[blindLaw] Discrimination

Farber, Randy rfarber at jw.com
Wed Sep 25 15:42:13 UTC 2019 

Hello All - I'm a little late to this conversation.  I have made it a habit to always use smart quotes.  This makes it easier to make sure that I always have it correct in Word documents.  There is a setting in Word to always use smart quotes.  I have turned on this option.  Now whenever I think there could be a problem with quotes (usually from receiving a document prepared by someone else or from copying text from outside Word) all I have to do is a search and replace.  I search for a quote and replace it with a quote.  Because of the smart quote option all of my quotes are now smart quotes and I don't have to check them.  This will also work with apostrophes.

Randy


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They aren't.  It's just a visual difference left over from typewriter days.

On 9/24/19, Shannon via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> How are they used differently?
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>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Angela Matney via BlindLaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Sanho, to access the ASCII information, press numpad 5 three times in 
>> rapid succession when the cursor is on the quote.
>>
>> As for how we are expected to learn these things … I think the 
>> problem is this is one of those things that is so obvious to sighted 
>> people that it might never get discussed verbally.
>>
>> I think maybe we all, especially those of us without visual memories, 
>> have a number of these little “holes” in how we perceive the world. 
>> Many of them get corrected while we are pretty young.
>>
>> I remember once when I was pretty little, and my younger brother and 
>> sister told me I had watermelon juice on my hands and face. I asked 
>> them how they knew, and they told me they could see it. “How can you 
>> see watermelon juice?” I asked. They didn’t understand why I would 
>> ask this question. Eventually, it came out that I thought watermelon 
>> juice was clear, like water, because of its name. (Hint: It’s really, 
>> really not!)
>>
>> That is an example of a visual thing that no one ever thought to 
>> explain to me before that time. I was a little kid when this 
>> particular misapprehension on my part was corrected; but the one 
>> about quotes didn’t get fixed until I was much older. I told a friend 
>> earlier that I thought it might have been while I was in law school, 
>> but I actually think I knew there were different quotes before that—I 
>> just didn’t realize that sometimes, Word was inserting one, and sometimes the other.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Angie
>>
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>>
>> Fascinating. JAWS doesn't tell me there's any difference whatsoever.
>> How do you access the ASCII information? Similarly, how in the world 
>> do we learn these things while we're still in school?
>>
>> Sanho
>>
>>> On 9/24/19, Angela Matney via BlindLaw 
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>> I will do my best to describe them. I will only talk about double quotes.
>>>
>>> Straight quotes are tapered, with the narrow end at the bottom. The 
>>> widest point is at the top. There is only one symbol that represents 
>>> the quotation mark, whether it is an opening quote or a closing 
>>> quote.
>>>
>>> Curly quotes are also tapered, with the narrow point at the bottom, 
>>> but they are curved. The opening quote is shaped similar to a print 
>>> letter “C,”
>>> with
>>> its curve facing to the right. The closing quote, on the right of 
>>> the enclosed material, is shaped like a backwards “C,” so its curve 
>>> faces to the left. It is almost like they are enclosing the 
>>> material.
>>>
>>> I guess literary braille technically uses smart quotes, since the 
>>> opening and closing quotes are different. I guess you could use two 
>>> apostrophes to represent both opening and closing quotes in braille, 
>>> but I really don’t see that very often. I don’t think braille has an 
>>> equivalent for the straight quote, but someone please jump in and 
>>> correct me it I’m wrong.
>>>
>>> “Here is a sentence enclosed in smart quotes.”
>>>
>>> "Here is a sentence enclosed in straight quotes."
>>>
>>> I created the second sentence by typing in Notepad and pasting it 
>>> into this email.
>>>
>>> Can you tell the difference?
>>>
>>>
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>>> I was wondering that also. Is there a Braille symbol for a smart quote?
>>> Ray Wayne, New York City
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>>> Sorry Laura,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I was trying to do too many things at once. My question was 
>>> regarding knowing the difference between a straight and smart 
>>> quote/apostrophe?
>>> I am not sure I know what a smart quote is. Can you explain.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
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>>>
>>> Shannon, would you mind repeating your question? I don't quite 
>>> understand what you are trying to ask.
>>>
>>> As to the broader conversation, I think what I'm trying to get at is 
>>> that we have to face the sad but true reality that there are, in 
>>> fact, blind attorneys out there who produce work of lesser visual 
>>> quality, whose firms or legal assistants or whatever come along 
>>> behind and clean up the work.
>>> It
>>> happens. And no one ever tells the person, so, as Angie said, the 
>>> person continues to remain unaware of the errors they make over and 
