[blindLaw] ABYY FineReader Stability with Jaws?

Kelby Carlson kelbycarlson at gmail.com
Mon Aug 5 18:29:31 UTC 2019


Laura,

Okay, here goes. i use NVDA, so some of the accessibility features
might be slightly different. So, for example, I do not read PDFs in
FineReader itself, but use Adobe after I have converted them. There
are pretty easy ways to bulk convert within FineReader; from the main
screen, just click on "convert to [whatever file format desired]" and
then add files as necessary.

You will want to go into FineReader's settings and make sure that
tagging'bookmarking PDF files is checked, and that the OCR is set to
"text and pictures only"--that way you will not have the original
image embedded in the file, which will make it much larger.

There is one important thing to be aware of, however. With some files,
I have found that because of the tagging that FineReader does, when
you open the converted file in Adobe, it will start you off on the
last page instead of the first. There are two ways around this: either
open the PDF file with FineReader's OCR editor, and when the OCR
process has finished, save the file as a text-based PDF;
alternatively, use "infer reading order from document" in Adobe's
settings rather than tagged reading order. This does make converting
PDFs in bulk trickier, unfortunately. I am trying to work with Abbyy
on a fix, but so far they have not been helpful.

Let me know if there are other questions.



On 8/5/19, Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> I tend to use Nuance Omnipage to convert PDFS to text files and then
> to read those files. This fast, reliable and effective.
>
> The one draw back is that sometimes the page numbers can be lost, so
> that one is not always sure what page of a document one is reading.
> Any solution for that would be welcome. However, I am not sure that
> when say Fine Reader converts a pdf to word the word document has
> precisely the same page numbers as the pdf?
>
> Comments on this welcome. I am following this discussion with interest
> and would be really grateful if people would post solutions to the
> list.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Ger
>
> On 8/4/19, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> RB-just when I read your observation, I was reminded of a feature which
>> even
>> allowed reading within Fine Reader itself. It was an important observation
>> from your end which lead to me remembering a good old missed feature.
>>
>> Let me try that out and let the group know tomorrow. Just ping me once
>> please around noon time just so that it doesn’t slip from my mind.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> AJ
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 04-Aug-2019, at 7:29 PM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Laura,
>>>
>>> I use ABBYY as an instrument to convert PDFS into  word documents all the
>>> time. however, I suspect that you are envisaging its use to read PDF
>>> documents as such, as a substitute for adobe reader.  I have never done
>>> this yet. best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I do it on day to day basis. It is the best solution. You can call me on
>>>> +91-9892622230 or email me (there may be little delay in responses). Or
>>>> Whats App is also fine.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Amar Jain
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 03-Aug-2019, at 4:49 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone regularly uses ABYY FineReader instead of Adobe for handling
>>>>> PDFs, I would really appreciate being contacted offline.  Here's the
>>>>> skinny.
>>>>>
>>>>> My job is extremely PDF heavy,often with horribly tagged and un-ocr'd
>>>>> documents, which we have no way of controlling.  For years, I rely
>>>>> typically on K1000 as a work-around Adobe's finickiness with Jaws.
>>>>> Except that, for reasons we can't understand, K1000 will not launch on
>>>>> my system.  We've been working diligently on this for three weeks with
>>>>> no success.  In the meantime, I've had to rely on Adobe pro, which for
>>>>> reasons well rehashed, we all know is not a sustainable option. (Note,
>>>>> in my copious free time, ha! I have been trying to negotiate with
>>>>> Vispero and Adobe on this).
>>>>>
>>>>> The potentially good news is that I do also have access to ABBYY
>>>>> FineReader.  I've heard people mention this in the past as a
>>>>> substitute for K1000 or OpenBook, but not as a PDF reader.  Yesterday,
>>>>> I tried loading a PDF in it, got some notice like "loading scans,"
>>>>> nothing happened after about a minute, and I panicked, basically
>>>>> thinking "I don't have time to figure this out now, I need to get this
>>>>> done," and resorted back to Adobe.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone has success with this program and can charitably donate
>>>>> their time to me to give me a crash course instead of having me
>>>>> self-teach and figure out if there's some settings I need to tweak or
>>>>> whatever, I would be ever so grateful.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks much,
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
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