[blindlaw] Track Changes

Angela Matney amatney at loeb.com
Tue Jun 12 23:47:05 UTC 2018


Nicki,

I have found JAWS support for track changes to be iffy at best. As ind as it is to believe, I think you can safely say there's no fool-proof way to do this nonvisually.

Having said that, there are some work-arounds. I would imagine your firm has software like Workshare, CompareDocs, or something similar. I have found that generating redlines with one of these software packages works much better for me than trying to use track changes. I whink this is because of the way JAWS was designed to treat track changes. I think it might be better if JAWS simply gave us color and font information and let us interprt what it means. This is similar to the output you get with one of the software packages I just mentioned.

Depending on your setup, the process of creating the redline may or may not be accessible. If you can't do it directly, your assistant (or someone in your word processing or similar department) may be able to help.

As for editing, I generally edit with track-changes off and then use the "compare" feature built into Word to produce a document that looks like it was created with track changes. But the comparison sofgware applications I mentioned earlier can do this too.

Sorry if this post is disjointed, I am in the middle of something. But I wanted to answer this while it was fresh in my mind. I'm happy to discuss if that would be helpful.

I'm also interested to see what techniques others use.


Angie


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> On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it easy to manage track changes?
>
> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking for here:
> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
> You've got me curious to try this out.
>
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
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> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
> To: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?
>
> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Singh, Nandini
> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>
> Hi Nikki,
>
> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't work properly.
>
> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very helpful.
>
> Best,
>
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> Tel: 951-682-7030
> Fax: 951-684-8061
> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
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> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
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> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
>
> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Nikki
>

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