[blindlaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 180, Issue 10

Fri May 10 17:01:30 UTC 2019

Shane,
   I requested electronic copy of the test on a computer with JAWS,
and a scribe to fill out my answers on the scantron. I typed up my
answers on the electronic exam as I went along so that I could go back
and check my answers with the scribe. It worked fine for me. I think
this is the most simple and accessible way to do it. They sent their
own laptop with jaws and the exam already loaded on it in word format.
It took a couple of minutes to get used to the keyboard layout on the
laptop, and the JAWS settings were a little different than what I
usually have on my personal computer, but everything worked out fine.

   Nijat

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> From: Shane Wegner <shanew at outlook.com>
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
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> Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the
> mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested
> jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would
> provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron.
>
> I?ve never had to do an exam this way and i?m wondering whether i have to
> accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe
> marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam
> myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own.
>
> Thoughts?
> Shane
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:20:49 +0000
> From: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
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> Shane:
>
> I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have
> always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling
> reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to
> prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred
> accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point.
>
> I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected
> answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The
> proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected
> answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all
> the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not
> request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it
> does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar
> exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will
> set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use
> similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests
> are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you
> provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck.
>
>  Tai Tomasi, J.D.
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> Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
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> Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the
> mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested
> jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would
> provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron.
>
> I?ve never had to do an exam this way and i?m wondering whether i have to
> accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe
> marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam
> myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own.
>
> Thoughts?
> Shane
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:57:25 +0000
> From: Richard Welch <richard.welch.gs at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
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> As I understand it, they are already doing this as a trial with full
> implementation within the next two years. IMHO If they want to argue the
> point it is kind of Moot.
>
> Best,
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> RICHARD WELCH
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> Best,
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
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> Shane:
>
> I don't know how the NCBE's stance has evolved over the years, but they have
> always been hesitant to provide computers for the MPRE. Absent a compelling
> reason why the scantron and scribe is inadequate, it may be difficult to
> prevail on this point. The ADA does not guarantee us our preferred
> accommodation. That said, I think you should argue the point.
>
> I used a Braille test booklet and scratched out the letter of my selected
> answer. I believe I also had a Brailler to write them down. The
> proctor/scribe sat with me in a private room. I gave the scribe my selected
> answers as we went along. At the conclusion of the test, we went through all
> the answers on the scantron to verify they matched my selections. I did not
> request the use of JAWS so I am not much help on that point. However, it
> does seem that the NCBE is much more likely to grant use of JAWS on the bar
> exam than on the MPRE. Be aware that whatever you request for the MPRE will
> set the stage for your bar exam requests. NCBE will expect you to use
> similar accommodations for the bar exam and might push back if your requests
> are very different. In my experience, the NCBE was reasonable if you
> provided detailed explanations for your requests. Good luck.
>
> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
> Pronouns: she/her/hers
> Staff Attorney
>
>
>
> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
> Tel: 515-278-2502 x15; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
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> Cc: Shane Wegner <shanew at outlook.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Accommodations for MPRE
>
> Hello all, just curious what sort of exam accommodations i can expect on the
> mpre and bar exam. I decided to take the mpre after 1l year and requested
> jaws and a computer based exam. I was granted jaws but they said they would
> provide a scribe to write dictated answers onto the scantron.
>
> I?ve never had to do an exam this way and i?m wondering whether i have to
> accept that accommodation. In particular, how can i verify that the scribe
> marked out the scantron the way i instructed? If i am completing the exam
> myself using a computer based tests, any mistakes filling out are my own.
>
> Thoughts?
> Shane
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Nijat Worley
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