[blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and Track Changes
Laura Wolk
laura.wolk at gmail.com
Sat Apr 13 00:51:54 UTC 2019
That's so strange, Shannon. Mine still does it sporadically, but it's
eons better than it was before this last patch.
On 4/12/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I am running the second most recent version and plan to upgrade in a few
> weeks when I receive a new laptop from IT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 6:55 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Shannon Dillon
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and Track
> Changes
>
> I am definitely running the most recent version of jaws. Since it’s the
> first thing freedom scientific asks whenever you call Technical Support, I
> make sure to keep mine updated.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are people who are still having this problem running the latest version of
>> Jaws? The last update largely fixed this for me. By problem I mean Jaws
>> reading both old and revised text.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that is one of the fundamental issues. It is intensely difficult
>>> to differentiate between old and new text, not to mention when there is
>>> an entire rainbow of revisions from multiple editors and co-counsel.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon
>>> Dillon via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:01 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Cc: Shannon Dillon
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and Track
>>> Changes
>>>
>>> When I am trying to read revisions in track changes, I also have
>>> difficulty distinguishing which text has been deleted and which has been
>>> added. It jumbles all the words together and I can’t tell what was
>>> deleted or added. Or does someone have a workaround for that?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Angela Matney via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Laura, my apologies. I was reading too fast. The issue I have with long
>>>> comments and revisions is not the one described in #8. In the virtual
>>>> viewer, JAWS will stop reading after a while. For comments, I have
>>>> started creating plain-text versions of documents. The comments show up
>>>> at the end, and I can read them that way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Angela Matney
>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 11:03 AM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and Track
>>>> Changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laura,
>>>>
>>>> I have the problem described in #8 with comments and revisions in the
>>>> virtual viewer as well.
>>>>
>>>> Angie
>>>>
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>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via
>>>> BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:24 AM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and Track
>>>> Changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are the issues about which VFO and Microsoft are aware and
>>>> actively working on:
>>>>
>>>> 1. virtual viewer does not show more than approximately 150 revisions.
>>>> Also impacts the list tracked change feature.
>>>> 2. Jaws occasionally reading both the old and the revised text.
>>>> 3. Revisions of footnotes don’t show up in virtual viewer at all.
>>>> 4. Jaws becomes sluggish when editing footnotes, headers and footers,
>>>> comments.
>>>> 5. Inability to select text in footnotes, headers and footers, comment
>>>> bubbles.
>>>> 6. Always showing dots 7-8 in footnotes on a Braille display.
>>>> 7. Braille cursor routing keys do not work correctly when editing
>>>> footnotes.
>>>> 8. If footnotes are long, Braille display will stop reading after a
>>>> certain point.
>>>> 9. Jaws will report a revision at the beginning of the line, rather
>>>> than announcing the revision exactly where the revised text occurs.
>>>> 10. Call numbers of footnotes not being read in the footnote pane.
>>>> 11. When switching from show all mark-up to no-markup, hidden
>>>> properties are still read, requiring a manual refresh.
>>>>
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/12/19, Laura Wolk
>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I've said, the folks from VFO and Microsoft are now aware of the
>>>>> editing
>>>>> and sluggishness problems and have reproduced them. I am going to work
>>>>> with
>>>>> them on the beta test to make sure as many of these issues as possible
>>>>> get
>>>>> addressed in the next release. If you have the latest build of Jaws and
>>>>> are
>>>>> encountering problems that we have not discussed in this thread
>>>>> already,
>>>>> please let me know as soon as possible. Angie, I'll try to re-create
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem you just described when I get to work.
>>>>> One thing I'll say is that, unsurprisingly, Microsoft is interested in
>>>>> making their fixes beginning with the latest build. I think we will
>>>>> probably need to be prepared to advocate for upgrades at our jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Angie Matney via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the same issues (or at least, most of them) with comments and
>>>>>> footnotes. I have taken to composing comments in Notepad and then
>>>>>> pasting
>>>>>> them in. For some reason, if I have the document set to "print" view,
>>>>>> pasting doesn't seem to work. This hasn't always been an issue, but
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least with the last update of JAWS, if I try to add a comment while
>>>>>> I'm in
>>>>>> print view, the title bar will say "Revisions pane," the paste
>>>>>> command
>>>>>> will not work, and I end up with an empty comment in my document.
