronounced as ‘revised’ and one has
>> to accept them to see the impact;
>> 
>> 4. If you have access to Workshare or other tools for generating the black
>> line, then save black line in word and use text analyser of Jaws to jump
>> between colour changes; and
>> 
>> 5. Commands for accepting all changes or rejecting all / one at a time can
>> be created using customise ribbon > customise.
>> 
>> If this seems complicated, then get on a call and I would be happy to make
>> it simpler.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>> Mobile: +91-9892622230
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13-Jun-2018, at 4:59 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
>>> pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line
>>> and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good?
>>> Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or
>>> added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you
>>> find it easy to manage track changes?
>>> 
>>> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using
>>> JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives.
>>> Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable
>>> technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely
>>> non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I
>>> politely maintain my line.
>>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
>>> To: Singh, Nandini
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are
>>> looking for here:
>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
>>> You've got me curious to try this out.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>> A Professional Corporation
>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>> 
>>> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
>>> To: Brian Unitt
>>> <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
>>> the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question.
>>> I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
>>> quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a
>>> keystroke?
>>> 
>>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Cc: Singh, Nandini
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Hi Nikki,
>>> 
>>> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
>>> can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have
>>> to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f
>>> doesn't work properly.
>>> 
>>> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
>>> your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
>>> tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>> A Professional Corporation
>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>> 
>>> From: BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On
>>> Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic
>>> functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and
>>> Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with
>>> the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be
>>> appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nikki
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> 
>> 
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Jun 14 19:03:21 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:03:21 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Job Posting--Seattle Office of Labor Standards
Message-ID: <BN7PR09MB25297706608E50E7B1C604F0F97D0@BN7PR09MB2529.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>



Job Posting Link<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/seattle?department%5b0%5d=Office%20of%20Labor%20Standards&sort=PositionTitle%7CAscending>
Senior Investigator
Salary
$34.76 - $40.48 Hourly
Location
Seattle, WA
Job Type
Classified Civil Service, Regular, Full-Time
Department
Office of Labor Standards
Job Number
2018-00867
Closing
6/19/2018 4:00 PM Pacific

  *   Description<https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/seattle/jobs/2098550/senior-investigator?department%5b0%5d=Office%20of%20Labor%20Standards&sort=PositionTitle%7CAscending&pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs#details-info>
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Position Description
As a leader on workplace practices that promote equity, advance race and social justice, address wage gaps and create a fair and healthy economy for workers, businesses and residents, the City of Seattle created an Office of Labor Standards (OLS).

This position will handle a complex investigation caseload including directed investigations, company-wide investigations involving numerous ordinances, and investigations requiring in-depth legal research and analysis. Responsibilities include research and planning for directed and complaint-based investigations, conducting investigations, and recommending resolutions to complaints of violations of the Paid Sick and Safe Time Ordinance (PSST), Fair Chance Employment Ordinance (FCE), Minimum Wage Ordinance (MW), Administrative Wage Theft Ordinance (WT), Secure Scheduling Ordinance (SS), the Hotel Employees Health and Safety Initiative (HEHS), and other labor standards the City may enact in the future.

The Senior Labor Standards Investigator position is a full-time, hourly, over-time eligible position that will report to the Enforcement Manager.

We are increasing our staff and are recruiting for both full-time regular positions as well as temporary positions.
Job Responsibilities
•        Conduct investigations of alleged non-compliance of Seattle's Labor Standards (some claims involve both labor standard and civil rights discrimination violations) including highly sensitive and/or complex investigations such as directed investigations, company-wide investigations involving numerous ordinances, and investigations with complex legal issues.
•        Conduct remand investigations.
•        Determine legitimacy of complaint, gather and preserve evidence, examine witnesses, review payroll records, conduct complex research using various databases and other legal tools, analyze fact patterns and prepare and issue detailed formal determinations and orders.
•        Negotiate and draft legally binding settlement contracts and conduct conciliation in cases where a violation of non-compliance of the labor standards law is found.
•        Work on a variety of special projects, as assigned, that may include developing and leading presentations on Seattle's Labor Standards, reviewing labor ordinances, policies and procedures, recommending new legislation to policy makers and policies and procedures to OLS, analyzing and applying federal and/or state case law and regulations.
•        Provide mentorship to Labor Standards Investigators/Civil Rights Analysts. Provide input into performance plans and appraisals, hiring decisions and other personnel actions affecting Labor Standards Investigators/Civil Rights Analysts.
•        Perform related duties, including intake, as needed and required.
The work product of the Office of Labor Standards is subject to judicial scrutiny and must meet procedural and technical standards in accordance with applicable federal and state laws and regulations.
Qualifications
Education:  A baccalaureate degree from an accredited college or university, or a certified equivalency for foreign studies in Public or Business Administration, Human Resources Management, Industrial Relations,  Political Science or a closely related field/analytical discipline.  A law degree (J.D.) is preferred but not required.

