[blindLaw] Discrimination
Sanho Steele-Louchart
sanho817 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 24 21:37:04 UTC 2019
Nikki,
How did you learn these things? I'd love to learn how to teach myself.
Sanho
On 9/24/19, Angela Matney via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Laura, thanks. (And yeah, I’m quite familiar—perhaps painfully familiar—with
> the apostrophe situation.)
>
>
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> Ha. You are all proving my point, sadly. The same happened to me,
> except htat my law review editor pointed it out. The same thing
> happens with an apostrophe. A "straight" apostrophe is ascii value
> 39, and curly smart apostrophes are 8216 and 8217. Hate to tell you,
> Angie, but any apostrophes would have come out as straight when
> drafted in note pad too. This can also happen when copy/pasting from
> Westlaw or briefs or pdfs.
>
> I have been asking people at Vispero to make it possible to customize
> the Jaws word dictionary so that you can add 34 and replace it with
> the word "straight quote" and likewise with the straight apostrophe.
> This used to work, but doesn't anymore. But since Jaws seems to be so
> tempermental these days, you might give it a go and see if it works
> for you.
>
> And no, there is no Braille differences between these symbols. I,
> too, check for underlying ascii values. I also do a control+F before
> submitting any document, searching for a ^34 and ^39. Placing a caret
> before the number causes word to search for the ascii value.
>
> Laura
>
> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> Fascinating. JAWS doesn't tell me there's any difference whatsoever.
>> How do you access the ASCII information? Similarly, how in the world
>> do we learn these things while we're still in school?
>>
>> Sanho
>>
>> On 9/24/19, Angela Matney via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>> I will do my best to describe them. I will only talk about double
>>> quotes.
>>>
>>> Straight quotes are tapered, with the narrow end at the bottom. The
>>> widest
>>> point is at the top. There is only one symbol that represents the
>>> quotation
>>> mark, whether it is an opening quote or a closing quote.
>>>
>>> Curly quotes are also tapered, with the narrow point at the bottom, but
>>> they
>>> are curved. The opening quote is shaped similar to a print letter “C,”
>>> with
>>> its curve facing to the right. The closing quote, on the right of the
>>> enclosed material, is shaped like a backwards “C,” so its curve faces to
>>> the
>>> left. It is almost like they are enclosing the material.
>>>
>>> I guess literary braille technically uses smart quotes, since the
>>> opening
>>> and closing quotes are different. I guess you could use two apostrophes
>>> to
>>> represent both opening and closing quotes in braille, but I really don’t
>>> see
>>> that very often. I don’t think braille has an equivalent for the
>>> straight
>>> quote, but someone please jump in and correct me it I’m wrong.
>>>
>>> “Here is a sentence enclosed in smart quotes.”
>>>
>>> "Here is a sentence enclosed in straight quotes."
>>>
>>> I created the second sentence by typing in Notepad and pasting it into
>>> this
>>> email.
>>>
>>> Can you tell the difference?
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> I was wondering that also. Is there a Braille symbol for a smart quote?
>>> Ray Wayne, New York City
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>>>
>>> Sorry Laura,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I was trying to do too many things at once. My question was
>>> regarding
>>> knowing the difference between a straight and smart quote/apostrophe?
>>> I am not sure I know what a smart quote is. Can you explain.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely,
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>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura
>>> Wolk
>>> via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:36 PM
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>>> Cc: Laura Wolk
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>
>>> Shannon, would you mind repeating your question? I don't quite
>>> understand
>>> what you are trying to ask.
>>>
>>> As to the broader conversation, I think what I'm trying to get at is
>>> that
>>> we
>>> have to face the sad but true reality that there are, in fact, blind
>>> attorneys out there who produce work of lesser visual quality, whose
>>> firms
>>> or legal assistants or whatever come along behind and clean up the work.
>>> It
>>> happens. And no one ever tells the person, so, as Angie said, the person
>>> continues to remain unaware of the errors they make over and over again,
>>> and
>>> the people continue to believe that the blind person is not as capable
>>> as
>>> the rest of their peers. This has happened to me also. I have even had
>>> conversations where I initially pressed the superior to give me blind
>>> specific feedback, they said nothing was wrong, then I pressed and said
>>> "this is very important to me. Whatever you tell me, I will be able to
>>> figure out a way to address it." And then they did give me some
>>> feedback.
>>> A
>>> friend and former co-clerk works with a blind guy and noticed that his
>>> emails were formatted whackily. The junior partner told my friend not to
>>> say
>>> anything but, being friends with me, he knew it was the right thing to
>>> do.
>>> Of course, the blind attorney was very grateful and a bit embarrassed.
>>> This
>>> is the stuff I'm talking about. We need to be real about the soft skills
>>> help we need, and we need to create awareness that is indeed OK to tell
>>> a
>>> blind person "Hey, Just an FYI, you are occasionally doing something
>>> that
>>> makes your documents look strange."
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Laura and all,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for such an enlightening discussion surrounding employment
>>>> discrimination. I have planned conversations with a couple of
>>>> attorneys responsible for hiring associates and will ask them for more
>>>> information. Laura, I will send you an email off-list to learn more
>>>> from your perspective.
>>>>
>>>> Warmth,
>>>> Sanho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/19, Cody Davis via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I was able to secure a temporary position at my law school following
>>>>> graduation and licensure. Now, that temporary position is ending next
>>>>> Monday. And, despite my wholehearted efforts over the last 6 months
>>>>> to find work, I have no employment lined up. (Somewhat jokingly) I’m
>>>>> far too bitter at this point to sell someone on a career in law. I
>>>>> think Meredith and James have done an excellent job of giving you all
>>>>> you should consider in looking to go to law school.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was initially reluctant to do any disability rights related work in
>>>>> law school because I did not want to be placed in that box either.
