[blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

Laura Wolk laura.wolk at gmail.com
Tue Apr 23 13:32:23 UTC 2019


Thanks so much!  I'll definitely keep you posted!

On 4/23/19, Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com> wrote:
> Appreciate the concern and agree with your approach to it. Feel free to let
> me know if I can be of any help other than private beta testing as Rosemarry
> will not give me another enrolment as I could not test earlier due to
> professional commitments :)
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 23-Apr-2019, at 5:22 PM, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, I'm aware of this also.  I will let them know, but this also may
>> need to wait for a future update.  I am trying to balance getting as
>> many things addressed as possible with not overwhelming the
>> developers.  They are currently developing a beta test to address the
>> issues raised in January.  The last I heard was that a beta was
>> released last week that still does not adequately address the issues
>> brought to their attention, so they are trying additional fixes.  I'll
>> let you know once I've tested it.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>> On 4/23/19, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I somehow missed this threat.
>>>
>>> Excellent work, Laura. Just an addition, Jaws does not announce
>>> formatting
>>> related changes in track, it just announces ‘revised property’. Request
>>> if
>>> we can get this addressed as well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 23-Apr-2019, at 3:15 PM, Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Laura
>>>>
>>>> Just a note to thank you and all those who have worked on this very
>>>> much indeed. The tip you have shared for quick access keys seems
>>>> useful, I will try it.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Ger for all your work on this
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/12/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry for the cross-post, but in case some folks are following one
>>>>> thread and not another:
>>>>>
>>>>> VFO is planning on issuing a new release some time in the next month
>>>>> to address as many of these concerns as possible.  I will be working
>>>>> with them on their Beta test to make sure they are actually addressed.
>>>>> Microsoft will also be working on things from their end, but they will
>>>>> primarily be implementing them in the latest build, so I anticipate
>>>>> that we will need to advocate for upgrades to the latest version of
>>>>> office as accommodations in our job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the list of issues about which Vfo and Microsoft are aware.
>>>>> Please let me know if anything that you are encountering is not on
>>>>> this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. virtual viewer does not show more than approximately 150 revisions.
>>>>> Also impacts the list tracked change feature.
>>>>> 2. Jaws occasionally reads both the old and the revised text.
>>>>> 3. Revisions of footnotes don’t show up in virtual viewer at all.
>>>>> 4. Jaws becomes sluggish when editing footnotes, headers and footers,
>>>>> comments.
>>>>> 5. Reliably being able to select text in footnotes, headers and
>>>>> footers, comment bubbles.
>>>>> 6. Always showing dots 7-8 on the display in footnotes.
>>>>> 7. Braille cursor routing keys do not work correctly when editing
>>>>> footnotes.
>>>>> 8. If footnotes are long, Braille display will stop advancing after a
>>>>> certain point.
>>>>> 9. Jaws will report a revision at the beginning of the line, rather
>>>>> than announcing the revision exactly where the revised text occurs.
>>>>> 10. call numbers of footnotes not being read in the footnote pane.
>>>>> 11. When switching from show all mark-up to no-markup, hidden
>>>>> properties are still read, requiring a manual refresh.
>>>>> 12. General sluggishness/lagginess when navigating the ribbon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/11/19, Steve Jacobson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you have already heard this elsewhere, but on a recent
>>>>>> Podcast,
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> Damery made reference to some major changes to the process JAWS uses
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> track Word changes and revisions were being made, and I believe he
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they would likely be in the May release.  Perhaps this will also
>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Quick Access Toolbar is very handy for tasks, I am glad it is
>>>>>> helping
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> this situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:26 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hit alt+f, then t to get to options.  Arrow down until you hear
>>>>>> "quick
>>>>>> access tool bar."  Then tab over until you hear "customize quick
>>>>>> access tool bar list box, save as one of nine."  If you arrow down
>>>>>> through that list box, you will hear what the defaults are.  I hope
>>>>>> that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/11/19, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the update Laura!
>>>>>>> I have been looking for the default quick access commands, do you
>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>> to know where I can find them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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