Experience:  Three (3) years of professional experience with major work assignments emphasizing civil rights law enforcement, equal employment opportunity, complaint investigation, affirmative action program implementation, personnel administration, labor relations, or related work as a mediator in these areas (or a combination of education and/or training and/or experience which provides an equivalent background required to perform the work of the class).
Additional Information
The position is classified as a Civil Rights Analyst, Senior.

This position is open to all candidates that meet the minimum qualifications.  The Seattle Office of Labor Standards values diverse perspectives and life experiences.  Applicants will be considered regardless of race, color, creed, national origin, ancestry, sex, marital status, disability, religious or political affiliation, age, sexual orientation, or gender identity.  The Office encourages people of all backgrounds to apply, including people of color, immigrants, refugees, women, LGBTQ, people with disabilities, veterans, and those with diverse life experiences.
The City of Seattle offers a comprehensive benefits package including vacation, holiday and sick leave as well as medical, dental, vision, life and long-term disability insurance for employees and their dependents.

More information about employee benefits is available on the City's website at: http://www.seattle.gov/jobs/benefits.asp
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From don.padou at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 17 08:32:51 2018
From: don.padou at yahoo.com (Don Padou)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 23:32:51 -0900
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1529224374.UT79fxYOuXAJnUT7GfoSsT@mf-smf-ucb036c2>

http://source.jupitermotorsportsllc.com


Don Padou



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Jun 18 16:02:13 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 16:02:13 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Department of Education Office For Civil Rights:
 Vacancy Announcement for Regional Director (KC-OCR-2018-0007, 0008, 0009)
Message-ID: <BN7PR09MB2529AA9670A67E44FC7A5CFCF9710@BN7PR09MB2529.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>


See below links for OCR USAJOBS vacancy announcements for a GS-0905-15 Supervisory General Attorney (Regional Director) and GS-0360-15 Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Regional Director) for the Kansas City Regional Office.

The opening date is 6/18 and closing date is 6/29.

Announcement(s):
KC-OCR-2018-0007
Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Regional Director), GS-0360-15 (MP)
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/502599100

KC-OCR-2018-0008
Supervisory Equal Opportunity Specialist (Regional Director), GS-0360-15 (DE)
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/502600400

KC-OCR-2018-0009
Supervisory General Attorney (Regional Director), GS-0905-15
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/502601500


Thank You,

From glnorman15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 19 13:59:13 2018
From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:59:13 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Boston, Mass. July 26 Disab. G.M.F.
Message-ID: <DM5PR14MB151581A47C93012F8DC0FA7CD1700@DM5PR14MB1515.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

The Promise and Realities of Human Rights for All
Alumni Action Dialogues


A Conversation on Disability Access in the Global Era
July 26, 2018 at the Non-profit Center of Boston 9:30 A.M.


Want a great way to celebrate the promise of the Americans with Disabilities Act, while learning of its connection to the global stage?

Gary C. Norman (AMMF 2008) and Kerry Thompson (AMMF 2014) shall co-host and co-facilitate the next of their dialogues on community integration.  They do so under the auspices of an Alumni Action project at the German Marshall Fund of the U.S.

These two leaders with disabilities, who have a foot print in Trans-Atlantic relations with a focus on community integration, will explore the mutually supportive roles of the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities and access improvements at home, and how our partnership in law and in culture, builds a global inclusive community.  Attendees will depart with their awareness raised on these issues as well as the promise in the Trans-Atlantic for emerging unique leaders.

Reservations should be promptly submitted to Gary C. Norman, Esq. L.L.M.

From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Jun 21 15:44:07 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 15:44:07 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Now hiring at UW Law! Assistant Director of the Gates
 Public Service Law Program
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From: Huy C Nguyen [mailto:cuu at uw.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:31 PM
To: Diversity Stakeholders
Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] Now hiring at UW Law! Assistant Director of the Gates Public Service Law Program

We are excited to announce that we will be hiring an Assistant Director for the Gates Public Service Law Program at the University of Washington School of Law!  Please feel free to share widely.  More info in the link below:

https://uwhires.admin.washington.edu/ENG/candidates/default.cfm?szCategory=jobprofile&jobhistory=1&szOrderID=157351


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Tel. 1-206-543-9065
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Jun 22 16:11:34 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:11:34 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Newsletter entry: DOJ Rules for Movie Theater Captioning
 and Audio Description Take Effect, U.S. Access Board,
 May/June 2018 Newsletter
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DOJ Rules for Movie Theater Captioning and Audio Description Take Effect
U.S. Access Board Newsletter
May/June 2018

As of June 2, movie theaters showing digital movies must provide a means for delivering closed captioning and audio description under rules issued under the ADA by the Department of Justice (DOJ). Issued 18 months ago, the rules supplement provisions in DOJ's ADA regulations on provision of auxiliary aids and services. Movie theaters that show digital movies equipped with closed captions and audio description must acquire and maintain equipment for displaying captions and transmitting audio description.

