[blindLaw] Most important formatting advice I have -- Re: Discrimination

Laura Wolk laura.wolk at gmail.com
Thu Oct 3 15:42:00 UTC 2019


I'm sorry, Kelby.  I just retried this, and you're right, the italics
do get stripped.  I don't copy from Westlaw much these days.  So this
must have changed somewhere along the way.

On 10/3/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think so; I've been doing this for years.  And I'm using MS 16 now.
>
> On 10/3/19, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Strange--when I just tried this (with merge formatting checked) the
>> italics did not show up. I'm using Word 2016; perhaps the version
>> makes a difference.
>>
>> On 10/3/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Italics remain.  Links do not.  best of both worlds!
>>>
>>> On 10/3/19, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Laura,
>>>>
>>>> When pasting from Westlaw and setting the paste options to merge
>>>> formatting, do things like italics remain or do you need to redo them?
>>>> I ask because until recently I had keep source formatting on by
>>>> default, which as you have explained was causing a lot of problems.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/3/19, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Do you mean that you use words automatic numbering feature when you
>>>>> are done editing a list or that you re-number everything yourself when
>>>>> you are done editing?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/3/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I do it at the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/3/19, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you do when you have to re-number a very long list (say, in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> civil complaint) in Word if you have to add something and the
>>>>>>> numbering is off? Often times the auto-numbering in Word doesn't fix
>>>>>>> this, but it has been a lifesaver a couple of times. This is the
>>>>>>> main
>>>>>>> reason I have auto-numbering turned on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sharing this on list because I've gotten a few off-list
>>>>>>>> responses
>>>>>>>> like the below message, and I want to make sure that everyone gets
>>>>>>>> this info.  In my opinion, it's the biggest way to rid docs of
>>>>>>>> blindness-only formatting errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By default, when you cut and paste into a word document from
>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>> document, program, or website, Word will retain the original
>>>>>>>> formatting from that pasted text.  That means that if you're fiile
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> in Times New Roman size 12, but the text you paste is Calibri size
>>>>>>>> 10,
>>>>>>>> you will be plopping a different font and size into your doc, and
>>>>>>>> anything you write going forward will be in that font and size.
>>>>>>>> Same
>>>>>>>> goes for spacing, color, and any number of other attributes from
>>>>>>>> pasted text.  My biggest piece of advice, and the advice I repeat
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> often to blind folks, is to **turn this setting off!!.**  It only
>>>>>>>> causes problems.  And, in the rare instance where you do need to
>>>>>>>> preserve the original formatting, you can hit control immediately
>>>>>>>> after pasting and choose "keep source formatting," and any special
>>>>>>>> formatting will be retained.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With so many iterations of word these days, I don't feel
>>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>> typing out directions.  But go spElunking in your ADVANCED word
>>>>>>>> options, Google, call Microsoft, whatever you need to do to find
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> Also note that there are two boxes, one for pasting between
>>>>>>>> documents
>>>>>>>> and one for pasting between programs.  They should both be set to
>>>>>>>> merge formatting.  And while you're at it, turn off auto bullets
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> auto numbering, and check the box that says "set left- and right-
>>>>>>>> indent with tabs and backspaces."  This will mean you'll need to
>>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>>> tab every time you start a new paragraph.  However, it will also
>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>> that you won't have paragraphs randomly indented a third of the way
>>>>>>>> into the page because Word decided to do something stupid using its
>>>>>>>> very smart "auto" features.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also be aware that you will have to do this separately in outlook
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.  Though it uses Word as a text processor, it has its own set
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, in the words of the infomercials, you should
>>>>>>>> **immediately**
>>>>>>>> see **vast** and **life-changing** results!  All kidding aside,
>>>>>>>> though, this is the first thing I do whenever I get a new job or
>>>>>>>> computer, and it has made an absolute world of difference to me and
>>>>>>>> the amount of errors that sighted folks need to fix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy formatting,
>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/2/19, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is definitely helpful. I admit I am not proficient at using a
>>>>>>>>> Braille display with my screen reader, and I'm sure this would be
>>>>>>>>> helpful. Do you use UEB to proof for things like formatting? In my
>>>>>>>>> experience it gives far more specific results than regular US
>>>>>>>>> braille.
