[blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open to the Public
kelby carlson
kelbycarlson at gmail.com
Thu Aug 29 13:03:48 UTC 2019
I didn't use a BrailleNote, but I didn't ask for one. The bar was actually very nice; they even let me use my own laptops The MPRE was a lot more trouble; they wouldn't let me take the test on the computer..
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> On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I took the New York bar with a Braille note taker, electronic version of the exam loaded onto a laptop, extra time, and a scribe. The bar exam was a surprisingly pleasant experience in terms of getting accommodations.
>
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> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:31 PM
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> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
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> Another question:how many people have applied for and been granted the use of a braillenote for the actual bar exam?
> I ask because I do not wish to jeopardize future accommodations.
> Please help--thank you.
>
>
>
>> On 8/28/19, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well, a lot of times if they get the searchable PDF from the
>> publisher, as my school frequently did, there would not be headings
>> that would remain if the book was, for example, converted to HTML.
>> That isn't the school's fault, necessarily, and it actually could take
>> a lot of work for the school to add in all of it. I pretty much only
>> used PDF books for my classes unless they were on Bookshare, and
>> never had much of a problem.
>>
>> Which NFB documentation are you referring to?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Paul and Kelby,
>>>
>>> We could not seek any outside help with any graded writing
>>> assignments. As for not converting books, that was across the board
>>> with all provided material. As long as it was a searchable pdf, it
>>> was sufficient. No headings or list identification for exams. They
>>> did not think they should follow the guidance of the NFB on
>>> accessible documents even though I provided the information as proof
>>> I was not asking for more than what was reasonable.
>>>
>>> Aimee
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Paul Wick via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kelby,
>>>>
>>>> I think she was referring to the practice of a single class (called
>>>> Appellate Advocacy at my school) and extrapolating to the school in
>>>> general, but that’s just my guess.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never heard of a law school with these sorts of policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Was there a reason they could not convert the PDFs to Word or HTML?
>>>>> Even Adobe Acrobat can do that with reasonable success, not to
>>>>> mention more advanced OCR software.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also never heard of being forbidden to ask a Lexis/Westlaw rep
>>>>> for assistance with using their sites for research. This sounds
>>>>> like an unusual and sub-par law school--I can tell you that my
>>>>> experience was nothing like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, there are some free resources for searching case law
>>>>> out there, though they aren't wonderful. Besides that, it might
>>>>> also be worth Googling your topics to see if you can find law
>>>>> review articles--a lot of law schools put them online for free, and
>>>>> it might be a place to start.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you so much, Elizabeth. It is a very small school. Bret, the
>>>>>> law librarian I worked with was in fact helpful. When we learned
>>>>>> about legal research there, they skipped over the print materials
>>>>>> and the catalogue because I would be able to find everything I
>>>>>> needed on lexis and westlaw. I do not assume, per se, to
>>>>>> experience resistance. However, based on prior experience, I
>>>>>> suspect strongly the possibility. In other words, I hope to be met
>>>>>> with willingness but want to be prepared based on historical
>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>> Bret, however nice he is, will still have to go to the same people
>>>>>> who gave me so much resistance before. Unless, now that I think
>>>>>> about it, there is a different person handling accommodations for
>>>>>> the public than the person who handles accommodations for
>>>>>> students. 🤔 I might be on to something here.
>>>>>> Would this be the person who handles title IX? I know this is
>>>>>> covered by title IV of the ADA but I know they have a specific
>>>>>> title IX person.
>>>>>> Until
>>>>>> now I've been thinking it would be the same channel for students
>>>>>> but i might need to go through someone entirely different.🤔
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for locating info on VR. I am looking for binding precedents
>>>>>> relevant to my situation. Thus the need for case law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for Aira, I have informed the school of the service and
>>>>>> availability of the site access program. I highly doubt they have
>>>>>> moved on the suggestion.
