[blindLaw] QRead or other options As a Substitute for Adobe Reader
Rahul Bajaj
rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 8 05:17:24 UTC 2019
Brian, does Foxit enable you to navigate all searchable pdfs in para-wise form?
Rahul
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 8, 2019, at 3:03 AM, Brian Unitt via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I have been having the same issues with JFW losing its place in Acrobat Reader, and installing the August update did not help. FineReader is a no-go for reading PDFs. I tried the demo of QRead but couldn't get the install to complete.
>
> I am now running the demo of Foxit Phantom PDF, and it shows some promise. I have tried several PDFs of various sizes, and so far don't have any problem with JFW losing its place in the document. A 300 page document opened almost instantly, compared to the minutes Acrobat takes.
>
> There are still issues with stripping line numbers off pleadings, and not always showing page numbers. It is going to be a pretty steep learning curve as the program has a robust feature set, and a ribbon menu that is not all that friendly to JAWS (or maybe just to me) it's too soon to tell how useful it will be yet.
>
> I will mention another alternative if you have an iPad is using VoiceDream Reader. I use it a lot because It allows for highlighting of text in PDFs and you can export the highlighted material to a text editor for quick reference or for pasting into briefs etc.
>
> Brian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 7:57 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader
>
> JAWS recently added support for Foxit Reader. I think QRead is great for reviewing larger PDFs, but its text extraction can be rather eccentric, and can really mangle things like tables.
>
> Respectfully,
> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 06:17, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have used the demo version of QRead and may get the full version at
>> some point. I have been reasonably impressed with its performance; it
>> definitely opens documents faster than Adobe.
>>
>>> On 8/7/19, Robert Munro via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I use PDF Pen on my Mac; unfortunately, they don’t make a windows version.
>>> Here are some suggestions they have for Windows users. The first one
>>> is free, so it’s worth seeing how it works with JAWS.
>>> https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows
>>> <https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows>
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Onward!
>>> Robert Munro
>>> r.g.munro at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6 Aug, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use QRead and it is a good app but not a replacement for a more
>>>> rebuts PDF application such as ABBYY. I process all of my OCR in
>>>> ABBYY and convert the material into a Word doc for consumption.
>>>>
>>>> QRead will not convert image-scanned PDF documents, but it is good
>>>> with accessible PDf-formatted manuals and alike.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 10:01 AM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> So it turns out that ABBYY Fine Reader does not work as a viable
>>>> substitute for Adobe Reader to read PDF documents as such. JAWS
>>>> simply refuses to interact with the document if you open it in ABBYY
>>>> - Amar has confirmed this finding as well.
>>>>
>>>> When I had posted a question about the problems attending the
>>>> navigation of PDF documents with JAWS last year, Derek, in the email
>>>> below, alluded to an app called QRead which costs around $30. I am
>>>> wondering if others here have used this application and have found
>>>> it to be a viable substitute for Adobe Reader. Specifically, I am
>>>> wondering if it enables you to smoothly read PDFs in para-wise form
>>>> and if JAWS does not lose focus while reading the document. If it is
>>>> a viable substitute, I will purchase it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Derek Dittmar <derekjdittmar at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:58:05 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reading PDFs with JAWS has become infeasible
>>>> To: Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Rahul,
>>>> I hope this e-mail finds you well. As a third year law student, I
>>>> primarily use a small application from an indi blind developer
>>>> called QRead.
>>>> https://q-continuum.net/qread/
>>>> Most of my use of PDFs involves working through assigned readings in
>>>> electronic textbooks. I know that QRead does not allow for editing
>>>> within pdfs. However, if all you need is a relatively inexpensive (I
>>>> think it was $30) pdf reader with good JAWs accessibility, then I
>>>> think it might work.
>>>> As a note, I am still using JAWS 16 (ugh). Also, I learned about
>>>> QRead from a personal friend who was (and maybe is) working with the
>>>> developer for marketing. However, I haven't consulted with her in
>>>> sending you this e-mail, and by no means do I get any sort of
>>>> benefit from recommending the application. I will tell you that I'm
>>>> working on an LL.M. right now, and have about twelve PDFs open in
>>>> the application
>>>> -- several law review articles and a few multi-hundred page
>>>> textbooks
>>>> -- and it is working just fine.
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/18, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have JAWSb 2018 and acrobat dc. Jaws keeps automatically jumping
>>>>> up and down in PDFs when you select 'read entire document'.
>>>>> Control+up and down arrows also doesn't work for para-wise navigation; jaws says blank.
>>>>> Finally,
>>>>> even ctrl+shift+n works sporadically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have spoken with VFO. They say that the first 2 problems, at
>>>>> least, have been widely reported in recent weeks. I am using OCR
>>>>> and word versions as ad hoc measures. Do others have any ideas, or
>>>>> can they report this to FS or Adobe if they are facing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> --
>>>> Rahul Bajaj
>>>> Candidate for the BCL
>>>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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