[blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader

Fri Aug 9 15:36:16 UTC 2019

Preview has gotten a lot better for small documents. After the revamp a couple years ago, however, Preview cannot handle large documents. 

> On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use a combination of QRead, Adobe, Kurzweil 1000 and occasionally try out Microsoft Edge of all things. I also turn to VoiceDream Reader on iOS to skim large PDFs. On the Mac side, Preview has proven remarkably robust as of late.
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I typically utilize OpenBook to OCR and read PDF’s. Does anyone have any thoughts on OpenBook compared to ABBYY, QRead, or other software? I’m just wondering if I could be using something better. 
>> 
>> Cody
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still use QRead daily. I'll second that it has issues with pulling
>>> out text from graphs and charts. Also, I have a hard time using
>>> control+down arrow to go by paragraph. However, the page navigation,
>>> robust bookmarking, speed, and ability to have multiple pdfs open at
>>> the same time (with a quick ability to navigate between) has
>>> definitely helped me out.
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/19, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> JAWS recently added support for Foxit Reader. I think QRead is great for
>>>> reviewing larger PDFs, but its text extraction can be rather eccentric, and
>>>> can really mangle things like tables.
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 06:17, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used the demo version of QRead and may get the full version at
>>>>> some point. I have been reasonably impressed with its performance; it
>>>>> definitely opens documents faster than Adobe.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/7/19, Robert Munro via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I use PDF Pen on my Mac; unfortunately, they don’t make a windows
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>> Here are some suggestions they have for Windows users. The first one is
>>>>>> free, so it’s worth seeing how it works with JAWS.
>>>>>> https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows
>>>>>> <https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Onward!
>>>>>> Robert Munro
>>>>>> r.g.munro at gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Aug, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use QRead and it is a good app but not a replacement for a more rebuts
>>>>>>> PDF application such as ABBYY. I process all of my OCR in ABBYY and
>>>>>>> convert the material into a Word doc for consumption.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> QRead will not convert image-scanned PDF documents, but it is good with
>>>>>>> accessible PDf-formatted  manuals and alike.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 10:01 AM
>>>>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So it turns out that ABBYY Fine Reader does not work as a viable
>>>>>>> substitute for Adobe Reader to read PDF documents as such. JAWS simply
>>>>>>> refuses to interact with the document if you open it in ABBYY - Amar
>>>>>>> has confirmed this finding as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I had posted a question about the problems attending the
>>>>>>> navigation of PDF documents with JAWS last year, Derek, in the email
>>>>>>> below, alluded to an app called QRead which costs around $30. I am
>>>>>>> wondering if others here have used this application and have found it
>>>>>>> to be a viable substitute for Adobe Reader. Specifically, I am
>>>>>>> wondering if it enables you to smoothly read PDFs in para-wise form
>>>>>>> and if JAWS does not lose focus while reading the document. If it is a
>>>>>>> viable substitute, I will purchase it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Derek Dittmar <derekjdittmar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:58:05 -0500
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reading PDFs with JAWS has become infeasible
>>>>>>> To: Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rahul,
>>>>>>> I hope this e-mail finds you well. As a third year law student, I
>>>>>>> primarily use a small application from an indi blind developer called
>>>>>>> QRead.
>>>>>>> https://q-continuum.net/qread/
>>>>>>> Most of my use of PDFs involves working through assigned readings in
>>>>>>> electronic textbooks. I know that QRead does not allow for editing
>>>>>>> within pdfs. However, if all you need is a relatively inexpensive (I
>>>>>>> think it was $30) pdf reader with good JAWs accessibility, then I
>>>>>>> think it might work.
>>>>>>> As a  note, I am still using JAWS 16 (ugh). Also, I learned about
>>>>>>> QRead from a personal friend who was (and maybe is) working with the
>>>>>>> developer for marketing. However, I haven't consulted with her in
>>>>>>> sending you this e-mail, and by no means do I get any sort of benefit
>>>>>>> from recommending the application. I will tell you that I'm working on
>>>>>>> an LL.M. right now, and have about twelve PDFs open in the application
>>>>>>> -- several law review articles and a few multi-hundred page textbooks
>>>>>>> -- and it is working just fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/10/18, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have JAWSb 2018 and acrobat dc. Jaws keeps automatically jumping up
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> down in PDFs when you select 'read entire document'. Control+up and
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> arrows also doesn't work for para-wise navigation; jaws says blank.
>>>>>>>> Finally,
>>>>>>>> even ctrl+shift+n works sporadically.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have spoken with VFO. They say that the first 2 problems, at least,
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been widely reported in recent weeks. I am using OCR and word versions
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> ad
>>>>>>>> hoc measures. Do others have any ideas, or can they report this to FS
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Adobe if they are facing it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rahul Bajaj
>>>>>>> Candidate for the BCL
>>>>>>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
>>>>>>> University of Oxford
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> --
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