[blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open to the Public

Seif-Eldeen Saqallah seifs at umich.edu
Thu Aug 29 13:07:30 UTC 2019


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On 8/29/19, kelby carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I didn't use a BrailleNote, but I didn't ask for one. The bar was actually
> very nice; they even let me use my own laptops The MPRE was a lot more
> trouble; they wouldn't let me take the test on the computer..
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I took the New York bar with a Braille note taker, electronic version of
>> the exam loaded onto a laptop, extra time, and a scribe. The bar exam was
>> a surprisingly pleasant experience in terms of getting accommodations.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:31 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open to
>> the Public
>>
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>>
>> Another question:how many people have applied for and been granted the use
>> of a braillenote for the actual bar exam?
>> I ask because I do not wish to jeopardize future accommodations.
>> Please help--thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/28/19, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Well, a lot of times if they get the searchable PDF from the
>>> publisher, as my school frequently did, there would not be headings
>>> that would remain if the book was, for example, converted to HTML.
>>> That isn't the school's fault, necessarily, and it actually could take
>>> a lot of work for the school to add in all of it. I pretty much only
>>> used PDF  books for my classes unless they were on Bookshare, and
>>> never had much of a problem.
>>>
>>> Which NFB documentation are you referring to?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Paul and Kelby,
>>>>
>>>> We could not seek any outside help with any graded writing
>>>> assignments. As for not converting books, that was across the board
>>>> with all provided material. As long as it was a searchable pdf, it
>>>> was sufficient. No headings or list identification for exams. They
>>>> did not think they should follow the guidance of the NFB on
>>>> accessible documents even though I provided the information as proof
>>>> I was not asking for more than what was reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> Aimee
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Paul Wick via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kelby,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think she was referring to the practice of a single class (called
>>>>> Appellate Advocacy at my school) and extrapolating to the school in
>>>>> general, but that’s just my guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never heard of a law school with these sorts of policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was there a reason they could not convert the PDFs to Word or HTML?
>>>>>> Even Adobe Acrobat can do that with reasonable success, not to
>>>>>> mention more advanced OCR software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also never heard of being forbidden to ask a Lexis/Westlaw rep
>>>>>> for assistance with using their sites for research. This sounds
>>>>>> like an unusual and sub-par law school--I can tell you that my
>>>>>> experience was nothing like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, there are some free resources for searching case law
>>>>>> out there, though they aren't wonderful. Besides that, it might
>>>>>> also be worth Googling your topics to see if you can find law
>>>>>> review articles--a lot of law schools put them online for free, and
>>>>>> it might be a place to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thank you so much, Elizabeth. It is a very small school. Bret, the
>>>>>>> law librarian I worked with was in fact helpful. When we learned
>>>>>>> about legal research there, they skipped over the print materials
>>>>>>> and the catalogue because I would be able to find everything I
>>>>>>> needed on lexis and westlaw. I do not assume, per se, to
>>>>>>> experience resistance. However, based on prior experience, I
>>>>>>> suspect strongly the possibility. In other words, I hope to be met
>>>>>>> with willingness but want to be prepared based on historical
>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>> Bret, however nice he is, will still have to go to the same people
>>>>>>> who gave me so much resistance before. Unless, now that I think
>>>>>>> about it, there is a different person handling accommodations for
>>>>>>> the public than the person who handles accommodations for
>>>>>>> students. 🤔 I might be on to something here.
>>>>>>> Would this be the person who handles title IX? I know this is
>>>>>>> covered by title IV of the ADA but I know they have a specific
>>>>>>> title IX person.
>>>>>>> Until
>>>>>>> now I've been thinking it would be the same channel for students
>>>>>>> but i might need to go through someone entirely different.🤔
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for locating info on VR. I am looking for binding precedents
>>>>>>> relevant to my situation. Thus the need for case law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for Aira, I have informed the school of the service and
>>>>>>> availability of the site access program. I highly doubt they have
>>>>>>> moved on the suggestion.
>>>>>>> It was suggested that the school would  not admit a blind student
>>>>>>> in the future due to their inability to provide services based on
>>>>>>> administrative burden. So, I doubt they will become a Site Access
>>>>>>> Location for Aira because they will not have a need or compelling
>>>>>>> reason to do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Amy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe you can find information regarding rehabilitation services
>>>>>>>> online without using any of the law databases. It should be rather
>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> find the Rehabilitation Act as amended online. However, since each
>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> has their own procedures and policies regarding vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>>> services, it would be wise to contact your state vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>>> agency to obtain a copy of the state plan regarding vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation services for your particular state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if the library is able to assist you in finding print copies
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> you are looking for in terns of your research, is there any way that
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> could simply be scanned so you can access it on your own? It would
>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>> reasonable for the library to provide the public with a way of being
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to copy or save the print materials they find in the library if they
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not able to gain access to it using the databases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand you encountered some trouble with this college or
>>>>>>>> university
>>>>>>>> before when you were a student. However, were your problems directly
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the staff at the library? If not, then I would give them a chance
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> assuming you will encounter problems with them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has been my experience that simply because you encounter
>>>>>>>> unfriendly
>>>>>>>> people in one department of a college or university that it does not
>>>>>>>> automatically mean that you will be treated the same way when
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> other people who work in a different department. So I encourage yu
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> the people in the library a chance before assuming they will not be
>>>>>>>> willing to work with you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a student I have also learned that a preferred accommodation is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> always a reasonable accommodation that a college or university can
>>>>>>>> provide. For example, if the library is not able to install JAWS or
>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>> on one of their computers, but instead provides you with a reader
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> willing to help you, then they are providing you with a reasonable
>>>>>>>> accommodation even though it may not be your preferred
>>>>>>>> accommodation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally, have you contacted Aira to see if they have become a site
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> since you were a student at this particular college or university?
>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> there a way to use BE My Eyes instead of Aira to help you conduct
>>>>>>>> yur
>>>>>>>> research? I am not familiar with these services, so I am not sure if
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is a vast difference between them except for the fact that one is
>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the other requires a paid subscription for extended use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to conduct your
>>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:03 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the Public
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maura,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I cannot see them being willing to provide an assistant to help me
>>>>>>>> locate
>>>>>>>> and reed the print materials. I will most likely be conducting
>>>>>>>> in-depth
>>>>>>>> research regarding a few topics. I intend to be there during the