Closed captions are displayed individually to patrons with hearing impairments at their seats. Open captioning displayed on the movie screen is not required. Audio description provides additional narration of a movie's visual elements to patrons with vision impairments and is typically transmitted by infrared or FM systems to wireless headsets. The rule specifies the minimum number of closed captioning and audio description devices that must be provided based on the number of auditoriums in a theater. The rule does not apply to theaters showing analog movies only, nor does it require such theaters to convert to digital projection systems. For further information, visit DOJ's website or contact its ADA hotline at (800) 514-0301 (v) or (800) 514-3083 (TTY).

From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 22 22:12:57 2018
From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 23:12:57 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] Accessible Discovery Review Platforms
Message-ID: <CAGZitzLYZ+Z8-MczQ1NHPRsACZmQN90gd4-=p0fVd9vD+6_PVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Has anyone experience of an accessible discovery platform and if so,
preferably using JAWS - though any screen reader will do.

If so, would you be able to share detailed feedback on how you are
able to use it?

Kind regards

Ger


From cathbonnette at gmail.com  Sat Jun 23 21:00:42 2018
From: cathbonnette at gmail.com (Cathryn Bonnette)
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 17:00:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Map Quest Access
Message-ID: <00bf01d40b35$3fc16c40$bf4444c0$@gmail.com>

Greetings,

 

Presently, I work in an assisting capacity for around 30 lawyers. I use jaws
18 and Kurzweil on a Windows 7 system.  Last week I was assigned to provide
driving instructions from Map Quest. I entered the starting point and
destination as directed. Nothing happened even though I repeated the process
several times.  

Questions:

Does anyone on the list use the Map Quest site? If so, do you find it Jaws
accessible? 

Am I missing something that I should know?

Any guidance is much appreciated.

Thank you!

 

Regards,

 

CBonnet


From nmpbrat at aol.com  Sun Jun 24 01:42:55 2018
From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:42:55 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Map Quest Access
In-Reply-To: <00bf01d40b35$3fc16c40$bf4444c0$@gmail.com>
References: <00bf01d40b35$3fc16c40$bf4444c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1642f754f65-c8c-2047e@webjas-vae063.srv.aolmail.net>

Cathryn,
I am not a jaws user.....but am a mapquest user.  Are you clicking on "view route directions" botton?  If you are, my next guess would possibly be that jaws is not reading the directions themselves that are there?!  Just a thought.  
Nicole



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To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Cathryn Bonnette <cathbonnette at gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 23, 2018 8:33 pm
Subject: [blindlaw] Map Quest Access

Greetings,

 

Presently, I work in an assisting capacity for around 30 lawyers. I use jaws
18 and Kurzweil on a Windows 7 system.  Last week I was assigned to provide
driving instructions from Map Quest. I entered the starting point and
destination as directed. Nothing happened even though I repeated the process
several times.  

Questions:

Does anyone on the list use the Map Quest site? If so, do you find it Jaws
accessible? 

Am I missing something that I should know?

Any guidance is much appreciated.

Thank you!

 

Regards,

 

CBonnet

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From rfarber at jw.com  Mon Jun 25 21:17:27 2018
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:17:27 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment context
Message-ID: <ec31d8cb4e984a4d8e36d50ceb22d4e6@jw.com>

This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if any of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?

The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?

The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
Randy

Randal S. Farber
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
Houston, Texas 77010
713-752-4241 - Phone
713-308-4120 - Fax
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From amatney at loeb.com  Mon Jun 25 21:27:19 2018
From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:27:19 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
 context
In-Reply-To: <ec31d8cb4e984a4d8e36d50ceb22d4e6@jw.com>
References: <ec31d8cb4e984a4d8e36d50ceb22d4e6@jw.com>
Message-ID: <658CEC25-4AB6-4381-8004-99204F8909E4@loeb.com>

Randy,

I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because now it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.

Good luck.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>
> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if any of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>
> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>
> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
> Randy
>
> Randal S. Farber
> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
> Houston, Texas 77010
> 713-752-4241 - Phone
> 713-308-4120 - Fax
> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
> [Randy_farber1]
> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal Specialization, Since 1996
> The statements contained herein are not intended to and do not constitute an opinion as to any tax or other matter.  They are not intended or written to be used, and may not be relied upon, by you or any other person for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under any Federal tax law or otherwise.
>
> <Farber, Randal S .vcf>
>

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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Mon Jun 25 23:52:24 2018
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:52:24 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
 context
In-Reply-To: <658CEC25-4AB6-4381-8004-99204F8909E4@loeb.com>
References: <ec31d8cb4e984a4d8e36d50ceb22d4e6@jw.com>
	<658CEC25-4AB6-4381-8004-99204F8909E4@loeb.com>
Message-ID: <053a01d40cdf$91894600$b49bd200$@labarrelaw.com>

Randy, as for a straight up ADA question, employees are absolutely not
required to disclose a disability pre-employment offer.  Employers can't
even ask about disability.  With respect to the religious order etc, it
depends on in what context it is hiring.  For example, many moons ago I sued
Catholic Charities under Title I o the ADA because they would not hire a
blind social worker.  It depends on whether the function being carried out
is a truly religious one.  The Catholic church can require, or example, that
their priests not possess any disabilities.  If you want any more help with
this, just give me a call.