>>>>>> Sometimes, I can edit and delete comments; sometimes, these menu
>>>>>> options
>>>>>> aren't available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not experienced this. I can enter, edit, and remove comments
>>>>>>> written by myself and by colleagues. I rely on the next and previous
>>>>>>> buttons on the menu to navigate among comments. Once in the comment
>>>>>>> pane,
>>>>>>> I do notice that JAWS' performance seems inexplicably to slow down,
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> can edit as I would usually do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>> Dillon via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>> Cc: Shannon Dillon
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [blindlaw editing comments with Jaws and
>>>>>>> Track
>>>>>>> Changes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed the other day when I was trying to edit text in a comment,
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it hi had The same problem as I do in footnotes. I can’t select
>>>>>>> words. As
>>>>>>> I press control shift right arrow, or shift right arrow, the word or
>>>>>>> character is selected and then and selected. So I can never select a
>>>>>>> block of text been deleted. I have to use the delete key by itself
>>>>>>> and go
>>>>>>> through to delete the whole comment. I was wondering if anyone else
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> has a problem getting into an already written comment to edit it. And
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you have problems deleting comments? I have problems with both of
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> things. I can create a new comment. But I am an able to get into a
>>>>>>> comment I have written to edit it.
>>>>>>> And I can’t always delete comments. When I do I’m not exactly sure
>>>>>>> how I
>>>>>>> was able to make it happen. It’s a total fluke.
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I experience this issue with PDFs as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>> Bajaj
>>>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:58 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>>>>>>> <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com<mailto:rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>>;
>>>>>>>> tim at timeldermusic.com<mailto:tim at timeldermusic.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. First of all, let me say how glad I am that this issue is
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> much-needed attention that it deserves. Until a few months ago,
>>>>>>>> Freedom
>>>>>>>> Scientific simply refused to acknowledge that the sporadic
>>>>>>>> functioning
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the virtual viewer for accessing a list of revisions was an issue
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> could address. It was only after some of us reached out to them that
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> able to move past the point where JAWS would simply say that there
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> revisions in a document when the number of revisions exceeded 100.
>>>>>>>> So I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> confident that we will be able to get all outstanding issues
>>>>>>>> resolved if
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> are able to make good the claim that the inaccessibility of track
>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>> impacts a critical mass of blind people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. I echo the challenges that Laura voiced in using footnotes - the
>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>> sluggishness of JAWS, coupled with the fact that it is very
>>>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> edit them or to ascertain their number.
>>>>>>>> 3. One significant issue which I have been grappling with for the
>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>> 3-4 months is the inaccessibility of PDF documents with JAWS - when
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> with Adobe Reader, JAWS throws you back by many pages if you try
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>> line and doesn't enable you to read a document in a para-wise
>>>>>>>> fashion.
>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>> that you can realistically do, except for using the OCR feature or
>>>>>>>> converting the document into Word, is to use the say-all command or
>>>>>>>> navigate
>>>>>>>> the document line-by-line, both of which are highly inefficient ways
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> a document. I reached out to Vispero about this, and they
>>>>>>>> attributed
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> problem to Adobe. I have been communicating with Adobe
>>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>> for the last month, but they haven't really taken this issue
>>>>>>>> seriously,
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> it appears that not many people have reported the issue. So I
>>>>>>>> wholeheartedly
>>>>>>>> agree with Laura when she says that we need to act collectively on
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> issues, if we want to be taken seriously.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy to help in whatever way I can, including by way of
>>>>>>>> supplying
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> sample document with many revisions in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> On 19/12/2018, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I appreciate this so much. Please let me know if you'd like any
>>>>>>>>> assistance. Regarding what to put in the letter, do other people
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have the experience, as I do, that Jaws will read both the
>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>> and edited text when you're reading through a document? This
>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>> used to happen to me, but now it does. I'm using Office 2016,
>>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10, and hte latest version of Jaws. Additionally, I find that Jaws
>>>>>>>>> doesn't always announce "revision" when it detects track changes.