>>>>> But, I looked for work in that area assuming that employers in that
>>>>> area might be a bit more understanding and educated. I was wrong. Do
>>>>> not assume that those who practice disability rights law are any less
>>>>> susceptible to the biases, misperceptions, or lack of understanding
>>>>> that leads to employment discrimination.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the best thing to do, James, is to continue educating folks
>>>>> on the reality that blind or visually impaired attorneys are as
>>>>> capable as their sighted counterparts in all but a very few ways. My
>>>>> local bar has created a Taskforce to address, among other issues,
>>>>> employment discrimination against persons with disabilities in the
>>>>> legal profession. We are trying to provide education to members of
>>>>> the bar on the capacity of lawyers with disabilities in the hopes
>>>>> that this will alleviate some of the underlying causes of employment
>>>>> discrimination. This is done by presenting at meetings of the local
>>>>> bench and bar, hosting CLE’s, and publishing writings like the blog
>>>>> post linked below.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ
>>>>><https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ%3cBR%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>><https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e%3chttps:/www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>> ee
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cody, James, Meredith, what might you all offer as good reasons for
>>>>>> people like myself and Sanho pursuing a legal degree? I took the
>>>>>> LSAT this past Saturday. I am proud of that for whatever it’s worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, it can be hard to persevere when such anecdotes provide a
>>>>>> majority of what we used to fill our sales.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I have often been paranoid about the existence of a phenomenon
>>>>>> such as the one you indicate Cody. I have worried that someone will
>>>>>> see my GPA and somehow assume that all of my professors have
>>>>>> independently decided to be generous and grant grades which I do not
>>>>>> deserve. This is of course irrational but still what I’m hearing
>>>>>> supports that fear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested in a few different areas of the law. I am not
>>>>>> particularly drawn to disability rights. One of the reasons why is
>>>>>> that I don’t want to be silo into a field which others expect me to
>>>>>> enter. I don’t want to be limited to practice law in an area related
>>>>>> to one of my most visible and perceptibly limiting characteristics.
>>>>>> All of that said, I can see how that may be the most excepting field
>>>>>> of practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn darn heck! Anyway, please forgive some of the dictation errors.
>>>>>> I am following my one year-old around as I compose. I don’t have
>>>>>> time to perfect this dispatch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so much everyone for your insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James’ point is spot on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I find even more disturbing than James’ observation is that
>>>>>>> the experience a blind candidate may possess by way of externships
>>>>>>> and internships does not seem to assuage employers’ concerns about
>>>>>>> the candidates’ ability to practice. Despite my four externships
>>>>>>> during law school in which I was able to perform the work assigned
>>>>>>> to the satisfaction of my supervisors, I think employers still
>>>>>>> doubt my abilities to deliver the work they expect. Shouldn’t my
>>>>>>> history of success in the workplace evidence my ability to thrive in
>>>>>>> practice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also found that fellow attorneys and people in general have
>>>>>>> no issue trusting that I am capable to do something, so long as I
>>>>>>> am not being paid to do it. I have absolutely no problem securing
>>>>>>> volunteer or community involvement opportunities. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Meredith Ballard via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you summed it up perfectly with performance in law school
>>>>>>>> being seen as a parlor trick. Despite the fact that I had a degree
>>>>>>>> and a license, I was asked in a job interview how I got those
>>>>>>>> things if I can’t read a physical book. They seemed to be under
>>>>>>>> the impression that someone must have helped me with all my
>>>>>>>> schooling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have noticed a big difference in how I am treated by other
>>>>>>>> attorneys when they find out I have my own firm versus how I was
>>>>>>>> treated when I was first out of school and looking for a job. When
>>>>>>>> you work for yourself other attorneys see you as someone they can
>>>>>>>> potentially work with and it is easier to make connections.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discrimination in the hiring process is more intense than I
>>>>>>>> thought it would be before entering the profession.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meredith Ballard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James, your candor is both refreshing and stimulus for heart
>>>>>>>>> break.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882 <tel:716-563-9882>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:37 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%0b>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I recently heard from a friend of mine--also blind, also an
>>>>>>>>>> attorney, practicing for quite some time now--that many
>>>>>>>>>> employers pretty much look at a blind person's success in law
>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>> as a "parlor trick"
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> not an indication of your ability to thrive in practice. I think
>>>>>>>>>> he's right, and it makes a great deal of sense in light of my
>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>> Too many employers do not equate doing well in law school, which
>>>>>>>>>> is still extremely important by the way, with all the things
>>>>>>>>>> that law school doesn't prepare you for: taking depositions,
>>>>>>>>>> handling contentious meetings with opposing counsel, reviewing
>>>>>>>>>> documents, and, of course, handling evidence with any kind of
>>>>>>>>>> visual
>>>>>>>>>> aspect to it.
>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> almost have to prove that you can do all of these things before
>>>>>>>>>> being?? seen as potentially able to do them in practice. I
>>>>>>>>>> understand that things are somewhat less grim for people who
>>>>>>>>>> have clerkships. I will soon find out if this is true in my own
>>>>>>>>>> case. I also don't know if the same fears cloud employers'
>>>>>>>>>> judgments in a transactional or compliance?? setting, given the
>>>>>>>>>> nature of the work. So, be prepared for a lot of rejection, but
>>>>>>>>>> still be the best possible candidate, so that you can be
>>>>>>>>>> competitive for opportunities that can act as a bridge to a
>>>>>>>>>> long-term, full-time position.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2019 11:42 AM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Remarkably discriminatory. Far more so than my naive self
>>>>>>>>>>> thought when I was first licensed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning. How discriminatory have you found hiring
>>>>>>>>>>>> practices so far? Messages are welcome on or off-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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