Best,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela
Matney via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
context

Randy,

I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a
religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this
information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of
GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review
GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose
this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because now
it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.

Good luck.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>
> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if any
of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>
> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>
> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is
whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
> Randy
>
> Randal S. Farber
> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
> Houston, Texas 77010
> 713-752-4241 - Phone
> 713-308-4120 - Fax
> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
> [Randy_farber1]
> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal 
> Specialization, Since 1996 The statements contained herein are not
intended to and do not constitute an opinion as to any tax or other matter.
They are not intended or written to be used, and may not be relied upon, by
you or any other person for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be
imposed under any Federal tax law or otherwise.
>
> <Farber, Randal S .vcf>
>

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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Tue Jun 26 01:11:32 2018
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:11:32 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?
Message-ID: <657A517A-8055-4D61-9DDC-7E9496F4E66C@pima.gov>

As a public defender in Juvenile Court, one of my many tasks is handling applications for Destruction of Records and restoration of civil rights, where a felony adjudication was involved.  This requires the applicants’ signatures to be notarized.

Because of unfortunate staffing circumstances in our office, and my very hectic court schedule, it has become difficult to set appointments with applicants when an office notary is available, and the office cannot afford to pay for my ADA assistant or secretary to o come a notary.  I am at the point where I feel I should seek to become registered as a not notary at my  own expense - but, being blind, I can’t visually check IDs,  or visually witness the signature.

Does anyone know if blind / severely visually impaired persons can become notaries?

Susan C L Kelly
Assistant Public Defender
Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
Ofc: 520-724-2994
Fax: 520-770-4168

From rodalcidonis at gmail.com  Tue Jun 26 03:28:09 2018
From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:28:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?
In-Reply-To: <657A517A-8055-4D61-9DDC-7E9496F4E66C@pima.gov>
References: <657A517A-8055-4D61-9DDC-7E9496F4E66C@pima.gov>
Message-ID: <7794EFCC18CA47EE9333A3EAB563071F@RVenue>

I would first check if as an attorney your state does not authorize you to 
notarize documents. Some of them do. Secondly, the cost to become a notary, 
at least in Pennsylvania, was about $400 or less for me. I had to take a 
similar approach with my long-time assistant a few years ago. I paid for her 
to obtain her license and kit so we could notarize documents in house.



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From: S    usan Kelly via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:11 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Susan Kelly
Subject: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?

As a public defender in Juvenile Court, one of my many tasks is handling 
applications for Destruction of Records and restoration of civil rights, 
where a felony adjudication was involved.  This requires the applicants’ 
signatures to be notarized.

Because of unfortunate staffing circumstances in our office, and my very 
hectic court schedule, it has become difficult to set appointments with 
applicants when an office notary is available, and the office cannot afford 
to pay for my ADA assistant or secretary to o come a notary.  I am at the 
point where I feel I should seek to become registered as a not notary at my 
own expense - but, being blind, I can’t visually check IDs,  or visually 
witness the signature.

Does anyone know if blind / severely visually impaired persons can become 
notaries?

Susan C L Kelly
Assistant Public Defender
Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
Ofc: 520-724-2994
Fax: 520-770-4168
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From lmendez716 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 26 12:57:39 2018
From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 08:57:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
 context
In-Reply-To: <053a01d40cdf$91894600$b49bd200$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <ec31d8cb4e984a4d8e36d50ceb22d4e6@jw.com>	<658CEC25-4AB6-4381-8004-99204F8909E4@loeb.com>
	<053a01d40cdf$91894600$b49bd200$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <008201d40d4d$43fe2900$cbfa7b00$@gmail.com>

All:

Interesting question.  With the caveat  that A.D.A. law was not my area of
practice, I am inclined to agree that unless the health information being
sought is  clearly related to either the religious  nature of the job, or
necessary to  performance of the job's essential functions, requiring such a
broad release would clearly violate the A.D.A. It may well be that the
breadth of the release may also violate H.I.P.A. since the information is
being sought for employment and not healthcare. It sounds to me as though
your potential client is dealing with a healthcare employer  using a generic
healthcare release in a context for which the scope of the release may not
be appropriate.

Luis 

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To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Scott C. Labarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
context

Randy, as for a straight up ADA question, employees are absolutely not
required to disclose a disability pre-employment offer.  Employers can't
even ask about disability.  With respect to the religious order etc, it
depends on in what context it is hiring.  For example, many moons ago I sued
Catholic Charities under Title I o the ADA because they would not hire a
blind social worker.  It depends on whether the function being carried out
is a truly religious one.  The Catholic church can require, or example, that
their priests not possess any disabilities.  If you want any more help with
this, just give me a call.

