[blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents-solution

Wed Sep 11 14:05:12 UTC 2019

Thanks, Amar.  I have followed these instructions and I do believe
it's improved my performance a bit.

On 9/9/19, Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com> wrote:
> Angie-Was responding to your email in context of what Randy wrote.
>
> Laura- content objects is a programming concept, but think of it this way.
> Your entire document is your parent object, and inside it are sections,
> paragraphs, pages, etc. These are your common examples of content objects.
> So Jaws tries to count them each time when document loads.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 09-Sep-2019, at 7:50 PM, Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Amar, sorry, I’m not sure what you’re referring to below with respect to
>> 500. I think maybe this is an issue experienced by someone else.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Angie
>> From: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:15 AM
>> To: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
>> Cc: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; Farber, Randy
>> <rfarber at jw.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large
>> documents-solution
>>
>>
>>
>> Your understanding is correct Angie. But I am not sure why you are seeing
>> 500 as well. Before finding, we can tick ‘match whole words’. This has not
>> sorted out the problem fully and I have sent them a pdf of 2024 pages
>> where Word completely crashes with Jaws.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 09-Sep-2019, at 7:16 PM, Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Given that the function of a semicolon at the beginning of a line is
>> generally to tell a compiler to ignore what follows, my guess is that it’s
>> supposed to be at the beginning of the “D” in “Detect.” Having said that,
>> I don’t do JAWS scripting, so this is my (semi-)educated guess. I’m going
>> to try this, because I think it may help with some other issues I’ve had
>> in Word that are hard or impossible to duplicate.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Farber, Randy
>> via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 11:08 PM
>> To:amarjain at amarjain.com; Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Farber, Randy <rfarber at jw.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large
>> documents-solution
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Amar -
>>
>> Is the semicolon at the beginning of the line before the "D" or is it at
>> the beginning of a second line?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amar Jain via
>> BlindLaw
>> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 9:06 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large
>> documents-solution
>>
>> **RECEIVED FROM EXTERNAL SENDER – USE CAUTION**
>>
>> Here is the solution which will be included in Jaws 2020.
>>
>> Go into Word, then bring up Script Manager with insert 0.
>> Press Control+F and paste in the following:
>> DetectObjectsInDocumentCountChange()
>> Move your cursor to the beginning of the line and type a semicolon.
>> Press control+S to compile, now objects will not be counted every time a
>> document is loaded.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Amar Jain
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 6:53 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Nicole Askins <njaskins at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents
>>
>> Hi Randy,
>>
>> I tried all of that including complete pagination. But nothing worked.
>>
>> The interim solution is to convert the scanned pdf into HTML from Fine
>> Reader itself.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 29-Aug-2019, at 11:07 PM, Nicole Askins via BlindLaw
>> > <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Similarly, I am having difficulty with narrator in that it has a lag
>> > that does not type the actual words that I am typing. For example if I
>> > type of word to quickly there are only a few letters. Does anyone have
>> > any similar situations? If so how did you resolve it. I am not a Jaws
>> > user
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 9:17 AM Farber, Randy via BlindLaw <
>> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Amar - I have found that JAWS can take a couple of minutes to
>> >> get settled in large documents. For example I was working on a 250
>> >> page document last night it took several minutes at one point for
>> >> JAWS to start responding again. If waiting for a few minutes doesn't
>> >> work, can you save the document as an RTF or a Word 97 document and
>> >> retain the formatting that you need?
>> >>
>> >> Randy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amar Jain
>> >> via BlindLaw
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:03 PM
>> >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> >> Cc: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
>> >> Subject: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents
>> >>
>> >> **RECEIVED FROM EXTERNAL SENDER – USE CAUTION**
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Using MS Office 2016 in Windows Server 2016 with Citrix Xen app.
>> >> While converting documents through Fine Reader which needs to retain
>> >> headers and footers of the VDR, the resulting word document goes in
>> >> not responding state as soon as we navigate to next page. As
>> >> indicated, it only happens while Jaws is running and not with Narrator
>> >> / NVDA.
>> >>
>> >> I have also tried to save this into pdf / html from Word file, but
>> >> word is just creating another docx file. If anyone has been through
>> >> this and can share a workable solution, then it would be of great
>> >> help.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Amar Jain
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
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