From chris.stewart at uky.edu Wed May 1 14:11:23 2019 From: chris.stewart at uky.edu (Stewart, Christopher K) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 09:11:23 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] iManage In-Reply-To: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A53924607F2E@SM-EXMAIL11.loeb.com> References: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A53924607F2E@SM-EXMAIL11.loeb.com> Message-ID: Hi Angie, I talked to the IT folks at the firm, and they've said it's no problem to start me off with FileSite on my computer. I don't know what they're running, but do you know what version you're using? I just ask because it looks like they will figure out how to install whatever we know already works. Thanks, chris On 4/30/19, Angela Matney wrote: > Hey Chris, > > I think that the accessibility (or lack thereof) of iManage depends on the > exact iManage product and version you are using. There’s FileSite, DeskSite, > and I think some other sites as well. These are not created equal. My firm > arranged for me to use a version of FileSite (which integrates with Outlook) > and used a scripter to help label a few fields. We may use the scripter for > a few other things as well, but the version of FileSite we are using is > accessible enough that I can run searches, as well as save and retrieve > documents. I used this for nearly eight years at a prior firm. > > I also tried using DeskSite, and that was completely inaccessible, as far as > I could tell. When I was using DeskSite, my only real option was to ask my > assistant to perform tasks that required iManage. I found this to be > difficult with respect to searches, because it’s just easier for me to > scroll through a list of search results myself and see what might be > relevant. But perhaps I could have gotten used to this method in time. > > Do you know which iteration of iManage you will be using? > > Best, > > Angie > > Angela Matney, CIPP/US > Attorney at Law > [Loeb & Loeb LLP] > Loeb and Loeb LLP > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | > E-mail:amatney at loeb.com > Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San > Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com > > > > ________________________________ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files > or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential > information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to > this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this > transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy > the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in > any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. > ________________________________ > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Stewart, > Christopher K via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:39 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Stewart, Christopher K > Subject: [blindlaw] iManage > > > > Hi All: > > I'm starting at a firm in September that uses iManage, asI understand > most larger firms do. In talking to one friend, I learned it's > virtually inaccessible. So, to those of you litigating at firms that > use it, I'd love to hear your work-arounds. > > Thanks, > chris > > > -- > Chris K. Stewart > Attorney at Law > KBA #97351 > Ph: > (502)457-1757 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com > -- Chris K. Stewart Attorney at Law KBA #97351 Ph: (502)457-1757 From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed May 1 15:49:49 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 11:49:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] iManage In-Reply-To: References: <1BAC65FD6F6D1140A9F58F9D21A1A53924607F2E@SM-EXMAIL11.loeb.com> Message-ID: So jealous of you, Chris!!! On 5/1/19, Stewart, Christopher K via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Angie, > > I talked to the IT folks at the firm, and they've said it's no problem > to start me off with FileSite on my computer. I don't know what > they're running, but do you know what version you're using? I just ask > because it looks like they will figure out how to install whatever we > know already works. > > Thanks, > chris > > > On 4/30/19, Angela Matney wrote: >> Hey Chris, >> >> I think that the accessibility (or lack thereof) of iManage depends on the >> exact iManage product and version you are using. There’s FileSite, >> DeskSite, >> and I think some other sites as well. These are not created equal. My firm >> arranged for me to use a version of FileSite (which integrates with >> Outlook) >> and used a scripter to help label a few fields. We may use the scripter >> for >> a few other things as well, but the version of FileSite we are using is >> accessible enough that I can run searches, as well as save and retrieve >> documents. I used this for nearly eight years at a prior firm. >> >> I also tried using DeskSite, and that was completely inaccessible, as far >> as >> I could tell. When I was using DeskSite, my only real option was to ask my >> assistant to perform tasks that required iManage. I found this to be >> difficult with respect to searches, because it’s just easier for me to >> scroll through a list of search results myself and see what might be >> relevant. But perhaps I could have gotten used to this method in time. >> >> Do you know which iteration of iManage you will be using? >> >> Best, >> >> Angie >> >> Angela Matney, CIPP/US >> Attorney at Law >> [Loeb & Loeb LLP] >> Loeb and Loeb LLP >> 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 >> Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | >> E-mail:amatney at loeb.com >> Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San >> Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files >> or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential >> information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended >> recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, >> distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to >> this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this >> transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please >> destroy >> the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in >> any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. >> ________________________________ >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Stewart, >> Christopher K via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:39 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Stewart, Christopher K >> Subject: [blindlaw] iManage >> >> >> >> Hi All: >> >> I'm starting at a firm in September that uses iManage, asI understand >> most larger firms do. In talking to one friend, I learned it's >> virtually inaccessible. So, to those of you litigating at firms that >> use it, I'd love to hear your work-arounds. >> >> Thanks, >> chris >> >> >> -- >> Chris K. Stewart >> Attorney at Law >> KBA #97351 >> Ph: >> (502)457-1757 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com >> > > > -- > Chris K. Stewart > Attorney at Law > KBA #97351 > Ph: > (502)457-1757 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Wed May 1 18:28:51 2019 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 14:28:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pennsylvania's UJS Portal Message-ID: All, For anyone practicing in Pennsylvania, is there a way to reliably use the PA Courts UJS Portal to get access to docket sheets? When I do a search, clicking on the link to preview the sheets on a case does not do anything. I have had occasional success, but it appears to just be random. Is there some trick to it or is there an accessible site? I am using NVDA. -- Kelby Carlson From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed May 1 19:03:51 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:03:51 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Urgent: Do NOT upgrade to latest version of Jaws--introduces new track change bug Message-ID: <2C2B4229-50C3-425D-9CCD-2353DDC972CD@gmail.com> More later. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, > > For anyone practicing in Pennsylvania, is there a way to reliably use > the PA Courts UJS Portal to get access to docket sheets? When I do a > search, clicking on the link to preview the sheets on a case does not > do anything. I have had occasional success, but it appears to just be > random. Is there some trick to it or is there an accessible site? I am > using NVDA. > > > -- > Kelby Carlson > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com From cabusgeorgia at gmail.com Wed May 1 19:49:28 2019 From: cabusgeorgia at gmail.com (Georgia Cabus) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Question Message-ID: Hi everyone, I need advice from lawyers regarding my medical records. I requested my full medical records from Kaiser Permanente and they sent me a secure email to download it. Problem, its not my records. Somebody else'a and now the concern is where are mine or if it was sent to this other person or whomever. All of my medical records (years). I already called their member services (since the medical records department is not responding and just goes to a voicemail box which is already full) and reported the problem. I want to have proper documentation regarding this and it is concerning that my full medical records are I don't know where. I'm in VA. Anyone who knows how to properly deal with this matter or point me to the direction, if you could email me off list. Thank you, Georgia From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed May 1 20:12:29 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 16:12:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Message-ID: Dear all, I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released today. As I expected, these are only being implemented in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers to obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in a mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following the change. A few notes on this: a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." But they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change when track changes aren't on. 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment bubbles! Notes. a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have it addressed in the June release. b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the mark up mode you desire. 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in footnotes. 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from above the line as well. 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. That should solve it. The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that as well. Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, and i am very pleased. Thanks, From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed May 1 20:16:25 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 16:16:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Correction; latest version of Jaws--introduces new track change bug **into Microsoft Word 2016 only** Message-ID: Folks, In my hurry to send out the earlier email (which I sent from my phone while in the meeting), I accidentally misspoke. The newest version of Jaws, which wasn't meant to address anything about track changes in Microsoft Office 2016, apparently "broke" something **only** in earlier versions, not Office 365. No one had any more information than that, but suffice it to say that I was told to tell anyone using MS Word 2016 not to upgrade because the track change experience would be negatively impacted. Vispero has written scripts in the short term, which you can write to me for if you happen to have upgraded and now find yourself in a bind. I have permission to share them. They aim to release a patch ASAP to fix whatever happened. Laura On 5/1/19, Laura Wolk wrote: > More later. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 1, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> For anyone practicing in Pennsylvania, is there a way to reliably use >> the PA Courts UJS Portal to get access to docket sheets? When I do a >> search, clicking on the link to preview the sheets on a case does not >> do anything. I have had occasional success, but it appears to just be >> random. Is there some trick to it or is there an accessible site? I am >> using NVDA. >> >> >> -- >> Kelby Carlson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From rodalcidonis at gmail.com Wed May 1 22:01:01 2019 From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 18:01:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B637341D4A94C858DE111BB17B9332D@LAPTOPD7H4OV38> Thanks for your leadership on this... Rod Alcidonis, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 4:12 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Dear all, I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released today. As I expected, these are only being implemented in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers to obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in a mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following the change. A few notes on this: a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." But they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change when track changes aren't on. 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment bubbles! Notes. a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have it addressed in the June release. b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the mark up mode you desire. 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in footnotes. 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from above the line as well. 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. That should solve it. The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that as well. Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, and i am very pleased. Thanks, _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rodalcidonis%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu May 2 01:01:10 2019 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 20:01:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Laura, Thank you for this great news and, most importantly, for advocating so diligently with Microsoft and Vispero to improve the accessibility of Track Changes. I can’t wait to test out the fixes! Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 3:14 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Dear all, I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released today. As I expected, these are only being implemented in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers to obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in a mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following the change. A few notes on this: a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." But they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change when track changes aren't on. 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment bubbles! Notes. a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have it addressed in the June release. b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the mark up mode you desire. 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in footnotes. 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from above the line as well. 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. That should solve it. The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that as well. Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, and i am very pleased. Thanks, _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Thu May 2 01:14:38 2019 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 21:14:38 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Correction; latest version of Jaws--introduces new track change bug **into Microsoft Word 2016 only** In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <024901d50084$6a69a850$3f3cf8f0$@gmail.com> Good evening Laura: Adding my thanks for your efforts. I am very dependent on track changes. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 4:16 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Correction; latest version of Jaws--introduces new track change bug **into Microsoft Word 2016 only** Folks, In my hurry to send out the earlier email (which I sent from my phone while in the meeting), I accidentally misspoke. The newest version of Jaws, which wasn't meant to address anything about track changes in Microsoft Office 2016, apparently "broke" something **only** in earlier versions, not Office 365. No one had any more information than that, but suffice it to say that I was told to tell anyone using MS Word 2016 not to upgrade because the track change experience would be negatively impacted. Vispero has written scripts in the short term, which you can write to me for if you happen to have upgraded and now find yourself in a bind. I have permission to share them. They aim to release a patch ASAP to fix whatever happened. Laura On 5/1/19, Laura Wolk wrote: > More later. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 1, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> For anyone practicing in Pennsylvania, is there a way to reliably use >> the PA Courts UJS Portal to get access to docket sheets? When I do a >> search, clicking on the link to preview the sheets on a case does not >> do anything. I have had occasional success, but it appears to just be >> random. Is there some trick to it or is there an accessible site? I >> am using NVDA. >> >> >> -- >> Kelby Carlson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gm >> ail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From amarjain at amarjain.com Thu May 2 02:53:13 2019 From: amarjain at amarjain.com (Amar Jain) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 08:23:13 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 References: Message-ID: <000201d50092$313c5380$93b4fa80$@amarjain.com> Laura, Thank you so much for tirelessly working with Vispero and Microsoft on this. And actually not just working on this, but getting this implemented. I have Office 365 on my personal laptop, and I just tested all that you mentioned. And it worked like a charm! Generations of lawyers who have to deal with large documents on a day to day basis will bless you forever. I have been writing to them since 2013! As far as pushing for reasonable accommodation is concerned, can we have this somewhere documented publicly, so that it is easier for us to convince our employers? In the firm where I work for instance which is based in India, we are still on Office 2013, and I cannot expect them to migrate everyone on to Office 365 as it is a huge volume licensing cost. But I am going to give it a shot! Regards, Amar Jain -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 6:31 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Laura, Thank you for this great news and, most importantly, for advocating so diligently with Microsoft and Vispero to improve the accessibility of Track Changes. I can’t wait to test out the fixes! Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 3:14 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Dear all, I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released today. As I expected, these are only being implemented in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers to obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in a mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following the change. A few notes on this: a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." But they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change when track changes aren't on. 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment bubbles! Notes. a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have it addressed in the June release. b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the mark up mode you desire. 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in footnotes. 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from above the line as well. 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. That should solve it. The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that as well. Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, and i am very pleased. Thanks, _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amarjain%40amarjain.com From davant1958 at gmail.com Thu May 2 12:51:42 2019 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 07:51:42 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014801d500e5$cb1a8000$614f8000$@gmail.com> Dear Laura, Thank you for this great advocacy. Your time and attention to these issues has helped not only lawyers, but other blind people using advanced word features. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 3:12 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 Dear all, I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released today. As I expected, these are only being implemented in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers to obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in a mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following the change. A few notes on this: a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." But they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change when track changes aren't on. 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment bubbles! Notes. a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have it addressed in the June release. b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the mark up mode you desire. 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in footnotes. 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from above the line as well. 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. That should solve it. The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that as well. Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, and i am very pleased. Thanks, _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu May 2 14:22:33 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 07:22:33 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Question about use of technology while interning Message-ID: <529A2E8B-03E9-4994-8500-1BF1C0F442FA@gmail.com> Hi All, I'm about to finish my third year of college as an English major and am considering the possibility of going into law. I secured myself an internship at my campus's law school, which begins at the end of May. I will be working to promote disability rights, but also performing general tasks such as writing memos, updating social media, and making phone calls. I will be one of very few interns. I typically use my iPhone connected to my Braille display, for most tasks, but also have a Dell laptop. I just wanted to ask how much work you do with a phone and Braille display, and how much work is necessary for the computer. Thanks, Vejas From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Thu May 2 17:10:48 2019 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 12:10:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Message-ID: Colleagues, Have any of you had any luck e-signing documents using Adobe Sign with a screen reader? If so, could you please share any workarounds you used to interact with the signature panel? I have no trouble selecting recipients, typing my message, or uploading files for signature, but once I navigate to the next screen where signatures need to be added, I can navigate to, but not interact with, any of the signature fields with the latest version of JAWS or NVDA. I’ve been accessing Adobe Sign on-line through Chrome, not in Acrobat itself. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I am expected to e-sign contracts and send out to customers on a client’s behalf. The client doesn’t know I am blind, and if I don’t have to, I would prefer not to disclose this in case it would make the client feel apprehensive in any way, potentially jeopardizing the relationship. