From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 18:24:19 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 23:54:19 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminatory treatment against the disabled in the administration of insurance policies Message-ID: <10A45E21-FD6F-49EC-8B4C-77468AC57918@gmail.com> Hi everyone, I am currently working on a matter before the Indian Supreme Court which relates to the denial of insurance policies to persons with disabilities. The gravamen of our case is that a candidate's blindness cannot be the basis to (a) refuse to grant insurance; (b) grant it on less favourable terms; or (c) to refuse to honour a claim by erroneously linking it with the insured's disability. We are looking for cases from other jurisdictions to buttress our arguments. I am wondering if members of this list are aware of any American cases which may have a bearing on these issues. I'd also like to know if there are specific statutory provisions that deal with nondiscrimination in the grant of insurance policies. Any leads from other jurisdictions would also be helpful. Thank you. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone From amarjain at amarjain.com Tue Sep 4 04:26:22 2018 From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:56:22 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminatory treatment against the disabled in the administration of insurance policies In-Reply-To: <10A45E21-FD6F-49EC-8B4C-77468AC57918@gmail.com> References: <10A45E21-FD6F-49EC-8B4C-77468AC57918@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just to add, we are specifically looking at the market place model so far as U.S. is concerned, in line with the provisions of the Health Care Act and any other law which may have any baring on the issue. Also, if you are aware of how underwriting policies factor disability as a component, that would be of great help. Regards, Amar Jain Sent from my iPhone > On 03-Sep-2018, at 11:54 PM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am currently working on a matter before the Indian Supreme Court which relates to the denial of insurance policies to persons with disabilities. The gravamen of our case is that a candidate's blindness cannot be the basis to (a) refuse to grant insurance; (b) grant it on less favourable terms; or (c) to refuse to honour a claim by erroneously linking it with the insured's disability. > > We are looking for cases from other jurisdictions to buttress our arguments. I am wondering if members of this list are aware of any American cases which may have a bearing on these issues. I'd also like to know if there are specific statutory provisions that deal with nondiscrimination in the grant of insurance policies. Any leads from other jurisdictions would also be helpful. Thank you. > > Best, > Rahul > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amarjain%40amarjain.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 08:32:41 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:02:41 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Message-ID: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> Hi everyone, While it is feasible to bookmark relevant pieces of information in a word document, I am wondering what strategies can be adopted to do so in PDFs. One option obviously is to convert the document into word, but that can be a very time-consuming process. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone From ctate2076 at att.net Tue Sep 4 11:10:59 2018 From: ctate2076 at att.net (Camille Tate) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 07:10:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am not sure if this information is correct… But, I think it is possible to make accessible PDF in Adobe Acrobat Professional. Documents can be created in 0CR, which then are accessible to read and print. Sincerely, Camille Tate President, Melbourne Space Coast Chapter , National Federation of the Blind, FL Board of Directors, National Federation of the Blind, FL Email: ctate2076 at att.net Phone: 321 372 4899 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at 4:32 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > While it is feasible to bookmark relevant pieces of information in a word document, I am wondering what strategies can be adopted to do so in PDFs. One option obviously is to convert the document into word, but that can be a very time-consuming process. > > Best, > Rahul Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 11:34:40 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:04:40 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27F95766-CED2-4E1A-A096-74D7836237B1@gmail.com> You are right, Camille. My question is about making notes in such accessible PDFs of relevant pieces of information. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Camille Tate wrote: > > I am not sure if this information is correct… But, I think it is possible to make accessible PDF in Adobe Acrobat Professional. Documents can be created in 0CR, which then are accessible to read and print. > > > Sincerely, > > Camille Tate > > President, Melbourne Space Coast Chapter , National Federation of the Blind, FL > > Board of Directors, National Federation of the Blind, FL > > Email: ctate2076 at att.net > > Phone: 321 372 4899 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 4, 2018, at 4:32 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> While it is feasible to bookmark relevant pieces of information in a word document, I am wondering what strategies can be adopted to do so in PDFs. One option obviously is to convert the document into word, but that can be a very time-consuming process. >> >> Best, >> Rahul Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us Tue Sep 4 13:01:10 2018 From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC)) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:01:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminatory treatment against the disabled in the Message-ID: <43bfbabf23fe4ab1a9e268297cbd5ffb@Exchange.wcbvi.k12.wi.us> Some of this depends upon the type of insurance. Life, and disability insurance are covered by a document from the National Association of Insurance Commissioners in 1978. You can probably find the text of that statement in the Braille Monitor for that year. Most states have passed legislation which outlaws discrimination in those categories of insurance. I am not sure about the effect on property and casualty insurance, and health insurance is covered by the Affordable Insurance Act, which, at least right now, does not allow for the increase of premium or exclusion of pre-existing conditions. I was involved in the passage of the NAIC rule in the state of Oregon, but must confess to have been an insurance agent, not a legal professional. I am sure others on this list can give you specific case law. From davant1958 at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 17:35:22 2018 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:35:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Sixth Circuit Rules in Favor of Mainstreaming for Student w/ ID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <093c01d44475$a8c08a40$fa419ec0$@gmail.com> Please see below. Denise R. Avant, President National Federation of the Blind of Illinois (773)-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, go to www.nfbofillinois.org. From: The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG> On Behalf Of Allbright, Amy Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 7:37 AM To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: Sixth Circuit Rules in Favor of Mainstreaming for Student w/ ID https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2018/08/29/federal-court-mainstreaming/25429 / Amy L. Allbright Director Commission on Disability Rights (CDR) Mail Stop 11.0 American Bar Association (ABA) 1050 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 400 Washington, DC 20036 T: 202.662.1575 F: 202.442.3439 Amy.Allbright at americanbar.org http://www.americanbar.org/groups/disabilityrights.html From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Tue Sep 4 17:37:00 2018 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:37:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> If you have an iPad, the Voicedream Reader app allows you to add highlights, bookmarks and notes. You can export those to a text file, or you can cut and paste text to an app called Notebooks that I find useful for organizing information related to a particular project. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist in Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:33 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Hi everyone, While it is feasible to bookmark relevant pieces of information in a word document, I am wondering what strategies can be adopted to do so in PDFs. One option obviously is to convert the document into word, but that can be a very time-consuming process. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com ________________________________ From joshl at loevy.com Tue Sep 4 17:54:42 2018 From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:54:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Message-ID: I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 6448 URL: From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Sep 4 18:12:17 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:12:17 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Message-ID: I have an iPad Mini 4th generation and a Zagg keyboard case. The keyboard case has a hinged keyboard. The top half serves as the shell case for the iPad. Basically, the iPad Mini is situated much like a laptop screen. I like this setup because you have more room on the screen for gestures and can take advantage of some of the iPad's multi-tasking and split screen functionality. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 12:55 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Josh Loevy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Tue Sep 4 18:42:24 2018 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:42:24 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Hi Josh, It is probably more personal preference than necessity to be honest. I like having my work separate from my phone calls. Otherwise it is too easy to lose my place. Also, on the iPad you can split screen two apps like Voicedream and Notebooks for easy cutting and pasting. I don't think that is possible on the iPhone but I might be wrong about that. It may be just psychological, but the extra screen area on the iPad Mini seems more comfortable for using Voicedream and Notebooks. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist, Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:55 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Josh Loevy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. ________________________________ From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Sep 4 18:44:58 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:44:58 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Message-ID: Brian, You are correct. The iPhone does not allow for split screen. It's an iPad feature. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Brian Unitt Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Hi Josh, It is probably more personal preference than necessity to be honest. I like having my work separate from my phone calls. Otherwise it is too easy to lose my place. Also, on the iPad you can split screen two apps like Voicedream and Notebooks for easy cutting and pasting. I don't think that is possible on the iPhone but I might be wrong about that. It may be just psychological, but the extra screen area on the iPad Mini seems more comfortable for using Voicedream and Notebooks. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist, Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:55 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Josh Loevy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Wed Sep 5 01:47:00 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 20:47:00 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Message-ID: <0PEK00CCS7MACF20@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Rahul, If you use a Windows computer with JAWS, you can create temporary and permanent JAWS placemarkers in PDF documents. This feature is even more powerful than its Word counterpart, because you are not limited to one placemarker per file as you are in Word. To set a temporary placemarker, navigate to where you would like to add the marker and press Ctrl Windows K. To create a permanent placemarker, navigate to the desired location, press Ctrl Shift K, and press enter to activate the new placemarker dialogue. At that point, you will be asked to enter a name for the placemarker and set options like anchoring the placemarker to specific text. Once you are finished, activate the OK button, and your placemarker should be saved. Navigating JAWS placemarkers is equally straightforward. From within the document, press k or Shift k to navigate to the next or previous placemarker, respectively. Alternatively, pressing Ctrl Shift K will bring up a list of all placemarkers in the current file, which supports first-letter navigation. Please let us know if this is the type of feature you are looking for. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 1:46 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Brian, You are correct. The iPhone does not allow for split screen. It's an iPad feature. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Brian Unitt Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Hi Josh, It is probably more personal preference than necessity to be honest. I like having my work separate from my phone calls. Otherwise it is too easy to lose my place. Also, on the iPad you can split screen two apps like Voicedream and Notebooks for easy cutting and pasting. I don't think that is possible on the iPhone but I might be wrong about that. It may be just psychological, but the extra screen area on the iPad Mini seems more comfortable for using Voicedream and Notebooks. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist, Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:55 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Josh Loevy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 07:49:51 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:19:51 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <0PEK00CCS7MACF20@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <0PEK00CCS7MACF20@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Message-ID: <7923A266-FD04-4420-B310-FDD1BC2A255A@gmail.com> Yes, Michael, this is very helpful; this is precisely the kind of feature that I was looking for. Will test this out. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Rahul, > > If you use a Windows computer with JAWS, you can create temporary and permanent JAWS placemarkers in PDF documents. This feature is even more powerful than its Word counterpart, because you are not limited to one placemarker per file as you are in Word. To set a temporary placemarker, navigate to where you would like to add the marker and press Ctrl Windows K. To create a permanent placemarker, navigate to the desired location, press Ctrl Shift K, and press enter to activate the new placemarker dialogue. At that point, you will be asked to enter a name for the placemarker and set options like anchoring the placemarker to specific text. Once you are finished, activate the OK button, and your placemarker should be saved. > > Navigating JAWS placemarkers is equally straightforward. From within the document, press k or Shift k to navigate to the next or previous placemarker, respectively. Alternatively, pressing Ctrl Shift K will bring up a list of all placemarkers in the current file, which supports first-letter navigation. Please let us know if this is the type of feature you are looking for. > > Best, > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 1:46 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs > > Brian, > > You are correct. The iPhone does not allow for split screen. It's an iPad feature. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Brian Unitt > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs > > Hi Josh, > > It is probably more personal preference than necessity to be honest. I like having my work separate from my phone calls. Otherwise it is too easy to lose my place. Also, on the iPad you can split screen two apps like Voicedream and Notebooks for easy cutting and pasting. I don't think that is possible on the iPhone but I might be wrong about that. It may be just psychological, but the extra screen area on the iPad Mini seems more comfortable for using Voicedream and Notebooks. > > Brian > Brian C. Unitt > Certified Specialist, Appellate Law > The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization > > Holstein, Taylor and Unitt > A Professional Corporation > 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 > Riverside, CA 92501 > Tel: 951-682-7030 > Fax: 951-684-8061 > www.holsteinlaw.com > mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com > > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:55 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Josh Loevy > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs > > I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 12:43:47 2018 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:43:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility Message-ID: Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones accessible, particularly the type where the function of the buttons changes depending on what is currently happening on the phone. My previous jobs used the phone very rarely, but I will need them more at the firm. They tell me they use Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In addition to having voicemail forwarded to my email, i am also wondering how I can access the missed call list and whether there is a way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more powerful phones. Thanks for any assistance. Laura From will.burley3 at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:11:15 2018 From: will.burley3 at gmail.com (Will Burley) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:11:15 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning, We are just switching from the types of phones you’re now using. There is a desktop app that can read out the collar ID from your computer. There is also A separate program named Carl assistant where you can view your missed calls on the computer. Will Burley Phone: 713-614-3322 "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." -Maya Angelou Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones > accessible, particularly the type where the function of the buttons > changes depending on what is currently happening on the phone. My > previous jobs used the phone very rarely, but I will need them more at > the firm. They tell me they use Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In > addition to having voicemail forwarded to my email, i am also > wondering how I can access the missed call list and whether there is a > way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more powerful phones. > > Thanks for any assistance. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/will.burley3%40gmail.com From rjaquiss at earthlink.net Wed Sep 5 13:47:31 2018 From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (rjaquiss) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 07:47:31 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002101d4451e$feb97750$fc2c65f0$@earthlink.net> Hello: I suggest getting the model of the phone and then contacting Avaya. Hopefully, this will solve the problem. Hope this helps. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:44 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones accessible, particularly the type where the function of the buttons changes depending on what is currently happening on the phone. My previous jobs used the phone very rarely, but I will need them more at the firm. They tell me they use Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In addition to having voicemail forwarded to my email, i am also wondering how I can access the missed call list and whether there is a way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more powerful phones. Thanks for any assistance. Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjaquiss%40earthlink.n et From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Sep 5 14:08:07 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:08:07 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: See if Avaya's accessibility solution at the following link could be used in your office. It appears to be limited to select phone models, and I'm not sure if it resolves the issue of context-sensitive button functions: https://support.avaya.com/products/P0558/universal-access-phone-status Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 7:44 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones accessible, particularly the type where the function of the buttons changes depending on what is currently happening on the phone. My previous jobs used the phone very rarely, but I will need them more at the firm. They tell me they use Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In addition to having voicemail forwarded to my email, i am also wondering how I can access the missed call list and whether there is a way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more powerful phones. Thanks for any assistance. Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Wed Sep 5 16:21:21 2018 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:21:21 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs In-Reply-To: <0PEK00CCS7MACF20@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> References: <7223B9C2-75D6-46ED-8762-948A7DCD4765@gmail.com> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B4270@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B448F@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> <0PEK00CCS7MACF20@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Message-ID: <4A95BD82E7BAD44D9AEB0A8A59AA51140C2B58B9@MBX030-E1-VA-6.exch030.domain.local> Michal, That's a great tip, thanks. I wish there was a way to get large pdf files (200-300 pages) to open faster with Acrobat Reader DC. It is painful to wait for all that processing, when they just pop open in Voicedream. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist in Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 6:47 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Rahul, If you use a Windows computer with JAWS, you can create temporary and permanent JAWS placemarkers in PDF documents. This feature is even more powerful than its Word counterpart, because you are not limited to one placemarker per file as you are in Word. To set a temporary placemarker, navigate to where you would like to add the marker and press Ctrl Windows K. To create a permanent placemarker, navigate to the desired location, press Ctrl Shift K, and press enter to activate the new placemarker dialogue. At that point, you will be asked to enter a name for the placemarker and set options like anchoring the placemarker to specific text. Once you are finished, activate the OK button, and your placemarker should be saved. Navigating JAWS placemarkers is equally straightforward. From within the document, press k or Shift k to navigate to the next or previous placemarker, respectively. Alternatively, pressing Ctrl Shift K will bring up a list of all placemarkers in the current file, which supports first-letter navigation. Please let us know if this is the type of feature you are looking for. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 1:46 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Brian, You are correct. The iPhone does not allow for split screen. It's an iPad feature. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Brian Unitt Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs Hi Josh, It is probably more personal preference than necessity to be honest. I like having my work separate from my phone calls. Otherwise it is too easy to lose my place. Also, on the iPad you can split screen two apps like Voicedream and Notebooks for easy cutting and pasting. I don't think that is possible on the iPhone but I might be wrong about that. It may be just psychological, but the extra screen area on the iPad Mini seems more comfortable for using Voicedream and Notebooks. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist, Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Josh Loevy via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:55 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Josh Loevy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Making notes in PDFs I'm curious why you choose to use an IPad verses an iPhone? Any reason in particular? I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is utility in getting an iPad in addition to my phone. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com ________________________________ From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 21:18:48 2018 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 17:18:48 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks everyone, and especially to Tai for digging up that link for me. I really appreciate it! On 9/5/18, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > See if Avaya's accessibility solution at the following link could be used in > your office. It appears to be limited to select phone models, and I'm not > sure if it resolves the issue of context-sensitive button functions: > https://support.avaya.com/products/P0558/universal-access-phone-status > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via > BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 7:44 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility > > Hi all, > > I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones accessible, > particularly the type where the function of the buttons changes depending on > what is currently happening on the phone. My previous jobs used the phone > very rarely, but I will need them more at the firm. They tell me they use > Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In addition to having voicemail forwarded > to my email, i am also wondering how I can access the missed call list and > whether there is a way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more > powerful phones. > > Thanks for any assistance. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From dandrews at visi.com Thu Sep 6 02:23:58 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 21:23:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Desk Phone Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I could be wrong, but I thought Avaya at one time did something with accessibility. Then there is the access-a-phone software that might work with them, I don't know. Dave At 07:43 AM 9/5/2018, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I am wondering if anyone has tips for making flat-paneled phones >accessible, particularly the type where the function of the buttons >changes depending on what is currently happening on the phone. My >previous jobs used the phone very rarely, but I will need them more at >the firm. They tell me they use Avaya phones, if that's helpful. In >addition to having voicemail forwarded to my email, i am also >wondering how I can access the missed call list and whether there is a >way to have caller-ID info spoken aloud on these more powerful phones. > >Thanks for any assistance. > >Laura From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Sep 7 13:08:13 2018 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. 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While these issues are being understood, however there is little hesitation in allowing me to continue doing this. Primarily because some of these companies can be a potential client in future. I am unable to seek recourse to the judiciary even on policy issues on disability, because while arguing the matter, some examples of discrimination could involve an existing or a past client. How have you dealt with these situations? Are there any specific measures which deal with these issues which form part of your social media engagement policy? Any inputs will be appreciated. Regards, Amar Jain Sent from my iPhone From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Fri Sep 7 14:32:58 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 20:02:58 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Discriminatory treatment against the disabled in the In-Reply-To: <43bfbabf23fe4ab1a9e268297cbd5ffb@Exchange.wcbvi.k12.wi.us> References: <43bfbabf23fe4ab1a9e268297cbd5ffb@Exchange.wcbvi.k12.wi.us> Message-ID: <56CFAD71-8714-46E4-AB12-D67AC567FC4B@gmail.com> Thanks, David. I will study the state statutes which grapple with the principle of nondiscrimination in the grant of insurance which you have adverted to. Any leads in terms of case laws on disability-based discrimination would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) via BlindLaw wrote: > > Some of this depends upon the type of insurance. Life, and disability insurance are covered by a document from the National Association of Insurance Commissioners in 1978. You can probably find the text of that statement in the Braille Monitor for that year. Most states have passed legislation which outlaws discrimination in those categories of insurance. I am not sure about the effect on property and casualty insurance, and health insurance is covered by the Affordable Insurance Act, which, at least right now, does not allow for the increase of premium or exclusion of pre-existing conditions. I was involved in the passage of the NAIC rule in the state of Oregon, but must confess to have been an insurance agent, not a legal professional. I am sure others on this list can give you specific case law. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Fri Sep 7 14:38:28 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 14:38:28 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Message-ID: Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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Friday afternoons central would be best for me Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 9:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sat Sep 8 00:44:43 2018 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (Ray Wayne) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 20:44:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <003901d446c8$ab834f60$0289ee20$@sbgaal.com> References: <003901d446c8$ab834f60$0289ee20$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <912D08FED6FC42EAB574AB9D144F2F12@RayWaynePC> I am also interested. My schedule varies, but I can probably swing anything other than Friday mornings. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon via BlindLaw" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Cc: "Shannon" Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I am interested. Friday afternoons central would be best for me Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 9:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Sat Sep 8 11:56:41 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:26:41 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <912D08FED6FC42EAB574AB9D144F2F12@RayWaynePC> References: <003901d446c8$ab834f60$0289ee20$@sbgaal.com> <912D08FED6FC42EAB574AB9D144F2F12@RayWaynePC> Message-ID: I am interested, too. I am in India, so the time zone difference may make this a slightly challenging proposition for me to attend, but I will do my best to make myself available at whatever time is agreed upon. Best, Rahul