>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>> time it is open to the public. It may take a couple weeks. Could
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> than a couple weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 1: Vocational Rehabilitation Services what they can and
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 2: Sidewalks, the ADA, and the blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 3: Public Transportation, the ADA, and the Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With this said, it would be more realistic for them to allow access
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> lexis and westlaw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I should contact lexis and westlaw to see what their position
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> situation such as this would be.🤔
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are independent access and reasonable accommodations equivalent?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James. That's what I was thinking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My issue then is how do I, independently, make use of the print
>>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>>> available? Would Lexis and westlaw be an accommodation for the
>>>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>>>> materials?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably, because you would be requesting a "fundamental
>>>>>>>>>>> alteration"
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> their services available to the public and possibly asking them
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> breach their agreement with Westlaw and Lexis, if there is one,
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> restrict it to law students. However, you can request that Jaws
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>> be installed on the public access computers. If they fight you on
>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>> then you have every right to make a lot of noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2019 1:48 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, guys. I visited the law library web site and looked at their
>>>>>>>>>>>> policies. They only give access to free resources for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is exactly what it says.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commercial databases are for use by students, faculty and staff
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Widener Law Commonwealth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off-campus access to the library databases is restricted to law
>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>> students, faculty and staff. Login requires the barcode number
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> back of your Widener ID card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrons are permitted to use designated computers to search the
>>>>>>>>>>>> library catalog and access free resources. Assistance is
>>>>>>>>>>>> provided
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed. Library personnel can assist with research but will not
>>>>>>>>>>>> conduct research on behalf of patrons. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this indicate I cannot request access to lexis and westlaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:29 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the time I met with the Assistant County Administrator, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Westlaw, Lexus and JAWS. To safeguard all interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parties'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> licensing agreements, putting JAWS on their computer was their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was fine with me as the County Law Library is now accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all blind residents as long as they know how to use JAWS. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure that's more than what the other 253 counties in Texas are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open to the Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be a wonderful solution. I would be happy to bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. I am concerned they will refuse me access to lexis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> westlaw though. If they do refuse me access to lexis and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> westlaw,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would that count? Would I then be able to file against them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Jorge Paez via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they need to install JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn???t you just bring your own computer and get set up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their network either through Ethernet or Wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I???m guessing you???d use your library information to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authenticate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with their Lexis or WestLaw licenses?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> College.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information and you recognize the sender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The law library I use is the Tarrant County Law Library,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County and funded by taxpayers money, which might make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, some years back, I approached the Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator about my access to the library materials. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be done to provide access to persons who are blind and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The County purchased JAWS and installed same on their public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the front of the library. With this, I have access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform imaginable, including Lexus and Westlaw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes, a conversation with the appropriate authority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. Sometimes not. The worst they can do is say no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel McBride
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort Worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really not sure why nobody has responded to this. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your advise. Surely someone here can offer a suggestion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resending this email as I need to do a good bit of legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. I have requested assistance from this list  for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect difficulties at the location I must utilize to conduct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys please read and advise on the below information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully prepared to respond appropriately when I face the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for accommodations. If there are additional details needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer my questions, I will be glad to provide for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarification. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do need your assistance and most certainly appreciate any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions about (1) access at law libraries open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) possible accommodations, and (3) if denied accommodations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filing an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint that possibly includes prior issues I experienced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Has anybody had experience visiting a law library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations  to permit them to do independant legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit a law library to do some legal research. The closest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attended and had so much problems with regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, I would like to know my rights for accessing content at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member of the public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) What accommodations can I  request? Can I request a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and access to lexis and westlaw?  I have sent them info on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed hoping they would utilize it if they ever had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student in the future. Could I ask for them to provide Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a paid Aira subscription and cannot afford one at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avenue will only be helpful if they are a site access.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3) If I do not get any of the assistance you recommend, can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint for this incident? Is it possible to relate it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had as a student?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I greatly appreciate any and all advice in this matter as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitent to do the research but it really needs to be done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a fight with them. I have been very apprehensive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies
J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

University of Michigan
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