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 17:21:44 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 13:21:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Message-ID: Hello all, I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it sooner rather than later. Laura From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Thu May 2 17:46:44 2019 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 17:46:44 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last year, I researched the issue of whether the Adobe signature-signing process is accessible . I found that Adobe itself acknowledged that the process is not accessible. I have to have someone help me with the parft of the process that requires using a mouse. Some of the process is accessible to me using JAWS but when it comes to the part that requires drawing a box for the signature, it is not accessible. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 10:11 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Colleagues, Have any of you had any luck e-signing documents using Adobe Sign with a screen reader? If so, could you please share any workarounds you used to interact with the signature panel? I have no trouble selecting recipients, typing my message, or uploading files for signature, but once I navigate to the next screen where signatures need to be added, I can navigate to, but not interact with, any of the signature fields with the latest version of JAWS or NVDA. I’ve been accessing Adobe Sign on-line through Chrome, not in Acrobat itself. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I am expected to e-sign contracts and send out to customers on a client’s behalf. The client doesn’t know I am blind, and if I don’t have to, I would prefer not to disclose this in case it would make the client feel apprehensive in any way, potentially jeopardizing the relationship. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Thu May 2 18:40:24 2019 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 14:40:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting in the Bluebook Message-ID: All, For those of you who need to do lots of citing, I am curious what your preferred manner of access to the Bluebook is. Bookshare has copies of the 19th and 20th editions. Unfortunately, neither the DAISY nor the BRF files contain formatting indicators like itallics and bold; and if you know anything about legal citation, you know these can be critical (and annoying). I had the online version of the Bluebook in school, but I do not anymore. Besides that version, what do you all use if not the Bookshare one? -- Kelby Carlson From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu May 2 18:44:30 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 18:44:30 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting in the Bluebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had my state library for the blind transcribe the bluebook in Braille. I recommend subscribing to the online version of the Bluebook. You could ask for reimbursement for this from your employer as a reasonable accommodation. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 1:40 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelby Carlson Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting in the Bluebook All, For those of you who need to do lots of citing, I am curious what your preferred manner of access to the Bluebook is. Bookshare has copies of the 19th and 20th editions. Unfortunately, neither the DAISY nor the BRF files contain formatting indicators like itallics and bold; and if you know anything about legal citation, you know these can be critical (and annoying). I had the online version of the Bluebook in school, but I do not anymore. Besides that version, what do you all use if not the Bookshare one? -- Kelby Carlson _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From shanew at outlook.com Thu May 2 18:44:56 2019 From: shanew at outlook.com (Shane Wegner) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 18:44:56 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting in the Bluebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do use the online version which is quite inexpensive. Jaws can be set to read the italics so i have had no issues with that version. Shane Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2019, at 13:41, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > All, > > For those of you who need to do lots of citing, I am curious what your > preferred manner of access to the Bluebook is. Bookshare has copies of > the 19th and 20th editions. Unfortunately, neither the DAISY nor the > BRF files contain formatting indicators like itallics and bold; and if > you know anything about legal citation, you know these can be critical > (and annoying). I had the online version of the Bluebook in school, > but I do not anymore. Besides that version, what do you all use if not > the Bookshare one? > > > > -- > Kelby Carlson > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shanew%40outlook.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 19:19:50 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 15:19:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Formatting in the Bluebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Online version. Inexpensive and portable. On 5/2/19, Shane Wegner via BlindLaw wrote: > I do use the online version which is quite inexpensive. Jaws can be set to > read the italics so i have had no issues with that version. > > Shane > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 2, 2019, at 13:41, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> For those of you who need to do lots of citing, I am curious what your >> preferred manner of access to the Bluebook is. Bookshare has copies of >> the 19th and 20th editions. Unfortunately, neither the DAISY nor the >> BRF files contain formatting indicators like itallics and bold; and if >> you know anything about legal citation, you know these can be critical >> (and annoying). I had the online version of the Bluebook in school, >> but I do not anymore. Besides that version, what do you all use if not >> the Bookshare one? >> >> >> >> -- >> Kelby Carlson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shanew%40outlook.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From NSingh at cov.com Thu May 2 20:05:39 2019 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:05:39 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years ago that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points could still be made sans pictures. I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think you are not really talking about these types of briefs though. At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have the entire range of visuals. The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving money laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount of money, and parties. I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, since this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, so all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure more than clarify. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Hello all, I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it sooner rather than later. Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 20:17:30 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 16:17:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you were to read the following in a case: "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: Image2618294827328492. Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of whatever plaintiff submitted. Does that make more sense? On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years ago > that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook > sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as > tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points > could still be made sans pictures. > > I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I > was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where > the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think you > are not really talking about these types of briefs though. > > At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are > verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have > the entire range of visuals. > > The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a > productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving money > laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly > simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount of > money, and parties. > > I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof > charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. > making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, since > this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. > I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, so > all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure > more than clarify. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk > via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hello all, > > I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, > but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded > images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into > cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely > pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could > be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has > anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of > increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on > it sooner rather than later. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu May 2 20:27:01 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:27:01 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't encountered this in case documents, but given the increased use of screenshots and images containing text in professional scenarios (expense reports, receipts, etc.) and in online communications, it does not surprise me at all. Reversing this trend feels like a monumental task, especially when I can't even get my friends and colleagues who are mindful of my need for accessible documents to produce them. Given that these embedded images are created by so many people and come from varied sources, how do you propose we attack the problem? Isn't it more complicated than merely educating our colleagues and courts regarding how to make documents accessible? Would we gain traction through the ABA? How do we address the fact that blind attorneys do not all have access to the same screen reading and OCR tools? I don't mean to be a downer. I am genuinely curious to develop a strategy to address this issue. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 3:18 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Hi, I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you were to read the following in a case: "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: Image2618294827328492. Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of whatever plaintiff submitted. Does that make more sense? On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few > years ago that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our > textbook sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the > brief acting as tour guide of the structure. That being said, the > important legal points could still be made sans pictures. > > I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs > when I was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography > matter, where the purportedly offending photograph was part of the > appendix. I think you are not really talking about these types of briefs though. > > At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs > are verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, > which have the entire range of visuals. > > The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a > productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving > money laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can > be fairly simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate > date, amount of money, and parties. > > I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using > proof charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. > making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, > since this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. > I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary > profession, so all these charts, with their color coding and flow > diagrams, may obscure more than clarify. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura > Wolk via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hello all, > > I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, > but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded > images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into > cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely > pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could > be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has > anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of > increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on > it sooner rather than later. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gma > il.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Thu May 2 20:27:16 2019 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:27:16 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Laura, That is what I thought you were talking about. I have noticed a few of those recently on Westlaw. I agree with you it is not a good trend and we should try to get out ahead of it. I will mention it to the research attorneys I know at the Court of Appeal here in Riverside, and see if I can get some dialogue started. Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist in Appellate Law The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization Holstein, Taylor and Unitt A Professional Corporation 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103 Riverside, CA 92501 Tel: 951-682-7030 Fax: 951-684-8061 www.holsteinlaw.com mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 1:18 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Hi, I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you were to read the following in a case: "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: Image2618294827328492. Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of whatever plaintiff submitted. Does that make more sense? On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years ago > that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook > sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as > tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points > could still be made sans pictures. > > I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I > was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where > the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think you > are not really talking about these types of briefs though. > > At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are > verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have > the entire range of visuals. > > The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a > productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving money > laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly > simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount of > money, and parties. > > I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof > charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. > making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, since > this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. > I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, so > all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure > more than clarify. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk > via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hello all, > > I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, > but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded > images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into > cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely > pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could > be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has > anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of > increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on > it sooner rather than later. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com ________________________________ From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu May 2 20:36:29 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:36:29 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Laura: Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a document on Westlaw. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:22 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Hello all, I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it sooner rather than later. Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 20:36:45 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 16:36:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tai, You're not being a downer, you're being realistic. I don't have the answers. But I think this is another one of those efforts where our collective creativity and brain power can help us. For instance, every court has rules about forms and contents of briefs. So, for instance, on the Third Circuit, all pdfs were supposed to be OCR'd. Many were not. I had the ability to deal with them. But if I didn't, we'd be perfectly within our right to kick the brief and force the party to refile correctly. We could strategize, it would be laborious, yes, to try implementing accessibility guidelines into these brief requirements. I also think going to the ABA would be helpful on the education front. I just foresee this becoming a bigger and bigger access barrier for the exact reasons you note. On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I haven't encountered this in case documents, but given the increased use of > screenshots and images containing text in professional scenarios (expense > reports, receipts, etc.) and in online communications, it does not surprise > me at all. Reversing this trend feels like a monumental task, especially > when I can't even get my friends and colleagues who are mindful of my need > for accessible documents to produce them. Given that these embedded images > are created by so many people and come from varied sources, how do you > propose we attack the problem? Isn't it more complicated than merely > educating our colleagues and courts regarding how to make documents > accessible? Would we gain traction through the ABA? How do we address the > fact that blind attorneys do not all have access to the same screen reading > and OCR tools? I don't mean to be a downer. I am genuinely curious to > develop a strategy to address this issue. > > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via > BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 3:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hi, > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not the use > of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the fact that, > rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded image. So Jaws > just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in Westlaw "Image+giant > string of numbers." So, for instance, if you were to read the following in > a case: > > "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the following > damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: > Image2618294827328492. > Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." > > You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported damages > were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of whatever > plaintiff submitted. > > Does that make more sense? > > On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few >> years ago that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our >> textbook sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the >> brief acting as tour guide of the structure. That being said, the >> important legal points could still be made sans pictures. >> >> I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs >> when I was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography >> matter, where the purportedly offending photograph was part of the >> appendix. I think you are not really talking about these types of briefs >> though. >> >> At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs >> are verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, >> which have the entire range of visuals. >> >> The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a >> productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving >> money laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can >> be fairly simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate >> date, amount of money, and parties. >> >> I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using >> proof charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, >> i.e. >> making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, >> since this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer >> friends. >> I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary >> profession, so all these charts, with their color coding and flow >> diagrams, may obscure more than clarify. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura >> Wolk via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, >> but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded >> images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into >> cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely >> pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could >> be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on >> it sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gma >> il.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From NSingh at cov.com Thu May 2 20:37:36 2019 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:37:36 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Message-ID: Ah, I understand. I think when file conversions happen from whatever is the word processor to final PDF or webpage, it could happen that the graphical content is coded in a way that just turns it into numbers and letters from JAWS' perspective. Westlaw, I agree, does not handle the tabular content well, and there is a way to render it into HTML code that JAWS could handle. I could let the Westlaw JAWS specialists know, but it helps if we have a bunch of people writing to them about the issue. It may be harder to deal with this in PDFs, because the table may end up looking like an image for JAWS, even though that same document in Word would have a table that JAWS could navigate. I suspect Adobe may have to visit its conversion processes if we were to make any progress on this. I am at a loss about screen shots other than gently telling people that it is not a productive format for the team because it is not a productive format for me. After a few emails saying I cannot read this, please describe, people do get the idea at my firm. -----Original Message----- From: Laura Wolk [mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:18 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Hi, I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you were to read the following in a case: "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: Image2618294827328492. Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of whatever plaintiff submitted. Does that make more sense? On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years ago > that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook > sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as > tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points > could still be made sans pictures. > > I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I > was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where > the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think you > are not really talking about these types of briefs though. > > At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are > verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have > the entire range of visuals. > > The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a > productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving money > laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly > simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount of > money, and parties. > > I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof > charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. > making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, since > this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. > I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, so > all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure > more than clarify. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk > via BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hello all, > > I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, > but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded > images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into > cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely > pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could > be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has > anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of > increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on > it sooner rather than later. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 20:41:59 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 16:41:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not proposing anything at the moment, just "spitballing," as they say. I think the first step would be to get a handle on the problem--how it manifests itself, etc. And that would, I think, include finding out how Westlaw and lexis take PDFs from filed cases and input them onto their databases. Do they literally retype them from scratch? Rescan the PDFs? There are probably a lot of questions that would be helpful to know the answers to, but I'm not technologically savvy enough to know what's worth asking. On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > Laura: > > Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or > undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an > embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a > document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a > document on Westlaw. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via > BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:22 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hello all, > > I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've > recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images > (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and > briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they > are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an > accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has > anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of > increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it > sooner rather than later. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu May 2 20:44:38 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 16:44:38 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you provide the contact for the Jaws specialists at Westlaw? How much experience have you had with them? Do you find that they are responsive and knowledgeable about a broad range of accessibility issues or are they more likely to just know the answers to a finite set of questions? Thanks for this suggestion! On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Ah, I understand. I think when file conversions happen from whatever is the > word processor to final PDF or webpage, it could happen that the graphical > content is coded in a way that just turns it into numbers and letters from > JAWS' perspective. Westlaw, I agree, does not handle the tabular content > well, and there is a way to render it into HTML code that JAWS could handle. > I could let the Westlaw JAWS specialists know, but it helps if we have a > bunch of people writing to them about the issue. > > > It may be harder to deal with this in PDFs, because the table may end up > looking like an image for JAWS, even though that same document in Word would > have a table that JAWS could navigate. I suspect Adobe may have to visit its > conversion processes if we were to make any progress on this. > > I am at a loss about screen shots other than gently telling people that it > is not a productive format for the team because it is not a productive > format for me. After a few emails saying I cannot read this, please > describe, people do get the idea at my firm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Wolk [mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hi, > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not > the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the > fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded > image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in > Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you > were to read the following in a case: > > "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the > following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: > Image2618294827328492. > Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." > > You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported > damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of > whatever plaintiff submitted. > > Does that make more sense? > > On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years >> ago >> that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook >> sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as >> tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points >> could still be made sans pictures. >> >> I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I >> was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where >> the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think >> you >> are not really talking about these types of briefs though. >> >> At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are >> verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have >> the entire range of visuals. >> >> The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a >> productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving >> money >> laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly >> simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount >> of >> money, and parties. >> >> I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof >> charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. >> making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, >> since >> this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer >> friends. >> I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, >> so >> all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure >> more than clarify. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura >> Wolk >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, >> but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded >> images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into >> cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely >> pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could >> be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on >> it sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From agtolentino at gmail.com Thu May 2 20:45:13 2019 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 13:45:13 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AD13AF7-E8BF-44C0-B0C3-ACBA1AD33744@gmail.com> This is a really annoying trend in a world where everything is driven by social media conventions. I’m not saying it’s going to be a great solution, but using the image describer functionality in JAWS might be a workaround so long as the picture in question is not too garbled. Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. > On May 2, 2019, at 13:37, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > > Ah, I understand. I think when file conversions happen from whatever is the word processor to final PDF or webpage, it could happen that the graphical content is coded in a way that just turns it into numbers and letters from JAWS' perspective. Westlaw, I agree, does not handle the tabular content well, and there is a way to render it into HTML code that JAWS could handle. I could let the Westlaw JAWS specialists know, but it helps if we have a bunch of people writing to them about the issue. > > > It may be harder to deal with this in PDFs, because the table may end up looking like an image for JAWS, even though that same document in Word would have a table that JAWS could navigate. I suspect Adobe may have to visit its conversion processes if we were to make any progress on this. > > I am at a loss about screen shots other than gently telling people that it is not a productive format for the team because it is not a productive format for me. After a few emails saying I cannot read this, please describe, people do get the idea at my firm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Wolk [mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hi, > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not > the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the > fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded > image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in > Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you > were to read the following in a case: > > "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the > following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: > Image2618294827328492. > Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." > > You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported > damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of > whatever plaintiff submitted. > > Does that make more sense? > >> On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years ago >> that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook >> sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as >> tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points >> could still be made sans pictures. >> >> I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I >> was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where >> the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think you >> are not really talking about these types of briefs though. >> >> At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are >> verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have >> the entire range of visuals. >> >> The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a >> productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving money >> laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly >> simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount of >> money, and parties. >> >> I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof >> charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. >> making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, since >> this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer friends. >> I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, so >> all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure >> more than clarify. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, >> but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded >> images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into >> cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely >> pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could >> be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on >> it sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com From NSingh at cov.com Thu May 2 22:10:28 2019 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 22:10:28 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Answers below: Can you provide the contact for the Jaws specialists at Westlaw? Attached email. I have dealt most with Stephanie at present. How much experience have you had with them? Moderate amount. I call/email if I notice anything peculiar with access or JAWS' behavior. I have been in contact with them for the past 6 years or so, bringing questions and issues to their attention. The one item I am still hoping Westlaw can address is the successful copying of cites from Westlaw into a word processor document. I feel there must be a way to do this! Do you find that they are responsive and knowledgeable about a broad range of accessibility issues or are they more likely to just know the answers to a finite set of questions? They are very responsive and know the most about JAWS, how it operates, and what are the typical stumbling blocks for it. I understand that they have a laptop with JAWS installed to test out features, so any recommendations that they offer are grounded in reality. They seem to have more anecdotal knowledge about NVDA and Voice Over. As for other access technology or broader accessibility issues, I could not say because I have not had the occasion to ask about them. The one caveat is that these two contacts are Westlaw reference attorneys, meaning that they are not IT people. However, they do work closely with IT and can communicate and demonstrate what is the experience of a JAWS user on Westlaw to IT. Thanks for this suggestion! Here to serve. On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Ah, I understand. I think when file conversions happen from whatever is the > word processor to final PDF or webpage, it could happen that the graphical > content is coded in a way that just turns it into numbers and letters from > JAWS' perspective. Westlaw, I agree, does not handle the tabular content > well, and there is a way to render it into HTML code that JAWS could handle. > I could let the Westlaw JAWS specialists know, but it helps if we have a > bunch of people writing to them about the issue. > > > It may be harder to deal with this in PDFs, because the table may end up > looking like an image for JAWS, even though that same document in Word would > have a table that JAWS could navigate. I suspect Adobe may have to visit its > conversion processes if we were to make any progress on this. > > I am at a loss about screen shots other than gently telling people that it > is not a productive format for the team because it is not a productive > format for me. After a few emails saying I cannot read this, please > describe, people do get the idea at my firm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Wolk [mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hi, > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not > the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the > fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded > image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in > Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you > were to read the following in a case: > > "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the > following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: > Image2618294827328492. > Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." > > You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported > damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of > whatever plaintiff submitted. > > Does that make more sense? > > On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years >> ago >> that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook >> sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as >> tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points >> could still be made sans pictures. >> >> I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I >> was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where >> the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think >> you >> are not really talking about these types of briefs though. >> >> At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are >> verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have >> the entire range of visuals. >> >> The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a >> productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving >> money >> laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly >> simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount >> of >> money, and parties. >> >> I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof >> charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. >> making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, >> since >> this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer >> friends. >> I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, >> so >> all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure >> more than clarify. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura >> Wolk >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, >> but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded >> images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into >> cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely >> pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could >> be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on >> it sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" Subject: RE: Westlaw Edge Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:13:39 +0000 Size: 6295 URL: From laura.wolk at gmail.com Fri May 3 00:04:44 2019 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:04:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 In-Reply-To: <014801d500e5$cb1a8000$614f8000$@gmail.com> References: <014801d500e5$cb1a8000$614f8000$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for their kind messages! They really mean a great deal to me. Honestly I think just having a real live person in the room instead of talking over phone and email can make such a big difference. amar, I also really like your idea about trying to get either Microsoft or Vispero to document that 365 is the most usable with Jaws, especially in its advanced features. We had briefly talked about documentation in various respects, and I will raise it with them again. Laura On 5/2/19, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > Dear Laura, > Thank you for this great advocacy. Your time and attention to these issues > has helped not only lawyers, but other blind people using advanced word > features. > > > Denise R. Avant, Esq. > President, > National Federation of the Blind of Illinois > 773-991-8050 > Live the life you want. > > For more information about NFBI, > Go to www.nfbofillinois.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via > BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 3:12 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindlaw] Update on Track Changes in Microsoft 365 > > Dear all, > > I am very happy to report some extremely positive changes on the Track > Change front. I just met with members of Vispero and Microsoft for two > hours to review many of the changes that we have proposed. Almost all of > them are implemented in the latest version of Jaws that was just released > today. As I expected, these are only being implemented > in Microsoft Office 365. I highly encourage everyone who is > experiencing difficulties with track Changes to work with their employers > to > obtain Office 365 as a reasonable accommodation, and folks at the Microsoft > Enterprise answer Desk should be available to field any questions and to > verify that in fact Office 365 is the most fully functionable, accessible > version of Office with Jaws. Anyway, here are the changes I verified. > > 1. Jaws now displays the **correct!** number of revisions in a document in > a > mere matter of seconds. We tested this with a document with 406 revisions. > Jaws almost immediately announced the number, and I had to wait about four > seconds for the full list to load. Game changer. > 2. Jaws now announces the revisions in-line exactly where they occur, > instead of just stating "revision" or "insertion" at the beginning of the > line. Jaws also now announces font change attributes immediately following > the change. A few notes on this: > a. In the virtual viewer list, Jaws still just says "revised property." > But > they know how to fix this and aim to have it addressed in the June release. > But to reiterate, the precise font changes are announced in-line as you > scroll with Jaws using the arrow keys. > b. Currently, the font attribute change is also displayed in words on the > Braille display. This is cumbersome, especially in legal documents. They > are going to try to figure out a way to toggle whether that information is > displayed in Braille. Again to be clear, this only occurs when you're > looking at font attribute revisions, not every time you make a font change > when track changes aren't on. > 3. And now the moment we've all been waiting for... Footnotes are no longer > sluggish! **and** you can actually select text! Same goes for comment > bubbles! Notes. > a. This currently only works in all markup. It does not work in simple > markup. They are aware of this and know how to change it, and aim to have > it addressed in the June release. > b. To change mark up modes, hit alt, r, t, d, then arrow down to select the > mark up mode you desire. > 4. cursor routing buttons work in footnotes, dots 7-8 no longer display > throughout the entire footnote, and Braille marking properly works in > footnotes. > 5. You can now access revisions in the footnotes. You have to have all > markup selected, and you have to be in the footnote pane when you call up > the virtual viewer. They are working on a way to have them accessible from > above the line as well. > 6. Jaws announcing revisions even when track changes are off: > Currently, this is occurring because control+shift+e is a Microsoft > keystroke that tells the program to stop tracking changes, but even when > it's off, the underlying "code" is still there so that the revisions will > display again once you turn the feature back on. Jaws still has acces to > that code, even if you toggle track changes off, and sometimes this causes > confusion. If this happens, change markup to no markup by hitting alt, r, > t, d and arrowing down to no mark up. > That should solve it. > > The teams are also aware of the issue regarding pasting large amounts of > text into comments causing the programs to crash. They aim to address that > as well. > > Again, I am sorry that we will not be seeing changes in 2016 or 2013, but > this honestly is a quicker and more robust solution than I ever expected, > and i am very pleased. > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri May 3 01:32:03 2019 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:32:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not encountered this often, but I have seen it. I tend more to run into the problem that absolutely everything where I work is web generated, printed out, and re-scanned into the digital file. This plays havock with any tables or forms, such that it is often more efficient just to ask someone what is on the paper. Just in general, I am not sure how these approaches benefit anyone, even the sighted. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: > > I'm not proposing anything at the moment, just "spitballing," as they > say. I think the first step would be to get a handle on the > problem--how it manifests itself, etc. And that would, I think, > include finding out how Westlaw and lexis take PDFs from filed cases > and input them onto their databases. Do they literally retype them > from scratch? Rescan the PDFs? There are probably a lot of questions > that would be helpful to know the answers to, but I'm not > technologically savvy enough to know what's worth asking. > > > >> On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> Laura: >> >> Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or >> undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an >> embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a >> document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a >> document on Westlaw. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> http://driowa.org/ >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >> with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from >> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any >> printouts. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've >> recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images >> (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and >> briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they >> are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an >> accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it >> sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From shannonldillon at gmail.com Fri May 3 12:48:56 2019 From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon) Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 05:48:56 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven’t had a problem with this directly in case documents I’m working with. But I have seen it on Westlaw in regulations I work with regularly. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2019, at 6:32 PM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have not encountered this often, but I have seen it. I tend more to run into the problem that absolutely everything where I work is web generated, printed out, and re-scanned into the digital file. This plays havock with any tables or forms, such that it is often more efficient just to ask someone what is on the paper. Just in general, I am not sure how these approaches benefit anyone, even the sighted. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 2, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I'm not proposing anything at the moment, just "spitballing," as they >> say. I think the first step would be to get a handle on the >> problem--how it manifests itself, etc. And that would, I think, >> include finding out how Westlaw and lexis take PDFs from filed cases >> and input them onto their databases. Do they literally retype them >> from scratch? Rescan the PDFs? There are probably a lot of questions >> that would be helpful to know the answers to, but I'm not >> technologically savvy enough to know what's worth asking. >> >> >> >>> On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Laura: >>> >>> Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or >>> undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an >>> embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a >>> document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a >>> document on Westlaw. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> http://driowa.org/ >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >>> with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >>> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >>> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >>> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >>> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from >>> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >>> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >>> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any >>> printouts. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via >>> BlindLaw >>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:22 PM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Laura Wolk >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've >>> recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images >>> (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and >>> briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they >>> are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an >>> accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >>> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >>> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it >>> sooner rather than later. >>> >>> Laura >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail.com From shannonldillon at gmail.com Fri May 3 12:52:43 2019 From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon) Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 05:52:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EEB94A9-B630-4F5F-99A8-913622E39FED@gmail.com> Actually, to add to my previous email, a regulation we are currently working on will include screenshots of webpages that include all the elements that need to be filled out and submitted on web forms. I haven’t seen them yet, but it is my understanding that these documents will be given to us as screenshots of the web forms rather than as the actual web forms. Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2019, at 5:48 AM, Shannon Dillon wrote: > > I haven’t had a problem with this directly in case documents I’m working with. But I have seen it on Westlaw in regulations I work with regularly. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 2, 2019, at 6:32 PM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I have not encountered this often, but I have seen it. I tend more to run into the problem that absolutely everything where I work is web generated, printed out, and re-scanned into the digital file. This plays havock with any tables or forms, such that it is often more efficient just to ask someone what is on the paper. Just in general, I am not sure how these approaches benefit anyone, even the sighted. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 2, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I'm not proposing anything at the moment, just "spitballing," as they >>> say. I think the first step would be to get a handle on the >>> problem--how it manifests itself, etc. And that would, I think, >>> include finding out how Westlaw and lexis take PDFs from filed cases >>> and input them onto their databases. Do they literally retype them >>> from scratch? Rescan the PDFs? There are probably a lot of questions >>> that would be helpful to know the answers to, but I'm not >>> technologically savvy enough to know what's worth asking. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> Laura: >>>> >>>> Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or >>>> undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an >>>> embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a >>>> document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a >>>> document on Westlaw. >>>> >>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>>> Staff Attorney >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>>> Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>>> http://driowa.org/ >>>> >>>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >>>> with disabilities >>>> >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>>> >>>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >>>> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >>>> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >>>> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are >>>> prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from >>>> making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this >>>> e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any >>>> attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any >>>> printouts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via >>>> BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:22 PM >>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Laura Wolk >>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've >>>> recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images >>>> (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and >>>> briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely pictures; they >>>> are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an >>>> accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >>>> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >>>> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it >>>> sooner rather than later. >>>> >>>> Laura >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shannonldillon%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Fri May 3 23:15:12 2019 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 18:15:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Noel. Have you found inserting signature stamps or signature blocks accessible? What about filling out signer data fields manually? I ask because it is my understanding that there are several ways to sign a document using Adobe Sign. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 12:48 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Last year, I researched the issue of whether the Adobe signature-signing process is accessible . I found that Adobe itself acknowledged that the process is not accessible. I have to have someone help me with the parft of the process that requires using a mouse. Some of the process is accessible to me using JAWS but when it comes to the part that requires drawing a box for the signature, it is not accessible. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 10:11 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Colleagues, Have any of you had any luck e-signing documents using Adobe Sign with a screen reader? If so, could you please share any workarounds you used to interact with the signature panel? I have no trouble selecting recipients, typing my message, or uploading files for signature, but once I navigate to the next screen where signatures need to be added, I can navigate to, but not interact with, any of the signature fields with the latest version of JAWS or NVDA. I’ve been accessing Adobe Sign on-line through Chrome, not in Acrobat itself. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I am expected to e-sign contracts and send out to customers on a client’s behalf. The client doesn’t know I am blind, and if I don’t have to, I would prefer not to disclose this in case it would make the client feel apprehensive in any way, potentially jeopardizing the relationship. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Fri May 3 23:34:56 2019 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 23:34:56 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Message-ID: Hi all, This embedded image thing is becoming quite problematic. As an articling student I have already encountered PDF transcripts with an embedded audio file that I spent almost an hour researching how to open, and twice someone has emailed me a screenshot. The first time this happened I was confused. I am using outlook on a windows machine with Jaws, and there was nothing there, not even an image or anything. It just looked like the entire email was blank. Then I checked the email using my phone and found the image file, but it just read as an image file. I tried sharing this file to the drop box account, but couldn't for some reason. I had to share it through a different email account, and then I was able to put it in the drop box. From there I could use my computer to grab the file, and then convert it using kurzwell. The entire process took 90 minutes, but about an hour of that was figuring all of this out for the first time. Nonetheless, it brings up a relevant point that was being made awhile ago. This is not billable work, but it needs to be done. How do we ensure that a system is in place that doesn't require excessive effort on our part, and that is fair. What standards need to be developed and enforced, and how will all of this relate to intellectual property, and corporate freedom. Now that I've passed the bar, I have time to ponder these larger issues. All the best, Ben Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Answers below: Can you provide the contact for the Jaws specialists at Westlaw? Attached email. I have dealt most with Stephanie at present. How much experience have you had with them? Moderate amount. I call/email if I notice anything peculiar with access or JAWS' behavior. I have been in contact with them for the past 6 years or so, bringing questions and issues to their attention. The one item I am still hoping Westlaw can address is the successful copying of cites from Westlaw into a word processor document. I feel there must be a way to do this! Do you find that they are responsive and knowledgeable about a broad range of accessibility issues or are they more likely to just know the answers to a finite set of questions? They are very responsive and know the most about JAWS, how it operates, and what are the typical stumbling blocks for it. I understand that they have a laptop with JAWS installed to test out features, so any recommendations that they offer are grounded in reality. They seem to have more anecdotal knowledge about NVDA and Voice Over. As for other access technology or broader accessibility issues, I could not say because I have not had the occasion to ask about them. The one caveat is that these two contacts are Westlaw reference attorneys, meaning that they are not IT people. However, they do work closely with IT and can communicate and demonstrate what is the experience of a JAWS user on Westlaw to IT. Thanks for this suggestion! Here to serve. On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Ah, I understand. I think when file conversions happen from whatever is the > word processor to final PDF or webpage, it could happen that the graphical > content is coded in a way that just turns it into numbers and letters from > JAWS' perspective. Westlaw, I agree, does not handle the tabular content > well, and there is a way to render it into HTML code that JAWS could handle. > I could let the Westlaw JAWS specialists know, but it helps if we have a > bunch of people writing to them about the issue. > > > It may be harder to deal with this in PDFs, because the table may end up > looking like an image for JAWS, even though that same document in Word would > have a table that JAWS could navigate. I suspect Adobe may have to visit its > conversion processes if we were to make any progress on this. > > I am at a loss about screen shots other than gently telling people that it > is not a productive format for the team because it is not a productive > format for me. After a few emails saying I cannot read this, please > describe, people do get the idea at my firm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Wolk [mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings > > Hi, > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, exactly. It's not > the use of charts etc in the documents that's the problem. It's the > fact that, rather than having the actual chart, it is just an embedded > image. So Jaws just says "detected object" or, if you're reviewing in > Westlaw "Image+giant string of numbers." So, for instance, if you > were to read the following in a case: > > "Plaintiff alleges that the defendant's actions caused him the > following damages over the course of the relevant ten-year timeframe: > Image2618294827328492. > Plaintiff's calculations, however, are incorrect." > > You have no idea what the actual chart says, or what the purported > damages were, because it's just a screenshot or an embedded image of > whatever plaintiff submitted. > > Does that make more sense? > > On 5/2/19, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> To an extent, yes. I remember taking a legal writing course a few years >> ago >> that offered the multi-media approach to brief drafting. Our textbook >> sampled a brief that had pictures of a monument, with the brief acting as >> tour guide of the structure. That being said, the important legal points >> could still be made sans pictures. >> >> I did not encounter too many embedded graphics or images in briefs when I >> was clerking. The most notable case was a child pornography matter, where >> the purportedly offending photograph was part of the appendix. I think >> you >> are not really talking about these types of briefs though. >> >> At my firm, we have a fairly traditional approach. Motions and briefs are >> verbal. The main exception would be expert report submissions, which have >> the entire range of visuals. >> >> The only other time that a table or chart is used in what I think is a >> productive way occurs in indictments and sentencing reports involving >> money >> laundering or structuring criminal offenses. These graphics can be fairly >> simple to negotiate, as their main purpose is to illustrate date, amount >> of >> money, and parties. >> >> I will say, however, for internal work product, people love using proof >> charts and massive spreadsheets to create chronologies or summaries, i.e. >> making bulleted lists within a cell of a table. I find it a bit weird, >> since >> this gets visually very cluttered based on input from my non-lawyer >> friends. >> I am also of the opinion that law is meant to be a literary profession, >> so >> all these charts, with their color coding and flow diagrams, may obscure >> more than clarify. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura >> Wolk >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:22 PM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Laura Wolk >> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings >> >> Hello all, >> >> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, >> but I've recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded >> images (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into >> cases and briefs I have been reading. These aren't even always purely >> pictures; they are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could >> be rendered in an accessible fashion or easily described in-text. Has >> anyone else noticed this? I think this is going to be a problem of >> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on >> it sooner rather than later. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" Subject: RE: Westlaw Edge Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:13:39 +0000 Size: 6331 URL: From davant1958 at gmail.com Sat May 4 19:40:24 2019 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 14:40:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship In-Reply-To: <8B9EF79B-8013-4E6D-99E7-972C496F3E29@gmail.com> References: <8B9EF79B-8013-4E6D-99E7-972C496F3E29@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cf01d502b1$38b48800$aa1d9800$@gmail.com> Hello, Some college or law student might be interested in the below. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org From: Ruthe Ashley Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 10:38 AM To: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Fwd: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship Denise...can you send this to your list serves. We sent to our Law Pathway community colleges, but thought you may have others. Although the program is focused on college students to introduce them to law, it also needs practicing attorneys as mentors. Thanks so much. Warmly, Ruthe Sent from Ruthe’s IPad (916) 838-5457 Begin forwarded message: From: "Perez, Katherine" > Date: May 3, 2019 at 4:02:57 PM PDT To: Leslie Cunningham > Cc: "ruthe.ashleyesq at gmail.com " > Subject: RE: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship The Coelho Center Law Fellowship Program is launching this Summer 2019. Central to the mission of The Coelho Center for Disability Law, Policy and Innovation is bringing together and fostering the development of leaders from our disability community. In particular, we believe in creating a strong pipeline of law students with disabilities who will go on to serve as attorneys, judges, public policy professionals, and politicians. Our ultimate goal is to increase representation in policy spaces where decisions are being made. As the disability rights slogan goes, "Nothing About Us Without Us!" or more aptly "Nothing Without Us!" because people with disabilities belong in every sector of society, including the legal profession. We need disabled voices in law schools, in law firms, in the courts, on the bench, in the Congress, in legal academia and beyond! In order to do so, we need to strengthen the pathway into law school for students with disabilities. Too often, students with disabilities are discouraged from attaining higher education. Educational barriers, along with negative assumptions and attitudes, dissuade our community from reaching careers in law and policy. This has to change. Our program targets early-year college students with disabilities to intervene and provide encouragement, support and mentorship that is crucial to success. Currently, there is no program like The Coelho Center Law Fellowship Program whose specific mission is to train and mentor college students with disabilities to think about a path toward law school. Our program offers: * a one-week summer intensive course at Loyola Law School; * an academic-year-long virtual course; * a mentoring program between the fellows and law students and attorneys with disabilities; * academic planning and support through the law school application process; and, * a $1,000 stipend to be used for school supplies. Deadline to apply: Monday, May 27, 2019 at 11:59 pm PST Download your application here to apply: https://www.lls.edu/coelhocenter/lawfellowsprogram/ From: Leslie Cunningham > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 3:58 PM To: Perez, Katherine > Cc: ruthe.ashleyesq at gmail.com Subject: Re: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship Hello Katherine: It’s great to hear from you. I’m so proud of you and the work you’re doing with the disability demographic in the legal profession. Why don’t you give me a link or flyer I can forward to the LA-area Community Colleges? We can get the word out to the Pathway Network. Thanks Katherine! Leslie Sent from my iPhone 951-545-3004 On May 3, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Perez, Katherine > wrote: Dear Ruthe and Leslie, I’m kicking myself for not reaching out sooner. Our application for the Disability Law Fellowship has gone live as of last month, and our deadline is quickly approaching on Monday, May 27th. We haven’t gotten many applications as of now. I’m hoping that you are able to help us spread the word either by sharing this with your network or sharing some of your contacts with me, so that I may reach out to them. In particular, we’d like to get this information out to community colleges in the LA area. Though, all college students with disabilities are eligible to apply. All the information about the program as well as the application can be found here: https://www.lls.edu/coelhocenter/lawfellowsprogram/ It was such a pleasure to meet you earlier this year at the Pathways event at LLS / the reception! I’m still in awe and filled with so much appreciation for the work you do, and I hope that our program heads for the level of success. Sincerely, Katherine Katherine Perez Director, The Coelho Center for Disability Law, Policy and Innovation Visiting Professor of Law, Loyola Law School Pronouns: she, her, hers (213) 736-1486 Please follow us on Twitter and Facebook. From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon May 6 05:47:01 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 22:47:01 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship In-Reply-To: <00cf01d502b1$38b48800$aa1d9800$@gmail.com> References: <8B9EF79B-8013-4E6D-99E7-972C496F3E29@gmail.com> <00cf01d502b1$38b48800$aa1d9800$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04A254A1-61A0-4C28-833C-BB471A75BB58@gmail.com> Hi