[blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings

Shannon Dillon shannonldillon at gmail.com
Fri May 3 12:48:56 UTC 2019


I haven’t had a problem with this directly in case documents I’m working with. But I have seen it on Westlaw in regulations I work with regularly.

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> On May 2, 2019, at 6:32 PM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have not encountered this often, but I have seen it. I tend more to run into the problem that absolutely everything where I work is web generated, printed out, and re-scanned into the digital file. This plays havock with any tables or forms, such that it is often more efficient just to ask someone what is on the paper. Just in general, I am not sure how these approaches benefit anyone, even the sighted.
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>> On May 2, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not proposing anything at the moment, just "spitballing," as they
>> say.  I think the first step would be to get a handle on the
>> problem--how it manifests itself, etc.  And that would, I think,
>> include finding out how Westlaw and lexis take PDFs from filed cases
>> and input them onto their databases.  Do they literally retype them
>> from scratch?  Rescan the PDFs?  There are probably a lot of questions
>> that would be helpful to know the answers to, but I'm not
>> technologically savvy enough to know what's worth asking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/2/19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Laura:
>>> 
>>> Are you proposing that we approach Westlaw and Lexis with these concerns, or
>>> undertake a broader effort to get accessible documents? The few times an
>>> embedded image has rendered necessary text inaccessible, it has been in a
>>> document prepared and sent to me by judges or other attorneys, not in a
>>> document on Westlaw.
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>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via
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>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Embedded images in cases/other filings
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I sort of figured it was only a matter of time until this happened, but I've
>>> recently noticed a marked uptick in the number of embedded images
>>> (unaccompanied by explanations) that have made their way into cases and
>>> briefs I have been reading.  These aren't even always purely pictures; they
>>> are oftentimes tables or other charts that easily could be rendered in an
>>> accessible fashion or easily described in-text.  Has
>>> anyone else noticed this?   I think this is going to be a problem of
>>> increasing magnitude as the years go by and we should probably jump on it
>>> sooner rather than later.
>>> 
>>> Laura
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