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On 08/09/2018, Ray Wayne via BlindLaw wrote: > I am also interested. My schedule varies, but I can probably swing anything > > other than Friday mornings. > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shannon via BlindLaw" > To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" > Cc: "Shannon" > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > > I am interested. Friday afternoons central would be best for me > > Sincerely, > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > 1001 Main St., Suite 803 > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > Office: (806) 763-3999 > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or > attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express > permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 9:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become > HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I > have attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira > at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has > also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any > printouts. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > From rodalcidonis at gmail.com Sat Sep 8 13:33:26 2018 From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 09:33:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <912D08FED6FC42EAB574AB9D144F2F12@RayWaynePC> References: <003901d446c8$ab834f60$0289ee20$@sbgaal.com> <912D08FED6FC42EAB574AB9D144F2F12@RayWaynePC> Message-ID: <29F60564169B4B7398AEB7DAE823FA32@LAPTOPD7H4OV38> Tuesday and thursdays are better for me. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Wayne via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 8:44 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Ray Wayne Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I am also interested. My schedule varies, but I can probably swing anything other than Friday mornings. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon via BlindLaw" To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" Cc: "Shannon" Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I am interested. Friday afternoons central would be best for me Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 9:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com From jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 21:51:47 2018 From: jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com (Jeff Jay Johnston) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 14:51:47 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006c01d44887$4f721b50$ee5651f0$@gmail.com> Hello. I am very interested and have a mostly flexible schedule. 1) Was Tim Elder's NABL presentation recorded? 2) Will the conference call you're planning be archived for those who are not available at that time? Thanks. Jay -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 14:22:49 2018 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:22:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School Message-ID: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> All, I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Mon Sep 10 16:16:57 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:16:57 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Kelby, I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? Best, Michal Nowicki Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School All, I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 16:17:46 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:17:46 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kelby, I am in the exact same position. Though, so far, the issue of accommodations in my abilities has only come up in an interview with a public defenders office. Given the fact that this would be a litigation heavy position and one in a district court where there is a lot of hand written documents, I think the concern is a fair one. I relied a lot on information from this email list to help me address those concerns. I also made sure to be clear that I am being proactive in that I am always looking for ways to accomplish the same work as in the other attorney, but in a different way. I mentioned my subscription to this email list as a demonstration of those efforts. That said, I was not offered the job. I am aware that the pool of applicants was a very competitive one, but I still wonder if I could’ve done something better to address their concerns. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 16:23:26 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:23:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> Michal and Kelby, If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Kelby, > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > Best, > > Michal Nowicki > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > All, > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From NSingh at cov.com Mon Sep 10 16:32:24 2018 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:32:24 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer Wednesdays or Thursdays best. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 16:38:10 2018 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:38:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is good. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer Wednesdays or Thursdays best. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om From lmendez716 at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 18:23:58 2018 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:23:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> References: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007001d44933$7193ac10$54bb0430$@gmail.com> Good afternoon: I am interested in participating. I am generally available. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:38 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is good. Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer Wednesdays or Thursdays best. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have attached to this email. Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 10 19:03:17 2018 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:03:17 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] =?windows-1252?q?Article=3A_Court_rules_against_Dunki?= =?windows-1252?q?n_Donuts_over_blind_customer=92s_access_to_website=2C_Bu?= =?windows-1252?q?siness_Insurance=2C_July_31=2C_2018?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20180731/NEWS06/912323023/Court-rules-against-Dunkin-Donuts-over-blind-customer's-access-to-website Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over blind customer’s access to website Business Insurance July 31, 2018 Judy Greenwald A federal appeals court overturned a lower court and ruled a blind plaintiff can pursue an Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit against Dunkin Donuts L.L.C. for allegedly having an inaccessible website. The case is part of a trend, with more courts ruling against companies over the issue of website accessibility, while the number of lawsuits alleging ADA violations related to website access grows dramatically. The case decided Tuesday involved Dennis Haynes, who is blind and relies on screen reading software to use the internet, according to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta in Dennis Haynes v. Dunkin’ Donuts L.L.C., a foreign limited liability company, DD IP Holder L.L.C., CashStar Inc. Mr. Haynes sued Canton, Mass-based Dunkin Donuts in U.S. District Court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, claiming the company violated Title III of the ADA by not maintaining a website compatible with screen reading software. The District Court dismissed the case, which was overturned by a unanimous three-judge appeals court panel. It appears Dunkin’ Donuts’ website “is a service that facilitates the use of Dunkin Donuts’ shops, which are places of public accommodation,” the ruling states. Under the ADA, “whatever goods and services Dunkin’ Donuts offers as a part of its place of public accommodation, it cannot discriminate against people on the basis of a disability, even if those goods and services are intangible,” the ruling says. Mr. Haynes could not access services offered online by Dunkin’ Donuts’, including information about store locations and the ability to buy gift cards online. “The failure to make those services accessible to the blind can be said to exclude, deny, or otherwise treat blind people ‘differently than other individuals because of the absence of auxiliary aids and services,’” said the ruling, in quoting the ADA and remanding the case for further proceedings. From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 10 19:06:18 2018 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:06:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of Personal Information, Education Week, August 7, 2018 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/high_school_and_beyond/2018/08/students_with_disabilities_sue_act_over_release_of_personal_information.html?r=1094948204 Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of Personal Information Education Week August 7, 2018 By Catherine Gewertz A group of college-bound students with special needs and their parents filed suit Monday against ACT Inc., claiming the the testmaker illegally disclosed to colleges that they have disabilities. The class action suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, challenges the way the Iowa-based company uses information about students with disabilities. It collects that information as part of the "profile" students fill out online as they register for the college-admission exam, and an information form that students complete on the day of the exam. Introductory text in the profile tells students they can skip any question they don't want to answer, but says it's intended to "help you think about your future education and to help colleges in their planning." But instead of keeping it confidential, the suit says, ACT shares it with colleges by "flagging" their test-score reports, indicating that the scores were earned by someone who took the exam with accommodations. ACT and the College Board, which makes the SAT, agreed years ago to stop flagging the test scores of students who take the exam with accommodations, after that practice drew widespread criticism. But the new lawsuit says that the version of the score report that ACT sends to colleges shows information about disabilities, while the version that goes to students and their high schools does not. Using students' personal information that way "stigmatizes" them as they apply to college, Rahul Ravipudi, one of the attorneys on the students' legal team, says in a prepared statement. Edward Colby, a spokesman for ACT, said the company doesn't comment on pending litigation. The lawsuit also takes issue with ACT for selling students' information to colleges, scholarship programs, and other organizations for recruitment and marketing. It says that ACT sells a searchable database to enrollment managers at colleges, and bills it as a way to find the "right students for your institution," and provide the right support so students can succeed. But that information can also help colleges "create markets that intentionally exclude categories of students based upon the data elements provided, including students with disabilities," the suit says. "ACT profits off these violations and uses them to gain an edge in the marketplace over its only competitor, the College Board, which does not disclose students' disabilities to colleges and universities," the lawsuit says. The students-from families in California, Colorado and Nevada-claim that their work prospects could be affected, also, because the data report created by ACT's WorkKeys assessment-a popular career-readiness test-suggests that they took that exam with accommodations. "Tens of thousands of employers may have access to this data at any given time," the lawsuit says. The lawsuit describes how ACT's information-sharing practices played out for the students. Halie Bloom, who lives in Newport Beach, Calif., graduated from high school this past spring. Because of attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder and a reading disability, she's had an individualized education plan, or IEP, since middle school. Bloom took the ACT several times with approved accommodations. ACT acquired the information about her disability from her test-registration process. The score reports it sent to the colleges she requested included a notation that she had a "learning or cognitive disability." Bloom will attend the University of Arizona in the fall. But she believes that colleges and scholarship organizations may have declined to consider her after ACT shared her disability status with them. "I was shocked to learn that ACT was using my disability information against me and making it more difficult for me to get into college and get the money I need to go to college," Bloom said in a prepared statement. "I'm speaking out, because I know that someone has to stand up for all of the students who are scared about how their disabilities will be used against them." The lawsuit seeks a court order that would bar ACT from collecting or disclosing students' disability status to third parties as of the next administration of the test, in September. It also seeks damages for violation of students' privacy and civil rights. From laura.wolk at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 20:14:32 2018 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:14:32 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> References: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F755E45-372F-4014-A893-3FD50C34DBFF@gmail.com> I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day should work for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is > good. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, > Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer Wednesdays > or Thursdays best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to become > HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I > have attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira > at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has > also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Mon Sep 10 20:22:01 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 20:22:01 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter In-Reply-To: <0F755E45-372F-4014-A893-3FD50C34DBFF@gmail.com> References: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> <0F755E45-372F-4014-A893-3FD50C34DBFF@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all for your availability. I am working to set up a Doodle poll for specific dates and times, since responses are wide ranging. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual Interpreter I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day should work for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day > is good. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > Wednesdays or Thursdays best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss > the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those > who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to > become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security > paper which I have attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of > Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting > and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. > Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference > calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am > happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please > respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are > typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40g > mail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Mon Sep 10 21:36:13 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:36:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Cody, It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cody J. Davis Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School Michal and Kelby, If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Kelby, > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > Best, > > Michal Nowicki > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > All, > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 21:38:47 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:38:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> Message-ID: <76190D89-1EA0-43AB-9E45-C69D6CEA44AE@gmail.com> Agreed. Perhaps we can set up a conference call as some of the list members are doing on another issue. Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > On Sep 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Michal Nowicki wrote: > > Cody, > > It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > Michal and Kelby, > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > > > Kelby, > > > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > > > Best, > > > > Michal Nowicki > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > > Cc: Kelby Carlson > > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Sep 10 22:50:09 2018 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:50:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security Administration (Portland Office) In-Reply-To: References: <464efa58db7f407598879a1de2486761@KC-DAG1-04.sf.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: From: washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com [mailto:washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Conrad Reynoldson Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:49 PM To: WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com Subject: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security Administration (Portland Office) Good Day, The Social Security Administration has an Attorney Advisor position open in its Portland, Oregon office. We kindly request that you please post the job opening (attached above) to your organization's website and/or forward the description to your members via e-mail. If you have any questions, please contact me. Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter. Joy Jenkins Regional Management Officer Office of Hearings Operations - Region 10 *206.615.2242 (office) -- Conrad Reynoldson, Attorney at Law Washington Civil & Disability Advocate www.wacda.com 3513 NE 45th Street, Suite G Seattle, WA 98105 Office (206) 855-3134 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Washington Attorneys with Disabilities Association" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com. 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Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > Michal and Kelby, > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Kelby, >> >> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >> >> Best, >> >> Michal Nowicki >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> Cc: Kelby Carlson >> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> All, >> >> >> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com From angie.matney at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 04:13:01 2018 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:13:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. Angie Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: > > I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Cody, >> >> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Michal Nowicki >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> Michal and Kelby, >> >> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Kelby, >>> >>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Michal Nowicki >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com From dianeklennon at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 13:26:02 2018 From: dianeklennon at gmail.com (Diane Lennon) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:26:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am interested participating in the employment search tips phone call and the nabl phone call. On Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 8:00 AM wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Interviewing Post-Law School (Kelby Carlson) > 2. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Michal Nowicki) > 3. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) > 4. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) > 5. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter (Singh, Nandini) > 6. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter (Deepa Goraya) > 7. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter (Luis Mendez) > 8. Article: Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over blind > customer?s access to website, Business Insurance, July 31, 2018 > (Nightingale, Noel) > 9. Article: Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of > Personal Information, Education Week, August 7, 2018 > (Nightingale, Noel) > 10. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter (Laura Wolk) > 11. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter (Tai Tomasi) > 12. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Michal Nowicki) > 13. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) > 14. FW: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security > Administration (Portland Office) (Nightingale, Noel) > 15. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Sybren Hoekstra) > 16. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Angie Matney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:22:49 -0400 > From: Kelby Carlson > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > All, > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:16:57 -0500 > From: Michal Nowicki > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <0PEU006OML874H30 at st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Kelby, > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for > the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. > I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and > maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be > available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > Best, > > Michal Nowicki > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > Cc: Kelby Carlson > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > All, > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:17:46 -0400 > From: "Cody J. Davis" > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Kelby, > > I am in the exact same position. Though, so far, the issue of > accommodations in my abilities has only come up in an interview with a > public defenders office. Given the fact that this would be a litigation > heavy position and one in a district court where there is a lot of hand > written documents, I think the concern is a fair one. I relied a lot on > information from this email list to help me address those concerns. I also > made sure to be clear that I am being proactive in that I am always looking > for ways to accomplish the same work as in the other attorney, but in a > different way. I mentioned my subscription to this email list as a > demonstration of those efforts. > > That said, I was not offered the job. I am aware that the pool of > applicants was a very competitive one, but I still wonder if I could?ve > done something better to address their concerns. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:23:26 -0400 > From: "Cody J. Davis" > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Michal and Kelby, > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It > be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Kelby, > > > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for > the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. > I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and > maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be > available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > > > Best, > > > > Michal Nowicki > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > > Cc: Kelby Carlson > > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:32:24 +0000 > From: "Singh, Nandini" > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > Wednesdays or Thursdays best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io< > http://www.aira.io>. The service is currently working to become HIPAA > compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have > attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of > Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and > he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any printouts. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:38:10 -0400 > From: "Deepa Goraya" > To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > Message-ID: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is > good. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, > Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > Wednesdays > or Thursdays best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to > become > HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I > have attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira > at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has > also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any > printouts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:23:58 -0400 > From: "Luis Mendez" > To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > Message-ID: <007001d44933$7193ac10$54bb0430$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Good afternoon: > > I am interested in participating. I am generally available. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via > BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:38 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Deepa Goraya > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is > good. > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, > Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > Wednesdays > or Thursdays best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi > via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to > become > HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I > have attached to this email. > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira > at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has > also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any > printouts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > om > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:03:17 +0000 > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" > Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over > blind customer?s access to website, Business Insurance, July 31, > 2018 > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR09MB22655FE367232C6AEAD6D55EF9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > > https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20180731/NEWS06/912323023/Court-rules-against-Dunkin-Donuts-over-blind-customer's-access-to-website > > Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over blind customer?s access to website > Business Insurance > July 31, 2018 > Judy Greenwald > > A federal appeals court overturned a lower court and ruled a blind > plaintiff can pursue an Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit against > Dunkin Donuts L.L.C. for allegedly having an inaccessible website. > > The case is part of a trend, with more courts ruling against companies > over the issue of website accessibility, while the number of lawsuits > alleging ADA violations related to website access grows dramatically. > > The case decided Tuesday involved Dennis Haynes, who is blind and relies > on screen reading software to use the internet, according to the 11th U.S. > Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta in Dennis Haynes v. Dunkin? Donuts > L.L.C., a foreign limited liability company, DD IP Holder L.L.C., CashStar > Inc. > > Mr. Haynes sued Canton, Mass-based Dunkin Donuts in U.S. District Court in > Fort Lauderdale, Florida, claiming the company violated Title III of the > ADA by not maintaining a website compatible with screen reading software. > > The District Court dismissed the case, which was overturned by a unanimous > three-judge appeals court panel. It appears Dunkin? Donuts? website ?is a > service that facilitates the use of Dunkin Donuts? shops, which are places > of public accommodation,? the ruling states. > > Under the ADA, ?whatever goods and services Dunkin? Donuts offers as a > part of its place of public accommodation, it cannot discriminate against > people on the basis of a disability, even if those goods and services are > intangible,? the ruling says. > > Mr. Haynes could not access services offered online by Dunkin? Donuts?, > including information about store locations and the ability to buy gift > cards online. > > ?The failure to make those services accessible to the blind can be said to > exclude, deny, or otherwise treat blind people ?differently than other > individuals because of the absence of auxiliary aids and services,?? said > the ruling, in quoting the ADA and remanding the case for further > proceedings. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:06:18 +0000 > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" > Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over > Release of Personal Information, Education Week, August 7, 2018 > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR09MB226540F4F2B1F7D042474545F9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > https://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/high_school_and_beyond/2018/08/students_with_disabilities_sue_act_over_release_of_personal_information.html?r=1094948204 > > Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of Personal Information > Education Week > August 7, 2018 > By Catherine Gewertz > > A group of college-bound students with special needs and their parents > filed suit Monday against ACT Inc., claiming the the testmaker illegally > disclosed to colleges that they have disabilities. > > The class action suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, > challenges the way the Iowa-based company uses information about students > with disabilities. It collects that information as part of the "profile" > students fill out online as they register for the college-admission exam, > and an information form that students complete on the day of the exam. > > Introductory text in the profile tells students they can skip any question > they don't want to answer, but says it's intended to "help you think about > your future education and to help colleges in their planning." > > But instead of keeping it confidential, the suit says, ACT shares it with > colleges by "flagging" their test-score reports, indicating that the scores > were earned by someone who took the exam with accommodations. > > ACT and the College Board, which makes the SAT, agreed years ago to stop > flagging the test scores of students who take the exam with accommodations, > after that practice drew widespread criticism. > > But the new lawsuit says that the version of the score report that ACT > sends to colleges shows information about disabilities, while the version > that goes to students and their high schools does not. > > Using students' personal information that way "stigmatizes" them as they > apply to college, Rahul Ravipudi, one of the attorneys on the students' > legal team, says in a prepared statement. > > Edward Colby, a spokesman for ACT, said the company doesn't comment on > pending litigation. > > The lawsuit also takes issue with ACT for selling students' information to > colleges, scholarship programs, and other organizations for recruitment and > marketing. > > It says that ACT sells a searchable database to enrollment managers at > colleges, and bills it as a way to find the "right students for your > institution," and provide the right support so students can succeed. But > that information can also help colleges "create markets that intentionally > exclude categories of students based upon the data elements provided, > including students with disabilities," the suit says. > > "ACT profits off these violations and uses them to gain an edge in the > marketplace over its only competitor, the College Board, which does not > disclose students' disabilities to colleges and universities," the lawsuit > says. > > The students-from families in California, Colorado and Nevada-claim that > their work prospects could be affected, also, because the data report > created by ACT's WorkKeys assessment-a popular career-readiness > test-suggests that they took that exam with accommodations. "Tens of > thousands of employers may have access to this data at any given time," the > lawsuit says. > > The lawsuit describes how ACT's information-sharing practices played out > for the students. Halie Bloom, who lives in Newport Beach, Calif., > graduated from high school this past spring. Because of > attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder and a reading disability, she's > had an individualized education plan, or IEP, since middle school. > > Bloom took the ACT several times with approved accommodations. ACT > acquired the information about her disability from her test-registration > process. The score reports it sent to the colleges she requested included a > notation that she had a "learning or cognitive disability." > > Bloom will attend the University of Arizona in the fall. But she believes > that colleges and scholarship organizations may have declined to consider > her after ACT shared her disability status with them. > > "I was shocked to learn that ACT was using my disability information > against me and making it more difficult for me to get into college and get > the money I need to go to college," Bloom said in a prepared statement. > "I'm speaking out, because I know that someone has to stand up for all of > the students who are scared about how their disabilities will be used > against them." > > The lawsuit seeks a court order that would bar ACT from collecting or > disclosing students' disability status to third parties as of the next > administration of the test, in September. It also seeks damages for > violation of students' privacy and civil rights. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:14:32 -0600 > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > Message-ID: <0F755E45-372F-4014-A893-3FD50C34DBFF at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day > should work for me. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is > > good. > > > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, > > Nandini via BlindLaw > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Singh, Nandini > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > > Interpreter > > > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > Wednesdays > > or Thursdays best. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > Tomasi > > via BlindLaw > > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Tai Tomasi > > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > > Interpreter > > > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss > the > > use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are > > unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to > become > > HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper > which I > > have attached to this email. > > > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of > Aira > > at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he > has > > also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman > > mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this > > might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such > a > > call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are > interested, > > and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to > > schedule this call as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > > Pronouns: she/her/hers > > Staff Attorney > > > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > > www.driowa.org > > > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > > with disabilities > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you > are > > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from > > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any > > printouts. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c > > om > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 20:22:01 +0000 > From: Tai Tomasi > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > Visual Interpreter > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR2001MB093800FE124FA91A180A2EC4D1050 at DM5PR2001MB0938.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks to all for your availability. I am working to set up a Doodle poll > for specific dates and times, since responses are wide ranging. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or > from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy > any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via > BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:15 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > Interpreter > > I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day > should work for me. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day > > is good. > > > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > > Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Singh, Nandini > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira > > Visual Interpreter > > > > I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer > > Wednesdays or Thursdays best. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai > > Tomasi via BlindLaw > > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Tai Tomasi > > Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual > > Interpreter > > > > Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss > > the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those > > who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at > > www.aira.io. The service is currently working to > > become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security > > paper which I have attached to this email. > > > > Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of > > Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting > > and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. > > Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference > > calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am > > happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please > > respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are > > typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as > possible. > > > > > > > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > > Pronouns: she/her/hers > > Staff Attorney > > > > [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > > www.driowa.org > > > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > > Iowans with disabilities > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40g > > mail.c > > om > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gma > > il.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:36:13 -0500 > From: Michal Nowicki > To: "Cody J. Davis" , Blind Law Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00 at st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Cody, > > It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > Michal and Kelby, > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It > be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Kelby, > > > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for > the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. > I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and > maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be > available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > > > > Best, > > > > Michal Nowicki > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > > Cc: Kelby Carlson > > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > All, > > > > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. > > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. > > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:38:47 -0400 > From: "Cody J. Davis" > To: Michal Nowicki > Cc: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <76190D89-1EA0-43AB-9E45-C69D6CEA44AE at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Agreed. Perhaps we can set up a conference call as some of the list > members are doing on another issue. > > Respectfully, > Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com > Phone: (919) 349-9799 > Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Michal Nowicki > wrote: > > > > Cody, > > > > It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > From: Cody J. Davis > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Michal Nowicki > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > Michal and Kelby, > > > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? > It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > > > Kelby, > > > > > > I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat > for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job > interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a > job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. > Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this > Wednesday or Thursday? > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Michal Nowicki > > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > > > From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > > > To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > > > Cc: Kelby Carlson > > > Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > school. > > > I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of > yet. > > > Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > > > specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > > > impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > > > it's reasonable to be really concerned? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > BlindLaw mailing list > > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > BlindLaw mailing list > > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:50:09 +0000 > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with > Social Security Administration (Portland Office) > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR09MB2265F4D8872BC1D52A59F592F9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > From: washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com > [mailto:washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Conrad Reynoldson > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:49 PM > To: WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com > Subject: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security > Administration (Portland Office) > > Good Day, > > > The Social Security Administration has an Attorney Advisor position open > in its Portland, Oregon office. We kindly request that you please post the > job opening (attached above) to your organization's website and/or forward > the description to your members via e-mail. > > > If you have any questions, please contact me. > > > Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter. > > > > Joy Jenkins > Regional Management Officer > Office of Hearings Operations - Region 10 > *206.615.2242 (office) > > > > > -- > Conrad Reynoldson, Attorney at Law > Washington Civil & Disability Advocate > www.wacda.com > 3513 NE 45th Street, Suite G > Seattle, WA 98105 > Office (206) 855-3134 > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Washington Attorneys with Disabilities Association" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > >. > To post to this group, send email to > WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002).docx > Type: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > Size: 17030 bytes > Desc: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002).docx > URL: < > http://nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attachments/20180910/1b774810/attachment-0001.docx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:56:21 -0400 > From: Sybren Hoekstra > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help > however I can. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Cody, > > > > It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Cody J. Davis > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Michal Nowicki > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > Michal and Kelby, > > > > If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? > It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> Kelby, > >> > >> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat > for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job > interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a > job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. > Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this > Wednesday or Thursday? > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Michal Nowicki > >> > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >> > >> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > >> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > >> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >> > >> All, > >> > >> > >> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > school. > >> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of > yet. > >> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > >> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > >> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before > >> it's reasonable to be really concerned? > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:13:01 -0400 > From: Angie Matney > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a > job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with > almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview > experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I > would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. > > Angie > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help > however I can. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> Cody, > >> > >> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > >> > >> Michal > >> > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >> > >> From: Cody J. Davis > >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > >> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >> Cc: Michal Nowicki > >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >> > >> Michal and Kelby, > >> > >> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? > It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Kelby, > >>> > >>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat > for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job > interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a > job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. > Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this > Wednesday or Thursday? > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Michal Nowicki > >>> > >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>> > >>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > >>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > >>> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>> > >>> All, > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > school. > >>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of > yet. > >>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > >>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good > >>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have > before > >>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7 > **************************************** > From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 13:48:33 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:48:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F244750-7DC8-4ADA-8D44-D4685D1B1E52@gmail.com> Given the interest in the job search phone call, I think we could do a conference call using one of those free conference call services. I think an evening might be best for those who are currently working or I might have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Diane Lennon via BlindLaw wrote: > > I am interested participating in the employment search tips phone call and > the nabl phone call. > > > >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 8:00 AM wrote: >> >> Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Interviewing Post-Law School (Kelby Carlson) >> 2. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Michal Nowicki) >> 3. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) >> 4. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) >> 5. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter (Singh, Nandini) >> 6. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter (Deepa Goraya) >> 7. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter (Luis Mendez) >> 8. Article: Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over blind >> customer?s access to website, Business Insurance, July 31, 2018 >> (Nightingale, Noel) >> 9. Article: Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of >> Personal Information, Education Week, August 7, 2018 >> (Nightingale, Noel) >> 10. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter (Laura Wolk) >> 11. Re: Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter (Tai Tomasi) >> 12. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Michal Nowicki) >> 13. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) >> 14. FW: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security >> Administration (Portland Office) (Nightingale, Noel) >> 15. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Sybren Hoekstra) >> 16. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Angie Matney) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:22:49 -0400 >> From: Kelby Carlson >> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> All, >> >> >> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:16:57 -0500 >> From: Michal Nowicki >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <0PEU006OML874H30 at st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Kelby, >> >> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for >> the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. >> I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and >> maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be >> available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >> >> Best, >> >> Michal Nowicki >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> Cc: Kelby Carlson >> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> All, >> >> >> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:17:46 -0400 >> From: "Cody J. Davis" >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Kelby, >> >> I am in the exact same position. Though, so far, the issue of >> accommodations in my abilities has only come up in an interview with a >> public defenders office. Given the fact that this would be a litigation >> heavy position and one in a district court where there is a lot of hand >> written documents, I think the concern is a fair one. I relied a lot on >> information from this email list to help me address those concerns. I also >> made sure to be clear that I am being proactive in that I am always looking >> for ways to accomplish the same work as in the other attorney, but in a >> different way. I mentioned my subscription to this email list as a >> demonstration of those efforts. >> >> That said, I was not offered the job. I am aware that the pool of >> applicants was a very competitive one, but I still wonder if I could?ve >> done something better to address their concerns. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:23:26 -0400 >> From: "Cody J. Davis" >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Michal and Kelby, >> >> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It >> be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Kelby, >>> >>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for >> the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. >> I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and >> maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be >> available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Michal Nowicki >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:32:24 +0000 >> From: "Singh, Nandini" >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >> Visual Interpreter >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer >> Wednesdays or Thursdays best. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >> Tomasi via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Tai Tomasi >> Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the >> use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are >> unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at www.aira.io< >> http://www.aira.io>. The service is currently working to become HIPAA >> compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I have >> attached to this email. >> >> Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of >> Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and >> he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman >> mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this >> might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a >> call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, >> and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to >> schedule this call as soon as possible. >> >> >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or >> from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy >> any printouts. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 12:38:10 -0400 >> From: "Deepa Goraya" >> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >> Visual Interpreter >> Message-ID: <014601d44924$aa09db50$fe1d91f0$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is >> good. >> >> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, >> Nandini via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Singh, Nandini >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer >> Wednesdays >> or Thursdays best. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >> Tomasi >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Tai Tomasi >> Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the >> use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are >> unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at >> www.aira.io. The service is currently working to >> become >> HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I >> have attached to this email. >> >> Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira >> at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has >> also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman >> mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this >> might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a >> call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, >> and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to >> schedule this call as soon as possible. >> >> >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or >> from >> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy >> any >> printouts. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c >> om >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:23:58 -0400 >> From: "Luis Mendez" >> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >> Visual Interpreter >> Message-ID: <007001d44933$7193ac10$54bb0430$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Good afternoon: >> >> I am interested in participating. I am generally available. >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:38 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Deepa Goraya >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is >> good. >> >> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, >> Nandini via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Singh, Nandini >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer >> Wednesdays >> or Thursdays best. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >> Tomasi >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Tai Tomasi >> Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss the >> use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are >> unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at >> www.aira.io. The service is currently working to >> become >> HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper which I >> have attached to this email. >> >> Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of Aira >> at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he has >> also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman >> mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this >> might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such a >> call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are interested, >> and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to >> schedule this call as soon as possible. >> >> >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or >> from >> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy >> any >> printouts. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c >> om >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:03:17 +0000 >> From: "Nightingale, Noel" >> To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" >> Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over >> blind customer?s access to website, Business Insurance, July 31, >> 2018 >> Message-ID: >> < >> DM5PR09MB22655FE367232C6AEAD6D55EF9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com >>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> >> >> https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20180731/NEWS06/912323023/Court-rules-against-Dunkin-Donuts-over-blind-customer's-access-to-website >> >> Court rules against Dunkin Donuts over blind customer?s access to website >> Business Insurance >> July 31, 2018 >> Judy Greenwald >> >> A federal appeals court overturned a lower court and ruled a blind >> plaintiff can pursue an Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit against >> Dunkin Donuts L.L.C. for allegedly having an inaccessible website. >> >> The case is part of a trend, with more courts ruling against companies >> over the issue of website accessibility, while the number of lawsuits >> alleging ADA violations related to website access grows dramatically. >> >> The case decided Tuesday involved Dennis Haynes, who is blind and relies >> on screen reading software to use the internet, according to the 11th U.S. >> Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta in Dennis Haynes v. Dunkin? Donuts >> L.L.C., a foreign limited liability company, DD IP Holder L.L.C., CashStar >> Inc. >> >> Mr. Haynes sued Canton, Mass-based Dunkin Donuts in U.S. District Court in >> Fort Lauderdale, Florida, claiming the company violated Title III of the >> ADA by not maintaining a website compatible with screen reading software. >> >> The District Court dismissed the case, which was overturned by a unanimous >> three-judge appeals court panel. It appears Dunkin? Donuts? website ?is a >> service that facilitates the use of Dunkin Donuts? shops, which are places >> of public accommodation,? the ruling states. >> >> Under the ADA, ?whatever goods and services Dunkin? Donuts offers as a >> part of its place of public accommodation, it cannot discriminate against >> people on the basis of a disability, even if those goods and services are >> intangible,? the ruling says. >> >> Mr. Haynes could not access services offered online by Dunkin? Donuts?, >> including information about store locations and the ability to buy gift >> cards online. >> >> ?The failure to make those services accessible to the blind can be said to >> exclude, deny, or otherwise treat blind people ?differently than other >> individuals because of the absence of auxiliary aids and services,?? said >> the ruling, in quoting the ADA and remanding the case for further >> proceedings. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:06:18 +0000 >> From: "Nightingale, Noel" >> To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" >> Subject: [blindlaw] Article: Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over >> Release of Personal Information, Education Week, August 7, 2018 >> Message-ID: >> < >> DM5PR09MB226540F4F2B1F7D042474545F9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com >>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> https://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/high_school_and_beyond/2018/08/students_with_disabilities_sue_act_over_release_of_personal_information.html?r=1094948204 >> >> Students With Disabilities Sue ACT Over Release of Personal Information >> Education Week >> August 7, 2018 >> By Catherine Gewertz >> >> A group of college-bound students with special needs and their parents >> filed suit Monday against ACT Inc., claiming the the testmaker illegally >> disclosed to colleges that they have disabilities. >> >> The class action suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, >> challenges the way the Iowa-based company uses information about students >> with disabilities. It collects that information as part of the "profile" >> students fill out online as they register for the college-admission exam, >> and an information form that students complete on the day of the exam. >> >> Introductory text in the profile tells students they can skip any question >> they don't want to answer, but says it's intended to "help you think about >> your future education and to help colleges in their planning." >> >> But instead of keeping it confidential, the suit says, ACT shares it with >> colleges by "flagging" their test-score reports, indicating that the scores >> were earned by someone who took the exam with accommodations. >> >> ACT and the College Board, which makes the SAT, agreed years ago to stop >> flagging the test scores of students who take the exam with accommodations, >> after that practice drew widespread criticism. >> >> But the new lawsuit says that the version of the score report that ACT >> sends to colleges shows information about disabilities, while the version >> that goes to students and their high schools does not. >> >> Using students' personal information that way "stigmatizes" them as they >> apply to college, Rahul Ravipudi, one of the attorneys on the students' >> legal team, says in a prepared statement. >> >> Edward Colby, a spokesman for ACT, said the company doesn't comment on >> pending litigation. >> >> The lawsuit also takes issue with ACT for selling students' information to >> colleges, scholarship programs, and other organizations for recruitment and >> marketing. >> >> It says that ACT sells a searchable database to enrollment managers at >> colleges, and bills it as a way to find the "right students for your >> institution," and provide the right support so students can succeed. But >> that information can also help colleges "create markets that intentionally >> exclude categories of students based upon the data elements provided, >> including students with disabilities," the suit says. >> >> "ACT profits off these violations and uses them to gain an edge in the >> marketplace over its only competitor, the College Board, which does not >> disclose students' disabilities to colleges and universities," the lawsuit >> says. >> >> The students-from families in California, Colorado and Nevada-claim that >> their work prospects could be affected, also, because the data report >> created by ACT's WorkKeys assessment-a popular career-readiness >> test-suggests that they took that exam with accommodations. "Tens of >> thousands of employers may have access to this data at any given time," the >> lawsuit says. >> >> The lawsuit describes how ACT's information-sharing practices played out >> for the students. Halie Bloom, who lives in Newport Beach, Calif., >> graduated from high school this past spring. Because of >> attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder and a reading disability, she's >> had an individualized education plan, or IEP, since middle school. >> >> Bloom took the ACT several times with approved accommodations. ACT >> acquired the information about her disability from her test-registration >> process. The score reports it sent to the colleges she requested included a >> notation that she had a "learning or cognitive disability." >> >> Bloom will attend the University of Arizona in the fall. But she believes >> that colleges and scholarship organizations may have declined to consider >> her after ACT shared her disability status with them. >> >> "I was shocked to learn that ACT was using my disability information >> against me and making it more difficult for me to get into college and get >> the money I need to go to college," Bloom said in a prepared statement. >> "I'm speaking out, because I know that someone has to stand up for all of >> the students who are scared about how their disabilities will be used >> against them." >> >> The lawsuit seeks a court order that would bar ACT from collecting or >> disclosing students' disability status to third parties as of the next >> administration of the test, in September. It also seeks damages for >> violation of students' privacy and civil rights. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:14:32 -0600 >> From: Laura Wolk >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >> Visual Interpreter >> Message-ID: <0F755E45-372F-4014-A893-3FD50C34DBFF at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day >> should work for me. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day is >>> good. >>> >>> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Singh, >>> Nandini via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Singh, Nandini >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >>> Interpreter >>> >>> I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer >> Wednesdays >>> or Thursdays best. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >> Tomasi >>> via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Tai Tomasi >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >>> Interpreter >>> >>> Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss >> the >>> use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those who are >>> unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at >>> www.aira.io. The service is currently working to >> become >>> HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security paper >> which I >>> have attached to this email. >>> >>> Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of >> Aira >>> at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting and he >> has >>> also expressed interest in participating in the call. Ronza Othman >>> mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference calls and that this >>> might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am happy to organize such >> a >>> call if NABL members are interested. Please respond if you are >> interested, >>> and note days and times you are typically available. I would like to >>> schedule this call as soon as possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> www.driowa.org >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >>> with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >>> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >>> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >>> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you >> are >>> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or >> from >>> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >>> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >>> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy >> any >>> printouts. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.c >>> om >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 20:22:01 +0000 >> From: Tai Tomasi >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >> Visual Interpreter >> Message-ID: >> < >> DM5PR2001MB093800FE124FA91A180A2EC4D1050 at DM5PR2001MB0938.namprd20.prod.outlook.com >>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Thanks to all for your availability. I am working to set up a Doodle poll >> for specific dates and times, since responses are wide ranging. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or >> from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy >> any printouts. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:15 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >> Interpreter >> >> I'm also interested. My schedule is wide open right now so any time or day >> should work for me. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to participate as well. I'm pretty open right now so any day >>> is good. >>> >>> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>> Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:32 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Singh, Nandini >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira >>> Visual Interpreter >>> >>> I would like to participate. I am generally available, but prefer >>> Wednesdays or Thursdays best. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai >>> Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:38 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Tai Tomasi >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Conference Call to Discuss Use of the Aira Visual >>> Interpreter >>> >>> Hello, all. Several blind attorneys have expressed a desire to discuss >>> the use of the Aira visual interpreter in legal practice. For those >>> who are unfamiliar with the service, more information can be found at >>> www.aira.io. The service is currently working to >>> become HIPAA compliant, and they have a confidentiality and security >>> paper which I have attached to this email. >>> >>> Tim Elder did a great presentation on the ethical concerns with use of >>> Aira at our 2018 National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) meeting >>> and he has also expressed interest in participating in the call. >>> Ronza Othman mentioned that NABL used to have quarterly conference >>> calls and that this might be a good topic to revive these calls. I am >>> happy to organize such a call if NABL members are interested. Please >>> respond if you are interested, and note days and times you are >>> typically available. I would like to schedule this call as soon as >> possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> www.driowa.org >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >>> Iowans with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >>> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >>> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >>> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >>> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >>> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If >>> you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately >>> and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives >>> or storage media and destroy any printouts. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40g >>> mail.c >>> om >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gma >>> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:36:13 -0500 >> From: Michal Nowicki >> To: "Cody J. Davis" , Blind Law Mailing List >> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00 at st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Cody, >> >> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able >> to come up with more ideas collectively. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Michal Nowicki >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> Michal and Kelby, >> >> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It >> be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Kelby, >>> >>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for >> the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. >> I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and >> maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be >> available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Michal Nowicki >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:38:47 -0400 >> From: "Cody J. Davis" >> To: Michal Nowicki >> Cc: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <76190D89-1EA0-43AB-9E45-C69D6CEA44AE at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Agreed. Perhaps we can set up a conference call as some of the list >> members are doing on another issue. >> >> Respectfully, >> Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com >> Phone: (919) 349-9799 >> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Michal Nowicki >> wrote: >>> >>> Cody, >>> >>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able >> to come up with more ideas collectively. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >> Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> Michal and Kelby, >>> >>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? >> It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Kelby, >>>> >>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat >> for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job >> interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a >> job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. >> Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this >> Wednesday or Thursday? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Michal Nowicki >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with >> school. >>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of >> yet. >>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:50:09 +0000 >> From: "Nightingale, Noel" >> To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" >> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with >> Social Security Administration (Portland Office) >> Message-ID: >> < >> DM5PR09MB2265F4D8872BC1D52A59F592F9050 at DM5PR09MB2265.namprd09.prod.outlook.com >>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> >> From: washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com >> [mailto:washingtonattorneyswithdisabilitiesassociation at googlegroups.com] >> On Behalf Of Conrad Reynoldson >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 3:49 PM >> To: WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com >> Subject: [WADA] Fwd: Attorney-Advisor opening with Social Security >> Administration (Portland Office) >> >> Good Day, >> >> >> The Social Security Administration has an Attorney Advisor position open >> in its Portland, Oregon office. We kindly request that you please post the >> job opening (attached above) to your organization's website and/or forward >> the description to your members via e-mail. >> >> >> If you have any questions, please contact me. >> >> >> Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter. >> >> >> >> Joy Jenkins >> Regional Management Officer >> Office of Hearings Operations - Region 10 >> *206.615.2242 (office) >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Conrad Reynoldson, Attorney at Law >> Washington Civil & Disability Advocate >> www.wacda.com >> 3513 NE 45th Street, Suite G >> Seattle, WA 98105 >> Office (206) 855-3134 >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Washington Attorneys with Disabilities Association" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to >> WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com >> > WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com >>> . >> To post to this group, send email to >> WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com> WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation at googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/WashingtonAttorneyswithDisabilitiesAssociation >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002).docx >> Type: >> application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >> Size: 17030 bytes >> Desc: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002).docx >> URL: < >> http://nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/attachments/20180910/1b774810/attachment-0001.docx >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:56:21 -0400 >> From: Sybren Hoekstra >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help >> however I can. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Cody, >>> >>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able >> to come up with more ideas collectively. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> Michal and Kelby, >>> >>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? >> It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Kelby, >>>> >>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat >> for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job >> interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a >> job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. >> Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this >> Wednesday or Thursday? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Michal Nowicki >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with >> school. >>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of >> yet. >>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:13:01 -0400 >> From: Angie Matney >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> Message-ID: <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a >> job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with >> almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview >> experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I >> would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help >> however I can. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Cody, >>>> >>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able >> to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>> >>>> Michal >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>> >>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? >> It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kelby, >>>>> >>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat >> for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job >> interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a >> job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. >> Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this >> Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with >> school. >>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of >> yet. >>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have >> before >>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7 >> **************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 13:51:33 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:51:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> Message-ID: Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: > > I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. > > Angie > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Cody, >>> >>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> Michal and Kelby, >>> >>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> Kelby, >>>> >>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Michal Nowicki >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 14:08:13 2018 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:08:13 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> Message-ID: I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: > > Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> Cody, >>>> >>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>> >>>> Michal >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>> >>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kelby, >>>>> >>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 14:30:23 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:30:23 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>> >>> Angie >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cody, >>>>> >>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>> >>>>> Michal >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>> >>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Tue Sep 11 16:42:14 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:42:14 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>> >>> Angie >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cody, >>>>> >>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>> >>>>> Michal >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>> >>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From ashley.biggs1 at maryland.gov Tue Sep 11 17:37:36 2018 From: ashley.biggs1 at maryland.gov (Ashley Biggs -LBPH-) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:37:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Upcoming Event at LBPH - Teleconference Message-ID: Hi everyone! The library is hosting another great event via teleconference! Please feel free to join us. The press release is attached! Please feel free to share across lists. The Maryland State Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped (LBPH) is excited to announce that it will host a FREE teleconference program with attorney Michele Nethercott, Director of the Innocence Project Clinic at the University of Baltimore School of Law, focusing on the role that science plays in the conviction and exoneration of defendants in criminal cases. The event, entitled *Righting Wrongs: Scientific Evidence and the Wrongfully Convicted*, is part of a larger collaborative effort with the Maryland Humanities’ One Maryland, One Book campaign. This program is FREE and open to all Marylanders. The program is being held via conference call and is accessible via telephone only. Program details are as follows: October 15, 2018 6:30 PM Call in: 515-604-9516 Access Code: 202933 RSVP not required to attend. 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Name: Staff Attorney Vancouver 2018 09 ext.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 335873 bytes Desc: Staff Attorney Vancouver 2018 09 ext.pdf URL: From rogerbaccus at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 20:05:23 2018 From: rogerbaccus at gmail.com (rogerbaccus at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:05:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Statute Of Limitations On Creditcard Debt Message-ID: <00cd01d44a0a$c6bb7790$543266b0$@gmail.com> Can someone tell me the statute of limitations on a creditcard bill? From rogerbaccus at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 20:06:57 2018 From: rogerbaccus at gmail.com (rogerbaccus at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:06:57 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a Lien Is Put On Your Property? Message-ID: <00d201d44a0a$fef2a430$fcd7ec90$@gmail.com> Doesn't a lienholder have to notify you when they put a lien on your property? From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Sep 11 20:18:13 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:18:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Statute Of Limitations On Credit card Debt Message-ID: This list is not intended to provide legal advice and the following does not constitute legal advice. Please contact an attorney in your state. The statute of limitations for collection of such debts depends on the law in your state. In most states, it ranges from 3 to 10 years, but this varies greatly by state. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roger Baccus via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:05 PM To: BlindLaw at nfbnet.org Cc: rogerbaccus at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Statute Of Limitations On Creditcard Debt Can someone tell me the statute of limitations on a creditcard bill? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From PChang at nfb.org Tue Sep 11 20:40:28 2018 From: PChang at nfb.org (Chang, Patti) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:40:28 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a Lien Is Put On Your Property? In-Reply-To: <00d201d44a0a$fef2a430$fcd7ec90$@gmail.com> References: <00d201d44a0a$fef2a430$fcd7ec90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Generally that depends upon the lien type. For example if a judgment is already obtained no notice is required to place alien. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roger Baccus via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:07 PM To: BlindLaw at nfbnet.org Cc: rogerbaccus at gmail.com Subject: [blindlaw] Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a Lien Is Put On Your Property? Doesn't a lienholder have to notify you when they put a lien on your property? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pchang at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 21:59:21 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:59:21 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> Message-ID: <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>> >>>> Angie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cody, >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Tue Sep 11 23:18:54 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michael Nowicki) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:18:54 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thursday at 2:00 p.m. works for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>> >>>>> Angie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a good >>>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have before >>>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 07:56:50 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:26:50 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi All, While I live in India, I was recruited by a leading law firm here and have interviewed several successful legal professionals with disabilities in the US, so I'd love to join the call and share my inputs. 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On 12/09/2018, Michael Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > > Thursday at 2:00 p.m. works for me. Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all >> would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does >> anyone else have any other suggested times? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is >>> wide open for me. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally >>>> work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, >>>> that's fine. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those >>>>> free conference call services. I think something in the evening would >>>>> probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other >>>>> obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through >>>>>> a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years >>>>>> (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview >>>>>> experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. >>>>>> I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Angie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help >>>>>>> however I can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >>>>>>>> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be >>>>>>>> able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join >>>>>>>> in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, >>>>>>>>> sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful >>>>>>>>> job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might >>>>>>>>> help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am >>>>>>>>> doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone >>>>>>>>> conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with >>>>>>>>> school. >>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of >>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, >>>>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have >>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > From dianeklennon at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 12:07:49 2018 From: dianeklennon at gmail.com (Diane Lennon) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 08:07:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 172, Issue 10 conference call time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thursday at 2 is good for Mr On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 8:00 AM wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Statute Of Limitations On Creditcard Debt (rogerbaccus at gmail.com) > 2. Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a Lien Is Put On > Your Property? (rogerbaccus at gmail.com) > 3. Re: Statute Of Limitations On Credit card Debt (Tai Tomasi) > 4. Re: Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a Lien Is > Put On Your Property? (Chang, Patti) > 5. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Cody J. Davis) > 6. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Michael Nowicki) > 7. Re: Interviewing Post-Law School (Rahul Bajaj) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:05:23 -0700 > From: > To: > Subject: [blindlaw] Statute Of Limitations On Creditcard Debt > Message-ID: <00cd01d44a0a$c6bb7790$543266b0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Can someone tell me the statute of limitations on a creditcard bill? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:06:57 -0700 > From: > To: > Subject: [blindlaw] Doesn't a Lienholder Have to Notify You When a > Lien Is Put On Your Property? > Message-ID: <00d201d44a0a$fef2a430$fcd7ec90$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Doesn't a lienholder have to notify you when they put a lien on your > property? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:18:13 +0000 > From: Tai Tomasi > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Statute Of Limitations On Credit card Debt > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR2001MB09386F8DC73C0E626F3D9041D1040 at DM5PR2001MB0938.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This list is not intended to provide legal advice and the following does > not constitute legal advice. 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Davis" > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y?all > would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does > anyone else have any other suggested times? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is > wide open for me. > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Cody J. Davis > > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > > > I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days > generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, > though, that's fine. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those > free conference call services. I think something in the evening would > probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other > obligations during the day. Any thoughts? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went > through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half > years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My > interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime > interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule > permits. > >>>> > >>>> Angie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help > however I can. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cody, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Michal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Michal and Kelby, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join > in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kelby, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, > sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job > interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a > job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. > Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this > Wednesday or Thursday? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Michal Nowicki > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > >>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > >>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > school. > >>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as > of yet. > >>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind attorney, > >>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a > good > >>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have > before > >>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:18:54 -0500 > From: Michael Nowicki > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Thursday at 2:00 p.m. works for me. Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y?all > would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does > anyone else have any other suggested times? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is > wide open for me. > >> > >> Michal > >> > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >> > >> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > >> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >> Cc: Cody J. Davis > >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >> > >> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days > generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, > though, that's fine. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those > free conference call services. I think something in the evening would > probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other > obligations during the day. Any thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went > through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half > years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My > interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime > interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule > permits. > >>>>> > >>>>> Angie > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help > however I can. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cody, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able > to come up with more ideas collectively. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Michal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > >>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join > in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kelby, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, > sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job > interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a > job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. > Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this > Wednesday or Thursday? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > >>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > school. > >>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as > of yet. > >>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind > attorney, > >>>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a > good > >>>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have > before > >>>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra%40gmail.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for BlindLaw: > >>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:26:50 +0530 > From: Rahul Bajaj > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > Message-ID: > UoTu0W8sWdV_ELcXBeUdtUTM_Qm6yDY0U6JRbw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi All, > > While I live in India, I was recruited by a leading law firm here and > have interviewed several successful legal professionals with > disabilities in the US, so I'd love to join the call and share my > inputs. > > Best, > Rahul > > On 12/09/2018, Michael Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > > > > > Thursday at 2:00 p.m. works for me. Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > >> wrote: > >> > >> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y?all > >> would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? > Does > >> anyone else have any other suggested times? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is > >>> wide open for me. > >>> > >>> Michal > >>> > >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>> > >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis > >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>> > >>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days > generally > >>>> work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, > >>>> that's fine. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those > >>>>> free conference call services. I think something in the evening would > >>>>> probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other > >>>>> obligations during the day. Any thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went > through > >>>>>> a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half > years > >>>>>> (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My > interview > >>>>>> experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime > interviews. > >>>>>> I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Angie > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help > >>>>>>> however I can. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cody, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be > >>>>>>>> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may > be > >>>>>>>> able to come up with more ideas collectively. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Michal > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM > >>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join > >>>>>>>> in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Kelby, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, > >>>>>>>>> sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several > unsuccessful > >>>>>>>>> job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might > >>>>>>>>> help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am > >>>>>>>>> doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone > >>>>>>>>> conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM > >>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > >>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> All, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with > >>>>>>>>> school. > >>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as > of > >>>>>>>>> yet. > >>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind > attorney, > >>>>>>>>> specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns and make a > >>>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>> impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews should one have > >>>>>>>>> before > >>>>>>>>> it's reasonable to be really concerned? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: > >>>>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 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<3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>> >>>> Angie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cody, >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra >>>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%4 >>> 0gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40iclo > ud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 12 15:30:45 2018 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:30:45 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] =?utf-8?q?Social_Security_Administration=E2=80=99s_OH?= =?utf-8?q?O--hiring_an_Attorney_Advisor_in_Portland/Seattle/Eugene?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: 'Daquiz, Abigail - SOL' via Federal Attorneys Networking Group of Seattle [mailto:fangseattle at googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:17 PM To: fangseattle at googlegroups.com Subject: [fangs] Social Security Administration’s OHO--hiring an Attorney Advisor in Portland/Seattle/Eugene Posting for Attorney Advisor Openings Position: Attorney Advisor Type of Appointment: Full-time-Excepted Service (Not to Exceed (NTE) Four-year (4) appointment, may be extended or made permanent). Locations: Portland, Oregon, Seattle, WA, and Eugene, Oregon Application Deadline: as soon as possible. Acceptance required by 9/30/18 but new employee can report up until 10/14/18. Position Description and Duties: The position is for an Attorney Advisor for the Social Security Administration’s Office of Hearings Operations. The issues largely relate to disability determinations in applications for Social Security Disability Benefits and Supplemental Security Income. An Attorney Advisor drafts grammatically and technically correct, persuasive, legally sufficient decisions on behalf of Administrative Law Judges which are supported by the evidence and addresses all medical and legal aspects of the case. An Attorney Advisor ensures the decisions are appropriate for issuance to claimants and representatives and are consistent with the agency rules and regulations. An Attorney Advisor reviews and analyzes remanded decisions to ensure Court and/or Agency instructions are followed. As appropriate, an Attorney Advisor makes recommendations to the Administrative Law Judges to ensure an accurate, legally sufficient decision is issued. Skills: • Exceptional legal writing skills, including great attention to detail. • Ability to produce high quality work product within designated time constraints. • Ability to review and analyze voluminous medical records efficiently. Salary range: The Attorney Advisor position is subject to the Government General Schedule pay scale. The Attorney Advisor position is categorized as a GS 9/11/12 position. Salary will be determined based on experience as adjusted for the locality. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2017/general-schedule/ To Apply: Submit a cover letter, proof of bar membership and good standing, resume, references, and writing sample of no more than seven (7) pages in length. In addition, you may be required to take a time writing test. 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Name: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002) (003).docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 17107 bytes Desc: Posting for Attorney Openings with Social Security Admin_ (002) (003).docx URL: From jameyanne at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 16:14:50 2018 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:14:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>> >>>> Angie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cody, >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra >>>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%4 >>> 0gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40iclo > ud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From howardadelsberg at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 16:25:33 2018 From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:25:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw wrote: > > Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. > Jameyanne > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Luis Mendez > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>> >>>>> Angie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sy.hoekstra >>>>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney >>>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40g >>> mail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40iclo >> ud.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/howardadelsberg%40gmail.com From howardadelsberg at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 18:38:24 2018 From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:38:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] software query Message-ID: NYS is about to buy me software to help me get back into practice. In addition to jaws, and a pearl scanner, what do you recommend? -- Howard M. Adelsberg From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 19:35:11 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:35:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. Call in #: 605-472-5525 Access code: 541655 I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. Does this work for everyone? Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >> >> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >> Jameyanne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Luis Mendez >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Angie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> 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quarry Message-ID: I am returning to practice after losing my vision. New York State has offered to purchase software for me. In addition to Joy’s what are the software do you recommend? From howardadelsberg at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 20:00:17 2018 From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:00:17 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Software quarry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for the typos. It should’ve been JAws > On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Howard Adelsberg wrote: > > I am returning to practice after losing my vision. New York State has offered to purchase software for me. In addition to Joy’s what are the software do you recommend? From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Sep 12 20:11:47 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:11:47 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Software quarry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howard: In addition to JAWS, I recommend that you request some optical character recognition software. You don't necessarily need software designed specifically for blind users, though if you are already familiar with Kurzweil or OpenBook, you will face less of a learning curve. If you do not already know a particular OCR program, I recommend ABBYY FineReader or OmniPage. These are commercial software programs that can recognize documents and convert to many document formats including Microsoft Word. FineReader and OmniPage are significantly less expensive than Kurzweil or OpenBook, though cost may not be a concern for you. I use ABBYY FineReader for all OCR. These software packages can convert most PDF documents to largely legible Word documents, as long as the documents aren't handwritten. If you need to be able to scan hard copy documents, you will need to buy a scanner. I have had good luck with Fujitsu and HP machines. Some Samsung all-in-one scanner/printer models are powered by Android tablets which have some screen reading capabilities, but these machines are expensive to purchase. My office rents me one for approximately $20 a month. If you need a new laptop, I recommend the HP Spectre 13" or the Lenovo X1 Carbon. These are powerful, small and lightweight machines ideal for those who do not require use of larger screens. Ask for at least 8GB of RAM, the highest speed processor you can get, and a solid state drive (SSD) for file storage. If you have questions, please contact me off list at ttomasi at driowa.org. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:59 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Howard Adelsberg Subject: [blindlaw] Software quarry I am returning to practice after losing my vision. New York State has offered to purchase software for me. In addition to Joy’s what are the software do you recommend? _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From howardadelsberg at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 20:26:57 2018 From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:26:57 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Software quarry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E8DF6E0-52D3-4272-AB79-6CD4923780C7@gmail.com> Right now New York State is willing to get me open books, a laptop, JAws And a pearl scanner > On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > > Howard: > > In addition to JAWS, I recommend that you request some optical character recognition software. You don't necessarily need software designed specifically for blind users, though if you are already familiar with Kurzweil or OpenBook, you will face less of a learning curve. If you do not already know a particular OCR program, I recommend ABBYY FineReader or OmniPage. These are commercial software programs that can recognize documents and convert to many document formats including Microsoft Word. FineReader and OmniPage are significantly less expensive than Kurzweil or OpenBook, though cost may not be a concern for you. I use ABBYY FineReader for all OCR. > > These software packages can convert most PDF documents to largely legible Word documents, as long as the documents aren't handwritten. If you need to be able to scan hard copy documents, you will need to buy a scanner. I have had good luck with Fujitsu and HP machines. Some Samsung all-in-one scanner/printer models are powered by Android tablets which have some screen reading capabilities, but these machines are expensive to purchase. My office rents me one for approximately $20 a month. > > If you need a new laptop, I recommend the HP Spectre 13" or the Lenovo X1 Carbon. These are powerful, small and lightweight machines ideal for those who do not require use of larger screens. Ask for at least 8GB of RAM, the highest speed processor you can get, and a solid state drive (SSD) for file storage. If you have questions, please contact me off list at ttomasi at driowa.org. > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:59 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Howard Adelsberg > Subject: [blindlaw] Software quarry > > I am returning to practice after losing my vision. New York State has offered to purchase software for me. In addition to Joy’s what are the software do you recommend? > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/howard.adelsberg%40gmail.com From rodalcidonis at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 20:37:47 2018 From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:37:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com><0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com><3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com><0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com><0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com><63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com><2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com><0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com><1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com><010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com><006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> Message-ID: What timezone? Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:35 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. Call in #: 605-472-5525 Access code: 541655 I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. Does this work for everyone? Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw > wrote: > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw >> > wrote: >> >> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be >> able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key >> takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >> Jameyanne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Luis Mendez >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview >> process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to >> participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all >> would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? >> Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is >>> wide open for me. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days >>>> generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, >>>> though, that's fine. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those >>>>> free conference call services. I think something in the evening would >>>>> probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other >>>>> obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went >>>>>> through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a >>>>>> half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). >>>>>> My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and >>>>>> facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my >>>>>> schedule permits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Angie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help >>>>>>> however I can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be >>>>>>>> interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may >>>>>>>> be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join >>>>>>>> in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, >>>>>>>>> sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several >>>>>>>>> unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions >>>>>>>>> that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me >>>>>>>>> identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for >>>>>>>>> a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with >>>>>>>>> school. >>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as >>>>>>>>> of yet. >>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>>> for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw 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change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/howardadelsberg%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu Sep 13 16:51:56 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:51:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> Cody, Could you please clarify the time zone? We do want to make sure everyone calls in at the same time. Thanks. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:44 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Cody J. Davis Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. Call in #: 605-472-5525 Access code: 541655 I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. Does this work for everyone? Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >> >> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >> Jameyanne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: Luis Mendez >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Angie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> 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options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Thu Sep 13 17:25:00 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:25:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> Message-ID: <4754663F-1C22-4A3B-AE4D-5E5D3D4DF69A@gmail.com> It is 2 PM Eastern. Sorry, I attempted to send out that clarification last night but it appears it did not leave my outbox. If 2 PM Eastern today is too late notice, we can try for something next week. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Cody, > > Could you please clarify the time zone? We do want to make sure everyone calls in at the same time. Thanks. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:44 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Cody J. Davis > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. > > Call in #: 605-472-5525 > Access code: 541655 > > I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. > > Does this work for everyone? > > Respectfully, > Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com > Phone: (919) 349-9799 > Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >>> Jameyanne >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Cc: Luis Mendez >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >>> >>> Luis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>>> >>>> Michal >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Angie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> BlindLaw 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change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40iclo >>>> ud.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gm >>>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/howardadelsberg%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu Sep 13 17:39:56 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michael Nowicki) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:39:56 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <4754663F-1C22-4A3B-AE4D-5E5D3D4DF69A@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <4754663F-1C22-4A3B-AE4D-5E5D3D4DF69A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <092D8572-B427-4D46-A8BD-F7E92CC34E98@icloud.com> It works for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: > > It is 2 PM Eastern. Sorry, I attempted to send out that clarification last night but it appears it did not leave my outbox. If 2 PM Eastern today is too late notice, we can try for something next week. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Cody, >> >> Could you please clarify the time zone? We do want to make sure everyone calls in at the same time. Thanks. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:44 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. >> >> Call in #: 605-472-5525 >> Access code: 541655 >> >> I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. >> >> Does this work for everyone? >> >> Respectfully, >> Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com >> Phone: (919) 349-9799 >> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 >> >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >>>> Jameyanne >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Cc: Luis Mendez >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >>>> >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>>>> >>>>> Michal >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Angie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's concerns >>>>>>>>>>> and make a good impression? And how many unsuccessful interviews >>>>>>>>>>> should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4% >>>>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis919 >>>>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 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http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 14:12:21 2018 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody J. Davis) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:12:21 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Recording of call on interviewing Message-ID: All, Below is the info to access a recording of our call yesterday. Call 605-475-4981 Enter access code 541655 Follow prompts to listen to the most recent recording Ignore the message when you first call in that says your call cannot be completed. Also, there’s a lot of dead air in the beginning, so you can press 6 to fast-toward in 1 minute intervals. Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 From ttomasi at driowa.org Fri Sep 14 19:57:17 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:57:17 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in Law Practice Message-ID: Hello, all. I have set up a Doodle Poll to determine availability for a phone conversation regarding use of Aira in legal practice. If you have any issues accessing the poll, please let me know. https://doodle.com/poll/sbqi6k4ckzxxchzu Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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The Housing Justice Project at the King County Bar Association is hiring a staff attorney and social worker for its Seattle office. Please forward to anyone who may be interested. Listings below: http://www.kcba.org/About-KCBA/Jobs/Staff-Attorney-for-Housing-Justice-Project http://www.kcba.org/About-KCBA/Jobs/Social-Worker-for-Housing-Justice-Project Best, Edmund Witter Managing Attorney Housing Justice Project 1200 5th Ave Suite 700 Seattle, WA 98101 (206) 267-7019 --- You are currently subscribed to atj-community as: daquiz.abigail at dol.gov. To access web features of this list, visit list.wsba.org/read/ Please send an email to the list administrator to update the list administrator with changes to your email address. -- -- You received this message because you are a federal agency attorney and subscribed to the FANGS group. To SEND A MESSAGE to this group, email to fangseattle at googlegroups.com. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, email fangseattle+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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Time is a large component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers won't line up. Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. However, I have no idea how to format that. If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Ben From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Sep 18 13:58:29 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:58:29 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each of these provinces. Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Ben Fulton Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi all, I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time dealing with the index. Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers won't line up. Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. However, I have no idea how to format that. If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Ben _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From GHardy at harrisbrun.com Tue Sep 18 15:53:11 2018 From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:53:11 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07@HBSERVER.HB.local> Hi Ben, I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow anyone down, sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. Let me know if you have any other questions. 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Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:38 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Ben Fulton Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi all, I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time dealing with the index. Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers won't line up. Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. However, I have no idea how to format that. If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Ben _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ghardy%40harrisbrun.com From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 16:01:00 2018 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:01:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <092D8572-B427-4D46-A8BD-F7E92CC34E98@icloud.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <4754663F-1C22-4A3B-AE4D-5E5D3D4DF69A@gmail.com> <092D8572-B427-4D46-A8BD-F7E92CC34E98@icloud.com> Message-ID: <01e201d44f68$cbde8ce0$639ba6a0$@gmail.com> Was there ever a recording of this call? If so, where can we find it? Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:40 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michael Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School It works for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: > > It is 2 PM Eastern. Sorry, I attempted to send out that clarification last night but it appears it did not leave my outbox. If 2 PM Eastern today is too late notice, we can try for something next week. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Cody, >> >> Could you please clarify the time zone? We do want to make sure everyone calls in at the same time. Thanks. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:44 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Cody J. Davis >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >> >> All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. >> >> Call in #: 605-472-5525 >> Access code: 541655 >> >> I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. >> >> Does this work for everyone? >> >> Respectfully, >> Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com >> Phone: (919) 349-9799 >> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 >> >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >>>> Jameyanne >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis >>>> Mendez via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>> Cc: Luis Mendez >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >>>> >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. >>>> Davis via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>> >>>> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>>>> >>>>> Michal >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Angie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's >>>>>>>>>>> concerns and make a good impression? 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Just a reminder to participate in the Doodle Poll regarding our discussion of Aira. I have only received two responses regarding the best dates and times. The link is below: https://doodle.com/poll/sbqi6k4ckzxxchzu Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. 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Davis) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:17:14 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School In-Reply-To: <01e201d44f68$cbde8ce0$639ba6a0$@gmail.com> References: <6a6bb080-b0ae-9f7b-c49e-a8636782e81d@gmail.com> <0PEU006OML874H30@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <3F788105-C7E0-4C1E-A9F5-F7C9DC2758DF@gmail.com> <0PEV00NZP00B2Q00@st11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> <0F267547-0DB7-4E85-9828-B6231C4D15A4@gmail.com> <63AB3C27-8169-4ACC-AA65-B6A482ABE250@gmail.com> <2B025486-3A76-4FAE-BC69-C9BA51D880C6@gmail.com> <0PEW00ENHH2D8O00@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <1127CC59-0EF2-4C81-BA6B-2CA914CA37EF@gmail.com> <010401d44aa6$41f181c0$c5d48540$@gmail.com> <006a01d44ab3$bbb6fc80$3324f580$@gmail.com> <0B299F0D-5288-4947-A60A-54195AE61F8B@gmail.com> <0PF000BLK6UKBY30@st11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> <4754663F-1C22-4A3B-AE4D-5E5D3D4DF69A@gmail.com> <092D8572-B427-4D46-A8BD-F7E92CC34E98@icloud.com> <01e201d44f68$cbde8ce0$639ba6a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <833E3ACB-CB68-4063-B212-EED070174E69@gmail.com> All, Below is the info to access a recording of our call yesterday. Call 605-475-4981 Enter access code 541655 Follow prompts to listen to the most recent recording Ignore the message when you first call in that says your call cannot be completed. Also, there’s a lot of dead air in the beginning, so you can press 6 to fast-toward in 1 minute intervals. Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 Respectfully, Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Phone: (919) 349-9799 Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 > On Sep 18, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw wrote: > > Was there ever a recording of this call? If so, where can we find it? > > Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:40 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michael Nowicki > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School > > It works for me. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> It is 2 PM Eastern. Sorry, I attempted to send out that clarification last night but it appears it did not leave my outbox. If 2 PM Eastern today is too late notice, we can try for something next week. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Cody, >>> >>> Could you please clarify the time zone? We do want to make sure everyone calls in at the same time. Thanks. >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:44 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>> >>> All, It seems like tomorrow at 2PM is a good time for most. Here’s the information for the call in. I should be able to record the call and others wo cannot call in tomorrow can call a number later to listen to the recording. >>> >>> Call in #: 605-472-5525 >>> Access code: 541655 >>> >>> I’ll send out the information to access the recording after the call. >>> >>> Does this work for everyone? >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> Cody J. Davis, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com >>> Phone: (919) 349-9799 >>> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/cody-davis-635395142 >>> >>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I have class on Thursdays from 1:00 to 6:15, so I won't be able to make the call. If someone could send me notes on the key takeaways, I would really appreciate it. >>>>> Jameyanne >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis >>>>> Mendez via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:38 AM >>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>>>> Cc: Luis Mendez >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> I practiced for 36 years and experienced both sides of the interview process. While I am know longer practicing, I would be happy to participate in the call and share any observations that might be useful. >>>>> >>>>> Luis >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Cody J. >>>>> Davis via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:59 PM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>> >>>>> I have a conference call account with free conference call.com if y’all would like to use that. How does Thursday at 2 PM work for you folks? Does anyone else have any other suggested times? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an interview later this afternoon, but the rest of the week is wide open for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michal >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:37 AM >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: Cody J. Davis >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>> >>>>>> I am cool with mornings or afternoons any day this week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:08 AM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know tomorrow during the day isn't the best for me, but days generally work better than evenings. If evening is better for everyone, though, that's fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Cody J. Davis via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Given the interest in the job search call, we could use one of those free conference call services. I think something in the evening would probably be best in case there are some who might work or have other obligations during the day. Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:13 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think this is a great topic for a call. I also recently went through a job hunt after having been out of school for eight and a half years (with almost eight of those spent working for one firm). My interview experiences included in-person, telephone, and facetime interviews. I would be interested in joining the call if my schedule permits. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Angie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Sybren Hoekstra via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I recently went through a long job hunt, and would be happy to help however I can. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 17:36, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cody, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if you could join the call. Would anyone else be interested in joining? The more of us join, the better, as we may be able to come up with more ideas collectively. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Cody J. Davis >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michal and Kelby, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you to have a phone call to discuss this, do you mind if I join in? It be great if we could do a three-way call to share ideas. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kelby, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am in a similar situation. I graduated from law school in May, sat for the Illinois bar exam in July, and had several unsuccessful job interviews. I do, however, have some suggestions that might help you get a job, and maybe you could help me identify if I am doing anything wrong. Would you be available for a brief phone conversation anytime this Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Michal Nowicki >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Interviewing Post-Law School >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still working on obtaining employment now that I'm done with school. >>>>>>>>>>>> I've had reasonable success getting interviews, but no offers as of yet. >>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have tips as far as interviewing as a blind >>>>>>>>>>>> attorney, specifically? Best ways to diffuse people's >>>>>>>>>>>> concerns and make a good impression? And how many >>>>>>>>>>>> unsuccessful interviews should one have before it's reasonable to be really concerned? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowic >>>>>>>>>>>> ki4% >>>>>>>>>>>> 40icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavi >>>>>>>>>>>> s919 >>>>>>>>>>>> 3%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 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18:54:16 2018 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:54:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004501d44f81$05716500$10542f00$@sbgaal.com> I wonder if it is because the doodle is so inaccessible. I had to have my sighted husband put in the dates and times I am available. And maybe it is just me; maybe it is accessible for others. Just a thought. You might want to give some tips on using it; I was using my I-Phone. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice Hello, all. Just a reminder to participate in the Doodle Poll regarding our discussion of Aira. I have only received two responses regarding the best dates and times. The link is below: https://doodle.com/poll/sbqi6k4ckzxxchzu Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue Sep 18 19:05:13 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:13 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice In-Reply-To: <004501d44f81$05716500$10542f00$@sbgaal.com> References: <004501d44f81$05716500$10542f00$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: Shannon: I am so sorry you found it inaccessible. I am a totally blind JAWS user and frequently use Doodle. I have never needed sighted assistance to use it. I wonder if it has become less accessible since I last used it. The last time I used it, it required use of JAWS commands for navigating tables, but it was the most accessible platform I had ever used for this function. Creating and sending out a Doodle poll was also very accessible. Does anyone know of a more accessible means of disseminating a poll to set up a meeting? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice I wonder if it is because the doodle is so inaccessible. I had to have my sighted husband put in the dates and times I am available. And maybe it is just me; maybe it is accessible for others. Just a thought. You might want to give some tips on using it; I was using my I-Phone. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice Hello, all. Just a reminder to participate in the Doodle Poll regarding our discussion of Aira. I have only received two responses regarding the best dates and times. The link is below: https://doodle.com/poll/sbqi6k4ckzxxchzu Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From sbg at sbgaal.com Tue Sep 18 20:00:26 2018 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:00:26 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice In-Reply-To: References: <004501d44f81$05716500$10542f00$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: <006901d44f8a$44289b20$cc79d160$@sbgaal.com> Tai, Don't be sorry. It may be because I was using Safari rather than Jaws or it may just be me. I just thought I should say something since I found it inaccessible. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:05 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice Shannon: I am so sorry you found it inaccessible. I am a totally blind JAWS user and frequently use Doodle. I have never needed sighted assistance to use it. I wonder if it has become less accessible since I last used it. The last time I used it, it required use of JAWS commands for navigating tables, but it was the most accessible platform I had ever used for this function. Creating and sending out a Doodle poll was also very accessible. Does anyone know of a more accessible means of disseminating a poll to set up a meeting? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:54 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice I wonder if it is because the doodle is so inaccessible. I had to have my sighted husband put in the dates and times I am available. And maybe it is just me; maybe it is accessible for others. Just a thought. You might want to give some tips on using it; I was using my I-Phone. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira Visual Interpreter in Legal Practice Hello, all. Just a reminder to participate in the Doodle Poll regarding our discussion of Aira. I have only received two responses regarding the best dates and times. The link is below: https://doodle.com/poll/sbqi6k4ckzxxchzu Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Wed Sep 19 13:25:19 2018 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:25:19 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Message-ID: Hi Tai and Graham, Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and am cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for another word document at this time would help. As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have a file for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file. Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him about designing html links. I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their help to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school itself. I could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave me to apply to jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing out how bad they looked visually before I realized there was a problem, and this was after I made it explicit that I needed their help making the information visually presentable. I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was able to talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It would be great talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years. I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate using that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help. I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in a document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, but are there other functions that could help? Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks, Ben Fulton _______ From: Graham Hardy To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07 at HBSERVER.HB.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ben, I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow anyone down, sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. Let me know if you have any other questions. Graham Hardy | Lawyer? 604-608-2043?|?ghardy at harrisbrun.com? HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION?- Barristers & Solicitors 500 - 555 West Georgia ?Vancouver ?BC ?V6B 1Z6 Phone: 604-683-2466 ??Fax: 604-683-4541 ??www.harrisbrun.com This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ------------------------------ From: Tai Tomasi To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each of these provinces. Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Ben Fulton Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi all, I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time dealing with the index. Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers won't line up. Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. However, I have no idea how to format that. If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Ben ________________________________________ From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Sep 19 13:50:05 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:50:05 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ben: Navigate to the text you wish to make into a heading, hit the home key, select the line with control shift down arrow or select by word using control shift right arrow. Once you have selected the text you wish to convert into a heading, Hit alt control 1 to make it a level 1 heading, alt control 2 to make it a second-level heading, etc. Once you have identified all of your headings in this manner, you can hit insert F6 to bring up a list of headings and the text identifying these headings. Arrow to the heading you want and press enter to navigate to it. This makes document navigation really simple. Perhaps other list members know of even easier methods for accomplishing this, but I have found this a timesaver in the long run despite significant work on the front end. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:25 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Ben Fulton Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi Tai and Graham, Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and am cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for another word document at this time would help. As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have a file for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file. Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him about designing html links. I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their help to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school itself. I could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave me to apply to jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing out how bad they looked visually before I realized there was a problem, and this was after I made it explicit that I needed their help making the information visually presentable. I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was able to talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It would be great talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years. I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate using that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help. I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in a document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, but are there other functions that could help? Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks, Ben Fulton _______ From: Graham Hardy To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07 at HBSERVER.HB.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ben, I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much that having an open book sho uld be a memory aid and can slow anyone down, sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. Let me know if you have any other questions. Graham Hardy | Lawyer? 604-608-2043?|?ghardy at harrisbrun.com? HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION?- Barristers & Solicitors 500 - 555 West Georgia ?Vancouver ?BC ?V6B 1Z6 Phone: 604-683-2466 ??Fax: 604-683-4541 ??www.harrisbrun.com This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ------------------------------ From: Tai Tomasi To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each of these provinces. Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Ben Fulton Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi all, I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time dealing with the index. Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers won't line up. Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. However, I have no idea how to format that. If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Ben ________________________________________ _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 13:53:40 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:23:40 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ben, I live in India and gave the bar exam here last year. While it is admittedly a much easier exam than the bar exam in North America, inasmuch as we're asked fairly basic questions that require us to find section numbers and case names relating to a given rule in contradistinction to fact patterns in which you'd have to apply the law, here are a few things I found helpful, for what they are worth: First, I think dividing the material into different word files based on the concerned subject area is absolutely critical which is something that you're already doing, as opposed to having a lot of content in one place. Second, the find command is fairly straightforward to use and acquiring mastery over the command is vital. One useful pointer might be to use control+ page down to the next search result and control+page up to go to the previous one, as opposed to having to go back to the find box and press enter each time. You can also use the find command that is specifically for JAWS users, control+insert=f, but I don't think that is necessary in word documents. Third, as Graham says, you can use the quick navigation keys, insert+z and then use h to jump from one heading to another. Fourth, you might want to put a lot of bookmarks/ place markers in the word documents that you're working with, to make it easier to access relevant pieces of information. Kindly see Michael Nowiki's mail on this list to find out how to do this, even though his advice was qua PDFs. Fifth, again, as Graham says, trying to minimize one's dependence on the open book material is always a good idea, doubly so for someone who is blind and dependent on technology which is not always reliable. Best, Rahul

