[blindlaw] Writing the bar exam

Wed Sep 19 15:51:51 UTC 2018

I would add another two points to Tai and Rahul.

First, when marking headings with Ctrl+Alt+1, 2, 3, etc, it is not necessary to select the text. This is because the heading styles are paragraph styles and apply to the whole of a Word paragraph as soon as they are applied.

Second, I don't remember if you use JAWS or NVDA or something else, but in the JAWS quick navigation mode or the NVDA browse mode, you can use numbers to move to a level of the corresponding number. For instance, I had my materials for a specific subject area (civil procedure, real estate, professional ethics, etc) in one file, and to jump amongst the chapters I could simply enable JAWS quick navigation with Insert+Z and press the number 1 to move forward or Shift+1 to move backward. To drill down, of course, assuming you had marked the headings out correctly, you could use 2, 3, and so on, to locate other headings.

Third, there is also a tree view in most later Word versions in the navigation pane, navigated to with a few presses of F6, that allows you to move through and collapse levels of headings with the arrow keys. Last time I tried using this feature it was deficient in the sense that JAWS didn't announce the level of heading and it was a bit confusing to use.

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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam

Hi Ben,

I live in India and gave the bar exam here last year. While it is
admittedly a much easier exam than the bar exam in North America,
inasmuch as we're asked fairly basic questions that require us to find
section numbers and case names relating to a given rule in
contradistinction to fact patterns in which you'd have to apply the
law, here are a few things I found helpful, for what they are worth:

First, I think dividing the material into different word files based
on the concerned subject area is absolutely critical which is
something that you're already doing, as opposed to having a lot of
content in one place.

Second, the find command is fairly straightforward to use and
acquiring mastery over the command is vital. One useful pointer might
be to use control+ page down to the next search result and
control+page up to go to the previous one, as opposed to having to go
back to the find box and press enter each time. You can also use the
find command that is specifically for JAWS users, control+insert=f,
but I don't think that is necessary in word documents.

Third, as Graham says, you can use the quick navigation keys, insert+z
and then use h to jump from one heading to another.

Fourth, you might want to put a lot of bookmarks/ place markers in the
word documents that you're working with, to make it easier to access
relevant pieces of information. Kindly see Michael Nowiki's mail on
this list to find out how to do this, even though his advice was qua
PDFs.

Fifth, again, as Graham says, trying to minimize one's dependence on
the open book material is always a good idea, doubly so for someone
who is blind and dependent on technology which is not always reliable.

Best,
Rahul
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On 19/09/2018, Ben Fulton via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Tai and Graham,
>
> Those are good suggestions. I have already converted it to word, and am
> cleaning up the formatting as I go, so I'm not sure if asking for another
> word document at this time would help.
>
> As I read each chapter I cut it into a separate file. This way I have a file
> for each chapter, instead of one gigantic 1,000 page file.
>
> Someone I know does computer programming and I have approached him about
> designing html links.
>
> I can try to approach the Law School, but I have found a lot of their help
> to be lacking, especially in matters outside the actual school itself. I
> could go on about the improperly formatted resumes they gave me to apply to
> jobs with, and how it took a friend of mine pointing out how bad they looked
> visually before I realized there was a problem, and this was after I made it
> explicit that I needed their help making the information visually
> presentable.
>
> I reached out to a couple of blind lawyers in Ontario. The two I was able to
> talk with wrote the bar 30+ years ago, before computers. It would be great
> talking with someone who wrote the bar in the last 10 years.
>
> I don't know how to add heading styles in a word document or navigate using
> that. If I could learn a little more about that, it would probably help.
>
> I also don't have a lot of experience using the word find function in a
> document. I know how to hit control F to search for a specific word, but are
> there other functions that could help?
>
> Graham, I'll message you off list. Any help you could provide would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben Fulton
>
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> Hi Ben,
>
> I wrote the bar in British Columbia and had a similar experience (though a
> much smaller number of questions). Two things were helpful. First, when I
> approached the Law Society, they gladly provided me their source files in
> Microsoft Word format. These were, of course, formatted for printing and I
> had to clean up their formatting quite a bit. I also applied heading styles
> so that I could jump around using JAWS quick navigation commands. I knew
> that many students used indices but I didn't bother trying to rely on those,
> as I knew that having a page number would only point to a rather large
> section of a document, given the small font, and it would have taken longer
> to search things out. In addition to headings, which helped me navigate
> quickly to places I was very familiar with, I used the text search commands
> to look for words in areas which I hadn't indexed. Above all, tempting as it
> may be to use the open book as a crutch, it cannot be emphasised too much
> that having an open book should be a memory aid and can slow anyone down,
> sighted or blind, who has to look things up for every question. You should
> try as much as humanly possible to be familiar with the material.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
>
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> Graham Hardy is a member of this list and took the bar in British Columbia.
> Hopefully, he will chime in. I'm not sure if the exams are similar in each
> of these provinces.
>
> Ben, could you pay someone to put headings into the word document or convert
> it into an HTML document with links? Can you contact other blind attorneys
> who have taken the bar in Ontario to see how they approached this issue? Are
> you still affiliated with the university where you attended law school and
> would they be willing to assist in making the document accessible?
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Writing the bar exam
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>
> Hi all,
>
> I am currently studying for the Ontario bar. It is a two day 480 question
> exam that covers about 2,000 pages of material.
>
> The exam is open book, and the scores are curved. I'm having a hard time
> dealing with the index.
>
> Sighted students talk a lot about having tabs, and indexes that they can use
> to quickly look up the information they need. Time is a large component of
> the exam, and even though I will have twice as much time, making this a four
> day exam, I am still concerned about the time to look things up quickly.
>
> For starters, the pdf file they sent was difficult to use, so I converted it
> to a word file, but this expanded the number of pages. So any index that
> other people have for this already will not work, because the page numbers
> won't line up.
>
> Ideally, I would most likely want an html type of document with embedded
> links, then I could use the jaws find for specific words, and click on links
> within an index to quickly go to where I need to.
>
> However, I have no idea how to format that.
>
> If anyone has anysuggestions for writing the bar I would appreciate it.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
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