>>>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> others confirm? This has the end result that relying on the file's
>>>>>>>>> contents rather than the generated list also does not give the
>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>> accurate information unless he engages in rather cumbersome
>>>>>>>>> character-by-character analysis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the record, I did a bit more poking around on my file. I tried
>>>>>>>>> hitting ctrl+end as Rahul suggested, and that actually turned out
>>>>>>>>> fewer revisions. The list also only went to page 9 of a 25-page
>>>>>>>>> document. It gave me 154 revisions, when there were probably
>>>>>>>>> closer
>>>>>>>>> to 400, and of course, as always, absolutely no info from
>>>>>>>>> footnotes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If no one else is able to assist, I will attempt to generate a
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> with a few hundred track changes for FS to work with. Perhaps this
>>>>>>>>> could accompany the NABL letter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/18, Scott C. LaBarre
>>>>>>>>>> <slabarre at labarrelaw.com<mailto:slabarre at labarrelaw.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I've been following this thread with great
>>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>> and I am going to work on a letter from the National Association
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> Blind Lawyers to VFO about this issue and will likely also write
>>>>>>>>>> MicroSoft. Let me also take this moment to wish all of you the
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> best of this holiday season.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Elder
>>>>>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Laura Wolk'
>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com<mailto:tim at timeldermusic.com>; 'Blind
>>>>>>>>>> Law Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Understood. I forwarded this to a contact at Microsoft to see if
>>>>>>>>>> they could do anything while we wait on whatever the developer of
>>>>>>>>>> JAWS is calling itself these days. I've also been slowly learning
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA to diversify my technology tools.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: tim at timeldermusic.com<mailto:tim at timeldermusic.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope. Not an option. And though 2010 didn't crash nearly as much
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> the newer versions, it still couldn't handle documents with more
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a hundred or so revisions. Which, you know, is basically every
>>>>>>>>>> round
>>>>>>>>>> of editing a brief or large filing of any kind. Using 2010 was my
>>>>>>>>>> work-around for 6 years. But I'm really getting fed up. It'd be
>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if we all colectively could put pressure on Jaws to actually give
>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> the tools we need to succeed and be on equal footing with our
>>>>>>>>>> peers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:05 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>> <tim at timeldermusic.com<mailto:tim at timeldermusic.com>>
>>>>>>>>>> <tim at timeldermusic.com<mailto:tim at timeldermusic.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Track changes in newly created Word documents still work reliably
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Office 2010 if using an older machine for this kind of task is an
>>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 11:22 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm providing an update to this topic, as it generated a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>>>>>> and I'd love to spare another lawyer the risk of relying on this
>>>>>>>>>> $1,000 disappointment to his professional detriment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaws still does not announce the correct number of revisions.
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead, after taking up to 30 or 45 seconds sometimes, it will
>>>>>>>>>>> announce a
>>>>>>>>>> much larger number that still isn't always accurate. This is
>>>>>>>>>> actually worse than when it simply said there were no revisions
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> display, since we all knew that was incorrect. now it gives the
>>>>>>>>>> false sense of security that you have, in fact, looked at every
>>>>>>>>>> revision when there could be a hundred more that are not
>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>> that you haven't reviewed. note that though this isn't a terrible
>>>>>>>>>> inconvenience when you are integrating all changes into one draft
>>>>>>>>>> from only one document, it is a huge problem if you are receiving
>>>>>>>>>> multiple streams of edits from multiple sources that you are
>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>> to accept/reject and then compile into one final draft. So be
>>>>>>>>>> forewarned, Jaws is sstill failing abysmally at providing us with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> elementary tools needed in 2018 to maintain "Job access."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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