Best,
Scott

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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela
Matney via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
context

Randy,

I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a
religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this
information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of
GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review
GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose
this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because now
it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.

Good luck.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>
> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if 
> any
of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>
> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>
> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, 
> is
whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
> Randy
>
> Randal S. Farber
> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
> Houston, Texas 77010
> 713-752-4241 - Phone
> 713-308-4120 - Fax
> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
> [Randy_farber1]
> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal 
> Specialization, Since 1996 The statements contained herein are not
intended to and do not constitute an opinion as to any tax or other matter.
They are not intended or written to be used, and may not be relied upon, by
you or any other person for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be
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>
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From rfarber at jw.com  Tue Jun 26 13:40:58 2018
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:40:58 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
 context
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Thanks Luis.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment context

All:

Interesting question.  With the caveat  that A.D.A. law was not my area of
practice, I am inclined to agree that unless the health information being
sought is  clearly related to either the religious  nature of the job, or
necessary to  performance of the job's essential functions, requiring such a
broad release would clearly violate the A.D.A. It may well be that the
breadth of the release may also violate H.I.P.A. since the information is
being sought for employment and not healthcare. It sounds to me as though
your potential client is dealing with a healthcare employer  using a generic
healthcare release in a context for which the scope of the release may not
be appropriate.

Luis 

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via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:52 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Scott C. Labarre <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
context

Randy, as for a straight up ADA question, employees are absolutely not
required to disclose a disability pre-employment offer.  Employers can't
even ask about disability.  With respect to the religious order etc, it
depends on in what context it is hiring.  For example, many moons ago I sued
Catholic Charities under Title I o the ADA because they would not hire a
blind social worker.  It depends on whether the function being carried out
is a truly religious one.  The Catholic church can require, or example, that
their priests not possess any disabilities.  If you want any more help with
this, just give me a call.

Best,
Scott

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Matney via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
context

Randy,

I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a
religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this
information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of
GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review
GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose
this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because now
it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.

Good luck.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>
> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if 
> any
of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>
> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>
> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, 
> is
whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
> Randy
>
> Randal S. Farber
> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
> Houston, Texas 77010
> 713-752-4241 - Phone
> 713-308-4120 - Fax
> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
> [Randy_farber1]
> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal 
> Specialization, Since 1996 The statements contained herein are not
intended to and do not constitute an opinion as to any tax or other matter.
They are not intended or written to be used, and may not be relied upon, by
you or any other person for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be
imposed under any Federal tax law or otherwise.
>
> <Farber, Randal S .vcf>
>

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Jun 26 15:27:38 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:27:38 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Job Opening - Zillow Group
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:19 AM
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Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] Job Opening - Zillow Group

Please share with your networks-

The Zillow Group legal team is looking for a skilled employment law practitioner to join the company as Corporate Counsel.  The Corporate Counsel will support Zillow Group's fantastic People organization (including Human Resources / Operations, Recruiting, Community and Culture, and Learning and Development) on a range of nation-wide employment law matters, with particular emphasis on advice and counsel for all stages of hiring and compensation.  Experience in Washington, California, or New York preferred.

For more information visit: https://www.zillow.com/careers/openings/?j=P11872


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From bnaccari at gmail.com  Tue Jun 26 16:54:37 2018
From: bnaccari at gmail.com (Bruce Naccari)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 11:54:37 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 169, Issue 18 /blind notaries
Message-ID: <CAErF8SBn9nqmMXO38HRqFBjrja7xUNn7RdB=HOvn6nQ70Bx6jg@mail.gmail.com>

 In Louisiana  all lawyers can  apply to be and be commissioned as
notaries for life. I was a notary before I was legally blind and
before I was totally blind and have   acted as a notary when legally
blind and when blind without  any problem and  with no objections
from anyone and with knowledge of judges and know of at least one
other  who did the same. To give some realistic context I would point
out that there are likely  and likely have been "sighted" notaries so
myopic they could not  visually compare the face across the table to
an ID photo nor  see the face  being linked by  appropriate joints to
a hand that was signing;and  in LA   with commissions for life  I 'd
bet with near certainty elder lawyers  continuing to  practice law
likely have  continued to  notarize who are nearly or  actually
legally blind with age-related  causes who just casually rely on aides
to check IDs of  signatories and any witnesses .....