>>> over again, and the people continue to believe that the blind person 
>>> is not as capable as the rest of their peers. This has happened to 
>>> me also. I have even had conversations where I initially pressed the 
>>> superior to give me blind specific feedback, they said nothing was 
>>> wrong, then I pressed and said "this is very important to me. 
>>> Whatever you tell me, I will be able to figure out a way to address 
>>> it." And then they did give me some feedback.
>>> A
>>> friend and former co-clerk works with a blind guy and noticed that 
>>> his emails were formatted whackily. The junior partner told my 
>>> friend not to say anything but, being friends with me, he knew it 
>>> was the right thing to do.
>>> Of course, the blind attorney was very grateful and a bit embarrassed.
>>> This
>>> is the stuff I'm talking about. We need to be real about the soft 
>>> skills help we need, and we need to create awareness that is indeed 
>>> OK to tell a blind person "Hey, Just an FYI, you are occasionally 
>>> doing something that makes your documents look strange."
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw 
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbn
>>> et.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Laura and all,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for such an enlightening discussion surrounding 
>>>> employment discrimination. I have planned conversations with a 
>>>> couple of attorneys responsible for hiring associates and will ask 
>>>> them for more information. Laura, I will send you an email off-list 
>>>> to learn more from your perspective.
>>>>
>>>> Warmth,
>>>> Sanho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/19, Cody Davis via BlindLaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfb
>>>> net.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I was able to secure a temporary position at my law school 
>>>>> following graduation and licensure. Now, that temporary position 
>>>>> is ending next Monday. And, despite my wholehearted efforts over 
>>>>> the last 6 months to find work, I have no employment lined up. 
>>>>> (Somewhat jokingly) I’m far too bitter at this point to sell 
>>>>> someone on a career in law. I think Meredith and James have done 
>>>>> an excellent job of giving you all you should consider in looking to go to law school.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was initially reluctant to do any disability rights related work 
>>>>> in law school because I did not want to be placed in that box either.
>>>>> But, I looked for work in that area assuming that employers in 
>>>>> that area might be a bit more understanding and educated. I was 
>>>>> wrong. Do not assume that those who practice disability rights law 
>>>>> are any less susceptible to the biases, misperceptions, or lack of 
>>>>> understanding that leads to employment discrimination.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the best thing to do, James, is to continue educating 
>>>>> folks on the reality that blind or visually impaired attorneys are 
>>>>> as capable as their sighted counterparts in all but a very few 
>>>>> ways. My local bar has created a Taskforce to address, among other 
>>>>> issues, employment discrimination against persons with 
>>>>> disabilities in the legal profession. We are trying to provide 
>>>>> education to members of the bar on the capacity of lawyers with 
>>>>> disabilities in the hopes that this will alleviate some of the 
>>>>> underlying causes of employment discrimination. This is done by 
>>>>> presenting at meetings of the local bench and bar, hosting CLE’s, 
>>>>> and publishing writings like the blog post linked below.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Comm
>>>>> itt 
>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Com
>>>>> mitt%3cBR%3e%3e%3e> 
>>>>> <https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Com
>>>>> mitt%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3chttps:/www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/7274
>>>>> 49/Professionalism-Committ%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e%3cBR%3e%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>> ee
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw 
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at n
>>>>>> fbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cody, James, Meredith, what might you all offer as good reasons 
>>>>>> for people like myself and Sanho pursuing a legal degree? I took 
>>>>>> the LSAT this past Saturday. I am proud of that for whatever it’s worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, it can be hard to persevere when such anecdotes 
>>>>>> provide a majority of what we used to fill our sales.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I have often been paranoid about the existence of a 
>>>>>> phenomenon such as the one you indicate Cody. I have worried that 
>>>>>> someone will see my GPA and somehow assume that all of my 
>>>>>> professors have independently decided to be generous and grant 
>>>>>> grades which I do not deserve. This is of course irrational but 
>>>>>> still what I’m hearing supports that fear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested in a few different areas of the law. I am not 
>>>>>> particularly drawn to disability rights. One of the reasons why 
>>>>>> is that I don’t want to be silo into a field which others expect 
>>>>>> me to enter. I don’t want to be limited to practice law in an 
>>>>>> area related to one of my most visible and perceptibly limiting characteristics.