>>>>>>>>> I assume you would still need some formatting such as fonts and
>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>> spoken. (I only recently figured out that oftentimes color is
>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>> in things I copy and paste which ends up making certain sections
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> documents look very odd; thankfully my office is pretty good at
>>>>>>>>> bringing these formatting errors to my attention.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully these questions aren't bothersome; I have definitely
>>>>>>>>> realized how important these factors are since beginning work and
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> still working out the best way of ensuring visual consistency in
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> documents.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Kelby,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A nonbreaking space, like a nonbreaking hyphen, means that word
>>>>>>>>>> wrap
>>>>>>>>>> will not break up whatever is on either side of it.  So, for
>>>>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>>>>> if you had the word burden--shifting, and for some reason burden
>>>>>>>>>> ended
>>>>>>>>>> up on one line and shifting on another, you'd replace the dash
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> nonbreaking hyphen so that the word wouldn't be chopped.  A
>>>>>>>>>> nonbreaking space is, in my experience, customarily used between
>>>>>>>>>> section and paragraph symbols and the number so as to keep the
>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>> together.  It's also used in between the periods of an ellipsis.
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> all depends on the custom of the firm or court you work for, of
>>>>>>>>>> course.  There is a setting in Jaws that is supposed to read out
>>>>>>>>>> nonbreaking characters (you can find it by activating quick
>>>>>>>>>> settings
>>>>>>>>>> and typing in the word breaking), but this is currently not
>>>>>>>>>> functioning.  Vispero is aware and has escalated it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for formatting, I do most of my proofing in Braille.  But I
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> turned on the setting where Jaws will tell me when spacing
>>>>>>>>>> changes,
>>>>>>>>>> which I find very helpful.  I also have punctuation set to some,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I've added some customary marks into that, like quotation marks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope this is helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/19, kelby carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> How much formatting information do you all have your screen
>>>>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> you are reading through a text? I now have mine set up to read
>>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> everything while I'm in Word, and while it is kind of
>>>>>>>>>>> distracting
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>> necessary for proofing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to know if there is anywhere that discusses the
>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>> kinds
>>>>>>>>>>> of hyphens and when to use them. And I have no idea what a
>>>>>>>>>>> non-breaking
>>>>>>>>>>> space is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great I’m glad the workaround is working again! By the way you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> this to make Jaws pronounce non-breaking spaces, which also got
>>>>>>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere along the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Angela Matney via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura, I have Word 2016. I just changed the entries for \8220
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> \8221
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to left quote and right quote, respectively, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WordClassic.jdf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default, both were set to the quote symbol (not sure which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes seem to have taken. I think I will have to make sure I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for other dictionary files as well. Hopefully it works for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m
>>>>>>>>>>>>> excited to have these pronounced differently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angela Matney, CIPP/US
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attorney at Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Loeb & Loeb LLP]<http://www.loeb.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loeb and Loeb LLP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 6:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great! I will try again tomorrow. I just updated again today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> word 2016, but I don't see why that would affect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dictionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the most recent update of JAWS 2019 and office 365.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By The State Bar of California
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Professional Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.holsteinlaw.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.holsteinlaw.com%3cBR%3e%3e>mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 3:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to do this, but I mentioned in an earlier message that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer able to get the dictionary to change those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronunciations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tole Vispero and they've replicated it. Are you using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Jaws and is it working for you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also does this if the document is an email attachment and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> html form.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Angela Matney via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have found that JAWS will do this if you have smart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quotes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file in notepad. I wish it did it in Word and outlook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it in Notepad, it seems it would not be that difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior over to the Office products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? Not in my experience. Can you give us an example of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/1/19, Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS does this as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian C. Unitt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certified Specialist, Appellate Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Professional Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Riverside, CA 92501
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 951-682-7030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 951-684-8061
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.holsteinlaw.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.holsteinlaw.com%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.holsteinlaw.com%3cBR%3e%3e>>mailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%3emailto:brianunitt at holsteinlaw%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 10:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kelby Carlson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kelbycarlson at gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarlson at gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarlson at gmail.com%3cmailto:kelbycarlson at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For anybody who uses NVDA, you can tell if a quote is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because NVDA will say left/right quote, not just quote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/28/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair point, Ger. And then to hold me accountable going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/25/19, Gerard Sadlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com<mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com<mailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com%3cmailto:gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must say, I think the appropriate course for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under-graduate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professors to have followed would have been to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Mark on the substance (since to do otherwise would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presumably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect your grades and therefore have a disproportionate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your future); and 2. To tell you they were doing so and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explain the issues with content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, exactly. I submitted paper upon paper upon paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undergrad with these errors. I was judged based on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "substance,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because that's what the profs thought was "equitable."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it wasn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because no one's going to care about "equity" when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with drafting something for a client. This is why I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is in the back of people's minds... how much extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we going to need to put in to make her work look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentable?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are right, Angie. People just don't think to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they see this stuff and think, it'll only take a second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix this... No harm, no foul.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My example is that I never had Braille marking/sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schemes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned on for highlighting. I never really thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But people at my Firm would highlight things that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled in when filing, such as the final word count and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submission date. So although I would fill in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were still in yellow. My assistant was just changing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After I had yet another uncomfortable conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew she thought she was helping, and I really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc etc etc etc, she told me she'd make sure to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything similar came up in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com<mailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com%3cmailto:laura.wolk at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha. You are all proving my point, sadly. The same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, except htat my law review editor pointed it out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing happens with an apostrophe. A "straight"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostrophe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ascii value 39, and curly smart apostrophes are 8216