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> From: "Farber, Randy" <rfarber at jw.com>
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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>
> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if any
> of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
> hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
> the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
> employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
> about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
> sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
> to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
> can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
> she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>
> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
> information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
> difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>
> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is
> whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
> Randy
>
> Randal S. Farber
> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
> Houston, Texas 77010
> 713-752-4241 - Phone
> 713-308-4120 - Fax
> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
> [Randy_farber1]
> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal
> Specialization, Since 1996
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> From: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
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>
> Randy,
>
> I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a
> religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this
> information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of
> GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review
> GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose
> this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because now
> it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
>>
>> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if any
>> of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
>> hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
>> the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
>> employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
>> about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
>> sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
>> to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
>> can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
>> she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>>
>> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
>> information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
>> difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>>
>> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is
>> whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
>> Randy
>>
>> Randal S. Farber
>> Jackson Walker L.L.P.
>> 1401 McKinney, Suite 1900
>> Houston, Texas 77010
>> 713-752-4241 - Phone
>> 713-308-4120 - Fax
>> RFarber at JW.com<mailto:RFarber at JW.com>
>> [Randy_farber1]
>> Board Certified, Commercial Real Estate Law - Texas Board of Legal
>> Specialization, Since 1996
>> The statements contained herein are not intended to and do not constitute
>> an opinion as to any tax or other matter.  They are not intended or
>> written to be used, and may not be relied upon, by you or any other person
>> for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under any
>> Federal tax law or otherwise.
>>
>> <Farber, Randal S .vcf>
>>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:52:24 -0600
> From: "Scott C. Labarre" <slabarre at labarrelaw.com>
> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an
> 	employment context
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> Randy, as for a straight up ADA question, employees are absolutely not
> required to disclose a disability pre-employment offer.  Employers can't
> even ask about disability.  With respect to the religious order etc, it
> depends on in what context it is hiring.  For example, many moons ago I
> sued
> Catholic Charities under Title I o the ADA because they would not hire a
> blind social worker.  It depends on whether the function being carried out
> is a truly religious one.  The Catholic church can require, or example,
> that
> their priests not possess any disabilities.  If you want any more help with
> this, just give me a call.
>
> Best,
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela
> Matney via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:27 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Can you be required to waive ADA in an employment
> context
>
> Randy,
>
> I'm not certain about the ADA issue, particularly in the context of a
> religious employer. As for HIPAA, requiring the employee to release this
> information isn't a violation of HIPAA, but it could lead to violations of
> GINA, the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. I would have to review
> GINA to be sure. Having said all of this, requiring an employee to disclose
> this information makes no sense from the employer's perspective, because
> now
> it has information that could lead it to make discriminatory decisions.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
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>> This email originated from outside of Loeb's Network.
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>> This is a bit out of my field of practice, so I thought I would see if
>> any
> of you have had any experience.  I have a potential client, who is being
> hired by a company that operates hospitals in several states.  She went to
> the hospital for  her routine physical (and I assume drug test) for
> employment.  They required her to complete a full medical history asking
> about diseases and illnesses.  The problem, is that they required her to
> sign a consent to release not only the physical and drug test results, but
> to release ALL of her medical information, including any disabilities.  I
> can understand having to release the results of the drug test and whether
> she is physically fit to work, but releasing everything?
>>
>> The primary question for this list is whether requiring her to release
> information about a disability is in violation of the ADA?  Does it make a
> difference that the employer may be related to a religious group?
>>
>> The second question, and one which this list may not have experience, is
> whether the requirement to disclose violates HIPPA.
>> Randy
>>
>> Randal S. Farber
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:11:32 +0000
> From: Susan Kelly <Susan.Kelly at pima.gov>
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?
> Message-ID: <657A517A-8055-4D61-9DDC-7E9496F4E66C at pima.gov>
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> As a public defender in Juvenile Court, one of my many tasks is handling
> applications for Destruction of Records and restoration of civil rights,
> where a felony adjudication was involved.  This requires the applicants?
> signatures to be notarized.
>
> Because of unfortunate staffing circumstances in our office, and my very
> hectic court schedule, it has become difficult to set appointments with
> applicants when an office notary is available, and the office cannot afford
> to pay for my ADA assistant or secretary to o come a notary.  I am at the
> point where I feel I should seek to become registered as a not notary at my
> own expense - but, being blind, I can?t visually check IDs,  or visually
> witness the signature.
>
> Does anyone know if blind / severely visually impaired persons can become
> notaries?
>
> Susan C L Kelly
> Assistant Public Defender
> Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
> Ofc: 520-724-2994
> Fax: 520-770-4168
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:28:09 -0400
> From: <rodalcidonis at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?
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> I would first check if as an attorney your state does not authorize you to
> notarize documents. Some of them do. Secondly, the cost to become a notary,
>
> at least in Pennsylvania, was about $400 or less for me. I had to take a
> similar approach with my long-time assistant a few years ago. I paid for her
>
> to obtain her license and kit so we could notarize documents in house.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S    usan Kelly via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:11 PM
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> Cc: Susan Kelly
> Subject: [blindlaw] Visually impaired notaries?
>
> As a public defender in Juvenile Court, one of my many tasks is handling
> applications for Destruction of Records and restoration of civil rights,
> where a felony adjudication was involved.  This requires the applicants?
> signatures to be notarized.
>
> Because of unfortunate staffing circumstances in our office, and my very
> hectic court schedule, it has become difficult to set appointments with
> applicants when an office notary is available, and the office cannot afford
>
> to pay for my ADA assistant or secretary to o come a notary.  I am at the
> point where I feel I should seek to become registered as a not notary at my
>
> own expense - but, being blind, I can?t visually check IDs,  or visually
> witness the signature.
>
> Does anyone know if blind / severely visually impaired persons can become
> notaries?
>
> Susan C L Kelly
> Assistant Public Defender
> Pima County Public Defenders Office - Juvenile DIvision
> Ofc: 520-724-2994
> Fax: 520-770-4168
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Jun 27 23:33:49 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 23:33:49 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Update -
 Western District of Washington
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Jun 28 21:25:48 2018
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:25:48 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] National Association of Blind Lawyers' on-line payment
 available!
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The National Association of Blind Lawyers is building a new website.  It has a dearth of content as of yet, but now has a form to pay NABL dues, purchase mock trial tickets, pay for continuing legal education, and pay for NABL reception tickets, via PayPal. The form is at blindlawyers.net.