Denise, Thanks for posting this. Loyola Law School is the sister campus to my college, Loyola Marymount University. I have a summer internship at the Coelho Center that starts at the end of May. During or after my internship, I will be happy to answer anyone's questions about the structure of the center. Vejas > On 4 May 2019, at 12:40, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello, > > Some college or law student might be interested in the below. > > > > > > Denise R. Avant, Esq. > > President, > > National Federation of the Blind of Illinois > > 773-991-8050 > > Live the life you want. > > > > For more information about NFBI, > > Go to www.nfbofillinois.org > > > > From: Ruthe Ashley > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 10:38 AM > To: davant1958 at gmail.com > Subject: Fwd: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship > > > > Denise...can you send this to your list serves. We sent to our Law Pathway community colleges, but thought you may have others. Although the program is focused on college students to introduce them to law, it also needs practicing attorneys as mentors. > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > Warmly, > > Ruthe > > > > > > Sent from Ruthe’s IPad > > (916) 838-5457 > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Perez, Katherine" > > Date: May 3, 2019 at 4:02:57 PM PDT > To: Leslie Cunningham > > Cc: "ruthe.ashleyesq at gmail.com " > > Subject: RE: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship > > The Coelho Center Law Fellowship Program is launching this Summer 2019. Central to the mission of The Coelho Center for Disability Law, Policy and Innovation is bringing together and fostering the development of leaders from our disability community. In particular, we believe in creating a strong pipeline of law students with disabilities who will go on to serve as attorneys, judges, public policy professionals, and politicians. Our ultimate goal is to increase representation in policy spaces where decisions are being made. > > As the disability rights slogan goes, "Nothing About Us Without Us!" or more aptly "Nothing Without Us!" because people with disabilities belong in every sector of society, including the legal profession. We need disabled voices in law schools, in law firms, in the courts, on the bench, in the Congress, in legal academia and beyond! > > In order to do so, we need to strengthen the pathway into law school for students with disabilities. Too often, students with disabilities are discouraged from attaining higher education. Educational barriers, along with negative assumptions and attitudes, dissuade our community from reaching careers in law and policy. > > This has to change. Our program targets early-year college students with disabilities to intervene and provide encouragement, support and mentorship that is crucial to success. > > Currently, there is no program like The Coelho Center Law Fellowship Program whose specific mission is to train and mentor college students with disabilities to think about a path toward law school. > > Our program offers: > > * a one-week summer intensive course at Loyola Law School; > * an academic-year-long virtual course; > * a mentoring program between the fellows and law students and attorneys with disabilities; > * academic planning and support through the law school application process; and, > * a $1,000 stipend to be used for school supplies. > > Deadline to apply: Monday, May 27, 2019 at 11:59 pm PST > > Download your application here to apply: https://www.lls.edu/coelhocenter/lawfellowsprogram/ > > > > From: Leslie Cunningham > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 3:58 PM > To: Perez, Katherine > > Cc: ruthe.ashleyesq at gmail.com > Subject: Re: The Coelho Center Disability Law Fellowship > > > > Hello Katherine: > > > > It’s great to hear from you. I’m so proud of you and the work you’re doing with the disability demographic in the legal profession. Why don’t you give me a link or flyer I can forward to the LA-area Community Colleges? We can get the word out to the Pathway Network. > > > > Thanks Katherine! > > > > Leslie > > Sent from my iPhone > > 951-545-3004 > > > On May 3, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Perez, Katherine > wrote: > > Dear Ruthe and Leslie, > > > > I’m kicking myself for not reaching out sooner. Our application for the Disability Law Fellowship has gone live as of last month, and our deadline is quickly approaching on Monday, May 27th. > > > > We haven’t gotten many applications as of now. I’m hoping that you are able to help us spread the word either by sharing this with your network or sharing some of your contacts with me, so that I may reach out to them. In particular, we’d like to get this information out to community colleges in the LA area. Though, all college students with disabilities are eligible to apply. > > > > All the information about the program as well as the application can be found here: https://www.lls.edu/coelhocenter/lawfellowsprogram/ > > > > It was such a pleasure to meet you earlier this year at the Pathways event at LLS / the reception! I’m still in awe and filled with so much appreciation for the work you do, and I hope that our program heads for the level of success. > > > > Sincerely, > > Katherine > > > > Katherine Perez > > Director, The Coelho Center for Disability Law, Policy and Innovation > > Visiting Professor of Law, Loyola Law School > > Pronouns: she, her, hers > > (213) 736-1486 > > > > Please follow us on Twitter and Facebook. > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon May 6 17:14:26 2019 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 17:14:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The way my office signs documents digitally using Adobe does not allow me to paste in my digital signature. I have to go through the actual Adobe signing process, which requires drawing a box with a mouse and is not accessible. So, every time I need to sign a letter, I have to ask a sighted person to assist with the process. I would be delighted to hear if someone has figured out a way to make the process accessible. Perhaps there is a way to do it with a keyboard that I am not aware of. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 4:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Thank you, Noel. Have you found inserting signature stamps or signature blocks accessible? What about filling out signer data fields manually? I ask because it is my understanding that there are several ways to sign a document using Adobe Sign. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 12:48 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Last year, I researched the issue of whether the Adobe signature-signing process is accessible . I found that Adobe itself acknowledged that the process is not accessible. I have to have someone help me with the parft of the process that requires using a mouse. Some of the process is accessible to me using JAWS but when it comes to the part that requires drawing a box for the signature, it is not accessible. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 10:11 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Adobe Sign Accessibility Colleagues, Have any of you had any luck e-signing documents using Adobe Sign with a screen reader? If so, could you please share any workarounds you used to interact with the signature panel? I have no trouble selecting recipients, typing my message, or uploading files for signature, but once I navigate to the next screen where signatures need to be added, I can navigate to, but not interact with, any of the signature fields with the latest version of JAWS or NVDA. I’ve been accessing Adobe Sign on-line through Chrome, not in Acrobat itself. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I am expected to e-sign contracts and send out to customers on a client’s behalf. The client doesn’t know I am blind, and if I don’t have to, I would prefer not to disclose this in case it would make the client feel apprehensive in any way, potentially jeopardizing the relationship. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. 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The payments were part of a broader settlement from 2016 resolving the Department's complaint that Greyhound Lines Inc., the nation's largest provider of intercity bus transportation, engaged in a nationwide pattern or practice of violating the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by failing to provide full and equal transportation services to passengers with disabilities. The alleged violations included failing to maintain accessibility features on its bus fleet such as lifts and securement devices; failing to provide passengers with disabilities assistance boarding and exiting buses at rest stops; and failing to allow customers traveling in wheelchairs to complete their reservations online. "The Department of Justice is committed to eliminating disability-based discrimination in transportation services," said Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband of the Civil Rights Division. "This settlement ensures equal travel opportunities for those with disabilities through holistic reform." The $2,966,000 amount is in addition to $300,000 paid by Greyhound in 2016 to specific individuals identified by the Department, bringing the total distributed to individuals to over $3,000,000. This sum stands in addition to a $75,000 civil penalty paid by Greyhound to the United States. The settlement also mandated a series of systemic reforms, including that Greyhound hire an ADA compliance manager; provide annual in-person ADA training to employees and contractors who interact with the public; provide technical training to all employees and contractors on the proper operation of the accessibility features of Greyhound's fleet; and report every three months to the Department of Justice on its compliance efforts. To read the consent decree and complaint, please visit https://www.ada.gov/enforce_current.htm#grey. For more information about the ADA, call the Department's toll-free ADA Information Line at 800-514-0301 (TDD 800-514-0383) or access the ADA website at www.ada.gov. Topic(s): Civil Rights Component(s): Civil Rights Division, Civil Rights - Disability Rights Section Press Release Number: 19-463 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue May 7 15:43:06 2019 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 15:43:06 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Announcement - Job Opportunities with the City of Seattle- HR investigator & labor negotiator Message-ID: From: Hornbeck, Nicolette > Date: Mon, May 6, 2019 at 5:55 PM Subject: Announcement - Job Opportunities with the City of Seattle To: Hornbeck, Nicolette > Good Afternoon, I hope this finds you well. I wanted to let you know of two job opportunities with the City of Seattle’s Department of Human Resources in a legal related field. Can you please share these opportunities with your Bar Association’s members? 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Name: Legal Assistant - May 2019.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 365197 bytes Desc: Legal Assistant - May 2019.pdf URL: From shannonldillon at gmail.com Wed May 8 22:40:46 2019 From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:40:46 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Sharepoint Message-ID: Hi everyone, My agency is getting ready to start using SharePoint as our online library, to store documents, to collaborate on documents, to access documents remotely, etc. Does anyone have experience using SharePoint with JAWS and a Braille display? I don't use screen magnification; just JAWS and Braille display. I couldn't find any material in the JAWS help system concerning SharePoint. I will reach out to FS/VFO as well but thought I'd start here to see if anyone has experience using SharePoint. Thanks. Shannon -- SHANNON L. DILLON Secretary and Legislative Coordinator National Federation of the Blind of California The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. www.nfbcal.org From agtolentino at gmail.com Wed May 8 22:48:05 2019 From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:48:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Sharepoint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <687d27a6-45f3-74ce-e83b-e272e9a88de6@gmail.com> Hi Shannon, Here is Microsoft's support article on SharePoint accessibility. I haven't played with it enough to know if this actually works though: https://support.office.com/en-gb/article/accessibility-features-in-sharepoint-online-f291404a-dc7e-44de-a31f-d81b3099c2b99 HTH Aser On 5/8/2019 3:40 PM, Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi everyone, > My agency is getting ready to start using SharePoint as our online > library, to store documents, to collaborate on documents, to access > documents remotely, etc. Does anyone have experience using SharePoint > with JAWS and a Braille display? I don't use screen magnification; > just JAWS and Braille display. I couldn't find any material in the > JAWS help system concerning SharePoint. I will reach out to FS/VFO as > well but thought I'd start here to see if anyone has experience using > SharePoint. > Thanks. > Shannon > From blindstein at gmail.com Wed May 8 23:17:31 2019 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 16:17:31 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Sharepoint In-Reply-To: <687d27a6-45f3-74ce-e83b-e272e9a88de6@gmail.com> References: <687d27a6-45f3-74ce-e83b-e272e9a88de6@gmail.com> Message-ID: As I recall, there was a resolution a couple years ago about this. I think back then they said that newer versions of share point were accessible, but that the federal government was using an older version which was not accessible. It might depend on the version they are using. I recall that when I used to work for a nonprofit, we used SharePoint for a project, and I found it to be very unusable. Have a great day. Justin Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Shannon, > > > Here is Microsoft's support article on SharePoint accessibility. I haven't played with it enough to know if this actually works though: > > https://support.office.com/en-gb/article/accessibility-features-in-sharepoint-online-f291404a-dc7e-44de-a31f-d81b3099c2b99 > > > HTH > > Aser > > >> On 5/8/2019 3:40 PM, Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> My agency is getting ready to start using SharePoint as our online >> library, to store documents, to collaborate on documents, to access >> documents remotely, etc. Does anyone have experience using SharePoint >> with JAWS and a Braille display? I don't use screen magnification; >> just JAWS and Braille display. I couldn't find any material in the >> JAWS help system concerning SharePoint. I will reach out to FS/VFO as >> well but thought I'd start here to see if anyone has experience using >> SharePoint. >> Thanks. >> Shannon >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From NSingh at cov.com Wed May 8 23:49:05 2019 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 23:49:05 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Sharepoint In-Reply-To: References: <687d27a6-45f3-74ce-e83b-e272e9a88de6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <11db6a5b43014384b88661476874f2ac@CBIvEX03eUS.cov.com> I think it also depends on any sort of customizations that may be implemented on your agency/firm's Share Point. For many tasks, I cannot comfortably use our setup. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Harford via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:18 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Justin Harford Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Sharepoint As I recall, there was a resolution a couple years ago about this. I think back then they said that newer versions of share point were accessible, but that the federal government was using an older version which was not accessible. It might depend on the version they are using. I recall that when I used to work for a nonprofit, we used SharePoint for a project, and I found it to be very unusable. Have a great day. Justin Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Shannon, > > > Here is Microsoft's support article on SharePoint accessibility. I haven't played with it enough to know if this actually works though: > > https://support.office.com/en-gb/article/accessibility-features-in-sharepoint-online-f291404a-dc7e-44de-a31f-d81b3099c2b99 > > > HTH > > Aser > > >> On 5/8/2019 3:40 PM, Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> My agency is getting ready to start using SharePoint as our online >> library, to store documents, to collaborate on documents, to access >> documents remotely, etc. Does anyone have experience using SharePoint >> with JAWS and a Braille display? I don't use screen magnification; >> just JAWS and Braille display. I couldn't find any material in the >> JAWS help system concerning SharePoint. I will reach out to FS/VFO as >> well but thought I'd start here to see if anyone has experience using >> SharePoint. >> Thanks. >> Shannon >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From tmatzick06 at gmail.com Thu May 9 00:13:51 2019 From: tmatzick06 at gmail.com (Tara Chavez) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 18:13:51 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Sharepoint In-Reply-To: <11db6a5b43014384b88661476874f2ac@CBIvEX03eUS.cov.com> References: <687d27a6-45f3-74ce-e83b-e272e9a88de6@gmail.com> <11db6a5b43014384b88661476874f2ac@CBIvEX03eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: I work for the federal government and our agency use SharePoint and I absolutely hate it! And I believe we’re using 365 now but it’s still awful. Tara Chavez Consultant, Usborne Books and More https://v7941.myubam.com President, Albuquerque Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of New Mexico > On May 8, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > > I think it also depends on any sort of customizations that may be implemented on your agency/firm's Share Point. For many tasks, I cannot comfortably use our setup. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Harford via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:18 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Justin Harford > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Sharepoint > > As I recall, there was a resolution a couple years ago about this. I think back then they said that newer versions of share point were accessible, but that the federal government was using an older version which was not accessible. It might depend on the version they are using. I recall that when I used to work for a nonprofit, we used SharePoint for a project, and I found it to be very unusable. > > Have a great day. > > Justin > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 8, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hi Shannon, >> >> >> Here is Microsoft's support article on SharePoint accessibility. I haven't played with it enough to know if this actually works though: >> >> https://support.office.com/en-gb/article/accessibility-features-in-sharepoint-online-f291404a-dc7e-44de-a31f-d81b3099c2b99 >> >> >> HTH >> >> Aser >> >> >>> On 5/8/2019 3:40 PM, Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> My agency is getting ready to start using SharePoint as our online >>> library, to store documents, to collaborate on documents, to access >>> documents remotely, etc. Does anyone have experience using SharePoint >>> with JAWS and a Braille display? I don't use screen magnification; >>> just JAWS and Braille display. I couldn't find any material in the >>> JAWS help system concerning SharePoint. I will reach out to FS/VFO as >>> well but thought I'd start here to see if anyone has experience using >>> SharePoint. >>> Thanks. >>> Shannon >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tmatzick06%40gmail.com From shanew at outlook.com Thu May 9 21:04:53 2019 From: shanew at outlook.com (Shane Wegner) Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:04:53 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE Message-ID: Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron. I’ve never had to do an exam this way and i’m wondering whether i have to accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own. Thoughts? Shane Sent from my iPhone From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu May 9 21:20:49 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:20:49 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shane: I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point. I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shane Wegner via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:05 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Shane Wegner Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron. I’ve never had to do an exam this way and i’m wondering whether i have to accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own. Thoughts? Shane Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From richard.welch.gs at gmail.com Thu May 9 21:57:25 2019 From: richard.welch.gs at gmail.com (Richard Welch) Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:57:25 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: As I understand it, they are already doing this as a trial with full implementation within the next two years. IMHO If they want to argue the point it is kind of Moot. Best, RICHARD WELCH Best, Richard Welch ricwelch at gmail.com 781-367-4964 Please consider connecting on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/richard-welch-258310b ________________________________ From: BlindLaw on behalf of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:22 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE Shane: I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point. I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nijat1989 at gmail.com Fri May 10 17:01:30 2019 From: nijat1989 at gmail.com (Nijat Worley) Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 12:01:30 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shane, I requested electronic copy of the test on a computer with JAWS, and a scribe to fill out my answers on the scantron. I typed up my answers on the electronic exam as I went along so that I could go back and check my answers with the scribe. It worked fine for me. I think this is the most simple and accessible way to do it. They sent their own laptop with jaws and the exam already loaded on it in word format. It took a couple of minutes to get used to the keyboard layout on the laptop, and the JAWS settings were a little different than what I usually have on my personal computer, but everything worked out fine. Nijat On 5/10/19, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Accommodations for MPRE (Shane Wegner) > 2. Re: Accommodations for MPRE (Tai Tomasi) > 3. Re: Accommodations for MPRE (Richard Welch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:04:53 +0000 > From: Shane Wegner > To: "blindlaw at nfbnet.org" > Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the > mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested > jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would > provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron. > > I?ve never had to do an exam this way and i?m wondering whether i have to > accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe > marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam > myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own. > > Thoughts? > Shane > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:20:49 +0000 > From: Tai Tomasi > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Shane: > > I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have > always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling > reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to > prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred > accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point. > > I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected > answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The > proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected > answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all > the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not > request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it > does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar > exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will > set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use > similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests > are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you > provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shane Wegner via > BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:05 PM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Shane Wegner > Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE > > Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the > mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested > jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would > provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron. > > I?ve never had to do an exam this way and i?m wondering whether i have to > accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe > marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam > myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own. > > Thoughts? > Shane > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:57:25 +0000 > From: Richard Welch > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > As I understand it, they are already doing this as a trial with full > implementation within the next two years. IMHO If they want to argue the > point it is kind of Moot. > > Best, > > RICHARD WELCH > > Best, > > Richard Welch > ricwelch at gmail.com > 781-367-4964 > Please consider connecting on LinkedIn > linkedin.com/in/richard-welch-258310b > > ________________________________ > From: BlindLaw on behalf of Tai Tomasi via > BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:22 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE > > Shane: > > I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have > always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling > reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to > prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred > accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point. > > I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected > answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The > proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected > answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all > the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not > request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it > does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar > exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will > set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use > similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests > are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you > provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. 