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On 19/09/2018, Ben Fulton via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Tai and Graham, > > Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and am > cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for another > word document at this time would help. > > As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have a file > for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file. > > Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him about > designing html links. > > I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their help > to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school itself. I > could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave me to apply to > jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing out how bad they looked > visually before I realized there was a problem, and this was after I made it > explicit that I needed their help making the information visually > presentable. > > I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was able to > talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It would be great > talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years. > > I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate using > that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help. > > I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in a > document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, but are > there other functions that could help? > > Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ben Fulton > > _______ > > From: Graham Hardy > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07 at HBSERVER.HB.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Ben, > > I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a > much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I > approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in > Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I > had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles > so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew > that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, > as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large > section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer > to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate > quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands > to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it > may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much > that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow anyone down, > sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should > try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. > > Let me know if you have any other questions. > > > Graham Hardy | Lawyer? 604-608-2043?|?ghardy at harrisbrun.com? > > > HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION?- Barristers & Solicitors > 500 - 555 West Georgia ?Vancouver ?BC ?V6B 1Z6 > Phone: 604-683-2466 ??Fax: 604-683-4541 ??www.harrisbrun.com > > > This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named > above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The > contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client > privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not > waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us > immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and > destroy the original transmission without making a copy. > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Tai Tomasi > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. > Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each > of these provinces. > > Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert > it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys > who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are > you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and > would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via > BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ben Fulton > Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > > > Hi all, > > I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question > exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. > > The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time > dealing with the index. > > Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use > to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of > the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four > day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. > > For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it > to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that > other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers > won't line up. > > Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded > links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links > within an index to quickly go to where I need to. > > However, I have no idea how to format that. > > If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > Ben > > > > ________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > From GHardy at harrisbrun.com Wed Sep 19 15:51:51 2018 From: GHardy at harrisbrun.com (Graham Hardy) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:51:51 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE84164@HBSERVER.HB.local> I would add another two points to Tai and Rahul. First, when marking headings with Ctrl+Alt+1, 2, 3, etc, it is not necessary to select the text. This is because the heading styles are paragraph styles and apply to the whole of a Word paragraph as soon as they are applied. Second, I don't remember if you use JAWS or NVDA or something else, but in the JAWS quick navigation mode or the NVDA browse mode, you can use numbers to move to a level of the corresponding number. For instance, I had my materials for a specific subject area (civil procedure, real estate, professional ethics, etc) in one file, and to jump amongst the chapters I could simply enable JAWS quick navigation with Insert+Z and press the number 1 to move forward or Shift+1 to move backward. To drill down, of course, assuming you had marked the headings out correctly, you could use 2, 3, and so on, to locate other headings. Third, there is also a tree view in most later Word versions in the navigation pane, navigated to with a few presses of F6, that allows you to move through and collapse levels of headings with the arrow keys. Last time I tried using this feature it was deficient in the sense that JAWS didn't announce the level of heading and it was a bit confusing to use. Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com  HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION - Barristers & Solicitors 500 - 555 West Georgia  Vancouver  BC  V6B 1Z6 Phone: 604-683-2466   Fax: 604-683-4541   www.harrisbrun.com This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:54 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj; Ben Fulton Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi Ben, I live in India and gave the bar exam here last year. While it is admittedly a much easier exam than the bar exam in North America, inasmuch as we're asked fairly basic questions that require us to find section numbers and case names relating to a given rule in contradistinction to fact patterns in which you'd have to apply the law, here are a few things I found helpful, for what they are worth: First, I think dividing the material into different word files based on the concerned subject area is absolutely critical which is something that you're already doing, as opposed to having a lot of content in one place. Second, the find command is fairly straightforward to use and acquiring mastery over the command is vital. One useful pointer might be to use control+ page down to the next search result and control+page up to go to the previous one, as opposed to having to go back to the find box and press enter each time. You can also use the find command that is specifically for JAWS users, control+insert=f, but I don't think that is necessary in word documents. Third, as Graham says, you can use the quick navigation keys, insert+z and then use h to jump from one heading to another. Fourth, you might want to put a lot of bookmarks/ place markers in the word documents that you're working with, to make it easier to access relevant pieces of information. Kindly see Michael Nowiki's mail on this list to find out how to do this, even though his advice was qua PDFs. Fifth, again, as Graham says, trying to minimize one's dependence on the open book material is always a good idea, doubly so for someone who is blind and dependent on technology which is not always reliable. Best, Rahul

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On 19/09/2018, Ben Fulton via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Tai and Graham, > > Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and am > cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for another > word document at this time would help. > > As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have a file > for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file. > > Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him about > designing html links. > > I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their help > to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school itself. I > could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave me to apply to > jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing out how bad they looked > visually before I realized there was a problem, and this was after I made it > explicit that I needed their help making the information visually > presentable. > > I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was able to > talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It would be great > talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years. > > I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate using > that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help. > > I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in a > document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, but are > there other functions that could help? > > Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ben Fulton > > _______ > > From: Graham Hardy > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07 at HBSERVER.HB.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Ben, > > I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a > much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I > approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in > Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I > had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles > so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew > that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, > as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large > section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer > to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate > quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands > to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it > may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much > that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow anyone down, > sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should > try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. > > Let me know if you have any other questions. > > > Graham Hardy | Lawyer? 604-608-2043?|?ghardy at harrisbrun.com? > > > HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION?- Barristers & Solicitors > 500 - 555 West Georgia ?Vancouver ?BC ?V6B 1Z6 > Phone: 604-683-2466 ??Fax: 604-683-4541 ??www.harrisbrun.com > > > This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named > above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The > contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client > privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not > waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us > immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and > destroy the original transmission without making a copy. > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Tai Tomasi > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. > Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each > of these provinces. > > Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert > it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys > who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are > you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and > would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton via > BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ben Fulton > Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > > > Hi all, > > I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question > exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. > > The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time > dealing with the index. > > Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use > to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of > the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four > day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. > > For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it > to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that > other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers > won't line up. > > Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded > links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links > within an index to quickly go to where I need to. > > However, I have no idea how to format that. > > If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > Ben > > > > ________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ghardy%40harrisbrun.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Wed Sep 19 16:09:25 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:09:25 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam In-Reply-To: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE84164@HBSERVER.HB.local> References: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE84164@HBSERVER.HB.local> Message-ID: Graham: Thanks for the tip about not needing to select the text to mark it as a heading. I was unaware of this, and this will save me some time. I appreciate your technical knowledge. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Graham Hardy via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:52 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Graham Hardy Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam I would add another two points to Tai and Rahul. First, when marking headings with Ctrl+Alt+1, 2, 3, etc, it is not necessary to select the text. This is because the heading styles are paragraph styles and apply to the whole of a Word paragraph as soon as they are applied. Second, I don't remember if you use JAWS or NVDA or something else, but in the JAWS quick navigation mode or the NVDA browse mode, you can use numbers to move to a level of the corresponding number. For instance, I had my materials for a specific subject area (civil procedure, real estate, professional ethics, etc) in one file, and to jump amongst the chapters I could simply enable JAWS quick navigation with Insert+Z and press the number 1 to move forward or Shift+1 to move backward. To drill down, of course, assuming you had marked the headings out correctly, you could use 2, 3, and so on, to locate other headings. Third, there is also a tree view in most later Word versions in the navigation pane, navigated to with a few presses of F6, that allows you to move through and collapse levels of headings with the arrow keys. Last time I tried using this feature it was deficient in the sense that JAWS didn't announce the level of heading and it was a bit confusing to use. Graham Hardy | Lawyer  604-608-2043 | ghardy at harrisbrun.com  HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION - Barristers & Solicitors 500 - 555 West Georgia  Vancouver  BC  V6B 1Z6 Phone: 604-683-2466   Fax: 604-683-4541   www.harrisbrun.com This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:54 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj; Ben Fulton Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam Hi Ben, I live in India and gave the bar exam here last year. While it is admittedly a much easier exam than the bar exam in North America, inasmuch as we're asked fairly basic questions that require us to find section numbers and case names relating to a given rule in contradistinction to fact patterns in which you'd have to apply the law, here are a few things I found helpful, for what they are worth: First, I think dividing the material into different word files based on the concerned subject area is absolutely critical which is something that you're already doing, as opposed to having a lot of content in one place. Second, the find command is fairly straightforward to use and acquiring mastery over the command is vital. One useful pointer might be to use control+ page down to the next search result and control+page up to go to the previous one, as opposed to having to go back to the find box and press enter each time. You can also use the find command that is specifically for JAWS users, control+insert=f, but I don't think that is necessary in word documents. Third, as Graham says, you can use the quick navigation keys, insert+z and then use h to jump from one heading to another. Fourth, you might want to put a lot of bookmarks/ place markers in the word documents that you're working with, to make it easier to access relevant pieces of information. Kindly see Michael Nowiki's mail on this list to find out how to do this, even though his advice was qua PDFs. Fifth, again, as Graham says, trying to minimize one's dependence on the open book material is always a good idea, doubly so for someone who is blind and dependent on technology which is not always reliable. Best, Rahul

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On 19/09/2018, Ben Fulton via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Tai and Graham, > > Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and > am cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for > another word document at this time would help. > > As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have > a file for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file. > > Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him > about designing html links. > > I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their > help to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school > itself. I could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave > me to apply to jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing > out how bad they looked visually before I realized there was a > problem, and this was after I made it explicit that I needed their > help making the information visually presentable. > > I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was > able to talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It > would be great talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years. > > I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate > using that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help. > > I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in > a document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, > but are there other functions that could help? > > Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ben Fulton > > _______ > > From: Graham Hardy > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: <068D1E907F363C42B7852C27A6E6273FE82C07 at HBSERVER.HB.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Ben, > > I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience > (though a much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. > First, when I approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me > their source files in Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, > formatted for printing and I had to clean up their formatting quite a > bit. I also applied heading styles so that I could jump around using > JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew that many students used indices > but I didn't bother trying to rely on those, as I knew that having a > page number would only point to a rather large section of a document, > given the small font, and it would have taken longer to search things > out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate quickly to > places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands to > look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as > it may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised > too much that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow > anyone down, sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material. > > Let me know if you have any other questions. > > > Graham Hardy | Lawyer? 604-608-2043?|?ghardy at harrisbrun.com? > > > HARRIS & BRUN LAW CORPORATION?- Barristers & Solicitors > 500 - 555 West Georgia ?Vancouver ?BC ?V6B 1Z6 > Phone: 604-683-2466 ??Fax: 604-683-4541 ??www.harrisbrun.com > > > This transmission is directed in confidence solely to the person named > above, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. The > contents of this transmission may also be subject to solicitor-client > privilege and all rights to that privilege are expressly claimed and > not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please > notify us immediately by telephone (collect if necessary) at (604) > 683-2466, and destroy the original transmission without making a copy. > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Tai Tomasi > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > Message-ID: > > d.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia. > Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in > each of these provinces. > > Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or > convert it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other > blind attorneys who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they > approached this issue? Are you still affiliated with the university > where you attended law school and would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible? > > Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > www.driowa.org > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of > Iowans with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm > of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the > named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than > an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, > you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any > attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If > you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately > and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives > or storage media and destroy any printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ben Fulton > via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:38 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ben Fulton > Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam > > > Hi all, > > I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 > question exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material. > > The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard > time dealing with the index. > > Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they > can use to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large > component of the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, > making this a four day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly. > > For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I > converted it to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So > any index that other people have for this already will not work, > because the page numbers won't line up. > > Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with > embedded links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and > click on links within an index to quickly go to where I need to. > > However, I have no idea how to format that. > > If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > Ben > > > > ________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038% > 40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ghardy%40harrisbrun.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Wed Sep 19 18:37:54 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:37:54 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Message-ID: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Hi Everyone, During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From jtfetter at yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 02:19:20 2018 From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:19:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <7389A412-C770-4718-AE0B-E6F585512140@yahoo.com> Michal, I would have to look into the cases concerning law firms or similar businesses with billable hour requirements. I don’t see why the logic of ADA cases and regs, which do require employers to be open to a certain amount of rearrangement of job functions, would not apply to billable hour requirements. So on paper, there might be a case to be made here. Of course, the firm would argue that meeting the billable hour requirement was an essential job function, and I don’t see too many federal judges, especially those coming out of big law, disagreeing. Regardless, I would be extremely hesitant to try to make that case. Far too many firms are already skittish about hiring us, either because their document management systems are inaccessible or because of ableist assumptions about our productivity. Requesting a reduction in billable hours would raise a huge red flag. The harsh reality is that most of us will simply have to work harder, and potentially put in longer hours, than our sighted peers to get, and keep, good legal jobs. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > Best, > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com From p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au Thu Sep 20 02:22:10 2018 From: p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au (Paul Harpur) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:22:10 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <7389A412-C770-4718-AE0B-E6F585512140@yahoo.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <7389A412-C770-4718-AE0B-E6F585512140@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would ask for more administrative support which can help offset the loss in time. 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Unless explicitly stated the opinions expressed in this email do not necessarily represent the official position of The University of Queensland. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of James Fetter via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2018 12:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: James Fetter Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Michal, I would have to look into the cases concerning law firms or similar businesses with billable hour requirements. I don’t see why the logic of ADA cases and regs, which do require employers to be open to a certain amount of rearrangement of job functions, would not apply to billable hour requirements. So on paper, there might be a case to be made here. Of course, the firm would argue that meeting the billable hour requirement was an essential job function, and I don’t see too many federal judges, especially those coming out of big law, disagreeing. Regardless, I would be extremely hesitant to try to make that case. Far too many firms are already skittish about hiring us, either because their document management systems are inaccessible or because of ableist assumptions about our productivity. Requesting a reduction in billable hours would raise a huge red flag. The harsh reality is that most of us will simply have to work harder, and potentially put in longer hours, than our sighted peers to get, and keep, good legal jobs. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > Best, > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paulharpur%40gmail.com From rodalcidonis at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 02:35:34 2018 From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:35:34 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <7389A412-C770-4718-AE0B-E6F585512140@yahoo.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <7389A412-C770-4718-AE0B-E6F585512140@yahoo.com> Message-ID: That would be extremely misguided in my view. Reduction in essential work responsibilities should never be a basis for a request for reasonable accommodation. I wouldn't do it even if it were legally permissible. If you are asking for a billable hour reduction now, what will you next ask to have reduced? This is unfair to everyone else. These are the things your potential employer will be thinking about. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: James Fetter via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: James Fetter Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Michal, I would have to look into the cases concerning law firms or similar businesses with billable hour requirements. I don’t see why the logic of ADA cases and regs, which do require employers to be open to a certain amount of rearrangement of job functions, would not apply to billable hour requirements. So on paper, there might be a case to be made here. Of course, the firm would argue that meeting the billable hour requirement was an essential job function, and I don’t see too many federal judges, especially those coming out of big law, disagreeing. Regardless, I would be extremely hesitant to try to make that case. Far too many firms are already skittish about hiring us, either because their document management systems are inaccessible or because of ableist assumptions about our productivity. Requesting a reduction in billable hours would raise a huge red flag. The harsh reality is that most of us will simply have to work harder, and potentially put in longer hours, than our sighted peers to get, and keep, good legal jobs. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements > as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given > the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our > sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology > limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this > extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable > hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable > accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is > there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly > appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still > done on a billable hour basis. > > Best, > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com From mmaurer at nfb.org Thu Sep 20 12:29:57 2018 From: mmaurer at nfb.org (Maurer, Marc) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:29:57 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: Colleagues: I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. Marc Maurer Director of Legal Policy 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Hi Everyone, During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 13:15:19 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 18:45:19 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 > 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com From jtfetter at yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 13:19:11 2018 From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:19:11 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <3FFC83CF-782C-4B7B-B1F5-1D272D1D76A6@yahoo.com> Very well-put. There are many, far superior, ways to skin this particular cat. Working harder and delivering the goods in a timely manner without making excuses, blindness-related or otherwise,seems to be the best strategy, at least in my limited experience. And if you are concerned about billable hour requirements, which numerous sighted lawyers are as well, then consider a smaller firm or government agency. You can do excellent work and still have a life. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 > 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com From rodalcidonis at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 13:50:09 2018 From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:50:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> Message-ID: it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology > is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a > sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately > the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, > and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. > Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of > background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no > doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important > than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as > certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much > better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? > Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, > and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging > people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people > get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. > Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling > accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving > advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the > best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the > employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People > hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what > blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 > 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] > [Twitter] > [Youtube] > > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends > who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we > work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki > via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA > accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements > as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given > the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our > sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology > limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this > extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable > hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable > accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is > there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly > appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still > done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others > authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in > relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and > may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been > automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a > Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for > your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and > compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com From aprevost at sidley.com Thu Sep 20 14:16:43 2018 From: aprevost at sidley.com (Prevost, Ann Marie) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:16:43 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Message-ID: Does anyone have any thoughts on this problem. My daughter went to public middle school for 6th grade which she left in June of 2016 to go to a private school for kids with Dyslexia. She was there for 2 years and is back in public high school. They claim that at the end of 6th grade her iPad and CCTV were never returned. Frankly neither my husband nor my daughter remember exactly how they were handed in – whether they were handed off directly or left in the school to be picked up – but we absolutely do not have them. In fact I had to buy her an iPad because EVS does not support kids in private school. EVS has been a train wreck since the head, Dr. Gardner, retired some years ago. I would imagine that at the end of any school year EVS should have some sort of inventory process to confirm what they have and what is missing and contact parents or vision teachers if something is missing. It has been 2 1/2 years and we never heard about this. Why isn’t her vision teacher from 6th grade or the tech person responsible for collecting these devices? Why is Anna at fault? Finally, I looked up the statute of limitations for larceny in NY. For anything under $1,000 it is 2 years. It seems that no matter what, they are too late to make a case out of it at this point and infringe on her ADA rights. Any thoughts? I am thinking of making a police report. Thank you all in advance. Here is the email I got: Regarding Alex's technology for school (CCTV and iPad), I got a response from my supervisor. I'm sorry, but the Technology Solutions Department that handles IEP-driven technology devices confirmed that the equipment initially lent to Alex was not returned. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do as the Vision Teacher at this point. Should you have further questions or concerns, I was asked to direct you to David Cohen from Technology Solutions. 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My daughter went to public middle school for 6th grade which she left in June of 2016 to go to a private school for kids with Dyslexia. She was there for 2 years and is back in public high school. They claim that at the end of 6th grade her iPad and CCTV were never returned. Frankly neither my husband nor my daughter remember exactly how they were handed in – whether they were handed off directly or left in the school to be picked up – but we absolutely do not have them. In fact I had to buy her an iPad because EVS does not support kids in private school. EVS has been a train wreck since the head, Dr. Gardner, retired some years ago. I would imagine that at the end of any school year EVS should have some sort of inventory process to confirm what they have and what is missing and contact parents or vision teachers if something is missing. It has been 2 1/2 years and we never heard about this. Why isn’t her vision teacher from 6th grade or the tech person responsible for collecting these devices? Why is Anna at fault? Finally, I looked up the statute of limitations for larceny in NY. For anything under $1,000 it is 2 years. It seems that no matter what, they are too late to make a case out of it at this point and infringe on her ADA rights. Any thoughts? I am thinking of making a police report. Thank you all in advance. Here is the email I got: Regarding Alex's technology for school (CCTV and iPad), I got a response from my supervisor. I'm sorry, but the Technology Solutions Department that handles IEP-driven technology devices confirmed that the equipment initially lent to Alex was not returned. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do as the Vision Teacher at this point. Should you have further questions or concerns, I was asked to direct you to David Cohen from Technology Solutions. His email is: ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP 787 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10019 +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com www.sidley.com [SIDLEY] **************************************************************************************************** This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately. **************************************************************************************************** From aprevost at sidley.com Thu Sep 20 14:52:11 2018 From: aprevost at sidley.com (Prevost, Ann Marie) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:52:11 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler In-Reply-To: <040a01d450ef$5f29ae80$1d7d0b80$@comcast.net> References: <040a01d450ef$5f29ae80$1d7d0b80$@comcast.net> Message-ID: No they are not coming after us. It was just an argument as to why they can't deprive her of her ADA rights under any senario. My last email from them was that they were picking it up the last day of school at 11:30, and when she came home the last day of school she did not have it with her. If we don't have it - it has to be somewhere.... The fact that they didn't realize that it was "missing" for 2 1/2 years is curious. ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:37 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler What about conversion, larceny might not fly but maybe they can still come at you from a conversion stand point? Stat lim for conversion? Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Prevost, Ann Marie via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:17 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Prevost, Ann Marie Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Does anyone have any thoughts on this problem. My daughter went to public middle school for 6th grade which she left in June of 2016 to go to a private school for kids with Dyslexia. She was there for 2 years and is back in public high school. They claim that at the end of 6th grade her iPad and CCTV were never returned. Frankly neither my husband nor my daughter remember exactly how they were handed in – whether they were handed off directly or left in the school to be picked up – but we absolutely do not have them. In fact I had to buy her an iPad because EVS does not support kids in private school. EVS has been a train wreck since the head, Dr. Gardner, retired some years ago. I would imagine that at the end of any school year EVS should have some sort of inventory process to confirm what they have and what is missing and contact parents or vision teachers if something is missing. It has been 2 1/2 years and we never heard about this. Why isn’t her vision teacher from 6th grade or the tech person responsible for collecting these devices? Why is Anna at fault? Finally, I looked up the statute of limitations for larceny in NY. For anything under $1,000 it is 2 years. It seems that no matter what, they are too late to make a case out of it at this point and infringe on her ADA rights. Any thoughts? I am thinking of making a police report. Thank you all in advance. Here is the email I got: Regarding Alex's technology for school (CCTV and iPad), I got a response from my supervisor. I'm sorry, but the Technology Solutions Department that handles IEP-driven technology devices confirmed that the equipment initially lent to Alex was not returned. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do as the Vision Teacher at this point. Should you have further questions or concerns, I was asked to direct you to David Cohen from Technology Solutions. His email is: ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP 787 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10019 +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com www.sidley.com [SIDLEY] **************************************************************************************************** This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately. **************************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DwIGaQ&c=Od00qP2XTg0tXf_H69-T2w&r=Er0QRNQa_EOBxMrkDnjQzTzqjlr1e0JyxWAl3Ozu2vE&m=5ghzC3GNP-KutFydpm1p46k-BlFYrF-GqnZJVFNqtz8&s=pA9GwB9ZNiZTrfa_jHGEVRCvCXPc9fH04on80jlpvZs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_aprevost-2540sidley.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=Od00qP2XTg0tXf_H69-T2w&r=Er0QRNQa_EOBxMrkDnjQzTzqjlr1e0JyxWAl3Ozu2vE&m=5ghzC3GNP-KutFydpm1p46k-BlFYrF-GqnZJVFNqtz8&s=Xa6ZxVQ8HCRpz_0wIiR2g96cLP9rxtyrU5LXgWPFiYI&e= From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 16:04:07 2018 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:04:07 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler In-Reply-To: References: <040a01d450ef$5f29ae80$1d7d0b80$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001501d450fb$90189310$b049b930$@gmail.com> Good morning: Do you have a signed receipt or other tangible evidence, such as a notation in a calendar or diary, that could help establish that the equipment was returned, when, and to whom? Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Prevost, Ann Marie via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:52 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Prevost, Ann Marie Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler No they are not coming after us. It was just an argument as to why they can't deprive her of her ADA rights under any senario. My last email from them was that they were picking it up the last day of school at 11:30, and when she came home the last day of school she did not have it with her. If we don't have it - it has to be somewhere.... The fact that they didn't realize that it was "missing" for 2 1/2 years is curious. ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:37 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler What about conversion, larceny might not fly but maybe they can still come at you from a conversion stand point? Stat lim for conversion? Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Prevost, Ann Marie via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:17 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Prevost, Ann Marie Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Does anyone have any thoughts on this problem. My daughter went to public middle school for 6th grade which she left in June of 2016 to go to a private school for kids with Dyslexia. She was there for 2 years and is back in public high school. They claim that at the end of 6th grade her iPad and CCTV were never returned. Frankly neither my husband nor my daughter remember exactly how they were handed in – whether they were handed off directly or left in the school to be picked up – but we absolutely do not have them. In fact I had to buy her an iPad because EVS does not support kids in private school. EVS has been a train wreck since the head, Dr. Gardner, retired some years ago. I would imagine that at the end of any school year EVS should have some sort of inventory process to confirm what they have and what is missing and contact parents or vision teachers if something is missing. It has been 2 1/2 years and we never heard about this. Why isn’t her vision teacher from 6th grade or the tech person responsible for collecting these devices? Why is Anna at fault? Finally, I looked up the statute of limitations for larceny in NY. For anything under $1,000 it is 2 years. It seems that no matter what, they are too late to make a case out of it at this point and infringe on her ADA rights. Any thoughts? I am thinking of making a police report. Thank you all in advance. Here is the email I got: Regarding Alex's technology for school (CCTV and iPad), I got a response from my supervisor. I'm sorry, but the Technology Solutions Department that handles IEP-driven technology devices confirmed that the equipment initially lent to Alex was not returned. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do as the Vision Teacher at this point. Should you have further questions or concerns, I was asked to direct you to David Cohen from Technology Solutions. His email is: ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP 787 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10019 +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com www.sidley.com [SIDLEY] **************************************************************************************************** This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately. **************************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DwIGaQ&c=Od00qP2XTg0tXf_H69-T2w&r=Er0QRNQa_EOBxMrkDnjQzTzqjlr1e0JyxWAl3Ozu2vE&m=5ghzC3GNP-KutFydpm1p46k-BlFYrF-GqnZJVFNqtz8&s=pA9GwB9ZNiZTrfa_jHGEVRCvCXPc9fH04on80jlpvZs&e= To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_blindlaw-5Fnfbnet.org_aprevost-2540sidley.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=Od00qP2XTg0tXf_H69-T2w&r=Er0QRNQa_EOBxMrkDnjQzTzqjlr1e0JyxWAl3Ozu2vE&m=5ghzC3GNP-KutFydpm1p46k-BlFYrF-GqnZJVFNqtz8&s=Xa6ZxVQ8HCRpz_0wIiR2g96cLP9rxtyrU5LXgWPFiYI&e= _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 16:19:23 2018 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:19:23 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701d450fd$b1be3e50$153abaf0$@gmail.com> Good morning: If it hasn't been done before, or at least recently, a seminar, or webinar on covering self-marketing might draw a lot of interest and could prove very helpful. Beginning a job search by requesting a reduced workload is likely to convey an unfavorable impression both of the candidate and the capacity of people who are blind in general. As discussed at length during last weeks call, there are a number of approaches and tools that can be employed to assist in competitively performing visual tasks and managing a heavy workload. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: rodalcidonis at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of > technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would > be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and > talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to > that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. > Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of > background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and > no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more > important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as > good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I > am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? > Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my > clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever > in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for > them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. > Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling > accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving > advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had > the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud > why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the > employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to > use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension > 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] > [Twitter] > [Youtube] > > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and > friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. > Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal > Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA > accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour > requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on > that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete > some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, > assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical > to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable > reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to > 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA > and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point > authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as > I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and > others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are > hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking > action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been > automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a > Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place > for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving > and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu Sep 20 16:24:40 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:24:40 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: <001701d450fd$b1be3e50$153abaf0$@gmail.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> <001701d450fd$b1be3e50$153abaf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree with the comments below, as well as those of James and Marc Maurer. Let's schedule a call on self-marketing next quarter. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:19 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Good morning: If it hasn't been done before, or at least recently, a seminar, or webinar on covering self-marketing might draw a lot of interest and could prove very helpful. Beginning a job search by requesting a reduced workload is likely to convey an unfavorable impression both of the candidate and the capacity of people who are blind in general. As discussed at length during last weeks call, there are a number of approaches and tools that can be employed to assist in competitively performing visual tasks and managing a heavy workload. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: rodalcidonis at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of > technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would > be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and > talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to > that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. > Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of > background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and > no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more > important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as > good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I > am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? > Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my > clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever > in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for > them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. > Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling > accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving > advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had > the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud > why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the > employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to > use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension > 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] > [Twitter] > [Youtube] > > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and > friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. > Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal > Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA > accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour > requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on > that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete > some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, > assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical > to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable > reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to > 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA > and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point > authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as > I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and > others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are > hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking > action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been > automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a > Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place > for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving > and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu Sep 20 17:52:36 2018 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:52:36 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADAaccommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> <001701d450fd$b1be3e50$153abaf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0PFD009NX8BO7P10@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Thank you, all, for your input. A conference call on self-marketing would be very helpful. On one hand, it is crucial that we present ourselves to prospective employers as positively as possible to maximize our chances of getting a job offer. On the other hand, though, we also need to find ways to bring our unique challenges to their attention without scaring them to avoid unnecessary friction when an access barrier, such as inaccessible workplace software, arises. Hopefully, we can identify some strategies that can help us strike this delicate balance. I look forward to contributing to this discussion, whenever it takes place. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:26 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADAaccommodation I agree with the comments below, as well as those of James and Marc Maurer. Let's schedule a call on self-marketing next quarter. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:19 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Good morning: If it hasn't been done before, or at least recently, a seminar, or webinar on covering self-marketing might draw a lot of interest and could prove very helpful. Beginning a job search by requesting a reduced workload is likely to convey an unfavorable impression both of the candidate and the capacity of people who are blind in general. As discussed at length during last weeks call, there are a number of approaches and tools that can be employed to assist in competitively performing visual tasks and managing a heavy workload. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: rodalcidonis at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of > technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would > be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and > talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to > that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. > Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of > background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and > no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more > important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as > good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I > am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? > Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my > clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever > in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for > them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. > Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling > accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving > advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had > the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud > why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the > employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to > use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension > 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] > [Twitter] > [Youtube] > > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and > friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. > Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal > Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA > accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour > requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on > that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete > some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, > assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical > to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable > reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to > 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA > and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point > authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as > I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and > others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are > hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking > action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been > automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a > Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place > for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving > and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Sep 20 18:10:26 2018 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:10:26 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADAaccommodation In-Reply-To: <0PFD009NX8BO7P10@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> <001701d450fd$b1be3e50$153abaf0$@gmail.com> <0PFD009NX8BO7P10@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <00c501d4510d$357742a0$a065c7e0$@labarrelaw.com> Hello everyone, we will definitely work to put together a call/seminar about this. Given the right tools, attitude, and, as part of those tools, accessible technology, blindness does not inherently make a blind lawyer unable to produce at expected levels. It's true that some tasks may take longer, but it is also true that we may be able to perform some tasks more quickly. By using JAWS, I can read documents faster than my sighted colleagues, for example. Any way, this will be an interesting discussion. Best to all, Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:53 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADAaccommodation Thank you, all, for your input. A conference call on self-marketing would be very helpful. On one hand, it is crucial that we present ourselves to prospective employers as positively as possible to maximize our chances of getting a job offer. On the other hand, though, we also need to find ways to bring our unique challenges to their attention without scaring them to avoid unnecessary friction when an access barrier, such as inaccessible workplace software, arises. Hopefully, we can identify some strategies that can help us strike this delicate balance. I look forward to contributing to this discussion, whenever it takes place. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:26 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADAaccommodation I agree with the comments below, as well as those of James and Marc Maurer. Let's schedule a call on self-marketing next quarter. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:19 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Luis Mendez Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Good morning: If it hasn't been done before, or at least recently, a seminar, or webinar on covering self-marketing might draw a lot of interest and could prove very helpful. Beginning a job search by requesting a reduced workload is likely to convey an unfavorable impression both of the candidate and the capacity of people who are blind in general. As discussed at length during last weeks call, there are a number of approaches and tools that can be employed to assist in competitively performing visual tasks and managing a heavy workload. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: rodalcidonis at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw > wrote: > > Colleagues: > > > > I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of > technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would > be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and > talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to > that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. > Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of > background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and > no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more > important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as > good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I > am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? > Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my > clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever > in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for > them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. > Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling > accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving > advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had > the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud > why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the > employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to > use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. > > > > > Marc Maurer > Director of Legal Policy > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension > 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] > [Twitter] > [Youtube] > > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and > friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. > Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal > Nowicki via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA > accommodation > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind > attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour > requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on > that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete > some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, > assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical > to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable > reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to > 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA > and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point > authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as > I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. > > > > Best, > > > > Michal > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and > others authorized to receive it. 