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8217.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hate to tell you, Angie, but any apostrophes would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as straight when drafted in note pad too. This can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when copy/pasting from Westlaw or briefs or pdfs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been asking people at Vispero to make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize the Jaws word dictionary so that you can add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace it with the word "straight quote" and likewise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight apostrophe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This used to work, but doesn't anymore. But since Jaws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be so tempermental these days, you might give it a go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it works for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no, there is no Braille differences between these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I, too, check for underlying ascii values. I also do a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control+F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before submitting any document, searching for a ^34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^39.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Placing a caret before the number causes word to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ascii value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fascinating. JAWS doesn't tell me there's any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatsoever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you access the ASCII information? Similarly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world do we learn these things while we're still in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Angela Matney via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do my best to describe them. I will only talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straight quotes are tapered, with the narrow end at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The widest point is at the top. There is only one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represents the quotation mark, whether it is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or a closing quote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curly quotes are also tapered, with the narrow point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom, but they are curved. The opening quote is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to a print letter “C,”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its curve facing to the right. The closing quote, on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the enclosed material, is shaped like a backwards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “C,”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its curve faces to the left. It is almost like they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enclosing the material.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess literary braille technically uses smart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quotes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the opening and closing quotes are different. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could use two apostrophes to represent both opening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing quotes in braille, but I really don’t see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often. I don’t think braille has an equivalent for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight quote, but someone please jump in and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Here is a sentence enclosed in smart quotes.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here is a sentence enclosed in straight quotes."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created the second sentence by typing in Notepad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it into this email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tell the difference?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angela Matney, CIPP/US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attorney at Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Loeb & Loeb LLP]<http://www.loeb.com/> Loeb and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loeb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LLP
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.or%0b>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> g>> On Behalf Of Ray Wayne via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com<mailto:rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com<mailto:rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com%3cmailto:rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering that also. Is there a Braille symbol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart quote?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Wayne, New York City
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.or%0b>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> g<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw-bounces
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw-bounces%0b>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @nfbnet.org>>> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindla
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindla%0b>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> w at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:w at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Shannon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sbg at sbgaal.com<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3c
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cmailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cmailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3c%0b>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry Laura,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I was trying to do too many things at once.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was regarding knowing the difference between a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart quote/apostrophe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure I know what a smart quote is. Can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1212 Texas Avenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lubbock, Texas 79401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: (806) 763-3999
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: (806) 781-9296
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: (806) 749-3752
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sbg at sbgaal.com<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cm<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cmailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cmailto:sbg at sbgaal.com%3cm>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ailto:sbg at sbgaal.com>> This email may contain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential, privileged and/or attorney work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sole use of the intended recipient. Any review,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution by others or forwarding without express
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact the sender and delete all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon, would you mind repeating your question? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand what you are trying to ask.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As to the broader conversation, I think what I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at is that we have to face the sad but true reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are, in fact, blind attorneys out there who produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser visual quality, whose firms or legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever come along behind and clean up the work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens. And no one ever tells the person, so, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the person continues to remain unaware of the errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over and over again, and the people continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blind person is not as capable as the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This has happened to me also. I have even had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where I initially pressed the superior to give me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific feedback, they said nothing was wrong, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and said "this is very important to me. Whatever you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be able to figure out a way to address it."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they did give me some feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend and former co-clerk works with a blind guy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his emails were formatted whackily. The junior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told my friend not to say anything but, being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he knew it was the right thing to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the blind attorney was very grateful and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the stuff I'm talking about. We need to be real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft skills help we need, and we need to create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is indeed OK to tell a blind person "Hey, Just an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasionally doing something that makes your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura and all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for such an enlightening discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employment discrimination. I have planned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of attorneys responsible for hiring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ask them for more information. Laura, I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email off-list to learn more from your perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Cody Davis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was able to secure a temporary position at my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following graduation and licensure. Now, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position is ending next Monday. And, despite my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wholehearted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts over the last 6 months to find work, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employment lined up. (Somewhat jokingly) I’m far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this point to sell someone on a career in law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meredith and James have done an excellent job of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all you should consider in looking to go to law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was initially reluctant to do any disability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related work in law school because I did not want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placed in that box either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I looked for work in that area assuming that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in that area might be a bit more understanding and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> educated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wrong. Do not assume that those who practice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability rights law are any less susceptible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biases, misperceptions, or lack of understanding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to employment discrimination.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the best thing to do, James, is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> educating folks on the reality that blind or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired attorneys are as capable as their sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counterparts in all but a very few ways. My local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a Taskforce to address, among other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employment discrimination against persons with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the legal profession. We are trying to provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to members of the bar on the capacity of lawyers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities in the hopes that this will alleviate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the underlying causes of employment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discrimination.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is done by presenting at meetings of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bench