>>>>>> All of that said, I can see how that may be the most excepting 
>>>>>> field of practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn darn heck! Anyway, please forgive some of the dictation errors.
>>>>>> I am following my one year-old around as I compose. I don’t have 
>>>>>> time to perfect this dispatch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so much everyone for your insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw 
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw@
>>>>>>> nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James’ point is spot on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I find even more disturbing than James’ observation is that 
>>>>>>> the experience a blind candidate may possess by way of 
>>>>>>> externships and internships does not seem to assuage employers’ 
>>>>>>> concerns about the candidates’ ability to practice. Despite my 
>>>>>>> four externships during law school in which I was able to 
>>>>>>> perform the work assigned to the satisfaction of my supervisors, 
>>>>>>> I think employers still doubt my abilities to deliver the work 
>>>>>>> they expect. Shouldn’t my history of success in the workplace 
>>>>>>> evidence my ability to thrive in practice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also found that fellow attorneys and people in general 
>>>>>>> have no issue trusting that I am capable to do something, so 
>>>>>>> long as I am not being paid to do it. I have absolutely no 
>>>>>>> problem securing volunteer or community involvement opportunities. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Meredith Ballard via BlindLaw 
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw
>>>>>>>> @nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you summed it up perfectly with performance in law 
>>>>>>>> school being seen as a parlor trick. Despite the fact that I 
>>>>>>>> had a degree and a license, I was asked in a job interview how 
>>>>>>>> I got those things if I can’t read a physical book. They seemed 
>>>>>>>> to be under the impression that someone must have helped me 
>>>>>>>> with all my schooling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have noticed a big difference in how I am treated by other 
>>>>>>>> attorneys when they find out I have my own firm versus how I 
>>>>>>>> was treated when I was first out of school and looking for a 
>>>>>>>> job. When you work for yourself other attorneys see you as 
>>>>>>>> someone they can potentially work with and it is easier to make connections.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discrimination in the hiring process is more intense than I 
>>>>>>>> thought it would be before entering the profession.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meredith Ballard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw 
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindla
>>>>>>>>> w at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James, your candor is both refreshing and stimulus for heart break.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882 <tel:716-563-9882>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:37 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw 
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%0b>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I recently heard from a friend of mine--also blind, also an 
>>>>>>>>>> attorney, practicing for quite some time now--that many 
>>>>>>>>>> employers pretty much look at a blind person's success in law 
>>>>>>>>>> school as a "parlor trick"
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> not an indication of your ability to thrive in practice. I 
>>>>>>>>>> think he's right, and it makes a great deal of sense in light 
>>>>>>>>>> of my experience.
>>>>>>>>>> Too many employers do not equate doing well in law school, 
>>>>>>>>>> which is still extremely important by the way, with all the 
>>>>>>>>>> things that law school doesn't prepare you for: taking 
>>>>>>>>>> depositions, handling contentious meetings with opposing 
>>>>>>>>>> counsel, reviewing documents, and, of course, handling 
>>>>>>>>>> evidence with any kind of visual aspect to it.
>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> almost have to prove that you can do all of these things 
>>>>>>>>>> before being?? seen as potentially able to do them in 
>>>>>>>>>> practice. I understand that things are somewhat less grim for 
>>>>>>>>>> people who have clerkships. I will soon find out if this is 
>>>>>>>>>> true in my own case. I also don't know if the same fears cloud employers'
>>>>>>>>>> judgments in a transactional or compliance?? setting, given 
>>>>>>>>>> the nature of the work. So, be prepared for a lot of 
>>>>>>>>>> rejection, but still be the best possible candidate, so that 
>>>>>>>>>> you can be competitive for opportunities that can act as a 
>>>>>>>>>> bridge to a long-term, full-time position.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2019 11:42 AM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Remarkably discriminatory. Far more so than my naive self 
>>>>>>>>>>> thought when I was first licensed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via 
>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blin
>>>>>>>>>>>> dlaw at nfbnet.org%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning. How discriminatory have you found hiring 
>>>>>>>>>>>> practices so far? Messages are welcome on or off-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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