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If i am completing the exam > myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own. > > Thoughts? > Shane > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/richard.welch.gs%40gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 10 > ***************************************** > -- Nijat Worley 2L, Creighton University Law Twitter: @nijatworley Vehicle Donations Take the Blind Further Donate your car to the National Federation of the Blind today! For more information, please visit: www.carshelpingtheblind.org or call 1-855-659-931 From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri May 10 22:30:18 2019 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:30:18 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] =?windows-1252?q?Blog=3A_Lyft_Says_It=92s_=91Not_in_t?= =?windows-1252?q?he_Transportation_Business=2C=92_So_Disability_Law_Doesn?= =?windows-1252?q?=27t_Apply=2C_Gizmodo=2C_May_3_2019?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://gizmodo.com/lyft-says-it-s-not-in-the-transportation-business-so-1834514668?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery&/setsession Lyft Says It’s ‘Not in the Transportation Business,’ So Disability Law Doesn't Apply Gizmodo May 3 2019 By Patrick Howell O'Neill We’re in the season of multi-billion-dollar rideshare IPOs where the spotlight is on global and unprofitable transportation companies like Lyft and Uber as they try to get into the black. Let’s check in with how the process is unfolding. Excuse me, I’m sorry, my notes here say that actually, Lyft is not in the transportation business. Sure, the company moves you from place to place by various means, but those are just details, the San Francisco firm’s lawyers argued in court recently. In response to multiple discrimination lawsuits, Lyft argued that “it is not in the transportation business” and therefore should not be troubled by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Instead, Lyft argues, it is a technology company. Might it be that Lyft is actually a transportation technology company? Presumably, they would loudly scoff at the idea but Lyft didn’t respond to a request for comment. The comments, first reported by Politico, come from a lawsuit filed in 2017 by Harriett Lowell of White Plains, New York, who is suing the company for failing to serve people with disabilities both in her hometown and around the United States. For the sake of posterity, here’s the statement highlighted in a court filing by Lyft from March 30: [embedded file] Just for fun, let’s take a look at page 3 of the S-1 form Lyft recently filed with the SEC in the lead-up to the company’s $25 billion IPO: [embedded file] Oh! Okay. That sounds like a not-transportation company to me. Case closed. The distinction matters. A “transportation company” has strict obligations under the ADA. A mere app maker, Lyft argues, doesn’t have to worry about all the red tape that comes with providing accessible options for people who need them. In addition to the New York lawsuit, the company also faces another in California claiming it discriminates against disabled individuals. If it says “not a transportation company” enough times, does that make it true? From mnowicki4 at iCloud.com Sun May 12 20:02:28 2019 From: mnowicki4 at iCloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 15:02:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. Message-ID: Hello Listmates, I will be in D.C. the weekend of June 15 for a firm get-together. I know several of you practice in the D.C. area, so I would love to take advantage of this opportunity to meet up with as many of you as possible for dinner on either Thursday, June 13 or Friday, June 14. Please let me know if you are interested and, if so, which day works better for you. Please also suggest some good places to meet, as I am not familiar with the area. I look forward to hearing from you and to having a blast in D.C. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From marshall at blindlawyers.org Mon May 13 01:42:30 2019 From: marshall at blindlawyers.org (Scott Marshall) Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 01:42:30 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mitchell: It would be great to get together, whatever the size of the group. DC is quite a foodie town, and transportation options are good. If you would like to bounce around a few ideas, feel free to call me. Scott Marshall 301-960-7477 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 4:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. Hello Listmates, I will be in D.C. the weekend of June 15 for a firm get-together. I know several of you practice in the D.C. area, so I would love to take advantage of this opportunity to meet up with as many of you as possible for dinner on either Thursday, June 13 or Friday, June 14. Please let me know if you are interested and, if so, which day works better for you. Please also suggest some good places to meet, as I am not familiar with the area. I look forward to hearing from you and to having a blast in D.C. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marshall%40blindlawyers.org From mnowicki4 at iCloud.com Mon May 13 14:29:48 2019 From: mnowicki4 at iCloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 09:29:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Scott, Thank you for responding to my post and for the info about D.C. I will give others a few days to respond, and then I will be in touch with more details. I’m glad to hear that you are interested in joining the group and look forward to meeting you. Best, Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Scott Marshall via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:44 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Scott Marshall Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. Hi Mitchell: It would be great to get together, whatever the size of the group. DC is quite a foodie town, and transportation options are good. If you would like to bounce around a few ideas, feel free to call me. Scott Marshall 301-960-7477 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 4:02 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: [blindlaw] Visiting D.C. Hello Listmates, I will be in D.C. the weekend of June 15 for a firm get-together. I know several of you practice in the D.C. area, so I would love to take advantage of this opportunity to meet up with as many of you as possible for dinner on either Thursday, June 13 or Friday, June 14. Please let me know if you are interested and, if so, which day works better for you. Please also suggest some good places to meet, as I am not familiar with the area. I look forward to hearing from you and to having a blast in D.C. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marshall%40blindlawyers.org _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com Wed May 15 16:28:39 2019 From: carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com (Kathryn Carroll) Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:28:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] codification of website accessibility in State law Message-ID: Good afternoon, I am writing to see if anyone in this group has thoughts regarding the adoption of website accessibility standards into state law.There has been discussion of proposing a bill to accomplish this in New York State for places of public accommodation. I know a couple state have passed laws codifying Section 508 and the WCAG accessibility standards for government entities. I am also aware of the happy failure of legislation in Virginia that would have addressed some public accommodations but included an offensive notice and cure provision. I am advocating that any legislation in New York not even consider notice and cure. I would like to hear from this group on 1. if you think adoption of Section 508 and WCAG are good enough (assuming the law accounts for updates in the standards), and 2. if not, what should website accessibility laws include? Sincerely, Kathryn Carroll, Esq. From shannonldillon at gmail.com Thu May 16 15:48:12 2019 From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon) Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:48:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Track changes Fwd: Case 00458201 - Word Scripts References: Message-ID: <4B25B6A1-9252-4E9F-ACCD-D2B07CBB6C8D@gmail.com> I was having the issue wee have been discussing with track changes with jaws in windows 10 and office 2016. I called freedom scientific about it before seeing Laura‘s message addressing the issue regarding updating jaws if you have ms office 2016. Freedom scientific of course ran me through the usual tests before escalating it. By the time I talked to the escalation support person, I had seen laura’s email, but couldn’t find it again to get the specific information I needed. So I asked the escalation supor person specifically if they didn’t have a fix because Ithought I had heard that there was a fix for my situation. He said repeatedly no, they only could recommend me upgrading to office 365. Then, I found the emailfrom Laura and emailed Laura to get the Scripps. I looked at the directions in the email. They seem to apply to my situation so I asked freedom scientific about them. And I asked why I hadn’t been told that this was a possibility even though it was a known issue that directly related to my situation. Below is the email they sent in response. I’m really disappointed about this. They should have shared the information with me and let me know it was an option. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dillon, Shannon at DMHC" > Date: May 16, 2019 at 8:30:46 AM PDT > To: "'shannonldillon at gmail.com'" > Subject: Fwd: Case 00458201 - Word Scripts > > > > Get Outlook for iOS > From: Jose Tamayo > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:40:58 AM > To: Dillon, Shannon at DMHC > Subject: Case 00458201 - Word Scripts > > Dear Valued Customer: > > Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support. > > I received your note from our support email desk. Our suggestion is that you try the scripts provided by Matt in the email you sent us. While we do not support those scripts directly, you may attempt to use them and let us know if they work for you. If they do not, please also let us know as we do still recommend office 365. > > If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us. > > If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you. > > Regards, > > Jose Tamayo > Vispero™ | Technical Support Specialist > 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764 > T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001 > support at vispero.com > http://www.vispero.com > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of Vispero™. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return email, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. > > How am I doing? Let > Bryan Carver, Director of Technical Support know! > > > From kenia.flores101 at gmail.com Fri May 17 02:28:23 2019 From: kenia.flores101 at gmail.com (Kenia Flores) Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 22:28:23 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Kaplan LSAT prep course Message-ID: Good evening all, I hope this message finds you all well. I am an undergraduate student beginning to prepare for the LSAT. My university just awarded me a scholarship specifically for the purpose of taking a Kaplan LSAT prep course. Have any of you taken a course with Kaplan either in-person or online? If so, I would love to hear about your experiences (the good and possibly the bad). Did you encounter any barriers requesting accommodations? Did you have positive experiences with the instructor(s)? Thank you in advance for any insight you are able to offer. Best, Kenia Flores Kenia Flores Furman University ‘20 Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students (704) 476-6629 Kenia.flores at furman.edu From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri May 17 12:35:20 2019 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. 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Trial Attorney HCFAC 05/16/2019 02:47 PM EDT Civil Rights Division (CRT) Disability Rights and Special Litigation Sections Washington, District of Columbia Announcement #: 19-ATT-006 Application Deadline: May 31, 2019 DRS and SPL are each seeking one or more experienced attorneys for these positions. The attorneys selected will be dedicated to the selecting Section's work pursuant to the Health Care Fraud and Abuse Control ("HCFAC") Program, with an emphasis on the Section's matters that seek to enforce compliance with the ADA's integration mandate by preventing unnecessary segregation of persons with disabilities in institutions such as mental health facilities, nursing facilities, and other congregate settings. Applicants who wish to be considered by only one of the Sections should identify that Section in the applicant's cover letter. The incumbent will be responsible for duties such as, but not limited to: (1) personally handling sensitive and/or complex investigations, litigation, and negotiations; (2) contributing to the development of strategies and priorities for HCFAC and Olmstead enforcement; (3) coordinating with other federal agencies to develop strategies for effective and efficient information sharing and case referrals; and (4) conducting outreach. The incumbent will be responsible for screening and developing new matters, conducting comprehensive investigations involving in-person visits, interviewing witnesses, working with experts, analyzing data, drafting written recommendations including legal analyses, litigating Olmstead claims and negotiating, monitoring, and enforcing settlement agreements. Litigation associated with these investigations is typically complex, involving extensive discovery, pretrial motions practice, preliminary injunction hearings, trials, and post judgment enforcement. 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Manage your Subscriptions | Department of Justice Privacy Policy | GovDelivery Privacy Policy From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri May 17 18:18:00 2019 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 18:18:00 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] U.S. Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Update Message-ID: From: U.S. Department of Justice > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 12:16 PM Subject: [Suspect Bulk Mail] U.S. Department of Justice Attorney Vacancies Update [U.S. Department of Justice] You are subscribed to Attorney Vacancies for U.S. Department of Justice. This information has recently been updated, and is now available. Trial Attorney 05/16/2019 02:01 PM EDT Civil Rights Division (CRT) Disability Rights Section Washington, District of Columbia Announcement #: 19-ATT-004 Application Deadline: May 31, 2019 DRS is seeking one or more experienced attorneys for this position. The experienced attorneys selected for these positions will be primarily responsible for investigating alleged violations of the ADA, negotiating settlements, and, when necessary, litigating claims under the ADA. Trial Attorneys are responsible for screening and developing new matters, conducting investigations, litigating complex cases, and monitoring compliance in connection with DRS's enforcement activities. These duties include, but are not limited to: Developing investigations; interviewing witnesses; analyzing data and evidence; negotiating; litigating; monitoring settlement agreements and consent decrees; and conducting outreach, training, and technical assistance, as needed. Trial Attorney 05/16/2019 01:43 PM EDT Civil Rights Division (CRT) Special Litigation Section Washington, District of Columbia Announcement #: 19-ATT-003 Application Deadline: May 31, 2019 Are you interested in a rewarding and challenging opportunity? Join the U.S. Department of Justice! SPL is seeking experienced attorneys for the position of Trial Attorney. The attorneys selected for these positions will be dedicated to the Section's work in either its Corrections Practice Group (CGP) or its Police Practice Group (PPG). Duties The incumbent will be responsible for duties such as, but not limited to: (1) personally handling and leading team members on sensitive and/or complex investigations, litigation, and negotiations; (2) working with the Section Chief and management team to develop and establish strategies and priorities for corrections or police misconduct enforcement; (3) working with U.S. Attorney's Offices and other federal agencies to implement strategies for effective and efficient information sharing and case development; and (4) conducting outreach. The incumbent will be responsible for screening and developing new matters; conducting comprehensive investigations involving in-person visits, witness interviews, and work with experts; analyzing data; drafting written recommendations including legal analyses; litigating all aspects of the Section's enforcement duties; and negotiating, monitoring, and enforcing settlement agreements. Litigation associated with these investigations is typically complex, involving extensive discovery, pretrial motions practice, preliminary injunction hearings, trials, and post judgment enforcement and contempt proceedings. Our CGP ensures compliance with the Constitution, pursuant to the Department of Justice's authority under 42 U.S.C. § 1997 (the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act). More specifically, most of the incumbent's work will be devoted to investigating, negotiating, litigating, and enforcing matters involving conditions and practices in jails and prisons. 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GovDelivery is providing this service on behalf of the Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW · Washington, DC 20530 · 202-514-2000 and may not use your subscription information for any other purposes. Manage your Subscriptions | Department of Justice Privacy Policy | GovDelivery Privacy Policy From shah.maitreya32 at gmail.com Mon May 20 12:19:47 2019 From: shah.maitreya32 at gmail.com (Maitreya Shah) Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 17:49:47 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) Message-ID: Dear all, Has anyone here taken the GRE general test before? I'm planning to take it soon. I need to know what kind of accommodations do they provide, as the information provided on the ETS website is a bit vague. Please let me know if anyone has taken it before, and can help me out. TIA, Maitreya. -- Maitreya Shah (he/ him) Fourth Year-B.A. LL.B (Hons.) Gujarat National Law University +91 8690943237 +91 8320964462 From jtfetter at yahoo.com Mon May 20 13:31:31 2019 From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James T. Fetter) Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:31:31 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c7d8a85-cce6-d629-1c3a-e62eea5ac50e@yahoo.com> Yes, but it was about 13 years ago. I think everything is different now. At that time, the only options were Braille and a human reader. I didn't have any problem getting accommodations. I did, however, enter a Kafkaesque nightmare, when I attempted to retake the test to obtain a higher score. First, they attempted to have me retake the exact same version of the test I previously took. Somehow, this struck me as highly unethical. Then, they ran the wrong form number, causing me to get the score I would have received for signing my name. By the time the matter was resolved, several graduate programs had made admissions decisions. Thankfully, one of the programs I actually liked still was able to take my accurate score into account. And the rest, as they say, is history. Do they still recommend that blind applicants attempt to waive the GRE requirement? Because that's a great idea--that is, if your goal is to be denied admission. On 5/20/2019 8:19 AM, Maitreya Shah via BlindLaw wrote: > Dear all, > > Has anyone here taken the GRE general test before? I'm planning to take it soon. > > I need to know what kind of accommodations do they provide, as the > information provided on the ETS website is a bit vague. > > Please let me know if anyone has taken it before, and can help me out. > > TIA, > Maitreya. > From ttomasi at driowa.org Mon May 20 13:36:07 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 13:36:07 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) In-Reply-To: <5c7d8a85-cce6-d629-1c3a-e62eea5ac50e@yahoo.com> References: <5c7d8a85-cce6-d629-1c3a-e62eea5ac50e@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I recommend posting this question to the email list for the National Association of Blind Studeutns. I believe you can subscribe to that list by sending a message to nabs-l-subscribe at nfbnet.org and you can find information about the list on the NFBNet page listing all NFB email lists. Tai Tomasi, J.D. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of James T. Fetter via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:32 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: James T. Fetter Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) Yes, but it was about 13 years ago. I think everything is different now. At that time, the only options were Braille and a human reader. I didn't have any problem getting accommodations. I did, however, enter a Kafkaesque nightmare, when I attempted to retake the test to obtain a higher score. First, they attempted to have me retake the exact same version of the test I previously took. Somehow, this struck me as highly unethical. Then, they ran the wrong form number, causing me to get the score I would have received for signing my name. By the time the matter was resolved, several graduate programs had made admissions decisions. Thankfully, one of the programs I actually liked still was able to take my accurate score into account. And the rest, as they say, is history. Do they still recommend that blind applicants attempt to waive the GRE requirement? Because that's a great idea--that is, if your goal is to be denied admission. On 5/20/2019 8:19 AM, Maitreya Shah via BlindLaw wrote: > Dear all, > > Has anyone here taken the GRE general test before? I'm planning to take it soon. > > I need to know what kind of accommodations do they provide, as the > information provided on the ETS website is a bit vague. > > Please let me know if anyone has taken it before, and can help me out. > > TIA, > Maitreya. > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From nijat1989 at gmail.com Tue May 21 14:39:20 2019 From: nijat1989 at gmail.com (Nijat Worley) Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 09:39:20 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS Message-ID: Greetings all, I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for tests. Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it does not block JAWS. But I don’t understand why I need to use the software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! Thanks, -- Nijat Worley J.D. Twitter: @nijatworley From ttomasi at driowa.org Tue May 21 15:58:25 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 15:58:25 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nijat: I took the Iowa bar exam in 2015 and was not asked to use this software. I am not familiar with it. Please contact me off list if I can be of assistance. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nijat Worley via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:39 AM To: blindlaw Cc: Nijat Worley Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS Greetings all, I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for tests. Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it does not block JAWS. But I don’t understand why I need to use the software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! Thanks, -- Nijat Worley J.D. Twitter: @nijatworley _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From kostiantyn.moskalenko at gmail.com Wed May 22 06:38:34 2019 From: kostiantyn.moskalenko at gmail.com (Kostiantyn Moskalenko) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:38:34 +0300 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyers Message-ID: Hello! Can you give me the contacts of blind lawyers or lawyers who deal with the problems of the blind? Kostiantyn Moskalenko From philosopher25 at gmail.com Wed May 22 11:12:28 2019 From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (philosopher25 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:12:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <273A80DE-127C-4066-90A0-9BE0117D8F12@gmail.com> They do it to have an easy way of submitting your essay. BruceSexton, JD Dictated on an accessible device. > On May 21, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Nijat Worley via BlindLaw wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the > accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they > would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software > installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for > tests. > Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible > with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it > does not block JAWS. But I don’t understand why I need to use the > software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. > Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Nijat Worley > J.D. > > Twitter: @nijatworley > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com From philosopher25 at gmail.com Wed May 22 11:17:27 2019 From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (philosopher25 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:17:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Kaplan LSAT prep course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10508954-5B3E-4F71-901C-59B05E953AF6@gmail.com> I highly recommend Power Score over Kaplan. Email me privately, I can give you my phone number and talk more about it more efficiently than typing it. BruceSexton, JD Dictated on an accessible device. > On May 16, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Kenia Flores via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good evening all, > > I hope this message finds you all well. > I am an undergraduate student beginning to prepare for the LSAT. My > university just awarded me a scholarship specifically for the purpose > of taking a Kaplan LSAT prep course. Have any of you taken a course > with Kaplan either in-person or online? If so, I would love to hear > about your experiences (the good and possibly the bad). Did you > encounter any barriers requesting accommodations? Did you have > positive experiences with the instructor(s)? Thank you in advance for > any insight you are able to offer. > > Best, > Kenia Flores > > Kenia Flores > Furman University ‘20 > Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students > (704) 476-6629 > Kenia.flores at furman.edu > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com Wed May 22 12:39:42 2019 From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody Davis) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 08:39:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What is your location? Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 2:38 AM, Kostiantyn Moskalenko via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello! Can you give me the contacts of blind lawyers or lawyers who deal > with the problems of the blind? > > Kostiantyn Moskalenko > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com From shah.maitreya32 at gmail.com Fri May 24 08:33:57 2019 From: shah.maitreya32 at gmail.com (Maitreya Shah) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:03:57 +0530 Subject: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) In-Reply-To: References: <5c7d8a85-cce6-d629-1c3a-e62eea5ac50e@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks a ton James and Tai, At James: I'll look into the things you've said, to ensure I don't face the same. At Tai: sure, I'll join the list and drop an email there. Thanks! On 5/20/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I recommend posting this question to the email list for the National > Association of Blind Studeutns. I believe you can subscribe to that list by > sending a message to nabs-l-subscribe at nfbnet.org and you can find > information about the list on the NFBNet page listing all NFB email lists. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of James T. Fetter > via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:32 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: James T. Fetter > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Queries about Accommodations in the Graduate Record > Examination (GRE) > > Yes, but it was about 13 years ago. I think everything is different now. > At that time, the only options were Braille and a human reader. I didn't > have any problem getting accommodations. I did, however, enter a Kafkaesque > nightmare, when I attempted to retake the test to obtain a higher score. > First, they attempted to have me retake the exact same version of the test I > previously took. Somehow, this struck me as highly unethical. Then, they ran > the wrong form number, causing me to get the score I would have received for > signing my name. By the time the matter was resolved, several graduate > programs had made admissions decisions. > Thankfully, one of the programs I actually liked still was able to take my > accurate score into account. And the rest, as they say, is history. > > Do they still recommend that blind applicants attempt to waive the GRE > requirement? Because that's a great idea--that is, if your goal is to be > denied admission. > > On 5/20/2019 8:19 AM, Maitreya Shah via BlindLaw wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Has anyone here taken the GRE general test before? I'm planning to take it >> soon. >> >> I need to know what kind of accommodations do they provide, as the >> information provided on the ETS website is a bit vague. >> >> Please let me know if anyone has taken it before, and can help me out. >> >> TIA, >> Maitreya. >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/shah.maitreya32%40gmail.com > -- Maitreya Shah (he/ him) Fourth Year-B.A. LL.B (Hons.) 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From awildheir at gmail.com Fri May 24 15:36:30 2019 From: awildheir at gmail.com (Aimee Harwood) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:36:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts In-Reply-To: <8a02fc74-62ef-4f74-a8ff-6b22159c9fa1@yahoo.com> References: <5c38dead.1c69fb81.e4f0e.2ce6@mx.google.com> <8a02fc74-62ef-4f74-a8ff-6b22159c9fa1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46FA7FFD-F4FA-4591-B3D8-942413EEFF20@gmail.com> James, I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in the next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was considering a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a braille display on my lap. Any thoughts? Best regards, Aimee Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: > > I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, the Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire machine. I have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more sense than trying to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would have to learn to use it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. > > >> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, in addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface Pro can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a laptop for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, desktop computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing all of these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille notetaker and provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my opinion. >> >> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Staff Attorney >> >> >> >> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >> www.driowa.org >> >> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >> >> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They have excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a BrailleNote Touch user. I don't think that this product will become obselete. >> >> Roanna Bacchus >> >>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw" wrote: >>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS Polaris >>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>> >>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Olusegun >>> Denver, Colorado >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>> ail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com From jtfetter at yahoo.com Fri May 24 15:46:20 2019 From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James T. Fetter) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:46:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts In-Reply-To: <46FA7FFD-F4FA-4591-B3D8-942413EEFF20@gmail.com> References: <5c38dead.1c69fb81.e4f0e.2ce6@mx.google.com> <8a02fc74-62ef-4f74-a8ff-6b22159c9fa1@yahoo.com> <46FA7FFD-F4FA-4591-B3D8-942413EEFF20@gmail.com> Message-ID: The ElBraille has a ton of new commands to learn. I wish there has been a model with a QUERTY keyboard. I probably just need to bite the bullet and learn the commands I would use most often. Unfortunately, that's hard to do when in the midst of litigation. I think your idea makes a good deal of sense. But I don't see a problem with getting an ElBraille, if you have both the time and desire to get up to speed on the various commands. I honestly don't know much about its performance, but it's definitely not as fast as a normal PC or presumably a Surface. On 5/24/2019 11:36 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: > James, > > I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in the next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was considering a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a braille display on my lap. Any thoughts? > > Best regards, > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, the Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire machine. I have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more sense than trying to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would have to learn to use it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. >> >> >>> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, in addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface Pro can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a laptop for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, desktop computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing all of these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille notetaker and provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my opinion. >>> >>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> www.driowa.org >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >>> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >>> >>> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They have excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a BrailleNote Touch user. I don't think that this product will become obselete. >>> >>> Roanna Bacchus >>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw" wrote: >>>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS Polaris >>>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>>> >>>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Olusegun >>>> Denver, Colorado >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>>> ail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri May 24 20:40:01 2019 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:40:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts In-Reply-To: References: <5c38dead.1c69fb81.e4f0e.2ce6@mx.google.com> <8a02fc74-62ef-4f74-a8ff-6b22159c9fa1@yahoo.com> <46FA7FFD-F4FA-4591-B3D8-942413EEFF20@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34E5F128-2D6C-4414-9365-AB569E2D890B@gmail.com> Since this thread has re-opened, a couple of questions: 1) Does anyone know how to keep the Touch from disconnecting from the iPhone? If I use the Touch as a terminal, it works the first time; but if I exit the terminal mode, and then enter it again, the phone will not reconnect. I have to go into the phone itself and remove the device and then re-pair it. 2) For anyone who has used it, does it interface well as a Braille display with Windows? I have not generally used a Braille display with a a PC but am beginning to think it might be the right way to go in certain parts of my job. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 11:46 AM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: > > The ElBraille has a ton of new commands to learn. I wish there has been a model with a QUERTY keyboard. I probably just need to bite the bullet and learn the commands I would use most often. Unfortunately, that's hard to do when in the midst of litigation. I think your idea makes a good deal of sense. But I don't see a problem with getting an ElBraille, if you have both the time and desire to get up to speed on the various commands. I honestly don't know much about its performance, but it's definitely not as fast as a normal PC or presumably a Surface. > > >> On 5/24/2019 11:36 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: >> James, >> >> I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in the next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was considering a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a braille display on my lap. Any thoughts? >> >> Best regards, >> Aimee >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, the Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire machine. I have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more sense than trying to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would have to learn to use it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. >>> >>> >>>> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, in addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface Pro can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a laptop for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, desktop computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing all of these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille notetaker and provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my opinion. >>>> >>>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>>> Staff Attorney >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>>> www.driowa.org >>>> >>>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities >>>> >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>>> >>>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >>>> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >>>> >>>> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They have excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a BrailleNote Touch user. I don't think that this product will become obselete. >>>> >>>> Roanna Bacchus >>>> >>>>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw" wrote: >>>>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>>>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS Polaris >>>>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>>>> >>>>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Olusegun >>>>> Denver, Colorado >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Fri May 24 20:42:19 2019 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (kelby carlson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:42:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS In-Reply-To: <273A80DE-127C-4066-90A0-9BE0117D8F12@gmail.com> References: <273A80DE-127C-4066-90A0-9BE0117D8F12@gmail.com> Message-ID: <30B104F6-E50D-482B-83B1-C2D506AF1208@gmail.com> I did not use this for my bar exam; I had a proctor and used regular Word documents on an encrypted drive that was provided to me. I would ask if that is a possibility or if there is a way to test the software first—you do not want to run into problems on exam day. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 7:12 AM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: > > They do it to have an easy way of submitting your essay. > > BruceSexton, JD > > Dictated on an accessible device. > >> On May 21, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Nijat Worley via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Greetings all, >> >> I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the >> accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they >> would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software >> installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for >> tests. >> Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible >> with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it >> does not block JAWS. But I don’t understand why I need to use the >> software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. >> Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nijat Worley >> J.D. >> >> Twitter: @nijatworley >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From nijat1989 at gmail.com Sat May 25 15:50:28 2019 From: nijat1989 at gmail.com (Nijat Worley) Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 10:50:28 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kelby, I think I am just going to ask them to let me take the test on word, and then they can do whatever they need to do with it. The person in charge of the accommodations request told me that he would be willing to let me write my answers in word, and then he would get it to them in whatever format they need it. Thanks for the suggestions. Nijat On 5/25/19, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. > Department of Justice (Scott C. LaBarre) > 2. Re: BrailleNote Touch Thoughts (Aimee Harwood) > 3. Re: BrailleNote Touch Thoughts (James T. Fetter) > 4. 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> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.png > Type: image/png > Size: 88 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:36:30 -0400 > From: Aimee Harwood > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts > Message-ID: <46FA7FFD-F4FA-4591-B3D8-942413EEFF20 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > James, > > I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in the > next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was considering > a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a braille display > on my lap. Any thoughts? > > Best regards, > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows >> machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, the >> Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire machine. I >> have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more sense than trying >> to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would have to learn to use >> it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. >> >> >>> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in >>> today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind >>> the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to >>> the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer >>> functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run >>> operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that >>> functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps >>> either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were >>> recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and >>> attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for >>> the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, in >>> addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface Pro >>> can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a laptop >>> for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, desktop >>> computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing all of >>> these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille notetaker and >>> provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my opinion. >>> >>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Staff Attorney >>> >>> >>> >>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>> www.driowa.org >>> >>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >>> with disabilities >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >>> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >>> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an >>> intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you >>> are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments >>> or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received >>> this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the >>> e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media >>> and destroy any printouts. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus >>> via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >>> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >>> >>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >>> >>> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing >>> the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They have >>> excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a BrailleNote >>> Touch user. I don't think that this product will become obselete. >>> >>> Roanna Bacchus >>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via >>>> BlindLaw" wrote: >>>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS Polaris >>>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>>> >>>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Olusegun >>>> Denver, Colorado >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>>> ail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:46:20 -0400 > From: "James T. Fetter" > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > The ElBraille has a ton of new commands to learn. I wish there has been > a model with a QUERTY keyboard. I probably just need to bite the bullet > and learn the commands I would use most often. Unfortunately, that's > hard to do when in the midst of litigation. I think your idea makes a > good deal of sense. But I don't see a problem with getting an ElBraille, > if you have both the time and desire to get up to speed on the various > commands. I honestly don't know much about its performance, but it's > definitely not as fast as a normal PC or presumably a Surface. > > > On 5/24/2019 11:36 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: >> James, >> >> I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in the >> next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was >> considering a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a >> braille display on my lap. Any thoughts? >> >> Best regards, >> Aimee >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows >>> machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, the >>> Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire machine. >>> I have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more sense than >>> trying to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would have to >>> learn to use it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. >>> >>> >>>> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in >>>> today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind >>>> the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to >>>> the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer >>>> functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run >>>> operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that >>>> functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps >>>> either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were >>>> recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and >>>> attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for >>>> the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, in >>>> addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface Pro >>>> can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a >>>> laptop for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, >>>> desktop computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing >>>> all of these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille notetaker >>>> and provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my opinion. >>>> >>>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>>> Staff Attorney >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>>> www.driowa.org >>>> >>>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans >>>> with disabilities >>>> >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>>> >>>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of >>>> Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named >>>> recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >>>> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >>>> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >>>> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you >>>> have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and >>>> delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or >>>> storage media and destroy any printouts. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus >>>> via BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >>>> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >>>> >>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >>>> >>>> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing >>>> the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They >>>> have excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a >>>> BrailleNote Touch user. I don't think that this product will become >>>> obselete. >>>> >>>> Roanna Bacchus >>>> >>>>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via >>>>> BlindLaw" wrote: >>>>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>>>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS Polaris >>>>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>>>> >>>>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Olusegun >>>>> Denver, Colorado >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:40:01 -0400 > From: kelby carlson > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts > Message-ID: <34E5F128-2D6C-4414-9365-AB569E2D890B at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Since this thread has re-opened, a couple of questions: > > 1) Does anyone know how to keep the Touch from disconnecting from the > iPhone? If I use the Touch as a terminal, it works the first time; but if I > exit the terminal mode, and then enter it again, the phone will not > reconnect. I have to go into the phone itself and remove the device and then > re-pair it. > > 2) For anyone who has used it, does it interface well as a Braille display > with Windows? I have not generally used a Braille display with a a PC but am > beginning to think it might be the right way to go in certain parts of my > job. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2019, at 11:46 AM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> The ElBraille has a ton of new commands to learn. I wish there has been a >> model with a QUERTY keyboard. I probably just need to bite the bullet and >> learn the commands I would use most often. Unfortunately, that's hard to >> do when in the midst of litigation. I think your idea makes a good deal of >> sense. But I don't see a problem with getting an ElBraille, if you have >> both the time and desire to get up to speed on the various commands. I >> honestly don't know much about its performance, but it's definitely not as >> fast as a normal PC or presumably a Surface. >> >> >>> On 5/24/2019 11:36 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: >>> James, >>> >>> I was thinking of getting a 5th gen ElBraille 40 when they come out in >>> the next month or so. Are you not pleased with your ElBraille? I was >>> considering a surface instead as I could use it in my backpack with a >>> braille display on my lap. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Aimee >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:48 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree. I have an ElBraille, supposedly a fully functional Windows >>>> machine but with a Braille rather than a qwerty keyboard. Thankfully, >>>> the Braille display can be powered on without booting up the entire >>>> machine. I have found that pairing it with my iPhone makes far more >>>> sense than trying to memorize the 10,000 new Jaws commands that I would >>>> have to learn to use it effectively as a full-blown Windows machine. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 1/11/2019 1:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> With all due respect, the BrailleNote Touch is already obsolete in >>>>> today's highly technological world. All Braille notetakers are behind >>>>> the times and lack the capabilities of most modern tablets available to >>>>> the general public. Generally, they have less storage and fewer >>>>> functions than tablets released even five years ago! The ability to run >>>>> operating systems like Android is a nice touch, but unless that >>>>> functionality is perfectly integrated, it doesn't work well and apps >>>>> either never work with the units or begin crashing. If I were >>>>> recommending technology to today's up and coming law students and >>>>> attorneys, I would not recommend a notetaker specifically designed for >>>>> the blind, but rather a good Braille display and tablet of some sort, >>>>> in addition to a good laptop. For advanced users, an iPad or Surface >>>>> Pro can nearly replace use of a laptop, though I myself still prefer a >>>>> laptop for many tasks. I use a 40-cell Braille display, iPad, iPhone, >>>>> desktop computer, and an ultraportable laptop running JAWS. Purchasing >>>>> all of these items would cost as much, or less, than a Braille >>>>> notetaker and provide more flexibility and functionality. Just my >>>>> opinion. >>>>> >>>>> Ms. Tai Tomasi, J.D. >>>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>>>> Staff Attorney >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 >>>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309 >>>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 >>>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 >>>>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org >>>>> www.driowa.org >>>>> >>>>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of >>>>> Iowans with disabilities >>>>> >>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>>>> >>>>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm >>>>> of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the >>>>> named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client >>>>> communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than >>>>> an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, >>>>> you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any >>>>> attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you >>>>> have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and >>>>> delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or >>>>> storage media and destroy any printouts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Roanna >>>>> Bacchus via BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:21 PM >>>>> To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via BlindLaw >>>>> >>>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] BrailleNote Touch Thoughts >>>>> >>>>> Hi Olesgun thanks for your message. Humanware is constantly developing >>>>> the BrailleNote Touch with new features and other improvements. They >>>>> have excellent and very satisfactory customer service. I am a >>>>> BrailleNote Touch user. I don't think that this product will become >>>>> obselete. >>>>> >>>>> Roanna Bacchus >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 11, 2019 1:13 PM, "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via >>>>>> BlindLaw" wrote: >>>>>> If Blitab ever comes out of darkness and sees the light of day, it >>>>>> will most definitely knock both the BrailleNote Touch and HIMS >>>>>> Polaris >>>>>> into obsolescence fast and quick. >>>>>> >>>>>> Blitab will run Android as its OS! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> Olusegun >>>>>> Denver, Colorado >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>>>>> ail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jtfetter%40yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:42:19 -0400 > From: kelby carlson > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software > and JAWS > Message-ID: <30B104F6-E50D-482B-83B1-C2D506AF1208 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I did not use this for my bar exam; I had a proctor and used regular Word > documents on an encrypted drive that was provided to me. I would ask if that > is a possibility or if there is a way to test the software first?you do not > want to run into problems on exam day. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:12 AM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> They do it to have an easy way of submitting your essay. >> >> BruceSexton, JD >> >> Dictated on an accessible device. >> >>> On May 21, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Nijat Worley via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Greetings all, >>> >>> I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the >>> accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they >>> would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software >>> installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for >>> tests. >>> Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible >>> with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it >>> does not block JAWS. But I don?t understand why I need to use the >>> software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. >>> Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nijat Worley >>> J.D. >>> >>> Twitter: @nijatworley >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 21 > ***************************************** > -- Nijat Worley J.D. Twitter: @nijatworley From nijat1989 at gmail.com Sat May 25 15:53:58 2019 From: nijat1989 at gmail.com (Nijat Worley) Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 10:53:58 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tai, I think I am just going to ask them to let me take the exam without the exam software in word. They indicated that they would be willing to let me do that. Thanks for your help. Nijat On 5/22/19, blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send BlindLaw mailing list submissions to > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > blindlaw-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > blindlaw-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BlindLaw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS > (Nijat Worley) > 2. Re: Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS > (Tai Tomasi) > 3. Blind lawyers (Kostiantyn Moskalenko) > 4. Re: Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS > (philosopher25 at gmail.com) > 5. Re: Kaplan LSAT prep course (philosopher25 at gmail.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 09:39:20 -0500 > From: Nijat Worley > To: blindlaw > Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and > JAWS > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Greetings all, > > I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the > accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they > would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software > installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for > tests. > Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible > with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it > does not block JAWS. But I don?t understand why I need to use the > software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. > Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Nijat Worley > J.D. > > Twitter: @nijatworley > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 15:58:25 +0000 > From: Tai Tomasi > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software > and JAWS > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Nijat: > > I took the Iowa bar exam in 2015 and was not asked to use this software. I > am not familiar with it. Please contact me off list if I can be of > assistance. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D. > Pronouns: she/her/hers > Staff Attorney > > > > 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 > Des Moines, Iowa 50309 > Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 > FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 > E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org > http://driowa.org/ > > Our Mission:? To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans > with disabilities > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of > Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named > recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client > communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an > intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are > prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from > making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any > attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any > printouts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nijat Worley via > BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:39 AM > To: blindlaw > Cc: Nijat Worley > Subject: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software and JAWS > > Greetings all, > > I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the > accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they would > provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software installed on it. > I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for tests. > Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible with > JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it does not > block JAWS. But I don?t understand why I need to use the software if it is > going to be in unsecure mode anyway. > Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Nijat Worley > J.D. > > Twitter: @nijatworley > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:38:34 +0300 > From: Kostiantyn Moskalenko > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello! Can you give me the contacts of blind lawyers or lawyers who deal > with the problems of the blind? > > Kostiantyn Moskalenko > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:12:28 -0400 > From: philosopher25 at gmail.com > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Taking the bar exam with ILG Exam360 software > and JAWS > Message-ID: <273A80DE-127C-4066-90A0-9BE0117D8F12 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > They do it to have an easy way of submitting your essay. > > BruceSexton, JD > > Dictated on an accessible device. > >> On May 21, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Nijat Worley via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Greetings all, >> >> I just got a call from the Iowa Board of Bar Examiners about the >> accommodations I requested on the bar exam. They told me that they >> would provide me with a laptop with JAWS and ILG Exam360 Software >> installed on it. I have never used JAWS together with ILG 360Exam for >> tests. >> Do any of you have experience with this software? Is it accessible >> with JAWS? They said that it can be used in an unsecure mode where it >> does not block JAWS. But I don?t understand why I need to use the >> software if it is going to be in unsecure mode anyway. >> Thoughts, suggestions, please send them my way! >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nijat Worley >> J.D. >> >> Twitter: @nijatworley >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:17:27 -0400 > From: philosopher25 at gmail.com > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Kaplan LSAT prep course > Message-ID: <10508954-5B3E-4F71-901C-59B05E953AF6 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I highly recommend Power Score over Kaplan. > > > Email me privately, I can give you my phone number and talk more about it > more efficiently than typing it. > > BruceSexton, JD > > Dictated on an accessible device. > >> On May 16, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Kenia Flores via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Good evening all, >> >> I hope this message finds you all well. >> I am an undergraduate student beginning to prepare for the LSAT. My >> university just awarded me a scholarship specifically for the purpose >> of taking a Kaplan LSAT prep course. Have any of you taken a course >> with Kaplan either in-person or online? If so, I would love to hear >> about your experiences (the good and possibly the bad). Did you >> encounter any barriers requesting accommodations? Did you have >> positive experiences with the instructor(s)? Thank you in advance for >> any insight you are able to offer. >> >> Best, >> Kenia Flores >> >> Kenia Flores >> Furman University ?20 >> Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students >> (704) 476-6629 >> Kenia.flores at furman.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 18 > ***************************************** > -- Nijat Worley J.D. 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Manage your Subscriptions | Department of Justice Privacy Policy | GovDelivery Privacy Policy From ttomasi at driowa.org Thu May 30 14:06:09 2019 From: ttomasi at driowa.org (Tai Tomasi) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:06:09 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Kaplan LSAT prep course In-Reply-To: <10508954-5B3E-4F71-901C-59B05E953AF6@gmail.com> References: <10508954-5B3E-4F71-901C-59B05E953AF6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed, Powerscore is much more helpful. I have taken both of these courses. However, I believe this student can glean at least some helpful study strategies from the Kaplan course if she is willing to adapt it with her own shorthand code for the visual aspects of the course. Tai Tomasi, J.D. Pronouns: she/her/hers Staff Attorney 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300 Des Moines, Iowa 50309 Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502 FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711 E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org http://driowa.org/ Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of philosopher25--- via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:17 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: philosopher25 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Kaplan LSAT prep course I highly recommend Power Score over Kaplan. Email me privately, I can give you my phone number and talk more about it more efficiently than typing it. BruceSexton, JD Dictated on an accessible device. > On May 16, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Kenia Flores via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good evening all, > > I hope this message finds you all well. > I am an undergraduate student beginning to prepare for the LSAT. My > university just awarded me a scholarship specifically for the purpose > of taking a Kaplan LSAT prep course. Have any of you taken a course > with Kaplan either in-person or online? If so, I would love to hear > about your experiences (the good and possibly the bad). Did you > encounter any barriers requesting accommodations? Did you have > positive experiences with the instructor(s)? Thank you in advance for > any insight you are able to offer. > > Best, > Kenia Flores > > Kenia Flores > Furman University ‘20 > Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History 2nd Vice > President | National Association of Blind Students President | North > Carolina Association of Blind Students > (704) 476-6629 > Kenia.flores at furman.edu > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40 > gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ttomasi%40driowa.org From EHill at browngold.com Thu May 30 23:43:01 2019 From: EHill at browngold.com (Eve Hill) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 23:43:01 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Georgetown AI Fairness Job Posting.pdf Message-ID: Hi all This seems like a really interesting project and they're hiring for what seems like a really interesting position. 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