[blindlaw] Track Changes

Thu Jun 14 04:29:36 UTC 2018

Deepa,

I have always seen that Windows ; does not work in large documents. My documents are anywhere between 300 to 700 pages, with a file size of about 2-3 MB, containing graphics and tables as well.

Jaws says there are no track changes or comments in this document. And how do you read revisions by line? For authors, there are two tips:

1. Turn the author + count in Jaws verbosity while in Word; and

2. If you want to review changes and comments from a specific author, then in Review > specific people, uncheck all others except the author you want. This is now becoming less useful as most often organizations are using single author name on all computers to represent global identity.

Track on track is the worst thing to review being blind lawyer.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13-Jun-2018, at 7:30 PM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use the Windows semicolen combo to bring up a list of all comments,
> footnotes, revisions, and endnotes. Then I can click on the
> revisions/comments one by one. There is also a way to accept all
> changes in document by pressing alt, using right arrow to Review,
> pushing down arrow to go to changes and opening that, and then go to
> "accept all changes in document." You can also reject all changes,
> delete all comments, etc under this menu. Usually JAWS announces
> revisions as you read through the document line by line. But I haven't
> found a great way to detect multiple people's revisions and see who
> made what change. It gets pretty cumbersome after a while.
> 
> Deepa
> 
>> On 6/13/18, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I being a capital Markets lawyer have to deal with track changes day in day
>> out. Some effective tips:
>> 
>> 1. Assign keyboard shortcuts for moving to previous and next change from
>> Options > customise ribbon > customise. From the combo box choose all
>> commands to get the entire list;
>> 
>> 2. When on the change, use character and word navigation to understand the
>> change. Reading by sentence / line / paragraph does not indicate the change
>> in Jaws, but the same is possible in NVDA;
>> 
>> 3. Formatting changes in track are only pronounced as ‘revised’ and one has
>> to accept them to see the impact;
>> 
>> 4. If you have access to Workshare or other tools for generating the black
>> line, then save black line in word and use text analyser of Jaws to jump
>> between colour changes; and
>> 
>> 5. Commands for accepting all changes or rejecting all / one at a time can
>> be created using customise ribbon > customise.
>> 
>> If this seems complicated, then get on a call and I would be happy to make
>> it simpler.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>> Mobile: +91-9892622230
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13-Jun-2018, at 4:59 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
>>> pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line
>>> and/or track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good?
>>> Is it reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or
>>> added? Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you
>>> find it easy to manage track changes?
>>> 
>>> I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using
>>> JAWS with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives.
>>> Some people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable
>>> technology that can handle something like track and do so entirely
>>> non-visually. I thought I would confirm with all of you myself before I
>>> politely maintain my line.
>>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
>>> To: Singh, Nandini
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are
>>> looking for here:
>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
>>> You've got me curious to try this out.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>> A Professional Corporation
>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>> 
>>> From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:15 AM
>>> To: Brian Unitt
>>> <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
>>> the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question.
>>> I am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
>>> quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a
>>> keystroke?
>>> 
>>> From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Cc: Singh, Nandini
>>> Subject: RE: JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> Hi Nikki,
>>> 
>>> I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
>>> can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have
>>> to use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f
>>> doesn't work properly.
>>> 
>>> You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
>>> your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
>>> tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>> A Professional Corporation
>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>> www.holsteinlaw.com<http://www.holsteinlaw.com/>
>>> mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>> 
>>> From: BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On
>>> Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018
>>> 
>>> this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic
>>> functions of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and
>>> Windows 10. My find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with
>>> the use of alt up or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be
>>> appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nikki
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