Noel

From jsoro824 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 29 11:15:19 2018
From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:15:19 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] National Security Exception to 508
Message-ID: <CAJNA4bmsu9yJL0E0-Np-rHz9nja_sV5k-Jo+bsDLCsNbw8m1Vw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have a pending 508 violation claim pending against my employer. One
of the affected contractors has indicated they will be filing for a
national security exception. Is there anyone who can point me to a
clear understanding of what generally falls under this exception? How
has the revision to the law impacted the exception, and of special
interest, can anyone point me to previous cases addressing this
specific matter? Thank you kindly in advance.

Joe


From sai at fiatfiendum.org  Fri Jun 29 17:12:37 2018
From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:12:37 +0100
Subject: [blindlaw] National Security Exception to 508
In-Reply-To: <CAJNA4bmsu9yJL0E0-Np-rHz9nja_sV5k-Jo+bsDLCsNbw8m1Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNA4bmsu9yJL0E0-Np-rHz9nja_sV5k-Jo+bsDLCsNbw8m1Vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHs-R5zAijCe9CXNoVvga3Y4eE38pbA6i1N+8awtdNyWM5Ak-Q@mail.gmail.com>

I may have info on this from a FOIA perspective, but it would help a
lot to know what sort of violation / claim / documents are involved.
Makes a huge difference.

Sincerely,
Sai
President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Joe Orozco via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a pending 508 violation claim pending against my employer. One
> of the affected contractors has indicated they will be filing for a
> national security exception. Is there anyone who can point me to a
> clear understanding of what generally falls under this exception? How
> has the revision to the law impacted the exception, and of special
> interest, can anyone point me to previous cases addressing this
> specific matter? Thank you kindly in advance.
>
> Joe
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri Jun 29 19:13:42 2018
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:13:42 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] NABL 2018 Annual Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <000001d40fdd$4b8eb620$e2ac2260$@labarrelaw.com>

Greetings everyone:

 

I look forward to seeing many of you in Orlando.  Below is the agenda for
our meeting this year.  Please remember that  you can go to our website and
prepay for this meeting and for the Mock Trial.  If you wish to bundle
several items, you select one and then hit continue shopping.  Al Elia tells
me that this  works and if it doesn't, then we will blame him.  Grin Even if
you prepay for the NABL meeting, please stop by the registration table so
that my assistant, Lisa, can get your information and give you the materials
if you are in fact purchasing same.  To all who are traveling to the
Convention, bon voyage!! 

 

Best,

Scott

 

AGENDA

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS

2018 ANNUAL MEETING

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Thursday, July 5, 2018

Panzacola Ballroom H-3, Level 1   

Rosen Shingle Creek 

Orlando, Florida

 

12:55 pm   WELCOME AND MEETING LOGISTICS

         Scott C. LaBarre, President, NABL, Denver, CO

 

1:00 pm     EFFECTIVE PRACTICE BEFORE THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY
COMMISSION

Kristen Foslid, Trial Attorney, EEOC, Miami, FL

 

1:35 pm     CONTINUING TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF WORKERS WITH DISABILITIES

Marc Maurer, Director of Legal Policy, NFB, Baltimore, MD; Regina Kline,
Partner, Brown Goldstein and Levy, Baltimore, MD; Pamela Steward, Joe
Magers, and Mark Felton, (workers challenging workplace discrimination and
subminimum wages at Seneca) 

 

2:10 pm     CLERKING YOUR WAY TO SUCCESS: THE EXPERIENCES OF BLIND 

LAW CLERKS

Deepa Goraya, Associate Counsel, Washington Lawyers' Committee 

for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs, Washington, D.C, Moderator.; Karla
Gilbride, Washington, D.C.; Michal Nowicki, Chicago, IL; Chris Stewart,
Bowling Green, KY; Laura Wolk, Washington, D.C.; 

 

2:45 pm     TRANSFORMING OUR DREAMS INTO REALITY THROUGH LITIGATION

Eve Hill, Partner, Brown, Goldstein and Levy, Washington, D.C.; 