>>>>>> It was suggested that the school would not admit a blind student
>>>>>> in the future due to their inability to provide services based on
>>>>>> administrative burden. So, I doubt they will become a Site Access
>>>>>> Location for Aira because they will not have a need or compelling
>>>>>> reason to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Amy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe you can find information regarding rehabilitation services
>>>>>>> online without using any of the law databases. It should be rather
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> find the Rehabilitation Act as amended online. However, since each
>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>> has their own procedures and policies regarding vocational
>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>> services, it would be wise to contact your state vocational
>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>> agency to obtain a copy of the state plan regarding vocational
>>>>>>> rehabilitation services for your particular state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if the library is able to assist you in finding print copies of
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> you are looking for in terns of your research, is there any way that
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> could simply be scanned so you can access it on your own? It would
>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>> reasonable for the library to provide the public with a way of being
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to copy or save the print materials they find in the library if they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not able to gain access to it using the databases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand you encountered some trouble with this college or
>>>>>>> university
>>>>>>> before when you were a student. However, were your problems directly
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the staff at the library? If not, then I would give them a chance
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> assuming you will encounter problems with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has been my experience that simply because you encounter unfriendly
>>>>>>> people in one department of a college or university that it does not
>>>>>>> automatically mean that you will be treated the same way when working
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> other people who work in a different department. So I encourage yu to
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> the people in the library a chance before assuming they will not be
>>>>>>> willing to work with you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a student I have also learned that a preferred accommodation is not
>>>>>>> always a reasonable accommodation that a college or university can
>>>>>>> provide. For example, if the library is not able to install JAWS or
>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>> on one of their computers, but instead provides you with a reader that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> willing to help you, then they are providing you with a reasonable
>>>>>>> accommodation even though it may not be your preferred accommodation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, have you contacted Aira to see if they have become a site
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> since you were a student at this particular college or university? Or
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> there a way to use BE My Eyes instead of Aira to help you conduct yur
>>>>>>> research? I am not familiar with these services, so I am not sure if
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is a vast difference between them except for the fact that one is free
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the other requires a paid subscription for extended use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to conduct your research.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:03 PM
>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the Public
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maura,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot see them being willing to provide an assistant to help me
>>>>>>> locate
>>>>>>> and reed the print materials. I will most likely be conducting
>>>>>>> in-depth
>>>>>>> research regarding a few topics. I intend to be there during the
>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>> time it is open to the public. It may take a couple weeks. Could take
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> than a couple weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Broad Topic 1: Vocational Rehabilitation Services what they can and
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Broad Topic 2: Sidewalks, the ADA, and the blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Broad Topic 3: Public Transportation, the ADA, and the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With this said, it would be more realistic for them to allow access to
>>>>>>> lexis and westlaw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I should contact lexis and westlaw to see what their position on
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> situation such as this would be.🤔
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are independent access and reasonable accommodations equivalent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks James. That's what I was thinking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My issue then is how do I, independently, make use of the print
>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>> available? Would Lexis and westlaw be an accommodation for the print
>>>>>>>>> materials?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably, because you would be requesting a "fundamental
>>>>>>>>>> alteration"
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> their services available to the public and possibly asking them to
>>>>>>>>>> breach their agreement with Westlaw and Lexis, if there is one, to
>>>>>>>>>> restrict it to law students. However, you can request that Jaws or
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>> be installed on the public access computers. If they fight you on
>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>> then you have every right to make a lot of noise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2019 1:48 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, guys. I visited the law library web site and looked at their
>>>>>>>>>>> policies. They only give access to free resources for the general
>>>>>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is exactly what it says.
>>>>>>>>>>> "Commercial databases are for use by students, faculty and staff
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Widener Law Commonwealth.
>>>>>>>>>>> Off-campus access to the library databases is restricted to law
>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>> students, faculty and staff. Login requires the barcode number on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> back of your Widener ID card.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Patrons are permitted to use designated computers to search the
>>>>>>>>>>> library catalog and access free resources. Assistance is provided
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> needed. Library personnel can assist with research but will not
>>>>>>>>>>> conduct research on behalf of patrons. "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does this indicate I cannot request access to lexis and westlaw as
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:29 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> George:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At the time I met with the Assistant County Administrator, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>> with Westlaw, Lexus and JAWS. To safeguard all interested
>>>>>>>>>>>> parties'
>>>>>>>>>>>> licensing agreements, putting JAWS on their computer was their
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was fine with me as the County Law Library is now accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> all blind residents as long as they know how to use JAWS. And I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure that's more than what the other 253 counties in Texas are
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law
>>>>>>>>>>>> Library
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open to the Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be a wonderful solution. I would be happy to bring my
>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. I am concerned they will refuse me access to lexis and
>>>>>>>>>>>> westlaw though. If they do refuse me access to lexis and westlaw,
>>>>>>>>>>>> would that count? Would I then be able to file against them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Jorge Paez via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they need to install JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn???t you just bring your own computer and get set up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their network either through Ethernet or Wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I???m guessing you???d use your library information to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authenticate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with their Lexis or WestLaw licenses?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The law library I use is the Tarrant County Law Library,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County and funded by taxpayers money, which might make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, some years back, I approached the Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator about my access to the library materials. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be done to provide access to persons who are blind and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The County purchased JAWS and installed same on their public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the front of the library. With this, I have access to every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform imaginable, including Lexus and Westlaw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes, a conversation with the appropriate authority solves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. Sometimes not. The worst they can do is say no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel McBride
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort Worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really not sure why nobody has responded to this. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your advise. Surely someone here can offer a suggestion or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resending this email as I need to do a good bit of legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. I have requested assistance from this list for the below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect difficulties at the location I must utilize to conduct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys please read and advise on the below information. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully prepared to respond appropriately when I face the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for accommodations. If there are additional details needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer my questions, I will be glad to provide for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarification. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do need your assistance and most certainly appreciate any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions about (1) access at law libraries open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) possible accommodations, and (3) if denied accommodations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filing an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint that possibly includes prior issues I experienced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Has anybody had experience visiting a law library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations to permit them to do independant legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit a law library to do some legal research. The closest one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attended and had so much problems with regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, I would like to know my rights for accessing content at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member of the public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) What accommodations can I request? Can I request a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and access to lexis and westlaw? I have sent them info on Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed hoping they would utilize it if they ever had another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student in the future. Could I ask for them to provide Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a paid Aira subscription and cannot afford one at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avenue will only be helpful if they are a site access.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3) If I do not get any of the assistance you recommend, can I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint for this incident? Is it possible to relate it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had as a student?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I greatly appreciate any and all advice in this matter as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitent to do the research but it really needs to be done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a fight with them. I have been very apprehensive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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