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and bar, hosting CLE’s, and publishing writings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog post linked below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalis%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m-Co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mmitt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionali
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionali%3cBR%3e>>>>>>>>>>>>>><%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sm-C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-C%0b>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%3e%3e%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ommitt%3cBR%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Maura Kutnyak via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cody, James, Meredith, what might you all offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons for people like myself and Sanho pursuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree? I took the LSAT this past Saturday. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that for whatever it’s worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, it can be hard to persevere when such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anecdotes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a majority of what we used to fill our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sales.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have often been paranoid about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phenomenon such as the one you indicate Cody. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried that someone will see my GPA and somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that all of my professors have independently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generous and grant grades which I do not deserve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course irrational but still what I’m hearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested in a few different areas of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not particularly drawn to disability rights. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons why is that I don’t want to be silo into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which others expect me to enter. I don’t want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to practice law in an area related to one of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible and perceptibly limiting characteristics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of that said, I can see how that may be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excepting field of practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damn darn heck! Anyway, please forgive some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am following my one year-old around as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have time to perfect this dispatch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much everyone for your insight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Cody Davis via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James’ point is spot on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I find even more disturbing than James’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that the experience a blind candidate may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way of externships and internships does not seem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuage employers’ concerns about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to practice. Despite my four externships during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in which I was able to perform the work assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfaction of my supervisors, I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt my abilities to deliver the work they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t my history of success in the workplace
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my ability to thrive in practice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have also found that fellow attorneys and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general have no issue trusting that I am capable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something, so long as I am not being paid to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no problem securing volunteer or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involvement opportunities. .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Meredith Ballard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you summed it up perfectly with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law school being seen as a parlor trick.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I had a degree and a license, I was asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interview how I got those things if I can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical book. They seemed to be under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that someone must have helped me with all my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have noticed a big difference in how I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other attorneys when they find out I have my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versus how I was treated when I was first out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and looking for a job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you work for yourself other attorneys see you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can potentially work with and it is easier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discrimination in the hiring process is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be before entering the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profession.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meredith Ballard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James, your candor is both refreshing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stimulus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart break.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882 <tel:716-563-9882>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:37 PM, James T. Fetter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%0b>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%0b>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%20%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%20%25%0b>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%20%25%0b>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I recently heard from a friend of mine--also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also an attorney, practicing for quite some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now--that many employers pretty much look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person's success in law school as a "parlor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an indication of your ability to thrive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice. I think he's right, and it makes a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of sense in light of my experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many employers do not equate doing well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school, which is still extremely important by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all the things that law school doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for: taking depositions, handling contentious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with opposing counsel, reviewing documents,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, handling evidence with any kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost have to prove that you can do all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things before being?? seen as potentially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in practice. I understand that things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less grim for people who have clerkships. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find out if this is true in my own case. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if the same fears cloud employers'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgments in a transactional or compliance??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given the nature of the work. So, be prepared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of rejection, but still be the best possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that you can be competitive for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can act as a bridge to a long-term, full-time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2019 11:42 AM, Cody Davis via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remarkably discriminatory. Far more so than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self thought when I was first licensed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steele-Louchart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailt%0b>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning. How discriminatory have you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hiring practices so far? Messages are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto<mailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :BlindLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.or
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etter%25%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lindLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:lindLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kutny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/%3cBR%3e>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maur%0b>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> akutny%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ak%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/%3cBR%3e>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maur%0b>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> akutn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mauraku
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mauraku%3cBR%3e>>>>>>>>>>>><%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:indLaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindLaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindLaw
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40l
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%3cBR%3e>>>>>>>>>>>><%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
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