Scott LaBarre, LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., Denver, CO

 

3:15 pm     REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS AND THE PRACTICE OF LAW     

Ronza Othman, Acting Director, EEO Compliance Group, Office of Equal
Opportunity and Civil Rights, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services,
Baltimore, MD, Moderator; Randy Farber, Partner, Jackson Walker, Houston,
TX; Deepa Goraya, Associate Counsel, Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil
Rights and Urban Affairs, Washington, D.C.; Tai Tomasi, Staff Attorney,
Disability Rights Iowa, Des Moines, IA  

 

4:00 pm     AIRA AND VISUAL INTERPRETERS: ETHICAL RAMIFICATIONS WHEN USED BY
BLIND ATTORNEYS

Kevan Worley, Consultant, AIRA, Colorado Springs, CO;

Tim Elder, Second Vice President, NABL, TRE Legal, Freemont, CA

 

4:20 pm     A BLIND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE: HOW THE JOB GETS DONE

Parnell Diggs, Administrative Law Judge, Social Security Administration,
Cincinnati, OH

 

3:40 pm     SECURING YOUR FINANCIAL FUTURE AS A BLIND LEGAL PROFESSIONAL

Rebecca Chang, Financial Advisor, Transamerica, Chicago, IL 

 

5:00 p.m.   ADJOURN TO RECEPTION

 

5:00 to 6:30 p.m.  ANNUAL NABL RECEPTION (ticketed event)

   Join us for cocktails and hors d'oeuvres as we celebrate the    

   progress of our organization.  Network and meet your fellow 

   blind attorneys and legal professionals. 

   Panzacola Ballroom H-2, Level 1

 


From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 29 21:59:26 2018
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:59:26 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] information
Message-ID: <c873a588-e5d8-aee1-3c92-11b131c16db4@gmail.com>

Hey guys, does anyone know when the mock trial and the dinner is for the 
NFB conference? Also, how much is the cost for the dinner?


From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jun 30 12:18:45 2018
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (Ray Wayne)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 08:18:45 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] information
In-Reply-To: <c873a588-e5d8-aee1-3c92-11b131c16db4@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6948B5A96EA14392A4EF51EA5FFF0B9A@RayWaynePC>

The Mock Trial is Wednesday afternoon right after Resolutions.
The NABL meeting is Thursday, from 12:30-5:00, with the reception to follow. 
I do not recall the cost, and it depends on whether you are seeking 
Continuing Legal Education from the meeting.
Ray Wayne

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Hey guys, does anyone know when the mock trial and the dinner is for the
NFB conference? Also, how much is the cost for the dinner?

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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Sat Jun 30 14:31:39 2018
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. Labarre)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 08:31:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] information
In-Reply-To: <6948B5A96EA14392A4EF51EA5FFF0B9A@RayWaynePC>
References: <c873a588-e5d8-aee1-3c92-11b131c16db4@gmail.com>
	<6948B5A96EA14392A4EF51EA5FFF0B9A@RayWaynePC>
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Yes, the Mock Trial will be at 4:15 pm on the 4th.  On the 5th starting at
12:55, we will have the Annual Meeting of NABL.  I sent the agenda out
yesterday.  NABL duees are $25.  If you want CLE materials and dues, it is
$45.  Both those packages include the reception.  If you want to attend the
reception alone, it is $10.  If you are a law student, it is $5 for
registration.

Best,
Scott

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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] information

The Mock Trial is Wednesday afternoon right after Resolutions.
The NABL meeting is Thursday, from 12:30-5:00, with the reception to follow.

I do not recall the cost, and it depends on whether you are seeking
Continuing Legal Education from the meeting.
Ray Wayne

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Hey guys, does anyone know when the mock trial and the dinner is for the
NFB conference? Also, how much is the cost for the dinner?

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From tim at timeldermusic.com  Sat Jun 30 20:19:13 2018
From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 13:19:13 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] National Security Exception to 508
In-Reply-To: <CAJNA4bmsu9yJL0E0-Np-rHz9nja_sV5k-Jo+bsDLCsNbw8m1Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNA4bmsu9yJL0E0-Np-rHz9nja_sV5k-Jo+bsDLCsNbw8m1Vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016201d410af$9d27a7d0$d776f770$@timeldermusic.com>

Joe,

There is very little precedent around these issues.  I'd be very interested to learn more about the complaint and see if we can provide assistance.  Can we speak offline?  It is helpful if you can send me more details, such as the complaint and the response from the agency and/or vendor?  


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Orozco <jsoro824 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:15 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] National Security Exception to 508

Hello,

I have a pending 508 violation claim pending against my employer. One of the affected contractors has indicated they will be filing for a national security exception. Is there anyone who can point me to a clear understanding of what generally falls under this exception? How has the revision to the law impacted the exception, and of special interest, can anyone point me to previous cases addressing this specific matter? Thank you kindly in advance.

Joe