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You have given me a lot to work with. I'll work away on it, and let you know how it goes. All the best, Ben From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 20 22:53:48 2018 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:53:48 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> Message-ID: <02cf01d45134$cbf77b10$63e67130$@sbcglobal.net> As a blind paralegal I would find insulting that I would have a low4er billable hour requirement than my sighted colleagues. If there are unforeseen issues that arise in completing a task that I am assigned so be it and I might have to be required to work some evenings or week ends to get the job done. It is not a firm or client's responsibility to accommodate me with a lesser requirement that others would not have. Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:30 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Maurer, Marc Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Colleagues: I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. Marc Maurer Director of Legal Policy 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation Hi Everyone, During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 05:39:46 2018 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:09:46 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you for your response, Rod. When I said that it is singularly debilitating, I was adverting to things like: (a) more than 80% of documents that one is asked to work on being image-based PDFs which was the case at my law firm; (b) OCR output being inaccurate, such that you'd require sighted assistance to discern those data points; (c) inability to skim through a hard copy file seamlessly like a sighted lawyer; (d) inaccessibility of legal databases for conducting research; (e) difficulty in navigating overcrowded courthouses for which the firm had to arrange for an office boy to help me. These are significant limitations, when cumulatively viewed, and operate alongside the challenges of getting to grips with a law firm life and other work-related pressures. To your point about intelligence, competence and ethics, I think a good law firm would always hire those who possess a modicum of those qualities, so it is not as though anyone hired by a good law firm would lack these qualities in such a significant measure that they would debilitate them as much as the limitations flowing from blindness. That said, I agree with you that one should not ask that the standards for measuring productivity be lowered. Instead, one should rigorously work on cultivating one's intelligence, competence and ability to act ethically so that one reaches a stage where one is able to offset the limitations flowing from blindness, to the extent possible. Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:20 PM, wrote: > > it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. > > Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. > > I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. > > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rahul Bajaj > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation > > I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. > > That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. > > Best, > Rahul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Colleagues: >> >> >> >> I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. >> >> >> >> >> Marc Maurer >> Director of Legal Policy >> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 >> 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org >> >> >> [National Federation of the Blind] >> >> [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] >> >> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Michal Nowicki >> Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation >> >> >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >> During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Michal >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> BlindLaw mailing list >> >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org >> >> Disclaimer >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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Even if the school still had the equipment at hand, that equipment may well be inappropriate for your daughter's current technology needs. In your posts, you reference her ADA rights. Why is this? If she is currently attending a public school, her IEP (individualized education plan) should be the first document to look to for technology needs. If the IEP does not mention technology, it is almost certainly out of compliance with federal special education law (IDEA) and needs to be amended ASAP. The IEP should detail your daughter's technology NEEDS. Federal law provides that these needs must be met by the school district at no cost to the parent or family. Federal law does not provide school districts an "out" of they claim that equipment is missing--because the law is focused on the student's educational NEEDS, not on school district budgets or inventory. Any concerns about missing equipment must be handled outside the IEP process. If the school refuses to provide needed technology, that is a violation of your daughter's federally-protected rights under the IDEA, and it would be the basis of an appeal by you (either due process or mediation), including a claim for compensatory education based on the lack of technology. So many times, school officials want us to help solve their problems, and they try to make us the "bad guys." We are not the bad guys. Public schools have a duty to provide every student with an IEP a free appropriate public education (FAPE). Schools cannot absolve themselves of these responsibilities by throwing mud at parents. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ttomasi at driowa.org Fri Sep 21 20:19:00 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:19:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Message-ID: Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3845 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From lmendez716 at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 20:36:04 2018 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:36:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010d01d451ea$b7f57160$27e05420$@gmail.com> Thank you for setting the call up. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 4:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 20:44:22 2018 From: jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com (Jeff Jay Johnston) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:44:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005d01d451eb$e13cce50$a3b66af0$@gmail.com> There was a presentation or discussion of AIRA at the recent NABL annual meeting. Does anyone know if it was recorded? As someone who was not present for the discussion, I would enjoy hearing it as a primer for next week's conference call. Best, Jay -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From rthomas48 at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 23:57:39 2018 From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:57:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Using Dragon software Message-ID: Hey guys, I am a blind law school student in Orlando, Florida. I will be graduating in May; however, I am still trying to study smarter and become more productive. I have Windows on my Mac, and I use Jaws. I am looking to purchase the Dragon software to help me write my papers in law school faster. I have tried to use Dragon in the past, but it did not work that well with my PC. However, now that I am using Windows and Jaws on my Mac, I think it might work better. What do you think guys? Can anyone tell me if this is a good idea? Has anyone had any success in using the Dragon software with Jaw? From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sat Sep 22 00:29:38 2018 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:29:38 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation In-Reply-To: References: <0PFB00CFEFR7KR20@st11p00im-asmtp003.me.com> <8585A7AF-C459-4162-8D8F-0E910D0EE237@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry I’m late to the party but I was cranking out billable hours this week. Haha. Anyway, I agree with others points but thoughts I’d raise a few others. First, there’s plenty of times I’m inefficient, blindness not usually being the reason. For example, sometimes I spend too much time researching a dead end or I make a mistake or have a technology failure (again, unrelated to blindness). In those cases, partners will write off time if they think inefficiency has caused my time to be “too much” for a particular project. This happens to all attorneys at my firm so I wouldn’t sweat it when blindness causes you to take longer. It’ll get adjusted down more than likely, or it won’t because you’ve compensated in other ways that made up for that inefficiency and your whole time will be billed. Second, obtaining 2,000 in big law isn’t hard if you’re a good attorney. The hard part is trying to maintain work life balance, meet deadlines, and produce high quality work consistently over long hours. I almost never look at my hours but constantly get praise from partners about how many I’m billing. As long as you are pleasant to work with, bring talent, and are willing to work your but off, 2000 is not the issue. So, bottom line, I wouldn’t broach the subject with potential employers. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Thank you for your response, Rod. When I said that it is singularly debilitating, I was adverting to things like: (a) more than 80% of documents that one is asked to work on being image-based PDFs which was the case at my law firm; (b) OCR output being inaccurate, such that you'd require sighted assistance to discern those data points; (c) inability to skim through a hard copy file seamlessly like a sighted lawyer; (d) inaccessibility of legal databases for conducting research; (e) difficulty in navigating overcrowded courthouses for which the firm had to arrange for an office boy to help me. These are significant limitations, when cumulatively viewed, and operate alongside the challenges of getting to grips with a law firm life and other work-related pressures. > > To your point about intelligence, competence and ethics, I think a good law firm would always hire those who possess a modicum of those qualities, so it is not as though anyone hired by a good law firm would lack these qualities in such a significant measure that they would debilitate them as much as the limitations flowing from blindness. That said, I agree with you that one should not ask that the standards for measuring productivity be lowered. Instead, one should rigorously work on cultivating one's intelligence, competence and ability to act ethically so that one reaches a stage where one is able to offset the limitations flowing from blindness, to the extent possible. > > Best, > Rahul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:20 PM, wrote: >> >> it depends on how you are measuring what is considered debilitating. If a sighted colleague measures extremely low on the intelligence, competence, and ethics scale, which are essential qualities of a good attorney, regardless of your blindness, this attorney will be less of a valued asset to the employer. Blindness is not even part of this equation. This is the reason why I found it misguided to redirect the employer's hiring interest to your blindness, as oppose to your intelligence, competence, and ethics. >> >> Such an approach is counterproductive. This is not reasonable accommodation but more of a self-inflicted degradation of one's professional standing. >> >> I think there need to be a seminar of sort to help blind attorneys understand how to sell oneself effectively as a blind professional. We need that in this competitive environment. Not just at job interviews, but in other professional business interactions with clients and colleagues and partners. >> >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:15 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Rahul Bajaj >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation >> >> I agree with Mark, except insofar as he says that it would be wrong to single out the limitation of blindness as being especially debilitating. I think it is a singularly debilitating limitation, and it and other limitations of mood, temprament and the like are not mutually exclusive. Nothing inoculates a blind lawyer from having these limitations over and above the limitation of blindness. >> >> That caveat notwithstanding, I think that demanding this accommodation of relaxation of the billable hours requirement may not be prudent. Like I said on the call, a blind transactional lawyer has to find ways of being better than their colleagues in other areas, such as learning to read faster. Blindness gives rise to several limitations which cannot be wished away. But if one is able to make a good case for the proposition that one's knowledge of the law, articulation ability and communication and interpersonal skills are superior to those of one's competitors, the impact of the disability can be mitigated. >> >> Best, >> Rahul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Maurer, Marc via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Colleagues: >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't believe in the premise. There are times when a piece of technology is more cumbersome to use as a blind lawyer than it would be to use as a sighted lawyer. However, lawyers get paid for time and talent. Ultimately the talent of blind lawyers must be equivalent to that of sighted lawyers, and my observation is that this is true. All lawyers have limitations. Some of them are limitations of temperament, some of mood, some of background and training, some of interest, some of intelligence, and no doubt many others. To single out one limitation and make it more important than all the others is a mistake in assessment. I am not as good as certain of my colleagues in some areas of the law. However, I am much better than many of my colleagues in other areas. What do I have to sell? Intelligence, aggressiveness, a dogged persistence, a faith in my clients, and a measure of experience. I have no compunction whatever in charging people for these. If you want them, you get to pay for them. Some people get them for free, but they have to convince me that it's worth it to me. Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm good when I work. I am not selling accessibility. I am selling talent and commitment. I remember giving advice to a job applicant who put on a resume that the applicant had the best computer and was therefore worth hiring. I wondered out loud why the employer didn't just buy the computer and skip hiring the employee. People hire me because I have the brains and the talent to use them. This is what blind lawyers should sell. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Marc Maurer >>> Director of Legal Policy >>> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 >>> 410-659-9314, extension 2268 | mmaurer at nfb.org >>> >>> >>> [National Federation of the Blind] >>> >>> [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:38 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Michal Nowicki >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Reduced Billable Hour Requirement as an ADA accommodation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> During last week’s conference call on job interview tips for blind attorneys, I brought up the subject of meeting billable hour requirements as a blind attorney. I now have a follow-up question on that topic. Given the fact that we often need more time to complete some tasks than our sighted colleagues due to access barriers, assistive technology limitations, etc., and that it would be unethical to bill clients for this extra time, does requesting a reasonable reduction in the annual billable hour requirement (e.g., from 2,000 to 1,800 hours) qualify as a reasonable accommodation under the ADA and/or similar disability rights laws? Is there any on-point authority? Any guidance on this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I want to do transactional work, most of which is still done on a billable hour basis. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Michal >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mmaurer at nfb.org >>> >>> Disclaimer >>> >>> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Sat Sep 22 02:00:41 2018 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 02:00:41 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Message-ID: Hello Ann, This may not be legal advice, but I had a similar situation in gr.9 I returned the loaner laptop at the end of the school year, and then the school claimed I hadn't handed it in. In the end they did nothing. If they aren't coming after you, why would you file a police report? My suggestion is to let sleeping dogs lie, and unless they are charging you with something to continue on with life. All the best, Ben Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:52:11 +0000 From: "Prevost, Ann Marie" To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" No they are not coming after us. It was just an argument as to why they can't deprive her of her ADA rights under any senario. My last email from them was that they were picking it up the last day of school at 11:30, and when she came home the last day of school she did not have it with her. If we don't have it - it has to be somewhere.... The fact that they didn't realize that it was "missing" for 2 1/2 years is curious. ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:37 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler What about conversion, larceny might not fly but maybe they can still come at you from a conversion stand point? Stat lim for conversion? Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Prevost, Ann Marie via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:17 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Prevost, Ann Marie Subject: [blindlaw] Denial of technology to a visually impaired high schooler Does anyone have any thoughts on this problem. My daughter went to public middle school for 6th grade which she left in June of 2016 to go to a private school for kids with Dyslexia. She was there for 2 years and is back in public high school. They claim that at the end of 6th grade her iPad and CCTV were never returned. Frankly neither my husband nor my daughter remember exactly how they were handed in ? whether they were handed off directly or left in the school to be picked up ? but we absolutely do not have them. In fact I had to buy her an iPad because EVS does not support kids in private school. EVS has been a train wreck since the head, Dr. Gardner, retired some years ago. I would imagine that at the end of any school year EVS should have some sort of inventory process to confirm what they have and what is missing and contact parents or vision teachers if something is missing. It has been 2 1/2 years and we never heard about this. Why isn?t her vision teacher from 6th grade or the tech person responsible for collecting these devices? Why is Anna at fault? Finally, I looked up the statute of limitations for larceny in NY. For anything under $1,000 it is 2 years. It seems that no matter what, they are too late to make a case out of it at this point and infringe on her ADA rights. Any thoughts? I am thinking of making a police report. Thank you all in advance. Here is the email I got: Regarding Alex's technology for school (CCTV and iPad), I got a response from my supervisor. I'm sorry, but the Technology Solutions Department that handles IEP-driven technology devices confirmed that the equipment initially lent to Alex was not returned. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do as the Vision Teacher at this point. Should you have further questions or concerns, I was asked to direct you to David Cohen from Technology Solutions. His email is: ANN MARIE PREVOST Staff Attorney SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP 787 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10019 +1 212 839 5408 aprevost at sidley.com www.sidley.com [SIDLEY] From agtolentino at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 03:29:05 2018 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:29:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Using Dragon software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want to use Dragon, you may want to check out JDictate or JSAY from Hartgen Consultency. These are scripts that help integrate JAWS and Dragon functionality. JDictate is only for dictation and can use any version of Dragon while JSAY I believe requires a professional version and works with all of Dragon’s functionality including special Dragon commands to perform JAWS-related actions. These products aren’t cheap, but then again, neither are the higher tier versions of Dragon. The open source Dictation Bridge project is also something you might want to look into for basic dictation, but Dragon and the Hartgen products are probably what you’ll want for a professional workflow. Those are just my two cents. Good luck and have a great weekend. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Sep 21, 2018, at 16:57, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hey guys, I am a blind law school student in Orlando, Florida. I will be graduating in May; however, I am still trying to study smarter and become more productive. I have Windows on my Mac, and I use Jaws. I am looking to purchase the Dragon software to help me write my papers in law school faster. I have tried to use Dragon in the past, but it did not work that well with my PC. However, now that I am using Windows and Jaws on my Mac, I think it might work better. What do you think guys? Can anyone tell me if this is a good idea? Has anyone had any success in using the Dragon software with Jaw? > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Sat Sep 22 13:08:54 2018 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:08:54 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Using Dragon software Message-ID: I would say that the Jsay is a must to integrate the two. I did that for a semester, but I did not find that dragon helped me write things any faster. In fact, I found going through and correcting the document was time consuming, and ultimately I can compose things faster with touch typing. I would stick with JAWS. All the best, Ben Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:29:05 -0700 From: Aser Tolentino To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Using Dragon software Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you want to use Dragon, you may want to check out JDictate or JSAY from Hartgen Consultency. These are scripts that help integrate JAWS and Dragon functionality. JDictate is only for dictation and can use any version of Dragon while JSAY I believe requires a professional version and works with all of Dragon?s functionality including special Dragon commands to perform JAWS-related actions. These products aren?t cheap, but then again, neither are the higher tier versions of Dragon. The open source Dictation Bridge project is also something you might want to look into for basic dictation, but Dragon and the Hartgen products are probably what you?ll want for a professional workflow. Those are just my two cents. Good luck and have a great weekend. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On Sep 21, 2018, at 16:57, Roderick Thomas via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hey guys, I am a blind law school student in Orlando, Florida. I will be graduating in May; however, I am still trying to study smarter and become more productive. I have Windows on my Mac, and I use Jaws. I am looking to purchase the Dragon software to help me write my papers in law school faster. I have tried to use Dragon in the past, but it did not work that well with my PC. However, now that I am using Windows and Jaws on my Mac, I think it might work better. What do you think guys? Can anyone tell me if this is a good idea? Has anyone had any success in using the Dragon software with Jaw? > > _______________________________________________ From sbg at sbgaal.com Sun Sep 23 18:21:42 2018 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:21:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002301d4536a$477a4060$d66ec120$@sbgaal.com> I cannot do this time so I am praying for a recording of the call. Thanks! Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 3:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From sbg at sbgaal.com Mon Sep 24 15:40:55 2018 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:40:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201d4541c$fc43b460$f4cb1d20$@sbgaal.com> Hi Tai, I just got out of my hearing and tried to call in. Is the conference over? Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 3:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. From ttomasi at driowa.org Mon Sep 24 15:44:30 2018 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:44:30 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession In-Reply-To: <003201d4541c$fc43b460$f4cb1d20$@sbgaal.com> References: <003201d4541c$fc43b460$f4cb1d20$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: Yes, the conference call just ended a few minutes ago. That conferencing service doesn't allow for recordings. I will post the notes as soon as I receive them from the notetaker. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:41 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hi Tai, I just got out of my hearing and tried to call in. Is the conference over? Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1001 Main St., Suite 803 Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office:  (806) 763-3999 Mobile:  (806) 781-9296 Fax:  (806) 749-3752 E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 3:19 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: [blindlaw] Call to Discuss Use of Aira in the Legal profession Hello, all. I have been waiting to hear back from Aira staff regarding their availability for a call. However, I have not received a response from the company. So as not to delay this meeting any further, I propose a discussion Monday September 24 at 9:00 AM Central time (10:00 AM Eastern, 7:00 AM Pacific). This is the next available time that worked for the most participants in the meeting poll. I apologize for the short notice. Please use the following conference line: Conference Line: 1-218-895-9143 Passcode: 5678# Use of this line has been donated by a list member. If the call can be recorded, I will provide a link to the recording when it is available. Please bring your questions and concerns regarding the Aira visual interpreter service. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. I look forward to speaking with you Monday. Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney [Description: DR%20IA%20LawCenter] 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org www.driowa.org Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV Wed Sep 26 14:46:16 2018 From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 14:46:16 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is excellent news for all of us. Tremendous thanks and hearty congratulations belong to Scott Labarre, our NABL President, and President Riccobono, and the others who worked tirelessly to get us to this point. There are still a couple of hurdles, but this is a momentous and fantastic announcement. We're almost at the finish line. Thank you Scott. /s/ Bennett Prows -----Original Message----- From: NFBNet-Members-List [mailto:nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielsen, Chris via Nfb-announce via NFBNet-Members-List Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:42 PM To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act Treaty Now Awaits Presidential Action Washington, DC (September 25, 2018): The United States House of Representatives has passed the Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act (S. 2559), which makes modest changes to copyright law that will bring the United States into compliance with the terms of the Marrakesh Treaty. The Senate gave its advice and consent to ratification of the treaty and passed the implementing legislation on June 28. "For almost a decade now, the National Federation of the Blind, our partners, and other advocates have worked to bring the Marrakesh Treaty into being and into force," said Mark A. Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind. "Today we applaud the United States House of Representatives for its passage of the Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act. We now urge President Trump to sign this implementing legislation, and to order the State Department to deposit the instrument of ratification with the World Intellectual Property Organization as soon as practicable. We are closer than ever to the day when blind Americans will have greater access to the world's knowledge, in many of its original languages, than we have ever had in human history." ### About the National Federation of the Blind The National Federation of the Blind (NFB), headquartered in Baltimore, is the oldest and largest nationwide organization of blind Americans. Founded in 1940, the NFB consists of affiliates, chapters, and divisions in the fifty states, Washington DC, and Puerto Rico. The NFB defends the rights of blind people of all ages and provides information and support to families with blind children, older Americans who are losing vision, and more. We believe in the hopes and dreams of blind people and work together to transform them into reality. Learn more about our many programs and initiatives at www.nfb.org. nfb.org - National Federation of the Blind www.nfb.org The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. _______________________________________________ NFBNet-Members-List mailing list NFBNet-Members-List at nfbnet.org List archives: To unsubscribe from NFBNet-Members-List: goto http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbnet-members-list_nfbnet.org/bennett.prows%40hhs.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Sep 26 15:39:11 2018 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:39:11 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights Vacancy Announcement - General Attorney, GS-905-12 Career Ladder Washington, D.C. Message-ID: Below is the link to OCR's vacant GS-0905-12 (FPL 14) General Attorney vacancy in the Program Legal Group. The announcement opened on 9/18/2018 and closes on 10/08/2018. ANNOUNCEMENT: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/511179400 From jmccarthy at mdtap.org Wed Sep 26 15:36:33 2018 From: jmccarthy at mdtap.org (Jim McCarthy) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:36:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007b01d455ae$b4b07280$1e115780$@mdtap.org> I agree with Ben. When I was an undergrad, I studied in the former Yugoslavia including the Serbo-Croatian language. The blindness government agency in Zagreb, where I was based, got me a braille copy of the grammar text used in our language studies. Having braille really helped me in the learning of the language and I was not one with a particular facility with languages or experience learning them before that. I might have used that study experience to pursue a different career path but it seemed to me that getting access to the source materials I would need would prove a difficult barrier to overcome. The process has, I think, become a bit easier since that time, but the ability to share documents, create braille or other formats and the like really will help people who pursue language studies and other high-level scholarship along with many more throughout America and the world. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:46 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [Nfbnet-members-list] US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act This is excellent news for all of us. Tremendous thanks and hearty congratulations belong to Scott Labarre, our NABL President, and President Riccobono, and the others who worked tirelessly to get us to this point. There are still a couple of hurdles, but this is a momentous and fantastic announcement. We're almost at the finish line. Thank you Scott. /s/ Bennett Prows -----Original Message----- From: NFBNet-Members-List [mailto:nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielsen, Chris via Nfb-announce via NFBNet-Members-List Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:42 PM To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE US House of Representatives Passes Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act Treaty Now Awaits Presidential Action Washington, DC (September 25, 2018): The United States House of Representatives has passed the Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act (S. 2559), which makes modest changes to copyright law that will bring the United States into compliance with the terms of the Marrakesh Treaty. The Senate gave its advice and consent to ratification of the treaty and passed the implementing legislation on June 28. "For almost a decade now, the National Federation of the Blind, our partners, and other advocates have worked to bring the Marrakesh Treaty into being and into force," said Mark A. Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind. "Today we applaud the United States House of Representatives for its passage of the Marrakesh Treaty Implementation Act. We now urge President Trump to sign this implementing legislation, and to order the State Department to deposit the instrument of ratification with the World Intellectual Property Organization as soon as practicable. We are closer than ever to the day when blind Americans will have greater access to the world's knowledge, in many of its original languages, than we have ever had in human history." ### About the National Federation of the Blind The National Federation of the Blind (NFB), headquartered in Baltimore, is the oldest and largest nationwide organization of blind Americans. Founded in 1940, the NFB consists of affiliates, chapters, and divisions in the fifty states, Washington DC, and Puerto Rico. The NFB defends the rights of blind people of all ages and provides information and support to families with blind children, older Americans who are losing vision, and more. We believe in the hopes and dreams of blind people and work together to transform them into reality. Learn more about our many programs and initiatives at www.nfb.org. nfb.org - National Federation of the Blind www.nfb.org The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. 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