[blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to accessibility barriers

Sun Apr 12 08:09:19 UTC 2020

Sorry, Shannon, I completely understand you! Makes sense.

Kind regards

Ger

On 4/12/20, Shannon via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I agree.  When I suggested Aira, I was thinking of pleadings filed etc. that
> are part of the public record.  I use my legal assistant for these types of
> tasks.  I think either hiring a reader or having somone in the firm assist
> is the best option for anything that is confidential.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shannon Brady Geihsler
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> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
> via BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:40 PM
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> Cc: Tai Tomasi
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to
> accessibility barriers
>
> Rahul:
>
> After you have done your best to read and identify the areas of the document
> in which you are less confident, could you hire a reader to assist in
> reviewing the relevant passages? This is what I have done.
>
> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:01 AM
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> Cc: Gerard Sadlier <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to
> accessibility barriers
>
> Hi all
>
> I firmly agree with James that it is not appropriate to ask anyone outside
> of the firm to read a document to you.
>
> If in doubt Rahul, you need to ask for assistance. I would always check that
> a document that should have been signed (like a contract) has been for
> example. Personally, I find converting documents to text generally gives the
> safest results. Ideally, I would copy out of a pdf but if necessary I would
> convert using Omnipage.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be more help and for the belated reply.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Ger
>
> On 4/1/20, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Thank you. This is helpful.
>>
>> James, while using single-page view, how do you use the find command
>> effectively in PDFs? For that requires access to the whole document to
>> isolate what is important. Do you run the find command on the whole
>> document and then switch to single-page navigation on having located
>> the relevant pages?
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:59 PM, James Fetter via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not comfortable using either a family member or Aira agent for
>>> anything involving privileged or confidential information. I
>>> frequently convert PDFs to Word and have my reading preferences in
>>> Adobe set such that only one page is displayed at a time. This seems
>>> to solve the jumping around issue. I have also found that reading
>>> PDFs on my (technically my
>>> firm's) iPhone is a workable solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2020 2:18 PM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>> Also Facetime a family member you trust if it is sensitive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Associate Professor Paul Harpur
>>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of
>>>> Australia
>>>> (non-practicing)
>>>> Academic Fellow, Harvard Law School Project on Disability
>>>> International Distinguished Fellow, Burton Blatt Institute, SU, New
>>>> York Fulbright Future Scholar Associate Professor, The University of
>>>> Queensland Law School
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Shannon via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2020 3:59 AM
>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to
>>>> accessibility barriers
>>>>
>>>> I struggle with them.  The only solution I have found is when the
>>>> document is unclear after ocr, having sighted assistance to look at
>>>> the part that is unclear.  An AIRA agent is helpful if you do not
>>>> want to ask a colleague or legal assistant.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>>>>
>>>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
>>>> 1212 Texas Avenue
>>>> Lubbock, Texas 79401
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>>>> Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:53 PM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to
>>>> accessibility barriers
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> This may be a strange question. However, I findmyself worrying
>>>> incessantly about having misread or skipped something in legal
>>>> documents because of an accessibility barrier. Specifically, these
>>>> feelings become particularly pronounced for me, and my confidence in
>>>> what I read is not up to the mark,given that:
>>>> A. One has to often convert documents into an accessible format
>>>> using an OCR solution. And the accuracy level of the output
>>>> sometimes leaves much to be desired; and B. JAWS often jumps around
>>>> in PDF documents between paras of its own accord, so I end up not
>>>> being fully confident about what I have read in such documents.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else struggle with these thoughts? Do you have in mind
>>>> any solutions?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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